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Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 6

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My terrace garden is pretty small so each blossoming is a little thrilling.This tiger lily was one tiny plant two years ago. I had trouble getting a good photo because they are in the planter and it is taller than I am. Of course, if you've met me, that is not difficult.

Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Thrilling photos! You did well in compensating for the height of the planter!

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Hi KT,
The first Hog Wild daylily bloomed, plus white lilies (each stalk is like an entire bouquet).

Miley

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What a gorgeous daylily! Interesting to see the differences in flower form between the daylilies and the lilies.

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Pawpaws spotted at the creek yesterday. They are not ripe yet so DO NOT EAT. They will make you really sick. September or so they will be ready.

- fd

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Let us know how they taste!

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In some earlier threads this week, there was some discussion of kale as a murder weapon, or at least as a non-food item. Suitable only as decoration on salad bars.

But for gardeners, there is another species of kale. The Siberian kales, related to rutabagas, are noted for bolting late in the spring. A kale breeder at Wild Garden Seeds says about Red Ruffled kale, "Rodrigo . . . harvested a treasure of "kale raab" from it during the hungry gap, before spring has arrived and markets are spare. He commented on the caliper of the tender stems, their weight, and sweetness. Leaves grey-green with purple-red veins and stems."

The Siberian Kales are not very decorative because they start to wilt almost as soon as they are picked. But they are easier to eat than regular kale.

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Winter Red Kale

Red Russian is the only variety of kale "napini", "raab", "rapine" - or whatever you want to call the bolted stems and buds - that I have eaten. The flavor is fine, considering that the plant bolts in very warm weather here. The flowers are perfectly edible, too. They would be highly appreciated at a time when other veggies were not available in stores.

Perhaps even Piper's Ghost might enjoy the little yellow flowers.

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Gardens of The Horde

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Hey, KT

Summer has arrived in Cowtown. Water lilies, dragonflies and rainbow minnows are flourishing, and bullfrogs have spawned. And the Pancho pup is keeping the squirrels away.

R/s

CrotchetyOldJarhead

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Thanks for sending in the great photos!

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, May 30

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

UPDATES FROM LATE COMMENTS

Thanks to our commenters, plant I.D.:

Oregon State University:

Evergreen shrub, erect, dense, to 8 ft (2.5 m) high and wide, may be a small tree 20-30 ft (6-9 m). Leaves opposite, simple, elliptical to oval, 4-6 cm long, leathery, margins entire and slightly wavy and irregularly turned under (revolute), glossy, essentially smooth and dark green above, paler and woolly below; petiole stout, to about 13 mm long, grooved and flattened above. Flowers appear in winter, male and female flowers on separate plants (dioecious), male catkin-like clusters are yellowish to greenish then gray, 8-20 cm long ("silk tassels"), female flower clusters are shorter, 5-9 cm long. Fruit are in grape-like clusters, each is round, about 6 mm wide, at first green but finally covered with a purplish-gray pubescence; may be present through the summer if not eaten by birds.

Sun or part shade. Not fussy about soil type, if well-drained. Considered a good foliage plant, can be grown as a hedge, moderate irrigation needed. Prune immediately after flowering. A few male cultivars with especially long "tassels" are available, 'James Roof' (30 cm), 'Evie' (25 cm).


From The Famous Pat*:

Name that tree: Husband and I used to live in the Bay Area of CA, and we strongly believe that tree is Garrya elliptica, also called Garrya, or Coast Silk Tassel.

Teresa in Forth Worth (and anyone else with sporadic asparagus): Cook the few spears you get, cut them up and add them to a salad - little tasty surprises as you go. Or cook them with corn or green beans. (We've pretty much given up on our asparagus bed. This year I planted broccolini at one end of the bed. And if I need space next year, I'll just overprint the asparagus some more.)
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Did autocucumber say "overprint" instead of "overplant"?

We may need to do a feature on asparagus - choice of variety (for climate), planting and care.

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Pat*'s Hubbie:

@40 > I have a question for you Morons, I have tried, unsuccessfully, for years, to eliminate Creeping Charlie from my lawn (northern MA). I have tried every weed killer mentioned on the interwebs and have pulled up as much as my old body will permit and yet it thrives. HALP!

Triclopyr is your huckleberry.

Martha Stewart has some additional advice and a nice photo for those who don't know what Creeping Charlie is. Related to mint, like lots of invasive plants.

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Pat*

(overplant!)

From Boise area: lows 48-61 F, highs 72-91. Some heavy wind gusts, lots of sycamore sticks down - so far we've raked up half the lawn. Lots of blooms - fireweed, peony, blue penstemon, bearded iris, chamomile, larkspur, wild rose hedge (I'm gathering petals).

Checked the fruit trees - most have no fruit, or just a few. Strawberries are producing! Garlic scapes got cut off. Potato bags had to be topped up. Some of the orange bell pepper starts look very bad, but the reds and poblanos are OK so far.

Under Puttering At Home, we bottled beer, a style called Kentucky Common - made with corn, which we hadn't worked with before. It comes out short of 5 percent alcohol, with a very light flavor - what Husband calls "construction beer", and fancy people call "sessionable".

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Posted by: K.T. at 01:00 PM




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1 Pancho Pup!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (Kt19C)

2 Don't forget to scroll all the way to the end of the post this week.

Posted by: KT at June 06, 2026 01:50 PM (rdeQO)

3
I got some sort of lily for Easter. I took care of it, and I had to go away for a few weeks. I left instructions with my co-habitants for watering it.

They didn't. It was a drooping, moaning sight when I got back. I trimmed the dead parts off and re-watered it. Parts of it came back.

I have a superstitious notion that all plants want to live in the ground, so I asked the gardener to get it out of the pot and plant it.

Now most of it is dead. I'm thinking of getting it out of the ground and putting it into a pot where I can control its water, sun, and soil conditions better. Sort of like a PICU.

I'm telling you, my thumbs, fingers, and toes are RED.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:57 PM (n7rxJ)

4 A friend has a pawpaw tree and we tried one - I like it. It reminds me of chico (sapodillo) fruit

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 06, 2026 02:02 PM (LmPA0)

5 Beautiful photos today - I love the backyard water features and rocks. I know what kind of labor goes into that.

Hopefully I'll capture a photo of my Indigo Dragon daylily for next week. The name is misleading, as the color isn't blue - closer to maroon, with yellow insides.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 06, 2026 02:05 PM (w6EFb)

6 4 A friend has a pawpaw tree and we tried one - I like it. It reminds me of chico (sapodillo) fruit

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If you plant a pawpaw tree it's best to get a named variety, because some of the wild ones taste of turpentine. If there are no others nearby, you will need two different varieties for cross-pollination.

Posted by: KT at June 06, 2026 02:11 PM (rdeQO)

7 Pawpaws spotted at the creek yesterday. They are not ripe yet so DO NOT EAT. They will make you really sick. September or so they will be ready.
- fd
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This sounds like something the witches gave to Rosemary while she was pregnant.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 06, 2026 02:11 PM (RIvkX)

8 CoJ's garden is amazing! Love a water feature.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 06, 2026 02:14 PM (RIvkX)

9 Those pawpaws are growing wild all over the place by the creek. They like to grow in the shade.

I suppose there are different varieties as I have seen some much bigger. These don't taste bad, but you have to catch them right when they are ready to fall off, or already have, and then they don't last long. They taste sweet, mushy, like, uh, pawpaws.

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 02:21 PM (vFG9F)

10 Does anyone know if it works to cut back regular petunias? Mine were lovely little well-behaved mounds and then the weather got warmer and rainier and they got too tall and are flopping unattractively. They are still flowering like crazy but the flopping makes them look bedraggled.

Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 02:22 PM (FMtrg)

11 Every year, I threaten to trap some animals to throw under the pawpaws to attract flies. Every year I forget.
My wife used to take an artists brush and go back and forth to trees... pollinating away.
They aren't pollinated by bees, but by flies and, to quote one book, "indifferent beetles."

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:24 PM (q6tQZ)

12 "They aren't pollinated by bees, but by flies and, to quote one book, "indifferent beetles."
Posted by: MkY"

I didn't know that. How big does your fruit get?

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 02:27 PM (vFG9F)

13 Husband calls "construction beer", and fancy people call "sessionable".

Also known as lawnmower beer?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2026 02:27 PM (IP7s4)

14 Can anyone ID the berry/plant in the photo at this link?

https://ibb.co/bjtMLRVk

These things are all over parts of my yard, but no animal or bird seems interested in the berries on them.

Poisonous?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 02:28 PM (jehhT)

15 Keep it clean you Morons. This is a family thread.

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 02:28 PM (vFG9F)

16 Thanks for a great job KT!! And thanks for the info on Creeping Chuck. I shall endeavor to perspire.

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 06, 2026 02:28 PM (/enuJ)

17 Is that a wild strawberry?

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 02:29 PM (vFG9F)

18 I read that a few companies have started selecting for big tasty paw paws...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2026 02:31 PM (IP7s4)

19 It might be the mock strawberry, Potentilla indica. Theiy're edible in that they're not toxic but they taste really bland, not strawberry at all.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 06, 2026 02:31 PM (ky7/T)

20 10 Does anyone know if it works to cut back regular petunias? Mine were lovely little well-behaved mounds and then the weather got warmer and rainier and they got too tall and are flopping unattractively. They are still flowering like crazy but the flopping makes them look bedraggled.

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Yes, you can cut them back. Just to be safe, leave a couple of leaf joints on each stem. And remove old blossoms and any developing seed pods.

You might try cutting back part of the stems and leaving others longer, on an alternating basis.

Posted by: KT at June 06, 2026 02:36 PM (rdeQO)

21 I didn't know that. How big does your fruit get?
Posted by: fd

1/2 fist.
2 I bought from a going broke nursery. Quite a few I got from MDC (Conservation dept) and I had some natives.
All the same size fruit.
I know the Japanese had cultivated it, and have larger fruits, but Mo has a long history of introducing the latest thing, only to rue it later.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:37 PM (q6tQZ)

22 Maybe you could put some spoiled fruit or dog poop under the blooming pawpaws.

Posted by: KT at June 06, 2026 02:38 PM (rdeQO)

23 Thank you, KT. These aren't Wave petunias, so somehow I expected them to maintain a mounding shape.

Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 02:38 PM (FMtrg)

24 Maybe you could put some spoiled fruit under the blooming pawpaws.
Posted by: KT

We tried meat. Didn't keep.
Every pawpaw I know of in the City proper has fruit. I figure the trash, dog poop, etc., keeps a better fly population than do the woods.
Dunno

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:40 PM (q6tQZ)

25 14 Can anyone ID the berry/plant in the photo at this link?

https://ibb.co/bjtMLRVk

These things are all over parts of my yard, but no animal or bird seems interested in the berries on them.

Poisonous?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 02:28 PM (jehhT)


Do they have yellow flowers? We have that in our yard. Like Lirio says, they're not poisonous but they are very bland with a bit of a green banana taste.

Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 02:42 PM (FMtrg)

26 In other news, our buckwheat (rotation crop inside the fence) is blooming, and the bees are starting to pay attention!
Little bunnies found the beans again, so I spent the morning trying to seal the fence bottom (electric doesn't go low enough).

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:42 PM (q6tQZ)

27 Wow! Those lilies are exuberant!

Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 02:43 PM (FMtrg)

28 Need to fix my nic after a Chris Plante reference in the prior thread.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 06, 2026 02:45 PM (FMtrg)

29 Supposedly, a bar in Lawrence, Ks used to make a pawpaw beer. I searched for it and couldn't find it.
More likely a wine, or a flavored mead... I could see that.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:45 PM (q6tQZ)

30 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Not much time even to do other yard chores. Really need to gather up leaves from.lsst year under trees

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 02:50 PM (Ia/+0)

31 That is one awesome backyard, Jarhead.

Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 02:50 PM (ZxzYs)

32 They do look a bit like strawberries, but they're roundish. Nothing around here eats them. Not birds, 'coons, possums, etc. So I was wondering if they were poisonous.

FWIW we've got all sorts of "medicinal" weeds or plants that grow wild. My wife's going to catalog them at some point.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 02:53 PM (jehhT)

33 Good afternoon all
Hot and sunny here. Seems it's either 10 degrees hotter than normal or 10 degrees colder.
The colors on that daylily are stunning.
COJH, your garden is so beautiful. It's like a miniature hiking trail or a dreamscape.
I only planted a few co tanker veges but they seem to be doing well. Probably not cost effective but it makes me smile.
🌸🌻🌼😎

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 06, 2026 02:54 PM (kJmSS)

34 I've been considering planting paw paw trees. I'm a somewhat frustrated gardener because we are surrounded by mature trees and the sunniest spot in our yard is the driveway. Paw paws are described as understory trees and might be fine with all the shade around here.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 06, 2026 02:56 PM (FMtrg)

35 72° partly cloudy but feels warmer. Van nuys.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 06, 2026 02:56 PM (Kt19C)

36 Pawpaws look tropical.
Don't forget serviceberries, which are also understory. Wonderful fruit.
Not everyone likes pawpaw. Everyone does like serviceberry.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:58 PM (q6tQZ)

37 I'm doubting the rain. Better go water.
There was some question last week I was tempted to answer at 5:00pm, but didn't. And I see we have no link to it.
Oh well.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:59 PM (q6tQZ)

38 Yesterday I planted the rest of my peppers and tomatoes. Today I planted basil, cilantro, and an alpine strawberry. It's raining gently on my transplants.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 06, 2026 02:59 PM (FMtrg)

39 Everyone does like serviceberry.
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 02:58 PM (q6tQZ)


Yes, that's another possibility I've considered.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 06, 2026 03:00 PM (FMtrg)

40 The mock strawberry is native to Asia, although it's everywhere now. Probably why nothing around here eats the berries. They're in the same family as the wild strawberry but they're two different plants.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 06, 2026 03:02 PM (ky7/T)

41 Which Cowtown is YOUR Cowtown, COJ?
Surely not Strasburg, Mo?
heh

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 03:02 PM (q6tQZ)

42 Did some weeding in the vegetable patch and saw my first wee tomato, a little stripey Alice's Dream. All my plants shot up after the soaker that blew through yesterday.

Planted some replacement marigolds. Think that's it for flowers. It's too hot to fuss.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 06, 2026 03:03 PM (kpS4V)

43 Sharon, I love those hot orange tiger lilies!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 06, 2026 03:04 PM (kpS4V)

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