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Nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:01 PM (NcvvS) 2
And SPONGE!!
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (NcvvS) 3
Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (/+uur) 4
According to South Carolina law, the state will hold a special primary election on Aug. 11 to find a GOP nominee to appear on the ballot in November’s general election.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (/+uur) 5
He's dead now, and only a classless person like Ana Kasparian would post something like "good riddance!" Which is exactly what she did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (edUvp) Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (5MUB0) 7
I'm reading that when the doctors told his family he had suffered a heart attack, they replied "that's good. He would have preferred that to heart negotiations."
Posted by: Reality Bites at July 12, 2026 12:03 PM (KbeaJ) 8
Miss Lindsey had the balls to call everyone involved with the Ballsy Ford incident a liar, cheat, and scoundrel.
So there is that. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:03 PM (/+uur) 9
Good afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2026 12:04 PM (Ia/+0) 10
Hope SC can do a little better on a Senator
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2026 12:04 PM (Ia/+0) 11
Steve Schmidt also ripped on Miss Lindsey.
I will not waste the bits/bytes and post here. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:04 PM (/+uur) 12
5 He's dead now, and only a classless person like Ana Kasparian would post something like "good riddance!" Which is exactly what she did.
Your concern for the man who referred to dead Russian people as "the best money we ever spent" is touching. Posted by: Reality Bites at July 12, 2026 12:05 PM (KbeaJ) 13
3 Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
oh please God no Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at July 12, 2026 12:05 PM (j+aD2) 14
The CIA Heart Attack Gun was a covert assassination weapon developed during the Cold War under Project MKNAOMI, designed to kill targets with undetectable symptoms that mimicked a natural heart attack. The device was a modified Colt M1911 pistol, electrically powered by a battery, which fired a frozen dart composed of saxitoxin (a potent shellfish neurotoxin) mixed with water.
The existence of the gun was revealed in 1975 during the Church Committee hearings, led by Senator Frank Church, when CIA Director William Colby presented the weapon to Congress. It's not inconceivable that . . . (cue eerie conspiracy and geopolitk intrigue soundtrack) Posted by: Count de Monet at July 12, 2026 12:05 PM (wVcYX) 15
Lot of conversation on this in the late ONT, the Tech Thread, and the Book Thread.
Graham was very good at his chosen trade, politics. If the governor appoints a solid conservative, that person would have the inside track in the primary and then in November. Definitely a trade up. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:05 PM (NcvvS) 16
I wasn’t a big fan but he was right on several things, not the least of which was strong support of Israel. It’s kinda shocking because 71 is not all that old… at least not as old as that age used to sound to me… Nancy Mace is not the answer to this question
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:06 PM (26GAh) 17
To bad someone didn't have this death bet as the next Senator dying. Would be like winning a lottery
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2026 12:06 PM (Ia/+0) 18
5 He's dead now, and only a classless person like Ana Kasparian would post something like "good riddance!" Which is exactly what she did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (edUvp) ---------- Ax not for whom the bell tolls girfren. Posted by: Based John Donne at July 12, 2026 12:06 PM (eOFY+) 19
I won't miss him.
Do better this time, South Carolina. Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2026 12:06 PM (TSpzX) Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 12:07 PM (5MUB0) 21
It is true, as far as it goes, that spook agencies at least as far back as the 1950s were very intent on developing a “heart attack” substance that would be virtually undetectable during autopsy for wet work. But if you hear hoofbeats, think Horses, not Zebras. Sen. Graham had heart disease or a history of same in his family line. It is of course possible the clot shot exacerbated this. Or it is conceivable he was targeted, I suppose, for some special treatment by (let me check the internet…
They are blaming Jews, Moslems, Rotarians, Democrats, Chamber of Commerce, and the Maple Syrup Committee (so far). He had an extensive list of enemies Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:07 PM (OWbRf) 22
Nine senators are retiring — five Republicans and four Democrats — creating 12 open seats, as Democrats defend nine incumbent seats and Republicans defend 15.
Also VJ JD Marco and Now Miss Lindsey Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:07 PM (/+uur) 23
They are blaming Jews, Moslems, Rotarians, Democrats, Chamber of Commerce, and the Maple Syrup Committee (so far). He had an extensive list of enemies
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:07 PM (OWbRf) I had Rastafarians in the Library with a bong Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:08 PM (/+uur) Posted by: Count de Monet at July 12, 2026 12:09 PM (wVcYX) 25
Paramount’s New Star Trek Reboot May Move Forward Without Captain Kirk
- All Mr. Sulu all the time? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 12, 2026 12:09 PM (ndZc7) 26
Judgment.
And it's the Republican good ol' boy machine here that kept supporting him. He won 56.8% of the second primary vote, which is still way too much. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 12, 2026 12:09 PM (w6EFb) 27
I tend to think of a heart attack as not a “sudden illness” but rather a “medical event”. Precision, of course, in language, died a long time ago. But it still kind of rankles.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:10 PM (OWbRf) 28
25 Paramount’s New Star Trek Reboot May Move Forward Without Captain Kirk
- All Mr. Sulu all the time? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 12, 2026 12:09 PM (ndZc7) ----- Revenge of the Redshirts... Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 12, 2026 12:10 PM (eOFY+) 29
Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
Posted by: r hennigantx Has she ever won a state wide race? I think most people see her as a MTG or Boebart type (she voted to impeach Trump, if I recall right). Also, I think the Lt Gov (female) is also considering. I know nothing about SC. Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 12, 2026 12:11 PM (l26NL) Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 12:12 PM (6wpGE) 31
Dang!
I cannot believe the vile comments coming out from the left. Even a few personal friends. (Perhaps former) Despicable. Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2026 12:12 PM (2WIwB) Posted by: banana Dream - It's probably not a goth girl thread - sad face at July 12, 2026 12:12 PM (3uBP9) 33
A definite low point -
Lindsey Graham reportedly urged Capitol Police to use lethal force against rioters during the January 6 attack, specifically telling the Senate sergeant-at-arms to "Take back the Senate! You’ve got guns. Use them." Further claims, detailed in former officer Michael Fanone’s book Hold the Line, state that Graham later told law enforcement they should have "shot them all in the head" because they were given guns for a reason. Graham’s office has characterized these reports as consistent with his immediate post-riot statements, where he publicly asserted that "lethal force should have been used" once rioters penetrated the Capitol. Posted by: Count de Monet at July 12, 2026 12:12 PM (wVcYX) 34
Is South Carolina in play for the Democrats? Probably not, but the good people of the Palmetto State have been electing Graham for quite a while, so their judgement when it comes to the proper conduct of a United States Senator is just a bit suspect.
Posted by CBD One of the reasons Graham was reelected is his office's strong advocacy for South Carolinians. He inherited that formidable machinery from the late Strom Thurmond. I had a Finance instructor at USC Columbia who used to be an IRS agent. She regaled us with stories involving that Thurmond advocacy. She said when his office made an inquiry on behalf of a constituent they dropped everything and got the Senator an answer/ resolution tout suite. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (lJ0H4) 35
We are seeing both parties in the middle of a reform movement.
Now - many here will get the immediate red ass at that statement right there. Because of the context that "reform" naturally leads to something better - and many of you don't like where the DNC is headed. Some of you, if honest, don't like the same reform that maybe has put the GOP on its current trajectory. But that's what it is. McConnell and now Graham are two Old School GOPe members that didn't like where the GOP is heading - and stopped it whenever they could. You'll see, when Pelosi and Schumer eventually move off ... the same reaction from the DNC. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (5V1rK) 36
There are 35 seats up for election this fall, 22 held by GOP and 13 by Dems, the usual 33 of this cycle plus filling Vance's and Rubio's terms.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (NcvvS) 37
I don’t like the impulse anywhere it happens to dance on graves. There are some people where that’s appropriate: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, ayatollahs, etc etc…. I don’t think any US politician belongs in that company… it discounts how very bad they were
It was unseemly when people cheered the death of Charlie Kirk and I think also unseemly in this case even though he was far from my favorite republican Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (ugElV) 38
Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (/+uur) Nancy Mace understands what the people need and that's more Nancy Mace. -- Nancy Mace Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 12, 2026 12:14 PM (ExV1e) 39
Who will assume the mantle of War Pig now?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 12, 2026 12:14 PM (0sNs1) 40
Benjamin Domenech @bdomenech 7h I called Lindsey Graham a dangerously insane neocon and the next time we saw each other he hugged me and said "everyone's got an opinion". Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (6wpGE) 41
RIP, Senator Graham.
You were the epitome of keeping your sexual preferences out of public and a fine example of what so many conservatives say they believe, that they don't care what you do as long as it's behind closed doors. There were many reasons to dislike him, but constant nattering about him being gay seems the weakest because I never saw or read where he pushed that agenda. Posted by: old chick at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (F3Dlr) 42
RIP Lindsey. He could have stayed home and grilled cheeseburgers but he wanted to be Secretary of State 2.0.
I don't have a dog in the next fight coming up. It'll probably be like Conor McGregor vs. Max Holloway 3. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (cI/Fd) 43
>>Further claims, detailed in former officer Michael Fanone’s book Hold the Line, state that Graham later told law enforcement they should have "shot them all in the head" because they were given guns for a reason. Graham’s office has characterized these reports as consistent with his immediate post-riot statements, where he publicly asserted that "lethal force should have been used" once rioters penetrated the Capitol.
Women often get hysterical when subjected to trauma. Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (5MUB0) 44
I am sure we all had our moments of absolute frustration with Lindsey Graham. But there were moments of great, too. All of that aside, when Lindsey was 21, he lost both of his parents. He raised his sister, who was 13 at the time. As all the parents of girls know, 13 is an age where they are…gems. It turns out those pictures of him alone in Disney World were actually him with his sister, her children and her grandchildren. He protected their privacy.
My heart goes out to his sister, her family, and his friends. Where we see a political figure, they saw a member of their family, and I am sure the suddenness of this is very, very difficult for them. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (Dd38x) 45
If the governor appoints a solid conservative, that person would have the inside track in the primary and then in November. Definitely a trade up.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:05 PM (NcvvS) If. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e) 46
I saw a YT headline that the IRGC are claiming credit . . .
Well Hal Lindsey Graham was in Kyiv Friday on his Logan Act Tour — looking out for his personal finance interests. He was supposed to be on a talking head show today. Graham also featured on an Iranian Kill List. I'm guessing that something that he ate disagreed with him. Posted by: Community Notes at July 12, 2026 12:16 PM (rgGn5) 47
3 Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM ------ (damaged goods) Posted by: Mr. Subliminal at July 12, 2026 12:16 PM (azNOR) 48
Miss Lindsey had the balls to call everyone involved with the Ballsy Ford incident a liar, cheat, and scoundrel.
So there is that. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:03 PM (/+uur) I thought it very telling that the only conservative Lindsey ever defended was Kavanaugh, and that was because they'd gone to the same school vat some point. Lindsey had nothing to say when normies were attacked/killed by leftists. Nor when a representative was shot and nearly killed by a leftist. Not even when another Senator was attacked and nearly killed by a leftist. The "old school tie" being slandered was the only thing that got him upset enough to say something. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 12, 2026 12:16 PM (lFFaq) 49
I'm reading that when the doctors told his family he had suffered a heart attack, they replied "that's good. He would have preferred that to heart negotiations."
Funny. Slightly cruel, in questionable taste, but funny. VDH winces but secretly smiles inwardly. Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2026 12:16 PM (vTZFs) 50
If the governor appoints a solid conservative, that person would have the inside track in the primary and then in November. Definitely a trade up.
Posted by: Nazdar McMaster is a garbage human. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2026 12:17 PM (BAWkL) 51
28 25 Paramount’s New Star Trek Reboot May Move Forward Without Captain Kirk
- All Mr. Sulu all the time? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 12, 2026 12:09 PM (ndZc7) Opening scene mutiny led by goateed evil Spock starts with Spock Killing Kirk in the first thirty seconds of the movie. Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 12, 2026 12:17 PM (w/O5Q) 52
Stephen L. Miller retweeted Steve Guest @SteveGuest 4h Never forget Lindsey Graham’s amazing sense of humor—during the heated Kavanaugh confirmation fight: Protester: Kavanaugh should take a polygraph. Sen. Lindsey Graham: "Why don't we dunk him in water and see if he floats?" Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (6wpGE) 53
The "old greek homos" being slandered was the only thing that got him upset enough to say something.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (Kt19C) 54
It was unseemly when people cheered the death of Charlie Kirk and I think also unseemly in this case even though he was far from my favorite republican.
Meh. Whatever. Its time to get real. I wasn't cheering for Miss Lindsey to croak. But I won't miss him either. On the balance ? Addition by subtraction. And another old codger that held onto power until he couldn't. Why are we ruled by a bunch of dudes and chics in their 70s ? Why are we supposed to like it ? I'm only 54. Yet I'm looking at my day to day and trying to figure out how to exit stage left and just enjoy my time. You telling me Lindsey was such an intellectual tour de force that we just couldn't collectively do without him ? Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (5V1rK) 55
I had Rastafarians in the Library with a bong
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:08 PM Ask not for whom the Rastafarian bongs. He bongs for Jah and Haile Selassie. Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (0sNs1) 56
I think there's time for the S.C. governor to appoint a temp to take Graham's place until a special election can be held.
From "RightJournalism dot com: Names already being floated in early conversations for a potential appointment include Mark Lynch (who ran against Graham), Nancy Mace, John Warren (who ran for governor in 2024), Andre Bauer (former Lt. Gov.), and current Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette. Caton noted these are just the names circulating and that Governor Henry McMaster will ultimately make the appointment, with significant input expected from President Trump. Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (jehhT) 57
If.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic I just read there's a rumor he'll appoint Joe Wilson who is 7 years older than Miss Lindsay and who's son is evidently going to be the next governor of SC. I love rumors. Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (l26NL) 58
Mourning? Why? CongressMONSTERS dropping like flies just like MissionSpecialist/Scientists nationwide, meh.
This is how AI WAR I starts heating up; the slow speed 911 (people, not buildings) the 9/10 thinking that is until it isn't. One does not need theWargames-Movie/Wopper computer run by grok to predict this. The desperate and deliberately evil know, that Good Dies the hero or lives long enough to become the Villian -- their villian, that's what's happening now. Agent Orange isn't the target, but it is intuitively obvious (even to the GROK/Wopper) that the only way to hurt the target more is to give him back something broken. Agent orange should return the favor, for all the left of launch bravado, why aren't they using it? like the scene in stMovie/Wrath of Khan -- ordering Reliant to drop its shield -- but in this case not just that but to target the population centers both their own, each other, and their neighbors rather than the military targets. The 'war' would end in an afternoon. If not now, when? Why? Well, there is profit in war, but only at a distance, which is why Brennan, his undead, and Dimon are the obstacles to the real peace. Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 12, 2026 12:19 PM (zmxbb) 59
As for all the conspiracy theories going on, I think our government is to blame for everything having to be something untoward. However, the reality might be much more simple - he had high blood pressure. He wasn’t amazingly fit. A heart attack like a widow maker is not really a far stretch.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:19 PM (Dd38x) 60
He's dead now, and only a classless person like Ana Kasparian would post something like "good riddance!" Which is exactly what she did.
Posted by: Tom Servo ------ Why, it's almost as if Progressives are by nature uncivilized and tasteless. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (XeU6L) 61
36 There are 35 seats up for election this fall, 22 held by GOP and 13 by Dems, the usual 33 of this cycle plus filling Vance's and Rubio's terms.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (NcvvS) There are 5 (R) and 4 (D) retirees. So 12 open senate seats. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (/+uur) 62
Dick Morris says Sen Graham was a trusted advisor to President Trump and was the only senator he would listen to.
Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (y171U) 63
Lindsey was just another criminal in a suit that stole millions from the treasury, profited from endless "wars" and the deaths of Americans abroad all the while wrapped in the flag and singing "God Bless America" and denying his homosexuality publicly.
He will be quickly forgotten and will not be missed. Posted by: The Truth at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (ftsic) 64
Women often get hysterical when subjected to trauma.
Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM Calmly telling them to "Calm down." is often efficacious. Posted by: HordeSource (tm) at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (0sNs1) 65
As for all the conspiracy theories going on, I think our government is to blame for everything having to be something untoward. However, the reality might be much more simple - he had high blood pressure. He wasn’t amazingly fit. A heart attack like a widow maker is not really a far stretch.
His father died from a heart attack. They do run in families. My dad's dad died at age 50 from one, my dad at age 70. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 12:21 PM (lJ0H4) 66
Dick Morris says Sen Graham was a trusted advisor to President Trump and was the only senator he would listen to.
Because Dick Morris would definitely know that. Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2026 12:22 PM (vTZFs) 67
>>Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 12, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
Early this morning, someone said that the governor would likely appoint the lieutenant governor who lost the primary to succeed him. The LtGov was Trump-endorsed, FWIW. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:22 PM (NcvvS) 68
And still Chuck Schumer lives on …
Posted by: Gonzotx at July 12, 2026 12:23 PM (nGraA) 69
By George, I think he figured it out! Not Democratic Socialists of America but . . .
Spencer Pratt @spencerpratt DSA = Destroying Society Altogether Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 12, 2026 12:23 PM (ndZc7) 70
If I'm the governor, I appoint myself - solves all issues of bad faith accusations arising later (like favoritism, corruption, or bribery). But I know nothing about the SC Gov, or whether he's allowed to appoint himself...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2026 12:24 PM (tOcjL) 71
Sen. Graham had his moments, high and lows both.
Legendary constituent services, military service. I'm not aware of any political scandals or personal life scandals. Condolences to his family. Posted by: Count de Monet at July 12, 2026 12:24 PM (wVcYX) 72
Somewhere, in an undisclosed location, Anthony Fauci is living in a bubble.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:24 PM (cI/Fd) 73
And still Chuck Schumer lives on …
Posted by: Gonzotx at July 12, 2026 12:23 PM (nGraA) Only the good die young. Posted by: Billy Joel at July 12, 2026 12:25 PM (wVcYX) 74
65 As for all the conspiracy theories going on, I think our government is to blame for everything having to be something untoward. However, the reality might be much more simple - he had high blood pressure. He wasn’t amazingly fit. A heart attack like a widow maker is not really a far stretch.
His father died from a heart attack. They do run in families. My dad's dad died at age 50 from one, my dad at age 70. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 12:21 PM (lJ0H4) It's easy to forget that 3 democrat congressmen have died in office this term. No conspiracy stories needed - when you have a government run by people in their 70's, 80's, and even 90's this kind of thing will happen fairly often. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2026 12:25 PM (edUvp) Posted by: Harper Lee at July 12, 2026 12:26 PM (XeU6L) 76
Opportunist, Nikki Haley is probably already making phone calls and badgering to be the replacement.
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2026 12:26 PM (dIske) 77
Opportunist, Nikki Haley is probably already making phone calls and badgering to be the replacement.
Severely Conservative !!! Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:26 PM (5V1rK) 78
76 Opportunist, Nikki Haley is probably already making phone calls and badgering to be the replacement.
Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2026 12:26 PM (dIske) That'll be fun. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 12, 2026 12:27 PM (eOFY+) 79
Its time to get real. I wasn't cheering for Miss Lindsey to croak. But I won't miss him either. On the balance ? Addition by subtraction. And another old codger that held onto power until he couldn't.
This is the correct attitude. You may not have liked everything he did, none of us did, but it's petty and low to revel in the man's death. It's okay to revel in the death of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, but he did some good things, and was generally a decent human being. That's enough right now. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:27 PM (Riz8t) 80
It's easy to forget that 3 democrat congressmen have died in office this term. No conspiracy stories needed - when you have a government run by people in their 70's, 80's, and even 90's this kind of thing will happen fairly often.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2026 12:25 PM (edUvp) Da, tovarich! Posted by: Soviet Politburo at July 12, 2026 12:27 PM (wVcYX) 81
cont'd:
Why? Well, there is profit in war, but only at a distance, which is why Brennan, his undead, and Dimon are the obstacles to the real peace. As long as intentions are directed overseas, the 1960's Klingon MADMANI can preside over 9/11 and the Kirk assasination aniversary with a parade and a smirk with a megaphone that proclaims -not REMAIN KLINGON, but rather the Truth: REMAIN SINWAR. Try and stop him if you think you can. https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-RemainKLINGON https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-RememberThisWell KLINGON Ambssador LIBBing out: Remeber this Well, there will be NO PEACE as long as (charlie) KIRK lives... (or even if he dies, until all of you are dead). Because the only Common Ground with the Desperate and Deliberately Evil is to put you in it. https://tinyurl.com/EvilsAdvantageOverConscience ...the more brazen and relentless one’s acts of brutality, the more likely it is that one will be allowed a second chance, and find even powerful men of conscience coming to one’s door offering to forget, to forgive... LET's GO BRANDON. The REAL POET Virgil wrote about how the WORST punishment in Hell was reserved for those whom in times of crisis did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 12, 2026 12:27 PM (R7JDj) 82
Calmly telling them to "Calm down." is often efficacious.
Posted by: HordeSource (tm) at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (0sNs1) Always preface that with a hormone comment. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:28 PM (/+uur) 83
If you’re over 70, overweight and don’t exercise… then add to that lots of international travel (which is hard on the body) and a very stressful job (politics) then a heart issue makes perfect sense. In recent pictures he looked like he’d definitely aged….
Me personally I will be retiring at 65 or even earlier if I can afford to. Life’s too short to spend toiling away in an office… unless you really love it Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:29 PM (ugElV) Posted by: Mitch McConnell at July 12, 2026 12:29 PM (cI/Fd) 85
Obviously he died of COVID!!!!!
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at July 12, 2026 12:29 PM (R+iUD) 86
>>Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (/+uur)
Didn't disagree at all. Dems were hoping also to unseat some incumbents, e.g. Collins. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:30 PM (NcvvS) 87
Names already being floated in early conversations for a potential appointment include Mark Lynch (who ran against Graham), Nancy Mace, John Warren (who ran for governor in 2024), Andre Bauer (former Lt. Gov.), and current Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette. Caton noted these are just the names circulating and that Governor Henry McMaster will ultimately make the appointment, with significant input expected from President Trump.
Posted by: Martini Farmer Trump will give input, McMaster will ignore. The guy is a snake. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2026 12:30 PM (BAWkL) 88
the sushi has an alibi
Posted by: putin at July 12, 2026 12:31 PM (SaAcJ) 89
There’s something to be said for good genetics, Heart disease sucks and it isn’t something you want to hear about.
One thing I noticed about Boomers as a class is they tend to flit around anything that promises to extend lifespan. Like a negotiation with reality. “I’ll stop eating beef and pork, quit smoking, drink Brussels Sprout smoothies daily, quit drinking alcohol, run 5 miles daily, stay out of the sun, wear wool next to the skin”, and on and on and on. The problem is, they want to share their wisdom with everyone else and feel compelled to force it on everyone. Neil Armstrong when asked by LIFE magazine about his exercise routine training as an astronaut said “I believe we only have a finite number of heartbeats, I’m not going to waste mine running around the block”. NASA itself about had a heart attack over these comments, and ole Neil soon “clarified” his comments, now waxing enthusiasm for daily vigorous exercise, naturally Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (OWbRf) 90
Life’s too short to spend toiling away in an office… unless you really love it
I wonder how many people really love their work, vs. they just lack the imagination to do anything different than what they've always done. Politics is a bit different, in that you get the frisson of power, and the thrill of people bowing and scraping. Still, even a Pelosi or McConnell has got to know that there is more to life than that, and they largely missed out. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (Riz8t) 91
76 Opportunist, Nikki Haley is probably already making phone calls and badgering to be the replacement.
Why settle for the Lesser Deep State Evil? Susan Rice. Leading the charge like the French Revolution half-naked Liberty to purge the world of the Normal People who dare challange gov't's role to decide: Who must be Sacrificed, so that They may live. Why shouldn't the Will of the People be preeminent and in evidence everywhere, yet existant in no one. hm...what could possibly go wrong? Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (nfx+D) 92
You ever notice that whenever it seems we're about to make headway with our plans, someone always gets taken away and our plans come to nothing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (1Ff7Z) 93
I love rumors.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (l26NL) -------- Me too! Posted by: Standartenfuehrer Hans Landa at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (amcLV) 94
Is McMaster the guv of SC related in any way to the army McMaster that was Trump’s national security advisor in first term? Probably not….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (26GAh) 95
As I said earlier this morning, there will be no real senate voting done before the new senate is seated next January. The save act is dead with zero hope of coming back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 12, 2026 12:33 PM (0N4FZ) 96
> Opportunist, Nikki Haley is probably already making phone calls and badgering to be the replacement.
Didn't Nooky Haley land at some think tanks and get some public-affairs sinecures? Posted by: Community Notes at July 12, 2026 12:34 PM (xE0sV) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 12, 2026 12:34 PM (ndZc7) 98
Did Graham manage to squeeze in his 20 minute conversation with Mitch?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 12, 2026 12:34 PM (3A+/F) 99
Me personally I will be retiring at 65 or even earlier if I can afford to. Life’s too short to spend toiling away in an office… unless you really love it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:29 PM (ugElV) Right there. That's the statement. Sir - you have written a sentence that matters. Ought to be on the front page of the blog. I'm not mocking you in the slightest. You've hit it. Why do these fucks - all of them - hang onto these jobs long after they've scammed the system for millions and screwed all the interns until they're private parts are sore ? They're not normal people. None of them. Those ego's alone are dangerous. Because any normal person would surf in, do a few things and scam a few million, then get the fuck out and ride off into the sunset. These dudes and dude-ettes that hang on ? That is not normal. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:35 PM (5V1rK) 100
The Mace connection re Annie Andrews
Previously, she was the Democratic Party's nominee for South Carolina's 1st congressional district in the 2022 United States House of Representatives elections, which she lost to incumbent Republican representative Nancy Mace after Mace attacked her work with children.[3] She is a professor of pediatrics at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, South Carolina. (Wikipedia) --- MS NOW, JEen Psaki talks with Democratic candidate for Senate in South Carolina, a week ago 'New candidate has the best shot yet at biting 'swamp creature" Lindsay Graham' Posted by: L - No nic... at July 12, 2026 12:35 PM (NFX2v) 101
We didn't do it.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell's staff at July 12, 2026 12:35 PM (R+iUD) 102
Neil Armstrong when asked by LIFE magazine about his exercise routine training as an astronaut said “I believe we only have a finite number of heartbeats, I’m not going to waste mine running around the block”.
Oh, that's very good. Another is when notoriously bald Jake Garn was going into space (because he was head of the Senate appropriations subcommittee that dealt with NASA), was asked about his bald head for some reason. His reply: "Each man gets a finite amount of testosterone. If you want to waste yours growing hair, that's up to you." Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (Riz8t) 103
Not that I cared much for him, but he wasn't an asshole for the sake of being an asshole, like McCain. He had consistent positions, wrong many of them may have been, but I never thought he was a backstabber. May God have mercy on his soul. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (O0L8i) Posted by: L - No nic... at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (NFX2v) 105
Still, even a Pelosi or McConnell has got to know that there is more to life than that, and they largely missed out.
Posted by: Archimedes There is also the fear of dying if you stop doing something like work, and it’s actually a real phenomenon. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (Dd38x) 106
The REAL POET Virgil wrote about how the WORST punishment in Hell was reserved for those whom in times of crisis did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Posted by: MANFRED -------- A favorite of JFK's; 'The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of moral crisis preserve their neutrality.' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L) 107
I wonder how many people really love their work, vs. they just lack the imagination to do anything different than what they've always done. Politics is a bit different, in that you get the frisson of power, and the thrill of people bowing and scraping. Still, even a Pelosi or McConnell has got to know that there is more to life than that, and they largely missed out.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:32 PM (Riz8t) I don’t know if I ever really loved my work. I definitely enjoyed it (even a lot) in stretches and was very good at it (still am)…. But when you do one thing (even in a STEM field like mine) for a long time, the boredom factor becomes real. I find it hard to get real excited about the next launch when I’ve already witnessed hundreds. And changing course to a completely different career in midlife… certainly after 50 would be IMO very difficult. Almost certainly a big step down in income to start at the bottom. So for me, I’ll toil away until retirement kinda enjoying but not loving my work and somewhat bored. I suspect many people are similar Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:37 PM (26GAh) 108
46 Graham also featured on an Iranian Kill List. I'm guessing that something that he ate disagreed with him.
it wasn't the sushi Posted by: putin at July 12, 2026 12:39 PM (SaAcJ) 109
They're not normal people. None of them. Those ego's alone are dangerous. Because any normal person would surf in, do a few things and scam a few million, then get the fuck out and ride off into the sunset.
These dudes and dude-ettes that hang on ? That is not normal. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:35 PM +++++ Pfffft... Posted by: The ghost of Strom Thurmond at July 12, 2026 12:39 PM (2Ez/1) 110
I wonder how many people really love their work, vs. they just lack the imagination to do anything different than what they've always done. Politics is a bit different, in that you get the frisson of power, and the thrill of people bowing and scraping. Still, even a Pelosi or McConnell has got to know that there is more to life than that, and they largely missed out.
And here we go. We're talking around the Boomer Mentality. A generation that just wants to be in charge. That really is all it is. A certain segment of Boomers demand to be in charge. The Ultimate Karens. Hell - they're setting themselves on fire to make sure things are arranged the way they wish after they're dead. Just getting everything the way they want it until they're last gasp isn't enough. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:39 PM (5V1rK) 111
I mostly like doing what I do
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2026 12:40 PM (Ia/+0) 112
I don’t know if I ever really loved my work. I definitely enjoyed it (even a lot) in stretches and was very good at it (still am)…. But when you do one thing (even in a STEM field like mine) for a long time, the boredom factor becomes real.
I hear you, brother. I was a research chemist, but after almost a half century in the lab (including college and grad school) I figured that was enough, and retired. I'm as happy as I've ever been, and still follow science, but it isn't the center of my life (with the exception of my family) the way it once was. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t) 113
>>> Calmly telling them to "Calm down." is often efficacious.
Posted by: HordeSource (tm) at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (0sNs1) Always preface that with a hormone comment. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:28 PM (/+uur) If all else fails a good technique is to provide them with a comparison to other females in their peer group, "You know, I bet Sally wouldn't have completely lost her shit like this". This context provides a helpful base to reorient her view of the situation while opening her perception to calming paths to peace. Posted by: banana Dream - relationship advice you can use at July 12, 2026 12:40 PM (3uBP9) 114
>>> 107
== I don’t know if I ever really loved my work. I definitely enjoyed it (even a lot) in stretches and was very good at it (still am)…. But when you do one thing (even in a STEM field like mine) for a long time, the boredom factor becomes real. I find it hard to get real excited about the next launch when I’ve already witnessed hundreds. And changing course to a completely different career in midlife… certainly after 50 would be IMO very difficult. Almost certainly a big step down in income to start at the bottom. So for me, I’ll toil away until retirement kinda enjoying but not loving my work and somewhat bored. I suspect many people are similar Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:37 PM (26GAh) It doesn't help that most CEOs are DEIfficient and they persist in hiring $10/hr "Sam" and "Peggy" from who knows where. Posted by: Mitch McConnell's staff at July 12, 2026 12:41 PM (R+iUD) 115
Off turtle-adjacent sock!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2026 12:41 PM (R+iUD) 116
One of the reasons Graham was reelected is his office's strong advocacy for South Carolinians. He inherited that formidable machinery from the late Strom Thurmond. I had a Finance instructor at USC Columbia who used to be an IRS agent. She regaled us with stories involving that Thurmond advocacy. She said when his office made an inquiry on behalf of a constituent they dropped everything and got the Senator an answer/ resolution tout suite.
Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 12:13 PM (lJ0H4) I wonder who will be inheriting that apparatus now. And hopefully it will be someone that isn't as gung-ho on war anytime anywhere and only being pro-border enforcement on election years. Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 12:41 PM (3tZV2) 117
54 And another old codger that held onto power until he couldn't.
Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:18 PM (5V1rK) 71 years old. Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 12:41 PM (6wpGE) 118
That really is all it is. A certain segment of Boomers demand to be in charge. The Ultimate Karens. Hell - they're setting themselves on fire to make sure things are arranged the way they wish after they're dead. Just getting everything the way they want it until they're last gasp isn't enough.
Pelosi was born in 1940, and McConnell in 1942. Neither is a boomer. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:41 PM (Riz8t) 119
A Israeli, a Russian and a Ukrainian walk into a bar, and the bartender says..
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:42 PM (cI/Fd) 120
26 12:36 PM (Dd38x)
106 The REAL POET Virgil wrote about how the WORST punishment in Hell was reserved for those whom in times of crisis did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Posted by: MANFRED -------- A favorite of JFK's; 'The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of moral crisis preserve their neutrality.' Posted by: Mike Hammer 2026: Best episode of the Apprentice, ever! MORE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9hX43pTpE METAL TRUMP: Sad but TRUE! Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 12, 2026 12:42 PM (i30VY) 121
68 And still Chuck Schumer lives on …
Posted by: Gonzotx at July 12, 2026 12:23 PM (nGraA) That fucking idiot is just a puppet for some aide in a mask standing behind him. I was watching some hearing and he repeated word for word what was being said into his ear. He has not one actual thought in his head. Literally a puppet. Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2026 12:43 PM (TSpzX) 122
And here we go. We're talking around the Boomer Mentality. A generation that just wants to be in charge. That really is all it is. A certain segment of Boomers demand to be in charge. The Ultimate Karens. ___________ Boomers are the sociological equivalent of Global Warming. Everything, but everything, wrong gets pinned on them. Sorry to be alive and living in a house, but it's the Good Lord who says when my time is up. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:43 PM (O0L8i) 123
>>> Calmly telling them to "Calm down." is often efficacious.
Posted by: HordeSource (tm) at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (0sNs1) Always preface that with a hormone comment. Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:28 PM (/+uur) If all else fails a good technique is to provide them with a comparison to other females in their peer group, "You know, I bet Sally wouldn't have completely lost her shit like this". This context provides a helpful base to reorient her view of the situation while opening her perception to calming paths to peace. Posted by: banana Dream - relationship advice you can use at July 12, 2026 12:40 PM (3uBP9) Comparisons to her mom or sister are especially reorienting and calming. Posted by: Count de Monet at July 12, 2026 12:43 PM (wVcYX) 124
A Israeli, a Russian and a Ukrainian walk into a bar, and the bartender says..
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:42 PM (cI/Fd) "who is paying?" Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 12:43 PM (rbvCR) 125
Wait till SC votes for the trash Nancy Mace the carpetbagger from NC. Should be run off.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2026 12:43 PM (hWhmF) 126
119 A Israeli, a Russian and a Ukrainian walk into a bar, and the bartender says..
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:42 PM (cI/Fd) Raquel Welch, those aren’t buoys! Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:44 PM (ugElV) 127
I don’t know if I ever really loved my work.
I never have. And I've meticulously structured my life-style to Upper-Middle Class so that I don't have to do it a day longer than necessary. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:44 PM (5V1rK) 128
Boomers are the sociological equivalent of Global Warming. Everything, but everything, wrong gets pinned on them.
Sorry to be alive and living in a house, but it's the Good Lord who says when my time is up. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh Yay Hadrian. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 12:45 PM (lJ0H4) 129
Dick "toe sucker" Morris?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 12:45 PM (Cqx++) 130
Calmly telling them to "Calm down." is often efficacious.
Posted by: HordeSource (tm) at July 12, 2026 12:20 PM (0sNs1) Do not tell them to "calm down" since this only causes extra problems. Merely explain that "you are acting like your mother, and I know I didn't marry your mother because if I had we would have a clean house and home cooked meals" Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (rbvCR) 131
Whatever you think of Graham, he served his country for many decades.
We should honor him by invading a country somewhere. Posted by: Kasper_Hauser_in_mourning at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (1f+mC) 132
Surprisingly NASA didn’t have a dedicated exercise program for the astronauts per se. They were expected to be adults and stay in shape. The participation varied.
John Glenn made a big show of jogging all the time, annoying his compadres. Scott Carpenter was quite lean and in excellent physical condition. A lot of the early guys smoked like chimneys. Some have speculated that Wally Schirra’s famous “Grumpy Commander” schtick on Apollo 7 was due in part to nicotine withdrawal. Obviously they weren’t allowed to smoke on the missions, but it is surprising the medicos didn’t take nicotine into account and maybe provide pills, or a patch. Or a frickin’ can of Copenhagen. Kinda strange. Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (OWbRf) 133
Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play geopolitics again.
Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at July 12, 2026 12:47 PM (wVcYX) 134
I'm only 54.
There's not a damned reason in the world "we" should be "ruled" by Old Dudes in Their Fifties. Now you think about that. Nancy Mace (damaged goods). I'm afraid many observers would want a much closer look at her goods to judge just how damaged they are. That attitude is wrong, but they come by it honestly. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 12, 2026 12:47 PM (zdLoL) 135
13 3 Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
oh please God no Posted by: Black Orchid ===== People in front of her, Ralph Norman, Yvette whatshername who is Lt. Gov, etc. Mace is unlikely to win a primary and probably whoever is selected as the appointee if they want to run, will become the next senator. Usually such matters either have a placeholder or more often, someone who gets the pick who then runs for the office. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 12:47 PM (E4rtv) 136
Couldn't out last McConnell, that's a tough L to take.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 12, 2026 12:49 PM (5yDGQ) 137
92 You ever notice that whenever it seems we're about to make headway with our plans, someone always gets taken away and our plans come to nothing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July I don’t know if it’s nothing, but I do find that I need to remind myself God’s timing isn’t always our timing. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:49 PM (Dd38x) 138
125 Wait till SC votes for the trash Nancy Mace the carpetbagger from NC. Should be run off.
Posted by: Bob ======= You missed how badly she did running for governor finishing well back of the pack. She is simply not that good of a politician. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 12:49 PM (E4rtv) 139
Rep. Nancy Mace, R-.S.C., is “strongly considering” a run for the seat, according to a person familiar with her thinking.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 12, 2026 12:02 PM (/+uur) ========================== "thinking" is perhaps not the right word when it comes to Nancy Mace Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 12, 2026 12:49 PM (3dxnp) 140
There's not a damned reason in the world "we" should be "ruled" by Old Dudes in Their Fifties. Now you think about that.
Easy. I wouldn't "Rule" a damn one of you even if you paid me. I'm in the "getting rid of responsibility" business. Not the "get more responsibility" business. Don't even call me to help set up the lighting for the Town Holiday Display. That will be a firm "no". Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:50 PM (5V1rK) 141
132 Surprisingly NASA didn’t have a dedicated exercise program for the astronauts per se. They were expected to be adults and stay in shape. The participation varied.
John Glenn made a big show of jogging all the time, annoying his compadres. Scott Carpenter was quite lean and in excellent physical condition. A lot of the early guys smoked like chimneys. Some have speculated that Wally Schirra’s famous “Grumpy Commander” schtick on Apollo 7 was due in part to nicotine withdrawal. Obviously they weren’t allowed to smoke on the missions, but it is surprising the medicos didn’t take nicotine into account and maybe provide pills, or a patch. Or a frickin’ can of Copenhagen. Kinda strange. Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (OWbRf) I imagine that since most of these guys were test pilots they were already in pretty good shape and had an exercise routine from military service? So NASA probably didn't need to go "You know you're looking a little chunky to fit in your suit and for our weight calculations." Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 12:50 PM (3tZV2) 142
105 There is also the fear of dying if you stop doing something like work, and it’s actually a real phenomenon.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (Dd38x) I've seen it. Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 12:50 PM (6wpGE) 143
Didn’t Nancy Mace come 5th in a recent GOP primary for SC guv? She’s not even popular amongst Republicans… no one’s gonna appoint her and she won’t win any election
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:50 PM (2mApq) 144
92 You ever notice that whenever it seems we're about to make headway with our plans, someone always gets taken away and our plans come to nothing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July ====== People die, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv) 145
I'm not sure that jogging, working out, etc. do much for an astronaut. Except, perhaps, for an EVA, how much exertion is there in space? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (O0L8i) 146
143 Didn’t Nancy Mace come 5th in a recent GOP primary for SC guv? She’s not even popular amongst Republicans… no one’s gonna appoint her and she won’t win any election
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at This is because she is delulu. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (Dd38x) 147
I don’t know if it’s nothing, but I do find that I need to remind myself God’s timing isn’t always our timing.
Right? Who does he think he is? Does he know who I am? Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (Riz8t) 148
Death grabs Lindsay Graham
mindful graphic webwork https://bit.ly/death-grabs-lindsay Don't usually just use a common template, but I was in a hurry. And getting lazy in my old age. Probably still not the first with this one. Posted by: mindful webworker - put another quarter in at July 12, 2026 12:52 PM (ci8WY) 149
>>I mostly like doing what I do
I did, too. IT, my main activity for 40+ years, 30+ as a consultant. Final project featured the customer PM from Hell. Put up with it for a year, gave a month's notice. A week or so later, on an internal call, the PM on our side asked if he could give the news to the group. Said, 'Sure.' Three of the five guys on the call yelled, 'Take me with you!' Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:52 PM (NcvvS) 150
It's hard to say what "good" and "like" is with respect to work. I guess that means I've never really liked it. But I have in the past felt accomplishment and I did like that.
I would say the best feeling is I go to work, it's all a blur, I'm crazy busy, and before I know it I need to leave it's late and I've gotten a ton done. The worst is everything is vague and undefined, I spend all freaking day putting out other people's stupid fires, it's late and I'm farther behind than when I started. My job is transitioning from ever enjoying any of the former to getting a lot of the latter, hard hot and fast. Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 12:52 PM (3uBP9) 151
I wonder who will be inheriting that apparatus now. And hopefully it will be someone that isn't as gung-ho on war anytime anywhere and only being pro-border enforcement on election years.
Posted by: buzzion It depends on whether or not they are being paid in dollars or yuan. Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 12, 2026 12:52 PM (diia5) 152
People die, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on.
The graveyards are full of indispensable men. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:53 PM (Riz8t) 153
143 Didn’t Nancy Mace come 5th in a recent GOP primary for SC guv? She’s not even popular amongst Republicans… no one’s gonna appoint her and she won’t win any election
Posted by: LinusVanPelt She did some things in that race that thoroughly pissed off Gov. McMasters. Pamela Evette may be the frontrunner for the appointment as her and McMasters are close. Probably several others if they want it and she doesn't. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv) 154
Whatever you think of Graham, he served his country for many decades.
We should honor him by invading a country somewhere. Posted by: Kasper_Hauser_in_mourning at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (1f+mC) My vote's for Belgium. Snotty attitude in the World Cup and what about that International Court crap? Burn the place down to the ground. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (/HDaX) 155
>>> This is because she is delulu.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (Dd38x) Delulu would be a great cocker spaniel name. Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (3uBP9) 156
Easy. I wouldn't "Rule" a damn one of you even if you paid me. I'm in the "getting rid of responsibility" business. Not the "get more responsibility" business.
Don't even call me to help set up the lighting for the Town Holiday Display. That will be a firm "no". Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 Exercise has many physical benefits, but there are also tremendous mental benefits. Just throwing that out there for no particular reason or purpose. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (Dd38x) 157
Don't usually just use a common template, but I was in a hurry. And getting lazy in my old age.
Probably still not the first with this one. Posted by: mindful webworker - put another quarter in at July 12, 2026 12:52 PM (ci8WY) The version I saw was, "Is Soros even in this thing at all?" Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (rbvCR) 158
Ive had my differences with Miss Lindsay, but as a resident of SC with many veteran friends, I can say that his constituency services were flawless.
A vet needed a ramp and some concrete or a handicapped bothroom and the VA seemed to be slow? His team knew how to put some stick about and get things done pronto. Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (wBaIH) 159
Right? Who does he think he is? Does he know who I am? Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (Riz8t) ____________ Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. - Jeremiah 1:5 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (O0L8i) 160
We should honor him by invading a country somewhere.
Posted by: Kasper_Hauser_in_mourning at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (1f+mC) My vote's for Belgium. Snotty attitude in the World Cup and what about that International Court crap? And French adjacent. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (Riz8t) 161
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I'm not sure that jogging, working out, etc. do much for an astronaut. Except, perhaps, for an EVA, how much exertion is there in space? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (O0L8i) It's being in enough shape/strength for the return vs the departure. Return to gravity after time away is incredibly hard on the body. Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (tOcjL) 162
his enthusiasm for spilling American blood
And Jan 6th proved he didn't need a war to justify asking for American blood. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (NnhvP) 163
There is also the fear of dying if you stop doing something like work, and it’s actually a real phenomenon.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (Dd38x) Or I can just concentrate on shooting more pool and playing the greatest version of Tulsa Time known to man. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (5V1rK) 164
155 >>> This is because she is delulu.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:51 PM (Dd38x) Delulu would be a great cocker spaniel name. Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM I had a horse we called Luna. It was short for Lunatic. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (Dd38x) 165
Lindsey was hated by all the Jew haters because he backed Israel.
I’ll give him some props for that. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (Xe8e7) 166
Exactly, they didn’t need to be told.
And being the Most Amazing Physical Specimen increased chances of being selected for the first flights or a prime crew. They were all buddies, but also competitors. Jim Irwin basically had a heart attack on the Moon. The astronaut doctor, Chuck Berry was worried, but he was getting O2 in the spacecraft and in a zero G environment, which is about the best they could do for anyone. So the next mission they amped up Potassium in the food and drink, ultimately leading to John Young dropping F bombs about how he’ll never drink the special orange juice ever again on a hot mic. LOL Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (OWbRf) 167
In the days of old, often and surprisingly, in saner times, leaders were challenged to duels and one of the combatants had his throat slit and the winner went on to govern. Mortal combat would weed out the geezers and parasites..
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (cI/Fd) 168
There's not a damned reason in the world "we" should be "ruled" by Old Dudes in Their Fifties. Now you think about that. Wild in the streets www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (Cqx++) 169
I don’t know if it’s nothing, but I do find that I need to remind myself God’s timing isn’t always our timing.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:49 PM (Dd38x) Bu... but... I thought he liked us and wanted us to be happy? Can't be too happy being ruled by foreigners and perverts. Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (1Ff7Z) 170
>>Do not tell them to "calm down" since this only causes extra problems. Merely explain that "you are acting like your mother, and I know I didn't marry your mother because if I had we would have a clean house and home cooked meals"
'She did not lose her temper so much as abandon it.' -- S & J Robinson. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (NcvvS) 171
My vote's for Belgium. Snotty attitude in the World Cup and what about that International Court crap?
Burn the place down to the ground. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (/HDaX) Luxembourg… they’re getting a little uppity Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (26GAh) 172
Welcome To The Land Of The Free!
https://youtu.be/Ft2mlNqHjYM Jason Stills World Cup fans enjoying America and each other. It got dusty in here. Posted by: Count de Monet, Sentimental Old Me at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (wVcYX) 173
Ive had my differences with Miss Lindsay, but as a resident of SC with many veteran friends, I can say that his constituency services were flawless. ___________ That's the way you keep getting elected. Answer your mail and bring in the smoosh and you're in like Flint. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (O0L8i) 174
So the next mission they amped up Potassium in the food and drink, ultimately leading to John Young dropping F bombs about how he’ll never drink the special orange juice ever again on a hot mic. LOL
Colonoscopy preps contain lots of potassium. Just sayin'. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (Riz8t) 175
Exercise has many physical benefits, but there are also tremendous mental benefits. Just throwing that out there for no particular reason or purpose.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (Dd38x) I stay busy enough just trying to outsmart the 40-something ladies with daddy issues. And amusing myself pouring driveways or building a deck the way that pleases me instead of the way that's cheap. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (5V1rK) 176
Also, I think some people are wired, or they get rewired, to be active. I am on vacation. It’s raining. I already ran this morning, everyone is doing nothing and looks like they are fine doing it. I am jumping out of my skin. Hahah.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (Dd38x) 177
Delulu would be a great cocker spaniel name.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (3uBP9) It is a name that rolls off the tongue, especially when the dog is being called for loudly by the woman of the house. Of course then everyone would think she is some sort of Shiite fundamentalist and is ululating for some reason. Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (rbvCR) 178
Chuck Berry was an astronaut doctor?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (Cqx++) 179
Sen. Lindsey Graham Dies at 71:The senator died from a 'brief and sudden illness,' his office said.
Check him for polonium poisoning. Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (p11yt) 180
There is also the fear of dying if you stop doing something like work, and it’s actually a real phenomenon.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:36 PM (Dd38x) I'm retired and so far, I've successfully fought that phenomenon. So far. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (/HDaX) 181
Luxembourg… they’re getting a little uppity Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (26GAh) ___________ Liechtenstein. Little double landlocked bastards. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (O0L8i) 182
- So glad I found out I'm not a boomer.
Sometime back I saw something on a new category. Essentially too young to have been at Woodstock. Too old to have grown up with computers. Baseball, the British Invasion and fishing were the drivers of my formative years. And then, at probably too young an age, girls. Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (dAv7M) 183
@25/Anonosaurus Wrecks: "Paramount’s New Star Trek Reboot May Move Forward Without Captain Kirk"
Pffff. Let me guess, the writers and directors never watched the original series either? Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (O7YUW) 184
Mike Collins mentioned that, he was no exercise enthusiast but believed it important to be in good shape to begin with. Zero G means the heart takes it easy, too easy. The return to 1 g earth gravity is kind of a rude shock to the body. Atrophy of muscles and such.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (OWbRf) 185
I'm retired and so far, I've successfully fought that phenomenon.
So far. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July Keep that up. Please and thank you. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (Dd38x) 186
You got France. You got Netherlands. Then there’s Belgium which is 1/2 and 1/2. Seems superfluous.
Imagine if Belgium teamed up with France for a soccer team? Mama Mia!! Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (Xe8e7) 187
Exercise has many physical benefits, but there are also tremendous mental benefits. Just throwing that out there for no particular reason or purpose.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (Dd38x) In my experience, the mental benefits even outweigh the physical, which are substantial. There’s no other activity that can drain away a day of work stress more effectively than a 4 or 5 mile jog… or longer. And it helps my sleep too… it’s like a magic pill without the pill Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (26GAh) 188
Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (dAv7M)
Probably the Generation Jones item. I read up on it and I think it has a lot of merit. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 01:00 PM (/HDaX) 189
@AmyMek
ENEMY WITHIN: Texas “Imam” Omar Suleiman Celebrates Lindsey Graham’s Death Just hours after Senator Lindsey Graham’s death was announced, self-proclaimed “Imam” Omar Suleiman posted: “In other news, Lindsey Graham is dead…Bye Lindsey. May you live an eternity in ruins for the ruins you helped create in Gaza. Ameen” Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 12, 2026 01:00 PM (diia5) 190
Delulu would be a great cocker spaniel name.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 12:54 PM (3uBP9) Heck of a movie studio name, too! Posted by: Loocy! at July 12, 2026 01:00 PM (1Ff7Z) 191
There is also the fear of dying if you stop doing something like work, and it’s actually a real phenomenon.
Posted by: Piper I'll be busier after I retire than I am working. I have so much to do that just doesn't get done because there's just not enough time in the day. Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2026 01:00 PM (p11yt) 192
Despite the (R) attached to Graham, I'd like to see where he was spending his grift. What NGO's did he favor? Which commie adjacent outfits was he funding.
Whether he was aware of what his grift was being spent on is debatable... but I'd still like a ledger. Verification is the sincerest form trust. Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2026 01:00 PM (jehhT) 193
Easy. I wouldn't "Rule" a damn one of you even if you paid me.
But we're not talking about you. You made this about a decadal age cohort. Now you have to answer for everybody in their 50's. You're not up to it. Get back in your trench and keep digging. You can't stay young by thinking like a teenager, and I'm going to apologize to a couple of actual teenagers for comparing your limp lame ass to them. You're not "boss" of anything, and we're thankful for that. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (zdLoL) 194
Keep that up. Please and thank you.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (Dd38x) Anytime, ma'am. I aim to please. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (/HDaX) 195
Do not tell them to "calm down" since this only causes extra problems. Merely explain that "you are acting like your mother, and I know I didn't marry your mother because if I had we would have a clean house and home cooked meals"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 12:46 PM (rbvCR) There is flying cast iron in these words. Posted by: *CLANG* OWW!!! at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (TbWk/) 196
Pelosi was born in 1940, and McConnell in 1942. Neither is a boomer.
Posted by: Archimedes ======= Don't let evidence get in the way of a good rant. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (E4rtv) 197
I think some people are wired, or they get rewired, to be active. I am on vacation. It’s raining. I already ran this morning, everyone is doing nothing and looks like they are fine doing it. I am jumping out of my skin. Hahah.
Posted by: Piper at July 12 That’s my wife on vacation. Always needs to do something, see something. I’m like I’ll be on the beach for 12 hours doing nothing. Thank you very much. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (Xe8e7) 198
144 92 You ever notice that whenever it seems we're about to make headway with our plans, someone always gets taken away and our plans come to nothing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July ====== People die, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on. Posted by: whig TRUTH/IRL: The Knife appears at your back when you are on top of the world for the simple reason that you made the classic smart person mistake -- thinking you are the smartest person, when you're not. Because those smarter, those embedded enough to work in the shadows allowed/enabled/let you do all the heavy lifting for them. Up, Down, Left, Right -- all are their playthings. getSMART, kaos agent's do not toot toot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4TC1xMyZDI IT TAKES A VILLAIN -- to tell us the truth Lex Luthor: We create our own purpose, now go find yours Joker: Their morality is a bad Joke. ctHILLARY: We're going to take things from you in the name of the Common Good. LET'S GO BRANDON: Finish the Process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9hX43pTpE Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 12, 2026 01:01 PM (Pffb2) 199
So the new theory is that is actually the Silents that are such a pain in the ass.
More than anything said here in quite some time ... makes sense. Silent Generation ... born 1928-1945. Shall we take a look at our Political Masters from this lens ? Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:02 PM (5V1rK) 200
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'She did not lose her temper so much as abandon it.' -- S & J Robinson. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (NcvvS) I dated her, too. Briefly. Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 01:02 PM (rbvCR) 201
>>> I had a horse we called Luna. It was short for Lunatic.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (Dd38x) The stables that keep our horse has all sorts of crazy names for their horses. Our's is Maria and I'm not sure how we ended up with a normal name horse . But there's a horse called FIFO and I'm like that's a computer term! But my kid told me it's named that because it's one of the first rules of barrel racing and queuing kids. First In First Out. OK. Most of the horses are named after vehicle parts, strangely. What ever, it's their stables and I pay for all the horse care and meds, food, Halloween horse costumes, horse summer camp, horse snacks, $$$, etc... Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (3uBP9) 202
Compromised Immune System the cause ???
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (3shEo) 203
I'm willing to grant Graham a plenary indulgence on the basis of that famous photo of him insouciantly straightening his tie while being howled at by a protestor (I believe it was during the Kavanaugh hearings).
Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (2L+MU) 204
Chuck Berry was an astronaut doctor?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (Cqx++) Successful astronauts could duck walk while playing a guitar like ringing a bell. Posted by: Count de Monet, Sentimental Old Me at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (wVcYX) 205
Deke Slayton was grounded because of an intermittent Atrial fibrillation. That sucked. I don’t know if he eventually died of a heart attack. I doubt it.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (OWbRf) 206
Bu... but... I thought he liked us and wanted us to be happy? Can't be too happy being ruled by foreigners and perverts. Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12 Oh he loves us. Never doubt. Happy by picking and choosing what we believe in the Bible to make our lives easier is probably not in the cards, however. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 01:03 PM (Dd38x) 207
>>Liechtenstein. Little double landlocked bastards.
Check Andorra, too. They've been quiet. Too quiet. Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2026 01:04 PM (NcvvS) 208
178 Chuck Berry was an astronaut doctor?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 12:57 PM (Cqx++) No, but he sure could rig a toilet. Posted by: Technical abilities at July 12, 2026 01:04 PM (TbWk/) 209
I don’t know if it’s nothing, but I do find that I need to remind myself God’s timing isn’t always our timing. Posted by: Piper ------ A mildly blasphemous old joke: You want to make God laugh? Tell him what your plans are. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L) 210
"How sweet it is to do nothing all day long, and after having done so, to rest."
Posted by: My favorite beach house sign at July 12, 2026 01:05 PM (2Ez/1) 211
I won't miss him.
Do better this time, South Carolina. Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2026 12:06 PM (TSpzX) Yeah !!! You tell em. Posted by: J. Cornyn TEXAS at July 12, 2026 01:05 PM (TTv1m) 212
That’s my wife on vacation. Always needs to do something, see something. I’m like I’ll be on the beach for 12 hours doing nothing. Thank you very much.
That's the way my wife and I are at home. She always has to be doing something volunteering somewhere, overextending... Me, I'm content to sit on my deck and look at the woods, or read a book when I'm feeling ambitious. My to do list has one or two items on it, and I rarely get to it. I spend enough time on the clock, checking items off the list. It works for us, since I do the cooking, and we usually don't see each other for much of the day. We each do what we want, although she sometimes tries to enlist me in her projects. THIS is retirement. I love it. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:05 PM (Riz8t) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (O0L8i) 214
Sometime back I saw something on a new category. Essentially too young to have been at Woodstock. Too old to have grown up with computers.
Baseball, the British Invasion and fishing were the drivers of my formative years. And then, at probably too young an age, girls. Posted by: TeeJ A marketing and news term was the baby boom and and something that even the ancients knew--generational replacement leads to societal disruptions especially when one cohort is too small or very large. And it is more like a bell curve distribution with those on either tail of the distribution more resembling those closer in age than any formal demarcation line. Those at teh end of the Baby Boom share more experiences with X and those early Baby Boomers are more like late Silents in experiences that affect attitudes. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (E4rtv) 215
Graham also featured on an Iranian Kill List. I'm guessing that something that he ate disagreed with him.
Posted by: Community Notes ------ And, in a surprise move, for seen by absolutely no one... The IRGC claims that they assassinated him! (Shoots arrow at barn. Runs up.and paints bullseye around arrow) Posted by: buddhaha at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (a8Wd8) 216
I’ve pointed out to many yuuutes that the boomers they’re blaming all their problems on are mostly retired. Their boss is almost certainly GenX maybe even millenial. Boomers are by and large out of the workforce and out of decision making positions. In politics Trump is a boomer obviously. But his cabinet is very non-boomer. And look who is setting the direction of the Dems, 20-something’s. Not boomers.
The retort is being a boomer is about having. Boomer mentality not your age. So a 32 year old is a boomer I guess if he believes in shit like being in time for meetings or not spending money you don’t have. 50 years from now when ever boomers is long buried they’ll still be blaming da b00mErS for everything. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (Xe8e7) 217
Bu... but... I thought he liked us and wanted us to be happy? Can't be too happy being ruled by foreigners and perverts.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (1Ff7Z) No and no. Posted by: He can't WAIT to drop us into hellfire at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (TbWk/) 218
You can't stay young by thinking like a teenager, and I'm going to apologize to a couple of actual teenagers for comparing your limp lame ass to them. You're not "boss" of anything, and we're thankful for that.
I'm thankful not to be responsible for any of you as well. Now go "apologize" to all the teens you want. Hands in your pockets. Don't be a creeper. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:07 PM (5V1rK) 219
With respect to the people of South Carolina, no big names in the state GOP would primary against Graham. 5 or 6 challengers would split the anti-Graham block into splinters.
I am happy that he is finally gone. RIP. Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 12, 2026 01:07 PM (qFwJc) 220
Jogging was the fitness craze. Then my heart spun a bearing or something.
Posted by: Zombie Jim Fixx at July 12, 2026 01:07 PM (wVcYX) 221
I've got to roll over and tell Tchaikovsky the news.
Posted by: Beethoven at July 12, 2026 01:08 PM (2Ez/1) 222
182 - So glad I found out I'm not a boomer.
Sometime back I saw something on a new category. Essentially too young to have been at Woodstock. Too old to have grown up with computers. Baseball, the British Invasion and fishing were the drivers of my formative years. And then, at probably too young an age, girls. Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 12:59 PM (dAv7M) Similar to what some call Xennials for Millennials born in the early 80's. Have some things in common with Gen X and kids born in the late 80's early 90's, but don't really completely fit in on either group. Remember record players and cassettes and CD's. Possibly even had a rotary phone in their house as well as a computer. I really like being born in that time period because I think it gave a lot of us an adaptability that is more difficult for those older and younger than us, because the tech transition was happening so fast and frequent as we grew up. Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:08 PM (3tZV2) 223
Dr. Annie Andrews is supported by the 314 Action Fund and EMILYs List.
Others groups backing her include: End Citizens United, Vote Mama PAC, and Committee to Protect Health Care Posted by: L - No nic... at July 12, 2026 01:09 PM (NFX2v) 224
Jogging was the fitness craze. Then my heart spun a bearing or something.
Posted by: Zombie Jim Fixx -------- Over-revved. Threw a rod. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:09 PM (XeU6L) 225
THIS is retirement. I love it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:05 PM (Riz8t) Thank you. This confirms my desire/plan to retire ASAP… Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 01:09 PM (ugElV) 226
I think it gave a lot of us an adaptability that is more difficult for those older and younger than us, because the tech transition was happening so fast and frequent as we grew up.
Posted by: buzzion Nice to hear from you. How are Piper and Mitch? Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:09 PM (Riz8t) 227
One would think that Scogg would be more respectful of Lindsey Graham, what with them having the same hobby, and all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2026 01:09 PM (1z8ji) 228
Know that whatever ire is being placed on boomers they will in an instant transfer that to genx. It has already started in many cases. As boomers die off, fade in to the background they are not as useful as an excuse. There must always be an excuse. Those of us that are genx get ready for it. And as a genx I will prepare for this inevitability as I have other things in my life, by not GAF because that is the genx super power.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 01:10 PM (3uBP9) 229
202 Compromised Immune System the cause ???
Posted by: Jackson K. Eh, apparently Lady Lindsay from one staffer's reports has had high blood pressure for years. And deep vein thrombosis is also possible from long flights--combine the two and yeah, you can get a heart attack at 71 which is close to the average life expectancy of a male anyway. Doesn't rule out foul play like for Scalia, but Scalia had a lot of pre-existing medical issues too. We won't really know what happened in either case as our system is designed to smother weird shit and that makes most official pronouncements grist for conspiracy. That is what a low trust society that our creeps in high offices have given us--we assume they lie even with no reason to do so because they can. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:10 PM (E4rtv) 230
One would think that Scogg would be more respectful of Lindsey Graham, what with them having the same hobby, and all.
You mean trolling? I can't think of anything else...oh, OHHHHH. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:11 PM (Riz8t) 231
$$$, etc...
Posted by: banana Dream Yep! My horse is in a horsie retirement home, he earned it. He jumped every jump, he suffered through the letter box (dressage), he taught all my kids how to ride by being both a saint and a pain in the tail. In the beginning if you just sort of got the cue right, he did it. As they got better, he stopped doing it until you asked correctly. And if you were bugging him, pulling him, yanking on his mouth over fences, you were going to have an unscheduled dismount. I go through phases of wanting another horse, and maybe one day. In the meantime, I have Ben Had who takes care of me. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 01:12 PM (Dd38x) 232
202 Compromised Immune System the cause ???
Posted by: Jackson K. Monkey Pox, in some cases, is fatal. Posted by: Dr. Quest, Not A Closeted Homosexual at July 12, 2026 01:12 PM (ftsic) 233
Thx CBD. Wasn't a Graham fan ( called him Miss Lindsey) but I can't ever , even when leftist aholes die , cheer. Everyone dies , cheering it seems like cheering for your own death
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2026 01:12 PM (m2wmY) 234
I blame global warming. Al Gore has blood on his hands.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 01:12 PM (rbvCR) 235
I could probably retire now but I want to wait until the last kid is out of the house to do it. A few more years.
I’m look forward to it. My vision of retirement is do all the fun stuff I do on weekends and vacations but do a lot more of it without a schedule to worry about. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:12 PM (Xe8e7) 236
Bu... but... I thought he liked us and wanted us to be happy? Can't be too happy being ruled by foreigners and perverts.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (1Ff7Z) No and no. Posted by: He can't WAIT to drop us into hellfire at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (TbWk/) Thank you for your insight, Jonathan Edwards! Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (1Ff7Z) 237
Shock from being stuck on a plane and the only movie was the live-action Moana.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (hL/zs) 238
- @188 A B A
That's the one. And thinking back, I should have probably just included the girls in the first group. Baseball and such at 9, girls at 10 so... Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (dAv7M) 239
228 Know that whatever ire is being placed on boomers they will in an instant transfer that to genx. It has already started in many cases. As boomers die off, fade in to the background they are not as useful as an excuse. There must always be an excuse. Those of us that are genx get ready for it. And as a genx I will prepare for this inevitability as I have other things in my life, by not GAF because that is the genx super power.
Posted by: banana Dream Meh, generational warfare is likely to be replaced by immigrants legal and illegal, college educated socialists versus those of us wanting freedom, and other such messes. I think some of the attacks on the Baby Boom generation come from envy--they lived during one of the best times in history for a youth to be experiences in the Western World and the rest of us only had part of those experiences, not the full package. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (E4rtv) 240
>>I really like being born in that time period because I think it gave a lot of us an adaptability that is more difficult for those older and younger than us, because the tech transition was happening so fast and frequent as we grew up.
Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:08 PM (3tZV2) I didn't think that sort of thing mattered to the dead? Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:14 PM (5MUB0) 241
The retort is being a boomer is about having. Boomer mentality not your age.
No. We can argue "age" - but lets look at what happened. If you were "white collar", before NAFTA, you did very well. If you were "blue collar" ? Not so much. Now, lets talk 401K and IRA and such. Where did that wealth go ? The first folks getting on that train ... like me in the late 90s with all that matching money ? That went straight into the accounts of those already there. To deny that Boomers profited, and still do, simply from being the right bunch at the right time to reap the rewards of Peak American Wealth is just a lie. Just is. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:14 PM (5V1rK) 242
Thx CBD. Wasn't a Graham fan ( called him Miss Lindsey) but I can't ever , even when leftist aholes die , cheer. Everyone dies , cheering it seems like cheering for your own death
I make an exception for "people" who deliberately cause the deaths of others. As I said earlier, Hitler, Stalin, Mao - yeah f*** those guys. Ted Bundy and Charles Manson? - they're toast, and good riddance. It's silly to suggest that Graham belonged in that category. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:14 PM (Riz8t) 243
227 One would think that Scogg would be more respectful of Lindsey Graham, what with them having the same hobby, and all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ===== Ladybugs? Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:15 PM (E4rtv) 244
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2026
Lindsay Graham went on Internet forums and repeatedly changed his handle? I may not have agreed with everything Mr. Graham said or did , but since he cared for his sister and/or other siblings when he was a young man, I have to admire him for that. Being 21 and losing your dear father ( or mother) is too young. May God be merciful to Lindsay and comfort those who loved and miss him Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:15 PM (9AdGW) 245
RIP Senator Graham. He did a very good job helping GOP nominees get confirmed in the Senate, including Kav
Posted by: Jonah at July 12, 2026 01:15 PM (gwrBY) 246
I’m look forward to it. My vision of retirement is do all the fun stuff I do on weekends and vacations but do a lot more of it without a schedule to worry about.
Posted by: Facts That's the spirit! Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:15 PM (Riz8t) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (9AdGW) 248
I retired back in April. What day of the week is this?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (2Ez/1) 249
Know that whatever ire is being placed on boomers they will in an instant transfer that to genx. It has already started in many cases. As boomers die off, fade in to the background they are not as useful as an excuse. There must always be an excuse. Those of us that are genx get ready for it. And as a genx I will prepare for this inevitability as I have other things in my life, by not GAF because that is the genx super power.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 01:10 PM (3uBP9) The Zs and Alphas have already started casually throwing Gen X in with Boomers. No reasons given, just guilt by association. Which I find amusing since we are the generation known most for simply not giving a fuck and staying out of other people's shit. Posted by: Got to have a fall guy when the culprits are gone at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (TbWk/) 250
The generational war is so weird to me. When I was 25 I gave absolutely zero fucks what people who were 45 or 65 were doing. It never occurred to me to blame my boss’s generation because he was a dick to me.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (Xe8e7) 251
Know that whatever ire is being placed on boomers they will in an instant transfer that to genx. It has already started in many cases.
And ... nope. What's happening now is the next generational boom. Millennials. Enjoy. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (5V1rK) 252
245 RIP Senator Graham. He did a very good job helping GOP nominees get confirmed in the Senate, including Kav
LG: "Boy, y'all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (Riz8t) 253
>>If you were "white collar", before NAFTA, you did very well. If you were "blue collar" ? Not so much.
Bullshit. You are only proving your avarice, and your covetous nature...nothing else. Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:17 PM (5MUB0) 254
"Sen. Lindsey Graham Dies at 71:The senator died from a 'brief and sudden illness,' his office said.
Check him for polonium poisoning." Posted by: rickb223 "Natural Causes" is probably most likely, but certainly not the only possibility. Looking happy and healthy is Ukraine then "sudden illness" is odd. Seems a little late for the "sudden death" thing from Covid mRNA treatments. Some covert assassination is somewhere in the mix of possibilities I suppose, though polonium would be a little too obvious (or a good cover for some not Russia actor), and Graham seemed like a friend of DeepState, mostly. More details should be forthcoming. Posted by: illiniwek at July 12, 2026 01:17 PM (vbXSk) 255
Don't worry about it until your annual Medicare evaluation.
Posted by: L - No nic... at July 12, 2026 01:17 PM (NFX2v) 256
Zs and Alphas have already started casually throwing Gen X in with Boomers. No reasons given, just guilt by association. Which I find amusing since we are the generation known most for simply not giving a fuck and staying out of other people's shit.
Posted by: Got to have a fall guy when the culprits are gone at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (TbWk/) See my comment above. Boomer is now a state of mind not an age. You can be a 30 year old and be a “boomer” because you think like one. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:18 PM (Xe8e7) 257
>>> Meh, generational warfare is likely to be replaced by immigrants legal and illegal, college educated socialists versus those of us wanting freedom, and other such messes. I think some of the attacks on the Baby Boom generation come from envy--they lived during one of the best times in history for a youth to be experiences in the Western World and the rest of us only had part of those experiences, not the full package.
Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (E4rtv) Definitely a lot is envy based, and yeah there is stiff competition in the marketplace of envy. Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 01:18 PM (3uBP9) 258
I retired back in April. What day of the week is this?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2026 01:16 PM (2Ez/1) I go by book threads, so it's Sunday. Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:18 PM (1Ff7Z) 259
233 but I can't ever , even when leftist aholes die , cheer. Everyone dies , cheering it seems like cheering for your own death - Smell the Glove
I hadn't ever thought of it that way, but it rings very true. Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2026 01:18 PM (2L+MU) 260
166 Jim Irwin basically had a heart attack on the Moon. The astronaut doctor, Chuck Berry was worried, but he was getting O2 in the spacecraft and in a zero G environment, which is about the best they could do for anyone.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 12:55 PM (OWbRf) I did not know that about Jim Irwin on Apollo 15, that he had brief irregular heart rhythms on the surface of the moon. Apparently it was a pre-existing condition. He was the first moonwalker to pass away twenty years later at age 61 from a heart attack. Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (y171U) 261
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (1Ff7Z
I don't even think Jonathan Edwards thought that . It's a shame that is the only of his writings taught in high school because he was a voluminous writer and wrote frequently about the love of God. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (9AdGW) 262
You are only proving your avarice, and your covetous nature...nothing else.
Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:17 PM (5MUB0) Sure. The whole "rust belt" thing is just imagined. Garrett ... its a wonder why you ain't 50 points up already. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (5V1rK) 263
@242 agreed. The demise of evil should be cheered. Graham may have been misguided but not evil
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (m2wmY) 264
As if you could have chosen your birth year.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (2Ez/1) 265
No and no.
Posted by: He can't WAIT to drop us into hellfire at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (TbWk/) _____________ "So that thus it is that natural men are held in the hand of God over the pit of hell; they have deserved the fiery pit, and are already sentenced to it; and God is dreadfully provoked: his anger is as great towards them as to those that are actually suffering the execution of the fierceness of his wrath in hell; said they have done nothing in the least to appease or abate that anger, neither is God in the least bound by any promise to hold them up one moment. The devil is wailing for thorn, hell is gaping for them, the flames gather and flash about them, and would fain lay hold on them, and swallow them up; the fire pent up in their own hearts is struggling to break out; and they have no interest in any Mediator; there are no means within reach that can be any security to them. In short they have no refuge, nothing to take hold of; all that preserves them every moment is the mere arbitrary will, and uncovenanted, unobliged forbearance of an incensed God." Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 01:20 PM (O0L8i) 266
Lindsey was always a reliable vote. Tax cuts, senate confirmations, he was there.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:21 PM (Xe8e7) 267
285 I do not want McMaster in Graham's seat. South Carolina Republicans are all Centrist Democrats, but some are worse than others.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 12, 2026 10:23 AM Posted by: toby928(c) repeats himself at July 12, 2026 01:21 PM (4NO2D) 268
Deke Slayton was grounded because of an intermittent Atrial fibrillation. That sucked. I don’t know if he eventually died of a heart attack. I doubt it.
Posted by: Common Tater ------ Atrial fibrillation is not usually related to the broad category of "heart attacks". The usual fatal event from AFIB is a stroke. The heart gets out of sync in terms of what part is squeezing when, so some fraction of the blood winds up just swishing around in the heart, instead of out into the arteries, and clots form. One hits the brain and... I've learned quite a bit about this over the last couple of years. The wife's on metoprolol and Eliquis. Posted by: buddhaha at July 12, 2026 01:21 PM (a8Wd8) 269
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I agree. (opportunity for a rare photograph) Trump says he has someone in mind, so that's an X factor. There's a lot to be said for appointing a caretaker (someone who is respected, probably old, & won't run for the full term). Then, let it be a jump ball in the GOP primary. That way, nobody thinks they got scr**ed & goes away mad. Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (RCjYY) 270
Lindsey was always a reliable vote. Tax cuts, senate confirmations, he was there.
A good troop mobilization ? Miss Lindsey was always ready to fund the team to get to the big game. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (5V1rK) 271
Thank you for your insight, Jonathan Edwards!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:13 PM (1Ff7Z) Hanging by a thin thread over the flaming pits, man. Sinners in the hands of an angry God and he's getting shaky. Posted by: Did you see the hang time on THAT hellbound soul? at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (TbWk/) 272
237 Shock from being stuck on a plane and the only movie was the live-action Moana.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July Oh no…. Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (Dd38x) 273
>>The whole "rust belt" thing is just imagined.
When you foist your suffering on others, you are nothing more than a bitter, jealous child. If you can't navigate the changes in your life, it is always someone else's fault. Got it. Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (5MUB0) 274
264 As if you could have chosen your birth year.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty ===== Envy is beyond all of that and the politics of resentment is the grist for every monstrous political movement. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (E4rtv) 275
I don't even think Jonathan Edwards thought that . It's a shame that is the only of his writings taught in high school because he was a voluminous writer and wrote frequently about the love of God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:19 PM (9AdGW) Don't know, because you're right: schools only taught that sermon of his, none of his other writings. Convenient target is all. No offense intended to his denom and their beliefs. Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (1Ff7Z) 276
- whig
If the boomers were 45-65, I fell right in the middle. Tack on older sis, younger sis and no dad,,, I could have turned out sooo much worse. Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 01:23 PM (dAv7M) 277
Envy is the stupidest vice. Unlike Lust, Greed, Gluttony and Sloth, there's no antecedent pleasure. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2026 01:23 PM (O0L8i) 278
Slayton later was cleared and went to space on the US - Soyuz test project
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2026 01:23 PM (m2wmY) 279
My X feed has two things in it today. The Graham death and a dude getting demolished by a bison.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (u73oe) 280
If you can't navigate the changes in your life, it is always someone else's fault.
Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (5MUB0) Big talk, from a guy with a Vespa and a Messenger Bag and a set of Designer Crocs that all match. Are you texting me hands free, right now, riding 30 MPH down a sidewalk ? Look ... from where you - I dunno', ride ? Life has never been better. I get it. You'll get it later. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (5V1rK) 281
"no offense intended to his denom"
I first read that as "demon." Luca Signorelli gives good demon. Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (RCjYY) 282
My X feed has two things in it today. The Graham death and a dude getting demolished by a bison.
Can I have a do-over and get demolished by the bison? Posted by: Zombie Lindsey Graham at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (Riz8t) 283
Does the Palmetto state have palmetto bugs?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2026 01:26 PM (l3cgK) 284
I saw a post on X that Graham was very much a "get the R elected" type, not really caring if they were hardline on some things or not. Probably would have done better with him having more leadership in helping get Senators elected, since scumbags like McConnell have always seemed all too happy to let a candidate wither and die on the vine if they defeated his preferred toady in a primary.
Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:26 PM (3tZV2) Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:27 PM (Riz8t) 286
>>Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (5V1rK)
You can banty insults all you want, you have displayed that you are without value. You know only envy and you covet the gains of others because they have a displaced sense of worth. I pity you. Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:27 PM (5MUB0) 287
283 Does the Palmetto state have palmetto bugs?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2026 Yes. It’s cute we called them that down here, isn’t it? Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 01:27 PM (Dd38x) 288
My kids are GenZ. They think we (wife and so) were so lucky to have grown up when we did, 80s and 90s. They hate AI and realize social media has fucked up their generation. They yearn for a simpler more analog world they’ve never known.
They’re not alone. Kids today are into record players, Polaroid cameras are back, music from pre 2010 is really popular with that age group. Friends, the Office, Seinfeld are popular streaming shows . Theres a huge nostalgia movement by teenagers for their parents’ time. It’s interesting to see. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:28 PM (Xe8e7) Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:28 PM (Riz8t) 290
>>My X feed has two things in it today. The Graham death and a dude getting demolished by a bison.
This needs more Bison Link. Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (5MUB0) 291
283 Does the Palmetto state have palmetto bugs?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2026 01:26 PM ***** We have camellias. Posted by: Mississippi at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (2Ez/1) 292
John needs to police that moostache.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (4NO2D) 293
283 Does the Palmetto state have palmetto bugs? - jim (in Kalifornia)
You mean the cockroach air force? Very definitely. Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (2L+MU) Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (lJ0H4) 295
>>> My X feed has two things in it today. The Graham death and a dude getting demolished by a bison.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (u73oe) I feel really sorry for bison because when I see them standing out on the wide plains, all alone, I can tell they just want a friendly belly rub, or some skritches right between the horns. But no one is approaching them, even though that's literally all they want, some up close playful time with their favorite human critters. Posted by: banana Dream - please befriend a bison, won't you? at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (3uBP9) 296
As a South Carolinian who voted for Miss Lindsey in his first Congressional campaign in 1994 (remember the Contract with America? Term limits? Lindsey forgot that part), I have very mixed feelings. I wanted Lindsey out, but not like this. I know PDJT endorsed him this time so he considered him on our side. I had 2 big problems with him: Ukraine and his J6 comments.
I woke up this morning with the horrible thought that McMaster might appoint Nikki or Nancy. I think he'll go with Evette, but I'm usually wrong in my predictions. (In 2016, I thought Trump was a Clinton plant to eff up the R primary) Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (hPLSE) 297
They’re not alone. Kids today are into record players, Polaroid cameras are back, music from pre 2010 is really popular with that age group. Friends, the Office, Seinfeld are popular streaming shows .
Ummmm...I wonder how they'd do without 500 channels available whenever they wanted. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t) 298
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:22 PM (1Ff7Z)
I wasn't judging you personally . Its unfortunate, but not surprising that many people only have read this and so think "That's what what puritans are like" The public school system would want high schoolers to have a negative view of both religion and Puritans I would hate to be judged on a snippet from one sermon and I haven't written a fraction ( no books let along the amount of sermons ) from Jonathan Edwards. It's surprising that he wrote as much as he did having a beloved wife, and I think a large family and being a pastor . He died too young and was a great loss to the people of Princeton who had only recently called him to be their President before he died . Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (9AdGW) 299
Ummmm...I wonder how they'd do without 500 channels available whenever they wanted.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t) You mean how would the shows do? There were a lot of channels back in the 90s. Cable was a thing after all. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:31 PM (Xe8e7) 300
If the boomers were 45-65, I fell right in the middle.
Tack on older sis, younger sis and no dad,,, I could have turned out sooo much worse. Posted by: TeeJ ====== The world could have turned out much worse during your youth is something people forget as well. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv) 301
>Friends, the Office, Seinfeld are popular streaming shows .
------- Not that there's anything wrong with that. Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 12, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1) 302
Spring reverb. Boss pedal. Wah wah.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 01:32 PM (Cqx++) 303
My kids are GenZ. They think we (wife and so) were so lucky to have grown up when we did, 80s and 90s. They hate AI and realize social media has fucked up their generation. They yearn for a simpler more analog world they’ve never known.
Not wrong. There is a general idea that things always "progress". History says that is not true. Now we'll see how it goes. But its a pretty stark divide right now. Between those that want AI driven cars and those that absolutely do not. Other stuff like that. Of this I am sure. Because this is what I do every day. We've got to the point where I can automate things more than somebody else can come behind me and keep running. Thats's a problem. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:32 PM (5V1rK) 304
Graham’s reported net worth is only 1.4M. He clearly wasn’t doing nefarious things with his money like many in Congress. That is a plus.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2026 01:33 PM (Dd38x) 305
Punch up "Luca Signorelli demons."
They would make EXCELLENT illustrations for "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." I wouldn't be surprised if someone already thought of that. I'm thinking of Signorelli's "The Descent of Sinners into Hell." Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 01:34 PM (RCjYY) 306
Generational tribalism. Silly arguments when you consider that Cheech and Chong got along together just fine.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 01:34 PM (cI/Fd) 307
I woke up this morning with the horrible thought that McMaster might appoint Nikki or Nancy. I think he'll go with Evette, but I'm usually wrong in my predictions. (In 2016, I thought Trump was a Clinton plant to eff up the R primary)
Posted by: screaming in digital That is my pig ignorant guess but Evette ran second in a statewide runoff that Mace finished 5th AND Mace threw shade at Evette and McMasters so she is not getting the appointment for temp. I do think she will run as well as perhaps Ralph Norman for the permanent seat, dunno about whether Evette wants to go to Washington or not or wants to be a placeholder to be a bridge for someone else from the state GOP establishment. Also don't know if McMasters can appoint himself or if he would do so. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:35 PM (E4rtv) 308
Of course it wasn't called "Princeton University" then. It was "The College of NJ". One signer of the Declaration of Independece was also a clergyman- John Witherspoon . Several years ago woke dopes tried to take down his statue because he had a slave but there's no evidence he treated her badly, but older and cooler heads prevailed and the statue stayed up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:35 PM (9AdGW) 309
You know, not retired I at least keep track of days.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2026 01:35 PM (Ia/+0) 310
Spring reverb. Boss pedal. Wah wah.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2026 01:32 PM (Cqx++) Just call him "Rusty Trombones" and get it over with. Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 01:36 PM (rbvCR) 311
Gaffney SC is on I-85 and the "butt" of the peach water tower there faces north, appropriately.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2026 01:37 PM (nDXEV) 312
Funny, but it feels like a Saturday.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2026 01:37 PM (2Ez/1) 313
500 channels available whenever they wanted.
Some sun activity has wiped out ME TV and many more. Till Oct website sez? natural phenomenon known as a Sun Outage, and it happens twice a year. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 01:38 PM (Kt19C) 314
You can banty insults all you want, you have displayed that you are without value.
Your insults are comments with value. My comments are valueless insults. Where is the kickstand on a Vespa ? Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:38 PM (5V1rK) 315
304 Graham’s reported net worth is only 1.4M. He clearly wasn’t doing nefarious things with his money like many in Congress. That is a plus.
Posted by: Piper I treat most of that as guesstimates--until further reporting, we have no idea about off shore accounts, trusts, non profit foundations, etc. John McVain had a lot of money parked in his 'foundation' as well as political operatives. But for some people, money is not that much of a goal, other things are. Lindsay might or might not be that sort of person but the quality of reportage nowadays is lazy arm chair swiveling to a computer screen and like the DMV, if the computer says so, then the reporter believes that to be true. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:38 PM (E4rtv) 316
Early boomers absolutely won the the birth year lottery. Between 1930 and 1945 people had few kids due to the depression then war. So all the kids born in the late 40s and early 50s had no competition for jobs their entire working life. Combine that with the biggest economic boom in the history of the world in the 30-40 years post WW2.
Good time to be alive. I don’t hate them for it. But I think a lot of them also don’t recognize how lucky they were. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:38 PM (Xe8e7) 317
Cheech and Chong got along together just fine watching gladiator movies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 01:39 PM (Kt19C) 318
I wasn't judging you personally . Its unfortunate, but not surprising that many people only have read this and so think "That's what what puritans are like"
The public school system would want high schoolers to have a negative view of both religion and Puritans Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (9AdGW) The Puritans founded this country. Sure, they were intolerant of other denominations. They wore those silly black clothing. They didn't like music. They courted in bed during the winter. They... wait a minnit! Second look at Puritanism?? Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 01:39 PM (1Ff7Z) 319
Vox wah pedals always sounded weirdly cooler to me than the Dunlop Cry-babies. More baby-like.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2026 01:39 PM (nDXEV) 320
293 283 Does the Palmetto state have palmetto bugs? - jim (in Kalifornia)
You mean the cockroach air force? Very definitely. Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2026 01:29 PM (2L+MU) Terrifying little bastards. Terminate with extreme prejudice on sight. Posted by: You may need a quad.50 though at July 12, 2026 01:39 PM (TbWk/) 321
If Pamela Evette wants the job it is probably hers.
Nancy Mace was on George Santos' list of sex pests. Which was otherwise mostly full of men. If she runs she is nuts because she won't win. Mark Lynch already lost the primary so it might piss voters off if he's on the byline again. That said he seemed solid. Best bet looks like to draft Evette, put Lynch in her seat as LtGov, and tell Mace to go away. Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2026 01:39 PM (gKWVE) 322
Good time to be alive. I don’t hate them for it. But I think a lot of them also don’t recognize how lucky they were.
Posted by: Facts Oh, I do. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 01:40 PM (lJ0H4) 323
Not wrong. There is a general idea that things always "progress". History says that is not true.
---- Exactly. 'Progress' is not necessairily improvement. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:40 PM (XeU6L) 324
Ummmm...I wonder how they'd do without 500 channels available whenever they wanted.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t) You mean how would the shows do? There were a lot of channels back in the 90s. Cable was a thing after all. Nah, I was just saying (badly) is that while it's natural to look back fondly at the best things of the past, it's usual to ignore the bad parts. Thus, when I was growing up, we had 3 channels, mostly garbage, and if we were lucky, a snow-filled UHF channel or two; none of which were on our schedule. Also, we had to get up to change the channel. It was grueling, I tellz ya. Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2026 01:42 PM (Riz8t) 325
Vox wah pedals always sounded weirdly cooler to me than the Dunlop Cry-babies. More baby-like.
Not a thing I could ever master. Its hard enough just to play the notes. And I always liked a bend up and down. But was never a Wah guy. Or a Flanger guy. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:42 PM (5V1rK) 326
Kids watching friends have no idea what a TV channel is. 1 channel or 500 channels is irrelevant. It’s all streaming.
I cut cable about 2011,2012 something like that. My kids have no clue how traditional TV works. I’m not sure if they even understand what a TV network is. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:43 PM (Xe8e7) 327
90 I wonder how many people really love their work, vs. they just lack the imagination to do anything different than what they've always done.
don't sell us short. some of us love our work *and* lack the imagination to do anything different. Posted by: anachronda at July 12, 2026 01:43 PM (qdr3M) 328
Mark Lynch already lost the primary so it might piss voters off if he's on the byline again. That said he seemed solid.
Best bet looks like to draft Evette, put Lynch in her seat as LtGov, and tell Mace to go away. Posted by: gKWVE --- I voted for Lynch in the primary, mostly as an anti-Lindsey vote. Some PAC was sending really nasty mailers against Lynch with rather bizarre accusations. I wonder why they bothered. He was never close in the polling and Lindsey ran away with it. Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2026 01:43 PM (hPLSE) Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2026 01:44 PM (mP0Kj) 330
"Exactly. 'Progress' is not necessairily improvement."
****** Ok, we'll take back, air travel, satellite communications, microprocessors, penicillin and air conditioning. You're welcome. Posted by: The Patriarchy at July 12, 2026 01:44 PM (2Ez/1) 331
I cut cable about 2011,2012 something like that. My kids have no clue how traditional TV works. I’m not sure if they even understand what a TV network is.
Posted by: Facts -------- I'm waiting for some term to evolve which replaces 'dialing' the telphone. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:45 PM (XeU6L) 332
I have come to believe in Plato's cave metaphor about politics and events-except his putative guardians are stuck in the cave metaphor as well. We all see shadows on the wall and think those reflect the real picture of the world but unlike Plato assuming his guardians knew the real world (by excessive belief in rationalism), the 'guardians' are just as prone to self deception, folly, and human pigheadedness as the rest of us.
So we throw our 'darts' at the target and presume that they are some facsimile of the 'truth' when that target is just a shadow on the wall like our darts. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:45 PM (E4rtv) 333
Also, Graham had no children, so that may be one reason he was indifferent to accumulating wealth.
Regarding the vacancy: Governors who appoint themselves to the Senate are often signing their political death warrant. I'm thinking especially of Gov. Wendell Anderson (D-MN) who appointed himself to Walter Mondale's former Senate seat in 1978. Voters no like. Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 01:46 PM (RCjYY) 334
Good time to be alive. I don’t hate them for it. But I think a lot of them also don’t recognize how lucky they were.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:38 PM (Xe8e7) My personal frustration with Boomers is their ossified and denial-laden view of things, as though the economy of their day, the buying power of their day, the politics of their day, the values of their day, the sociocultural makeup of their day is exactly the same now as it was then. You try to explain that you can't reason with the Democrats of today and they look at you like you've grown a second head. You show them the decline of the American dollar, wage stagnation and consumer and educational inflation and they can't comprehend that a part time job at the sock hop on weekends won't pay for a house, car, gas, groceries and college tuition anymore. Posted by: Things ascend and decline at July 12, 2026 01:46 PM (TbWk/) 335
Kids watching friends have no idea what a TV channel is. 1 channel or 500 channels is irrelevant. It’s all streaming.
I cut cable about 2011,2012 something like that. My kids have no clue how traditional TV works. I’m not sure if they even understand what a TV network is. Posted by: Facts Next week on Batman... Same Bat time. Same Bat channel. Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2026 01:46 PM (p11yt) 336
325 Vox wah pedals always sounded weirdly cooler to me than the Dunlop Cry-babies. More baby-like.
Not a thing I could ever master. Its hard enough just to play the notes. And I always liked a bend up and down. But was never a Wah guy. Or a Flanger guy. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:42 PM (5V1rK) I have an old EH Queen Wah that you could set to auto-phasing or manually imitate actual vibrato, not tremelo. A nauseating effect that worked well with a great Ampeg bass rig. Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2026 01:47 PM (nDXEV) 337
279 My X feed has two things in it today. The Graham death and a dude getting demolished by a bison.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2026 01:25 PM (u73oe) This isn't surprising. Park rangers warn Yellowstone tourists to stay in their cars, but I guess some people don't listen. Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 01:47 PM (y171U) 338
It was Lindsey Graham's campaign that was sending the anti-Lynch stuff.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 12, 2026 01:47 PM (qFwJc) 339
I'm waiting for some term to evolve which replaces 'dialing' the telphone.
Posted by: Mike Hammer "Dad, what even IS that weird square library-card-thing that saves documents?" Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2026 01:47 PM (gKWVE) 340
Fenelon, I don't know if you were around the other day when I was making an opinion on kittens.
I have found that a kitten with an age-similar peer is a lot less work, and socializes better in a house than a solitary kitten. Mine seem to have a heck of a lot more fun, too. Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 01:48 PM (rbvCR) 341
Ok, we'll take back, air travel, satellite communications, microprocessors, penicillin and air conditioning.
You're welcome. Posted by: The Patriarchy at July 12, 2026 01:44 PM (2Ez/1) And there we go. How about the Guillotine for political opponents ? Covid ? Phone Tracking and Arrests for those that attended a Transition of Power that got out of hand ? All progress. All good ? No. But, again, there are always some - here, a lot - that have that impulse to just defend that Its All Better Now Than It Used To Be. Or, Honestly - and this is the truth - the opposite. Nothing We've Got Now Isn't Worse. That's the reflex. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:48 PM (5V1rK) 342
And, in a surprise move, for seen by absolutely no one...
The IRGC claims that they assassinated him! (Shoots arrow at barn. Runs up.and paints bullseye around arrow) Posted by: buddhaha at July 12, 2026 01:06 PM (a8Wd - Here's the video: https://tinyurl.com/4hymkwyt Trump should give Iran the benefit of the doubt and believe them this time. And then Trump should blow everything up, like he should have done in the first place. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 01:48 PM (RkR9o) 343
Not to spit on a dead guy, but he was a piece of shit. He finally figured out NeverTrump wasn't going to fly in his state so he cravenly flipped the script.
Posted by: Sharpie at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (4gWXv) 344
The rise of the smart phone has taken away expedient bludgeoning weapons in the home.
Posted by: Those rotary phones were SOLID at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (TbWk/) 345
326 Kids watching friends have no idea what a TV channel is. 1 channel or 500 channels is irrelevant. It’s all streaming.
I cut cable about 2011,2012 something like that. My kids have no clue how traditional TV works. I’m not sure if they even understand what a TV network is. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:43 PM (Xe8e7) There's a post I've seen repeated twice on X about a kid explaining to a parent about the DVD player their teacher used to show a movie. Its Disney+ but you have to put a round thing into a box and then the movie plays. Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (3tZV2) 346
What Jonathan Edwards wrote to Sarah ,his future wife
https://tinyurl.com/yc56n6vz Can't be summed up as a grim puritan really . And now I need to go to church ( Going to visit the Anglican Church in North America ) so I don't have time for the estimable , articulate and highly intelligent ( really !) A. H. Lloyd to argue with me about Puritans. 😉 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (9AdGW) 347
It is the stringy bits trapped between my toes that is the best part of Tourist season here in Yellowstone.
Posted by: Yellowstone Buffalo at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (rbvCR) 348
- whig - world back then could have turned out worse.
I guess that depends on your take of what the term God really means. My take, He wrote the history of the world, past, present and future before He laid the foundations of the world. I'm just ever so thankful He, in His grace, granted me the gift of faith. I sure did nothing to deserve it. Let alone earn it. Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 01:51 PM (dAv7M) 349
The rise of the smart phone has taken away expedient bludgeoning weapons in the home.
Posted by: Those rotary phones were SOLID --------- Western Electric model 500, ftw! Although the older, phenolic receivers probably made better cudgels. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:52 PM (XeU6L) 350
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"All the people born in the late '40s had no competition for jobs their entire lives." ??? REALLY? What'd I do wrong? I didn't get in on that! Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 01:52 PM (RCjYY) 351
This isn't surprising. Park rangers warn Yellowstone tourists to stay in their cars, but I guess some people don't listen.
Posted by: Joemarine I saw that video. They weren't close to him. They were walking on the road. Something had him wired up. He was rolling in the dirt and snorting. (Maybe start of the rut?) He originally chased a white pickup and that's what brought him close to the road. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2026 01:52 PM (p11yt) 352
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
Posted by: Bison bison had had had had had at July 12, 2026 01:52 PM (TbWk/) 353
This talk of how he was a Neocon who supported retarded overseas military adventures *should* give you pause about the Iran war.
Should. But it won't because there's maybe a dime's worth of difference between you and Graham. Posted by: Junior Varsity Rapist at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (XFKSA) 354
I have come to believe in Plato's metaphor about old greek homos.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (Kt19C) 355
347 It is the stringy bits trapped between my toes that is the best part of Tourist season here in Yellowstone.
Posted by: Yellowstone Buffalo at July 12, 2026 01:49 PM (rbvCR) The old timer who got tossed, I feel bad for him cause that must have really, really hurt. Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (y171U) 356
348 - whig - world back then could have turned out worse.
I guess that depends on your take of what the term God really means. My take, He wrote the history of the world, past, present and future before He laid the foundations of the world. I'm just ever so thankful He, in His grace, granted me the gift of faith. I sure did nothing to deserve it. Let alone earn it. Posted by: TeeJ ===== Well said. We can never be too grateful for what we have and should not be envious of what we do not. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (E4rtv) 357
My personal frustration with Boomers is their ossified and denial-laden view of things…You show them the decline of the American dollar, wage stagnation and consumer and educational inflation and they can't comprehend that a part time job at the sock hop on weekends won't pay for a house, car, gas, groceries and college tuition anymore.
Posted by: Things ascend and decline at July 12, 2026 01:46 PM (TbWk/) This is my in laws. My MIL didn’t go to college. My FIL has an associates degree. They were born in the early 50s. They had good solid jobs, good middle class life, picket fence the works. And while they kinda get it, their attitude is still a lot of “these lazy kids” attitude. Especially with buying a home. They just don’t get that the $80k home they bought in 1985 would now cost $800k but their jobs (from which they long retired) only pay 3-4 times what they earned. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (Xe8e7) Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (3tZV2) 359
Something had him wired up. He was rolling in the dirt and snorting. (Maybe start of the rut?)
He originally chased a white pickup and that's what brought him close to the road. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Posted by: rickb223 News report said it is rutting season. Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (lJ0H4) 360
348 - whig - world back then could have turned out worse.
I guess that depends on your take of what the term God really means. My take, He wrote the history of the world, past, present and future before He laid the foundations of the world. I'm just ever so thankful He, in His grace, granted me the gift of faith. I sure did nothing to deserve it. Let alone earn it. Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2026 01:51 PM (dAv7M) Amen brother. Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (y171U) 361
>>>This isn't surprising. Park rangers warn Yellowstone tourists to stay in their cars, but I guess some people don't listen.
Posted by: Joemarine >That was hilarious. Dude, it's not a petting zoo. The bison was feeling frisky. A moose or bear would had stomped a mudhole in him. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (cI/Fd) 362
Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 01
Thanks very much. It probably would be much better but I am too old for two kittens right now. And there don't seem to any kittens left at the house that had the sign and if I go to the animal shelter they practically want to do a home visitation To see if you're suitable. He seems to be calming down a bit now and I'm doing my best to keep him entertained with toys. That was so kind of you to check in about this. I appreciate that. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (9AdGW) 363
The Russian military is not helping their own situation. What goes around, comes a.... round:
https://tinyurl.com/djm863mc Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (RkR9o) 364
Nancy Mace came in fifth for the governor primary a few months ago.
If she runs for Senate I doubt she would do much better. It all depends on how many candidates there are, and I expect quite a few will run for this safe seat. Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (6ydKt) 365
Most of the legacy politicians with any brains divorce themselves from the grift they get... at least on paper. Their personal accounts likely show a sizable income, but nowhere near what they're squirreling away.
Exception exist for idiots like Omar who just wiped everyone's nose in her shit. Until it became public and people started asking questions. Ms. Lindsey has a fuck-ton of money stashed away in various think tanks, endowments, and what not. I want to see a ledger. Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (jehhT) 366
late to the thread...
"Is South Carolina in play for the Democrats? Probably not, but the good people of the Palmetto State have been electing Graham for quite a while, so their judgement when it comes to the proper conduct of a United States Senator is just a bit suspect." Has Graham supported the Save Act and other efforts at electoral security? Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (Q+gd/) 367
The old timer who got tossed, I feel bad for him cause that must have really, really hurt.
Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (y171U) I don't feel that bad because the dummy stopped running and just looked when the bison got stuck in the tree. Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (3tZV2) 368
My personal frustration with Boomers is their ossified and denial-laden view of things, as though the economy of their day, the buying power of their day, the politics of their day, the values of their day, the sociocultural makeup of their day is exactly the same now as it was then.
Exactly. All coinage is relative. What can you buy for it ? Well ... any good trade job starts at $25/hr. I personally know - more than many of you I suspect - that a Journeyman or even a good Licensed Tradesman makes $50 + benefits. So lets compare. What can you buy for that ? And nobody can just be a single-earner now. A bag of fast food is $10 for one worker. He makes $25 starting out. In my day ? $15 and it cost $5. Everything is roughly the same. Except for the big stuff. My first house was pretty sweet - cost $80K. Now that same house costs $250K. Vehicles ? Not even close. Gas ? It was up around $2 once I was working and making real money. Unless you are Garrett. Things were just so much better for Garrett. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:56 PM (5V1rK) 369
"All the people born in the late '40s had no competition for jobs their entire lives."
---------- [cough] Bullshit! [cough] Actually, complete bullshit. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 01:56 PM (XeU6L) 370
Regarding the vacancy: Governors who appoint themselves to the Senate are often signing their political death warrant. I'm thinking especially of Gov. Wendell Anderson (D-MN) who appointed himself to Walter Mondale's former Senate seat in 1978.
Voters no like. Posted by: mnw ====== Depends on whether McMasters just planned to be a placeholder or not. Going to Washington and its putrid political culture is not a small decision and quite a few pols would rather stay where they are than go to DC. And depends on SC law whether he can even do such a thing but his term as governor is done in January 2028 under any circumstance and the primary is done as to who his successor will be. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:56 PM (E4rtv) 371
>>> Posted by: Junior Varsity Rapist at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (XFKSA)
You're late, faggot. Gonna get your pay docked. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (R+iUD) 372
Lindsay was a hit at parties scooting his ass across the floor like a dog with an itchy butt.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (Kt19C) 373
Me personally I will be retiring at 65 or even earlier if I can afford to. Life’s too short to spend toiling away in an office… unless you really love it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2026 12:29 PM (ugElV) == A personal choice. In my professional life I watch people retire and die rather quickly. I enjoy what I do, and as long as I can I'll get up every morning and head to the office. I'm targeting 70 to retire form full time work and then try and lean into more project work. Posted by: Black JEM at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (UQRAm) 374
"Is South Carolina in play for the Democrats? Probably not, but the good people of the Palmetto State have been electing Graham for quite a while, so their judgement when it comes to the proper conduct of a United States Senator is just a bit suspect."
Has Graham supported the Save Act and other efforts at electoral security? Posted by: davidt ===== No, SC is not in play for the Democrats. Their person running for the Senate is someone who lost to Nancy Mace in a primary for a House seat. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (E4rtv) 375
Tourists in national parks are retarded when it comes to wildlife. Especially foreign tourists.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (Xe8e7) 376
Trump should give Iran the benefit of the doubt and believe them this time. And then Trump should blow everything up, like he should have done in the first place.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 01:48 PM (RkR9o) Totally. We need merciless and devastating retaliation now! As a bonus, we'll know it would please Lindsey. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2026 01:58 PM (h7ZuX) 377
My oldest friend died of cancer back in February. I went to his funeral in March. His older, by two years, brother was there and he looked great.
7 days later he had a massive heart attack and died. They are very sneaky those massive heart attacks. Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 12, 2026 01:58 PM (qFwJc) 378
Has Graham supported the Save Act and other efforts at electoral security?
Posted by: davidt On the campaign trail, yes. Other than that, probably not. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2026 01:58 PM (BAWkL) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 01:59 PM (Kt19C) 380
Bu... but... I thought he liked us and wanted us to be happy? Can't be too happy being ruled by foreigners and perverts.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2026 12:56 PM (1Ff7Z) == I think he has a different definition of happy than you might have. Posted by: Black JEM at July 12, 2026 02:00 PM (UQRAm) 381
>>> 375 Tourists in national parks are retarded when it comes to wildlife. Especially foreign tourists.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 01:57 PM (Xe8e7) I knew someone who worked a summer job at a National Park and even back then the employees called some visitors 'tourons'. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2026 02:00 PM (R+iUD) 382
Pertaining to nothing else ... some of you have noticed the nic. The Boss Pedal.
First mass produced, semi-digital effects pedals ever made. Great stuff. Saw a ton of working in the bars bands using them. Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 02:00 PM (5V1rK) 383
Say what you want about Graham, but he was a staunch backer of Israel and Trump.. RIP... No RINO's as replacement...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 12, 2026 02:00 PM (N4DXf) 384
"Also, Graham had no children, so that may be one reason he was indifferent to accumulating wealth."
+++++ And starting wars. Posted by: But I'm not speaking ill of the dead at July 12, 2026 02:01 PM (2Ez/1) 385
Bison sends guy flying
https://tinyurl.com/4haxyerw Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:54 PM (3tZV2) - Detained. Mug shot: https://tinyurl.com/56md6sau Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 02:01 PM (RkR9o) 386
Nood
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2026 02:01 PM (BAWkL) 387
Unless the job is professional golfer or something I doubt many people truly enjoy their work. I’m content at work, I don’t dread Monday mornings like some people do. I sit at a desk in an air conditioned office and design cool things. So it’s enjoyable in a certain level.
However, if the pay were $0 you’d never see me in the office ever again. Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 02:01 PM (Xe8e7) 388
The Russian military is not helping their own situation. What goes around, comes a.... round:
--------- By contrast, when PT boat crews began mounting T9 37mm cannons, cannibalized from P-39's, in the bow of the PT boats, it worked out extremely well. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 02:02 PM (XeU6L) 389
Unless you are Garrett. Things were just so much better for Garrett.
Posted by: Boss Pedal at July 12, 2026 01:56 PM (5V1rK) What is wrong? I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly and extroverted. Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2026 02:02 PM (rbvCR) 390
367 I don't feel that bad because the dummy stopped running and just looked when the bison got stuck in the tree.
Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (3tZV2) You are right. I didn't catch that. Posted by: Joemarine at July 12, 2026 02:02 PM (y171U) 391
7 days later he had a massive heart attack and died.
They are very sneaky those massive heart attacks. Posted by: no one of any consequence Anecdotally, I've seen many cases where a loved one dies and the reaper seems to be in the neighborhood so why not him too. Usually it's the husband following the wife, but it's gone the other way too. Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2026 02:02 PM (gKWVE) 392
If she runs for Senate I doubt she would do much better. It all depends on how many candidates there are, and I expect quite a few will run for this safe seat.
Posted by: SpeakingOf Money and the hurryup campaign is going to exclude a bunch of wannabe Senators--those who already have a statewide campaign apparatus for the governor's race are probably the ones that are best able to take advantage of it. That means Evette as Lt Gov and close loser of the runoff for the governorship, Ralph Norman perhaps, and mebbe one or another US House rep. And probably Mace again because she doesn't want to retire from public life. Doubt the current AG would scrap his nomination win for the governorship but that is also not outside the realm of possibility. We are talking about an open seat in a state where typically senators serve for decades. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 02:03 PM (E4rtv) 393
Tourists in national parks are retarded when it comes to wildlife.
Remember retards in Yosemite who would smear peanut butter on a pressurized camping gaz. Bear would bite thru, escaped freezing gas would injure bear. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 02:03 PM (Kt19C) Posted by: banana Dream at July 12, 2026 02:03 PM (3uBP9) 395
Say what you want about Graham, but he was a staunch backer of Israel and Trump.. RIP... No RINO's as replacement...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 12, 2026 02:00 PM (N4DXf) - Speaking as an Israeli and an American, the things that Graham did right do not justify the ever some many things he did wrong. I hope a better politician takes his place, someone who truly understands and believes in the MAGA agenda. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (RkR9o) 396
Has Graham supported the Save Act and other efforts at electoral security?
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (Q+gd/) Trump said he talked to Lindsey on the phone last night and they mostly talked about trying to get the SAVE Act through the Senate. So he supported it. Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (6ydKt) 397
Anecdotally, I've seen many cases where a loved one dies and the reaper seems to be in the neighborhood so why not him too.
Usually it's the husband following the wife, but it's gone the other way too. Posted by: gKWVE Broken heart syndrome is a known term for it. Nearly happened with my grandmother, she had a massive heart attack a day or so after my grandfather passed and barely survived. She was in the hospital for his funeral. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (E4rtv) 398
Also long ago, on a visit to Yellowstone and the Tetons, I came across a small traffic jam on the entrance road. There was a moose maybe 20 yards from the road so there were several cars parked on the shoulder. Most were smart enough to keep their distance while taking photos but there were a few vying for Darwin awards.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (R+iUD) 399
Thanks, but I'll keep my Google Maps, Android Auto, YouTube Music, Amazon, Spotify, Walmart Plus, Rockauto, and Buc-ee's.
But mostly Buc-ee's. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (2Ez/1) 400
Buffalo. Jeeze Louise, it’s okay to call them Buffalo.
——— Wages have been stagnant since 1974, btw. They have hollowed out the dollar and destroyed manufacturing in wide swathes across the country. We do have Dollar stores, Casinos, and Methamphetamine to take up the slack, thankfully. And millions of illegal aliens to drive wages down and keep them there. Younger generations are just lazy and need to work harder, sheesh Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2026 02:04 PM (rQ950) 401
By contrast, when PT boat crews began mounting T9 37mm cannons, cannibalized from P-39's, in the bow of the PT boats, it worked out extremely well.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2026 02:02 PM (XeU6L) - RIP, Ensign Charles Parker. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 02:05 PM (RkR9o) 402
T9 37mm cannons
Your fish head wife don't have cannons like that. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 02:05 PM (Kt19C) 403
I’d give up google maps and Amazon in a heartbeat to go back to 1995 way of living.
Posted by: Facts at July 12, 2026 02:06 PM (Xe8e7) 404
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The way it's usually done, the guv resigns, & by pre-agreement, the Lt. Gov appoints the former guv. In McMaster's case, I don't think the entire scenario makes any sense for him. If he wanted to be a senator, he could appoint a placeholder, & then run in the GOP primary for the full term. Voters wouldn't necessarily resent that-- timed-out governors try to move up to Senate all the time. I wish Rep. John Campbell hadn't already announced that he has no interest. Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 02:06 PM (RCjYY) 405
Tetons!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2026 02:06 PM (Kt19C) Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2026 02:07 PM (R+iUD) 407
315 304 Graham’s reported net worth is only 1.4M. He clearly wasn’t doing nefarious things with his money like many in Congress. That is a plus.
Posted by: Piper --- The best way to play the game is to not get reimbursed in cash. Mr Graham why by a yacht when you can "borrow" mine. Don't buy a private jet Mr. Graham, you can "use" mine whenever you need it. If you can have the bank account of a typical white collar manager and live the life of a billionaire... Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2026 02:07 PM (THY4u) 408
That means Evette as Lt Gov and close loser of the runoff for the governorship, Ralph Norman perhaps, and mebbe one or another US House rep. And probably Mace again because she doesn't want to retire from public life.
Doubt the current AG would scrap his nomination win for the governorship but that is also not outside the realm of possibility. We are talking about an open seat in a state where typically senators serve for decades. Posted by: whig at July 12, 2026 02:03 PM (E4rtv) I think McMaster will appoint Evette to replace Graham and she’ll have a decent shot at winning the primary and election with McMaster and Trump’s endorsements. But we’ll see when McMaster makes his choice. Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 12, 2026 02:08 PM (6ydKt) 409
I don't feel that bad because the dummy stopped running and just looked when the bison got stuck in the tree.
Posted by: buzzion at July 12, 2026 01:55 PM (3tZV2) I think maybe he was hoping the beast had lost sight of him... Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2026 02:09 PM (/HDaX) 410
327 90 I wonder how many people really love their work, vs. they just lack the imagination to do anything different than what they've always done.
don't sell us short. some of us love our work *and* lack the imagination to do anything different. Posted by: anachronda at July 12, 2026 01:43 PM (qdr3M) ; ) Posted by: m at July 12, 2026 02:10 PM (6wpGE) Posted by: mnw at July 12, 2026 02:10 PM (RCjYY) 412
315 304 Graham’s reported net worth is only 1.4M. He clearly wasn’t doing nefarious things with his money like many in Congress. That is a plus.
Posted by: Piper --- The best way to play the game is to not get reimbursed in cash. Mr Graham why by a yacht when you can "borrow" mine. Don't buy a private jet Mr. Graham, you can "use" mine whenever you need it. If you can have the bank account of a typical white collar manager and live the life of a billionaire... Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2026 02:07 PM (THY4u) - If the 1.4M figure is true, then despite the perks you mentioned, Graham may very well have been sincere in believing that everything he did was for the best of the US. After decades, if he was self centered, there should have been a much larger balance in his account. Simply look at many of his peers. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 12, 2026 02:11 PM (RkR9o) 413
But it won't because there's maybe a dime's worth of difference between you and Graham.
Posted by: Junior Varsity Rapist at July 12, 2026 01:53 PM (XFKSA) == Once the cold war ended we should have focused all our efforts in eliminating Iran. That we got diverted all over the place in diversions, and LG was good at that, is a testament to the stupidity in the State department. Posted by: Black JEM at July 12, 2026 02:19 PM (UQRAm) Processing 0.05, elapsed 0.0565 seconds. |
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