Thune: Some "Republican" Senators Hate Trump Too Much to Protect the Integrity of Federal Elections and Do What Their Constituents Elected Them to Do

Conservatives and normies have two main complaints about RINOs. They are highly-interrelated and mutually reinforcing.

1, Although almost all senators are absurd puffed-up egotists, RINOs in particular believe they exist to instruct, scold, discipline, and guide their voters, who they consider their inferiors. We elect them to be our Servants, but they conceive themselves as our Masters.

2, Conservatives and true patriots understand that they are fighting a political war on two fronts: the external one, against the nominal Democrat Party and all of its satellites and proxies, including the media, the universities, and NGOs, and the must more insidious internal opposition -- liberal "Republicans" who see their role as a necessary check on the wild demands of crazy and racist Republicans. In every single battle, we know we march with half of "our party" siding with the enemy, passing them information secretly, and ready to defect to them at a moment's notice.

RINOs hate us for calling them RINOs. They claim it's a lie and a slur.

But at every turn, they prove us to be 100% correct about them. They are liars and, worse yet, traitors. Traitors who think they're patriots for selling out the "wrong side" to help "the right side of history."

When a leftist tells you you're lying about DEI discriminating against white males, they of course don't really mean you're lying about the facts. They mean you're "lying" about the valence of the facts, the perception of the facts -- they think you should agree that discriminating against white males is a good thing, but because you don't agree and because admitting that would be politically disadvantageous, they claim you're lying about the simple fact of it.

Similarly, RINOs know that what we say about them is actually true. But they're liberals -- when they say something is "false," what they really mean is Yes it's true you Racists, but it's a good thing. You need us to restrain your unsophisticated, hick Racist urges. We're providing you with a valuable service (against your wishes) and you should be thankful for it."

But they're unfathomably arrogant and twisted liars and so will never concede that what we have here is a dispute. They will never admit there is a dispute. They will claim they're on our side for years and years.

And then, when it's time to vote -- Fooled you, Racist Chumps! We were against you the whole time!

Yes we know. We've said that all along.

EXCLUSIVE: Thune Admits Some Senate Republicans Hate Trump Too Much To Support SAVE America Act

Senate Majority Leader John Thune admitted some Senate Republicans hate President Donald Trump too much to support the SAVE America Act, multiple sources familiar with the comments told the Daily Caller.
Thune admitted during a closed-door GOP lunch on Wednesday that some Republican senators oppose President Donald Trump so strongly that they will never vote for the SAVE America Act, regardless of the legislation's merits, according to several sources familiar with the matter.
The discussion quickly escalated into a heated exchange between Republican Utah Sen. Mike Lee, the bill's chief Senate sponsor, and several of his GOP colleagues. Republican Texas Sen. John Cornyn and Thune both challenged Lee's push for the legislation, according to a source familiar with the meeting.
"Yeah, that totally happened," a source familiar with the matter told the Daily Caller.
Still, the Majority Leader's office denies the admission. "This is a baseless claim, and it is unequivocally untrue," a spokesperson for Thune told the Daily Caller.

Fuck you, liar.

This is another criticism that is obviously true: They are egotistical and petty. They claim to be "statesmen" who are horrified by Trump's "incivility," but Trump actually states what his positions really are. And when he opposes you, he opposes you publicly.

These cowardly faggots scheme in the dark and call themselves "civil" for their sabotage and backstabbing. Everybody hates a coward, and everybody hates a traitor even more.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:00 PM

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Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 18, 2026 02:59 PM (A0HNO)

2 The Blade does manage to snag a FIRST today!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:00 PM (iFTx/)

3 Or not ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:00 PM (iFTx/)

4 Well they'll show us!!

Bastids.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 18, 2026 03:00 PM (ItpVy)

5 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 18, 2026 03:01 PM (fV+di)

6 Perfect segue to this !

(Need a caption for this photo)

https://tinyurl.com/289xv89h

Posted by: runner at June 18, 2026 03:01 PM (GD0B3)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:01 PM (2YhKe)

8 >>>But at every turn, they prove us to be 100% correct about them. They are liars and, worse yet, traitors. Traitors who think they're patriots for selling out the "wrong side" to help "the right side of history."

Go long on tar and feathers.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:02 PM (dK+Kv)

9 It'll be interesting to see if the hidden antagonists come out of the woodwork after their scapegoats of Mitch, Tillis, Cassidy, and Cornyn (and Ernst, to be honest) are out of the Senate next year.

They probably hope desperately for a 51 seat majority so they can offer up Murkowski and one other (UT senator not Lee, perhaps) as the reason they can't do anything.

I'm holding out some mild hope for a surprise 55 seat majority, without the aforementioned five.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:02 PM (Zn6QU)

10 I said it earlier. These GOPe types think that everything will go back to uniparty status when Trump is done. They refuse to see that their "good friends across the aisle " are dying and/or being replaced by Marxist lunatics who was not give the GOPe their kibble. They ain't wartime consiglieries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 18, 2026 03:02 PM (A0HNO)

11 Fuck them, WAR!!!

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (Q/FnY)

12 These fucking RINO SOBs piss me off.

Tar and feathers, indeed, Comrade Flounder.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (wtvvX)

13 It's all a game - each one of those senators has been given permission (along with a wink and a nod) to vote against this legislation.

Thus it always was, thus it always shall be.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (fV+di)

14 A leader would strip the committee positions from all these bitchy little girls but there is no leader in the GOPe senate, just more bitchy little girls.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (3uBP9)

15 5 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 18, 2026 03:01 PM (fV+di)

Hiya, TiFW!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (wtvvX)

16 "some"

Murkworzhskowski, the dude in the hospital, Tillis.

Posted by: runner at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (GD0B3)

17 Go long on tar and feathers.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

You spelled 'Gibbeting' wrong.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (ItpVy)

18 I think Thune is honestly a Dem. His wife is a liberal nut, his daughter is a liberal nut ... he is a liberal.

He used the R as a lil mask to get in office.

Sickening piece of garbage that he is.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (j+aD2)

19 The reason some RINOs don't want it is because it will elect more of those icky conservatives to congress. They don't care about a majority or doing anything productive, just their own placement.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (n5tGW)

20 Love this Dennis Green video… exquisitely appropriate in this case. A close second in the coaching rants category would be Jim Mora’s incredulous “Playoffs??!! You talking playoffs??!! I just hope we win another game.”

Applied to RINOs it might go: “Win elections??!! You talking winning??!! I just hope to collect another campaign check.”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (+gA9j)

21 Passive aggressive little bitch boy cock sucking pussies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (zZu0s)

22 Heh. The video.

I still love Jim Mora.

"Playoffs? You talk playoffs? Playoffs?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (2YhKe)

23 "Although almost all senators are absurd puffed-up egotists, RINOs in particular believe they exist to instruct, scold, discipline, and guide their voters, who they consider their inferiors. We elect them to be our Servants, but they conceive themselves as our Masters."

That's exactly how leftwing Democraps think. It's not a coincidence. RINOs are leftwing Democraps. They just hide their political perversion to con the rubes. And sadly, the RINO rope-a-dope has worked all too well for a very long time. I think that's changing or at least starting to change. But time will tell.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (iFTx/)

24 "Were supper conservative yo, it's just that Trump is so uncoutheeeeed and violates our precious normzzz" died as a bs excuse in like March 2017.

But they still use it because they hate your guts and believe you are stoooopid.

Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (ixZ1o)

25 17 Go long on tar and feathers.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

You spelled 'Gibbeting' wrong.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (ItpVy)

We will also accept "garrotting"...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (wtvvX)

26 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 18, 2026 03:01 PM (fV+di)/i]

*hugs*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (2YhKe)

27 Well, Mr Thune, the way to deal with that is to tell all of these people who hate the head of the party that you will bring it to a vote and when they vote no, you will strip them of their privileges and work to defeat them in their next election.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (uhVAy)

28 Hi Teresa love

Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (ixZ1o)

29 As for me, I'm voting for James Talarico, a man of principle!

Posted by: John Cornyn (Rino-TX) at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (0sNs1)

30 I knew a long day, still at work and hour from home

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (sgkY8)

31 Sponge… you and I thinking along the same football lines….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (+gA9j)

32 The voters here in Texas have gotten rid of one of those senators that hates Trump. It's up to the other states to do their jobs.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (0N4FZ)

33 27 Well, Mr Thune, the way to deal with that is to tell all of these people who hate the head of the party that you will bring it to a vote and when they vote no, you will strip them of their privileges and work to defeat them in their next election.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (uhVAy)

=====

At least five of them are retiring from Congress at the end of this term (Mitch, Tillis, Cassidy, Cornyn, and Ernst).

What can he do to them?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

34 Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (ixZ1o)

Only two dots? Different commenter? A countdown? Symbolic about the fall of the republic? What happens when it gets to one?

What does it all mean?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

35 Sponge… you and I thinking along the same football lines….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (+gA9j)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (2YhKe)

36 I think it's time to repatriate the RINOs to the home of the rhinoceros - Africa.

I can't see enough interest if they were put into zoos.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (qx7Zg)

37 is three dots on Ozempic?!?!?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (j+aD2)

38 Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (uhVAy)

Thune does that, he admits he was wrong about Cassidy and Cornyn (and Tillis, and Myrzcxsky).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (3d9VR)

39
What can he do to them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

Keelhaul comes to mind.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (2YhKe)

40 As for me, I'm voting for James Talarico, a man of principle!
Posted by: John Cornyn (Rino-TX)

I wish that were a joke but you know it's not.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (vTZFs)

41 McConnell looks like he’s one nap away from the big sleep.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (i6xMV)

42 The GOPe has used election fraud to engineer as close to a 50% majority for either party for decades.

For them, that is the best possible outcome:
Never enough to do anything, never too much to be forced to do anything, always just enough to be just close enough--next election.

Both parties have agreed to this.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (73/SM)

43 Keelhaul comes to mind.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (2YhKe)

Oubliette.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (zZu0s)

44 Jerking committee spots is fascist or something. Party discipline is also cultish. Or something.

Posted by: connected and litigious at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (cS1cw)

45 indeed, Comrade Flounder.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (wtvvX)

And another is claimed...

Tex for the love of God, reconsider. Once you agree with him once, it's impossible to get out of it. Take it from me.

Go. I beg you. Go while you still can!

Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (ixZ1o)

46 20 Love this Dennis Green video… exquisitely appropriate in this case. A close second in the coaching rants category would be Jim Mora’s incredulous “Playoffs??!! You talking playoffs??!! I just hope we win another game.”

I would nominate Herm Edwards' rant: "You play to win the game!"

Posted by: the dandy at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (8l8nW)

47 At least five of them are retiring from Congress at the end of this term (Mitch, Tillis, Cassidy, Cornyn, and Ernst).

What can he do to them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

Put it up again after they are gone. Lincoln had to do a lot of log rolling to get the 13th Amendment pushed through *before* a lot of new Republicans came in but he got it done

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (uhVAy)

48 McConnell looks like he’s one nap away from the big sleep.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (i6xMV)

I wonder if he'll come out of the hospital alive.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)

49 What’s up wit da Bears? I don’t NFL so not a thing far’s I care.

Posted by: Eromero at June 18, 2026 03:10 PM (jcRwP)

50 For them, that is the best possible outcome:
Never enough to do anything, never too much to be forced to do anything, always just enough to be just close enough--next election.

this isn't how checks and balances were supposed to work

maybe we need to rethink Congress then.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 18, 2026 03:10 PM (j+aD2)

51 voting for James Talarico, a man of principle!
Posted by: John Cornyn (Rino-TX) at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (0sNs1)

A candidate so Christian he can quote from five gospels. Deploratards can only get to four on their best days amirite.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:10 PM (3d9VR)

52 What I wouldn't give to see these guys face a troika, reading pathetic confessions through broken teeth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (BI5O2)

53 is three dots on Ozempic?!?!?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (j+aD2)

Shit. I blame flounder. See???

Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

54 What’s up wit da Bears? I don’t NFL so not a thing far’s I care.
Posted by: Eromero at June 18, 2026 03:10 PM (jcRwP)

They're inches away from moving to Indiana.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (2YhKe)

55 What’s up wit da Bears? I don’t NFL so not a thing far’s I care.
Posted by: Eromero at June 18, 2026 03:10 PM (jcRwP)

They are moving to Indiana. The traffic will be EPIC.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (uhVAy)

56 It's okay ladies. I'm back.

Posted by: ....... at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

57 They claim to be "statesmen" who are horrified by Trump's "incivility," but Trump actually states what his positions really are.

And one of the really annoying things about that to them must be that many of his positions match their lies. It’s amazing to me how petty and small some of their lies are. Who would have voted differently because a politician doesn’t make moving the United States embassy to Jerusalem a campaign plank? How long did they plan to keep that in without being called on it?

It’s as if they lie not because it’s in the service of some greater good, but because it’s their nature.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (kYmoU)

58 47
Put it up again after they are gone. Lincoln had to do a lot of log rolling to get the 13th Amendment pushed through *before* a lot of new Republicans came in but he got it done

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (uhVAy)

======

I've asserted for a while that the SAVE Act has a better chance next year than this year for a while.

And it has everything to do with the fact that Thune, assuming he wants the Act passed which is mere assumption for the sake of argument, has nothing on a clear number of senators to influence them one way or the other.

Replacing those five (hopefully we get Whatley to replace Tillis instead of Cooper) will do more for the direction of the Senate than any strings Thune can pull.

The problem isn't leadership. It's the senators themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)

59 The voters here in Texas have gotten rid of one of those senators that hates Trump.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM

To borrow a phrase from that eminent sage and philosopher Winston Wolfe, WLNSSEODQY.

Posted by: James Talarico at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (0sNs1)

60 >> I wonder if he'll come out of the hospital alive.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)

I’ve been around enough very elderly people to realize that guy is one blink away from a blue screen.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2026 03:12 PM (i6xMV)

61 It's okay ladies. I'm back.
Posted by: ....... at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

From Ozempic to Extenze.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:12 PM (2YhKe)

62 Love this Dennis Green video… exquisitely appropriate in this case.

It's extra funny because Green was triggered by a reporter asking about losing to Rex Grossman. People who remember the non-HQ origin of the BEN ROETHLISBERGER meme understand why.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:12 PM (2ocoG)

63 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

LMAO

Posted by: ... at June 18, 2026 03:12 PM (ixZ1o)

64 Replacing those five (hopefully we get Whatley to replace Tillis instead of Cooper) will do more for the direction of the Senate than any strings Thune can pull.

The problem isn't leadership. It's the senators themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)

The art of leadership is making people like those 5 afraid.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (uhVAy)

65 We will also accept "garrotting"...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:05 PM (wtvvX)

Leave Garret out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (ufFY8)

66 Yes. They essentially operate within the feminine group/social dynamic. Passive-aggressiveness, in/out group framing, reputation destruction, gossip, etc.

That's why it okay to call them faggots.

Posted by: runninrebel at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (BrvNz)

67 As for me, I'm voting for James Talarico, a man of principle!
Posted by: John Cornyn (Rino-TX) at June 18, 2026 03:06 PM (0sNs1)

As in "principally a fag"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (1z8ji)

68 Only two dots? Different commenter? A countdown? Symbolic about the fall of the republic? What happens when it gets to one?

What does it all mean?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

You saw the end of Predator.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (2YhKe)

69 64 The art of leadership is making people like those 5 afraid.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:13 PM (uhVAy)

======

Afraid of what?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:14 PM (Zn6QU)

70 And note well:
Every one of these Republicans sought Trump's endorsement in their last election.
Every one promised their voters in their last election to support Trump and to work with Trump to pass his agenda.

Thune is helping them lie to their constituents by not revealing who they are.

Voters in LA waited 5 years to get rid of Cassidy--nothing he did in that five years was going to save him after he showed he hated Trump more than doing his job representing the voters of Louisiana.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:14 PM (73/SM)

71 To borrow a phrase from that eminent sage and philosopher Winston Wolfe, WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: James Talarico at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (0sNs1)

Talerico's gonna lose by at least 20 points. The Democrats and the media wind everybody up every few years that they've finally got the perfect candidate to win Texas. "Beto O'Rourke Fever: Catch It!" and all that.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:14 PM (2ocoG)

72 I SEE THREE DOTS

Posted by: Picard at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (3uBP9)

73 For them, that is the best possible outcome:
Never enough to do anything, never too much to be forced to do anything, always just enough to be just close enough--next election.

Both parties have agreed to this.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (73/SM)
---
It's not called the "Uniparty" for nothing.

Yeah, under this system the parties can take turns exercising a minimal amount of power while maximizing personal profits.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (gnNyN)

74 Only two dots? Different commenter? A countdown? Symbolic about the fall of the republic? What happens when it gets to one?

When it gets to one, Linkin Park fades up. Then the last dot goes away and you see "DIRECTED BY: MICHAEL BAY".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (2ocoG)

75 Remember the first so-called republican to come out against the SAVE Act was Murkowski.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (i6xMV)

76 It's okay ladies. I'm back.
Posted by: ....... at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

Now he's competing with the Paolo.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (77rzZ)

77 "...and I am one of them!"
--Senator Thune

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:16 PM (UZCuZ)

78 Still, the Majority Leader's office denies the admission. "This is a baseless claim, and it is unequivocally untrue," a spokesperson for Thune told the Daily Caller.
____________________________

IOW, it's not only true, but those individuals have anxiety over being publicly outed and made primary targets in their next election efforts.

So, guess what we should do.

Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:17 PM (dIske)

79 Thune admitted during a closed-door GOP lunch on Wednesday that some Republican senators oppose President Donald Trump so strongly that they will never vote for the SAVE America Act, regardless of the legislation's merits

They are against SAVE because they are being paid to stop any reforms like this from going through

But you know what? If I was Lee I'd rewrite the legislation with some minor changes and call it, "The Donald Trump is a big meanie but I want ballot integrity Act"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:17 PM (sKqQm)

80 These cowardly faggots scheme in the dark and call themselves "civil" for their sabotage and backstabbing. Everybody hates a coward, and everybody hates a traitor even more.

-------

It's catty bitch feminine behavior.

They think that by fucking everyone else over that they'll keep getting invited to the parties at the Embassies where they can rub elbows and stroke themselves off about how god damn smart they are.

The skanks on any of the Real Housewives shows don't even hold a candle to this level of faggotry.

Posted by: ballistic at June 18, 2026 03:17 PM (5aZAZ)

81 If Trump didn't exist, these perfumed, puffed-up lisping poofers would just invent a "Trump" to justify why they can't vote for conservative legislation.

Because Trump isn't the issue--the issue is the issue.

It could be some no-name, nobody running for state senate in Nebraska said something the media said was mean about women who've been raped and so "I can't in good conscious vote to limit abortion."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:18 PM (73/SM)

82 Thune: Some "Republican" Senators Hate Trump Too Much to Protect the Integrity of Federal Elections

Yeah, that's it. It's Trump's fault. Could it be that there is no integrity of Federal elections to protect and that it's on purpose?

Posted by: t-bird at June 18, 2026 03:18 PM (wn0/z)

83 I noticed Pat Tillman's game day stats scrolling across the bottom of the screen in that Arizona Cardinals YouTube clip. Farewell to a great American hero. You were not treated well by our military leaders, unfortunately.

It still makes me a little angry and sad that he died the way he did.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (EU//e)

84 We are not a serious autocracy.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (Gqar8)

85
A closed-door GOP lunch, huh? Who are they trying to conceal their actions from, us?

It's nice that someone in attendance ratted them out.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (2qhzn)

86 It’s as if they lie not because it’s in the service of some greater good, but because it’s their nature.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (kYmoU)

Almost as if they were in thrall to a supernatural force which compelled lies. Weird, isn't it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (ExV1e)

87 To borrow a phrase from that eminent sage and philosopher Winston Wolfe, WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: James Talarico at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM

Fine. You and your pals can wait until Friday night.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (Wnv9h)

88 Bunch of fucking children in the GOPe.

Posted by: Delurker at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (gtcuf)

89 Well .. its obvious. We must listen to the wise words of William F. Buckley ... and continue to get our asses kicked.

Fifteen Yard Penaly on myself - improper use of "we". Buckley was a moron.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (IdfaO)

90 But you know what? If I was Lee I'd rewrite the legislation with some minor changes and call it, "The Donald Trump is a big meanie but I want ballot integrity Act"

Go full Democrat. Call it the "I Love Fluffy Kittens and Puppies Act". They'd name a bill that and it would actually mandate setting pregnant women on fire or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (2ocoG)

91 At DM: "They've FINALLY found it! Scientists create first-ever 'map' of female pleasure center that's confused men for centuries"

Imma guess the female pleasure center is somewhere within the purse.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (Jr5Lq)

92
Cowardly faggot traitors?

Ace is being nice today.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (Y8DZL)

93 Statesmen? Is that what we call these narcessistic, power mad hypocrates now?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (wBaIH)

94 Honest elections - not the hill to die on.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (Gqar8)

95 And I bet it will pass.

Justine Bateman
@JustineBateman
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16h
Don’t know if there is a complete absence of economics understanding in CA, but if you get rid of the billionaires here, you will get rid of all the taxes they pay. About 85% of CA revenue is paid by the top 1%. If you don’t want the city to afford to function, go ahead and get rid of the wealthy citizens.

Rob Pyers
@rpyers
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17h
JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (kX27y)

96 They are against SAVE because they are being paid to stop any reforms like this from going through

They are against electoral reform because the GOP relies on it to keep primary challengers from toppling incumbents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM (UZCuZ)

97 Well, see, it's like this. I don't have to pretend anymore so fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you!

Posted by: John Cornyn, Mean Girl at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (2UnvF)

98 We are not a serious autocracy.

If you gave the average GOPer a truth serum they'd tell you the only damn thing they care about is getting "generational wealth"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (sKqQm)

99 I wonder if they could be tricked by adding a clause that bans Trump from running for a third term. You can still call it the SAVE America Act.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (kYmoU)

100 But John Solomon said on Dan Bongino's show that ....!!

LOL

Those two are worse than a broken clock--we're all still waiting for the hour when they'll be right.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (73/SM)

101 Imma guess the female pleasure center is somewhere within the purse.

that's wrong and sexist. Its in your wallet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (UZCuZ)

102 And I bet it will pass.

No matter how the citizens vote.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (2YhKe)

103 48 McConnell looks like he’s one nap away from the big sleep.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (i6xMV)

I wonder if he'll come out of the hospital alive.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)

For the sake of control of the Senate, I hope that Mitch stays alive. I won't say much more than that, however.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:21 PM (EU//e)

104 Replacing those five (hopefully we get Whatley to replace Tillis instead of Cooper) will do more for the direction of the Senate than any strings Thune can pull.

The problem isn't leadership. It's the senators themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)

Whenever I see the name Whatley I can’t help but think of Bryan Cranston on Seinfeld… the dentist that converted to Judaism strictly for the jokes…

You heard the one about Raquel Welch and the pope in a rowboat? Those aren’t buoys!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (+gA9j)

105 Don’t know if there is a complete absence of economics understanding in CA, but if you get rid of the billionaires here, you will get rid of all the taxes they pay. About 85% of CA revenue is paid by the top 1%. If you don’t want the city to afford to function, go ahead and get rid of the wealthy citizens.

First they burn down the city then they burn down the finances.

I'm sure the literal raping will be coming along soon as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (sKqQm)

106 Gents ... seriously ... many of you are letting me down here.

They hate Trump. Both parties. But they don't hate something like the SAVE act because of Trump.

They hate it precisely because the current system was supposed to stop a Trump. The system isn't rigged enough in their minds.

This is not hard to understand.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (IdfaO)

107 The skanks on any of the Real Housewives shows don't even hold a candle to this level of faggotry.
Posted by: ballistic at June 18, 2026 03:17 PM (5aZAZ)
=====

I hate that Kelsey such a whore.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (RIvkX)

108 So was Bill Buckley wrong about the John Birch Society?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (+gA9j)

109 It's okay ladies. I'm back.
Posted by: ....... at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

From Ozempic to Extenze.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:12 PM (2YhKe)

I was gonna go with Enzyte.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (zZu0s)

110 105 Don’t know if there is a complete absence of economics understanding in CA, but if you get rid of the billionaires here, you will get rid of all the taxes they pay. About 85% of CA revenue is paid by the top 1%. If you don’t want the city to afford to function, go ahead and get rid of the wealthy citizens.

First they burn down the city then they burn down the finances.

I'm sure the literal raping will be coming along soon as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (sKqQm)

Red Army, 1945, Fever Dreams.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (Gqar8)

111 I wonder if they could be tricked by adding a clause that bans Trump from running for a third term. You can still call it the SAVE America Act.

You know this is a brilliant idea

Copy the SAVE Act.

But re-write the first part to specifically ban Donald Trump from running again. Then any GOPer/Dem that votes against you accuse of wanting another term for Trump...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (sKqQm)

112
I was gonna go with Enzyte.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:23 PM (zZu0s)

6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

113 Posted by: ....... at June 18, 2026 03:11 PM (ixZ1o)

Now he's competing with the Paolo.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:15 PM (77rzZ)

Note I stuck with 7 because *no one* was gonna buy 8

Posted by: ... at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (ixZ1o)

114 Go long on tar and feathers.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

You spelled 'Gibbeting' wrong.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 18, 2026 03:04 PM (ItpVy)

Potato, tomato.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (dK+Kv)

115 At DM: "They've FINALLY found it! Scientists create first-ever 'map' of female pleasure center that's confused men for centuries"

Imma guess the female pleasure center is somewhere within the purse.
Posted by: gp

Nah, gotta be in the feet. Something to do with shoes.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (77rzZ)

116 Cowardly faggot traitors?

Ace is being nice today.

Posted by: Auspex

That's not fair. I'm not a traitor!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham as Luanne Platter at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (yFLFB)

117 And I bet it will pass.

Justine Bateman
@JustineBateman
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16h
Don’t know if there is a complete absence of economics understanding in CA, but if you get rid of the billionaires here, you will get rid of all the taxes they pay. About 85% of CA revenue is paid by the top 1%. If you don’t want the city to afford to function, go ahead and get rid of the wealthy citizens.

Rob Pyers
@rpyers
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17h
JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM

Who knew that Mallory was really the smart one?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (Wnv9h)

118 Back from the dentist. Nothing wrong with my teeth. Never is, but they still keep me coming back ev 6 months. They have rebranded: new name, new logos, neon signs on the walls, much much longer pre-appointment forms to fill out. 2026 appears to be a Year of Rebranding across the nation.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (Jr5Lq)

119 But re-write the first part to specifically ban Donald Trump from running again. Then any GOPer/Dem that votes against you accuse of wanting another term for Trump...

Just slip it into one of those 90,000 page omnibus spending bills. Nobody reads it all. Nobody even knows what is in those things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:25 PM (UZCuZ)

120
This is not hard to understand.
Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (IdfaO)

Well, it's a good thing we have you here to explain things to us dumb yokels.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:25 PM (2YhKe)

121 We don't have to worry about RINOs here in California.

Posted by: wth at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (UjdFS)

122 We are not a serious autocracy.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (Gqar

That's because we are not a serious oligarchy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (dK+Kv)

123 IOW, it's not only true, but those individuals have anxiety over being publicly outed and made primary targets in their next election efforts.

So, guess what we should do.
Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:17 PM (dIske)

Announce that, since the haters lack the honest to come forward and announce themselves, and the others lack the sense of duty to come forward and name them, that we must primary every single sitting Senator and continue doing so until they are all removed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (ExV1e)

124 So was Bill Buckley wrong about the John Birch Society?

Was there communist infiltration among our elites? Yes

Were the Birchers always right about who the commies were? No.

Would America have been better off if the "right leaning" party would have been consistently looking for communist infiltration and treating it as a serious thing? Yes.

So in aggregate yes Buckley was wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (sKqQm)

125 I bet all GOPe senators get automatic California gay certification.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (3uBP9)

126 Nah, gotta be in the feet. Something to do with shoes.

And bags. Super overpriced ugly purses that don't hold very much but everyone has told them that they are hot and sexy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (UZCuZ)

127 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

They kept changing thr name- probably getting their asses sued.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (zZu0s)

128
JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.
Posted by: beckster

It doesn't matter if it fails in november, the commiecourts will do what they did with gay marriage there and just declare it law.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (Y8DZL)

129
Nah, gotta be in the feet. Something to do with shoes.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (77rzZ)

Missed opportunity to sock Mars Blackmon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:27 PM (2YhKe)

130 The political class has become untenable and must be destroyed. Only then can the broken political system be rectified.

Followed by the corrupt judiciary.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 18, 2026 03:27 PM (jehhT)

131 And I bet it will pass.
......

If not we have a gay judge who will make it so.

Posted by: wth at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (UjdFS)

132 105 Don’t know if there is a complete absence of economics understanding in CA, but if you get rid of the billionaires here, you will get rid of all the taxes they pay. About 85% of CA revenue is paid by the top 1%. If you don’t want the city to afford to function, go ahead and get rid of the wealthy citizens.

First they burn down the city then they burn down the finances.

I'm sure the literal raping will be coming along soon as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:22 PM (sKqQm)

I never thought that Hollywood would have been able to kill the Star Wars franchise - one which was more vital and durable than even James Bond - but they were able to kill that golden goose. Silicon Valley is the closest thing we have to a golden goose in business, and I'll be darned if CA doesn't manage to kill that goose as well. You may have the same people, but you cannot recreate that ecosystem anywhere else. Why? many people have tried without success. If they destroy the Valley, the damage to the country could be incalculable. Those idiots might just go ahead and do it anyway.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (EU//e)

133 We are not a serious autocracy.
Posted by: tubal

Have knout, will travel.
-- Zombie Peter the Great

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (77rzZ)

134
Omar, Omar, Omar......you got played.

Conservative Brief
@ConservBrief
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21h
Obama Scandal EXPLODES!!

Stunning news - some minority-owned and local subcontractors who helped with construction of the Barack Obama Presidential Center opening on Juneteenth are still unpaid - owed MILLIONS as they face financial ruin.

African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)

135 "They've FINALLY found it! Scientists create first-ever 'map' of female pleasure center that's confused men for centuries"

Back in the 1800s the treatment for female anxiety and hysteria was a doctor rubbing your button.

Though modern commenters use this as an opportunity to argue our ancestors were dumb I suspect every doctor/patient knew exactly what they were doing

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (sKqQm)

136 I know we talk a lot about the federal level because it dominates.

But the reality is, every red state could be passing it's own version of the SAVE Act as well.

I know KY recently passed several provisions that mirror the SAVE Act; even putting voter ID as a constitutional amendment.

How many other red states have done this?
If not, why not?

But you know why, oh say ... Georgia, isn't passing any election integrity laws.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (73/SM)

137
They kept changing thr name- probably getting their asses sued.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 18, 2026 03:26 PM (zZu0s)/i]

Have a friend that became an airplane mechanic. Worked at Addison Airport north of Dallas where lots of private jets come through.

They were doing an annual inspection on a craft that Tony Stewart was selling to Ryan Newman, both of NASCAR fame.

He said they kept finding empty packs of Enzyte all over the plane.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:29 PM (2YhKe)

138 We aren't ever healing as a nation until Juneteenth is removed as the dumb fake holiday it is. And when calendars stop putting Kwanzaa on them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:29 PM (UZCuZ)

139 The fact they haven't passed it yet is all the proof I need that the senate Republicans are mostly worthless RINOs. When 80% of the USA wants voter ID, and you ignore us, there will be consequences.
Talk all you want but it's Mid June now, you've had all year. Action matters, not talk.

Posted by: Green Beans R Us at June 18, 2026 03:29 PM (W+TLY)

140 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)

Shareef don't like it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:29 PM (2YhKe)

141 So was Bill Buckley wrong about the John Birch Society?

Yes. Because at the end of the day ... Buckley thought Politics would work it all out. That elections would be fair and we'd end up with some analog process were we'd get 55% this and 45% that and nobody would be trampled on too hard.

Of course, his ass thought that because he was rich. He never considered for a day the idea of getting a knife put to his throat on his commute from here to there.

Can't stand Buckley.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:30 PM (IdfaO)

142 indeed, Comrade Flounder.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 18, 2026 03:03 PM (wtvvX)

And another is claimed...

Tex for the love of God, reconsider. Once you agree with him once, it's impossible to get out of it. Take it from me.

Go. I beg you. Go while you still can!
Posted by: .. at June 18, 2026 03:09 PM

Comrade Flounder may have captured one dot, but the other two are ours!!!!!

Posted by: Big Penguin at June 18, 2026 03:30 PM (0sNs1)

143 We need to return to State Legislatures electing their Senators.

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:30 PM (An6iH)

144 130 The political class has become untenable and must be destroyed. Only then can the broken political system be rectified.

Followed by the corrupt judiciary.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 18, 2026 03:27 PM (jehhT)

Love him or hate him or a little of both, the Trumpist Populism we have in place is the only method we have for changing the country without Civil War. Trump wil go, but his methods could remain.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:30 PM (Gqar8)

145 >> African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"

Obama using unpaid black labor to build his monument is *chef's kiss*

Posted by: the dandy at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (8l8nW)

146 Made us a lot of money, too.

Posted by: Hitachi at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (5aZAZ)

147 The haters include Thune.

Posted by: M. Gaga at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (zeLd4)

148 But the reality is, every red state could be passing it's own version of the SAVE Act as well.

yeah like Florida did years ago. Texas could, if Abbot pivoted the right direction that day. Its just sad how all these "red" states aren't really red at all, they just tend to vote against Democrats in national elections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (UZCuZ)

149 WF Buckley was controlled opposition.

I agreed with his yeeting of Sobran from National Review, but that was about it.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (77rzZ)

150 What few John Birch vids I've seen, I didn't observe anything particularly objectionable in what they were saying.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

151 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
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And I say, what better way to celebrate Juneteenth than with a favored African-American tradition--not paying your bills.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (73/SM)

152 Name fucking names.

Put Trump in front of a podium, name names, and make them squirm.

Trump needs to make these assholes' constituency call them incessantly.

Make life hard for these pricks.

Not their families. I mean their political lives.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (fgSb9)

153 Stunning news - some minority-owned and local subcontractors who helped with construction of the Barack Obama Presidential Center opening on Juneteenth are still unpaid - owed MILLIONS as they face financial ruin.

African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster

Quite the gathering at the opening today. A veritable who's who of who's who plus George Bush.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (lJ0H4)

154 I never thought that Hollywood would have been able to kill the Star Wars franchise - one which was more vital and durable than even James Bond - but they were able to kill that golden goose. Silicon Valley is the closest thing we have to a golden goose in business, and I'll be darned if CA doesn't manage to kill that goose as well. You may have the same people, but you cannot recreate that ecosystem anywhere else. Why? many people have tried without success. If they destroy the Valley, the damage to the country could be incalculable. Those idiots might just go ahead and do it anyway.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (EU//e)

Also, with distribution and communication as they are you don't need to put all your eggs in one district basket anymore. You don't have to have your success price out the market near your HQ, you can have it wherever you want it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (uhVAy)

155
Obama using unpaid black labor to build his monument is *chef's kiss*
Posted by: the dandy at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (8l8nW)

Could it be.......SLAVERY!??

Posted by: The OTHER Church Lady at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (2YhKe)

156 Thune is a spineless cunt.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (fgSb9)

157 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)

Are you a for-real muzzie, Omar? If so, declare a jihad against Barky.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (1z8ji)

158 So in aggregate yes Buckley was wrong.

And to return to this topic, any American in say 1956 given a vision of America in 2026 would be shocked and horrified. Right, left, center...trannies twerking for kids? Mass immigration of jihadis? Endless graft going to Somali Learing centers?

So Buckley FAILED. He stopped NOTHING. In fact he failed in ways that people of his era couldn't even have imagined us failing in.

And failure is supposed to mean you try something different. This is why we have Trump as the GOP standard bearer now not a Jeb Bush clone

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (sKqQm)

159 17h
JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.
Posted by: beckster
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[fades up Elton John, 'Burn Down the Mission']

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (XeU6L)

160 Stunning news - some minority-owned and local subcontractors who helped with construction of the Barack Obama Presidential Center opening on Juneteenth are still unpaid - owed MILLIONS as they face financial ruin.

African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster

Quite the gathering at the opening today. A veritable who's who of who's who plus George Bush.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (lJ0H4)

I suggest some peaceful protesting at the site, people.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (uhVAy)

161 >> African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"

Juneteenth is not a Holiday.

It's not even a Day.

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (An6iH)

162 Go long on tar and feathers.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:02 PM (dK+Kv
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Yes. If only we had a tried and true method of dealing with these traitors. If only.

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (F9bBk)

163 Also, with distribution and communication as they are you don't need to put all your eggs in one district basket anymore. You don't have to have your success price out the market near your HQ, you can have it wherever you want it.

People are making ultra low budget AI movies that are getting serious eyeballs. There was a remake of Harry Potter where instead of magic it was about working out for example, and there is a fan made Warhammer40K short movie coming out.

Hollywood is about to die.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (sKqQm)

164 Speaking of slavery, how is it legal to purchase a human being as long as you call it "surrogacy" in the USA? What a huge horrible loophole.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (UZCuZ)

165
Juneteenth is not a Holiday.

It's not even a Day.
Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (An6iH)

It is so!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (2YhKe)

166 "The Shadows of Power" was a Birch book I read in the 90's. Made sense then, makes more sense now.

Posted by: connected and litigious at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (cS1cw)

167 44 Jerking committee spots is fascist or something. Party discipline is also cultish. Or something.
Posted by: connected and litigious at June 18, 2026 03:08 PM (cS1cw)

{perks up}

Jerking.. committee? So, like, you arrange the porta-potties in a circle? Doors open or closed?

Posted by: Maine Goon at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (Sy6m/)

168 JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:20 PM

Who knew that Mallory was really the smart one?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 18, 2026 03:24 PM (Wnv9h)
______________________

They assume that eventually the Democrats will control the Oval office and both parts of Congress once again, and get federal handouts from the rest of us to continue to exist. There are a lot of entities depending upon that (journalism, NGO's, Blue states, Blue City pension accounts).

The Executive Order Fiats, appropriation bills, and treasury checks are going to rain down upon them the second the Left gets back all three branches of the federal govt. I'm hoping I get hit by a bus in an interim and am not here to see it.

Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (dIske)

169
Omar Shareef?

He did better in "Lawrence" than as "Dr. Zhivago".

Good to see he got out of acting but, jeez, gotta be 100 years old.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (Y8DZL)

170 Quite the gathering at the opening today. A veritable who's who of who's who plus George Bush.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:31 PM (lJ0H4)

I know, George and Barbara and Spielberg and Hanks......Bono, Springsteen, Marc Anthony....and, Valerie Jarrett gave the land acknowledgment. BTW, Bill Clinton looks as bad as Joe Biden does.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (kX27y)

171 Bush and Obama are ood buddies. That speaks volumes about our current state of affairs.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (Gqar8)

172 hopefully we get Whatley to replace Tillis instead of Cooper
__

Nu uh!

Posted by: Charlotte Learing and Voter Fraud Center at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (qUkBO)

173 So in aggregate yes Buckley was wrong.

And to return to this topic, any American in say 1956 given a vision of America in 2026 would be shocked and horrified. Right, left, center...trannies twerking for kids? Mass immigration of jihadis? Endless graft going to Somali Learing centers?

So Buckley FAILED. He stopped NOTHING. In fact he failed in ways that people of his era couldn't even have imagined us failing in.

And failure is supposed to mean you try something different. This is why we have Trump as the GOP standard bearer now not a Jeb Bush clone
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (sKqQm)

Buckley made the GOP look elitist and hostile to middle America. Never saw a reason for adulation.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (uhVAy)

174 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)

https://youtu.be/4CVFOnmW6v8

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (ExV1e)

175 Bush and Obama are ood buddies. That speaks volumes about our current state of affairs.

Look Barry is willing to do stop Laura isn't - what else can I say?

Posted by: George Bush at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (sKqQm)

176 So Buckley FAILED. He stopped NOTHING. In fact he failed in ways that people of his era couldn't even have imagined us failing in.

That is ultimately the flaw of conservatism: it accomplishes nothing other than great arguments. They win all the debates, they have all the best winning zingers, and accomplish nothing. It doesn't matter if you win debates with your think tank when the ratchet keeps going clank clank clank for the left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (UZCuZ)

177 Love him or hate him or a little of both, the Trumpist Populism we have in place is the only method we have for changing the country without Civil War. Trump wil go, but his methods could remain.

Nationalist Populist. Was an instant ban from Maet. He feared the phrase.

But that is what it is. Nationalist Populist.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (IdfaO)

178 So Buckley FAILED. He stopped NOTHING. In fact he failed in ways that people of his era couldn't even have imagined us failing in.
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Standing athwart history and yelling "stop!" has a lower success rate than the prevent defense: 0.00% success

Political wars are won on the offense, never but never have they been won on the defense.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (73/SM)

179 I doubt Thune said that. Other stories say he said “Democrats” hate trump too much to vote for it.

Either way it’s pretty easy to see who those Rs might be - the 4 who voted against it. There’s been 2 votes on the SAVE America Act in the Senate. 48 votes. Even a filibuster wouldn’t help.

Meanwhile, the House hasn’t even voted on it, yet Johnson skates.

Posted by: Purple at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (wFksi)

180 Omar Shareef?

He did better in "Lawrence" than as "Dr. Zhivago".

Good to see he got out of acting but, jeez, gotta be 100 years old.
Posted by: Auspex

Omar is mort. He was born a Christian, but converted to Islham because he married an islhamette.

Eff that guy.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (77rzZ)

181 @95

>>17h
JUST IN: California's billionaire wealth tax initiative has collected enough valid signatures to be eligible for the November ballot.

I don't think they will be done counting the primary election ballots by then.

Should be interesting.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (XV/Pl)

182 Personally I think all the anti-Trumpsters that oppose this bill and reduced immigration are on the take from all the body shops from India, for instance.

Posted by: Random PJ at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (+jscL)

183 good buddies, not ood buddies - although my typo was close to odd buddies, which also works - oddly enough.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (Gqar8)

184 "Bush and Obama are good buddies."

W's a friendly kinda guy I think. He gets along with Michelle quite well; so I've heard.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

185
That is ultimately the flaw of conservatism: it accomplishes nothing other than great arguments. They win all the debates, they have all the best winning zingers, and accomplish nothing. It doesn't matter if you win debates with your think tank when the ratchet keeps going clank clank clank for the left.

Why are my ears tingling?

Posted by: Ben Shapiro at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (sKqQm)

186 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)
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You voted for Obama, amirite? Suckit.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (RIvkX)

187 Standing athwart history and yelling "stop!" has a lower success rate than the prevent defense: 0.00% success

We'll pull the goalie, its sure to work this time!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (UZCuZ)

188 Omar is mort. He was born a Christian, but converted to Islham because he married an islhamette.

Eff that guy.
Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (77rzZ)

Crossed the Rainbow Bridge on a 3 no Trump contract...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (1z8ji)

189 I hear that Boston is having an issue with Scots. The Scot FIFA fans are trying their best to drink Boston dry, and apparently having some success. At least one of the bars where the Scots are meeting has had to make emergency orders for more Sam Adams beer.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (qx7Zg)

190 This column I rank as "mostly true".

Part of the issue is that the conservative right envision themselves as the normative voice of the right, but perhaps that isn't true.

It's not as if Lindsay Graham hasn't been primaryed, and yet his constituents re-elect him. McConnell and others as well.

And for the most part, when polled most Republicans will say they agree with the conservative right. But when it comes to conforming their actions and their votes to these principals as disconnect.

Anecdotally, I know a roofer with MAGA stickers all over his truck. And yet every single employee that showed up to roof my house were ESL Mexicans.

Perhaps it's simply a case of RINO politicians representing their RINO constituents.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (qoEJr)

191 Juneteenth is not a Holiday.

It's not even a Day.
Posted by: garrett
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Official Federal holiday 'Juneteenth National Independence Day'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (XeU6L)

192 Didn't we have Ood Buddies as this morning's art?

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (77rzZ)

193 George Bush can genuinely kiss my ass. What a friggen POS in every way he turned out to be.

Fuck off with your asshole wars, too, George. Your whole family is garbage.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (fgSb9)

194 Also, with distribution and communication as they are you don't need to put all your eggs in one district basket anymore. You don't have to have your success price out the market near your HQ, you can have it wherever you want it.

People are making ultra low budget AI movies that are getting serious eyeballs. There was a remake of Harry Potter where instead of magic it was about working out for example, and there is a fan made Warhammer40K short movie coming out.

Hollywood is about to die.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:33 PM (sKqQm)

its already dead. They film in cheaper areas already and the drones running things are more interested in pushing a point nobody wants to see than even wealth.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (uhVAy)

195 One difference you see consistently between the left and right is that if the left wants say $50B for something they'll come out and say anything less then $200B is an outrage and leads to kids dying in the streets.

The GOPe then comes in and talks them down to...$100B and claims they cut $100B from the budget well the Dems laugh about getting twice what they wanted.

And this happens everywhere in DC with everything.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (sKqQm)

196 88 Bunch of fucking children in the GOPe.
Posted by: Delurker at June 18, 2026 03:19 PM (gtcuf)

Where?!

Posted by: Lincoln Project at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (3d9VR)

197 I honestly wonder about some that liked Buckley. He seemed incredibly punchable in the face.

OK - Bandersnatch - I can see why he liked Buckley. And Ace seemed to quote him a lot back in the day.

But honestly - fuck that guy in particular was my first reaction. Early 80s. About the time they were starting to send all the mills and factories overseas.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (IdfaO)

198 I know, George and Barbara and Spielberg and Hanks......Bono, Springsteen, Marc Anthony....and, Valerie Jarrett gave the land acknowledgment. BTW, Bill Clinton looks as bad as Joe Biden does.
Posted by: beckster

Hillary wearing a raincoat for some reason. Laura Bush looks ill.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (lJ0H4)

199
W's a friendly kinda guy I think. He gets along with Michelle quite well; so I've heard.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

I'm old enough to remember when the left referred to him as "Chimpy McBushHitler."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (2YhKe)

200 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:28 PM (kX27y)
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Shareef don't like it

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:39 PM (F9bBk)

201 Imagine outdrinking Boston natives.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:39 PM (3d9VR)

202 These Senators did not only turn on Trump they turned on their voters. Voters do NOT like to be lied to. That is the worst thing they can do. And they make the rest of their party look bad. Idiot politicians, it's not your vote it's it's the vote of the people who sent you there.

Posted by: Case at June 18, 2026 03:39 PM (IY9No)

203 Why are my ears tingling?
Posted by: Ben Shapiro

Speaking of ol Ben, his organization fired the one guy who understood that we have to fix popular culture and was putting out conservative content in movies. He was the guy that made stuff like "What Is A Woman" and "Pendragon Cycle." Some of it was pretty lame like "Ladyballers" and some of it was good. But they were making an impact.

Ben fired him. The Daily Wire lost money on a few of the efforts, so they dropped the entire effort. Because unlike the left, right leaning stuff isn't willing to eat a loss for a while to get the message out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:39 PM (UZCuZ)

204 I hear that Boston is having an issue with Scots. The Scot FIFA fans are trying their best to drink Boston dry, and apparently having some success. At least one of the bars where the Scots are meeting has had to make emergency orders for more Sam Adams beer.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (qx7Zg)

Saw fans in the stands waving Scottish flags during the Red Sox/Jays game.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 18, 2026 03:40 PM (1z8ji)

205 Standing athwart history and yelling "stop!" has a lower success rate than the prevent defense: 0.00% success

We'll pull the goalie, its sure to work this time!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (UZCuZ)

I don't recall him or his magazine ever really do that. More like whine about things and feel superior to the flyover states.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:40 PM (uhVAy)

206 People are making ultra low budget AI movies that are getting serious eyeballs. There was a remake of Harry Potter where instead of magic it was about working out for example, and there is a fan made Warhammer40K short movie coming out.

Hollywood is about to die.
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Their brilliant idea to deal with the emerging threat of AI entertainment was to deploy 100+ year old tactics of ... going on strike.

Oh, big win! You fought for name, image and likeness compensation if used in AI.

Guess what?
AI can make better looking, better sounding, zero-politics replacements.
You are not the star.
You never were the star.
The story was always the star.
And there is no demand for another alphabet people story, the only one you want to tell.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:40 PM (73/SM)

207 199
I'm old enough to remember when the left referred to him as "Chimpy McBushHitler."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (2YhKe)

I think they truly don’t care about any of that. They grift, and they go, with their bags of swag.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (Gqar8)

208 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef

==

Did not like him in Doctor Zhivago.

Posted by: runner at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (GD0B3)

209 If Bush is good buddies with Obama, that tells me he is even more of a giant asshole than I thought.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (fgSb9)

210 ..he was much better in Laurence of Arabia, though!

Posted by: runner at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (GD0B3)

211 African American Contractors Association President Omar Shareef: "What sense is celebrating Juneteenth if our black contractors are not getting their money?"
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And I say, what better way to celebrate Juneteenth than with a favored African-American tradition--not paying your bills.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So once they get paid, they come in with real concrete to replace the dried Play-Doh they used building it?

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (OUMaO)

212 I hear that Boston is having an issue with Scots. The Scot FIFA fans are trying their best to drink Boston dry, and apparently having some success. At least one of the bars where the Scots are meeting has had to make emergency orders for more Sam Adams beer.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (qx7Zg)

Seems the Brits are as well. A popular bar in Dallas had to close down for a couple days as they were out of just about everything, food AND booze, and waited for a delivery before reopening.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (2YhKe)

213 Anecdotally, I know a roofer with MAGA stickers all over his truck. And yet every single employee that showed up to roof my house were ESL Mexicans.

The system rewards him for hiring illegals - he gets more money in his pocket by doing so.

If you want to fix things you have to make the system reward the things you want and punish those you don't.

Yes this is the opposite of the traditional GOPer argument that they can't pass a law against X until they change hearts and minds or some shit first. But this is the opposite of true. Ban it and many people will embrace what the law says as their morality and more will follow it because they want rewards and not punishment.

So to go back to your specific example if we ever did get around to penalizing business owners personally for hiring illegals this guy would stop but nothing else will make him do so.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (sKqQm)

214 “Thanks Coach!”

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (6ydKt)

215 Speaking of ol Ben

I'd rather speak of his sister. How's she doing ? And by she ? I mean her sweater.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (IdfaO)

216 I know we haven't covered it yet today...

However, am I the only one thinking that the Ukrainian Actions against Russian Oil Infrastructure was timed to thwart the Market Effects of Trump opening the Strait of Hormuz via his Iran Agreement?

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (An6iH)

217 If Bush is good buddies with Obama, that tells me he is even more of a giant asshole than I thought.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:41 PM (fgSb9)

Like they say, once you go black......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (2YhKe)

218 198 I know, George and Barbara and Spielberg and Hanks......Bono, Springsteen, Marc Anthony....and, Valerie Jarrett gave the land acknowledgment. BTW, Bill Clinton looks as bad as Joe Biden does.
Posted by: beckster

Hillary wearing a raincoat for some reason. Laura Bush looks ill.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (lJ0H4)

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What a fucking line-up of scum and villany.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (fgSb9)

219 Remember:
John Cornyn pushed to make Juneteenth a holiday.

And blacks in Texas rewarded him by ... voting in the Democrat primary for Crockett.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:43 PM (73/SM)

220 Sharif's best role was in Funny Girl.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:43 PM (77rzZ)

221 I still think Thune is projecting. I'd bet if someone polled the Senate Republicans only a handful, maybe less would openly say "they hate Trump." Yet, someone needs to ask Thune, and any of the never-Trump Republicans why they'd turn their backs on the people who voted them into office and also support Trump.

How do they justify that betrayal? I mean, besides money. And the whole "saving democracy" bullshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 18, 2026 03:43 PM (jehhT)

222 Force a vote. Make them identify themselves. By not taking the vote leadership is supporting the no vote.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 18, 2026 03:43 PM (vHMT8)

223
Guilty of liking Buckley in the day myself.

But, yeah, Ivy League Catholic that looked down on working Americans as rubes.

Bill Kristol spent most of his early career mimicking him.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (Y8DZL)

224 Juneteenth is a stupid idea for a holiday.

I'd be willing to consider one around the 13th amendment or a "Will Wilberforce" day but celebrating the day one group of former slaves in Texas found out they had been freed is a national holiday?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (sKqQm)

225 TJM, what's your opinion of Lean's Dickens stuff -- Oliver Twist and Great Expectations?

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (77rzZ)

226 Hillary wearing a raincoat for some reason. Laura Bush looks ill.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (lJ0H4)

Yeah, noticed the bulky raincoat. Bill was falling asleep but is wearing cool sunglasses. Sasha has gained a ton of weight and is huge. Malia looks like a stick figure with awful, too-long, stringy hair.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (kX27y)

227 The point has been made that Juneteenth celebrates the day Republicans freed the democrats slaves. Reason enough for a holiday.

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (F9bBk)

228 If Bush is good buddies with Obama, that tells me he is even more of a giant asshole than I thought.

This is going to be a problem. Sit down.

Ric Flair and Rick Steamboat ? They didn't hate each other. It was just a show.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (IdfaO)

229 However, am I the only one thinking that the Ukrainian Actions against Russian Oil Infrastructure was timed to thwart the Market Effects of Trump opening the Strait of Hormuz via his Iran Agreement?
Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (An6iH)

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No, you are not. Deepstate is alive and well and working their asses off against the American people.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (fgSb9)

230 Guilty of liking Buckley in the day myself.

But, yeah, Ivy League Catholic that looked down on working Americans as rubes.

Bill Kristol spent most of his early career mimicking him.

Say about me what you want, but you know I never had my way with a cabin boy

Posted by: William Buckley at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (sKqQm)

231 I don't recall him or his magazine ever really do that. More like whine about things and feel superior to the flyover states.

That was, as I recall, his definition of conservatism "standing athwart history and saying 'stop'" which as People's Hippo Voice pointed out accomplished zero, like pulling your goalie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (UZCuZ)

232 So once they get paid, they come in with real concrete to replace the dried Play-Doh they used building it?
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You're thinking of Tofu Construction, a specialty of the Chinese

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (73/SM)

233 I know we haven't covered it yet today...

However, am I the only one thinking that the Ukrainian Actions against Russian Oil Infrastructure was timed to thwart the Market Effects of Trump opening the Strait of Hormuz via his Iran Agreement?
Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (An6iH)

Russian oil is at least theoretically still embargoed and still being sold all over the world under the table.

And a bit of flame retardant work and that tank and most of its oil will be ready to be sold. Its pretty hard to damage oil installations, WWII showed that. Makes a pretty picture though.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:46 PM (uhVAy)

234 220 Sharif's best role was in Funny Girl.
Posted by: Bulg

Probably the last time Striesand looked doable. Barely.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:46 PM (Y8DZL)

235 "Juneteenth is a stupid idea for a holiday.

I'd be willing to consider one around the 13th amendment or a "Will Wilberforce" day but celebrating the day one group of former slaves in Texas found out they had been freed is a national holiday?!?"

Celebrate Booker T Washington, a black leader I admire. If there's something IDK about to hate about the guy, fill me in please.

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

236 I don't recall him or his magazine ever really do that. More like whine about things and feel superior to the flyover states.

That was, as I recall, his definition of conservatism "standing athwart history and saying 'stop'" which as People's Hippo Voice pointed out accomplished zero, like pulling your goalie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:45 PM (UZCuZ)

yes, I knew the attribution, but what did WFB and NR ever really take a stand on?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (uhVAy)

237 173 So in aggregate yes Buckley was wrong.

And to return to this topic, any American in say 1956 given a vision of America in 2026 would be shocked and horrified. Right, left, center...trannies twerking for kids? Mass immigration of jihadis? Endless graft going to Somali Learing centers?

So Buckley FAILED. He stopped NOTHING. In fact he failed in ways that people of his era couldn't even have imagined us failing in...Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:32 PM (sKqQm)

Buckley made the GOP look elitist and hostile to middle America. Never saw a reason for adulation.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (uhVAy)

I completely disagree. Yes, NR is but a RINO husk of its former self, at best. I personally can't believe that all the writers that I followed back in the 90s (with the exception of Derbyshire and Steyn) went over to the Dark Side, but that said Buckley was a giant of the conservative movement. The only one who offered any competition for him back in the 50s was probably Russell Kirk, and he was a writer, not a talker. From Firing Line, to running for NYC mayor in the 60s, and so on, he was the only figure until Rush who could have been the face of The Right.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (EU//e)

238 celebrating the day one group of former slaves in Texas found out they had been freed is a national holiday?!?

Its like making it a holiday that WW2 ended when that last confused Japanese Soldier in the jungle found out decades later.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (UZCuZ)

239 I wonder what Gen Z would make of Dr Zhivago?

They'd think it was do slow of course but...how would they react to the casual violence of the Soviets that looked very much like the casual violence of the German Socialists they've seen many times in film

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (sKqQm)

240 222 Force a vote. Make them identify themselves. By not taking the vote leadership is supporting the no vote.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 18, 2026 03:43 PM (vHMT

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There have been several, and they've been self-identifying.

The problem is that the vast majority who keep voting against it...are not running for re-election (Mitch, Tillis, and Cassidy are on record, though we know for sure that Cornyn won't vote for passage if it's actually needs his vote), plus Murkowski (who is a Democrat).

So, they are the scapegoats.

Getting rid of most of them will help. We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (Zn6QU)

241 The point has been made that Juneteenth celebrates the day Republicans freed the democrats slaves. Reason enough for a holiday.
Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (F9bBk)

Many are slaves, the chains are just mental.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (uhVAy)

242 what did WFB and NR ever really take a stand on?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (uhVAy)

In the 1990s? Marijuana legalization. I'm serious.
I guess they also gave an even handed hearing to "The Bell Curve". The New Republic also tried to, but then they had a staff revolt so all the articles in that issue were about how racist it was.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (3d9VR)

243 225 TJM, what's your opinion of Lean's Dickens stuff -- Oliver Twist and Great Expectations?

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:44 PM (77rzZ)

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Oliver Twist is good. Great Expectations is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (Zn6QU)

244 Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (IdfaO)

John has a long mustache. And the puppies are barking.

Posted by: ... at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (ixZ1o)

245 yes, I knew the attribution, but what did WFB and NR ever really take a stand on?

OH ... I'll take this one.

Vote GOP - early and often. Nio matter what. No matter what the Dirty Democrat says.

Still said today.

And By God ... the Rich must not pay Capital Gains.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (IdfaO)

246 Probably the last time Streisand looked doable. Barely.

Her entire career is baffling to me. How did she get work in Hollywood, let alone as a romantic lead in multiple films? She had a pretty good if highly nasal voice but really? HER?

There were a lot of actors and actresses in the 70s that defy rational explanation as to how they had a career.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (UZCuZ)

247 If you want to fix things you have to make the system reward the things you want and punish those you don't.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM

Oh, we will! We mosdef will! Just you wait!

Posted by: (D)emocrats at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (0sNs1)

248
The "Bradford Oakes" series was awful, but the quip about yacht ownership being like standing in a cold shower peeling off $100 bills was funny.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (Y8DZL)

249 Its like making it a holiday that WW2 ended when that last confused Japanese Soldier in the jungle found out decades later.

But there was still slavery in the US at the time, so the analogy would be like instead of celebrating VJ day on the day Japan surrendered OR the day the last Jap soldier surrendered celebrating the day the Japs left the Philippines or something

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (sKqQm)

250 >>The point has been made that Juneteenth celebrates the day Republicans freed the democrats slaves.

Can we get a Holiday for the day LBJ put them back in Chains?

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (An6iH)

251 Great Expectations is great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM

It met your expectations?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (0sNs1)

252 @238: I work for a state government. This would give me an additional day off. I'm for it.

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (OaiXh)

253 212 I hear that Boston is having an issue with Scots. The Scot FIFA fans are trying their best to drink Boston dry, and apparently having some success. At least one of the bars where the Scots are meeting has had to make emergency orders for more Sam Adams beer.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 18, 2026 03:37 PM (qx7Zg)
____________________

The latest is that they have graduated to a 1980's prank that they do over in Glasgow. They put traffic cones on the heads of authoritative statues. The famous one they did was the Duke of Wellington, and it escalated from there.

So, now, there were about 30 of them trying to get a traffic cone to land on the head of the Samuel Adams statue near Faniel Hall...(which they accomplished).

Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (dIske)

254 251 Great Expectations is great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM

It met your expectations?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (0sNs1)

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Honestly, I expected more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (Zn6QU)

255 Celebrate Booker T Washington, a black leader I admire. If there's something IDK about to hate about the guy, fill me in please.
Posted by: gp

He and Frederick Douglass. Though Douglass had more personal issues, I think. But his heart was in the right place.

Both men believed strongly in education for blacks. A position, that, sadly, the present-day "black community" has rejected.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (77rzZ)

256 Apparently it was a Norfolk man, 30 years old....still haven't named which Mohammed it was.

Matt Van Swol
@mattvanswol
🚨#BREAKING: A 3-YEAR-OLD BOY HAS BEEN THROWN INTO A CROCODILE ENCLOSURE BY A 30-YEAR-OLD MALE AND HAS BEEN MAULED.

THE ATTACK WAS "RANDOM" AND THE MAN TOSSED THE BOY AT THE CROCODILES IN THE UK.

HE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR ATTEMPTED M*RDER.

THEY ARE NOT NAMING THE ATTACKER.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (kX27y)

257 =======

Oliver Twist is good. Great Expectations is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:48 PM (Zn6QU)

That's it?

No wonder you're struggling to get your YT channel off the ground......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (2YhKe)

258 Speaking of ol Ben, his organization fired the one guy who understood that we have to fix popular culture and was putting out conservative content in movies.

Didn't know they fired Matt Walsh, but I get it. A significant number of conservatives, especially older ones, react to the idea of participating in current popular culture with revulsion and disgust. Even when it's to move the Overton window.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (2ocoG)

259 But by all means... Please. do vote yourselves a raise!

Uniparty must be completely destroyed.

Posted by: Melodicmetal at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (61TgR)

260 From Firing Line, to running for NYC mayor in the 60s, and so on, he was the only figure until Rush who could have been the face of The Right.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (EU//e)

And what did his right accomplish? Running down Goldwater, sneering at Reagan who ended up doing more than WFB did by a million. He was controlled oppo.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (uhVAy)

261 Speaking of NR in the lead up to the 2020 election I read their archived articles on Joe Biden's earlier run for president and they just made fun of him the whole time until be dropped out.

Quite a difference from 2020...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (sKqQm)

262 >>There were a lot of actors and actresses in the 70s that defy rational explanation as to how they had a career.

Never underestimate the power of a Prehensile Uvula.

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (An6iH)

263 257 That's it?

No wonder you're struggling to get your YT channel off the ground......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (2YhKe)

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I'm going for pithy!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (Zn6QU)

264 249 Its like making it a holiday that WW2 ended when that last confused Japanese Soldier in the jungle found out decades later.

But there was still slavery in the US at the time, so the analogy would be like instead of celebrating VJ day on the day Japan surrendered OR the day the last Jap soldier surrendered celebrating the day the Japs left the Philippines or something
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:49 PM (sKqQm)

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (bl07w)

265 I work for a state government. This would give me an additional day off. I'm for it.

its like working as a public school teacher. How many full months go by without an extra day off? Hell, how many WEEKS?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (UZCuZ)

266 The system rewards him for hiring illegals - he gets more money in his pocket by doing so.

If you want to fix things you have to make the system reward the things you want and punish those you don't.

And I'm willing to start with million dollar plus fines and/or prison sentences for knowingly hiring an illegal.

Cuz that'd change hearts and minds real fucking rikki tik.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (ExV1e)

267 George Washington Carver is admirable.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (Gqar8)

268 I don't think blacks ever celebrated Juneteeth. It's a made-up holiday that actually makes Texas slaves look like idiots. Only white leftists celebrate Juneteenth. It's like Kwanza.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

269 Buckley made the GOP look elitist and hostile to middle America. Never saw a reason for adulation.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:35 PM (uhVAy)
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This. Despite whatever good ideas he had he was a self-important faculty lounge walking stereotype who when he wasn't acting high and mighty was probably huffing his own farts vigorously.

Posted by: ballistic at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (5aZAZ)

270 Walsh himself kind of has the Ben Shapiro asshole vibe.

He's ideologically better but I find it hard to listen to him for long

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:52 PM (sKqQm)

271
Didn't know they fired Matt Walsh, but I get it. A significant number of conservatives, especially older ones, react to the idea of participating in current popular culture with revulsion and disgust. Even when it's to move the Overton window.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (2ocoG)

He said something critical about Israel and Ben can't have any of that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:52 PM (2YhKe)

272 266 And I'm willing to start with million dollar plus fines and/or prison sentences for knowingly hiring an illegal.

Cuz that'd change hearts and minds real fucking rikki tik.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (ExV1e)

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It's one of the main drivers that made MTG anti-Trump.

Her construction company she co-owns was suddenly met with the reality that labor costs could go up. Because she definitely wasn't hiring illegals. No, sir.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:52 PM (Zn6QU)

273 Never underestimate the power of a Prehensile Uvula.

This would explain how Richard Benjamin was considered a leading man

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (UZCuZ)

274 "Didn't know they fired Matt Walsh"

They fired Matt Walsh?! The damn fools!

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (Jr5Lq)

275 However, am I the only one thinking that the Ukrainian Actions against Russian Oil Infrastructure was timed to thwart the Market Effects of Trump opening the Strait of Hormuz via his Iran Agreement?
Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:42 PM (An6iH)

Almost as if there were a global cabal using economic means to destroy the west. Some sort of world economic something.

Can't be.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (ExV1e)

276 Jerking.. committee? So, like, you arrange the porta-potties in a circle? Doors open or closed?
Posted by: Maine Goon at June 18, 2026 03:34 PM (Sy6m/)

An open door portapotty circle jerk for oyster Nazis is a very outr&ecaute; notion. Bravo.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (BI5O2)

277 I don't think blacks ever celebrated Juneteeth. It's a made-up holiday that actually makes Texas slaves look like idiots. Only white leftists celebrate Juneteenth. It's like Kwanza.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

Incorrect. Texas blacks celebrated Juneteenth every year. They had festivals and parades in most big cities. Everywhere there is a MLK Jr. Blvd, they were celebrating.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (2YhKe)

278 More like whine about things and feel superior to the flyover states."
No denim. Bowties...

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (cGjQu)

279
Also gotta credit WFB for "The Unmaking of a Mayor" and the devastating ridicule of John Lindsey.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (Y8DZL)

280 George Washington Carver is admirable.
Posted by: tubal

Yes, I like him, too. But I don't know much about him.

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (77rzZ)

281 Almost as if there were a global cabal using economic means to destroy the west. Some sort of world economic something.

Nah, just Trump. They time and do things to harm the economy so Trump suffers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (UZCuZ)

282 279
Also gotta credit WFB for "The Unmaking of a Mayor" and the devastating ridicule of John Lindsey.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (Y8DZL)

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That's a good book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (Zn6QU)

283 Bowties?

George Will is a Senator?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (4T3aT)

284 yeah, Juneteenth was always big in Galveston. Houston knew about it and there'd be parties there too if only to keep drunk blacks off the I-45 that night.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (3d9VR)

285 Term limits for RINO co** suckers!

Posted by: Crumps Benjamin at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (Mx+TJ)

286 I hear that Boston is having an issue with Scots.

Because they ain't Irish. Come on. This is not hard.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (IdfaO)

287 Yes, I like him, too. But I don't know much about him.

He invented the peanut

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (UZCuZ)

288 Speaking of ol Ben, his organization fired the one guy who understood that we have to fix popular culture and was putting out conservative content in movies. He was the guy that made stuff like "What Is A Woman" and "Pendragon Cycle." Some of it was pretty lame like "Ladyballers" and some of it was good. But they were making an impact.

Ben fired him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 03:39 PM (UZCuZ)
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Does that mean I don't have to hear him and his absurd voice continue to run against Michael Knowles for the nomination to be the next Pope?

Cause that'd be great.

Posted by: ballistic at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (5aZAZ)

289 260 From Firing Line, to running for NYC mayor in the 60s, and so on, he was the only figure until Rush who could have been the face of The Right.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:47 PM (EU//e)

And what did his right accomplish? Running down Goldwater, sneering at Reagan who ended up doing more than WFB did by a million. He was controlled oppo.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:50 PM (uhVAy)

I largely agree with that - WFB was about as Establishment as you could get. However, there was no movement before Buckley, and of the group that was around only WFB had the gift of organization - as chaotic as it turned out to be, almost from the very beginning. Rush and the movement we have now had to be built on some foundation, and Buckley was it. I'm not sure that we could have had Reagan without Buckley.

Now, he did outlive his usefulness. The success of NR made him the gatekeeper of the movement, which ended to its detriment. His son Spaulding -- oops, Christopher - was not equipped for the next generation of the movement, as well. However, no single person had WFB's talents, and he was the right man for that time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (EU//e)

290 >>George Washington Carver is admirable.

Anybody who can turn a Peanut into a CD Player is worthy of admiration.

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (An6iH)

291 Texas blacks celebrated Juneteenth every year"

Hey, let's make it a federal holiday! That'll keep em voting for us!

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (cGjQu)

292 its like working as a public school teacher. How many full months go by without an extra day off? Hell, how many WEEKS
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Actually I used to work for a university back east. We got lots of days off. Now I work for Wyoming. Honestly, They're pretty stingy with paid time off. It was a shock coming from such a free-loading environment. But I'm way happier now!

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (OaiXh)

293 Speaking of Omar Shareef, Julie Christie had that ethereal beauty back in the day.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (fgSb9)

294 Texas has celebrated Juneteenth for over 160
Years. It was officially recognized in 1980. It’s not some recent white liberal thing.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (bucPA)

295 Celebrate Booker T Washington, a black leader I admire. If there's something IDK about to hate about the guy, fill me in please.
Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

I've always been a fan of George Washington Carver, too. Knew the value of education and did remarkable things with his life.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (k9OZB)

296 Juneteenth is also a big deal in Seattle.

Because the virtue signaling never stops.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (algQV)

297 Hey, let's make it a federal holiday! That'll keep em voting for us!

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (cGjQu)

The ultimate in pander.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (2YhKe)

298 Also gotta credit WFB for "The Unmaking of a Mayor" and the devastating ridicule of John Lindsey.
Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 03:54 PM (Y8DZL)

Republican Mayor Lindsey?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (uhVAy)

299 262 >>There were a lot of actors and actresses in the 70s that defy rational explanation as to how they had a career.

Never underestimate the power of a Prehensile Uvula.
Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (An6iH)
____________________________________
Bo Derek was the female version of Tommy Wiseau if acting is the qualifier (with the exception being that anyone with testosterone in any quantity had her swimsuit poster where she wore dreadlocks)

Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (dIske)

300 And I'm willing to start with million dollar plus fines and/or prison sentences for knowingly hiring an illegal.

Cuz that'd change hearts and minds real fucking rikki tik.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (ExV1e)

The laws are already on the books. It is already illegal to hire illegals... just no one is enforcing the law.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (mP0Kj)

301 FWIW, AI sez "No, Matt Walsh has not been fired and remains a prominent host and commentator at The Daily Wire."

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (Jr5Lq)

302 And what did his right accomplish? Running down Goldwater, sneering at Reagan who ended up doing more than WFB did by a million. He was controlled oppo.

Reagan allowed the Democrats to beta test their election fraud schemes and take over California. And Buckley "legitimized" Rush Limbaugh for the tea and crumpets crowd. Nobody's 100% good or bad.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (2ocoG)

303 There were a lot of actors and actresses in the 70s that defy rational explanation as to how they had a career.

And then there was Burnadette Peters. Still prettier than ... well ... everybody.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (IdfaO)

304 >>>Some "Republican" Senators Hate Trump Too Much

Typically, when people talk of other people's "unacceptable" views, they talk of other people holding such views, largely because people are incapable of looking at the world through the lens of other people's mindset. That is a rare skill, IMO.

So I read this as "Thune hates Trump"

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (dK+Kv)

305 Yes, I like him, too. But I don't know much about him."

I belive he's dead, Jim.

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (cGjQu)

306 Didn't know they fired Matt Walsh,

==

That's because he is still with Daily Wire.

Posted by: runner at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (GD0B3)

307 300
The laws are already on the books. It is already illegal to hire illegals... just no one is enforcing the law.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (mP0Kj)

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But if people realize that, then who will donate to congressmen's campaigns as they gesticulate at committee hearings?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (Zn6QU)

308 I grew up in Texas in the 70s and 80s. We learned about Juneteenth, but I never thought it was something to celebrate. Yay, we were last!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (2UnvF)

309 >>Bo Derek was the female version of Tommy Wiseau if acting is the qualifier (with the exception being that anyone with testosterone in any quantity had her swimsuit poster where she wore dreadlocks)

She was no Heather Thomas in a Hot Tub.

Posted by: garrett at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (An6iH)

310 Hey, let's make it a federal holiday! That'll keep em voting for us!
Posted by: man

"Hold my beer."
-- Zombie LBJ. ready to sign the VRA

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 03:57 PM (77rzZ)

311 Carver was an agronomist, had degrees in the science. Did a LOT of agricultural research. Also, scandal free life.

Posted by: tubal at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (Gqar8)

312 Addendum: And Thune is too cowardly to admit that it is him that hates Trumpses the mostest, precious.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (dK+Kv)

313
I'm starting to think 50% of the government expenditures are fraudulent.

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
·
4h
Meet Pervez Siddiqui, a Pakistani and the president of an adult day care in NYC. He was just arrested and charged for allegedly carrying out a $38 MILLION Medicaid scam.

Siddiqui allegedly faked sign-ups in order to receive kickbacks through Medicaid payments.

Siddiqui was reportedly prominent in Democrat circles, per NYP

7 other co-conspirators were also arrested.

The fraud never ends.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (kX27y)

314 294 Texas has celebrated Juneteenth for over 160
Years. It was officially recognized in 1980. It’s not some recent white liberal thing.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (bucPA)

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I lived there for 5 years and had never heard of it until we made it some stupid holiday.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (fgSb9)

315 her swimsuit poster where she wore dreadlocks"

That scene with Bolero....

Yum.

Bunkworthy, that is

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 03:59 PM (cGjQu)

316 Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (fgSb9)

Where in TX though? I hear it's slightly larger than Rhode Island.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 18, 2026 03:59 PM (3d9VR)

317
I lived there for 5 years and had never heard of it until we made it some stupid holiday.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (fgSb9)

There were commercials on TV every year in DFW for the festivals and parades that I remember since the 80's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:59 PM (2YhKe)

318 Matt Walsh still hates all anime.

Nyah.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2026 03:59 PM (4T3aT)

319 I don't think blacks ever celebrated Juneteeth. It's a made-up holiday that actually makes Texas slaves look like idiots. Only white leftists celebrate Juneteenth. It's like Kwanza.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

Incorrect. Texas blacks celebrated Juneteenth every year. They had festivals and parades in most big cities. Everywhere there is a MLK Jr. Blvd, they were celebrating.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 03:53 PM (2YhKe)
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Really? I never heard of it before, and I we have friends and family in Dallas. I woulda thunk I'd at least have heard of it in passing. I also dated a black girl who lived for a time in TX and while she knew what it was, she said it was never any big deal.

Certainly no black outside of TX that I have ever met ever celebrated it, or even knew what it was.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

320 Carver was an agronomist, had degrees in the science. Did a LOT of agricultural research. Also, scandal free life.
Posted by: tubal

According to his Wikipedia page, he was known during his life as something like "the black Leonardo."

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (77rzZ)

321
One difference you see consistently between the left and right is that if the left wants say $50B for something they'll come out and say anything less then $200B is an outrage and leads to kids dying in the streets.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2026 03:38 PM (sKqQm)

The thing that pisses me off about the GOPe is that they allow themselves to be bought so cheaply. "I'll pay you $5k for a vote on this $650B bill.", "Make it $4500. I don't want to price myself out of the market."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (y9nCu)

322 Where in TX though? I hear it's slightly larger than Rhode Island."

Marginally, yes.

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (cGjQu)

323 My senator wears a flannel shirt and drives a truck in his election ads. He’s a rock ribbed conservative just like me.
- Rube voters in red states

Posted by: Heroq at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (X+Nnd)

324 nood

Posted by: gp at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (Jr5Lq)

325 She was no Heather Thomas in a Hot Tub.

You kidden, I heard she was in the tub with her.

Posted by: Crumps Benjamin at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (Mx+TJ)

326 There were small celebrations in some Texas towns for a long time. But like everything else they grew smaller over the years, and some towns never celebrated. But it was officially recognized by the state. It also became a bigger deal now that the Feds give everyone a day off.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (bucPA)

327 Matt Walsh still hates all anime.

I am convinced many of his pop culture takes are just contrarian, to help build his image as a curmudgeon. He has recently began talking about the impact and importance of pop culture and how the nation has suffered as it changed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (UZCuZ)

328
Certainly no black outside of TX that I have ever met ever celebrated it, or even knew what it was.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 18, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

That is correct. NO one cared unless they were born and lived in Texas.

Anyone else celebrating it was a pandering idiot. It means NOTHING to anyone outside of Texas.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (2YhKe)

329 he was known during his life as something like "the black Leonardo."

DiCaprio?

Posted by: man at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (cGjQu)

330 During the opening ceremony of his presidential center in Chicago, former President Obama praised Mitt Romney and the late John McCain, commending their character. He stated: "Every president here today, as different as we are, has tried our best to uphold values that John McCain and Mitt Romney believed in no less than I did. It is our greatest inheritance.

Glory Be! McCain and Romney pulled it off, surviving with fortunes intact and praised by progressives!

Hell, they can all do it! In the end, the rinos are financial guys. They want to be, need to be to be worthy enough so as not to be tortured in a public restaurant, publicly mocked and criticized by former presidents and their surrogates, etc. And then if/when the time comes to leave Congress, they & theirs have warm and friendly roosting places.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (NFX2v)

331 If Bo Derek was wearing her dreads in a 'modern' US metropolis today there is a good chance some uptight Karen of a Sistah would scold her for the dreads.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (4T3aT)

332 I'm starting to think 50% of the government expenditures are fraudulent.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 03:58 PM (kX27y)

Imma open a bar with cold beer and hot chicks and call it an adult daycare.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 18, 2026 04:01 PM (dK+Kv)

333 311 Carver was an agronomist, had degrees in the science. Did a LOT of agricultural research. Also, scandal free life.
Posted by: tubal

Pretty easy after having been made a eunuch.

Posted by: Auspex at June 18, 2026 04:02 PM (Y8DZL)

334 Juneteenth? Any of you all grow up close to northern Indiana and had to hear about "Dyngus Day" every year?

Jeesh, those freaking Poles...

Posted by: Bulg at June 18, 2026 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

335 Brand spanking new thread up top

Posted by: 496 at June 18, 2026 04:02 PM (DiYkG)

336 Chris Buckley wrote a couple of good books.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 18, 2026 04:02 PM (wBaIH)

337 The laws are already on the books. It is already illegal to hire illegals... just no one is enforcing the law.

And killing and rioting and all the other shit. Downing someone in the street and going at their neck with a pocket knife is against the law.

Not arguing with your statement. But I am arguing with the slope headed Andy Griffith crowd that can't grasp that the rules are not being followed.

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 04:03 PM (IdfaO)

338 Afternoon all.
(Looks around)
Haven't been here in a while.
This seems to be a pretty subdued Pride month. Haven't seen any Pride flags here in the DMV. I did read that some baseball team had to cancel because the team refused to wear rainbow game shirts.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 18, 2026 04:04 PM (kJmSS)

339 336 Chris Buckley wrote a couple of good books.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 18, 2026 04:02 PM (wBaIH)

Thank You for Smoking was very good and very funny.

Posted by: beckster at June 18, 2026 04:04 PM (kX27y)

340 Juneteenth? Any of you all grow up close to northern Indiana and had to hear about "Dyngus Day" every year?

No. I grew up south of Indianapolis. All we heard about was "copperheads".

Posted by: Howdy at June 18, 2026 04:04 PM (IdfaO)

341
Speaking of Omar Shareef, Julie Christie had that ethereal beauty back in the day.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (fgSb9)

Heartbreakingly beautiful woman. But her most famous character, Lara, was a shameless round-heeled slut, in the film and especially the book.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 18, 2026 04:04 PM (y9nCu)

342 Excuse me Mr. Thune, but a real leader (I understand you don't know what that means) would rally the troops with a rousing,

"It doesn't matter how you feel about the President, 80% of the country wants us to pass this bill, so put aside your animus and get this done for the American people. and most importantly, if you can get this done, I will do a backdoor deal to get millions in each of your re-election coffers."

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 04:05 PM (fgSb9)

343 Sigh.
Did it again apparently. 😏

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 18, 2026 04:05 PM (kJmSS)

344 She'd be snatched bald with major security.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 18, 2026 04:05 PM (NFX2v)

345 342 Excuse me Mr. Thune, but a real leader (I understand you don't know what that means) would rally the troops with a rousing,

"It doesn't matter how you feel about the President, 80% of the country wants us to pass this bill, so put aside your animus and get this done for the American people. and most importantly, if you can get this done, I will do a backdoor deal to get millions in each of your re-election coffers."

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 18, 2026 04:05 PM (fgSb9)

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"Fuck you. No."
-Mitch, Tillis, Cassidy, Cornyn, and Ernst, all retiring

"Really, fuck you. No."
-Murkowski, Democrat

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 18, 2026 04:05 PM (Zn6QU)

346 Weigh it out when they've been around for ages.

Does it matter to them what Trump thinks, or what Obama, Clinton, Bush, etc. think? And while all things must pass, O and the Clintons have had some real staying power in government.

Barack Obama explicitly stated he was not done serving when he left office, emphasizing in his Farewell Address that he would remain involved as a citizen for the rest of his days. He also famously told his staff and supporters before departing, "I won't stop. In fact, I will be right there with you, as a citizen, for all my remaining days."

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 18, 2026 04:10 PM (NFX2v)

347 Barack Obama explicitly stated he was not done serving when he left office, emphasizing in his Farewell Address that he would remain involved as a citizen for the rest of his days. He also famously told his staff and supporters before departing, "I won't stop. In fact, I will be right there with you, as a citizen, for all my remaining days."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 18, 2026 04:10 PM (NFX2v)

Looks like that was a threat, he's destroying the Dems better than the GOP has done.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 18, 2026 04:13 PM (uhVAy)

348 It’s not some recent white liberal thing.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 18, 2026 03:55 PM (bucPA)

The LGBTSYNZC part is.

Posted by: Reforger at June 18, 2026 04:13 PM (wjnjX)

349 Made it home

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2026 04:16 PM (Ia/+0)

350
Barack Obama explicitly stated he was not done serving when he left office,
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 18, 2026 04:10 PM (NFX2v)

I'm reminded of that steaming pile of monkey crap Charlie Crist who whined during a press conference after switching parties "I just want to SERVE!". Sounded like a teenage boy trying to talk his girlfriend into taking in "just the tip".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 18, 2026 04:18 PM (y9nCu)

351 Bo Derek was the female version of Tommy Wiseau if acting is the qualifier (with the exception being that anyone with testosterone in any quantity had her swimsuit poster where she wore dreadlocks)
Posted by: Orson at June 18, 2026 03:56 PM (dIske)

Eh, Bo Derek was married to midlevel actor/director John Derek.

So, she was part of the in-crowd. Easy for her to get the part in "10" because she was a beautiful, sexy gal with a knockout body.

And that's all "10" required of her since she was a sex fantasy object for Dudley Moore's character.

She had maybe 20 lines in that movie.

Anyway, after that she failed more or less because-

-though she had great tits, they weren't attached to a great actress.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 18, 2026 04:27 PM (iJfKG)

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