Supreme Court May Decide Birthright Citizenship Case This Week; RNC Sues Colorado Over Allowing Birth Tourism Foreigners Who Never Even Set Foot in Colorado to Vote There

In the next few days, we may find out if we have a country or not.

May be. The Disney Groomer Corporation is sad.

The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to weigh in this week on President Donald Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship by executive order, a move which would upend more than a century of legal precedent and a national tradition that have said babies born on American soil are automatically American citizens.
The ruling, one of the most highly anticipated of the year, is a major test of Trump's unprecedented assertion of presidential power in his second term with major stakes for millions of children and their families.

What is birthright citizenship?
Birthright citizenship is the idea that a child automatically becomes a citizen of the country in which they are born, regardless of the immigration status of their parents.
It reflects the principle of jus soli, or right of the soil, extending citizenship purely on the basis of geographic location.
By contrast, many countries extend citizenship under the principle of jus sanguinis, or right of blood, which is determined by the nationality of a child's parents regardless of the location of birth.
How does birthright citizenship work in the U.S.?
With few exceptions, all babies born on U.S. soil become U.S. citizens.
For the approximately 3.6 million children born in American hospitals every year, the birth certificate alone has been the key to obtaining Social Security numbers, passports and early life benefits.
Into adulthood, the birth certificate has been universally recognized as proof of citizenship for such things as voter registration, employment, home loans and military service.
What does the Constitution say about birthright citizenship?
The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868 to address the legal status of former slaves and their descendants, says plainly that all "persons born or naturalized in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are citizens.

If they meant to say that all persons born in the US were citizens, they would have just said that. Instead they added an additional qualification: "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." That is, not subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign country, that is, not a citizen of another country.

Congress later codified the same language in federal citizenship law enacted in 1940.
Courts and the government have repeatedly interpreted the 14th Amendment to unambiguously confer citizenship on all children born in the U.S., including babies of unauthorized noncitizens and temporary residents, such as asylum seekers, international students, tourists and seasonal workers.

Yes, they have done so by completely ignoring the qualification that you need to be born in the US and be subject to the jurisdiction of the US and not to another country.

Will the Supreme Court agree, finally? I doubt it. Coney Barrett's inclinations are always towards the liberal status quo, unless the case is so clear that it overrides her inclinations. Kavanaugh and Gorsuch both side with liberals in many cases. And Roberts, of course, invented "it's a tax" out of whole cloth -- this had never even been argued by Obama, for the obvious reason that he swore up and down that Obamacare was not a new set of taxes -- to side with the liberal establishment after a brutal influence campaign directed at this weak, status-seeking man.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, we see anew the problem with allowing automatic birthright citizenship. Many people who were born in the US only due to birthright tourism -- flying to the US within a week of delivering a baby to secure that baby US citizenship, before flying back home, usually to China --are permitted to vote in Colorado despite having never, ever actually been residents of Colorado.

Not just birthright citizenship, but birthright permanent voting rights for foreigners living in foreign adversary nations.

The Republican National Committee on Friday filed suit in Denver District state court against Secretary of State Jena Griswold, challenging her office's policy of allowing overseas voters who have never set foot in Colorado to cast ballots in state elections.
Filed just four days before Colorado's primary election, the suit argues Griswold's implementation of the state's overseas voter law runs headlong into the Colorado Constitution's residency requirement.
Griswold is also a candidate for Colorado attorney general in the June 30 Democrat primary.
"Residency is not inherited and cannot be established by proxy," the complaint reads. "An individual who has never personally made Colorado his or her home has not 'resided in this state' within the meaning of Article VII of the Colorado Constitution."
Griswold's office claims that "if you are a United States citizen who has never lived in the United States, you can register to vote in Colorado if your parent, legal guardian, spouse, or domestic partner was a resident of Colorado before leaving the United States."
The complaint argues that allowing residency for voting to pass by proxy through a parent or spouse is unconstitutional, regardless of what the legislature or the secretary of state says.
Joining the RNC in the suit are Douglas County Clerk and Recorder Sheri Davis and U.S. Rep. Jeff Crank, who represents the Colorado Springs area.
The plaintiffs argue the policy is a partisan issue as well as a legal problem, pulling no punches on this point: "it is well understood that the overseas civilian voting bloc, which is partly comprised of these illegal never-resident voters, overwhelmingly supports and votes for Democratic Party candidates."

The latter from Stephen Green of Instapundit.

Also from Green:

Publius
@OcrazioCornPop
Trump, 2018: "Haiti is a sh!thole country."
Hollywood Libs: "Haiti is a great, truly beautiful country. Trump is a r*cist!"
Trump (& SCOTUS), 2026: "Temporary means temporary, Haitians have to return home to their great, truly beautiful country."
Hollywood Libs: "Haiti is a sh!thole country. They must be allowed to stay forever."
CHECKMATE, LIBTARDS.
WHY ARE HOLLYWOOD LIBS LIKE THIS?

Trump, 2018: "Haiti is a sh!thole country."

Hollywood Libs: "Haiti is a great, truly beautiful country. Trump is a r*cist!"

Trump (& SCOTUS), 2026: "Temporary means temporary, Haitians have to return home to their great, truly beautiful country."

Hollywood Libs: "Haiti is a… pic.twitter.com/MIihPkcYot
— Publius (@OcrazioCornPop) June 27, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 I worry about this one.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 29, 2026 05:32 PM (hzuYO)

2 Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 29, 2026 05:32 PM (iMotb)

3 No way.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 29, 2026 05:32 PM (ibDUx)

4 In the next few days, we may find out if we have a country or not

Don't wait. Buy ammo now.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 29, 2026 05:33 PM (2WIwB)

5
Hey kidz. Great day of posting, ace!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 05:33 PM (XJ22o)

6 In the next few days, we may find out if we have a country or not.

We don't.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 29, 2026 05:34 PM (ExV1e)

7 I was surprised by the Mail in Ballot decision... wonder if they made a deal to give the Lefties Judges that if they did not bitch too much about the Birthright citizenship question.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:35 PM (mP0Kj)

8 RNC Sues Colorado Over Allowing Birth Tourism Foreigners Who Never Even Set Foot in Colorado to Vote There
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NO STANDING!!

Posted by: Federal TDS Judge at June 29, 2026 05:36 PM (Fi81e)

9 Shithole or not a shithole? Depends on the narrative we need.
The Left

Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2026 05:37 PM (YwEeS)

10 Hollywood opinions are particularly ridiculous. Pay no attention to the fake people.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:37 PM (BFjnM)

11 WHY ARE HOLLYWOOD LIBS LIKE THIS?

Cognitive dissonance is all they've got upstairs.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 29, 2026 05:37 PM (O7YUW)

12 I bet the SC punts on this one.

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (Gqar8)

13 Birth tourism babies automatically become American citizens, and they can vote in perpetuity in American elections without residing here, but their ballots have to be post-marked no later than election day.

Another wise and fair decision!

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (ciDxf)

14 > permitted to vote in Colorado despite having never, ever actually been residents of Colorado.

I see how this can gum up Senate and Presidential elections by handing control over to China — especially now since Colorado is party to NPVIC.

But how do Congressional districts work? Through random lottery, or do Chinese nationals with US birth certificates get their ballots marked and routed to Congressional Districts that need some padding?

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (U4c/V)

15 Anchor babies are critical to the ruling class project.

I wouldn't hold my breath, here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (BI5O2)

16 "the issue is never the issue. the issue is always the revolution."

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (VyBeY)

17 I worry about this one.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 29, 2026 05:32 PM

Pretty sure that Trump is going to lose this one. SCOTUS may try to split the baby on their decision but I doubt it. The 14th amendment is ambiguous at best and we do not have the insights of the people who wrote it immediately after the civil war. We have some writings from that period that show they were only concerned with granting citizenship for freed slaves, but that's about it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (0N4FZ)

18 I should re-register to vote in CO.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (R+iUD)

19 willowed from pevious thread.

357 linen clothes.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 29, 2026 05:33 PM (uhVAy)
Mint Julips.
Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2026 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (LHPAg)

20 10 Hollywood opinions are particularly ridiculous. Pay no attention to the fake people.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:37 PM (BFjnM)

If'n they believe in Haiti so much, why don't they invest some of their Hollywood bucks there?

Help Haiti grow.... oh.. wait... the crime and corruption is so bad the business would go under? Geee....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (mP0Kj)

21 I'm not optimistic on this one.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (viF8m)

22 Haiti: An argument for colonization

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (XeU6L)

23 12 I bet the SC punts on this one.
Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (Gqar

Think they will once again use the 'important question' dodge? Saying Congress must intervene on the question?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (mP0Kj)

24 A 28-year-old man was killed in a crocodile attack on a popular beach in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, on Friday evening, according to state authorities.

A warning sign on beach near the Marriott Resort Puerto Vallarta in a handout photo taken on Saturday, June 27, 2026, and supplied to ABC News.
Jamie Yetter
The victim, who was from Mexico, was on the beach in front of the Marriott Puerto Vallarta Resort and Spa when he was allegedly attacked by the reptile and dragged out to sea.
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Firstly, it isn't just Democrats who are out to kill you.

Secondly, don't go to Mexico. Just doesn't pay.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (BFjnM)

25 I bet the SC punts on this one.
Posted by: tubal

Yeah, I'm thinking it will be some kind of narrow ruling like an administration can ban pregnant women from travel to the US but they can't stop the attachment of citizenship to a kid born in the US by a fraudulent foreigner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (diia5)

26 Have nothing to do with Haiti would be my advice but no one asked.

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (Gqar8)

27 I mean, has Haiti really ever been great?

The revolution in 1791 was a massacre followed by a dictator and it's been downhill ever since.

How many times has the U.S. sent the military to Port-au-Prince in the past 150 years just to keep them from genociding each other?

If it's already great, then go home and make it better.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (6ydKt)

28 The president can ban “any alien or class of aliens..”

Cool, then ban all pregnant women from entering the country.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 29, 2026 05:42 PM (u73oe)

29 We have some writings from that period that show they were only concerned with granting citizenship for freed slaves, but that's about it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (0N4FZ)
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Because that was the express purpose of the amendment.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:42 PM (BFjnM)

30 4> Comey deciding that her children will live in a shithole

My guess is that the justices have life-time appointments, looked at the actuarials and figured that they would be dead before the world descends into a Thousand Years of Darkness due to the last candle of Liberty being violently snuffed out.

Their progeny be damned.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 05:42 PM (U4c/V)

31 The argument that everybody in the US is "subject to the jurisdiction" because they can be arrested for breaking US laws is ridiculous.

Can you imagine if we arrested a foreigner and we said to their home country "Shut up, you have no say, they are subject to our jurisdiction!"?

We wouldn't be getting people back from other countries either, would we? Because they were busted over there, "subject to their jurisdiction" in the same sense, right?

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (Fi81e)

32 So here's a question. American Samoans are, in actual fact, not US citizens. They are "US Nationals." Whatever the heck that means.

They cannot vote in the US, but they don't pay federal taxes (through a grant of Congress, actually. They probably would prefer to pay federal taxes: they are lower than American Samoa territorial taxes!).

So can an American Samoan come to, say, Michigan and vote? If two American Samoan people have a kid in Missouri: what is the kid: a national, or a citizen? Can a US citizen who moves to Pago Pago vote in American Samoan elections?

Some of these questions apply to Guam and Puerto Rico too, but I think American Samoa is unique.

More to the point: why should a chinese baby born in San Fran international airport just outside the baggage claim have more rights than an American Samoan?

Posted by: SimoHayha at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (/ZkOF)

33 The only thing nice I can say about those celebs is that Susan Sarandon once had nice sweaters

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (f6yx7)

34

"if you are a US citizen who has never lived in the US, you can register to vote in Colorado if your parent, legal guardian, spouse, or domestic partner was a resident of Colorado before leaving the US."

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If I described this contorted contrived "right" to a Chinese friend she'd think it was crazy. How many other states do this?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (XJ22o)

35 Will they betray us again? Or should I say, will Roberts and his mousy mini-me Barrett betray us again?

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (fZiTB)

36 Any comments on Supreme Court Overrules Humphrey’s Executor?

Posted by: tybee refugee at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (fg922)

37 7 I was surprised by the Mail in Ballot decision... wonder if they made a deal to give the Lefties Judges that if they did not bitch too much about the Birthright citizenship question.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:35 PM (mP0Kj)

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I hope you are correct on this! Gives me hope! Please!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (hzuYO)

38
Wonder if this is true?

Publius
@OcrazioCornPop
·
1h
🚨 DID YOU KNOW: On the NIGHT Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, Mitch McConnell called Trump and TOLD him 2 things:

1. "First, I’m putting out a statement that we’re filling the vacancy."

2. "You’ve GOTTA nominate Amy Coney Barrett.”

They rammed her through the Senate in under 5 weeks before the 2020 election.

Did McConnell sabotage Trump intentionally or was it just bad judgment?

Posted by: beckster at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (kX27y)

39 I bet the SC punts on this one.
Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (Gqar
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Like it's a first-down surprise.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (Fi81e)

40 We have some writings from that period that show they were only concerned with granting citizenship for freed slaves, but that's about it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (0N4FZ)
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Because that was the express purpose of the amendment.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:42 PM

And it would have been cut and dried if they actually wrote that in the amendment but they chose not to for various political reasons.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (0N4FZ)

41 Haiti: An argument for colonization
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Only a racist right-winger would say that.

Posted by: Papa Doc Duvalier at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (XeU6L)

42 Since it’s getting close, time to lay a marker on how the birthright citizenship case will go.
John Roberts will hold that there is no guarantee of birthright citizenship in the constitution, BUT that the model for dealing with it is the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, which required an act of Congress. He will further hold that the Executive does not have the power to make a change through an EO only, but that this is an exclusively legislative power.

Amy Barrett and the 3 stooges will join in the ruling.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (orF8y)

43 Jennifer Welch: “They’re so terrified that Zohran Mamdani or Barack Obama isn’t white, but they’re smarter, they’re better looking, they’re more liked. Black excellence exposes white mediocrity and they can’t stomach it”

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Oh. Well, that explains it then.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (OYBsn)

44 Did McConnell sabotage Trump intentionally or was it just bad judgment?

Posted by: beckster at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (kX27y)
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Yes.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM (Fi81e)

45 Haiti is a craphole country and a dangerous place. I buy that the Haitains fled danger. But they CAME from there, and Haitians are the reason for the danger. Its their home, they made it that way. Why bring them here??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 05:45 PM (UZCuZ)

46 Birth tourism babies automatically become American citizens, and they can vote in perpetuity in American elections without residing here, but their ballots have to be post-marked no later than election day.

Another wise and fair decision!
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at June 29, 2026 05:38 PM (ciDxf)
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When you think about it, anchor babies function as a sort of tax on working Americans. So, it's a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts, Epstein Island Visitor at June 29, 2026 05:45 PM (BFjnM)

47 The revolution in 1791 was a massacre followed by a dictator and it's been downhill ever since.

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But for the space of a year, this too is the story of the country Haiti revolted against.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2026 05:45 PM (BI5O2)

48 Jennifer Welch would be wise to NEVER comment on another’s looks.

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:45 PM (Gqar8)

49
If two American Samoan people have a kid in Missouri: what is the kid: a national, or a citizen?

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Pretty sure that's a citizen. Even if they're two Syrian terrorists whose bomb woopsied and didn't detonate and they're in jail and woops again one of them was pregnant. Birthright!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 05:46 PM (XJ22o)

50 How many times has the U.S. sent the military to Port-au-Prince in the past 150 years just to keep them from genociding each other?

If it's already great, then go home and make it better.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 29, 2026 05:41 PM (6ydKt)

Time to turn our heads and let them genocide each other. We can't stop them from doing it, but we can keep that culture out of here.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 05:46 PM (zYpTz)

51 I can't predict what the Supreme Court will do I was certain they'd never overturn Roe v Wades, so that's what my crystal ball is worth.

My guess is that there are some deals being made: you vote for this and I'll vote for that, despite how they are supposedly all about justice and the constitution. But I have a bad feeling about the birthright thing, no matter how obviously they should clearly shoot it down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 05:46 PM (UZCuZ)

52 Birthright citizenship decision has me worried, I won't lie.
KTE was born while we were H1-B, and KTY was
born while we were green card holders.
Hoping that if there are sweeping changes it will be "going forward" basis.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (eZ5tL)

53
9 Shithole or not a shithole? Depends on the narrative we need.
The Left
Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2026 05:37 PM

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Schrödinger's shithole.

Posted by: John Bolton at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (azNOR)

54 It's not a checkmate. It's gaslighting which is just one of many tools at their disposal.

(A) and (not A) - is not a flaw, it is a weapon

Posted by: banana Dream at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (3uBP9)

55 The Associated Press
@AP
Iran has been eliminated from the World Cup in heartbreaking fashion, narrowly failing to advance past the group stage in a politically charged tournament where the team played its matches amid tight restrictions imposed by the United States.

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And where was Mohammad?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (OYBsn)

56 Reading the tealeaves !

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (gAb7M)

57 Haiti: An argument for colonization
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (XeU6L)
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Action is evidently necessary and no doubt it would be a mistake to postpone it long.

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at June 29, 2026 05:48 PM (ciDxf)

58 Haiti is a beautiful country. Spectacular natural beauty. But there’s … cannibals.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at June 29, 2026 05:48 PM (qLMMh)

59 Hoping that if there are sweeping changes it will be "going forward" basis.

They can't ex post facto citizenship away, but they CAN say "from this point on, no more." I just fear they will let it lie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 05:48 PM (UZCuZ)

60 58 Haiti is a beautiful country. Spectacular natural beauty. But there’s … cannibals.

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And voodoo.

Posted by: runner at June 29, 2026 05:48 PM (gAb7M)

61 I’ve no illusions that the Court will hold with a plain reading of the 14th.

It isn’t even debatable really. Hell, the guy who wrote the Amendment explained this. Allowing for US Citizenship of illegal aliens is just legal fairy tale mumbo-jumbo by quacks, clowns wearing a robe And demanding Respect.

Some ideas are so stupid, only an intellectual could believe them. Or profess to, anyway. It’s more correctly a form of warfare. They have learned to profit from it, as well as destroy the existing political structure, so it is wildly popular.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 29, 2026 05:49 PM (2jLYo)

62 The US occupied Haiti from 1915-1934, 1994 and 2004. The Clintons occupied it after 2011. It still sucks epically

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 05:49 PM (f6yx7)

63
Any comments on Supreme Court Overrules Humphrey’s Executor?
Posted by: tybee refugee

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Well hell, it happened.

"in reaching that decision, the court overruled its 91-year-old decision in Humphrey’s Executor v. United States"

--SCOTUSBlog

We don't seem to be celebrating it much, maybe because we're prepping for the birthright blackpill.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (XJ22o)

64 Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (eZ5tL)
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You're good: in plain language, the Feds can't look back when changing a law, and this will no doubt get punted in some manner to the legislature.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (BFjnM)

65 Lets just get this over with and lose. Its clear its coming.

I think the best we can hope for is some kick the can "Congress needs to address this" ruling.

My fear is a full throated "anyone born here, including illegally to an invader, is a full fledged citizen"

It's always the liberal side that the courts are "brave" on.

Posted by: Sharpie at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (m7YgG)

66 Cannibals and Voodoo - but hey we can change them!! Just some money and a military policing presence!!

Posted by: tubal at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (Gqar8)

67 >>Haiti is a beautiful country. Spectacular natural beauty. But there’s … cannibals.

Probably wise to avoid the gang leader nicknamed "Barbecue".

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (viF8m)

68 The SC is not going to slaughter a ruling class sacred cow like this one. They're free to throw certain milk-bones to the Right, but shit like this is out-of-bounds.

Similar to Congress, with SAVE. These guys aren't about to commit treason against their class.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (BI5O2)

69 My guess is that there are some deals being made: you vote for this and I'll vote for that, despite how they are supposedly all about justice and the constitution. But I have a bad feeling about the birthright thing, no matter how obviously they should clearly shoot it down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 05:46 PM (UZCuZ)
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They are expressly not supposed to be voting.

That would mean that they have become the super legislature that invalidates the entire enterprise.

They should have no other standard than what does a proper interpretation of the laws ratified by the people or passed by the people's representatives entail or allow?

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:50 PM (Fi81e)

70 Since it’s getting close, time to lay a marker on how the birthright citizenship case will go.
John Roberts will hold that there is no guarantee of birthright citizenship in the constitution, BUT that the model for dealing with it is the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, which required an act of Congress. He will further hold that the Executive does not have the power to make a change through an EO only, but that this is an exclusively legislative power.

Amy Barrett and the 3 stooges will join in the ruling.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 29, 2026 05:44 PM

That was pretty much my thought when I said they will try to split the baby on their decision. Drop back and punt it back to congress to articulate a federal statute for anchor baby status based on the 14th amendment. As you noted they have done it before but they will most likely not do it this time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 05:51 PM (0N4FZ)

71 52 Birthright citizenship decision has me worried, I won't lie.
KTE was born while we were H1-B, and KTY was
born while we were green card holders.
Hoping that if there are sweeping changes it will be "going forward" basis.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (eZ5tL)

You were here legally, with permission, thus under the Jurisdiction of.

I would submit this is for those on Tourist Visas, or illegals, not here with a valid Work Permit or Green Card.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:51 PM (mP0Kj)

72 The Associated Press
@AP
Iran has been eliminated from the World Cup in heartbreaking fashion, narrowly failing to advance past the group stage in a politically charged tournament where the team played its matches amid tight restrictions imposed by the United States.

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And where was Mohammad?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (OYBsn)
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AP says it was Trump's fault that Iran lost.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:52 PM (BFjnM)

73 Haiti is a beautiful country. Spectacular natural beauty. But there’s … cannibals.

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And shakedowns by the police of people who look like they can afford to hand over money.

But other than cannibals and corruption, it has some nice beaches.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:52 PM (Fi81e)

74 I've seen people mention this, ATC has on the twitters, but the absence of leaking from the commies that leak stuff they don't like in order to target justices for violence means they like the direction the SCOTUS discussions are going. If the commies didn't like the decision we would have already heard about it.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 29, 2026 05:52 PM (3uBP9)

75 I am 90% sure they keep birthright as is. Roberts is a coward, Barrett is a typical bleeding heart woman.

Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2026 05:53 PM (YwEeS)

76 72 The Associated Press
@AP
Iran has been eliminated from the World Cup in heartbreaking fashion, narrowly failing to advance past the group stage in a politically charged tournament where the team played its matches amid tight restrictions imposed by the United States.

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And where was Mohammad?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:47 PM (OYBsn)
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AP says it was Trump's fault that Iran lost.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:52 PM (BFjnM)

So, another Reason to Support President Trump?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:53 PM (mP0Kj)

77 ... wonder if they made a deal to give the Lefties Judges that if they did not bitch too much about the Birthright citizenship question.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:35 PM

Or they're going to f*ck us twice in one week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 05:53 PM (kgE5c)

78 As was mentioned in an earlier thread, I have some sympathy for the SC, in that problems the legislative branch should fix gets passed on to them- the Supremes don't have to face re-election every few years, so let's make them do it. But being cowards for the most part, they respond like the cowards they are. For the most part. I expect a coward's decision, with the dissent coming from those who are not cowards. Happy to be wrong.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (QaH55)

79 That damn Musk!

https://tinyurl.com/4umcx7pn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (OYBsn)

80 42> SCOTUS's version of King Solomon's Splitting the Baby

Except SCOTUS is cool with the bloody mess. They perceive themselves as immune.

The problem though with waiting on Congress is that we know exactly what they will do — just look at SAVE America Act.

America had a good run. Glad to be a part of that tiny window of time, enjoyed by only a few hundred million people out of the billions who have suffered under tyranny throughout all of human history.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (9Hs2w)

81 The only thing nice I can say about those celebs is that Susan Sarandon once had nice sweaters
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 05:43 PM (f6yx7)

Shows you how long ago that photo was taken. They're probably down to her waist, now.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (k9OZB)

82 What are "early life benefits?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (Cqx++)

83 Did iran play against any JOOOOOS?

Posted by: torabora at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (4tOtz)

84 63 it was good, it was nice. They exempted the Fed though, the one that needs it he most.

Posted by: steevy at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (YwEeS)

85 Where can we place our bits?

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 05:55 PM (Ia/+0)

86 Babylon Bee has their SCOTUS review of the Mississippi decision up:

"Woman rules it's OK to be late"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:55 PM (Ttn/0)

87 >>We don't seem to be celebrating it much, maybe because we're prepping for the birthright blackpill.

It was ace's first post of the day.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 05:56 PM (viF8m)

88 Haiti makes me believe in demons. That place is horrific

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 05:56 PM (UZCuZ)

89 The US occupied Haiti from 1915-1934, 1994 and 2004. The Clintons occupied it after 2011. It still sucks epically
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 05:49 PM

*waves from 1994*

Now let's talk about the smell....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 05:56 PM (kgE5c)

90 Breaking NBC: Senate Ethics Committee dismisses misconduct complaint against Ruben Gallego

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 29, 2026 05:57 PM (OkYzo)

91 That damn Musk!

https://tinyurl.com/4umcx7pn
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (OYBsn)
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As usual, when PBS gets it wrong, it is 100% wring.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 29, 2026 05:57 PM (Ttn/0)

92 Zombie Woodrow Wilson
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I heard your guns, in the harbor at Vera Cruz.

Posted by: Warren Zevon at June 29, 2026 05:57 PM (XeU6L)

93 Any changes made to immigration status in past have always been "from that point forward".

No Ex Post Facto laws.

In fact, in determining someone's citizenship or legal residency status, critical moments (when they were born + where, or where they resided at a given point in time) will be compared against the citizenship/immigration law at those times.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 29, 2026 05:57 PM (O7YUW)

94 One of the facets of this that doesn't get enough play is that foreign intelligence agencies exploit this process incessantly. In 2010 ten Russian known spies entered this country and gave birth. However, they were never able to "groom" the child to get into a position to compromise because the pseudo-parents were found out and arrested.

Another case occurred in Virginia. The Valery/Smirnov Case: An undercover Russian couple living in Arlington, VA, operating as "Michael Zottoli" and "Patricia Mills". They had a 1 year old and a 3 year old at the time...but they were found out.

China has a system in place to do this, and the child grows up in China, but holds a US citizenship. When they become adults, the come here and infiltrate. Standard Chinese espionage procedure.

Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 05:57 PM (dIske)

95 Birthright citizenship decision has me worried, I won't lie.
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Not me. Judges will continue to disgrace themselves, or we'll see a modicum of move back to the Constitution.

I do not expect judges to wholesale stop disgracing themselves and their profession. That would be hoping too much.

A judge went against black-and-white of the Temporary Protection Act for Haitians. Congress, who can restrain the lower judiciary by law expressly said that the courts could not review an executive reversal of the Temporary protection, but a judge had to chime in because a Democrat sued Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 05:58 PM (Fi81e)

96 C'mon, let's be fair to Haiti -- they've only been independent for TWO HUNDReD AND TwENTY FUCKIN' YEARS and haven't had time to get their shit together yet. Also, they're burdened with COUNTLESS ACRES OF FERTILE SOIL, PLENTY OF RAINFALL AND A PERECT CLIMATE as well as ENDLESS BEAUTIFUL BEACHES AND COASTLINE, so we shouldn't expect them to make much of their dire situation.

Posted by: zombie at June 29, 2026 05:58 PM (Av6i5)

97 Shows you how long ago that photo was taken. They're probably down to her waist, now.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 29, 2026 05:54 PM (k9OZB)

Oh, she's got enough money to have them fixed when they get low.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 05:58 PM (zYpTz)

98 I made a new term:

Shitlibic Principle -

The proposition that the range of possible observations that could be made about the SCOTUS is limited by the fact that observations are only possible in the type of outcome that violent crazed shitlibs would inform observers of in the first place.

Posted by: banana Dream - Look I'm Shakespeare! at June 29, 2026 05:59 PM (3uBP9)

99 I've seen people mention this, ATC has on the twitters, but the absence of leaking from the commies that leak stuff they don't like in order to target justices for violence means they like the direction the SCOTUS discussions are going. If the commies didn't like the decision we would have already heard about it.
Posted by: banana Dream

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It's actually a smart read imo.

If the SC struck down birthright citizenship, 100% it would be leaked.

Posted by: Sharpie at June 29, 2026 05:59 PM (+8UYc)

100 If the courts let CO do that then every blue state will do it and the same foreigners will vote in every state. That one absolutely has to be stopped or it will fester into millions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 06:01 PM (n5tGW)

101 71> I would submit this is for those on Tourist Visas, or illegals, not here with a valid Work Permit or Green Card

And here is exactly why SCOTUS will keep the status quo or write some convoluted mess that is, at best, a speed bump.

The amount of weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth to get their anchor-babies sanctioned. Do babies dropped by H1B temporary "workers" get their anchor baby blessed as US citizen? Every sob story and legal argument will be pitched endlessly and pushed by every Leftist into Olympic Levels of Emotional Extortion.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 06:01 PM (nCgQz)

102 It will be 5/4 against the Republica and Thr USA is finished

Posted by: Gonzotx at June 29, 2026 06:01 PM (xoYx8)

103 What'd Humphrey do? Just sayin' some people need executin'.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 29, 2026 06:01 PM (3uBP9)

104 100% it would be leaked or the Justices had a CTJ meeting with staff and threatened them with their life if there was a leak.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 29, 2026 06:02 PM (afJtY)

105 Birthright citizenship is a scam

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 06:02 PM (Ia/+0)

106 C'mon, let's be fair to Haiti -- they've only been independent for TWO HUNDReD AND TwENTY FUCKIN' YEARS and haven't had time to get their shit together yet. Also, they're burdened with COUNTLESS ACRES OF FERTILE SOIL, PLENTY OF RAINFALL AND A PERECT CLIMATE as well as ENDLESS BEAUTIFUL BEACHES AND COASTLINE, so we shouldn't expect them to make much of their dire situation.
Posted by: zombie at June 29, 2026 05:58 PM

Except for the part when the government told them to cut down trees for firewood during the embargo in the early 90s and the idiot inhabitants cut down so much wood that the fertile soil all washed down the hills into the harbor. There are places there that look like desert due to deforestation.

As we said at the time, evacuate the population somewhere, mulch the top 3 feet of Haiti, plant trees, then send them all back after a few years to start over.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 06:03 PM (kgE5c)

107 If birthright citizenship is ended I'll solicit everyone here with a hat they don't want anymore to send it to me so I can then eat it.

Posted by: ballistic at June 29, 2026 06:04 PM (5aZAZ)

108 The amount of weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth to get their anchor-babies sanctioned. Do babies dropped by H1B temporary "workers" get their anchor baby blessed as US citizen? Every sob story and legal argument will be pitched endlessly and pushed by every Leftist into Olympic Levels of Emotional Extortion.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 06:01 PM (nCgQz)
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I agree. The Time of Bold Men has passed.

Trump may be its last gasp. Perhaps Vance. But until we suffer more for bad choices, we will comfort ourselves into rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, so to speak.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:04 PM (Fi81e)

109 The US occupied Haiti from 1915-1934, 1994 and 2004. The Clintons occupied it after 2011. It still sucks epically

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2026 05:49 PM

1994 wasn't really an occupation we just sort of let them empty the country out after the president was deposed. Whoever supported him made a mad scramble to get to the US in anything that could float. We were stationed at GITMO when the haitian boat lift happened. The Navy and Coast Guard brought over 15,000 smelly nasty haitains to GITMO that they had intercepted at sea.

We set up a tent city for them and they eventually were all able to go to the states on the taxpayers dime including the 1,500 of them that were HIV positive after a judge ruled they could no longer be held in "prison" just because they were hiv positive.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 06:04 PM (0N4FZ)

110 If birthright citizenship is ended I'll solicit everyone here with a hat they don't want anymore to send it to me so I can then eat it.

Posted by: ballistic at June 29, 2026 06:04 PM (5aZAZ)
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What about pudding cups?

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:05 PM (Fi81e)

111 I think the best we can hope for is some type of convoluted decision. I hope to be shocked and sending hats to ballistic.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (n5tGW)

112 If the theory is that the 3 are taking turns, it will probably be Gorsuch allowing birthright citizenship...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (tOcjL)

113 WHY ARE HOLLYWOOD LIBS LIKE THIS?

Low IQs and herd mentality.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (xvV+O)

114 If birthright citizenship is ended I'll solicit everyone here with a hat they don't want anymore to send it to me so I can then eat it.

Posted by: ballistic at June 29, 2026 06:04 PM (5aZAZ)
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What about pudding cups?
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:05 PM

There wouldn't be enough pudding in the world.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (kgE5c)

115 94> China infiltrates with anchor baby saboteur.

It really doesn't matter. China breached US databases ages ago. They don't even need to have an anchor baby, just add/modify records in the voting, SSI and other record databases.

Or simply bribe bureaucrats to make the child a citizen.

With nearly a dozen states refusing to show their election databases, its most likely that they are hiding a pattern of them doing this already.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (nCgQz)

116 I have a solution. All cheap birthing center motels owned by foreigners are designated ad hoc foreign soil, and you gain the citizenship of the designation of said owner.

The population of Indian citizens would skyrocket.

Posted by: Orson at June 29, 2026 06:06 PM (dIske)

117
Hate has no home here!!! Love is love!!! Free Luigi!!!

Wait, where's my Xanax?

Posted by: Amy Commie Barrett at June 29, 2026 06:07 PM (ceJ0R)

118 CNN was saying the decision is tomorrow.

But CNN.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 29, 2026 06:07 PM (Sco7b)

119 C'mon, let's be fair to Haiti -- they've only been independent for TWO HUNDReD AND TwENTY FUCKIN' YEARS and haven't had time to get their shit together yet. Also, they're burdened with COUNTLESS ACRES OF FERTILE SOIL, PLENTY OF RAINFALL AND A PERECT CLIMATE as well as ENDLESS BEAUTIFUL BEACHES AND COASTLINE, so we shouldn't expect them to make much of their dire situation.

Yeah we have to be realistic here. Haiti should be a rich paradise, not a demon-ridden hell hole with cannibals. Its not like there is no other place in the region that has figured it out and got rich and happy.

Its not the area. Its not the slavery history. Its not the color of their skin. There's something wrong with the people there; there's something evil in that culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:07 PM (UZCuZ)

120 I should re-register to vote in CO.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2026 05:39 PM (R+iUD)
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You misspelled "additionally register."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 29, 2026 06:08 PM (xvV+O)

121 "I would submit this is for those on Tourist Visas, or illegals, not here with a valid Work Permit or Green Card."
Posted by: Romeo13

Maybe SCOTUS will "split the baby", somewhere along those lines. Automatic citizenship for illegals and "birth tourism" is insane, yet congress will not address it unless we can get more MAGA, fewer socialist/globalist RINOs.

But I'd rather not have the millions of Indians or others (that are not becoming American) getting citizenship for their spawn, either.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 29, 2026 06:08 PM (vbXSk)

122 Commies have a plan.

Posted by: Accomack at June 29, 2026 06:08 PM (/Chlc)

123 Haiti has given us Barbancourt rhum. Take the rhum. Leave everything else.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 29, 2026 06:08 PM (QaH55)

124 I think the best we can hope for is some type of convoluted decision

Yeah even if they don't uphold the stupidity of birthright citizenship the writer of the amendment clearly did not mean... I think they'll punt and ban only some weird exceptions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (UZCuZ)

125 Take a look at a satellite image of Haiti and it's island neighbor.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (n5tGW)

126 The problem with Haiti is that it is full of Haitians.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (bl07w)

127 Birthright citizenship is a scam
Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 06:02 PM (Ia/+0)
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It is. Ambiguities should not be resolved as "What the text allows" but also "What is in the country's interest for it to mean?"

And I mean "interest" in the old-fashioned way. Not "Well, it is in our 'interest' to be more touchy-feely country that our abstract ideals argue we should be." But what is arguably in America's best economic and logistical interest.

I'm not against aspirations, I'm just against them in the same way that the Constitution should not be a feel-good suicide pact sense. Unless we as a people have explicitly decided this is what we are going to do.

Not some telephone game in the fucking courts!!

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (Fi81e)

128 I think Barrett fears for her children's safety, and that influences her opinions. She never should have taken the position if she spooks that easily.

Maybe we should establish a minimum age for justices. Make sure they have a few decades of experience judging cases.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (yRCXf)

129 The problem with Haiti is that it is full of Haitians.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (bl07w)
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I tried to take care of that problem.

Posted by: Baby Doc Duvalier at June 29, 2026 06:10 PM (Fi81e)

130 117
Hate has no home here!!! Love is love!!! Free Luigi!!!

Wait, where's my Xanax?
Posted by: Amy Commie Barrett at June 29, 2026 06:07 PM (ceJ0R)

Maybe she meant "Haiti" has no home here? Good sign.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:10 PM (bl07w)

131 What about pudding cups?
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:05 PM (Fi81e)
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I will eat the hats while I soak my entire lower body in a horse trough full of pudding.

Posted by: ballistic at June 29, 2026 06:11 PM (5aZAZ)

132 >>Commies have a plan.

It was announced today that a big part of that plan, Neville Singham, is being investigated with a grand jury in New York.

Really looking forward to seeing what comes from that.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 06:11 PM (viF8m)

133 Trump v. Slaughter - Sounds like an episode of GI JOE where Trump is airdropped into a Cobra compound where they are developing a giant battle robot named SLAUGHTER, and Trump whips its ass. Midway episode there's a 15 second spot on why you should look both ways before crossing the street or you'll cause a wreck like a freaking commie.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 29, 2026 06:11 PM (3uBP9)

134 This whole controversy was the basis for a "Chico and the Man" episode. Chico brought a pregnant woman across the border so her baby would be born a U.S. citizen.

I thought that was so wrongheaded. Haven't changed my opinion.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 29, 2026 06:12 PM (yRCXf)

135 "There's something wrong with the people there; there's something evil in that culture." Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Voodoo and Creole (language and tradition?) like small parts of Louisiana. Seems I recall voodoo was part of some Bond movies ... maybe it is more widespread than I know of.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 29, 2026 06:12 PM (vbXSk)

136
Birthright citizenship decision has me worried, I won't lie.

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I'm doing a little better since Trump closed up the borders and started throwing people out.

I watched a video put out by CBP of stopping an obviously pregnant woman trying to enter on a tourist visa and lying about the advanced state of her pregnancy, determining that she didn't have enough money for a hospital visit, and sending her home.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 06:12 PM (XJ22o)

137 Yeah even if they don't uphold the stupidity of birthright citizenship the writer of the amendment clearly did not mean... I think they'll punt and ban only some weird exceptions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:09 PM (UZCuZ)
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The one thing I can say about Roberts is that he rarely gives us a no-exit plan and has given us a foothold that we can, with the will, change later. Even if it can't change now.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:12 PM (Fi81e)

138 It was announced today that a big part of that plan, Neville Singham, is being investigated with a grand jury in New York.

Really looking forward to seeing what comes from that.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 06:11 PM (viF8m)
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Probably not much if the grand jury is in New York.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2026 06:13 PM (gnNyN)

139 I think Barrett fears for her children's safety, and that influences her opinions. She never should have taken the position if she spooks that easily.

Yeah she does not strike me as someone who comes to a conclusion based on rigid, cold logic

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:14 PM (UZCuZ)

140 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:15 PM (zYpTz)

141
140 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:15 PM (zYpTz)

I believe so; but it’s an interesting question.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 29, 2026 06:16 PM (orF8y)

142
Why should people on work permits get citizen babies? Those visas have to be renewed every 1-3 years. Their kids can get the citizenship of their parents.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 06:16 PM (XJ22o)

143 Yeah we have to be realistic here. Haiti should be a rich paradise, not a demon-ridden hell hole with cannibals. Its not like there is no other place in the region that has figured it out and got rich and happy.

Its not the area. Its not the slavery history. Its not the color of their skin. There's something wrong with the people there; there's something evil in that culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:07 PM

haiti shares and island with the dominican republic which is a rich and prosperous nation. Same island, same resources but two vastly different outcomes* The only real difference between the two countries is that haiti was settled by african slaves.

*cannibals not withstanding.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 06:16 PM (0N4FZ)

144 My gut feel is we lose this case. At least a 7-2 ruling.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:17 PM (l3cgK)

145 I don't see any way ACB and Roberts do the right thing with birthright citizenship.

Posted by: shenanigans at June 29, 2026 06:17 PM (ZDltW)

146 128> Maybe we should establish a minimum age for justices.

You must have a Y chromosome.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 06:17 PM (a3CJ+)

147 >>> The one thing I can say about Roberts is that he rarely gives us a no-exit plan and has given us a foothold that we can, with the will, change later. Even if it can't change now.
Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:12 PM (Fi81e)

He's a large, ungainly sack of shit, that while not immovable, requires a great effort over time to amend.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 29, 2026 06:17 PM (3uBP9)

148 Live and let Die, that was a fun one.
Roger Moore escaped from the alligator island by running across the alligators.

And Jane Seymour!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 29, 2026 06:18 PM (orF8y)

149 ACB or Biden's pick instead?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 29, 2026 06:19 PM (DZ9Lv)

150 As far as I understand it, the Dominican Republic was a slave plantation colony as well, and rebelled against the Spanish government for independence. They had to fight Haiti several times as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (UZCuZ)

151 >>Probably not much if the grand jury is in New York.

Maybe. I heard they were going after him for money laundering and likely have the proof. I doubt Xi would turn him over to the US for prosecution, he's part of the team, but we might get irrefutable proof of foreign money funding a lot of anti-American stuff in the US like BLM.

Democrats are way behind in the cash drive because a lot of the money being funneled to them and their causes is drying up.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (viF8m)

152 Democrat/Socialist/Commies never miss a trick, do they?
And you know judges see what their game is but don't give a sh*t. We are going to lose our country if this keeps up.

Posted by: Case at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (IY9No)

153 I didn't think there was much chance for Birthright Citizenship to go Trump's/Our way, but then again I was pretty sure the ballot case was going to...So I'm a bad reader of the Court..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (FtULh)

154
If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

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Adoptees can be in a very weird and difficult legal zone. I knew someone in that situation.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 06:21 PM (XJ22o)

155 I'm going to hold out for a win on anchor-baby citizenship. At least a small win.

Just 'cause.

Posted by: Axeman at June 29, 2026 06:22 PM (Fi81e)

156 That Singham dude is kinda hot.

Posted by: Amy Commie Barrett at June 29, 2026 06:22 PM (ceJ0R)

157 The Dominican Republic is no paradise. Remember when their only positive figue Big Papi was assaulted on the neach?

Good times.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 29, 2026 06:22 PM (wBaIH)

158 151 >>Probably not much if the grand jury is in New York.

Maybe. I heard they were going after him for money laundering and likely have the proof. I doubt Xi would turn him over to the US for prosecution, he's part of the team, but we might get irrefutable proof of foreign money funding a lot of anti-American stuff in the US like BLM.

Democrats are way behind in the cash drive because a lot of the money being funneled to them and their causes is drying up.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (viF8m)

Yes, cutting out one of the legs of their grift cycle (Tax money-> fake charities and NGOs -> Democrat party) can have that effect.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:22 PM (l3cgK)

159 152 Democrat/Socialist/Commies never miss a trick, do they?
And you know judges see what their game is but don't give a sh*t. We are going to lose our country if this keeps up.

Posted by: Case at June 29, 2026 06:20 PM (IY9No)

Some judges are deeply involved in the game.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (l3cgK)

160 In the next few days, we may find out if we have a country or not.

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I'm expecting we'll be fucked again vis-a-vis "Birthright Citizenship" by Benedict Roberts and "severely-conservative" Coney Island Barrett.

Posted by: ShainS at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (HjEU2)

161 >> If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?

Amy Coney Barrett could tell you for sure cause she's got a couple from Haiti.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (viF8m)

162 140 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:15 PM (zYpTz)

My son is from Guatemala. We had to jump through a lot of hoops to bring him here, and it took a fair bit of paperwork, plus being fingerprinted twice, paying $300 in crisp $20 bills to the American Consulate in Guatemala for his visa, legally adopting him again in the US, and then the granting of his Certificate of Citizenship.

We are not allowed to make a copy of that Certificate--for some reason that is illegal. Neither will they issue another one if it is destroyed somehow.

He still doesn't have a passport, because they required that we send his Certificate THROUGH THE MAIL to Louisiana for some special asshat to review it to issue a passport. They just couldn't do that in Alaska, or Wisconsin for that matter. We said NO.

If he needs one in the future, he will just have to take it in person to Louisiana or risk losing his only proof of citizenship.

He is a citizen, but you couldn't tell that from these idiots.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (bl07w)

163 Isn't last day in June deadline for Supreme Court decisions?

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 06:24 PM (Ia/+0)

164 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:15 PM
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Hubby & his XW adopted a foreign-born child in the late 1980s. They had to *apply* for him to receive U.S. citizenship.

Posted by: JQ at June 29, 2026 06:25 PM (rdVOm)

165 I don't see how they can split the baby with this ruling...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 06:25 PM (FtULh)

166 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:15 PM

We had a guy in the Navy that was adopted by US parents. I think he was canadian. This guy's family did not know they had to do paperwork after the adoption to make him a citizen and we only found out when they did a background check on him that he wasn't a US citizen. They filled out the papers and got it rushed through the state department so we didn't have to kick him out of the Navy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (0N4FZ)

167 I think there are only 2 countries in the world that do this bullcrap, one being us.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (n5tGW)

168 165 I don't see how they can split the baby with this ruling...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 06:25 PM (FtULh)

Well, you take an ax...

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (bl07w)

169 ...
We are not allowed to make a copy of that Certificate--for some reason that is illegal. Neither will they issue another one if it is destroyed somehow.
...

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (bl07w)

You should be able to petition the court or whatever Fed agency issued the certificate for certified copies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (l3cgK)

170 You should be able to petition the court or whatever Fed agency issued the certificate for certified copies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (l3cgK)

We tried that. It is illegal to do so.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:27 PM (bl07w)

171 168 165 I don't see how they can split the baby with this ruling...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2026 06:25 PM (FtULh)

Well, you take an ax...

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (bl07w)

Yes, but do you cut lengthwise or width-wise? Or will it be some Frankenstein snip and sew job?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:27 PM (l3cgK)

172 He is a citizen, but you couldn't tell that from these idiots.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:23 PM (bl07w)

Thanks for the explanation, tcn.

Yeah, I would not be letting that document out of my possession, either. Better to travel with it to wherever they demand you go.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 29, 2026 06:27 PM (zYpTz)

173 170 You should be able to petition the court or whatever Fed agency issued the certificate for certified copies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (l3cgK)

We tried that. It is illegal to do so.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:27 PM (bl07w)

Who or what agency issued the certificate?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:28 PM (l3cgK)

174 " Remember when their only positive figue Big Papi was assaulted on the neach?"

What is a neach?

And what s a leppo?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 29, 2026 06:28 PM (vbXSk)

175
I think there are only 2 countries in the world that do this bullcrap, one being us.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

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There's a handful of them, and the others are mainly shitholes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 29, 2026 06:28 PM (XJ22o)

176 You should be able to petition the court or whatever Fed agency issued the certificate for certified copies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:26 PM (l3cgK)

We tried that. It is illegal to do so.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2026 06:27 PM (bl07w)

Who or what agency issued the certificate?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:28 PM

Probably the state department.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2026 06:29 PM (0N4FZ)

177 174 " Remember when their only positive figue Big Papi was assaulted on the neach?"

What is a neach?

And what s a leppo?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 29, 2026 06:28 PM (vbXSk)

Don't worry, it's only a figue of him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:29 PM (l3cgK)

178 175> There's a handful of them, and the others are mainly shitholes.

And if Birthright remains unchanged, the US will join them as a shithole.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 29, 2026 06:30 PM (a6PrB)

179 In 11 years, the first Chinese baby that my cousin birthed will be 18. The Court better get their shit together or the Democratic Socialists will be permanently entrenched.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 29, 2026 06:30 PM (38i2N)

180 Joining late - but if Foreign nationals who happened to be birthed on US soil send in their ballots which are post marked on Election Day (because anyone can get the stamp) - what are we the US People prepared to do?

That’s is what this is coming to.

When are we ready to say No More?
And what then happens?

Posted by: CtSpursman at June 29, 2026 06:30 PM (1jbkT)

181 I don't see how they can split the baby with this ruling

Oh, something like "coming here temporarily cannot be used for citizenship but if you come here for asylum or come through the system to stay here it works"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2026 06:30 PM (UZCuZ)

182 So it's illegal for the Government to issue a copy of a document created by the Government that substantiates the Citizenship status of somebody? That...seems whack.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:31 PM (l3cgK)

183 If they meant to say that all persons born in the US were citizens, they would have just said that. Instead they added an additional qualification: "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof."

Most American Indians weren't citizens until the 1920's, despite having been born in the United States - they were citizens of the Sioux Nation or whatever.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 29, 2026 06:31 PM (aD4fx)

184 I said for awhilethey will split the baby
Those who are citizens, those who aren't
What rules God only knows, but they will try it

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 06:31 PM (Ia/+0)

185 184 I said for awhilethey will split the baby
Those who are citizens, those who aren't
What rules God only knows, but they will try it

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2026 06:31 PM (Ia/+0)

It's a tax--John Roberts, Chief Scrotum

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 29, 2026 06:32 PM (l3cgK)

186 DM sez tonite's moonrise at 7.56pm ET will be pretty. Look to the SE.

Posted by: gp at June 29, 2026 06:32 PM (Jr5Lq)

187 >>>WHY ARE HOLLYWOOD LIBS LIKE THIS?

Because they're afraid of being ousted from the tribe and cast into the outer darkness. That's why they express the curiously same opinions on every topic.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 29, 2026 06:33 PM (CwhoI)

188 140 If a citizen adopts a child, is the child granted citizenship?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Used to be they'd have to submit a naturalization application for the kid of some sort

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 29, 2026 06:33 PM (DoBxX)

189 nood

Posted by: gp at June 29, 2026 06:33 PM (Jr5Lq)

190 " I don't see how they can split the baby with this ruling..." Posted by: It's me donna

idk, maybe they say no to "birth tourism", or foreigners that come with intent to give birth and go home with their "anchor baby" to raise in their home country, but with the "US Citizen" bonus.

Less likely they could say illegals don't get the anchor baby status, only those here on green cards or other legal status. But "who knows" with Coney Island Beret and "It's a Flucking TAX" Roberts. (and maybe even Gorsuch?)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 29, 2026 06:34 PM (vbXSk)

191 I was surprised by the Mail in Ballot decision... wonder if they made a deal to give the Lefties Judges that if they did not bitch too much about the Birthright citizenship question.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2026 05:35 PM (mP0Kj)
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Those of us who rightfully castigated the federal courts for making up new laws from the bench can't complain too much when the Supremes point out that the Constitution makes clear which branch of government has determinate authority for election law. It isn't the Executive Branch.

The SC is stating that if mail in ballots cannot be counted if received after polls close on election day, then election law must contain the specific language to make that happen. Congress must pass the the Save America bill to save America.

Posted by: mrp at June 29, 2026 06:38 PM (rj6Yv)

192 6 In the next few days, we may find out if we have a country or not.

We don't.
Posted by: I used to have a different

The country I grew up in no longer exists, surveillance everywhere, Republicans look like 60's Democrats, Democrats look like communists and the communists no longer hide.

Buy ammo, you're going to need it. :/

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 29, 2026 06:40 PM (Q/FnY)

193 Trump (& SCOTUS), 2026: "Temporary means temporary, Haitians have to return home to their great, truly beautiful country."

However, Haitians in the United States hold legal presence through multiple separate and distinct immigration pathways, meaning they are not under just one blanket status. While many Haitian nationals were granted Temporary Protected Status (TPS) , a significant number entered the country legally through the Humanitarian Parole program.These two programs operate under entirely different legal frameworks and requirements.

Most Afghans who arrived in the U.S. following the fall of Kabul in 2021 were admitted under Humanitarian Parole. While some individuals later obtained Temporary Protected Status (TPS), the Department of Homeland Security officially terminated the TPS designation for Afghanistan on July 14, 2025. AND...

Ukrainians are currently under both Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and Humanitarian Parole, depending on how and when they arrived in the United States. These are two completely separate immigration programs.

They've all produced many children.

Then there are Dreamers. Michelle O addressed the issue in her speech at the Tower opening.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 29, 2026 06:42 PM (NFX2v)

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