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Straight Shooters and Great Americans: Hugh Hefner Informed The FBI That a Playboy Playmate Had Been Sex-Trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein But They "Back-Burnered" The Tip and Did Nothing for 15 Years
What exactly would you say you do here?
Playboy founder and publisher Hugh Hefner reportedly informed the FBI several times in 2005 that a Playboy Playmate had been sexually trafficked and abused by the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and others, but the FBI didn't investigate the claim for 15 years, according to court documents. The Playboy Playmate was Audra Christiansen, who says that Hefner made multiple reports to the FBI, but that the agency didn't follow up at the time, according to former FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer. "To wait 15 years to conduct this interview and to actually get down to the nitty gritty ... that is just too long to wait," Coffindaffer told "NewsNation Prime" on Saturday. "Somehow, this got back-burnered, and it should have never happened that it would take so long for this investigation to follow through." ... Christiansen's story suggests that if the FBI had acted on Hefner's calls, Epstein could have been held to account for his actions long before he was arrested and held awaiting trial. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to solicitation in Florida for which he received a very lenient and highly criticized work-release jail sentence.The FBI agent says the cover-up and political weaponization agency might have been "swamped" at the time, doing 9/11 investigations. Still swamped in 2005?
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HH was a slob.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2026 01:27 PM (NnhvP)
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oh yeah, 1st
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2026 01:28 PM (NnhvP)
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Man, our investgative services are so easily corrupted.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 17, 2026 01:28 PM (sl73Y)
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2nd or 3rd?
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click) at August 17, 2026 01:28 PM (aJQbY)
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> HH was a slob.
He was, but all the women involved appear to have been of age and consented, which somehow puts him above most senators.
He was, but all the women involved appear to have been of age and consented, which somehow puts him above most senators.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at August 17, 2026 01:28 PM (fgmuN)
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"Somehow, this got back-burnered, and it should have never happened that it would take so long for this investigation to follow through."
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Something suddenly came up.
-Marcia Brady
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Something suddenly came up.
-Marcia Brady
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (JvZF+)
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Their political masters did not want them going down that rabbit hole.
Posted by: steevy at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (YwEeS)
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Remember Trump is the Epstein client even though the only time Epstein and Maxwell faced any federal consequences is 2016-20 and 24-now...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Sco7b)
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click) at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (aJQbY)
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He was, but all the women involved appear to have been of age and consented, which somehow puts him above most senators.
Money can't buy everyone but it can buy a lot of people
He was, but all the women involved appear to have been of age and consented, which somehow puts him above most senators.
Money can't buy everyone but it can buy a lot of people
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:30 PM (sKqQm)
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Something suddenly came up.
-Marcia Brady
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM
Which is more than could be said for HH.
-Marcia Brady
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM
Which is more than could be said for HH.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2026 01:30 PM (bFu5X)
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They'll claim it's caus they're understaffed.
Meanwhile they had enough people to plan Whitmer's fake kidnapping and wind up every tranny school shooter in America...
Meanwhile they had enough people to plan Whitmer's fake kidnapping and wind up every tranny school shooter in America...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (sKqQm)
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HH was a slob.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2026 01:27 PM (NnhvP)
But not a predator. Just a smarmy old man with a bazillion dollars.
Turns out, Trump was right.
When you have a ton of money, they DO let you grab 'em by the p-word.
"They let you" is the important part.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2026 01:27 PM (NnhvP)
But not a predator. Just a smarmy old man with a bazillion dollars.
Turns out, Trump was right.
When you have a ton of money, they DO let you grab 'em by the p-word.
"They let you" is the important part.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (PGK1w)
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All investigations by the feds take forever, and ultimately run out the clock.
Unless it's an investigation into Republicans or conservative Americans. Then it's turbo time. And a guaranteed guilty conviction.
Unless it's an investigation into Republicans or conservative Americans. Then it's turbo time. And a guaranteed guilty conviction.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (2Cry5)
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How many Morons are searching for photos ofAudra Christiansen right now?
Posted by: Beartooth at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (NVp2u)
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More mistakes were made.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (hU2E2)
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"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
Always lead off with a joke....
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Sco7b)
The password is Fidelio.
Always lead off with a joke....
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Sco7b)
The password is Fidelio.
Posted by: guy in a cloak and carnival mask at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (fmbc9)
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Wait, what ?? Isn't sexual exploitation is what she did for a living ?
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (g47mK)
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informed the FBI several times in 2005
The investigation would have interfered with BHO's agenda.
The investigation would have interfered with BHO's agenda.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (NnhvP)
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Like, what is her story ??
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (g47mK)
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Christiansen's story suggests that if the FBI had acted on Hefner's calls, Epstein could have been held to account for his actions long before he was arrested and held awaiting trial. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to solicitation in Florida for which he received a very lenient and highly criticized work-release jail sentence.
One thing to keep in mind, Epstein had a waiting list of lefty pols, celebs and academics trying to get time alone with him after 2008.
My favorite was some academic who wanted Epstein to come to his conference and offered up he had good looking graduate students who would take good care of Jeffrey if he came...
One thing to keep in mind, Epstein had a waiting list of lefty pols, celebs and academics trying to get time alone with him after 2008.
My favorite was some academic who wanted Epstein to come to his conference and offered up he had good looking graduate students who would take good care of Jeffrey if he came...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (sKqQm)
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When you have HH turning your ass in...
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (AzRNx)
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19 Wait, what ?? Isn't sexual exploitation is what she did for a living ?
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (g47mK)
If I go sign up to work in a coal mine, I'm participating in exploiting a resource.
If I get shanghaied and blackmailed into working in a coal mine, I'm the resource being exploited.
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:31 PM (g47mK)
If I go sign up to work in a coal mine, I'm participating in exploiting a resource.
If I get shanghaied and blackmailed into working in a coal mine, I'm the resource being exploited.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (Ot/FD)
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The FBI agent says the cover-up and political weaponization agency might have been "swamped" at the time, doing 9/11 investigations.
Still swamped in 2005?
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:27 PM
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Not "swamped," "Swamp." The FBI is part of the Swamp.
The FBI agent says the cover-up and political weaponization agency might have been "swamped" at the time, doing 9/11 investigations.
Still swamped in 2005?
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:27 PM
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Not "swamped," "Swamp." The FBI is part of the Swamp.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (iTNuP)
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When you have a ton of money, they DO let you grab 'em by the p-word.
"They let you" is the important part.
The Althouse set alternately swoons over rich/powerful men and then argues there is no such thing as a gold digger...
"They let you" is the important part.
The Althouse set alternately swoons over rich/powerful men and then argues there is no such thing as a gold digger...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (sKqQm)
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You have to truly appreciate that Hefner is considered sleazy by the chattering class for the business he’s in, yet he not only takes the moral high road but aptly shows how our allegedly premier law enforcement agency is the bigger scumbags.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (f4tQo)
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How low do you have to be for Hefner to turn you in for your sexual perversions?
Posted by: huerfano at August 17, 2026 01:34 PM (2Xqig)
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We're gonna need more ham&eggers.
Posted by: sifty boones at August 17, 2026 01:34 PM (pCgEo)
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Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at August 17, 2026 01:34 PM (2Ez/1)
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Fucking snitch.
Posted by: Larry Flynt, peddling smut in hell at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (hU2E2)
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You have to truly appreciate that Hefner is considered sleazy by the chattering class for the business he’s in, yet he not only takes the moral high road but aptly shows how our allegedly premier law enforcement agency is the bigger scumbags.
Hefner did what pretty much all of Hollywood does, but he was a bit more honest about it and who he was...oh and no kids unlike Hollywood (as far as we know)
Hefner did what pretty much all of Hollywood does, but he was a bit more honest about it and who he was...oh and no kids unlike Hollywood (as far as we know)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
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Obviously Trump exerting his influence to protect Epstein back in 2005, just like now in 2026.
/sh*t Massie says
/sh*t Massie says
Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (Iwv3U)
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How low do you have to be for Hefner to turn you in for your sexual perversions?
Posted by: huerfano at August 17, 2026 01:34 PM (2Xqig)
Low enough to force.
Hefner - as best we know - never forced anybody.
Posted by: huerfano at August 17, 2026 01:34 PM (2Xqig)
Low enough to force.
Hefner - as best we know - never forced anybody.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (PGK1w)
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Didn't Hefner's daughter take over his business then try to pitch trannies to straight men and watch the business collapse?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
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Hefner ratting out Epstein is the pot calling the kettle black
Hefner was a freak himself and took advantage of hundreds of women
Hefner was a freak himself and took advantage of hundreds of women
Posted by: Don Black at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (ZxPkt)
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9 Again...
"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
Always lead off with a joke....
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Sco7b)
“To Serve And Protect”
Serve themselves. Protect? I’m going to take up for the cops here. This is unfair. The cops protect nobody because they can’t protect anybody. Maybe themselves. They investigate crime. But trust me, there isn’t a DPS trooper or a deputy from the local SO on my front porch at all times.
"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
Always lead off with a joke....
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at August 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Sco7b)
“To Serve And Protect”
Serve themselves. Protect? I’m going to take up for the cops here. This is unfair. The cops protect nobody because they can’t protect anybody. Maybe themselves. They investigate crime. But trust me, there isn’t a DPS trooper or a deputy from the local SO on my front porch at all times.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (jPziU)
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When you have a ton of money, they DO let you grab 'em by the p-word.
"They let you" is the important part.
The Althouse set alternately swoons over rich/powerful men and then argues there is no such thing as a gold digger...
Posted by: 18-1
I read that as gold finger.
"They let you" is the important part.
The Althouse set alternately swoons over rich/powerful men and then argues there is no such thing as a gold digger...
Posted by: 18-1
I read that as gold finger.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (AzRNx)
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If I go sign up to work in a coal mine, I'm participating in exploiting a resource.
If I get shanghaied and blackmailed into working in a coal mine, I'm the resource being exploited.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (Ot/FD)
I do not take whores complaining about sexual exploitation seriously.
If I get shanghaied and blackmailed into working in a coal mine, I'm the resource being exploited.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 17, 2026 01:33 PM (Ot/FD)
I do not take whores complaining about sexual exploitation seriously.
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:36 PM (g47mK)
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2006 . . . Still swamped.
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2007 . . . Still swamped.
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2016 . . . Still swamped.
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2017 . . . Still swamped.
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2018 . . . Still swamped.
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2019 . . . Still swamped / Epstein dead.
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2020 . . . Finally some time to check on whether Epstein had dirt on tRump.
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2006 . . . Still swamped.
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2007 . . . Still swamped.
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2016 . . . Still swamped.
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2017 . . . Still swamped.
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2018 . . . Still swamped.
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2019 . . . Still swamped / Epstein dead.
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2020 . . . Finally some time to check on whether Epstein had dirt on tRump.
Posted by: Marooned at August 17, 2026 01:36 PM (kt8QE)
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I did a job walk at the PB Mansion.
Whole place smelled like mildew and chlorine. Reminded me of an indoor pool at a Holiday Inn. Nasty.
It was daytime, so only the brave people who clean everything were seen.
Good on Hugh for trying, the old libertine bastid. More than most did.
Whole place smelled like mildew and chlorine. Reminded me of an indoor pool at a Holiday Inn. Nasty.
It was daytime, so only the brave people who clean everything were seen.
Good on Hugh for trying, the old libertine bastid. More than most did.
Posted by: sifty boones at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (pCgEo)
Posted by: RI Red - at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (30Gj0)
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So, no one knows what her "story" is? Was she not paid enough or something ?
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (g47mK)
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Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey Epstein... blah blah blah.
She had, apparently, already posed nude for Playboy when she was 'trafficked'. So, unless she was kidnapped and raped, she agree to what happened.
#metoo
She had, apparently, already posed nude for Playboy when she was 'trafficked'. So, unless she was kidnapped and raped, she agree to what happened.
#metoo
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (ExV1e)
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/sh*t Massie says
Massie got into it with Nick Shirley.
Massie was blathering on about corruption and Shirley reminded him Massie had been a long time congressman and succeeded in doing nothing to stop the fraud he'd found...
Massie got into it with Nick Shirley.
Massie was blathering on about corruption and Shirley reminded him Massie had been a long time congressman and succeeded in doing nothing to stop the fraud he'd found...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (sKqQm)
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"The FBI agent says the cover-up and political weaponization agency might have been "swamped" at the time, doing 9/11 investigations.
Still swamped in 2005?"
They were not "swamped", they were The Swamp ... in 2001 and 2005, and still Swampy today.
Still swamped in 2005?"
They were not "swamped", they were The Swamp ... in 2001 and 2005, and still Swampy today.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (vbXSk)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 01:37 PM (2YhKe)
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Common sense FBI regulation NOW!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (2YhKe)
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When a skeezy fuck like Hugh is calling you out, there is some terrible shit going down.
I look at the news and see how many social media influencers are dying at an early age and I wonder where this world is going.
I look at the news and see how many social media influencers are dying at an early age and I wonder where this world is going.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (tvdD1)
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My take on this is that they will do anything -- ANYTHING -- to keep the long-dead Jeff Epstein story alive.
I rate this newest revelation as having the same probability of truth as every other one of these dubious "I was sexually abused 20 years ago, but didn't say a word about it until now" stories. That is: very low.
Even if the story is true, it's a big "so what" to me. So an adult semi-porn star living as a semi-whore at the Playboy Mansion was getting fucked by a lot of rich powerful guys. Gee, I'm very shocked at that.
There's real sex trafficking going on, and it ain't at Playboy Mansions with girls voluntarily there for the sole purpose of being sexual playthings.
The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
I rate this newest revelation as having the same probability of truth as every other one of these dubious "I was sexually abused 20 years ago, but didn't say a word about it until now" stories. That is: very low.
Even if the story is true, it's a big "so what" to me. So an adult semi-porn star living as a semi-whore at the Playboy Mansion was getting fucked by a lot of rich powerful guys. Gee, I'm very shocked at that.
There's real sex trafficking going on, and it ain't at Playboy Mansions with girls voluntarily there for the sole purpose of being sexual playthings.
The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
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>>Still swamped in 2005?
FBI uses a system of scientific management -- they "incentivize" certain types of investigations. So management sets priorities, and the agents are rewarded only for investigating that type of crime. After 9/11, even if you were in a unit dedicated to investigating counterfeit CD imported from China, you made it all about "terrorism."
This is important to understand because Obama came in and used this mechanism to turn the entire agency against "white nationalism" and later, Trump.
Biden did the same, but more woke.
Crime which fits the proper category is often scarce, so agents dutifully create it as needed so they can investigate.
The only other real incentives they have is anything that justifies spending large on the expense account, or even better, getting to set up and oversee a field office. Both are very lucrative.
FBI uses a system of scientific management -- they "incentivize" certain types of investigations. So management sets priorities, and the agents are rewarded only for investigating that type of crime. After 9/11, even if you were in a unit dedicated to investigating counterfeit CD imported from China, you made it all about "terrorism."
This is important to understand because Obama came in and used this mechanism to turn the entire agency against "white nationalism" and later, Trump.
Biden did the same, but more woke.
Crime which fits the proper category is often scarce, so agents dutifully create it as needed so they can investigate.
The only other real incentives they have is anything that justifies spending large on the expense account, or even better, getting to set up and oversee a field office. Both are very lucrative.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (yljFf)
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FBI short staffed? But they had enough to send half a dozen to investigate a racist garage door pull loop at Talladega
Posted by: DitkaCA at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (utChY)
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My pet hypothais is that Jeff Epstein was on the Deep State payroll and his island was a honeypot to gain leverage over politicians and wealthy oligarchs.
This story and the persistent lack of prosecutions supports my hypothesis.
This story and the persistent lack of prosecutions supports my hypothesis.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 01:39 PM (E/O6y)
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Without the FBI, who will shoot the families and make sure the Whitey Bulgers of the world are safe?
I'd rather have the FBI SAIC in each city elected like a County Sheriff.
I'd rather have the FBI SAIC in each city elected like a County Sheriff.
Posted by: sifty boones at August 17, 2026 01:40 PM (pCgEo)
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Oh on a semi-related note, I was watching a video by a "retired sex worker" and her claim was she didn't understand how so many men would pay to have sex with someone that didn't want them and how it was all misogyny.
I thought the more you paid the more they pretended to want it?
Anyway, I'm not endorsing it at all but *you* were doing the job. If you don't want men going to hookers, maybe, as a start, don't be a hooker?
I thought the more you paid the more they pretended to want it?
Anyway, I'm not endorsing it at all but *you* were doing the job. If you don't want men going to hookers, maybe, as a start, don't be a hooker?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:40 PM (sKqQm)
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FBI short staffed? But they had enough to send half a dozen to investigate a racist garage door pull loop at Talladega
Posted by: DitkaCA at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (utChY)
Seems there was a surfeit of agents to go through Melania's unmentionables as well.
PRIORITIES, PEOPLE!!
Posted by: DitkaCA at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (utChY)
Seems there was a surfeit of agents to go through Melania's unmentionables as well.
PRIORITIES, PEOPLE!!
Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at August 17, 2026 01:40 PM (Iwv3U)
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The only other real incentives they have is anything that justifies spending large on the expense account, or even better, getting to set up and oversee a field office. Both are very lucrative.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (yljFf)
White Christian Nationalism caused by Climate Change and BadOrangeMan!
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (yljFf)
White Christian Nationalism caused by Climate Change and BadOrangeMan!
Posted by: I'm gonna investigate me a Promotion! at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (Ucgf4)
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The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Ham n eggers. All of them.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 17, 2026 01:42 PM (N1DT3)
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Even if the story is true, it's a big "so what" to me. So an adult semi-porn star living as a semi-whore at the Playboy Mansion was getting fucked by a lot of rich powerful guys. Gee, I'm very shocked at that.
There was an episode of the Whatever podcast I saw where he had yacht girls on. They mentioned that no one forced them to have sex but if you said no you weren't invited back. The girls agreed that wasn't fair and there shouldn't be a requirement to have sex with the yacht owner.
The host asked the girls what they thought the yacht owner would get out of the experience of taking them on an expensive vacation if not sex and the amusing part is the girls were all surprised by this question as if they'd never thought of it before.
There was an episode of the Whatever podcast I saw where he had yacht girls on. They mentioned that no one forced them to have sex but if you said no you weren't invited back. The girls agreed that wasn't fair and there shouldn't be a requirement to have sex with the yacht owner.
The host asked the girls what they thought the yacht owner would get out of the experience of taking them on an expensive vacation if not sex and the amusing part is the girls were all surprised by this question as if they'd never thought of it before.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:42 PM (sKqQm)
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Oh on a semi-related note, I was watching a video by a "retired sex worker" and her claim was she didn't understand how so many men would pay to have sex with someone that didn't want them and how it was all misogyny.
Just like the retired porn stars who go on a crusade to tell the world that porn is bad. They're not wrong but the lesson falls a bit flat from people who quit after they've wrung all they can out of the business.
Just like the retired porn stars who go on a crusade to tell the world that porn is bad. They're not wrong but the lesson falls a bit flat from people who quit after they've wrung all they can out of the business.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (ExV1e)
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This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Now, now Piper. You also need to double-tap center-mass.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Now, now Piper. You also need to double-tap center-mass.
Posted by: And it's a gub thread at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Ucgf4)
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The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels.
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And the politician who wrote the legislation that prevents cops from rescuing underaged girls from sex traffickers will be taking over Nancy Pelosis house seat come January.
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And the politician who wrote the legislation that prevents cops from rescuing underaged girls from sex traffickers will be taking over Nancy Pelosis house seat come January.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (E/O6y)
Posted by: Marooned at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (kt8QE)
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Oh on a semi-related note, I was watching a video by a "retired sex worker" and her claim was she didn't understand how so many men would pay to have sex with someone that didn't want them and how it was all misogyny.
I thought the more you paid the more they pretended to want it?
Anyway, I'm not endorsing it at all but *you* were doing the job. If you don't want men going to hookers, maybe, as a start, don't be a hooker?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:40 PM (sKqQm)
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My best guess is her story is mostly made up. Because if she was a real prostitute, she would surely understand that the whole point of the transaction is that it's purely a sex act with no emotional attachment.
"I don't pay hookers for sex. I pay them to leave."
I thought the more you paid the more they pretended to want it?
Anyway, I'm not endorsing it at all but *you* were doing the job. If you don't want men going to hookers, maybe, as a start, don't be a hooker?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:40 PM (sKqQm)
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My best guess is her story is mostly made up. Because if she was a real prostitute, she would surely understand that the whole point of the transaction is that it's purely a sex act with no emotional attachment.
"I don't pay hookers for sex. I pay them to leave."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (iFTx/)
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The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
250K girls in Britain in recent years, mostly by immigrants.
I saw one exchange where someone pointed out this is data and so it isn't racist...the feminist response? If it advances hate against a minority group it is racist whether it is an accurate data point or not
250K girls in Britain in recent years, mostly by immigrants.
I saw one exchange where someone pointed out this is data and so it isn't racist...the feminist response? If it advances hate against a minority group it is racist whether it is an accurate data point or not
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (sKqQm)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (ExV1e)
68
It's a fact that Playmates of the Month favorite turn-on was cuddly old Hef and how proud their mom and dad were of them.
It was printed right there on the backside of the foldout, along with the dirty jokes.
It's a fact that Playmates of the Month favorite turn-on was cuddly old Hef and how proud their mom and dad were of them.
It was printed right there on the backside of the foldout, along with the dirty jokes.
Posted by: Auspex at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (Y8DZL)
69
I think Elric sums it up pretty well @ 50.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (VyBeY)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 17, 2026 01:44 PM (qx7Zg)
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This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
May I gently suggest the x-ring...
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
May I gently suggest the x-ring...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 01:45 PM (PGK1w)
72
9 Again...
"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
Always lead off with a joke....
dad, who was army cid, called them "fumble bums incorporated"
"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
Always lead off with a joke....
dad, who was army cid, called them "fumble bums incorporated"
Posted by: anachronda at August 17, 2026 01:45 PM (v3pYe)
73
"Playboy founder and publisher Hugh Hefner reportedly informed the FBI several times in 2005..."
Parents of a local teenager filed a report with Palm Beach Police regarding inappropriate sexual contact by Epstein.
Detectives discovered a network where multiple underage girls were recruited and paid cash for sexual encounters.
The 2005 police work stayed local at first, preceding the broader federal involvement and subsequent 2007 non-prosecution agreement led by federal prosecutors in Florida. It was a highly controversial deal orchestrated by then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta.
Epstein served 13 months in a Palm Beach County jail & was then granted liberal "work release."
Parents of a local teenager filed a report with Palm Beach Police regarding inappropriate sexual contact by Epstein.
Detectives discovered a network where multiple underage girls were recruited and paid cash for sexual encounters.
The 2005 police work stayed local at first, preceding the broader federal involvement and subsequent 2007 non-prosecution agreement led by federal prosecutors in Florida. It was a highly controversial deal orchestrated by then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta.
Epstein served 13 months in a Palm Beach County jail & was then granted liberal "work release."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:45 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: red five, standing bye at August 17, 2026 01:46 PM (v3pYe)
75
My comment #51 is worth considering.
The FBI has this giant lever of "incentives" that tells every agent what to investigate. This is completely out of control, and a big part of the problem
I do not hear anything about Kash Patel fixing this, or even any discussion of how to fix it. I think it has to go to congress and how funds are allocated. Leaving it in the hands of the executive is nice, until a muslim commie like Obama is elected, or a retard puppet like Biden. 4 years of either and they put their people in place and then it is hard to correct.
The FBI has this giant lever of "incentives" that tells every agent what to investigate. This is completely out of control, and a big part of the problem
I do not hear anything about Kash Patel fixing this, or even any discussion of how to fix it. I think it has to go to congress and how funds are allocated. Leaving it in the hands of the executive is nice, until a muslim commie like Obama is elected, or a retard puppet like Biden. 4 years of either and they put their people in place and then it is hard to correct.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 01:46 PM (yljFf)
76
60, lol!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (VyBeY)
77
I'm just going to say this:
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
It wouldn't be out of her wheelhouse to claim the FBI sat on the reports from Hef when they were literally on *her* desk to investigate as a way to cover up her own culpability.
Tread lightly when using her as sourcing.
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
It wouldn't be out of her wheelhouse to claim the FBI sat on the reports from Hef when they were literally on *her* desk to investigate as a way to cover up her own culpability.
Tread lightly when using her as sourcing.
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (0umlT)
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> The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
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I imagine a fair amount of this is facilitated by the US Government.
Many trafficked children that were brought to the southern border by "agents" their parents either paid, or owed money to, were then passed off to federal agencies like HHS.
ICE (along with other Feds) are slowly tracking them down. There's estimated to be a quarter million children who were originally trafficked under *biden's watch.
I think the story's less about the Playmate and more about the useless FBI.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
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I imagine a fair amount of this is facilitated by the US Government.
Many trafficked children that were brought to the southern border by "agents" their parents either paid, or owed money to, were then passed off to federal agencies like HHS.
ICE (along with other Feds) are slowly tracking them down. There's estimated to be a quarter million children who were originally trafficked under *biden's watch.
I think the story's less about the Playmate and more about the useless FBI.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (2Cry5)
79
But we passed the Patriot Act. The fibbies had "new tools" and shit.
Posted by: Reforger at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (7ADiS)
80
spot on, bob!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 17, 2026 01:48 PM (VyBeY)
81
The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
I hadn't thought of it this way but I think you're 100 percent right.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
I hadn't thought of it this way but I think you're 100 percent right.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2026 01:49 PM (vOtG+)
82
42 gets it!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 17, 2026 01:49 PM (VyBeY)
83
I saw one exchange where someone pointed out this is data and so it isn't racist...the feminist response? If it advances hate against a minority group it is racist whether it is an accurate data point or not
Posted by: 18-1
So if reality is racist, what does that make the anti-racists?
Posted by: 18-1
So if reality is racist, what does that make the anti-racists?
Posted by: mikeski at August 17, 2026 01:49 PM (VHUov)
84
One of the more comical things I've noticed in leftwing forums is they'll post pictures of Trump and Epstein at the same NYC parties in the 90s and argue see Trump was an Epstein client.
Then someone will post a picture of Maxwell at the Chelsea Clinton wedding as an invited guest and the argument becomes "of course rich powerful people associate with rich powerful people"
Note Chelsea got married in 2010, so after Epstein was convicted of being a pedo, but before 2012 when Maxwell got her one personal grift...so the only reason to invite Maxwell was because you wanted to keep Epstein in your circle...
Then someone will post a picture of Maxwell at the Chelsea Clinton wedding as an invited guest and the argument becomes "of course rich powerful people associate with rich powerful people"
Note Chelsea got married in 2010, so after Epstein was convicted of being a pedo, but before 2012 when Maxwell got her one personal grift...so the only reason to invite Maxwell was because you wanted to keep Epstein in your circle...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (sKqQm)
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The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Exactly. But nobody wants to confront the real problem, because the real problem might dump your body in a river. They barely were able to show that movie about real sex trafficking.
So instead we jabber endlessly about what happened decades ago to gold-digging yacht girls and playboy playmates and half-whores.
Meanwhile, young girls are being unwillingly brutalized and abused by cartels, and nobody even wants to talk about it, let alone do anything about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Exactly. But nobody wants to confront the real problem, because the real problem might dump your body in a river. They barely were able to show that movie about real sex trafficking.
So instead we jabber endlessly about what happened decades ago to gold-digging yacht girls and playboy playmates and half-whores.
Meanwhile, young girls are being unwillingly brutalized and abused by cartels, and nobody even wants to talk about it, let alone do anything about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (iFTx/)
86
Epstein was an IC asset and a Democrat. Of course they didn't investigate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (xcxpd)
87
I'm just going to say this:
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
***
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (0umlT)
I followed that trial pretty closely but don't recall Coffindaffer.
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
***
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (0umlT)
I followed that trial pretty closely but don't recall Coffindaffer.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (vOtG+)
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Probably at that level all investigations are political. As long as Epstein "donated" enough money to the right people and kept the right company, he was untouchable. Conversely, once he became inconvenient, it was easy to destroy him.
Posted by: PG at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (qln0f)
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(Looks through old Playboys beside the shitter in the bathroom). OK, which one was she, again? Research, you know.
Posted by: The FBEye at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (QaH55)
90
Google says Audra was 23 when Jeff whored her out
Posted by: nckate at August 17, 2026 01:51 PM (enNUy)
91
IIRC, there was a plaque at the front door of the PB mansion in Chicago that said “If you don’t swing, don’t ring”.
I used to think that was semi exculpatory toward Bill Cosby. However, sister of friend of family worked in high end catering amongst celebrities, and the scuttlebutt in her circle was that Cosby would spike young lady’s drinks for the obvious reason.
I used to think that was semi exculpatory toward Bill Cosby. However, sister of friend of family worked in high end catering amongst celebrities, and the scuttlebutt in her circle was that Cosby would spike young lady’s drinks for the obvious reason.
Posted by: Fenderbender at August 17, 2026 01:51 PM (1FEc1)
92
Not just girls.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:51 PM (NFX2v)
93
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
That trial is the oddest thing.
The "defund the police" crowd are studiously ignoring it but it might be the most clear example of serious police misconduct in a generation.
Anyone who has followed the Karen Read trial knows that Jennifer Coffindaffer isn't just a trash human being and was a failure at the FBI, but that she is an incredibly self- serving piece of trash as well.
That trial is the oddest thing.
The "defund the police" crowd are studiously ignoring it but it might be the most clear example of serious police misconduct in a generation.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:51 PM (sKqQm)
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News Nation, August 14, 2026
“I called again (to the FBI) in 2020 due to threats that were happening to our family. I have never been able to speak to the FBI. I even hired an attorney to speak to them, and they would not meet with her or I. Still nothing from the DOJ or FBI.”
Christiansen hired an attorney to sit down with the FBI after she reached out in 2020, but she said the bureau refused.
“My attorney was blown away; they didn’t want to hear from me,” Christiansen said to NewsNation.
Much more followed.
“I called again (to the FBI) in 2020 due to threats that were happening to our family. I have never been able to speak to the FBI. I even hired an attorney to speak to them, and they would not meet with her or I. Still nothing from the DOJ or FBI.”
Christiansen hired an attorney to sit down with the FBI after she reached out in 2020, but she said the bureau refused.
“My attorney was blown away; they didn’t want to hear from me,” Christiansen said to NewsNation.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
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So if reality is racist, what does that make the anti-racists?
IIRC the stats say it is the Muslim invaders raping British girls in mass, not the Hindu ones.
Which then also makes this whole exchange sort of comical.
IIRC the stats say it is the Muslim invaders raping British girls in mass, not the Hindu ones.
Which then also makes this whole exchange sort of comical.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (sKqQm)
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The FBI didn't do squat about Swalwell, were apparently told to stay away from Epstein, but they could entrap a bunch of nitwits to "kidnap" governor Whitmer.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 17, 2026 01:54 PM (rp63B)
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The real sex trafficking is being done to innocent girls by brutal Latin American gangs and cartels. But going after the cartels could get your head shot off. So everyone would rather talk about a harmless dead rich guy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
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I imagine a fair amount of this is facilitated by the US Government.
Many trafficked children that were brought to the southern border by "agents" their parents either paid, or owed money to, were then passed off to federal agencies like HHS.
ICE (along with other Feds) are slowly tracking them down. There's estimated to be a quarter million children who were originally trafficked under *biden's watch.
I think the story's less about the Playmate and more about the useless FBI.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (2Cry5)
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Our own government is surely in on the trafficking, as well as countless NGOs and anyone else with their head in the trough. The traffickers pay well, in addition to chopping off your head if you fuck with them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
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I imagine a fair amount of this is facilitated by the US Government.
Many trafficked children that were brought to the southern border by "agents" their parents either paid, or owed money to, were then passed off to federal agencies like HHS.
ICE (along with other Feds) are slowly tracking them down. There's estimated to be a quarter million children who were originally trafficked under *biden's watch.
I think the story's less about the Playmate and more about the useless FBI.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 17, 2026 01:47 PM (2Cry5)
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Our own government is surely in on the trafficking, as well as countless NGOs and anyone else with their head in the trough. The traffickers pay well, in addition to chopping off your head if you fuck with them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 01:54 PM (iFTx/)
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62 This' and for all the dumb white women crying about ICE, it is exactly these illegals trafficking children. Babies. I am not a violent person, but if there was ever a situation where I would easily shoot someone between the eyes….
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Now, now Piper. You also need to double-tap center-mass.
Posted by: And it's a gub thread at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Ucgf4)
Mozambique is not just a failed African state
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Now, now Piper. You also need to double-tap center-mass.
Posted by: And it's a gub thread at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Ucgf4)
Mozambique is not just a failed African state
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 17, 2026 01:54 PM (xcxpd)
99
I'll also argue that while it doesn't have the high profile of IL or CA, MA is the most corrupt state in the union.
The Karen Read stuff is only moderately making the news there and if this was in a state not built on corruption (just look at how MA got so rich...) it would be THE news item in that state...
The Karen Read stuff is only moderately making the news there and if this was in a state not built on corruption (just look at how MA got so rich...) it would be THE news item in that state...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (sKqQm)
100
I followed that trial pretty closely but don't recall Coffindaffer.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (vOtG+)
Coffindaffer was a regular on CourtTV during the warmup, both trials, and the intermission period. She became a laughingstock for her absolute lack of knowledge on the case, its players, and her desperate attempt to make herself a factor in the reporting. She targeted Turtleboy hard, right up there with the former disgraced ADA Wendy Murphy.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2026 01:50 PM (vOtG+)
Coffindaffer was a regular on CourtTV during the warmup, both trials, and the intermission period. She became a laughingstock for her absolute lack of knowledge on the case, its players, and her desperate attempt to make herself a factor in the reporting. She targeted Turtleboy hard, right up there with the former disgraced ADA Wendy Murphy.
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (0umlT)
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One of the attorneys I worked for in my paralegal days said that he had once been offered the job of general counsel at Playboy, but decided that his wife would not approve, and so turned it down.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (77rzZ)
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99 I'll also argue that while it doesn't have the high profile of IL or CA, MA is the most corrupt state in the union.
The Karen Read stuff is only moderately making the news there and if this was in a state not built on corruption (just look at how MA got so rich...) it would be THE news item in that state...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (sKqQm)
Birchmore is where this is going to blow up if it goes to trial.
The Karen Read stuff is only moderately making the news there and if this was in a state not built on corruption (just look at how MA got so rich...) it would be THE news item in that state...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (sKqQm)
Birchmore is where this is going to blow up if it goes to trial.
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:56 PM (0umlT)
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“My attorney was blown away; they didn’t want to hear from me,” Christiansen said to NewsNation.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
104
Corgis!!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2026 01:57 PM (VMv9G)
105
Now, now Piper. You also need to double-tap center-mass.
Posted by: And it's a gub thread at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Ucgf4)
Mozambique is not just a failed African state
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August
May I go a little bit lower?
Posted by: And it's a gub thread at August 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Ucgf4)
Mozambique is not just a failed African state
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August
May I go a little bit lower?
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:58 PM (ZdaMQ)
106
I was reading a thread by Bruce Fenton where he argues people should stop blaming baby boomers collectively for the modern price of housing and instead should blame the politicians that printed so many dollars that left us with the current prices.
And...he's not wrong.
The responses? But those politicians were boomers!
This is the problem with the generational mindset. Because if you make it about "boomers" nothing will change. If you make it about pols stealing money and paying off interest groups maybe it will.
Because the Gen X Dems/GOPers are going to do the same things the Boomer ones did.
Note: I am not a boomer.
And...he's not wrong.
The responses? But those politicians were boomers!
This is the problem with the generational mindset. Because if you make it about "boomers" nothing will change. If you make it about pols stealing money and paying off interest groups maybe it will.
Because the Gen X Dems/GOPers are going to do the same things the Boomer ones did.
Note: I am not a boomer.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:58 PM (sKqQm)
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How low do you have to be for Hefner to turn you in for your sexual perversions?
Good thing we never came to his attention.
Good thing we never came to his attention.
Posted by: Penguins of the World at August 17, 2026 01:59 PM (0sNs1)
108
Mozambique is not just a failed African state
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August
Fun fact: Mozambique was the first state without a historic tie to Great Britain to join the British Commonwealth. Rwanda was the second.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August
Fun fact: Mozambique was the first state without a historic tie to Great Britain to join the British Commonwealth. Rwanda was the second.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 02:00 PM (77rzZ)
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Traitors and perverts and POS's ALL the way down.
Posted by: Pamazon at August 17, 2026 02:00 PM (b5MGU)
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I'm guessing a Coffindaffer was someone who liked having sex in coffins, and it stuck to some unfortunate -and kinky- family.
Posted by: Wally at August 17, 2026 02:01 PM (avzFa)
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See what important lawyers sit on boards of foster care communities, and then find out to whom they're related.
Try looking decades.
Start with Congress.
There are still hundreds of thousand of undocumented minors 'missing' in this country, not counting many of our citizen foster care children essentially 'passed around.' (There are some truly wonderful foster parents out here but not every child in need gets one.)
Try looking decades.
Start with Congress.
There are still hundreds of thousand of undocumented minors 'missing' in this country, not counting many of our citizen foster care children essentially 'passed around.' (There are some truly wonderful foster parents out here but not every child in need gets one.)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 02:01 PM (NFX2v)
112
One of the attorneys I worked for in my paralegal days said that he had once been offered the job of general counsel at Playboy, but decided that his wife would not approve, and so turned it down.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (77rzZ)
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I represented Playboy back in the day. Not joking. It was mostly assessing litigation risk for acquisitions, so not sexy work, but a cool client for a 20-something guy to have.
My main contact at the company was a lady who's name I can't quite remember -- Alexandra, or something like that -- who was an aging smokeshow. I always assumed, but of course never asked, that she got her start at the company as a model or playmate.
I did litigation risk for a XXX-rated enterprise they were looking at buying. I learned that there were very specific "rules" governing what sex acts and how much could be shown for each "rating." R can show this, NC17 can show that, XXX can show this, etc.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (77rzZ)
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I represented Playboy back in the day. Not joking. It was mostly assessing litigation risk for acquisitions, so not sexy work, but a cool client for a 20-something guy to have.
My main contact at the company was a lady who's name I can't quite remember -- Alexandra, or something like that -- who was an aging smokeshow. I always assumed, but of course never asked, that she got her start at the company as a model or playmate.
I did litigation risk for a XXX-rated enterprise they were looking at buying. I learned that there were very specific "rules" governing what sex acts and how much could be shown for each "rating." R can show this, NC17 can show that, XXX can show this, etc.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
113
I'm guessing a Coffindaffer was someone who liked having sex in coffins, and it stuck to some unfortunate -and kinky- family.
Posted by: Wally at August 17, 2026 02:01 PM (avzFa)
The surname Coffindaffer is an Americanized German name with disputed etymological roots. The most scholarly consensus suggests it derives from the German Koffendaffer or Kaufendaffer, translating to "trunk maker," "chest carpenter," or potentially "buyer/trader from Daff(er)", rather than the English words for coffin and devil.
Posted by: Wally at August 17, 2026 02:01 PM (avzFa)
The surname Coffindaffer is an Americanized German name with disputed etymological roots. The most scholarly consensus suggests it derives from the German Koffendaffer or Kaufendaffer, translating to "trunk maker," "chest carpenter," or potentially "buyer/trader from Daff(er)", rather than the English words for coffin and devil.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:03 PM (ExV1e)
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I look at the news and see how many social media influencers are dying at an early age and I wonder where this world is going.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (tvdD1)
They want population control. They will get it by any means necessary.
I look at the news and see how many social media influencers are dying at an early age and I wonder where this world is going.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (tvdD1)
They want population control. They will get it by any means necessary.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:04 PM (2YhKe)
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The surname Coffindaffer is an Americanized German name with disputed etymological roots. The most scholarly consensus suggests it derives from the German Koffendaffer or Kaufendaffer, translating to "trunk maker," "chest carpenter," or potentially "buyer/trader from Daff(er)", rather than the English words for coffin and devil.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:03 PM
Hermanx!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:03 PM
Hermanx!
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (0sNs1)
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106 I was reading a thread by Bruce Fenton where he argues people should stop blaming baby boomers collectively for the modern price of housing and instead should blame the politicians that printed so many dollars that left us with the current prices.
And...he's not wrong.
The responses? But those politicians were boomers!
This is the problem with the generational mindset. Because if you make it about "boomers" nothing will change. If you make it about pols stealing money and paying off interest groups maybe it will.
Because the Gen X Dems/GOPers are going to do the same things the Boomer ones did.
Note: I am not a boomer.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:58 PM (sKqQm)
Inflation affects wages as well. Migration and concentration of people in small geographic areas are the main drivers. Space is a physical supply limitation that doesn't really scale the same way as construction materials.
And...he's not wrong.
The responses? But those politicians were boomers!
This is the problem with the generational mindset. Because if you make it about "boomers" nothing will change. If you make it about pols stealing money and paying off interest groups maybe it will.
Because the Gen X Dems/GOPers are going to do the same things the Boomer ones did.
Note: I am not a boomer.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:58 PM (sKqQm)
Inflation affects wages as well. Migration and concentration of people in small geographic areas are the main drivers. Space is a physical supply limitation that doesn't really scale the same way as construction materials.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (okun6)
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I wonder where this world is going.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (tvdD1)
And why you're in a handbasket?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 17, 2026 01:38 PM (tvdD1)
And why you're in a handbasket?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (ExV1e)
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If it advances hate against a minority group it is racist whether it is an accurate data point or not
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The issue is behavior numbnuts. It's OK to judge people on the content of their character, not pre-judge people based on their ethnicity or religion or color of their skin etc etc
They like to try and move the goalposts. Judging people on their character is now "racist"? Since when? Well then, Fuck You. Whites are the Minority, by the way. Getting tired of hearing that bullshit.
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The issue is behavior numbnuts. It's OK to judge people on the content of their character, not pre-judge people based on their ethnicity or religion or color of their skin etc etc
They like to try and move the goalposts. Judging people on their character is now "racist"? Since when? Well then, Fuck You. Whites are the Minority, by the way. Getting tired of hearing that bullshit.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (j7oMK)
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How low do you have to be for Hefner to turn you in for your sexual perversions?
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"If anyone is going to exploit this woman, it going to be me, and no one else!! I did not give her a release !"
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"If anyone is going to exploit this woman, it going to be me, and no one else!! I did not give her a release !"
Posted by: HH at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (g47mK)
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Children are molested and turn to self-exploitation all the time. It's normalized.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (bX16E)
121
Ossof, without proof, implied last night that President Trump is having an affair with Natalie Harp
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (RHGPo)
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> .oh and no kids unlike Hollywood (as far as we know)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
Yes, Hefner's personal tastes were on public display every month, and those tastes were quite obviously for well-endowed adult women.
Young, maybe. Underage, no.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
Yes, Hefner's personal tastes were on public display every month, and those tastes were quite obviously for well-endowed adult women.
Young, maybe. Underage, no.
Posted by: B. J. Hunnicutt at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (QaH55)
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Ossof, without proof, implied last night that President Trump is having an affair with Natalie Harp
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (RHGPo)
Sue! Sue like the wind!!!
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM (RHGPo)
Sue! Sue like the wind!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (2YhKe)
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In previous thread, someone mentioned owls as possible crow-predetors. In our previous semi-suburban/urban home, we had a family of (very large) great horned owls living in one of our old trees. There were also a LOT of crows in the neighborhood. The two species did not peacefully co-exist. An owl or two would get active - the owls hunterd in packs, hooting to drive prey to other waiting to kill. When hooting happened a very large murder of crows would surround them, cawing their fool heads off. I suppose the owls were raiding their nests. I did like the owls. Once I found a neatly severed squirrel head in my gutter. Since I hate squirrels (nasty, climbing rats with good PR), I was quite happy. Thanks, owls!
Posted by: Martin Tell at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (sFNX2)
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our investgative services are so easily corrupted."
All investigative services. Everywhere. Human nature, I guess.
All investigative services. Everywhere. Human nature, I guess.
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (XuXeR)
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"Alexandra, or something like that "
Alex the Chick? Please don't hurt me...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (QaH55)
Nah. He said 'aging.'
Alex the Chick? Please don't hurt me...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (QaH55)
Nah. He said 'aging.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (PGK1w)
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Children are molested and turn to self-exploitation all the time. It's normalized.
Arianna Grande got her start on a Nick show with a girl named Jennette McCurdy
McCurdy has written about how Nick execs pressured her for sex and how she said no. Grande has not commented on it.
Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Arianna Grande got her start on a Nick show with a girl named Jennette McCurdy
McCurdy has written about how Nick execs pressured her for sex and how she said no. Grande has not commented on it.
Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm)
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Nah. He said 'aging.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (PGK1w)
Her bra size, she's more 'sagging.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (PGK1w)
Her bra size, she's more 'sagging.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (2YhKe)
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Inflation affects wages as well. Migration and concentration of people in small geographic areas are the main drivers. Space is a physical supply limitation that doesn't really scale the same way as construction materials.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (okun6)
I'm guessing building codes play a part as well although they'd blame those on Boomers.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (okun6)
I'm guessing building codes play a part as well although they'd blame those on Boomers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (ExV1e)
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“My attorney was blown away; they didn’t want to hear from me,” Christiansen said to NewsNation.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I know nothing about this specific person, but I do know that even the "legitimate" modelling industry is a nasty, exploitative business where some girls will do almost anything to get ahead (guys too).
I can't imagine what the world of nude modelling and porn is like. I assume almost everyone in it has skeletons falling out of their closet and would thus be terrible witnesses.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 01:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I know nothing about this specific person, but I do know that even the "legitimate" modelling industry is a nasty, exploitative business where some girls will do almost anything to get ahead (guys too).
I can't imagine what the world of nude modelling and porn is like. I assume almost everyone in it has skeletons falling out of their closet and would thus be terrible witnesses.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iFTx/)
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The surname Coffindaffer is an Americanized German name with disputed etymological roots. The most scholarly consensus suggests it derives from the German Koffendaffer or Kaufendaffer, translating to "trunk maker," "chest carpenter," or potentially "buyer/trader from Daff(er)", rather than the English words for coffin and devil.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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She should change it to something normal, like Boxmonger.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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She should change it to something normal, like Boxmonger.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (yljFf)
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The host asked the girls what they thought the yacht owner would get out of the experience of taking them on an expensive vacation if not sex and the amusing part is the girls were all surprised by this question as if they'd never thought of it before.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:42 PM (sKqQm)
Pretty gals grow up getting a lot of stuff gratis just so some guy can be around them.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:42 PM (sKqQm)
Pretty gals grow up getting a lot of stuff gratis just so some guy can be around them.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)
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121 Ossof, without proof, implied last night that President Trump is having an affair with Natalie Harp
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM
For goodness sake. Trump is 80 years old. Let’s be realistic here.
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 02:06 PM
For goodness sake. Trump is 80 years old. Let’s be realistic here.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (ZdaMQ)
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McCurdy has written about how Nick execs pressured her for sex and how she said no. Grande has not commented on it.
Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm)
There were multiple instances where the older brother on the iCarly show wouldn't leave the girls alone with a few of the 'execs' in the studio because he was aware of what was happening and did what he could to protect them while keeping his job.
Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm)
There were multiple instances where the older brother on the iCarly show wouldn't leave the girls alone with a few of the 'execs' in the studio because he was aware of what was happening and did what he could to protect them while keeping his job.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:10 PM (2YhKe)
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I'm not necessarily a defender of HH but he never did anything illegal and never abused his girls . Everyone was of age and weren't held against their will.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:10 PM (KC5Lt)
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"Alexandra, or something like that "
Alex the Chick? Please don't hurt me...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (QaH55)
Nah. He said 'aging.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (PGK1w)
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LOL. No, not her. This Alex was quite tall. I understand AtC is quite small.
Alex the Chick? Please don't hurt me...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (QaH55)
Nah. He said 'aging.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:07 PM (PGK1w)
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LOL. No, not her. This Alex was quite tall. I understand AtC is quite small.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
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130 Inflation affects wages as well. Migration and concentration of people in small geographic areas are the main drivers. Space is a physical supply limitation that doesn't really scale the same way as construction materials.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (okun6)
I'm guessing building codes play a part as well although they'd blame those on Boomers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (ExV1e)
They can, but sprawling largely makes more sense over the long run rather than trying to stack a massive amount of people in tiny rooms and the latter seems to be what is being pushed for.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:05 PM (okun6)
I'm guessing building codes play a part as well although they'd blame those on Boomers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (ExV1e)
They can, but sprawling largely makes more sense over the long run rather than trying to stack a massive amount of people in tiny rooms and the latter seems to be what is being pushed for.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 17, 2026 02:11 PM (okun6)
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A few here like to claim that Epstein and Co didn't really abuse anyone, that these "women" were all social climbers "asking for it".
And that Epstein's real business was money.
This reminds me of the people who insist on cutting a pizza into squares.
And that Epstein's real business was money.
This reminds me of the people who insist on cutting a pizza into squares.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 02:12 PM (rJIHE)
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Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm
With an eating disorder and history of drug abuse.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm
With an eating disorder and history of drug abuse.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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"Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity"
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"Friends for eternity, loyalty, honesty,
We'll stay together through thick or thin..."
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"Friends for eternity, loyalty, honesty,
We'll stay together through thick or thin..."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 02:12 PM (A1Gc1)
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IIRC Hefner had some notion about a whole playboy lifestyle that of course featured sex with good looking women, but also some notion of being a well rounded person interested in philosophy and the like which is why playboy had interviews with the thinkers and writers of the day.
His competitors like Flint just wanted to sell T&A
Not arguing Hefner was a good guy, but he was at least a bit different then your average pornographer...
His competitors like Flint just wanted to sell T&A
Not arguing Hefner was a good guy, but he was at least a bit different then your average pornographer...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (2YhKe)
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LOL. No, not her. This Alex was quite tall. I understand AtC is quite small.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
It’s why we like each other, we see eye to eye.
Badum dum
LOL. No, not her. This Alex was quite tall. I understand AtC is quite small.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
It’s why we like each other, we see eye to eye.
Badum dum
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Paige Young was a playmate who was a steady girlfriend of Bill Cosby. He dumped her as she approached 30 y/o. She blew her brains out in 1974. Cosby was scum for many decades. Witnesses said she always seemed drugged when with Cos.
Posted by: Tales of the Mansion. at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (JM9I6)
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136 I'm not necessarily a defender of HH but he never did anything illegal and never abused his girls . Everyone was of age and weren't held against their will.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yeah, all he did was degrade our entire society.
I must have been a teen when I saw an article (I think it was in playboy) about how abortion is the most economical form of birth control. Even as a teen, and not at all conservative, I understoood his whole persona was evil trash. That whole smoking jacket obejectification of women helped destroy America. F him.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yeah, all he did was degrade our entire society.
I must have been a teen when I saw an article (I think it was in playboy) about how abortion is the most economical form of birth control. Even as a teen, and not at all conservative, I understoood his whole persona was evil trash. That whole smoking jacket obejectification of women helped destroy America. F him.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (yljFf)
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Unlike McCurdy you'll notice Grande has become a "megastar".
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm
With an eating disorder and history of drug abuse.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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And mental illness. Watch her in interviews. She's not all there.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm
With an eating disorder and history of drug abuse.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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And mental illness. Watch her in interviews. She's not all there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:14 PM (iFTx/)
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Pretty gals grow up getting a lot of stuff gratis just so some guy can be around them.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)
This is ENTIRELY correct.
A cow orker of mine is simply beautiful. Drop dead, gorgeous. She is also woefully naive. She can't understand why people keep doing nice things for her.
[Name], I said, if I got to move through life the way you get to move through life, a lot of nice things would happen to me, too.
She didn't get it.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)
This is ENTIRELY correct.
A cow orker of mine is simply beautiful. Drop dead, gorgeous. She is also woefully naive. She can't understand why people keep doing nice things for her.
[Name], I said, if I got to move through life the way you get to move through life, a lot of nice things would happen to me, too.
She didn't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:14 PM (PGK1w)
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until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies."
"Compete"? That's funny. They'll rip each other's eyes out.
"Compete"? That's funny. They'll rip each other's eyes out.
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (XuXeR)
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Chest carpentry sounds like a primitive version of plastic surgery.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (0U5gm)
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Sprawling largely makes more sense over the long run rather than trying to stack a massive amount of people in tiny rooms and the latter seems to be what is being pushed for.
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Gotta have somewhere to eat your bugs
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Gotta have somewhere to eat your bugs
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (A1Gc1)
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LOL. No, not her. This Alex was quite tall. I understand AtC is quite small.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
It’s why we like each other, we see eye to eye.
Badum dum
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (ZdaMQ)
Only if AtC's on her Stepstool of Magnificence.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17
It’s why we like each other, we see eye to eye.
Badum dum
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (ZdaMQ)
Only if AtC's on her Stepstool of Magnificence.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (PGK1w)
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Yahoo News has more details:
https://tinyurl.com/2424xms4
Epstein reportedly sexually assaulted her and trafficked her to "Macau casino billionaire Stanley Ho".
https://tinyurl.com/2424xms4
Epstein reportedly sexually assaulted her and trafficked her to "Macau casino billionaire Stanley Ho".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (IG3/x)
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We're living in a bureaucratic techno hellscape.
The driver of a maroon Durango kills three in a hit and run. An ALPR hit flags a Durango. Despite the fact that the tagged Durango is black, has no damage, has not had its airbag deployed, is a partial plate mismatch, and witnesses say that's not the car, they went after the driver.
They took the car for months. She sued to get it back. They arrested her for triple homicide after she sued to get the vehicle back. She sat in jail for 13 days on serious charges.
They put her through seven months of shit because the ALPR system flagged her car and only dropped charges when someone pulled their head out and got the correct driver.
http://tiny.cc/efs8101
The driver of a maroon Durango kills three in a hit and run. An ALPR hit flags a Durango. Despite the fact that the tagged Durango is black, has no damage, has not had its airbag deployed, is a partial plate mismatch, and witnesses say that's not the car, they went after the driver.
They took the car for months. She sued to get it back. They arrested her for triple homicide after she sued to get the vehicle back. She sat in jail for 13 days on serious charges.
They put her through seven months of shit because the ALPR system flagged her car and only dropped charges when someone pulled their head out and got the correct driver.
http://tiny.cc/efs8101
Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2026 02:16 PM (mkw2N)
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91 the scuttlebutt in her circle was that Cosby would spike young lady’s drinks for the obvious reason.
so he didn't have to worry about being a sparkling conversationalist?
so he didn't have to worry about being a sparkling conversationalist?
Posted by: anachronda at August 17, 2026 02:16 PM (v3pYe)
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A few here like to claim that Epstein and Co didn't really abuse anyone, that these "women" were all social climbers "asking for it".
And that Epstein's real business was money.
For myself I think its pretty clear Epstein and Maxwell were abusing underage girls. The fact we know they pulled Prince Andrew into it tells me it wasn't just Prince Andrew either. Now underage here I am claiming to be below 18 though age of consent goes lower, I don't want to get into that argument...
Now how big was Epstein's underage sex ring vs supplying yacht girls vs just doling out money for favors? That still isn't clear. The fact most of the women that came forward seem to have been the yacht girl type not underage though makes me believe it was more limited then I had initially thought.
And that Epstein's real business was money.
For myself I think its pretty clear Epstein and Maxwell were abusing underage girls. The fact we know they pulled Prince Andrew into it tells me it wasn't just Prince Andrew either. Now underage here I am claiming to be below 18 though age of consent goes lower, I don't want to get into that argument...
Now how big was Epstein's underage sex ring vs supplying yacht girls vs just doling out money for favors? That still isn't clear. The fact most of the women that came forward seem to have been the yacht girl type not underage though makes me believe it was more limited then I had initially thought.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (sKqQm)
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A few here like to claim that Epstein and Co didn't really abuse anyone, that these "women" were all social climbers "asking for it".
And that Epstein's real business was money.
Every person who's been prosecuted for doing something illegal with Epstein has been prosecuted for financial/intelligence crimes. Every woman who's been identified as having been 'exploited' by Epstein was of legal age at the time.
I'm not suggesting that pedo rings don't exist, and I'm not suggesting the Epstein would be unwilling to procure a minor if that's what the deal required. He confessed to being a pedo himself. I'm just saying that all the people who pound their chests about the guy and children have exactly zero evidence that they're correct. Not that it'll prevent them from holding on to that dream.
And that Epstein's real business was money.
Every person who's been prosecuted for doing something illegal with Epstein has been prosecuted for financial/intelligence crimes. Every woman who's been identified as having been 'exploited' by Epstein was of legal age at the time.
I'm not suggesting that pedo rings don't exist, and I'm not suggesting the Epstein would be unwilling to procure a minor if that's what the deal required. He confessed to being a pedo himself. I'm just saying that all the people who pound their chests about the guy and children have exactly zero evidence that they're correct. Not that it'll prevent them from holding on to that dream.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)
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Someday people will look back and wonder how Donald frigging Trump ever got elected, not once but twice, by explicitly running against these scumbags.
Miracles do happen. The trick is to know when they do and appreciate it.
Miracles do happen. The trick is to know when they do and appreciate it.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (viF8m)
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I understand AtC is quite small"
The phrase is "vertically challenged". Do not use the "s" word..
*backs away slowly
The phrase is "vertically challenged". Do not use the "s" word..
*backs away slowly
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (XuXeR)
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150 Chest carpentry sounds like a primitive version of plastic surgery.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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With chisels and the Stanley #7 plane
Survival rates were a bit low.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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With chisels and the Stanley #7 plane
Survival rates were a bit low.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (yljFf)
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103 “My attorney was blown away; they didn’t want to hear from me,” Christiansen said to NewsNation.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Posted by: Piper
Agree.
I think she could also be part on the never-ending Democrat haranguing regarding PDT.
Much more followed.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)
If I had to guess and view through judgmental lenses, she probably does not come across as the most reliable or sympathetic witness. I am no Dr. Blade, Esquire, but I would guess of all witnesses that would be easily ripped to shreds on the stand, this is one.
Posted by: Piper
Agree.
I think she could also be part on the never-ending Democrat haranguing regarding PDT.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (NFX2v)
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Pretty gals grow up getting a lot of stuff gratis just so some guy can be around them.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)
This is ENTIRELY correct.
A cow orker of mine is simply beautiful. Drop dead, gorgeous. She is also woefully naive. She can't understand why people keep doing nice things for her.
[Name], I said, if I got to move through life the way you get to move through life, a lot of nice things would happen to me, too.
She didn't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:14 PM (PGK1w)
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True, but the yacht girls have already made the rounds at the local rich-guy parties where much the same thing happens as happens on the yachts. So they know exactly what the game is. They might not like the game, but they know what they're getting into. They bought that ticket.
It's not unlikely that they think the same applies to yacht vacations, until they find they have to "compete" with other pretty gals for the goodies.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)
This is ENTIRELY correct.
A cow orker of mine is simply beautiful. Drop dead, gorgeous. She is also woefully naive. She can't understand why people keep doing nice things for her.
[Name], I said, if I got to move through life the way you get to move through life, a lot of nice things would happen to me, too.
She didn't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:14 PM (PGK1w)
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True, but the yacht girls have already made the rounds at the local rich-guy parties where much the same thing happens as happens on the yachts. So they know exactly what the game is. They might not like the game, but they know what they're getting into. They bought that ticket.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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Why does Grande look more asian now?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
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Hefner started his gig in the 1950s. Things were a lot different back then, to say the least. Porn, especially through the US Mail, was an area for litigation. Playboy was undoubtedly setup as a "Gentleman's Magazine" with things other than major cooterage. Art, music, culture, that way it could get by.
Was it mailed in a plain brown wrapper? Probably, I dunno.
Was it mailed in a plain brown wrapper? Probably, I dunno.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (j7oMK)
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So they know exactly what the game is. They might not like the game, but they know what they're getting into. They bought that ticket.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
Yes. True.
Cow orker has not monetized or weaponized her hotness.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
Yes. True.
Cow orker has not monetized or weaponized her hotness.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (PGK1w)
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Why does Grande look more asian now?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
She now wants to be a Geisha f*ck doll?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
She now wants to be a Geisha f*ck doll?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (2YhKe)
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (cXHM+)
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"We'll be fine. We'll still have the carpenter to cut things off and the sailmaker to sew things up."
-- one of the Aubrey/Maturin books, when Dr. Maturin requests some shore leave
-- one of the Aubrey/Maturin books, when Dr. Maturin requests some shore leave
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (IG3/x)
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"Macau casino billionaire Stanley Ho".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM
Stanley Ho?, Stanley Ho? He owes me money.....
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM
Stanley Ho?, Stanley Ho? He owes me money.....
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:21 PM (cpFbA)
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Was it mailed in a plain brown wrapper? Probably, I dunno.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (j7oMK)
Black plastic bag.
Was it mailed in a plain brown wrapper? Probably, I dunno.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (j7oMK)
Black plastic bag.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:21 PM (2YhKe)
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It's kind of an 80s fever dream that Epstein was first turned in to the authorities by Hugh Hefner and Donald Trump.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:21 PM (2ocoG)
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Epstein reportedly sexually assaulted her and trafficked her to "Macau casino billionaire Stanley Ho".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (IG3/x)
Did he assault her in the US? If so, why didn't she report it to the local authorities where it happened? If not, what did they expect the FBI to do about it? Macau isn't part of their jurisdiction.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM (IG3/x)
Did he assault her in the US? If so, why didn't she report it to the local authorities where it happened? If not, what did they expect the FBI to do about it? Macau isn't part of their jurisdiction.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (ExV1e)
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She’s turning Japanese?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (cXHM+)
I'm glad I left that slow curve hanging there for you.
She’s turning Japanese?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (cXHM+)
I'm glad I left that slow curve hanging there for you.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (2YhKe)
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Kam Fong as Chin Ho
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (viF8m)
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It's kind of an 80s fever dream that Epstein was first turned in to the authorities by Hugh Hefner and Donald Trump.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:21 PM (2ocoG)
But Trump is a pedo!!!!!!
- - - - - - - The Left
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:21 PM (2ocoG)
But Trump is a pedo!!!!!!
- - - - - - - The Left
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (2YhKe)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)
The most well known Epstein accuser Giuffrey was also a recruiter for Epstein and not just a victim.
The most well known Epstein accuser Giuffrey was also a recruiter for Epstein and not just a victim.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (KC5Lt)
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163 Why does Grande look more asian now?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17,
She always had almond eyes, but I think she got a fox eye lift, too. She is Italian, though, and we all pronounce her name wrongly. It’s gran-Dee not Gran-day.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17,
She always had almond eyes, but I think she got a fox eye lift, too. She is Italian, though, and we all pronounce her name wrongly. It’s gran-Dee not Gran-day.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (ZdaMQ)
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The stages of Ariana Grande......
https://shorturl.fm/r1eHz
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (2YhKe)
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I'll bet any amount of money she's had work done already
https://shorturl.fm/r1eHz
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:13 PM (2YhKe)
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I'll bet any amount of money she's had work done already
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (iFTx/)
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"Macau casino billionaire Stanley Ho".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM
Stanley Ho?, Stanley Ho? He owes me money.....
Posted by: Mister Scott
Who Ho? Hu Ho? No. You Ho?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:15 PM
Stanley Ho?, Stanley Ho? He owes me money.....
Posted by: Mister Scott
Who Ho? Hu Ho? No. You Ho?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (AzRNx)
Posted by: Dennis Reynolds at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (bX16E)
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Epstein reportedly sexually assaulted her
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Rape. Just use the word Rape, it's a perfectly accurate term.
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Rape. Just use the word Rape, it's a perfectly accurate term.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (j7oMK)
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She’s turning Japanese?
Instead of The Vapors I give you a different version... https://tinyurl.com/4dj5su4b
Instead of The Vapors I give you a different version... https://tinyurl.com/4dj5su4b
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (sKqQm)
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For myself I think its pretty clear Epstein and Maxwell were abusing underage girls. The fact we know they pulled Prince Andrew into it tells me it wasn't just Prince Andrew either. Now underage here I am claiming to be below 18 though age of consent goes lower, I don't want to get into that argument...
So you want to convict Andrew, for example, of a crime which he didn't commit by changing the law on the fly so you can get a win?
So you want to convict Andrew, for example, of a crime which he didn't commit by changing the law on the fly so you can get a win?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (ExV1e)
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I'm not suggesting that pedo rings don't exist, and I'm not suggesting the Epstein would be unwilling to procure a minor if that's what the deal required. He confessed to being a pedo himself. I'm just saying that all the people who pound their chests about the guy and children have exactly zero evidence that they're correct. Not that it'll prevent them from holding on to that dream.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)
What's chest pounding about taking into account the fact that he confessed to being a pedo and that we know of one definite case where an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him.
More sex abuse victims don't come forward than do. Nevermind when government protection was involved or they were a kid. I would imagine finance crimes are easier to get people on and also if you're gonna confess to something and go to prison it had BETTER be financial and not the other.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)
What's chest pounding about taking into account the fact that he confessed to being a pedo and that we know of one definite case where an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him.
More sex abuse victims don't come forward than do. Nevermind when government protection was involved or they were a kid. I would imagine finance crimes are easier to get people on and also if you're gonna confess to something and go to prison it had BETTER be financial and not the other.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (rJIHE)
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Yacht girls? But enough about Megan Markle.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (2ocoG)
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> If not, what did they expect the FBI to do about it? Macau isn't part of their jurisdiction.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (ExV1e)
Transporting a person for trafficking purposes is illegal, even though it might be legal in the destination country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM (ExV1e)
Transporting a person for trafficking purposes is illegal, even though it might be legal in the destination country.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (2YhKe)
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Yes. True.
Cow orker has not monetized or weaponized her hotness.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (PGK1w)
You might offer your services as her agent for OnlyFans.
Cow orker has not monetized or weaponized her hotness.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at August 17, 2026 02:20 PM (PGK1w)
You might offer your services as her agent for OnlyFans.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:24 PM (KC5Lt)
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Did he assault her in the US? If so, why didn't she report it to the local authorities where it happened? If not, what did they expect the FBI to do about it? Macau isn't part of their jurisdiction.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM
I visited Macau once back in the late 80s. We walked through the casinos and spent our money and then wandered over to the border crossing with china. I noticed about every third person going back into china had a clear trash bag slung over their backs filled with rolls of toilet paper. I will never forget that sight.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:22 PM
I visited Macau once back in the late 80s. We walked through the casinos and spent our money and then wandered over to the border crossing with china. I noticed about every third person going back into china had a clear trash bag slung over their backs filled with rolls of toilet paper. I will never forget that sight.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:25 PM (cpFbA)
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>>Did he assault her in the US? If so, why didn't she report it to the local authorities where it happened? If not, what did they expect the FBI to do about it? Macau isn't part of their jurisdiction.
I wouldn't count on that.
Did you know the FBI has an office in Ukraine? They have offices around the world despite what the label says.
The Russia collusion hoax also came from Ukraine.
Coincidentally.
I wouldn't count on that.
Did you know the FBI has an office in Ukraine? They have offices around the world despite what the label says.
The Russia collusion hoax also came from Ukraine.
Coincidentally.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:25 PM (viF8m)
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Was it mailed in a plain brown wrapper? Probably, I dunno.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (j7oMK)
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I'm sure it was. My neighbors dad had a subscription -- I don't think I ever saw them though -- he was a writer and I guess in that circle it was important because they interviewed a lot of writers and people from the NY literary scene.
I seem to recall the newsstands that sold them had a special outer cover on them as late as the 70s that was plain brown. As a kid I understood that that pile of brown wrapped magazines behind the candy counter was stuff like that.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (j7oMK)
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I'm sure it was. My neighbors dad had a subscription -- I don't think I ever saw them though -- he was a writer and I guess in that circle it was important because they interviewed a lot of writers and people from the NY literary scene.
I seem to recall the newsstands that sold them had a special outer cover on them as late as the 70s that was plain brown. As a kid I understood that that pile of brown wrapped magazines behind the candy counter was stuff like that.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at August 17, 2026 02:25 PM (yljFf)
Posted by: The Tall Skinny State at August 17, 2026 02:26 PM (IG3/x)
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I visited Macau once back in the late 80s. We walked through the casinos and spent our money and then wandered over to the border crossing with china. I noticed about every third person going back into china had a clear trash bag slung over their backs filled with rolls of toilet paper. I will never forget that sight.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:25 PM (cpFbA)
Macaca!!!!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:25 PM (cpFbA)
Macaca!!!!
Posted by: George Allen at August 17, 2026 02:26 PM (2YhKe)
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32 You have to truly appreciate that Hefner is considered sleazy by the chattering class for the business he’s in, yet he not only takes the moral high road but aptly shows how our allegedly premier law enforcement agency is the bigger scumbags.
Hefner did what pretty much all of Hollywood does, but he was a bit more honest about it and who he was...oh and no kids unlike Hollywood (as far as we know)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
He actually had a daughter - Christie - who ran Playboy Enterprises.
Hefner did what pretty much all of Hollywood does, but he was a bit more honest about it and who he was...oh and no kids unlike Hollywood (as far as we know)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)
He actually had a daughter - Christie - who ran Playboy Enterprises.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (M/bUm)
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I'm not suggesting that pedo rings don't exist, and I'm not suggesting the Epstein would be unwilling to procure a minor if that's what the deal required. He confessed to being a pedo himself. I'm just saying that all the people who pound their chests about the guy and children have exactly zero evidence that they're correct. Not that it'll prevent them from holding on to that dream.
Mike Benz thinks that Epstein wasn't explicitly running a pedo scheme, he was running a "if you sign up for whatever the CIA wants I'll get you anything you want" scheme. And it just so happens that a lot of the clients like 'em young.
Mike Benz thinks that Epstein wasn't explicitly running a pedo scheme, he was running a "if you sign up for whatever the CIA wants I'll get you anything you want" scheme. And it just so happens that a lot of the clients like 'em young.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (2ocoG)
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So you want to convict Andrew, for example, of a crime which he didn't commit by changing the law on the fly so you can get a win?
Fortunately for Prince Andrew it isn't up to me what Britain sets their laws of consent to.
In most jurisdictions in the US the age of consent is also below 18 but the same but there are other charges that are usually brought if the older person is a few decades older
Fortunately for Prince Andrew it isn't up to me what Britain sets their laws of consent to.
In most jurisdictions in the US the age of consent is also below 18 but the same but there are other charges that are usually brought if the older person is a few decades older
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (sKqQm)
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The most well known Epstein accuser Giuffrey was also a recruiter for Epstein and not just a victim.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (KC5Lt)
She was of legal age. Did she recruit underage girls? I don't know. I haven't cared enough about the story to follow it because it seems like a bunch of rich people behaving badly and I don't feel like getting all worked up over it.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (KC5Lt)
She was of legal age. Did she recruit underage girls? I don't know. I haven't cared enough about the story to follow it because it seems like a bunch of rich people behaving badly and I don't feel like getting all worked up over it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (ExV1e)
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Playboy mostly showed boobs and butts, with some pubic hair back when pubic hair on women was still a thing.
Nothing like Hustler or even Penthouse, whose pictorials could've doubled as anatomical references for gynecology students.
Nothing like Hustler or even Penthouse, whose pictorials could've doubled as anatomical references for gynecology students.
Posted by: The Tall Skinny State at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (IG3/x)
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Playboy kicked started Leroy Neiman's career.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (KC5Lt)
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Mike Benz thinks that Epstein wasn't explicitly running a pedo scheme, he was running a "if you sign up for whatever the CIA wants I'll get you anything you want" scheme. And it just so happens that a lot of the clients like 'em young.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (2ocoG)
That sounds like a distinction without a difference.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:27 PM (2ocoG)
That sounds like a distinction without a difference.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (rJIHE)
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McCurdy seems normal after she escaped. Grande may be a megastar but she an anorexic heart attack away from being the next Pannetierre
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (rp63B)
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Playboy Mansion Grotto was declared a Superfund site in 1980.
Posted by: Your Friend At The EPA at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (JM9I6)
Posted by: Total Shit at August 17, 2026 02:29 PM (pq3aS)
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Speaking of which...we didn't save the Cheerleader is the world going to end now (never bothered to watch how that show ended)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (sKqQm)
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>>I noticed about every third person going back into china had a clear trash bag slung over their backs filled with rolls of toilet paper. I will never forget that sight.
There used to be, might still be, a train that runs from Shenzhen to Hong Kong on a commuter basis. Last time I was in Hong Kong, about a year before the CCP took control after the Brits surrendered, the Hong Kong authorities started limiting the number of Chinese that could go to Hong Kong because they would buy up all the TP, baby diapers and other staples that weren't available in China.
China is asshoe.
There used to be, might still be, a train that runs from Shenzhen to Hong Kong on a commuter basis. Last time I was in Hong Kong, about a year before the CCP took control after the Brits surrendered, the Hong Kong authorities started limiting the number of Chinese that could go to Hong Kong because they would buy up all the TP, baby diapers and other staples that weren't available in China.
China is asshoe.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (viF8m)
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McCurdy seems normal after she escaped. Grande may be a megastar but she an anorexic heart attack away from being the next Pannetierre
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (rp63B)
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I have Grande down on my Dead Pool for an OD or suicide by the time she's 40, possibly sooner.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 17, 2026 02:28 PM (rp63B)
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I have Grande down on my Dead Pool for an OD or suicide by the time she's 40, possibly sooner.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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What's chest pounding about taking into account the fact that he confessed to being a pedo and that we know of one definite case where an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him.
- he confessed to being a pedo
- an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him
but was he going to traffic the girl, or just fuck her himself. What if he wasn't the center of a huge pedo ring? What if it was just financial shenanigans and borderline treason? We have evidence for that.
- he confessed to being a pedo
- an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him
but was he going to traffic the girl, or just fuck her himself. What if he wasn't the center of a huge pedo ring? What if it was just financial shenanigans and borderline treason? We have evidence for that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ExV1e)
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188 Which is better?
Turning Japanese or being on a Mexican Radio?
Discuss......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at
Well, on one hand you get to be is a padded cell for wanting to look at the girl you are stalking from the inside. On the other hand, you get to be a drug dealing thief.
Turning Japanese or being on a Mexican Radio?
Discuss......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at
Well, on one hand you get to be is a padded cell for wanting to look at the girl you are stalking from the inside. On the other hand, you get to be a drug dealing thief.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ZdaMQ)
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That sounds like a distinction without a difference.
Yes and no. Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children, and that was his entire reason for being. The more nuanced version makes it somewhat less of a moral crusade.
Yes and no. Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children, and that was his entire reason for being. The more nuanced version makes it somewhat less of a moral crusade.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:31 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026 02:31 PM (AzRNx)
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> Rape. Just use the word Rape, it's a perfectly accurate term.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (j7oMK)
Grabbing a woman's breasts when she doesn't want you to is a sexual assault, but it's not rape.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:23 PM (j7oMK)
Grabbing a woman's breasts when she doesn't want you to is a sexual assault, but it's not rape.
Posted by: The Tall Skinny State at August 17, 2026 02:32 PM (IG3/x)
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Coffindaffer was a regular on CourtTV during the warmup, both trials, and the intermission period. She became a laughingstock for her absolute lack of knowledge on the case, its players, and her desperate attempt to make herself a factor in the reporting. She targeted Turtleboy hard, right up there with the former disgraced ADA Wendy Murphy.
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (0umlT)
Thanks. I watched the Emily d. Baker coverage, so missed all the court tv "exports."
Posted by: fringe at August 17, 2026 01:55 PM (0umlT)
Thanks. I watched the Emily d. Baker coverage, so missed all the court tv "exports."
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2026 02:32 PM (lIWP8)
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Playboy mostly showed boobs and butts, with some pubic hair back when pubic hair on women was still a thing.
The difference was penetration. Playboy had no penetration.
The only dirty magazines you will find in my Bum's Nest have penetration.
The difference was penetration. Playboy had no penetration.
The only dirty magazines you will find in my Bum's Nest have penetration.
Posted by: Bum In The Woods at August 17, 2026 02:32 PM (pq3aS)
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Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children, and that was his entire reason for being.
So what are the dems pissed about? I thought that was their plan?
So what are the dems pissed about? I thought that was their plan?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026 02:32 PM (AzRNx)
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FBI protects the criminal class. Always. Federal Bureau of the Inbred.
Posted by: little people at August 17, 2026 02:33 PM (ehY6c)
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"Playboy after Midnight" is some seriously entertaining stuff. You can see for ex. the Byrds and Grateful Dead, and guests cavorting around, dancing with gusto to undanceable music. Tube that is You has it all in psychodelic glory.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:33 PM (j7oMK)
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Christiansen's story suggests that if the FBI had acted on Hefner's calls, Epstein could have been held to account for his actions long before he was arrested and held awaiting trial. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to solicitation in Florida for which he received a very lenient and highly criticized work-release jail sentence.
One thing to keep in mind, Epstein had a waiting list of lefty pols, celebs and academics trying to get time alone with him after 2008.
My favorite was some academic who wanted Epstein to come to his conference and offered up he had good looking graduate students who would take good care of Jeffrey if he came...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (sKqQm)
Didn't he have an on-campus office somewhere?
One thing to keep in mind, Epstein had a waiting list of lefty pols, celebs and academics trying to get time alone with him after 2008.
My favorite was some academic who wanted Epstein to come to his conference and offered up he had good looking graduate students who would take good care of Jeffrey if he came...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 01:32 PM (sKqQm)
Didn't he have an on-campus office somewhere?
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2026 02:34 PM (uhVAy)
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but was he going to traffic the girl, or just fuck her himself. What if he wasn't the center of a huge pedo ring? What if it was just financial shenanigans and borderline treason? We have evidence for that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ExV1e)
The biggest evidence I have that there was definitely a ring was the media and Democrats claimed for decades there wasn't. And even with all the Trump bs stuff, the media *still* seems to be on the side of "nothing happened".
Maybe that's a poor conclusion on my part, but I call it "playing the odds".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ExV1e)
The biggest evidence I have that there was definitely a ring was the media and Democrats claimed for decades there wasn't. And even with all the Trump bs stuff, the media *still* seems to be on the side of "nothing happened".
Maybe that's a poor conclusion on my part, but I call it "playing the odds".
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 02:34 PM (rJIHE)
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NOOD Leftwing Lawless Judge
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 17, 2026 02:34 PM (iIyc0)
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Yes and no. Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children
One of the more amusing parts of this is if you look at the pols, celebs, and academics tied to Epstein you don't see them being particularly pro-Israel after getting favors from Epstein.
This is part of the reason I think he was directly working with British Intel, because you DO seem taking a European line...
Oh and in his private emails Epstein bitches about Israel and Trump...
One of the more amusing parts of this is if you look at the pols, celebs, and academics tied to Epstein you don't see them being particularly pro-Israel after getting favors from Epstein.
This is part of the reason I think he was directly working with British Intel, because you DO seem taking a European line...
Oh and in his private emails Epstein bitches about Israel and Trump...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (sKqQm)
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Playboy mostly showed boobs and butts, "
And "world peace", among other things.
Oh, and "people who make me laugh"
/ so I've been told
And "world peace", among other things.
Oh, and "people who make me laugh"
/ so I've been told
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (XuXeR)
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There used to be, might still be, a train that runs from Shenzhen to Hong Kong on a commuter basis. Last time I was in Hong Kong, about a year before the CCP took control after the Brits surrendered, the Hong Kong authorities started limiting the number of Chinese that could go to Hong Kong because they would buy up all the TP, baby diapers and other staples that weren't available in China.
China is asshoe.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM
Hong Kong was the absolute best liberty port in Westpac for a married guy. You could buy anything you wanted there and all of it was duty/tax free. They had some of the worlds best tailors there as well. If you wanted a new set of dress whites/blues you walk in get measured and pay them. They would deliver the uniforms to the ship in a day or two or the same day if you were in a hurry and paid a premium.
The China Fleet Club run by the Brits was unreal. Top end china along with real silverware and llardo's at factory prices. Again with free delivery to your ship.
Sadly that is all gone now that china owns the islands.
China is asshoe.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM
Hong Kong was the absolute best liberty port in Westpac for a married guy. You could buy anything you wanted there and all of it was duty/tax free. They had some of the worlds best tailors there as well. If you wanted a new set of dress whites/blues you walk in get measured and pay them. They would deliver the uniforms to the ship in a day or two or the same day if you were in a hurry and paid a premium.
The China Fleet Club run by the Brits was unreal. Top end china along with real silverware and llardo's at factory prices. Again with free delivery to your ship.
Sadly that is all gone now that china owns the islands.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (cpFbA)
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If I got invited to a Playboy mansion party back in the day I would have definitely gone.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (KC5Lt)
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I was watching a video by a "retired sex worker" and her claim was she didn't understand how so many men would pay to have sex with someone that didn't want them and how it was all misogyny.
==
well shit, by that standard literally every married man in the world since the beginning of time is a misogynist, because at one time or another wifey was just humoring him... Not that I am in favor of the process - prostitution that is . . .
And in all honesty, when the wife had baby fever many years ago, there were times where I felt like a piece of meat. A meaty sperm delivery device. I got over it. Pretty quickly as a matter of fact. If you dont want to do it, don't do it. But its easier than picking tomatos I guess.
==
well shit, by that standard literally every married man in the world since the beginning of time is a misogynist, because at one time or another wifey was just humoring him... Not that I am in favor of the process - prostitution that is . . .
And in all honesty, when the wife had baby fever many years ago, there were times where I felt like a piece of meat. A meaty sperm delivery device. I got over it. Pretty quickly as a matter of fact. If you dont want to do it, don't do it. But its easier than picking tomatos I guess.
Posted by: erm, just a minute at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (jvkDG)
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> Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children, and that was his entire reason for being.
In my experience, that's the position of a significant plurality of the right wing people who still care about Epstein. Lefties mostly only care about Epstein because they can show you pictures of Epstein and Trump together. To hear them talk about it, Trump and Epstein were the only perps involved.
In my experience, that's the position of a significant plurality of the right wing people who still care about Epstein. Lefties mostly only care about Epstein because they can show you pictures of Epstein and Trump together. To hear them talk about it, Trump and Epstein were the only perps involved.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (mkw2N)
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Grabbing a woman's breasts when she doesn't want you to is a sexual assault, but it's not rape
----
I suppose if we were talking about that, you might even have a point.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about Rape.
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I suppose if we were talking about that, you might even have a point.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about Rape.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 02:36 PM (j7oMK)
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What's chest pounding about taking into account the fact that he confessed to being a pedo and that we know of one definite case where an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him.
- he confessed to being a pedo
- an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him
but was he going to traffic the girl, or just fuck her himself. What if he wasn't the center of a huge pedo ring? What if it was just financial shenanigans and borderline treason? We have evidence for that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ExV1e)
And AFTER all that everyone from the New York MSM showed up at his big return party.
- he confessed to being a pedo
- an underage worker at mar-a-lago complained about him
but was he going to traffic the girl, or just fuck her himself. What if he wasn't the center of a huge pedo ring? What if it was just financial shenanigans and borderline treason? We have evidence for that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 02:30 PM (ExV1e)
And AFTER all that everyone from the New York MSM showed up at his big return party.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2026 02:36 PM (uhVAy)
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>>Mike Benz thinks that Epstein wasn't explicitly running a pedo scheme, he was running a "if you sign up for whatever the CIA wants I'll get you anything you want" scheme. And it just so happens that a lot of the clients like 'em young.
He's right.
Remember the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, scandal? John McCain and the Keating 5?
The BCCI was a CIA cutout based in Pakistan. It was used to launder money and fund off the books ops including gun running so governments wouldn't have to get their hands dirty in public.
That's what Epstein was all about. Sex trafficking was the least of his sins but the one the media wants everyone to fixate on.
And it worked.
He's right.
Remember the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, scandal? John McCain and the Keating 5?
The BCCI was a CIA cutout based in Pakistan. It was used to launder money and fund off the books ops including gun running so governments wouldn't have to get their hands dirty in public.
That's what Epstein was all about. Sex trafficking was the least of his sins but the one the media wants everyone to fixate on.
And it worked.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:36 PM (viF8m)
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Nood. Activist judge who looks like you expect her to look.
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Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 02:31 PM (2ocoG)
I have a lot of respect for your opinions and info, so no shade here.
I think you understood what I was saying is that if you're a rich pedo, do you go to the pedo ring or do you go to the guy who can get you "anything"...?
I have a lot of respect for your opinions and info, so no shade here.
I think you understood what I was saying is that if you're a rich pedo, do you go to the pedo ring or do you go to the guy who can get you "anything"...?
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 02:37 PM (rJIHE)
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Sadly that is all gone now that china owns the islands.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (cpFbA)
Still think Covid was a CCP operation to shut down the Hong Kong protests. They went away almost immediately after Covid identified and have not returned.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (cpFbA)
Still think Covid was a CCP operation to shut down the Hong Kong protests. They went away almost immediately after Covid identified and have not returned.
Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2026 02:37 PM (KC5Lt)
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I saw a clip from a 1967 American Bandstand. They counted down to the #1 song, which was "The Happening" by the Supremes. A completely undanceable tune, but the "teen dancers" on the show made a valiant effort.
Posted by: They Failed at August 17, 2026 02:37 PM (JM9I6)
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I saw a list of names that was billed as from the Epstein passenger manifest. If factual it would be quite the scandal indeed
Posted by: what the cat drug in at August 17, 2026 02:37 PM (jrgJz)
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Yes and no. Half of why Democrats are still bringing up Epstein is the idea that he's a Mossad agent sent to get your children
One of the more amusing parts of this is if you look at the pols, celebs, and academics tied to Epstein you don't see them being particularly pro-Israel after getting favors from Epstein.
This is part of the reason I think he was directly working with British Intel, because you DO seem taking a European line...
Oh and in his private emails Epstein bitches about Israel and Trump...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (sKqQm)
that's because he was blackmailing them for favors back.
One of the more amusing parts of this is if you look at the pols, celebs, and academics tied to Epstein you don't see them being particularly pro-Israel after getting favors from Epstein.
This is part of the reason I think he was directly working with British Intel, because you DO seem taking a European line...
Oh and in his private emails Epstein bitches about Israel and Trump...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:35 PM (sKqQm)
that's because he was blackmailing them for favors back.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2026 02:38 PM (uhVAy)
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All this discusion about Epstien is just a distraction from the Epstien Files.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA. Adnan Kashogi and G. Maxwell's "dead" dad were all connected to him. I think this is the reason Epstien was eventually "sold" Little St. James. To keep people off it. This is Iran Iraq war/iran contra era. Some really weird yaht sales come up in that era. Trump bought one of them and immediately had it rebuilt. Trump Princess.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA. Adnan Kashogi and G. Maxwell's "dead" dad were all connected to him. I think this is the reason Epstien was eventually "sold" Little St. James. To keep people off it. This is Iran Iraq war/iran contra era. Some really weird yaht sales come up in that era. Trump bought one of them and immediately had it rebuilt. Trump Princess.
Posted by: Reforger at August 17, 2026 02:38 PM (7ADiS)
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> suppose if we were talking about that, you might even have a point.
I don't know what you're talking about, but the rest of us are talking about the news articles, which say
"sexual abuse" or "sexual assault".
Not rape.
So yeah, I DO have a point.
Jayzus.
I don't know what you're talking about, but the rest of us are talking about the news articles, which say
"sexual abuse" or "sexual assault".
Not rape.
So yeah, I DO have a point.
Jayzus.
Posted by: The Tall Skinny State at August 17, 2026 02:39 PM (IG3/x)
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The academic I am mentioning is David Gelernter from Yale
He lost the teaching part of his gig after Trump released the Epstein files, and IIRC the left was big mad about the attack on "academic freedom" when that happened.
He lost the teaching part of his gig after Trump released the Epstein files, and IIRC the left was big mad about the attack on "academic freedom" when that happened.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:39 PM (sKqQm)
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But Hugh Hefner hated women. All the feminists told me so.
Posted by: Right? at August 17, 2026 02:41 PM (dKrJA)
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>>All this discusion about Epstien is just a distraction from the Epstien Files.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA
Touches nose, points at you.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA
Touches nose, points at you.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:43 PM (viF8m)
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My pet hypothais is that Jeff Epstein was on the Deep State payroll and his island was a honeypot to gain leverage over politicians and wealthy oligarchs.
This story and the persistent lack of prosecutions supports my hypothesis.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 01:39 PM (E/O6y)
Well duh. That's what is behind every political transaction ever. Whose deep state is a better question.
This story and the persistent lack of prosecutions supports my hypothesis.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 17, 2026 01:39 PM (E/O6y)
Well duh. That's what is behind every political transaction ever. Whose deep state is a better question.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2026 02:44 PM (uhVAy)
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>>All this discusion about Epstien is just a distraction from the Epstien Files.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA
Touches nose, points at you.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:43 PM (viF8m)
We were running guns to Prince Andrew? Gun runners are a dime a dozen.
I think the reason Epstien was protected in the first place was he was a gun runner for the CeyeA
Touches nose, points at you.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:43 PM (viF8m)
We were running guns to Prince Andrew? Gun runners are a dime a dozen.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2026 02:45 PM (uhVAy)
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Playboy Magazine gave me an understanding of women and society that has proven to be insightful
The ones complaining are the fat nasty that nobody wants to fuck anyway
Everybody else is getting laid and not bitching that others are
The ones complaining are the fat nasty that nobody wants to fuck anyway
Everybody else is getting laid and not bitching that others are
Posted by: what the cat drug in at August 17, 2026 02:46 PM (jrgJz)
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>>We were running guns to Prince Andrew? Gun runners are a dime a dozen.
So are sex traffickers.
Not that many gun runners work for the CIA. Which Epstein did.
Why do you think he never got prosecuted despite literally everyone knowing exactly what he was doing with young girls?
So are sex traffickers.
Not that many gun runners work for the CIA. Which Epstein did.
Why do you think he never got prosecuted despite literally everyone knowing exactly what he was doing with young girls?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2026 02:52 PM (viF8m)
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Why does Grande look more asian now?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
Dating an Asian guy? Becoming Asian by injection?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
Dating an Asian guy? Becoming Asian by injection?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 17, 2026 02:55 PM (hmYU4)
Posted by: The FIB at August 17, 2026 02:56 PM (Fi81e)
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Hefner believed in promiscuous free love, but only with the consent of all parties. He never condoned rape or child abuse.
Posted by: RebeccaH at August 17, 2026 02:57 PM (VFung)
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Why does Grande look more asian now?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
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She's turning Japanese, I really think so.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)
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She's turning Japanese, I really think so.
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