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Tyler Robinson's Defense Team: Yes, Our Client Shot and Killed Charlie Kirk, But "The Shooter Hit the Intended Target," So No One Else Was In Danger and So the Death Penalty Should Be Off the Table
To get the death penalty, there must be an enhancement to "mere" murder. I would think that premeditated murder is enhancement enough, but in Utah, mistakenly regarded as a red state, you need to murder someone in a bad way.
Those "bad ways" of committing murder include putting additional people in danger or killing someone for a political motive. Robinson's team concedes that he murdered Charlie Kirk -- I mean, he admitted it eleven times in texts and verbal admission to his parents. But they say his shot was well-aimed and did not put anyone else in danger, so he should not be executed for his murder.NBC "News:"
Lawyers for the man charged with killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk say he shouldn't be eligible for the death penalty because the shooter "hit the intended target" during the assassination last year at a Utah event attended by thousands of people. Defendant Tyler Robinson's attorneys say prosecutors have not proven that others who attended Kirk's event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10 were endangered by the shooting -- a potentially aggravating factor under state law that would make it a capital crime. ... Utah law states that if a defendant "knowingly created a great risk of death to another individual" other than the victim who was killed, it can be used as an aggravating factor. But Robinson's defense team notes that the state needs to show there was a "high probability" that Robinson put the thousands of people gathered at the Turning Point USA rally where Kirk was speaking at risk for death, and not just a "possibility" of that happening. "The state has failed to show that the actual conduct created a 'high probability' that someone other than Mr. Kirk would be killed and, thus, this theory fails as a matter of law," according to their briefing. "Where no other person was injured in a manner creating a great risk of death, and no other shots were fired, the allegation of ... (an) aggravator cannot be sustained." Defense attorneys contend there was no one else in the "line of fire" when the fatal shot was fired. Furthermore, "the firing of a single shot at an intended victim that hit only the intended victim" is not an aggravating factor "merely because other people were in the vicinity."... "The bullet that struck and killed Mr. Kirk was not fired in an enclosed bedroom or space but rather, an open-air arena with what the state's witnesses termed, 'a clear line of sight.' There were no threats to others in the course of conduct. There was no one 'directly' next to Mr. Kirk when he was shot, and there was no one under the tent on the side that Mr. Kirk was struck or behind him in the breezeway. Multiple shots were not fired. There were no ricocheting bullets."They also claim there is no evidence that Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk for political reasons... despite Robinson marking his bullets with slogans indicating this was a Trans Vengeance Execution. Now, it may occur to you that this is rather bad news for the world's stupidest narcissist Candace Owens. But if you believe that, then you have kept admirably clean of information about Candace Owens. This retard says the defense's admission that Robinson murdered her "best friend" Charlie Kirk hardly puts a scratch in her Grand Theory That Erika Kirk, French Intelligence, Egyptian Planes, Mormon Bee-People and of course The Jews Killed Charlie Kirk.
Candace OwensAs the announcer said of one of the candidates for Twit of the Year: "He doesn't know the meaning of 'losing.' He doesn't know the meaning of 'winning,' either, he has no sensory apparatus of any kind..."
@RealCandaceO
Ugh... I've barely had my coffee and I can already tell that the "overwhelming evidence" crowd is lying about the recent case filings in the hope that no one will actually read them or understand them. How are they not tired of running the exact same strategy and losing every time? "Pay a bunch of influencers to make emotive claims, and hope people don't actually read through the filings" It is exactly as they did with the ATF report and every other element of this case. Lie quickly, repeatedly, and hope no one will take notice. I will report on what's actually in the filings later today.
Blake Neff
@BlakeSNeff
Candace is having her latest blowup because the defense's new 41-page filing in the Tyler Robinson case uses exactly none of the wild claims she's spent the last 11 months pushing. Rather than make the case that Robinson is not guilty, the filing focuses almost exclusively on trying to spare him from the death penalty. -The filing spends only one page contesting the actual murder evidence, by arguing that Lance Twiggs's testimony was improper hearsay. ALL the rest of the filing concerns aggravating factors or secondary charges. -The filing admits that Charlie was killed by a rifle shot from the Losee Center -- it explicitly describes the person captured on camera on the Losee rooftop as "the shooter." There is absolutely no effort to talk about exploding microphones, either directly or indirectly by contesting the idea Charlie was killed by a rifle round. -The filing never argues that Robinson was not at UVU -- in fact, on page 22, it says "the evidence shows Mr. Robinson walking up and down stairs at UVU" and calls it a "reasonable inference" that his impaired gait was caused by a "fully-assembled rifle." -The filing admits that Robinson was texting with Lance Twiggs, telling him "Im gonna turn myself in willingly." When Lance asks if there's any way he avoid prison, he replies "I highly doubt it." Professional lawyers, unlike dishonest podcasters, have ethical obligations that bar them from saying things they know are untrue. So, unsurprisingly, their defense bears absolutely no resemblance to the one Candace has spent months shilling to her audience.
Candace is having her latest blowup because the defense's new 41-page filing in the Tyler Robinson case uses exactly none of the wild claims she's spent the last 11 months pushing. Rather than make the case that Robinson is not guilty, the filing focuses almost exclusively on… https://t.co/BPQwsNL85Q pic.twitter.com/JQlXvUtpd5
— Blake Neff (@BlakeSNeff) August 12, 2026
— Tomasito (@NomiCraft) August 12, 2026
Please offer your debate prep expertise to Andrew Wilson.
— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) August 12, 2026
I am totally panicking about this filing and so scared he might bring it up. 😱
Andrew Wilson says Joe Rogan offered to host and moderate the debate. Candace refused anything outside her own home. Rogan then offered to come to her, and she still refused.
— Natalie Jean Beisner (@NJBeisner) August 12, 2026
Candace is a maniacal control freak and a liar. She said today that Tim Pool was one of only two… pic.twitter.com/DJjiiiAvf4
Have you ever watched Cavernous Nostrils trying to pronounce simple words? It's always an adventure.
Candace Owens MISPRONOUNCING 40 words straight. pic.twitter.com/5KQi8OGgfC
— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) August 12, 2026
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Sponge
Posted by: Bete at August 12, 2026 05:42 PM (LX4y3)
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Yeah, sponge, whatevs.
Yeah, sponge, whatevs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 12, 2026 05:43 PM (XJ22o)
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None of this matches my proof, so it's bullshhhhhit. The defense are all Israeli agents.
-Candice Owns.
-Candice Owns.
Posted by: Bete at August 12, 2026 05:43 PM (LX4y3)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 12, 2026 05:44 PM (XJ22o)
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"You're not allowed to execute my client because he has such good aim" is quite the novel defense.
It's probably not going to go over to well in southern Utah but I give them an A for creativity.
It's probably not going to go over to well in southern Utah but I give them an A for creativity.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:45 PM (6ydKt)
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Professional lawyers, unlike dishonest podcasters, have ethical obligations that bar them from saying things they know are untrue. So, unsurprisingly, their defense bears absolutely no resemblance to the one Candace has spent months shilling to her audience.
Damn...getting called out for having lower ethical standards than lawyers is brutal.
Damn...getting called out for having lower ethical standards than lawyers is brutal.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:45 PM (+/CWD)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (qFwJc)
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The stupidity of the showcased persons in this post is oozing out of my device Ace, and burning the finish off my table.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (sTlXt)
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"Pay a bunch of influencers to make emotive claims, and hope people don't actually read through the filings"
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I think I like this the most.
Because she thinks she's describing others, not herself.
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I think I like this the most.
Because she thinks she's describing others, not herself.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (3cUTc)
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"Yes, my client killed this person and he meant to kill this person, and you can tell because the only person he shot was the one he meant to kill"
Utah is wild, man.
Utah is wild, man.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (vJrRc)
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Damn, that’s some serious ghetto going on
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 05:49 PM (8jVAy)
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"You're not allowed to execute my client because he has such good aim" is quite the novel defense.
It's probably not going to go over to well in southern Utah but I give them an A for creativity.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:45 PM (6ydKt)
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Insert obligatory, "That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out for them."
It's probably not going to go over to well in southern Utah but I give them an A for creativity.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:45 PM (6ydKt)
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Insert obligatory, "That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out for them."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 12, 2026 05:49 PM (FZ29D)
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‘ To get the death penalty, there must be an enhancement to "mere" murder. I would think that premeditated murder is enhancement enough, but in Utah, mistakenly regarded as a red state, you need to murder someone in a bad way.’
This is standard in almost all states, even the reddest of the red. Texas? Yup, death penalty isn’t on the table in the Lone Star unless the murder includes certain ‘aggravating factors.’
This is standard in almost all states, even the reddest of the red. Texas? Yup, death penalty isn’t on the table in the Lone Star unless the murder includes certain ‘aggravating factors.’
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 05:49 PM (yTXpW)
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Professional lawyers, unlike dishonest podcasters, have ethical obligations that bar them from saying things they know are untrue.
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Quibble:
technically, it's a prohibition against a filing saying things that are false.
And even that is open to what the meaning of "is" is.
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Quibble:
technically, it's a prohibition against a filing saying things that are false.
And even that is open to what the meaning of "is" is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (3cUTc)
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It's so thoroughly disgusting that instead of Kirk's murder uniting the Right, somehow it deeply divided us all over some stupid washed personality that wanted to make a name for herself.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (r13UX)
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I retract my ill-considered reprobations of the site previously.
When crazy is all that is, that's all there is to cover.
I retract my ill-considered reprobations of the site previously.
When crazy is all that is, that's all there is to cover.
Posted by: Auspex at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (Y8DZL)
Posted by: No Name Today at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (8mulE)
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Robinson Admits to Murdering Kirk, Owens Hardest Hit
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (gEIsK)
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I am wholly uninterested in any news about Owens that doesn't start and end with "indicted" and/or "committed".
As for Utah's law, that's a bold take. As I read it, assassinations of private citizens should be fine. If you miss and brain some other bystander, that's an accident and you also didn't murder the target. If you don't miss, yeah it sucks you killed that one guy you naughty naughty boy, go into timeout, in the penalty box where you feel shame, you know.
But if you kill someone important like a pro-amnesty GOP guy, that might cause chaos, so it's death for you.
As for Utah's law, that's a bold take. As I read it, assassinations of private citizens should be fine. If you miss and brain some other bystander, that's an accident and you also didn't murder the target. If you don't miss, yeah it sucks you killed that one guy you naughty naughty boy, go into timeout, in the penalty box where you feel shame, you know.
But if you kill someone important like a pro-amnesty GOP guy, that might cause chaos, so it's death for you.
Posted by: 88C+u at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (88C+u)
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Surely political murder counts as an enhancement.
Posted by: toby928(c) at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (+v9Nq)
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Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Ugh… I’ve barely had my coffee and I can already tell that the “overwhelming evidence” crowd is lying about the recent case filings in the hope that no one will actually read them or understand them.
The faux dismissive arrogance combined with pre-emptive accusations that her opponents are always lying is her standard operating procedure.
It's also kinda like what professional wrestlers do to work the crowd, which is what Candace reminds me of these days.
A character, acting out a part, saying anything she has to to get by one more week and bring in the clicks and cash before her audience gets bored and moves on the next big thing.
The faux dismissive arrogance combined with pre-emptive accusations that her opponents are always lying is her standard operating procedure.
It's also kinda like what professional wrestlers do to work the crowd, which is what Candace reminds me of these days.
A character, acting out a part, saying anything she has to to get by one more week and bring in the clicks and cash before her audience gets bored and moves on the next big thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (6ydKt)
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Damn...getting called out for having lower ethical standards than lawyers is brutal.
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And how do you think we feel?
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And how do you think we feel?
Posted by: Car Salesmen Everywhere at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (TN0g+)
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Leaving her mispronunciations aside, her voice is quite annoying. I envision being stuck on a long car ride with her prattling on, and jumping out of the car as it slows for a stop light.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (sTlXt)
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I try not to acknowledge Owens existence, but I'm convinced that one of her lunatic followers is going to attack her when the followers deranged mind suddenly realizes that he or she has been lied to repeatedly by Owens
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (WOnE5)
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10 "Yes, my client killed this person and he meant to kill this person, and you can tell because the only person he shot was the one he meant to kill"
Utah is wild, man.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
His lawyers are trying to spare his life, they have no reason, unlike Candace who is making money from the lies, to spout off bullshit in court that is likely to end up with them losing and possibly being disbarred.
So you make an argument within the confines of the law (this was probably designed for crimes of passion where one person was targeted) that no other person was likely at risk.
Candace likely wanted the defense to have bullshit artists like Robert Barnes or Mike Avenatti that make bold exaggerations in the media that they cannot back up in court.
Tyler, if he wants to live, probably wants the lawyers that might spare his miserable life.
Utah is wild, man.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
His lawyers are trying to spare his life, they have no reason, unlike Candace who is making money from the lies, to spout off bullshit in court that is likely to end up with them losing and possibly being disbarred.
So you make an argument within the confines of the law (this was probably designed for crimes of passion where one person was targeted) that no other person was likely at risk.
Candace likely wanted the defense to have bullshit artists like Robert Barnes or Mike Avenatti that make bold exaggerations in the media that they cannot back up in court.
Tyler, if he wants to live, probably wants the lawyers that might spare his miserable life.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:53 PM (E4rtv)
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Sponge!!!
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 05:53 PM (24NQL)
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15 It's so thoroughly disgusting that instead of Kirk's murder uniting the Right, somehow it deeply divided us all over some stupid washed personality that wanted to make a name for herself.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05
I wasn’t united with Candace to start. That girl is coocoocadoo.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05
I wasn’t united with Candace to start. That girl is coocoocadoo.
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (ZdaMQ)
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It's so thoroughly disgusting that instead of Kirk's murder uniting the Right, somehow it deeply divided us all over some stupid washed personality that wanted to make a name for herself.
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Candace Ovens isn't part of "the Right" and we're not "divided".
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Candace Ovens isn't part of "the Right" and we're not "divided".
Posted by: Crusader at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (TN0g+)
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25 I try not to acknowledge Owens existence, but I'm convinced that one of her lunatic followers is going to attack her when the followers deranged mind suddenly realizes that he or she has been lied to repeatedly by Owens
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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I want her and her poofter crash test dummy husband along with the deranged Milo to all depart for UK asap. They are stinking up Tennessee just from being there.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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I want her and her poofter crash test dummy husband along with the deranged Milo to all depart for UK asap. They are stinking up Tennessee just from being there.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (E4rtv)
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If the debate with Andrew Wilson actually happens (big If), I expect Candygram to plead the Fifth (not answer) more times than Fauci.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Q89nA)
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21 Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (ZdaMQ)
She was thinking of shallots because who doesn't love tiny onions?
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 05:52 PM (ZdaMQ)
She was thinking of shallots because who doesn't love tiny onions?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (6ydKt)
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So being a poor shot would be an enhancing factor?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 12, 2026 05:54 PM (XvL8K)
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It's so thoroughly disgusting that instead of Kirk's murder uniting the Right, somehow it deeply divided us all over some stupid washed personality that wanted to make a name for herself.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (r13UX)
Nobody this has 'shaken out' was ever on the right.
A gay, furry freak has confessed to basically everyone that yes he did it, the shooting is on video, even his parents turning him in, all sorts of other evidence, etc. But really it was Mossad!
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (r13UX)
Nobody this has 'shaken out' was ever on the right.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 05:55 PM (uhVAy)
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What kind of defense is "his shot was well-aimed" ??
Posted by: you really don't want to know at August 12, 2026 05:55 PM (AGz65)
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>>>technically, it's a prohibition against a filing saying things that are false.
The standard is knowingly false. That's why "honest" defense attorneys are careful to tell their clients to STFU. That gives the lawyer the room to speculate freely.
The standard is knowingly false. That's why "honest" defense attorneys are careful to tell their clients to STFU. That gives the lawyer the room to speculate freely.
Posted by: No Name Today at August 12, 2026 05:55 PM (8mulE)
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Does being wrong; being an idiot; being a shill; being shrill make Candy less entertaining? Of course not - it enhances the entertainment.
Posted by: Handcuffed to the Bumper of a State Trooper's Ford at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (DDWHE)
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I've seen some folks guestimate how much it is that Candy Nose pulls in from one of her shows.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--ragebaiting is profitable.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--ragebaiting is profitable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (3cUTc)
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It's also kinda like what professional wrestlers do to work the crowd, which is what Candace reminds me of these days.
A character, acting out a part, saying anything she has to to get by one more week and bring in the clicks and cash before her audience gets bored and moves on the next big thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
She got paid for lying at an early age and so learned it can be profitable for a psychotic bitch that has no truth in her. So she goes to the inversion of who is lying every time when challenged while her tall tales keep getting taller. Too bad it isn't her nose like Pinocchio.
A character, acting out a part, saying anything she has to to get by one more week and bring in the clicks and cash before her audience gets bored and moves on the next big thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
She got paid for lying at an early age and so learned it can be profitable for a psychotic bitch that has no truth in her. So she goes to the inversion of who is lying every time when challenged while her tall tales keep getting taller. Too bad it isn't her nose like Pinocchio.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (f0sNM)
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Yes, my client was accurate in killing the target he was aiming at so he should not get the death penalty because he was accurate with his rifle in committing cold blooded murder.
Sounds like a Monty Python sketch.
Sounds like a Monty Python sketch.
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (Oy/m2)
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...if a defendant "knowingly created a great risk of death to another individual" other than the victim who was killed, it can be used as an aggravating factor...
It...kind of makes sense, I guess. There's a reason we have things like manslaughter, second degree murder, 1st degree, etc. Spraying bullets into a crowd, or using a large explosive device, to kill one specific person, even if you only hit the intended target, is worse than killing them when they're alone and no one else is at risk.
Charlie, as I recall, had people all around him, though, and the bullet was a powerful rifle cartridge that could reasonably be expected to pass through the target, with a changed trajectory, and ricochet off the ground. Is that enough threat to innocent bystanders to meet the threshold? It's a good legal question.
It...kind of makes sense, I guess. There's a reason we have things like manslaughter, second degree murder, 1st degree, etc. Spraying bullets into a crowd, or using a large explosive device, to kill one specific person, even if you only hit the intended target, is worse than killing them when they're alone and no one else is at risk.
Charlie, as I recall, had people all around him, though, and the bullet was a powerful rifle cartridge that could reasonably be expected to pass through the target, with a changed trajectory, and ricochet off the ground. Is that enough threat to innocent bystanders to meet the threshold? It's a good legal question.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (+/CWD)
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Guess some Leftist Judge will make up their own law's eventually
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (Ia/+0)
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I am wholly uninterested in any news about Owens that doesn't start and end with "indicted" and/or "committed".
As for Utah's law, that's a bold take. As I read it, assassinations of private citizens should be fine. If you miss and brain some other bystander, that's an accident and you also didn't murder the target. If you don't miss, yeah it sucks you killed that one guy you naughty naughty boy, go into timeout, in the penalty box where you feel shame, you know.
But if you kill someone important like a pro-amnesty GOP guy, that might cause chaos, so it's death for you.
Posted by: 88C+u at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (88C+u)
there was the joke in the Steve Martin movie The Jerk that when he is crowing about getting in the phone book it cuts to an assassin picking his name at random out of the phone book and coming to kill the "Random SOB".
So by Utah law this would not merit the death penalty?
As for Utah's law, that's a bold take. As I read it, assassinations of private citizens should be fine. If you miss and brain some other bystander, that's an accident and you also didn't murder the target. If you don't miss, yeah it sucks you killed that one guy you naughty naughty boy, go into timeout, in the penalty box where you feel shame, you know.
But if you kill someone important like a pro-amnesty GOP guy, that might cause chaos, so it's death for you.
Posted by: 88C+u at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (88C+u)
there was the joke in the Steve Martin movie The Jerk that when he is crowing about getting in the phone book it cuts to an assassin picking his name at random out of the phone book and coming to kill the "Random SOB".
So by Utah law this would not merit the death penalty?
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (uhVAy)
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It’s grift, like MeAgain. Whatever pays.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (sTlXt)
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38 I've seen some folks guestimate how much it is that Candy Nose pulls in from one of her shows.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (3cUTc)
Well yeah, it'd probably be a Category Four in her case.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (3cUTc)
Well yeah, it'd probably be a Category Four in her case.
Posted by: good bye, Seattle! at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (88C+u)
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I want this twink in general population.
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (YwEeS)
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Too bad it isn't her nose like Pinocchio.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (E4rtv)
She can't back down now.
What is left of her reputation is on the line after the Brigitte Macron disaster.
She'll stick to her story until her dying day.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (E4rtv)
She can't back down now.
What is left of her reputation is on the line after the Brigitte Macron disaster.
She'll stick to her story until her dying day.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (6ydKt)
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Tyler, if he wants to live, probably wants the lawyers that might spare his miserable life.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:53 PM (E4rtv)
I can't imagine wanting to spend the rest of my life in jail, but I guess there is always the chance a leftist on the jury decides they are going for nullification.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 05:53 PM (E4rtv)
I can't imagine wanting to spend the rest of my life in jail, but I guess there is always the chance a leftist on the jury decides they are going for nullification.
Posted by: Bete at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (LX4y3)
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I thought lying in wait and stalking were special circumstances. Likewise political assassination, which this clearly was.
I thought lying in wait and stalking were special circumstances. Likewise political assassination, which this clearly was.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (azNOR)
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Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA)
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Facts are mere impediments to the theory -- The Grand Unified Theory of Everything, which posits that "It's the Jews' fault" explains all physical phenomena.
Posted by: zombie at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Av6i5)
53
Charlie, as I recall, had people all around him, though, and the bullet was a powerful rifle cartridge that could reasonably be expected to pass through the target, with a changed trajectory, and ricochet off the ground. Is that enough threat to innocent bystanders to meet the threshold? It's a good legal question.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (+/CWD)
No real point, it was obviously political because to a leftist everything is.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (+/CWD)
No real point, it was obviously political because to a leftist everything is.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (uhVAy)
54
If the debate with Andrew Wilson actually happens (big If), I expect Candygram to plead the Fifth (not answer) more times than Fauci.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Conspiracy wackos do not plead the fifth. They just launch into more conspiracies. "Mossad paid Andrew!!! They're aiming energy weapons at me right now~!"
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Conspiracy wackos do not plead the fifth. They just launch into more conspiracies. "Mossad paid Andrew!!! They're aiming energy weapons at me right now~!"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (diia5)
55
The sad part?
This will change exactly none of CandyAss Ovens rapid delusional followers. If anything, the reverse will be true. She will double and triple and quadruple and double-dodecahedron down.
Don’t you fools know that the best evidence of a vast conspiracy is the total absence of any evidence of the conspiracy?
Over-under for how long it takes for Ovens to claim this creep’s own lawyers are Mossad agents? Not joking.
This will change exactly none of CandyAss Ovens rapid delusional followers. If anything, the reverse will be true. She will double and triple and quadruple and double-dodecahedron down.
Don’t you fools know that the best evidence of a vast conspiracy is the total absence of any evidence of the conspiracy?
Over-under for how long it takes for Ovens to claim this creep’s own lawyers are Mossad agents? Not joking.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (yTXpW)
56
I'm sure the Left just loves this.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (r13UX)
Nobody this has 'shaken out' was ever on the right.
Posted by: Oldcat
But darn if "sharpie" isn't going to continue to try to convince us that it's true.
Posted by: Sharpie at August 12, 2026 05:50 PM (r13UX)
Nobody this has 'shaken out' was ever on the right.
Posted by: Oldcat
But darn if "sharpie" isn't going to continue to try to convince us that it's true.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (vJrRc)
57
18 Robinson Admits to Murdering Kirk, Owens Hardest Hit
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (gEIsK)
Ricochet ?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (gEIsK)
Ricochet ?
Posted by: you really don't want to know at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (AGz65)
58
How the Fk did they come up with that convoluted theory?
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Ia/+0)
59
Note I only say that because I expect him to never be executed.
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (YwEeS)
60
51 Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA
I only got to grandiose. But I have heard the macabre one before and…yikes.
Her husband called her a grifter’s grifter, so there is that.
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA
I only got to grandiose. But I have heard the macabre one before and…yikes.
Her husband called her a grifter’s grifter, so there is that.
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (ZdaMQ)
61
38 I've seen some folks guestimate how much it is that Candy Nose pulls in from one of her shows.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--ragebaiting is profitable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
It is all fun and games until the libel and slander lawsuits roll in and this case is pretty much going to make it an open and shut case for Candace to be held liable by Charlie's widow. Then I think the floodgates are going to open and she flees the country to avoid paying judgment. No one wanted to sue a nasty pig wallowing in the mud because a) the pig likes it, and b) there is a real threat that Ovens will cause one or more of her demented flying monkeys to cause harm and harassment to the person suing her.
Like Alex Jones, it is all fun and games until the jury verdict rolls in and the judge enforces the inevitable judgment.
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--ragebaiting is profitable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
It is all fun and games until the libel and slander lawsuits roll in and this case is pretty much going to make it an open and shut case for Candace to be held liable by Charlie's widow. Then I think the floodgates are going to open and she flees the country to avoid paying judgment. No one wanted to sue a nasty pig wallowing in the mud because a) the pig likes it, and b) there is a real threat that Ovens will cause one or more of her demented flying monkeys to cause harm and harassment to the person suing her.
Like Alex Jones, it is all fun and games until the jury verdict rolls in and the judge enforces the inevitable judgment.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (E4rtv)
62
Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA)
I think in England they pronounce it to rhyme with pallet.
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA)
I think in England they pronounce it to rhyme with pallet.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (uhVAy)
63
Lemme axe you this !
Lemme axe you this !
Posted by: Canyon Owens at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (RIvkX)
65
58 How the Fk did they come up with that convoluted theory?
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Ia/+0)
Lawyerbabble, a version of bullshit dazzling.
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Ia/+0)
Lawyerbabble, a version of bullshit dazzling.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:00 PM (sTlXt)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (w6EFb)
67
51 Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Don't we celebrate Hannukah because the Macabres re-dedicated The Temple?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Don't we celebrate Hannukah because the Macabres re-dedicated The Temple?
Posted by: zombie at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (Av6i5)
68
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA)
I used to pronounce it Mack A Bree as a joke
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 05:58 PM (Q89nA)
I used to pronounce it Mack A Bree as a joke
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (uhVAy)
69
Now look, retards, they said the shooter. They didn't say Tyler Robinson. Could have been anyone. How many times do I have to explain it?
Posted by: Candy-O at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (QaH55)
70
Lawyers often make arguments that sound good in court and sound ridiculous in public. I'm sure there is some court decision in Utah that hinges on this question cited in their brief. They are being paid by the state, and they are going to bill millions.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (wGerL)
71
It ain't nothing to sneeze at--ragebaiting is profitable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (3cUTc)
___
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?"
- Matthew 16:26 (LSB)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 12, 2026 05:56 PM (3cUTc)
___
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?"
- Matthew 16:26 (LSB)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (24NQL)
72
The right: The left is dangerous. Look one of their tranny chasers just admitted to murdering the top right wing speaker in the country
The left: Nah man that's what THE JEWS want you to think. It was really them! Like they planned this for years with their undercover agent Erika Kirk.
The left: Nah man that's what THE JEWS want you to think. It was really them! Like they planned this for years with their undercover agent Erika Kirk.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (sKqQm)
73
... but in Utah, mistakenly regarded as a red state, you need to murder someone in a bad way.
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You mean, like, kill them twice?
[One verse from the great Michael Piranha parody 3"Hotel Honolulu:"]
"Mirrors on the table
Gang-bangers on ice
To end up in prison here
You'd have to kill someone twice
So tell the crooks on the mainland
Living here is so great
'Cuz no one has more lenient laws
Than the 50th state"
archives.starbulletin.com
/1998/06/08/features/story1.html
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You mean, like, kill them twice?
[One verse from the great Michael Piranha parody 3"Hotel Honolulu:"]
"Mirrors on the table
Gang-bangers on ice
To end up in prison here
You'd have to kill someone twice
So tell the crooks on the mainland
Living here is so great
'Cuz no one has more lenient laws
Than the 50th state"
archives.starbulletin.com
/1998/06/08/features/story1.html
Posted by: ShainS at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (toNFd)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Auspex at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (Y8DZL)
76
55 The sad part?
This will change exactly none of CandyAss Ovens rapid delusional followers. If anything, the reverse will be true. She will double and triple and quadruple and double-dodecahedron down.
Don’t you fools know that the best evidence of a vast conspiracy is the total absence of any evidence of the conspiracy?
Over-under for how long it takes for Ovens to claim this creep’s own lawyers are Mossad agents? Not joking.
Posted by: Elric the Blade
Short run perhaps, long run these types always burn out their followers. Happened with Aimee Semple way back in the day and plenty others over time. The lies build up, the believability goes down, the legal process begins chewing up the liar, and eventually the liar is left nakedly exposed to the public stage. Then after the dogs have barked, the caravan moves on.
This will change exactly none of CandyAss Ovens rapid delusional followers. If anything, the reverse will be true. She will double and triple and quadruple and double-dodecahedron down.
Don’t you fools know that the best evidence of a vast conspiracy is the total absence of any evidence of the conspiracy?
Over-under for how long it takes for Ovens to claim this creep’s own lawyers are Mossad agents? Not joking.
Posted by: Elric the Blade
Short run perhaps, long run these types always burn out their followers. Happened with Aimee Semple way back in the day and plenty others over time. The lies build up, the believability goes down, the legal process begins chewing up the liar, and eventually the liar is left nakedly exposed to the public stage. Then after the dogs have barked, the caravan moves on.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (E4rtv)
77
66 >> I think in England they pronounce it to rhyme with pallet.
Same with "valet".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
I always make the valett wait in the foyerr.
Same with "valet".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
I always make the valett wait in the foyerr.
Posted by: zombie at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (Av6i5)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (wGerL)
79
Charlie, as I recall, had people all around him, though, and the bullet was a powerful rifle cartridge that could reasonably be expected to pass through the target, with a changed trajectory, and ricochet off the ground. Is that enough threat to innocent bystanders to meet the threshold? It's a good legal question.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (+/CWD)
Hunting rounds are designed to not over penetrate, but they are also considered a cruel and unneeded bullet for people as they fragment and cause much greater harm than a full-jacketed round.
Just quoting the Breaker's monologue in Breaker Morant on "Dum-Dum bullets" could make one of the jury members go green.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 12, 2026 05:57 PM (+/CWD)
Hunting rounds are designed to not over penetrate, but they are also considered a cruel and unneeded bullet for people as they fragment and cause much greater harm than a full-jacketed round.
Just quoting the Breaker's monologue in Breaker Morant on "Dum-Dum bullets" could make one of the jury members go green.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (rbvCR)
80
The English have never been able to speak proper American.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sTlXt)
81
Candace Owens is worth $2M with her insane ranting, which is bad, but Kim Kardashian is worth $2B primarily based off of a sex tape and having a big ass.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sKqQm)
82
Bonk bonk on the head
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (nDXEV)
83
Didn't the Secret Service have Airforce One land inside one of Candace Owens nostrils to escape an Iranian rocket attack?
The woman is a hero! A hero, I say!
Didn't the Secret Service have Airforce One land inside one of Candace Owens nostrils to escape an Iranian rocket attack?
The woman is a hero! A hero, I say!
Posted by: naturalfake at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (iJfKG)
84
Didn't some guy named Comperatore take a bullet?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (qFwJc)
85
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?"
- Matthew 16:26 (LSB)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (24NQL)
depends what you think your soul is worth I suppose.
- Matthew 16:26 (LSB)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:02 PM (24NQL)
depends what you think your soul is worth I suppose.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (uhVAy)
86
"or killing someone for a political motive."
So, did that get swept under the rug?
Posted by: no one of any consequence
It was ideological, but not political, man.
So, did that get swept under the rug?
Posted by: no one of any consequence
It was ideological, but not political, man.
Posted by: mikeski, hitting the bong at August 12, 2026 06:06 PM (VHUov)
87
The Utah prosecutors have at least 3 aggravated theories to justify the death penalty. First is the one that Ace is mentioning: putting others in danger. The whole "He was a good shot and killed who he was aiming at, no one else so no death penalty!" is a novel defense idea.
The second one the prosecutors have is something about endangering kids or making them watch it or something. Lots of kids in the audience watched Charlie die. The defense argues that "Well, it was a college campus! How could Robinson know kids might be there?"
The third one is the political/trans angle: Robinson killed Kirk because of his political views. Defense argues that there is not enough evidence of that one so Robinson shouldn't be put to death for that.
All of these are weak defense theories, but they have to argue something I guess. But no, the prosecution has more than one arrow in their quivers here.
The second one the prosecutors have is something about endangering kids or making them watch it or something. Lots of kids in the audience watched Charlie die. The defense argues that "Well, it was a college campus! How could Robinson know kids might be there?"
The third one is the political/trans angle: Robinson killed Kirk because of his political views. Defense argues that there is not enough evidence of that one so Robinson shouldn't be put to death for that.
All of these are weak defense theories, but they have to argue something I guess. But no, the prosecution has more than one arrow in their quivers here.
Posted by: SimoHayha at August 12, 2026 06:06 PM (IeYnM)
88
73 ... but in Utah, mistakenly regarded as a red state, you need to murder someone in a bad way.
Don't blame Utah for this, it was a Scotus ruling that restored the Death Penalty, Gregg v. Georgia, where they only allowed death penalty statutes on the basis that the penalty had to be imposed only if specific aggravating circumstances showing the murder was somehow worse than regular murders including murder for money, murder for politics, for sexual depravity, drug dealing, etc. etc. around the murder occurred.
The jury (some states used judges before Ring v. Arizona required only a jury to impose a death sentence) was to take into account ALL aggravating facts and mitigating facts (which are not to be limited by statute) into account before imposing the sentence.
Don't blame Utah for this, it was a Scotus ruling that restored the Death Penalty, Gregg v. Georgia, where they only allowed death penalty statutes on the basis that the penalty had to be imposed only if specific aggravating circumstances showing the murder was somehow worse than regular murders including murder for money, murder for politics, for sexual depravity, drug dealing, etc. etc. around the murder occurred.
The jury (some states used judges before Ring v. Arizona required only a jury to impose a death sentence) was to take into account ALL aggravating facts and mitigating facts (which are not to be limited by statute) into account before imposing the sentence.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (E4rtv)
89
>> The English have never been able to speak proper American.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
90
I used to pronounce it Mack A Bree as a joke
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (uhVAy)
I like that.
Me:
Gazebo is gaze-bow
Placebo is place-bow
I got many more. My Dad taught me well.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:01 PM (uhVAy)
I like that.
Me:
Gazebo is gaze-bow
Placebo is place-bow
I got many more. My Dad taught me well.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (0aYVJ)
91
67 51 Okay, she is married to the son of a Lord and can’t pronounce chalet?
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Don't we celebrate Hannukah because the Macabres re-dedicated The Temple?
Posted by: zombie
This is hysterical
Posted by: Piper
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Don't we celebrate Hannukah because the Macabres re-dedicated The Temple?
Posted by: zombie
This is hysterical
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)
92
I think in England they pronounce it to rhyme with pallet.
Same with "valet".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Mom always pronounced Maître d' and Accoutrements as "mater-dee" and "acoot-tur-mints" but she was doing it on purpose to make a point about disliking social climbers and them who were too full of themselves.
Same with "valet".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Mom always pronounced Maître d' and Accoutrements as "mater-dee" and "acoot-tur-mints" but she was doing it on purpose to make a point about disliking social climbers and them who were too full of themselves.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (rbvCR)
93
Candace Owens MISPRONOUNCING 40 words straight.
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She is obviously reading the words she keeps mispronouncing so why not substitute another word for it before recording or going live? It seems logic is beyond her in every way.
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She is obviously reading the words she keeps mispronouncing so why not substitute another word for it before recording or going live? It seems logic is beyond her in every way.
Posted by: Decaf at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (ZNpJk)
94
Those "bad ways" of committing murder include putting additional people in danger or killing someone for a political motive.
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We may never know the motive.
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We may never know the motive.
Posted by: ShainS at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (toNFd)
95
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (qFwJc)
Another Democrat assassin. He can't be given the death penalty. He's already dead.
Another Democrat assassin. He can't be given the death penalty. He's already dead.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (wGerL)
96
84 Didn't some guy named Comperatore take a bullet?
Posted by: no one of any consequence
======
That was Trump's attempted assassination in Butler PA.
Posted by: no one of any consequence
======
That was Trump's attempted assassination in Butler PA.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (E4rtv)
97
My favorite little restaurant has mangrove snapper…wonder how I get out of making dinner…
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 06:08 PM (ZdaMQ)
98
Oh, wrong assassination.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:08 PM (qFwJc)
99
Don't we celebrate Hannukah because the Macabres re-dedicated The Temple?
Posted by: zombie
This is hysterical
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)
Very Jewish to make a major holiday over a big savings in lamp oil.
Posted by: zombie
This is hysterical
Posted by: Piper at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)
Very Jewish to make a major holiday over a big savings in lamp oil.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:09 PM (uhVAy)
100
Who wants some Whore De Overs~~???
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2026 06:09 PM (diia5)
101
Conspiracy wackos do not plead the fifth. They just launch into more conspiracies. "Mossad paid Andrew!!! They're aiming energy weapons at me right now~!"
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Wilson 'debated' Stew Peters about this topic, and Peters basically spent the entire time stating he wasn't going to answer any questions about his theories, but Wilson had to prove the state's case in the Robinson hearings. I can see whats-her-face doing something similar.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Wilson 'debated' Stew Peters about this topic, and Peters basically spent the entire time stating he wasn't going to answer any questions about his theories, but Wilson had to prove the state's case in the Robinson hearings. I can see whats-her-face doing something similar.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 06:09 PM (Q89nA)
102
depends what you think your soul is worth I suppose.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (uhVAy)
___
Considering that both God and Satan want it, I'd say it's priceless.
Sad that most people disagree.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (uhVAy)
___
Considering that both God and Satan want it, I'd say it's priceless.
Sad that most people disagree.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:10 PM (24NQL)
103
89 >> The English have never been able to speak proper American.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
And the ridiculous writing - sticking a ridiculous “ u “ in everything, as well as that dumb “ boot “ and “ bonnet “ nonsense. Pathetic.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
And the ridiculous writing - sticking a ridiculous “ u “ in everything, as well as that dumb “ boot “ and “ bonnet “ nonsense. Pathetic.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:10 PM (sTlXt)
104
Horse doovers.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 12, 2026 06:10 PM (0aYVJ)
105
Wilson 'debated' Stew Peters about this topic, and Peters basically spent the entire time stating he wasn't going to answer any questions about his theories, but Wilson had to prove the state's case in the Robinson hearings. I can see whats-her-face doing something similar.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
=======
Doesn't work for civil liability cases.
And Candace has no intention of debating anyone on anything--to do so is to expose her and her followers to ridicule and risk of revealing her lies.
Punk ass bitch.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
=======
Doesn't work for civil liability cases.
And Candace has no intention of debating anyone on anything--to do so is to expose her and her followers to ridicule and risk of revealing her lies.
Punk ass bitch.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (E4rtv)
106
She’s massively dyslexic.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (AZXeW)
107
Wilson 'debated' Stew Peters about this topic, and Peters basically spent the entire time stating he wasn't going to answer any questions about his theories, but Wilson had to prove the state's case in the Robinson hearings. I can see whats-her-face doing something similar.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 06:09 PM (Q89nA)
I think Candace will skate, hopefully without steaking the 300K from Andrew. He's pretty formidable even if he likes you. His wife is pretty formidable as well. It is funny when the chicks on Whatever podcast appeal to HER when Andrew is 'too mean' and she chops them up.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 12, 2026 06:09 PM (Q89nA)
I think Candace will skate, hopefully without steaking the 300K from Andrew. He's pretty formidable even if he likes you. His wife is pretty formidable as well. It is funny when the chicks on Whatever podcast appeal to HER when Andrew is 'too mean' and she chops them up.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:12 PM (uhVAy)
108
102 depends what you think your soul is worth I suppose.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (uhVAy)
___
Considering that both God and Satan want it, I'd say it's priceless.
Sad that most people disagree.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:10 PM (24NQL)
The huge majority of people are doomed, SMH, so the devil is getting plenty of guests.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:05 PM (uhVAy)
___
Considering that both God and Satan want it, I'd say it's priceless.
Sad that most people disagree.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:10 PM (24NQL)
The huge majority of people are doomed, SMH, so the devil is getting plenty of guests.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:12 PM (sTlXt)
109
That it was a political assassination is clear. What other motive could he have for murdering a political figure in cold blood?
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2026 06:12 PM (YwEeS)
110
If not in the video, her pronunciation of 'macabre' is the stuff of legend.
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Is it like "Brett Favre" where the letters are out of order? "Ma-Carb?"
Posted by: Stu Podaso
Is it like "Brett Favre" where the letters are out of order? "Ma-Carb?"
Posted by: mikeski at August 12, 2026 06:12 PM (VHUov)
111
She’s massively dyslexic.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (AZXeW)
That's not how 'stupid' is spelled. If you don't know big words, don't have them in your script.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (AZXeW)
That's not how 'stupid' is spelled. If you don't know big words, don't have them in your script.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:12 PM (uhVAy)
112
7 "or killing someone for a political motive."
So, did that get swept under the rug?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (qFwJc)
The left contends that 'Human Rights' issues (which they get to define) somehow have no intersection with Politics.
So, did that get swept under the rug?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 05:47 PM (qFwJc)
The left contends that 'Human Rights' issues (which they get to define) somehow have no intersection with Politics.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (mP0Kj)
113
Also, Brits say cen-tri-FYOO-gul for centrifugal, and cen-tri-PEE-tal for centripetal. Some of that is like fingernails on the chalkboard.
But to be fair, our pronunciations have the same effect on them.
Also, Brits say cen-tri-FYOO-gul for centrifugal, and cen-tri-PEE-tal for centripetal. Some of that is like fingernails on the chalkboard.
But to be fair, our pronunciations have the same effect on them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (w6EFb)
114
80 The English have never been able to speak proper American.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sTlXt)
I was watching a cooking video the other day with some fat limey chef who kept saying tinned toe-mot-toes. I had to replay it 3-4 times to figure out he was talking about canned tomatoes. I hate the English.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sTlXt)
I was watching a cooking video the other day with some fat limey chef who kept saying tinned toe-mot-toes. I had to replay it 3-4 times to figure out he was talking about canned tomatoes. I hate the English.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (QaH55)
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98 Oh, wrong assassination.
Posted by: no one of any consequence
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We still know little to nothing of the Butler assassination other than it appears to be another notch for the incels that then become troon, or troon curious. Someone activated these shits--in the case of Tyler, it is possible even that the wrong asshole is on trial as his furry bitch is likely to skate but highly likely to have egged murderous rage on his lover. Watch and wait if they call Furry asshole to the stand how the defense will play it.
Posted by: no one of any consequence
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We still know little to nothing of the Butler assassination other than it appears to be another notch for the incels that then become troon, or troon curious. Someone activated these shits--in the case of Tyler, it is possible even that the wrong asshole is on trial as his furry bitch is likely to skate but highly likely to have egged murderous rage on his lover. Watch and wait if they call Furry asshole to the stand how the defense will play it.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:14 PM (E4rtv)
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9 >> The English have never been able to speak proper American.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
The change from Aluminum is scientifically invalid.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
The change from Aluminum is scientifically invalid.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:14 PM (uhVAy)
117
113
Also, Brits say cen-tri-FYOO-gul for centrifugal, and cen-tri-PEE-tal for centripetal. Some of that is like fingernails on the chalkboard.
But to be fair, our pronunciations have the same effect on them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (w6EFb)
Of course, but we are right so they’ll just have to deal with it, or get with Our Program.
Also, Brits say cen-tri-FYOO-gul for centrifugal, and cen-tri-PEE-tal for centripetal. Some of that is like fingernails on the chalkboard.
But to be fair, our pronunciations have the same effect on them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (w6EFb)
Of course, but we are right so they’ll just have to deal with it, or get with Our Program.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:14 PM (sTlXt)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (24NQL)
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Professional lawyers, unlike dishonest podcasters, have ethical obligations that bar them from saying things they know are untrue
Lol, "lawyers" and "ethical" in the same sentence. "Legal" obligations, maybe. "Ethical"? Sure.
Lol, "lawyers" and "ethical" in the same sentence. "Legal" obligations, maybe. "Ethical"? Sure.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (9ZFZd)
120
I live by the "alligator" defense. ' Gator in the golf course pond/ lake? Let members know; pets, people start disappearing? Time for the 'gator to go...
Posted by: pahound at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (AjR4+)
121
She’s massively dyslexic.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (AZXeW)
Her presentation is overly "bright" and precise. It is seriously weird.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:11 PM (AZXeW)
Her presentation is overly "bright" and precise. It is seriously weird.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (rbvCR)
122
If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
123
Sounds like she speaks jive
Sounds like she speaks jive
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (NtVYv)
124
I was waiting to see if "epitome" made the Owens mispronunciation list.
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Ysav4)
125
122 If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
I do, and I am rather fond of mine.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
I do, and I am rather fond of mine.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (sTlXt)
126
I was watching a cooking video the other day with some fat limey chef who kept saying tinned toe-mot-toes. I had to replay it 3-4 times to figure out he was talking about canned tomatoes. I hate the English.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to, to-may-to, to-mah-to
Oh, let's call the whole thing off!
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to, to-may-to, to-mah-to
Oh, let's call the whole thing off!
Posted by: Fred & Ginger at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (VHUov)
127
>> The English have never been able to speak proper American.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
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It's why we find their accent absolutely hilarious.
I know. Al-you-min-ee-um. Zed. Mee-thane. Maths. The list goes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 12, 2026 06:07 PM (w6EFb)
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It's why we find their accent absolutely hilarious.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (FZ29D)
128
If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
you were born for that comment.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
you were born for that comment.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (uhVAy)
Posted by: polynikes at August 12, 2026 06:17 PM (KC5Lt)
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109 That it was a political assassination is clear. What other motive could he have for murdering a political figure in cold blood?
Posted by: steevy
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Lawyers for the defense are compelled to put the best defense that they can before the court. The mass of evidence precludes trying the old SODDI or TODDI defense--some other dude did it or the other dude did it. I suspect that we are going to see, if Furry asshole is called as a prosecution witness, that the defense will make it like Tyler was besotted and manipulated into killing-so the motive was love, not political hatred.
Dunno if the prosecution is going to call the guy though as they have enough without it and the defense is not likely to risk it either.
Posted by: steevy
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Lawyers for the defense are compelled to put the best defense that they can before the court. The mass of evidence precludes trying the old SODDI or TODDI defense--some other dude did it or the other dude did it. I suspect that we are going to see, if Furry asshole is called as a prosecution witness, that the defense will make it like Tyler was besotted and manipulated into killing-so the motive was love, not political hatred.
Dunno if the prosecution is going to call the guy though as they have enough without it and the defense is not likely to risk it either.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:17 PM (E4rtv)
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128 If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
you were born for that comment.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (uhVAy)
That’s pretty good.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
you were born for that comment.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (uhVAy)
That’s pretty good.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:17 PM (sTlXt)
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It's why we find their accent absolutely hilarious.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (FZ29D)
That and if you go there almost nobody in England speaks that way either.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (FZ29D)
That and if you go there almost nobody in England speaks that way either.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:17 PM (uhVAy)
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ter·ror·ism
noun
terrorism (noun)
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims:
So, murder because of the Trans agenda, which is POLITICAL, is terrorism...
And somehow that is NOT an aggravating circumstance?
noun
terrorism (noun)
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims:
So, murder because of the Trans agenda, which is POLITICAL, is terrorism...
And somehow that is NOT an aggravating circumstance?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (mP0Kj)
134
If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
___
I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
135
"50. I thought lying in wait and stalking were special circumstances. Likewise political assassination, which this clearly was."
Neither lying in wait nor stalking are aggravating factors in Utah. Nor was the victim law enforcement or a public official, which Utah law does have as aggravators.
The prosecutors have charged the one factor that fits, while the defense says there are not enough grounds.
I wonder just how many rounds were left in the rifle, and isn't that sufficient evidence of posing grave danger to others around the victim? Just a thought.
Neither lying in wait nor stalking are aggravating factors in Utah. Nor was the victim law enforcement or a public official, which Utah law does have as aggravators.
The prosecutors have charged the one factor that fits, while the defense says there are not enough grounds.
I wonder just how many rounds were left in the rifle, and isn't that sufficient evidence of posing grave danger to others around the victim? Just a thought.
Posted by: Fritz at August 12, 2026 06:19 PM (J7jo9)
136
My second choice is trolling the rubes.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:19 PM (AZXeW)
137
If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
I remember a short-short SF/Fantasy story where God shows up late for the second coming.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
I remember a short-short SF/Fantasy story where God shows up late for the second coming.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (uhVAy)
138
The English have never been able to speak proper American.
Whenever I watch a British TV show, I always turn on the closed captions.
Whenever I watch a British TV show, I always turn on the closed captions.
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (Oy/m2)
139
I was waiting to see if "epitome" made the Owens mispronunciation list.
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Ysav4)
Brian Regan had a great bit about that. Someone said "you pronounce every word wrong!"
He responded, "now that is the eppy-tome of hyper-bowl."
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Ysav4)
Brian Regan had a great bit about that. Someone said "you pronounce every word wrong!"
He responded, "now that is the eppy-tome of hyper-bowl."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (0aYVJ)
140
Candace should show an emoticon of respect.
Posted by: Mega Mac at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (BI5O2)
141
It's why we find their accent absolutely hilarious.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
That and if you go there almost nobody in England speaks that way either.
Posted by: Oldcat
Well, their accents are regional.
Like "The three blocks off the north side of Main Street in Codswollop-on-Great-Ouse, on Thursday, accent" regional.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
That and if you go there almost nobody in England speaks that way either.
Posted by: Oldcat
Well, their accents are regional.
Like "The three blocks off the north side of Main Street in Codswollop-on-Great-Ouse, on Thursday, accent" regional.
Posted by: mikeski at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (VHUov)
142
Black America has this petulant ignorance streak. Mispronouncing SAT words would be a thing.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:21 PM (AZXeW)
143
I was waiting to see if "epitome" made the Owens mispronunciation list.
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Ysav4)
Eppy Tome?
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Ysav4)
Eppy Tome?
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:21 PM (uhVAy)
144
If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
I think life is like a Pachinko machine. The final destination is known in a random path but God can intervene and change the direction if he chooses.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
I think life is like a Pachinko machine. The final destination is known in a random path but God can intervene and change the direction if he chooses.
Posted by: polynikes at August 12, 2026 06:21 PM (KC5Lt)
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134 If you hold to predestination, the soul is worthless.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
Nice point. If He knows something is going to happen in the future, it kinda follows that it is gonna happen. Unless He gets surprised all the time by us little scamps, which means He’s NOT omniscient, so just a kinda little God.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 12, 2026 06:15 PM (88C+u)
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I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 12, 2026 06:18 PM (24NQL)
Nice point. If He knows something is going to happen in the future, it kinda follows that it is gonna happen. Unless He gets surprised all the time by us little scamps, which means He’s NOT omniscient, so just a kinda little God.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (sTlXt)
146
That kid deserves only one thing.
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (MWfyi)
147
Good grief. This is as preposterous as that idiot in Spokane who started the Old Trail fire only being convicted of manslaughter for murdering his own father. WTH is happening in the US with this total disregard for human life? Sickening.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (2NHgQ)
148
***his shot was well-aimed and did not put anyone else in danger, so he should not be executed for his murder.
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Amazing times in which we live.
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Amazing times in which we live.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (VQ0bX)
149
Mahopac.
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (AZXeW)
150
I usually call for life in prison, and don't care for the death penalty.
But it might be the only way when it comes to these guys who shoot prominent right wingers.
These pizza-faced weirdos and furries and shut-ins will just get released by some Communist judge once some time passes and nobody is looking.
But it might be the only way when it comes to these guys who shoot prominent right wingers.
These pizza-faced weirdos and furries and shut-ins will just get released by some Communist judge once some time passes and nobody is looking.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2026 06:23 PM (BI5O2)
151
I think I will talk about Candy Ovens now, or maybe the foul and filthy English.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:23 PM (sTlXt)
152
Like "The three blocks off the north side of Main Street in Codswollop-on-Great-Ouse, on Thursday, accent" regional.
Posted by: mikeski at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (VHUov)
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The Brits struggle to do a Midwestern American accent. It's very difficult because it's so unique and a fusion of disparate elements with the Irish "R" but lots of Germanisms worked in. Much of what we think is "American" is German, and when the German language was forcibly suppressed in 1917, I think a lot of speakers bent American English into something of a pretzel.
Posted by: mikeski at August 12, 2026 06:20 PM (VHUov)
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The Brits struggle to do a Midwestern American accent. It's very difficult because it's so unique and a fusion of disparate elements with the Irish "R" but lots of Germanisms worked in. Much of what we think is "American" is German, and when the German language was forcibly suppressed in 1917, I think a lot of speakers bent American English into something of a pretzel.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (ZOv7s)
153
Surely political murder counts as an enhancement.
Posted by: toby928(c) at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (+v9Nq)
They're making the argument that it wasn't political. Totally not political. No sirree, nothing to see here.
Posted by: toby928(c) at August 12, 2026 05:51 PM (+v9Nq)
They're making the argument that it wasn't political. Totally not political. No sirree, nothing to see here.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (ExV1e)
154
I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy
_________
But if He knows, doesn't that still mean it's predestined?
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy
_________
But if He knows, doesn't that still mean it's predestined?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (XvL8K)
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114 80 The English have never been able to speak proper American.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sTlXt)
I was watching a cooking video the other day with some fat limey chef who kept saying tinned toe-mot-toes. I had to replay it 3-4 times to figure out he was talking about canned tomatoes. I hate the English.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (QaH55)
The Brits expect 330+ million Americans to use English pronunciations, spelling, and grammar as used in England by 30 million (?) Englanders (not Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irelanders). When we don't, they call us uneducated barbarians. Because they can only attempt to assuage their feelings of inferiority and envy of America and Americans using miscellaneous tiny cultural comparison ways. Sad.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:04 PM (sTlXt)
I was watching a cooking video the other day with some fat limey chef who kept saying tinned toe-mot-toes. I had to replay it 3-4 times to figure out he was talking about canned tomatoes. I hate the English.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 12, 2026 06:13 PM (QaH55)
The Brits expect 330+ million Americans to use English pronunciations, spelling, and grammar as used in England by 30 million (?) Englanders (not Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irelanders). When we don't, they call us uneducated barbarians. Because they can only attempt to assuage their feelings of inferiority and envy of America and Americans using miscellaneous tiny cultural comparison ways. Sad.
Posted by: Gref at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (5rh/l)
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147 Good grief. This is as preposterous as that idiot in Spokane who started the Old Trail fire only being convicted of manslaughter for murdering his own father. WTH is happening in the US with this total disregard for human life? Sickening.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
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One of the problems with tilting the balance too much toward the individual and too little toward society. Warren Court while redressing older grievances of the wrongfully accused introduced new grievances where judges feel free to let loose monsters to kill, main, and terrorize society. Same with the mentally ill.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
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One of the problems with tilting the balance too much toward the individual and too little toward society. Warren Court while redressing older grievances of the wrongfully accused introduced new grievances where judges feel free to let loose monsters to kill, main, and terrorize society. Same with the mentally ill.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (E4rtv)
157
I have fired s 30.06. it was not fun. It has 2x the power of a 223 round. I helped butcher an 800 pound moose in Alaska that was hit by one. The round went right through her after shattering a rib.
Posted by: Paul at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (UZfgv)
158
I usually call for life in prison, and don't care for the death penalty.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2026 06:23 PM (BI5O2)
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I used to buy the argument that the death penalty gave the state too much power, but I now feel that a quick death is better than locking someone in a dungeon for life. For one thing, prisons are expensive, and we're basically forced to feed scumbags who in every previous civilization would have been executed.
It's basically cheap grace. Make Hanging Great Again.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2026 06:23 PM (BI5O2)
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I used to buy the argument that the death penalty gave the state too much power, but I now feel that a quick death is better than locking someone in a dungeon for life. For one thing, prisons are expensive, and we're basically forced to feed scumbags who in every previous civilization would have been executed.
It's basically cheap grace. Make Hanging Great Again.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (ZOv7s)
159
>>>He’s NOT omniscient, so just a kinda little God.
Posted by: tubal at
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Let's humiliate ourselves over things we will not know
in this lifetime for $500.
Posted by: tubal at
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Let's humiliate ourselves over things we will not know
in this lifetime for $500.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (VQ0bX)
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The Brits struggle to do a Midwestern American accent. It's very difficult because it's so unique and a fusion of disparate elements with the Irish "R" but lots of Germanisms worked in. Much of what we think is "American" is German, and when the German language was forcibly suppressed in 1917, I think a lot of speakers bent American English into something of a pretzel.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Heh, the British Royal family , being German, should have no such problems with the Midwest accent then.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Heh, the British Royal family , being German, should have no such problems with the Midwest accent then.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
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149 Mahopac.
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (AZXeW)
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Id much rather have my whore than mayonnaise. Just saying …
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (AZXeW)
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Id much rather have my whore than mayonnaise. Just saying …
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (yTXpW)
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So... my oldest (younger) sister came to visit me today and brought penis shaped sugar cookies with a smilie face and the legend "Peter Prostate" to 'celebrate' my cancer. Apparently, all my siblings chipped in.
I have a weird family.
I have a weird family.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ExV1e)
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What gets me is how Brits can turn the word "no" into a multisyllabic word. Naeiuw.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (0aYVJ)
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159 >>>He’s NOT omniscient, so just a kinda little God.
Posted by: tubal at
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Let's humiliate ourselves over things we will not know
in this lifetime for $500.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (VQ0bX)
Or, talk about Candy Ovens which was the point of the post. I am BACK On Track, Braenyard!!
Posted by: tubal at
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Let's humiliate ourselves over things we will not know
in this lifetime for $500.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (VQ0bX)
Or, talk about Candy Ovens which was the point of the post. I am BACK On Track, Braenyard!!
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (sTlXt)
Posted by: polynikes at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (KC5Lt)
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154 I hold that God lives outside of time, so He knows who will and who will not repent.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy
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But if He knows, doesn't that still mean it's predestined?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (XvL8K)
Well, yeah. It's all His stuff.
We, on the other hand, do not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy
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But if He knows, doesn't that still mean it's predestined?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 12, 2026 06:24 PM (XvL8K)
Well, yeah. It's all His stuff.
Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (LHPAg)
167
There are some British actors who seem to be able to pull off American
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
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I have a weird family.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ExV1e)
LOL.. They sound great
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ExV1e)
LOL.. They sound great
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (FtULh)
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157 I have fired s 30.06. it was not fun. It has 2x the power of a 223 round. I helped butcher an 800 pound moose in Alaska that was hit by one. The round went right through her after shattering a rib.
Posted by: Paul at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (UZfgv)
Yeah ... sure Jan ...
Posted by: Paul at August 12, 2026 06:25 PM (UZfgv)
Yeah ... sure Jan ...
Posted by: browndog says woof at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (3sXRv)
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So... my oldest (younger) sister came to visit me today and brought penis shaped sugar cookies with a smilie face and the legend "Peter Prostate" to 'celebrate' my cancer. Apparently, all my siblings chipped in.
I have a weird family.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ExV1e)
So funny. I bet your family is awesome. And prayers to you.
I have a weird family.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ExV1e)
So funny. I bet your family is awesome. And prayers to you.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (0aYVJ)
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Heh, the British Royal family , being German, should have no such problems with the Midwest accent then.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
There are different dialects in Germany as in England. Hannover is north Germany, while without a demographic map US immigration might be more South German, say Bavaria.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
There are different dialects in Germany as in England. Hannover is north Germany, while without a demographic map US immigration might be more South German, say Bavaria.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (uhVAy)
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Did it have the thing that goes up, Paul?
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (MWfyi)
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Obama pronounced corps like a corpse.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
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Heh, the British Royal family , being German, should have no such problems with the Midwest accent then.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
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And of course the true claimants to the throne of England presently speak German.
Hugh Laurie was asked if doing an American show in America with Americans helped him with House's accent and he said no. He always had to work hard to make sure he got it right because American English is very inconsistent.
Southern accents, on the other hand, are very easy for the English to do, and that's what they often resort to if asked to play an American.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
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And of course the true claimants to the throne of England presently speak German.
Hugh Laurie was asked if doing an American show in America with Americans helped him with House's accent and he said no. He always had to work hard to make sure he got it right because American English is very inconsistent.
Southern accents, on the other hand, are very easy for the English to do, and that's what they often resort to if asked to play an American.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (ZOv7s)
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173 Obama pronounced corps like a corpse.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt)
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whig you’ve touched on the other problem, mental illness. Just because you’re mentally ill shouldn’t give you a free pass on murder. If not prison a mentally ill murderer should be institutionalized. Nope, cannot do that since it’s cruel. Tell that to the families of those that were murdered by these ill people, what about the cruelty of them living without their loved ones?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (MWfyi)
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161 149 Mahopac.
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (AZXeW)
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Id much rather have my whore than mayonnaise. Just saying …
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (yTXpW)
May-Oh-Naze!
Louis Gossett Jr.
I grew up saying mayo pack.
The smart set said ma hoe pack.
My Buffalo cousins are more familiar with Indian place names and said the latter.
Posted by: Accomack at August 12, 2026 06:22 PM (AZXeW)
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Id much rather have my whore than mayonnaise. Just saying …
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:26 PM (yTXpW)
May-Oh-Naze!
Louis Gossett Jr.
Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (LHPAg)
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167 There are some British actors who seem to be able to pull off American
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
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Christian Bale. Ever hear him in an interview? Sounds like a bad Monty python skit.
Hugh Jackman? Yes, he’s Aussie but holy shit the native accent on the guy in interviews. Sounds like a parody of crocodile Dundee.
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
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Christian Bale. Ever hear him in an interview? Sounds like a bad Monty python skit.
Hugh Jackman? Yes, he’s Aussie but holy shit the native accent on the guy in interviews. Sounds like a parody of crocodile Dundee.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (yTXpW)
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I think Candy is just an evil narcissistic grifter, she's not dumb or mentally ill
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (xcxpd)
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There are different dialects in Germany as in England. Hannover is north Germany, while without a demographic map US immigration might be more South German, say Bavaria.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (uhVAy)
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I think most Germans came from the Rhineland and areas outside of Prussia proper. The towns kind of give it away in some areas. Frankenmuth, Michigan is Bavarian.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (uhVAy)
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I think most Germans came from the Rhineland and areas outside of Prussia proper. The towns kind of give it away in some areas. Frankenmuth, Michigan is Bavarian.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
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Ace internet debater and slayer-of-Leftists Andrew Wilson is now on to debate the psycho-chick Owens. She's set to receive a payoff of $350k.
I admire Wilson but this is a mistake.
I admire Wilson but this is a mistake.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (7s9Qe)
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Obama pronounced corps like a corpse.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
Posted by: polynikes at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (KC5Lt)
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180 I think Candy is just an evil narcissistic grifter, she's not dumb or mentally ill
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (xcxpd)
Same, but I would add weird ass hell, also.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (xcxpd)
Same, but I would add weird ass hell, also.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (sTlXt)
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There are some British actors who seem to be able to pull off American
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
Gary Oldman
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
Gary Oldman
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (Oy/m2)
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But they say his shot was well-aimed and did not put anyone else in danger, so he should not be executed for his murder.
You see, your honor, yes I know I was going 50 over the speed limit in the school zone, but my speeding was well executed, the drifting around the corner and through the parking lot was viral video material, yet I did not actually hit anyone so they weren't in danger, so this charge should be dismissed.
You see, your honor, yes I know I was going 50 over the speed limit in the school zone, but my speeding was well executed, the drifting around the corner and through the parking lot was viral video material, yet I did not actually hit anyone so they weren't in danger, so this charge should be dismissed.
Posted by: Community Notes at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (BvPIe)
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The death penalty is licit. Read the Catechism of the Council of Trent. It is for the protection of the innocent.
JPII watered it down in the CCC. Bergoglio, the heretic and antipope forbids it.
All you Catholics, throw out your CCC and read the Catechism of the Council of Trent.
The CCC is sprinkled throughout with little poison pills of heresy.
JPII watered it down in the CCC. Bergoglio, the heretic and antipope forbids it.
All you Catholics, throw out your CCC and read the Catechism of the Council of Trent.
The CCC is sprinkled throughout with little poison pills of heresy.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (qFwJc)
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I have a 30-36, my .44 magnum carbine kicks harder.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (xcxpd)
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*30-06
sheesh, I need an edit feature
sheesh, I need an edit feature
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (xcxpd)
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@149 funny is listening to non upstate NYers trying to pronounce Dutch or Native American place names . Mahopac was Indian.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (WOnE5)
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This will cause a NOOD, but Mrs. Lloyd is doing well after her surgery. She elected to stay overnight at the hospital because one of the nerve blockers didn't work and she can get better pain management there.
As the surgical team was assembling and I had to go, I wished her well and then looked at her chest and said: "Well, I'm gonna miss you guys. I really enjoyed the 26 years we had together."
As the surgical team was assembling and I had to go, I wished her well and then looked at her chest and said: "Well, I'm gonna miss you guys. I really enjoyed the 26 years we had together."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:34 PM (ZOv7s)
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189 *30-06
sheesh, I need an edit feature
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (xcxpd)
You didn’t press the unsend key??
sheesh, I need an edit feature
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (xcxpd)
You didn’t press the unsend key??
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:34 PM (sTlXt)
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Worse than Benghazi.
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
The image Trump cowering like a little bitch in a catering truck with other members of his throuple while running away and leaving the rest of his team and the media to die in a possible Iranian attack will never get old.
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
The image Trump cowering like a little bitch in a catering truck with other members of his throuple while running away and leaving the rest of his team and the media to die in a possible Iranian attack will never get old.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fear Me! at August 12, 2026 06:34 PM (ndZc7)
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Mandarin Chinese and Cantonese are the same language. The characters are the same. They aren’t different languages, but different dialects. Dialects that are so different they can’t understand each other. Odd. But China, so …
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (yTXpW)
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Well, Robinson is an absolute dead bang loser, so his attorney has to get creative.
Posted by: Random PJ at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (+jscL)
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Obama calling the Falklands the Maldives instead of Malvinas was a showing of his Candace like intellect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (WOnE5)
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Did she bring them in a bag?
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (MWfyi)
No, they were in a bakery box. She bought them local. Apparently, the bakery was not at all keen on making them but she 'splained the situation and convinced them.
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (MWfyi)
No, they were in a bakery box. She bought them local. Apparently, the bakery was not at all keen on making them but she 'splained the situation and convinced them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (ExV1e)
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I think most Germans came from the Rhineland and areas outside of Prussia proper. The towns kind of give it away in some areas. Frankenmuth, Michigan is Bavarian.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
Yeah, Prussia and Hannover were owned by major powers and thus somewhat insulated from the kind of stresses that spark emigration. There were revolts and civil wars in 1848 that sparked an urgent need to leave the scene for many, who then came to the US and fought in the ACW. A German District in Cincy was called 'Over the Rhine' because it was across a canal and had lots of Germans.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
Yeah, Prussia and Hannover were owned by major powers and thus somewhat insulated from the kind of stresses that spark emigration. There were revolts and civil wars in 1848 that sparked an urgent need to leave the scene for many, who then came to the US and fought in the ACW. A German District in Cincy was called 'Over the Rhine' because it was across a canal and had lots of Germans.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (uhVAy)
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There are some British actors who seem to be able to pull off American
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
Gary Oldman
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (Oy/m2)
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It can and has been done, but in interviews they all describe it as something of a chore. Being able to do it well is something of a brag.
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
Gary Oldman
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2026 06:32 PM (Oy/m2)
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It can and has been done, but in interviews they all describe it as something of a chore. Being able to do it well is something of a brag.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (ZOv7s)
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196 Obama calling the Falklands the Maldives instead of Malvinas was a showing of his Candace like intellect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (WOnE5)
He was only, what 10,000 miles off?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (WOnE5)
He was only, what 10,000 miles off?
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (sTlXt)
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candy owen and the rick wilson in the same thread! Make it stop.
Anyway. Murder is murder and he cops to it, fry his ass UT.
Anyway. Murder is murder and he cops to it, fry his ass UT.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (2NHgQ)
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A.H., glad to hear it. Good luck and God bless to you and your wife
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (WOnE5)
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What if Tyler Robinson was really trying to shoot him in the ear...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (E9VJ1)
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But they say his shot was well-aimed and did not put anyone else in danger, so he should not be executed for his murder.
The argument is ridiculous even as stated. No one intends a neck shot. It was a misplaced head or torso shot and therefore not "well-aimed"
The argument is ridiculous even as stated. No one intends a neck shot. It was a misplaced head or torso shot and therefore not "well-aimed"
Posted by: Halfhand at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (Ysav4)
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College staircase dope and bullshit session.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (wxsGM)
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He did not only murder Charlie Kirk, he was attempting to murder the whole Christian Movement, and its confrontation of the evil left (and its predatory nature). That seems to enhance the charge sufficiently for the death penalty, imo.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (vbXSk)
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> But if He knows, doesn't that still mean it's predestined?
Foreknowledge isn't the same as predestination. Foreknowledge is knowing something will occur. Predestination is making something occur.
The classic formulation:
God knows all things perfectly.
God knows X will happen.
Therefore X will happen. (necessity of the consequence)
It does not follow that you could not have done otherwise. (necessity of the consequent)
God's knowledge tracks what free agents will freely do. It doesn't force the choice.
Foreknowledge isn't the same as predestination. Foreknowledge is knowing something will occur. Predestination is making something occur.
The classic formulation:
God knows all things perfectly.
God knows X will happen.
Therefore X will happen. (necessity of the consequence)
It does not follow that you could not have done otherwise. (necessity of the consequent)
God's knowledge tracks what free agents will freely do. It doesn't force the choice.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (mkw2N)
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Mandarin Chinese and Cantonese are the same language. The characters are the same. They aren’t different languages, but different dialects. Dialects that are so different they can’t understand each other. Odd. But China, so …
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (yTXpW)
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They are different languages but use the same characters, which are symbolic/conceptual rather than phonetic. The spoken words can be completely different, but the concepts are the same. Really weird.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (yTXpW)
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They are different languages but use the same characters, which are symbolic/conceptual rather than phonetic. The spoken words can be completely different, but the concepts are the same. Really weird.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (ZOv7s)
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I used to buy the argument that the death penalty gave the state too much power, but I now feel that a quick death is better than locking someone in a dungeon for life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I'm in favor of giving them a choice. BUT -- if your choice is the dungeon, it's irrevocable.
I used to buy the argument that the death penalty gave the state too much power, but I now feel that a quick death is better than locking someone in a dungeon for life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I'm in favor of giving them a choice. BUT -- if your choice is the dungeon, it's irrevocable.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (XJ22o)
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@149 funny is listening to non upstate NYers trying to pronounce Dutch or Native American place names . Mahopac was Indian.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (WOnE5)
What makes spelling vs pronunciation gets hard is when it is written down. Indian names are usually just how they sound since they were not written down before.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:33 PM (WOnE5)
What makes spelling vs pronunciation gets hard is when it is written down. Indian names are usually just how they sound since they were not written down before.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (uhVAy)
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"Well, I'm gonna miss you guys. I really enjoyed the 26 years we had together."
With MS, my wife's "shrank." Oh well. as Ben Franklin noted, the nether regions are the last to go.
Love her. Fondle what is there that is little left. Kiss her and tell her that you love her.
And then give her what for.
With MS, my wife's "shrank." Oh well. as Ben Franklin noted, the nether regions are the last to go.
Love her. Fondle what is there that is little left. Kiss her and tell her that you love her.
And then give her what for.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:39 PM (qFwJc)
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Tyler's argument, or his lawyers is totally BS
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (Ia/+0)
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The image Trump cowering like a little bitch in a catering truck with other members of his throuple while running away and leaving the rest of his team and the media to die in a possible Iranian attack will never get old.
You do realize that those multi-millionaire freeloaders in the Enemedia could have just made separate arrangements themselves to get home. Commercial flights to accept American passengers from that area.
Apparently the threat wasn't that much of a deal to spring a few thousand bucks for a 1st class home.
You do realize that those multi-millionaire freeloaders in the Enemedia could have just made separate arrangements themselves to get home. Commercial flights to accept American passengers from that area.
Apparently the threat wasn't that much of a deal to spring a few thousand bucks for a 1st class home.
Posted by: Community Notes at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (pawvM)
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There are some British actors who seem to be able to pull off American
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Didja see that Hugh Laurie called out the Woke-stapo the other day.
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Didja see that Hugh Laurie called out the Woke-stapo the other day.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fear Me! at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (ndZc7)
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A.H., glad to hear it. Good luck and God bless to you and your wife
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (WOnE5)
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Thank you! It's crazy that we had no idea about any of this at the start of July. One hell of a ride.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:37 PM (WOnE5)
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Thank you! It's crazy that we had no idea about any of this at the start of July. One hell of a ride.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (ZOv7s)
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Very Jewish to make a major holiday over a big savings in lamp oil.
Some years ago I worked with an observant Jewish dude who explained that it wasn't a major holiday but latkes and jelly donuts are good so just go with it.
Some years ago I worked with an observant Jewish dude who explained that it wasn't a major holiday but latkes and jelly donuts are good so just go with it.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (vTZFs)
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"He did not only murder Charlie Kirk, he was attempting to murder the whole Christian Movement"
AND, trying to instill fear in anyone that might speak out publicly about clear Christian (American) beliefs. "Obey us or our crazies will murder you ... and that goes for you too, DJ Trump".
AND, trying to instill fear in anyone that might speak out publicly about clear Christian (American) beliefs. "Obey us or our crazies will murder you ... and that goes for you too, DJ Trump".
Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (vbXSk)
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To get the death penalty, there must be an enhancement to "mere" murder.
In other words, I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy.
In other words, I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy.
Posted by: t-bird at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (hLZfT)
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If you know what happens at any point in time you don't have to manipulate anything. You just know what happens.
Posted by: fd at August 12, 2026 06:41 PM (MWfyi)
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Felt recoil is a function of Newtonian physics. The weight of the bullet, the powder charge, the weight of the rifle, and the frequency of the recoil impulse all affect the experience. Shoot a 30-06 in a Garand weighing ten pounds with range ammo--150 gr at 2700 is not horrible in part because the gas operation lessens the recoil impulse. Fire it in a six pound bolt action 18-20 inch barrel rifle and using 160's or 170's bullets, it can be unpleasant.
The fit of a rifle and how much you work out makes a difference too. Heavy muscles in the shoulder can help shield and cushion the recoil impact and the rifle butt of the stock means x amount of energy is applied over x amount of surface area contacting the shoulder. Fatter stock, greater dispersion of force on the shoulder, thin and small stock butt, much more unpleasant.
Then we have rifle butt pads--none or steel, you best have a firm hold on the rifle cause woo boy it can pound. Put a thick recoil pad or a shooters jacket. Much less.
I find 30-06 in a decently weighted rifle more pleasant in recoil than firing 12 gauge slugs from a shotgun, ceteris paribus.
The fit of a rifle and how much you work out makes a difference too. Heavy muscles in the shoulder can help shield and cushion the recoil impact and the rifle butt of the stock means x amount of energy is applied over x amount of surface area contacting the shoulder. Fatter stock, greater dispersion of force on the shoulder, thin and small stock butt, much more unpleasant.
Then we have rifle butt pads--none or steel, you best have a firm hold on the rifle cause woo boy it can pound. Put a thick recoil pad or a shooters jacket. Much less.
I find 30-06 in a decently weighted rifle more pleasant in recoil than firing 12 gauge slugs from a shotgun, ceteris paribus.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:41 PM (E4rtv)
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Obama calling the Falklands the Maldives instead of Malvinas was a showing of his Candace like intellect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (WOnE5)
He was only, what 10,000 miles off?
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (sTlXt)
Asshole trying to be cute and annoy the English like usual by using the Argentine name., and like the dope he is getting it wrong.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:35 PM (WOnE5)
He was only, what 10,000 miles off?
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:36 PM (sTlXt)
Asshole trying to be cute and annoy the English like usual by using the Argentine name., and like the dope he is getting it wrong.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:41 PM (uhVAy)
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He shot into a crowd of people. There were people standing around Charlie, there's a lot of audience participation. Any jury that buys that BS is both ridiculously stupid and not surprisingly out of currently observed norms for society.
Posted by: banana Dream - Democracy! at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (3uBP9)
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@210 true and around here the Dutch wrote down what they thought the Indians were saying.
There's a Mountain range just south of me running to the Penn border. They're named the Shawangunks. They're pronounced Shon-gum. Any pronunciation sounds vweird.
There's a Mountain range just south of me running to the Penn border. They're named the Shawangunks. They're pronounced Shon-gum. Any pronunciation sounds vweird.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (WOnE5)
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212 Tyler's argument, or his lawyers is totally BS
Posted by: Skip
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Lawyers are duty bound to give the best arguments that they can for their client, even when it is a losing effort. They are trying to save his life with the stack of evidence precluding him getting acquitted.
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Lawyers are duty bound to give the best arguments that they can for their client, even when it is a losing effort. They are trying to save his life with the stack of evidence precluding him getting acquitted.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (E4rtv)
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Apparently the threat wasn't that much of a deal to spring a few thousand bucks for a 1st class home.
Posted by: Community Notes at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (pawvM)
Like they pay anyway, they are on expense accounts.
Posted by: Community Notes at August 12, 2026 06:40 PM (pawvM)
Like they pay anyway, they are on expense accounts.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (uhVAy)
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183 Obama pronounced corps like a corpse.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
i wonder how he pronounces tannhauser
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:29 PM (qFwJc)
Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
i wonder how he pronounces tannhauser
Posted by: anachronda at August 12, 2026 06:43 PM (sGtp+)
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"The image Trump cowering like a little bitch in a catering truck with other members of his throuple while running away and leaving the rest of his team and the media to die in a possible Iranian attack will never get old."
How about the picture of Trump getting shot in the head and standing and raising his fist in defiance? Will that get old? You miserable little goblin loser.
How about the picture of Trump getting shot in the head and standing and raising his fist in defiance? Will that get old? You miserable little goblin loser.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 12, 2026 06:43 PM (7s9Qe)
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Nood
Posted by: Bete at August 12, 2026 06:43 PM (LX4y3)
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God's knowledge tracks what free agents will freely do.
Except the Scriptures clearly state that the Will is a slave to sin.
Slavery ≢ Free
Except the Scriptures clearly state that the Will is a slave to sin.
Slavery ≢ Free
Posted by: Community Notes at August 12, 2026 06:43 PM (pawvM)
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I'm in favor of giving them a choice. BUT -- if your choice is the dungeon, it's irrevocable.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (XJ22o)
Me, too. Chair, rope, or firing squad.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 12, 2026 06:38 PM (XJ22o)
Me, too. Chair, rope, or firing squad.
Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2026 06:44 PM (LHPAg)
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Oldcat. I live in an area that was originally Salish. xwlhtlhplhhskwts
This means he had in his possession a bunchberry plant. I will never try to pronounce that.
This means he had in his possession a bunchberry plant. I will never try to pronounce that.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 12, 2026 06:44 PM (2NHgQ)
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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
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Chief Brownell's say, stiffer spring, thicker buffer.
Make floors shiny and bright.
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Chief Brownell's say, stiffer spring, thicker buffer.
Make floors shiny and bright.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (VQ0bX)
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It's all BS.
You plotted. You planned. It is murder. And if the state won't administer justice, we live in a tyranny.
You plotted. You planned. It is murder. And if the state won't administer justice, we live in a tyranny.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (qFwJc)
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191 This will cause a NOOD, but Mrs. Lloyd is doing well after her surgery. She elected to stay overnight at the hospital because one of the nerve blockers didn't work and she can get better pain management there.
As the surgical team was assembling and I had to go, I wished her well and then looked at her chest and said: "Well, I'm gonna miss you guys. I really enjoyed the 26 years we had together."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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May her healing be swift and may your family be blessed during recovery. Sorry to hear about it.
As the surgical team was assembling and I had to go, I wished her well and then looked at her chest and said: "Well, I'm gonna miss you guys. I really enjoyed the 26 years we had together."
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May her healing be swift and may your family be blessed during recovery. Sorry to hear about it.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (E4rtv)
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I find 30-06 in a decently weighted rifle more pleasant in recoil than firing 12 gauge slugs from a shotgun, ceteris paribus.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:41 PM (E4rtv)
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A while back a friend of mine brought his Dirty Harry Model 29 and compared it to my Taurus Tracker. We used the same ammo in both.
We all figured the 29 would have less felt recoil due to its massive size. We were wrong. The Taurus was much nicer due to the rubber grips and the ported barrel. Still a handful, but not as bad as that Smith.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:41 PM (E4rtv)
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A while back a friend of mine brought his Dirty Harry Model 29 and compared it to my Taurus Tracker. We used the same ammo in both.
We all figured the 29 would have less felt recoil due to its massive size. We were wrong. The Taurus was much nicer due to the rubber grips and the ported barrel. Still a handful, but not as bad as that Smith.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (ZOv7s)
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May her healing be swift and may your family be blessed during recovery. Sorry to hear about it.
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (E4rtv)
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Thank you, and keep healing yourself!
Posted by: whig at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (E4rtv)
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Thank you, and keep healing yourself!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:45 PM (ZOv7s)
237
" I think Candy is just an evil narcissistic grifter, she's not dumb or mentally ill"
the lies she throws around, to undermine a "more pure" movement (for her profit, and to serve her ego), makes her "evil". And that is a mental illness, (or demonic possession, whatever).
the lies she throws around, to undermine a "more pure" movement (for her profit, and to serve her ego), makes her "evil". And that is a mental illness, (or demonic possession, whatever).
Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2026 06:46 PM (vbXSk)
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The longstanding definition of chutzpah is killing your parents then pleading for mercy on the grounds of being an orphan.
That still stands, but I have to say, the defense team pleading for mercy on the grounds of being a crack marksman is definitely up there.
That still stands, but I have to say, the defense team pleading for mercy on the grounds of being a crack marksman is definitely up there.
Posted by: Sam at August 12, 2026 06:46 PM (7jMef)
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IT'S HILARIOUS BECAUSE THE MORMONS HATE BEING CALL PROTESTANTS AND THE PROTESTANTS DON'T CONSIDER THEM EVEN CHRISTIAN.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (qFwJc)
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>>>Pockiston was my favorite.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
Posted by: polynikes
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He and his bull thigh wife love rubbing it in.
Posted by: tubal at August 12, 2026 06:30 PM (sTlXt
And Orion as o-Ree-on
Posted by: polynikes
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He and his bull thigh wife love rubbing it in.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (VQ0bX)
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true and around here the Dutch wrote down what they thought the Indians were saying.
There's a Mountain range just south of me running to the Penn border. They're named the Shawangunks. They're pronounced Shon-gum. Any pronunciation sounds vweird.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (WOnE5)
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Is it Mackinac or Mackinaw? Michigan says "Yes."
There's a Mountain range just south of me running to the Penn border. They're named the Shawangunks. They're pronounced Shon-gum. Any pronunciation sounds vweird.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 12, 2026 06:42 PM (WOnE5)
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Is it Mackinac or Mackinaw? Michigan says "Yes."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (ZOv7s)
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It's obvious this mental case, Candace Owens, is not reevaluating her stance on any of the ludicrous things she's said and been confronted with as having been completely wrong. No mea culpa, showing she at least has some integrity, is going to be forthcoming. She's actually gotten more and more combative...or in her pronunciation, "cobmative." What a loon.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (qBdHI)
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Had to do a "project" in Lake Mohopic. Rich dude, big kitchen install. That's where Gualliani was sending the NYC homeless. The rooms were full, because in a whisper (we have alot of homeless).
Posted by: pahound at August 12, 2026 06:50 PM (AjR4+)
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When I was a sprout, I read John Hershey's novel, The War Lover. The chick's name is Penelope. I had no idea how to pronounce it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fear Me! at August 12, 2026 06:51 PM (ndZc7)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 12, 2026 06:51 PM (VQ0bX)
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220 I find 30-06 in a decently weighted rifle more pleasant in recoil than firing 12 gauge slugs from a shotgun, ceteris paribus.
doubtless pronounced "chartreus microbus".
doubtless pronounced "chartreus microbus".
Posted by: anachronda at August 12, 2026 07:10 PM (sGtp+)
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Ace! She offered the defense team her theory of maroon shirts/khaki pants!!!
What is wrong with the defense team not wanting her help?
Why is she scared to debate this guy? Because she's full of it? Pathetic weirdo.
What is wrong with the defense team not wanting her help?
Why is she scared to debate this guy? Because she's full of it? Pathetic weirdo.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 12, 2026 07:27 PM (hzuYO)
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Is it Mackinac or Mackinaw? Michigan says "Yes."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (ZOv7s)
We have a local river that starts out is "LaCreole" and ends up at the Willamette as "Rickreall"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 12, 2026 06:47 PM (ZOv7s)
We have a local river that starts out is "LaCreole" and ends up at the Willamette as "Rickreall"
Posted by: Kindltot at August 12, 2026 07:57 PM (rbvCR)
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