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Let's go forward, not backward or sideways, in medicine!
On June 21, CBD wrote a short, lucid commentary on the pending approval of an mRNA vaccine for influenza: Another mRNA Vaccine? Really?
They created a disease, they lied about its origins, they used it to destroy our civil liberties and manipulate the country to be more compliant, and perhaps worst of all, they sabotaged possible treatments to favor their dangerous and expensive vaccine and treatments. So why should the American people think that all of those failings have magically disappeared, and the new and improved FDA/Pharma/Deep State is any more invested in the health and well being of America?
The same mRNA technology that is implicated in some serious side effects? The same mRNA technology that was used to create the COVID vaccine that was famously awful? And all for a disease that has shifting antigens that are very difficult to identify quickly enough to create an effective vaccine? The flu vaccine works adequately, but it is by no means impressive, and the mRNA vaccine won't change that, so why risk the documented side effects of an mRNA vaccine when the traditional vaccine is safe? Oh. Look! Money!More at the link. What will we do as Artificial Intelligence starts to make its presence known in medicine? Will people get over-excited and head off in wild directions? We can be more rational if we try, I think. On the other hand, medical progress is being made. I, for one, am grateful for much of it. Perhaps some physicians and other health care professionals could learn more about nutrition, etc. And some respect for the observations of people on the front lines is sometimes more valuable than waiting for results of a double-blind trial of a single drug agent. But recently, a friend's teenage son received a kidney transplant and a relative's baby was born with cystic fibrosis. I have learned a lot about medical advances both in drugs and in team treatment of conditions like this. Did you know that salt was important for newborns with cystic fibrosis? Bet no double-blind study was involved in that clinical change. Anyway, it's easy to lose trust in EVERYONE involve in the system. But maybe we don't have to go this far: Via Powerline, October 2022:
Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."And we don't have to reject all advances. Interesting thread in response to this statement. You have probably seen other statements like it. One topic mentioned in the thread is cystic fibrosis, where advances mean that my newborn relative can now look forward to a long life - not possible in the fairly recent past:
I find it curious that the modern medical community has cured exactly zero diseases in the last several decades.
Is there a medical advance that you particularly appreciate?The medical community has cured a mountain of diseases in the past several decades.
— Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil) June 26, 2026
Diseases cured thread🧵
In 2013, hepatitis C was cured by direct-acting antivirals. https://t.co/st8WFoKSBi pic.twitter.com/15hLFYrr3v
A Versatile and Influential Founder Benjamin Rush is sometimes called “the forgotten Founder,” but his influence on early America was anything but small. Born in 1746 in Pennsylvania, Rush became a leading physician, a civic reformer, and one of the most intellectually energetic voices of the young republic. He signed the Declaration of Independence at just thirty years old, advised presidents, and helped shape the nation’s emerging institutions in medicine, public education, and moral reform. Rush worked during a moment when the United States was trying to define not only its governing structures but also the habits and character needed for a self-governing people. His life’s work reflected a single belief: a republic depends on educated, healthy, and virtuous citizens.
As one of America’s most prominent doctors, Rush helped establish medical training in the United States and served as Surgeon General for the Continental Army. His medical practices reflected the theories of his era—some of which are now obsolete—but his commitment to scientific inquiry and public health was pioneering. During the Revolutionary War, Rush treated soldiers, wrote medical guides, and pushed for improved sanitation in military camps. He also advocated for the humane treatment of people with mental illness, arguing that compassion—not confinement—should shape care. His 1812 writings on mental health are considered foundational in the history of American psychiatry. Rush applied the same reforming energy to civic life. He opposed slavery, supported women’s education, fought for expanded access to schooling, and urged the young nation to cultivate civic virtue among its citizens.More at the link.
So my site access has been restored but my WiFi access continues to be spotty as my ocean-going continues, but it did prompt the first graphic in this week’s gallery by the producers of the Ricochet podcast, where I ended up being a mostly silent spectator this week between 10-second bursts of connection, which was about all I needed for my very few five-second bursts of lucidity. Meanwhile, I still haven’t been able to restore my old hijacked Twitter account, so I have launched a new one: @RealStevenHayward. Follow if you’re into the whole social media thing. I think I’ll be more like that RealOtherGuy and do more polemic entries than my old account, which I used mostly to tell jokes. Speaking of jokes, I’m so old I can recall the 1970s when we embraced the proposition: “That government is best which McGoverns least.” What the hell do we say now about the DSA takeover of the Democratic Party? These guys make McGovern look like a Truman Democrat. (Recall that McGovern had supported Henry Wallace in 1948.)
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Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2026 11:24 AM (Kt19C)
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Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 11:27 AM (Ia/+0)
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Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."
Nah, I'm good with throwing children into the fire of Ba'al when the king is sick.
Nah, I'm good with throwing children into the fire of Ba'al when the king is sick.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 27, 2026 11:29 AM (ndZc7)
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Yes; Benjamin Rush was a very interesting founding father. Thanks for including info about him and all you bring to this site, KT.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2026 11:32 AM (Yl2Ob)
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"I find it curious that the modern medical community has cured exactly zero diseases in the last several decades."
Ok, so Hepatitis C gets cured and now so over $1 B is needed in Africa to cure some problem
Not seeing that expenditure worth it.
Ok, so Hepatitis C gets cured and now so over $1 B is needed in Africa to cure some problem
Not seeing that expenditure worth it.
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 11:33 AM (Ia/+0)
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Always thinking.
Newsom Begs Californians to Vote “No” on Wealth Tax in Face of Mass Exodus, Pitches National Billionaires’ Tax
Newsom Begs Californians to Vote “No” on Wealth Tax in Face of Mass Exodus, Pitches National Billionaires’ Tax
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 27, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)
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Modern medicine requires a sick public if it's to thrive. The industry want's to thrive. If you cure everything the industry becomes less relevant.
Self preservation isn't just for individuals. Sad, but true.
Self preservation isn't just for individuals. Sad, but true.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2026 11:39 AM (jehhT)
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Gamers Blast Grand Theft Auto VI’s Physical Edition for Having No Physical Disc
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Apparently you buy a box that looks like it contains a disc but it has only a code allowing you to download.
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Apparently you buy a box that looks like it contains a disc but it has only a code allowing you to download.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 27, 2026 11:40 AM (ndZc7)
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Always thinking.
Newsom Begs Californians to Vote “No” on Wealth Tax in Face of Mass Exodus, Pitches National Billionaires’ Tax
We keep thinking the Dem Party is going to split, but it sounds as if some of the old-timers are being dragged along by the Socialist undertow. It will not end well for them.
Newsom Begs Californians to Vote “No” on Wealth Tax in Face of Mass Exodus, Pitches National Billionaires’ Tax
We keep thinking the Dem Party is going to split, but it sounds as if some of the old-timers are being dragged along by the Socialist undertow. It will not end well for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)
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Gamers Blast Grand Theft Auto VI’s Physical Edition for Having No Physical Disc
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Apparently you buy a box that looks like it contains a disc but it has only a code allowing you to download.
That's like your mom sending you to school with a lunchbox containing a gift card to McDonald's.
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Apparently you buy a box that looks like it contains a disc but it has only a code allowing you to download.
That's like your mom sending you to school with a lunchbox containing a gift card to McDonald's.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2026 11:41 AM (Riz8t)
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I remember seeing clips of meetings, before Covid-19 was invented, suggesting that some emergency would be necessary in order to kick-start progress into new ways of, say, making vaccines. One concern was that people would want to wait for safety data.
There was a whole exercise that mapped out Covid19 almost to a tee shortly before COVIDmania started called Event 201.
They simulated a new corona virus outbreak and ran through what would happen. The vaccine was maybe not as effect as they would like and maybe had negative side effects. "Right wing influencers" then convinced people not to take it because of exaggerations and lies. The whole thing became a muddle.
And...like I said they ran COVID19 as if the outcome of the exercise was exactly what they wanted.
There was a whole exercise that mapped out Covid19 almost to a tee shortly before COVIDmania started called Event 201.
They simulated a new corona virus outbreak and ran through what would happen. The vaccine was maybe not as effect as they would like and maybe had negative side effects. "Right wing influencers" then convinced people not to take it because of exaggerations and lies. The whole thing became a muddle.
And...like I said they ran COVID19 as if the outcome of the exercise was exactly what they wanted.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)
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>>>Covid-19 really destroyed trust in the medical field
It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (6wpGE)
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Start with Billionaires ( don't forget the Soros clan while your at it) eventually move down to the Kulaks
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (Ia/+0)
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...like CBD says: FDA/Pharma/Deep State
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:44 AM (6wpGE)
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Thanks KT!!
You are THE BEST!!
You are THE BEST!!
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 27, 2026 11:44 AM (/enuJ)
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It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m
I'd throw in most of the medical field, too. The hospital protocols for the treatment of Covid-19 were murder. Everyone who died from Covid died in a hospital.
Posted by: m
I'd throw in most of the medical field, too. The hospital protocols for the treatment of Covid-19 were murder. Everyone who died from Covid died in a hospital.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 27, 2026 11:46 AM (l26NL)
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Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."
Nah, I'm good with throwing children into the fire of Ba'al when the king is sick.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
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You ought to see our volcano.
PS: Send virgins...we're ru ning low.
Nah, I'm good with throwing children into the fire of Ba'al when the king is sick.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
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You ought to see our volcano.
PS: Send virgins...we're ru ning low.
Posted by: Hawaiian Docs at June 27, 2026 11:46 AM (2WIwB)
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7 Newsom Begs Californian
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 27, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)
noisome
adjective
having an extremely offensive smell:
noisome vapors from the smoldering waste.
• disagreeable; unpleasant: noisome scandals.
Gavin Newsom is noisome.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 27, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)
noisome
adjective
having an extremely offensive smell:
noisome vapors from the smoldering waste.
• disagreeable; unpleasant: noisome scandals.
Gavin Newsom is noisome.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:47 AM (6wpGE)
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Covid-19 really destroyed trust in the medical field
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With a heaping side-dish of Obamacare.
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With a heaping side-dish of Obamacare.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2026 11:47 AM (XeU6L)
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Testing new treatments costs a lot of money, which must somehow be recovered. Suppose they find a drug that improves heart function in clinical trials. Now they can promote the drug to cardiologists and make some money to cover the expenses and research the next thing.
Suppose also that this drug provides approximately the same benefits as taking a half-hour walk every day. As a bonus, walking doesn't compromise liver and kidney function like the drug does, and walking also has several positive effects.
The problem is that there is no incentive to compare the drug performance to daily walking. Walking will not recover the research and testing costs.
Therefore, I suspect that drugs are often promoted over non-drug treatments and there are fewer discoveries of beneficial lifestyle changes for diseases.
Suppose also that this drug provides approximately the same benefits as taking a half-hour walk every day. As a bonus, walking doesn't compromise liver and kidney function like the drug does, and walking also has several positive effects.
The problem is that there is no incentive to compare the drug performance to daily walking. Walking will not recover the research and testing costs.
Therefore, I suspect that drugs are often promoted over non-drug treatments and there are fewer discoveries of beneficial lifestyle changes for diseases.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (3XsWb)
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Now consider what we have VAERS. There was a swine flu outbreak in the 70s that saw a rushed vaccine to treat it that had serious side effects including...death.
Because it was hard to isolate the cause of the health issues caused by the vaccine from individual doctor officers the government created VAERS to track vaccine reactions all over the country. And...VAERS was considered a useful resource for years
And then the rushed COVID vaccine came out and the reports started coming in just as the system was designed to capture. And the numbers were absurd. There were something like 10000X times as many COVID vaccine negative reactions in 6 months then all the vaccine adverse reactions the system had tracked in 30 years.
Because it was hard to isolate the cause of the health issues caused by the vaccine from individual doctor officers the government created VAERS to track vaccine reactions all over the country. And...VAERS was considered a useful resource for years
And then the rushed COVID vaccine came out and the reports started coming in just as the system was designed to capture. And the numbers were absurd. There were something like 10000X times as many COVID vaccine negative reactions in 6 months then all the vaccine adverse reactions the system had tracked in 30 years.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (6wpGE)
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The problem is that there is no incentive to compare the drug performance to daily walking. Walking will not recover the research and testing costs.
I read an anecdote that all the longevity drugs that have come out in the last few years pale in comparison to getting exercise, staying thin, and building some muscle mass.
I read an anecdote that all the longevity drugs that have come out in the last few years pale in comparison to getting exercise, staying thin, and building some muscle mass.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:53 AM (2YhKe)
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Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."
So, bleeding will make a comeback? I have an idea - allow me to release the students' bad humors. That should get their attentions.
So, bleeding will make a comeback? I have an idea - allow me to release the students' bad humors. That should get their attentions.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:53 AM (+/hEQ)
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22 There was a swine flu outbreak in the 70s that saw a rushed vaccine to treat it that had serious side effects including...death.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)
I lived through this, and I was not required to get the shot and I thought long and hard and I did not get the shot. And then people started dying from the shot.
When Covid came around, I said no so fast (albeit quietly) and I suffered many, many bad consequences from employers and friends. But not health-related!
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)
I lived through this, and I was not required to get the shot and I thought long and hard and I did not get the shot. And then people started dying from the shot.
When Covid came around, I said no so fast (albeit quietly) and I suffered many, many bad consequences from employers and friends. But not health-related!
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:53 AM (6wpGE)
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The prayer list makes me sad.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:53 AM (2YhKe)
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Another problem with all this is the government distorts the market.
If people pay for their own healthcare, healthcare companies will design their services to meet the patients needs because if they don't the patients will go elsewhere.
If the government is paying though their incentives become doing what the government wants - paperwork and keeping costs down.
For those over a certain age I'm sure you've noticed healthcare has changed from your doctor trying to improve your health to a medical office trying to figure out billing and filing massive amounts of paperwork right?
If people pay for their own healthcare, healthcare companies will design their services to meet the patients needs because if they don't the patients will go elsewhere.
If the government is paying though their incentives become doing what the government wants - paperwork and keeping costs down.
For those over a certain age I'm sure you've noticed healthcare has changed from your doctor trying to improve your health to a medical office trying to figure out billing and filing massive amounts of paperwork right?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
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F*ck cancer.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (2YhKe)
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I recall that the 2024-2025 flu shot had a negative efficacy. Shot recipients were 27% more likely to contract flu.
I wonder how the 2025-2026 flu shot performed?
As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless. And there have been studies that suggest that a flu shot recipient is more likely to suffer a range of respiratory illnesses than a non-recipient, I guess due to distracting/overloading the immune system.
I wonder how the 2025-2026 flu shot performed?
As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless. And there have been studies that suggest that a flu shot recipient is more likely to suffer a range of respiratory illnesses than a non-recipient, I guess due to distracting/overloading the immune system.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
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Covid-19 really destroyed trust in the medical field
Truth.
I no longer trust it at all. And the First Lady went through cancer treatments. She's told she's 'cured.'
I still do not trust them.
Truth.
I no longer trust it at all. And the First Lady went through cancer treatments. She's told she's 'cured.'
I still do not trust them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (2YhKe)
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As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless. And there have been studies that suggest that a flu shot recipient is more likely to suffer a range of respiratory illnesses than a non-recipient, I guess due to distracting/overloading the immune system.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
Never received one.
Never will.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
Never received one.
Never will.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:55 AM (2YhKe)
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The Japanese had some weird stories about the Tanuki (Racoon Dog), including an ability to take its scrotum and stretch out a tent with it...
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 11:55 AM (l3cgK)
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31 And that 27% -- I wonder if the difference would be even greater if they compared those receiving the current shot to those who had never had a flu shot.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (pAWWf)
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pronounced like moisten
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
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I lived through this, and I was not required to get the shot and I thought long and hard and I did not get the shot. And then people started dying from the shot.
When Covid came around, I said no so fast (albeit quietly) and I suffered many, many bad consequences from employers and friends. But not health-related!
And a critical part of this. Originally the government claimed the clot shot stopped the spread of COVID. Biden said so on national TV when he mandated it.
Shortly thereafter though the overwhelming amounts of data showed it did no such thing. And overnight the claim the clot shot stopped COVID became misinformation it just reduced the severity.
Well, assume for a moment the government was acting honestly they honestly really learned their previous statements were incorrect. This should have immediately led to the end of the mandates. If the shot doesn't stop the spread there is NO reason or legal basis to mandate it whatsoever. And yet the mandates persisted
When Covid came around, I said no so fast (albeit quietly) and I suffered many, many bad consequences from employers and friends. But not health-related!
And a critical part of this. Originally the government claimed the clot shot stopped the spread of COVID. Biden said so on national TV when he mandated it.
Shortly thereafter though the overwhelming amounts of data showed it did no such thing. And overnight the claim the clot shot stopped COVID became misinformation it just reduced the severity.
Well, assume for a moment the government was acting honestly they honestly really learned their previous statements were incorrect. This should have immediately led to the end of the mandates. If the shot doesn't stop the spread there is NO reason or legal basis to mandate it whatsoever. And yet the mandates persisted
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:57 AM (sKqQm)
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34 The Japanese had some weird stories about the Tanuki (Racoon Dog), including an ability to take its scrotum and stretch out a tent with it...
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
Pffffft. Big deal. I can cover a Costco with mine.
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
Pffffft. Big deal. I can cover a Costco with mine.
Posted by: Inflatable scrotum man at June 27, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
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36 pronounced like moisten
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
Context matters, e.g. a moist cake...
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
Context matters, e.g. a moist cake...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 11:57 AM (l3cgK)
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38 34 The Japanese had some weird stories about the Tanuki (Racoon Dog), including an ability to take its scrotum and stretch out a tent with it...
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
Pffffft. Big deal. I can cover a Costco with mine.
Posted by: Inflatable scrotum man at June 27, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
Furry inflation has nothing to do with Biden's economic policies...
https://tinyurl.com/yvz4nhbw
Pffffft. Big deal. I can cover a Costco with mine.
Posted by: Inflatable scrotum man at June 27, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
Furry inflation has nothing to do with Biden's economic policies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 11:58 AM (l3cgK)
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As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless.
The problem is the flu mutates quickly. So they identify a few variants and make a vaccine for them but by the time you encounter the virus in the wild it has changed significantly from the one you were vaccinated against.
The problem is the flu mutates quickly. So they identify a few variants and make a vaccine for them but by the time you encounter the virus in the wild it has changed significantly from the one you were vaccinated against.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:58 AM (sKqQm)
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36 pronounced like moisten
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
Yes, it's a funny thing!
Posted by: m
Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
Yes, it's a funny thing!
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (6wpGE)
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The problem is that there is no incentive to compare the drug performance to daily walking. Walking will not recover the research and testing costs.
Therefore, I suspect that drugs are often promoted over non-drug treatments and there are fewer discoveries of beneficial lifestyle changes for diseases.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (3XsWb)
FDA used to have a rule that if a new med did not preform better than a current med then the new med was not given approval. That rule went away about the same time the pharma companies started paying for their own testsing.
Therefore, I suspect that drugs are often promoted over non-drug treatments and there are fewer discoveries of beneficial lifestyle changes for diseases.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:49 AM (3XsWb)
FDA used to have a rule that if a new med did not preform better than a current med then the new med was not given approval. That rule went away about the same time the pharma companies started paying for their own testsing.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (rbvCR)
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"Is there a medical advance that you particularly appreciate"
Well, over the last decade I had a heart valve repair, and cataract lens replacements, both of which have improved my life, both of which were unknown just a few decades ago.
Well, over the last decade I had a heart valve repair, and cataract lens replacements, both of which have improved my life, both of which were unknown just a few decades ago.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (j7INY)
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Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."
F*ck right off with that noise.
F*ck right off with that noise.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (2YhKe)
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44 "Is there a medical advance that you particularly appreciate"
Well, over the last decade I had a heart valve repair, and cataract lens replacements, both of which have improved my life, both of which were unknown just a few decades ago.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (j7INY)
Very cool.
Well, over the last decade I had a heart valve repair, and cataract lens replacements, both of which have improved my life, both of which were unknown just a few decades ago.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at June 27, 2026 11:59 AM (j7INY)
Very cool.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (6wpGE)
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BTW, Veteran's Day is also Giant Furry Inflation day...take that for what it's worth...
https://tinyurl.com/2fnsv92s
https://tinyurl.com/2fnsv92s
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (l3cgK)
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@m: Go look back at the tech thread, last comment. I answered your question about the egg joke.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (O7YUW)
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That rule went away about the same time the pharma companies started paying for their own testsing.
Several of the moderna/pfizer testers came forward to claim the results of their testing had been faked.
The FNM dismissed them as lying cranks obviously the clot shot 100% stopped the spread just as the data showed!
And then it came out the claim the clot shot stopped the spread was completely wrong...but the FNM kept claiming those whistleblowers were lying...
Several of the moderna/pfizer testers came forward to claim the results of their testing had been faked.
The FNM dismissed them as lying cranks obviously the clot shot 100% stopped the spread just as the data showed!
And then it came out the claim the clot shot stopped the spread was completely wrong...but the FNM kept claiming those whistleblowers were lying...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (sKqQm)
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I still do not trust them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
Along with Covid, the many, many X posts I see of medical professionals wishing death on me are another.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
Along with Covid, the many, many X posts I see of medical professionals wishing death on me are another.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (l26NL)
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Never received one.
Never will.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:55 AM (2YhKe)
I considered it when shots were being offered at my workplace, but I had observed that whenever any of my colleagues came down with flu, they all said the same thing: "But I got my flu shot!"
Meanwhile, I've had the flu once, in 1999. I suspect I have more effective resistance than anyone who has gotten shots.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Never will.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 11:55 AM (2YhKe)
I considered it when shots were being offered at my workplace, but I had observed that whenever any of my colleagues came down with flu, they all said the same thing: "But I got my flu shot!"
Meanwhile, I've had the flu once, in 1999. I suspect I have more effective resistance than anyone who has gotten shots.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
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BTW, Veteran's Day is also Giant Furry Inflation day...take that for what it's worth...
https://tinyurl.com/2fnsv92s
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (l3cgK)
Further celebrations dedicated to the broken in society. Wonderful....
https://tinyurl.com/2fnsv92s
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (l3cgK)
Further celebrations dedicated to the broken in society. Wonderful....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (2YhKe)
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McGovern was a fool, but an honest fool. (Unlike the current crop). I recall late in life, after running an inn or something, he said he finally understood why people complained about government being far too restrictive and controlling. He had never considered it before he actually tried running his own business.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (O+ktY)
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As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless. And there have been studies that suggest that a flu shot recipient is more likely to suffer a range of respiratory illnesses than a non-recipient, I guess due to distracting/overloading the immune system.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
This sort of mal-information is what causes Pharma stocks to lose value.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
This sort of mal-information is what causes Pharma stocks to lose value.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:02 PM (rbvCR)
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Meanwhile, I've had the flu once, in 1999. I suspect I have more effective resistance than anyone who has gotten shots.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
I've been pretty sick a few times. Don't know if it was the flu or not, but usually it was a 24 to 36 hour thing that had me relatively miserable during that time. I recover. I go on with life.
Although, I do believe I had covid before covid was cool. Took 2 months for the cough to go away.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
I've been pretty sick a few times. Don't know if it was the flu or not, but usually it was a 24 to 36 hour thing that had me relatively miserable during that time. I recover. I go on with life.
Although, I do believe I had covid before covid was cool. Took 2 months for the cough to go away.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (2YhKe)
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>>The problem is that there is no incentive to compare the drug performance to daily walking. Walking will not recover the research and testing costs.
I read an anecdote that all the longevity drugs that have come out in the last few years pale in comparison to getting exercise, staying thin, and building some muscle mass.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:51 AM
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The question then becomes, why are the doctors we interact with being incentivized to push drugs on us rather than lifestyle changes?
I read an anecdote that all the longevity drugs that have come out in the last few years pale in comparison to getting exercise, staying thin, and building some muscle mass.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:51 AM
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The question then becomes, why are the doctors we interact with being incentivized to push drugs on us rather than lifestyle changes?
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (1Au9i)
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I would say, based on what I saw, the COVID vax did have some degree of reducing COVID symptoms. My FIL was repeated exposed to it, yet the worst he got was equivalent to a runny nose, while the rest of us felt like we got deathly sick. My wife, despite cancer treatments and me, despite my immunosuppressed body didn't die. Both kids caught it, but younger one seemed to get more sick (he wasn't vaxxed; older one made a decision as an adult to vax). Now, does that merit the damage caused by all the side effects? Probably not.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
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So, bleeding will make a comeback? I have an idea - allow me to release the students' bad humors. That should get their attentions.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Invest in fleam futures?
Posted by: Tonypete
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Invest in fleam futures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2026 12:04 PM (XeU6L)
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The problem is the flu mutates quickly. So they identify a few variants and make a vaccine for them but by the time you encounter the virus in the wild it has changed significantly from the one you were vaccinated against.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:58 AM (sKqQm)
Yes, that's the standard explanation, but it doesn't explain negative efficacy. Why would a person be more likely to get flu if they've had the shot?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 11:58 AM (sKqQm)
Yes, that's the standard explanation, but it doesn't explain negative efficacy. Why would a person be more likely to get flu if they've had the shot?
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:04 PM (pAWWf)
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Pooky's VA psych med manager is a huge advocate of things that don't involve medication, which is surprising. He also likes to take it slow, which is a huge relief because a lot of Pooky's problems stem from military doctors who didn't know what the word "titration" meant.
Posted by: pookysgirl, enjoying a lazy Saturday for once at June 27, 2026 12:05 PM (Wt5PA)
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Moisture laden lieder hosen
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2026 12:05 PM (eX+bj)
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Have you ever noticed that many, many folks have a strong reaction to the word 'moist'?
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
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*sadz*
It's interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2026 11:56 AM (+/hEQ)
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*sadz*
Posted by: Moist von Lipwig at June 27, 2026 12:05 PM (amcLV)
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Meanwhile, I've had the flu once, in 1999. I suspect I have more effective resistance than anyone who has gotten shots.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
I realized that every year, just about, the call went out for everyone to get that flu shot to be safe, and then every year, just about, we were told that darnit they just got the wrong strain for the flu which is why everyone seemed to catch it, and then they celebrated each year that more people got the shot than ever.
I realized that increasing the number of shots in the arm was more important than preventing the flu, and they could be shooting up everyone with transmission fluid and still claim a success
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
I realized that every year, just about, the call went out for everyone to get that flu shot to be safe, and then every year, just about, we were told that darnit they just got the wrong strain for the flu which is why everyone seemed to catch it, and then they celebrated each year that more people got the shot than ever.
I realized that increasing the number of shots in the arm was more important than preventing the flu, and they could be shooting up everyone with transmission fluid and still claim a success
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:06 PM (rbvCR)
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58 So, bleeding will make a comeback? I have an idea - allow me to release the students' bad humors. That should get their attentions.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Invest in fleam futures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2026 12:04 PM (XeU6L)
Anal insufflation for drowning victims. Yes Please!
Posted by: Tonypete
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Invest in fleam futures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2026 12:04 PM (XeU6L)
Anal insufflation for drowning victims. Yes Please!
Posted by: Don Lemon at June 27, 2026 12:07 PM (l3cgK)
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The question then becomes, why are the doctors we interact with being incentivized to push drugs on us rather than lifestyle changes?
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (1Au9i)
I think doctors have a blind spot. They keep up with the research, but the research presented to them is all about !look at these cool new drugs! It's significantly more work to look outside their professional publications.
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (1Au9i)
I think doctors have a blind spot. They keep up with the research, but the research presented to them is all about !look at these cool new drugs! It's significantly more work to look outside their professional publications.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:07 PM (pAWWf)
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Meanwhile, I've had the flu once, in 1999. I suspect I have more effective resistance than anyone who has gotten shots.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
For a time I would keep notes on it with my sister in law, who was a huge believer in flu shots. (She has since psssed away, which is a long story. She trusted doctors who failed her, but that’s a long story)
Anyway, for 6 years she got flu shots every year, I got none. She got the flu 3 times, I got it 3 times. She said those were the years they picked the wrong strain. I said that it tells me that it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference whether you get the shot or not.
So I decided against flu shots and I've been healthier than my vaccinated buddies.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (pAWWf)
For a time I would keep notes on it with my sister in law, who was a huge believer in flu shots. (She has since psssed away, which is a long story. She trusted doctors who failed her, but that’s a long story)
Anyway, for 6 years she got flu shots every year, I got none. She got the flu 3 times, I got it 3 times. She said those were the years they picked the wrong strain. I said that it tells me that it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference whether you get the shot or not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:08 PM (O+ktY)
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I would say, based on what I saw, the COVID vax did have some degree of reducing COVID symptoms. My FIL was repeated exposed to it, yet the worst he got was equivalent to a runny nose, while the rest of us felt like we got deathly sick. My wife, despite cancer treatments and me, despite my immunosuppressed body didn't die. Both kids caught it, but younger one seemed to get more sick (he wasn't vaxxed; older one made a decision as an adult to vax). Now, does that merit the damage caused by all the side effects? Probably not.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
One group that didn't seem to get serious COVID was smokers. Nicotine seems to block the inflammatory cascade.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
One group that didn't seem to get serious COVID was smokers. Nicotine seems to block the inflammatory cascade.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:08 PM (rbvCR)
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One group that didn't seem to get serious COVID was smokers. Nicotine seems to block the inflammatory cascade.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:08 PM (rbvCR)
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Or they built up an immunity to having crud in their lungs.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:08 PM (rbvCR)
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Or they built up an immunity to having crud in their lungs.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 27, 2026 12:10 PM (amcLV)
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On that RaccoonDog, not surprised Japanese believe in weird paranormal
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:10 PM (Ia/+0)
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Medical students at the University of Minnesota must now take an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."
I just assume these assholes are commie agents of death.
I just assume these assholes are commie agents of death.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 27, 2026 12:11 PM (H/+a9)
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Or they built up an immunity to having crud in their lungs.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 27, 2026 12:10 PM (amcLV)
When my allergies got really bad, from mold and house dust especially when cleaning mildewy dusty houses. I had to take smoke breaks because a Camel would knock down the tightness in my lungs from the allergic response. Which is inflammation in other words.
Nicotine does knock down inflammatory response
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 27, 2026 12:10 PM (amcLV)
When my allergies got really bad, from mold and house dust especially when cleaning mildewy dusty houses. I had to take smoke breaks because a Camel would knock down the tightness in my lungs from the allergic response. Which is inflammation in other words.
Nicotine does knock down inflammatory response
Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (rbvCR)
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Raccoon Dog, once suspected as the source of Covid-19
Look, a-holes.
About all you can say about us is that we have huge balls, like to get drunk, and will fuck up your garden or farm land.
That's it. Now, sayonara!
Raccoon Dog, once suspected as the source of Covid-19
Look, a-holes.
About all you can say about us is that we have huge balls, like to get drunk, and will fuck up your garden or farm land.
That's it. Now, sayonara!
Posted by: The Tanukis Reply at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (iJfKG)
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Both parents in their 80s received "vaccine" in NJ. A little over a year later, Dad died of multiple myeloma turbo cancer after a laryngectomy failed to stop the spread of another type, and Mom died of heart valve issues and dementia.
I told them not to do it, but all their friends were doing it.
I told them not to do it, but all their friends were doing it.
Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (P1gLH)
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Pooky's VA psych med manager is a huge advocate of things that don't involve medication, which is surprising. He also likes to take it slow, which is a huge relief because a lot of Pooky's problems stem from military doctors who didn't know what the word "titration" meant.
Posted by: pookysgirl, enjoying a lazy Saturday for once at June 27, 2026 12:05 PM (Wt5PA)
A friend's VA doctor had him on something like 18 different medications for various things. He changed to a new doctor, not sure if it's VA, but he removed several of those meds. They're now messing with his psych meds and it has him relatively screwed up.
I hate medications for mental issues. Even he's found that therapy works, having spent time with the horses and other non profit orgs helping our military vets.
But, they keep insisting on drugs. So, there he is.
Posted by: pookysgirl, enjoying a lazy Saturday for once at June 27, 2026 12:05 PM (Wt5PA)
A friend's VA doctor had him on something like 18 different medications for various things. He changed to a new doctor, not sure if it's VA, but he removed several of those meds. They're now messing with his psych meds and it has him relatively screwed up.
I hate medications for mental issues. Even he's found that therapy works, having spent time with the horses and other non profit orgs helping our military vets.
But, they keep insisting on drugs. So, there he is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (2YhKe)
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The story of the flu shot is ridiculous. Flu is a serious risk for senior citizens, so they started recommending flu shots to older adults. But they found that this approach did not lower the incidence of flu in the older population. In other words, the shots didn't work. Their solution was to have caregivers take the shots, and then family members, and then the general population, with the hope that all these people would then not expose older people to flu. Somehow a non-effective shot would become effective if everybody took it.
Silly and irrational.
Silly and irrational.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:14 PM (pAWWf)
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Covid-19 really destroyed trust in the medical field
It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m
Disagree.
I had not been an RN very long when the wuflu was released, during my schooling, Evidence Based Practice was stressed constantly. I saw no EBP used by the Nursing PTB. In fact it was the opposite.
It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m
Disagree.
I had not been an RN very long when the wuflu was released, during my schooling, Evidence Based Practice was stressed constantly. I saw no EBP used by the Nursing PTB. In fact it was the opposite.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (B0dAE)
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*chants and shakes feathers at broken leg with a compound fracture*
It's not working!!!! Ow! Ouch!!!
*cries*
Why won't Mother Gaia or JubJub the Mosquito God heal me? Whyyyyy?!?!?!
*chants and shakes feathers at broken leg with a compound fracture*
It's not working!!!! Ow! Ouch!!!
*cries*
Why won't Mother Gaia or JubJub the Mosquito God heal me? Whyyyyy?!?!?!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (iJfKG)
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Disagree.
I had not been an RN very long when the wuflu was released, during my schooling, Evidence Based Practice was stressed constantly. I saw no EBP used by the Nursing PTB. In fact it was the opposite.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (B0dAE)
But you guys did make some pretty sweet dancing on TikTok videos.
Disagree.
I had not been an RN very long when the wuflu was released, during my schooling, Evidence Based Practice was stressed constantly. I saw no EBP used by the Nursing PTB. In fact it was the opposite.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (B0dAE)
But you guys did make some pretty sweet dancing on TikTok videos.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:17 PM (2YhKe)
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The question then becomes, why are the doctors we interact with being incentivized to push drugs on us rather than lifestyle changes?
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (1Au9i)
I believe that it's a three-fold issue.
First, they don't believe that people will change their lifestyle if they can just take a pill and get - roughly - the same benefit (according to the tests which get run).
Second, doctors no longer have their own practices. They're part of doctor corporations which promulgate "standards of care" that they're required to follow.
Third, doctors are hammers, drugs are nails, lifestyle change is a screw.
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 27, 2026 12:03 PM (1Au9i)
I believe that it's a three-fold issue.
First, they don't believe that people will change their lifestyle if they can just take a pill and get - roughly - the same benefit (according to the tests which get run).
Second, doctors no longer have their own practices. They're part of doctor corporations which promulgate "standards of care" that they're required to follow.
Third, doctors are hammers, drugs are nails, lifestyle change is a screw.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2026 12:17 PM (ExV1e)
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*chants and shakes feathers at broken leg with a compound fracture*
It's not working!!!! Ow! Ouch!!!
*cries*
Why won't Mother Gaia or JubJub the Mosquito God heal me? Whyyyyy?!?!?!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (iJfKG)
Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
*chants and shakes feathers at broken leg with a compound fracture*
It's not working!!!! Ow! Ouch!!!
*cries*
Why won't Mother Gaia or JubJub the Mosquito God heal me? Whyyyyy?!?!?!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:16 PM (iJfKG)
Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (2YhKe)
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Among my family and friends, only the Covid-vaccinated got Covid more than once, and only the vaccinated got long Covid.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (pAWWf)
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Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
I'm very disappointed in the decision for treatment of Swayback Horses is to shoot.
We wouldn't have the hilarity of The 3 Stooges if they shot all the Swaybacks.
Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
I'm very disappointed in the decision for treatment of Swayback Horses is to shoot.
We wouldn't have the hilarity of The 3 Stooges if they shot all the Swaybacks.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (2YhKe)
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Kindltot
I saw your comment in the last thread about no rap songs in the top 40 for the first time in decades. Mike Benz has been saying for a long time that the CIA uses the music industry to help shape narratives and behavior.
I saw your comment in the last thread about no rap songs in the top 40 for the first time in decades. Mike Benz has been saying for a long time that the CIA uses the music industry to help shape narratives and behavior.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2026 12:20 PM (viF8m)
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I believe 2 enormous studies (meaning the data used was enormous, adding to statistical significance) were done in the UK and Netherlands of flu shot efficacy. From memory, but I think both morbidity (getting the bug) and mortality (buying the farm) were examined. There wasn't strong evidence that the shot changed outcomes.
The dataset was massive because of the near-universal use of flu shots for the older demo over several decades.
Anyway. One would think such studies would have an impact on policy and behavior. But perhaps I'm forgetting some aspect that showed some possible benefit.
The dataset was massive because of the near-universal use of flu shots for the older demo over several decades.
Anyway. One would think such studies would have an impact on policy and behavior. But perhaps I'm forgetting some aspect that showed some possible benefit.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2026 12:20 PM (U/Byj)
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But you guys did make some pretty sweet dancing on TikTok videos.
Posted by: Sponge
It wasn't me HONEST!
But you guys did make some pretty sweet dancing on TikTok videos.
Posted by: Sponge
It wasn't me HONEST!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 27, 2026 12:20 PM (B0dAE)
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83
Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
I'm very disappointed in the decision for treatment of Swayback Horses is to shoot.
We wouldn't have the hilarity of The 3 Stooges if they shot all the Swaybacks.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (2YhKe)
https://tinyurl.com/42nx2em3
Equine medicine...
https://tinyurl.com/4z2uvj2z
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
I'm very disappointed in the decision for treatment of Swayback Horses is to shoot.
We wouldn't have the hilarity of The 3 Stooges if they shot all the Swaybacks.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (2YhKe)
https://tinyurl.com/42nx2em3
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:21 PM (l3cgK)
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Among my family and friends, only the Covid-vaccinated got Covid more than once, and only the vaccinated got long Covid.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (pAWWf)
"You MUST get vaccinated to stop the spread!"
"You MUST get vaccinated to lessen the symptoms and not kill grandma!"
"You MUST get vaccinated to shorten the illness time!"
"You MUST get vaccinated because we said so!"
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (pAWWf)
"You MUST get vaccinated to stop the spread!"
"You MUST get vaccinated to lessen the symptoms and not kill grandma!"
"You MUST get vaccinated to shorten the illness time!"
"You MUST get vaccinated because we said so!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:21 PM (2YhKe)
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But, they keep insisting on drugs. So, there he is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (2YhKe)
I'm sorry. I knew we'd found a gem in Pooky's psych med manager, but this makes me value him even more. He had a VA psych case worker that was good too, and he "graduated" from needing her with the knowledge that he can ask for one anytime he feels the need again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (2YhKe)
I'm sorry. I knew we'd found a gem in Pooky's psych med manager, but this makes me value him even more. He had a VA psych case worker that was good too, and he "graduated" from needing her with the knowledge that he can ask for one anytime he feels the need again.
Posted by: pookysgirl, enjoying a lazy Saturday for once at June 27, 2026 12:22 PM (Wt5PA)
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I also noticed that RSV became more prevalent after the Covid shots came out. Before that, I hadn't known anyone who got RSV.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:22 PM (pAWWf)
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Covid did more than affect the practice of medicine. It literally changed everyday life. Workers no longer going to downtown offices, commuting, buying lunch in city restaurants, buying professional clothing to wear. This has not returned. People started ordering in, groceries, meals, streaming entertainment. No more impulse buys at the store, no more fast food drive ups, no more Mall shopping. No taking a date to the movies or children's matinees.
The economic fallout is just beginning with empty office buildings, movie theatres and mall stores. Everywhere I look there are For Lease signs.
Covid changed everything.
The economic fallout is just beginning with empty office buildings, movie theatres and mall stores. Everywhere I look there are For Lease signs.
Covid changed everything.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2026 12:23 PM (kJmSS)
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I had to go to LA for business during COVID. It was the fasted trip I've ever made and the only trip where I didn't hit stop-and-go traffic on the freeway.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:25 PM (l3cgK)
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Covid changed everything.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2026 12:23 PM (kJmSS)
By design.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2026 12:23 PM (kJmSS)
By design.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:25 PM (2YhKe)
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Anyway. One would think such studies would have an impact on policy and behavior. But perhaps I'm forgetting some aspect that showed some possible benefit.
The CDC keeps publishing numbers most years showing the flu shot significantly reduces your risk of getting the flu and reduces the symptoms but the most objective studies are the ones you are noting which show no significant improvement in mortality.
The efficiency numbers then either indicate a really weird behavior where it only stops people that won't die from the flu from getting it or way more likely its bad methodology.
I will note personally more people get the flu in my circle of friends since the mass introduction of the flu vax, and the severity is worse but that is just an anecdote and perhaps more notably the increase in international travel over that same time period should be examined as the most significant issue in regards to the spread of the flu
The CDC keeps publishing numbers most years showing the flu shot significantly reduces your risk of getting the flu and reduces the symptoms but the most objective studies are the ones you are noting which show no significant improvement in mortality.
The efficiency numbers then either indicate a really weird behavior where it only stops people that won't die from the flu from getting it or way more likely its bad methodology.
I will note personally more people get the flu in my circle of friends since the mass introduction of the flu vax, and the severity is worse but that is just an anecdote and perhaps more notably the increase in international travel over that same time period should be examined as the most significant issue in regards to the spread of the flu
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)
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I highly recommend that everyone watch the movie: Citizen Vigilante that Musk posted on X. An excellent movie and a possible look into the future.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (7aGEe)
96
Still waiting for a tell all book how the Covid plot was cooked up to destroy the country. Shut it all down, kill of hundred thousand, set up a puppet to run the country
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)
97
Two people were particularly ugly about us not getting Covid shots. One is dead (blood clot) and the other is now under the care of a cardiologist.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:27 PM (pAWWf)
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7> Demon Cantillionaire† advocates national billionaire tax
Some people are unknowingly eager to do President Bukele's work for him.
† https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-cantillion-effect
Some people are unknowingly eager to do President Bukele's work for him.
† https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-cantillion-effect
Posted by: Community Notes at June 27, 2026 12:27 PM (a4flb)
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>>I had to go to LA for business during COVID. It was the fasted trip I've ever made and the only trip where I didn't hit stop-and-go traffic on the freeway.
I dragged a boat from RI to Port St Lucie during the lockdowns. It was amusing traveling through blue states to red states where rules were different. Had dinner in a pub in FL that was packed and unmasked.
What a sick joke that time was.
I dragged a boat from RI to Port St Lucie during the lockdowns. It was amusing traveling through blue states to red states where rules were different. Had dinner in a pub in FL that was packed and unmasked.
What a sick joke that time was.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2026 12:27 PM (viF8m)
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There is a video of a panel of epidemiologists at a conference, from some time in the 2000s, discussing possible public affairs approaches to some contingency like C19 (epidemic with above-average mortality).
There was a uniform (and proper) recognition by all panel members there were no actual policies or "mitigation" that could materially affect the course of events - it was entirely a question of (my phrasing) "how do we calm an illiterate and panicked public?".
Not in a cynical or diabolical sense. Just a recognition that the public would expect "solutions", there weren't any (other than watching the epidemic run its course along the Gompertz curve), and the profession had to be ready to say *something* reassuring.
These sorts of epidemiologists and actual science existed in 2020, but they were suppressed or self-muzzled. So, just confirming the general thesis here, but in a way making it even more outrageous.
There was a uniform (and proper) recognition by all panel members there were no actual policies or "mitigation" that could materially affect the course of events - it was entirely a question of (my phrasing) "how do we calm an illiterate and panicked public?".
Not in a cynical or diabolical sense. Just a recognition that the public would expect "solutions", there weren't any (other than watching the epidemic run its course along the Gompertz curve), and the profession had to be ready to say *something* reassuring.
These sorts of epidemiologists and actual science existed in 2020, but they were suppressed or self-muzzled. So, just confirming the general thesis here, but in a way making it even more outrageous.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2026 12:29 PM (U/Byj)
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95 I highly recommend that everyone watch the movie: Citizen Vigilante that Musk posted on X. An excellent movie and a possible look into the future.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (7aGEe)
Don't want to spoil the movie, but the way the cops went into that building was about the stupidest thing I'd ever seen and I believe would be nothing like what would happen in real life.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (7aGEe)
Don't want to spoil the movie, but the way the cops went into that building was about the stupidest thing I'd ever seen and I believe would be nothing like what would happen in real life.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)
102
Wonder what Dr. Rush would have thought of his descendent Stockton Rush..
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:30 PM (Sqwfw)
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It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (6wpGE)
Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (6wpGE)
Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 27, 2026 12:30 PM (1z8ji)
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I highly recommend that everyone watch the movie: Citizen Vigilante that Musk posted on X. An excellent movie and a possible look into the future.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM
I rented it last night on Prime Video. It's not in any way an excellent movie (Uwe Bolle is gonna Uwe Bolle), but everyone definitely should see it. And the ending isn't, but they already announced a sequel so that's not surprising.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM
I rented it last night on Prime Video. It's not in any way an excellent movie (Uwe Bolle is gonna Uwe Bolle), but everyone definitely should see it. And the ending isn't, but they already announced a sequel so that's not surprising.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:32 PM (QZThv)
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Don't want to spoil the movie, but the way the cops went into that building was about the stupidest thing I'd ever seen and I believe would be nothing like what would happen in real life.
I remember watching the video of the cops that went in to deal with the tranny school shooter in TN.
There was one guy that knew what he was doing and ordered the other guys to spread out and effectively use their advantage in numbers absent him it looked like the rest of the cops were going to slowly move through the building in one big bunch...
I remember watching the video of the cops that went in to deal with the tranny school shooter in TN.
There was one guy that knew what he was doing and ordered the other guys to spread out and effectively use their advantage in numbers absent him it looked like the rest of the cops were going to slowly move through the building in one big bunch...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:33 PM (sKqQm)
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Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 27, 2026 12:30 PM (1z8ji)
And was released in an effort to stop Trump.
Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 27, 2026 12:30 PM (1z8ji)
And was released in an effort to stop Trump.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:33 PM (2YhKe)
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Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
It is interesting how we went from:
COVID19 was obviously a naturally developed virus and anyone claiming anything else is a racist science denier
to
Well we always suspected COVID19 came from the Wuhan lab, but that's the price you have to pay to get new vaccines amiright?
It is interesting how we went from:
COVID19 was obviously a naturally developed virus and anyone claiming anything else is a racist science denier
to
Well we always suspected COVID19 came from the Wuhan lab, but that's the price you have to pay to get new vaccines amiright?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
108
I'm old enough to remember the flu completely went away when covid arrived.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:34 PM (2YhKe)
109
Gain of function labs should be tactically nuked, just to be sure.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:35 PM (2YhKe)
110
48 @m: Go look back at the tech thread, last comment. I answered your question about the egg joke.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 27, 2026 12:00
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Thanks. I was wondering about that as well.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 27, 2026 12:00
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Thanks. I was wondering about that as well.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 27, 2026 12:35 PM (Hbeqj)
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And was released in an effort to stop Trump.
100%. Trump being a known germophobe chose the form of his destructor. If he was afraid of ghosts, they would've dunked James Carville in flour and had him chase the Donald.
100%. Trump being a known germophobe chose the form of his destructor. If he was afraid of ghosts, they would've dunked James Carville in flour and had him chase the Donald.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:35 PM (QZThv)
112
593 moves playing Spider solitaire to beat it
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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Second Sponge's suggestion
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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Well we always suspected COVID19 came from the Wuhan lab, but that's the price you have to pay to get new vaccines amiright?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
Naw, bats with AIDS had functionality from that virus mutated onto the furin cleavage site of COVID by having gay sex with each other...
Well we always suspected COVID19 came from the Wuhan lab, but that's the price you have to pay to get new vaccines amiright?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
Naw, bats with AIDS had functionality from that virus mutated onto the furin cleavage site of COVID by having gay sex with each other...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
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I've long since given up trying to find the right adjectives for this, settling for "it's not a serious country/society" to cover it all.
Example, within a week or so of the CDC changing it's guidance on masks, the same CDC published a meta-study it had funded on the topic. Surprise! The meta-study, which looked at research dating back to the 1940s, found very limited evidence of benefit from masking - and that only with properly fitted high-end masks, in a clinical environment (from memory).
Again, I am wordless to describe a situation in which the national public health agency (without evidence) reverses its guidance on a major issue in the midst of a public health crisis and simultaneously releases research confirming no basis for the new guidance.
And the "press" doesn't even notice, much less burn down the house with the issue. And the public and subsidiary public health authorities go along.
The C19 was itself a symptom, not a cause, of general decline in actual literacy, common sense, and integrity and competence of public institutions.
Example, within a week or so of the CDC changing it's guidance on masks, the same CDC published a meta-study it had funded on the topic. Surprise! The meta-study, which looked at research dating back to the 1940s, found very limited evidence of benefit from masking - and that only with properly fitted high-end masks, in a clinical environment (from memory).
Again, I am wordless to describe a situation in which the national public health agency (without evidence) reverses its guidance on a major issue in the midst of a public health crisis and simultaneously releases research confirming no basis for the new guidance.
And the "press" doesn't even notice, much less burn down the house with the issue. And the public and subsidiary public health authorities go along.
The C19 was itself a symptom, not a cause, of general decline in actual literacy, common sense, and integrity and competence of public institutions.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2026 12:39 PM (U/Byj)
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106> C19 an Op, like BLM, to Stop Trump
The implications of this accusation are that enemies of Trump and MAGA find collapsing the global economy, killing millions of people, radically altering culture, and imbuing a profound distrust in all institutions as acceptable collateral damage for them to obtain power.
No election should be heavily fought given the manifest evil and diabolical lust for power the Demonic Party has.
The implications of this accusation are that enemies of Trump and MAGA find collapsing the global economy, killing millions of people, radically altering culture, and imbuing a profound distrust in all institutions as acceptable collateral damage for them to obtain power.
No election should be heavily fought given the manifest evil and diabolical lust for power the Demonic Party has.
Posted by: Community Notes at June 27, 2026 12:39 PM (a4flb)
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88 Among my family and friends, only the Covid-vaccinated got Covid more than once, and only the vaccinated got long Covid.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (pAWWf)
We had one family friend who was adamantly in favor of the shots and the boosters. She was hyper vigilant about health, because she had had breast cancer, but had been symptom free for 5 years.
I feel great pity and sympathy for her, because after the 3rd booster the breast cancer came back, and it was the turbo kind. She was dead in 5 months.
She trusted her doctors, and they betrayed her.
88 Among my family and friends, only the Covid-vaccinated got Covid more than once, and only the vaccinated got long Covid.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 12:19 PM (pAWWf)
We had one family friend who was adamantly in favor of the shots and the boosters. She was hyper vigilant about health, because she had had breast cancer, but had been symptom free for 5 years.
I feel great pity and sympathy for her, because after the 3rd booster the breast cancer came back, and it was the turbo kind. She was dead in 5 months.
She trusted her doctors, and they betrayed her.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:40 PM (O+ktY)
118
"I wouldn't mind doctors so much if they didn't call it practice." - Solomon Short.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:40 PM (Sqwfw)
119
The implications of this accusation are that enemies of Trump and MAGA find collapsing the global economy, killing millions of people, radically altering culture, and imbuing a profound distrust in all institutions as acceptable collateral damage for them to obtain power.
Related: Senate Republicans had a dinner with Thune in South Dakota last night. Scott Pressler bought tickets and was turned away at the door because he's too conservative.
Related: Senate Republicans had a dinner with Thune in South Dakota last night. Scott Pressler bought tickets and was turned away at the door because he's too conservative.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:41 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:42 PM (Sqwfw)
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Naw, bats with AIDS had functionality from that virus mutated onto the furin cleavage site of COVID by having gay sex with each other...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
Mmmmmmm.....cleavage.......
Naw, bats with AIDS had functionality from that virus mutated onto the furin cleavage site of COVID by having gay sex with each other...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 27, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
Mmmmmmm.....cleavage.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)
122
Anna did you watch or just suggestion?
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:44 PM (Ia/+0)
123
Just watch Death Wish with Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:42 PM (Sqwfw)
I think it's Death Wish II where he shoots the black guy using a ghetto blaster to protect himself and the guy spits out parts on the way down.
High comedy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:42 PM (Sqwfw)
I think it's Death Wish II where he shoots the black guy using a ghetto blaster to protect himself and the guy spits out parts on the way down.
High comedy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:45 PM (2YhKe)
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Those who have been on the case of the origins of C19 at the Wuhan institute do not as far as I know believe the release was deliberate. One can argue with them, and the actual evidence, to preserve the "op" theology. Talking about the actual events and Chy-nah's initial reaction (cover-up), all of which fit into common sense models of misbehavior that admittedly don't form the basis for bad fiction.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (U/Byj)
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117 A neighbor, I think in his late forties, should be in pretty good shape. Works in a factory where he's on his feet for an eight hour shift, hits the gym three or four nights after work, and golfs a couple times a week, weather permitting. Gave up smoking ten years ago. His company had mandatory fun with shots during COVID, along with boosters. Company claimed it was required due to Fed contracts. He's been to the ER three or four times since, with a week stay one time. All after the stabs.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (gm9Sb)
126
Death Wish doesn't have nekked boobs. Advantage: Citizen Vigilante.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (QZThv)
127
We had one family friend who was adamantly in favor of the shots and the boosters. She was hyper vigilant about health, because she had had breast cancer, but had been symptom free for 5 years.
I feel great pity and sympathy for her, because after the 3rd booster the breast cancer came back, and it was the turbo kind. She was dead in 5 months.
She trusted her doctors, and they betrayed her.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:40 PM (O+ktY)
First Lady's best friend had a stomach cancer. She was being treated in Houston and was going there often for treatments. She worked at a vet clinic, so she got on ivermectin. The doctors were amazed at her progress and the cancer had subsided. Once she told them what she was doing, they got visibly irritated at her and told her she shouldn't be doing that.
Then they recommended she get vaccinated due to her compromised immunity. Keep in mind, she lived in small town, middle of nowhere North East Texas. She got the vax, the cancer returned and she was gone within 6 months.
I feel great pity and sympathy for her, because after the 3rd booster the breast cancer came back, and it was the turbo kind. She was dead in 5 months.
She trusted her doctors, and they betrayed her.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:40 PM (O+ktY)
First Lady's best friend had a stomach cancer. She was being treated in Houston and was going there often for treatments. She worked at a vet clinic, so she got on ivermectin. The doctors were amazed at her progress and the cancer had subsided. Once she told them what she was doing, they got visibly irritated at her and told her she shouldn't be doing that.
Then they recommended she get vaccinated due to her compromised immunity. Keep in mind, she lived in small town, middle of nowhere North East Texas. She got the vax, the cancer returned and she was gone within 6 months.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:48 PM (2YhKe)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2026 12:49 PM (Cqx++)
129
I highly recommend that everyone watch the movie: Citizen Vigilante that Musk posted on X. An excellent movie and a possible look into the future.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (7aGEe)
Using Roxio "Record Your Screen", I recorded it last night on my Windows 8.1 laptop. Just dropped it into Pinnacle to edit out a few seconds of buffering and to increase the audio levels. Going to render it later and burn a DVD. Amazing flick. No wonder the Euroweenies and the "Woke" hate it.
The above way or another. . . . .there needs to be a reckoning.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 27, 2026 12:26 PM (7aGEe)
Using Roxio "Record Your Screen", I recorded it last night on my Windows 8.1 laptop. Just dropped it into Pinnacle to edit out a few seconds of buffering and to increase the audio levels. Going to render it later and burn a DVD. Amazing flick. No wonder the Euroweenies and the "Woke" hate it.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 27, 2026 12:49 PM (5xuJ/)
130
Death Wish doesn't have nekked boobs. Advantage: Citizen Vigilante.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (QZThv)
DW I has naked butt in the beginning.
II has boobs.
I don't remember if III, IV or V have anything because they were so bad, I've blocked them from my memory.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (QZThv)
DW I has naked butt in the beginning.
II has boobs.
I don't remember if III, IV or V have anything because they were so bad, I've blocked them from my memory.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:49 PM (2YhKe)
131
I used to keep the NIOSH mask standards at my desk because we used hundreds of masks a week at work. When Covid hit and they changed the standard I started printing out the new standards and eventually wound up with an evidence trace back to the original standards.
First they took away using N95 with the valve. The best 95 mask. Made us use N95 without a valve. Not as good as they break seal when you exhale. To cloth masks are as good as N95. As there was a shortage of N95 w/o masks.
So I had guys who went from mandatory N95 w/v to work. A constant source of bullshit as nobody wants to wear them. To hey guys, cloth masks were okay all along.
In an enviroment with particulate mater that will kill you.
I constantly bitched about it but rules are rules.
First they took away using N95 with the valve. The best 95 mask. Made us use N95 without a valve. Not as good as they break seal when you exhale. To cloth masks are as good as N95. As there was a shortage of N95 w/o masks.
So I had guys who went from mandatory N95 w/v to work. A constant source of bullshit as nobody wants to wear them. To hey guys, cloth masks were okay all along.
In an enviroment with particulate mater that will kill you.
I constantly bitched about it but rules are rules.
Posted by: Reforger at June 27, 2026 12:51 PM (mTPps)
132
That Stars & Stripes Forever rendition by the President's Own (aka the Marine Band) brings a tear to this Marine's eye. Now to find the entire thing and let it flow on the Utube.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 27, 2026 12:51 PM (+ldAm)
133
Citizen Vigilante?
Just watch Death Wish with Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:42 PM (Sqwfw)
No comparison. This guy goes after government agents as well who are responsible for releasing these animals into society. I ran Death Wish in 1974 when I was working as a part time projectionist in a first run theater. The audience clapped and cheered everytime a bad guy was offed.
Just watch Death Wish with Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2026 12:42 PM (Sqwfw)
No comparison. This guy goes after government agents as well who are responsible for releasing these animals into society. I ran Death Wish in 1974 when I was working as a part time projectionist in a first run theater. The audience clapped and cheered everytime a bad guy was offed.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 27, 2026 12:53 PM (5xuJ/)
134
I knew no people that died from COVID.
I did know one person that got turbo cancer after getting a booster and when that died from a heart attack also after getting his booster.
I did know one person that got turbo cancer after getting a booster and when that died from a heart attack also after getting his booster.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 27, 2026 12:53 PM (sKqQm)
135
His company had mandatory fun with shots during COVID, along with boosters. Company claimed it was required due to Fed contracts. He's been to the ER three or four times since, with a week stay one time. All after the stabs.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (gm9Sb)
SpongeBro has some fishing buddies he's been fishing with since his youth. One guy is in his 80's, but still LOVED getting out. They had a camper on a place near Mt. Pleasant for years. The old man's wife was very adamant about them getting the vax. He got the original and 2 boosters.
Shortly after the last shot, he collapsed in the RV bathroom and could hardly stand. He's never been the same since and rarely gets out and fishes anymore.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 27, 2026 12:47 PM (gm9Sb)
SpongeBro has some fishing buddies he's been fishing with since his youth. One guy is in his 80's, but still LOVED getting out. They had a camper on a place near Mt. Pleasant for years. The old man's wife was very adamant about them getting the vax. He got the original and 2 boosters.
Shortly after the last shot, he collapsed in the RV bathroom and could hardly stand. He's never been the same since and rarely gets out and fishes anymore.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:53 PM (2YhKe)
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Once, I had the idea to watch all of the "Death Wish" movies.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Once, I had the idea to watch all of the "Death Wish" movies.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:54 PM (iJfKG)
137
As everyone figured, Iran couldn't let things alone and they just had to attack ships in Dog Leg of Hormuz
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 12:55 PM (Ia/+0)
138
136
Once, I had the idea to watch all of the "Death Wish" movies.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:54 PM (iJfKG)
You really should finish the series. Consider it punishment for something bad you did in life that you must receive penance for.
Once, I had the idea to watch all of the "Death Wish" movies.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:54 PM (iJfKG)
You really should finish the series. Consider it punishment for something bad you did in life that you must receive penance for.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:56 PM (2YhKe)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:57 PM (2YhKe)
140
Once, I had the idea to watch all of the "Death Wish" movies.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:54 PM (iJfKG)
You really should finish the series. Consider it punishment for something bad you did in life that you must receive penance for.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:56 PM (2YhKe)
Aw, man. Couldn't I watch "Showgirls" for my Bad Movie Penance?
At least, it's got boobs.
DW 1 -was great
DW 2 - eh, okay, fine.
DW 3 - not good, I'm done.
DW 4 - not watched
Dw 5 - not watched
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:54 PM (iJfKG)
You really should finish the series. Consider it punishment for something bad you did in life that you must receive penance for.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 12:56 PM (2YhKe)
Aw, man. Couldn't I watch "Showgirls" for my Bad Movie Penance?
At least, it's got boobs.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:59 PM (iJfKG)
141
108 I'm old enough to remember the flu completely went away when covid arrived.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27
Almost like they were both viruses. Interesting.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27
Almost like they were both viruses. Interesting.
Posted by: Piper at June 27, 2026 01:00 PM (Wmg4n)
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Then they recommended she get vaccinated due to her compromised immunity. Keep in mind, she lived in small town, middle of nowhere North East Texas. She got the vax, the cancer returned and she was gone within 6 months.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Weird. 2 years after surgery and chemo for pancreatic cancer the cardio-oncologist told my wife she was NOT immunocompromised and didn't have to get jabbed unless she wanted to.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Weird. 2 years after surgery and chemo for pancreatic cancer the cardio-oncologist told my wife she was NOT immunocompromised and didn't have to get jabbed unless she wanted to.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 27, 2026 01:02 PM (Hbeqj)
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Hopefully when the Wuhan Flu 2: Red Hershey Squirts Boogaloo hits Mayor Mamdani will seal people up in their apartments after using the scoops.
Democrat Socialism!
Democrat Socialism!
Posted by: Lazy and Dumb NYC Resident at June 27, 2026 01:04 PM (og9zY)
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Aw, man. Couldn't I watch "Showgirls" for my Bad Movie Penance?
At least, it's got boobs.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:59 PM (iJfKG)
Well......further evaluation is required here.
Aw, man. Couldn't I watch "Showgirls" for my Bad Movie Penance?
At least, it's got boobs.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2026 12:59 PM (iJfKG)
Well......further evaluation is required here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:05 PM (2YhKe)
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Thx K.T.
Two weeks to bend the curve - no and bs
Wear a mask - masks don't stop viruses
Six foot safe space- pulled out of thin air
Virus didn't come from Wuhan lab - a lie
The vaccines were safe- the hiding of the VAERS data says they aren't safe.
But we should trust the med establishment
Two weeks to bend the curve - no and bs
Wear a mask - masks don't stop viruses
Six foot safe space- pulled out of thin air
Virus didn't come from Wuhan lab - a lie
The vaccines were safe- the hiding of the VAERS data says they aren't safe.
But we should trust the med establishment
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2026 01:06 PM (f6yx7)
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When can we trot out "The Science" and administer a good old fashioned tarring and feathering?
It is unfortunate that drawing, quartering and hanging has fallen out of favor in this day and age.
When can we trot out "The Science" and administer a good old fashioned tarring and feathering?
It is unfortunate that drawing, quartering and hanging has fallen out of favor in this day and age.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (+j4wF)
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Weird. 2 years after surgery and chemo for pancreatic cancer the cardio-oncologist told my wife she was NOT immunocompromised and didn't have to get jabbed unless she wanted to.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 27, 2026 01:02 PM (Hbeqj)
They never recommended my wife do anything different along those lines either.
She didn't take any vaccines after treatment and has only had issues with ecoli since. We're guessing that's due to the treatments because she's never had issues with that before.
Weird. 2 years after surgery and chemo for pancreatic cancer the cardio-oncologist told my wife she was NOT immunocompromised and didn't have to get jabbed unless she wanted to.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 27, 2026 01:02 PM (Hbeqj)
They never recommended my wife do anything different along those lines either.
She didn't take any vaccines after treatment and has only had issues with ecoli since. We're guessing that's due to the treatments because she's never had issues with that before.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (2YhKe)
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Oh and the guy who invented the PCR(?) test saying they were running samples through way to many times.
I do miss being an essential worker during quaranteen and having nobody on the road for my commute. I was driving wherever the hell I wanted. However fast I wanted. It was out of some post apoxeclipse mad max like movie.
I do miss being an essential worker during quaranteen and having nobody on the road for my commute. I was driving wherever the hell I wanted. However fast I wanted. It was out of some post apoxeclipse mad max like movie.
Posted by: Reforger at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (mTPps)
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (Ia/+0)
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Oh and the guy who invented the PCR(?) test saying they were running samples through way to many times.
I do miss being an essential worker during quaranteen and having nobody on the road for my commute. I was driving wherever the hell I wanted. However fast I wanted. It was out of some post apoxeclipse mad max like movie.
Posted by: Reforger at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (mTPps)
My favorite was when the woman went to the store and got the home covid test, filmed herself taking the test out of the package, pouring a Corona beer on it and it coming back positive for covid.
I do miss being an essential worker during quaranteen and having nobody on the road for my commute. I was driving wherever the hell I wanted. However fast I wanted. It was out of some post apoxeclipse mad max like movie.
Posted by: Reforger at June 27, 2026 01:07 PM (mTPps)
My favorite was when the woman went to the store and got the home covid test, filmed herself taking the test out of the package, pouring a Corona beer on it and it coming back positive for covid.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:08 PM (2YhKe)
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Covid 19 -- Much ado about a common annual occurrence. It was just another strain of the flu.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2026 01:13 PM (g8Ew8)
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The medical community did this to themselves. The fact they are surprised people aren’t over it by now is arrogant. Masks alone would be enough - the bacteria inside a mask, especially a child’s mask, is disgusting. The tentacles of COVID are vast - and for what? To find out w bunch of us (not us us) are sheeple? We already knew that.
Posted by: Piper at June 27, 2026 01:13 PM (Wmg4n)
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48 @m: Go look back at the tech thread, last comment. I answered your question about the egg joke.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (O7YUW)
Thank you!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 27, 2026 12:00 PM (O7YUW)
Thank you!
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 01:14 PM (6wpGE)
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The only good things to come out of the COVID scheme was the Cuomo idiots killed their careers the anal swabs used by the Red Chinese to test people.
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 27, 2026 01:15 PM (og9zY)
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53 McGovern was a fool, but an honest fool. (Unlike the current crop). I recall late in life, after running an inn or something, he said he finally understood why people complained about government being far too restrictive and controlling. He had never considered it before he actually tried running his own business.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (O+ktY)
Nice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 12:01 PM (O+ktY)
Nice.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 01:15 PM (6wpGE)
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97 Two people were particularly ugly about us not getting Covid shots. One is dead (blood clot) and the other is now under the care of a cardiologist.
Posted by: Emmie,
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That's vague.
Posted by: Emmie,
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That's vague.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 27, 2026 01:16 PM (Pee1E)
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I do want to take a moment and request thoughts and prayers for our own ONT guru extraordinaire, Doof, who recently had a memorial service for his mom.
May he be blessed with memories of all the wonderful times together over the years.
May he be blessed with memories of all the wonderful times together over the years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:17 PM (2YhKe)
158
"If the shot doesn't stop the spread there is NO reason or legal basis to mandate it whatsoever. And yet the mandates persisted"
Posted by: 18-1
Further, they banned and maligned ivermectin and other proven safe solutions.
Not error, malice.
"If the shot doesn't stop the spread there is NO reason or legal basis to mandate it whatsoever. And yet the mandates persisted"
Posted by: 18-1
Further, they banned and maligned ivermectin and other proven safe solutions.
Not error, malice.
Posted by: Speller at June 27, 2026 01:18 PM (pSotA)
159
Yeah the whole COVID hoax did a number on trust/respect/confidence for the medical community.
Boomers increasingly engaging the health care system due to aging is not helping
Boomers increasingly engaging the health care system due to aging is not helping
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 27, 2026 01:18 PM (wBaIH)
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Regarding Dr Rush, in The Disappearing Spoon, a book on the elements in the periodic table, there is a passage about mercury compounds for constipation that Rush made. Given to Lewis and Clark, their campsites can be traced by the mercury from Dr Rush's quack cure. I'll take 2026 over 1800's medicine.
And thankful for transplant researchers, volunteers for medical trials and surgeons for 2 friends still active with transplants instead of dialysis's slow death.
And thankful for transplant researchers, volunteers for medical trials and surgeons for 2 friends still active with transplants instead of dialysis's slow death.
Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 27, 2026 01:19 PM (mHOKe)
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Fauci and/or the Chinese didn't weaponize Covid. The media and the politicians did.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2026 01:19 PM (g8Ew8)
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Sorry Paul, but your entire comment was a mass of bullshit. Do better. [CBD]
Posted by: Paul at June 27, 2026 01:20 PM (RTsLa)
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And I'm not sure if it's a subtle joke or not, but the 'Supergirl' link on the main page does go to a video about a paralyzed dog regaining the ability to walk......
A shout out to Christopher Reeve?
A shout out to Christopher Reeve?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:21 PM (2YhKe)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at June 27, 2026 01:22 PM (2YhKe)
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Fauci and/or the Chinese didn't weaponize Covid. The media and the politicians did.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2026 01:19 PM (g8Ew
Correct. It was used to unbalance and upend President Trump's 1st term and it succeeded.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2026 01:19 PM (g8Ew
Correct. It was used to unbalance and upend President Trump's 1st term and it succeeded.
Posted by: Felon Joe From Kokomo at June 27, 2026 01:22 PM (og9zY)
166
It should be known, everything that guy just said is bullshit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:22 PM (2YhKe)
167
Sponge, Amen.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2026 01:22 PM (afJtY)
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>>Is there a medical advance that you particularly appreciate?
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An ENT doc knocked out my chronic severe nasal congestion with steroids + Claritin. It improved my life immensely.
>>Is there a medical advance that you particularly appreciate?
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An ENT doc knocked out my chronic severe nasal congestion with steroids + Claritin. It improved my life immensely.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2026 01:23 PM (XJ22o)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:23 PM (2YhKe)
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The medical community did this to themselves.
All the professional communities have done this to themselves. Every. Single. One.
That's the take from of all this. Credentialism - as practiced and preached by our elders and many still here - was and still is Fool's Gold.
As said by no less than Milton Friedman. They're not Angels. Just men. And thus not to be trusted. A title or uniform doesn't change human nature.
All the professional communities have done this to themselves. Every. Single. One.
That's the take from of all this. Credentialism - as practiced and preached by our elders and many still here - was and still is Fool's Gold.
As said by no less than Milton Friedman. They're not Angels. Just men. And thus not to be trusted. A title or uniform doesn't change human nature.
Posted by: Spring Reverb at June 27, 2026 01:23 PM (OMEw5)
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72
Raccoon Dog, once suspected as the source of Covid-19
Look, a-holes.
About all you can say about us is that we have huge balls, like to get drunk, and will fuck up your garden or farm land.
That's it. Now, sayonara!
Posted by: The Tanukis Reply at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (iJfKG)
He seems nice.
Raccoon Dog, once suspected as the source of Covid-19
Look, a-holes.
About all you can say about us is that we have huge balls, like to get drunk, and will fuck up your garden or farm land.
That's it. Now, sayonara!
Posted by: The Tanukis Reply at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (iJfKG)
He seems nice.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 01:24 PM (6wpGE)
172
Hey, Paul! Fuck off!!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2026 01:24 PM (g8Ew8)
173
glop gleep gloop bleb
Posted by: Paul, who enjoys the sexual affections of dogs at June 27, 2026 01:24 PM (RTsLa)
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That's it. Now, sayonara!
Posted by: The Tanukis Reply at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (iJfKG)
He seems nice.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 01:24 PM (6wpGE)
Defined:
The Japanese raccoon dog, also called the tanuki, is a species of canid that is endemic to Japan. It is one of two species in the genus Nyctereutes, alongside the common raccoon dog, of which it is considered to be a subspecies by some taxonomic authorities. In Japan, raccoon dogs have had a prominent role in folklore since ancient times. They are reputedly mischievous and jolly, masters of disguise and shapeshifting, but somewhat gullible and absent-minded
Posted by: The Tanukis Reply at June 27, 2026 12:13 PM (iJfKG)
He seems nice.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 01:24 PM (6wpGE)
Defined:
The Japanese raccoon dog, also called the tanuki, is a species of canid that is endemic to Japan. It is one of two species in the genus Nyctereutes, alongside the common raccoon dog, of which it is considered to be a subspecies by some taxonomic authorities. In Japan, raccoon dogs have had a prominent role in folklore since ancient times. They are reputedly mischievous and jolly, masters of disguise and shapeshifting, but somewhat gullible and absent-minded
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:25 PM (2YhKe)
175
Paul is missing the fact that in the beginning, medical professionals actually killed many of the covid patients by treating them completely incorrectly, causing their demise.
But why let facts get in the way of a completely ignorant rant.
But why let facts get in the way of a completely ignorant rant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:26 PM (2YhKe)
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***Second, doctors no longer have their own practices. They're part of doctor corporations which promulgate "standards of care" that they're required to follow.
Third, doctors are hammers, drugs are nails, lifestyle change is a screw.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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The clinic my doc works at started with the purpose of being independent - a group of like minded docs. Through the years Big Hospital garnered Yuge reputation and in the interim docs at the clinic gained privileges at Big Hospital. Over the years tentacles of Big Hospital penetrated every crevice of the clinic.
Docs were push by medical influencers, group think, published data that they had always relied upon for accurate data and in the end were force to take the shots if they wanted to keep privileges at Big Hospital.
It began as sanctified data and ended as an undefiable force.
Third, doctors are hammers, drugs are nails, lifestyle change is a screw.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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The clinic my doc works at started with the purpose of being independent - a group of like minded docs. Through the years Big Hospital garnered Yuge reputation and in the interim docs at the clinic gained privileges at Big Hospital. Over the years tentacles of Big Hospital penetrated every crevice of the clinic.
Docs were push by medical influencers, group think, published data that they had always relied upon for accurate data and in the end were force to take the shots if they wanted to keep privileges at Big Hospital.
It began as sanctified data and ended as an undefiable force.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 27, 2026 01:27 PM (Pee1E)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2026 01:28 PM (Kt19C)
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Too bad the Red Death missed Paul. But since all the death numbers were made up lies for money, he still has a chance.
Soon Paul. Soon.
Soon Paul. Soon.
Posted by: Death at June 27, 2026 01:28 PM (og9zY)
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Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 27, 2026 01:27 PM (Pee1E)
Your hash suggests Emma Peel........
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Your hash suggests Emma Peel........
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:29 PM (2YhKe)
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Nyctereutes
Served on a board with cheese and salami?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2026 01:28 PM (Kt19C)
Charcuterie!!!
Served on a board with cheese and salami?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2026 01:28 PM (Kt19C)
Charcuterie!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:31 PM (2YhKe)
181
As far as I know, the flu shot is at best worthless.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
No. Incorrect. Flu vaccine is not great because of the lag between identification of the strains in the wild and production of the vaccine. But it is at worst mildly effective, and can be 50%-60% effective during a good year.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 27, 2026 11:54 AM (pAWWf)
No. Incorrect. Flu vaccine is not great because of the lag between identification of the strains in the wild and production of the vaccine. But it is at worst mildly effective, and can be 50%-60% effective during a good year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2026 01:32 PM (PLxDd)
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I remember at the time, when it was obvious that the virus had come out of the Wuhan Lab, and every professional organization and the government was loudly denying it, we all wondered “why is our government covering up so much for the Chinese?”
And now we know, it was to keep the Chinese from saying “well we only did it because your government and Fauci paid us to make it”
And now we know, it was to keep the Chinese from saying “well we only did it because your government and Fauci paid us to make it”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 01:34 PM (AXZB+)
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Would it be too much to ask for Fauci to die an excruciatingly painful death?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:35 PM (2YhKe)
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103 It wasn't Covid-19 that destroyed the trust. It was some governments' response to Covid-19. Squandered our trust.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (6wpGE)
Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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In the beginning it wasn't a mastermind plan to take over the country. We had/have a dozen or more labs like that. Then it metastasized. Xi saw an opportunity to grab more power and simultaneously our Administrative State did same.
And, like communism/socialism/plagues it consumed itself.
Posted by: m at June 27, 2026 11:43 AM (6wpGE)
Covid-19 didn't just happen. It was created by scientists paid from government funds. An op from the git-go.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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In the beginning it wasn't a mastermind plan to take over the country. We had/have a dozen or more labs like that. Then it metastasized. Xi saw an opportunity to grab more power and simultaneously our Administrative State did same.
And, like communism/socialism/plagues it consumed itself.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 27, 2026 01:36 PM (Pee1E)
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I occasionally pray that God has a better imagination than I do, because I can't think of anything that is as bad as Fauci deserves.
Posted by: Wenda at June 27, 2026 01:36 PM (lv4ib)
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So I don't trust Doctors at this point to even fairly classify cause of death. I just don't. But I trust, in the big scheme, that collectively we can still classify Dead vs Alive. Although again, when it comes to documenting Dead vs Alive ? Look -people lie. People in Government lie for more reasons than I can count.
Thus - all any of us can do is rely on the sources of numbers we trust. Because none of us has the time to go count all the Dead ourselves.
All that to get to this ... a lot of people die in the US. And the US is getting more populated every day. I'll use StatBase. Number of United States Death. Was trending up, like clocwork - by 25K a year before Covid. There was a bump in 2020. About 500K. Same for 2021. Another 500K above the trend line. Another 300K in 2022. By 2023 ? Right back on the trend line.
So something happened. Something measurable. That probably isn't all COVID - but at least some was COVID. But I'm also sure people don't realize that THREE MILLION people die a year in the United States. We've got A LOT of people.
Thus - all any of us can do is rely on the sources of numbers we trust. Because none of us has the time to go count all the Dead ourselves.
All that to get to this ... a lot of people die in the US. And the US is getting more populated every day. I'll use StatBase. Number of United States Death. Was trending up, like clocwork - by 25K a year before Covid. There was a bump in 2020. About 500K. Same for 2021. Another 500K above the trend line. Another 300K in 2022. By 2023 ? Right back on the trend line.
So something happened. Something measurable. That probably isn't all COVID - but at least some was COVID. But I'm also sure people don't realize that THREE MILLION people die a year in the United States. We've got A LOT of people.
Posted by: Spring Reverb at June 27, 2026 01:36 PM (OMEw5)
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I'm going to post this for any guy with prostate issues. I have been reading about problems with prostate cancer diagnosis. There are links to studies here
https://tinyurl.com/54mvpwsj
https://tinyurl.com/54mvpwsj
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2026 01:37 PM (bkuEU)
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I'm old enough to remember the flu completely went away when covid arrived.
Posted by: Sponge
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I remember.
Posted by: Sponge
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I remember.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farm at June 27, 2026 01:37 PM (etq//)
189
I occasionally pray that God has a better imagination than I do, because I can't think of anything that is as bad as Fauci deserves.
Posted by: Wenda
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Check out a platypus lately?
God's imagination is limitless.
Posted by: Wenda
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Check out a platypus lately?
God's imagination is limitless.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 27, 2026 01:38 PM (etq//)
190
Your hash suggests Emma Peel........
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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No, I'm on the take from a company selling Pee Ez. They are daily tablets that help folks with enlarged prostates. You should try them.
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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No, I'm on the take from a company selling Pee Ez. They are daily tablets that help folks with enlarged prostates. You should try them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 27, 2026 01:38 PM (Pee1E)
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Your hash suggests Emma Peel........
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:29 PM (2YhKe)
Fun trivia about the name - when the producers were casting the show, they agreed that Steed needed a partner who would have “male appeal”.
Which, in the written directions to those doing casting, they wrote out as “M. Appeal.”
https://is.gd/5NfyJO
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2026 01:29 PM (2YhKe)
Fun trivia about the name - when the producers were casting the show, they agreed that Steed needed a partner who would have “male appeal”.
Which, in the written directions to those doing casting, they wrote out as “M. Appeal.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2026 01:40 PM (AXZB+)
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And, just so you know, here's whenyou actually need a ventilator
https://tinyurl.com/f3t98w4m
There are medical professionals, posting on Substack, with all sorts of useful info. There are quacks too,so you have to do your own research.
https://tinyurl.com/f3t98w4m
There are medical professionals, posting on Substack, with all sorts of useful info. There are quacks too,so you have to do your own research.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2026 01:40 PM (bkuEU)
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Bracken suggested Citizen Vigilante several days back. Asked about it here, but nobody answered, so I bought it on Amazon and watched it. I'm not saying it is well-made or that you will like it or even agree with its premise, but you should watch it...culturally very significant...and you can fast-forward through the scene with the prostitute(s) and not miss much of the theme if you prefer.
"I am doing this until you learn to do it for yourselves" or similar wording seemed to be the phrase that pays.
"I am doing this until you learn to do it for yourselves" or similar wording seemed to be the phrase that pays.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 27, 2026 01:41 PM (nAPfc)
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I don't even want to get started on how the medical/Veterinary field has changed for the worse.
Yes there have been huge strides made in cancer treatment, joint /organ replacement and immunology.
Yes there have been huge strides made in cancer treatment, joint /organ replacement and immunology.
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World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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