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FISA Is A Catastrophic Failure, And Should Be Allowed To Die
Except...our government is fanatical about spying on us, and there is no way that a temporary pause in their ability to spy on Americans will survive. That pause is for purely political reasons, as the House simply doesn't like President Trump's nominee for Director of National Intelligence (DNI). Once that little pissing match is cleared up, they will go back to merrily supporting warrantless searches and surveillance of Americans.
Oh, they have their cute little legal subterfuges that protect them...we Americans are swept up in that surveillance by accident! Really! It's true! Our government claims, without a hint of irony or sarcasm, that when Americans are spied upon without a warrant, it is merely coincident to the surveillance of a foreign national, and they respect our God-given natural rights to safety from government intrusion. US intelligence community's foreign spying powers expire after lawmakers reject FISA extensionThe law enables the US government to surveil non-Americans abroad without first going before a judge to get a warrant. However, that surveillance often sweeps up communications of American citizens in the process. The controversial spy power was reformed in 2024, but some critics want additional changes.
This shit has been going on forever, and FISA was supposed to be the solution to the myriad domestic spying programs that our Constitution expressly forbids. Except that after FISA was passed in 1978, spying on Americans seems to have increased! Here is a small sample of the dozens of programs that our government used or uses to spy on us.
- COINTELPRO
- Operation CHAOS
- Project RESISTANCE
- Operation MERRIMAC
- MINARET
- SHAMROCK
- Post-1978
- CARNIVORE
- PRISM
- Section 215
- Total Information Awareness (TIA)
- Stellar Wind
- Hemisphere Project
- Section 702
- Main Core
FISA is so obviously a rubber stamp for fishing expeditions based on political or personal expediency that it's embarrassing that any legislator defends it. But most of them do, and it's only the dust-up with Bill Pulte as DNI that they even bothered to look up from the trough and actually do something. Most of the Bill Of Rights address these affronts to our freedom and liberty, yet our government cavalierly disregards those rights, claiming the always convenient, "National Security Imperative," or whatever phrase is in fashion to describe the destruction of our freedoms.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.-- Samuel Adams He said that in 1776, and it applies today. Government should serve us, not the other way around. And...government should also fear us as a free people. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees that, and today we see shocking examples of countries whose citizens have become subjects exactly because their governments no longer fear them. This is not a call to arms; this is simply a recognition that we must defend all of our rights, no matter how trivial-seeming or unlikely. Most of us will never be swept up in the surveillance of a foreigner, and most of us will never be surveilled coincident with an investigation. Except...we can never know that with certainty unless we fight back against the rapidly encroaching totalitarianism of our government. Yes, that sounds melodramatic...just like the wholesale arrest and detention of hundreds of peaceful demonstrators after January 6th, 2021 sounded like a conspiracy-theorist's fever dream.
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I'll fetch em
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)
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Make it applicable only to politicians, the judiciary and the MSM and it'll die overnight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 12:03 PM (jehhT)
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It isn't going to go away, and will get worse as the years go on
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:03 PM (Ia/+0)
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The tree of liberty, etc.
Posted by: Buck at June 14, 2026 12:04 PM (z6ONu)
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As with most laws, Martini Farmer
Posted by: MkY at June 14, 2026 12:04 PM (q6tQZ)
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But don't Worry, CBD. The Gov't will police itself to make sure it doesn't "violate" our rights...
/sarc (for those who don't get it's sarcasm)...
/sarc (for those who don't get it's sarcasm)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:05 PM (l3cgK)
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FWP.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 14, 2026 12:05 PM (lgmVC)
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The Deep State Bureaucracy has become a monster and killing it is probably never going to happen.
It might be shrinking now, but the Marxists get control it will grow again with a vengeance.
It might be shrinking now, but the Marxists get control it will grow again with a vengeance.
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:06 PM (Ia/+0)
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like the wholesale arrest and detention of hundreds of peaceful demonstrators after January 6th, 2021
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Newark Cops Ordered Not to Respond to Calls at Delaney Hall ICE Facility Despite Violence and Riots
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Well, they aren't violent extremists like the J6 lynching party!
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Newark Cops Ordered Not to Respond to Calls at Delaney Hall ICE Facility Despite Violence and Riots
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Well, they aren't violent extremists like the J6 lynching party!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:07 PM (ndZc7)
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Make it applicable only to politicians, the judiciary and the MSM and it'll die overnight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 12:03 PM (jehhT)
I'd add all current state and federal employees and appointees to the list. I'm on the fence for those who quit, are fired, or fail reelection.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 12:03 PM (jehhT)
I'd add all current state and federal employees and appointees to the list. I'm on the fence for those who quit, are fired, or fail reelection.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 12:08 PM (qx7Zg)
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These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop.
FISA was nothing more than an end run around the Constitution. The dot gov then figured out that they could ask other Five Eyes countries to spy on US citizens with the target none-the-wiser. It all has to stop.
FISA was nothing more than an end run around the Constitution. The dot gov then figured out that they could ask other Five Eyes countries to spy on US citizens with the target none-the-wiser. It all has to stop.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 12:08 PM (qtL2m)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 14, 2026 12:08 PM (lgmVC)
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Whenever I see FISA, I see FISTULA.
Yeah. Pretty much sums up the scumbags that work for the feds.
Yeah. Pretty much sums up the scumbags that work for the feds.
Posted by: Anal Fistula at June 14, 2026 12:09 PM (z20w/)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:10 PM (ndZc7)
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> These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop
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Surveillance systems like Flock LPR's. Based on prison surveillance systems to monitor prisoners. They're everywhere and need petabytes of storage.
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Surveillance systems like Flock LPR's. Based on prison surveillance systems to monitor prisoners. They're everywhere and need petabytes of storage.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 12:11 PM (jehhT)
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13 Whenever I see FISA, I see FISTULA.
Yeah. Pretty much sums up the scumbags that work for the feds.
Posted by: Anal Fistula at June 14, 2026 12:09 PM (z20w/)
I saw FISA FISTULA front for Sniffy Joe and the Paedos at the Kennedy Center in '21...
Yeah. Pretty much sums up the scumbags that work for the feds.
Posted by: Anal Fistula at June 14, 2026 12:09 PM (z20w/)
I saw FISA FISTULA front for Sniffy Joe and the Paedos at the Kennedy Center in '21...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:12 PM (l3cgK)
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So New Jersey no.longer wants to workwith the Federal government
That should work both ways.
That should work both ways.
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:13 PM (Ia/+0)
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FISA Is A Catastrophic Failure, And Should By Allowed To Die
—CBD
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I legit read that as FIFA and thought hellz yeah!
—CBD
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I legit read that as FIFA and thought hellz yeah!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2026 12:14 PM (kpS4V)
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They're more sophisticated than us.
New York City Descends Into Violent Chaos After Knicks’ Game 5 Comeback to Win the NBA Finals
New York City Descends Into Violent Chaos After Knicks’ Game 5 Comeback to Win the NBA Finals
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:14 PM (ndZc7)
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Thx CBD , spot on.
It's gotten worse since 9/11 after Bush created Homeland Security. As if the regular security apparatus wasn't enough , we needed more bureaucracy which watches us
It's gotten worse since 9/11 after Bush created Homeland Security. As if the regular security apparatus wasn't enough , we needed more bureaucracy which watches us
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 12:14 PM (ufO5q)
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As my spotty memory recalls, we have at least 17 agencies with Federal Investigative Authority (per H Clinton in 2nd debate v D Trump).
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 14, 2026 12:19 PM (Ofeq1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2026 12:20 PM (Cqx++)
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These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop
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But if you oppose a data center you are a tool of China.
These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop
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But if you oppose a data center you are a tool of China.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (Cqx++)
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Shawn Fleetwood: Leftist Freak Out Over Elon Musk’s Trillionaire Status Embodies Their Hatred for Success
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If that damn Musk wasn't a trillionaire, I could afford more toppings on my pizza!
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If that damn Musk wasn't a trillionaire, I could afford more toppings on my pizza!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (ndZc7)
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Also remember the Five Eyes scam - the intelligence agencies of the Five Eyes (US, Canada, Australia, UK, New Zealand), spy on each other's citizens to maintain deniability, upon request of the citizen's home country.
"Oh, we didn't put you under surveillance - it was the Australians who put you under surveillance."
"Oh, we didn't put you under surveillance - it was the Australians who put you under surveillance."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (aD4fx)
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20 Thx CBD , spot on.
It's gotten worse since 9/11 after Bush created Homeland Security. As if the regular security apparatus wasn't enough , we needed more bureaucracy which watches us
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 12:14 PM (ufO5q)
It's funny...all those Gov't agencies watching us unconstitutionally, but at the same time try their damnedest trying to keep us from seeing the shit they're pulling. It seems they've forgotten that 1st through 10th Amendments don't protect the Gov't, they inhibit it.
Gov't doesn't have rights, they have powers.
It's gotten worse since 9/11 after Bush created Homeland Security. As if the regular security apparatus wasn't enough , we needed more bureaucracy which watches us
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 12:14 PM (ufO5q)
It's funny...all those Gov't agencies watching us unconstitutionally, but at the same time try their damnedest trying to keep us from seeing the shit they're pulling. It seems they've forgotten that 1st through 10th Amendments don't protect the Gov't, they inhibit it.
Gov't doesn't have rights, they have powers.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (l3cgK)
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> As my spotty memory recalls, we have at least 17 agencies with Federal Investigative Authority (per H Clinton in 2nd debate v D Trump).
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I think every federal agency/bureau/department has an investigative "authority" to look into their specific areas of purview. This is limited, is not as comprehensive as FIA that permits more expansive, and intrusive investigations into public life.
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I think every federal agency/bureau/department has an investigative "authority" to look into their specific areas of purview. This is limited, is not as comprehensive as FIA that permits more expansive, and intrusive investigations into public life.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (jehhT)
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25 Also remember the Five Eyes scam - the intelligence agencies of the Five Eyes (US, Canada, Australia, UK, New Zealand), spy on each other's citizens to maintain deniability, upon request of the citizen's home country.
"Oh, we didn't put you under surveillance - it was the Australians who put you under surveillance."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (aD4fx)
If you hire an assassin to kill somebody, you didn't pull the trigger, but you sure as hell paid for the murder.
"Oh, we didn't put you under surveillance - it was the Australians who put you under surveillance."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (aD4fx)
If you hire an assassin to kill somebody, you didn't pull the trigger, but you sure as hell paid for the murder.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:24 PM (l3cgK)
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The fascist UK government just arrested Tommy Robinson again on "terrorism" charges.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:25 PM (aD4fx)
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I was happy to see that FIFA did not, in fact, ban tailgating at WC venues. If there's one way to get Eurolads and Eurolassies on board with things American, it's tailgating.
I was happy to see that FIFA did not, in fact, ban tailgating at WC venues. If there's one way to get Eurolads and Eurolassies on board with things American, it's tailgating.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:25 PM (O0L8i)
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Dennis Kucinich was right about the PATRIOT Act and FISA.
It pains me to say that a lib like him was correct, but those are the facts.
This is why I'll never completely dismiss every liberal criticism of Republicans, because once in a thousand times they are spot on.
It pains me to say that a lib like him was correct, but those are the facts.
This is why I'll never completely dismiss every liberal criticism of Republicans, because once in a thousand times they are spot on.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2026 12:25 PM (DAyZ3)
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24 Shawn Fleetwood: Leftist Freak Out Over Elon Musk’s Trillionaire Status Embodies Their Hatred for Success
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If that damn Musk wasn't a trillionaire, I could afford more toppings on my pizza!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (ndZc7)
Funny that their bitching happens on X...and may use Starlink, while they drive their Teslas...
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If that damn Musk wasn't a trillionaire, I could afford more toppings on my pizza!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (ndZc7)
Funny that their bitching happens on X...and may use Starlink, while they drive their Teslas...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:26 PM (l3cgK)
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These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop
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But if you oppose a data center you are a tool of China.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (Cqx++)
I buy my tools of China from Harbor Freight...
These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop
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But if you oppose a data center you are a tool of China.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2026 12:21 PM (Cqx++)
I buy my tools of China from Harbor Freight...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (l3cgK)
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I'd laughed at worries of government data collectIon of.citizens. How would those incompetent DEI and nepo hires ever procees all that data?
What do you think AI is for?
What do you think AI is for?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (wBaIH)
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About Envy as a sin...
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)
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That damn trillionaire Musk!
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (ndZc7)
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29 The fascist UK government just arrested Tommy Robinson again on "terrorism" charges.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:25 PM (aD4fx)
Causing terror in the minds of the libbie ministers, no doubt.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 14, 2026 12:25 PM (aD4fx)
Causing terror in the minds of the libbie ministers, no doubt.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:28 PM (l3cgK)
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They talk of my drinking, but never my thirst -- Tree of Liberty
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 14, 2026 12:28 PM (wBaIH)
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35 About Envy as a sin...
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)
Envy is a sin, but Jealousy is not...
"For I the Lord Your God am a jealous God..."
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)
Envy is a sin, but Jealousy is not...
"For I the Lord Your God am a jealous God..."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)
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Envy is a stupid, ridiculous vice. I would rather Musk be a trillionaire through scientific and engineering vision than there be a million millionaires through government coercion and graft.
Envy is a stupid, ridiculous vice. I would rather Musk be a trillionaire through scientific and engineering vision than there be a million millionaires through government coercion and graft.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:30 PM (O0L8i)
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Envy is a stupid, ridiculous vice. I would rather Musk be a trillionaire through scientific and engineering vision than there be a million millionaires through government coercion and graft.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:30 PM (O0L8i)
Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Envy is a stupid, ridiculous vice. I would rather Musk be a trillionaire through scientific and engineering vision than there be a million millionaires through government coercion and graft.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:30 PM (O0L8i)
Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (O0L8i)
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Most of the Bill Of Rights address these affronts to our freedom and liberty, yet our government cavalierly disregards those rights, claiming the always convenient, "National Security Imperative," or whatever phrase is in fashion to describe the destruction of our freedoms.
Also "officer safety" for more everyday and routine violations of our rights, as well the horrific displays like Uvalde.
Also "officer safety" for more everyday and routine violations of our rights, as well the horrific displays like Uvalde.
Posted by: Serve and protect? Uphold the Constitution? Huh? at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (TbWk/)
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Agree completely CBD. The press as always is pathetic. I heard a report on the radio yesterday where the newsreader basically said (breathlessly of course) we’re all gonna die if FISA isn’t re-upped because it’s the only thing between us and devastating terror attacks. Balderdash
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (26GAh)
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Envy is resentment at what another has.
Jealousy is resentment at another's desire for what you have.
Envy is resentment at what another has.
Jealousy is resentment at another's desire for what you have.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:34 PM (O0L8i)
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That damn trillionaire Musk!
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (ndZc7)
His "incitement" was allowing the video of the Sudanese barbarian slicing the Irish guy's eyes out and trying to cut his head off to be posted uncensored on X - in other words allowing the truth to be known.
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (ndZc7)
His "incitement" was allowing the video of the Sudanese barbarian slicing the Irish guy's eyes out and trying to cut his head off to be posted uncensored on X - in other words allowing the truth to be known.
Posted by: In a time of universal deceit, etc etc at June 14, 2026 12:36 PM (TbWk/)
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Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (O0L8i)
They're like a force multiplier for corrupt shitbag politicians.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (O0L8i)
They're like a force multiplier for corrupt shitbag politicians.
Posted by: Swarms of new officer eating our substance at June 14, 2026 12:37 PM (TbWk/)
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46 That damn trillionaire Musk!
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (ndZc7)
His "incitement" was allowing the video of the Sudanese barbarian slicing the Irish guy's eyes out and trying to cut his head off to be posted uncensored on X - in other words allowing the truth to be known.
Posted by: In a time of universal deceit, etc etc at June 14, 2026 12:36 PM (TbWk/)
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
German State Media Accuses Elon Musk of Inciting Belfast Rioters to “Hunt” Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:27 PM (ndZc7)
His "incitement" was allowing the video of the Sudanese barbarian slicing the Irish guy's eyes out and trying to cut his head off to be posted uncensored on X - in other words allowing the truth to be known.
Posted by: In a time of universal deceit, etc etc at June 14, 2026 12:36 PM (TbWk/)
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
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47 Are there a million politicians in the US?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (O0L8i)
They're like a force multiplier for corrupt shitbag politicians.
Posted by: Swarms of new officer eating our substance at June 14, 2026 12:37 PM (TbWk/)
It's the multiplier effect in economics...corrupt politicians pass legislation that fills the coffers of political allies and friends, who then donate that money back to the politicians. The only ones getting the shaft on this deal are the taxpayers...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)
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Politicians and NGO and non-profit hangers-on sucking at the tax teat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:33 PM (O0L8i)
They're like a force multiplier for corrupt shitbag politicians.
Posted by: Swarms of new officer eating our substance at June 14, 2026 12:37 PM (TbWk/)
It's the multiplier effect in economics...corrupt politicians pass legislation that fills the coffers of political allies and friends, who then donate that money back to the politicians. The only ones getting the shaft on this deal are the taxpayers...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:39 PM (l3cgK)
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
It would have worked except for those meddling kids - many Scooby Doo episodes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
It would have worked except for those meddling kids - many Scooby Doo episodes.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 12:39 PM (qx7Zg)
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50 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
It would have worked except for those meddling kids - many Scooby Doo episodes.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 12:39 PM (qx7Zg)
It's possible the dog was the smartest one...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
It would have worked except for those meddling kids - many Scooby Doo episodes.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 12:39 PM (qx7Zg)
It's possible the dog was the smartest one...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:40 PM (l3cgK)
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Looks like it’s time to launch the National Guard on Newark again. Good times.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 14, 2026 12:40 PM (1D2Ie)
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Another point about FISA is that although 702 has expired the government says it has several more months it can use that authority.
Square that circle.
Square that circle.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 12:41 PM (qtL2m)
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53 Another point about FISA is that although 702 has expired the government says it has several more months it can use that authority.
Square that circle.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 12:41 PM (qtL2m)
"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."--Darth Vader
Square that circle.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 12:41 PM (qtL2m)
"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."--Darth Vader
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:42 PM (l3cgK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (Cqx++)
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Under the Katz v US in 1967, you are entitled to a reasonable expectation of privacy. That was actually an advance over the older trespass theory in Olmstead (first wiretapping case) where physical invasion of property was involved.
In Katz, the government bugged a phone booth where Katz the bookie placed his bets, dealt with customers, etc. and they would turn on the mikes in the phone booth whenever he was in there and turn off when he left.
Search was thrown out because Katz had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the phone booth. Later, in the 1978 Smith v. Maryland case, you had phone records of who you called and how long you talked to them no longer needing a warrant under the third party doctrine.
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In Katz, the government bugged a phone booth where Katz the bookie placed his bets, dealt with customers, etc. and they would turn on the mikes in the phone booth whenever he was in there and turn off when he left.
Search was thrown out because Katz had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the phone booth. Later, in the 1978 Smith v. Maryland case, you had phone records of who you called and how long you talked to them no longer needing a warrant under the third party doctrine.
/continued
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (E4rtv)
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They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (n7rxJ)
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that their bitching happens on X...and may use Starlink, while they drive their Teslas...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
They just slap an antiMusk bumper sticker on those, and then they are allowed to park downtown without getting keyed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
They just slap an antiMusk bumper sticker on those, and then they are allowed to park downtown without getting keyed.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Your F.B.I. at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (0sNs1)
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Yes, that sounds melodramatic...
No CBD, not melodramatic at all. Just common sense and,.I would argue, a duty of citizenship.
No CBD, not melodramatic at all. Just common sense and,.I would argue, a duty of citizenship.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
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45
Envy is resentment at what another has.
Jealousy is resentment at another's desire for what you have.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:34 PM (O0L8i)
I'm not convinced those are always wrong or include something destructive. I think it's more a matter of degrees. I can jealously guard something against theft, corruption or destruction, which I would regard to be entirely appropriate in a number of situations - like your kids' innocence or your wife's fidelity. I think one can be envious without a necessarily secondary evil motive, such as I could be envious of someone's killer vacation or new sportscar but be happy for them in their achievement. So I'm not convinced those are automatically "bad" things but rather depend on the context.
Envy is resentment at what another has.
Jealousy is resentment at another's desire for what you have.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 12:34 PM (O0L8i)
I'm not convinced those are always wrong or include something destructive. I think it's more a matter of degrees. I can jealously guard something against theft, corruption or destruction, which I would regard to be entirely appropriate in a number of situations - like your kids' innocence or your wife's fidelity. I think one can be envious without a necessarily secondary evil motive, such as I could be envious of someone's killer vacation or new sportscar but be happy for them in their achievement. So I'm not convinced those are automatically "bad" things but rather depend on the context.
Posted by: My $0.02 at June 14, 2026 12:45 PM (TbWk/)
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57
They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (n7rxJ)
Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (n7rxJ)
Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:45 PM (l3cgK)
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59 The Government would *never* abuse any power. *Never.*
We're Top. Men.
Posted by: Your F.B.I. at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (0sNs1)
And they treat us like we're their bottoms to sodomize.
We're Top. Men.
Posted by: Your F.B.I. at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (0sNs1)
And they treat us like we're their bottoms to sodomize.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:46 PM (l3cgK)
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Just common sense and,.I would argue, a duty of citizenship.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 12:47 PM (PLxDd)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (qgHp7)
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Just common sense and,.I would argue, a duty of citizenship.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 12:47 PM (PLxDd)
Some people talk about the broken windows approach to policing, I think is that as the broken windows approach to asserting civil rights.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 12:47 PM (PLxDd)
Some people talk about the broken windows approach to policing, I think is that as the broken windows approach to asserting civil rights.
Posted by: Protect the smaller things and the larger things follow at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (TbWk/)
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Even though I’ve always supported Trump, his judgment is not infallible. Trump supports renewing this and I have to say that is very bad judgment on his part.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (cx1bp)
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By now, the old Katz theory is riddled with holes as in third party doctrine and modern computers make it trivial to compile huge dossiers on people without warrants (Find me the person and I will show you the crime). Cameras follow someone throughout their trip, all their banking and financial records are available, their purchases if via card, what they read (book purchases), watch (streaming records), listen to, (podcast records), what web sites they go to (ISP records), what you text and to whom, who you call, all of it automated. Even voice recognition hardware inside your home if you have it turned on.
All of these 'third party' searches automated and requiring little if no police effort or budget. So you get a lot more of them due to trivial cost when in the old days, it would take squads of police to actually physically follow you and collect the data directly by visiting store keepers, etc.
Add in FISA with its ridiculous hops rule and degrees of separation and suddenly it means Big Brother and those who hold its leash being able to Stasi with methods they could only dream of.
Scotus has been dozing on the job since Katz in 1967 as tech destroyed its reasoning.
All of these 'third party' searches automated and requiring little if no police effort or budget. So you get a lot more of them due to trivial cost when in the old days, it would take squads of police to actually physically follow you and collect the data directly by visiting store keepers, etc.
Add in FISA with its ridiculous hops rule and degrees of separation and suddenly it means Big Brother and those who hold its leash being able to Stasi with methods they could only dream of.
Scotus has been dozing on the job since Katz in 1967 as tech destroyed its reasoning.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)
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64 Just common sense and,.I would argue, a duty of citizenship.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 12:47 PM (PLxDd)
Yeah, there are lots of dirty cops that go on power trips and abuse the citizenry because they are protected by other cops, their supervisory chain, and the city leaders.
If you want your blood to boil, just look up on EweToob "The Civil Rights Lawyer" from West Virginia...and watch some of his videos. Bad cops, if caught, are mostly allowed to leave to another jurisdiction to start their shit all over again...
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 12:44 PM (2WIwB)
That's why those "auditors" who bust cops' balls over small infringements on our rights are doing important work.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 12:47 PM (PLxDd)
Yeah, there are lots of dirty cops that go on power trips and abuse the citizenry because they are protected by other cops, their supervisory chain, and the city leaders.
If you want your blood to boil, just look up on EweToob "The Civil Rights Lawyer" from West Virginia...and watch some of his videos. Bad cops, if caught, are mostly allowed to leave to another jurisdiction to start their shit all over again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (l3cgK)
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FISA? I thought that was soccer.
Posted by: Weasel at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (1S3fY)
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Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Agree. The judges and the system in place are in place to protect the Deep State.
Agree. The judges and the system in place are in place to protect the Deep State.
Posted by: Chief Judge James E. "Jeb" Boasberg, closeted homosexual at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (z20w/)
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Project RESISTANCE
********
...was primarily used by the Dept. of Ohmland Security...,
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (qgHp7)
Always amping us up with puns.
********
...was primarily used by the Dept. of Ohmland Security...,
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (qgHp7)
Always amping us up with puns.
Posted by: Watt are we doing? Seriously... at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:51 PM (qgHp7)
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67 Even though I’ve always supported Trump, his judgment is not infallible. Trump supports renewing this and I have to say that is very bad judgment on his part.
Posted by: Tom Servo
More I think we are in a shooting war with Iran and its minions although it could be a Brier Rabbit throw me in the briar patch sort of move.
If Democrats like Warner with guilty pasts think Trump will use FISA against them, they might in fact kill it. All the shitheads coordinating the 'Resist movement for the last 10-11 years are in those massive databases too along with the comms.
Posted by: Tom Servo
More I think we are in a shooting war with Iran and its minions although it could be a Brier Rabbit throw me in the briar patch sort of move.
If Democrats like Warner with guilty pasts think Trump will use FISA against them, they might in fact kill it. All the shitheads coordinating the 'Resist movement for the last 10-11 years are in those massive databases too along with the comms.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:52 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:52 PM (qgHp7)
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12 Koinkadinkies:
https://tinyurl.com/mrn5c95t
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 14, 2026 12:08 PM (lgmVC)
Not a coincidence, but mainly because none of those platforms have stealth tech built in, so they’re about the 3 easiest platforms to shoot down for an air defense system.
12 Koinkadinkies:
https://tinyurl.com/mrn5c95t
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 14, 2026 12:08 PM (lgmVC)
Not a coincidence, but mainly because none of those platforms have stealth tech built in, so they’re about the 3 easiest platforms to shoot down for an air defense system.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2026 12:52 PM (cx1bp)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (qgHp7)
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65 Project RESISTANCE
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...was primarily used by the Dept. of Ohmland Security...,
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (qgHp7)
That's why there was no reluctance measured.
********
...was primarily used by the Dept. of Ohmland Security...,
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (qgHp7)
That's why there was no reluctance measured.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (l3cgK)
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If you want your blood to boil, just look up on EweToob "The Civil Rights Lawyer" from West Virginia...and watch some of his videos. Bad cops, if caught, are mostly allowed to leave to another jurisdiction to start their shit all over again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:54 PM (qgHp7)
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Snowden knew what’s up.
Posted by: Heroq at June 14, 2026 12:54 PM (xg+/D)
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Scotus has been dozing on the job since Katz in 1967 as tech destroyed its reasoning.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)
The law has not caught up with technology in all kinds of ways. This of course is a glaring example but even things as seemingly trivial as the requirement to have your registration and proof of insurance on you. Cops have all that shit at their fingertips on their in-car computer. They know you if you do or don't have insurance before they even pull you over, and they know who the car is registered to by the license tag or the VIN. The only reasons for these requirements to remain as they are, with a few outliers, is simply a matter of revenue generation.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)
The law has not caught up with technology in all kinds of ways. This of course is a glaring example but even things as seemingly trivial as the requirement to have your registration and proof of insurance on you. Cops have all that shit at their fingertips on their in-car computer. They know you if you do or don't have insurance before they even pull you over, and they know who the car is registered to by the license tag or the VIN. The only reasons for these requirements to remain as they are, with a few outliers, is simply a matter of revenue generation.
Posted by: Carbon paper laws in a digital world at June 14, 2026 12:55 PM (TbWk/)
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77 Total Information Awareness (TIA)
**********
The TIA project was a stroke of genius...
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (qgHp7)
Its genius, however, was only transient.
**********
The TIA project was a stroke of genius...
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (qgHp7)
Its genius, however, was only transient.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2026 12:56 PM (DAyZ3)
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Even though I’ve always supported Trump, his judgment is not infallible. Trump supports renewing this and I have to say that is very bad judgment on his part.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Only time will tell. Trump is certainly fallible but there is no one I'd trust more or rather have in the Oval Office
Posted by: Tom Servo
Only time will tell. Trump is certainly fallible but there is no one I'd trust more or rather have in the Oval Office
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 12:57 PM (ndZc7)
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Total Information Awareness (TIA)
**********
The TIA project was a stroke of genius...
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (qgHp7)
A very small stroke of genius, at best.
**********
The TIA project was a stroke of genius...
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (qgHp7)
A very small stroke of genius, at best.
Posted by: Hemorrhaging talent at June 14, 2026 12:57 PM (TbWk/)
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62 57
They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (n7rxJ)
Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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I think it is because Trump doesn't want open civil war during his presidency. And that may well be why he is so focused on resolving foreign affairs and fixing election security on his watch.
That will give a future GOP president the means to finish uprooting the Deep State.
Intrigues for power and money will always be in existence in any government and the more powerful the government internationally, the intrigues get a foreign tinge as foreign powers try to steer the superpower by influence and adopting internal factions to support.
They almost could have sold me on the FISA court if the judges had risen up in a mighty outrage when it was revealed they'd been totally punked by the Obama admin. But apparently they hit the snooze button.
However, the DOJ does have the power to investigate the FISA court, doesn't it? So, why hasn't that happened?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:43 PM (n7rxJ)
Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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I think it is because Trump doesn't want open civil war during his presidency. And that may well be why he is so focused on resolving foreign affairs and fixing election security on his watch.
That will give a future GOP president the means to finish uprooting the Deep State.
Intrigues for power and money will always be in existence in any government and the more powerful the government internationally, the intrigues get a foreign tinge as foreign powers try to steer the superpower by influence and adopting internal factions to support.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:57 PM (E4rtv)
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If you want your blood to boil, just look up on EweToob "The Civil Rights Lawyer" from West Virginia...and watch some of his videos. Bad cops, if caught, are mostly allowed to leave to another jurisdiction to start their shit all over again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (l3cgK)
Lackluster also has videos of shitty cops.
And yeah, they are always protected by their superiors until their bullshit goes public, and there is a hue and cry.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 12:50 PM (l3cgK)
Lackluster also has videos of shitty cops.
And yeah, they are always protected by their superiors until their bullshit goes public, and there is a hue and cry.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 14, 2026 12:58 PM (ufFY8)
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Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: whig
===============
Priests, surgeons, nurses.
Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: whig
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Priests, surgeons, nurses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (n7rxJ)
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PRISM
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Covered a wide spectrum of domestic activities, mostly within the Rainbow Coalition.
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Covered a wide spectrum of domestic activities, mostly within the Rainbow Coalition.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (qgHp7)
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Okay. I'm done!
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (qgHp7)
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If you want your blood to boil, just look up on EweToob "The Civil Rights Lawyer" from West Virginia...and watch some of his videos. Bad cops, if caught, are mostly allowed to leave to another jurisdiction to start their shit all over again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)
There are far too many "gypsy cops" out there who ought to have their certificates revoked. And by too many I mean a single one. It's like the "dance of the lemons" for schoolteachers except they have guns and arrest powers.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Yep, like bad school teachers, principals/superintendants, and other government employees fired for misconduct.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)
There are far too many "gypsy cops" out there who ought to have their certificates revoked. And by too many I mean a single one. It's like the "dance of the lemons" for schoolteachers except they have guns and arrest powers.
Posted by: They need to be out of the profession permanently at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (TbWk/)
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Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Better still. What a job.
Some of the judges weren't punked; it seemed they were either a part to the deception or turned a blind eye to it (which is essentially the same thing).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
=================
Better still. What a job.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 01:00 PM (n7rxJ)
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The law has not caught up with technology in all kinds of ways.
Posted by: Carbon paper laws
Alito floated a new idea, the mosaic theory of privacy where the totality of the government's actions seeking computerized information triggers the requirement for a search warrant at some point.
Rest of the justices hit the snooze button.
FISA itself though was a legislative cover for spying on communications and actions which as they cross borders, there is NO expectation of privacy (same as physically crossing the border or customs). That is old settled law, where FISA makes it worse is the collection of data up to three hops and not requiring a warrant to unmask domestic counterparts of intercepts between other domestic comms using the three hop rule. That is what was abused in the Trump cases.
Posted by: Carbon paper laws
Alito floated a new idea, the mosaic theory of privacy where the totality of the government's actions seeking computerized information triggers the requirement for a search warrant at some point.
Rest of the justices hit the snooze button.
FISA itself though was a legislative cover for spying on communications and actions which as they cross borders, there is NO expectation of privacy (same as physically crossing the border or customs). That is old settled law, where FISA makes it worse is the collection of data up to three hops and not requiring a warrant to unmask domestic counterparts of intercepts between other domestic comms using the three hop rule. That is what was abused in the Trump cases.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:02 PM (E4rtv)
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Boasberg was a FISA head judge. That is all you need to know
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (ufO5q)
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94 Boasberg was a FISA head judge. That is all you need to know
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (ufO5q)
He shoulda stayed in the pork business...oh, that's Boar's Head. Nevermind.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (ufO5q)
He shoulda stayed in the pork business...oh, that's Boar's Head. Nevermind.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (l3cgK)
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Didn't Obama tweak FISA a little with each signing until it was a facist's wet dream?
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (F9nWj)
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There are far too many "gypsy cops" out there who ought to have their certificates revoked. And by too many I mean a single one. It's like the "dance of the lemons" for schoolteachers except they have guns and arrest powers.
Posted by: They
I think a revamp might be requiring liability insurance for individual cops be required and the removal of qualified immunity from all government officials except life or death immediate situations.
And individual cops that insurance agencies refuse to cover means unemployment. The public should not have to pay for the misdeeds of criminals in uniforms, they should have the pay themselves with their jobs and money. Qualified immunity too was stretched far beyond street law enforcement to bureaucrats denying rights to students for example.
Rehnquist court created the doctrine and Scotus needs to severely prune it back to its original intent-- a split second mistake involving life and death for cops (like shooting a creep with a fake gun).
In UK and elsewhere, there is no exclusionary rule but rather that the cops involved in illegal searches can be sued individually and even criminally charged for trespass.
Posted by: They
I think a revamp might be requiring liability insurance for individual cops be required and the removal of qualified immunity from all government officials except life or death immediate situations.
And individual cops that insurance agencies refuse to cover means unemployment. The public should not have to pay for the misdeeds of criminals in uniforms, they should have the pay themselves with their jobs and money. Qualified immunity too was stretched far beyond street law enforcement to bureaucrats denying rights to students for example.
Rehnquist court created the doctrine and Scotus needs to severely prune it back to its original intent-- a split second mistake involving life and death for cops (like shooting a creep with a fake gun).
In UK and elsewhere, there is no exclusionary rule but rather that the cops involved in illegal searches can be sued individually and even criminally charged for trespass.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (E4rtv)
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Okay, one more
SHAMROCK
*************
Targeted the Women's Lib movement in the '70s
Agency motto: Erin Go Braless!
SHAMROCK
*************
Targeted the Women's Lib movement in the '70s
Agency motto: Erin Go Braless!
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:06 PM (qgHp7)
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If all of these agencies are spying on me then they know I need some liquor, steaks, hookers and a loaf of bread. Stop by anytime.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 14, 2026 01:09 PM (SRceu)
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Okay. I'm done!
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (qgHp7)
Be patient. The FIB are reading this and will be cranking out some new ops just to see what you do with those names.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 12:59 PM (qgHp7)
Be patient. The FIB are reading this and will be cranking out some new ops just to see what you do with those names.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2026 01:11 PM (2WIwB)
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Priests, surgeons, nurses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
The latter two you can do certainly and should. Malpractice is simply one way to do it along with other means. But, if you recall, doctors and nurses also were getting fired for not buying the massive Covid and vaxx demands that were in fact false.
Priests,etc. are a matter of First Amendment Free Exercise clause. Look up the doctrine of ministerial exception to employment laws.
Criminal acts can be charged but removal from being a priest, etc. by the state smacks of authoritarianism during the Commie days and before that royal interference with freedom of religious beliefs. So Scotus has provided that the state's role is barred from making choices of who is or is not a priest. No such bar on criminal complaints as they treat religious officials the same as a non religious criminal.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
The latter two you can do certainly and should. Malpractice is simply one way to do it along with other means. But, if you recall, doctors and nurses also were getting fired for not buying the massive Covid and vaxx demands that were in fact false.
Priests,etc. are a matter of First Amendment Free Exercise clause. Look up the doctrine of ministerial exception to employment laws.
Criminal acts can be charged but removal from being a priest, etc. by the state smacks of authoritarianism during the Commie days and before that royal interference with freedom of religious beliefs. So Scotus has provided that the state's role is barred from making choices of who is or is not a priest. No such bar on criminal complaints as they treat religious officials the same as a non religious criminal.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)
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Contrary argument, the authorization of FISA is also the authorization to review NSA and other nat sec files for evidence of things like vote fraud; without FISA authorization the data will still be gathered, it just won't be available for any prosecution.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (rbvCR)
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One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:13 PM (qgHp7)
105
Be patient. The FIB are reading this and will be cranking out some new ops just to see what you do with those names.
Posted by: Diogenes
I can just see the files--Mr. Dildo proposed killing our crown jewel FISA and then the rest of the crew at AOS showed extreme derision, dislike, and disregard for our duty to save Democracy. They should all be under Double Secret Probation.
Posted by: Diogenes
I can just see the files--Mr. Dildo proposed killing our crown jewel FISA and then the rest of the crew at AOS showed extreme derision, dislike, and disregard for our duty to save Democracy. They should all be under Double Secret Probation.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:13 PM (E4rtv)
106
104 Most of these programs were fascist except one.
Project RESISTANCE was feudal.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:13 PM (qgHp7)
They were assimilated.
Project RESISTANCE was feudal.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:13 PM (qgHp7)
They were assimilated.
Posted by: Borg collective at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (TbWk/)
107
I had a friend who used FOIA to get his FBI file a few years ago. We were bagging on him that it was only one disc.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (F9nWj)
108
Some people talk about the broken windows approach to policing, I think is that as the broken windows approach to asserting civil rights.
Posted by: Protect the smaller things and the larger things follow at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (TbWk/)
Excellent point.
Posted by: Protect the smaller things and the larger things follow at June 14, 2026 12:49 PM (TbWk/)
Excellent point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 01:15 PM (PLxDd)
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Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)
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I wasn't necessarily talking about criminal acts (although I was). I mean professions and professional organizations that move their offenders around instead of stopping them on the spot.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)
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I wasn't necessarily talking about criminal acts (although I was). I mean professions and professional organizations that move their offenders around instead of stopping them on the spot.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (n7rxJ)
110
I had a friend who used FOIA to get his FBI file a few years ago. We were bagging on him that it was only one disc.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (F9nWj)
8" floppy disc?
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (F9nWj)
8" floppy disc?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (qx7Zg)
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They should all be under Double Secret Probation.
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Or better yet, given a long PRISM sentence.
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Or better yet, given a long PRISM sentence.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:17 PM (qgHp7)
112
I had a friend who used FOIA to get his FBI file a few years ago. We were bagging on him that it was only one disc.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (F9nWj)
8" floppy disc?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (qx7Zg)
3.5"
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:14 PM (F9nWj)
8" floppy disc?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (qx7Zg)
3.5"
Posted by: Grower not a shower at June 14, 2026 01:18 PM (TbWk/)
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103 One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Three hop rule for comms but comms with third parties of any sort like texts are scooped up for perusal without a warrant, merely a subpoena.
The three hop rule acts like degrees of separation in the Kevin Bacon game. You talked with someone that did make a foreign call to a shady person, and thus everyone within the three degrees of separation can be tracked. Ends up pretty enormous. 7 degrees of separation, IIRC, pretty much is the entire living population of the world. Almost all of your acquaintances, work mates, family, friends, etc. are swept up in a three degree of separation.
"That prediction is being borne out today. A paper just submitted to arXiv titled Four Degrees of Separation, says that a study of the entire network of 721 million Facebook users with 69 billion relationship links shows an average distance of 4.74 degrees of separation."
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Three hop rule for comms but comms with third parties of any sort like texts are scooped up for perusal without a warrant, merely a subpoena.
The three hop rule acts like degrees of separation in the Kevin Bacon game. You talked with someone that did make a foreign call to a shady person, and thus everyone within the three degrees of separation can be tracked. Ends up pretty enormous. 7 degrees of separation, IIRC, pretty much is the entire living population of the world. Almost all of your acquaintances, work mates, family, friends, etc. are swept up in a three degree of separation.
"That prediction is being borne out today. A paper just submitted to arXiv titled Four Degrees of Separation, says that a study of the entire network of 721 million Facebook users with 69 billion relationship links shows an average distance of 4.74 degrees of separation."
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)
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Geez, I'm approaching troll status. I'd better go water my wife's blackberry bush.
See y'all around the block!
See y'all around the block!
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:19 PM (qgHp7)
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Or better yet, given a long PRISM sentence.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:17 PM (qgHp7)
Your refractory period seems to be about 30 seconds!
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2026 01:17 PM (qgHp7)
Your refractory period seems to be about 30 seconds!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2026 01:19 PM (PLxDd)
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ttrGW)
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8" floppy disc?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (qx7Zg)
Heh. DVR... CD? Whatever.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:16 PM (qx7Zg)
Heh. DVR... CD? Whatever.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (F9nWj)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (qx7Zg)
119
We need to Bukele the judiciary.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ZVgZ4)
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"Even voice recognition hardware inside your home if you have it turned on."
Only when it's "on". Right. I generally have a tv near me running news or whatever. I put the phone next to the tv, but still within reach. I don't know if they can filter it out, otherwise they must have thousands of hours of tv audio in that file to dilute whatever I was saying.
Secondly, we can't write a framework worth having if the players are that corrupt. High ranking FBI agents lying on warrants with no punishment does nor bode well for any system.
Only when it's "on". Right. I generally have a tv near me running news or whatever. I put the phone next to the tv, but still within reach. I don't know if they can filter it out, otherwise they must have thousands of hours of tv audio in that file to dilute whatever I was saying.
Secondly, we can't write a framework worth having if the players are that corrupt. High ranking FBI agents lying on warrants with no punishment does nor bode well for any system.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 14, 2026 01:21 PM (w/O5Q)
121
This is not a call to arms;
Why not?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ttrGW)
It's a call to legs - to provide an ass kicking?
Why not?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ttrGW)
It's a call to legs - to provide an ass kicking?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:21 PM (qx7Zg)
122
I wasn't necessarily talking about criminal acts (although I was). I mean professions and professional organizations that move their offenders around instead of stopping them on the spot.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Bill of Rights applies to internal discipline for ministers, etc. State has no role in selecting or removing such. In reality, lawsuits against religious bodies often has more effect nowadays. Disastrous attempts to hide sex molesters way back in the 60-70's have resulted in massive lawsuits that probably accomplished more than the state would have done.
And the truth is the greater threat to most kids now are public and private school teachers.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Bill of Rights applies to internal discipline for ministers, etc. State has no role in selecting or removing such. In reality, lawsuits against religious bodies often has more effect nowadays. Disastrous attempts to hide sex molesters way back in the 60-70's have resulted in massive lawsuits that probably accomplished more than the state would have done.
And the truth is the greater threat to most kids now are public and private school teachers.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:22 PM (E4rtv)
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Linus,
I think we should have an agreement that every member of the Horde use "balderdash" in a post today.
I think we should have an agreement that every member of the Horde use "balderdash" in a post today.
Posted by: Wenda at June 14, 2026 01:22 PM (UIfeN)
124
116 This is not a call to arms;
Why not?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ttrGW)
If you have to ask you wouldn't understand anyway!!!!
*sobs*
Why not?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2026 01:20 PM (ttrGW)
If you have to ask you wouldn't understand anyway!!!!
*sobs*
Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 14, 2026 01:22 PM (TbWk/)
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One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
Ever take a call from "Joe" at "Citibank" about suspicious activity on your credit card? You just made the list, buddy...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
Ever take a call from "Joe" at "Citibank" about suspicious activity on your credit card? You just made the list, buddy...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 14, 2026 01:22 PM (nbLIj)
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>>One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
I'm on the phone with a furiner every week. Used to be pretty much a daily thing for many years. And with the amount of foreign traveling I did I'm sure I'm a lot of lists.
That's why I'm building dossiers on all of you, gotta have something to trade. I'm too pretty to go to prison.
I'm on the phone with a furiner every week. Used to be pretty much a daily thing for many years. And with the amount of foreign traveling I did I'm sure I'm a lot of lists.
That's why I'm building dossiers on all of you, gotta have something to trade. I'm too pretty to go to prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:22 PM (viF8m)
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That prediction is being borne out today. A paper just submitted to arXiv titled Four Degrees of Separation, says that a study of the entire network of 721 million Facebook users with 69 billion relationship links shows an average distance of 4.74 degrees of separation."
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)
Thanks Whig… that does make sense
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)
Thanks Whig… that does make sense
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:23 PM (Jehr5)
128
It's a call to legs - to provide an ass kicking?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:21 PM (qx7Zg)
Hey fuck you buddy.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:21 PM (qx7Zg)
Hey fuck you buddy.
Posted by: One-legged man at June 14, 2026 01:23 PM (TbWk/)
129
A not entirely non-germane observation. Today is Flag Day, and the anniversary of the founding of the U.S. Army, June 14, 1775.
My father was born on June 14, and always had a flag flying, that day and others. For years I would hoist his 48 star flag on this day as a memorial to him. It has become too frayed to do that any more, which saddens me. Time to retire it to a display box.
My father was born on June 14, and always had a flag flying, that day and others. For years I would hoist his 48 star flag on this day as a memorial to him. It has become too frayed to do that any more, which saddens me. Time to retire it to a display box.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L)
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Only when it's "on". Right. I generally have a tv near me running news or whatever. I put the phone next to the tv, but still within reach. I don't know if they can filter it out, otherwise they must have thousands of hours of tv audio in that file to dilute whatever I was saying.
Secondly, we can't write a framework worth having if the players are that corrupt. High ranking FBI agents lying on warrants with no punishment does nor bode well for any system.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer
About the only way you can ensure that the device is not listening reporting is to put it in total isolation--aka Faraday cage with no network access allowed ever. Feds have the tech to turn mikes on and off even when you think they are 'disabled' remotely. And I think plenty of people have had deja vu with their smartphones of suddenly getting targeted ads after they discussed something with someone or did an internet search.
Secondly, we can't write a framework worth having if the players are that corrupt. High ranking FBI agents lying on warrants with no punishment does nor bode well for any system.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer
About the only way you can ensure that the device is not listening reporting is to put it in total isolation--aka Faraday cage with no network access allowed ever. Feds have the tech to turn mikes on and off even when you think they are 'disabled' remotely. And I think plenty of people have had deja vu with their smartphones of suddenly getting targeted ads after they discussed something with someone or did an internet search.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:24 PM (E4rtv)
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The government comes up with reasons for monitoring the public, for any reason. The judiciary agrees and the MSM spins it.
But the reality is that the government is really only interested in monitoring certain elements of the public and only passes those cases on to the judiciary, who happily comply.
The media spins it.
Rince. Repeat. Renew.
But the reality is that the government is really only interested in monitoring certain elements of the public and only passes those cases on to the judiciary, who happily comply.
The media spins it.
Rince. Repeat. Renew.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (jehhT)
132
I think Wenda’s proposal is utter balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
133
The “JackStraw Dossier” just doesn’t flow off the lips like “Steele Dossier” does…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (Jehr5)
134
I think Wenda’s proposal is utter balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Balderdash and fiddlesticks!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Balderdash and fiddlesticks!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:27 PM (qx7Zg)
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132 I think Wenda’s proposal is utter balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Horsefeathers, bunkum, and tommyrot!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Horsefeathers, bunkum, and tommyrot!
Posted by: Humbug! at June 14, 2026 01:28 PM (TbWk/)
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Thanks Whig… that does make sense
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think a more recent search indicated all Fakebook users are within 3.5 degrees of separation now. And that is where FISA needs to be cut back. Originally in 1978, it was designed to catch spy rings where you had one outside liaison to the KGB or whatever but that liaison then ran the internal spy ring composed of native sources. Was designed for wiretapping more than internet age and wiretapping was a pita requiring a lot more agency effort than today.
I think there are a few AOS commenters that visited the ATT secure facilities in key comm hubs like NYC that post here.
Telecom engineers, software coders, and spooks.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
I think a more recent search indicated all Fakebook users are within 3.5 degrees of separation now. And that is where FISA needs to be cut back. Originally in 1978, it was designed to catch spy rings where you had one outside liaison to the KGB or whatever but that liaison then ran the internal spy ring composed of native sources. Was designed for wiretapping more than internet age and wiretapping was a pita requiring a lot more agency effort than today.
I think there are a few AOS commenters that visited the ATT secure facilities in key comm hubs like NYC that post here.
Telecom engineers, software coders, and spooks.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:28 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: torabora at June 14, 2026 01:28 PM (TOTlR)
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>>The “JackStraw Dossier” just doesn’t flow off the lips like “Steele Dossier” does…
Your file just moved up the list.
Your file just moved up the list.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (viF8m)
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I think Wenda’s proposal is utter balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Horsefeathers, bunkum, and tommyrot!
Posted by: Humbug! at June 14, 2026 01:28 PM (TbWk/)
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Flapdoodle!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (ZVgZ4)
Horsefeathers, bunkum, and tommyrot!
Posted by: Humbug! at June 14, 2026 01:28 PM (TbWk/)
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Flapdoodle!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (amcLV)
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Those "data centers are required for all your free on-line storage and the "cloud" which is virtually default settings on new systems.
NSA, AIs, and FISA will have unfettered access to all and make multiple copies for its own use.
NSA, AIs, and FISA will have unfettered access to all and make multiple copies for its own use.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (/lPRQ)
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I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
They can collect three jumps from the target. You may not have talked to someone from another nation but one of the people you know may have talked to someone who had. The agencies were pushing for 6 jumps.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
They can collect three jumps from the target. You may not have talked to someone from another nation but one of the people you know may have talked to someone who had. The agencies were pushing for 6 jumps.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (qtL2m)
142
A while back a friend of mine from church pointed out to a fellow parishioner that his cell phone was listening in on his conversations. He tried to look something up online to counter our argument, but then he complained that what we were saying was interfering with his attempt to search: as in his phone was already giving him search prompts based on what we had said!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (ZVgZ4)
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But the reality is that the government is really only interested in monitoring certain elements of the public and only passes those cases on to the judiciary, who happily comply.
The media spins it.
Rince. Repeat. Renew.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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I think a fair number of them are using inside information on companies to become fabulously wealthy as well. Information is worth its weight in gold for market matters.
The French intel agency was as much involved in corporate espionage on trade secrets, market movement, etc. as it was on spies even back in the 70's.
The media spins it.
Rince. Repeat. Renew.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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I think a fair number of them are using inside information on companies to become fabulously wealthy as well. Information is worth its weight in gold for market matters.
The French intel agency was as much involved in corporate espionage on trade secrets, market movement, etc. as it was on spies even back in the 70's.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:30 PM (E4rtv)
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I saw Balderdash open for Bullshit at the Cow Pallace in 92.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:30 PM (F9nWj)
145
The “JackStraw Dossier” just doesn’t flow off the lips like “Steele Dossier” does…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (Jehr5
****
It worked, didn't it?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:25 PM (Jehr5
****
It worked, didn't it?
Posted by: Zombie Whorehouse Harry Reid at June 14, 2026 01:30 PM (TOTlR)
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About the only way you can ensure that the device is not listening reporting is to put it in total isolation--aka Faraday cage with no network access allowed ever. Feds have the tech to turn mikes on and off even when you think they are 'disabled' remotely. And I think plenty of people have had deja vu with their smartphones of suddenly getting targeted ads after they discussed something with someone or did an internet search.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:24 PM (E4rtv)
Yeah, this is my understanding pretty much. No viable way to prevent collection if you want to use the technology. Only alternative I can think of is to choke the collection with bad data.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:24 PM (E4rtv)
Yeah, this is my understanding pretty much. No viable way to prevent collection if you want to use the technology. Only alternative I can think of is to choke the collection with bad data.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 14, 2026 01:30 PM (w/O5Q)
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I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
They can collect three jumps from the target. You may not have talked to someone from another nation but one of the people you know may have talked to someone who had. The agencies were pushing for 6 jumps.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (qtL2m)
I think the new rule should be you can collect three jumps from the target but one of them has to be Kevin Bacon.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
They can collect three jumps from the target. You may not have talked to someone from another nation but one of the people you know may have talked to someone who had. The agencies were pushing for 6 jumps.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 14, 2026 01:29 PM (qtL2m)
I think the new rule should be you can collect three jumps from the target but one of them has to be Kevin Bacon.
Posted by: Better than what we've got now! at June 14, 2026 01:31 PM (TbWk/)
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These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop.
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People are willfully giving them everything when they put it on "the cloud".
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People are willfully giving them everything when they put it on "the cloud".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:31 PM (/lPRQ)
149
Curaçao just scored on DE.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:32 PM (OoFl2)
150
Horsefeathers, bunkum, and tommyrot!
Posted by: Humbug!
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Ah! A historical note:
In 1820, Rep. Felix Walker, who was from Buncombe County, N.C., gave a long, rambling speech in the U.S. House. Not much was remembered about it other than it had little relevance to that day’s business.
Walker, originally from West Virginia, became known for using the expression “speaking for Buncombe.” This quickly got modified and was used to label any kind of nonsense or questionable statement. It was called “bunkum” and then later, “bunk.”
Buncombe county is my home.
Posted by: Humbug!
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Ah! A historical note:
In 1820, Rep. Felix Walker, who was from Buncombe County, N.C., gave a long, rambling speech in the U.S. House. Not much was remembered about it other than it had little relevance to that day’s business.
Walker, originally from West Virginia, became known for using the expression “speaking for Buncombe.” This quickly got modified and was used to label any kind of nonsense or questionable statement. It was called “bunkum” and then later, “bunk.”
Buncombe county is my home.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
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Your file just moved up the list.
Posted by: JackStraw
"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!
[Chorus]
He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed"
Posted by: JackStraw
"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!
[Chorus]
He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed"
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv)
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Walker, originally from West Virginia, became known for using the expression “speaking for Buncombe.” This quickly got modified and was used to label any kind of nonsense or questionable statement. It was called “bunkum” and then later, “bunk.”
Buncombe county is my home.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
That explains a lot.
Buncombe county is my home.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
That explains a lot.
Posted by: Just kidding! OUCH!!!! at June 14, 2026 01:33 PM (TbWk/)
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I’m laughing out loud JackStraw… I beg forgiveness I do not want a dossier….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:33 PM (nkHgN)
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There are key areas across the country, the globe actually, where communications networks meet and handoff traffic to each other just so we can share cat videos and yak at each other.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:34 PM (viF8m)
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That explains a lot.
Posted by: Just kidding!
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My friends remind me of it regularly.
That explains a lot.
Posted by: Just kidding!
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My friends remind me of it regularly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 01:35 PM (XeU6L)
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People are willfully giving them everything when they put it on "the cloud".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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With Windows 11, it is unclear that most of the users actually know what Copilot AI and the requirement to backup their computers on the cloud actually mean.
Haven't kept up with Apple's practices as I don't use a mac anymore.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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With Windows 11, it is unclear that most of the users actually know what Copilot AI and the requirement to backup their computers on the cloud actually mean.
Haven't kept up with Apple's practices as I don't use a mac anymore.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:35 PM (E4rtv)
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I’m laughing out loud JackStraw… I beg forgiveness I do not want a dossier….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:33 PM (nkHgN)
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Least of all one where urine-soaked bedding occurs.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:33 PM (nkHgN)
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Least of all one where urine-soaked bedding occurs.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2026 01:35 PM (amcLV)
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I have the sadz…. I just asked grok (Elon’s very own AI) if I can get fabulously wealthy investing in SpaceX stock and the answer was a resounding no….. sadz
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:36 PM (Jehr5)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZc7)
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There are key areas across the country, the globe actually, where communications networks meet and handoff traffic to each other just so we can share cat videos and yak at each other.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:34 PM (viF8m)
It's safe to assume that everything you've ever said or done on or with any form of electronic communication is stored somewhere. That's what that massive NSA server farm in New Mexico or wherever it was is for, and that's that the "AI" data centers will continue to do. If you ever stick your head up such that you become noticed by the powers that be, they will go there and ferret out anything that could be used against you for blackmail, oppo research or criminal prosecution.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:34 PM (viF8m)
It's safe to assume that everything you've ever said or done on or with any form of electronic communication is stored somewhere. That's what that massive NSA server farm in New Mexico or wherever it was is for, and that's that the "AI" data centers will continue to do. If you ever stick your head up such that you become noticed by the powers that be, they will go there and ferret out anything that could be used against you for blackmail, oppo research or criminal prosecution.
Posted by: The panopticon and panmemnicon are real at June 14, 2026 01:38 PM (TbWk/)
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These data centers aren't just for AI. Third parties are collecting huge amounts of intel (I use that term intentionally) on everybody. They then sell it to the various government agencies. That needs to stop.
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You are aware that the agencies themselves are selling names and information lists to anyone who calls and pays the fee?
Oregon, quite humorously in light of their recent "we can't provide provide voter rolls to the FedGov because ILLEGAL" already sells those rolls to anyone who can pay the fee. The fee used to be $29.
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You are aware that the agencies themselves are selling names and information lists to anyone who calls and pays the fee?
Oregon, quite humorously in light of their recent "we can't provide provide voter rolls to the FedGov because ILLEGAL" already sells those rolls to anyone who can pay the fee. The fee used to be $29.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:38 PM (rbvCR)
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FISA Is A Catastrophic Failure...
Every time I see the phrase:
(Noun) is a (Adjective) Failure!
I can't help but roll my eyes and instantly disbelieve the that whatever (Noun) is actually a (Adjective) Failure.
This phrase has been misused and abused so often, mostly by the left, that it's lost all meaning and rhetorical punch for me.
F'rinstance this morning at Insty I read some a-hole claiming "Elon Musk is a failure, who failed upward."
Really? Elon Musk is a failure. If he a failure, I'll take some of what he's failing at.
TL/DR "Failure" is a failure.
FISA Is A Catastrophic Failure...
Every time I see the phrase:
(Noun) is a (Adjective) Failure!
I can't help but roll my eyes and instantly disbelieve the that whatever (Noun) is actually a (Adjective) Failure.
This phrase has been misused and abused so often, mostly by the left, that it's lost all meaning and rhetorical punch for me.
F'rinstance this morning at Insty I read some a-hole claiming "Elon Musk is a failure, who failed upward."
Really? Elon Musk is a failure. If he a failure, I'll take some of what he's failing at.
TL/DR "Failure" is a failure.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:38 PM (iJfKG)
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154 There are key areas across the country, the globe actually, where communications networks meet and handoff traffic to each other just so we can share cat videos and yak at each other.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw
The ironic thing is that the person that tries to preserve privacy by actions (which you can to some degree) suddenly becomes an anomaly in the data where the agency suddenly concentrates its attention on the outlier to determine why.
Act like a spook and be treated as one by the system. Being a rural hermit like Crazy Ted Kaczynski or moving abroad is about the only way to reduce the omnipresent surveillance in the West.
Even there in the US, you face open fields doctrine and drones above nowadays. Plus the mails have the front and back of every bit of mail you send imaged.
And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw
The ironic thing is that the person that tries to preserve privacy by actions (which you can to some degree) suddenly becomes an anomaly in the data where the agency suddenly concentrates its attention on the outlier to determine why.
Act like a spook and be treated as one by the system. Being a rural hermit like Crazy Ted Kaczynski or moving abroad is about the only way to reduce the omnipresent surveillance in the West.
Even there in the US, you face open fields doctrine and drones above nowadays. Plus the mails have the front and back of every bit of mail you send imaged.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:39 PM (E4rtv)
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I have the sadz…. I just asked grok (Elon’s very own AI) if I can get fabulously wealthy investing in SpaceX stock and the answer was a resounding no….. sadz
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Key word "fabulously".
That is something you are born with.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Key word "fabulously".
That is something you are born with.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (/lPRQ)
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The two best things happening on X right now are leftists losing their mud over Trump's 250 bash and foreigners posting about their love for the US after visiting.
We've got our issues but still a pretty great country.
We've got our issues but still a pretty great country.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (viF8m)
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So I guess none of you have ever just sat there and spilled your guts to your fibby listeners. I try to break it up for them, a little music, a little light conversation about work, some updates on the grandkids etc... I don't want to be a boring assignment.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (F9nWj)
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We control the horizontal. We control the vertical.
Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (wvc0i)
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This very site gets posts from around the world, and you, Mr. USA Citizen, read them. So of course Bob from the NSA is reading them and your posts too!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (ZVgZ4)
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So I guess none of you have ever just sat there and spilled your guts to your fibby listeners. I try to break it up for them, a little music, a little light conversation about work, some updates on the grandkids etc... I don't want to be a boring assignment.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (F9nWj)
I try to keep myself in a condition of continual bewilderment and confusion, so if I am ever hauled in for questioning I will be of no help to my interrogators.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (F9nWj)
I try to keep myself in a condition of continual bewilderment and confusion, so if I am ever hauled in for questioning I will be of no help to my interrogators.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
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I try to keep myself in a condition of continual bewilderment and confusion, so if I am ever hauled in for questioning I will be of no help to my interrogators.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
Senility is the last defense of the scoundrel.
I try to keep myself in a condition of continual bewilderment and confusion, so if I am ever hauled in for questioning I will be of no help to my interrogators.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
Senility is the last defense of the scoundrel.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:43 PM (iJfKG)
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This very site gets posts from around the world, and you, Mr. USA Citizen, read them. So of course Bob from the NSA is reading them and your posts too!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (ZVgZ4)
True. We have Canadians, Israelis, an expat in Japan, and a handful of Jerseyites.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (ZVgZ4)
True. We have Canadians, Israelis, an expat in Japan, and a handful of Jerseyites.
Posted by: It's a regular UN in this joint at June 14, 2026 01:43 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (ndZc7)
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Tornado warning for my part of Canada. I'm still newish to the smart phone thing. Tons of alerts. Never got those before. Stopped now.
There's one area that always gets them. Never here so I'm feeling lucky.
There's one area that always gets them. Never here so I'm feeling lucky.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (Sco7b)
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Plus the mails have the front and back of every bit of mail you send imaged.
At least the postman and his wife are not steaming your letters open to read them as in “Under Milkwood” by Dylan Thomas. Or are they?
At least the postman and his wife are not steaming your letters open to read them as in “Under Milkwood” by Dylan Thomas. Or are they?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (ZVgZ4)
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I try to keep myself in a condition of continual bewilderment and confusion, so if I am ever hauled in for questioning I will be of no help to my interrogators.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
That comes naturally for me.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
That comes naturally for me.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (F9nWj)
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It's safe to assume that everything you've ever said or done on or with any form of electronic communication is stored somewhere. That's what that massive NSA server farm in New Mexico or wherever it was is for, and that's that the "AI" data centers will continue to do. If you ever stick your head up such that you become noticed by the powers that be, they will go there and ferret out anything that could be used against you for blackmail, oppo research or criminal prosecution.
Posted by: The panopticon and panmemnicon
The really funny thing though is like the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle--as AI use at home grows, more and more of the intercepts will be AI slop fed into AI surveillance systems to get a perfect infinite regress. Ratty data goes in, ratty conclusions come out.
As Harry Harrison notes, become a Stainless Steel Rat today.
Posted by: The panopticon and panmemnicon
The really funny thing though is like the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle--as AI use at home grows, more and more of the intercepts will be AI slop fed into AI surveillance systems to get a perfect infinite regress. Ratty data goes in, ratty conclusions come out.
As Harry Harrison notes, become a Stainless Steel Rat today.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (E4rtv)
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Marine tornado warning.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:45 PM (Sco7b)
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The two best things happening on X right now are leftists losing their mud over Trump's 250 bash and foreigners posting about their love for the US after visiting.
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As to the latter, I hope these foreigners realize they've been lied to for time immemorial about Americans by their state-run media. And that they start wondering about what else they've been lied to.
The two best things happening on X right now are leftists losing their mud over Trump's 250 bash and foreigners posting about their love for the US after visiting.
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As to the latter, I hope these foreigners realize they've been lied to for time immemorial about Americans by their state-run media. And that they start wondering about what else they've been lied to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (O0L8i)
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>>The ironic thing is that the person that tries to preserve privacy by actions (which you can to some degree) suddenly becomes an anomaly in the data where the agency suddenly concentrates its attention on the outlier to determine why.
algore didn't invent the internet but the federal government pretty much did. And the CIA was one of the first investors into an idea a couple nerds from Stanford had about statistics and analysis that posed as a search engine, google.
They never left.
algore didn't invent the internet but the federal government pretty much did. And the CIA was one of the first investors into an idea a couple nerds from Stanford had about statistics and analysis that posed as a search engine, google.
They never left.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (viF8m)
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For the Great Lakes.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (Sco7b)
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This very site gets posts from around the world, and you, Mr. USA Citizen, read them. So of course Bob from the NSA is reading them and your posts too!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
That AoS is open to the general public makes it accessible.
The fact that Biden's Dog once posted here and you might have read it (engaged in the same social media) makes you "one hop" and now they have unfettered access to everything...
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
That AoS is open to the general public makes it accessible.
The fact that Biden's Dog once posted here and you might have read it (engaged in the same social media) makes you "one hop" and now they have unfettered access to everything...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (/lPRQ)
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Marine tornado warning.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:45 PM (Sco7b)
Is that like a Sharknado only with Marines?
Marine tornado warning.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:45 PM (Sco7b)
Is that like a Sharknado only with Marines?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)
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Senility is the last defense of the scoundrel.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:43 PM (iJfKG)
Works for Joe Biden!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:43 PM (iJfKG)
Works for Joe Biden!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (ZVgZ4)
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And that was quickly over....
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:47 PM (Sco7b)
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I see a former NFL player Aldon Smith died at the tender age of 36. He ruined his career with many brushes with the law… drugs, reckless driving etc. but 36 is way too young. Raw natural athleticism the guy should’ve lived to 90…. Too bad I hate to see those kinds of stories
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:47 PM (TqDYN)
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Big Brother is always watching.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2026 01:47 PM (G3T/K)
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And right around the corner of all of them is an NSA listening post. Been going on for a very long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:34 PM (viF8m)
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Everyone knows where the big one is in lower Manhattan. Couple of doors but no windows.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:34 PM (viF8m)
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Everyone knows where the big one is in lower Manhattan. Couple of doors but no windows.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (3ImbR)
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>>As to the latter, I hope these foreigners realize they've been lied to for time immemorial about Americans by their state-run media. And that they start wondering about what else they've been lied to.
Judging by the videos, photos and comments being posted I believe it's dawning on some of them.
Judging by the videos, photos and comments being posted I believe it's dawning on some of them.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (viF8m)
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It took America 250 years to finally make somebody a trillionaire and he's an immigrant. You would think this would be a point of celebration.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (F9nWj)
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Marine tornado warning.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:45 PM (Sco7b)
Is that like a Sharknado only with Marines?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)
HIDE YO KIDS, HIDE YO WIFE, HIDE YO CRAYONS!!!!
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:45 PM (Sco7b)
Is that like a Sharknado only with Marines?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)
HIDE YO KIDS, HIDE YO WIFE, HIDE YO CRAYONS!!!!
Posted by: Oorah at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (TbWk/)
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Workers Throw Thrill-Seeking Woman Off Bridge in Brazil But Forget to Attach the Rope
- Gateway Pundit.
It's worth giving him traffic to watch a couple of guys toss a woman off a bridge.
- Gateway Pundit.
It's worth giving him traffic to watch a couple of guys toss a woman off a bridge.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Sam Adams at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (X+xvk)
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rbvCR)
103 One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
Have you ever talked with service representatives with Indian (dot) accents? The you've talked to someone in a foreign country.
103 One thing I’ve always wondered about FISA… you have to be talking to a foreigner. Well I think that’s be very rare. I’ve NEVER been on the phone with a foreigner or a foreign line. I bet that’s true of 99% of people. So how do they get to hoover up nearly everything then? The math doesn’t work
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:12 PM (ALKK0)
Have you ever talked with service representatives with Indian (dot) accents? The you've talked to someone in a foreign country.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 14, 2026 01:49 PM (g8Ew8)
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Is that like a Sharknado only with Marines?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)
In which case I'd feel safe. And concerned for them.
There's 'Catnado' on Tubi. Never seen it. Maybe today.
It's hard to be incredibly concerned about anything when everything is a dire warning that we're going to die. Every weather alert, every sneeze, every cow fart
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)
In which case I'd feel safe. And concerned for them.
There's 'Catnado' on Tubi. Never seen it. Maybe today.
It's hard to be incredibly concerned about anything when everything is a dire warning that we're going to die. Every weather alert, every sneeze, every cow fart
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Sco7b)
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The really funny thing though is like the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle--as AI use at home grows, more and more of the intercepts will be AI slop fed into AI surveillance systems to get a perfect infinite regress. Ratty data goes in, ratty conclusions come out.
As Harry Harrison notes, become a Stainless Steel Rat today.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (E4rtv)
I saw a story the other day here in Florida. A guy was arrested for something like trying to lure a minor to kidnap or abuse… no eyewitnesses but simply AI said the guy on the video (from the store) is that guy. They arrest him… he was never within 2 hours of that location. He successfully sued the police department. I’m glad he did… to me that is one scary story
As Harry Harrison notes, become a Stainless Steel Rat today.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:44 PM (E4rtv)
I saw a story the other day here in Florida. A guy was arrested for something like trying to lure a minor to kidnap or abuse… no eyewitnesses but simply AI said the guy on the video (from the store) is that guy. They arrest him… he was never within 2 hours of that location. He successfully sued the police department. I’m glad he did… to me that is one scary story
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (TqDYN)
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The fact that Biden's Dog once posted here and you might have read it (engaged in the same social media) makes you "one hop" and now they have unfettered access to everything...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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I've never trusted that guy. I'm pretty sure he's full of malarkey.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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I've never trusted that guy. I'm pretty sure he's full of malarkey.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Lo97M)
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166 So I guess none of you have ever just sat there and spilled your guts to your fibby listeners. I try to break it up for them, a little music, a little light conversation about work, some updates on the grandkids etc... I don't want to be a boring assignment.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (F9nWj)
I am their comic relief. And probably who they get assigned to as a disciplinary measure.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:40 PM (F9nWj)
I am their comic relief. And probably who they get assigned to as a disciplinary measure.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Wmg4n)
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>>Everyone knows where the big one is in lower Manhattan. Couple of doors but no windows.
111 8th Avenue
111 8th Avenue
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (viF8m)
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Nice if warm here, for now
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:52 PM (O0L8i)
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Piper, if you need some fashion content, you can always use this meme.
https://tinyurl.com/4nphk8n2+
https://tinyurl.com/4nphk8n2+
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:53 PM (qx7Zg)
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201 Piper, if you need some fashion content, you can always use this meme.
https://tinyurl.com/4nphk8n2+
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:53
Ha! Funny. And true!
https://tinyurl.com/4nphk8n2+
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:53
Ha! Funny. And true!
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
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I just learned that today is the 251st anniversary of the founding of the US Army, as well as the 249th Flag Day.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (qx7Zg)
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We need a new car. And Musk is a trillionaire. When is he going to buy me one?
We need a new car. And Musk is a trillionaire. When is he going to buy me one?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (O0L8i)
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Have we gotten any photos from the inside of the Obama library so we can post them on the book thread? The splendor must be breathtaking.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
- From the previous thread
Other than a replica of the Oval Office it is all incredibly fugly.
Check it the Chitago papers offering photo tours.
I heard someone once describe that style of decor. He somehow predicted the Obamas by decades. Pontiac.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
- From the previous thread
Other than a replica of the Oval Office it is all incredibly fugly.
Check it the Chitago papers offering photo tours.
I heard someone once describe that style of decor. He somehow predicted the Obamas by decades. Pontiac.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (/lPRQ)
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It’s hot as hades. I think I am going to watch soccer from the pool.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
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Other than a replica of the Oval Office it is all incredibly fugly.
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It will be hailed as incredibly elegant. Just like Big Mike was called The Most Beautiful Woman in the World.
Other than a replica of the Oval Office it is all incredibly fugly.
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It will be hailed as incredibly elegant. Just like Big Mike was called The Most Beautiful Woman in the World.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:58 PM (O0L8i)
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I've never trusted that guy. I'm pretty sure he's full of malarkey.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Lo97M)
Nah, he’s full of balderdash!
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Lo97M)
Nah, he’s full of balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:58 PM (ZVgZ4)
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I saw a story the other day here in Florida. A guy was arrested for something like trying to lure a minor to kidnap or abuse… no eyewitnesses but simply AI said the guy on the video (from the store) is that guy. They arrest him… he was never within 2 hours of that location. He successfully sued the police department. I’m glad he did… to me that is one scary story
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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You'll see more of it. Another guy was identified by AI states away for committing armed robbery except AI recognition was wrong. Another massive lawsuit. And by removing more and more people from teh chain of collection and instead relegating it to algorithms that no one really understands, you will get more and more slop of computers talking to other computers and making 2+2=5 calculations.
The very computer systems as they try to concentrate more and more information so that the higher ups can try to rule society in the end are going to crash and fall, hopefully only affecting us regular folks in a minor way.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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You'll see more of it. Another guy was identified by AI states away for committing armed robbery except AI recognition was wrong. Another massive lawsuit. And by removing more and more people from teh chain of collection and instead relegating it to algorithms that no one really understands, you will get more and more slop of computers talking to other computers and making 2+2=5 calculations.
The very computer systems as they try to concentrate more and more information so that the higher ups can try to rule society in the end are going to crash and fall, hopefully only affecting us regular folks in a minor way.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:58 PM (E4rtv)
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I've never trusted that guy. I'm pretty sure he's full of malarkey.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Lo97M)
Nah, he’s full of balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:58 PM (ZVgZ4)
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Just a bunch of bushwa.
I've never trusted that guy. I'm pretty sure he's full of malarkey.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (Lo97M)
Nah, he’s full of balderdash!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 01:58 PM (ZVgZ4)
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Just a bunch of bushwa.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (O0L8i)
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It is going to be in the 90's here today, so I watered the gardens at dawn. I may do it again tomorrow morning since it will be hotter tomorrow.
I may go sit under a tree in the shade for the rest of the day.
I may go sit under a tree in the shade for the rest of the day.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (rbvCR)
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It’s hot as hades. I think I am going to watch soccer from the pool.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
Isn’t the heat punishment enough? Why you wanna pile soccer on top of that???
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
Isn’t the heat punishment enough? Why you wanna pile soccer on top of that???
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (5E66+)
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203 I just learned that today is the 251st anniversary of the founding of the US Army, as well as the 249th Flag Day.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Yep, US Army is the senior service in the US and predates Independence.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Yep, US Army is the senior service in the US and predates Independence.
Posted by: whig at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (E4rtv)
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At NYT: "The World’s Leading Deepfake Expert No Longer Trusts His Own Eyes"
Well then, I no longer trust The World's Deepfake Expert. No way I can tell it's really him.
Well then, I no longer trust The World's Deepfake Expert. No way I can tell it's really him.
Posted by: gp at June 14, 2026 02:00 PM (Jr5Lq)
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Just a bunch of bushwa.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (O0L8i)
Codswallop!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (O0L8i)
Codswallop!
Posted by: Tosh and dribble! at June 14, 2026 02:00 PM (TbWk/)
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To think that the world’s first trillionaire is an African-American! Something to remember for February!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 02:00 PM (ZVgZ4)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 02:00 PM (XeU6L)
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I think I am going to watch soccer from the pool.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
You know the rules.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2026 01:56 PM (Wmg4n)
You know the rules.
Posted by: Photographic evidence required at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (TbWk/)
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I see a former NFL player Aldon Smith died at the tender age of 36. He ruined his career with many brushes with the law… drugs, reckless driving etc. but 36 is way too young. Raw natural athleticism the guy should’ve lived to 90…. Too bad I hate to see those kinds of stories
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:47 PM (TqDYN)
Me too.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 01:47 PM (TqDYN)
Me too.
Posted by: Zombie Lawrence Phillips at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (z20w/)
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Check it the Chitago papers offering photo tours.
I heard someone once describe that style of decor. He somehow predicted the Obamas by decades. Pontiac.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Pontiac. Wasn't that the secret service codename for Jesse Jackson?
So rayciss.
I heard someone once describe that style of decor. He somehow predicted the Obamas by decades. Pontiac.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Pontiac. Wasn't that the secret service codename for Jesse Jackson?
So rayciss.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (Lo97M)
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Probably been said already but wasn't Boasberg on the FISA court and wasn't he aware that the lawyer Clinesmith lied about the Russia connection that whatshisname had so as to allow the first 'wiretaps' into the Trump campaign? In fact the CIA said the guy was working with them, not the Russians. And the fucker got less than a wrist-slap. And I believe it was that communist fucking animal Boasberg who presided over that.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (3MuTW)
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I may go sit under a tree in the shade for the rest of the day.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (rbvCR)
Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees — Stonewall Jackson
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 01:59 PM (rbvCR)
Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees — Stonewall Jackson
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (ALKK0)
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Fiddle-faddle, I say. Unadulterated Tommy-rot!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR)
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Willowed from book thread:
298 Josh Reynolds
@JoshReynolds24
I still am struggling to wrap my head around the fact this [UFC] is actually happening…
Don’t care what your political views are, EVERYONE should be absolutely embarrassed & ashamed that this is happening at the Lincoln Memorial & White House. What a joke.
JOSH REYNOLDS
Is This Stick Up Mat Ass Preventing Me From Having Fun Or Vice-Versa?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14
So....Sports are embarrassing but Biden's twerking transvestites, drag queens and topless trans 'women' were totally great. Sure , Jan.
298 Josh Reynolds
@JoshReynolds24
I still am struggling to wrap my head around the fact this [UFC] is actually happening…
Don’t care what your political views are, EVERYONE should be absolutely embarrassed & ashamed that this is happening at the Lincoln Memorial & White House. What a joke.
JOSH REYNOLDS
Is This Stick Up Mat Ass Preventing Me From Having Fun Or Vice-Versa?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 14
So....Sports are embarrassing but Biden's twerking transvestites, drag queens and topless trans 'women' were totally great. Sure , Jan.
Posted by: LASue at June 14, 2026 02:02 PM (lCppi)
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I'm concerned that abolishing FISA would hinder investigations of foreign espionage.
These investigations are time sensitive, and probable cause to search rarely exists-- until after the initial investigation... pursuant to FISA.
I don't want to cripple the ability to timely investigate PRC operations.
These investigations are time sensitive, and probable cause to search rarely exists-- until after the initial investigation... pursuant to FISA.
I don't want to cripple the ability to timely investigate PRC operations.
Posted by: mnw at June 14, 2026 02:02 PM (RCjYY)
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Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees — Stonewall Jackson
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (ALKK0)
Nah, just wander into the back yard and find the spot with the breeze under the apples.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2026 02:01 PM (ALKK0)
Nah, just wander into the back yard and find the spot with the breeze under the apples.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2026 02:02 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2026 02:02 PM (XeU6L)
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FWP nood
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 14, 2026 02:03 PM (+EHgv)
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Boasberg should be in prison. Let’s work toward that goal. Bukele!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 14, 2026 02:03 PM (ZVgZ4)
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>>And I believe it was that communist fucking animal Boasberg who presided over that.
You'd be correct.
You'd be correct.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 02:04 PM (viF8m)
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It took America 250 years to finally make somebody a trillionaire and he's an immigrant. You would think this would be a point of celebration.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (F9nWj)
And....he's an African-American. Seriously. Heh.
Posted by: Reforger at June 14, 2026 01:48 PM (F9nWj)
And....he's an African-American. Seriously. Heh.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 14, 2026 02:05 PM (3MuTW)
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111 8th Avenue
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (viF8m)
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That's likely another one. I'm talking about the windowless one down in Tribeca.
https://tinyurl.com/2k6592ez
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2026 01:51 PM (viF8m)
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That's likely another one. I'm talking about the windowless one down in Tribeca.
https://tinyurl.com/2k6592ez
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 14, 2026 02:08 PM (3ImbR)
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On point. Thanks.
As bad as it is, it won't get better.
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Huge G-7 demonstrations in Switzerland preceding opening. Antifa & socialists are amazingly well represented.
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Happy Flag Day!
As bad as it is, it won't get better.
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Huge G-7 demonstrations in Switzerland preceding opening. Antifa & socialists are amazingly well represented.
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Happy Flag Day!
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 14, 2026 02:12 PM (NFX2v)
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Pontiac. Wasn't that the secret service codename for Jesse Jackson?
So rayciss.
Posted by: Florida Peasant
Definitely code.
Obama wasn't even in national news and some guy described the decorating style of his library. If Obama wanted classy he should have stuck with gold curtain rods and blue velvet.
So rayciss.
Posted by: Florida Peasant
Definitely code.
Obama wasn't even in national news and some guy described the decorating style of his library. If Obama wanted classy he should have stuck with gold curtain rods and blue velvet.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2026 02:14 PM (/lPRQ)
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Bitch McConnell has been rushed to a hospital.
Posted by: Sam Adams at June 14, 2026 02:39 PM (X+xvk)
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It must be interesting to know almost nothing about how a vital national security tool is used and still call for it's abolition. This is the equivalent of the Democrats saying we should get rid of cops because some of them abuse their authority.
Posted by: Just a Guy at June 14, 2026 02:51 PM (nolJE)
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