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Discussing American Things as we approach the 250th anniversary of the country
The invention was once received with chilly skepticism but has become a fixture of American life
Working inside an office during a heatwave in June. A dinner party in July. Buying chocolate in August. If you talk to Salvatore Basile, author of the book Cool: How Air Conditioning Changed Everything these things wouldn’t have happened in America without the ability to cool the temperature around us. “It has shaped our world to the extent that people can carry on very normal lives during the hot months, which would not have happened before,” Basile says. Today, almost 75 percent of U.S. homes have air conditioning, but for an appliance that has become a near necessity for Americans, one of the first of its kind was surprisingly unconcerned with human comfort.
At the turn of the 20th century, humidity threatened the reputation of Brooklyn’s Sackett-Wilhelms Lithographic and Publishing Company’s high-quality color printing. After two summers of extreme heat disrupted business and caused swelling pages and blurry prints, the printing company found that a nascent cooling industry could offer help. Willis Carrier, a 25-year-old experimental engineer, created a primitive cooling system to reduce humidity around the printer. He used an industrial fan to blow air over steam coils filled with cold water; the excess humidity would then condense on the coils and produce cooled air. “Not only did it solve the problem, but [the cool air] started to make people comfortable, and then the lightbulb went off,” Basile says. Even Carrier knew that his initial invention was not the most effective way to control humidity and continued tinkering with the technology. By 1922, Carrier had created the safer, smaller and more powerful Centrifugal Refrigeration Compressor, the precursor to modern air conditioning. At the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History, one of the first practical centrifugal refrigeration compressor’s dating to 1922 is held in historic recognition of Carrier’s feat.
Experts are quick to point out that crediting Carrier as the father of modern cooling technology would overlook decades-long efforts by other inventors who used refrigeration to make hot days more productive or comfortable, though. Long before Carrier was even born, University of Glasgow professor William Cullen evaporated liquids in a vacuum thus creating refrigeration technology as early as 1748. . .The story of the Florida doctor is interesting. And then there is the contribution of the movies to air conditioning . . .
General Motors refrigerator from 1954
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) April 28, 2025
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These 80 included: A general who won the Nobel Peace Prize and also wrote a musical piece performed by classical masters. Fifty years later, with lyrics added, it topped the Billboard charts for six weeks, making an R&B singer the first African American with a #1 hit. Other recordings featured Louis Armstrong, Art Garfunkel, Van Morrison, Merle Haggard, Cass Elliot, Freddy Fender, and countless others. (Videos below.) A person of color who predated Barack Obama and Kamala Harris by nearly a century. A Jewish Christmas tree farmer who lived next-door to a future president who also grew Christmas trees. A man whose friends claimed (almost certainly wrongly) that he was actually President of the U.S. for one day. A world-class plant geneticist whose sharp leftward turn and involvement with astrology and mysticism may have cost him the presidency and who learned botany from George Washington Carver, who lived as a guest in his house. One who was so despised by his fellow senators that he derailed a presidential impeachment. A 20th century diplomat who had been a right-hand man to Abraham Lincoln and was a poet, novelist, and naturalist. A man who rose from stock clerk at GM to Chairman of U.S. Steel in 12 years. Several Confederate officials and/or military officers. A general described by Winston Churchill as “the noblest Roman of them all.” A dying man who spent almost all his heartbeat-away time in Cuba. A wit who said, “What this country needs is a really good five-cent cigar.” Another who said the vice presidency “wasn’t worth a bucket of warm piss.” You’ll meet these and many more in the chronology below. . .American history - never boring. Can you identify any of these individuals by the brief statements above, without checking the substack? Have you studied the lives of any of the persons above? Powerline also remembers D-Day
On the whole, it’s been a good week. It’s not every week that serves up the kind of supreme schadenfreudey goodness that comes from the firing of the pompous CBS News blowhard Scott Pelley, with more to follow. Less noticed was that NPR laid off most of its climate change reporters this week, too. If NPR is giving up on the climate crusade, it is well and truly over. The strong showing of Steve Hilton and Spencer Pratt (fingers crossed about those “late” votes) is also cheering, though it will still be an uphill fight to November. England continues to spiral down the drain, but after their George Floyd-in-reverse moment, I am cheered to see anti-police riots in Birmingham. Oh, and props to DOCTOR Jill Biden for providing more free entertainment with her memoir. Can Hunter’s memoir be far behind? And Obama’s library opened, with a structure that looks like it belongs in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
March: Semper Fidelis . . . John Philip Sousa (1854-1932) John Philip Sousa composed 136 marches between the years 1873 and 1931, and he described this march as his best one. Memorable and powerful in every respect, Semper Fidelis, composed in 1888, is the official march of the United States Marine Corps and takes its title from the motto of the Corps: “Always Faithful.” The special importance of this march is shown by the fact that Semper Fidelis was played as a funeral march when the Marine Band accompanied John Philip Sousa’s body on his way from the Marine Barracks to the Congressional Cemetery in 1932.
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"I want to live in a country where the poor people are fat."
Posted by: Immigrant from India at June 06, 2026 11:18 AM (djegq)
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2nd?
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 06, 2026 11:23 AM (L1JuH)
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A march in June?
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 06, 2026 11:23 AM (TezPK)
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The worst thing to happen to us was air-conditioning because it allowed Federal bureaucrats to work all summer long in comfort.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 06, 2026 11:25 AM (L1JuH)
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A/C is nice but the real game changer was indoor plumbing and shitter. Without the indoor shitter, the world would be like like India or San Francisco today.
Posted by: Joe The Plumber at June 06, 2026 11:25 AM (z20w/)
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Some years ago, I visited my aunt during the Kansas summertime in her non-air-conditioned home. I didn't complain, but she laughed at me anyway because I was perspiring and she brought me an iced tea.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at June 06, 2026 11:27 AM (FMtrg)
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The Left hates air conditioning, since it makes it easier to live in the Sunbelt, and away from the blue states.
Heating uses considerably more energy than air conditioning nationwide, but you don't see papers in Chicago or Boston denouncing people for heating their homes.
Heating uses considerably more energy than air conditioning nationwide, but you don't see papers in Chicago or Boston denouncing people for heating their homes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 06, 2026 11:27 AM (aD4fx)
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My motto: "You can always put on more clothes to keep warm, but once naked and still hot, what's the alternative?"
A/C that's what.
A/C that's what.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 11:31 AM (jehhT)
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Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 11:31 AM (Ia/+0)
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The South (and Florida) would still be stuck in the 19th century if it weren't for A/C.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 06, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc)
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There's a polar bear
In our Frigidaire--
He likes it 'cause it's cold in there.
With his seat in the meat
And his face in the fish
And his big hairy paws
In the buttery dish,
He's nibbling the noodles,
He's munching the rice,
He's slurping the soda,
He's licking the ice.
And he lets out a roar
If you open the door.
And it gives me a scare
To know he's in there--
That polary bear
In our Fridgitydaire.
In our Frigidaire--
He likes it 'cause it's cold in there.
With his seat in the meat
And his face in the fish
And his big hairy paws
In the buttery dish,
He's nibbling the noodles,
He's munching the rice,
He's slurping the soda,
He's licking the ice.
And he lets out a roar
If you open the door.
And it gives me a scare
To know he's in there--
That polary bear
In our Fridgitydaire.
Posted by: r hennigantx at June 06, 2026 11:33 AM (/+uur)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 11:33 AM (0kM66)
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The Europoors can't afford to cool their homes.
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (q6tQZ)
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Trash bags are important inventions. So is the washing machine.
But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (OsdBI)
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I appreciate air conditioning but I keep it set at 83 and use a fan to keep the air circulating. Coming in from 100+ degree weather even sometimes that setting is too cold.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 11:35 AM (5P5DO)
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Living 13 miles west of Boston we still used an outdoor ice box in the early 50s for extra storage. I would estimate the freezer on our GE frig to be less than .7 cubic feet
Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2026 11:35 AM (+t04h)
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There is the theory Marxism in its original form , rich vs poor wasn't going to work here, hence other ways to get minorities on the bandwagon is where we are today.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)
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Europeans would take A/C in a heartbeat if the government was paying for it. They just don't want to pay 4 or 500 euros a month to cool or heat their homes.
Instead, they don't get it, act like it's a civic & moral virtue to not have it, and then complain all summer sweating it out wishing they had it.
They also, apparently, think ice is a luxury.
Maybe they just like living in saunas.
Instead, they don't get it, act like it's a civic & moral virtue to not have it, and then complain all summer sweating it out wishing they had it.
They also, apparently, think ice is a luxury.
Maybe they just like living in saunas.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:36 AM (6ydKt)
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In 2015, the Washington Post declared that the refrigerator was history's greatest invention, but also noted this important point: "Europe to America: Your love of air-conditioning is stupid.
_____________
Japan has the same percentage of air conditioners as the US. It also lies within similar latitudes. But no one calls the Japanese stupid. Because the issue isn't air conditioning it's bashing the US.
Japan also has the death penalty. Another thing that never seems to get condemned.
In 2015, the Washington Post declared that the refrigerator was history's greatest invention, but also noted this important point: "Europe to America: Your love of air-conditioning is stupid.
_____________
Japan has the same percentage of air conditioners as the US. It also lies within similar latitudes. But no one calls the Japanese stupid. Because the issue isn't air conditioning it's bashing the US.
Japan also has the death penalty. Another thing that never seems to get condemned.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 11:37 AM (O0L8i)
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A/C is a great and wonderful invention.
When IO was a wee tad, the day we finally got one of those window units by Frigidaire was a great day.
We had arrived, baby. And had relief from the hot, Texas Summer weather.
Even if it was only in one room.
A/C is a great and wonderful invention.
When IO was a wee tad, the day we finally got one of those window units by Frigidaire was a great day.
We had arrived, baby. And had relief from the hot, Texas Summer weather.
Even if it was only in one room.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 06, 2026 11:37 AM (iJfKG)
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I read an article once about a woman who had air conditioner but never used it because, she said, "it makes it too hot to go outside.".
That actually makes sense.
That actually makes sense.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:38 AM (OsdBI)
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> They also, apparently, think ice is a luxury.
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Some of them don't even use ice for cocktails... even if the drink doesn't require ice in it, but the recipe says (clearly) "chilled."
A warm Martini is a goddamn crime.
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Some of them don't even use ice for cocktails... even if the drink doesn't require ice in it, but the recipe says (clearly) "chilled."
A warm Martini is a goddamn crime.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 11:40 AM (jehhT)
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But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (OsdBI)
__________
Her Majesty would say, heated car seats.
But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (OsdBI)
__________
Her Majesty would say, heated car seats.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 11:40 AM (O0L8i)
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A/C made continuous government possible.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2026 11:40 AM (Cqx++)
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I found it better to keep one constant setting. When you turn on the ac or heat you are cooling or heating everything in the house not just the air
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 11:41 AM (5P5DO)
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10 The South (and Florida) would still be stuck in the 19th century if it weren't for A/C.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 06, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc)
Oh, we'd be in the 21st century alright.
We'd just be living in homes with wide open windows with screens, flow-through design from front to back of the house/office for draft, a lot of floor and ceiling fans, and the occasional siesta after noon in the hammock on the porch.
And ice.
Lots of ice.
Ice is good.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 06, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc)
Oh, we'd be in the 21st century alright.
We'd just be living in homes with wide open windows with screens, flow-through design from front to back of the house/office for draft, a lot of floor and ceiling fans, and the occasional siesta after noon in the hammock on the porch.
And ice.
Lots of ice.
Ice is good.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:42 AM (6ydKt)
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Government scientists coincidentally discovered that Freon damages the ozone layer just about the time DuPont’s patent for Freon was set to expire
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at June 06, 2026 11:42 AM (4oiEz)
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 11:42 AM (EFkNq)
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Prior to refrigerated air, some buildings were cooled by using fans to blow air over large blocks of ice. This is where the term "ton" of air conditioning comes from, as it represents the amount of heat required to melt one ton of ice over 24 hours.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 06, 2026 11:43 AM (80m++)
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My favorite American inventions are the transistor.
Then the airplane.
Then rock and roll and jazz music.
Then the airplane.
Then rock and roll and jazz music.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 11:45 AM (+rSJz)
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The 1911.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 11:46 AM (EFkNq)
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'When General Motors built refrigerators'.
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This house was built in 1955. Mrs. Phillips *liked* pink. So pink appliances (among other stuff) were selected. We still use the pink 'Frigidaire, Division of General Motors' cooktop.
As an aside, she was this fellow's aunt:
https://shorturl.at/9wGKm note the redactions.
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This house was built in 1955. Mrs. Phillips *liked* pink. So pink appliances (among other stuff) were selected. We still use the pink 'Frigidaire, Division of General Motors' cooktop.
As an aside, she was this fellow's aunt:
https://shorturl.at/9wGKm note the redactions.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 06, 2026 11:46 AM (XeU6L)
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The automobile had a significant impact on society. Bonus points if it has A/C.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 11:46 AM (jehhT)
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dad told me he always loved the Crosley automobiles when he was a kid. Crosley also made refrigerators and he said the cars and the fridges both used the same door handle.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2026 11:47 AM (rbvCR)
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Ben Had,
I haven't heard anything about JT in a few months. How's he doing? Any birdbath status updates?
When you talk with him, please let him know we miss him.
I haven't heard anything about JT in a few months. How's he doing? Any birdbath status updates?
When you talk with him, please let him know we miss him.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 11:48 AM (qx7Zg)
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Supposedly the first air-conditioned theater was in Stockton, Mo.
They used a big fan to pull air from a cave underneath.
They used a big fan to pull air from a cave underneath.
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 11:48 AM (q6tQZ)
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I know someone who has this weird thing about not needing a/c. Not an environmental thing more like I’m tough I don’t need it. It’s like ok bro suffer if you must.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 11:49 AM (tNkpt)
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14 Trash bags are important inventions. So is the washing machine.
But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (OsdBI)
I would have said trash bags myself, but it was invented by a Canadian.
Failing that, I'd say either the light bulb, or AC and DC current.
But I'm pretty sure the most important invention was the printing press.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:34 AM (OsdBI)
I would have said trash bags myself, but it was invented by a Canadian.
Failing that, I'd say either the light bulb, or AC and DC current.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (LavZ9)
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Oh, we'd be in the 21st century alright.
We'd just be living in homes with wide open windows with screens, flow-through design from front to back of the house/office for draft, a lot of floor and ceiling fans, and the occasional siesta after noon in the hammock on the porch.
And ice.
Lots of ice.
Ice is good.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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High Ceilings
We'd just be living in homes with wide open windows with screens, flow-through design from front to back of the house/office for draft, a lot of floor and ceiling fans, and the occasional siesta after noon in the hammock on the porch.
And ice.
Lots of ice.
Ice is good.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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High Ceilings
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (0kM66)
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Search Assist
"England saw 4,507 heat-related deaths in 2025, the highest number in 35 years, driven by record temperatures exceeding 40°C"
"England saw 4,507 heat-related deaths in 2025, the highest number in 35 years, driven by record temperatures exceeding 40°C"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (XeU6L)
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Radio is probably my favorite American invention.
That and the telegraph & telephone really did change the world.
But it must've been an event for people when they first began listening in on invisible transmissions of news, music, and shows from dozens or hundreds of miles away through a box with a speaker in their living room.
Almost like it was magic.
Same for television, I suppose.
That and the telegraph & telephone really did change the world.
But it must've been an event for people when they first began listening in on invisible transmissions of news, music, and shows from dozens or hundreds of miles away through a box with a speaker in their living room.
Almost like it was magic.
Same for television, I suppose.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (6ydKt)
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Electric bills are going up fast as fossil fuel costs go up
Avg contract price for renewables is 8.5 cents per kwh and locked in for 20 years
Wonder what fossil fuels will cost in 20 years ? Buffet is selling his solar electricity at 5 cents per kwh to Cali
Avg contract price for renewables is 8.5 cents per kwh and locked in for 20 years
Wonder what fossil fuels will cost in 20 years ? Buffet is selling his solar electricity at 5 cents per kwh to Cali
Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (+t04h)
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High Ceilings
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (0kM66)
Yeah, I guess why the older homes had 10 or 11 foot ceilings on the regular.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 11:50 AM (0kM66)
Yeah, I guess why the older homes had 10 or 11 foot ceilings on the regular.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (6ydKt)
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High Ceilings
Posted by: Braenyard
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Tall windows, and, transoms...when was the last time you saw a transom?
Posted by: Braenyard
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Tall windows, and, transoms...when was the last time you saw a transom?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (XeU6L)
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Back in the 1970's there were homes built called "basement houses". Basically a walk out basement with a roof over it and no actual "house" built on top. This is the style of house my parents built. Built it themselves, cinder block walls, a big iron I beam from my great gran dad's blacksmith shop, interior finished with lumber from my grandpa's sawmill. Cost $14000 to build. 4 bedrooms, one bathroom, no central heating, and no A/C. Just a big natural gas fueled heater in the great room.
The back part of the house never got below 65° in the winter (just add more blankets) and never higher than 70° in the summer. A fan blowing warm air down the hall in the winter and turned around to blow cooler air into the great room in the summer. It was comfortable enough.
The back part of the house never got below 65° in the winter (just add more blankets) and never higher than 70° in the summer. A fan blowing warm air down the hall in the winter and turned around to blow cooler air into the great room in the summer. It was comfortable enough.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (OsdBI)
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Failing that, I'd say either the light bulb, or AC and DC current.
Sorry ... but AC/DC was invented by the Aussies.
Sorry ... but AC/DC was invented by the Aussies.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (EFkNq)
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Paul is too stupid to understand that it costs $25k to install solar panels on a home and the break even is many decades, by which time most people will have moved.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (tNkpt)
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Hour of the Wolf, he is in a long term care facility and will remain there. Quarter Twenty visited him and set him up with another internet capable device but without direct interaction he doesn't use them.
He does remember the Horde when speaking to him.
He does remember the Horde when speaking to him.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (5P5DO)
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 11:53 AM (EFkNq)
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I wonder if all the elite enviros out there like Leo DeCaprio forgo A/C in their palatial mansions.
Hint: they do not
Hint: they do not
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 11:55 AM (tNkpt)
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The best part of Paul ran down his mommy's ass crack.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 06, 2026 11:55 AM (+mpku)
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Ben Had, Thank you for the update.
Not what I'd hope to hear, but I like the truth over having good vibes and bullshit.
Not what I'd hope to hear, but I like the truth over having good vibes and bullshit.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 11:55 AM (qx7Zg)
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I still remember well my 2 yesrs in East Anglia no onecwas thinking of air conditioning. I assumed long after that just the way it always was. Until on year heard at Wimbledon it was in the 90s. I really don't think ever saw much around 80 at highest.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 11:55 AM (Ia/+0)
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Thankfully due to general climate and particular location, this house doesn't need AC. Had it, installed by prior residents, but when it wore out I replaced it with a whole-house fan. We're right at in the inner limit of marine influence in terms of temps, so a very sweet spot. Years ago (can't find now) I saw the annual averages from nearby public university weather station. Mean highs/lows were ridiculously close, about 7 degrees. But exact location matters, houses without the breeze, blocks away, are much hotter. Humidity is rare so I still don't get the amount of AC, but whatever.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
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Guglielmo Marconi, an Italian, is most widely recognized as the inventor of the radio as it is known today.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (+rSJz)
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It was comfortable enough.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (OsdBI)
I've seen some videos of people who've built homes underground.
I like the idea.
It definitely saves on energy costs.
Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (OsdBI)
I've seen some videos of people who've built homes underground.
I like the idea.
It definitely saves on energy costs.
Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: man at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (XuXeR)
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It was comfortable enough.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (OsdBI)
I've seen some videos of people who've built homes underground.
I like the idea.
It definitely saves on energy costs.
Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6ydKt)
I wonder how well it would hold up against tornados.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 11:52 AM (OsdBI)
I've seen some videos of people who've built homes underground.
I like the idea.
It definitely saves on energy costs.
Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6ydKt)
I wonder how well it would hold up against tornados.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 11:59 AM (qx7Zg)
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Air conditioning was done all over the ancient Near East. It's called a "windcatcher".
A big tower takes the desert breeze and funnels it into the lower rooms or even the basement. This pushes out the air on the bottom which might have been warmed up by human activity or just the hot walls.
The outside air might not be all that cool itself, so a common tweak is to have a pool of water on the bottom, maybe fed by nearby streams. This will evaporate and actively cool the ground floor.
tinyurl.com/4vma7vht
A big tower takes the desert breeze and funnels it into the lower rooms or even the basement. This pushes out the air on the bottom which might have been warmed up by human activity or just the hot walls.
The outside air might not be all that cool itself, so a common tweak is to have a pool of water on the bottom, maybe fed by nearby streams. This will evaporate and actively cool the ground floor.
tinyurl.com/4vma7vht
Posted by: gKWVE at June 06, 2026 11:59 AM (gKWVE)
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Had a VW bug for years while living in the humid east. I described the AC as "2/55 AC" - two windows down @55MPH. Barely any effective heat either of course, which was fun in the winter. But the battery died once and I was so busy I didn't have time to go get it replaced, just parked on inclines and push-started for 2 weeks. So that was nice.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 11:59 AM (U/Byj)
Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 06, 2026 12:00 PM (jrgJz)
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My wife has been in Italy for a week. Her first day was 89 degrees but the hotel had A/C. Since then she's stayed at 2 other hotels, one of which had A/C. Apparently, it's in the 70's now, so that's good. She hates the heat almost as I hate the cold.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:00 PM (vV6n9)
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👍🏼 as always.
While certainly true, probably wouldn't put the featured window A/C in a bedroom. (Manufactured by Zengshi Life Museum, a Chinese brand registered through Canada, I think.)
While certainly true, probably wouldn't put the featured window A/C in a bedroom. (Manufactured by Zengshi Life Museum, a Chinese brand registered through Canada, I think.)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2026 12:00 PM (NFX2v)
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My house is well shaded in the summer. It gets pretty cool at night as well. Usually down into the 50s. Open windows at night, house is nice and cool in the morning. Close windows in the morning. Throughout the day the temp slowly rises in the house and around 2 or 3 in the afternoon the a/c kicks in. By 9 or so it starts cooling off, open windows, start the cycle again.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:00 PM (tNkpt)
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The John Nance Garner quote is obvious.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 06, 2026 12:02 PM (T6aVk)
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There was a viral meme going around earlier in the summer that Europe loses more lives to heat deaths than the US does to guns from all causes. The author of this article attempts to debunk that meme in several ways, and the best she can come up with is that the per-capita numbers are similar: https://bit.ly/4dRBBZL
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 06, 2026 12:02 PM (xVpNO)
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gKWVE, was just about to mention that. In Dubai (Sharjah actually, just a short drive) there is a preserved compound and the buildings all have that wind-catching tower.
I'm sure it helped, but the heat/humidity combo in places like that is something to experience. Actually hottest/most humid experience was Hanoi in June. The white-gloved guards inside Ho's tomb had to keep hurrying people along, it was clear everyone was enjoying the cool dry air inside after waiting in line outside where it was so hot/humid that it was funny.
I'm sure it helped, but the heat/humidity combo in places like that is something to experience. Actually hottest/most humid experience was Hanoi in June. The white-gloved guards inside Ho's tomb had to keep hurrying people along, it was clear everyone was enjoying the cool dry air inside after waiting in line outside where it was so hot/humid that it was funny.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 12:03 PM (U/Byj)
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Here in ETEX we appreciate A/C because we be old folk and remember window fan, ceiling fan, and funeral home hand fan.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (LHPAg)
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I remember those basement houses. Basically a man made cave. There was often a problem with moisture and inevitable mold problem.
There was no air turn over.
Siting was an issue because of ground water problems.
The were popular in SE Ohio and western PA as I recall.
There was no air turn over.
Siting was an issue because of ground water problems.
The were popular in SE Ohio and western PA as I recall.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (+rSJz)
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Another major strike against my truck besides transmission trouble is no air conditioning, no electronics or radio too but I listen to podcasts on my phone
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (Ia/+0)
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Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6ydKt)
This wasn't completely underground. There are windows in every room. The biggest problem is humidity. The floors were poured concrete covered with linoleum. They were wet in the summer. And mold was an issue. My brother has the house now and is finding mold in every wall. They're basically gutting that house and redoing every wall and floor with waterproof everything. And location is a big deal. The ground slopes toward the house. Over time small cracks develop and ground water seeps in. They're spending the summer and a hella lot of money to fix everything.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6ydKt)
This wasn't completely underground. There are windows in every room. The biggest problem is humidity. The floors were poured concrete covered with linoleum. They were wet in the summer. And mold was an issue. My brother has the house now and is finding mold in every wall. They're basically gutting that house and redoing every wall and floor with waterproof everything. And location is a big deal. The ground slopes toward the house. Over time small cracks develop and ground water seeps in. They're spending the summer and a hella lot of money to fix everything.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (OsdBI)
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Paul doesn’t get that gas prices are coming DOWN. I’m paying $3.39/gal unleaded now.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 06, 2026 12:05 PM (T6aVk)
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Underground house! Bilbo Baggins did it first !
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 12:06 PM (5P5DO)
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Heroq this house is the same during almost all the warm/hot weather. Open up at night, close up in the morning. The whole-house fan is a just a booster to bring in the cooler air starting late afternoon/evening. And have only used it a few dozen times in the few years we've had it. Huge tree in back shades 80% of the length of the house in the afternoon.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 12:06 PM (U/Byj)
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And location is a big deal. The ground slopes toward the house.
Yep. Water wins every time. The only option is to give it somewhere else to go.
Yep. Water wins every time. The only option is to give it somewhere else to go.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (EFkNq)
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I've also seen several times where some guy in Kansas, or other states, has bought an old missile silo or bunker from the government and turned into a home.
It's beyond description how unusual the layouts are but nobody can say it's not unique.
They're also turning them into condos and Airbnbs.
It's beyond description how unusual the layouts are but nobody can say it's not unique.
They're also turning them into condos and Airbnbs.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (6ydKt)
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Transistors.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (IP7s4)
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Indeed, that hint of freon adds mystique to her interludes.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (nDXEV)
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This country has contributed immeasurably to communication and transportation. The airplane will remain my most beloved American invention.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 06, 2026 12:09 PM (T6aVk)
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Underground house! Bilbo Baggins did it first !
Posted by: Ben Had
Heh. When I was younger I liked the idea of converting a decommissioned missile base into an underground home/supervillain lair. These days I still like the idea of subterranean living, just more Hobbit and less Hades.
Posted by: Ben Had
Heh. When I was younger I liked the idea of converting a decommissioned missile base into an underground home/supervillain lair. These days I still like the idea of subterranean living, just more Hobbit and less Hades.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at June 06, 2026 12:09 PM (N5734)
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Yep. Water wins every time. The only option is to give it somewhere else to go.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (EFkNq)
Been there, done that. The water still eventually wins again.
I think it cheats.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 12:07 PM (EFkNq)
Been there, done that. The water still eventually wins again.
I think it cheats.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 12:10 PM (OsdBI)
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Making a note that if I ever build my Biblbo Baggins dream home that I need to buy several dehumidifiers.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:11 PM (6ydKt)
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Yeah, I guess why the older homes had 10 or 11 foot ceilings on the regular.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (6ydKt)
But a bitch to heat in the winter.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (6ydKt)
But a bitch to heat in the winter.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (5xuJ/)
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Years ago (can't find now) I saw the annual averages from nearby public university weather station. Mean highs/lows were ridiculously close, about 7 degrees. But exact location matters, houses without the breeze, blocks away, are much hotter. Humidity is rare so I still don't get the amount of AC, but whatever.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
Location matters, as does urban planning. I heard endless bitching from Israelis about how Tel Aviv was ruined by running major throughfares from North to South, parallel to the Mediterranean coast, which caused a windbreak effect from the buildings, killing the on-shore breezes making the city a humid, sweltering hell-scape, weather-wise.
Years ago (can't find now) I saw the annual averages from nearby public university weather station. Mean highs/lows were ridiculously close, about 7 degrees. But exact location matters, houses without the breeze, blocks away, are much hotter. Humidity is rare so I still don't get the amount of AC, but whatever.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
Location matters, as does urban planning. I heard endless bitching from Israelis about how Tel Aviv was ruined by running major throughfares from North to South, parallel to the Mediterranean coast, which caused a windbreak effect from the buildings, killing the on-shore breezes making the city a humid, sweltering hell-scape, weather-wise.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (FkdoK)
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My house is very old, built well before a/c was a thing. You tell the original owners thought it out well and placed trees strategically to keep the house as shaded as possible in the summer. The trees follow the sun.
Also has windows set up to allow cross breezes regardless of which direction the wind is blowing.
Must have been designed by a black transgender lesbian, what being so clever and all.
Also has windows set up to allow cross breezes regardless of which direction the wind is blowing.
Must have been designed by a black transgender lesbian, what being so clever and all.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (tNkpt)
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Making a note that if I ever build my Biblbo Baggins dream home that I need to buy several dehumidifiers.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:11 PM (6ydKt)
Or build in a dry climate. Southern Indiana is not a dry climate. Don't build that here unless you are on top of a hill.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:11 PM (6ydKt)
Or build in a dry climate. Southern Indiana is not a dry climate. Don't build that here unless you are on top of a hill.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 12:13 PM (OsdBI)
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J. Frank Dobie, famed Texas writer of the past: Air Conditioning will be the ruination of Texas, because it means the damn Yankees will come down and start living here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 12:15 PM (3mtTi)
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Dobie, famed Texas writer of the past: Air Conditioning will be the ruination of Texas, because it means the damn Yankees will come down and start living here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 12:15 PM (3mtTi)
Right?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 12:15 PM (3mtTi)
Right?
Posted by: Florida at June 06, 2026 12:16 PM (tNkpt)
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Guglielmo Marconi, an Italian, is most widely recognized as the inventor of the radio as it is known today.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (+rSJz)
He successfully commercialized wireless telegraphy. He had nothing to do with the development of adding sound modulation to the signal, or the advent of commercial radio as we know it.
Reginald Fessenden, a Canadian working in Massachusetts, was the first person ever to transmit voice and recorded music by radio.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 11:56 AM (+rSJz)
He successfully commercialized wireless telegraphy. He had nothing to do with the development of adding sound modulation to the signal, or the advent of commercial radio as we know it.
Reginald Fessenden, a Canadian working in Massachusetts, was the first person ever to transmit voice and recorded music by radio.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2026 12:18 PM (1z8ji)
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83 Yeah, I guess why the older homes had 10 or 11 foot ceilings on the regular.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (6ydKt)
But a bitch to heat in the winter.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (5xuJ/)
Same reason (well cost, also) that most southern houses were built pier and beam with a 3’ crawl space under the house, and no cellar.
83 Yeah, I guess why the older homes had 10 or 11 foot ceilings on the regular.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 11:51 AM (6ydKt)
But a bitch to heat in the winter.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (5xuJ/)
Same reason (well cost, also) that most southern houses were built pier and beam with a 3’ crawl space under the house, and no cellar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 12:18 PM (3mtTi)
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I'm fortunate to live where swamp coolers work very well.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:18 PM (ZxzYs)
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There really is no economic advantage to using PVs if utility power is available. If there is natural gas available its even a bigger loser.
All those "cost savings" is in creative accounting.
Best use of your bucks if you want to minimize operating costs up front is in energy conservation like tight construction, insulation, properly placed and shaded windows.
Even in retrofit situations.
But it's a free country. Ain't it great!
All those "cost savings" is in creative accounting.
Best use of your bucks if you want to minimize operating costs up front is in energy conservation like tight construction, insulation, properly placed and shaded windows.
Even in retrofit situations.
But it's a free country. Ain't it great!
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:19 PM (+rSJz)
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Also has windows set up to allow cross breezes regardless of which direction the wind is blowing.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (tNkpt)
That's how my old farmhouse was. Lots of tall narrow windows, exterior doors everywhere, A wrap around porch to shade the windows and doors. Big old maple trees for shade.
The trees died off. The windows and doors were a huge problem in the winter. And humidity caused a lot of rot underneath the structure. Poor old thing was falling down when we had it demolished. I hated it but we had no choice.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (tNkpt)
That's how my old farmhouse was. Lots of tall narrow windows, exterior doors everywhere, A wrap around porch to shade the windows and doors. Big old maple trees for shade.
The trees died off. The windows and doors were a huge problem in the winter. And humidity caused a lot of rot underneath the structure. Poor old thing was falling down when we had it demolished. I hated it but we had no choice.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 06, 2026 12:19 PM (OsdBI)
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This country has contributed immeasurably to communication and transportation. The airplane will remain my most beloved American invention.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 06, 2026 12:09 PM (T6aVk)
Virtually every product/convenience in the past 150 years or better that makes Western Civilization vastly superior to the alternative was invented by Americans, in America. Jealousy over this truth is the root of the Eurotrash hating the US even more than they hate each other.
This country has contributed immeasurably to communication and transportation. The airplane will remain my most beloved American invention.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 06, 2026 12:09 PM (T6aVk)
Virtually every product/convenience in the past 150 years or better that makes Western Civilization vastly superior to the alternative was invented by Americans, in America. Jealousy over this truth is the root of the Eurotrash hating the US even more than they hate each other.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2026 12:19 PM (FkdoK)
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The other effect in Europe of general lack of AC besides mass deaths is that everyone's on vacation for July and August so business essentially stops 2 months out of the year.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:19 PM (QZThv)
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I appreciate air conditioning but I keep it set at 83 and use a fan to keep the air circulating. Coming in from 100+ degree weather even sometimes that setting is too cold.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 11:35 AM (5P5DO)
68 to 72. My ancestry (DNA) loves cold. Hate summer.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 11:35 AM (5P5DO)
68 to 72. My ancestry (DNA) loves cold. Hate summer.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)
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There's something so cool about that '54 Frigidaire.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 06, 2026 12:21 PM (qBdHI)
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But a bitch to heat in the winter.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (5xuJ/)
Tell me about it.
The room I'm in has no false ceiling in it.
The ceiling is sloped at the roof-line.
At the highest point it's about 20 feet.
It looks cool but it's a bear keeping this room cool or warm enough even with a ceiling fan set for winter and summer rotation. It's regularly 4 or 5 degrees warmer (or cooler) in here than the rest of the house.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2026 12:12 PM (5xuJ/)
Tell me about it.
The room I'm in has no false ceiling in it.
The ceiling is sloped at the roof-line.
At the highest point it's about 20 feet.
It looks cool but it's a bear keeping this room cool or warm enough even with a ceiling fan set for winter and summer rotation. It's regularly 4 or 5 degrees warmer (or cooler) in here than the rest of the house.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:21 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Rex B at June 06, 2026 12:22 PM (rgnea)
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5 A/C is nice but the real game changer was indoor plumbing and shitter. Without the indoor shitter, the world would be like like India or San Francisco today.
Posted by: Joe The Plumber at June 06, 2026 11:25 AM (z20w/)
In the Seattle underground tour, there is a display of the first toilet in the city that was invented by John Crapper. It is somehow appropriate for Seattle.
Posted by: Joe The Plumber at June 06, 2026 11:25 AM (z20w/)
In the Seattle underground tour, there is a display of the first toilet in the city that was invented by John Crapper. It is somehow appropriate for Seattle.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:22 PM (2WIwB)
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You're welcome!
Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 12:23 PM (FMtrg)
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In the Seattle underground tour, there is a display of the first toilet in the city that was invented by John Crapper. It is somehow appropriate for Seattle.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:22 PM (2WIwB)
What an unfortunate last name.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:22 PM (2WIwB)
What an unfortunate last name.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:24 PM (ZxzYs)
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I use the heated car seat on the passenger side to keep carry out food warm until I can get it home!
Posted by: DanMa'am at June 06, 2026 12:24 PM (8uzBS)
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After the Army, I spent a few months as a Security Guard at the Marconi station in Chatham, MA. That place was wild. Massive "computers" and all that goes with that. I held the job until a demo team came and blew up (down?) the main tower. I think it became a State Park or something. I used to sneak my girlfriend into Marconi's cottage and pound a few beers.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:24 PM (vV6n9)
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Watching Red Dawn, see lots of negative videos on the BoB with Bligh to turn me off. He lived long, fought in Korea
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:25 PM (Ia/+0)
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Mom. I'm going to make sure our name is never forgotten.
Posted by: 8 yo Jonny Crapper at June 06, 2026 12:26 PM (ZxzYs)
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From the D-Day memo, A.G. Kirk advising forces on the danger of the mission: "These are not beaches held by apathetic Italians"
Intentional or unintentional humor? In any case, I'm stealing it. Expect to see adaptations in future posts.
From the D-Day memo, A.G. Kirk advising forces on the danger of the mission: "These are not beaches held by apathetic Italians"
Intentional or unintentional humor? In any case, I'm stealing it. Expect to see adaptations in future posts.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 12:26 PM (n7rxJ)
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Developing the ability to use natural gas.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 12:26 PM (5P5DO)
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Virtually every product/convenience in the past 150 years or better that makes Western Civilization vastly superior to the alternative was invented by Americans, in America. Jealousy over this truth is the root of the Eurotrash hating the US even more than they hate each other.
I saw an interesting explanation for that. You know how there are wonky predictions about how AI will eliminate most work and create massive universal wealth? Europe believed that about the Industrial Revolution and Ford-style assembly lines. So they stopped trying and missed having a significant position in basically every technology invented post-WW1.
There are almost zero interesting global European companies for computers, the Internet, semiconductor design, social media, or AI. ARM is the most important thing Europe has in any of those spaces, and it's a big deal, but it was also launched on an investment from Apple developing ideas from UC Berkeley and is foreign-owned now.
I saw an interesting explanation for that. You know how there are wonky predictions about how AI will eliminate most work and create massive universal wealth? Europe believed that about the Industrial Revolution and Ford-style assembly lines. So they stopped trying and missed having a significant position in basically every technology invented post-WW1.
There are almost zero interesting global European companies for computers, the Internet, semiconductor design, social media, or AI. ARM is the most important thing Europe has in any of those spaces, and it's a big deal, but it was also launched on an investment from Apple developing ideas from UC Berkeley and is foreign-owned now.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:27 PM (QZThv)
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Whenever I stumble across some video on YouTube of Brits coming to the US for the first time, I always have to give is a look see. They, generally, spend the entire video pointing out that they have been lied to about America. Air Conditioning is inevitably a part of the discussion, and the usual response is WHY THE BLOODY HELL DON'T WE HAVE THIS IN THE UK?
Other staples of these videos is how nice Americans are to them. And, how much they enjoy the interaction and conversations with complete strangers. They usually talk about how standoffrish Brits are with each other. My favorite is how they can't believe the extreme weather events that Americans just shake off and move on.
Other staples of these videos is how nice Americans are to them. And, how much they enjoy the interaction and conversations with complete strangers. They usually talk about how standoffrish Brits are with each other. My favorite is how they can't believe the extreme weather events that Americans just shake off and move on.
Posted by: Orson at June 06, 2026 12:27 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 12:28 PM (O0L8i)
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My wife needs the heat at 74 or 75 in winter. If it’s at 70 she needs a sweater But 74 in summer is insufferably hot for her and the a/c needs to be at 70.
Make it make sense to me.
Make it make sense to me.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:28 PM (tNkpt)
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Probably the best American invention, and also the most despised: Freedom.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 06, 2026 12:28 PM (CHHv1)
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I'm inclined to agree that refrigeration is the greatest invention, but fire has its place too. And it was first.
Posted by: Thag at June 06, 2026 12:29 PM (2WIwB)
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I'm taking a Brit shooting Sunday. Told him we were going to asshole mountain and left it for him to figure out where that was.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ZxzYs)
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There is a good apocalypse chance the Marxists here would get foreign countries to finish a takeover
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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AOP, you are correct.
I'd kind of forgotten about Reginald Fessenden. He worked for Edison and went to Westinghouse.
Guy had a shit ton of patents.
I love Grok:
Fessenden’s most famous achievement came on Christmas Eve, December 24, 1906, from his experimental station at Brant Rock, Massachusetts.
He conducted what is widely recognized as the world’s first public radio broadcast of entertainment and music:
A Bible reading from the Gospel of Luke
A phonograph recording of Handel’s “Largo”
Fessenden himself playing “O Holy Night” on the violin
Closing remarks wishing listeners a Merry Christmas
The transmission used a high-frequency alternator (developed with Ernst Alexanderson of General Electric) to generate continuous waves, combined with his AM techniques.
Ships at sea heard it clearly—some reports came from as far as Norfolk, Virginia, and beyond (hundreds of miles). Operators were astonished to hear a human voice and music instead of Morse code.
He had also achieved the first two-way radiotelegraphic communication across the Atlantic earlier in 1906 (between Brant Rock and Machrihanish, Scotland).
I'd kind of forgotten about Reginald Fessenden. He worked for Edison and went to Westinghouse.
Guy had a shit ton of patents.
I love Grok:
Fessenden’s most famous achievement came on Christmas Eve, December 24, 1906, from his experimental station at Brant Rock, Massachusetts.
He conducted what is widely recognized as the world’s first public radio broadcast of entertainment and music:
A Bible reading from the Gospel of Luke
A phonograph recording of Handel’s “Largo”
Fessenden himself playing “O Holy Night” on the violin
Closing remarks wishing listeners a Merry Christmas
The transmission used a high-frequency alternator (developed with Ernst Alexanderson of General Electric) to generate continuous waves, combined with his AM techniques.
Ships at sea heard it clearly—some reports came from as far as Norfolk, Virginia, and beyond (hundreds of miles). Operators were astonished to hear a human voice and music instead of Morse code.
He had also achieved the first two-way radiotelegraphic communication across the Atlantic earlier in 1906 (between Brant Rock and Machrihanish, Scotland).
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:31 PM (+rSJz)
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Wanna hear a secret about Europe? Rich people all have a/c. And they also drive.
It’s the poor and middle class who have no a/c and have to ask the bus or train everywhere.
They don’t live that way by choice, but because they can’t afford the “luxuries” Americans take for granted. Europeans are dirt poor relative to Americans.
It’s the poor and middle class who have no a/c and have to ask the bus or train everywhere.
They don’t live that way by choice, but because they can’t afford the “luxuries” Americans take for granted. Europeans are dirt poor relative to Americans.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:31 PM (tNkpt)
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Make it make sense to me.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:28 PM (tNkpt)
Lucky. I get +- 2° of 68 or I better be doing something about it.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:28 PM (tNkpt)
Lucky. I get +- 2° of 68 or I better be doing something about it.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (ZxzYs)
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Air Conditioning is inevitably a part of the discussion, and the usual response is WHY THE BLOODY HELL DON'T WE HAVE THIS IN THE UK?
Other staples of these videos is how nice Americans are to them. And, how much they enjoy the interaction and conversations with complete strangers. They usually talk about how standoffrish Brits are with each other.
Air conditioning has been growing rapidly in popularity in the UK, which is further stressing their ability to appease Greta Thunberg with bird Cuisinarts.
Other staples of these videos is how nice Americans are to them. And, how much they enjoy the interaction and conversations with complete strangers. They usually talk about how standoffrish Brits are with each other.
Air conditioning has been growing rapidly in popularity in the UK, which is further stressing their ability to appease Greta Thunberg with bird Cuisinarts.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (QZThv)
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Reforger, A Brit citizen? If so, swear him to secrecy. The last Brit that mentioned shooting guns here was arrested when he got home.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (5P5DO)
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What is your favorite American invention?
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The Transistor.
/During Pride Month? REALLY???
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The Transistor.
/During Pride Month? REALLY???
Posted by: ShainS at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (+mTA5)
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Does Ace have a challenger for main Ewok?
(Breitbart) Pop Singer Doja Cat Calls Elon Musk a ‘Barrel Chested Ewok’ While Complaining About X Features
(Breitbart) Pop Singer Doja Cat Calls Elon Musk a ‘Barrel Chested Ewok’ While Complaining About X Features
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (qx7Zg)
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First!!
Posted by: Fire at June 06, 2026 12:33 PM (ZxzYs)
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Pretty sure it was a Britain who came here, went shooting, took pictures of then got arrested at home for crime of holding a real gun
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:33 PM (Ia/+0)
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I am fortunate to live in a place where ac is needed only about 15 days a year. So, I just go dunk in 54 degree Puget Sound when it gets too warm and enjoy my electric bill of $40 for two months from May to October. Windows open all the time.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 12:33 PM (gjFiG)
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Pretty sure it was a Britain who came here, went shooting, took pictures of then got arrested at home for crime of holding a real gun
It was. Brits are the closest of the major European ethnicities to understanding US freedom, which is why I'm constantly surprised that Starmer hasn't been given a free helicopter ride yet.
It was. Brits are the closest of the major European ethnicities to understanding US freedom, which is why I'm constantly surprised that Starmer hasn't been given a free helicopter ride yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:35 PM (QZThv)
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Pretty sure it was a Britain who came here, went shooting, took pictures of then got arrested at home for crime of holding a real gun
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:33 PM (Ia/+0)
And this is why Britain is lost.
You can bet those mosques have armories.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:33 PM (Ia/+0)
And this is why Britain is lost.
You can bet those mosques have armories.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:35 PM (2WIwB)
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Other than the lack of windows and sunlight it seems like it would be a cool experience.
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Seek ye the Whole Earth Catalog. Bermed houses they were called. They were in contest with Fuller's geodesic dome. I think condensation and air circulation problems cut the berm house short.
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Seek ye the Whole Earth Catalog. Bermed houses they were called. They were in contest with Fuller's geodesic dome. I think condensation and air circulation problems cut the berm house short.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:36 PM (0kM66)
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Here in ETEX we appreciate A/C because we be old folk and remember window fan, ceiling fan, and funeral home hand fan.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (LHPAg)
Attic fan we had in LA was a gamechanger. Run it for about 30 seconds at dusk to get a whole house air exchange.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 12:04 PM (LHPAg)
Attic fan we had in LA was a gamechanger. Run it for about 30 seconds at dusk to get a whole house air exchange.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 12:37 PM (dK+Kv)
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There are almost zero interesting global European companies for computers, the Internet, semiconductor design, social media, or AI. ARM is the most important thing Europe has in any of those spaces, and it's a big deal, but it was also launched on an investment from Apple developing ideas from UC Berkeley and is foreign-owned now.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:27 PM (QZThv)
ASML is Dutch.
They manufacture the most advanced EUV lithography machines for chip making.
But, yeah, most other Euro tech companies are bit players.
They missed the boat on internet search and social media entirely, for instance.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:27 PM (QZThv)
ASML is Dutch.
They manufacture the most advanced EUV lithography machines for chip making.
But, yeah, most other Euro tech companies are bit players.
They missed the boat on internet search and social media entirely, for instance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:37 PM (6ydKt)
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There is a good apocalypse chance the Marxists here would get foreign countries to finish a takeover
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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Why they're in bed with at least three Death Cults: The Cartels, The ChiComms, and The Muzzies.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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Why they're in bed with at least three Death Cults: The Cartels, The ChiComms, and The Muzzies.
Posted by: ShainS at June 06, 2026 12:37 PM (+mTA5)
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The Transistor.
/During Pride Month? REALLY???
Posted by: ShainS at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (+mTA5)
Nukes. Providing 80 years of relative peace on earth.
/During Pride Month? REALLY???
Posted by: ShainS at June 06, 2026 12:32 PM (+mTA5)
Nukes. Providing 80 years of relative peace on earth.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 12:38 PM (dK+Kv)
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The United States of America, as a whole, is the greatest invention ever created and it was done with the guidance of GOD. The world would be an entirely different place if the the USA never was, and not in a good way.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 06, 2026 12:39 PM (VCgbV)
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I have had trouble with forced air heat. It’s too dry. And dusty. So I started using just an oil radiator heater in the living room and it is much nicer.
And when the power goes out (3-4x every winter) I have a wood burning fireplace.
It’s pretty mild out here. Today’s high will be 56. Supposed to get thunderstorms and it’s snowing at the higher mountain passes.
Springtime in the PNW.
And when the power goes out (3-4x every winter) I have a wood burning fireplace.
It’s pretty mild out here. Today’s high will be 56. Supposed to get thunderstorms and it’s snowing at the higher mountain passes.
Springtime in the PNW.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 12:39 PM (A5RD0)
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But, yeah, most other Euro tech companies are bit players.
They missed the boat on internet search and social media entirely, for instance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:37 PM (6ydKt)
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But hey! They invented Legos!
They missed the boat on internet search and social media entirely, for instance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:37 PM (6ydKt)
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But hey! They invented Legos!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:40 PM (2WIwB)
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114 I'm inclined to agree that refrigeration is the greatest invention, but fire has its place too. And it was first.
Posted by: Thag at June 06, 2026 12:29 PM (2WIwB)
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I'm going to have to suggest cars and planes as the best (or most impactful) invention. It moved humanity away from Tribalism. Tribalism created friction among inhabitants of each community even in relatively close proximity. By creating a transportation to move well beyond your origin in a personal capacity allowed a flow and coagulation of new ideas which led to innovation. I truly believe that that ability elevated a locale to 1st World, while the Tribalistic communities remained 3rd world (ME, Africa etc.). We still hold onto the instinct for tribalism, but have transferred it onto sports teams and more innocuous facets.
Posted by: Thag at June 06, 2026 12:29 PM (2WIwB)
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I'm going to have to suggest cars and planes as the best (or most impactful) invention. It moved humanity away from Tribalism. Tribalism created friction among inhabitants of each community even in relatively close proximity. By creating a transportation to move well beyond your origin in a personal capacity allowed a flow and coagulation of new ideas which led to innovation. I truly believe that that ability elevated a locale to 1st World, while the Tribalistic communities remained 3rd world (ME, Africa etc.). We still hold onto the instinct for tribalism, but have transferred it onto sports teams and more innocuous facets.
Posted by: Orson at June 06, 2026 12:40 PM (dIske)
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UK has “free” health care.
We have Google, Apple, Tesla, Intel, Microsoft and 1000 others.
Pretty good trade off I’d say.
We have Google, Apple, Tesla, Intel, Microsoft and 1000 others.
Pretty good trade off I’d say.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:41 PM (tNkpt)
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Joining the Horde in saying the A/C thing for $35 is the insulating barrier, not the A/C itself. 😹 "ZENGSHI LIFE MUSEUM" What the hell kind of company name is that?
Posted by: 5Cats at June 06, 2026 12:41 PM (G1Bav)
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Springtime in the PNW.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 12:39 PM (A5RD0)
Is it just me or has this been an unusually cool Spring?
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 12:39 PM (A5RD0)
Is it just me or has this been an unusually cool Spring?
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (2WIwB)
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Nurse Ratched, if I may impose, I have a question. I have never been to the PNW, and I really want to see the giant Redwood/Sequoia trees. Where should we fly into, what time of year is best, etc.?
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (vV6n9)
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ASML is Dutch.
They manufacture the most advanced EUV lithography machines for chip making.
True, but I count photolithography as a pre-WW1 technology. Yeah, the stuff they do now is far beyond what Kodak and Polaroid were doing 110 years ago, but the fundamentals haven't changed.
They manufacture the most advanced EUV lithography machines for chip making.
True, but I count photolithography as a pre-WW1 technology. Yeah, the stuff they do now is far beyond what Kodak and Polaroid were doing 110 years ago, but the fundamentals haven't changed.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:44 PM (QZThv)
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We will pratice proper OPSEC with the king's subject.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:44 PM (ZxzYs)
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:44 PM (+rSJz)
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Make it make sense to me.
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Relative humidity and barometric pressure can effect feelings.
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Relative humidity and barometric pressure can effect feelings.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (0kM66)
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UK has “free” health care.
We have Google, Apple, Tesla, Intel, Microsoft and 1000 others.
Pretty good trade off I’d say.
I saw a chart a few years ago to the effect that Home Depot is larger than any European company created post 1950.
We have Google, Apple, Tesla, Intel, Microsoft and 1000 others.
Pretty good trade off I’d say.
I saw a chart a few years ago to the effect that Home Depot is larger than any European company created post 1950.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (QZThv)
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But hey! They invented Legos!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:40 PM (2WIwB)
You gotta give it to them.
They've made crap ton of money off of those little plastic bricks.
You'd be hard-pressed to find any person born in the West in the last 60 years who hasn't played with Legos.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:40 PM (2WIwB)
You gotta give it to them.
They've made crap ton of money off of those little plastic bricks.
You'd be hard-pressed to find any person born in the West in the last 60 years who hasn't played with Legos.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:46 PM (6ydKt)
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I'm taking a Brit shooting Sunday. Told him we were going to asshole mountain and left it for him to figure out where that was.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ZxzYs)
The last time I took guests out shooting was a couple of years ago, Mom and I took my late step-father's Dutch nephew & family to the range. Semi-rural, conservative, and TALL. Their teen-age son was dying to shoot a gun for the first time, so we made a whole day of it. Everyone had a lot of fun, especially his mom, who REALLY got into it, surprising the hell out of all of us.
I'm taking a Brit shooting Sunday. Told him we were going to asshole mountain and left it for him to figure out where that was.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ZxzYs)
The last time I took guests out shooting was a couple of years ago, Mom and I took my late step-father's Dutch nephew & family to the range. Semi-rural, conservative, and TALL. Their teen-age son was dying to shoot a gun for the first time, so we made a whole day of it. Everyone had a lot of fun, especially his mom, who REALLY got into it, surprising the hell out of all of us.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2026 12:46 PM (FkdoK)
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Well Utah Beach wasn't held by apathetic Italians, but there were lots of "Osttruppen" and others impressed into Wehrmacht service, or lower quality volunteers, in that sector. Which helped make the operation quite a bit easier than Omaha.
At one point one unit had encountered so many non-German surrendering troops (they couldn't really communicate with them) that someone asked a senior officer back on the beach "just who are we fighting here, sir?".
I think this is where the famous Korean was taken prisoner, marking the end of his journey wherein he fought in 3 armies (Japanese, Soviet, and German).
At one point one unit had encountered so many non-German surrendering troops (they couldn't really communicate with them) that someone asked a senior officer back on the beach "just who are we fighting here, sir?".
I think this is where the famous Korean was taken prisoner, marking the end of his journey wherein he fought in 3 armies (Japanese, Soviet, and German).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 12:47 PM (U/Byj)
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You're all a bunch of whining pussies. When I get too warm I fly over to Mt Everest and climb it. It's much more temperate at 29,000 ft.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 06, 2026 12:47 PM (xIWcS)
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Is it just me or has this been an unusually cool Spring?
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: Diogenes
A lot of cool days, I say. At least it was 50 this morning. I brought a hibiscus back in overnight last weekend. It was only 42 deg last Sunday am and the damn potted plant weighs about 90 pounds.
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: Diogenes
A lot of cool days, I say. At least it was 50 this morning. I brought a hibiscus back in overnight last weekend. It was only 42 deg last Sunday am and the damn potted plant weighs about 90 pounds.
Posted by: Rex B at June 06, 2026 12:48 PM (rgnea)
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135 I have had trouble with forced air heat. It’s too dry. And dusty
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (0kM66)
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I saw a chart a few years ago to the effect that Home Depot is larger than any European company created post 1950.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (QZThv)
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The chart I saw was that the market cap of Home Depot is bigger than that of the 50 most successful EU startups in the last 50 years, combined.
I saw a chart a few years ago to the effect that Home Depot is larger than any European company created post 1950.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (QZThv)
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The chart I saw was that the market cap of Home Depot is bigger than that of the 50 most successful EU startups in the last 50 years, combined.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (O0L8i)
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Well, the Europeans invented Communism.
All the cool kids want some of that.
As Crowder likes to point out, Karl Marx was an enthusiastic user of the German version of the N word. If that were better known entire colleges full of septum-pierced young they/thems would be full of exploding heads, Scanners style.
All the cool kids want some of that.
As Crowder likes to point out, Karl Marx was an enthusiastic user of the German version of the N word. If that were better known entire colleges full of septum-pierced young they/thems would be full of exploding heads, Scanners style.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (QZThv)
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My paternal grandfather landed at Omaha. Infantryman. Never talked about it to me, but my oldest cousin tells me he told him and that I'll get the story when we meet up this summer.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (vV6n9)
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I saw a chart a few years ago to the effect that Home Depot is larger than any European company created post 1950.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (QZThv)
About the time they started down the road to the EU.
Europe has regulated themselves into this position because they can't control their socialist impulses.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:45 PM (QZThv)
About the time they started down the road to the EU.
Europe has regulated themselves into this position because they can't control their socialist impulses.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 06, 2026 12:50 PM (6ydKt)
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Is it just me or has this been an unusually cool Spring?
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (2WIwB)
Very cool. I'm inland PNW but today the high is only going to be 58 degrees.
I've only worn shorts twice for Geezer Golf.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (2WIwB)
Very cool. I'm inland PNW but today the high is only going to be 58 degrees.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 06, 2026 12:50 PM (xIWcS)
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As Mayor For Life, I will ban A/C in all residential and commercial properties, except for those operated by the City of Los Angeles. For the children.
Badda boop boop beep beep hey hey hey...bop bop dula be bop...
Badda boop boop beep beep hey hey hey...bop bop dula be bop...
Posted by: Karen Bass, Low IQ Mayor Of LA For Life at June 06, 2026 12:51 PM (z20w/)
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Europe has regulated themselves into this position because they can't control their socialist impulses.
More broadly, because they always listen to "experts".
More broadly, because they always listen to "experts".
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:51 PM (QZThv)
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To be fair to the Euros YouTube was created there and Google bought it. Spotify is Swedish. They have had a couple of things here and there. But compared to what’s come out of the US tech wise, it’s an afterthought.
Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them.
Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 12:51 PM (tNkpt)
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Lincolntf, I think redwoods are CA only, maybe some in southwestern OR?
Coast redwoods (sequoia sempervirens) are, duh, near the coast. Sequoias (sequoia gigantea) are at some elevation, and I'm pretty sure only in CA.
My reco is fly into SFO in late fall (only for tourism/people density, not foliage), head up to Sonoma, wine-taste, walk at the state redwood park near the Russian River, and enjoy the incredibly beautiful area. Then if you want to see the giants head down to Sequoia Nat. Park, which is a drive and different place to visit.
Coast redwoods (sequoia sempervirens) are, duh, near the coast. Sequoias (sequoia gigantea) are at some elevation, and I'm pretty sure only in CA.
My reco is fly into SFO in late fall (only for tourism/people density, not foliage), head up to Sonoma, wine-taste, walk at the state redwood park near the Russian River, and enjoy the incredibly beautiful area. Then if you want to see the giants head down to Sequoia Nat. Park, which is a drive and different place to visit.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 12:51 PM (U/Byj)
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. I have never been to the PNW, and I really want to see the giant Redwood/Sequoia trees. Where should we fly into, what time of year is best, etc.?
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (vV6n9)
I'll let Nurse add her part, but thought I'd put in my two cents. The Redwoods and Sequoias are native only to California, although you can begin to see redwoods along the very southern Oregon coast. A quick Google search can help you find places to visit. You could fly into Eugene OR and drive south, or I think Sacramento and drive north is probably a better choice.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:43 PM (vV6n9)
I'll let Nurse add her part, but thought I'd put in my two cents. The Redwoods and Sequoias are native only to California, although you can begin to see redwoods along the very southern Oregon coast. A quick Google search can help you find places to visit. You could fly into Eugene OR and drive south, or I think Sacramento and drive north is probably a better choice.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:52 PM (2WIwB)
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Here's one that will surprise you....and annoys me every time I'm in the UK or the EU:
Mixer faucets. In the US, the majority of sinks have mixer faucets...where you have one faucet that can be adjusted to the desired temperature. In the UK and the EU...and most other places for that matter....they have a cold faucet and a hot faucet, and you have to do the "slide hand wash"...Oh too HOT....slide over to the cold faucet...too cold, back over to the Hot faucet. It's annoying.
Mixer faucets. In the US, the majority of sinks have mixer faucets...where you have one faucet that can be adjusted to the desired temperature. In the UK and the EU...and most other places for that matter....they have a cold faucet and a hot faucet, and you have to do the "slide hand wash"...Oh too HOT....slide over to the cold faucet...too cold, back over to the Hot faucet. It's annoying.
Posted by: Orson at June 06, 2026 12:53 PM (dIske)
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"Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them."
Something about American Exceptionalism.
Something about American Exceptionalism.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:55 PM (+rSJz)
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Oh, shit. For some reason I always thought those giant trees were in OR/WA. I blame my 6th Grade Science teacher.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:55 PM (vV6n9)
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Lincolntf,
Redwoods are in northern CA.
The Olympic National Park in western WA has some pretty big trees and a temperate rain forest and a coastline to blow your mind. It is not a hot, sunny, sandy easy access beach with hotels every block. It is remote and cold and windy and rainy and rocky and there’s not a lot of options for overnight accommodations, if any.
Redwoods are in northern CA.
The Olympic National Park in western WA has some pretty big trees and a temperate rain forest and a coastline to blow your mind. It is not a hot, sunny, sandy easy access beach with hotels every block. It is remote and cold and windy and rainy and rocky and there’s not a lot of options for overnight accommodations, if any.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 12:56 PM (Krwog)
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Years ago I spent a summer in an old house in Shreveport (rent was free if I did maintenance) which didn’t have much AC, only two small window units, but which had an attic fan with the wind power of a DC3 engine. I’ve long wished I could find one like that again, I think it was built in the 30’s.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (3mtTi)
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As Crowder likes to point out, Karl Marx was an enthusiastic user of the German version of the N word. If that were better known entire colleges full of septum-pierced young they/thems would be full of exploding heads, Scanners style.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (QZThv)
Marx also was an unwashed moocher who lived off of Engels' family inheritance. Notorious for his noxious personal hygiene (Marx almost never bathed), it was so bad that he suffered from horrible rashes nearly his whole life.
As Crowder likes to point out, Karl Marx was an enthusiastic user of the German version of the N word. If that were better known entire colleges full of septum-pierced young they/thems would be full of exploding heads, Scanners style.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2026 12:49 PM (QZThv)
Marx also was an unwashed moocher who lived off of Engels' family inheritance. Notorious for his noxious personal hygiene (Marx almost never bathed), it was so bad that he suffered from horrible rashes nearly his whole life.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (FkdoK)
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250 years is a good run, but we are in a undeclared war with 1/3 of the country
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)
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Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (iTNuP)
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I'm tired of dealing with those window and wall A/C units. Maybe it's time to invest in a mini-split.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 06, 2026 12:58 PM (x/s3z)
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I'll let Nurse add her part, but thought I'd put in my two cents. The Redwoods and Sequoias are native only to California, although you can begin to see redwoods along the very southern Oregon coast. A quick Google search can help you find places to visit. You could fly into Eugene OR and drive south, or I think Sacramento and drive north is probably a better choice.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:52 PM (2WIwB)
There is a small stand of redwood trees in a beach park near Jericho Beach in Vancouver, B.C. I never knew that until a couple of months ago. Some are pretty big. I expect they were planted there over a century ago.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 12:52 PM (2WIwB)
There is a small stand of redwood trees in a beach park near Jericho Beach in Vancouver, B.C. I never knew that until a couple of months ago. Some are pretty big. I expect they were planted there over a century ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2026 12:58 PM (1z8ji)
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Thanks for the knowledge and the advice, Rhomboid and Diogenes. October is likely when we'll have an opportunity to go.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 12:58 PM (vV6n9)
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That reminds me of one of my favorite places in the Olympics - Hurricane Ridge, up above Anacortes. Absolutely breathtaking views. I think you could see Mt Olympus from there as I recall.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 06, 2026 12:59 PM (xIWcS)
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Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them.
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Who knows where the people's minds would go if they were set free. Regulation is a killer.
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Who knows where the people's minds would go if they were set free. Regulation is a killer.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:59 PM (0kM66)
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faucet and a hot faucet, and you have to do the "slide hand wash"...Oh too HOT....slide over to the cold faucet...too cold, back over to the Hot faucet. It's annoying.
Posted by: Orson
One of a few local NW inventions: the single handle faucet - Alfred Moen, Seattle.
Vinyl- (everybody's favorite albums?) - Waldo Semon Univ of WA. Let his name be the first name in synthetic rubber!
And compact disc technology - James Russell from Bremerton WA.
Posted by: Orson
One of a few local NW inventions: the single handle faucet - Alfred Moen, Seattle.
Vinyl- (everybody's favorite albums?) - Waldo Semon Univ of WA. Let his name be the first name in synthetic rubber!
And compact disc technology - James Russell from Bremerton WA.
Posted by: Rex B at June 06, 2026 01:00 PM (rgnea)
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Marx also was an unwashed moocher who lived off of Engels' family inheritance. Notorious for his noxious personal hygiene (Marx almost never bathed), it was so bad that he suffered from horrible rashes nearly his whole life.
His very name and the ideology he founded is a horrible rash on all of humanity.
His very name and the ideology he founded is a horrible rash on all of humanity.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 06, 2026 01:01 PM (xIWcS)
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Thanks, Nurse. I still can't get it out of my mind that the giant trees are in the PNW. Now I definitely have to go see them, even if it means entering the dreaded State of California (actually, San Diego was great).
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:02 PM (vV6n9)
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164 "Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them."
Something about American Exceptionalism.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:55 PM (+rSJz)
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Europe has a cultural history of monarchies and elites. They were, and are, the ones who made decisions and ran things.
America has a history of a pioneering spirit and rolling up our sleeves and getting shit done ourselves.
We are free enough to dare to try.
Something about American Exceptionalism.
Posted by: pawn at June 06, 2026 12:55 PM (+rSJz)
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Europe has a cultural history of monarchies and elites. They were, and are, the ones who made decisions and ran things.
America has a history of a pioneering spirit and rolling up our sleeves and getting shit done ourselves.
We are free enough to dare to try.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:03 PM (2WIwB)
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171 I'm tired of dealing with those window and wall A/C units. Maybe it's time to invest in a mini-split.
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Someone here was getting one, never heard the results. Have read they are no more fun than a window rattler. Noisy.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Someone here was getting one, never heard the results. Have read they are no more fun than a window rattler. Noisy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 01:04 PM (0kM66)
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Marx also was an unwashed moocher who lived off of Engels' family inheritance. Notorious for his noxious personal hygiene (Marx almost never bathed), it was so bad that he suffered from horrible rashes nearly his whole life.
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Sounds like the non-bathing was for a reason other than simply convenience or laziness.
Marx also was an unwashed moocher who lived off of Engels' family inheritance. Notorious for his noxious personal hygiene (Marx almost never bathed), it was so bad that he suffered from horrible rashes nearly his whole life.
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Sounds like the non-bathing was for a reason other than simply convenience or laziness.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2026 01:04 PM (iTNuP)
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California protected the hell out of a lot of their Redwoods. I lost 4 and my inlaws lost probaly close to 20 in a fire in Berry Creek a few years ago. I sold the land. Nothing there worth owning now.
Good thing they wouldn't let us harvest any. They wouldn't have been there to die in the fire.
Good thing they wouldn't let us harvest any. They wouldn't have been there to die in the fire.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 01:04 PM (ZxzYs)
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Europe is set up in a way to not allow entrepreneurs the opportunity to build a better mouse trap. The old guard companies are protected from any competition.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 01:04 PM (tNkpt)
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Lincolntf don't know your priors or druthers, but if you've never visited Sonoma, October is a great time. Sonoma's long past its prime (by my lights) of sleepy and informal, but still beautiful. In October you'll have dry heat inland, but beautiful ocean conditions out at the coast just a short drive away through the Russian River valley. Pop over the ridge to Anderson Valley for a beautiful quieter place, continue west and you hit a stand of coast redwoods. No more beautiful part of the US, and the food and wine are superb.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 01:05 PM (U/Byj)
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Marx abandoned his household, had child with housekeeper, abandoned all children.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)
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Europe has a cultural history of monarchies and elites. They were, and are, the ones who made decisions and ran things.
America has a history of a pioneering spirit and rolling up our sleeves and getting shit done ourselves.
We are free enough to dare to try.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:03 PM (2WIwB)
The notion of private property, including the right to your inventive and creative works and other fruits of your labor was perhaps the single greatest contributor to the concept of American Exceptionalism.
Of course enemies of America want to tax that into oblivion.
America has a history of a pioneering spirit and rolling up our sleeves and getting shit done ourselves.
We are free enough to dare to try.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:03 PM (2WIwB)
The notion of private property, including the right to your inventive and creative works and other fruits of your labor was perhaps the single greatest contributor to the concept of American Exceptionalism.
Of course enemies of America want to tax that into oblivion.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 01:06 PM (dK+Kv)
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Marx abandoned his household, had child with housekeeper, abandoned all children.
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)
Is that wrong?
- Aaahhnold
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)
Is that wrong?
- Aaahhnold
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 01:06 PM (tNkpt)
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One of a few local NW inventions: the single handle faucet - Alfred Moen,
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Mr. Moen, I'm sure that you are a nice guy but I can't stand your faucet.
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Mr. Moen, I'm sure that you are a nice guy but I can't stand your faucet.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 01:07 PM (0kM66)
Posted by: Arnold S from Austria at June 06, 2026 01:07 PM (EFkNq)
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Lincolntf San Diego is still tolerable, I guess, but only for the toughest of us. Well, more than tolerable actually.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 01:07 PM (U/Byj)
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All right, Rhomboid, that sounds exactly like the kind of trip we'd like. Wife has been to Sonoma when she was a kid, I've never been there.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:08 PM (vV6n9)
Posted by: Weasel at June 06, 2026 01:08 PM (PVV5z)
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> Someone here was getting one, never heard the results. Have read they are no more fun than a window rattler. Noisy.
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I had one installed in an office setting. The inside unit which has the heating coils and A/C condenser wasn't bad.... but the unit froze up a couple times and made a mess on the wall with the melting ice. The outside unit was real quiet. Inside unit too. If at full blast it could be annoying.
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I had one installed in an office setting. The inside unit which has the heating coils and A/C condenser wasn't bad.... but the unit froze up a couple times and made a mess on the wall with the melting ice. The outside unit was real quiet. Inside unit too. If at full blast it could be annoying.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 01:09 PM (jehhT)
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One of a few local NW inventions: the single handle faucet - Alfred Moen, Seattle.
Vinyl- (everybody's favorite albums?) - Waldo Semon Univ of WA. Let his name be the first name in synthetic rubber!
And compact disc technology - James Russell from Bremerton WA.
Posted by: Rex B at June 06, 2026 01:00 PM (rgnea)
And the dude (forgotten his name) who invented the little plastic thing (looks like a square guitar pick) that secures the bread bag was from Richland.
Vinyl- (everybody's favorite albums?) - Waldo Semon Univ of WA. Let his name be the first name in synthetic rubber!
And compact disc technology - James Russell from Bremerton WA.
Posted by: Rex B at June 06, 2026 01:00 PM (rgnea)
And the dude (forgotten his name) who invented the little plastic thing (looks like a square guitar pick) that secures the bread bag was from Richland.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:09 PM (2WIwB)
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It looks like the Intimidator, in his Black #3, has a new competitor to race.
Ned Jarrett passed away at 93.
Ned Jarrett passed away at 93.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 01:10 PM (qx7Zg)
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notion of private property, including the right to your inventive and creative works and other fruits of your labor was perhaps the single greatest contributor to the concept of American Exceptionalism.
Of course enemies of America want to tax that into oblivion.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,
Not just tax it but turn an entire ge station against it as well. The whole “work life balance” shit is the left sabotaging the American capitalist system.
I’m not saying everyone needs to work 80 hours a week. But the reason Google and Tesla and intel exist and are what they are, is because people worked long hours to make it happen. And were rewarded with unbelievable wealth for it.
Remove that incentive and the next Google or Amazon won’t be created.
Of course enemies of America want to tax that into oblivion.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,
Not just tax it but turn an entire ge station against it as well. The whole “work life balance” shit is the left sabotaging the American capitalist system.
I’m not saying everyone needs to work 80 hours a week. But the reason Google and Tesla and intel exist and are what they are, is because people worked long hours to make it happen. And were rewarded with unbelievable wealth for it.
Remove that incentive and the next Google or Amazon won’t be created.
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 01:10 PM (tNkpt)
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Air conditioning is the single reason I would never want to live in any other time period. Its my consistent answer when somebody says "yeah it would be cool to live in the roman days" Uh..no. "wow ancient egypt would be cool" Uh...no. Viking times would be killer, long houses and mead and.." Uh..no, I can buy mead and sit in my long house with the AC.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 06, 2026 01:11 PM (snZF9)
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Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (iTNuP)
Of course not. Car air conditioning belongs in the same hell as dashboard cup-holders. You Americans with your drinking-coffee-while-driving fetish are uncivilized savages.
Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2026 12:57 PM (iTNuP)
Of course not. Car air conditioning belongs in the same hell as dashboard cup-holders. You Americans with your drinking-coffee-while-driving fetish are uncivilized savages.
Posted by: The Germans at June 06, 2026 01:11 PM (FkdoK)
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Lincolntf - if you fly into Medford, OR you take I-5 north to Grants Pass then 199 southwest over the CA border towards Crescent City. You can find places to camp along the Smith River. Lots of redwoods in that area.
Posted by: PabloD at June 06, 2026 01:11 PM (K1RVP)
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Splits are the norm in Japan and many east Asian countries, I've always found them to be fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2026 01:12 PM (U/Byj)
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Rhomboid, we had an AirBnB cottage on the beach in Ocean Beach, and when I say "on the beach" I mean we couldn't access the place without walking in the sand. Volleyball constantly, dog walkers constantly, even roller bladers and skateboarders cruising around like it was 1988. We had a blast.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:12 PM (vV6n9)
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No one in movies takes Tuco's advice
When your going to shoot, shoot, don't talk
When your going to shoot, shoot, don't talk
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 01:12 PM (Ia/+0)
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"giant Redwood/Sequoia trees. ?"
Fly into Fresno or Bakersfield and visit Sequoia National Park.
Fly into Fresno or Bakersfield and visit Sequoia National Park.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 06, 2026 01:12 PM (qFwJc)
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Germany: drinking coffee while driving? Gross!!
Also Germany: we create the weirdest fetish porn your mind can conjure
Also Germany: we create the weirdest fetish porn your mind can conjure
Posted by: Heroq at June 06, 2026 01:13 PM (tNkpt)
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Paul Gaugin, the French artist, abandoned his wife and children and ran off to live with topless Polynesian girls. Then he sat around on the beach and drew pictures of them and said he was “working”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:13 PM (3mtTi)
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What rhomboid said @184.
Spot on.
Years ago I put the top down on the Beamer and started from Washington state and headed south on the coast highway. (101) drove all the way to Monterey. Dang! A fantastic drive. It is bucket list worthy.
Spot on.
Years ago I put the top down on the Beamer and started from Washington state and headed south on the coast highway. (101) drove all the way to Monterey. Dang! A fantastic drive. It is bucket list worthy.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:13 PM (2WIwB)
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Thanks Alberta and Pablo and everyone else who contributed to my trip-planning.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:15 PM (vV6n9)
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Years ago I put the top down on the Beamer and started from Washington state and headed south on the coast highway. (101) drove all the way to Monterey. Dang! A fantastic drive. It is bucket list worthy.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:13 PM (2WIwB)
In 2001, I loaded up my '62 Notchback and headed on down for my first job out of undergrad in Silicon Valley. Beautiful summer drive.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:13 PM (2WIwB)
In 2001, I loaded up my '62 Notchback and headed on down for my first job out of undergrad in Silicon Valley. Beautiful summer drive.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 01:16 PM (dK+Kv)
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Better get outside and do stuff
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 01:16 PM (Ia/+0)
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Thanks Alberta and Pablo and everyone else who contributed to my trip-planning.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:15 PM (vV6n9)
The Horde also excels at dating and medical advice.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:15 PM (vV6n9)
The Horde also excels at dating and medical advice.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:17 PM (2WIwB)
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Benicia ca used to have a good swap meet.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 06, 2026 01:19 PM (Kt19C)
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Speaking of entrepreneurship...I think a fortune could be made for anyone who invents a device that will blind a phones camera. Every riot has a couple causing trouble and a throng of assholes holding up cameras. Those clowns are half the problem. Someone needs to create a handheld laser or something like that to blind them.
I got this idea from some R&D the military was doing in the 80's. Technology today maybe could make it work.
I got this idea from some R&D the military was doing in the 80's. Technology today maybe could make it work.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:23 PM (2WIwB)
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> Years ago I put the top down on the Beamer and started from Washington state and headed south on the coast highway. (101) drove all the way to Monterey. Dang! A fantastic drive. It is bucket list worthy.
Posted by: Diogenes
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I used to commute from Monterey to Menlo Park on CA 1, 17 and 101. 100 miles one way.
Posted by: Diogenes
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I used to commute from Monterey to Menlo Park on CA 1, 17 and 101. 100 miles one way.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 01:24 PM (jehhT)
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Young people are back out on the streets in the major cities in Iran.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 01:25 PM (5P5DO)
Posted by: Lurking Loser at June 06, 2026 01:26 PM (nPp6w)
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In the category of Less Exciting Travel Plans, some Army buddies want to do a get-together this summer in Nashville, Indiana. Yes, Indiana. One of my firiends said "It's like miniature Gatlinburg!" as if that would entice me. I'll probably end up going, but I'll be a dick to the guys who picked the spot.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:26 PM (vV6n9)
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In the category of Less Exciting Travel Plans, some Army buddies want to do a get-together this summer in Nashville, Indiana. Yes, Indiana.
That sucks.
That sucks.
Posted by: And I Live in Indiana at June 06, 2026 01:29 PM (EFkNq)
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Heh heh heh
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2026 01:30 PM (vV6n9)
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Then he sat around on the beach and drew pictures of them and said he was “working”.
there should be a school for this
there should be a school for this
Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 06, 2026 01:30 PM (jrgJz)
Posted by: Marooned at June 06, 2026 01:34 PM (kt8QE)
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Almost any of the US highways in Nor Cal are really cool drives.
I do 70 from outside Reno to Lake Orroville quite a bit. 49 is awesome too. There are a lot of "truck routes" that can be really challenging if you're into that sort of thing.
I do 70 from outside Reno to Lake Orroville quite a bit. 49 is awesome too. There are a lot of "truck routes" that can be really challenging if you're into that sort of thing.
Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 01:39 PM (ZxzYs)
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Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
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Shockingly, they don't even have cup holders.
I discovered this after I went to a Danish restaurant with a friend and we casually said we'd take our coffee To Go. They looked at each other as if they didn't know English after all. In the end, they gave us our coffee in glasses with little paper covers they'd found somewhere, baffled but happy to be of service.
(Then we got out to the car and realized...)
Do cars sold in European have air conditioning?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Shockingly, they don't even have cup holders.
I discovered this after I went to a Danish restaurant with a friend and we casually said we'd take our coffee To Go. They looked at each other as if they didn't know English after all. In the end, they gave us our coffee in glasses with little paper covers they'd found somewhere, baffled but happy to be of service.
(Then we got out to the car and realized...)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:40 PM (n7rxJ)
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I have mini-split a/c. Very quiet and only need to run for a few minutes at a time. Can be set to do it automatically.
Posted by: free tibet at June 06, 2026 01:42 PM (iNp3L)
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Another climate-related thread that I can't relate to.
Staying at a relative's in SoCal. She lives in a cul-de-sac near the beach, and it's safe. We open the doors. AC! Close the doors. Warmth! It's enough to make you stay and fight for this state.
Another climate-related thread that I can't relate to.
Staying at a relative's in SoCal. She lives in a cul-de-sac near the beach, and it's safe. We open the doors. AC! Close the doors. Warmth! It's enough to make you stay and fight for this state.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:46 PM (n7rxJ)
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>>We'd just be living in homes with wide open windows with screens,
Window screens were arguably more important than A/C because they keep a lot of vermin out of the house.
Window screens were arguably more important than A/C because they keep a lot of vermin out of the house.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 06, 2026 01:46 PM (NcvvS)
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175 Europe simply doesn’t have the entrepreneurial mindset. There’s no Facebook created in a College dorm room in Berlin or Paris. It’s a foreign concept to them.
Posted by: Heroq
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Who knows where the people's minds would go if they were set free. Regulation is a killer.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:59 PM (0kM66)
Just this morning I watched a YouTube video from a guy who said he couldn't wait to get back to the US after living in France. He said the US is the "land of yes" in contrast to Europe's "land of no."
Posted by: Heroq
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Who knows where the people's minds would go if they were set free. Regulation is a killer.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 06, 2026 12:59 PM (0kM66)
Just this morning I watched a YouTube video from a guy who said he couldn't wait to get back to the US after living in France. He said the US is the "land of yes" in contrast to Europe's "land of no."
Posted by: The Patriarchy at June 06, 2026 01:47 PM (FMtrg)
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212 Speaking of entrepreneurship...I think a fortune could be made for anyone who invents a device that will blind a phones camera. Every riot has a couple causing trouble and a throng of assholes holding up cameras. Those clowns are half the problem. Someone needs to create a handheld laser or something like that to blind them.”
As you say, a handheld laser. The problem is that if it can do that to a camera, it can do the same to anyone’s eyes. People try to point lasers at helicopters and planes from time to time - not cool.
212 Speaking of entrepreneurship...I think a fortune could be made for anyone who invents a device that will blind a phones camera. Every riot has a couple causing trouble and a throng of assholes holding up cameras. Those clowns are half the problem. Someone needs to create a handheld laser or something like that to blind them.”
As you say, a handheld laser. The problem is that if it can do that to a camera, it can do the same to anyone’s eyes. People try to point lasers at helicopters and planes from time to time - not cool.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (3mtTi)
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Fun fact: Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard together invented a refrigerator that didn't require a pump. Einstein was inspired to design his invention when he read about a family that was asphyxiated in their home when their refrigerator's pump leaked out its coolant. (In those days, the most widely used coolant was ammonia.) However, the Einstein-Szilard refrigerator was too noisy and never went into production.
Posted by: Nemo at June 06, 2026 01:49 PM (4RPgu)
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Just this morning I watched a YouTube video from a guy who said he couldn't wait to get back to the US after living in France. He said the US is the "land of yes" in contrast to Europe's "land of no."
Posted by: The Patriarchy
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I saw that one! What a refreshing break from the channels of Americans fleeing fascist Trumpistan. (I get a train-wreck sort of thrill watching those.)
Just this morning I watched a YouTube video from a guy who said he couldn't wait to get back to the US after living in France. He said the US is the "land of yes" in contrast to Europe's "land of no."
Posted by: The Patriarchy
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I saw that one! What a refreshing break from the channels of Americans fleeing fascist Trumpistan. (I get a train-wreck sort of thrill watching those.)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:54 PM (n7rxJ)
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As you say, a handheld laser. The problem is that if it can do that to a camera, it can do the same to anyone’s eyes. People try to point lasers at helicopters and planes from time to time - not cool.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (3mtTi)
Exactly. There in lay the rub.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (3mtTi)
Exactly. There in lay the rub.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 01:54 PM (2WIwB)
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Staying at a relative's in SoCal. She lives in a cul-de-sac near the beach, and it's safe. We open the doors. AC! Close the doors. Warmth! It's enough to make you stay and fight for this state.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:46 PM (n7rxJ )
This is not intended to reflect on you of course, but it helps me clarify something I’ve been thinking for a while. For many who choose to live in SoCal, personal comfort is their highest goal. For many who choose to live in uncomfortably hot and humid Texas, personal comfort is trivial, while economic opportunity and personal freedom is paramount.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2026 01:46 PM (n7rxJ )
This is not intended to reflect on you of course, but it helps me clarify something I’ve been thinking for a while. For many who choose to live in SoCal, personal comfort is their highest goal. For many who choose to live in uncomfortably hot and humid Texas, personal comfort is trivial, while economic opportunity and personal freedom is paramount.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:54 PM (3mtTi)
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>>>I have mini-split a/c. Very quiet and only need to run for a few minutes at a time. Can be set to do it automatically.
Posted by: free tibet
>Window models kinda suck. They're seasonal. Put them in, take them out without damaging your back, and then there is sealing to keep the bug invasion out. Mini split, you just throw a tarp around the thing if you're concerned about the elements in the off season.
Posted by: free tibet
>Window models kinda suck. They're seasonal. Put them in, take them out without damaging your back, and then there is sealing to keep the bug invasion out. Mini split, you just throw a tarp around the thing if you're concerned about the elements in the off season.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 06, 2026 01:55 PM (x/s3z)
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Fun fact: Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard together invented a refrigerator that didn't require a pump. Einstein was inspired to design his invention when he read about a family that was asphyxiated in their home when their refrigerator's pump leaked out its coolant. (In those days, the most widely used coolant was ammonia.) However, the Einstein-Szilard refrigerator was too noisy and never went into production.
Posted by: Nemo at June 06, 2026 01:49 PM (4RPgu)
On first use-ta-fish, a prototype hull/reactor for the USS Narwhal (SSN-671) in Idaho, the plant had a steam powered A/C chiller that used a Bromine salt solution refrigerant, that by absorption of water, cooled the chilled water, as I recall, and steam was used to drive off the excess moisture, "recharging" the refrigerant.
One of the main drawbacks, as I recall was corrosion.
Posted by: Nemo at June 06, 2026 01:49 PM (4RPgu)
On first use-ta-fish, a prototype hull/reactor for the USS Narwhal (SSN-671) in Idaho, the plant had a steam powered A/C chiller that used a Bromine salt solution refrigerant, that by absorption of water, cooled the chilled water, as I recall, and steam was used to drive off the excess moisture, "recharging" the refrigerant.
One of the main drawbacks, as I recall was corrosion.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 01:56 PM (dK+Kv)
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you say, a handheld laser. The problem is that if it can do that to a camera, it can do the same to anyone’s eyes. People try to point lasers at helicopters and planes from time to time - not cool.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (3mtTi)
Exactly. There in lay the rub.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Handheld EMT maybe?🤔
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2026 01:48 PM (3mtTi)
Exactly. There in lay the rub.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Handheld EMT maybe?🤔
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 06, 2026 01:58 PM (VCgbV)
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Well. Things to do.
But first a shout out to my late Father-in-Law.
He fought in the Pacific and while he gave credit to the guys in Europe for D-Day, he had three D-Days of his own. Three different islands and the fighting was brutal.
RIP Al.
But first a shout out to my late Father-in-Law.
He fought in the Pacific and while he gave credit to the guys in Europe for D-Day, he had three D-Days of his own. Three different islands and the fighting was brutal.
RIP Al.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2026 02:00 PM (2WIwB)
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>>WHY THE BLOODY HELL DON'T WE HAVE THIS IN THE UK?
About 30 years ago, worked with a guy fresh from the UK (Newcastle-on-Tyne). He arrived in early December, and we were trying to scare him about Midwest winters. Had to translate from F to C, but he was amused that we thought he would have a problem with zero-degree Fahrenheit weather. After all, Newcastle got that cold at times almost every winter. In summer, it could even get up to thirty degrees Celsius! We translated. Um, Peter, in July here you can see forty degrees Celsius. (cont)
About 30 years ago, worked with a guy fresh from the UK (Newcastle-on-Tyne). He arrived in early December, and we were trying to scare him about Midwest winters. Had to translate from F to C, but he was amused that we thought he would have a problem with zero-degree Fahrenheit weather. After all, Newcastle got that cold at times almost every winter. In summer, it could even get up to thirty degrees Celsius! We translated. Um, Peter, in July here you can see forty degrees Celsius. (cont)
Posted by: Nazdar at June 06, 2026 02:00 PM (NcvvS)
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2/2
He looked at us and said, 'You're joking.' Fast forward to July; one of those mornings where the temp was around seventy and the humidity about the same. He came in looking melted. All he could say for about five minutes was, 'Thank God for air conditioning.'
He looked at us and said, 'You're joking.' Fast forward to July; one of those mornings where the temp was around seventy and the humidity about the same. He came in looking melted. All he could say for about five minutes was, 'Thank God for air conditioning.'
Posted by: Nazdar at June 06, 2026 02:02 PM (NcvvS)
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> peaking of entrepreneurship...I think a fortune could be made for anyone who invents a device that will blind a phones camera.
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People use some sort of laser, with specific power output, to disable Flock security/surveillance/ALPR cameras. A number of Redditors in that sub are quite militant about it too.
I find them to be a nuisance. The cameras. The Redditors are nutz.
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People use some sort of laser, with specific power output, to disable Flock security/surveillance/ALPR cameras. A number of Redditors in that sub are quite militant about it too.
I find them to be a nuisance. The cameras. The Redditors are nutz.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 02:06 PM (jehhT)
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I wouldn't sell the Brits short concerning inventions. James Watt designed the first steam engine. Years later the first steam locomotive was created in the UK...this, ultimately led to the industrial revolution.
America, excelled at the innovative applications of these fundamental inventions. We still do. Just look at what everyday items come out of the military and NASA.
America, excelled at the innovative applications of these fundamental inventions. We still do. Just look at what everyday items come out of the military and NASA.
Posted by: Orson at June 06, 2026 02:15 PM (dIske)
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I wouldn't sell the Brits short concerning inventions.
Just look at their current groundbreaking work on the Self Subjugating Subject. Amazing.
Just look at their current groundbreaking work on the Self Subjugating Subject. Amazing.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 02:29 PM (EFkNq)
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I wouldn't sell the Brits short concerning inventions.
Just look at their current groundbreaking work on the Self Subjugating Subject. Amazing.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 02:29 PM (EFkNq)
They killed off or drove away their most industrious lot.
Just look at their current groundbreaking work on the Self Subjugating Subject. Amazing.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 02:29 PM (EFkNq)
They killed off or drove away their most industrious lot.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 02:34 PM (dK+Kv)
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