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Monday Night ONT - August 10, 2026 [TRex]

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Good evening Horde. The time has come for Monday shenanigans. The bar is open and freshly re-stocked. A&W Rootbeer for everyone tonight!

Welcome to the Monday night ONT which means vintage overnight fun and games. Pull up a chair and join the fun. Good will offerings of amusing puns are encouraged. Be nice to your fellow commenters and AoS contributors. Pants are optional. This ONT is a Tucker, Candace, Megyn, and Bill Kristol free zone. Fauci is fair game.

[Top photo: If AOP lived in Pie Town, New Mexico in 1940, this would have been him. I'm more surprised to learn there is a town in New Mexico named after pie, but the place is reportedly famous for its homemade pies. If you're going to be known for something, it might as well be pies, right?]

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The Monday ONT has dialed up the wayback machine tonight with very random results.

Giant Forest, Sequoia National Park - July 1935. No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.

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Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad Locomotive 470 - date unknown.

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Dime Savings Bank at the intersection of Woodward Avenue and Willis Street, Detroit, Michigan - circa 1910-1912

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Dixie Bottling Works on Lee Street in Bristol, Virginia (the town that straddles the Tennessee and Virginia state line) - 1915

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Horse drawn tram in Berzelii park, Stockholm, Sweden - circa 1900. Can anyone pronounce the word on the front of the tram?

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Independence National Historical Park in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - 1980

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Please do not molest the bears at Sequoia National Park (or anywhere else for that matter)

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Baldwin Chevrolet in Baldwin, Long Island, New York - 1968. Anyone know what the "Fantastic Five" means without looking it up?

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Can't find any evidence that Jo Jo's Kountry Kitchen in Camden, Alabama is still open. Anyone know the place?

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Apparently smoking while riding the Merry Go Round was a thing at the fair in Rutland, Vermont in 1941.

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1943 WWII Army Ground Forces Training Film - "How to get killed in one easy lesson."

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You want music in your ONT?

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This ONT was brought to you by shopping, the old fashioned way:

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Correspondence can be sent to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com where it will be promptly misfiled. I see nothing! I hear nothing! I know nothing!

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:00 PM




Comments

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1 Mmmm. Pies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:00 PM (u/oMr)

2
USA
travel advisory
STAY ALERT!


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 10:01 PM (Pee1E)

3 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 10:01 PM (VfaaV)

4
Is TRex's wife TRegina?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:02 PM (O0L8i)

5 "Fantastic Four" plus 25%?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2026 10:02 PM (l4RKn)

6 One look at the top pic and I guessed the mystery click. Thanks for the ONT TRex

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (wFoR+)

7 They’re here!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (gxRWI)

8 "Well, your account has achieved 10 cents. Our work here is done."

Here's your toaster.

Posted by: The Dime Savings Bank at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (u/oMr)

9 Has AOP seen any Studebaker Scotsmen?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

10 Your Honor I could not have raped and abused all those women.

Because during the infractions I self-identified as a woman. Or I could be classified as a "Male Lesbian".

I demand a retrial on this basis ..........

Posted by: Harvey Weinstine at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (8lUeo)

11 Hey everyone!

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at August 10, 2026 10:04 PM (AfOoj)

12 I would guess the "Fantastic Five" are the five 427 Chevys listed to the right of that slogan - Camero, Chevelle, Chevrolet, Corvette, and Chevy II

Posted by: KCSteve at August 10, 2026 10:04 PM (2+WvJ)

13 ONT

it's for me

Posted by: Otto Penn at August 10, 2026 10:06 PM (JHVDg)

14 Is that a Chevy Malibu?

Posted by: Don Black at August 10, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)

15 The Rock Island Line is a mighty fine line.
The Rock Island road is the road to ride.

Posted by: Leadbelly at August 10, 2026 10:06 PM (u/oMr)

16 Is the "Fantastic Five" by any chance the five muscle cars listed to the immediate right?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2026 10:06 PM (vTZFs)

17 @ Baldwin Auto

Posted by: Don Black at August 10, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)

18 6 One look at the top pic and I guessed the mystery click. Thanks for the ONT TRex

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM
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Well done! There were a few options but that one seemed to fit the need.

Posted by: TRex - fabulous five dino at August 10, 2026 10:07 PM (XfIK1)

19 Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Was at Muir Woods National Forest yesterday 😊

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at August 10, 2026 10:08 PM (S7WXb)

20 Ahhhh, the ONT. Thank you Mr. Rex!

Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:08 PM (BJzO2)

21 Yo Dino! Howdy, Horde.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at August 10, 2026 10:09 PM (szQVU)

22 Always wondered why the closing credits of HH had a US peaked cap over a pickelhaube instead of the stahlhelm.

I guess they didn't want to show the Wehrmacht insignia.

Interesting factoid: Hitler's pickelhaube could still be around. All were supposed to be surrendered at the end of WWI. Who knows, maybe it's still out there in someone's garage.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

23 One look at the top pic and I guessed the mystery click. Thanks for the ONT TRex

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM
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Well done! There were a few options but that one seemed to fit the need.
Posted by: TRex - fabulous five dino at August 10, 2026 10:07 PM (XfIK1)

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Yup. Good choice. I have the CD.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2026 10:09 PM (2WIwB)

24 Throatwobbler Mangrove

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2026 10:10 PM (Cqx++)

25
Your Honor I could not have raped and abused all those women.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstine

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I raped 30 women in 35 days, all while suffering a broken penis!

Posted by: Dark Jason Arday at August 10, 2026 10:10 PM (mmrXZ)

26 Re: Pietown

Definitely a better town name than, say, "Explosive Dysentery Town".

Re: molesting wildlife

At one time that's the term Alaska Statutes used (or maybe still uses).

I know this because a guy I used to know got caught using the Spenard Sportfishing technique (bashing salmon with rocks then wading out to pick them up). The charge was "molesting wildlife", which I gather provided a great deal of amusement for the other guys on the chain when they were brought in for arraignment the next morning.

As he told the tale, several of them caught contempt charges because they couldn't stop laughing.

Seen on X: Super Mario 64 joins the War on Terror

https://tinyurl.com/aw6kch5z

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2026 10:10 PM (IG3/x)

27 Evening, TRex, and ONT Horde. I think I passed through Pie Town, NM, once. I do have a chain block very similar to the one pictured, although the one I routinely use is more modern. The car might be an early '30's Chevy. Not a Ford, for sure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:11 PM (1z8ji)

28 I would guess the "Fantastic Five" are the five 427 Chevys listed to the right of that slogan - Camero, Chevelle, Chevrolet, Corvette, and Chevy II

Now that you made me actually go back and read it, I'm not sure why "Chevrolet" is in that list of model names. IIRC, there was an Impala SS. Can't think of any other SS models offhand.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM (vTZFs)

29 20 Ahhhh, the ONT. Thank you Mr. Rex!
Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:08 PM

21 Yo Dino! Howdy, Horde.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at August 10, 2026 10:09 PM
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Good evening, Gents! Great to "see" you.

Posted by: TRex - sequoia guide dino at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM (XfIK1)

30 Djurgårdens is an island in Stockholm. They just abbreviated it. So 'Djurgårdens line' . Wiki pronounces it 'Djurgorden' .

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM (diia5)

31 Anyone know what the "Fantastic Five" means without looking it up?
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Isn't it in the window to the right of the Fantastic Five sign?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM (aWBmH)

32 . No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.


The horses were probably wondering the same thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2026 10:13 PM (2WIwB)

33 >
I raped 30 women in 35 days, all while suffering a broken penis!
Posted by: Dark Jason Arday at August 10, 2026 10:10 PM (mmrXZ)


I once banged 75 out of 100 candidates for showcase model on The Price is Right before taking a break.

After lunch, which consisted of five pounds of prime rib and a bottle of Jack Daniels, I returned and finished off the other 25.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Barker at August 10, 2026 10:13 PM (IG3/x)

34 Has AOP seen any Studebaker Scotsmen?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

I have seen them, never owned one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:13 PM (1z8ji)

35 4
Is TRex's wife TRegina?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:02 PM (O0L8i)

good one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2026 10:13 PM (0CU3H)

36 > Anyone know what the "Fantastic Five" means without looking it up?

I thought that was you call it when Jessica Alba gives you a handy.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2026 10:14 PM (IG3/x)

37
Hogan's Heroes pilot episode intro:

https://youtu.be/zJfSI4cKWLY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2026 10:14 PM (Cqx++)

38 Interesting factoid: Hitler's pickelhaube could still be around. All were supposed to be surrendered at the end of WWI. Who knows, maybe it's still out there in someone's garage.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

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Some guy in Brazil is suing the state because a crooked cop swiped his Luger Parabellum that was owned by Schickelgruber. He claims it's worth $42 million.

It wasn't the Hitler Killer, since that was a Walther PPK, and it disappeared in the chaos that reigned in the Bunker after Der Fuhrer offed himself. That one would be worth a pretty penny if you could establish its provenance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)

39 Yay, ONT!

And Rootbeer! Having one right now, in fact.

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:15 PM (rdVOm)

40 Your Honor I could not have raped and abused all those women.

Because during the infractions I self-identified as a woman. Or I could be classified as a "Male Lesbian".

I demand a retrial on this basis ..........

Posted by: Harvey Weinstine at August 10, 2026 10:03 PM (8lUeo)


Why not just say that you identify as having received consent?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2026 10:16 PM (ExV1e)

41 Now that you made me actually go back and read it, I'm not sure why "Chevrolet" is in that list of model names. IIRC, there was an Impala SS. Can't think of any other SS models offhand.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM
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The secret of the "Fabulous Five" was that customers ordered a car through Baldwin Chevrolet who took delivery and then gave it to Motion Performance around the corner for upgrades. The customer got a more special car than what came from the factory.

Posted by: TRex - special order dino at August 10, 2026 10:16 PM (XfIK1)

42 Rubber mulch baldwin ? freeport?

Posted by: vizzy at August 10, 2026 10:17 PM (qwdJy)

43 Hitler's pickelhaube could still be around.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

It's my understanding that Herr Hitler only had one pickelhaube. That's what led to his feelings of inadequacy and thus, desire to conquer the world.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 10:17 PM (VfaaV)

44 Do not molest the bears.... heh.

https://youtu.be/nC8DIWFBwkI

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at August 10, 2026 10:19 PM (szQVU)

45 Yay, ONT!

And Rootbeer! Having one right now, in fact.
Posted by: JQ

Man, a rootbeer float sounds simply divine....

Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:19 PM (BJzO2)

46 *Makes rootbeer float for Some Rat*

Cheers!

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:20 PM (rdVOm)

47
Some Rat! Howya, howya??

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:22 PM (O0L8i)

48
Black cherry float >>> Root beer float

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:23 PM (O0L8i)

49 The car might be an early '30's Chevy. Not a Ford, for sure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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And a real bumper.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 10:23 PM (Pee1E)

50 I was just thinking about a root beer float.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2026 10:24 PM (2WIwB)

51 Pretty wicked '67 chevelle in that picture.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:24 PM (S41Gd)

52 Cheers!
Posted by: JQ

Tell you what, the Horde and in particular the ONT will restore ones faith in humanity.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (BJzO2)

53 You'd have to be a cheep bastard like me to special order a Scotsman.

Posted by: Wearing A Cardboard Belt at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (JM9I6)

54 Pie Town NM has a plethora of good pie choices, I can attest

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (sfRCM)

55 Black cherry float >>> Root beer float
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

LOL. I have an assortment of Henry Weinhard's "gourmet" sodas... Black cherry does indeed make an excellent float!

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (rdVOm)

56 Who knew that Suicide by Bear has been a problem for a century (or more)?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 10:26 PM (qx7Zg)

57 "Horse drawn tram in Berzelii park, Stockholm, Sweden - circa 1900. Can anyone pronounce the word on the front of the tram?"
- - - - - - - - - - - -
If you can, you're probably already a victim of Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (4h45B)

58 54 Pie Town NM has a plethora of good pie choices, I can attest

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (sfRCM)
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Special agent Dale Cooper has entered the chat

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (JfNq6)

59 The 1915 Dixie Coke Bottles would be worth a good bit today.

Posted by: In A Privy at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (JM9I6)

60 Anytime I ever see pictures of mechanics from the 30's and 40's they always look like they lived in the dirt.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (S41Gd)

61 Hogan's Heros Fun Fact: They kept fake snow on the sets at all times to make it look like Winter and to avoid having to deal with continuity problems caused by Southern California's weather.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (ChwKX)

62 You'd have to be a cheep bastard like me to special order a Scotsman.
Posted by: Wearing A Cardboard Belt at August 10, 2026 10:25 PM (JM9I6)

I expect most of the Scotsman sales were fleet orders.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (1z8ji)

63 That one would be worth a pretty penny if you could establish its provenance.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)


Look for the gold-chased PPK with teeth marks. And blood pitting.

(Friend refinished a suicide revolver for an estate. It was not a good job, though the Parkerization turned out nice)

Posted by: Kindltot - I also dyed AOC's eggs and hid them across the White House lawn at August 10, 2026 10:28 PM (rbvCR)

64 Is TRex's wife TRegina?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:02 PM (O0L8i)

good one.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
*******
Not sure I get the reference, but if you are meaning the latin meaning, ie Queen, then I gladly accept it!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:28 PM (XfIK1)

65 51 Pretty wicked '67 chevelle in that picture.

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My first ride was a '68 El Camino. Had the Chevelle front half with a 327, Edelbrock manifold and four-barrel carb, headers and glass packs. It was my baby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:28 PM (u/oMr)

66 Anytime I ever see pictures of mechanics from the 30's and 40's they always look like they lived in the dirt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Probably some of them actually did-- dirt floor shacks were not uncommon then.

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

67 I expect most of the Scotsman sales were fleet orders.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

What about us?

Posted by: Norwegian Bachelor Farmers at August 10, 2026 10:29 PM (JM9I6)

68 Anytime I ever see pictures of mechanics from the 30's and 40's they always look like they lived in the dirt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Probably some of them actually did-- dirt floor shacks were not uncommon then.

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

They always look dusty and crusty.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:30 PM (S41Gd)

69 Goood eeeeev'ning. [Alfred Hitchcock theme] Would have been here sooner but I wasn't.

A time-traveling ONT. How… anachronistic. (Or something. Just wanted to use that word.

Can anyone pronounce the word on the front of the tram?

Sure: Djurgardslinien, just like it's spelled.

Posted by: mindful webworker - somewhere in the top 100 at August 10, 2026 10:30 PM (9wnX8)

70 Love the pictures, especially the first.My family garage business, opened in 1918 as a chauffeurs garage, back when cars needed almost daily upkeep.
Those planks on the floor probably removable, to a pit for under engine servicing.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 10, 2026 10:31 PM (sl73Y)

71 Some Rat! What a pleasure to see you in the gray boxes...we do need to catch up soon....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:31 PM (XfIK1)

72 It's not molestation if the bears consent.

Posted by: Horny Bears in the Area Want to Meet You at August 10, 2026 10:31 PM (gFTHm)

73 My first ride was a '68 El Camino. Had the Chevelle front half with a 327, Edelbrock manifold and four-barrel carb, headers and glass packs. It was my baby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:28 PM (u/oMr)

Those were pretty cool. One dude at one of the local cruise nights has one. Blue with a big block.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:31 PM (S41Gd)

74 Anytime I ever see pictures of mechanics from the 30's and 40's they always look like they lived in the dirt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (S41Gd)


Grandpa was a gas station owner and was his own mechanic. Dad said they went on vacation for a week when he was a kid, and broke the car axle on the way back home. Even though Grandpa was able to walk down from where it broke down to a garage that had one in stock, he cussed the entire time since it was the first time his hands had been completely clean for years.

Posted by: Kindltot - I also dyed AOC's eggs and hid them across the White House lawn at August 10, 2026 10:32 PM (rbvCR)

75 I raped 30 women in 35 days, all while suffering a broken penis!
Posted by: Dark Jason Arday
......

If by women, you mean men, I believe you.

Posted by: wth at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (oq9dX)

76 Howya, howya??
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I am VERY slowly getting some relief, just finished the first go around with the infusion treatment....the docs have kinda given up on the "let's fix this" to "we are just trying to slow the spread"....

Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (BJzO2)

77 Thanks for the dandy Monday Night ONT, T Rex!

A&W is the onlyest root beer suitable for consumption. Says this small-town girl who grew up with A&W only available from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

Actually went through Pie Town, NM once. After getting a gander at the place, was reluctant to stop for pie...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (D/6p1)

78 "Anyone know what the "Fantastic Five" means without looking it up?"

Probably been answered already, but I would presume it referred to Camero, Chevelle, Chevrolet, Corvette, Chevy, right there on the next window.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 'alllll too easy' at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (9wnX8)

79 Sorry, was working on manuscript.

I have seen them, never owned one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:13 PM (1z8ji)

I've never heard of them until a "Hub Cap Club" vid showed up on YT a couple of hours ago. Made a Scotsman Champ, too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

80 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 10, 2026 10:34 PM (sAmhv)

81 61 Hogan's Heros Fun Fact: They kept fake snow on the sets at all times to make it look like Winter and to avoid having to deal with continuity problems caused by Southern California's weather.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (ChwKX)

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FUNNER FACT: Stalag 13 was a stone's throw from Mayberry on the Desilu lot in Culver City, just east of LAX and northeast of Marina Del Rey. You could walk out the front gate of the prison camp and be at Floyd's Barber Shop in minutes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:34 PM (u/oMr)

82 They always look dusty and crusty.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Lack of plentiful fresh water (and go-jo hadn't been invented yet)... Welcome to the Great Depression.

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:34 PM (rdVOm)

83 Can anyone pronounce the word on the front of the tram?

Yes. Maybe.

Posted by: GWB at August 10, 2026 10:34 PM (kU0PQ)

84 It wasn't the Hitler Killer, since that was a Walther PPK, and it disappeared in the chaos that reigned in the Bunker after Der Fuhrer offed himself. That one would be worth a pretty penny if you could establish its provenance.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)

Supposedly tossed into a river according to Mark Felton.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:34 PM (1Ff7Z)

85
I raped 30 women in 35 days, all while suffering a broken penis!
Posted by: Dark Jason Arday at August 10, 2026 10:10 PM (mmrXZ)


I once banged 75 out of 100 candidates for showcase model on The Price is Right before taking a break.

After lunch, which consisted of five pounds of prime rib and a bottle of Jack Daniels, I returned and finished off the other 25.
Posted by: Zombie Bob Barker

====================

I wonder what's keeping Tankdemon tonight.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (mmrXZ)

86 77 Thanks for the dandy Monday Night ONT, T Rex!

Actually went through Pie Town, NM once. After getting a gander at the place, was reluctant to stop for pie...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM
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Good evening LS! Maybe Club ONT needs to start serving pie...

Posted by: TRex - piece of pie dino at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (XfIK1)

87 Hogan's Heroes pilot episode intro:

https://youtu.be/zJfSI4cKWLY
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2026 10:14 PM (Cqx++)

Worked with a guy whose father was Robert Hogan. According to his family lore, Hogan's Heroes was supposed to be his project, but the network wanted Bob Crane in the lead instead. I think Mr. Hogan appeared in a few episodes. He also played a helicopter pilot in a MASH episode.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (nbLIj)

88 Ewan McTeagle drove a Scotsman, of course.

Posted by: Radio/Heater Delete at August 10, 2026 10:36 PM (JM9I6)

89 A&W is the onlyest root beer suitable for consumption. Says this small-town girl who grew up with A&W only available from Memorial Day to Labor Day.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient
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1000%! We always stopped there when Dad had a softball game, was just the best treat!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:36 PM (XfIK1)

90 >>Hogan's Heros Fun Fact: They kept fake snow on the sets at all times to make it look like Winter and to avoid having to deal with continuity problems caused by Southern California's weather.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM

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Most of the fake snow was white paint.

Posted by: Bigsmith at August 10, 2026 10:36 PM (1Au9i)

91 Blast from the Past ONT. Thanks, TRex - and The Grateful for letting out to play.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 10:37 PM (qx7Zg)

92 I expect most of the Scotsman sales were fleet orders.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:27 PM (1z8ji)

I don't know, but the vid said sales "saved" S-P's '57-'58s cash flow.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:37 PM (1Ff7Z)

93 Those old photos remind me of the family reunion I just attended. The past is so fascinating! But I am more than happy to live in the present, with the present-day technology and comforts.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 10, 2026 10:37 PM (D/6p1)

94 Giant Forest, Sequoia National Park - July 1935. No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.

Because they could!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 10:37 PM (gxRWI)

95 Lack of plentiful fresh water (and go-jo hadn't been invented yet)... Welcome to the Great Depression.
Posted by: JQ

Lava soap....like washing ones hands with 40 grit sandpaper.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (BJzO2)

96 There is a fucking souped up Subaru that is sitting in the drive lane of our apartment complex's parking lot for 30 fucking minutes. Plenty of parking spots available, but no, fuckwit needs to be right on the middle of the fucking drive lane.

Why? Who the fuck knows?

What am I gonna do about it?

Nothing, except make sure my tools are close to hand.

I fucking hate living in this part of town sometimes. Troons and vatos all around me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (0aYVJ)

97 Sorry I'm late, my kite got stuck in a tree. So I tried throwing my shoe at it to knock it down, when my shoe got stuck. So I had my cat climb up to fetch the shoe. Note to self: Cats are not good at fetch. Or extricating themselves from trees. Hopefully my brother-in-law with the ladder will be here soon.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 10:39 PM (PMi3m)

98 I'm more of a fan of Birch Beer than Root Beer. Getting damn hard to find on tap. There used to be a couple of places in Reading and Kutztown Pa where one could buy pony kegs of it. I haven't checked in years.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 10:39 PM (VfaaV)

99 I wonder what's keeping Tankdemon tonight.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (mmrXZ)

Number 101 had a headache?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:39 PM (1Ff7Z)

100
Troons and vatos all around me.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (0aYVJ)

____________

*whispers in bewilderment*

What's a vato?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:39 PM (O0L8i)

101 In re: bears- could you specify what you mean by "molest"? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 10:40 PM (PMi3m)

102 Gun toys.

If, today, anyone saw a gang of kids running around the neighborhood playing 'war' as we did, uh, a long time ago, they would call in the SWAT squad

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:40 PM (XeU6L)

103 No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.
......

MAGA women stomping on Mother Gaia.

Posted by: wth at August 10, 2026 10:40 PM (oq9dX)

104 I have a bumper hitch that fit on those cars from the 30's with the flat bumpers. Henry Ford had this idea of having harley build what eventually became the servi-car, which was a 3 wheel trike with a harley flathead engine. You might recognize them as the old 3 wheel things that ice cream vendors used. Ford's original purpose was to have ford mechanics show up at your home or place of work, use a bumper hitch designed for the servi-car that clamped around the bumper. and then they could tow your car in for service and then deliver it back to you. Ford, fucking scumbag that he was, kept changing specs and requirements for the servi-car hoping that it would bankrupt harley so he could buy the company for pennies. Harley said fuck you henry, and produced it how they liked it, marketed it themselves, and told ford to eat shit. I have one of those special hitches. It has the harley emblem on it and fits the model A's and some of the later cars.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 10:40 PM (S41Gd)

105 1000%! We always stopped there when Dad had a softball game, was just the best treat!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:36 PM (XfIK1)

I didn't know you were from the Lodi/Stockton area!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (1Ff7Z)

106 Chain hoists work well. Ya hafta go through about 5000 feet to raise something a half an inch though. Pack a lunch.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (3ElP1)

107 5 cars with a 427

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (wxsGM)

108
I'm more of a fan of Birch Beer than Root Beer.

___________

Birch beer, root beer, sarsaparilla. All good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (O0L8i)

109 Had a bear wander through the front yard this evening.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (XeU6L)

110 What do you get if you cross a bear and a mountain lion?

Killed. You get killed.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)

111 "No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia."

Because nobody had bored a tunnel through it yet.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (PMi3m)

112 I've never heard of them until a "Hub Cap Club" vid showed up on YT a couple of hours ago. Made a Scotsman Champ, too.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

Well, they didn't make a Scotsman Champ. The entire Scotsman line went away when the Lark model was introduced. They did make Scotsman pickups in '58 - '59, and they were basically throwbacks to the early '50's models. The Champ pickup was introduced in 1960, and its cab was based on the front half of a Lark 4-door sedan. They should have used a 2-door sedan; the longer doors would have made for a much roomier cab.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (1z8ji)

113 Troons and vatos all around me.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (0aYVJ)

Like I said to T'Regina: I didn't know you were from the Lodi/Stockton area!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:43 PM (1Ff7Z)

114 Other coast OrangeEnt, as in NYS

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:44 PM (XfIK1)

115 5 cars with a 427
Posted by: Hokey Pokey
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I do not recall a 427 Chevy II. I'm dubious that it was a production item.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:44 PM (XeU6L)

116 Well, they didn't make a Scotsman Champ.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (1z8ji)

That's what the presenter called it. I never heard of those either.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:45 PM (1Ff7Z)

117 "Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again" - Lodi, NJ, I could understand that . . . sorry CBD

Posted by: Patches at August 10, 2026 10:45 PM (338iJ)

118 111 "No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia."

Because nobody had bored a tunnel through it yet.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (PMi3m)

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I miss the days when guys would discover a spectacular natural wonder, alive from the time of Christ, and they'd cut a hole so you could drive a jalopy through it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:46 PM (u/oMr)

119 Other coast OrangeEnt, as in NYS
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:44 PM (XfIK1)

Oh, they got that far? Did they use the Great Root Bear mascot, too?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

120 Ford's original purpose was to have ford mechanics show up at your home or place of work, use a bumper hitch designed for the servi-car that clamped around the bumper.
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I recall this occuring with one of the family cars.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (XeU6L)

121 I do not recall a 427 Chevy II. I'm dubious that it was a production item.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:44 PM
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Read my comment number 41.

Posted by: TRex - Motion Performance Dino at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (XfIK1)

122 Killed. You get killed.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)
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What do you get when you cross a dance floor with a beautiful girl?

Engaged. You get engaged.

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (Ws+88)

123 What's a vato?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:39 PM (O0L8i)

A kind of slang term for young men of Hispanic descent. It's not really derogatory. I do see far fewer vatos here than I did in Colorado.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:48 PM (0aYVJ)

124 The secret of the "Fabulous Five" was that customers ordered a car through Baldwin Chevrolet who took delivery and then gave it to Motion Performance around the corner for upgrades. The customer got a more special car than what came from the factory.
Posted by: TRex - special order dino at August 10, 2026 10:16 PM (XfIK1)

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Yeah who needs a factory warranty?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:48 PM (u/oMr)

125 There was a mule deer in my yard the other day, resting in the shade. (It was one of those 105* days)

Not exactly a rare sight for my area, but it's been years since any have been *in the yard*

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 10:49 PM (rdVOm)

126 Other coast OrangeEnt, as in NYS
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:44 PM (XfIK1)
Oh, they got that far? Did they use the Great Root Bear mascot, too?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Not sure about that. It was a drive up, where the servers came out to the cars to take and deliver your orders...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:49 PM (XfIK1)

127 I recall this occuring with one of the family cars.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (XeU6L)

Good luck towing the thing with a Servi-Car if the the car in question has a wheel or chassis-related issue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

128 Maybe Club ONT needs to start serving pie...
Posted by: TRex - piece of pie dino at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (XfIK1)
* * * *
Now, THAT'S an idea! You suppose CBD bakes pies?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 10, 2026 10:50 PM (D/6p1)

129 Lava soap....like washing ones hands with 40 grit sandpaper.
Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (BJzO2)


Yes, that’s the point.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 10:51 PM (gxRWI)

130 No true Scotsman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2026 10:51 PM (Cqx++)

131 Ralphie's teacher died.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:51 PM (0aYVJ)

132 131 Ralphie's teacher died.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at August 10, 2026 10:51 PM (0aYVJ)

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*somber chant*

You'll shoot your eye out
You'll shoot your eye out

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 10:52 PM (u/oMr)

133 Lava soap....like washing ones hands with 40 grit sandpaper.
Posted by: Some Rat at August 10,

Followed by a gasoline handwash for the grease the lava couldn't get.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 10, 2026 10:52 PM (sl73Y)

134 Maybe Club ONT needs to start serving pie...
Posted by: TRex - piece of pie dino at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (XfIK1)
* * * *
Now, THAT'S an idea! You suppose CBD bakes pies?
Posted by: Legally Sufficient
******
This is Brilliant! And I'm sure he bakes pies, he is the host of the Food Thread after all!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at August 10, 2026 10:53 PM (XfIK1)

135 I might be wrong on some of this but I think the collector term for those Chevy's is COPO cars, for central office production order, required to get the 427 in mid size and smaller cars, at least @1969 iirc. There were a few dealers who specialized in it. Baldwin-Motion and Yenko are the 2 I can bring to mind right now. Somewhat valuable cars to say the least! Don't think I've seen a real one in person.

Posted by: I really haven't settled on a nic at August 10, 2026 10:54 PM (yTH6b)

136 Somewhat valuable cars to say the least! Don't think I've seen a real one in person.

Posted by: I really haven't settled on a nic at August 10, 2026 10:54 PM (yTH6b)

I remember reading about them in Car Craft and Hot Rod back in the day.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 10:55 PM (dK+Kv)

137 I liked those industrial type shop hand washers. Two or three guys can wash hands simultaneous. (Union sez you get a 5 or 10 minute washup period after work, on the clock, you know)

With foot activation, the water sprayed in an arc pattern. A powdered soap dispenser on top, some cheap stuff, but worked well enough.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2026 10:55 PM (3ElP1)

138 Lava soap....like washing ones hands with 40 grit sandpaper.
Posted by: Some Rat

I we happened into the poison ivy, Grammi would haul your sorry ass down to the creek and scrub the top layers of your skin off with homemade lye soap and handfuls of sand.

Though I must say it prepared me well for my future motorcycle crashes when I ground off large patches of skin.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 10:55 PM (VfaaV)

139 Read my comment number 41.
Posted by: TRex
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Got it. The Baldwin Chevrolet prep of 'specials' comes back to mind now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:56 PM (XeU6L)

140 I think JoJo's Kountry Kitchen lasted about as long as the Bama Bar-b-q.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 10, 2026 10:56 PM (sl73Y)

141 Ford (I think) made these cool enclosed cab tracked snow machines, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2026 10:57 PM (3ElP1)

142 Upon thinking a little more about it, I think the AOC "eggs" thing is very much part of the psy op. What I mean is it fits too neatly and everyone is wondering "wtf", which is a tell.

We are of course in the middle of a top down planned fake birth of a New Democrat Party that is supposedly taking over the old one that has been tortured like a rented mule and then crusted over 20 times. After the takeover or merge, however they do it, questions about the past will take on a new sheen of irrelevance, as it was the old party. And these people are new.

It doesn't matter whether she's intended to be the next nominee or not - what matters is the claim of "new life" in that tired old shitty fake bullshit ass party. Granted we have some Republican "births" happening too, but while we have a president they are attempting to sunset quickly, there is a strong "potential" in eggs, new life and possibilities.

Not unlike this strange new appearance of the DSA on the world political stage. While you were sleeping these kooks were granted Top Billing by our masters, and even while our masters struggle to maintain an arm's length distance that is getting shorter by the moment, and by design.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 10:57 PM (vE0+H)

143
Could the horses on top of the fallen Sequoia be a trick photo, and they're really on the dirt slope in back of the log? Either that, or there's a hidden ramp in back of the log.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 10, 2026 10:58 PM (VWtfl)

144
Lava soap....like washing ones hands with 40 grit sandpaper.
Posted by: Some Rat at August 10, 2026 10:38 PM (BJzO2)

_________

Oh, Lord. In my teens my skin was appalling, like a pepperoni pizza. It was the ruin of my life. I'd wash it with some abrasive soap that made Lava feel like Dove.

Nothing worked. I had to outgrow it. But the years I should have spent learning social skills, meeting girls and so on were lost. And I never made the deficiencies up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 10:58 PM (O0L8i)

145 Somewhat valuable cars to say the least! Don't think I've seen a real one in person.
Posted by: I really haven't settled on a nic at August 10, 2026 10:54 PM (yTH6b)

I saw a COPO Camaro in a guy's barn up in the Peace Country of Northern Alberta, and no, it was not for sale. He knew its value.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji)

146 My apologies for my length.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 10:59 PM (vE0+H)

147 My apologies for my length.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 10:59 PM (vE0+H)

Are you channeling The Paolo?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 11:00 PM (qx7Zg)

148 I can get you a close approximation of pi on the internet, but I don’t know about pie.

π = 3. 1415926535897932384626433…

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 11:00 PM (gxRWI)

149 146 My apologies for my length.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 10:59 PM (vE0+H)

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The Paolo, he never, how do you say, apologize for the length.

Posted by: The Paolo at August 10, 2026 11:01 PM (u/oMr)

150 Not exactly Pie Town, New Mexico in 1940 ...

but ...

if you're driving on I-17 and go past Black Canyon City, stop at the Rock Springs Cafe for some might fine pie!

Alas, no longer for me with the diabetes.

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at August 10, 2026 11:01 PM (3ZUWJ)

151 Not unlike this strange new appearance of the DSA on the world political stage.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 10:57 PM (vE0+H)

Kind of dovetails with the new manly man skin suit DSA/DNC are wearing about to keep the centrists on the plantation, too.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 11:01 PM (dK+Kv)

152 Are you channeling The Paolo?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 11:00 PM (qx7Zg)

Paolo does not allow anyone in his, how you say, channel.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:01 PM (vE0+H)

153 Good luck towing the thing with a Servi-Car if the the car in question has a wheel or chassis-related issue.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Ostensibly, the auto was operable...just needed service of some kind, even just an oil change. Service guy rode the trike to the car and hitched trike to the rear with a clamp-on hitch, drove car to service center. Reverse to deliver car to owner, then trike back to shop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:02 PM (XeU6L)

154 135 I might be wrong on some of this but I think the collector term for those Chevy's is COPO cars, for central office production order

Posted by: I really haven't settled on a nic at August 10, 2026 10:54 PM
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I *think* that Baldwin and Yenko ordered and sold COPO cars, but the Baldwin/Motion Performance cars were not COPO cars. They were normal factory stock cars that were heavily modified.

Posted by: TRex - automotive archive dino at August 10, 2026 11:02 PM (XfIK1)

155 Could the horses on top of the fallen Sequoia be a trick photo, and they're really on the dirt slope in back of the log? Either that, or there's a hidden ramp in back of the log.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 10, 2026 10:58 PM (VWtfl)
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I'm with you on this one. There seems to be a gap between the fallen log and whatever the horses are standing on. I've been on a horse that was up on a rock ledge and know not how anyone could get those horses on top of the sequoia without a heckuva fight. At the very least!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 10, 2026 11:02 PM (D/6p1)

156 My apologies for my length.
Posted by: ...
......

That's what I told her at the picnic.

Posted by: wth at August 10, 2026 11:02 PM (oq9dX)

157 I can get you a close approximation of pi on the internet, but I don’t know about pie.

π = 3. 1415926535897932384626433…
Posted by: Nemo
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That's irrational.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:03 PM (XeU6L)

158 I wonder what's keeping Tankdemon tonight.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2026 10:35 PM (mmrXZ)

My brother-in-law finally showed up with the ladder. Unfortunately, the kite was not really recoverable, and the cat was in no mood to be grabbed from its perch. I'll have to put some iodine on some scratches later. My shoe, however, was no worse for the wear, so that's something, I guess.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 11:04 PM (PMi3m)

159 141 Ford (I think) made these cool enclosed cab tracked snow machines, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2026 10:57 PM (3ElP1)
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I don't know about Ford, but I drove an old Morton Thiokol snow-cat back in the late 80s. It was sturdy and steady, but not built for speed

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 11:06 PM (ymrLq)

160 My brother-in-law finally showed up with the ladder. Unfortunately, the kite was not really recoverable, and the cat was in no mood to be grabbed from its perch. I'll have to put some iodine on some scratches later. My shoe, however, was no worse for the wear, so that's something, I guess.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 11:04 PM (PMi3m)

The problem calls for a chain saw.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:06 PM (1z8ji)

161 I recall this occuring with one of the family cars.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:47 PM (XeU6L)

Good luck towing the thing with a Servi-Car if the the car in question has a wheel or chassis-related issue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

It was for basic service. Tune up, oil change, etc

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 11:06 PM (S41Gd)

162 The problem calls for a chain saw.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:06 PM (1z8ji)

If it doesn't call for a chainsaw, is it really even a problem?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 10, 2026 11:07 PM (PMi3m)

163 I don't know about Ford, but I drove an old Morton Thiokol snow-cat back in the late 80s. It was sturdy and steady, but not built for speed
Posted by: 496
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Probably a couple of rocket boosters would have fixed that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:08 PM (XeU6L)

164 Kind of dovetails with the new manly man skin suit DSA/DNC are wearing about to keep the centrists on the plantation, too.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 11:01 PM (dK+Kv)

It does indeed. Masculinity "equals" strength. They are trying to project strength - and a mostly unapologetic DSA will very suddenly get that done.

All a dumb population (mostly) wants is a strong leader. Hence Trump. They are replicating what Trump did in 2016 but this time as a "movement" - with no nominal leader it stays diffuse and difficult to attack or brand.

By keeping it as two sides "fighting" they get to slither around every criticism and message around any problem. Any criticism of the establishment by Republicans is addressed by the radicals, and any criticism of the radicals is addressed by the establishment. Any criticism really, automatically supports the Democrats. Like Cucky Schumer just said, "it's a big tent". This has been well thought out.

Mark my words, though - Trump will get a say.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:08 PM (vE0+H)

165 102 Gun toys.

If, today, anyone saw a gang of kids running around the neighborhood playing 'war' as we did, uh, a long time ago, they would call in the SWAT squad
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 10:40 PM (XeU6L)

Just imagine what would happen if kids were playing with black powder cannons like we did. Holy hell.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:08 PM (5JJx4)

166 We had a circular wash fountain in the ladies' room at work-- 6 or 8 of us could all scrub at the same time, and easily get clean up to elbows. Foot-activated, of course. Powdered Boraxo and bars of Lava soap handy.

Then, somebody decided to remodel the restroom-- they replaced that magnificent wash station with 2 puny little lavatory sinks. Dispensers for go-jo and liquid hand soap (that were not promptly refilled when empty) Pfft.

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 11:09 PM (rdVOm)

167 Ostensibly, the auto was operable...just needed service of some kind, even just an oil change. Service guy rode the trike to the car and hitched trike to the rear with a clamp-on hitch, drove car to service center. Reverse to deliver car to owner, then trike back to shop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:02 PM (XeU6L)

Yup, that was exactly it. I had that hitch for years and never knew what it was for. I figured it out about 20 years ago when I just happened to read an article about it. I was like holy shit, I have that hitch. I only kept it because of the harley emblem on the knob that tightens the clamp.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2026 11:10 PM (S41Gd)

168 What's a vato?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Thought you were from TX.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 11:10 PM (Pee1E)

169 Just imagine what would happen if kids were playing with black powder cannons like we did. Holy hell.
Posted by: tcn
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Still have my carbide cannon, and, the one that my dad had as a kid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:10 PM (XeU6L)

170 Masculinity "equals" strength.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:08 PM (vE0+H)

Funny. Their idea of masculinity was some nazi, scatophile, rapist.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 11:11 PM (dK+Kv)

171 Might've been just Thiokol. I think it was morton Thiokol though. This was 89, and the machine was 'older'. Anyone know?

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 11:11 PM (TtNb7)

172
Thought you were from TX.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

_________

Live here, but not from here. And I'm a recluse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

173

Funny. Their idea of masculinity was some nazi, scatophile, rapist.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 11:11 PM (dK+Kv)

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And guy who can wank it successfully in a porta-potti shithouse has...


Skills.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 11:13 PM (u/oMr)

174 157 I can get you a close approximation of pi on the internet, but I don’t know about pie.

π = 3. 1415926535897932384626433…
Posted by: Nemo
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That's irrational.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:03 PM (XeU6L)

Pie is what I do. Pi radians determine how much pie you get. I used to get invited to Sunday dinner at my parents' house if I brought pie. I got very good at it.

Apple, raspberry, strawberry, blueberry, chocolate silk, banana cream, chess, pumpkin, cranberry walnut, mincemeat, blueberry dream, lemon shaker, lemon merengue, and the occasional odd chicken pot pie. And others from time to time, but I would need recipes for them. I don't for any of the above.

You will have to fight with DH over the number of pi radians you receive. He may eat all of it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:14 PM (5JJx4)

175 "Just imagine what would happen if kids were playing with black powder cannons like we did...."

We didn't have black powder or cannons, but I do recall several of us going through garages and sheds in search of any flammable aerosols. The trick is to find something that makes a spectacular flamethrower yet still has enough propellant to prevent the flame from going back into the can.

Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2026 11:15 PM (Hn9/J)

176 And guy who can wank it successfully in a porta-potti shithouse has...


Skills.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 10, 2026 11:13 PM (u/oMr)

No, he has mental issues. Perhaps an entire subscription.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:15 PM (5JJx4)

177 We had a round wash station like that at the machine shop.
It may have big a bit bigger to accommodate shift workers
it was like a fountain, almost a work of art.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 11:15 PM (Pee1E)

178 enough propellant to prevent the flame from going back into the can.

Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2026 11:15 PM (Hn9/J)
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They're only fingers. You've got more.

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 11:16 PM (TtNb7)

179 Funny. Their idea of masculinity was some nazi, scatophile, rapist.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 10, 2026 11:11 PM (dK+Kv)

It was - but note that the Democrat sex scandals of late were abuse of adult women. Sometimes just in consensual relationships. Very manly abuse of adult women.

I guarantee Swalwell and Shitner both have "other" sex things that wouldn't seem so manly. Even his gay comment was about "dominating" someone which makes us laugh of course at how fucking stupid and gay he is but it was more bs toxic manliness and that's how it reads on the surface. One of the women also reported her feeling when he came inside of her. A thoroughly unnecessary detail other than the fact that it's all part of a big bullshit op.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:16 PM (vE0+H)

180 Black powder cannons involved old rifle bullet casings, a small drill, a block of wood, some serious wire to engage one with the other, powder, projectile, and wood matches. I'm not entirely sure we should have survived as long as we did. But that was one hell of a lot of fun.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:17 PM (5JJx4)

181 Okay that's enough theorizing for one night. See you all on the flip.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:17 PM (vE0+H)

182 >>>Apple, raspberry, strawberry, blueberry, chocolate silk, banana cream, chess, pumpkin, cranberry walnut, mincemeat, blueberry dream, lemon shaker, lemon merengue, and the occasional odd chicken pot pie. And others from time to time, ...
...
Posted by: tcn in AK
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That was a very cruel post.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 11:19 PM (Pee1E)

183 Okay that's enough theorizing for one night. See you all on the flip.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2026 11:17 PM (vE0+H)

The Flip Wilson show is still on TV as reruns? Perhaps I need to check that station out.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 11:19 PM (qx7Zg)

184
Pie are round.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 10, 2026 11:20 PM (azNOR)

185 No active business is currently registered as operating out of the specific building where Jo Jo’s Kountry Kitchen (and previously Bama Bar-B-Que) used to live. Local business records and public mapping updates show that the physical structure has not been taken over by a new commercial tenant or restaurant.

Posted by: Orson at August 10, 2026 11:22 PM (dIske)

186 Today, I cleaned up some of the messes I made in the last few days of work, and then got into doing "body work" on the fiberglass body shell of my dune buggy project. Te battery tray was heavily slathered with tan-colored body filler, which really has no structural strength to speak of. But I had to cut off the bottom two inches to make clearance for the anti-sway bar I had installed on the rear swing axles. Out comes the sawzall. Cut out in 2 minutes. There were similar great globs of body filler in other places, too, notably the front corners of the mounting flange area where it is supposed to bolt to the floor pan. I ground all the filler off with a flap wheel. Huge dust cloud ensued. "Now, will this body fit the floor pan?" I had previously found that sitting the body direct on the floor pan caused the shock towers to hit the underside of the body; not optimal. So I had made a "shim" from 1 1/4" light gauge square steel tubing, jigged up on the floor pan itself, with holes drilled to match the body mount holes on the floor pan. I took this shim, and inverted it, and placed it on the inverted body tub. 1/2

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:22 PM (1z8ji)

187 The Flip Wilson show is still on TV as reruns? Perhaps I need to check that station out.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 10, 2026 11:19 PM (qx7Zg)

+++++++++++++++++++

Flip started the whole tranny trend with Geraldine.

(God, I'm old)

Posted by: Orson at August 10, 2026 11:23 PM (dIske)

188 Flip started the whole tranny trend with Geraldine.

(God, I'm old)

Posted by: Orson at August 10, 2026 11:23 PM (dIske)
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Yeah, but that was actually funny. The only funny tranny I can think of is the dude who claimed asylum in the Netherlands and is now back here. That is high comedy

Posted by: 496 at August 10, 2026 11:26 PM (GfRAq)

189 The Fantastic Five are written on the window.

Posted by: Craig Pirrong at August 10, 2026 11:27 PM (XUCVR)

190 We had a circular wash fountain in the ladies' room at work-- 6 or 8 of us could all scrub at the same time, and easily get clean up to elbows. Foot-activated, of course. Powdered Boraxo and bars of Lava soap handy.
Posted by: JQ

The powers that be installed such sinks into our middle school and then, later, at the plant I was working at. They were not utilized as sinks at first.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM (VfaaV)

191 The problem with radians is you have to get 2 pi to get a whole pie and that’s just double dealing!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM (gxRWI)

192 2/2
With the shim on the inverted body tub, it was clear that the body was about an inch short in the attaching flange area. I clamped the shim securely at the rear, where it fit pretty well, and went to work at the front. I ran the sawzall down both sides, and inch back from the front toeboard, almost to the top rail of the body. I could then push the bottom of the toeboard forward until it flange mated pretty well with the shim. Clamped that. Went around the perimeter, pulling the body flange into close alignment with the shim, clamping them, drill out the mount hole in the fiberglass flange, and fasten with a bolt and washers. All done. Drove 5 Tek screws through the mounting flange into the front arch of the shim (no bolt holes there). Weather permitting tomorrow, I will use mat and resin to rebuild the front corners where I made the saw cuts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:33 PM (1z8ji)

193 That was a very cruel post.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 11:19 PM (Pee1E)

Well, just stop by. There will be pie.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (5JJx4)

194 191 The problem with radians is you have to get 2 pi to get a whole pie and that’s just double dealing!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM (gxRWI)

Why bother making one pie when you can make two?

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (5JJx4)

195 I canned pears and made pear jam. I picked the pears off my tree this year instead of letting them fall, and they can better that way.
The pear jam surprised me because I sort of winged it and it set anyways.

I also spent an hour this morning digging blackberry vines out of the hedge. I will never be done there until I take out the hedge and put in a fence, but I can at least keep the vines cut back so they don't menace passer-bys

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

196 I also spent an hour this morning digging blackberry vines out of the hedge. I will never be done there until I take out the hedge and put in a fence, but I can at least keep the vines cut back so they don't menace passer-bys
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

Make some blackberry jam. Or blackberry wine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

197 I also spent an hour this morning digging blackberry vines out of the hedge. I will never be done there until I take out the hedge and put in a fence, but I can at least keep the vines cut back so they don't menace passer-bys
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

I spent the end of May cutting out dead raspberry canes. You would never know it now. My raspberry bushes are... epic. I'm thinking of paying my contractor in berries.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:36 PM (5JJx4)

198 TY T-Rex, I have a soft spot for the nostalgic ONTs. I watched the entire toy gun video and noticed Otis from Mayberry in the first scene and Billy “danger Will Robinson” Mumy later on. Who btw was part of one of the creepiest TZ episodes playing the mean kid everyone feared.
I’m sure if I pulled out the late 50s/early 60s Christmas pics, many of those firearms would be found strewn all over the floor. My late brothers took their obsession of all things firearms into their adult lives. Which would inevitably trickle down the DNA trail to moi.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 10, 2026 11:41 PM (SjAWL)

199 > I didn't know you were from the Lodi/Stockton area!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 10:41 PM (1Ff7Z)

Oh, Lord.


Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:42 PM (IG3/x)

200 Gun Owners of America@GunOwners

In GOA's case, a federal court just stuck down NFA registration for:

❌Suppressors
❌Short-Barreled Rifles
❌Short-Barreled Shotguns

GOA & our allies in Congress eliminated the tax.

The National Firearms Act of 1934 is now UNCONSTITUTIONAL as applied.

We're proud to have fought this fight, but it's not over yet. The Department of Justice still has the opportunity to appeal, and the court stayed its order for seven days to give them time to seek appellate review. Although as of the writing of this article, they have not done so.

Also, the Judge in this case limited protection to members of Gun Owners of America and other named plaintiffs.

We fought for a nationwide injunction, but the Judge did not grant it to us.

So, because of the ruling, we're encouraging everyone who would like protection from the National Firearms Act's registration requirements to become GOA members.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 10, 2026 11:42 PM (Pee1E)

201 > but I can at least keep the vines cut back so they don't menace passer-bys
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2026 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

I would've considered "menacing passers-by" a plus, back when I was maintaining a yard.

Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:43 PM (IG3/x)

202 They were not utilized as sinks at first.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM

Boys being boys, at every age...

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 11:44 PM (rdVOm)

203 > 184
Pie are round.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 10, 2026 11:20 PM (azNOR)



Cornbread are square.

Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:44 PM (IG3/x)

204 203 > 184
Pie are round.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 10, 2026 11:20 PM (azNOR)



Cornbread are square.
Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:44 PM (IG3/x)

And donuts are.... torii.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:45 PM (5JJx4)

205 30 Wiki pronounces it 'Djurgorden' .
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2026 10:12 PM (diia5)

Which surprisingly sounds like how Mr. Tudball would pronounce it.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 10, 2026 11:47 PM (SjAWL)

206 Cornbread are square.
Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:44 PM (IG3/x)

You know what would be cool? A Mobius strip cake pan, so you could bake Mobius strip cakes. Which would have icing all over, since all sides are the top.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2026 11:47 PM (1z8ji)

207 > Oh, Lord.


Posted by: John Fogerty at August 10, 2026 11:42 PM (IG3/x)

How much must it suck for Lodi to have that as the only song about it.

New York, New York
LA Woman
I Left My Heart in San Francisco
Chicago, My Kind of Town
Cleveland Rocks
El Paso
One Night in Bangkok
Wichita Lineman

Then you have "Oh, Lord... stuck in Lodi again."

As I said, it's gotta suck.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2026 11:48 PM (IG3/x)

208 Topology has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2026 11:50 PM (XeU6L)

209 French toast are triangles.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at August 10, 2026 11:51 PM (4XJZx)

210
On the Edith Keeler episode of Star Trek, they used the Mayberry set. I think you can see "Floyd's" in one of the street windows in a few frames.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 10, 2026 11:53 PM (w6EFb)

211 > 202 They were not utilized as sinks at first.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM

Back in the '80s a friend got into family housing on Elmendorf (as it was then). There was a full basement with a laundry sink in it that he rigged up as a man cave (though that expression wasn't around then). Computer, dart board, old sofas, refrigerator, TV, etc.

Since they didn't even have a washer and drier, it was clear to all of us that the sink was clearly for the express purpose of making us not have to go upstairs to get rid of used beer.

However, when his wife found out, she disagreed. Strongly.

Didn't matter that she never used the sink for anything. It was just Something That Was Not Done.

He agreed to stop doing that, then promptly ignored the agreement.

Yes, they eventually got divorced. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2026 11:54 PM (IG3/x)

212 On the Edith Keeler episode of Star Trek, they used the Mayberry set. I think you can see "Floyd's" in one of the street windows in a few frames.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 10, 2026 11:53 PM (w6EFb)

Superman also was hanging around Mayberry.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2026 11:55 PM (1Ff7Z)

213 Love the B/W pics, Dino. Thanks for the ONT

Posted by: scampydog in ND at August 10, 2026 11:56 PM (PqBGS)

214 How much must it suck for Lodi to have that as the only song about it.”

Happiness was Lubbock, Texas in the rear view mirror.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2026 11:58 PM (ZGz6B)

215
Here you go, The Shat and Joan Collins in front of Floyd's:

https://t.ly/Z6MJ_

Also, a deleted scene from that episode:

https://t.ly/r6V_D

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 10, 2026 11:59 PM (w6EFb)

216
Another set crossover. Samantha's house in Bewitched was also used for Dr. Bellow's house in I Dream of Jeannie.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:02 AM (w6EFb)

217
And serve maple syrup in a Klein bottle.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:03 AM (w6EFb)

218 I’m sure if I pulled out the late 50s/early 60s Christmas pics, many of those firearms would be found strewn all over the floor. My late brothers took their obsession of all things firearms into their adult lives. Which would inevitably trickle down the DNA trail to moi.
Posted by: TxAnn at August 10, 2026 11:41 PM

For Christmas one year I got the Jonny 7 in 1 attack rifle with Screaming Mesmee grenade attachment. The Grenade was this big red thing that would shoot off the end of your rifle with a spring load or something, and it would make this loud wailing WOWowWowowWOWow shrieking sound.
Cats and dogs and younger siblings just loved it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2026 12:04 AM (ZGz6B)

219 For a place you wanted to leave, Lubbock did a fine job raising a passel of musicians.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 12:05 AM (gxRWI)

220 The Brady Bunch interior was used for an episode of Mission: Impossible and multiple episodes of Mannix.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:05 AM (IG3/x)

221
It was only very recently when I truly groked the difference between topology and geometry.

You know the old joke, a topologist can't tell the difference between a coffee mug and donut? Well, that finally truly clicked with me.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:06 AM (w6EFb)

222 And serve maple syrup in a Klein bottle.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:03 AM (w6EFb)


Too messy!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 12:06 AM (gxRWI)

223 I do not recall a 427 Chevy II. I'm dubious that it was a production item.

Dealer engine swap. Before the Heavy Hand of Government the gimmick of a few dealerships is that they would do that. Had to pay up front though.

Posted by: Azjaeger at August 11, 2026 12:08 AM (3/XaG)

224 They were not utilized as sinks at first.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2026 11:30 PM

Boys being boys, at every age...

Posted by: JQ at August 10, 2026 11:44 PM (rdVOm)

I used to pee in mom's laundry sink in the basement. Half the basement was finished, its where my guitars and amps were, so screw running upstairs to the bathroom. I just went to the laundry side. She never knew. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2026 12:11 AM (S41Gd)

225 If you're going to be known for something, it might as well be pies, right?

It is, how you say, a good backup plan.

Posted by: Paolo at August 11, 2026 12:11 AM (VHUov)

226 216
Another set crossover. Samantha's house in Bewitched was also used for Dr. Bellow's house in I Dream of Jeannie.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:02 AM (w6EFb)

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Samantha's house was kitty-corner to the house of the Heck Family in The Middle. You can see in in a lot of the exterior shots. It was at Warner Ranch in Burbank.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 11, 2026 12:12 AM (6/7Fs)

227 Well, 'I'm Goin' Back to Houston'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 12:12 AM (Pee1E)

228 It was only very recently when I truly groked the difference between topology and geometry.

You know the old joke, a topologist can't tell the difference between a coffee mug and donut? Well, that finally truly clicked with me.
Posted by: publius


All humans are topologically equivalent. (And equivalent to the coffee mug and the donut.)

Unless they have piercings.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:13 AM (VHUov)

229 (And equivalent to the coffee mug and the donut.)

Or maybe not. Nostrils.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:14 AM (VHUov)

230 Michigan DEM Senate nominee Abdul El-Sayed seems to have flown himself into anti-aircraft flak box.

Was it good for you too, Abdul?

Posted by: mnw at August 11, 2026 12:14 AM (RCjYY)

231 Evening Horde, sorry I'm late. Requesting prayers for the third-round interview tomorrow in the mid-late morning. Hopefully this is the last hurdle!

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click) at August 11, 2026 12:15 AM (aJQbY)

232 Joan Collins, right there with Elizabeth Taylor as almost impossibly beautiful women in early film.

We don't see much like them now.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 12:15 AM (BeyMP)

233 Best of luck, Dave!

Posted by: mnw at August 11, 2026 12:16 AM (RCjYY)

234 >>I used to pee in mom's laundry sink in the basement. Half the basement was finished, its where my guitars and amps were, so screw running upstairs to the bathroom. I just went to the laundry side. She never knew. lol
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Big bro's friend turned his garage into a man-cave, complete with tv, stereo, blu-ray player & a collection of odd old chairs. No "facilities" of any kind, just a bucket in the corner. Ew! No wonder the dude is single.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm)

235 Good luck, RandomDave!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:18 AM (IG3/x)

236 One of the best street racers I ever saw was a 1963 Chevy II two door with a 327 / 4 speed dropped into it. Those early Chevy II’s were little more than go-karts with metal roofs, I’d be surprised if it weighed over 2000 lbs. with an engine like that in one it could pull the front wheels off the ground.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2026 12:19 AM (ZGz6B)

237 And serve maple syrup in a Klein bottle.
Posted by: publius

Too messy!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


No kidding! A whole universe full of syrup.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:19 AM (VHUov)

238 First night in weeks that I haven't been hit with a page of popup ads every time I hit the refresh button.

I guess they must've decided I was never going to buy anything.

Posted by: mnw at August 11, 2026 12:19 AM (RCjYY)

239 > Or maybe not. Nostrils.
Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:14 AM (VHUov)

Ostomies, ports, botched vasectomies...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:20 AM (IG3/x)

240 Well, I can scarcely keep my eyes open. Heading off to the rack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2026 12:20 AM (1z8ji)

241 Cheers, RandomDave! Best of luck!

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 12:20 AM (rdVOm)

242 >> Or maybe not. Nostrils.

Yep, the number of holes is a fundamental property somehow. I think the number of holes is the "genus", and then there's a Euler Characteristic.

Euler was into everything, I'll tell you.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:23 AM (w6EFb)

243 I spent the end of May cutting out dead raspberry canes. You would never know it now. My raspberry bushes are... epic. I'm thinking of paying my contractor in berries.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 10, 2026 11:36 PM (5JJx4)


My blackcaps did very well for plants I dug up and transplanted from the woods. The thimbleberries have lush leaves and thick canes and have not given me one berry so I am going to dig them up and put in some Marionberries instead.
I think both of them will survive the root rot that killed my raspberries. And if not, I will burn them down and put them elsewhere.

I can only do so much blackberry jam, though. I have done a case of jars so far, and I am trying to cut back on sugar. I might try to make some blackberry cordial, though maybe not. I bought a fifth of cheap white rum for baking, and I only use so much for that.
My late plums are coming next, and I will be canning and drying those until I see them in my sleep, do I may decide to not.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2026 12:24 AM (rbvCR)

244 Goodnight, AOP.

I'm outta here too.

I think someone asked what I've been watching in the ONT last night, but I didn't see that until this morning.

Right now I'm working on The Gilded Age, which is by Julian Fellowes (same guy as Downton Abbey). This one is set in New York during the Robber Baron era. Pretty good.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:24 AM (IG3/x)

245 I'd be afraid to plant Marionberries, lest they start bringing home hookers and smoking crack.

G'night.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:26 AM (IG3/x)

246
Believe it or not, a Klein bottle can be flat, that is having zero intrinsic curvature everywhere on the surface.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

247 Yep, the number of holes is a fundamental property somehow. I think the number of holes is the "genus"
Posted by: publius


Yeah. I checked after I typed. The main "donut hole" from mouth to exit, plus 6 other holes that connect to that passage through the nose and eyes. So a human is a genus-7 torus.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:29 AM (VHUov)

248 North Korea Battles Record Heat By Prescribing Dog Soup And Propaganda

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 12:30 AM (Pee1E)

249 al Sayed: "Toxic masculinity governs American football."

Hmm. He said that in MI? While running against Mike Rogers (R) the former Special Forces officer?

Quite a contrast.

Posted by: mnw at August 11, 2026 12:30 AM (RCjYY)

250 This is why topology is postgraduate math. It's wacky stuff with no real-world applications for 99.9% of us. I technically use linear algebra, calculus, and differential equations in my day job, though it's all hidden by the software. Topology? Useless.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:32 AM (VHUov)

251
And you can construct a flat torus, but it also requires 4D space to do so. You can't construct an intrinsically flat torus in 3D space.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:33 AM (w6EFb)

252 OpenAI head of ethics, head of safety systems AND head of mission alignment have ALL quit in the last few weeks…
---

Sam Altman is a crook.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 12:34 AM (Pee1E)

253 Going back home tomorrow. Would say that I will miss this place, but between our last visit here and this one, I am starting to get the distinct impression that San Francisco doesn't like me.....😂😂😂

I want to come back to spend more time with the grandbabies, though 💕💕💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at August 11, 2026 12:34 AM (S7WXb)

254 Believe it or not, a Klein bottle can be flat, that is having zero intrinsic curvature everywhere on the surface.
Posted by: publius,
---------

But not a sphere.
Gauss's Theorema Egregium

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2026 12:36 AM (XeU6L)

255 Right now I'm working on The Gilded Age, which is by Julian Fellowes (same guy as Downton Abbey). This one is set in New York during the Robber Baron era. Pretty good.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 12:24 AM (IG3/x)

I tried to watch it, yet I couldn't long endure the absurd DEI casting.

Of course black women were so pivotal in the upper class late 1880s New York.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 12:37 AM (BeyMP)

256 Yeah. I checked after I typed. The main "donut hole" from mouth to exit, plus 6 other holes that connect to that passage through the nose and eyes. So a human is a genus-7 torus.
Posted by: mikeski


That's also related to one of my favorite bits of biological trivia.

When a human is first developing, it starts as a single cell. Eventually, it's a ball of cells. The first "physical feature" to develop is a single indentation, or pore, on that ball of cells.

Eventually, that pore extends through the embryo and becomes the alimentary canal.

But that first indentation is not the entrance; it's the exit.

So, before any of us were anything else, we were all just an asshole.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:41 AM (VHUov)

257 @TonyLaneNV
Aug 9
A man tried forcing his way into a stranger’s Rolls-Royce while she was still sitting in it at a Miami valet, and he got tased and cuffed for it almost immediately.

https://tinyurl.com/54hj23w5


full screen

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 12:41 AM (Pee1E)

258
A sphere is almost perfect symmetry. Almost divine symmetry, you might call it. A 2-sphere (the surface of a "3-ball" ) has constant positive Gaussian curvature, just 1/r^2, where is the radius.

Every point a sphere is the same as any other.

The development of differential geometry is a fascinating thing. From Gauss to Riemann, who perfected it. And there it was, something abstract theory of curvature of spaces of arbitrary dimension that just sat on a shelf, seemingly some abstract thing with no real physical usefullness. Then Einstein came along with General Relativity.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:43 AM (w6EFb)

259 I hadn’t thought about Gauss's Theorema Egregium in years. Used some of that math in my doctoral research. Nostalgic.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 12:44 AM (gxRWI)

260 Big bro's friend turned his garage into a man-cave, complete with tv, stereo, blu-ray player & a collection of odd old chairs. No "facilities" of any kind, just a bucket in the corner. Ew! No wonder the dude is single.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm)

Yeah thats fucked. I think when I do the pole barn I'll put a harley themed man cave in there since that's what will be going on in there. I'm thinking 75% work area, and 25% hang out area thats isolated from the shop area. It won't have a bathroom either, but its kinda rural around here, so stepping outside to pee isn't a problem. Key word is outside. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2026 12:45 AM (S41Gd)

261 LOL Breanyard, reminds me of "don't take me bro."

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 12:47 AM (BeyMP)

262
The Poincare Conjecture was all about spheres. Is any simply connected surface (no holes, meaning you can contract a closed curve down to a point without hitting anything) topologically equivalent to a sphere.

The crazy thing was it it was proven in dimensions of 5 or greater well before, and was relatively easy. Then came 4 dimensions.

Proving it for 3 dimensions was a bitch. It was finally proven in 2003 by a reclusive Russian mathematician, who looks like Rasputin.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:49 AM (w6EFb)

263 Hope that you all had a good Monday, Horde, sweet dreams it has been an exhausting day.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 11, 2026 12:49 AM (ibDUx)

264
THere was a dispute over that Poincare Conjecture proof. Some Chicom mathematician seemed to be trying to insinuate himself into that, trying to take credit away from the Rasputin-looking guy.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:53 AM (w6EFb)

265 My neighbor erected a wooden fence so he could attend to calls of nature outside without offending my late wife. We wound up living way out in the country, but there are still neighbors.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 12:53 AM (gxRWI)

266 Kindltot, I will happily take your leftover blackberry preserves. Or even just the blackberries if you can just ship 'em through the USB port.

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click) at August 11, 2026 12:55 AM (aJQbY)

267 >> Gauss's Theorema Egregium

That is a beautiful thing, and Gauss was just blown away by that result. Thus we have the distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic curvature.

Take a cylinder (infinitely long). That has extrinsic curvature, it must curve in the 3D embedding space, but *on the surface*, using only 2D measurements you can make, it is completely flat, zero Gaussian curvature. There's that property of wrapping around back to where you started in one of the dimensions, but that's just a bit of topological distinction, not the intrinsic geometry.

We tend to want to think of curved surfaces (or higher dimensional curved spaces) in terms of some higher dimensional, flat Euclidean embedding space. We can see "why" the metric is so weird and not Euclidean.

The intrinsic curvature picture says forget about the embedding spaces. A space need not have any higher dimensions in which to curve. Just take the surface for it is, a non-Euclidian geometry.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 12:59 AM (w6EFb)

268 Proving it for 3 dimensions was a bitch. It was finally proven in 2003 by a reclusive Russian mathematician, who looks like Rasputin.
Posted by: publius


What is it in the Russian genome that makes them so crazy good at math? I think half of modern cryptography has a russki behind it.

The other half, some other eastern-european.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 01:02 AM (VHUov)

269 , I am starting to get the distinct impression that San Francisco doesn't like me.....😂😂😂

I want to come back to spend more time with the grandbabies, though 💕💕💕
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at August 11, 2026 12:34 AM (S7WXb)

If your are going to San Francisco, as Scott McKenzie reminds us, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.

A City By A Body Of Water (h/t, Jim Rome)

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 01:03 AM (ukytI)

270 What is it in the Russian genome that makes them so crazy good at math? I think half of modern cryptography has a russki behind it.

The other half, some other eastern-european.
Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 01:02 AM (VHUov)


You're veering dangerously close to forbidden thoughts.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:04 AM (BeyMP)

271 Axios Report: The U.S. has brokered a deal for the IAEA to remove nuclear material from a clandestine Syrian site known as "Site 99."

Damascus agreed to the removal. The site holds yellowcake uranium and remnants of the former Al-Kibar program, material usable in a "dirty bomb" though not directly in a weapon. The operation is ongoing, with officials hoping to complete it by year's end.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 01:06 AM (Pee1E)

272 Differential geometry is the gateway to topology.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 01:07 AM (gxRWI)

273 >> What is it in the Russian genome that makes them so crazy good at math?

It's a wonder we beat them to the Moon. Well, no, it wasn't so much math and physics as engineering. Our German rocket scientists were just better than theirs.

Also, it takes a Greek to run a really good restaurant. That is true around here, I've noticed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:08 AM (w6EFb)

274 WNBA couldn't afford to buy this kind of publicity. Have the black girls wear black panther outfits and the white girls where Ku Klux Klan sheets! Every game would be a sellout!

Posted by: carly at August 11, 2026 01:11 AM (/13ZH)

275 Trump on Midterms: We have jihadists being elected all over the place. These are people who have been failures who come from other countries that are not great. They’re not smart.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 01:12 AM (Pee1E)

276
The amazing thing about curvature. In 2D, it takes just one scalar to characterize the curvature at any point. That number is the Gaussian curvature.

In 3D, it takes 6 scalars to fully describe. You can think of this as the more complicated ways that a 3D space can curve. You've got just one "plane" in 2D. In 3D, you have three local planes.

And those 6 numbers correspond to a rank-2 symmetric tensor (think of it as a matrix), dubbed the Ricci curvature.

For dimension 4 and higher, well, you need a *rank-4* tensor, dubbed the Riemann curvature tensor to fully describe. Thus for a higher dimensions than 3, you need a 4 dimensional mathematical object itself to describe the space.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:13 AM (w6EFb)

277 Evening all,

We have a launch in the morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-19
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: August 11, 2026
Launch Time: 10:26 a.m. EDT (14:26 UTC, 16:26 CEST)

https://youtu.be/x6FNFhI98xw

Posted by: Joyenz at August 11, 2026 01:15 AM (2F0/Y)

278 Rollerderby girls called it a hit in the tickets.
She should receive a bonus for every bad hit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 01:15 AM (Pee1E)

279 It won't have a bathroom either, but its kinda rural around here, so stepping outside to pee isn't a problem. Key word is outside. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Clarification: Bro's friend's bucket was only for pee, and in coldest weather... The backyard was spacious and private enough for *summertime use* and all #2 would be done in the house. The house was not far from the garage, but was detached from it.

If I had a setup like that, would put in a partition and have a chemical toilet (like old camp trailer) for "just in case" situations.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 01:18 AM (rdVOm)

280 Trump on Midterms: We have jihadists being elected all over the place. These are people who have been failures who come from other countries that are not great. They’re not smart.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 01:12 AM (Pee1E)

We cannot spare this man. He fights. I despair of any GOP without him.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2026 01:18 AM (vE0+H)

281 Timely ONT! I just had Claude Code plan a road trip for my family of eight down from Portland to Yosemite and Mammoth, with lots of stops to see redwoods. It did pretty well. The second week my oldest son and I are planning to hike from Onion Valley to Whitney while everyone else does fun stuff around Mammoth.

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 01:23 AM (rcENI)

282 Crawling back in briefly. Bet you didn't even notice I was gone, didja? That's my ninja skill. Invisibility.

Mt Rushmore, the early days
https://bit.ly/mt-rushmore-b4

Posted by: mindful webworker - back again for the first time on any stage at August 11, 2026 01:24 AM (9wnX8)

283 Trump on Midterms: We have jihadists being elected all over the place. These are people who have been failures who come from other countries that are not great. They’re not smart.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 11, 2026 01:12 AM (Pee1E)

Love Trump but don't think he's real in touch with the youths today.

Was listening to podcast that scared me.

Seems the DSA is making real inroads with today's youths.

Giving them activities and meetings that lead to a sense of purpose.

This is a well funded and organized effort.

There is no comparable organized effort like this on the Right.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:25 AM (BeyMP)

284 Time to see if I can find sleep. Good night, Horde.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 11, 2026 01:25 AM (CHHv1)

285 I have this sneaking sensation the ancient lecture on toxic masculinity is helping soften the "scariest" parts of the jihadist while simultaneously informing everyone that he played football like a true Tom Cruise all-American.

I can't help knowing when I'm being played. Or being set up. At some point I promise I will drop it and just watch it play out. Hell, either he will win or lose, right? And it's already a D seat.

But this trajectory is strongly pointing toward another midwest jihadist win. And I think the terrorist victory is critical for the next phase of the DNC "rebirth", and therefore it is not being left to chance.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2026 01:26 AM (vE0+H)

286
Consider some little ants, flatlanders they're sometimes called, living on the surface of 2 sphere. They've learned Euclidean geometry. They think they live on a flat plane, because they are so small relative to the radius.

If they started making local measurements over long enough spans, they would start noticing some crazy things. They would find the circumference of a circle was *less* than 2pi*r, and the area of that circle was *more* than pi*r^2. They would find that the sum of the angles of a triangle was *more* than 180 degrees.

And, if they started walking in opposite directions at right angles to each other, they find they eventually met each other again. Their straight line paths converge (at the antipode of their starting point).

They would think that was impossible.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:27 AM (w6EFb)

287 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:27 AM (w6EFb)

The hardest parts of these for me has been trying to imagine I'm an ant that knows geometry. But I have enjoyed them.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2026 01:29 AM (vE0+H)

288 286 publius

In college the best poem I wrote was about how if you try measuring galactic-scale triangles, you might prove that the universe is elliptic or hyperbolic---crooked, you might say---but measurement error means you can never prove it is Euclidean. I should try to find that again. . . .

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 01:30 AM (rcENI)

289 Just turned TV on in the hotel Die Hard is on. Not too shabby end of night.

Posted by: scampydog at August 11, 2026 01:33 AM (PqBGS)

290 Gotta make my midnight snack popcorn with the Earth Balance these two weeks. :-(

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 01:33 AM (rcENI)

291 Today's GOP Senate is amongst the pathetically weak power to power ratio.

Thune a willing cuck.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:38 AM (BeyMP)

292 Sidebar comment: 'lawn jockey'. Heh. That could apply to Obama also.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 11, 2026 01:40 AM (sAmhv)

293
Now, that business of the ants on the sphere is with positive Gaussian curvature. What about negative curvature. Well with that, over a region of interest with negative curvature everywhere, the circumference of a circle would be greater than 2pi*r, the area would be less than pi*r^2, and triangles would sum to less than 180 degrees. This is the exact opposite of positive curvature.

Now, just a sphere is maximally symmetric surface of positive curvature, how about the inverse, a surface of constant negative curvature? That's dubbed the hyperbolic plane (you can see some things look like hyperbolae there).

That's a bitch. Turns out there is no way to *smoothly* embed such a thing in 3D. You can if allow some "edges" (curvature singularities), there some tractrix curve you can make a surface of revolution out of, but it will have a cusp.

Turns out you need a 6-dimensional space to smoothly embed this. It might be possible to do it in 5 or even 4 dimensions, but they haven't figured that out yet. But a 6D embedding is known.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:41 AM (w6EFb)

294 There is no comparable organized effort like this on the Right.
Posted by: LTG



Well, there was, but Charlie Kirk was murdered by the Left and here we are.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 11, 2026 01:43 AM (sAmhv)

295 Sometimes I can read the comments of Publius and other geniuses on here and actually have some slight comprehension of what's being discussed.

Tonight, though, my brain just couldn't get through reading some of the comments. But, then, weren't some of them sorta like that forbidden topic of (gasp) math?

Posted by: mindful webworker - brain brain what is brain? at August 11, 2026 01:48 AM (9wnX8)

296 I am grateful that my nine-years-older brother (RIP) gave me a copy of Flatland when I was eleven. One of the best things he ever did for me. My other brother just beat me up.

I'm not entirely incapable of thinking fourth dimensionally. As Doc Brown might say.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 4x4x4x4 tic-tac-toe game on a Shack Model I once upon a time at August 11, 2026 01:52 AM (9wnX8)

297 >> I wrote was about how if you try measuring galactic-scale triangles, you might prove that the universe is elliptic or hyperbolic

A little caution about "space" in General Relativity, hell just SR too. The notion of space is purely *coordinate dependent*. One man's space is another man's time. This, is well, somewhat difficult to wrap your head around at first blush. :-)

Now, cosmologists like to use a preferred reference frame for the FLRW spacetimes, dubbed the comoving coordinates. This has a natural reason, but they tend to forget it's just an arbitrary choice.

GR and the curvature is about *spacetime*, space and time together in a 4D (psuedo-) Riemannian structure.

On the one, those 4D are 1 dimension of time and 3 dimensions of space, but they get mixed up as a matter of coordinate choice.

So whether "space" is flat, open hyperbolic, or closed "elliptical" is a coordinate question. Is does correspond to an actual invariant, though, and that is the critical density.

But in other choices of coordinates, space would be different.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 01:53 AM (w6EFb)

298 Well, there was, but Charlie Kirk was murdered by the Left and here we are.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 11, 2026 01:43 AM

There was no answer from "The Right."

Despite all the boastful "we have all the guns."

The violence comes almost exclusively from the Left.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:54 AM (BeyMP)

299 I hadn’t realized Do Carmo, the author of Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces had passed away in 2018. We are all getting older, day by day.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 01:56 AM (gxRWI)

300 The invariants involve spacetime. You can’t use spacetime and time separately, except in a very artificial way.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 01:58 AM (gxRWI)

301 Sorry that was supposed to be space and time separately. That was auto cucumber: I got it trying to change space into spacetime just now.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:00 AM (gxRWI)

302 Top Pic-

My daddy had one of them

Called a hernia

Posted by: Miklos tries to be more careful these days, sometimes at August 11, 2026 02:01 AM (XOG/m)

303 Mgid is hiding on the page

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2026 02:01 AM (Ia/+0)

304 I just realized that now-today (Aug 11) is the anniversary of that oldest brother's birth. He would have been 83. Gone ten years ago. Sometimes I miss the old curmudgeon.


Preparing for surgery on Friday. Diet recommendations. Some prescription proscriptions. Packing a hospital bag. Adjusting my sleep schedule since it will probably be an early-morning appointment. Prepping myself mentally.

All so the Doc can tuck my guts back in place with a little mesh fence. You know that thing of an old pot-bellied man on the beach, sucking his gut in when the pretty young thing in the bikini walks by? Yeah, that doesn't work for me.


Sorry if that's TMI. I probably won't be around much this weekend.

https://youtu.be/ZSLAiEEm_Dg

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - health is our greatest wealth at August 11, 2026 02:02 AM (9wnX8)

305 I got it trying to change space into spacetime just now.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Jump back, Jack

See ya later, alligator

Posted by: Miklos does the Time Warp again at August 11, 2026 02:02 AM (XOG/m)

306 The murder of Charlie Kirk should have led to a furious backlash.

The fact that it didn't shows exactly how far down the humanist rabbit hole we have gone.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:02 AM (BeyMP)

307 The Left think violence is knob they can adjust smoothly. For the Right, it’s a switch, one way or the other. For the sake of the nation, we will bear a lot before throwing that switch, but there are limits!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:04 AM (gxRWI)

308 Love Trump but don't think he's real in touch with the youths today.

Was listening to podcast that scared me.

Seems the DSA is making real inroads with today's youths.

Giving them activities and meetings that lead to a sense of purpose.

This is a well funded and organized effort.

There is no comparable organized effort like this on the Right.
Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:25 AM (BeyMP)

And just how would you propose to present that to the yutes? They are pre-programmed to be idiots. So were we. They will not listen to reason, only "reasons." They need to "rebel" against that which works, because, reasons.

Conservative thought and posture usually comes as a result of experience, and logical thought. The yutes have neither. You are just an old idiot, so far as they think, and nothing you do or say will move them.

Luckily, they are a minority of voters, since their mothers overwhelmingly aborted them. They are survivors, but they don't acknowledge that. It will come to them in time.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 11, 2026 02:06 AM (5JJx4)

309 He would have been 83. Gone ten years ago. Sometimes I miss the old curmudgeon.





73 is rather youthful for full glorious curmudgeonhood.

I am looking forward to Black Belt status and a World Champion belt

Posted by: Miklos at the Shaolin Monastery of Irascible Discipline at August 11, 2026 02:06 AM (XOG/m)

310 297 publius

I guess it is hard to talk about SSS congruent triangles when length is relative, lol.

But still, if the universe is Euclidean, shouldn't triangles be observed as 180 degrees from any reference frame?

Is critical density actually related to non-Euclidean geometry? Or just another interesting open question where we can't yet tell?

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 02:07 AM (rcENI)

311 Prayers for you mindful webworker, been there, done that. Good luck, and a faster than expected recovery (mine wasn’t).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:07 AM (gxRWI)

312 This idea of the Right just waiting to throw the violence switch is kind of laughable at this point.

I mean, what are you waiting for?

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:09 AM (BeyMP)

313 Most of what you hear from media, any media, is psyops from the Left. Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:10 AM (gxRWI)

314 Turns out you need a 6-dimensional space to smoothly embed this. It might be possible to do it in 5 or even 4 dimensions, but they haven't figured that out yet. But a 6D embedding is known.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Some of Darleen's girl talk is starting to make sense

Posted by: Lifelong learner Miklos at August 11, 2026 02:10 AM (XOG/m)

315 We’re waiting for a true civil war, like the Spanish had, and trying desperately to avoid it.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:12 AM (gxRWI)

316 >> Is critical density actually related to non-Euclidean geometry?

This gets well beyond my own ability here. Critical density (ignoring a cosmological constant/dark energy) is basically about whether the universe will expand forever or stop and the contract, falling back on itself in a Big Crunch. The critical density would be just when, well it's like when a radial speed was exactly equal to escape velocity. You would "stop" at infinity. Greater than escape, you're still moving at infinity. Less than escape velocity, and you stop and start falling back in finite time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:13 AM (w6EFb)

317 It's about time
It's about space
It's about physics
Farting in your face

Posted by: Miklos merrily sang that in the schoolyard at August 11, 2026 02:14 AM (XOG/m)

318 Damn. Hubby fell again tonight, while transferring from wheelchair to bed after dinner.

He's okay, they say. No trip to hospital.

I've felt crappy all day, and was snoozing when nursing home called... didn't feel well enough to go there. (and of course, feel *guilty* for not going!) Ugh.

Poor hubby.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 02:14 AM (rdVOm)

319 I am going to bed, may the Lord bless you and keep you and make His face to shine upon you.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 11, 2026 02:14 AM (gxRWI)

320 Key word is outside. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Sorry ladies

"outdoor plumbing" does have it's advantages

Posted by: Associate Justice ketanji Miklos-Jackson-Browne at August 11, 2026 02:16 AM (XOG/m)

321 Giant Forest, Sequoia National Park - July 1935. No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.
-----
Because they could?

Looks like a blast.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at August 11, 2026 02:16 AM (4Qj8V)

322 Poor hubby.
Posted by: JQ

He did marry the best girl though, so also very lucky

Posted by: Positively Miklos at August 11, 2026 02:18 AM (XOG/m)

323 Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 02:14 AM (rdVOm)
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You do what you can do. You need to first get better before you devote yourself to others.

Glad nothing serious happened.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 11, 2026 02:19 AM (8schn)

324
Now, spacetime, even flat spacetime (Minkowski spacetime) is non-Euclidean from the get-go.

The "distance" in spacetime is non-positive definite. They don't even call it "distance" for this reason, but use the "separation" or the "interval".

In positive definite land, the notion of distance is always positive (or zero). It's the old Pythagorean sum of squares thing.

Now, the interval in spacetime is the *difference* of the squares of space and the square of time. The interval can be *negative*, as well as positive or zero. Which one is positive and which is negative is a matter of choice. I prefer the positive timelike convention, but the positive spacelike is very convenient in some cases.

If the seperation is positive, it is "timelike" meaning conceivable the two events could occur at the same plane at different times. If negative, it's "spacelike" meaning form some observer the events would occur at different places at the same time.

If zero, it's null or lightlike, meaning the events lie on the path light would travel.

There is no "real" geometry you can imagine where distance can be negative. That's were the "pseudo-" on Riemannian comes from.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:19 AM (w6EFb)

325 America has become the longest ongoing civil war.

The domestic Left against it's legacy.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:21 AM (BeyMP)

326 I think the photographer wanted those riders on horses in the picture to illustrate *scale*--

That Sequoia is MASSIVE!

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 02:21 AM (rdVOm)

327 This idea of the Right just waiting to throw the violence switch is kind of laughable at this point.

I mean, what are you waiting for?
Posted by: LTG

Tone it down a wee bit

*refers to Guidance Update 39.67.1k*

Posted by: Bob from NSA sent this over to the FBI/SPLC at August 11, 2026 02:22 AM (XOG/m)

328 That Sequoia is MASSIVE!
Posted by: JQ

It is, how you say, impressive in it's own way

Posted by: the Paolo at August 11, 2026 02:23 AM (XOG/m)

329 Turns out you need a 6-dimensional space to smoothly embed this. It might be possible to do it in 5 or even 4 dimensions, but they haven't figured that out yet. But a 6D embedding is known.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Some of Darleen's girl talk is starting to make sense
Posted by: Lifelong learner Miklos at August 11, 2026 02:10
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Wondering if publius and Darleen are doing edibles or smoking some really good weed?

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at August 11, 2026 02:24 AM (4Qj8V)

330
That difference of squares things explains the Twin paradox nicely. In positive definite, sum of squares flatland, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Any other path will be longer.

In difference of squares, Minkowski flatland, a straight line is the *longest distance* between two points (events). All other timelike paths are shorter.

Hence, the inertial path also has the longest proper time. Any accelerated path will accumulate less proper time. Your twin, who must accelerate to get back to you, will always be younger.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:24 AM (w6EFb)

331 Anyone here ever read Dostoevsky's The Possessed aka The Demons? Somewhere twenty-five years ago I read a great introduction about how the book shows an older generation, the "liberals", nurturing but unable to control a younger generation, the socialists/anarchists/nihilists. Sound familiar? Of course a few decades later came the Bolshevik Revolution. I would like to re-read it today with the Pevear/Volokhonsky translation. My old Signet Classics copy doesn't have an introduction at all, so I don't know where I read that.

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 02:24 AM (rcENI)

332 Finally legally filed to collect my grandbaby from his awful mother. No idea what the outcome of this will be, but it's worth a try. No reason to leave that child in the hands of a horrid miserable useless idiot. My son will hopefully have full custody, and that's when the silliness begins. I suspect I will be full time gramma. Nothing wrong with that. But it is a life choice, and not one I had planned on.

My gramma did it with my cousins. No reason I can't do that with grandbaby of mine.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 11, 2026 02:29 AM (5JJx4)

333 Wondering if publius and Darleen are doing edibles or smoking some really good weed?
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take

I have never let Darleen within many country miles of Publius and/or Miley.

That girl is a born and full-grown homewrecker.

You should see how many extra cinder blocks the trailer house needs, because the lunar gravities affect her eating and weight gain cycles.

Moon Pies seem consistent, they should sell those in packs of 28

Posted by: Miklos deals with reality mainly at August 11, 2026 02:31 AM (XOG/m)

334 330 Your twin, who must accelerate to get back to you, will always be younger.

I don't think I've ever understood the answers to the Twin Paradox. Aren't either of you accelerating, relative to the other? OTOH acceleration is something you can feel, so maybe it isn't relative after all?

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 02:33 AM (rcENI)

335 frammish, today's DSA is explicitly Moaist.

Cultural Revolution done right this time.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:33 AM (BeyMP)

336 I had lunch with hubby today, as usual. Felt so-so, but it's important to see him! (I'm feeling yucky due to the forest fire smoke-- dry throat and sinuses, headache... yada yada, not any disease AFAIK)

Anyway, it's Garbage Day... and cans had been picked up by the time I got home. Of course, my silly old Cat decided to decapitate a rat on the patio doormat *after* trash pick up. Grrrr... so had to bag it up & take to nearest gas station because it's so damned hot these days, and I don't want to smell that rotting carcass all week!

It's all I could do before crashing in the recliner this afternoon...

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 02:35 AM (rdVOm)

337 Okay, for a final Big Bong hit: We're all moving through spacetime at the speed of light. (this is a tautology, really, but it sounds Wild, Man). Sitting here stationary relative to yourself, you're fixed in space, but moving through time at the speed of light.

Now, if someone gets moving relative to you, and moving really fast, his spacetime speed must be constant, so his motion through time must slow down. You think is clock is ticking slow. From his POV, however, it's your clock that is ticking slow (and your rulers are short).

Feynman liked to explain things this way.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:36 AM (w6EFb)

338
And just how would you propose to present that to the yutes? They are pre-programmed to be idiots. So were we. They will not listen to reason, only "reasons." They need to "rebel" against that which works, because, reasons.

Conservative thought and posture usually comes as a result of experience, and logical thought. The yutes have neither. You are just an old idiot, so far as they think, and nothing you do or say will move them.

Luckily, they are a minority of voters, since their mothers overwhelmingly aborted them. They are survivors, but they don't acknowledge that. It will come to them in time.
Posted by: tcn in AK

================

When the socialist programs inevitably fail, the gang that succeeds us 29-year-olds -- I think I see them forming on forums like Free Press and thinkers like Batya Ungar-Sargon -- will have to be ready to move in IMMEDIATELY and say "ARE YOU READY TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT? Like Common Fucking Sense? Like our way?"

They have to be ready.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 11, 2026 02:37 AM (mmrXZ)

339 My gramma did it with my cousins. No reason I can't do that with grandbaby of mine.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 11, 2026 02:29

God bless you tcn. Not what you signed up for but you are stepping up. Good for you, well and the grandbaby. Best wishes.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at August 11, 2026 02:37 AM (4Qj8V)

340 335 today's DSA is explicitly Moaist.

Can you tell me more about this? It's not like we have oppressed factory workers *or* agricultural peasants.

OTOH I agree that many things in the last ten years have reminded me of nothing so much as the Cultural Revolution.

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 02:37 AM (rcENI)

341 >> OTOH acceleration is something you can feel, so maybe it isn't relative after all?

Bingo! Acceleration, *real* acceleration is an invariant. This is known as proper acceleration. This is different from coordinate acceleration. When you're really accelerating, you "feel a force", an inertial force. G force.

When you're in free fall, you feel no force. Until you hit the ground. You're not really accelerating in gravity, it's because your geodesics are curved.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:39 AM (w6EFb)

342 Giant Forest, Sequoia National Park - July 1935. No, I don't know why these women were riding horses on top of the fallen Sequoia.

#1 - It's a good size comparison so you can actually get a feel for how huge Sequoias are.

#2 - Who doesn't want to ride a horse on top of a huge log?

#3 - Even the horses loved it. It's not often they get to walk on tree trunks.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 02:44 AM (6ydKt)

343 Now, if someone gets moving relative to you, and moving really fast,
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Are we talking First, Second, Or Third cousins, and how many times Removed (if applicable)?

Posted by: Miklos asking for a cousin-friend at August 11, 2026 02:44 AM (XOG/m)

344 The DSA in it's "intellectual roots" is explicitly Moaist.

It looks to China, not Russia for its organizing principle.

Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:44 AM (BeyMP)

345 >> Are we talking First, Second, Or Third cousins, and how many times Removed (if applicable)?

It's Triple Second cousins.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:46 AM (w6EFb)

346 Feynman liked to explain things this way.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:36

OK fess up, did you do the chocolates or the orange gummies?

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at August 11, 2026 02:47 AM (4Qj8V)

347 Tcn-- good luck! I hope your petition is granted. Baby needs a stable home.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 02:47 AM (rdVOm)

348 Dixie Bottling Works on Lee Street in Bristol, Virginia (the town that straddles the Tennessee and Virginia state line) - 1915

Have not been to Bristol, but I did come close when visiting Johnson City, TN which is part of the Tri-Cities area there (the other city being Kingsport, TN).

I liked that part of the country a lot.
Very beautiful, if you like hills and mountains and good people.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 02:48 AM (6ydKt)

349 It's Triple Second cousins.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

So okay then

Posted by: Darleen, Marleen and Charleen support this massage at August 11, 2026 02:48 AM (XOG/m)

350 Dixie Bottling Works on Lee Street in Bristol, Virginia


Fine.

Pfft

I bought many a case of Dixie longneck bottles at the Dixie Brewery on Tulane Avenue in New Orleans.

The cool thing was, that they were a bit slow to get those cases together, but there was free beer at a tap at the loading dock while you waited.

We always figured the guy whose only job was to man the free beer tap musta had some connection in the Union.

Posted by: Miklos learned to hope for slow at August 11, 2026 02:58 AM (XOG/m)

351 > I tried to watch it, yet I couldn't long endure the absurd DEI casting.

Of course black women were so pivotal in the upper class late 1880s New York.
Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 12:37 AM (BeyMP)

What? The primary black character is a private secretary -- a servant (note that she lives in the servant's quarters). I can assure you that being a secretary didn't make you "upper class" at the time.

Her father is a successful drug store owner (in the black part of town), but he certainly doesn't have Russell, Van Rijn, or Astor money. Running a drug store didn't make you "upper class", either.

I thought the portrayal of the black characters was refreshingly realistic. No DEI noted.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 03:00 AM (IG3/x)

352 Feynman liked to explain things this way.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 02:36

OK fess up, did you do the chocolates or the orange gummies?
Posted by: Farmer

Any theory, no matter how elegant, must be tested against reality.

Posted by: Miklos and Feynman smoke weed and try Von Neumann on the Ouija Board at August 11, 2026 03:01 AM (XOG/m)

353 >> OTOH acceleration is something you can feel, so maybe it isn't relative after all?

If you want to really blow your mind, see Bell's Spaceship Paradox, also known as the Rocket and Rope Paradox.

That will get you into the nitty gritty of coordinate vs proper acceleration, and also of whether Lorentz contraction is "real" or just a coordinate artifact. Also, about the nature of something you might dub a "uniform gravitational field". BTW, such a thing cannot really exist in Einstein gravity.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:01 AM (w6EFb)

354 You're not really accelerating in gravity, it's because your geodesics are curved.[/]

Oh I never thought about that. In free fall you *are* accelerating, right? GM/r^2? But you don't feel it?

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 03:02 AM (rcENI)

355 oops

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 03:04 AM (rcENI)

356 Good luck on the surgery, mindful, and good luck in court, tcn.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 03:04 AM (IG3/x)

357 >> Oh I never thought about that. In free fall you *are* accelerating, right? GM/r^2? But you don't feel it?

In free fall you are following your geodesic in curved spacetime. Your proper acceleration is zero. Relative to the ground (which has non-zero proper acceleration), you have coordinate accleration.

Sitting still here on the ground in Erf's gravitational field, your proper acceleration is 1g, pointing up. :-)

The Equivalence Principle is all about this. Let's go back to pure Newton. You are in a big spaceship, accelerating at 1g in free space, far away from any gravitational field.

Now, what do things look like to you in your accelerating reference frame. If you drop something, what happens?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:07 AM (w6EFb)

358 I always wondered how *32ft/sec/sec* was decided upon, as "C", acceleration?

But maybe I should be afraid (very afraid!) to ask...

Probably too elementary for the brainiacs here.

No offense intended! You all just carry on, and I'll read until I go cross-eyed. LOL.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:07 AM (rdVOm)

359 344 The DSA in it's "intellectual roots" is explicitly Moaist.

It looks to China, not Russia for its organizing principle.
Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:44 AM (BeyMP)

SWEEP AWAY ALL MONSTERS AND DEMONS!!!

Posted by: CPC, June 1966 at August 11, 2026 03:11 AM (ukytI)

360 *acceleration due to gravity* Ugh...

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:11 AM (rdVOm)

361 > 358 I always wondered how *32ft/sec/sec* was decided upon, as "C", acceleration?


That's g. The speed of light is c.

It wasn't decided on. It's a measured value.

If you drop something (in the absence of air resistance) it will be traveling at 32 feet/second after the first second, 64 feet/second after the second second...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 03:11 AM (IG3/x)

362 Some one should remind me to vote in the Very Special republican primary thing later today.

I voted earlier specifically to vote against Miss Lindsey (he might be alive if term limits were a law), and will vote against both his sister and Alan Wilson (son of my long-time congressman Addison "Joe" Wilson).

No family political dynasties.

Posted by: Active Two cents Worth Citizen Miklos at August 11, 2026 03:12 AM (XOG/m)

363 317 It's about time
It's about space
It's about physics
Farting in your face
Posted by: Miklos merrily sang that in the schoolyard at August 11, 2026 02:14 AM (XOG/m)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Mao at August 11, 2026 03:13 AM (ukytI)

364 Okay, my snack has kicked in enough to make my glucose alarm STFU.

Back to bed.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 11, 2026 03:13 AM (IG3/x)

365 If you drop something (in the absence of air resistance) it will be traveling at 32 feet/second after the first second, 64 feet/second after the second second...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Thanks. I knew I'd forgotten *something* about all that..

Been 50 years since I sat in that kollidge classroom and never used the info in any "career" since then.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:14 AM (rdVOm)

366 The Equivalence Principle is all about this. Thanks publius! I think I need to do some research & thinking. I'll let you know if something clicks. It is a lot of fun trying to answer these things that have bugged me for decades. Alas, I should have gone to bed two hours ago.

We have multiple teenagers now, but it still needs like I need a couple hours of peace and quiet before I go to bed. Any advice on that?

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 03:14 AM (rcENI)

367
The symbol 'c' for the speed of light comes from Latin "celeritas", meaning "swiftness". That's also the root of "acceleration", "ad + celer(something verb form), meaning to speed up, to hasten.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:14 AM (w6EFb)

368 362 Some one should remind me to vote in the Very Special republican primary thing later today.

I voted earlier specifically to vote against Miss Lindsey (he might be alive if term limits were a law), and will vote against both his sister and Alan Wilson (son of my long-time congressman Addison "Joe" Wilson).

No family political dynasties.
Posted by: Active Two cents Worth Citizen Miklos at August 11, 2026 03:12 AM (XOG/m)

No political dynasties, no offices passed down through families, and NO TERM LIMITS.

We need to quit using cop-outs of our civic responsibilities. Term limits are a lazy solution by the lazy, for the lazy, which winds up making people MORE lazy.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:15 AM (ukytI)

369 Cool. Thanks, publius!

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:16 AM (rdVOm)

370 No family political dynasties.

Posted by: Active Two cents Worth Citizen Miklos at August 11, 2026 03:12 AM (XOG/m)

I agree.
But I think it'll be between Darlene, Wilson and Ralph Norman.

Sanford doesn't have a chance.
I doubt he'll do well even in his home base down here in the Lowcountry.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:16 AM (6ydKt)

371
YEp, light is pretty damned swift all right.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:17 AM (w6EFb)

372 306 The murder of Charlie Kirk should have led to a furious backlash.

The fact that it didn't shows exactly how far down the humanist rabbit hole we have gone.
Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 02:02 AM (BeyMP

We Trust The System is what that means.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:17 AM (ukytI)

373 We need to quit using cop-outs of our civic responsibilities. Term limits are a lazy solution by the lazy, for the lazy, which winds up making people MORE lazy.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:15 AM (ukytI)

Some truth there but presidents have been term limited for eighty years. No reason congress shouldn't get the same treatment, except that they'd never vote for a limit to their own grift.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:18 AM (6ydKt)

374 SWEEP AWAY ALL MONSTERS AND DEMONS!!!

Posted by: CPC, June 1966

They should prove themselves by swimming the Yangtze River like the Great Leader.

https://tinyurl.com/45evan5d

Posted by: Miklos, emulating Lei Feng at August 11, 2026 03:20 AM (XOG/m)

375 >> Any advice on that?

Not a clue on that. :-)

In that Equivalence Principle thought experiment, what is the rate things "fall" when you drop them in your accelerating rocket. The feather and the rock "fall" at the same rate, don't they?

See the fictitious forces of non-inertial reference frames. Gravity acts just like that (over small distances where tidal gradients are negligible).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:22 AM (w6EFb)

376 ad + celer(something verb form)

Oh I can explain something to you for a change!

Every -tion ending is from a Latin -tum (perfect passive participle). AFAICT always via French.

But the coolest thing about Latin IMO is their future passive participle, meaning "needing to be". For example "Amanda" is "She who must be loved," and "reverend" is "he who must be revered." I've wished we had this in English many times, and sometimes I just make up words based on it. "Let me spend some time on the code refactorandum."

Posted by: frammish at August 11, 2026 03:22 AM (rcENI)

377 Sanford doesn't have a chance.
I doubt he'll do well even in his home base down here in the Lowcountry.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

I like Norman over Fry, although Fry seems good too

But Ralph has that relatable curmudgeon aspect

Posted by: Miklos, also thinking Ralph is a fine name for a Senator at August 11, 2026 03:23 AM (XOG/m)

378 >>>Any theory, no matter how elegant, must be tested against reality.

Posted by: Miklos and Feynman smoke weed and try Von Neumann on the Ouija Board

>Show me one practical application of all of this math and discussion of multiple dimensions.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 11, 2026 03:23 AM (iySPJ)

379
BTW, the speed of light, c, is now defined, not measured. The meter is defined in terms of how far light travels in a given time.

Also, the kilogram is no longer defined as that "hunk of metal in Paris". Planck's constant is now defined, not measured, and knowing c, and h, the kilogram is now derived. It was only recently that the technology to do that became practical. See the "Watt balance".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:25 AM (w6EFb)

380 In that Equivalence Principle thought experiment, what is the rate things "fall" when you drop them in your accelerating rocket.




I hear the Italians want to experiment by dropping shithole migrants of varying weights from that mis-engineered tower in Pisa.

Posted by: Miklos also leans a bit, depending on perspective at August 11, 2026 03:26 AM (XOG/m)

381 Love Trump but don't think he's real in touch with the youths today.

Was listening to podcast that scared me.

Seems the DSA is making real inroads with today's youths.

Giving them activities and meetings that lead to a sense of purpose.

This is a well funded and organized effort.

There is no comparable organized effort like this on the Right.
Posted by: LTG at August 11, 2026 01:25 AM (BeyMP)

I refuse to be complacent, but…the young don’t vote.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:27 AM (ukytI)

382
They should prove themselves by swimming the Yangtze River like the Great Leader.

https://tinyurl.com/45evan5d
Posted by: Miklos, emulating Lei Feng at August 11, 2026 03:20 AM (XOG/m)

Many did, in fact, back then.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:28 AM (ukytI)

383 They have renamed Charleston AFB to Joint Base Lindsey Graham.

Only took them a month.
They even remade the sign out front.

See? government can work quickly when it feels a need to.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:28 AM (6ydKt)

384 Been up for hours, but time to get moving

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2026 03:33 AM (Ia/+0)

385
Some truth there but presidents have been term limited for eighty years. No reason congress shouldn't get the same treatment, except that they'd never vote for a limit to their own grift.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:18 AM (6ydKt)

What will happen is this:

Voter participation will drop to near zero in the time before the term limit kicks in. “My Congresscritter is a bum but I am just going to wait until he is term limited out.”

I watched this play out in San Antonio when the city council got term limits.

You mention the presidency. I’d have the 22nd Amendment repealed if I were king for a day.

No term limits. You want better government? Go out and get it. Quit being lazy, and quit trying to make everyone else lazy. Being lazy is how we got here. The cure is not being more lazy.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:33 AM (ukytI)

386 383 They have renamed Charleston AFB to Joint Base Lindsey Graham.

Only took them a month.
They even remade the sign out front.

See? government can work quickly when it feels a need to.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:28 AM (6ydKt)

What?

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:34 AM (ukytI)

387 What?

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 11, 2026 03:34 AM (ukytI)

Hard to believe, I know.


As for term limits, they could make it more interesting by making the limits apply only to consecutive terms.

Limit to six consecutive terms for reps and two consecutive terms for senators. That way voters can bring back a favorite crook after he/she has a one term time-out after twelve years in office.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:42 AM (6ydKt)

388 >> Every -tion ending is from a Latin -tum (perfect passive participle).

Interesting.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:47 AM (w6EFb)

389 And another thing

Representatives, Senators, and all Federal employees should lose their special pension and healthcare programs.

Medicare and Social Security like everybody else.

Posted by: Miklos in best Andy Rooney voice (but without the Brezhnev eyebrows) at August 11, 2026 03:49 AM (XOG/m)

390 Every -tion ending is from a Latin -tum (perfect passive participle).



Quid est Demonstratum

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at August 11, 2026 03:51 AM (XOG/m)

391 Representatives, Senators, and all Federal employees should lose their special pension and healthcare programs.

Medicare and Social Security like everybody else.

Posted by: Miklos
---------

I whole-heartedly agree!

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:54 AM (rdVOm)

392 Medicare and Social Security like everybody else.

Posted by: Miklos in best Andy Rooney voice (but without the Brezhnev eyebrows) at August 11, 2026 03:49 AM (XOG/m)

If only we could get a majority of 535 people to vote against their own self-interest.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 03:55 AM (6ydKt)

393 It's fun to think that when Publius was gettin' learnt on physics, astronomy and stuff, my brain was hearing Latin and Medieval History and other stuff.

Takes all kinds, I reckon'

Posted by: Modestly Edumacated Miklos at August 11, 2026 03:56 AM (XOG/m)

394 >> Takes all kinds, I reckon'

Indeed, all kinds to make a world.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 11, 2026 03:57 AM (w6EFb)

395 I whole-heartedly agree!
Posted by: JQ

ROUND FOR THE HOUSE

ON THE HOUSE

Posted by: Easily manipulated Late Night Miklos at August 11, 2026 03:58 AM (XOG/m)

396 >>If only we could get a majority of 535 people to vote against their own self-interest.

If only we had a *system of checks and balances* or, you know, a couple of other "co-equal" branches of gubmint, to slap them down...

Oh, wait. It doesn't really work THAT way, does it?

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:59 AM (rdVOm)

397 Dang, I'm rummy and haven't even had any adult beverages tonight... ugh.

Good night, horde.

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 04:00 AM (rdVOm)

398 I like science, especially concepts and discoveries.

When it get to physics and the other math-centered sciences my brain feezes up and all I see is Arabic numerals and Greek letters.

I do admire the human abacuses among us, though.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 04:01 AM (6ydKt)

399 You know, if you want to feel like you're current with what's going on in pop music right now, but you don't want to actually listen to it, 13-17 minutes of Rick Beato breaking down the top songs on Spotify is a good proxy. The title is clickbait, there are several that sound like real songs:

Why Does Spotify Top 10 All Sound Like AI?
Spotify Top Ten, August 8, 2026
https://youtu.be/YNnvWLQlQM0

Posted by: SciVo at August 11, 2026 04:02 AM (Sy6m/)

400 Oh, wait. It doesn't really work THAT way, does it?

Posted by: JQ at August 11, 2026 03:59 AM (rdVOm)

It all works great, theoretically.


... and then the politicians and bureaucrats get involved.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 04:02 AM (6ydKt)

401 I like what Milei is proposing down in Argentina.

If the politicians and bureaucrats can't balance the budget then the politicians and bureaucrats don't get paid a salary until they do.

Nothing like hitting them where it hurts to narrow the focus.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 11, 2026 04:07 AM (6ydKt)

402 Anyone still up- a prayer request
There's a bad house fire several blocks from us- we're in no danger- but prayers for the owners and the VFD would be appreciated. We heard units come in from the closest towns and they seem to be getting it under control, but from what we can see from the back yard it looks like a near total loss.
Thanks.

Posted by: sal at August 11, 2026 04:12 AM (f+FmA)

403 House fires can be devastating

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2026 04:20 AM (Ia/+0)

404 NOT FOUND

Posted by: m at August 11, 2026 04:25 AM (odBC9)

405 402 Anyone still up- a prayer request
There's a bad house fire several blocks from us- we're in no danger- but prayers for the owners and the VFD would be appreciated. We heard units come in from the closest towns and they seem to be getting it under control, but from what we can see from the back yard it looks like a near total loss.
Thanks.
Posted by: sal at August 11, 2026 04:12 AM (f+FmA)

Prayers up, sal.

Posted by: m at August 11, 2026 04:26 AM (odBC9)

406 I like science, especially concepts and discoveries.



This is why I became an economist.

The truth is, economics is common sense in general action. The market can be compared to some aspects of physics, in which there is order within apparent randomness.

But try to tell the Ph.D. economist kids that.

Posted by: Dismally scientific Miklos at August 11, 2026 04:29 AM (XOG/m)

407 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at August 11, 2026 04:30 AM (odBC9)

408 TECH THREAD IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2026 04:32 AM (Ia/+0)

409 @sweden streetcar name is the earliest known Biden expression

Posted by: paulnjax at August 11, 2026 07:28 AM (PPnyU)

410 When a human is first developing, it starts as a single cell. Eventually, it's a ball of cells. The first "physical feature" to develop is a single indentation, or pore, on that ball of cells.

Eventually, that pore extends through the embryo and becomes the alimentary canal.

But that first indentation is not the entrance; it's the exit.

So, before any of us were anything else, we were all just an asshole.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2026 12:41 AM (VHUov)

Some of us never endeavor to move beyond that.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 11, 2026 07:52 AM (dK+Kv)

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