Supreme Court Rules That the Chief Executive Does In Fact Have the Power to Fire His Own Executive Branch Employees

Liberal congresses passed laws to establish so-called "independent agencies," which are executive branch agencies intended to be independent from the very executive they're part of.

This is plainly unconstitutional. The Constitution establishes that there is an Executive branch headed by a Chief Executive, the president, who is vested with all of the power of the executive branch of government. Congress may not set up fakey-fake "independent" agencies which are part of the Executive and yet not part of the Executive.

Today, an hour ago, the Supreme Court re-introduced the Constitution into constitutional law about firing the heads of "independent" agencies.

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NEWS: Supreme Court overrules a 90-year-old precedent and frees the president to fire independent agency heads
The Supreme Court ruled today that President Trump can remove Federal Trade Commission members at will, and in doing so it overruled Humphrey's Executor, the 1935 decision that has protected independent agencies for nine decades. The case is Trump v. Slaughter, and it reshapes the federal bureaucracy.
The fight began when Trump fired the FTC's two Democratic commissioners, Rebecca Slaughter and Alvaro Bedoya, early in his second term. He did not claim cause. He simply said their service no longer fit his administration's priorities. Federal law says FTC commissioners can be removed only for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance. Slaughter sued to get her job back and won below.
The Court reversed. Chief Justice Roberts, writing for the majority, said the Constitution vests executive power in one president who must be able to remove the officers who wield that power on his behalf. Because the FTC clearly exercises executive power, he wrote, its commissioners answer to the president. Humphrey's Executor, he said, has long been a result in search of a rationale, and the Court let it go.
The vote was 6 to 3. Roberts was joined by Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett. Sotomayor dissented, joined by Kagan and Jackson.

The Federal Reserve, however, keeps its unconstitutional independence from the Executive:

It's worth noting alongside the Cook decision handed down the same day. The Court protected the Federal Reserve's independence there while stripping it from the FTC here, drawing an explicit line around the central bank as a historical exception. So independent agencies lose their shield, but the Fed keeps its own.

In the typical way, Roberts and Coney Barret sided with the liberals in holding, 5-4, that the "Election Day" mentioned in the Constitution doesn't actually mean Election Day at all and that ballots can be counted no matter how long after Election Day they're received.

They do have be postmarked by Election day, though.

And no one could possibly fake a mail stamp.

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@scotus_wire
🚨 In a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that federal law does not require mail-in ballots to be received by Election Day, holding that states may count ballots postmarked by Election Day but received afterward if state law allows it.

Full decision, by Barrett (of course), here.

BREAKING: Supreme Court rules 5-4 that federal law does NOT require mail-in ballots to be received by Election Day

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined the court’s three liberal justices pic.twitter.com/ynr2E9X9sX
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) June 29, 2026

Mail-ins arriving before Election Day:
🔵 Bass: 38.1%
🔴 Pratt: 27.9%
🔵 Raman: 20%

Mail-ins arriving after Election Day:
🔵 Raman: 37% (+17% surge)
🔵 Bass: 34.9% (-3% drop)
🔴 Pratt: 19% (-9% drop)

Who are we kidding here? This is fraud.
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) June 7, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:16 PM

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1 But not the Fed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:16 PM (ExV1e)

2 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 12:17 PM (bFu5X)

3 I haz summoned.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:17 PM (ExV1e)

4 Disappointing

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:17 PM (kgetQ)

5 Sad that we have to have a court case over this.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 29, 2026 12:17 PM (N1tpc)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 29, 2026 12:18 PM (2YhKe)

7 National elections should be nationally governed. Not by individual states.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 29, 2026 12:18 PM (jehhT)

8 Way to go Amy Blow Me Barrett.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:18 PM (wn0/z)

9 again, I feel like the USSC was trying to moderate to retain "gravitas" with these rulings.

again, it ain't gonna work.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

10 I really thought the late ballot case would go Trump's way... I was wrong....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (kgetQ)

11 Or the Postmaster General

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (NFX2v)

12 my God I just realized there are FOUR females on the court

lol oh dear

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

13 hmm maybe five females let's take a look under johnny's robes

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (j+aD2)

14 12 my God I just realized there are FOUR females on the court

lol oh dear
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

Four stupid Females...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (kgetQ)

15 my God I just realized there are FOUR females on the court

Personally I count Roberts...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (OUMaO)

16 The constitution states there are three branches of government. If the executive, nor Congress has the power to fire the board members- which branch do they belong to?

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (wn0/z)

17 It should be simple for the post office to document all ballots postmarked by COB on election day, and then to auto-reject any sent after and return to sender with the date of the postmark (aka, too late) circled. If someone had the will to enforce this...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (tOcjL)

18 Let us all kneel down and prostrate ourselves to the almighty USPS postmark.

Boy, talk about going postal.

Posted by: WisRich at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (G0vdT)

19 Who are we kidding here? This is fraud.

But it is up to the beneficiaries of the fraud to end the fraud. -- SCOTUS

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (ExV1e)

20 Sigh, no limit at all on time to count?, make it 4 months, who cares? It's only elections for government. I guess the GOP better have pre-marked and dated car trunk ballots that they can just keep turning in until they win. That's how it usually goes for the other side.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (n5tGW)

21 Roberts voted with Barrett so she could hide under his skirt.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (wn0/z)

22 17 It should be simple for the post office to document all ballots postmarked by COB on election day, and then to auto-reject any sent after and return to sender with the date of the postmark (aka, too late) circled. If someone had the will to enforce this...

yeah I mean this isn't impossible to do, and there's still hope here. and they did somewhat restrict the timeframe.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (j+aD2)

23 If someone had the will to enforce this...

That was the difference between 2020 and 2024: the RNC had the will to enforce things in 2024.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (QZThv)

24 14 12 my God I just realized there are FOUR females on the court

lol oh dear
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

Four stupid Females...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM (kgetQ)

Ahem...Kavanaugh saved the Fed, not ACB...his decision has way less backing than hers...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (tOcjL)

25 20 Sigh, no limit at all on time to count?, make it 4 months, who cares? It's only elections for government. I guess the GOP better have pre-marked and dated car trunk ballots that they can just keep turning in until they win. That's how it usually goes for the other side.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 12:21 PM (n5tGW)

I believe they are still counting here in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (kgetQ)

26
Humphrey's Executor is overturned. Let's celebrate.

As for the mail-in voting decision, it seems halfway reasonable to me, although I'll have to read some content (like the decision). But getting your ballot in the mail and postmarked on/by Election Day seems like a sufficient effort if you're in a stupid jurisdiction that allows mail-in voting to begin with.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (XJ22o)

27 Ahem...Kavanaugh saved the Fed, not ACB...his decision has way less backing than hers...

yep

really strange

but I think they cumulatively decided to "moderate" and picked people to go each way.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (j+aD2)

28 OT, but saw for our first time a guy eating out of a dumpster here in our ETEX town.

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (LHPAg)

29 When the issue is a liberal one like gay marriage scotus will happily create new laws.

When the issue is a. Conservative one like voter integrity, scotus says Congress must pass the law. Knowing full well Congress will never pass such a law.

It’s a neat trick.

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (v2lMK)

30 Four stupid Females...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:20 PM

4 Non Blondes >= Four Stupid Females.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (bFu5X)

31 Read Alito’s dissent in Watson. He makes the cogent argument that Election Day means Election Day and by allowing the receipt of ballots after that day, you have changed Election Day.

This really isn’t that hard. It’s axiomatic.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (wn0/z)

32 When the issue is a liberal one like gay marriage scotus will happily create new laws.

When the issue is a. Conservative one like voter integrity, scotus says Congress must pass the law. Knowing full well Congress will never pass such a law.

It’s a neat trick.
Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (v2lMK)

THIS

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (N1tpc)

33 Ahem...Kavanaugh saved the Fed, not ACB...his decision has way less backing than hers...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (tOcjL)

The Fed thing is pretty meaningless compared to the voting case...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (kgetQ)

34 The "Federal" "Reserve" "Bank" is not federal, it has no reserves and is not a bank. It is a squalling abomination that should have been strangled in its crib.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (V362x)

35 No more chicks on the bench

Posted by: you know the meme at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (eK+SZ)

36 Robert's decision on the FED (he wrote both executive appointment decisions, probably deliberately) tries to distinguish the FED from all other agencies because it is a public/private partnership, and because even the First National Bank was shielded from politics by Hamilton's design. I don't know enough about history to comment on the latter assertion.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (b4kuR)

37 Humphrey's Executor is overturned. Let's celebrate.

agree Morticia

I am feeling better reading a bit more into the ballot ruling. it's not completely horrendous.

maybe this points to a "split the baby" ruling coming up ... which I'm happy with any movement towards wisdom with that!

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (j+aD2)

38 Gasoline at my local HEB has dropped below $3.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (ExV1e)

39 I’m absolutely positive that James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and the gang all definitely intended that we be ruled over by 9 beneficent all-wise high IQ uber-mensches in black robes. That is exactly why they fought the revolution… if you look closely it’s written between the lines in the Declaration of Independence…

God am I sick of having to wait with bated breath for the word from on high to find out what the constitution actually says…. Never mind my lying eyes when I read it…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (LLX3Z)

40 33 Ahem...Kavanaugh saved the Fed, not ACB...his decision has way less backing than hers...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 12:22 PM (tOcjL)

The Fed thing is pretty meaningless compared to the voting case...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (kgetQ)

I beg to differ - the Fed can literally swing elections all by themselves with their decisions...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (tOcjL)

41
4 Non Blondes >= Four Stupid Females.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (bFu5X)

There is a Queensrÿche lyric for this comparison.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (2YhKe)

42 31 Read Alito’s dissent in Watson. He makes the cogent argument that Election Day means Election Day and by allowing the receipt of ballots after that day, you have changed Election Day.

This really isn’t that hard. It’s axiomatic.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (wn0/z)
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And he addresses the issue of fraud and confidence in our elections.

Posted by: WisRich at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (G0vdT)

43 In the typical way, Roberts and Coney Barret sided with the liberals in holding, 5-4, that the "Election Day" mentioned in the Constitution doesn't actually mean Election Day at all and that ballots can be counted no matter how long after Election Day they're received.

==

Reason 10005 to pass the Save Act.

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 12:25 PM (GD0B3)

44 I am feeling better reading a bit more into the ballot ruling. it's not completely horrendous.

maybe this points to a "split the baby" ruling coming up ... which I'm happy with any movement towards wisdom with that!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM

And it all but maps out the solution. It just relies on a very unreliable, yet what should be the most powerful, segment of our government. You know, those people we send to DC to represent us?

Let me know when you stop laughing. 😆

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (OoFl2)

45
This is plainly unconstitutional. The Constitution establishes that there is an Executive branch headed by a Chief Executive, the president, who is vested with all of the power of the executive branch of government.

____________

In the Catholic Church, all clerics and religious belong somewhere in the hierarchy and all ultimately reporting to the Pope. There aren't any independent priests or autocephalic orders.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (O0L8i)

46 We had to go to the court for them to say the power given to the executive branch under the constitution is indeed that branches power, and ergo the executive can appoint the personnel he picks to exercise that power.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (wn0/z)

47 12 my God I just realized there are FOUR females on the court

lol oh dear
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 12:19 PM (j+aD2)

I could mention no Evangelicals but I won’t. ‘Twould be unseemly, and some wag would point out that Jumanji is ostensibly Bapttist ( maybe?)

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (Gqar8)

48 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (sgkY8)

49 Robert's decision on the FED (he wrote both executive appointment decisions, probably deliberately) tries to distinguish the FED from all other agencies because it is a public/private partnership, and because even the First National Bank was shielded from politics by Hamilton's design. I don't know enough about history to comment on the latter assertion.
Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (b4kuR)

Either:

The Fed is a public institution and, therefore, belongs to one of the three defined branches. So, which?

Or...

The Fed is a private institution so why does the President nominate and the Senate approve members? And why does it have control over our currency?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:27 PM (ExV1e)

50
I could mention no Evangelicals but I won’t. ‘Twould be unseemly, and some wag would point out that Jumanji is ostensibly Bapttist ( maybe?)
Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (Gqar

The "I don't know what a woman is" branch of the Baptist Church

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:27 PM (kgetQ)

51 Supreme Court Rules That the Chief Executive Does In Fact Have the Power to Fire His Own Executive Branch Employees
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Huh. Could have sworn that was determined when the Tenure in Office Act was overturned. Guess it wasn't overturned hard enough.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 29, 2026 12:28 PM (amcLV)

52 BUT WAIT!!!
A tyrannical judge said Trump has to unfire FIRED Lisa Cook, Sleepy Joe hired.

So BACK TO COURT YOU GO TRUMP.

*****
As an aside im sick of the bastard court system being used as a catspaw for Trump's enemies.
Until CONGRESS IMPEACHES JUDGES...this will not stop.

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:28 PM (zMILc)

53 >> And he addresses the issue of fraud and confidence in our elections.

Unlike Congress and that gimp, Thune.

And btw we shouldn’t give Johnson a pass either.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:28 PM (wn0/z)

54 There is a Queensrÿche lyric for this comparison.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (2YhKe)

You, of all people, should know that THERE ARE NO Queensrÿche lyrics.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (ExV1e)

55 They do have be postmarked by Election day, though.
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Which does or does not mean something

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (9wqpF)

56 Hadn't they already said this?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (mPXxA)

57 The Deep State gets to keep its thumb in monetary policy and federal elections.

Posted by: No Name Today at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (8mulE)

58 55 They do have be postmarked by Election day, though.
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Which does or does not mean something
Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (9wqpF)

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (kgetQ)

59 Either:

The Fed is a public institution and, therefore, belongs to one of the three defined branches. So, which?

Or...

The Fed is a private institution so why does the President nominate and the Senate approve members? And why does it have control over our currency?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:27 PM (ExV1e)

I suspect this is why Robert's opinion leans so much on "the tradition of central banking" in this country. The thing is plainly monstrous as designed, but the common view is that such a bank is needed ("independent central banks" are common in a lot of countries). The typical textbook discussion of the 1830s is that Jackson killing the Second Bank was an economic disaster. So there's institutional impetus to find some way to keep the FED alive in its current form. Distinguishing it from all other 'independent agencies' is actually an improvement from the situation before today.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:30 PM (b4kuR)

60 Gasoline at my local HEB has dropped below $3.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.

Posted by: Tuna at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (lJ0H4)

61 It will get them to mail faster, but still will be lots of fake people

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (sgkY8)

62 54 There is a Queensrÿche lyric for this comparison.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 29, 2026 12:24 PM (2YhKe)

You, of all people, should know that THERE ARE NO Queensrÿche lyrics.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (ExV1e)

And we have always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (mPXxA)

63 Bolton getting his just desert. Nothing else can ruin my day.

Posted by: 13times at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (6iKlf)

64 For The Paolo, every day is…

…Oh, wait. You said “Election Day.”

Never mind.

Posted by: Bulg at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (77rzZ)

65
If I mail my taxes due to the IRS on Apr 15 and the check gets there 5 days later do they penalize me?

Oh they do?

Just like every company that takes payment by mail?

Why its almost like you are expected to get things in by the date they are due...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (sKqQm)

66
I could mention no Evangelicals but I won’t. ‘Twould be unseemly, and some wag would point out that Jumanji is ostensibly Bapttist ( maybe?)
Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 12:26 PM (Gqar

Wait, what? Which evangelical would you like to remove?

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (OoFl2)

67 60 Gasoline at my local HEB has dropped below $3.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.
Posted by: Tuna at June 29, 2026 12:31 PM (lJ0H4)

Ah the old Iranians shot off bottle rockets in Hormuz Hike.

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (Gqar8)

68
Read Alito’s dissent in Watson. He makes the cogent argument that Election Day means Election Day and by allowing the receipt of ballots after that day, you have changed Election Day.

This really isn’t that hard. It’s axiomatic.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM (wn0/z)

One thing that annoys the fuck out of me is how the Donk commie cocksuckers in the Fed bureaucracy treat the overseas military absentee ballots, holding them hostage. "Give us what we want or we'll kill 10,000 military ballots every hour."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (hpF/D)

69 58 55 They do have be postmarked by Election day, though.
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Which does or does not mean something
Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 12:29 PM (9wqpF)

It should mean something in a place like MS and any other state that takes efforts to enforce their own election laws. In places that don't, this will be ignored as much as possible.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (b4kuR)

70 Starship Trooper veterans are the only people who are full citizens and, therefore, have the right

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (LHPAg)

71 Im opening up a business:

POSTMARKS R US

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (zMILc)

72 22 17 It should be simple for the post office to document all ballots postmarked by COB on election day, and then to auto-reject any sent after and return to sender with the date of the postmark (aka, too late) circled. If someone had the will to enforce this...

Posted by: Black Orchid
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If Trump's executive order on post office ballots goes through, then it becomes a lot more difficult to insert ballots as they will all have been tracked up to Election day.

But this was another crappy 'moderate' decision rather than a bright line. Favored by weak kneed justices. Bad decision with little justification for it textually in the Constitution. Scotus essentially punted to Congress who can make such laws and should.

Ditto on the Federal Reserve. There is no consistent rationale by Justices like ACB and Roberts in their decisions--if the President is head of the Executive Branch, that will include the Federal Reserve--period. But so far the Court did not rule on the merits of the case (as to whether she actually gave 'cause' that got her fired by Trump). Kicked back to district court for interpretation and ruling.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:32 PM (E4rtv)

73 The focus on when mail-in ballots are received is misplaced. The issue is the validity of unrestricted mail-in voting to begin with.

Posted by: Halfhand at June 29, 2026 12:33 PM (9MUFz)

74 There aren't any independent priests or autocephalic orders.
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My little head is autocephalic.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 29, 2026 12:33 PM (oishd)

75 I'm saving up my Huge Disappointment Reserves for when birthright citizenship drops.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (qBdHI)

76 Starship Trooper veterans are the only people who are full citizens and, therefore, have the right

The left calls this fascism consistently which is comical.

Representative government with a restricted franchise is not fascism.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

77 Betcha Thune has a dog costume.

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (zMILc)

78 Congress could easily fix the "election day" issue. But it won't. Because neither side really cares about secure elections. They all have their own fraud game going on. Ditto in the states. And not just blue states.

The late-arriving ballot case arose out of ... Mississippi. Yes, that Mississippi. One of the reddest states in the country. But MS counts ballots arriving five business days after election day. Five. Fucking. Business. Days. So ballots can show up almost a full calendar week later, and still be counted. In the reddest of red states.

If we can't get bright red states to get their shit together and not allow obviously-fraudulent late-arriving fake ballots, then we have little hope on this issue at all.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

79 I've not read the decision about the mail-in ballot deadline, just the narrative in the MSM. It does seem that the Court said that current law gives the power to regulate elections to the state and federal legislatures. Which means the Save America Act is more important than ever.

Posted by: mrp at June 29, 2026 12:35 PM (rj6Yv)

80 Afternoon Ace.
The Cook case was sent back to develop the record on why she was fired from the Fed . Not really a loss just a kind of do over.
If after the development of the record it goes back to the SC it would be a great argument to say the Fed is in fact an executive branch entity. The "quasi-independent" crap could go bye-bye

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 12:35 PM (f6yx7)

81 >>>If I mail my taxes due to the IRS on Apr 15 and the check gets there 5 days later do they penalize me?

Nope. As long as the return is postmarked on time, it is considered on time.

Of course, it is rather unlikely that someone with access to a postmark machine is going to back postmark a late return on your behalf.

Posted by: No Name Today at June 29, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)

82 75 I'm saving up my Huge Disappointment Reserves for when birthright citizenship drops.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (qBdHI)

I never thought that that one has a chance.. I was "surprised" by the ballot ruling.... The arguments seemed to be leaning the other way.. I was wrong...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:35 PM (kgetQ)

83 We lose all the big cases at scouts and win the meh ones. It’s like yeah ok it’s good that Trump can fire the assistant to the deputy under secretary of some agency. But relative to democrats allowed to steal elections it’s meaningless.

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:35 PM (v2lMK)

84 Busted :

"BREAKING: A federal grand jury is investigating China-based tech mogul Neville Roy Singham for alleged financial crimes, reports @FoxNews. "

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 12:36 PM (GD0B3)

85 How many sweepstakes have a "turn in your ticket by midnight?" on such and such date?

When's your mortgage due? Car payment? Credit Card bill? Property taxes, Federal taxes?

*shrugs* It's not like people can't do this one simple thing. Or face the consequences of not. Like your vote not counting.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 29, 2026 12:37 PM (jehhT)

86 And by the way, Humphrey's Executor is an example of a shitty unprincipled decision as it severely limited the Myers v US decision that killed such laws as the Tenure in Office Act (which caused Andrew Johnson's impeachment). Humphrey's Executor and the later Weiner v. US presupposed that bureaucrats could be insulated from firing if they had quasi legislative or quasi judicial roles, but not policymaking nor executive roles.

Purely bullshit speculation from the Hughes court that wanted to put the brakes on FDR that Congress in granting the executive these powers could forestall the president getting rid of past appointees that were preventing the executive from being chief executive. Purely modern drivel invention that reflected the whole Civil Service ethos of dedicated bureaucrats who faithfully only implemented policy and not make it.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:37 PM (E4rtv)

87 84 Busted :

"BREAKING: A federal grand jury is investigating China-based tech mogul Neville Roy Singham for alleged financial crimes, reports @FoxNews. "

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 12:36 PM (GD0B3)

That would be good news indeed...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:37 PM (kgetQ)

88 >>>>Reason 10005 to pass the Save Act.

*laughs in uniparty*

Posted by: John Thune at June 29, 2026 12:37 PM (sCxmP)

89 It’s like yeah ok it’s good that Trump can fire the assistant to the deputy under secretary of some agency.

Are you at all familiar with the Deep State? It is *exactly* the assistants to deputies.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (QZThv)

90 Liberals need to rethink how administrative state works in light of this ruling. Trump now has free reign to reshape huge parts of federal law. That cannot be sustainable.

This court needs a government to openly mock their terrible decisions and then ignore them along the lines of what they have already ruled on. And if they do try to backtrack then they should be declared incompetent.

Trump can control every agency but the federal bank because the court must protect business above all else. I hate right now so much...

I still don't understand how the powers delegated by Congress to these independent agencies aren't contingent on those agencies being independent. This feels like the equivalent of a judicial line item veto that inherently creates a scenario starkly at contrast to what Congress intended.

How thoughtful can the concurrence be if it recognizes the hand grenade this opinion represents but decides to pull the pin and toss it anyway?

This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (36xPs)

91 The likely DEM nominee for the open Senate seat in MI, al-Sayed, is the scariest & most despicable VIABLE candidate for major office I've ever seen.

He's like a horror show nightmare. I could describe his issue positions (empty the prisons; he supports Hamas) in greater detail, but I'm sure you'll be gettin' the idea.

Posted by: mnw at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (RCjYY)

92
This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (36xPs)

LOL... And they weren't before ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (kgetQ)

93 We will get bent over by SCOTUS on birthright citizenship. Then they will run away for the summer and hope we forget that, and the fact they ignored all the 2A ban cases while they fist bump each other over a glass of Chardonnay.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (wn0/z)

94 This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.

Welcome to the Obama and Biden years.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (sKqQm)

95 Do any of you remember what HB1 was, the very first bill the Democrats introduced when the took Congress in 2018?

It was a bill to mandate all states allow no-excuse absentee ballots.

All elections were going to become mail only.
Every state. Every election.
All determined by mail.

There are almost 31,000 post offices in the United States.
31,000 locations with a post mark machine.
The highest volume locations buried in deep blue cities of deep blue states.

But sure, the High, Holy, Sacrosanct Post Mark will ward off fraud ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (3cUTc)

96 BREAKING: A federal grand jury is investigating China-based tech mogul Neville Roy Singham for alleged financial crimes, reports @FoxNews.

A new corollary to "Democrat women think all men are terrible because they only know Democrat men": Democrats think all billionaires are corrupt because all of theirs are.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (QZThv)

97 >>Of course, it is rather unlikely that someone with access to a postmark machine is going to back postmark a late return on your behalf.

Hmm, my cousin in the USPS probab (OOPS! said too much!).

Posted by: Nazdar at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (NcvvS)

98 If after the development of the record it goes back to the SC it would be a great argument to say the Fed is in fact an executive branch entity. The "quasi-independent" crap could go bye-bye
Posted by: Smell the Glove

In a sense, the Cook decision required the district court to revisit its injunction against the firing due to the new Slaughter precedent and whether the facts in the case did in fact warrant Cook's firing for 'cause'. As opposed to the case in Slaughter, Cook was being fired for mortgage fraud plus dishonesty in the ancillary matters like insurance, property taxes, etc,that would seem to be a disqualifier as a top regulator of federal banks.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (E4rtv)

99 The likely DEM nominee for the open Senate seat in MI, al-Sayed, is the scariest & most despicable VIABLE candidate for major office I've ever seen.

They are running a NAZI in Maine so...this makes sense

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:40 PM (sKqQm)

100 39 God am I sick of having to wait with bated breath for the word from on high to find out what the constitution actually says…. Never mind my lying eyes when I read it…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Marbury v. Madison was an abomination.

Posted by: Auspex at June 29, 2026 12:40 PM (Y8DZL)

101
BUT WAIT!!!
A tyrannical judge said Trump has to unfire FIRED Lisa Cook, Sleepy Joe hired.

So BACK TO COURT YOU GO TRUMP.

No one said she has to go back to the same exact office, the same exact job. I understand that Thule Air Force Base has a shortage of secretarial staff. She'll be the highest-paid secretary (okay, 'office manager') in Federal service.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2026 12:40 PM (hpF/D)

102 97 >>Of course, it is rather unlikely that someone with access to a postmark machine is going to back postmark a late return on your behalf.

Hmm, my cousin in the USPS probab (OOPS! said too much!).
Posted by: Nazdar

Trump's executive order makes that risky if that remains in force. The ballots will be imaged and tracked as to entry and delivery. If that holds, the Dems will have to resort to direct ballot stuffing through lock boxes, etc. Which is also more obvious.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:41 PM (E4rtv)

103 A new corollary to "Democrat women think all men are terrible because they only know Democrat men": Democrats think all billionaires are corrupt because all of theirs are.

Kamala Harris was Harvey Weinstein's protector the whole time she was CA AG and no leftist women cared in the least...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

104
Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.
Posted by: Tuna

It's a crap shoot when to buy gasoline.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 29, 2026 12:41 PM (Cqx++)

105 >> This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability

The government was always meant to change with the president- no matter which party. This idea that bureaucrats were entitled to office no matter who won is what created the deep state and generations of agencies that existed outside the constitution and as a power unto themselves. They didn’t seek “continuity of government”. They sought continuity of their own power.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 29, 2026 12:41 PM (wn0/z)

106
No one said she has to go back to the same exact office, the same exact job. I understand that Thule Air Force Base has a shortage of secretarial staff. She'll be the highest-paid secretary (okay, 'office manager') in Federal service.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2026 12:40 PM (hpF/D)

I was wondering also if that means she would return to the same job.... Maybe latrine duty instead ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:41 PM (kgetQ)

107 Try mailing a check for your mortgage on the day it’s due. And then when it gets there 3 days later and you are assessed a late fee, call up and say hey man it was mailed on time. Tell them Amy Comey Day OConnor and John Roberts said it counts as being on time.

See how far that gets you.

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:42 PM (v2lMK)

108 >>This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.

LMAO.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 29, 2026 12:42 PM (NcvvS)

109 It's neat how we have a conservative Supreme Court.

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 12:42 PM (ZxPkt)

110 From the "Is this for real?" files.

DM Headline:

"Bad mannered groomsman on the run for shooting two people at wedding after he was confronted for eating meatballs with his HANDS."

Posted by: WisRich at June 29, 2026 12:42 PM (G0vdT)

111 Supreme Court: Woman Rules It's OK to be Late

Posted by: Babylon Bee at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (sCxmP)

112 The late-arriving ballot case arose out of ... Mississippi. Yes, that Mississippi. One of the reddest states in the country. But MS counts ballots arriving five business days after election day. Five. Fucking. Business. Days. So ballots can show up almost a full calendar week later, and still be counted. In the reddest of red states.

If we can't get bright red states to get their shit together and not allow obviously-fraudulent late-arriving fake ballots, then we have little hope on this issue at all.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

There was a reason for it, though, and if you have been to rural Mississippi, you can suss out the logic. By the way, Mr. NYC, Esquire, in both Al and MS there are mail routes that can only be accessed by boat. I live quite near one of these towns. Your mailbox is on your pier. Next to the alligator. I think the point was to ensure people like this aren’t disenfranchised.

That said, the post mark thing is a little narrowing of this law. The rest of the fix is in the hands of our congresscritters.

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (OoFl2)

113 Roberts "if anything more is left of Humphrey's, the court overrules it".
At least he did that correctly

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (f6yx7)

114 Thule Air Force Base has a shortage of secretarial staff.
It's now known as Pituffik Space Base. Snappier uniform, too.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (zdLoL)

115 Hey guys, they didn't start using Postal Marks until 1847.

So, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sending in my mail-in ballot for George Washington. I want to be part of history. I might toss one in for Jefferson and Madison while I'm at it.

Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (dIske)

116 and in lighter news, headline from the NY Post:

NJ middle school yearbook recalled after Hitler photo published among student baby pics

Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (rbvCR)

117 There are almost 31,000 post offices in the United States.
31,000 locations with a post mark machine.
The highest volume locations buried in deep blue cities of deep blue states.

But sure, the High, Holy, Sacrosanct Post Mark will ward off fraud ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 29, 2026 12:39 PM (3cUTc)
________

There are probably 100s of thousands of private mail-meter machines in the country. Many businesses that send out a lot of mail will have them. It's basically a private mail meter that has it's own postmark. Easy to abuse.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

118 This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (36xPs)

Going back to the spoils system represents a HUGE problem for the left.

Right now, this stand thusly:

Democrats win - Dems in charge through their elected candidates.
Republicans win - Dems in charge through their hold on the Deep State.

Under the spoils system, Republicans would at least be in charge some of the time, and they can't abide that.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (xA5g+)

119 LA had a naked bike ride. A weirdo on a scooter decided to punish the exhibitionists by shooting them with a bb gun.

http://tiny.cc/t0u5101

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 12:45 PM (mkw2N)

120 115 Hey guys, they didn't start using Postal Marks until 1847.

So, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sending in my mail-in ballot for George Washington. I want to be part of history. I might toss one in for Jefferson and Madison while I'm at it.
Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (dIske)

Man, that's rookie thinking. I think we should all get together to get Rufus King retroactively elected President.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:45 PM (b4kuR)

121 Gee whiz, if only Congress would act to protect election integrity. There's even a bill they vote for!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 12:45 PM (mGZZc)

122 >>Under the spoils system, Republicans would at least be in charge some of the time, and they can't abide that.

+1

Posted by: Nazdar at June 29, 2026 12:46 PM (NcvvS)

123 Congress could easily fix the "election day" issue. But it won't. Because neither side really cares about secure elections. They all have their own fraud game going on. Ditto in the states. And not just blue states.
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Given the number of EV that will shift to red states in the next Census--God willing the R's win in 2028--blue states will be irrelevant nationally.
100% of votes for the Dem won't change Congress or the President.

Every red state must pass it's own version of the SAVE Act.

That they are not, tells you how much the state GOPe relies upon fraud to hold power.
For example, GA.

But, as I noted above, if the Dems ever take Congress and the Presidency, the first bill to pass, Day 1--and it will literally be day 1, will be mandating all-mail elections nation wide.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (3cUTc)

124 Going back to the spoils system represents a HUGE problem for the left.

So thinking this through, Republicans tend to go back to the private sector when there government jobs end, the left goes to NGOs. But those lefty NGOs are mostly government funded.

If a right leaning government stops or reduces NGO funding and the Dems can't get government work they are indeed in a pickle...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (sKqQm)

125 There was a mass shooting in Germany yesterday.

The German police said that the nationality of the shooter was "irrelevant", and refused to disclose it.

And they'll wonder why AfD keeps winning elections.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (aD4fx)

126 Marbury v. Madison was an abomination.
Posted by: Auspex

Not quite. A lot of sins get laid down at Marbury's feet but in fact Scotus ordered Jefferson (via Madison) to do nothing. This is despite the fact that Jefferson and Madison behaved abominably and perhaps even illegally in destroying Marbury's commission. Judicial review overturning another congressional law would have to wait until Dred Scott case.

For those that dislike Marbury, I would ask that you go back and read Hylton v. US. In that case, you had an actual Founder, present at the Constitutional Convention, (Justice Paterson) who was also primary drafter of the first Judiciary Act of 1789 as a senator, but also Justice Iredell who attended the NC ratifying convention. In those days, they wrote seratim (separate) opinions and you get an explanation that if the Court could rule a tax as constitutional (Hylton involved a federal excise tax on carriages), then they could rule the unconstitutional.

US at the time was unique as other countries at the time did not actually have independent courts (King and Parliament could force retirement of those they disliked) and had plenary power to change the Constitution.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (E4rtv)

127 98

I've been reading a book about, inter alia, the 1787 Constitutional Convention.

The proposition that POTUS could only fire appointees with the consent of the Senate was debated and rejected. The argument was that since Senate confirmation was required to appoint a Cabinet member, Senate approval was also required for POTUS to fire an appointee. As stated, that proposition was rejected.

Posted by: mnw at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (RCjYY)

128 Let us all kneel down and prostrate ourselves to the almighty ~~USPS postmark~~ blobby ink mark made with a carved up potato.

Fixed it for ya!

-Oregon Secretary of State, Elections Division

Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (rbvCR)

129 LA had a naked bike ride. A weirdo on a scooter decided to punish the exhibitionists by shooting them with a bb gun.

http://tiny.cc/t0u5101
Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 12:45 PM (mkw2N)
________

Genius!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (iFTx/)

130 USPS employees are conservatively speaking 95% Democrat. But I’m sure they’d never tamper with a post park machine to help out Democrats. No sir

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (v2lMK)

131 The uniparty, oops, I meant GOP Senate Caucus, is the only block to achieving success. Maybe that explains why PDJT advocates primaries against them, his ostensible co-Republicans.

Toss the scumbags out.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 12:48 PM (mGZZc)

132 60 Gasoline at my local HEB has dropped below $3.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.

topped my tank off this morning with the cheap gas (only $5.99!), because a sixty-mumble cent gas tax starts on the 1st.

Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2026 12:48 PM (sGtp+)

133 99 The likely DEM nominee for the open Senate seat in MI, al-Sayed, is the scariest & most despicable VIABLE candidate for major office I've ever seen.

Every Republican running in Michigan for every important seat is a tired retread.

Haley Stevens running against Sayed is what a comic portrayal of a young AWFL looks like; her TV ads are worth looking at if cringe humor is what you're into.

Posted by: Auspex at June 29, 2026 12:48 PM (Y8DZL)

134 I should fired or forced to retire

Posted by: The Ballots at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (LOZbR)

135 Just because there has been so much talk about what the secretary said, I asked Grok about "Closing Time":
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The line "you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here." is documented in print as early as March 5, 1944, where a Boston Herald article refers to it as an old cry in "the joints" when closing: "you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here."

Lo-o-o-o-ong before Subsonic used it because it was associated with closing time. It was an "old cry" in 1944.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (Fi81e)

136 to be fair, Art I Sec 4

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (ZxPkt)

137 Mail in ballots in general should be rare and only issued in cases of proven need.

Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (YwEeS)

138 topped my tank off this morning with the cheap gas (only $5.99!), because a sixty-mumble cent gas tax starts on the 1st.
Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2026 12:48 PM (sGtp+)

Another fellow Californian right ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (kgetQ)

139 I looked in the Constitution.
THERE'S NO FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD.

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (zMILc)

140 99 The likely DEM nominee for the open Senate seat in MI, al-Sayed, is the scariest & most despicable VIABLE candidate for major office I've ever seen.
========================
Thank you.

Posted by: Graham Platner at June 29, 2026 12:50 PM (mGZZc)

141 This mean Federal Agencies will become highly partisan and political in service of the President, and completely replaced by new presidents. So much for stability.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 12:38 PM (36xPs)

That's right. There's MUCH more stability when the left maintains constant control over federal agencies. They will just keep steering straight ahead until they drive us all off a cliff.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 29, 2026 12:51 PM (pAWWf)

142 The Supreme Court refuses to state it but the Constitution is aspirational only.

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:51 PM (zMILc)

143 I looked in the Constitution.
THERE'S NO FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD.
Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:49 PM (zMILc)

You must have the Reader's Digest version. SCOTUS uses the original. All 93,482 pages.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 12:51 PM (ExV1e)

144 Our entire system was designed with the assumption we were an honest people who followed rules and laws. That’s no longer the case. We live in a world where razors are locked behind glass in Walgreens.

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (v2lMK)

145 The late-arriving ballot case arose out of ... Mississippi. Yes, that Mississippi. One of the reddest states in the country. But MS counts ballots arriving five business days after election day. Five. Fucking. Business. Days. So ballots can show up almost a full calendar week later, and still be counted. In the reddest of red states.

If we can't get bright red states to get their shit together and not allow obviously-fraudulent late-arriving fake ballots, then we have little hope on this issue at all.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

There was a reason for it, though, and if you have been to rural Mississippi, you can suss out the logic. By the way, Mr. NYC, Esquire, in both Al and MS there are mail routes that can only be accessed by boat. I live quite near one of these towns. Your mailbox is on your pier. Next to the alligator. I think the point was to ensure people like this aren’t disenfranchised.

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (OoFl2)
_____

What you describe is true in certain portions of almost every state, even blue ones. There are remote, ultra-rural portions of NY and CA with no local postal service.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (iFTx/)

146 Hmmm... somehow missed it... but the Dominion lawsuit against Mike Lindell?

They 'settled' it ... dropped with Prejudice.

Funny how as soon as an administration comes in that will actually allow you to investigate election fraud... a bunch is found.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (mP0Kj)

147 But the reason Repubs won't pass SAVE is because of "personal" problems with Trump. (wink)

Do you know what their "personal" problem with Trump is? I'll spoil it right here.

Their problem with Trump is he want to pass the SAVE Act. And they took that... personally.

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (9wqpF)

148 Cook was being fired for mortgage fraud plus dishonesty in the ancillary matters like insurance, property taxes, etc,that would seem to be a disqualifier as a top regulator of federal banks.
_____

Have you factored in her DEI score? Pretty sure black and female easily overrides these disqualifications.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (oishd)

149 Man, that's rookie thinking. I think we should all get together to get Rufus King retroactively elected President.
Posted by: the lower depths at June 29, 2026 12:45 PM (b4kuR)

____________________________

NO KINGS!!!!!

Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (dIske)

150 I read somebody this weekend kvetching about how the restraint of the mail service puts Washington state in a bind, since they have banned in-person voting.

It's funny because, it's a simple answer: send your voter rolls to DC.

That's it. Send them in.

A funnier response was that Trump wanted to create fraud by stopping the delivery of ballots.

It's a wonder that so many people are confused about directions of things?

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (Fi81e)

151 Sometimes barely under $4 in se Pa

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (sgkY8)

152 Sleepy Joe is exercising DEAD HAND CONTROL over the Federal Reserve Board.

And SCOTUS loves it.

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (zMILc)

153 Mail-in ballots should be prohibited in federal elections, with very few and specific exceptions (e.g., military personnel overseas, etc.). The founders would be aghast at the idea of mail-in ballots, as they are so obviously open to massive fraud.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (y2f7I)

154 The Constitution itself is very sparse in its language, in part, because when the attendees could not agree (as in formal inclusion of judicial review--several states had it in their constitutions already), they remained silent to kick the can to the new government.

So you get the blank spaces--like Congress can declare war but can a president alone declare 'peace' as in Washington's Neutrality pledge. Does the language consult with his cabinet mean executive privilege?--words which never appear in the Constitution. And so on.

To have a written Constitution implies that someone has to be able to declare what that means--whether it is the President, Congress, or Scotus. In this case, the Court is merely saying that the political process can decide (states and federal government in federal elections) when the ballots are counted as long as the postmark is on Election Day. Congress is free to regulate its own elections differently if it chooses (as are states who don't even have to have elections coinciding with the national ones (see VA, NJ, KY, and LA).

I prefer bright lines because it forces discipline--eg. that election day cuts off ballots not received by Election.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)

155 My Electric bill due date is just rough estimate and I only have to pay it in a reasonable time I deem necessary.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (04gcy)

156 Funny how as soon as an administration comes in that will actually allow you to investigate election fraud... a bunch is found.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (mP0Kj)
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It's like there is a quantum effect with voter fraud!

It doesn't exist unless you look for it.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:54 PM (Fi81e)

157 142 The Supreme Court refuses to state it but the Constitution is aspirational only.
Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:51 PM (zMILc)

The comment that proved we were not actually a Republic...

'The Constitution is not a suicide pact'... was used to dilute a right, instead of amending it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:54 PM (mP0Kj)

158 Have you factored in her DEI score? Pretty sure black and female easily overrides these disqualifications.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 29, 2026 12:52
*****
How's her carpet munching score?

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 12:54 PM (zMILc)

159 "BREAKING: A federal grand jury is investigating China-based tech mogul Neville Roy Singham for alleged financial crimes, reports @FoxNews. "

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 12:36 PM (GD0B3)

Dismissed as vindictive prosecution - Judge Boasberg, probably

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 29, 2026 12:55 PM (P98IH)

160 116 and in lighter news, headline from the NY Post:
NJ middle school yearbook recalled after Hitler photo published among student baby pics
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2026 12:44 PM (rbvCR)

lol

https://nypost.com/2026/06/29/us-news/nj-
middle-school-yearbook-recalled-after-hitler-
photo-published-among-student-baby-pics/

Posted by: No Name Today at June 29, 2026 12:55 PM (8mulE)

161 Have you factored in her DEI score? Pretty sure black and female easily overrides these disqualifications.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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That will be true in the DC district court, probably true at the DC appellate level, not necessarily true at Scotus.

And if the US DoJ does its job, it will try and convict her which establishes facts on the ground that a district court cannot disregard if they want the decision to hold up on appeal.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:55 PM (E4rtv)

162 130 USPS employees are conservatively speaking 95% Democrat. But I’m sure they’d never tamper with a post park machine to help out Democrats. No sir
Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:47 PM (v2lMK)

Focus on the Family used to mail out many pallets of newsletters every month. The USPS in Denver would refuse to mail them and set up all the obstacles they possibly could. FoF had to hire lawyers to get their mail out. This was in the early 2000s and somehow I don't think the USPS attitude has improved.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 29, 2026 12:55 PM (pAWWf)

163 Why is it we bend over backwards for the most extreme edge cases? Oh no someone in rural Mississippi’s who lives on a river won’t be able to wait until the last minute to vote by mail.

Oh no some back woman in Harlem who is 103 year old doesn’t have ID and won’t be able to vote.

Yeah tough shit. You’re the 0.01% exception to the rule. We shouldn’t be held hostage by the exception to the exception to the rule.

Posted by: Heroq at June 29, 2026 12:56 PM (v2lMK)

164 The left often argues that there is no fraud to be found and so things like SAVE are just wastes of money.

Well, these are the people that were paying for transexual operas in Peru and for studies to examine why lesbians are fatter then straight women so they are perfectly fine with wasting money.

The assumption then should be every politician opposed to SAFE has been elected via fraudulent ballots

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:56 PM (sKqQm)

165 High ho, high ho, it's out the door they go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 12:56 PM (3oLMy)

166 Election Mail isn’t required to have a postmark. They don’t like to run ballots through the machines if it can be helped. Imagine that. Election Mail is handled differently. Directly when possible.

If it is sent off after Election Day, then it needs a postmark, I expect.

The left has bypassed all this anyhow. “Ballot Boxes”, sprinkled far and wide. No chain of custody no post office, just stuff them with phony baloney ballots.
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The patronage system wasn’t perfect, but it had some notable advantages. The Chief Executive SHOULD be able to hire and fire at will.

That’s kind of the whole point. Leftists tend to treat these things as flaws, rather than features.

“The Electoral College is Undemocratic!”

No Shit. That was the very purpose, ya dumb bint.

Incidentally they hate the US Senate perhaps worse than the EC. That will take a little longer to get rid of, so it’s on the back burner for now. You’ll see.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 29, 2026 12:56 PM (sDaxV)

167 What you describe is true in certain portions of almost every state, even blue ones. There are remote, ultra-rural portions of NY and CA with no local postal service.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM

But do they have alligators? I am not saying election day shouldn’t be Election Day. I am saying there was some little bit of logic used in the case of MS. I don’t think this decision is fantastic. Alabama does not have mail in ballots except for specific absentee ballots, and those have to arrive 7 days prior Election Day if mailed, and 5 days if delivered in person. There is a good start for around the country.

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

168 A Constitution becomes law, it is presumed to have

emanations...
emanations

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (ZxPkt)

169 I prefer bright lines because it forces discipline--eg. that election day cuts off ballots not received by Election.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)
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I do too to some degree. But I also believe the struggle between branches was expected to be a little more bare-knuckle than moderns take it to be.

The Federalist Papers provide no guarantee that the President is never going to act like a King. It simply argues that Congress can take his money away if he starts that.

A lot of the arguments of the FP are "no worse than".

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (Fi81e)

170 And they'll wonder why AfD keeps winning elections.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Well, AfD will "win" elections, but everyone else will refuse to form a government with them, effectively freezing them out regardless of popularity.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (36xPs)

171 Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.
Posted by: Tuna

Poor thing. I paid 4.50 yesterday at the Safeway gas station. I pity your pain.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (rbvCR)

172 156 Funny how as soon as an administration comes in that will actually allow you to investigate election fraud... a bunch is found.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM (mP0Kj)
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It's like there is a quantum effect with voter fraud!

It doesn't exist unless you look for it.
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:54 PM (Fi81e)

My Fav was Bill Barr asked in Congressional testimony if there was any evidence of Election Fraud. He said his staff had found no evidence.

And then his major Aid testified saying they had not even looked at any allegations.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (mP0Kj)

173 Why is it we bend over backwards for the most extreme edge cases? Oh no someone in rural Mississippi’s who lives on a river won’t be able to wait until the last minute to vote by mail.

During COVIDmania the left told us that if a thousands or even millions of kids had to get heart damage to keep them safe from COVID it was a price they were willing to pay so their supposed concerns about the ones of voters that might be negatively impacted by this could be fairly seen as...lies

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (sKqQm)

174 We really need two more Alito's and Thomas's on the Court

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 29, 2026 12:58 PM (qoLdL)

175 171 Mine was 3.09 yesterday. Now back up to 3,46 today. Should have topped off the tank yesterday.
Posted by: Tuna

Poor thing. I paid 4.50 yesterday at the Safeway gas station. I pity your pain.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (rbvCR)

$5.60 in Los A Cali yesterday.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 12:58 PM (mP0Kj)

176 So, I think "executive privilege" is part of the expected bare-knuckle struggle between branches.

However, I don't think it includes Nancy Pelosi bopping Trump in the nose if he "trespasses" on the Capital.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 12:58 PM (Fi81e)

177 138 topped my tank off this morning with the cheap gas (only $5.99!), because a sixty-mumble cent gas tax starts on the 1st.
Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2026 12:48 PM (sGtp+)

Another fellow Californian right ?

yep. exceptionally sunny socal.

Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2026 12:59 PM (sGtp+)

178 Is there a Dancing Trump emoji?
I want one right here.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 29, 2026 12:59 PM (tj+LC)

179 A Constitution becomes law, it is presumed to have

emanations...
emanations
Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (ZxPkt)
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We're right here!

Posted by: Pnumbrae at June 29, 2026 12:59 PM (Fi81e)

180 Another fellow Californian right ?

yep. exceptionally sunny socal.
Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2026 12:59 PM (sGtp+)

Mostly sunny NorCal here...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 01:00 PM (kgetQ)

181 153 Mail-in ballots should be prohibited in federal elections, with very few and specific exceptions (e.g., military personnel overseas, etc.). The founders would be aghast at the idea of mail-in ballots, as they are so obviously open to massive fraud.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

Eh, the Founders were comfortable with boozy election parties and rounding up people to go and vote. At the time, there was no voter registration so you often had people voting who were foreigners, out of jurisdiction, etc. and many times duplicate votes. Property requirements were often ignored and so on. Fraudulent elections have always been with us from the get go. As new tech came around, the extension of how to commit fraud has broadened.

Edgar Allen Poe died after being swept up with a group of floaters who went from precinct to precinct in urban areas to cast votes multiple times. That was in the 1840's in Baltimore for example. Voter Registration did not come in to pass until the Progressive era around the turn of the 20th century.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:00 PM (E4rtv)

182 There are plenty of ways to get around the postmark thing. My local P.O. still uses a rubber stamp to postmark certified mail and such. The date is changed manually. A couple of these stamps and a room full of Democrat "poll watchers", and you got yourself some massive fraud.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at June 29, 2026 01:00 PM (Do64S)

183 Republicans don't mind fraud partly because that's how a number of them got through primaries.

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:01 PM (9wqpF)

184 174 We really need two more Alito's and Thomas's on the Court
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

Shouldn't be a problem to get done. All the Dem forums I check are desperate to expand SCOTUS, so this is a rare point of bipartisanship...right?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (36xPs)

185 >We really need two more Alito's and Thomas's on the Court

Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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I fear that each is a one-off

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (ZxPkt)

186 Fire
Fire
Fire
Fire the fucking lot

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (R+iUD)

187 Scotus says Postman Newman controls elections.

Posted by: davidt at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (Q+gd/)

188 This is plainly unconstitutional. The Constitution establishes that there is an Executive branch headed by a Chief Executive, the president, who is vested with all of the power of the executive branch of government. Congress may not set up fakey-fake "independent" agencies which are part of the Executive and yet not part of the Executive.

Today, an hour ago, the Supreme Court re-introduced the Constitution into constitutional law about firing the heads of "independent" agencies.
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Imagine that. Returning to the Constitution of all things!

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (Fi81e)

189 And it looks like Trump is gonna have to pay off that freaky lying "rape" accuser...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (kgetQ)

190 183 Republicans don't mind fraud partly because that's how a number of them got through primaries.

Posted by: ...
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Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?
Hello, I love you, let me play in your game.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (3oLMy)

191 167 Alabama does not have mail in ballots except for specific absentee ballots, and those have to arrive 7 days prior Election Day if mailed, and 5 days if delivered in person. There is a good start for around the country.
Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM

What you talk about is common sense, therefore it anathema to Democrats. They only care about getting and retaining power.

Like the Socialist and Communists that they admire, they will do anything to get that power.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (qoLdL)

192 If you knew how easy it is to postdate stuff on an MLOCR you would be shocked.

The USPS can make it look like these ballots arrived whenever they like.

And hey, if a pallet shows up on the docks who is to say they didn't just forget to run it on time and it is not the fault of the voter at all. We can't disenfranchise people due to a postal error.

There is a reason for hard deadlines.

Posted by: Thatch at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (i0077)

193 What you describe is true in certain portions of almost every state, even blue ones. There are remote, ultra-rural portions of NY and CA with no local postal service.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:52 PM

But do they have alligators? I am not saying election day shouldn’t be Election Day. I am saying there was some little bit of logic used in the case of MS. I don’t think this decision is fantastic. Alabama does not have mail in ballots except for specific absentee ballots, and those have to arrive 7 days prior Election Day if mailed, and 5 days if delivered in person. There is a good start for around the country.
Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)
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That MS logic can be applied everywhere, though. If legit difficulty in mailing votes is a reason to allow late-arriving ballots, then that would apply to every state in the country. The test can't be whether there are alligators or not.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

194 Republicans don't mind fraud partly because that's how a number of them got through primaries.

The claim is made that primary electorates tend to be more "extreme" because committed left/right wing voters will go vote and modern occasional voters will not.

And this is certainly backed up in Dem primaries. But R primaries oddly often show no matter how poorly incumbents poll and are hated by rightwing voters they find enough votes to win.

Certainly an...interesting...pattern in the data.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (sKqQm)

195 There was at least one election when the ballots were delayed and sent to overseas military personnel so late that they could not possibly be returned by election day. Of course this benefited the Democrats.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 29, 2026 01:03 PM (pAWWf)

196 Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:00 PM (E4rtv)

They showed that pretty well in Gangs of NY.

If you think that was bad , the stock market was worse with the fraud and manipulation.

Good men have to reign in bad men but it's a never ending battle. I think our ratio fluctuates.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2026 01:04 PM (04gcy)

197 Like it has been said here many times it's the mail in ballots that have to be stopped....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 01:04 PM (kgetQ)

198 187 Scotus says Postman Newman controls elections.
Posted by: davidt at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (Q+gd/)
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So, we need good weather on election day, or Newman isn't going to pick-up the mail. He doesn't work when it rains.

Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 01:04 PM (dIske)

199 That MS logic can be applied everywhere, though. If legit difficulty in mailing votes is a reason to allow late-arriving ballots, then that would apply to every state in the country. The test can't be whether there are alligators or not.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 01:03

That was a joke. You obviously didn’t read the rest, I wasn’t defending it.

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 01:05 PM (Wmg4n)

200 There was at least one election when the ballots were delayed and sent to overseas military personnel so late that they could not possibly be returned by election day. Of course this benefited the Democrats.

IIRC the Dem SoS in the state where that happened argued she didn't have to count them legally and so she didn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 01:05 PM (sKqQm)

201 Scotus says Postman Newman controls elections.
Posted by: davidt at June 29, 2026 01:02 PM (Q+gd/)
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Only when states have chosen to rely on the postal service, though.

States can make a different choice. They made the choice to rely on an agency that is not in state control.

This is not surprising. Dems are execrable at planning and administering and governing and it's no surprise that, as everything else, they thoroughly fucked up on elections too.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:05 PM (Fi81e)

202 IIRC the Dem SoS in the state where that happened argued she didn't have to count them legally and so she didn't.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 01:05 PM (sKqQm)
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Exactly, it turns out that just like everything else, you can't believe Dems on "disenfranchisement" either.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:06 PM (Fi81e)

203 That MS logic can be applied everywhere, though. If legit difficulty in mailing votes is a reason to allow late-arriving ballots, then that would apply to every state in the country. The test can't be whether there are alligators or not.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 01:03

That was a joke. You obviously didn’t read the rest, I wasn’t defending it.
Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 01:05 PM (Wmg4n)
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Alligators don't count. But Komodo Dragons, though ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

204 Rein = reign

I don't need your help autocrap.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2026 01:07 PM (04gcy)

205
28 OT, but saw for our first time a guy eating out of a dumpster here in our ETEX town.
Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2026 12:23 PM

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Don't look at me!

Posted by: John Bolton at June 29, 2026 01:07 PM (VWtfl)

206 Didn't the Florida 2000 debacle involve late military ballots?

Posted by: davidt at June 29, 2026 01:08 PM (Q+gd/)

207
Piper, I got to the ONT late last night and I couldn't tell you how great that eyeglasses thing was! Girl, I could have carried on and on about that. I'm more interested in glasses than I am in shoes or purses.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 01:08 PM (XJ22o)

208 Republicans don't mind fraud partly because that's how a number of them got through primaries.
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1. There is no fraud of any significance.
2. Republicans have benefited from fraud.

There is only one party that things this is a consistent set of statements.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:09 PM (Fi81e)

209 Just like:

1. Elections can't be stolen.
2. Trump stole the election.

Only one party has said both in close proximity to each other.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (Fi81e)

210 > Edgar Allen Poe died after being swept up with a group of floaters who went from precinct to precinct in urban areas to cast votes multiple times.

I don't think that's known with certainty. We know he disappeared for 5-6 days and was discovered on election day. He was found in secondhand clothes which were not his. Poe couldn't explain what happened. He was in and out of consciousness and observed to be hallucinating by the doctors who attended him.

"Cooping" is a popular theory. Gangs would kidnap people, get them drunk, beat them into compliance, and send them to multiple polling places to vote. They would sometimes re-dress the victims as a disguise.

He may have been severely drunk and or on drugs. He may have been attacked and suffered a brain injury. He may have suffered some other medical event like a suicide attempt or even hypoglycemia.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (mkw2N)

211 As the number of convenient mail-in ballots goes up, the number of ballots found in car trunks and other mysterious places goes down!

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (9wqpF)

212 They do have be postmarked by Election day, though.
And no one could possibly fake a mail stamp.

Of course not. It never happens. It's a myth.

And if it did happen, it was just some persons doing some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
If so, they were in the enthusiasm of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

OrangeMan Bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: (D)emocrat Election Officials at June 29, 2026 01:11 PM (0sNs1)

213 1. Elections can't be stolen.
2. Trump stole the election.

Only one party has said both in close proximity to each other.

The left: Presidential elections can't be stolen, our elections are 100% secure. Anyone that claims otherwise is a lying NAZI Russian bot.

Also the left: The elections of 24, 16, 04, 00, and 1980 were all stolen

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 01:11 PM (sKqQm)

214 Only one party has said both in close proximity to each other.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (Fi81e)

It's even better than that.

Republicans claim every election is insecure.

Democrats claim only the elections they lose are insecure, and while the ones they win are the most secure elections possible and ever.

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:12 PM (9wqpF)

215 >Didn't the Florida 2000 debacle involve late military ballots?
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Bush v Gore was, SCOTUS found that Florida courts were re-writing election law, which is the sole purview of the state legislature

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 01:12 PM (ZxPkt)

216 >>> 73 The focus on when mail-in ballots are received is misplaced. The issue is the validity of unrestricted mail-in voting to begin with.
Posted by: Halfhand at June 29, 2026 12:33 PM (9MUFz)

Halfhand Johnson is right!

At least this *may* get people thinking about the bigger picutre.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 01:12 PM (R+iUD)

217 NJ middle school yearbook recalled after Hitler photo published among student baby pics

Honestly, that's a quality senior prank.

Also, they accepted a black and white photo for someone born in *thinks what 2026-18 is, wishes he hadn't* 2008?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:13 PM (QZThv)

218 The Marxists will fight any investigation on fraud
And find Commissar Judges to back them

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 01:13 PM (sgkY8)

219 Rising gas prices can be annoying but it’s a bit overstated if you ask me. Example: Someone drives 10,000 miles a year and gets 40mpg with their car. The gas cost difference is $1500 at $6 per gallon vs $750 annually at $3 per gallon. Annoying but not a huge difference…. People sure do bitch about it though, I’d be complaining if I was paying $6 I admit

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 29, 2026 01:13 PM (4dZtR)

220 If elections are rigged then they are not fair so why even bother to vote?

Posted by: Case at June 29, 2026 01:14 PM (IY9No)

221 Republicans don't mind fraud partly because that's how a number of them got through primaries.

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Mitch McConnell, who totes won 2 of KY's Bluest Counties in the last election at June 29, 2026 01:14 PM (0sNs1)

222 The left: Presidential elections can't be stolen, our elections are 100% secure. Anyone that claims otherwise is a lying NAZI Russian bot.

Also the left: The elections of 24, 16, 04, 00, and 1980 were all stolen

The left: Trump is unprecedentedly Hitlerian!

Also the left, in 1948: Thomas Dewey is the literal reincarnation of Adolf Hitler!

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:14 PM (QZThv)

223 How many alligators have the Dems registered to vote in MS?

Posted by: Bulg at June 29, 2026 01:14 PM (77rzZ)

224 Cooping" is a popular theory. Gangs would kidnap people, get them drunk, beat them into compliance, and send them to multiple polling places to vote.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (mkw2N)
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If those groups were Republicans, it would derail a lot of my theories.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)

225 The answer to this is The Republicans need to learn how to cheat better...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 01:15 PM (kgetQ)

226 I do too to some degree. But I also believe the struggle between branches was expected to be a little more bare-knuckle than moderns take it to be.

The Federalist Papers provide no guarantee that the President is never going to act like a King. It simply argues that Congress can take his money away if he starts that.

A lot of the arguments of the FP are "no worse than".
Posted by: Axeman
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Founders all declaimed political parties but ended up creating them right after the glow of the new Republic existed. That is why I think they were far more talented politicians that we have today but also that they were just as human, prone to errors, and self interest as any politician in power today.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:15 PM (E4rtv)

227 WTFO?

Seven of the eight new internal medicine residents at taxpayer-funded Indiana University are foreigners. Half are from Pakistan.

Does anyone believe no American medical students are qualified? IU has our country’s largest medical school.

Posted by: r hennigantx at June 29, 2026 01:15 PM (/+uur)

228 NJ middle school yearbook recalled after Hitler photo published among student baby pics
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Officials became suspicious when Eva Braun was named Prom Queen.

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:16 PM (9wqpF)

229 If elections are rigged then they are not fair so why even bother to vote?

Posted by: Case at June 29, 2026 01:14 PM (IY9No)
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You don't think that 2024 was rigged to a degree?

I consider it very likely that Trump beat the cheat.

That's why you should bother to vote.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:16 PM (Fi81e)

230 Rising gas prices can be annoying but it’s a bit overstated if you ask me. Example: Someone drives 10,000 miles a year and gets 40mpg with their car. The gas cost difference is $1500 at $6 per gallon vs $750 annually at $3 per gallon. Annoying but not a huge difference…. People sure do bitch about it though, I’d be complaining if I was paying $6 I admit

Yeah, the fact that I get relatively bad gas mileage because I chose to drive a full-size car (and mostly in city traffic) is baked into the cake. I'd still bitch if I was paying California prices for gas, but I'm not.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:16 PM (QZThv)

231 The gas cost difference is $1500 at $6 per gallon vs $750 annually at $3 per gallon. Annoying but not a huge difference….

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Oh, it's more than annoying to me. That $750 could be much better spent elsewhere, or saved (ha ha) .

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at June 29, 2026 01:16 PM (Do64S)

232 Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:57 PM

What you talk about is common sense, therefore it anathema to Democrats. They only care about getting and retaining power.

Like the Socialist and Communists that they admire, they will do anything to get that power.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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We'll know a lot more or it will be more clearly defined after this election. The 400 arrests and recent convictions in TX must have an effect on some outcomes. - CA & NY excepted.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 01:17 PM (3oLMy)

233 Piper, I got to the ONT late last night and I couldn't tell you how great that eyeglasses thing was! Girl, I could have carried on and on about that. I'm more interested in glasses than I am in shoes or purses.

wait what? I'm interested! I just got some from Zeelool they were pretty all right.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 01:17 PM (j+aD2)

234 Congress should go back to old absentee ballot standard. If you can't show up at the polling place , you need a good reason. Reasons include being paralyzed, serving on the military etc. Mail in ballots whenever received or mailed are a recipe for fraud

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (f6yx7)

235 220 If elections are rigged then they are not fair so why even bother to vote?
Posted by: Case

Exactly!

Hey, Case's ballot just freed up. Someone go fill it out for him.

Posted by: Democrat Election Worker at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (oishd)

236 You don't think that 2024 was rigged to a degree?

I consider it very likely that Trump beat the cheat.

That's why you should bother to vote.

The cheat was also suppressed in 2024 by the RNC having lawyers on call to sue any jurisdiction that said they'd flushed a toilet and had to stop counting.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (QZThv)

237 Democrats claim only the elections they lose are insecure, and while the ones they win are the most secure elections possible and ever.

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:12 PM (9wqpF)
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And we probably should prosecute you for calling them into question. (Michigan)

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (Fi81e)

238 Today, I am announcing, as part of my 2028 Presidential Campaign platform, an initiative to eliminate messy eliminations.

Basically, a tax (so it will pass Constitutional muster) on bowel movements.

I call it the "Pay as You Go Plan".

Posted by: Gavin Newsom (D-CA) at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (0sNs1)

239 Also the left, in 1948: Thomas Dewey is the literal reincarnation of Adolf Hitler!
Posted by: Ian S.

Hitler was such a gift the Democrat party that if he hadn't existed they'd have had to invent him.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (vJrRc)

240 207
Piper, I got to the ONT late last night and I couldn't tell you how great that eyeglasses thing was! Girl, I could have carried on and on about that. I'm more interested in glasses than I am in shoes or purses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 01:08 PM

Thank you! I am glad you liked it.

Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (hftzA)

241 I wouldn't say the average worker would be involved but would never exclude union officers at the postal mail hubs.

And if they (union officers) pulled it off, it's worth looking at the postal inspectors, too.

Years ago, before C19, postal inspectors were 👍🏼.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (NFX2v)

242 231 The gas cost difference is $1500 at $6 per gallon vs $750 annually at $3 per gallon. Annoying but not a huge difference…
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$4 Dollars gas wasn't bad under O'Biden because the media was sucking his dick.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (3oLMy)

243 222 The left: Presidential elections can't be stolen, our elections are 100% secure. Anyone that claims otherwise is a lying NAZI Russian bot.

Also the left: The elections of 24, 16, 04, 00, and 1980 were all stolen

The left: Trump is unprecedentedly Hitlerian!

Also the left, in 1948: Thomas Dewey is the literal reincarnation of Adolf Hitler!
Posted by: Ian S.
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There is no reason to take the Left seriously anymore in their political arguments--it is all Calvin Ball crap as the Democrats have become quite literally captured by the Commies and their situational ethics.

Problem is that the GOP still wants to reach around the aisle bullshit so GOPe politicians can make a buck from Uncle Sam scams.

Same with Justices on Scotus, namely ACB and Roberts. Roberts as Chief Justice has a wife who recruits for top law firms in the DC area and gets paid massively to do it. Severe conflict of interest. ACB was a law professor and that often warps the brain into trying to square circles.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)

244 but yeah the thing with that crazy lady in NYC is not good

any thoughts on that one, whig?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (j+aD2)

245 I think Trump was fully justified in firing Cook with her mortgage fraud, I'm not sure though it wold be worth giving this power to the next Dem President as they would just stack it with cronies that had easy money policies that just want to juice the economy short term.

Posted by: Sharpie at June 29, 2026 01:19 PM (t9gQn)

246 How many alligators have the Dems registered to vote in MS?

I fully support Democrat operatives meeting with alligators where they live.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (QZThv)

247 respectfully, the fed ought to remain independent at all costs.

there's no doubt in my mind that certain actions were taken by the fed's governors for the purpose of politically hindering trump and bolstering his opposition. that's bad, of course, and one might think that a proper resolution would be to eliminate the fed's independence and put it under the purview of the executive.

...but then one imagines, for only a fraction of a second, the piles of money that would have been printed as giveaways to political allies and acolytes during t he biden junta, and one immediately realises that the fed ought to remain independent at all costs.

Posted by: pH at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (J9hPc)

248 Losses as GAINZZ news:
I'm down 23.6lbs since April 21.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (mkw2N)

249 Cooping" is a popular theory. Gangs would kidnap people, get them drunk, beat them into compliance, and send them to multiple polling places to vote.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 01:10 PM (mkw2N)
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If those groups were Republicans, it would derail a lot of my theories.
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)
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Given that Poe died before the Republican Party was founded it seems unlikely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (amcLV)

250 >>> 112
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If we can't get bright red states to get their shit together and not allow obviously-fraudulent late-arriving fake ballots, then we have little hope on this issue at all.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 29, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

There was a reason for it, though, and if you have been to rural Mississippi, you can suss out the logic. By the way, Mr. NYC, Esquire, in both Al and MS there are mail routes that can only be accessed by boat. I live quite near one of these towns. Your mailbox is on your pier. Next to the alligator. I think the point was to ensure people like this aren’t disenfranchised.

That said, the post mark thing is a little narrowing of this law. The rest of the fix is in the hands of our congresscritters.
Posted by: Piper at June 29, 2026 12:43 PM (OoFl2)

We allow mail in ballots for military because duh, they're American citizens who are often overseas. Could the MS legislature define certain zones of Postal Difficulty, which per your description, sound like they would lean more American and less commie? Not that I'm holding my breath, but imagine the shrieking it would cause.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 01:21 PM (R+iUD)

251 234 Congress should go back to old absentee ballot standard. If you can't show up at the polling place , you need a good reason. Reasons include being paralyzed, serving on the military etc. Mail in ballots whenever received or mailed are a recipe for fraud
Posted by: Smell the Glove

And that is the crux of the matter, Scotus is reluctant to fix what the political branches ignore. It has never been a savior of the Republic, but Congress has to power to stop that shit in federal elections at least. And every state government should have voters concerned enough to stop it.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:21 PM (E4rtv)

252 The cheat was also suppressed in 2024 by the RNC having lawyers on call to sue any jurisdiction that said they'd flushed a toilet and had to stop counting.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (QZThv)
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However it was suppressed that year, it's still a case that even if "elections can be rigged" (in general) you should "bother to vote".

It shouldn't need the complete absence of rigging elections that spurs a civically conscious person to vote.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:21 PM (Fi81e)

253 Mail in ballots whenever received or mailed are a recipe for fraud
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 01:18 PM (f6yx7)

Especially when there are 65 voter registrations from an empty lot with a pair of port-a-potties on it.

The left doesn't even speak in terms of people casting votes any more. Its now 'ballots' and 'votes' because they know there is no eligible voter behind that mail in ballot. And SCOTUS just validated that.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 29, 2026 01:21 PM (P98IH)

254 Well, then, the Constitution needs to be amended to allow for this "independent" fourth branch.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at June 29, 2026 01:22 PM (Do64S)

255 You don't think that 2024 was rigged to a degree?

I consider it very likely that Trump beat the cheat.

That's why you should bother to vote.
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:16 PM (Fi81e)

Agree. There's no way that boozy cow got 70 million votes (or however many).

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 29, 2026 01:22 PM (k9OZB)

256 We have a pride month nood.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 29, 2026 01:22 PM (P98IH)

257 NOOD

PRIDEMONTH

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 01:22 PM (R+iUD)

258 The whole economy has functioned on the notion that if you are sent a bill with ~ one month to pay that you can return it before the due date.

Not get it post marked by that date.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2026 01:22 PM (sKqQm)

259 We allow mail in ballots for military because duh, they're American citizens who are often overseas. Could the MS legislature define certain zones of Postal Difficulty, which per your description, sound like they would lean more American and less commie? Not that I'm holding my breath, but imagine the shrieking it would cause.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Yes they can. But our Congress is totally dysfunctional nowadays due to interest group and oligarchic manipulations. Tax, spending, and borrowing bills are about the only thing that Congress can do anymore other than placebo fixes.

Posted by: whig at June 29, 2026 01:23 PM (E4rtv)

260 Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (mkw2N)

Excellent work!!

Posted by: ... at June 29, 2026 01:23 PM (9wqpF)

261 Hitler was such a gift the Democrat party that if he hadn't existed they'd have had to invent him.

Right? I'm imagining a movie where someone does the time machine / kill Hitler thing and comes back to discover the Democrat Party disbanded in 1958 as a result.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 29, 2026 01:23 PM (QZThv)

262 Given that Poe died before the Republican Party was founded it seems unlikely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 29, 2026 01:20 PM (amcLV)
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The gang that killed Poe, definitely. I was talking about "cooping" in general. It it worked during the time of Poe, do you imagine that it just vanished?

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:23 PM (Fi81e)

263 The year that my wife and I had would be out of town during election week, I was grateful for the ease of scheduling an absentee ballot.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 01:25 PM (Fi81e)

264
wait what? I'm interested! I just got some from Zeelool they were pretty all right.
Posted by: Black Orchid

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Take a look. Some very cool sunglasses and eyeglasses in there that makes you appreciate history. Reading glasses have been around in some form since the 13th century believe it or not, and it wasn't until the mid-20th century that their design moved beyond pure utilitarianism to fashion accessories.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 01:26 PM (XJ22o)

265 et
@Polymarket
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JUST IN: The Supreme Court will officially issue its birthright citizenship ruling tomorrow.

Posted by: Don Black at June 29, 2026 01:26 PM (ZxPkt)

266 2024 by the RNC having lawyers on call to sue any jurisdiction that said they'd flushed a toilet and had to stop counting.

Posted by: Ian S.
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They were not on call in 2020 because they wouldn't come.
They were afraid of the Democrats.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 01:27 PM (3oLMy)

267 Mail in ballots are subject to fraud. That could be good or bad depending on who needs the votes and who is voting. It could be Dems and RINOs are benefitting. Prove that we have secure elections and I’ll correct my statement.

Posted by: High tech at June 29, 2026 01:28 PM (37cEZ)

268 Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined the court's three other liberal justices

Posted by: toby928(c) at June 29, 2026 01:28 PM (VZKpw)

269 Cooping:
It has been cited speculatively in relation to the death of Edgar Allan Poe in October 1849
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Something they didn't teach at high school.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 29, 2026 01:30 PM (3oLMy)

270 Prohibit the USPS from accepting and mailing any mail--in ballots.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 29, 2026 01:41 PM (Ovx84)

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