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Overnight Open Thread [07/13/2026]

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The bison is far more in tune with the American spirit than the eagle or the turkey (Benjamin Franklin's laughable choice for a symbol). It's the size and weight of a compact sedan, and can run 35 miles/hour. It's cranky as f*ck; and will ignore you until it decides to toss you in the air because you are mildly irritating. And then forget about you, because you are unimportant. It has the quiet confidence that that everything else should probably get out of the way. And if you don't? It makes clear that stupidity has consequences.

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It's a cleverly written skit, but the performance is utterly and completely brilliant.

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The American obsession with celebrity is becoming unhinged from reality. I think it is tremendously damaging to our culture, because the celebrities most worshiped are often vile human beings whose claim to fame is stuff like gangster rap, or even worse, insipid pop music! Artist sells out of trash collected from Taylor Swift's wedding. Yeah...she is an impressive businesswoman, but five years after she stops performing her music will be as popular as the hundreds of other bands that simply faded away.

The obsession comes at the expense of paying attention to more worthy things. Yes, get off my lawn! Seriously, I understand that entertainment is an integral part of our world, but the caustic influence of amoral post-modern entertainers is not good for us as a society.

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Just look what you dodged! Don't ever say I don't do anything for you maniacs!

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Don't ask me why these three are on my personal play list. I have no rhyme or reason for what goes on it. If I like the way a song sounds...even a little bit of it...I go for it. And why not? The worst thing that can happen is that I skip it.


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I find heavy equipment operators to be amazingly impressive. They run multi-ton vehicles as if they were surgeons. And yes, I bitterly regret not becoming one.

There are few concepts that have done more for Man than hydraulics. Imagine a world without it!


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Somebody sent this to me and claimed it was how they manufacture American Cheese.



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The Farside

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1 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 09:52 PM (VmkSV)

2 THIRD BASE!!

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 13, 2026 09:52 PM (4NO2D)

3 Monday, Monday, so good to me!
Because I love my ONT

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at July 13, 2026 09:54 PM (OXvkT)

4 "Fine. But what's his first name?'
"Guess."
"Uh, I don't want to. What's his first name?"
"Guess."
"... Tell me his whole name."
"Guess Who."
*AAAAAAARRRGH*

Posted by: Another Anon at July 13, 2026 09:54 PM (4h45B)

5 Bingo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 09:55 PM (VPNgR)

6 Congrats on 1st TonyPete...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 13, 2026 09:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

7 Thank you. I couldn't have done it without a modicum of blind, dumb luck.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 09:56 PM (VmkSV)

8 Good evening Horde. Thanks CDB!

Excavator recovery is absolutely the type of content I'm here for.

Posted by: TRex - digger dino at July 13, 2026 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

9 Really?

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at July 13, 2026 09:59 PM (ZAfEX)

10 CBDMONONTYAY

Posted by: mindful webworker - We don' need no steenkin' space bars at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (ci8WY)

11 We once saw a small herd of bison at Yellowstone. Cars stopped on the road. We sat quietly and hoped they did not notice us in our cars.

You could easily see that buffalo was agitated by his dust bath. At least the guy was not trying to pet him.

I have no empathy for the people who try to pet them, get a selfie with them, or dip what used to be their toes off the boardwalks into the pretty blue hot springs of Yellowstone.

Sometimes hiking in the mountains here you come upon a moose eating grass and flowers. We tend to move away quietly vs tourons who take photos.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (hzuYO)

12 Excavator recovery is absolutely the type of content I'm here for.
Posted by: TRex - digger dino

Aren't there places where they rent all kinds of earth moving equipment to 29+ year old 'kids' to push piles of dirt around?

I'd love to do that.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (VmkSV)

13 Rage Against My Dad, You Guys! G'all!

Dickweeds.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:02 PM (0aYVJ)

14 WHO DAT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI-EoLWgp5w
Iron Biden: Has he lost his Mind; Can he see or is he Blind

of COURSE ctHARRIS wouldn't change a thing.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-ifLIBsWantAmerica2Fail
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-ShadowOfTheIceKING
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-PrezLibraryCameo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yModCU1OVHY
How iceKingJOE really saw himself.
Tally Hall: Banana Man [content warning: Danger/PsychoHazard ]

LET's GO BRANDON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9hX43pTpE
Metal Trump: Sad but TRUE!

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 13, 2026 10:02 PM (RBJL0)

15 I know that Senator Graham was not killed by RUSSA or Putin because he was not poisoned with "Polemonium....

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (xEwO4)

16 There is a piece of tatanka the Indians do not use.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (/+uur)

17 Aren't there places where they rent all kinds of earth moving equipment to 29+ year old 'kids' to push piles of dirt around?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (VmkSV)


There is a union training facility along I-95 in central NJ that has about 50 pieces of monstrous heavy machinery. I am awfully tempted to join the union just to train there!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (l4RKn)

18 visidiots < tourons

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (hXJIb)

19 Ohhh!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 13, 2026 10:04 PM (uTEOj)

20 15 I know that Senator Graham was not killed by RUSSA or Putin because he was not poisoned with "Polemonium....
Posted by: Jackson K

Havana Syndrome setting level: 10
Now they know it works -- failure of imagination, until it isn't.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 13, 2026 10:05 PM (RBJL0)

21 Aren't there places where they rent all kinds of earth moving equipment to 29+ year old 'kids' to push piles of dirt around?

I'd love to do that.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (VmkSV)
___

After the flooding this weekend, there's actually 29+ year olds using such equipment to rebuild roads that were washed out.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 13, 2026 10:05 PM (+sK4n)

22 Also, this is my hill:

Buffalo. Not bison. Buff. A. Lo.

I was born and raised in Montana and Wyoming. We who are natives say "the fuck is a bison?"

I do not care what the scientific name of the beast is.
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Trace
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Bills

Again. This is my hill.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:06 PM (0aYVJ)

23 A theme in ICE shootings is putting their bodies in front of operational vehicles. This practice is dangerous for the officers and manufactures a reason for them to shoot drivers if they make one wrong move.

One witness says the victim said, "I tried to stop" before dying.

I was trying to stop just before I tried to kill you.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:07 PM (/+uur)

24 I gotta say, that cheese making seems way more manual than I picture. I suspect they made something else - the cheese must be a big vat of orange goo. But I could be dead wrong

Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:07 PM (Rn6Z4)

25 I had bison on a bun last week.

*shrugs*

It tasted good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 13, 2026 10:08 PM (jehhT)

26 Again. This is my hill.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:06 PM (0aYVJ)
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I feel like you're trying to buffalo us

Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:08 PM (Rn6Z4)

27 Shaboozey?

Wasn't that the song in Music Man featuring Buddy Hackett?
https://youtu.be/pV_uw5nV79Q

Or what the chorus is singing at the start of The Poor Side Of Town by Johnny Rivers?
https://youtu.be/vAI24i825_E

Posted by: mindful webworker - my musical knowledge is limited at July 13, 2026 10:08 PM (ci8WY)

28 I do not care what the scientific name of the beast is.
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Trace
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Bills

Again. This is my hill.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill?
-- I like it (John Lennon)

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (VmkSV)

29 It’s called tourist season for a reason.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (yEz+x)

30 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (77rzZ)

31 I do not care what the scientific name of the beast is.
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Trace
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Bills

Again. This is my hill.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:06 PM (0aYVJ)

Are you trying to buffalo me
Hello, hello, hello
Shake hands
Brother, hi ho
ou're always bound to know
A water buffalo
Hello
hello, hello, hello
Greetings, fellow buddy
A buffalo as you must know
Is never a fuddy-duddy

Hello, hello, hello
I'm glad to see
We're proud to be
A water buffalo!

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (/+uur)

32 @22
" This is my hill."

Guess everybody needs a hill.

Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 10:10 PM (IY9No)

33
If it's aortic dissection, that's going to be clear on the autopsy, of course. Now, is there any artificial way to induce such a thing? I don't think so, but there might be.

But if Putin or any others wanted to kill him and make it look natural/accidental there are much easier ways to do it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2026 10:10 PM (w6EFb)

34 There is a piece of tatanka the Indians do not use.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (/+uur)

But the Italian-Indians do not pollute the sacred hunting grounds with unused leftover bits. *tear rolls down cheek*

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (wVcYX)

35 Evening all,

We have a launch early in the morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-45
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: July 14, 2026
Launch Time: 5:10 a.m. EDT (0910 UTC, 1110 CEST)

https://youtu.be/Cs8MhzKv3gA

Posted by: Joyenz at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)

36 AoSHQ may trigger convulsions and projectile vomiting in some new readers.

HQ shit my pants.

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (oIVsY)

37 Evening, all,

A quiet day here with rain during a lot of it. We may have more early tomorrow morning, preventing me from working out. I could go to the mall to walk -- but I have a doctor's appointment (usual check-in, nothing Sirius) at 12:45, so the timing would be tight.

Wednesday does not look busy -- though I have to call the Fidelity people about that eternally-delayed check, and the IRS about my refund. Thursday I'll have the Buick's rear brakes done. Friday, a mall walk would be good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (wzUl9)

38 Guess everybody needs a hill.
Posted by: Case

Bill didn't. What the hell was he thinking anyway? What did he get out of the arrangement? Seriously.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (VmkSV)

39 And I LOVE LOVE LOVE that Lindsey Graham’s sister was chosen to serve out his term. She has no designs on the seat.

This way, the several politicians vying for the spot can have a debate amd voters can choose in a primary who will be the nominee.

Someone should tell the democrats this is how “democracy” works.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:11 PM (yEz+x)

40 It’s called tourist season for a reason.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (yEz+x)

Best time to be in Yellowstone is after communist labor day.

Don't tell nobody. I worked a summer there. The drop-off of tourons was dramatic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:12 PM (0aYVJ)

41 I can't believe you are down playing the bison attack in Yellowstone. Did you not see what happened to the guy? Do you have no shame?

https://tinyurl.com/yc3nej7e

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:13 PM (viF8m)

42 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 10:13 PM (sAmhv)

43 Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes, Lodge #26.

Posted by: Fred Flintstone at July 13, 2026 10:13 PM (wVcYX)

44 While sitting in traffic at Yellowstone, driving my convertible, a bison came strolling down the other lane. He was the cause of the traffic. Three feet away. Eye to eye. Scared the shit outta me.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 10:13 PM (2WIwB)

45 Yellowstone Bison Charge
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Wasn't me! I'm in Yosemite with 17 in-laws, outlaws and scofflaws. We already got a written warning from management over the Citronella candles we've used here for over 35 years without incident!

More later next week after I return to my Southern California redoubt.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 13, 2026 10:14 PM (1PYs9)

46 Best time to be in Yellowstone is after communist labor day.

Don't tell nobody. I worked a summer there. The drop-off of tourons was dramatic.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Yosemite was similar. If you go during prime season you'll be either suicidal or homicidal.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:14 PM (VmkSV)

47 @22
" This is my hill."

Guess everybody needs a hill.
Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 10:10 PM (IY9No)

Sigh. I say things like this, you know, tongue in cheek.

We good?

that said: buffalo. Forever.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:14 PM (0aYVJ)

48 how they manufacture American Cheese - looks legit

Instagram embeds never show up for me on here. Which is fine. Worst video platform - no progress bar, no volume control, no full-screen.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 'Merican! at July 13, 2026 10:15 PM (ci8WY)

49 It’s called tourist season for a reason.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:09 PM (yEz+x)

. . . all of those tourists covered with oil.

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Buffett, Wasted Away Again at July 13, 2026 10:15 PM (wVcYX)

50 @38. Bill didn't.

I'll let Bill answer that.

Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 10:15 PM (IY9No)

51 We'll be in Yellowstone in about a week. And yes, we've been warned about the bison.

Posted by: pookysgirl, doing some last-minute packing at July 13, 2026 10:16 PM (Wt5PA)

52 HQ shit my pants.

HQ didn’t do that, you did it! You’re a fucking communist agent! I knew it!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 13, 2026 10:16 PM (kYmoU)

53 I read the headline about the Yellowstone tourist and eagerly clicked hoping to see some fatass jerk from NJ (or thereabouts) getting what he deserved. No luck. This guy wasn't poking the bear. He FO'd without the FA part. Poor fellow

Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:16 PM (Mjjx+)

54 And I LOVE LOVE LOVE that Lindsey Graham’s sister was chosen to serve out his term. She has no designs on the seat.
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And she seems like the person in the world who's most likely to just do what her brother would have done which, for better or worse, is what his state voted for.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2026 10:16 PM (vSvIl)

55 Some of the best buffalo photos we have gathered over the years is via buffalo jams from our car, where bulls, cows and calves wander by, knowing they own this place.

Buffalo are kinda stinky.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

56 Please use vomit bag in seat pocket.

Um, mine's been used. Can I have a fresh one?

Posted by: mindful webworker - it was the music selections at July 13, 2026 10:17 PM (ci8WY)

57 And yes, we've been warned about the bison.

Posted by: pookysgirl, doing some last-minute packing at July 13, 2026 10:16 PM (Wt5PA)
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If they get in the way of your car just smack them in the ass to move them along. Trust me.

Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:17 PM (Mjjx+)

58 Thanks for the ONT, CBD. And for the comment inclusions about Bison Bison.

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 13, 2026 10:18 PM (Jr+re)

59 @22
" This is my hill."


There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2026 10:18 PM (Wnv9h)

60 If Velveeta was made in a cave in France, the cheese snobs would be agog over its creamy texture, low melting point, and overall salty goodness.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2026 10:18 PM (+EWjf)

61 “It's cranky as f*ck; and will ignore you until it decides to toss you in the air because you are mildly irritating. And then forget about you, because you are unimportant. It has the quiet confidence that that everything else should probably get out of the way. And if you don't? It makes clear that stupidity has consequences.”

Couldn’t the same be said about a cat?
Except for that toss you in the air thing. But they can fuck you up in other ways you won’t forget soon…

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2026 10:18 PM (Mxkwh)

62 I have seen far more grizzlies in Yellowstone than black bears.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:18 PM (0aYVJ)

63 If they get in the way of your car just smack them in the ass to move them along. Trust me.
Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:17 PM (Mjjx+)

Same for the grocery store parking lot.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026 10:19 PM (wVcYX)

64 visitards>tourons

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at July 13, 2026 10:19 PM (X5FXP)

65 Yup. I get CBD certainly doesn't like me. But, I sure dig the cut of his jib😜!
Thanks CBD!!!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 13, 2026 10:19 PM (uTEOj)

66 After high school a friend decided to drive his Mazda 323 cross country from SC to Washington State.

He was somewhere in the big square states and off in the distance he saw a buffalo running down the highway directly at him. He slowed down but did not stop, figuring the buffalo would stop or swerve or something.

He did not. The buffalo hit the car head on, rolled over the top and hit the ground running.

The car was still running and seemed okay so my friend continued his trip. When he took it for the insurance claim they totalled it - because it looked fine, but had buckled the roof.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 13, 2026 10:20 PM (NlEaG)

67 62 I have seen far more grizzlies in Yellowstone than black bears.

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The black bears tend to congregate around the pick-a-nick baskets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 13, 2026 10:20 PM (u/oMr)

68 Whiskey Myers is alright. I've been listening to his stuff on YTube this summer, along with Ella Langley. I seem to listen to more C&W music over the summer than I do the rest of the year.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 10:21 PM (sAmhv)

69 Artist sells out of trash collected from Taylor Swift's wedding.


Heh.
I remember when The Beatles came to Seattle. Afterwards they were selling 1 inch square pieces of carpet, supposedly from their rooms, for a buck each. Big money in the 60's.
And idiots bought them.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 10:21 PM (2WIwB)

70 More later next week after I return to my Southern California redoubt.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 13, 2026 10:14 PM (1PYs9)[/p]

You didn't doubt it well enough the first time?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 13, 2026 10:22 PM (NlEaG)

71 45 Yellowstone Bison Charge
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Wasn't me! I'm in Yosemite with 17 in-laws, outlaws and scofflaws. We already got a written warning from management over the Citronella candles we've used here for over 35 years without incident!

More later next week after I return to my Southern California redoubt.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue



The mosquito lobby is a vicious bunch. There lawyers are unmatched!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 10:22 PM (sAmhv)

72 Oh wait it wasn't a 323 - it was a GLC!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 13, 2026 10:23 PM (NlEaG)

73 >>I have seen far more grizzlies in Yellowstone than black bears.

Only been to Yellowstone once a long time ago but it left a lasting impression. One of the places I hope to visit again someday.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:23 PM (viF8m)

74 And idiots bought them.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 10:21 PM (2WIwB)

Did anyone buy the shark that Ozzy caught outside the window of that hotel room?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:24 PM (0aYVJ)

75 I’ve had European bison meat.

It wisent very good.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

76 Heck, they let Morons rent heavy equipment just to run on their own property!

Last time I had an excavator out, I had Bride of PI working the controls just in case we needed to operate two pieces of equipment in the future.

Within 5" she was able to put the bucket teeth in the toothmarks of the previous scoop!

Just like learning to shoot, she said, "That was a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be."

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2026 10:25 PM (HlyYF)

77 Aren't there places where they rent all kinds of earth moving equipment to 29+ year old 'kids' to push piles of dirt around?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (VmkSV)

There is a union training facility along I-95 in central NJ that has about 50 pieces of monstrous heavy machinery. I am awfully tempted to join the union just to train there!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:03 PM (l4RKn)

This could work for a MoMe. No, I don't live in Vegas.

https://digthisvegas.com/

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2026 10:26 PM (qx7Zg)

78 Only been to Yellowstone once a long time ago but it left a lasting impression. One of the places I hope to visit again someday.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:23 PM (viF8m)

I grew up in Cody. 50 miles from the east gate. 5 bucks a carload. And the Northeast entrance was almost always un-manned. We used to gather elk and deer antlers in the Lamar Valley.

Wait. no, we didn't. that would be illegal.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:27 PM (0aYVJ)

79 Best time to be in Yellowstone is after communist labor day.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:12 PM (0aYVJ)


Last time I was in Yellowstone was late September. Not crowded at all, although the tranny-curious employee in one of the visitor centers was unpleasant.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:27 PM (l4RKn)

80 The black bears tend to congregate around the pick-a-nick baskets.
Posted by: Cicero

Around here we've had more school closing days due to black bears roaming around than we have had snow days. It's odd - the bears are pretty calm. Even if Momma bear has young cubs with her. They (usually) don't bother the dogs and will just stand there looking at you if happen on them on one of the trails or in your yards.

They are hell on bird feeders though.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:28 PM (VmkSV)

81 Watched "How It's Made" many a night, from my recliner, while recuperating from one thing or another.

Posted by: javems at July 13, 2026 10:29 PM (zFsEm)

82 I remember when The Beatles came to Seattle. Afterwards they were selling 1 inch square pieces of carpet, supposedly from their rooms, for a buck each. Big money in the 60's.
And idiots bought them.
Posted by: Diogenes


As I recall, it was their bedsheet.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. at July 13, 2026 10:29 PM (ci8WY)

83 41 I can't believe you are down playing the bison attack in Yellowstone. Did you not see what happened to the guy? Do you have no shame?

https://tinyurl.com/yc3nej7e
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:13 PM (viF8m)

I hope grandpa is okay, that was a tough fall.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 13, 2026 10:30 PM (y171U)

84 I got some sad news today, brought the Lindsey situation home. Had A friend here, a woman in her early 60’s, a lot of fun, energetic, we’d volunteered on some local non profits together and she was the current head of one of them. Just found out that over the weekend she had a pulmonary embolism and died in the ambulance. Very sad for all of her friends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 13, 2026 10:30 PM (wLnmp)

85 I remember when Charlie Bronson starred in a western moby dick movie called the white buffalo. It would have better if Robert E Howard had written it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2026 10:30 PM (sYM3s)

86 There used to be a small herd of bison that lived in an arranged field on both sides of I-70 west of Denver, as the highway began to climb. There was a tunnel underneath the highway so the beasts could cross from one side to the other to graze. You could exit the I-70 there and park nearby to watch them -- but there was a sign on the fence: "DO NOT APPROACH"!

In '98 I drove down to Great Sand Dunes Park. On the way back I found myself on a string-straight length of state or country highway. "Aha," said I, and ran my car, an '84 Mercedes 280CE coupe, up to 100 just for laughs. It was going well. Then a sign loomed up:

"WATCH FOR BISON ON ROAD"

I slowed down quick.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2026 10:31 PM (wzUl9)

87 Thanks CBD, for the well-rounded ONT.
Random comments…The Shaboozey video…
Not particularly into Country music, but this was respectable. Got into my head for a second, and realized my take on this would have been completely different if I was a deaf man.

Tom Morello plays his guitar with a brick, rather than a pick. Not unlike Neal Young on his Rust Never Sleeps album.

And American Cheese wrapped singles? No wonder they taste so awesome!

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2026 10:32 PM (Mxkwh)

88 85 I remember when Charlie Bronson starred in a western moby dick movie called the white buffalo. It would have better if Robert E Howard had written it.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone



Oh yea, I 'memba that one. I think Bronson was playing Buffalo Bill Cody. Can't remember that Indian sidekick with that was with him. I'll have to look it up. Been a while since I've seen it. Almost positive that it has NOT aged well.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 10:33 PM (sAmhv)

89 Last time I was in Yellowstone was late September. Not crowded at all, although the tranny-curious employee in one of the visitor centers was unpleasant.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:27 PM (l4RKn)

I think what I disliked about my last September visit to Yellowstone was that the Chinese tour buses were still there, but in far smaller numbers.

I wondered if they had skeeter sized drones scouting the area.

I ain't paranoid or nothin'

Your face is paranoid

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:33 PM (0aYVJ)

90 >>I hope grandpa is okay, that was a tough fall.

He made a comment earlier today on X that he was ok. I'm sure he's banged up, tough hit.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:34 PM (viF8m)

91 @73.
JackStraw if you do get back to Yellowstone remember "Don't feed the bears" because when it comes to food, they don't play.

Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 10:34 PM (IY9No)

92 Don’t make camp close to a herd of buffalo. Inevitably, one of the bulls will see the flame, and charge it, leading to much loss of human life.

And that’s how you get buffylo, campfire slayer.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:34 PM (77rzZ)

93 My gut tells me the cheese video is fake or something else besides cheese.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 13, 2026 10:35 PM (XV/Pl)

94 And American Cheese wrapped singles? No wonder they taste so awesome!

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2026 10:32 PM (Mxkwh)


I doubt very much that the video has anything to do with making Kraft American singles. But it's a glorious cheese, uniquely suited for certain things like burgers and scrambled eggs.

And I am a major league cheese snob!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:36 PM (l4RKn)

95 When the Beatles played here at a stadium in City Park in May of '64, it was the height of Beatlemania. The four lads stayed secretly at a hotel on U.S. Hwy. 90 in the east of the city, the Congress Inn. From what I heard, the place traded on that notoriety for decades before it closed.

Though I was only ten, I was aware of the Beatles. My Christmas present in '63 had been a compact transistor radio, on which I first heard the Fab Four (thinking their name was spelled "Beetles") on the local AM Top 40 station. I liked their stuff -- but I thought the Dave Clark Five and Chad & Jeremy would have the real staying power.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2026 10:36 PM (wzUl9)

96 Bless the Beasts & Children (1971)
A group of social misfits at a summer camp for boys run away to save penned-in buffaloes from a rifle club's slaughter.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026 10:37 PM (wVcYX)

97 OK, I have never been a fan of forced sterilization, even for violent criminals. It's a very slippery slope.

BUT... the fact that someone out there has a list of women who *bought garbage from a fuckin' celebrity wedding* makes for an almost irresistible temptation.

Maybe... just this *one* time...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2026 10:37 PM (BI5O2)

98 That cheese-making machine is also used for grinding up random anything, as shown in Doof's ONT Thursday.

xcancel.com/i/status
/2075237170126729439

Posted by: mindful webworker - the jaws of death at July 13, 2026 10:38 PM (ci8WY)

99 96 Sing to me, Karen Carpenter.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:38 PM (77rzZ)

100 Coolest places outside of Yellowstone and Custer SD I ever saw buffalo:

North Dakota Badlands

Antelope Island, Utah. (I think Johnny Dep filmed one of his faggy fragrance ads there)

Buffalo look different in different places.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:38 PM (0aYVJ)

101 Bless the Beasts & Children (1971)
A group of social misfits at a summer camp for boys run away to save penned-in buffaloes from a rifle club's slaughter.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026


***
I read it in the Reader's Digest Condensed Books version a year or so before the film. Good stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2026 10:39 PM (wzUl9)

102 Thanks for the ONT, CBD.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2026 10:39 PM (41CYW)

103 That UPS signature-required delivery I missed on Friday, because the driver showed up two hours before his delivery window? Well, I got it today, when the driver finally showed up 45 minutes after the delivery window ended.

Bastards.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (+EWjf)

104 You can’t rollerskate in a buffalo herd.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (yEz+x)

105 Wolfus, how goes the house search?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 Bless the Beasts & Children (1971)
A group of social misfits at a summer camp for boys run away to save penned-in buffaloes from a rifle club's slaughter.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026 10:37 PM (wVcYX)

HA! In junior high we both read the book and watched the movie. We called it "Bless the Beasts and the Little Fuckers."

True fact: Bill Mumy was Teft.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (0aYVJ)

107
Ace posted that "artist's conception" of a view inside Saturn's rings. Here's one of the most eerie images taken by Cassini:

https://t.ly/CMKbT

Cassini was in Saturn's shadow and the whole system is backlit. That's a very real image that looks almost unreal. Erf, Mars, and Venus are also in that image.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (w6EFb)

108 A European bison, oh, rocks!

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:41 PM (77rzZ)

109 >>>Oh yea, I 'memba that one. I think Bronson was playing Buffalo Bill Cody. Can't remember that Indian sidekick with that was with him. I'll have to look it up. Been a while since I've seen it. Almost positive that it has NOT aged well.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come

>It was Wild Bill Hickok and Crazy Horse, but close enough. Special effects weren't much then, but as a kid, I liked the concept.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2026 10:41 PM (sYM3s)

110 And American Cheese wrapped singles? No wonder they taste so awesome!

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2026 10:32 PM (Mxkwh)

I doubt very much that the video has anything to do with making Kraft American singles. But it's a glorious cheese, uniquely suited for certain things like burgers and scrambled eggs.

And I am a major league cheese snob!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:36 PM (l4RKn)


I didn't really like the Kraft singles. I tried real American cheese thanks to America's Test Kitchen. Boar's Head/Sargento. I liked it so much that I convinced my eldest to try some and now she'll have the real thing with me whenever I grill some burgers.

Posted by: Nerd Herd at July 13, 2026 10:41 PM (NZPfR)

111 You can’t rollerskate in a buffalo herd.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 13, 2026 10:40 PM (yEz+x)

My sister kept that Roger Miller record, from my Mom's estate. Gosh darn it anyway.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:42 PM (0aYVJ)

112 If someone you care about bought Taylor Swift's friends' garbage off the street so they could live vicariously through that random person's cigarette butt, abduct her and take her to cult deprogammer. Swifties are clinically insane.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2026 10:42 PM (BI5O2)

113 102 Or maybe we should thank the ONT for CBD?

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:43 PM (77rzZ)

114 You can’t rollerskate in a buffalo herd.


But you can be happy if you've a mind to . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 13, 2026 10:43 PM (Jr+re)

115 Wolfus, how goes the house search?

Demand to see the warrant!!

Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2026 10:44 PM (vTZFs)

116 “But it's a glorious cheese, uniquely suited for certain things like burgers and scrambled eggs.

And I am a major league cheese snob!”

Preach it Brother!

Every breakfast sandwich I make has a couple. Just wouldn’t be edible without them.
I’m no cheese snob, but love me some Swiss, and especially smoked Gouda.
It’s on my list to try on the smoker. Just fearful of making fondue…
Yesterday’s Short rib pics incoming soon…

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 13, 2026 10:44 PM (Mxkwh)

117 106 Billy Mumy put that bathtub in the White House?

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:46 PM (77rzZ)

118 A group of social misfits at a summer camp for boys run away to save penned-in buffaloes from a rifle club's slaughter.
Posted by: Count de Monet


Free Willy Buffy

Posted by: mindful webworker - dang vegans at July 13, 2026 10:46 PM (ci8WY)

119 I have not heard anything about California's wild fires. They ever get them under control? Is the Governor still "concerned" ?

Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 10:47 PM (IY9No)

120 If the cause of the Ethiopian famine had been a right-wing regime, it would probably be in every school curriculum alongside Live Aid.

The famine that produced the most-watched concert in history was caused by forced collectivization, forced grain seizures, and a deliberate policy of using hunger as a weapon against civilians. Four decades later, that half of the story still does not appear in most accounts of Live Aid.

Boom town rats suck

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:47 PM (/+uur)

121 I do not pretend to be a naturalist of any kind - and the other day I saw my first black bear EVER in the wild. It was about 17 feet away. And I was thankfully in my car.

Posted by: ... at July 13, 2026 10:47 PM (vE0+H)

122 >>JackStraw if you do get back to Yellowstone remember "Don't feed the bears" because when it comes to food, they don't play.

I'm pretty respectfully of animals. Lived in a few places in northern New England where bears and moose were common and taught and did commercial diving in the Caribbean where even dumber and toothier animals were ever present, particularly at night.

I'm too old to do stupid things now but I still like to see them. Crazy powerful animals.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:47 PM (viF8m)

123 The Eagle, the bison, the turkey:

What about... the beaver?

It likely saved Plymouth Plantation from a going-out-of-business sale.

You can't cultivate tobacco in Massachusetts, as Jamestown was doing in VA. The Pilgrims needed SOMETHING to trade for things they needed (plow blades & similar stuff), but couldn't make for themselves at the time.

Happily for William Bradford's progeny, they found something to export that the mother country really wanted: Beaver pelts.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 10:48 PM (RCjYY)

124 117 106 Billy Mumy put that bathtub in the White House?
Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:46 PM (77rzZ)

Now do the shitter

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:48 PM (/+uur)

125 @100 - the first time I went to devil's tower there were buffalo in a field a mile or so from it so I've got a few pics of buffaloes with the tower in the background

Posted by: 496 at July 13, 2026 10:48 PM (dZIAr)

126 I'm watching my stories. About them tornados.

Learned there's a place called Gaylord, Michigan.

Gaylords!

Posted by: It doesn't take much to amuse me at July 13, 2026 10:48 PM (oIVsY)

127 I have not heard anything about California's wild fires. They ever get them under control? Is the Governor still "concerned" ?
****
The only way Newsom is "concerned" is if he has a financial interest in the property...Just ask anyone in the Palisades or Altadena...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 13, 2026 10:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

128 Famous people get married in LA all the time.

Maybe I should start hanging around at these weddings, and boxing up the hobo crap and used needles from out front.

It's so romantic. This one has a peanut in it that symbolizes Sydney Sweeney's love! Who's going to be the lucky owner of this junkie's massive opiate turd, ladies? It could be YOU.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 13, 2026 10:49 PM (BI5O2)

129 Land O Lakes American is good among the "common" brands. I don't really dig Kraft. The higher tier Americans can be good but honestly Land O Lakes suffices for my croissant sandwiches and homemade McMuffins.

Posted by: ... at July 13, 2026 10:49 PM (vE0+H)

130
Bison: It makes clear that stupidity has consequences.

For sure. Near where I live, the Indians used to stampede them over cliffs and then skin/butcher the large numbers of them killed at the bottom.
The place is named Smashed in Head Buffalo jump.
Paleontologists have examined the site and say that 80% of the buffalo was wasted.

Posted by: Speller at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (pSotA)

131 Wolfus, how goes the house search?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 13, 2026


***
Thanks for asking. I video-toured one property on Sunday; living room was way too small. Today I spotted one in the town across the Wabash River, a beauty of a place and in my price range . . . but from what I hear, that area floods. This house is fairly close to the river. I do not want to go from one flood-prone area to another.

I looked at the FEMA flood maps and couldn't make out what they were showing, but there have been news stories, one as recent as 2013, about floods after heavy rains.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (wzUl9)

132 83 41 I can't believe you are down playing the bison attack in Yellowstone. Did you not see what happened to the guy? Do you have no shame?

https://tinyurl.com/yc3nej7e
Posted by: JackStraw
---

Never look a Buffalo in the eye.
Never stare at a Buffalo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (VPNgR)

133 Bison is good eating. Not Elk, but for wild game, it's pretty damn good.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 13, 2026 10:52 PM (QaH55)

134 Boom town rats suck

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:47 PM (/+uur)


Nah...

They are just stupid and ignorant...just like every other musician and celebrity in America

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:52 PM (l4RKn)

135 Side A: Our children need tablets and computers in K-12
Side B: We need 20 million illegals to shore up Social Security
Side C: We need higher school taxes and unions

Side D: Ok We will take our children and go home

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:52 PM (/+uur)

136 Never look a Buffalo in the eye.
Never stare at a Buffalo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (VPNgR)

Never give a Buffalo rye whiskey.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (qx7Zg)

137 Haven't bought a stick of Land o Lakes since she took Princess away.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (VPNgR)

138 Nah...

They are just stupid and ignorant...just like every other musician and celebrity in America
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2026 10:52 PM (l4RKn)

I hate people that sing I hate mondays should be the largest club in the world

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:54 PM (/+uur)

139 137 Haven't bought a stick of Land o Lakes since she took Princess away.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (VPNgR)

Land of Lakes Princess will return
will return
will return
*keyboard riff*

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:55 PM (/+uur)

140 I remember one time, after we left the east entrance, heading toward Pahaska. We saw a huge boar grizzly rear up on the side of the road . I stop. Bride jumps out of the car with her camera.

I had to yell "GET THE FUCK BACK IN THE CAR NOW!"

Good thing, the bear was not feeling sporty. He had already left.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:55 PM (0aYVJ)

141 Late. Guess everything's been said.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 10:56 PM (1Ff7Z)

142 >>You can't cultivate tobacco in Massachusetts

As it turns out, you can. Check out the tobacco barns of Connecticut.

My best friend is a descendant of a tobacco family that eventually sold out to what is now RJ Reynolds. The family farm was in New Jersey.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 10:56 PM (viF8m)

143 Haven't bought a stick of Land o Lakes since she took Princess away.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (VPNgR)


My mom used to cut the knees off on side of the box to make a flip-the-princess'-top gag. She gave them to friends for Christmas one year.

Posted by: Nerd Herd at July 13, 2026 10:56 PM (NZPfR)

144 There should be a tourist buffalo toss every eyar.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:56 PM (/+uur)

145 Thanks for another entertaining ONT, CBD!

Bison are not only large and moody, but they are also quite delicious!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 13, 2026 10:57 PM (D/6p1)

146 The Craighead family tagging a grizzly that came around too soon.
Grizzly tears up '58 Ford station wagon like it's made of paper mache'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:58 PM (VPNgR)

147 Good thing, the bear was not feeling sporty. He had already left.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:55 PM (0aYVJ)

My friend got 2 new wiifes doing that

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 13, 2026 10:58 PM (/+uur)

148 >>>>>>Bison is good eating. Not Elk, but for wild game, it's pretty damn good.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
*******
A buffalo rib-eye steak is as good as meat gets.

Posted by: Cosda at July 13, 2026 10:58 PM (Fg1gh)

149 Marco sounding tough! Both barrels to the effete ICC:

https://tinyurl.com/y2cxz6b6

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 10:58 PM (1Ff7Z)

150 You hear gossip about cattle through the bo-vine.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:59 PM (77rzZ)

151 Another father gun downed in Maine by ice in front of his young daughter. They used to wave the bloody shirt. Susan Collins runs in fear from angry protesters. Its times like these I have to explain to my fellow progressive democrats why we have a second amendment that you want to ban. Flashing a peace sign or writing a strongly worded letter as young girl crys over her dying father is not the answer.

Posted by: raimondo at July 13, 2026 11:00 PM (FeMn7)

152 So, about them zebus…

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

153 You hear gossip about cattle through the bo-vine.
Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 10:59 PM (77rzZ)

That's good Dad-joke material there. *fist-bump*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 11:01 PM (0aYVJ)

154 136 Never look a Buffalo in the eye.
Never stare at a Buffalo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (VPNgR)

Never give a Buffalo rye whiskey.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (qx7Zg)

Never engage in orgasm control and denial play with a buffalo.

Posted by: really using every part of the buffalo at July 13, 2026 11:02 PM (oIVsY)

155 153 *fist bump*

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:02 PM (77rzZ)

156 I posted this this afternoon, 5 seconds before it got NOODed.

Iran:

1) There are no moderates. That's a pipe dream, probably created by the IRGC .

2) Bombing radar sites and bass boats (albeit with machine guns) for the third night in a row hasn't made an impression.

3) Reinstating the oil embargo is good, but the IRGC is waiting A) for the election and B) for the new Congress to cut off funding for an unpopular war-- and it definitely IS unpopular. So..

4) Seize Kharg Island AND

5) Most importantly: publicly list 10 dams and power stations, & explain that we'll be destroying ONE of them every day. We did something quite similar with imperial Japan.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:04 PM (RCjYY)

157 Never dance with the devil in the pale moonlight.

Unless you are ready to party.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:04 PM (viF8m)

158 149 Marco sounding tough! Both barrels to the effete ICC:

https://tinyurl.com/y2cxz6b6

Posted by: OrangeEnt
---

Same day Trump sent a note to Congress advising them that we
are, again, at war with Iran.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:04 PM (VPNgR)

159 I do not care what the scientific name of the beast is.
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Trace
Buffalo Bill
Buffalo Bills

Again. This is my hill.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:06 PM (0aYVJ)

What about us?!

https://tinyurl.com/4pmd99s3

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 11:05 PM (1Ff7Z)

160 A good Bruce Springsteen act - better than the original!

https://youtu.be/1vT-VaMXsAw

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2026 11:05 PM (qx7Zg)

161 Never give a buffalo an even break.

Posted by: W. C. Fields at July 13, 2026 11:05 PM (wVcYX)

162 It's 6:40 AM in Tehran, we should be getting some good bomb damage video and assessment soon.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:06 PM (VPNgR)

163 >It was Wild Bill Hickok and Crazy Horse, but close enough. Special effects weren't much then, but as a kid, I liked the concept.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone



That makes sense since I was a kid when I last saw it. Little kid me liked it. Not sure the adult would. Maybe if John Carpenter remade it!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 11:06 PM (sAmhv)

164 American bison v. Cape buffalo. Who wins?

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:07 PM (77rzZ)

165 It's 6:40 AM in Tehran, we should be getting some good bomb damage video and assessment soon.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:06 PM (VPNgR)

We should play "It's 7 AM. IRCG, do you know where your leaders are? (Explosions)" to Iran.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 13, 2026 11:09 PM (qx7Zg)

166 Blowing up stuff last night.

https://tinyurl.com/3rdbzatz

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:10 PM (VPNgR)

167 142

Exporting tobacco cultivated in MA to England?

I guess the Pilgrims were idiots for never trying that at Plymouth!

Silly fools kind of decided beaver pelts might work better.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:11 PM (RCjYY)

168 120 If the cause of the Ethiopian famine had been a right-wing regime, it would probably be in every school curriculum alongside Live Aid.

The famine that produced the most-watched concert in history was caused by forced collectivization, forced grain seizures, and a deliberate policy of using hunger as a weapon against civilians. Four decades later, that half of the story still does not appear in most accounts of Live Aid.

Boom town rats suck
Posted by: r hennigantx



Bob Geldof was told, repeatedly, by both European and US officials, to NOT DO THIS! It will just exacerbate the problem. Bob did it anyway. That oozing sense of righteous smug won't scratch itself.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 13, 2026 11:12 PM (sAmhv)

169 I try not to get too deep into international affairs.

But this whole thing with the US vs Iran feels a lot like that one belligerent drunk who refuses to pass out. I knew a guy like that. He would get blind drunk, refuse to pass out. His cousin was pounding on his head. Never got the fucking clue.

And that, my friends, is my erudite political discourse for the evening.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, All Erudite and Stuff at July 13, 2026 11:12 PM (0aYVJ)

170 I remember the tobacco fields and barns in CT....

Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2026 11:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

171 @ImGinnyRobinson 8h
Trump should be impeached immediately.
We cannot merge our military with Israel’s.
THIS IS LITERAL TREASON.
---
A murder of crows
A flock of idiots

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:13 PM (VPNgR)

172 Wolfus, hang in there. The right house will come along and you'll know it when you see it!

Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2026 11:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

173 Indians grew tobacco in southern Ontario.

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:14 PM (77rzZ)

174 CND

Lucien Freud's triptychs are pretty attention getting.

Maybe try one sometime in the morning art thread?

The horde might be surprised and amused.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:15 PM (RCjYY)

175 If you would have asked me how long would it take to get the stuck excavator out, one and a half hours wouldn't have been one of my guesses if you gave me a hundred guesses.

Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2026 11:15 PM (/WQyy)

176 >>>Near where I live, the Indians used to stampede them over cliffs and then skin/butcher the large numbers of them killed at the bottom.
The place is named Smashed in Head Buffalo jump.
Paleontologists have examined the site and say that 80% of the buffalo was wasted.

Posted by: Speller

>Would you want to take every buffalo on one-on-one? They will fuck you up.

You exploit and utilize the herd mentality to serve your purpose. Stampede them off of a jump. Less pain more gain. Also that 80% fed wolves, coyotes, ravens, cougars, magpies, nothing was wasted.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2026 11:15 PM (sYM3s)

177 Our tomahawks are nowadays made in Japan.

Posted by: Cherokee People at July 13, 2026 11:17 PM (u/oMr)

178 174 sb "CBD," not CND

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:17 PM (RCjYY)

179 Do upper midwestern teenagers go to the buffalo races rather than the submarine races?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 13, 2026 11:18 PM (wVcYX)

180 Donald duck has got himself in a terrible jam way down yonder in Iranland!

Posted by: raimondo at July 13, 2026 11:18 PM (FeMn7)

181 >>Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:04 PM (RCjYY)

I don't think most have realized what is actually happening in Iran right now. For 50 years the Middle East has been torn between hating the Great Satan and of course Little Satan and pretended to care about Iran while allowing them to wreck havoc on the west and even their own interests while coddling the terrorist of the Muslim Brotherhood, most notably in "Palestine".

Whether you believe Trump's policies have done it or not, the entire Middle East is now united against Iran including duplicitous assholes in places like Qatar and making deals with Israel. The Arab street we are always told about might be angry but they are now angry at Iran. An aside from the tragic loss of a relatively small number of Americans we are pounding the shit out of Iran at will until they relent or we get tired of killing them and turning the country over to normal Iranians again.

New type of fighting instead of the failed type we've live through for 50 years. Have faith.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:19 PM (viF8m)

182 Is AR, Argentina? browser translated:

@laderechadiario 12 o'clock
THE FUCK IS OVER: Donald Trump announced the return of the naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz and its subsequent administration under the control of the United States, which will impose a 20% tariff on shipments that cross the route to guarantee the maintenance of the protection.

"The Strait of Hormuz is OPEN and will continue to be, with or without Iran. We reestablish the IRANIAN BLOCKADE, so called because it only prevents the entry and exit of Iranian ships or customers. All other countries will have fair and open use of the strait.
The United States will be known as «THE GUARDIAN OF THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ», but as such, and as a matter of JUSTICE, it will receive a 20% refund on all cargo transported, for all costs necessary to guarantee the security of this area so volatile of the world.

https://youtu.be/_LVS0UdkFMQ&t=24

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:19 PM (VPNgR)

183 American bison v. Cape buffalo. Who wins?
Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:07 PM (77rzZ)

I'd say Cape Buffalo. Just because of its hard head and larger horns. Both can kill you.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 11:21 PM (1Ff7Z)

184 We have black bears around here. I have seen a few at a distance. Most people leave them alone unless they get too near a home. And even then folks will just make a loud noise and let them run back to the woods. They are a protected animal anyway.

Posted by: Case at July 13, 2026 11:22 PM (IY9No)

185 Schrödinger’s Strait of Hormuz

Posted by: Bulg at July 13, 2026 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

186 181

I DON'T "have faith" that the same old same old is going to achieve a different result than it already has. No faith at all, I'm afraid.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:22 PM (RCjYY)

187 I remember the tobacco fields and barns in CT....
Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2026 11:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

What about dem cotton fields back home?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 11:22 PM (1Ff7Z)

188
143 Haven't bought a stick of Land o Lakes since she took Princess away.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 10:53 PM (VPNgR)

Same here. I switched to Falfurrias, a South Texas brand. I don’t think it’s sold outside of Texas, but it’s pretty good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 13, 2026 11:23 PM (wLnmp)

189 Speaking of tobacco:

Christopher Columbus sent a box of "cigarros" to the Pope.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:25 PM (RCjYY)

190 Shaboozey? A “musician”. Why?

RATM? They’re communists? Double Why.?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 13, 2026 11:25 PM (pKv0r)

191 Good evening morons und danke CBD.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2026 11:25 PM (RIvkX)

192 Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:19 PM (viF8m)

I think we were pretty united against Iraq in the first Gulf War but I agree its being repeated. Admittedly though the coalition was possible because Israel stayed out of it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2026 11:26 PM (/WQyy)

193 Dear Lord,

Preserve and protect Donald Trump and his loyal companions. He is truly doing your work. It may cost him his life. But he is not quitting the battle.

He is the right man at the right time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, All Erudite and Stuff at July 13, 2026 11:26 PM (0aYVJ)

194 Terrell County’s @SheriffThad, a Republican and outspoken supporter of President Trump and the administration’s border security measures, stands with @jamestalarico in Sanderson today.

He joined the campaign to speak against the plans for a border wall in Big Bend
--

It is funny.
Ever been to Big Bend?
A wall down the middle of the canyon? Really?
https://tinyurl.com/yr2wv6n6

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:28 PM (VPNgR)

195 They could simply station shooters on this side and touch them off when they cross the middle of the river.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:29 PM (VPNgR)

196 New type of fighting instead of the failed type we've live through for 50 years. Have faith.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:19 PM (viF8m)
====

I have found it very difficult to get reliable information.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 13, 2026 11:29 PM (RIvkX)

197 If I substitute ground bison for the ground beef in my meatloaf recipe, will that make it a buffaloaf?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2026 11:29 PM (+EWjf)

198 Best time to be in Yellowstone is
......

before the super volcano blows.

Posted by: wth at July 13, 2026 11:29 PM (oq9dX)

199 Same here. I switched to Falfurrias, a South Texas brand. I don’t think it’s sold outside of Texas, but it’s pretty good.

Posted by: Tom Servo
--

Real butter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:30 PM (VPNgR)

200 >>I DON'T "have faith" that the same old same old is going to achieve a different result than it already has. No faith at all, I'm afraid.

No problem. Many of you never thought Trump was going to win in 24. That turned out ok.

Iran is done. They literally have no power to fight back. It's only a matter of how much damage we do until it's over.

I'm more interested in what happens on Thursday evening. We are getting so spoiled we don't even recognize how many enormous changes are happening right now that will never happen.

Cheer up. It's ok to win.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:30 PM (viF8m)

201

I DON'T "have faith" that the same old same old is going to achieve a different result than it already has. No faith at all, I'm afraid.
Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:22 PM (RCjYY)

It might be that the best path is just to keep heavy pressure on them and see if they crack. I suspect that when they finally break, they’ll shatter.
(One possibility is everyone in leadership deciding to kill everyone else)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 13, 2026 11:31 PM (wLnmp)

202 sorry lads, according to the Church of England, Israel is a racist state
jpost.com/international/article-902369

Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2026 11:31 PM (gKWVE)

203 Iran's got some debts to pay that Geo Bush & Co. were too chickenshit to collect. Lot of guys aren't here or are in trouble because of Iran in the Gulf War.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:33 PM (VPNgR)

204 Ev'rybody's got a water buffalo, yours is fast but mine is slow....

https://youtu.be/ltG37Bbx1qk

Posted by: pookysgirl can do this one by heart at July 13, 2026 11:33 PM (Wt5PA)

205 My family was walking on a wide trail near the falls on the Yellowstone River, with other people, when a small herd of bison started moving parallel to the group on the other side of a stand of lodgepole pines. We were grateful that the trees were between us and them.

And now, I regularly pass a small ranch which was set up to keep a few bison, with heavy fencing made of sturdy metal pipes. Much stronger than fencing for cattle. The bison haven't been there for a few years, but they were always a bit of a contrast on a trip home from Walmart or the dentist.

Posted by: KT at July 13, 2026 11:33 PM (rdeQO)

206 202 sorry lads, according to the Church of England, Israel is a racist state
jpost.com/international/article-902369

Posted by: gKWVE
--

Think the US Episcopal diocese signed one of those too.

-- it appears that these people did not read the first half of the Bible and possibly not the second half.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:35 PM (VPNgR)

207 The Horde, & I include myself, is not a representative sample of the electorate. Let alone Congress.

How long do you think Congress and the public will support this war?

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:39 PM (RCjYY)

208 sorry lads, according to the Church of England, Israel is a racist state
jpost.com/international/article-902369

Posted by: gKWVE
--

Think the US Episcopal diocese signed one of those too.

-- it appears that these people did not read the first half of the Bible and possibly not the second half.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:35 PM (VPNgR)

***

A lot of people in those churches. I wonder if God goes there?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 11:39 PM (2WIwB)

209 I thought Tay Tay was an unperson for wanting to have babies with an Aryan. Lol

Posted by: Facts at July 13, 2026 11:41 PM (Xe8e7)

210 So I believe ShowerCam™ is disabled in my shower... by popular demand of the Ewoks. They took one long and ran away screaming to go gut a hobo.

Is that a problem?

Posted by: SimoHayha at July 13, 2026 11:41 PM (/ZkOF)

211 Tay Tay better hurry up. Her baby clock is at 5 minutes 'till midnight.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:43 PM (RCjYY)

212 Out there looking for coverage of Iran's third night of joy I find much nutjobbery. It is easy for the undisciplined mind to find much opinion contrary to reality.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:43 PM (VPNgR)

213 There is a certain poetic justice knowing that the Church of England will be burned to the ground by the very Muslims it’s allying with.

Posted by: Facts at July 13, 2026 11:44 PM (Xe8e7)

214 New type of fighting instead of the failed type we've live through for 50 years. Have faith.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:19 PM (viF8m)


Or rediscovering the old.ways.
I wonder if we have been spinning up Arab ground forces to be the boots on the ground?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 11:44 PM (2WIwB)

215 I don't know how the WNBA made me hate something I've never watched. Racist lesbians be crazy.

Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2026 11:44 PM (/WQyy)

216 >>How long do you think Congress and the public will support this war?

Well Trump just sent a new war declaration to Congress so that starts the 60 day clock again.

https://tinyurl.com/adserahc

Some of you really need to get over the idea that Trump is an idiot. Turns out he's pretty smart.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:45 PM (viF8m)

217
Sorry to be obtuse, but how do we charge a 20% fee on all cargo shipped through the Strait? I like the idea -- the US shouldn't keep doing this stuff for free -- but how do we collect these fees?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:46 PM (mmrXZ)

218
The operator of the sunk excavator watched the recovery from a distance, from a place of concealment -- for a while. Unemployed, shunned, having lost the respect of other men, after he'd watched the masterful recovery operation long enough to get the gist of it, to see that he could never measure up, he quietly left. He crawled into a bottle that day, and didn't come back. He did not survive a year.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 13, 2026 11:47 PM (VWtfl)

219 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:46 PM (mmrX

Like a cover charge before you can enter the club.

Posted by: polynikes at July 13, 2026 11:47 PM (/WQyy)

220 189 Speaking of tobacco:

Christopher Columbus sent a box of "cigarros" to the Pope.

Posted by: mnw at July 13, 2026 11:25 PM (RCjYY)

"Cigarros" LOL, I can't stop thinking about tomorr.... I mean that name, Cigarros!

Posted by: William Jefferson Blythe III at July 13, 2026 11:47 PM (R0XxO)

221 but how do we collect these fees?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia
---

Do you want your tanker to pass the blockade?
Here is the routing number for your tanker.
We do not accept PayPal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:48 PM (VPNgR)

222
Do you want your tanker to pass the blockade?
Here is the routing number for your tanker.
We do not accept PayPal.

Posted by: Braenyard

=============

Okay. So, both sides of the Strait? Omani and Iranian?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:50 PM (mmrXZ)

223 >>>Tay Tay better hurry up. Her baby clock is at 5 minutes 'till midnight.

Posted by: mnw

>So is Tay Tay going to have a batch of ugly babies like the Kardashians? How many plastic surgeons can you fit into a uterus?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 13, 2026 11:50 PM (sYM3s)

224 It is funny.
Ever been to Big Bend?
A wall down the middle of the canyon? Really?
https://tinyurl.com/yr2wv6n6

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:28 PM (VPNgR)

LOL. There will never be more than a handful even trying to come through Big Bend, it’s too rugged. If you wanted to do something, then set up outposts on the park roads going in and out (which I’m sure has been done)

A fun discovery recently in Big Bend showcased how remote and rarely visited much of it is. A researcher was exploring a rock cave and found an ancient hunting kit - a leather pouch with spear points, an atlatl, some stone tipped darts, a throwing stick, and a folded animal pelt next to it. They estimate that all of it had been sitting there untouched for at least 6,000 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 13, 2026 11:50 PM (wLnmp)

225 A lot of people in those churches. I wonder if God goes there?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2026 11:39 PM (2WIwB)

They better hope not.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 13, 2026 11:51 PM (gKWVE)

226 >>but how do we collect these fees?

Paypal.

How did Trump get NATO countries to finally start paying their dues?

Do you know who buys most if Iran's oil? China. Venezuela was also where China got their oil.

Strategery.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:51 PM (viF8m)

227 he's pretty smart.

Posted by: JackStraw
---

He owns the casino.
He's the house.
He's at the table collecting Iranian chips.
It appears he's upped the game to
three raise no limit.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2026 11:52 PM (VPNgR)

228 Trump owns a lot of casinos. They are not easy to run profitably and still keep customers coming back.
Probably why he likes golf clubs better

Posted by: Kindltot at July 13, 2026 11:54 PM (rbvCR)

229
217
Sorry to be obtuse, but how do we charge a 20% fee on all cargo shipped through the Strait? I like the idea -- the US shouldn't keep doing this stuff for free -- but how do we collect these fees?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:46 PM (mmrXZ)

Like this!
** stands straight, holds arms up, waves Hands wildly **

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 13, 2026 11:54 PM (wLnmp)

230 Sorry to be obtuse, but how do we charge a 20% fee on all cargo shipped through the Strait? I like the idea -- the US shouldn't keep doing this stuff for free -- but how do we collect these fees?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:46 PM (mmrXZ)

We just seize every fifth tanker!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 13, 2026 11:57 PM (1Ff7Z)

231
226

Do you know who buys most if Iran's oil? China. Venezuela was also where China got their oil.

Strategery.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2026 11:51 PM (viF8m)

--------

The CCP did not pay for the oil in dollars, but in a unique scrip redeemable only at the CCP company store, where it could be spent on hot items like state-of-the-art air defense radars that can detect any US stealth aircraft 300 miles away.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 13, 2026 11:57 PM (VWtfl)

232
Do you know who buys most if Iran's oil? China. Venezuela was also where China got their oil.

Strategery.
Posted by: JackStraw

===========

But Trump said "all cargo." Like I said, I don't mind, but I'm just wondering how it all works.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2026 11:57 PM (mmrXZ)

233
Damn Microsoft to hell. Long story, but damn them to hell.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:00 AM (w6EFb)

234 There have been 7 elections in Latin/South America in the last year. Trump endorsed rightwing candidates have won all 7, often over proclaimed communists.

>>Mr Trump's king-making has proved to be the kiss of death to decades of Left-wing rule across much of the continent, with all seven presidential elections won by his allies since he took office.

https://tinyurl.com/5467ku52

Just lucky I guess.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 12:01 AM (viF8m)

235 I believe the demise of USAID had a huge effect on the South American political climate.

For decades we’ve been paying to support our worst enemies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2026 12:03 AM (wLnmp)

236 Ha!
Mrs D just found old reruns of Kolchak. Jeez. His narrations are hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2026 12:04 AM (2WIwB)

237 No shipping moves without insurance, Blonde Morticia. The value of the hulls, the crew and the cargo is too high to act like a tramp and go bare. The shipping companies were used to buying insurance from the London insurance market, mostly, and Lloyds shut that down for the duration of the war, unlike every other time there was a blow up in the Persian Gulf, so Trump stood in.
Anyone can offer insurance, but it takes deep pockets and reputation of actually paying out to get the policies.
As it has been in the past, the USN has been policing the ocean to keep problems down, and London has been writing the policies and profiting.
This is just a change that the USA is now getting paid for what the USN always has been doing.

TLDR: the companies come to the US for the policies, not the other way around. No one stiffs Uncle Sam for long. We have battleships and can enforce liens on the high seas

Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2026 12:05 AM (rbvCR)

238 38 Guess everybody needs a hill.
Posted by: Case

Bill didn't. What the hell was he thinking anyway? What did he get out of the arrangement? Seriously.

Rich and the presidency. The question is whether putting up with her for your adult life is worth it for those things.

Posted by: Azjaeger at July 14, 2026 12:06 AM (3/XaG)

239
235 I believe the demise of USAID had a huge effect on the South American political climate.

For decades we’ve been paying to support our worst enemies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2026 12:03 AM

-------

The world I thought I knew is far more scripted and fake than I ever imagined. A stage play.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 14, 2026 12:07 AM (VWtfl)

240 Damn Microsoft to hell. Long story, but damn them to hell.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:00 AM (w6EFb)

(Ring... ring... phone picks up) Microsoft Technical Support. How may I be breaking your computer today?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 14, 2026 12:08 AM (qx7Zg)

241
Hey, publius, great news about your mom! Make sure she knows she had a horde of morons pulling for her.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 12:08 AM (mmrXZ)

242 It's nutz out there
anyway

"TAMPA, Fla. — U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) completed the latest wave of strikes against Iran at 10:15 p.m. ET on July 13.

During the five-hour mission, U.S. forces successfully struck military targets across Iran including Bushehr, Chah Bahar, Jask, Konarak, Abu Musa, and Bandar Abbas to further degrade Iran's ability to attack commercial shipping. CENTCOM forces employed precision munitions against Iranian coastal defense systems, missile and drone sites, and maritime capabilities.

More than 50,000 U.S. service members are currently deployed across the Middle East. American forces remain vigilant, lethal, and ready."

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:09 AM (VPNgR)

243 >>But Trump said "all cargo." Like I said, I don't mind, but I'm just wondering how it all works.

For decades, our international power has been projected by, for lack of a better term, the deep state. The intel community in the guise of things like USAID and NGOs but was in reality the CIA/State Department and related bureaucratic institutions and power brokers on the outside while elected officials worked under their orbit. Those days are over.

That was the biggest part of the DOGE and other efforts to start kneecapping those forces. It wasn't just about domestic power. We are returning to the time of a powerful chief executive with the full force of American military and equally important financial power is in his control and the entire decision structure of the world is changing.

The United States of America has been the most powerful and consequential power on the face of earth for generations. The only that has changed is we are finally asserting it. And the world is responding.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 12:11 AM (viF8m)

244 we bombed Joy Behar?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 14, 2026 12:12 AM (gKWVE)

245 >> Hey, publius, great news about your mom!

There is no question this was a miracle. Absolutely no question. My mind is still reeling over this.

The docs and nurses at the hospital thought she was gone, and advised me to well, "let nature take its course" I'll phrase it. But I said keep treating her for one more day, which was Sunday.

I had made peace, talked to friends and family, and even had the financial people to be prepared for all the would have to be done.

This morning I was going to go up there and do it, letting her go, but I was dragging my feet about it. And when I got there, there she was, sitting up in a chair in the room, having finished eating lunch. She saw me, smiled, and said she was starting to get lonely and was glad to see us.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

246 236 Ha!
Mrs D just found old reruns of Kolchak. Jeez. His narrations are hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes
---

See him in the Mike Hammer series?
He beat up the pharmacist every episode.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:14 AM (VPNgR)

247
There is always hope. Always. And let this be an example. No matter how bad things are, there is hope.

She looks like she went for a couple of rounds with Mike Tyson, absolute mess. But she's back.

The change is just amazing. Saturday night, she was lying there, completely out of her mind, flailing her arms and hands around, writhing in bed, trying to move her legs and squirm all over the beds. They had to sedate her. And it took a good bit. They were giving her stuff I would've normally objected to, but at that point, given her state of agitation, it had to be done.

Sunday, she was just laying there, completely out of it. I touched her, and she started trying to writhe and flail around. So, I didn't do that again. The nurses would have to touch her of course, but other that, I didn't want to trigger it.

And that was the state I left her in last night. And this this morning, a miracle.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:18 AM (w6EFb)

248 in odd news, James "Fergie" Cox Chambers Jr., a prominent US billionaire and activist, was detained in Ibiza under an international warrant. The charges and requesting country remain undisclosed. It is rumored to be money laundering and the charges are said to be from the US DoJ, and the Spanish radical left is really upset about it.
Also, he used to own some gyms in Georgia and had supposedly employed Marjorie Taylor Green, which is odd

https://tinyurl.com/pbbe49tz

Posted by: Kindltot at July 14, 2026 12:19 AM (rbvCR)

249 > all seven presidential elections won by his allies since he took office.

https://tinyurl.com/5467ku52

Just lucky I guess.

Posted by: JackStraw
--

Hemispheric independence, hemispheric dominance.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2lSwosw9xY

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:19 AM (VPNgR)

250
In the hospital, I called some of her dearest friends. Some of these are her young girlfriends, frying chickens in their 80s. I just said a miracle has happened, and someone is going to talk to you, and I put my mother on the phone.

The joy that caused, well, it was a beautiful thing.

She has no idea what happened, no memory of the past week or two at all. Which is a good thing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

251 And that was the state I left her in last night. And this this morning, a miracle.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:18 AM (w6EFb)

Wow what a horrible thing to have to see, and for her to suffer. What a blessing it ended.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2026 12:22 AM (wLnmp)

252 Trump's breathe still stinjs and th a ts bothers us..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 14, 2026 12:23 AM (kBcTc)

253 >>She has no idea what happened, no memory of the past week or two at all. Which is a good thing.

Happy for your mom and you.

Before I lost my dad he suffered from a couple UTIs that produced similar issues. Took some additional testing to discover. Just a thought you might want to consider. Doctors don't always get everything right the first time.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 12:28 AM (viF8m)

254 >> Doctors don't always get everything right the first time.

Giving her blood thinners for the clots was a disaster, and that's what put her down this road. An emergency fasciotomy was needed on her left calf to save her for compartment syndrome due to the bleeding and hematoma. And I think, *think* mind you, the anesthesia for that is what threw her brain for a loop. This is *bad* for the elderly. Once you get close to 80, avoid if it all possible.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:33 AM (w6EFb)

255 It is rumored to be money laundering and the charges are said to be from the US DoJ
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Clip I saw said it is DoJ and money laundering is just the beginning.
Close associate to [I found it]

arrested in Ibiza at the request of the US Justice Department ... extradition on federal charges linked to "international money laundering… with the intent to provide material support to and resources to foreign terrorist organizations,"

associated with ... Roy Singham's NGO's, ANSWER Coalition, Party for Socialism and Liberation, and Newsclick, ... student and campus mobilization networks
( Students for Justice in Palestine) and political prisoner advocacy groups.

Chambers' own Berkshire Communists project in Massachusetts has served as a local hub for organizing and arms training within this network.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:33 AM (VPNgR)

256
the USN has been policing the ocean to keep problems down, and London has been writing the policies and profiting.
This is just a change that the USA is now getting paid for what the USN always has been doing.

Posted by: Kindltot

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See that's why I like it. All this free security service is coming to an end.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 12:33 AM (mmrXZ)

257 own some gyms in Georgia and had supposedly employed Marjorie Taylor Green, which is odd

https://tinyurl.com/pbbe49tz

Posted by: Kindltot
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But may explain her odd behavior.
thought it was roids

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:35 AM (VPNgR)

258 Posted by: Kindltot

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See that's why I like it. All this free security service is coming to an end.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone
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Wonder what Chairman Xi is thinking right now?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:36 AM (VPNgR)

259 >>Once you get close to 80, avoid if it all possible.

Genetics will likely help me avoid 80 altogether. No complaints.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 12:41 AM (viF8m)

260 The only that has changed is we are finally asserting it.

Shades of Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:42 AM (VPNgR)

261 There is no question this was a miracle…
Posted by: publius


This is just the kind of report for which we've been hoping and praying. May she continue to recover and be restored!
👼🏻

Posted by: mindful webworker - thank the Lord at July 14, 2026 12:43 AM (ci8WY)

262 Genetics will likely help me avoid 80 altogether. No complaints.

Posted by: JackStraw
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You'll be amazed what good docs and hospitals can do.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:44 AM (VPNgR)

263

Just took time to watch a video about left- right-brain differences, the studies, and the origins of the split. Didn't learn a whole lot I didn't already understand, but there were some great details and experiments.
Why Evolution Split Your Brain In Half – Brain Asymmetry with Jim Al-Khalili (34:56)
https://youtu.be/ybuhqtDVO_A

"Having a split, asymmetric brain isn't a flaw. It's an evolutionary masterstroke."

Imagine if there were world where there were other brain configurations and the differences that would cause.

The one physical uniformity of mortals is the brain and nervous system; nevertheless, there are three basic organizations of the brain mechanism: the one-, the two-, and the three-brained types.
https://bit.ly/ub-brain-types
😁

A parting music two-fer
https://youtu.be/Qw8E9WnZTQk
https://youtu.be/kvmkp1n0dZY

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - have a blessed tomorrow at July 14, 2026 12:44 AM (ci8WY)

264
Peter Falk died with dementia. There at the last, they said he didn't even know who Columbo was.

His dementia was likely triggered by general anesthesia for some major oral surgery her needed.

As it stands, they don't think general can cause dementia, but that it will accelerate any that has started. It might never progress fast enough otherwise to get bad before you die of other things.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:44 AM (w6EFb)

265
He wanted to make one last Columbo movie/episode, and that was in the works, but the dementia stopped that.

There is only one Columbo, and I'm glad Hollywood realized that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:46 AM (w6EFb)

266 Did you see the Michael Savage clip Trump linked?

Used to listen to him. His dad died at 55 of a heart attack. Genetic in the family. According to GPT 5. Savage is 84. He references his first health book written in 1972 iirc.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:51 AM (VPNgR)

267
Wonder what Chairman Xi is thinking right now?

Posted by: Braenyard

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It's enough to make me miss the Russkies. I know the commies were evil and maybe the society is coarse, but there was something to appeal to. There was even self-restraint. The Chinese on the other hand...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 12:52 AM (mmrXZ)

268 .>> "Having a split, asymmetric brain isn't a flaw. It's an evolutionary masterstroke."

Imagine if there were world where there were other brain configurations and the differences that would cause.

The one physical uniformity of mortals is the brain and nervous system; nevertheless, there are three basic organizations of the brain mechanism: the one-, the two-, and the three-brained types.
https://bit.ly/ub-brain-types
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Now do two brained women.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 12:54 AM (VPNgR)

269 Now we know why JackStraw (whom I once dubbed "JackWeed") smokes pot.

[Question:]
In which city is it illegal to smoke a pipe after sunset?

[Answer:]
Newport, Rhode Island

Posted by: ShainS -- Tricentennial or Bust! at July 14, 2026 12:55 AM (MEOPz)

270 @259.
JackStraw. "Genetics will likely help me avoid 80 altogether."

Well, JackStraw some things we just don't know.
Hope you stick around for a long while. I enjoy your take on things. When you post I take notice.🙂

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2026 01:02 AM (IY9No)

271 >>Newport, Rhode Island

I don't live in Newport. Wrong island.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 01:03 AM (viF8m)

272
In one-step-back news, the UC system has shelved plans to discuss reinstating the SAT. Last- minute decision, no expansion given.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 01:05 AM (mmrXZ)

273 Yahoo article: Catherine Bouris, Mon, July 13, 2026 at 3:37 AM CDT, says he is 80.

This presentation is good if you're not familiar with him. He's bombastic but scores points. And it's a good one for those uninitiated on communism.
Thing on this one is that Trump brought it forward and linked to it, therefore Trump doesn't disagree. He's chumming the water.
On the 8th Trump suggested that all illegals should be deported. This is an escalation.

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MUST BE CRIMINALIZED; LEADERS DEPORTED

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MUST BE CRIMINALIZED; LEADERS DEPORTED

Jul 12, 2026, 5:12 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mGpfhO-lg

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 01:07 AM (VPNgR)

274 Sorry CBD, but Orange Velveeta American Cheese Food is the Devil's smegma.

Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2026 01:09 AM (98xTj)

275 Aren't there places where they rent all kinds of earth moving equipment to 29+ year old 'kids' to push piles of dirt around?

I'd love to do that.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2026 10:01 PM (VmkSV)

I am getting temporary custody of a little Kubota trackhoe next month. Hope to be able to use it to dig a pit next to my septic tank so I can get down in there and patch a leak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:10 AM (1z8ji)

276 Orange Velveeta American Cheese Food is the Devil's smegma.

Posted by: Butch
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Noooo. Double boiler, Velveeta, Rotel tomatoes, more tomatoes and jalapenos, some cilantro with onion and garlic. mmmmm
If you want to get kinky throw in a can of okra gumbo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 01:13 AM (VPNgR)

277 Double boiler, Velveeta, Rotel tomatoes, more tomatoes and jalapenos, some cilantro with onion and garlic. mmmmm
If you want to get kinky throw in a can of okra gumbo.
Posted by: Braenyard


The cilantro was kinky. Adding gumbo is perverted.

Posted by: mikeski at July 14, 2026 01:16 AM (VHUov)

278 >>Well, JackStraw some things we just don't know.
Hope you stick around for a long while. I enjoy your take on things. When you post I take notice

Well thanks. I don't plan on going anywhere just yet.

This is a special place filled with smart and interesting people. Hard to believe a Vespa riding, man purse wearing guy did this but here we are and here I am after many years.

Goodnight all and thanks for the chat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 01:16 AM (viF8m)

279 Coolest places outside of Yellowstone and Custer SD I ever saw buffalo:

North Dakota Badlands

Antelope Island, Utah. (I think Johnny Dep filmed one of his faggy fragrance ads there)

Buffalo look different in different places.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 13, 2026 10:38 PM (0aYVJ)

Several buffalo ranches within a few miles of Peon Manor here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:20 AM (1z8ji)

280 I am getting temporary custody of a little Kubota trackhoe next month. Hope to be able to use it to dig a pit next to my septic tank so I can get down in there and patch a leak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:10 AM (1z8ji)

Sounds like a shitty job. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:21 AM (S41Gd)

281 AOP, whats the verdict on that nightmare engine? Studebaker was it?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:22 AM (S41Gd)

282 @193 Are you on dope? Or are you just a dope. I don't like trump nor hate him as he is doing more for my side then his and the election is coming. If I am really lucky dump will try and sabotage the election.

Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 01:25 AM (FeMn7)

283 For sure. Near where I live, the Indians used to stampede them over cliffs and then skin/butcher the large numbers of them killed at the bottom.
The place is named Smashed in Head Buffalo jump.
Paleontologists have examined the site and say that 80% of the buffalo was wasted.
Posted by: Speller at July 13, 2026 10:51 PM (pSotA)

Heh. I am about 20 miles from Dry Island Buffalo Jump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:25 AM (1z8ji)

284 Howdy, horde!

Many topics tonight, I see.

I got nuthin' so will just lurk a while.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:29 AM (rdVOm)

285 This morning I was going to go up there and do it, letting her go, but I was dragging my feet about it. And when I got there, there she was, sitting up in a chair in the room, having finished eating lunch. She saw me, smiled, and said she was starting to get lonely and was glad to see us.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

Great news, publius!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:38 AM (1z8ji)

286 I wonder if the Buffalo ever stampeded the Indians?

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2026 01:39 AM (IY9No)

287 Hmm. *looks around* Oh, well.

*steps over to bar & helps self*

There.. that's better!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:40 AM (rdVOm)

288
Heh. I am about 20 miles from Dry Island Buffalo Jump.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:25 AM (1z8ji)

The first time I drove through AB I spent the night in Lethbridge. Heading north to Calgary, I passed signs pointing the way to “Head-Smashed-In”. I figured I’d pass. : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2026 01:41 AM (pKv0r)

289 This morning I was going to go up there and do it, letting her go, but I was dragging my feet about it. And when I got there, there she was, sitting up in a chair in the room, having finished eating lunch. She saw me, smiled, and said she was starting to get lonely and was glad to see us.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

Great news, publius!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Wow! Great news indeed!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:41 AM (rdVOm)

290 Hi JQ, that is me too, I just got here, very happy to see that the Mama of publius has been revitalized, that is such good news.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 01:42 AM (ibDUx)

291 Hi, Debby! Care for a drink? My treat...

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:43 AM (rdVOm)

292 The United States of America has been the most powerful and consequential power on the face of earth for generations. The only that has changed is we are finally asserting it. And the world is responding.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 14, 2026 12:11 AM (viF8m)

Much to your chagrin. Or are YOU suddenly running around singing “Yankee Doodle Dandy”?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2026 01:44 AM (pKv0r)

293 AOP, whats the verdict on that nightmare engine? Studebaker was it?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:22 AM (S41Gd)

Yes. A "Skybolt" six. Took it to the machine shop today to get a crank ground, and the bearing saddles line-honed. Showed the oil pickup pipe to the manager, and he agreed that use of an improper gasket likely led to an air leak that starved the pump of oil, leading to destruction of the bearings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:46 AM (1z8ji)

294 Small miracle here in podunk, too-- hubby is back to calling me by his XW's name-- which is better than *not being recognized at all*!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:47 AM (rdVOm)

295 Ooh, il n'y a pas de pain, laissez-les manger du gâteau
Il n'y a pas de fin à ce qu'ils prendront
Afficher les fruits de la noble naissance
Laver le sel dans la terre
Mais ils marchent pour le jour de la Bastille
La guillotine réclamera son prix sanglant
Libérez les donjons des innocents
Eh bien, le roi doit s'agenouiller pour laisser son royaume s'élever

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2026 01:47 AM (pKv0r)

296
Velours taché de sang, dentelle sale
Peur nue sur chaque visage
Voyez-les incliner la tête pour mourir
Comme nous nous inclinions quand ils sont passés
Et ils marchent pour le jour de la Bastille
La guillotine réclamera son prix sanglant
Chantez, ou chœurs de cacophonie
Eh bien, le roi s'est agenouillé pour laisser son royaume s'élever

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2026 01:48 AM (pKv0r)

297 Leçons enseignées mais jamais apprises
Tout autour de nous, la colère brûle
Guider l'avenir par le passé
Il y a longtemps, le moule a été coulé
Car ils ont marché vers le jour de la Bastille
La guillotine a remporté son prix sanglant
Entendre les échos des siècles
Eh bien, le pouvoir n'est pas tout ce que l'argent achète

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2026 01:50 AM (pKv0r)

298 Happy Bastille Day!

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2026 01:50 AM (pKv0r)

299 Yessss please. Cheers!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 01:51 AM (ibDUx)

300 @292 As tonto said to the lone ranger. "What you mean WE white man! Dump is helping get rid of corporate democrats protecting rethugliKKKans like netanyahu's bit*h chuck strongly worded letters schumer. This time we get in we open up the re-education camps for dumpsters.

Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 01:51 AM (FeMn7)

301 Cheers, Debby!

It was hot again today-- 100*

I'm too old for this sh!t. Stayed mostly indoors, except for moving sprinklers. Need to shop for some more no- and quick-cook meal stuff!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

302 Yes. A "Skybolt" six. Took it to the machine shop today to get a crank ground, and the bearing saddles line-honed. Showed the oil pickup pipe to the manager, and he agreed that use of an improper gasket likely led to an air leak that starved the pump of oil, leading to destruction of the bearings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:46 AM (1z8ji)

Jeez, wrong oil pump gasket? Its always the little fuck ups that cause the big damage.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:55 AM (S41Gd)

303 This time we get in we open up the re-education camps for dumpsters.
Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 01:51 AM (FeMn7)

Who is going to run them when all the Democrats have been rendered out for their grease to make biodiesel?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:56 AM (1z8ji)

304 This time we get in we open up the re-education camps for dumpsters.
Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 01:51 AM (FeMn7)

Who is going to run them when all the Democrats have been rendered out for their grease to make biodiesel?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 01:56 AM (1z8ji)

Right? They'll fucking die in numbers that will make WW1 trench warfare look like a canoe accident.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:58 AM (S41Gd)

305 Bastille Day was my great uncle's birthday, he was quite a character.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 02:00 AM (ibDUx)

306 Don't mind rainman.. he's just yanking it to his Bolshevik daydreams.

How's that soviet sh!t goin' for ya now, tovarish?

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:02 AM (rdVOm)

307 Exactly what is your dumb fucking ass going to reeducate me on?
Stupid fucker.

That threat goes to levels you fuckers haven't admitted to.
That's real war talk. The kind of war where...

Nevermind.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2026 02:05 AM (ftycQ)

308 Jeez, wrong oil pump gasket? Its always the little fuck ups that cause the big damage.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 01:55 AM (S41Gd)

Pickup screen gasket. The pickup screen is attached to a crooked steel tube which is bolted to the bottom of the block just inside the pan rail, and right below the oil pump. There is a thick metal flange brazed to the tube, with a single 1/4-20 screw to retain the assembly to the block. About 1/4" of the tube goes into the large passage on the block that feeds the oil pump, and a thin paper gasket makes the seal. Used on the Champion series engines since 1939. Never been a problem area. Somebody used a round fiber washer, like an oil pan drain plug washer, instead of the paper gasket. Washer in excess of 1/16" thick. And really reefed down on that poor little 1/4-20 screw. Well, that had the effect of cocking the pickup tube in the bore, and putting fierce pressure on one side of the washer, and practically none on the other. So the oil pump began sucking air.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:05 AM (1z8ji)

309 >> Wow! Great news indeed!

I was blown away.

As they've always told me, my mother is one tough lady. I'm a believer.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 02:07 AM (w6EFb)

310 @306 I am more dangerous then a commie. I own my own small business and practice what I preach non-exploitive capitalism. Remember its not just communists who are your enemy many capitalism supporters are you enemy too and your socialist diatribes don't work on us.

Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 02:08 AM (FeMn7)

311 Was so hot, even Cat snoozed indoors for a while. I love how he *flops* himself down and stretches out fully on the cool tile floor... I'm so glad to provide relief for him!

Also funny when he turns flat on his back, with all fours up, and sleeps. Occasional leg twitches.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:08 AM (rdVOm)

312 @310

*shake weight motion*

Whatever.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

313
And in another miracle, I was able to fix the Microsoft mess up, too. I avoid "Microsoft accounts" like the plague. They made extended security updates for Windows 10 free until Oct. 2027, and I "enrolled" in that.

Only problem is, you have to have a MS account to do that, it's in the fine print, and so it just happily switched my main local account to that. I was afraid it was hosed, and no way to convert back to the local account. But, and don't ask me how, I got it back with no hiccups (yet). My main account on this machine is back to local status.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 14, 2026 02:11 AM (w6EFb)

314 I own my own small business and practice what I preach non-exploitive capitalism. Remember its not just communists who are your enemy many capitalism supporters are you enemy too and your socialist diatribes don't work on us.
Posted by: raimondo at July 14, 2026 02:08 AM (FeMn7)

Cleaning out porta-potties is a necessary task, and you should feel no shame in plying that trade. But what do you do when your cheek pouches get full?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:12 AM (1z8ji)

315 Correctly guessed it was 2am

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 02:12 AM (Ia/+0)

316 Pickup screen gasket. The pickup screen is attached to a crooked steel tube which is bolted to the bottom of the block just inside the pan rail, and right below the oil pump. There is a thick metal flange brazed to the tube, with a single 1/4-20 screw to retain the assembly to the block. About 1/4" of the tube goes into the large passage on the block that feeds the oil pump, and a thin paper gasket makes the seal. Used on the Champion series engines since 1939. Never been a problem area. Somebody used a round fiber washer, like an oil pan drain plug washer, instead of the paper gasket. Washer in excess of 1/16" thick. And really reefed down on that poor little 1/4-20 screw. Well, that had the effect of cocking the pickup tube in the bore, and putting fierce pressure on one side of the washer, and practically none on the other. So the oil pump began sucking air.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:05 AM (1z8ji)

yeah I know the setup you're talking about. I saw similar things in other engines. I'm surprised there's only one bolt holding it in. I guess the tube protruding into the passage keeps it from swinging around.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 02:14 AM (S41Gd)

317 Probaly selling pot.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2026 02:14 AM (ftycQ)

318
he turns flat on his back, with all fours up, and sleeps. Occasional leg twitches.
Posted by: JQ

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That's especially funny for your cat, innit? Critter that's standoffish if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 02:17 AM (mmrXZ)

319 I guess the tube protruding into the passage keeps it from swinging around.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 02:14 AM (S41Gd)

Exactly. If it were up to me , it would have a diamond-shaped flange, with two studs, and hex nuts to retain it, and the hole in the block would be counterbored to hold an O-ring. But I guess O-rings were not commonplace in 1939. And the paper gasket worked for 25 years, so why change it? One comes in every gasket set.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:18 AM (1z8ji)

320 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:05 AM (1z8ji)

yeah I know the setup you're talking about. I saw similar things in other engines. I'm surprised there's only one bolt holding it in. I guess the tube protruding into the passage keeps it from swinging around.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 02:14 AM (S41Gd)

I was shocked the first time I came across that too. I all WTF? One bolt? Where is the safety factor? What idiot came up with this? When you see them in new engines it's got 3 or 4 matchmarks on it. Couldn't just add another bolt!
You know it's an easy failure point.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2026 02:19 AM (ftycQ)

321 That's especially funny for your cat, innit? Critter that's standoffish if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone

He's not standoffish as much as he's simply an *outdoor-loving* cat. Dude loves the rubbys! Just doesn't like to stay indoors unless it's cold or stormy or... extremely hot.

Once it's above freezing, he rarely comes in except for treats.

It's so funny how he wiggles to get *just right* while flat on his back, and then conks out. And then those little twitches, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:24 AM (rdVOm)

322 294 Small miracle here in podunk, too-- hubby is back to calling me by his XW's name-- which is better than *not being recognized at all*!

Posted by: JQ
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It was those stickers that did it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 02:25 AM (VPNgR)

323 I was shocked the first time I came across that too. I all WTF? One bolt? Where is the safety factor? What idiot came up with this? When you see them in new engines it's got 3 or 4 matchmarks on it. Couldn't just add another bolt!
You know it's an easy failure point.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2026 02:19 AM (ftycQ)

Well, it looks weak, but it has not been historically a failure-prone part. The pickup assembly weighs maybe 4 ounces, and being immersed in oil at the bottom probably damps out any vibrations. And if the screw did break, you would get instant zero oil pressure, and a smart operator, or an ECM would shut down the engine right away, before any damage could result.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:26 AM (1z8ji)

324 Coming back from Calgary, I got waylaid at a fish fry, so home late. But the fish was yummy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:28 AM (1z8ji)

325 It was those stickers that did it.
Posted by: Braenyard

Could be... he loves my pork potstickers!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:28 AM (rdVOm)

326
Oh , that was it , he prefers the outdoors.

Funny thing i've been listening to some youtube videos about cats. It turns out that they are not domesticated animals. They're wild animals that live with us. During the ten thousand years that wolves evolved from the dogs we know today , cats barely changed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 14, 2026 02:35 AM (mmrXZ)

327 Well, getting sleepy here. Time for bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:37 AM (1z8ji)

328 AOP, I so hope that he chokes on that for a while, well done, he is probably the official spokesman of the extra small business association.

The biggest health scare of the summer here is explosive diarrhea, I have second hand knowledge of this and I will spare you the details. The next big thing will be West Nile Virus and Eastern Equine Encephalitis.

I know nothing mechanical at all, but when AOP and Bers get to talking here I can almost see it in my mind JQ, you too speak this language. I just sit back and enjoy it and hope that I retain just a bit of it for storage in my tiny brain.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 02:38 AM (ibDUx)

329 I should make up a batch of egg rolls..

When hubby was very ill a few years ago (and expected to pass "soon") his son and XW came to visit and she brought all the stuff to make her *secret recipe eggrolls* for him!

I'm tellin' ya, she's a wonderful person!

She showed me how to do it, start to finish. Naturally, I wrote down plenty of notes, in hopes of making them again.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:38 AM (rdVOm)

330 Well, it looks weak, but it has not been historically a failure-prone part. The pickup assembly weighs maybe 4 ounces, and being immersed in oil at the bottom probably damps out any vibrations. And if the screw did break, you would get instant zero oil pressure, and a smart operator, or an ECM would shut down the engine right away, before any damage could result.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2026 02:26 AM (1z8ji)

As long as it isn't my customers. I worked on a bike last week. I start it, the oil light is staying on. I call the dude. I asked if the light has been on since he put the bike together. He says yeah. I said and you didn't think this was an issue? Did you check to see if it actually has oil pressure? He says well the oil tank felt warm. Uh, its behind the rear cylinder it might eventually get warm. I pulled the oil pressure sending unit and started it. It had pressure, so I changed the switch and the light went out. Frigging dude is driving the bike around not actually knowing if it actually had oil pressure. I had another dude who had his light come on, he hears a noise, noise goes away, but the light stayed on. He drives it 80 miles. Motor was toast.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 02:40 AM (S41Gd)

331 During the ten thousand years that wolves evolved from the dogs we know today , cats barely changed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's

Because they started out awesome.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 14, 2026 02:40 AM (DZ9Lv)

332 294 Small miracle here in podunk, too-- hubby is back to calling me by his XW's name-- which is better than *not being recognized at all*!
Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 01:47 AM (rdVOm)

Awww.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 02:41 AM (6wpGE)

333 I know nothing mechanical at all, but when AOP and Bers get to talking here I can almost see it in my mind JQ, you too speak this language. I just sit back and enjoy it and hope that I retain just a bit of it for storage in my tiny brain.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 02:38 AM (ibDUx)

I would love to get JQ in the harley shop just to see how fast she picks it up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 02:43 AM (S41Gd)

334 Debby, I couldn't hold a flashlight for AOP & Bers... their experience is WAY beyond mine! But I kind-of follow along. I know what they're discussing tonight, and can visualize the parts. (Been "there" only a handful of times in my life.)

As far as the latest media-freakout..."explosive diarrhea"? Meh. Wash your produce well, under running water. Lettuce? Remove a couple of layers of outer leaves too.

Stay away from bagged salad and greens!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:44 AM (rdVOm)

335 Its Bastille Day
Should get up and make French toast

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 02:52 AM (Ia/+0)

336 I would love to get JQ in the harley shop just to see how fast she picks it up.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Wish I lived closer. It would be nice to work with a pro! So much to learn...

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:52 AM (rdVOm)

337 273 Yahoo article: Catherine Bouris, Mon, July 13, 2026 at 3:37 AM CDT, says he is 80.

This presentation is good if you're not familiar with him. He's bombastic but scores points. And it's a good one for those uninitiated on communism.
Thing on this one is that Trump brought it forward and linked to it, therefore Trump doesn't disagree. He's chumming the water.
On the 8th Trump suggested that all illegals should be deported. This is an escalation.

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MUST BE CRIMINALIZED; LEADERS DEPORTED

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MUST BE CRIMINALIZED; LEADERS DEPORTED

Jul 12, 2026, 5:12 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mGpfhO-lg

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 01:07 AM (VPNgR)

I got about two and a half minutes in, and it's too bombastic for me.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 02:52 AM (6wpGE)

338 >>> I just sit back and enjoy it and hope that I retain just a bit of it for storage in my tiny brain.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
--

It really works doesn't it. They think we're joking about them doing a Ewetoob.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 02:53 AM (VPNgR)

339 JQ, I went to a local pub last week, ordered the chicken supreme and mashed potatoes, it also came with a side salad which I declined. I told the bartender that nobody was getting explosive diarrhea from meat and potatoes. I'm on the small side, but I can eat a ton of meat and potatoes, makes me happy.

I think that JQ would be a blast to hang out with in a Harley shop, and JQ, you gotta meet Bers.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 02:54 AM (ibDUx)

340 The bison is far more in tune with the American spirit than the eagle or the turkey (Benjamin Franklin's laughable choice for a symbol). It's the size and weight of a compact sedan, and can run 35 miles/hour.
-

COMMUNITY NOTE:

Cars were not yet invented in Benjamin Franklin's lifetime. Also, the American Bald Eagle can cruise up to 40MPH without even touching the ground. It can also reach diving speeds of 100MPH.

In comparison with the bald eagle, the American buffalo is a Lada.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2026 02:56 AM (RkR9o)

341 I helped pioneer the bagged salad. Three layer plastic used in the 90's mostly made in Reno and we built the 5 layer tower while running off millions of miles of the 3 layer. 3 layer got like 3 weeks but 5 layer got you months. Then the factory was pulled up and sent to china during Clintons send everything to china bullshit.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2026 02:56 AM (ftycQ)

342 Debby, I couldn't hold a flashlight for AOP & Bers... their experience is WAY beyond mine! But I kind-of follow along. I know what they're discussing tonight, and can visualize the parts. (Been "there" only a handful of times in my life.)



Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 02:44 AM (rdVOm)

I don't know. I heard some of the shit you worked on. I don't think anything inside a harley engine would be unfamiliar. Its like 2 cylinders of a radial airplane engine, but its also like the front 2 cylinders of a v8 car engine. It has pushrods, a cam, lifters, rocker arms, oil pump, etc.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:01 AM (S41Gd)

343 Hi, Reforger!

*slides ice-cold Fosters down the bar*

It's not the bagged salads' packaging at fault.

I can imagine the "field workers" needing to use restroom-- but there's no porta-potty in the field, so... ICK!

Just one more reason to have one's own garden, if possible!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:02 AM (rdVOm)

344 Yang Poon salads are the worst!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 03:02 AM (ibDUx)

345 My wife is pretty good at mechanical issues

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 03:03 AM (Ia/+0)

346 Washing lettuce leaves in a bowl of salted water is what I learned, growing up.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 03:07 AM (6wpGE)

347 Yang Poon salads are the worst!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 03:02 AM (ibDUx)

You can tell if it's yang poon. It won't fit in the bowl right. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:07 AM (S41Gd)

348 LMAO-- Yang poon salads, heh.

Yeah, they cheap out on the wash-cycle, evidently...

Or hire turd-world workers what don't wash they hands after taking a dump. Eww.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:08 AM (rdVOm)

349 My wife is pretty good at mechanical issues

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 03:03 AM (Ia/+0)

Mrs B is good at many things. Mechanical shit isn't one of them. I try to explain things and I get lifeless stare. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:08 AM (S41Gd)

350 Washing lettuce leaves in a bowl of salted water is what I learned, growing up.
Posted by: m

Salt help, for sure. But *running water* to remove the ick, is necessary IMO.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:10 AM (rdVOm)

351 I can imagine the "field workers" needing to use restroom-- but there's no porta-potty in the field, so... ICK!

Just one more reason to have one's own garden, if possible!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:02 AM (rdVOm)

I can see the frigging primitives wiping their ass with a head of lettuce.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:11 AM (S41Gd)

352 >>>Clintons send everything to china bullshit.
---
Smooth talking charismatic, folks don't realize how destructive he was. Only reason he didn't tear it up; there were too many people who had not forgotten what being American was. But he laid the groundwork for the Lightbringer. And Bush terms did nothing...nothing to nullify it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 03:12 AM (VPNgR)

353 I don't think anything inside a harley engine would be unfamiliar. Its like 2 cylinders of a radial airplane engine, but its also like the front 2 cylinders of a v8 car engine. It has pushrods, a cam, lifters, rocker arms, oil pump, etc.
Posted by: Berserker

Hmm. Well, I'd give it a try if I could. Maybe I'll put hubby's bike back together someday? Too bad he can't remember why he took it apart. I just don't believe I know enough to deal with a problem like that.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:14 AM (rdVOm)

354 USAID finally does something good:

https://tinyurl.com/2bap76yp

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2026 03:14 AM (RkR9o)

355 350 Washing lettuce leaves in a bowl of salted water is what I learned, growing up.
Posted by: m

Salt help, for sure. But *running water* to remove the ick, is necessary IMO.
Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:10 AM (rdVOm)

I do the running water thing first, when I'm trimming off the bad parts. Amazing what comes out sometimes!

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 03:15 AM (6wpGE)

356 Skip, you are going to be soooo tired tomorrow. I miss Auntie Miklos telling you to go to sleep. Did you get a new vehicle?

Mrs. B is such a very good person, please tell her that I said hello.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 03:17 AM (ibDUx)

357 354 USAID finally does something good:

https://tinyurl.com/2bap76yp
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2026 03:14 AM (RkR9o)

It's a start!

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 03:18 AM (6wpGE)

358 354 USAID finally does something good:

https://tinyurl.com/2bap76yp
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 14, 2026 03:14 AM (RkR9o)

MASSIVE PROBE:

The USAID Office of the Inspector General has referred over 100 current and former UNRWA staff members to the State Department for suspension over their alleged involvement in the Oct. 7 terrorist attacks against Israel, as a massive investigation continues.

Additionally, a U.S. diplomatic official briefed by USAID OIG investigators confirmed to Fox News Digital that at least 1,500 current or former UNRWA employees are under investigation for ties to foreign terrorist organizations in Gaza.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 03:19 AM (6wpGE)

359 Would be up in 20 minutes anyway.
Excited getting my next vehicle after work

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 03:22 AM (Ia/+0)

360 Well sweet dreams Horde, I shall strive for sleep.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2026 03:23 AM (ibDUx)

361 Yesterday work went to Hell so left early, had time to come home and change before doctor's appointment, actually took a 15 minute nap.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 03:23 AM (Ia/+0)

362 Line them up against the wall, there will be an abundance of volunteers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 03:25 AM (VPNgR)

363 'Night, Debby

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:27 AM (rdVOm)

364 Hmm. Well, I'd give it a try if I could. Maybe I'll put hubby's bike back together someday? Too bad he can't remember why he took it apart. I just don't believe I know enough to deal with a problem like that.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:14 AM (rdVOm)

What did he take apart?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:27 AM (S41Gd)

365 For those who have been following my soap opera, it appears that son's baby mama is trying to coerce son into giving up his parental rights, but still wants child support. So, I hired a shark. We are now filing for full custody, based on the fact that grandboy never spends the night with baby mama, so she isn't actually, legally, raising him. Turns out having her step mom raise him is not, entirely, legal. That outta smack her upside the head.

Would have been happy if son had never stuck his dick in trailer trash, but here we are.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2026 03:30 AM (bl07w)

366 What did he take apart?
Posted by: Berserker

It's been a while since I've been in that outbuilding, and only then to stuff more junk into it... it's hard to get to that area anyway... and I was in a hurry to move stuff before deadline.

He had the tops off the rocker boxes at least. Not sure how deep he went into them. I was so upset, didn't stay to figure it out.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:31 AM (rdVOm)

367 ...upset because he hadn't mentioned tearing into the bike at all!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:32 AM (rdVOm)

368 Posted by: tcn in AK at July 14, 2026 03:30 AM

Wow. Baby momma thinks she's special. No parental rights? No parental $$$ responsibility. (I believe that's how it goes)

Good luck, tcn. What a hard road to travel!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:36 AM (rdVOm)

369 He had the tops off the rocker boxes at least. Not sure how deep he went into them. I was so upset, didn't stay to figure it out.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:31 AM (rdVOm)

Thats easy. There was probably a leak in the lower gasket. Its a 3 piece rocker box. the lower section holds the rockers, then there is a middle ring, then the top cover. The top cover holds the middle ring in place. There was probably a leak in the lower section where it bolts to the head. Thats where they always leak. The gasket gets brittle and poof, you got a leak. The newer gaskets are much better. I just had to do one of mine on the bike I got last month. Whoever did the upgrades did an excellent job, but used a shitty brand gasket and it crumbled like a potato chip and started leaking. Same deal with the tour bike I got 2 years ago. An even shittier gasket on that bike. When you're ready I can walk you through it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 03:38 AM (S41Gd)

370 Thats easy. There was probably a leak in the lower gasket. Its a 3 piece rocker box. the lower section holds the rockers, then there is a middle ring, then the top cover. The top cover holds the middle ring in place. There was probably a leak in the lower section where it bolts to the head. Thats where they always leak. The gasket gets brittle and poof, you got a leak. The newer gaskets are much better. I just had to do one of mine on the bike I got last month. Whoever did the upgrades did an excellent job, but used a shitty brand gasket and it crumbled like a potato chip and started leaking. Same deal with the tour bike I got 2 years ago. An even shittier gasket on that bike. When you're ready I can walk you through it.
Posted by: Berserker

Thinking back. Thinking... Seems hubby & I did change r/b gaskets right after he got the bike. (2003? A lifetime ago!) Like you said-- leak at the head. He rode it daily for several years, and then... I don't know why he stopped. Winter, probably LOL.

But he never mentioned recurrence of the leak. Maybe he got yang poon gasket set, way back when?

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:44 AM (rdVOm)

371 Time to get up
(Sips coffee)

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2026 03:45 AM (Ia/+0)

372 Hope you get that baby in your arms permanent.

And JQ gets that bike back together.

Good night all.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 14, 2026 03:46 AM (VPNgR)

373 'Night, Braenyard

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:50 AM (rdVOm)

374 Well, when I get the time (maybe next year?) to look at the bike again, will pay more attention.

It's way too much of a machine for me, so probably will end up selling it. Would get a better price if it runs! Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:52 AM (rdVOm)

375 Would have been happy if son had never stuck his dick in trailer trash, but here we are.
Posted by: tcn in AK

My lil bro has similar problem, except he's stayed with the babymomma & married her. It's ugly.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:04 AM (rdVOm)

376 But he never mentioned recurrence of the leak. Maybe he got yang poon gasket set, way back when?

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:44 AM (rdVOm)

Oh yeah, there were a lot of shit gaskets back then. there were a few companies making them and they were shit. James were good, harley were good, well as good as it was for the time. Then they started making the beaded gaskets, they were very good, but still over a long period of time they could get brittle. Finally they started making a thin rubber coated metal with the bead. Those are great, they don't get brittle. If he got yang poon gaskets they would last a couple years. Some american gaskets were yang poon. The white one and the greyish ones were crap. Even the beaded ones they made were shit. Harley and james were always better than anything else that was out there.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:11 AM (S41Gd)

377 Well, when I get the time (maybe next year?) to look at the bike again, will pay more attention.

It's way too much of a machine for me, so probably will end up selling it. Would get a better price if it runs! Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 03:52 AM (rdVOm)

Too much machine? No way. Its a sportster. Perfect for women. Mrs B rides a softail, and she's only 5'-3".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:15 AM (S41Gd)

378 Greyish, iirc. No idea what brand.

Don't recall where he purchased, but likely from a harley shop.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:15 AM (rdVOm)

379 Bers, I'm not the woman I used to be... and I couldn't even lift that machine off its kickstand *back then*

Doubt I could handle it *now*

Sad.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:17 AM (rdVOm)

380 yang poon

This is an expression that is unknown to me, and I keep thinking, "Everybody Wang Chung tonight."

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:20 AM (6wpGE)

381 yang poon = chy-nah / crap product

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:21 AM (rdVOm)

382 381 yang poon = chy-nah / crap product
Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:21 AM (rdVOm)

Thanks, JQ! I was skeered to google it.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:23 AM (6wpGE)

383 Bers, I'm not the woman I used to be... and I couldn't even lift that machine off its kickstand *back then*

Doubt I could handle it *now*

Sad.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:17 AM (rdVOm)

Yeah that would be rough. There may have been a greyish greenish beaded gasket that might have been harley's first attempt at the beaded gasket, but I'm not sure. it could have been aftermarket. Thats what was in the bike I got a couple months ago. They blow ass. They lasted 3000 miles on that bike. It was done around 8000 miles on the bike, I got it with 11,000 and they were toast.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:24 AM (S41Gd)

384 Scroooogle don't know sh!t anyway, m.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:25 AM (rdVOm)

385 It was done around 8000 miles on the bike, I got it with 11,000 and they were toast.
Posted by: Berserker

Hubs probly rode a couple k miles before parking it. Sounds about right.

Will need to sell *all but one* vehicle anyway, if he outlives our retirement funds and needs to go on medicaid.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:27 AM (rdVOm)

386 Horde knowledge is the best.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:27 AM (6wpGE)

387 This is up at Pixy's Other Site:

You know when grown-ups tell you everything's going to be fine, and you think they're probably lying to make you feel better?
Yes.
Everything's going to be fine.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:29 AM (6wpGE)

388 yang poon

This is an expression that is unknown to me, and I keep thinking, "Everybody Wang Chung tonight."

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:20 AM (6wpGE)

It started in one of the harley shops I work out of. One of the dudes there was working on an engine and a shit part in the engine that obviously wasn't working. He was yelling "fucking yang poon". I looked over and said whats up, he holds the part out and says yang poon. I knew immediately, some taiwan piece of crap. There is a distributor called V-twin that sells a lot of that crap. We started calling it V-Chin. Now its yang poon. All chinese parts are Yang Poon.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:30 AM (S41Gd)

389 The kitten is galloping in and out of the room like a tiny racehorse and then he's chasing his tail like it's alive . He is very amusing .Rather exhausting, but amusing . It's good to have a pet to make one laugh. I am grateful to God we saw the sign outside the house a few miles away, "Free kittens" and were able to get one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2026 04:31 AM (D+BhG)

390 You know when grown-ups tell you everything's going to be fine, and you think they're probably lying to make you feel better?
Yes.
Everything's going to be fine.
Posted by: m

No fkin doubt!

"This is fine" LOL fml

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:31 AM (rdVOm)

391 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

392 388 yang poon

This is an expression that is unknown to me, and I keep thinking, "Everybody Wang Chung tonight."

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:20 AM (6wpGE)

It started in one of the harley shops I work out of. One of the dudes there was working on an engine and a shit part in the engine that obviously wasn't working. He was yelling "fucking yang poon". I looked over and said whats up, he holds the part out and says yang poon. I knew immediately, some taiwan piece of crap. There is a distributor called V-twin that sells a lot of that crap. We started calling it V-Chin. Now its yang poon. All chinese parts are Yang Poon.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:30 AM (S41Gd)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:33 AM (6wpGE)

393 Will need to sell *all but one* vehicle anyway, if he outlives our retirement funds and needs to go on medicaid.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:27 AM (rdVOm)


1200 sportsters from that era in nice shape are 3-4K average. Apart you would be lucky to see 2K, because there are clean 883 sportsters out there for 2K. There are 2 on market place right now. For less than $100 in gaskets it would be worth putting it together. Like I said, I can walk you through it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:34 AM (S41Gd)

394 1200 sportsters from that era in nice shape are 3-4K average. Apart you would be lucky to see 2K, because there are clean 883 sportsters out there for 2K. There are 2 on market place right now. For less than $100 in gaskets it would be worth putting it together. Like I said, I can walk you through it.
Posted by: Berserker

Thank you, Bers! If we're both still here next year, I will take you up on that offer!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:37 AM (rdVOm)

395 needless to say, you never, ever use yang poon in a harley engine. You need to buy the good American stuff, it's pricey, but your motor won't grenade. Use yang poon and you built a time bomb.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:37 AM (S41Gd)

396 You need to buy the good American stuff, it's pricey, but your motor won't grenade. Use yang poon and you built a time bomb.
Posted by: Berserker

I will trust you to point me toward *reliable brand(s)* when the time comes!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:39 AM (rdVOm)

397 Thank you, Bers! If we're both still here next year, I will take you up on that offer!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:37 AM (rdVOm)

I think we'll both be here next year. I already cheated death. I won. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:40 AM (S41Gd)

398 {{{Bers}}}

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:41 AM (rdVOm)

399 I will trust you to point me toward *reliable brand(s)* when the time comes!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:39 AM (rdVOm)

Absolutely. It probably don't need shit other than gaskets anyway. I hope it don't have gas in it, that would be bad. How many miles on it?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:41 AM (S41Gd)

400 400

Posted by: m at July 14, 2026 04:43 AM (6wpGE)

401 How many miles on it?
Posted by: Berserker

Don't know.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:43 AM (rdVOm)

402 Gas tank is off. Seat is off. It's a mess.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:44 AM (rdVOm)

403 Gas tank is off. Seat is off. It's a mess.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:44 AM (rdVOm)

thats nothing. Tank is 2 bolts, seat pops right on and has one screw holding it to the fender.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:45 AM (S41Gd)

404 I'll have another look out there some day when it's not so damned hot.

Got some clean up to do there anyway & maybe clear a path to the poor neglected bike...

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:46 AM (rdVOm)

405 All I can do now, is hope that none of the 'little parts' have gone missing. LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:48 AM (rdVOm)

406 All I can do now, is hope that none of the 'little parts' have gone missing. LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:48 AM (rdVOm)

Not a problem. When the time comes you're going to text me pictures and I can tell exactly what it needs. I can list the small parts off the top of my head anyway. Sounds like he didn't go too far into anyway. You have four 1/4-20 allen head screws holding the top cover of the rocker boxes on, and if the lowers are still on nothing else should be missing from the rocker boxes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:51 AM (S41Gd)

407 It's kinda funny-- I've always thought of men (in general) as being more mechanically inclined. Hubs... not so much... he was more 'woodworker'.

Rarely did those two combine, IMO.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:53 AM (rdVOm)

408 It's kinda funny-- I've always thought of men (in general) as being more mechanically inclined. Hubs... not so much... he was more 'woodworker'.

Rarely did those two combine, IMO.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:53 AM (rdVOm)

I have friends who could close an umbrella. I have one who can't even change his frigging headlight bulb. If I gave him a screwdriver the dumb bastard would probably poke his eye out with it, or stab himself.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:55 AM (S41Gd)

409 Ooooooooooops! Just remembered: Bers, you're one of those RARE ones!!!!!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:55 AM (rdVOm)

410 Oh, you'd be proud of me-- I changed my own Rav4 headlight bulbs just last month! One burned out, so I knew the other might also go *any time* and changed both. The other is kept in vehicle as a spare.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:57 AM (rdVOm)

411 Ooooooooooops! Just remembered: Bers, you're one of those RARE ones!!!!!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:55 AM (rdVOm)

yeah I exist in the multiverse. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:57 AM (S41Gd)

412 Oh, you'd be proud of me-- I changed my own Rav4 headlight bulbs just last month! One burned out, so I knew the other might also go *any time* and changed both. The other is kept in vehicle as a spare.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 04:57 AM (rdVOm)

yeah, the smart way to go.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2026 04:58 AM (S41Gd)

413 I'm not a woodworker, but can do basic cuts and rough carpentry. Not building furniture, LOL.

Jane of all trades, master of none.

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 05:01 AM (rdVOm)

414 Alrighty... will look at tech thread before hitting the sack...

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 05:04 AM (rdVOm)

415 'Night, Bers. Thank you so very much for your input!

Posted by: JQ at July 14, 2026 05:05 AM (rdVOm)

416 That isn't American cheese, it's silicone (or similar substance) being color-mixed.

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