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Gun Thread: First August Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the First August Edition? I told you it was coming! I may not be around much in the comments so please don't burn the place down. Appreciate it!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

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This is what focus looks like

I preach a lot about fundamentals. Mostly the mechanical shooting fundamentals of stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger manipulation. To become a successful competitive shooter you need to add grit, determination, seemingly endless practice and the will to never quit. Those who have attended a TXMoMe have probably met lin-duh's spawn, appropriately named Spawn and maybe even seen her shoot on the ranges. I can tell you from years of experience in evaluating shooters that Spawn has skills.

Here is what lin-duh had to say about her recent trip to the National Matches.

Here is a picture of the spawn shooting her rimfire iron rifle at Nationals. Despite all the team drama this year she did well individually. This is the first year she won anything and it was all HOA awards. The second place RPO is the one she wanted the most and had the biggest field of competitors.

lin-duh

And here are the results:

3rd place Female Rimfire Revolver
3rd place Female Center Fire Revolver
2nd place Female Rimfire Pistol Optic


It's quite an achievement, so please join me in congratulating Spawn!

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This is what the result of focus looks like!

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S&W Model 60 .38 Special Restoration

Alternate title: Birth of a Pimp Gun. As you know, not a fan. Are you?

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Colt Python: Old v. New

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Inside Hornady's Accuracy Center

I'm not sure I knew that Hornady had an Accuracy Center.

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Our Pal Research Reactors

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Ax Weasel

Q: Weasel, do you know how are Blackwing pencils made, perchance?
A: Why yes, yes I do. Please see below.

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: The Seventh Green!

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Invasion Of The Saucer Men!

Holy crap! It's the gol'-danged saucer men!! Personally, I'd have preferred saucer babes, but whatever.

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal rhomboid scores again with this excellent review of the La Palina No. 4

La Palina is an old name in cigars, and one of the more interesting ones. It's an American company, not Cuban, Nicaraguan, or Dominican, and always has been. Founded at the end of the 19th century in Chicago by a Ukrainian immigrant, it was a victim of the Depression. It was revived in the early 2000s by the founder's grandson - who, interestingly, was the son of one of the big kahunas of broadcast TV (and radio before that), William S. Paley, of CBS. That grandson revived the company and brand, and now its managed by 2 cigar industry veterans. All of that to introduce a fairly ordinary cigar, the La Palina No. 4. Ordinary, but well made, tasty - and inexpensive. I happened upon a deal, $57/box, recently, and here we are.

The No. 4 is a Nicaraguan puro except for the Ecuadorean binder. Wrapper from Jalapa, fillers from there and two of the other major growing regions, Condega and Esteli. Construction is solid, draw is perfect. Reviews and marketing talk of cocoa and sweetness, for me there's more citrusy tang, slightly sweet wood, and some spice here and there. At under $3/stick for a long-filler cigar, this one's suitable for a yardwork cigar (or sorting brass, or cleaning guns), but it's nice enough that for now it's in my regular rotation. Normal price isn't much more painful, just shy of $4 each. So, a solid candidate if you're looking for good quality at a bundle cigar price.

Excellent, rhomboid! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World Bigly Recommended

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 02, 2026 07:00 PM (cpFbA)

2 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at August 02, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 02, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)

4 bang bang!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:01 PM (NnhvP)

5 Here, but not quick on the trigger.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:01 PM (LMRVO)

6 Woot! You go, Spawn!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)

7 Congrats, Spawn!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 02, 2026 07:03 PM (FZ29D)

8 Missed it by }.{ much.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at August 02, 2026 07:04 PM (Q/FnY)

9 Well, if Spawn is head of the HOA, I will not forget to pay my HOA fees !

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:04 PM (LMRVO)

10 lin-duh,
You should be extremely proud of your daughter's accomplishments. It takes time, ability, and training to hone what she can do and both of you deserve full credit for making that happen.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:05 PM (E4rtv)

11 Enriched urinal core

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 02, 2026 07:05 PM (dk17i)

12 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and greetings to our host Weasel!

Congrats Spawn on the fine finish at Nationals! Lin-duh, you should feel justifiably proud on supporting her through all the practices, travel, ammo purchases, etc.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 07:06 PM (xVpNO)

13 Way to shoot, Spawn!

Also, way to let the drama run right off of your feathers. Until I had three daughters, I did not understand how much of a valuable trait that was for a female to possess.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 02, 2026 07:08 PM (HlyYF)

14 Hornady bullets. Several years back one of my coworkers called me over. "You gotta see this!" he said. "Here's a Youtube video from Hornady about how they are putting tiny cameras in the tips of bullets so you can see where they are hitting the target!"

Sure enough, the video was of a bullet's-eye view as it rushed downrange and into the paper.

I felt kind of bad about it when I pointed out to him that the issue date on the video was April First.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 02, 2026 07:09 PM (M3IEo)

15 Weasel, vacation from retirement good?

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:09 PM (30Gj0)

16 Greetings!!!

Congrats to Spawn on here achievements in the Nationals!!!!!

Well done!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:09 PM (g5tO/)

17 Well done Spawn!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:10 PM (NnhvP)

18 The Riddler is in the saucer movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 02, 2026 07:10 PM (Cqx++)

19 Congratulations to an amazing young lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:11 PM (abScH)

20 I haven't been to the range yet as I have my six month appraisal from the neurosurgeon about the surgery success this coming week. But, I have went through, categorized spare parts, and ironically found some screws that fit an ancient Parker Hales screw mount so the Parker Hale scope rail could be attached the mount. I was looking at having to pay about $25 bucks for imported screws from Britain as these are BA--British Association std. which doesn't match any domestic sources, metric, or even old British standards.

Turns out I had some spare Lee Enfield BA 4 screws for the front sight guard that fit perfectly. Some kind soul had listed all the Lee Enfield screw specifications for ALL the Lee Enfield models which is how I knew what to look for.

So a 4x pistol scope in now mounted to a No. 4, Mk 1* Savage Lend Lease Lee Enfield. When I bought the barrelled receiver to restore, someone had locked the bolt into the slide by cocking it but then putting the safety on and firing it. Had to dissassemble the action to fix it. The No. 4 had been tapped on the left receiver wall for a scope--but which mount--took about fifteen years to find the mount and rail that fit.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:13 PM (E4rtv)

21 Heya lin-duh!

Congrats, Spawn!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 02, 2026 07:15 PM (5ExGj)

22 Well, I got nothing this week.

I do not think I will be able to go shooting until near the end of August.
Between work, finding a new apartment, cleaning out the current apartment my weekends are not very free.
And I wonder when I do move to a new apartment what the neighbors will think of all the ammo cans I am bringing in. :-)

And on a non shooting related subject, I did get to see Rush at Madison Square Garden this past Thursday.

Awesome show.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:17 PM (g5tO/)

23 So, the Lee Enfield finally has the proper scope mounted on it with the proper screws--only took 15 years or so to get all the parts. Now to make sure that the scope is leveled, screws applied with loctite, and sighted in using a green laser @100 yards.

If you do have one of these old warhorse military types, pistol scopes are often the best because they have long eye relief and you are not going to be shooting 10 MOA at 1000 yards with them. 200-400 yards at most were the standard.

But you can have a lot of fun shooting them with reduced loads at about 100 yards if you are willing to shoot cast lead.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:18 PM (E4rtv)

24 Kudos to Spawn. Has she tried shortening up the stock on that rifle?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 07:18 PM (vTZFs)

25 Congrats to Spawn!! I shot with her a couple of years ago at the TX MOME and she had skills then.

I did make it to the range this weekend. More as a fun shot than seriously working on fundamentals. We had different guns to try - I am mostly a S&W guy and he leans more to Sig. One thing that we did that was much harder than it looks is walking and firing toward the target. Definitely need more fundamentals!!

Posted by: Lurking in Garland at August 02, 2026 07:18 PM (j9Bn5)

26 Well done Parents of Spawn. Well done.

A lot of parents down here, I notice now, are getting daughters especially into FFA and such. Real skills.

Well done again. And I'm sure she can out-shoot me by far. Hell, I can't see anymore without a Scout Scope.

Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:21 PM (CxvtJ)

27 And I wonder when I do move to a new apartment what the neighbors will think of all the ammo cans I am bringing in. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:17 PM


Fill one ammo can with art supplies, and leave it open in a highly visible location.

Don't flex when you carry the actual heavy cans.

Misleading hoplophobes is a noble pursuit!

P.S. Howdy, Scoobs!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 02, 2026 07:23 PM (HlyYF)

28 Congrats to Spawn! She is amazing!!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 02, 2026 07:23 PM (PcoR0)

29 One of the challenges when an old military rifle has been drilled and tapped for mounts is figuring out exactly what mount was used, the proper screws, etc. I have another old Mauser 98k Oberndorf that was tapped for scope mount. I finally found via Brownell catalog that gave the distance between screws, the screw pitch and thread of the tapped hole etc. that a Warne scope mount would work. That took a bit of research as well.

Brownell catalogs and online are always useful for determining old sporting parts and standards including scope rings as long as most of it is domestic.

I forgot to mention above that I have Parker Hale HA3 scope rings of the proper size to go with the A29 scope mount and the BA-24 scope rail. The A29 uses BA 2 1/2 screws and the BA-24 uses BA 4 1/2 inch screws. Putting it down, just in case I forget, I can always look it back up here.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:24 PM (E4rtv)

30 Congratulations Spawn!
Kudos to you Lin-Duh for supporting her every step of the way. Any competition at this level requires time and patience and usually some amount of money. ❤️🤠

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 02, 2026 07:24 PM (kJmSS)

31 Birth of a Pimp Gun

No, that's not a pimp gun. I mean it's a little flashy, but it's not really over that line.

Now, THIS is a pimp gun:
https://ln.run/psurm

Or THIS:
https://ln.run/F4dxk

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:24 PM (kU0PQ)

32 27 P.S. Howdy, Scoobs!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 02, 2026 07:23 PM

Howdy P.I.!!

Will keep that ruse in mind! ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:25 PM (g5tO/)

33 Sckobs, are you rehomed?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:26 PM (abScH)

34 Pillage Idiot, I saw that you are both going to make it this year. Happy dance.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:28 PM (abScH)

35 33 Sckobs, are you rehomed?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:26 PM

Not yet, in the process of looking for a new apartment. I have until mid October to move out of my current abode.

But I am hoping I find a place in the next two or three weeks and then work on moving.

Also, need to look up and see if I have to notify the police of my address change in regards to my handgun and rifle license.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:29 PM (g5tO/)

36 Hello Weasel! Congratulations to Spawn for her well-deserved medals in a tough field!

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:31 PM (BCwQW)

37 Range Report! Range Report!
The DMV MGC met up at the range even having to drive through heavy rainstorm to get there. But we are dedicated to practicing our Fundamentals so braved the weather. 6 of us so we took 3 lanes so I Could work with Ed. I am pretty set on buying the S&W Bodyguard 2 but can't try one out first. I decided to rent a gun in 380 just to get a feel for the different ammo. The guy at the range recommended a Glock 42 as it is similar in size to the Bodyguard. He also had Ruger but as I shoot Glocks rented the Glock.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 02, 2026 07:32 PM (kJmSS)

38 So lin-duh, what is next in Spawn's firearms pursuit?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:32 PM (g5tO/)

39 Third accomplishment related to shooting this week is setting up for decommissioning a BUNCH of poorly reloaded ammo by my FIL. He was lonely and alone after my MIL died and spent his time spending money on reloading and never actually going out to shoot.

Problem was he lacked concentration and ability to shut out distractions like phone calls, etc. and thus his reloads were known for being dubious to start and he kept poor records of what powder, etc.

So I have to decommission about 10,000 or so rounds by pulling bullets, dumping powder, and salvaging the primed brass and bullets if I can.

To that end, I setup up a wall mount Frankford Arsenal Pile Driver, it uses inertial bullet pulling.

I have done collet bullet pulling with a press, also inertial with the various hammer types. The Pile Driver is made for mass bullet pulling as it has its own springloaded self contained puller that is mounted on a stud wall and makes a pretty loud racket as it slams home to a stop and pulls the bullet.

Going to give a helluva workout to my arms.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv)

40 Spawn. A young lady that accessorizes with a gun safe.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:35 PM (abScH)

41 BTW, I don't believe the guys in tonight's Highway Patrol were real golfers. Their pants weren't nearly ugly enough.

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:35 PM (kU0PQ)

42 Pertaining to nothing - I guess something - I've got a Lee Turret press I've never used. Because Surplus Ammo is cheap enough in my calibers.

I'd like to give the damn thing away to a good home.

Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:36 PM (CxvtJ)

43 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.

https://tinyurl.com/3fb3mfpu

* (the one near me although I was not near it at the time)

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 07:38 PM (vTZFs)

44 BTW, I don't believe the guys in tonight's Highway Patrol were real golfers. Their pants weren't nearly ugly enough.
Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:35 PM (kU0PQ)

NO SPRINGS! HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Coily the Spring Sprite at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (0aYVJ)

45 Nearly forgot, 4th accomplishment, applied some Glow-On phosphorescent paint to gun sights. If you shine a bright LED flashlight on them or even just ambient lighting, these will glow for a decent time after 10-20 minutes perhaps.

Useful for old firearms with dead tritium inserts or that only had three dot sights or long arms that never had them. The colors themselves are of bright hues not found in nature so they also function quite well in daylight hours to distinguish sights. A small bottle from Amazon will do a lot of sights. Runs under twenty bucks.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (E4rtv)

46 I have done no gub stuff apart from a little snap cap practice with the Sig - I got a brainstorm to try some of my old single vision glasses, as I can't focus on the front sight with my progressives. (It helped a bit. I might bring these glasses on the next range outing, whenever that may be. I am currently working a side gig plus commuting 45 minutes 3x per week and spending the rest of my free time working in the effing yard)

But I did get some good news re: the MoMe. Thanks to a change in my boss' plans, I can take off enough time to drive to TX instead of flying in.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (PcoR0)

47 Piper-

Pearl or Lone Star, beats Shiner (as a name)!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (Wj1DV)

48
* sniff *

I remember Spawn (what was it, 8 or 9 years ago at the rain TxMoMe?) chasing a kitten, and then a year or two later so very tentatively trying out a .22 pistol at the range. Over the next couple of years, that tentativeness disappeared.

And now look at her!

* sniff *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (0sNs1)

49 Pearl or Lone Star, beats Shiner (as a name)!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM


But NOT as a beer. Shiner Bock, FTW!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 02, 2026 07:40 PM (0sNs1)

50 Also, that country club is now in the middle of what appears to be a built-up, fairly nice suburb north of Northridge (of the quake) and west of Sylmar.

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (kU0PQ)

51 Sorry, meant for previous thread.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (Wj1DV)

52 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.

https://tinyurl.com/3fb3mfpu

* (the one near me although I was not near it at the time)
Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 07:38 PM (vTZFs)
A worthy Darwin Award Honorable Mention (i.e. he tried really hard, but failed in his attempt)?

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (BCwQW)

53 Ed brought several others including a 32 and a 9 and I also had my G48 with Optic.
I could shoot the G42 fairly accurately right away. The iron sights almost identical to my G48, little recoil but had so,e trouble with the trigger pull. Shot the 32 and liked the trigger better but not much difference. I like the CC9 but it is too big to carry. Put another 25 rounds through the G42 getting better and more comfortable. I shot even better one handed. Either an optic it should be perfect. Ed also helped correct so,etching I was doing between shots that he,led tremendously. Nice having a personal RSA. Can't thank him enough. Feel confident about buying the gun now.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (kJmSS)

54 Duncanthrax, we can both say we knew her when she was knee high to a grasshopper

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (abScH)

55 I can take off enough time to drive to TX instead of flying in.
Posted by: screaming in digital

Congrats, driving is so much better!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:42 PM (NnhvP)

56 43 Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 07:38 PM

I wonder if he will release the video and if it will wind up on The AK Guys Darwin Awards video.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 02, 2026 07:42 PM (g5tO/)

57 43 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.

https://tinyurl.com/3fb3mfpu

* (the one near me although I was not near it at the time)
Posted by: Oddbob
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One born every minute. I've bought used guns and I get them home and test them with snap caps or dummy rounds before I ever try putting live rounds in them.

Not to mention, new guns usually have shipping grease and you really should clean all such firearm barrels and chambers before using them. Lube them too.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:43 PM (E4rtv)

58 I should really reread my comments before I post.
Sigh

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 02, 2026 07:44 PM (kJmSS)

59
And now look at her!

* sniff *
Posted by: Duncanthrax

She sure took to Jim's gift quickly!

I think of him while I'm in the threads.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:44 PM (NnhvP)

60 One born every minute. I've bought used guns and I get them home and test them with snap caps or dummy rounds before I ever try putting live rounds in them.

Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.

Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:45 PM (CxvtJ)

61 Duncanthrax, we can both say we knew her when she was knee high to a grasshopper
Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM


I thought about using that exact phrase, but thought that some of the under-19s who inhabit the GT might not get it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 02, 2026 07:46 PM (0sNs1)

62 46 I have done no gub stuff apart from a little snap cap practice with the Sig - I got a brainstorm to try some of my old single vision glasses, as I can't focus on the front sight with my progressives. (It helped a bit. I might bring these glasses on the next range outing, whenever that may be. I am currently working a side gig plus commuting 45 minutes 3x per week and spending the rest of my free time working in the effing yard)

But I did get some good news re: the MoMe. Thanks to a change in my boss' plans, I can take off enough time to drive to TX instead of flying in.
Posted by: screaming in digital
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Old fashioned bi-focals, not progressives, can help with that issue as well.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:46 PM (E4rtv)

63 -
Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:32 PM
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Since you have a big job ahead of you, and a relatively consistent bullet puller, there might be an opportunity for an experiment. Try pulling the bullets with the Pile Driver as is, and then pull a number of them after running the cartridges through a bullet seater that sets the bullets a bit deeper in the neck. (thereby breaking any "cold-weld" that might exist)
If the broken "cold-weld" requires fewer "pile-drives" than the non-broken, knowledge might be gained.

Posted by: irright at August 02, 2026 07:46 PM (28n8R)

64 And, great job, Spawn! I know you're proud of her, Lin-duh!

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:46 PM (kU0PQ)

65 52 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.

https://tinyurl.com/3fb3mfpu

* (the one near me although I was not near it at the time)
Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 07:38 PM (vTZFs)
A worthy Darwin Award Honorable Mention (i.e. he tried really hard, but failed in his attempt)?
Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (BCwQW)


Dagnabit, Nebraska people are supposed to be smarter 'n that! That state has really gone downhill since I left twenty-some years ago...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 07:46 PM (xVpNO)

66 Got some sad but not unexpected news. Mike Beliveau, Duelist1954 on YT, passed away this week from pancreatic cancer. He had the grace to let his followers know what was happening and how he would handle it. He went out on his own terms. Prayers, of course, for his family. A lot of tributes have already been posted.

I've followed Mike's magazine articles and videos for years. His passing is a loss for the hobby, especially those who enjoy black powder shooting.

Damn!

Posted by: JTB at August 02, 2026 07:48 PM (yTvNw)

67 Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.
Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:45 PM (CxvtJ)


What am I? A potted plant? I'll get your fingers, my pretty!

Posted by: Table Saw at August 02, 2026 07:48 PM (xVpNO)

68 But I did get some good news re: the MoMe. Thanks to a change in my boss' plans, I can take off enough time to drive to TX instead of flying in.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 02, 2026 07:39 PM (PcoR0)

Wife and I would prefer that as well. We are not averse to long road trips. But, it will come down to PTO. Boise to Corsicana is a long haul, and must be multiplied by 2 for the round trip.
Long, long, road trip.

That said, still better than air travel.

Posted by: Coily the Spring Sprite at August 02, 2026 07:48 PM (0aYVJ)

69 Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.
Posted by: Howdy
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I do wood and light metal working off and on and yes, I have the even older Radial Saw which can actually switch axis, table saws, drill presses, etc.

A negative hook blade help prevent the blade crawling to you on radials or compound miters. Really should not use the blades for table saws on radial or compound miters because table saw blades have a positive hook to feed the material into the saw--don't want that with a radial or a compound miter.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:49 PM (E4rtv)

70 A worthy Darwin Award Honorable Mention (i.e. he tried really hard, but failed in his attempt)?
Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:41 PM (BCwQW)


Along those lines, would this fella be a candidate for at least half a Darwin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwF0gmLhHPg

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (xVpNO)

71 Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.
Posted by: Howdy


Yeah, very tip of L middle finger is missing.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (NnhvP)

72 Not to mention, new guns usually have shipping grease and you really should clean all such firearm barrels and chambers before using them. Lube them too.
Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:43 PM (E4rtv)

The grease/oil in new firearms is designed as a preservative. It's not meant for lubrication. That's because the manufacturer has no idea how long that gun will sit on a distributor's or LGS's shelves before it goes home with someone. The last Colt Python (2020 edition) I bought was practically swimming in grease inside its plastic bag. I guess was worried that something would happen to that high end polish job on that revolver. Removing all that grease was a bit of a PITA. I had to throw that bag away because there was so much grease in it on the inside.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (BCwQW)

73 Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.
Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:45 PM (CxvtJ)

What am I? A potted plant? I'll get your fingers, my pretty!
Posted by: Table Saw at August 02, 2026 07:48 PM


Pffft.

Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)

74 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.


Along with Fundamentals, there are Four Rules. They are there for a reason.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:51 PM (30Gj0)

75 Good evening to all of the GunHorde!
Mostly gardening and landscaping but a bit of plinking with the air rifle.

Have a great week everyone and a bigly thank you to Weasel

Posted by: Coelacanth at August 02, 2026 07:51 PM (zqeQL)

76 Sheds sock.

24 hours one-way. Boise to Corsicana. We are good with that. It really boils down to whether I have enough PTO.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide Gen X at August 02, 2026 07:52 PM (0aYVJ)

77 Mr. Matthews asks "Does your husband have a gun or a revolver."
Ummmm....

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:52 PM (kU0PQ)

78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwF0gmLhHPg
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy

Half of his gene pool DOH!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:52 PM (NnhvP)

79 Most dangerous thing in my home ? My 12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw. You can take an arm off with that thing even if you know what you're doing.

I am never more nervous than when I'm using that.
Posted by: Howdy at August 02, 2026 07:45 PM (CxvtJ)

What am I? A potted plant? I'll get your fingers, my pretty!
Posted by: Table Saw at August 02, 2026 07:48 PM

Pffft.
Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM


Double pfffft.

Posted by: Ben Had's Kitchen Table at August 02, 2026 07:53 PM (nt1Vu)

80 Congrats to the young female shootist. Well done.

Wease what’s burning tonight?

For me just finishing a My Father La Duena lancero on a nice breezy hot (for here) summer day.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2026 07:54 PM (QPjUO)

81 Since you have a big job ahead of you, and a relatively consistent bullet puller, there might be an opportunity for an experiment. Try pulling the bullets with the Pile Driver as is, and then pull a number of them after running the cartridges through a bullet seater that sets the bullets a bit deeper in the neck. (thereby breaking any "cold-weld" that might exist)
If the broken "cold-weld" requires fewer "pile-drives" than the non-broken, knowledge might be gained.
Posted by: irright

Excellent idea. Some of these have been loaded over ten years ago. Mix of rifle, 44 Magnum, and other pistol bullets. Mainly 7.62x51, 30-06, and .223 in rifle, 44 Magnum, 38 Special, 9mm, and 45 ACP wadcutters.

The revolver rounds, I will probably have to pull with a collet on the press because of I dunno how much crimp he applied. Might have to do that on the 45 ACP, though I hope not (he used to shoot IDPA so he has several 50 caliber ammo cans filled with those).

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:54 PM (E4rtv)

82 Hello folks. "Invasion of the Saucer Men" has Frank Gorshin in it, for those who follow such things.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 02, 2026 07:56 PM (CHHv1)

83 The grease/oil in new firearms is designed as a preservative. It's not meant for lubrication. That's because the manufacturer has no idea how long that gun will sit on a distributor's or LGS's shelves before it goes home with someone. The last Colt Python (2020 edition) I bought was practically swimming in grease inside its plastic bag. I guess was worried that something would happen to that high end polish job on that revolver. Removing all that grease was a bit of a PITA. I had to throw that bag away because there was so much grease in it on the inside.
Posted by: Ed L

Yep. Ironically you do NOT remove the bronze colored gunk inside a new glock slide. That is a compound that is designed to season the parts as it breaks down. From Glock, "The bronze-colored gunk found on a new Glock slide is a factory-applied copper-colored anti-seize lubricant. Glock explicitly states that this substance should not be removed, as it is designed to be burnished into the steel to provide long-term lubrication for the slide rails." aka Glock Fungus.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)

84 Yeah, we could fly, but, while I love being in a plane, I hate all the other shit involved, check-in, car-rental, rental car turn in, check in again.

Buth, the whole plane part. I love it. But I gotta have a window seat.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide Gen X at August 02, 2026 07:56 PM (0aYVJ)

85 Congratulations, lin-duh and family!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 02, 2026 07:56 PM (CHHv1)

86 whig the pile driver puller is new to me. Hoping I never need one. So far the hammer type has sufficed. And I have a collet puller for 30-06 and .556 that fortunately I have barely used.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2026 07:57 PM (QPjUO)

87 Along those lines, would this fella be a candidate for at least half a Darwin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwF0gmLhHPg
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (xVpNO)

He's worthy of an Honorable Mention too. But he's got the guts to make a video about it and tell folks what he did wrong so it doesn't happen to someone else. Most folks who survived what he did to himself wouldn't dare come forward to talk about what happened and to critique himself and what he did wrong. You have to give the man props for that.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 07:58 PM (BCwQW)

88 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by boom bang pew at August 02, 2026 07:58 PM (sAmhv)

89 24 hours one-way. Boise to Corsicana. We are good with that. It really boils down to whether I have enough PTO.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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I bet that would be an awesome road trip. I did Laramie to Corsicana twice and loved it. It's not as cool from upstate SC, but a good drive except for ATL. Only one Buc-ees on my route, though. On two occasions from here I have carpooled with GT morons which was a blast. Would love to do that again.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 02, 2026 08:00 PM (PcoR0)

90 Congratulations, lin-duh.

Perhaps you could display a picture of your medals as a warning to bad guys.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 02, 2026 08:00 PM (lrMw0)

91 The Guns of August

Wait. Maybe don't use this for a title this month.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by boom bang pew at August 02, 2026 08:00 PM (sAmhv)

92 Yep. Ironically you do NOT remove the bronze colored gunk inside a new glock slide. That is a compound that is designed to season the parts as it breaks down. From Glock, "The bronze-colored gunk found on a new Glock slide is a factory-applied copper-colored anti-seize lubricant. Glock explicitly states that this substance should not be removed, as it is designed to be burnished into the steel to provide long-term lubrication for the slide rails." aka Glock Fungus.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)

Never knew that about Glocks. Haven't bought any, though. The only Glock I have (Glock 19) was heavily modified by B&T to produce their Hush Puppy platform. I didn't see that copper colored gunk on my Hush Puppy, though.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 08:03 PM (BCwQW)

93 Birth of a Pimp Gun

No, that's not a pimp gun. I mean it's a little flashy, but it's not really over that line.

Now, THIS is a pimp gun:
https://ln.run/psurm

Or THIS:
https://ln.run/F4dxk
Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 07:24 PM

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I'm surprised that our former President knows so much about pimp guns.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 02, 2026 08:03 PM (tLVLK)

94 86 whig the pile driver puller is new to me. Hoping I never need one. So far the hammer type has sufficed. And I have a collet puller for 30-06 and .556 that fortunately I have barely used.
Posted by: rhomboid

Pile driver is easier on my hands with arthritis than the hammer type especially for repetitive removal. I've use the collet before primarily on some 9mm because I bought a pistol of Euro make that disliked truncated cone bullets intensely. Had to pull them as I only had one 9mm at the time.

I dislike doing disassembly of cartridges on the press because it is a messy process, powder invariably spills. The pile driver even has a spot where you can mount a hose to the bottom to dump the powder in a bucket if you do a lot.

The plants around the house I guess are going to appreciate the nitrogen boost when I water the powder in.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:04 PM (E4rtv)

95 The Scheels in Sparks NV is the only one I have visited. Great store. Bought boots from the very knowledgeable young woman clerk. They send these employees to conferences where they learn about shoe and boot design.

But the cool part of that visit was encountering the young clerk in the gun department named Earp - and yes he is directly related. Have told that story before.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2026 08:05 PM (QPjUO)

96 Pug, I sure hope you get the time off
I would've to see you both again

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 08:05 PM (abScH)

97 Perhaps you could display a picture of your medals as a warning to bad guys.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 02, 2026 08:00 PM (lrMw0)

And the targets.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 08:05 PM (BCwQW)

98 I would love to see you both again.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 08:06 PM (abScH)

99 Never knew that about Glocks. Haven't bought any, though. The only Glock I have (Glock 19) was heavily modified by B&T to produce their Hush Puppy platform. I didn't see that copper colored gunk on my Hush Puppy, though.
Posted by: Ed L
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Lots of weird things that manufacturers do which is why it pays to RTFM.

I am guessing the guy in Oddbob's warning post somehow did not do that or his booger hook somehow got inside the trigger guard when racking it. And the racking pulled it right into the trigger firing it.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:06 PM (E4rtv)

100 Half of his gene pool DOH!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 07:52 PM (NnhvP)


Better than half of his chromosomes, I guess.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 08:07 PM (xVpNO)

101 Congrats to her. She'll be ready if needed someday like the Idaho Cowboy who helped stop more deaths at the In and Out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 02, 2026 08:07 PM (n5tGW)

102 Congratulations to Spawn! She shot my Garand last year with nary a flinch. You done made us proud!

Posted by: fd at August 02, 2026 08:07 PM (MWfyi)

103 Along those lines, would this fella be a candidate for at least half a Darwin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwF0gmLhHPg
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at August 02, 2026 07:50 PM (xVpNO)

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I wonder how many of the other guys laughed when the title popped up on the screen. Maybe because I was expecting death.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 02, 2026 08:07 PM (enwbs)

104 whig like the Plains Indians I make use of all parts of the animal - and yes the powder goes to herbs or tomatoes and lettuce if in season.

Imagine you’re going to have a nice yield of primers from this operation. Always good to have lots of primers.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2026 08:09 PM (QPjUO)

105 One other example is Ruger's early 357 Magnum SP-101s are only designed for 125 grain hollow points, not the heavier bullets. Warning is actually engraved on the handgun but some still failed to read it.

And some GP-100's and SP-101's are 38 Special only. Fortunately, you cannot fit a 357 in them but I'd imagine that some people have tried.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:10 PM (E4rtv)

106 Had a nice range day with the younger this week - an all .22 time. 2 pistols, one revolver, a lever, and two SA rifles...

Fun time, and good to work on stance and grip...

Posted by: man at August 02, 2026 08:12 PM (cGjQu)

107 FWIW, anyone having to do a bunch of bullet pulling, here is Frankford Arsenal's Piledriver.

https://tinyurl.com/Frankford-Arsenal-Piledriver

Makes a pretty big racket but the nice thing is that the cartridge is aimed at the floor which adds a margin of safety in pulling the bullets that the hammer type inertial puller does not have.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)

108 104 whig like the Plains Indians I make use of all parts of the animal - and yes the powder goes to herbs or tomatoes and lettuce if in season.

Imagine you’re going to have a nice yield of primers from this operation. Always good to have lots of primers.
Posted by: rhomboid

Nephew fires 44 Magnum so I will be giving him the primed brass when I teach him how to reload safely. The 30-06 will be used for Garand loads, and the others for various projects. But frankly, I am well overstocked on primers except magnums and black powder percussion caps.

Ditto on a lot of range lead and fmj pistol bullets and 223/308 rifle bullets. Due to my late FIL stash and mine, I won't probably have to buy primers for the rest of my life if I can get back to my normal 2000-3000 rounds per year pace before my back problems. I never was into mag dumping anyway even when ammo was cheap.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:17 PM (E4rtv)

109 Armed citizen helped stop the Twin Falls shooter from continuing his rampage.

Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:19 PM (KC5Lt)

110 106 Had a nice range day with the younger this week - an all .22 time. 2 pistols, one revolver, a lever, and two SA rifles...

Fun time, and good to work on stance and grip...

Posted by: man
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I get just as much of a kick from firing 22 LRs as I do bigger bores. Obama and his scares in office still piss me off for driving 22 LR to unaffordable price levels for awhile.

I never saw a 22 LR shortage coming and ended up buying some 32 S&W Long revolvers so I could do some low recoil practice.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv)

111 Armed citizen helped stop the Twin Falls shooter from continuing his rampage.
Posted by: polynikes


Apparently used a FiveseveN. Someone ( not me ) should start to a GiveSendGo to pay for the ammo. $5000 should do it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 02, 2026 08:21 PM (diia5)

112 Along with Fundamentals, there are Four Rules. They are there for a reason.
Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:51 PM

*nods*

Rule #1 is particularly important.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 08:23 PM (Wnv9h)

113 Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 02, 2026 08:21 PM (diia5)

Did they say it jammed , Cause it coulda jammed.

Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:24 PM (KC5Lt)

114 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

After a fabulous post-DMV Moron Gun Club range trip repast, we came home and shortly thereafter the power went out so might as well let the food coma settle in. Woke from the nap to find we are still out of power.

So the generator is fired up and generating.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:25 PM (NlEaG)

115 RMBS, did you go look at the property?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 08:26 PM (abScH)

116 Did they say it jammed , Cause it coulda jammed.
Posted by: polynikes


I just watched the stuff on X, but it does look like he had a problem with something and tumbled down the embankment outside the In N Out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 02, 2026 08:29 PM (diia5)

117 An early thanks to Weasel and the Horde for tonight's Gun Thread. See y'all 'round.

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 08:31 PM (kU0PQ)

118 Blaster, my genset tests itself every Sunday. Just fired up. 500 gallons of propane, underground tank.
I feel very thankful during New England hurricane season. And Winter. And spring and fall.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 08:31 PM (LMRVO)

119 Range trip today we took sra blaster's Kimber Raptor II and my Franken-dagger. It's not as Frankenish as it used to be as the gun is fully a Dagger. But the slide and frame were acquired separately, an inexpensive green dot affixed on top, and an ebay acquired 3d printed magwell flare affixed on the bottom. It is less than $400 all in.

Did some good shooting with both.

It annoys me sometimes when the cheap guns shoot as well as the more expensive ones.

sra blaster's vision is changing of late. She is not a fan of dots and has been happier with irons. But she shot the Dagger with the dot very well today, and she had a hard time picking up her sights on the Kimber.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:33 PM (NlEaG)

120 The Guns of August

Wait. Maybe don't use this for a title this month.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by boom bang pew at August 02, 2026 08:00 PM (sAmhv)

I have never read that book. But that is a powerful title for a book about the Great War. It really hits a nerve.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide Gen X at August 02, 2026 08:34 PM (0aYVJ)

121 FWIW, anyone having to do a bunch of bullet pulling, here is Frankford Arsenal's Piledriver.

Surprisingly affordable. When Frankford Arsenal first came on the scene (or at least to my notice) I considered them a second tier "budget" brand. More recently, I have bought and used their powder trickler and their lemon-squeezer priming tool and found both very good. Not up in the Sinclair or K&M tier but more than serviceable at a good price point.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 08:34 PM (vTZFs)

122 -
Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 07:54 PM
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If there are any significant results and you wrote it up in that week's AOSHQ gun thread, I bet I'm not the only one who would be interested.

Posted by: irright at August 02, 2026 08:36 PM (28n8R)

123 118 Blaster, my genset tests itself every Sunday. Just fired up. 500 gallons of propane, underground tank.
I feel very thankful during New England hurricane season. And Winter. And spring and fall.
Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 08:31 PM (LMRVO)


Here in temperate Northern Virginia in the tony suburbs of Fairfax, we have at least one multi-hour outage a year. This is our second this year. I just have a portable genset and a manual transfer switch, but we upgraded that generator a couple of years ago to an 11k unit that runs multi-fuel. So I have to roll it out and hook up the propane tank and plug it in. But I am very glad to have it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:37 PM (NlEaG)

124 Hi! Just got here.

For the first time I noticed really inaccurate range activity on a TV show: 2 shows actually. Two people shooting (wearing eyes and ears). Then they stop and they TAKE OFF their ear protection and talk (still right there at the lane) and then they shoot again without putting their ears back on!! Really obvious if you know anything about shooting.

Thanks Horde for teaching me how this works!

Posted by: Iris at August 02, 2026 08:38 PM (286+n)

125 Along with Fundamentals, there are Four Rules. They are there for a reason.
Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 07:51 PM (30Gj0)

Honestly, those Four Rules ARE the FIRST fundamental.

Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 08:40 PM (kU0PQ)

126 120 The first chapter of The Guns of August, centered on the funeral of Edward VII, is some of the finest historical writing in English.

The rest of the book is very good, too. But that first chapter rocks.

Posted by: Bulg at August 02, 2026 08:41 PM (77rzZ)

127 The British police are now using the Glock AR rifle. The GR-115.

I will never understand why Glock would leave millions on the table and not make there own PCC but risk millions building an AR platform when there is so much competition with that platform.

Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:41 PM (KC5Lt)

128 Blaster, we lose power at least a dozen times a year. Lots of branches falling, trees toppling, wind storms, snow storms. Probably the best decision I made when we built.
Or was that the gas fireplace that heats the whole house?

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 08:42 PM (LMRVO)

129 I have a lever gun, which is unusual. The unusual part being the "a" part. sra blaster was looking in the display case at the range and is taken with a Marlin SBL in the case. Stainless with the gray wood furniture. That's the one Chris Pratt had in Jurassic World. Well, his was 45-70 and this is .357 but same difference.

sra blaster says "Chris Pratt is a really good actor."

So, anyway, I expect that an SBL is our future.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:43 PM (NlEaG)

130 Surprisingly affordable. When Frankford Arsenal first came on the scene (or at least to my notice) I considered them a second tier "budget" brand. More recently, I have bought and used their powder trickler and their lemon-squeezer priming tool and found both very good. Not up in the Sinclair or K&M tier but more than serviceable at a good price point.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Their wet tumbler system is the first that I used along with their packet detergent. I switched to that before I stopped shooting and did a bunch of once fired brass in covid era before that. Puts a nice sheen on the brass and cleans the primer pockets thoroughly. Frankford's Pins are magnetic stainless and didn't rust after multiple uses.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:43 PM (E4rtv)

131 Honestly, those Four Rules ARE the FIRST fundamental.
Posted by: GWB at August 02, 2026 08:40 PM (kU0PQ)

Correctomundo!

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 08:44 PM (LMRVO)

132 If there are any significant results and you wrote it up in that week's AOSHQ gun thread, I bet I'm not the only one who would be interested.
Posted by: irright
========
Yes. If you get one, be sure to read the reviews as like Lee products, there are always some useful tips and kludges to make them work better from prior users for products like these.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:45 PM (E4rtv)

133 Also lin-duh congrats to the Spawn! Good to know the country has a future!

Posted by: Iris at August 02, 2026 08:46 PM (286+n)

134 Also lin-duh congrats to the Spawn! Good to know the country has a future!

Posted by: Iris at August 02, 2026 08:46 PM (286+n)

135 127 The British police are now using the Glock AR rifle. The GR-115.

I will never understand why Glock would leave millions on the table and not make there own PCC but risk millions building an AR platform when there is so much competition with that platform.
Posted by: polynikes

I think Glock's primary market is to law enforcement and security and neither has much interest in a PCC--they typically use either rifle cartridges, some shotguns, and pistolas nowadays.

Ironically, I think Smith and Wesson has went the opposite direction by aiming at the consumer market more than law enforcement nowadays.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:48 PM (E4rtv)

136 I will never understand why Glock would leave millions on the table and not make there own PCC but risk millions building an AR platform when there is so much competition with that platform.
Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:41 PM (KC5Lt)

Are you talking the Euro market or the US market? I think Glock's decision makes sense if viewed from the Euro market lens. A Glock PCC (i.e. SMG) would have to take on the H&K MP5 platform, a well proven, highly thought of product that's still, some 40+ years after the SAS assault on the Iranian Embassy, the most sought after SMG on the planet today. Everybody in Europe, from the London Met Police and the SAS, to the GIGN and GSG-9 counter-terror teams, Polish GROM commandos, and even President Zelensky's personal security detachment uses one variant or another of the MP5. On the other hand, the AR platform is a relative newcomer to the Euro market, with the most common version being the variants of the H&K 416 adopted by the French, Norwegian, and German militaries. Colt and FN have made little headway in selling the AR-15 platform in Europe so far, nor have they put in much effort.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

137 The internet thinks it has identified the Idahoan who joined in to help take out the shooters there. A quote from his X feed:

train like your life depends on it because God forbid, one day it might

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:54 PM (NlEaG)

138 123:Here in temperate Northern Virginia in the tony suburbs of Fairfax, we have at least one multi-hour outage a year. This is our second this year. I just have a portable genset and a manual transfer switch, but we upgraded that generator a couple of years ago to an 11k unit that runs multi-fuel. So I have to roll it out and hook up the propane tank and plug it in. But I am very glad to have it.
Posted by: blaster



In my little part of Soviet Fairfax, power is on. Didn't go out at all. When it does, it's not out long. My proximity to WMATA station probably helps a bit.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by boom bang pew at August 02, 2026 08:55 PM (sAmhv)

139 Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:48 PM (E4rtv)

Don't disagree but their US consumer market would make them millions with a PCC. I don't understand why they couldn't do both.

Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:56 PM (KC5Lt)

140 So, anyway, I expect that an SBL is our future."

I've fired an SBL in .44 mag. The rifle itself was beautifully done - a very well made rifle. Accurate, and handled the round well...

Posted by: man at August 02, 2026 08:57 PM (XuXeR)

141 Northern Virginia in the tony suburbs of Fairfax, we have at least one multi-hour outage a year"

Used to be unheard of there... sad, really.

Posted by: man at August 02, 2026 08:58 PM (XuXeR)

142 Gunmen in Idaho were Bosnian Muslims?

What in the Wide wide world of sports is going on here?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:58 PM (NlEaG)

143 Don't disagree but their US consumer market would make them millions with a PCC. I don't understand why they couldn't do both.
Posted by: polynikes

Glock is kind of like Ruger was when Bill Ruger was alive. If Bill didn't want to sell some product, the company didn't. Same for Gaston from what I understand. But frankly, I don't think Glock has much interest now in the consumer market while ironically, S&W having lost its preeminence in the leo market is returning to the consumer market.

Companies go through cycles like Colt letting its fabled revolvers and most of its pistol lines go fallow in pursuit of defense contracts.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 08:59 PM (E4rtv)

144 Their wet tumbler system is the first that I used along with their packet detergent. I switched to that before I stopped shooting and did a bunch of once fired brass in covid era before that. Puts a nice sheen on the brass...

Maybe I'll try that. I use Dawn dish soap. It cleans fine and the brass comes out looking like new but tarnishes before it's finished drying.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 09:00 PM (vTZFs)

145 Used to be unheard of there... sad, really.
Posted by: man at August 02, 2026 08:58 PM (XuXeR)


To be fair - we live in the woods. Our property backs up to a state park.

Our neighborhood has utilities underground. But the lines that lead to our neighborhood....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:00 PM (NlEaG)

146 RMBS, did you go look at the property?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 02, 2026 08:26 PM


Decided to pass. The property comes with a 25 year solar panel lease that would have had me buying 5-8 times more power than I would need, with the ability to sell back a tiny fraction to the grid. Economically not worth it. That's probably why the property has been on the market for 2 months.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 09:02 PM (Wnv9h)

147 Gunmen in Idaho were Bosnian Muslims?

Source? The report I saw from the Twin Falls chief of police (or sheriff?) was that the guy's name was Chad Williams. Which I guess doesn't necessarily rule out Bosnian Muslim but sure doesn't sound like it.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 09:03 PM (vTZFs)

148 The Guns of August. Been a while since I read it; i believe the author made the point that a lot of stupid world leaders started this war.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 02, 2026 09:04 PM (SiYsC)

149 142 Gunmen in Idaho were Bosnian Muslims?

What in the Wide wide world of sports is going on here?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:58 PM (NlEaG)


Oh. Fake news. Never mind /Littella

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:04 PM (NlEaG)

150 The first chapter of The Guns of August, centered on the funeral of Edward VII, is some of the finest historical writing in English.

The rest of the book is very good, too. But that first chapter rocks.
Posted by: Bulg
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And it truly was the Guns of August. The French had 27,000 dead on a single day in August 1914. More than the Brits on the first day of the Somme.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 02, 2026 09:04 PM (XvL8K)

151 Don't disagree but their US consumer market would make them millions with a PCC. I don't understand why they couldn't do both.
Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 08:56 PM (KC5Lt)

Don't forget that there's a little fracas going on in Eastern Europe that's got everyone jacking up their defense budgets in addition to supplying the Ukrainians that's good for billions every year. Maybe Glock thinks it's easier chasing those some of those billions rather than competing in the tough (by comparison) US commercial market.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 09:05 PM (BCwQW)

152 Gunmen in Idaho were Bosnian Muslims?

What in the Wide wide world of sports is going on here?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 08:58 PM (NlEaG)

We moved to Idaho to get away from this. And yet. Here we are. Again.

We saw some kind of fucking mooslim protest on the green belt. So we had to go somewhere else to take our walk.

Also, most of the black people I see in my AO are not regular American black folks. They are African or Caribbean.

The invasion is nefarious.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide Gen X at August 02, 2026 09:06 PM (0aYVJ)

153 Chad Williams is an Americanized name of a Bosnian Muslim?

Posted by: polynikes at August 02, 2026 09:12 PM (KC5Lt)

154 And it truly was the Guns of August. The French had 27,000 dead on a single day in August 1914. More than the Brits on the first day of the Somme.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 02, 2026 09:04 PM (XvL8K)

It just wasn't one bad day. It was two whole months of a continuous bloodbath for the French. French records state that in August and September (the archives were in horrible shape for August due to the confusion of mobilization) France suffered some 300,000 KIA or MIA. That implies that some 100,000 were lost just in August alone, with even more in September as the fighting intensified at the Battle of the Marne and afterward.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 09:14 PM (BCwQW)

155 Maybe I'll try that. I use Dawn dish soap. It cleans fine and the brass comes out looking like new but tarnishes before it's finished drying.
Posted by: Oddbob
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If you go commercial for the brass detergent, go with Lemmishine which has citric acid in it. That is what brightens up the brass. I had packets that came with the wet tumbler and they did fine so I just kept using that. Lemmishine is kind of like finding actual all copper Choreboy pot scrubbers nowadays or janitorial grade ammonium cleaner.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 09:17 PM (E4rtv)

156 Thank you everyone. We are VERY proud of the spawn. Her goal this year is to come in first place in RPO for state. She won 6 2nd place medals for state this year.
We are waiting on college acceptance/rejection letters. We should have answers for all 5 schools she applied to around Thanksgiving at the latest. If she gets into her number one choice then she'll try out for their marksmanship team. None of the others have shooting teams.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:20 PM (VCgbV)

157 Oh, and I also use a brass dryer, Lyman, to dry the brass after being wet tumbled. That prevents watermarks on the brass.

Some folks use food dehydrators for the same task which can be a bit cheaper and to be honest were probably off the same assembly lines as the brass dryers except at a lower price.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

158 I guess it is time to thank Weasel san for his generous hosting of us. So thanks to him and all the commenters tonight from me.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 09:23 PM (E4rtv)

159 Ok y'all. 9:25 thank you time.

Thank you!

Appreciate your being here and hope to see you next week!

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:25 PM (OenlC)

160 Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:20 PM (VCgbV)

Lin-Duh, has spawn looked at ROTC scholarships? I think all of the services (and the USCG) have their own marksmanship teams. They're always looking for fresh talent.

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 09:25 PM (BCwQW)

161 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at August 02, 2026 09:26 PM (BCwQW)

162 If she gets into her number one choice then she'll try out for their marksmanship team. None of the others have shooting teams.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:20 PM (VCgbV)
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Even if they don't have an official marksmanship team, they may have a recognized student organization that serves a similar function.

And if they don't, maybe she can start one!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 02, 2026 09:29 PM (FZ29D)

163 We are waiting on college acceptance/rejection letters. We should have answers for all 5 schools she applied to around Thanksgiving at the latest. If she gets into her number one choice then she'll try out for their marksmanship team. None of the others have shooting teams.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:20 PM (VCgbV)


Wow college that's crazy.

Any interest in the service academies? Several people here who can fill you in on the process....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:30 PM (NlEaG)

164 So this happened this week. Some doofus bought a pistol at Scheel's*, went out in the parking lot, loaded it, and was allegedly showing his girlfriend "how it worked." You can probably guess where the story goes from there.
Posted by: Oddbob


I guessed worse. I figured he put an extra hole in his girlfriend. He just put an extra hole in himself. That's a better outcome.

Posted by: mikeski at August 02, 2026 09:32 PM (VHUov)

165 Oh, and I also use a brass dryer, Lyman, to dry the brass after being wet tumbled. That prevents watermarks on the brass.

Some folks use food dehydrators for the same task


Ah, maybe that's the secret sauce I'm missing. A food dehydrator sound like the kind of thing that might show up at a thrift store or craigslist. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 09:34 PM (vTZFs)

166 Not much gun-related other than getting an approved Form 1 back to SBR my Skorpion (CSA, not CZ). Need to get that one and my quasi-Thompson engraved and then convert them over, once I chase down an electrical issue here at the house.

Last night was beautiful here so I sat on the back porch listening to Country Gold and smoking a CAO Pilón Añejo. Pretty nice cigar, easy draw, very even burn. Will have to get some more of those.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 02, 2026 09:35 PM (myHFR)

167 La Libertad Nicaragua for this evening's selection!

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:40 PM (OenlC)

168 Power is back.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:42 PM (NlEaG)

169 Too late for the service academies. She is trying for the Corps at Texas A&M so she's looking at ROTC scholarships. It's the largest Corps outside of the service academies.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:42 PM (VCgbV)

170 Thank you weasel!!😊

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:42 PM (VCgbV)

171 Ah, maybe that's the secret sauce I'm missing. A food dehydrator sound like the kind of thing that might show up at a thrift store or craigslist. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Frankford Arsenal's is an exact shape of the most common food dehydrators. I prefer the rectangular Lyman which is present in fewer food dehydrators. But all of them work to get rid of the moisture present. So does bright hot sunlight but then you have to turn the brass and winters in some locations forestall that particular kludge.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 09:43 PM (E4rtv)

172 For me just finishing a My Father La Duena lancero on a nice breezy hot (for here) summer day.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2026 07:54


Hmmmm
Gonna add it to my list.
No cigar today. But several Moscow mules. (Use keylime limes)

Posted by: Diogenes at August 02, 2026 09:43 PM (2WIwB)

173 Even if they don't have an official marksmanship team, they may have a recognized student organization that serves a similar function.

And if they don't, maybe she can start one!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 02, 2026 09:29 PM (FZ29D)


Or check with the ROTC department. They may have a shooting team.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 02, 2026 09:45 PM (2WIwB)

174 Thank you weasel!!😊
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:42 PM (VCgbV)
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Thank YOU!

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:45 PM (OenlC)

175 169 Too late for the service academies. She is trying for the Corps at Texas A&M so she's looking at ROTC scholarships. It's the largest Corps outside of the service academies.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:42 PM (VCgbV)


I would suggest it is not...recruiter came to my high school October of my senior year. But A&M is a good option!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:45 PM (NlEaG)

176 166 Not much gun-related other than getting an approved Form 1 back to SBR my Skorpion (CSA, not CZ). Need to get that one and my quasi-Thompson engraved and then convert them over, once I chase down an electrical issue here at the house.

What are the typical times for ATF approval on Form 1 now? I understand for suppressors, it is down to a couple of weeks.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 09:46 PM (E4rtv)

177 We're staying in Texas so we know which schools have shooting teams. Not many is the answer.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:46 PM (VCgbV)

178 Thank you for the GT Weasel.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 09:47 PM (NnhvP)

179 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 09:47 PM (NnhvP)
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:49 PM (OenlC)

180 Service academies are super competitive now. I know the AF Academy only takes 1500 a year. We had 2 kids that got in last year and they started preparing as freshman. She is in JROTC so has some insight into the service academies and they werewolf coming around recruiting.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:49 PM (VCgbV)

181 First time to the range this year - took my youngest of four for her first time shooting - like her sister, less excited than her two brothers (first visit mandatory - 4 rules of gun safety, these aren't like you see in TV, etc - subsequent visits optional) - but she had a good time - 10/22, Ruger Mk 3, then tried the beretta 92x compact. Liked the beretta - esp. when I taught her to lean into the recoil - all in all, good first trip for her.

Posted by: MD_Mike at August 02, 2026 09:49 PM (oBxub)

182 Weren't not werewolve...🤪

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:50 PM (VCgbV)

183 good first trip for her.
Posted by: MD_Mike

Congrats, nice work

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 02, 2026 09:51 PM (NnhvP)

184 176 What are the typical times for ATF approval on Form 1 now? I understand for suppressors, it is down to a couple of weeks.

This one was a little over a month and a half for approval, whig. Submitted 5/12, approved 8/1 (on a Saturday, is the ATF feeling ok?), eforms with a trust.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 02, 2026 09:51 PM (myHFR)

185 MD_Mike
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How old is she's?

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:52 PM (VCgbV)

186 To add to my previous reply, suppressors seem to be about a month or so with a trust. Haven’t done any individual ones so I have no idea on those, they could be coming back in a couple weeks.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 02, 2026 09:52 PM (myHFR)

187 She is in JROTC so has some insight into the service academies and they werewolf coming around recruiting.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:49 PM


Werewolf?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 09:54 PM (Wnv9h)

188 182 Weren't not werewolve...🤪
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at August 02, 2026 09:50 PM (VCgbV)


Honestly if you told me that USAFA was a bunch of werewolves I could not argue that they aren't.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 02, 2026 09:55 PM (NlEaG)

189 Werewolf?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 09:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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Spec Ops

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:56 PM (OenlC)

190 Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel.

See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 02, 2026 09:57 PM (Wnv9h)

191 Adios, RMBS!

Posted by: Weasel at August 02, 2026 09:59 PM (OenlC)

192 Service academies are super competitive now. I know the AF Academy only takes 1500 a year.

Any chance of getting a recommendation from your congressman? I mean, I'd bet Brandon Herrera would do it but he won't be a congressman until January.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 02, 2026 10:00 PM (vTZFs)

193 184 176 What are the typical times for ATF approval on Form 1 now? I understand for suppressors, it is down to a couple of weeks.

This one was a little over a month and a half for approval, whig. Submitted 5/12, approved 8/1 (on a Saturday, is the ATF feeling ok?), eforms with a trust.
Posted by: Arch Stanton
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Not bad on return time compared with prior administrations.

Posted by: whig at August 02, 2026 10:03 PM (E4rtv)

194 School of the Ozarks for Spawn. 4 year Aeronautical degree plus commercial multi engine instrument rating.

Posted by: Eromero at August 02, 2026 10:04 PM (LHPAg)

195 Even the congress critters are selective on who they'll recommend and usually have a set number they give out every year.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 02, 2026 10:04 PM (VCgbV)

196 Nite, Weasel. Hope you had a good vacay!

Posted by: RI Red - at August 02, 2026 10:07 PM (tez/p)

197 Nood, Morons!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 02, 2026 10:08 PM (hzuYO)

198 On a not fun, serious topic -
I watched the micro red dot on pistols thing from the sidelines for a few years due to having different financial priorities. I carried iron sighted service pistols for a paycheck for years and am more proficient than most, so I felt it was a "some day" thing.

Some day came. And, holy shit. Most benefits I saw talked about were shooting on the move and odd positions, but what was undersold was effective range. 100 yards was fairly easy for a torso sized target, and farther was doable. After the Dicken shooting where the dude nailed a rifle armed shooter, I decided it was time to update my carry pieces.

Was wanting to snag at least one more and was actually out looking right before this In-n-out burger shooting. That incident really reinforces that you may need to take on a rifle armed dirtbag with just a pistol. You need a very good consistent presentation to do well with a dot, but if you have that down it is a massive leap in capabilities for a pistol. So much so that I'd consider having half as many pistols just to have dots on them.

Posted by: heya at August 03, 2026 12:09 AM (ctAuL)

199 the home owners association?
any pocketable .38 special is ok, no ejected brass.
cheapest la palina by me is $8, going up to $22 a stick.

Posted by: cmeat at August 03, 2026 09:32 AM (Bep7s)

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