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Can we afford utopian education?

The thinker Laren 1903.jpg

The Thinker, Singer Museum, Laren, The Netherlands

Public Education

Yesterday, I ran across a somewhat too-hagiographic piece on social media attributing the beginning of publicly funded education in the USA to Robert Dale Owen, a guy who had been involved in some failed utopian projects:


Robert Dale Owen (born Nov. 9, 1801, Glasgow, Scot.—died June 24, 1877, Lake George, N.Y., U.S.) was an American social reformer and politician. The son of the English reformer Robert Owen, Robert Dale Owen was steeped in his father’s socialist philosophy while growing up at New Lanark in Scotland—the elder Owen’s model industrial community. In 1825, father and son immigrated to the United States to set up another self-sufficient socialist community at New Harmony, Ind.

Robert Dale Owen edited the community’s newspaper, the New Harmony Gazette, until 1827, when he became associated with the controversial reformer Fanny Wright. They traveled together to Wright’s experimental community of Nashoba, Tenn., which was dedicated to the education and gradual emancipation of slaves, and from there went on to Europe.

Upon returning to the United States, Owen and Wright revisited the Nashoba and New Harmony communities, then in a state of decay. They settled in New York, where Owen edited the Free Enquirer. The paper opposed evangelical religion and advocated more liberal divorce laws, more equal distribution of wealth, and widespread industrial education; it was at the centre of radical free thought in New York. For two years, Owen, with Wright and other radicals, sought to turn the New York Workingmen’s Party away from Thomas Skidmore’s belief in an equal division of property. They successfully ousted Skidmore, but later their own program of social reform through public education was also repudiated.

After a brief trip to England in 1832, Owen returned to New Harmony. He served three terms in the Indiana legislature (1836–183, where he advocated the allocation of government funds for public schools, and two terms in the U.S. House of Representatives, where he introduced the bill creating the Smithsonian Institution. . .

He didn't stop there in his efforts to reform society, but concerning his involvement in how the Smithsonian was set up:

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Higher Education in the Past

And:

YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST:

The story behind the New York Times' 1903 claim that human flight was between one and ten million years away is even worse than it looks.

Once you understand the backstory, you realize that the New York Times story is not really about flight at all but about how elites and credentialed "experts" mistake their own failures for the boundaries of possibility.

So, how do we help young people in the Day of AI?

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No more take-home tests

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No more Bolshevik professors, either

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WEEKEND

The Week In Pictures: Goodbye, Nazi Edition

The week began with Independence Day, and it featured a lot of World Cup action. If you can call anything that happens in soccer action. Europe sweltered under a non-air conditioned heat wave, and the Iran conflict resumed. But what motivated meme-makers more than anything else was the spectacular implosion of the Graham Platner Senate campaign. I suppose because it was so unexpected: who would have imagined that the campaign of a Nazi-tattooed Communist would come to grief?

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Music

Jay and the Americans

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, Happy 250th Anniversary!

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Notable comment:

165 Dear America, Happy 250th Birthday!

I'm Canadian and, unlike far too many up here, I think the USA is the best neighbor and friend any country could ask for.

I wish I could have crashed the party 'cause it looks like everyone who is not a lefty is having a blast.

Posted by: all doubt removed at July 04, 2026 01:25 PM


Posted by: K.T. at 11:17 AM




Comments

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1 St!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 11, 2026 11:22 AM (kOluj)

2 They're not public schools.
They're government schools.

Posted by: Please make a note of it at July 11, 2026 11:22 AM (2Ez/1)

3 Jeez. Only one here?

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2026 11:23 AM (Cieih)

4 Nooded. Morning, KT!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 11, 2026 11:23 AM (kOluj)

5 Im peddling honey by a nursery.
Slow day for both of us

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2026 11:24 AM (Cieih)

6 Can we afford utopian education?

It's the farthest thing from utopian. It's a system built on envy of those who have more than the self-anointed "best and brightest". One of my favorite quotes:

“One may question whether real civilisation is so safely afloat, that we can afford to use our pens for boring holes in the bottom of it.”
-F.L. Lucas

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)

7 Great quote archimedes

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2026 11:25 AM (Cieih)

8 It's a system built on envy of those who have more than the self-anointed "best and brightest".


YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST:

The story behind the New York Times' 1903 claim that human flight was between one and ten million years away is even worse than it looks.

Once you understand the backstory, you realize that the New York Times story is not really about flight at all but about how elites and credentialed "experts" mistake their own failures for the boundaries of possibility.


Exactly as I said.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

9 "She built her name on one rule: no one should be caged for their beliefs."

I mean, some of them you just shoot because it isn't worth the money and effort to cage them.

But generally, no, fuck you lady, some "people" don't get to live among us.

Posted by: heya at July 11, 2026 11:29 AM (ctAuL)

10 The left kills people and says it is free speech

Then the left kills people engaging in free speech and says "actions have consequences".

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

11 U.S. Military Updates Physical Fitness Standards — the Anti-“Body Shaming” Crowd Is Going to Hate This
. . . .
Soldiers will be required to maintain a waist-to-height ratio of less than 0.55 under the Army’s updated body standards.

-
Apparently, I'm overqualified.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:31 AM (ndZc7)

12 I wonder what fraction of these students hail from a culture with an elaborate & institutionalized millennia-long tradition of cheating on standardized tests https://t.co/fFl54YELIw

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LOL, I like the last three, Midterm score - 100%, Final - 0%.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:31 AM (GD0B3)

13 It's a system built on envy of those who have more than the self-anointed "best and brightest".

And again, here's another quote from F.L. Lucas. I think this guy has potential.

“Thence it is possible to arrive by easy stages at the happy notion, not uncommon among 'intellectuals', that taste consists of distaste, and that the loftiest of pleasures is that of feeling displeased; and thus to end by enjoying almost nothing in literature but one's own opinions, while oneself incapable of writing a living sentence.”

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:32 AM (Riz8t)

14 I can't read, brah! What up with that there exam ??

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:32 AM (GD0B3)

15 Angela Davis is a piece of shit commie. Her shotgun should have been placed against her own head, preferably when she was mentoring Barry Soetoro.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 11, 2026 11:34 AM (KttFr)

16
I have seen results like those.
Way back when I took Econ 1 and econ 2 in summer school at a State U. Out of 20 people 2 of us got over 95% and the rest were in the 30% area.
The instructor said 'I cant curve these results'. It was to late for them to drop the class, bummer for them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 11, 2026 11:36 AM (NnhvP)

17 If that Canadian quoted here is still here:

The 100th anniversary of Confederation was from all appearances a pretty big deal. I remember barely a peep about the 150th back in 2017. What was that?

I’m suspecting it was due to leadership. PM Trudeau was in power after all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2026 11:36 AM (4g5V+)

18 Buh bye.

California’s Controversial $20-an-Hour Minimum Wage Leading to Fast Food Hotspots Closing

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:36 AM (ndZc7)

19 I could meet the height/weight but not the physical or age requirement. My uniforms from 30 years ago still fit.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2026 11:37 AM (LHPAg)

20 Take home tests chart - props to the guy who scored 59 in take home and 55 in person
Either very honest or dgaf about the class

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 11:38 AM (7gFa4)

21 Unclear on the concept.

FCC Chairman Calls Out Sunny Hostin for Saying “We Need to Flip the Senate” as ABC Argues “The View” Is Just a News Program

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)

22 Part of the rejection of the possibility of human flight was understanding what the standard engine was capable of, as well as the current understanding of aeronautics. The Smithsonian had tried to develop an aeroplane and failed in spite of all the experts they called upon to work in a committee. Hiram Maxim also had been working on a design, with all his money, in England, I think.

Both attempts did push the edges of technology, but the Wright Brothers went around it, using newer concept engines and advanced materials like Aluminum in roles that had not been tried before. They truly had pulled off a technologic leap-frog movement.

Maxim's steam power design weighed more than a ton, and got airborne for about 8 seconds before crashing. He eventually concluded that steam engines were not suitable for airplanes because of the weight. The Wright Brothers got themselves the newfangled gasoline engine to play with.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 11:38 AM (rbvCR)

23 Modern Educators are just Government Administrators that have figured out a way to short circuit the access to the Publics Wealth.
The Big Govt Admin must wait for the tax to hit the state or national treasury and then join a NGO or Agency to get their hands on the publics' money.
The Educator is right down the street at a building that will never be paid for in its useful lifetime. They pretend to be good neighbors and care for the welfare of YOUR children.
Most care about 1 thing, getting that sweet administrative position and getting out of the classroom.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:39 AM (/+uur)

24 9 "She built her name on one rule: no one should be caged for their beliefs."

In her defense, it was probably a lib judge.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 11, 2026 11:40 AM (NnhvP)

25 Good morning, so good to be here, waiting for the roofer.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 11:41 AM (Pee1E)

26 >>> 12 I wonder what fraction of these students hail from a culture with an elaborate & institutionalized millennia-long tradition of cheating on standardized tests https://t.co/fFl54YELIw

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LOL, I like the last three, Midterm score - 100%, Final - 0%.
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:31 AM (GD0B3)

Those are the ones who chickened out and dropped the class.

My favorites are the dumbass whose *cheat* score was 70 and the in-person dropped to 53, and the one who got a 55 cheating and actually improved to a whopping 59 in-person.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2026 11:42 AM (R+iUD)

27 Soldiers will be required to maintain a waist-to-height ratio of less than 0.55 under the Army’s updated body standards.

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What is shocking is that it was not a standard before. to think that the military used to reject people for being underweight! Like Jimmy Stewart.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:43 AM (GD0B3)

28 The Great Utopia if I recall correctly required the children to be separated from the parents so that they could be TAUGHT how to be good Citizens.
There seems to be a big push now in education to try to sever the parent/child relationship to make it easier to indoctrinate the future Citizen into the good life of socialism.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:43 AM (/+uur)

29 Unclear on the concept.

FCC Chairman Calls Out Sunny Hostin for Saying “We Need to Flip the Senate” as ABC Argues “The View” Is Just a News Program


Huh, I'm surprised, even shocked, to find that The View isn't politically neutral. I also believe in the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

30 the one who got a 55 cheating and actually improved to a whopping 59 in-person.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I don't think he cheated, looks like he did the work, maybe just not suited to the class

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 11:44 AM (WL2lA)

31 >>> 28 The Great Utopia if I recall correctly required the children to be separated from the parents so that they could be TAUGHT how to be good Citizens.
There seems to be a big push now in education to try to sever the parent/child relationship to make it easier to indoctrinate the future Citizen into the good life of socialism.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:43 AM (/+uur)

Big time. Commies always do this, in one form or another.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2026 11:44 AM (R+iUD)

32 >>> 30 the one who got a 55 cheating and actually improved to a whopping 59 in-person.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I don't think he cheated, looks like he did the work, maybe just not suited to the class
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 11:44 AM (WL2lA)

Yeah, you're probably right about that guy, at least he was honest!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2026 11:45 AM (R+iUD)

33 Even if the "belief" means you can kill and maim to advance the quote unquote Cause.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:45 AM (/+uur)

34 IIRC only the he Wright Brothers took off into the wind and therefore got lift, the others tried to launch with the wind and failed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 11, 2026 11:46 AM (NnhvP)

35 Those are the ones who chickened out and dropped the class.

My favorites are the dumbass whose *cheat* score was 70 and the in-person dropped to 53, and the one who got a 55 cheating and actually improved to a whopping 59 in-person.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2026 11:42 AM (R+iUD)

Those 3 are part of the remaining 59. If you read the post is says so at the top "The scores of the remaining are displayed. "

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:47 AM (GD0B3)

36 Looks like Student #22 improved his performance on the final compared to the midterm. I'd pass him.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 11:49 AM (I0N4X)

37 I suspect public school admins are shockingly overpaid

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 11:49 AM (WL2lA)

38 Good morning, so good to be here, waiting for the roofer.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Have fun. We got a new roof a few months ago. I then called my insurance company and they lowered our homeowners policy significantly.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 11, 2026 11:49 AM (VCgbV)

39 34 IIRC only the he Wright Brothers took off into the wind and therefore got lift, the others tried to launch with the wind and failed.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 11, 2026 11:46 AM (NnhvP)

Those Magnificent Man and Their Flying Machines is one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:50 AM (/+uur)

40 Law & Order.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal
@RepJayapal
Every single person who voted to give billions more to ICE last month should be ashamed.
Not one more cent of our taxpayer dollars should fund this lawless, rogue agency.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:52 AM (ndZc7)

41 >>>The Wright Brothers got themselves the newfangled gasoline engine to play with.

Posted by: Kindltot
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They asked Ford to build them an engine but he said he was busy.
Their bicycle mechanic said, I'll have a go at it and he did.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 11:53 AM (Pee1E)

42 Seems to me that you should see a pretty normal distribution of grades once a class reaches around 50 students.
4 or 5 As
4 or 5 Fs
remaining 40 sharing Bs Cs and Ds.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:53 AM (/+uur)

43 Looks like Student #22 improved his performance on the final compared to the midterm. I'd pass him.
Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 11:49 AM (I0N4X)

No distractions!

--Student #22 who has 12 cats at home

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (GD0B3)

44 I don't know where the chicken and egg question lands between the Marxism in public schools or at the University level. I would argue you need to cauterize higher education because that's where the teachers and administrators are trained.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (w/O5Q)

45 Roofer's on the roof checking it out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (Pee1E)

46 Treasury Targets Key Supreme Leader Financier and Iran’s Shadow Exchange Houses
July 10, 2026
WASHINGTON—Today, following Iran’s resumption of attacks on international shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) took action against Iranian financial facilitator Ali Ansari (Ansari), who oversees a sprawling global network of assets benefitting Iran’s leader—Mojtaba Khamenei—and other regime elites. Ansari has effectively institutionalized large‑scale embezzlement within the Iranian regime, diverting publicly funded wealth into an extensive overseas portfolio of real estate and commercial holdings to enrich himself, regime elites—including notable senior figures within the Supreme Leader’s Office—and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). OFAC today also targeted key Iranian exchange houses that move billions of dollars annually on behalf of sanctioned Iranian banks, using layers of shell companies to obscure the regime’s illicit financial activity.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0558

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (rbvCR)

47 Not one more cent of our taxpayer dollars should fund this lawless, rogue agency.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:52 AM (ndZc7)

Now do the IRS

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (/+uur)

48 There seems to be a big push now in education to try to sever the parent/child relationship to make it easier to indoctrinate the future Citizen into the good life of socialism.
Posted by: r hennigantx
__________

The family is a unit of government outside the state. That explains everything about the left's hostility to the family.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 11, 2026 11:56 AM (XvL8K)

49 I saw someone post a meme "Leftist discourse is just pretending to not understand things" and the responses from leftists made me laugh:

1) No YOU pretend to not understand things

2) No YOU rightwingers pretend you do understand things

3) I don't understand this meme like...what is it talking about?

So the traditional mix of NO YOU and...pretending to not understand things.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 11:56 AM (sKqQm)

50 I suspect public school admins are shockingly overpaid
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

An understatement. And test scores are in the toilet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2026 11:56 AM (nHABa)

51 There seems to be a big push now in education to try to sever the parent/child relationship to make it easier to indoctrinate the future Citizen into the good life of socialism.

Atheist women stopped having kids.

So unless the left can convert YOUR kids in a few generations there won't be any leftists.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 11:57 AM (sKqQm)

52
9 "She built her name on one rule: no one should be caged for their beliefs."

Funny that she spent her life proving that the opposite is in fact true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 11:57 AM (VbqNm)

53 I would argue you need to cauterize higher education because that's where the teachers and administrators are trained.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 11, 2026 11:54 AM (w/O5Q)

In 80 or 81 UT started moving Ed into its own department and it became a quote unquote college about 10 years later.
If you think about it a 4th or 5th grader could easily teach a 5 or 6 YO to read. I bet many of us learned from a babysitter or older sibling.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 11:58 AM (/+uur)

54
An understatement. And test scores are in the toilet.


There is a strong correlation between increases in education spending and decreases in any metric that measures education of students.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 11:58 AM (sKqQm)

55 Rep. Pramila Jayapal
@RepJayapal
Every single person who voted to give billions more to ICE last month should be ashamed.
Not one more cent of our taxpayer dollars should fund this lawless, rogue agency.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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And you should be sent back to Kathmandu or whatever hell hole you emerged from.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 11:58 AM (Pee1E)

56 There seems to be a big push now in education to try to sever the parent/child relationship to make it easier to indoctrinate the future Citizen into the good life of socialism.
Posted by: r hennigantx
__________

The family is a unit of government outside the state. That explains everything about the left's hostility to the family.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Religion and family are the two great opponents to government utopia and must be destroyed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:58 AM (ndZc7)

57 The Thinker

*************

Don't Put Descartes Before De Horse

There once was a thinking man named Sam
Who couldn't build things worth a damn
He justified his existence
Via mental persistence
He thinks. Therefore he am.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 11:59 AM (I0N4X)

58 Is anyone else celebrating Indian Entrepreneurship Day: 7-11?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2026 12:00 PM (qx7Zg)

59 49 I saw someone post a meme "Leftist discourse is just pretending to not understand things" and the responses from leftists made me laugh:

1) No YOU pretend to not understand things

2) No YOU rightwingers pretend you do understand things

3) I don't understand this meme like...what is it talking about?

So the traditional mix of NO YOU and...pretending to not understand things.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 11:56 AM (sKqQm)

And add in the "So you are saying" misquote or misstatement.
Male IQ scores tend to be about a standard deviation higher.
SO you are saying the females are dumb.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:00 PM (/+uur)

60 Since property taxes pretty much pay for the Gubmint schools, tie property tax rates to test scores.

Posted by: Here's an idea at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM (2Ez/1)

61 My suggestion for education reform...

Require work experience in a field to teach the field.

Want to teach chemistry? You have to have spent 10 years or more working as a chemist.

And we should move away from the notion of teaching as a career path, it should really be an option for people with real world experience to semi-retire. As opposed to your average HS student moving between 6 classes taught by an education major have courses taught by people that worked in the real world.

And honestly there shouldn't really be ANY admins. Either get the students to do the work or rely on computerization or just...stop with the paperwork

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM (sKqQm)

62 Advances lead to more advances.

Despite being one of the most common elements, aluminum was one of the rarest in its pure form, nearly all of it being locked in bauxite ore. Extracting it was prohibitively expensive.

So much so, that the tip of the Washington Monument is a priceless five-pound piece that was used as an honorific. But then came relatively cheap hydroelectric power do the extraction.

We wouldn't have planes without the strength-to-weight ratio of aluminum, starting with the Wright Brothers engine block.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM (dtajH)

63 He thinks. Therefore he am.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 11:59 AM (I0N4X)

ha

Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:02 PM (/+uur)

64 *ahem*
"Dot Not Feather Entrepreneurship Day."

Posted by: Let's be real at July 11, 2026 12:02 PM (2Ez/1)

65 And add in the "So you are saying" misquote or misstatement.
Male IQ scores tend to be about a standard deviation higher.
SO you are saying the females are dumb.


Oh there was a great one of these in a sub-thread. Some right leaning poster "An example of this is leftists pretending not to understand the differences in criminality between legal and illegal immigrants and just using the stats of the former to argue we shouldn't deport the latter" and the leftist response? "So you hate brown people?"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:03 PM (sKqQm)

66 We wouldn't have planes without the strength-to-weight ratio of aluminum, starting with the Wright Brothers engine block.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM (dtajH)

British plane builders needed another 10 years just to agree on the pronunciation of aluminum.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:03 PM (/+uur)

67 So the traditional mix of NO YOU and...pretending to not understand things.
Posted by: 18-1

**********

The James Monroe doesn't get it!

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (I0N4X)

68 "Dot Not Feather Entrepreneurship Day."
Posted by: Let's be real at July 11, 2026 12:02 PM (2Ez/1)

ha

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (/+uur)

69 Anyone who says World Cup is boring should watch highlights from the England Mexico game. Or Argentina/Cape Verde. Belgium/Senegal, US/Turkey. There have been so many amazing games throughout the tournament.

The stereotype 0-0 game pretty much has been non-existent.

Norway England today should be a great game.

Posted by: Life Hacks at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (yzP4d)

70 The soft disciplines at our universities once served as culture carriers from one generation to the next. The hard disciplines expanded our understanding of the physical world which often paid momentous dividends.

The first is no longer true. And the second has become less true.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (dtajH)

71
27 Soldiers will be required to maintain a waist-to-height ratio of less than 0.55 under the Army’s updated body standards.”

I think most leftist women have a ratio of 1:1

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (VbqNm)

72 "We wouldn't have planes without the strength-to-weight ratio of aluminum..."
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM
++++

Or Festivus poles.

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (2Ez/1)

73 The one thing commies understand is the need to kill their enemies.

If only those who oppose communism would learn this and apply the same rules to them it would save the world a lot of trouble.

Posted by: Zombie Nicholas II and his whole zombie family at July 11, 2026 12:05 PM (ftsic)

74 Don't forget the father of modern US public schools, John Dewey (d. 1952).

Posted by: WillowViney at July 11, 2026 12:06 PM (d3MA1)

75 Dang, will wonders never cease. A kid from my UMC neighborhood is going around offering to work in my yard. I mean work, real manual labor.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

76 US-Belgium game had 51M people watching. That’s the highest non-NFL sports audience since the 1994 Olympics with the Nancy/Tonya drama.

Posted by: Life Hacks at July 11, 2026 12:06 PM (yzP4d)

77 What's a UMC neighborhood?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at July 11, 2026 12:07 PM (2Ez/1)

78 Male IQ scores tend to be about a standard deviation higher.

Wrong.

there is no statistically significant difference between the average IQs of men and women. Both sexes share identical averages across the broader population, though the distribution and variation of these scores differ noticeably.The scientific and psychological consensus highlights the following distinctions:
Identical Averages: Standard intelligence tests are specifically designed to avoid gender bias, resulting in equal mean IQ scores globally.
Difference in Spread: The distribution curve for men tends to be wider or more variable than that for women. This means there are statistically more men at both the extreme high and extreme low ends of the spectrum.
Specific Cognitive Strengths: While general intelligence is equal, men and women often excel in different sub-domains. Women typically score higher in tests involving verbal fluency and memory, while men generally demonstrate higher average performance in visual-spatial tasks and mathematical reasoning

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

79 What's a UMC neighborhood?

Upper Middle Class

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

80
Is Rep. PayPal whining about this ICE incident in Houston? I reckon when the facts come out it will disappear rapidly.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:09 PM (O0L8i)

81 Is this about me?

Posted by: United Methodist Church at July 11, 2026 12:10 PM (2Ez/1)

82 "What's a UMC neighborhood?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask"

Twenty bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: Ok, I'll answer at July 11, 2026 12:10 PM (MWfyi)

83 If only those who oppose communism would learn this and apply the same rules to them it would save the world a lot of trouble.

I'm reminded of the Wolf's Lair plot in Germany. They captured Goebbels and instead of just shooting him decided to "arrest" him so he could later by put on trial.

Now because they failed to kill Hitler the plot probably would have still failed but a dead Goebbels would have made things much easier and the man obviously deserved it...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:10 PM (sKqQm)

84 Oregon has always had a college of education in the university curriculum. It is not that specialization that caused the problem. I have had family teaching since the 1920's, and they were good teachers and in turn good administrators.
The problem is more of the sieve issue, where the competent teachers with a sense of mission were sidelined and the insane activist ones with an agenda were promoted. Add to that the various academic crazes that decide that they can best teach skills without actual work and that drives any competent teacher insane.

Education is not complex, it is a learned skill, like teaching cats to jump through hoops or horses to not panic at everything they see in a paddock.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:10 PM (rbvCR)

85 Back to the graph
So Student 1 and 2 and maybe 3 an A
S 3-7 B
S 8-14 C
S 15-19 D
S 20 - 59 F

Would love to see if there were question everyone missed or maybe 80% missed.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:11 PM (/+uur)

86 Is Rep. PayPal whining about this ICE incident in Houston? I reckon when the facts come out it will disappear rapidly.

The left still likes to pretend Renee Goode was just randomly shot.

Of course Pretti's death is almost comical. The left tells us guns are more likely to get you killed then protect you...but one of their street thugs decided to go to a riot strapped and assault a cop. He didn't use the gun but he was shot because it went off while he was being disarmed...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:12 PM (sKqQm)

87 I'm reminded of the Wolf's Lair plot in Germany. They captured Goebbels and instead of just shooting him decided to "arrest" him so he could later by put on trial.

Goebbels committed suicide before being captured. Are you thinking of Goering?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:12 PM (Riz8t)

88
79 What's a UMC neighborhood?

Upper Middle Class
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

Thanks, I was having a hard time deciding between Methodist or Marine Corps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 12:13 PM (VbqNm)

89 Somewhat related: Canadian professor Gad Saad (a Lebanese Jew immigrant) has an editorial in the WSJ announcing that Canada is toast, and he's relocating to the US. Most of it concerns his recent book's analysis of how it went wrong there, called "Suicidal Empathy." https://tinyurl.com/vt8w9rjv

The punchline is this: he's relocating to the University of Mississippi! The South. If you're on X, you may recall Saad's offhand slur of white Southerners a few years back:

@GadSaad
Jew-hater: Why are you defending Israel, you Zionist pig? I thought that you're from Canada.

Me: Well, I defend liberal democracies; I'm Jewish and I have tons of family in Israel. By the way, your name is Roscoe Jethroe, you're from Arkansas. Why do you have a "From the river to the sea" tattooed on your forehead?

Jew-hater: STFU, Jew. Zionist!


Guess Southern rednecks aren't the biggest anti-Semites, prof. Saad?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:13 PM (X8xt3)

90 There are more men than women who are retards, and more men than women who are geniuses.

Posted by: WillowViney at July 11, 2026 12:13 PM (d3MA1)

91 Oh there was a great one of these in a sub-thread. Some right leaning poster "An example of this is leftists pretending not to understand the differences in criminality between legal and illegal immigrants and just using the stats of the former to argue we shouldn't deport the latter" and the leftist response? "So you hate brown people?"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:03 PM (sKqQm)

Some of them. Not because they're brown, but because they're evil assholes. Same way I hate some white people because they're evil assholes. It's the "evil asshole" component which is the determining factor.

Posted by: Plenty of legitimate reasons to hate people at July 11, 2026 12:14 PM (TbWk/)

92 Oh there was a great one of these in a sub-thread. Some right leaning poster "An example of this is leftists pretending not to understand the differences in criminality between legal and illegal immigrants and just using the stats of the former to argue we shouldn't deport the latter" and the leftist response? "So you hate brown people?"

Posted by: 18-1
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Why consider these people? They cannot be corrected.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:14 PM (Pee1E)

93 Union Metallic Cartridges

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:14 PM (rbvCR)

94
The first is no longer true. And the second has become less true.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (dtajH)

_____________

I'm accumulating references from the scientific literature in a technical area. As they trend into the present day, I start asking just how believable they are. For that reason, I'm not running down every citation in every jake-leg journal.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:14 PM (O0L8i)

95 75 Dang, will wonders never cease. A kid from my UMC neighborhood is going around offering to work in my yard. I mean work, real manual labor.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

Why is he offering working in your yard to other neighbors? Is your lawn that bad?

Posted by: The HOA will not stand for this! at July 11, 2026 12:16 PM (TbWk/)

96 Reluctantly came to work

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2026 12:17 PM (sgkY8)

97 'm accumulating references from the scientific literature in a technical area. As they trend into the present day, I start asking just how believable they are. For that reason, I'm not running down every citation in every jake-leg journal.

I trust the Indian Journal of Uttar Nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

98 I wonder if the homo cruise in the Med. will end up like the covid cruise a few years ago, wandering from port to port and always turned away.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:17 PM (mDji4)

99
A kid from my UMC neighborhood is going around offering to work in my yard. I mean work, real manual labor.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

_________

He might get hit with a shovel by Feech or Paulie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:17 PM (O0L8i)

100 Why is he offering working in your yard to other neighbors? Is your lawn that bad?

Posted by: The HO


Paradoxically, it's one of the nicest. I guess he figures I care enough to be willing to part with some coin to keep it that way.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:18 PM (Riz8t)

101 It's really too bad Platner didn't channel Tricky Dick in his walk-away letter, closing with "You won't have Graham Platner to kick around any longer".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:18 PM (mDji4)

102 Goebbels committed suicide before being captured. Are you thinking of Goering?
Posted by: Archimedes


***********

Speaking for myself, I was thinking of Goebbels...fondly.

Posted by: Richard Gere at July 11, 2026 12:18 PM (I0N4X)

103 Is Jayapal one of those we could rescind her citizenship and deport her?

Posted by: Wenda at July 11, 2026 12:18 PM (esZfd)

104
90 There are more men than women who are retards, and more men than women who are geniuses.
Posted by: WillowViney at July 11, 2026 12:13 PM (d3MA1)

True statement. A lot of interesting speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 12:19 PM (VbqNm)

105
Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe it's a girl offering to do your yard work.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:19 PM (O0L8i)

106 ...wait for it.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 12:19 PM (I0N4X)

107 100 Why is he offering working in your yard to other neighbors? Is your lawn that bad?

Posted by: The HO

Paradoxically, it's one of the nicest. I guess he figures I care enough to be willing to part with some coin to keep it that way.

Posted by: Archimedes
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Liberals always assume the negative.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:19 PM (Pee1E)

108 "there is no statistically significant difference between the average IQs of men and women."
"Identical Averages: Standard intelligence tests are specifically designed to avoid gender bias, resulting in equal mean IQ scores globally."
"Women typically score higher in tests involving verbal fluency and memory, while men generally demonstrate higher average performance in visual-spatial tasks and mathematical reasoning"

What this tells me is that an IQ test is a measuring rod that's been designed to measure what it measures. It has its uses but it's not very good at identifying "genius." We typically identify high-end achievements in abstract reasoning and invention with men. That's the fact, Jack.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:19 PM (dtajH)

109
The left still likes to pretend Renee Goode was just randomly shot.

Of course Pretti's death is almost comical. The left tells us guns are more likely to get you killed then protect you...but one of their street thugs decided to go to a riot strapped and assault a cop. He didn't use the gun but he was shot because it went off while he was being disarmed...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2026 12:12 PM (sKqQm)

The Goode shoot was a hell of a lot cleaner than Pretti. That was something of a chaotic clusterfuck. Much much easier to make the "lawful but awful" argument in the Goode case.

Posted by: Still, don't take a gun to an obstruction of justice party at July 11, 2026 12:20 PM (TbWk/)

110 True statement. A lot of interesting speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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They only have one brain.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:20 PM (Pee1E)

111 It is so great PDJT is cleaning up the Smithsonian. It was a heartache every time someone exposed their crazy anti-Americanism. Thank you, Donald Trump!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:20 PM (mDji4)

112 59 49 I saw someone post a meme "Leftist discourse is just pretending to not understand things" and the responses from leftists made me laugh:

1) No YOU pretend to not understand things

2) No YOU rightwingers pretend you do understand things

3) I don't understand this meme like...what is it talking about?

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All clever rhetorical devices, but none matches the show-stopping power of placing one's hand over one's ears and chanting, "neener neener neener, I can't HEAR you!"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2026 12:22 PM (u/oMr)

113 What this tells me is that an IQ test is a measuring rod that's been designed to measure what it measures. It has its uses but it's not very good at identifying "genius." We typically identify high-end achievements in abstract reasoning and invention with men. That's the fact, Jack.

We don't disagree. As I've suggested in the past here, my pet theory is that Mother Nature can take chances with men, but not with women, since the latter are the reproductive rate limiters. The loss of some not so bright males is no big deal in terms of the future of the species. Not so for women.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:22 PM (Riz8t)

114 >>I wonder if the homo cruise in the Med. will end up like the covid cruise a few years ago, wandering from port to port and always turned away.


Kinda hope so?

They need a reality check on who the real haters are.
Your neighbor who doesn't attend drag queen story hour is exerting normal parental control, the people who regularly throw people from your 'community' off buildings are the haters.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:22 PM (X8xt3)

115 Guess Southern rednecks aren't the biggest anti-Semites, prof. Saad?
Posted by: Lizzy

I really don't see how that was saying ppl from Arkansas are anti-Semites ?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 12:22 PM (7gFa4)

116 110 True statement. A lot of interesting speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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They only have one brain.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:20 PM (Pee1E)

But it's missing 90% of the volume in the prefrontal cortex that males have and the amygdala is the size of a baseball so it evens out.

Posted by: MY FEELINGS ARE FACTS!! at July 11, 2026 12:23 PM (TbWk/)

117 110 True statement. A lot of interesting speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

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Not my makeup

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at July 11, 2026 12:23 PM (u/oMr)

118 University of Massachusetts - Concord

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 12:23 PM (I0N4X)

119 The original subtitle of that sculpture was "So The Cat Horked Again"

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 11, 2026 12:24 PM (DZ9Lv)

120 He might get hit with a shovel by Feech or Paulie.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
__________

Who's your money on if it come to a fight between those two?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 11, 2026 12:25 PM (XvL8K)

121 >>Is Jayapal one of those we could rescind her citizenship and deport her?


IIRC, she came here as a college student? Definitely as an adult. If she goes, she should take her sister back with her!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:25 PM (X8xt3)

122 True statement. A lot of interesting speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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They only have one brain.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:20 PM (Pee1E)
====================
I believe the old joke explains part of the variation in male IQ results, because sometimes the brain is not working.


God: "I have good news and bad news, men."

Men: "What is it?"

God: "The good news is you get both the penis and a larger brain. The bad news is you only get enough blood to operate one at a time."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:25 PM (g2cDL)

123 ...speculation as to why men have far more random variations in their makeup than women do.

*********

Give me a break! I've only been doing it since I was 52!!

Posted by: Admiral R. Levine at July 11, 2026 12:26 PM (I0N4X)

124 Lizzy, I think the point to that slur was not being offhandedly racist or classist, I think the point was that Jethro had absolutely no stake in Gaza, and yet was foaming at the mouth about it, whereas Saad had everything taken by the Palestinian's eternal warfare, and looks to lose most of it again.

It has been said, by Saad and others, that the greatest tragedy of the shore of the Eastern Mediterranean is that the supplying and agitation for the last 80 years of conflict there have been underwritten by people who neither live there, nor ever want to ever live there, Jethro from AR included.

Saad is going to lose 50% or more of his total wealth making the move, but "there are no pockets in a shroud" as the saying goes.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:27 PM (rbvCR)

125 I less concerned with IQs and the "soft" educational pursuits that self styled intellectuals find important or worth decades of analysis than I am with people who have the skillsets to fix, and keep running the technology that keeps most of us alive.

Like electricity and running water.

Naval gazing isn't going to keep the lights on.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2026 12:28 PM (jehhT)

126 Utopian education is government Propaganda

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2026 12:29 PM (sgkY8)

127 Daily Mail is reporting that Mitch McConnell's condition looks stable.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:30 PM (gKWVE)

128 Maybe another Carrington event will cleanse us right good.

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 11, 2026 12:30 PM (DZ9Lv)

129 >>I really don't see how that was saying ppl from Arkansas are anti-Semites ?


His typical "Jew-hater" in his scenario is named Roscoe Jethro and from Arkansas. When you think of the campus pro-Palestine rallies that popped up across the country in 2023, were they happening in the South, were the participants "Roscoe Jethroe" types?

No, they were primarily coastal and blue state universities with either ME foreign students or your typical Commie radical children of privilege - not good ol' Southern boys.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:31 PM (X8xt3)

130 Why consider these people? They cannot be corrected.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:14 PM (Pee1E)


Correia's first rule of internet argument: Internet arguing is a spectator sport, it is not to convince your opponent, it is to influence the spectators

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:32 PM (rbvCR)

131 And add in the "So you are saying" misquote or misstatement.
Male IQ scores tend to be about a standard deviation higher.
SO you are saying the females are dumb.


That's usually expressed like this:

"I like apples"
"Why do you hate oranges?"

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:33 PM (QZThv)

132 Daily Mail is reporting that Mitch McConnell's condition looks stable.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:30 PM (gKWVE)

Room temperature is stable, right?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2026 12:34 PM (qx7Zg)

133 Correia's first rule of internet argument: Internet arguing is a spectator sport, it is not to convince your opponent, it is to influence the spectators
Posted by: Kindltot

I understand that the theory and practice of classical rhetoric was similar. They were training lawyers to argue the case in assembly.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:34 PM (gKWVE)

134 112 59 49 I saw someone post a meme "Leftist discourse is just pretending to not understand things" and the responses from leftists made me laugh:

1) No YOU pretend to not understand things

2) No YOU rightwingers pretend you do understand things

3) I don't understand this meme like...what is it talking about?

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ChemJeff, anyone?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:34 PM (Pee1E)

135 Oh is the Roscoe Jethro s hypothetical, not an actual account?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 12:35 PM (7gFa4)

136 I've been working on "100 Americans Who Should Be Famous (But Aren't)"

One is Claude Shannon who invented the modern digital computer. His insight was to use electrical switches to do formal logic. Sounds simple in retrospect, but no one else was close at the time. It wasn't his only invention.

John von Neumann was the smartest mind of the 20th Century. A polymath who made fundamental contributions to anything he went near. Told better jokes than Einstein at Princeton parties.

How do you measure this with a multiple-choice test?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:36 PM (dtajH)

137 I meant to share this story from Spain on the obt, it popped up in my x feed yesterday:

"In Spain, the 13-year-old daughter of a mother was kidnapped and raped by a neighbor. The attacker was sentenced to nine years in prison.


Approximately six years after serving his sentence, the attacker was released on parole and returned to the city. He encountered the mother in a bar near a bus stop.


The attacker mockingly asked her: "How is your daughter?" Enraged, she bought gasoline, returned to the bar, doused the man with it, and set him on fire.


The man suffered severe burns and died a few days later.

Although gripped by panic, she did not flee, but instead confessed what had happened to those around her and waited for the police to arrive.


She was sentenced to five years and six months in prison, but thanks to a pardon campaign and for health reasons, she was released after serving part of her sentence."

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 12:36 PM (7gFa4)

138 Guess Southern rednecks aren't the biggest anti-Semites, prof. Saad?

That's the opposite of what Dr. Saad was saying. His point was that if you're a redneck, why do you hate Jews? Because that's weird and atypical.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:37 PM (QZThv)

139 Rep. Pramila Jayapal
@RepJayapal
Every single person who voted to give billions more to ICE last month should be ashamed.
Not one more cent of our taxpayer dollars should fund this lawless, rogue agency.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 11, 2026 11:52 AM



*makes shake-weight gesture*

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 11, 2026 12:37 PM (4NO2D)

140 So many commies to kill, so little time.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2026 12:38 PM (wvc0i)

141 @102

It's funny because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0c0u3s75w

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2026 12:38 PM (I0N4X)

142 >>I think the point to that slur was not being offhandedly racist or classist, I think the point was that Jethro had absolutely no stake in Gaza, and yet was foaming at the mouth about it,


Why not a trust fund gal from Manhattan?
Or a Congresswoman's child based on Ilhan Omar's Commie daughter, Tim Kaine's antifa son, that MA Congresswoman's trans antifa son/"daughter?"
He chose the safe target in his scenario, the one that is typically mocked in academia, media, and politics: the white, Southern man.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:38 PM (X8xt3)

143 His point was that if you're a redneck, why do you hate Jews? Because that's weird and atypical.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:37 PM (QZThv)

PJ O'Rourke (in the 1980s, when he was good) wrote a very funny book "Modern Manners". He suggested that white Americans invent a secret negro wayyy back in the bloodline to make them more exotic.
But if you have REAL social aspirations, swap that out for a Jew. "High class Americans aren't racist, they're antisemitic"

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:40 PM (gKWVE)

144 Why not a trust fund gal from Manhattan?

His point is that rednecks typically love Jews. A trust fund gal from Manhattan probably had a Palestinian flag assigned at birth, so that would reverse the point he was making.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:40 PM (QZThv)

145 >>>His typical "Jew-hater" in his scenario is named Roscoe Jethro and from Arkansas. When you think of the campus pro-Palestine rallies that popped up across the country in 2023, were they happening in the South, were the participants "Roscoe Jethroe" types?

Was his name really Jethro? Do you think that slur was more against someone who was a redneck from Arkansas or against someone who desperately feared being identified with what they consider to be that sort of low class trash?

I mean, clearly you consider this to be a slur against good red-blooded conservative men in the South, but then people like that don't actually talk like that, and the ones that do are repelled by being considered southern, conservative or staunchly American. Being called one probably stung worse than anything, note the response, "Jew-hater: STFU, Jew. Zionist!" Probably hit the nerve.

My point is, calling out idiots and labelling them with the very stereotypes they hate and fear is a nasty tactic, and a way to end a fight against that sort of idiot.

I would not want to get into a verbal battle with Saad, he would eat my lunch and feed me my shoes.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:40 PM (rbvCR)

146 138 Guess Southern rednecks aren't the biggest anti-Semites, prof. Saad?

That's the opposite of what Dr. Saad was saying. His point was that if you're a redneck, why do you hate Jews? Because that's weird and atypical.

Posted by: Ian S
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Genius, how does he know, never having lived in the South?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:41 PM (Pee1E)

147
John von Neumann was the smartest mind of the 20th Century. A polymath who made fundamental contributions to anything he went near. Told better jokes than Einstein at Princeton parties.

____________

Unfortunately for his reputation, von Neumann did a great deal of work for the government and wasn't a tortured pseudo-martyr like Oppenheimer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:41 PM (O0L8i)

148 Daily Mail is reporting that Mitch McConnell's condition looks stable.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:30 PM (gKWVE)


Dead is stable

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

149
Mitch is asymptotically approaching room temperature, so, yes, stable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2026 12:43 PM (O0L8i)

150 Ro Khanna is wandering around Israel this weekend, irritating people.

Same as home.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:44 PM (vwlv+)

151 So was this Gad Saad - Jethroe thibg in his book or online or in a speech? I need context

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 12:44 PM (6U1c2)

152 135 Oh is the Roscoe Jethro s hypothetical, not an actual account?

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I would have used Cletus McCoy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2026 12:44 PM (u/oMr)

153 Mitch is asymptotically approaching room temperature, so, yes, stable.

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Or he could be just horsing around.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at July 11, 2026 12:46 PM (u/oMr)

154 Genius, how does he know, never having lived in the South?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:41 PM (Pee1E)


That is very true. He has always lived in a box in Montreal living on nothing but poutine and has no knowledge or contact with anyone or anything outside of Quebec.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:47 PM (rbvCR)

155 152 135 Oh is the Roscoe Jethro s hypothetical, not an actual account?

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I would have used Cletus McCoy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2026 12:44 PM (u/oMr)

Leroy Jenkins was otherwise occupied.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2026 12:47 PM (mP0Kj)

156
Unfortunately for his reputation, von Neumann did a great deal of work for the government and wasn't a tortured pseudo-martyr like Oppenheimer.


Oppenheimer was a big crybaby.

Posted by: Harry Truman at July 11, 2026 12:49 PM (Riz8t)

157 Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:40 PM (rbvCR)

Clearly everything he knows about the South he learned from that great historical documentary, the Beverly Hillbillies.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2026 12:50 PM (mP0Kj)

158 EBT Money sent to an individual
SSI Money sent to an individual
Medicaid Money sent to provider selected an individual
Medicare Money sent to provider selected an individual
K-12 Education money sent to a building

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 11, 2026 12:50 PM (/+uur)

159 Clearly everything he knows about the South he learned from that great historical documentary, the Beverly Hillbillies.

The later work in Green Acres disproved much of what was asserted in the BHs.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

160 >>So was this Gad Saad - Jethroe thibg in his book or online or in a speech? I need context


It was on X a few years back
https://tinyurl.com/4vs6ut3t

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 12:51 PM (X8xt3)

161 von Neumann dabbled in Economics as a diversion the way we might do crossword puzzles.

He co-invented Game Theory with John Nash, who they made a movie about starring Russell Crowe, A Beautiful Mind.

von Neumann was behind Mutual Assured Destruction. Don't laugh. It worked.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:51 PM (dtajH)

162 Genius, how does he know, never having lived in the South?

He'd been invited to speak pretty much everywhere in the US. And in several of those instances he turned it into a vacation.

Not a genius, I've just heard several of his interviews (he's a popular guest on Joe Rogan, and he's good friends with Michael Malice).

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:53 PM (QZThv)

163 Bonk bonk on tha head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (nDXEV)

164 That is very true. He has always lived in a box in Montreal living on nothing but poutine and has no knowledge or contact with anyone or anything outside of Quebec.

Posted by: Kindltot
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It's always interesting to see the most vocal opinions of the South from people who have spent little or no time there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (Pee1E)

165 Clearly everything he knows about the South he learned from that great historical documentary, the Beverly Hillbillies.

The later work in Green Acres disproved much of what was asserted in the BHs.
Posted by: Archimedes

Don't forget about HeeHaw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (nHABa)

166 Here's a timely plot:

Your median professor sits so far left that AOC, Sanders, and Warren would count as moderates in any faculty lounge.

Faculty from 55 elite universities form one towering blue spike of ideology far out on the left, density exploding past 6, with virtually nothing on the conservative side.

This was built through decades of selective hiring, social enforcement, and the systematic purge of dissent.

And because they credential the people who run media, law, government, and tech, the monoculture leaks into every elite institution downstream.


https://tinyurl.com/4frdjzjm

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (Riz8t)

167 Fun Fact: Jethrine was just Jethroe in drag.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2026 12:55 PM (nDXEV)

168 Mutual Assured Destruction. Don't laugh. It worked.
Posted by: Ignoramus

It worked because the Soviets after Stalin died didn't eat their own dog food. They were fundamentally rational mafiosi. American governments weren't crazy either.
The real problem was people like Castro (when younger anyway) who did believe all that shit. People like that could do anything given command of nukes. Which is how the Missile Crisis happened.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 12:56 PM (gKWVE)

169 I would have used Cletus McCoy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2026 12:44 PM (u/oMr)

Wasn't Cletus on that Mountain Man show who built a wood burning truck, ate squirrel stew and bathed like once a month?

Loved that guy!

Posted by: Jeff Sessions, Alabama Hillbilly at July 11, 2026 12:56 PM (ftsic)

170 The later work in Green Acres disproved much of what was asserted in the BHs.

The Sarah Jessica Parker documentary series "Mr. Ed" was important too, I'm sure.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 12:56 PM (QZThv)

171 Destroy the institution.

Whack up the Smithsonian collection and *give the whole fucking thing away* to private institutions, free of charge, so the government gets nothing out of it, and close the whole thing down.

Show these people that we will rip their skinsuits off and burn them, and that demanding respect will get you worse than nothing - because that's what you turned the institution into.

We'd rather have no museum (or university, or whatever else) than have you in charge of it. De-Gramscification is going to require aggressive action.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2026 12:56 PM (BI5O2)

172 So much so, that the tip of the Washington Monument is a priceless five-pound piece that was used as an honorific. But then came relatively cheap hydroelectric power do the extraction.

We wouldn't have planes without the strength-to-weight ratio of aluminum, starting with the Wright Brothers engine block.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 12:01 PM (dtajH)

What made aluminum practical wasn't cheap hydro power per se, but the invention of an electrolytic refining process using molten cryolite as the electrolyte. That made the bulk production of aluminum practical. Cheap hydro power made it profitable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2026 12:58 PM (1z8ji)

173 see, what we are edging into is a mob to create an internet lynch mob against outrageous Lebanese Canadian Academic from an elite university because he said things that are insults to our good name and what we stand for - He is unacceptably arrogant and a shitposter, and such things make us thirst for vengeance.

Such mobs are useful for unifying groups, but they really suck at encouraging alternative solutions to problems, since a mob must have a single goal.
I think of Milo who was loved until he was hated for being exactly what he was when he was loved. This is the sort of thing that makes James Lindsay right, and I hate that arrogant MFr and I would love to prove him wrong. And the mobs prove Lindsay right time after time.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2026 12:58 PM (rbvCR)

174 If you're gonna drag Hee-Haw into it, we gotta mention hard candy on Grandma's coffee table while we watch Lawrence Welk on Sunday afternoons.
Then, Dance Fever with Denny Terrio.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2026 12:58 PM (nDXEV)

175 I think if McConnell was dead there'd be a bit more agitation from the governor here in KY. The process to replace him isn't in question, and Beshear hasn't the ability to fight it. Much.

He's made a bit of noise by asking McConnell (or his staff) to issue some sort of statement. That has been ignored so far.

But I would assume that if McConnell was dead, or not expected to resume his duties in the Senate, the process for replacing him would start. Keeping that on hold is a real dick move by McConnell's office and the GOP (assuming they know his status.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2026 12:58 PM (jehhT)

176 168 Mutual Assured Destruction. Don't laugh. It worked.
Posted by: Ignoramus

It worked because the Soviets
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are not suicidal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 12:59 PM (Pee1E)

177 It's a frog strangler out there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2026 12:59 PM (nHABa)

178 Saad is a good writer and thinker - with the “Roscoe Jethroe” he just bought into the default stereotype of all northerners and sadly most Jews, that anti-semites are going to redneck southerners. Probably wasn’t true in the 30’s when this took root, and certainly isn’t true now.

But old cultural stereotypes die hard.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 12:59 PM (VbqNm)

179 But I would assume that if McConnell was dead, or not expected to resume his duties in the Senate, the process for replacing him would start. Keeping that on hold is a real dick move by McConnell's office and the GOP

True to character, then.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 01:00 PM (Riz8t)

180 The real god metal for strong lightweight alloys is beryllium.
Shame it's toxic though.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2026 01:01 PM (gKWVE)

181 He is unacceptably arrogant and a shitposter, and such things make us thirst for vengeance.

Oh, is *that* why nobody reads Ace's content?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:01 PM (QZThv)

182 Goebbels committed suicide before being captured. Are you thinking of Goering?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:12 PM (Riz8t)

Both remained loyal to Hitler until the very end.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2026 01:02 PM (1z8ji)

183 Angela Davis is the most famous prison abolitionist of the last fifty years.

She built her name on one rule: no one should be caged for their beliefs.

But now, she's probably in a prison she'll never abolish.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2026 01:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

184 182 Goebbels committed suicide before being captured. Are you thinking of Goering?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:12 PM (Riz8t)

Both remained loyal to Hitler until the very end.


Mark Felton has an ongoing series on Himmler's attempts to weasel his way into power after Hitler's death. He was unhappy that Donitz had been tapped to lead, and was trying to find a way to put himself at the center of negotiations with the Allies. It didn't work.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 01:04 PM (Riz8t)

185 Mitch is asymptotically approaching room temperature, so, yes, stable.

Teenage Mutant Ninja McConnells
Teenage Mutant Ninja McConnells
Teenage Mutant Ninja McConnells
Heroes in a half-shell, turtle power!

Posted by: Leonardo McConnell at July 11, 2026 01:04 PM (ftsic)

186 "You see, Johnny (von Neumann) wasn't human. But after living with humans for so long he learned how to do a remarkable imitation of one."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2026 01:06 PM (XeU6L)

187 Saad is a good writer and thinker - with the “Roscoe Jethroe” he just bought into the default stereotype of all northerners and sadly most Jews, that anti-semites are going to redneck southerners. Probably wasn’t true in the 30’s when this took root, and certainly isn’t true now.

My read of what he said is exactly the opposite, that he thought it would be weird that a redneck hated Jews. Which has the benefit of fitting a lot better with how he actually speaks.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:06 PM (QZThv)

188 My read of what he said is exactly the opposite, that he thought it would be weird that a redneck hated Jews. Which has the benefit of fitting a lot better with how he actually speaks.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:06 PM (QZThv)

Ok I didn’t read this particular statement. I know I’ve read him before and he’s someone whose opinions I think are quite good.
I believe he coined the term “suicidal empathy” for how the left feels about most of the 3rd world.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 01:10 PM (VbqNm)

189 >>Saad is a good writer and thinker - with the “Roscoe Jethroe” he just bought into the default stereotype of all northerners and sadly most Jews, that anti-semites are going to redneck southerners. Probably wasn’t true in the 30’s when this took root, and certainly isn’t true now.

But old cultural stereotypes die hard.
- - - -

That's how I interpreted it. He needed a go-to stand-in for dumb American college student, and his "Roscoe Jethroe" was selected because everyone easily identifies the dumb Southern redneck stereotype.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 01:10 PM (X8xt3)

190 >>But I would assume that if McConnell was dead, or not expected to resume his duties in the Senate, the process for replacing him would start. Keeping that on hold is a real dick move by McConnell's office and the GOP (assuming they know his status.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Sounds typical and highly probable. They could have him on a machine keeping him alive. Yup.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:10 PM (Pee1E)

191 I've been working on "100 Americans Who Should Be Famous (But Aren't)"

von Neumann and Shannon get pushed under the rug in favor of gay Brit Alan Turing these days even though they're more foundational.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:10 PM (QZThv)

192 >>>Room temperature is stable, right?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

>I must confess, I've done a face plant before, but that was because it was pitch black, no lights, and I slipped in the dark and lost my balance.

Who's dressing Mitch in the morning, Dr. Jill?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 11, 2026 01:11 PM (KttFr)

193 Correia's first rule of internet argument: Internet arguing is a spectator sport, it is not to convince your opponent, it is to influence the spectators
Posted by: Kindltot

Of course.

This is the essence of *all* public discourse. Neither combatant is there to be convinced. At the end one will win and one will lose, based on the number of other people they can convince that their enemy is a stupid piece of shit who should be ignored at best, or hauled out and shot at worst.

It's not a thing where people put up a thesis and an antithesis, seeking for some synthesis. It's a war of words.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2026 01:12 PM (BI5O2)

194 Sounds typical and highly probable. They could have him on a machine keeping him alive. Yup.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:10 PM (Pee1E)

On loan from the McCain family.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2026 01:13 PM (EKbN/)

195 He needed a go-to stand-in for dumb American college student, and his "Roscoe Jethroe" was selected because everyone easily identifies the dumb Southern redneck stereotype.

Let's look at the actual quote:

Well, I defend liberal democracies; I'm Jewish and I have tons of family in Israel. By the way, your name is Roscoe Jethroe, you're from Arkansas. Why do you have a "From the river to the sea" tattooed on your forehead?

He wouldn't be asking "why do you have it?" if his point was that being Roscoe Jethroe automatically made you anti-Semitic. He'd say "Your name is Roscoe Jethroe, so of course you love Gaza", as we all do about trust-funder Democrats.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:13 PM (QZThv)

196 My read of what he said is exactly the opposite, that he thought it would be weird that a redneck hated Jews. Which has the benefit of fitting a lot better with how he actually speaks.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:06 PM (QZThv)

Exactly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2026 01:14 PM (1z8ji)

197 I love Jay and the Americans.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2026 01:15 PM (lCppi)

198 >> see, what we are edging into is a mob to create an internet lynch mob against outrageous Lebanese Canadian Academic from an elite university because he said things that are insults to our good name and what we stand for - He is unacceptably arrogant and a shitposter, and such things make us thirst for vengeance.


Oh, geez. I only mentioned that tweet because it caused a stir, and he is now leaving hostile Canada for America and he chose Mississippi. I do not want a mob, do not hate him, it's fine he is coming here, just got a chuckle that he now chooses to live amongst his "Roscoe Jethroe" types, some of whom he depicted as Jew-haters.

Never mind.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 01:16 PM (X8xt3)

199 Who's dressing Mitch in the morning, Dr. Jill?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Not Elaine.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:16 PM (Pee1E)

200
I would not want to get into a verbal battle with Saad, he would eat my lunch and feed me my shoes.
Posted by: Kindltot

This is how I feel about most of the Horde, you lot are very well practiced with jaw jaw. A good number of you are equally talented in war war as well.

I'll just sit over here and keep my pie hole shut so all y'all aren't certain how dumb I am.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2026 01:17 PM (QVmho)

201
she bought gasoline, returned to the bar, doused the man with it, and set him on fire.


The man suffered severe burns and died a few days later.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

=================

The reason I like stories like this is that the guy knew who killed him and why, and he had a couple days to think about it. None of this painless "He never knew what hit him."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2026 01:17 PM (mmrXZ)

202 Also on my list is Vannevar Bush. He ran our military research for WWII, starting with radar. He greenlit the Manhattan Project and was Oppenheimer's boss. He put even more money into the B-29.

Claude Shannon was his protege.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 01:17 PM (dtajH)

203 196 My read of what he said is exactly the opposite, that he thought it would be weird that a redneck hated Jews. Which has the benefit of fitting a lot better with how he actually speaks.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:06 PM (QZThv)

Exactly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Ultimate shit posting from a thought leader.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:18 PM (Pee1E)

204 My Mom's high school (Roosevelt in Seattle) in the 1940s not only taught Latin, but it had a Latin club, a mathematics club, a business club, and their school's newspaper had journalists who actually investigated and wrote stories, while their English classes taught grammar, diagraming sentences and reading the classics.
I think her high school diploma was worth more than my college degree.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2026 01:19 PM (lCppi)

205 Also on my list is Vannevar Bush. He ran our military research for WWII, starting with radar. He greenlit the Manhattan Project and was Oppenheimer's boss. He put even more money into the B-29.

Vannevar (what kind of a name is that?) is yuuuuuge. One of the smartest guys of all time. Shame what's happened to that family since.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:20 PM (QZThv)

206 Here's a timely plot:

Your median professor sits so far left that AOC, Sanders, and Warren would count as moderates in any faculty lounge.

Faculty from 55 elite universities form one towering blue spike of ideology far out on the left, density exploding past 6, with virtually nothing on the conservative side.

This was built through decades of selective hiring, social enforcement, and the systematic purge of dissent.

And because they credential the people who run media, law, government, and tech, the monoculture leaks into every elite institution downstream.

https://tinyurl.com/4frdjzjm
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (Riz8t)

That's Doctor Amy Bishop!
Capital Murder
Life without parole in Alabama's Julia Tutwiler Prison for Women

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 11, 2026 01:20 PM (wVcYX)

207 That's Doctor Amy Bishop!
Capital Murder
Life without parole in Alabama's Julia Tutwiler Prison for Women


I'm surprised Judge Kamemehama hasn't intervened yet.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2026 01:21 PM (QZThv)

208 Oh, geez. I only mentioned that tweet because it caused a stir, and he is now leaving hostile Canada for America and he chose Mississippi. I do not want a mob, do not hate him, it's fine he is coming here, just got a chuckle that he now chooses to live amongst his "Roscoe Jethroe" types, some of whom he depicted as Jew-haters.

Never mind.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 01:16 PM (X8xt3)

You just don't get it. "Roscoe Jethro" is not a Jew Hater because he is "Rosco Jethro". He is a Jew Hater because he has a Pali slogan tattooed on his face. He's not a "typical" redneck; he's a deranged Leftist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2026 01:21 PM (1z8ji)

209 Consider the list of Bell Labs alumni:

https://shorturl.at/VJ2P7

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2026 01:23 PM (XeU6L)

210 Speaking of Mrs. McConnell... was she in China before or after he had his "falling out" episode? I mean, did she take off knowing Mitch was messed up or was she already in China when his medical episode hit?

There was speculation both ways and I'm too lazy to go looking.

Either way, it's an odd set of circumstances. Maybe.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2026 01:23 PM (jehhT)

211 Oh, Roosevelt also had home economics, which required preparing actual budgets, chemistry, and music. It's a little eerie to look through her annuals - By her senior year there were very few young men left in her class. And the Japanese were gone, too.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2026 01:25 PM (lCppi)

212 Clearly everything he knows about the South he learned from that great historical documentary, the Beverly Hillbillies.

The later work in Green Acres disproved much of what was asserted in the BHs.
Posted by: Archimedes

Don't forget about HeeHaw.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2026 12:54 PM (nHABa)

The Dukes of Hazzard gotta figure in there somewhere.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 11, 2026 01:25 PM (wVcYX)

213 Post WWII, Vannevar wrote an article "How we may think" published in a popular magazine that prefigured PCs and the internet. He was interested in expanding the limits of the human brain, posting recipes and porn optional.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2026 01:26 PM (dtajH)

214 It was on X a few years back
https://tinyurl.com/4vs6ut3t

Posted by: Lizzy

Thanks Lizzie, I appreciate it

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 01:29 PM (7gFa4)

215 Clarifying

That's Amy Bishop PHD!
Capital Murder
Life without parole in Alabama's Julia Tutwiler Prison for Women

Posted by: Count de Monet

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:33 PM (Pee1E)

216 Nood sprinklers

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2026 01:35 PM (WL2lA)

217 I am also amused at how he misspelled both Rosco (e) and Jethro (e)?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2026 01:35 PM (mP0Kj)

218 wonder if the homo cruise in the Med. will end up like the covid cruise a few years ago, wandering from port to port and always turned away.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2026 12:17 PM (mDji4)


Maybe not until they try to dock in Greece? I’d suggest trying the back door…..

Posted by: NC Ref at July 11, 2026 01:37 PM (Yyro6)

219 I am also amused at how he misspelled both Rosco (e) and Jethro (e)?
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2026 01:35 PM (mP0Kj)

Er, Roscoe is correct.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2026 01:37 PM (1Ff7Z)

220 Never mind.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2026 01:16 PM (X8xt3)

You just don't get it. "Roscoe Jethro" is not a Jew Hater because he is "Rosco Jethro". He is a Jew Hater because he has a Pali slogan tattooed on his face. He's not a "typical" redneck; he's a deranged Leftist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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It's a slander.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:39 PM (Pee1E)

221 Maybe not until they try to dock in Greece? I’d suggest trying the back door…..
Posted by: NC Ref at July 11, 2026 01:37 PM (Yyro6)

lol!

Ironically the country that would give them the biggest welcome is probably the one they hate most - Israel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2026 01:40 PM (VbqNm)

222 Fri, July 10, 2026 at 11:28 AM CDT
Former U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao returned to the United States from China this week...

Chao's staff did not indicate whether she'd been in contact with McConnell since returning home...

Also amid the swirling news cycle, the Kentucky senator's youngest daughter, Porter McConnell, deleted her social media account on X, according to the Independent.
_ USA TODAY

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 01:51 PM (Pee1E)

223 @Dave_in_Fla
Jun 18
I've been thinking about the rape gang situation in the UK.
...
There is a reason that the immigrants act like a conquering horde who can take whatever liberties they wish with the daughters of British. Because by any actual measure, they are.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 02:25 PM (Pee1E)

224 DogeDesigner@cb_doge – 8h

Elon Musk warned the world about Scam Altman.

Now everyone is finding out why.
--
Elon Musk@elonmusk - 7h
He takes scamming to a whole new level
--
Sam Altman@sama - 1h
homeboy you're the one sellling public market investors on short-term space datacenters

Jul 11, 2026 · 4:36 PM UTC

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2026 02:43 PM (Pee1E)

225 Long dead thread, but read a children's novel from the '40s in which a 3rd grader was sighing over her French homework and a 6th grader was sighing over her Latin homework.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 11, 2026 03:35 PM (NcvvS)

226 Always wondered why this thread doesn't go on for other stuff

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2026 03:56 PM (Ia/+0)

227 Always wondered why this thread doesn't go on for other stuff

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2026 03:56 PM (Ia/+0)

Its one of those mysteries of the universe. The upside is I get shit done on saturday.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2026 04:00 PM (S41Gd)

228 I usually use the time to read, had to go to work killed that idea

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2026 04:58 PM (Ia/+0)

229 Jayapal and the AntiAmericans

BTW Steely Dan's first job was songwriting for Jay and the Americans

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at July 11, 2026 11:56 PM (4c2RO)

230 69 Anyone who says World Cup is boring should watch highlights from the England Mexico game. Or Argentina/Cape Verde. Belgium/Senegal, US/Turkey. There have been so many amazing games throughout the tournament.

The stereotype 0-0 game pretty much has been non-existent.

Norway England today should be a great game.
Posted by: Life Hacks at July 11, 2026 12:04 PM (yzP4d)

Soccer still sucks. And is boring.

I don’t GAF if 51 million people saw the USA-Belgium game either, I was not one of them.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2026 01:38 AM (pKv0r)

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