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Hobby Thread - June 6, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is on target. It spun and spun and ended up deciding on an archery theme for this Hobby Thread.

A what? Yes, an archery thread. This is like the gun thread except with different launching apparatus and projectiles, less bang and boom, and no movies about the wonders of ball bearings. But fundamentals still matter...

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What are you hobbying?

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. We have a theme, but no need to stick with the theme. Even if the theme does not speak to you, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring a church). Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Depending on which unreliable source on the internet you consult, archery is one of the oldest acts of human engineering. It has prehistoric roots (based on cave paintings in Europe). In the Bronze Age (16th century) the Egyptians and Persians used bows in massed formations in military action. Following the invention and widespread adoption of firearms, archery became obsolete as a military weapon in the early 1600s.

Archery debuted at the 1900 Paris Olympics and dropped after 1920, and reinstated in 1972.

Is archery a hobby? Yes! Some throw arrows against targets for scoring. Others use bow and arrow as a hunting that offers different challenges than firearms.

Are you wise in the ways of the bow and arrow? Did you get a merit badge as a youth? Do you own bow and arrow equipment? Have you practiced your bow and arrow fundamentals? Have you made your own? Have you ever split an arrow with another arrow?

Are you a military history buff and know about military tactics in the days of mass archer formations?

Looking for a lot of help in the gray boxes for this one. TRex short arms are not a natural fit for archery. The small brain doesn't help either. Before commenting, make sure your bow is adjusted for the correct density altitude and your arrows are properly calibrated with the appropriate MOA setting.

If you're saying "I'm not an archer and I have no interest in learning," feel free to sit in the corner while the rest of the class continues. Or you can make contributions from your own (legal) hobbying.

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Good things to know if you find yourself in an Olympic archery contest:

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William Tell and the famous apple:

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Archery trick shots:

Turning arrows is apparently a thing:

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Watch Japanese craftsman make longbows:

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Artistic interlude - Hercules the Archer

Emile-Antoine Bourdelle sent his sculpture Herakles/Archer to the Paris Salon in 1909, where it was an instant success. The Chazen's Herakles/Archer is a reduction cast from the original life-size bronze now in Paris; after Bourdelle's death his widow authorized this edition of 15.

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Chazen Museum of Art, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI

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Too advanced for my small dino brain, but those of you who are wise in the ways of arrow science might appreciate this video:

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How far can an arrow fly?

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YouTube is made for answering the important historical questions.

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DIY bamboo bow:

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Arrows of a different kind:

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Horde Hobbying - tcn in AK is camping in Denali State Park, Alaska with her family. Camping is a hobby and Mt. McKinley provides a fine camping companion. Thank you!

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Thank you to the AK Sniper for modeling in the second photo.

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Not related to archery but I love this:

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did a music theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute your own. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 05:30 PM (Ia/+0)

2 As a young kid was shooting arrows with a bow, the arrow went from back yard at my grandfather's house, through a alley, across the street, hit a embankment which gave it a upward path and broke a window of house across the street. A couple hundred feet path of destruction. My grandfather had to repair the window.

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 05:36 PM (Ia/+0)

3 Hmmm...what could have inspired this content? 🤔

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2026 05:36 PM (Wnv9h)

4 3 Hmmm...what could have inspired this content? 🤔

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2026 05:36 PM
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The ways of the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) are sometimes less strange and mysterious than others.

Posted by: TRex - quivering dino at June 06, 2026 05:40 PM (DIYgl)

5 Way back in the day, my friends and I played a role-playing game called "Dangerous Journeys: Mythus" created by Gary Gygax (yes, that Gary Gygax) and Dave Newton.

One of the more exotic weapons was a "foot bow," essentially a long bow that need BOTH hands to draw back the string. You braced the bow with your feet when you drew the string back.

It had a terrible rate of fire (once every other round), but had an extreme range of 440 yards (about 1/4 mile). And armor was next to useless if you were hit with it at point blank range (40 yards or less).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2026 05:41 PM (gnNyN)

6 Not related to archery but I love this:
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Great coping mechanism (tracking flight ID). Lemons....lemonade. I'm sure the noise can be annoying, and he turned it into something that interests him.

This is likely the same type of innovative thinking that led to robotic vacuum cleaners. Vacuuming is annoying. Let's hire a circuit board.

Posted by: Orson at June 06, 2026 05:42 PM (dIske)

7 I've been bow hunting for 53 years, this fall.
I'm already wowed by the first tuning comments by Easton... 1" is pretty good...
Back to the video.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:44 PM (q6tQZ)

8 50 years ago... or so, I was at a YMCA camp and we were lerning (swidt) ballistics with bow and arrows. We were arranged on a cliff, looking down on a cleared crater and were told to figure out how to shoot an arrow up, and then have it hit the target.... a spray painted bedsheet.

Totes awesome.

Had my picture in the local paper.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2026 05:46 PM (jehhT)

9 The ways of the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) are sometimes less strange and mysterious than others.
Posted by: TRex - quivering dino at June 06, 2026 05:40 PM

*lays finger alongside nose*

*nods knowingly*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2026 05:49 PM (Wnv9h)

10 Love archery since I was a kid though I only like the recurve. Currently have a 60# take down Samick recurve.

I wish the Olympics / World Championships would have a bare recurve competition. No sites,no counter weights , etc.

Archery competitions are boring now as it's all tens and you just wait for the rare nine or eight hit to decide the match.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 05:50 PM (GseMx)

11 Afternoon, hobbyists,

The Herakles/Archer sculpture is amazing. You can feel the tremendous tension in the bow, in his body as he braces it against the rock, and in the (invisible) drawstring. Since Heracles, a demigod, was supposed to be the strongest man on Earth, I'd guess that his bow could not be drawn by any lesser mortals, only by gods.

The bow looks to be as tall as a full-grown man, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 05:51 PM (wzUl9)

12
The closest we've come to archery at Schloss Hadrian is naming one of our girls Diana (GCH Soyara's Dark Huntress).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 05:51 PM (O0L8i)

13 And... the Easton vid gave no results.
A-holes.
Initially, there were shooting multiple arrows with the exact same setup. Unreal. Any "shoot" has 5 different targets, so you don't get the Robin Hood effect.
They did, indeed, get the Robin Hood and were elated?
Jeebus

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:52 PM (q6tQZ)

14 In the Bronze Age (16th century) the Egyptians and Persians used bows

Uh, no. Sixteen centuries ago.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2026 05:52 PM (sl73Y)

15 Way back in the day, my friends and I played a role-playing game called "Dangerous Journeys: Mythus" created by Gary Gygax (yes, that Gary Gygax) and Dave Newton.

One of the more exotic weapons was a "foot bow," essentially a long bow that need BOTH hands to draw back the string. You braced the bow with your feet when you drew the string back.

It had a terrible rate of fire (once every other round), but had an extreme range of 440 yards (about 1/4 mile). And armor was next to useless if you were hit with it at point blank range (40 yards or less).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


The "How far can an arrow fly?" video above is about footbows.

The Guinness record holder launched one 2048 yards.

Posted by: mikeski at June 06, 2026 05:53 PM (VHUov)

16 Sixteen centuries BC ago.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2026 05:53 PM (sl73Y)

17 Love archery since I was a kid though I only like the recurve. Currently have a 60# take down Samick recurve.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 05:50 PM (GseMx)

Nice. I haven't shot in a while, but I have 20# and a 45# Bear recurve. And I have a project riser, TradTech Titan II, with 20# Samick limbs that I need to spend more time setting up. Too many projects.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 05:53 PM (dK+Kv)

18 Its getting fuzzy being so long ago, I think we had a archery class in gym in high school a couple times

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 05:55 PM (Ia/+0)

19 polynikes,
You're right. With sites, compounds, counterweights...it's like watching the State horseshoe contest. First guy who doesn't hit the ringer loses.
Boring

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:55 PM (q6tQZ)

20 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 05:51 PM (wzUl9)

I love the magic bow in the movie The Immortals with Henry Cavill. It was like Clint Eastwood's MP40 in Where Eagles Dare. Infinity magazines. Infinity arrows.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 05:55 PM (GseMx)

21 "Balls Out Archer" is an odd piece.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 06, 2026 05:56 PM (mEpiT)

22 I love the magic bow in the movie The Immortals with Henry Cavill. It was like Clint Eastwood's MP40 in Where Eagles Dare. Infinity magazines. Infinity arrows.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 05:55 PM (GseMx)
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Yeah, that was pretty crazy. At one point he shoots four arrows in a row THAT ALL HIT AT THE SAME TIME.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2026 05:57 PM (gnNyN)

23 My only experience with archery was during my camp counselor days *mumble* years ago. Much to my surprise, I really enjoyed it, even though (to no one's surprise) I was terrible at it. None of my campers shot each other or me so it was all good fun.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 06, 2026 05:58 PM (0SdQT)

24 I haven't done archery for many years, but I did pass a bunch of girls having lessons in archery in the park today, and it looked like they were concentrating and also having a lot of fun.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2026 05:58 PM (OYsYV)

25 Boring
Posted by: MkY

With that said, I had killed every deer I'd shot at for a few years in a row, and I had a buddy who had started deer hunting with a spear...
So, I bought a recurve. Shot about 100 times, said, "I'm good," and went out.
Shot 3 feet over a doe, 3 feet under her, then 3 feet in front of her.
She never moved.
Next night I had the compound again.
I think with a recurve one needs to shoot 1,000 arrows, and practice often.
I shoot maybe 20 arrow in practice every year with the compound.
I'm just not THAT into it.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (q6tQZ)

26 Always sucked at archery, but it was a fun event in elementary gym.

Posted by: RandomDave at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (aJQbY)

27 Good afternoon. Thanks for the Hobby thread, Dino.

Do you own bow and arrow equipment? Have you practiced your bow and arrow fundamentals? Have you made your own? Have you ever split an arrow with another arrow?
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Yes. Not yet this year - late summer/fall. Yes - several times.

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (41CYW)

28 Archery, the art of long distance stabbing.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (+9wcF)

29 [Removed for politics. This is the hobby thread. Terms and conditions apply. TRex]

Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2026 06:00 PM (GXEn7)

30 @22 Could have been a trick of the camera; Clint's MP40 magazine was attached to an extended magazine hidden in his pants.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 06, 2026 06:00 PM (mEpiT)

31
From where did the heathen savages in North America get bows and arrows?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 06:00 PM (O0L8i)

32 My love for archery came because I always wanted to be an Indian . Well not always. I also wanted to be Daniel Boone or Jim Bridger at one time or another. I just loved the idea of living in the wilderness.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:01 PM (GseMx)

33 Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2026 06:00 PM (GXEn7)

If Paul shot an arrow into the air, he'd miss.

Posted by: on-topic mikeski at June 06, 2026 06:02 PM (VHUov)

34 I had more time playing Jarts with my brother than using a bow and arrow while growing up. I don't think we intentionally tried to hit each other with them... but it's been a few decades, and my memory may not be correct.

I'm also a little surprised no one has mentioned the arrows Eisenhower launched across the English Channel on this day, 82 years ago.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 06:02 PM (qx7Zg)

35

Darrell Owen Pace (born October 23, 1956) is a former archer from the United States, who won two individual Olympic and World Championships titles each during his career. In 2011, as part of the World Archery Federation's 80th anniversary celebration, he was declared as by the WAF as "Archer of the Century"

Also an amateur radio operator N8FTS

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2026 06:04 PM (Cqx++)

36 Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (q6tQZ)

Hah very true. There is a cool bow hunting competition with various stations with various animal targets with greater points based on difficulty. I haven't seen it on TV for awhile though I don't have the outdoor channel anymore. Probably shown on ESPN Ocho 😀.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:06 PM (GseMx)

37 I enjoy archery in several different video games.

I love being an archer in Skyrim. Arrows are plentiful, cheap, and easy to craft (improving your Smithing skill).

You can snipe things from halfway across the map if you know what you are doing.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2026 06:07 PM (gnNyN)

38 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 06:02 PM (qx7Zg

Jarts are for you and your friends to bunch up and one guy throws all the jarts straight up in the air and it's every man for themselves. Young and Dumb ......and fun

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:09 PM (GseMx)

39 In the last month I’ve 3D printed enough busts to fill two complete monitor shelves.

I would say the best of them is Don Quixote and Charlemagne although Marcus Aerulius and Shakespeare are pretty good too.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 06, 2026 06:10 PM (XV/Pl)

40
Young and Dumb ......and fun

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:09 PM (GseMx)

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Kids were considered expendable back then.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 06:10 PM (O0L8i)

41 Obligatory Robin Hood: Men in Tights archery contest:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77nfYs433w

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2026 06:12 PM (gnNyN)

42 My brother recently bought a crossbow for those pesky, tasty whitetail in his yard. My other brother prefers his compound bow. I've had considerable experience with a bow, but I might consider the crossbow within a certain range.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 06, 2026 06:14 PM (x/s3z)

43 We had a bamboo grove next to my house as a kid.

We made bows and arrows of course. As well as kites, blow guns, snorkels, spears , whistles, cups, etc.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:14 PM (GseMx)

44 I've had considerable experience with a bow, but I might consider the crossbow within a certain range.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Picked up a crossbow last year - had a compound for a long time. Crossbow did the job, first day out.

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 06:16 PM (41CYW)

45 I would love to learn archery. I'm sort of a luddite, though, and I want that simple bow. Is that the recurve, vs. the compound?

Mr. Dmlw! got me one of those Chinese ones some years ago, but thought a 40# pull seemed right. I'm just a girl, ffs. I can barely move the string.

Need to get a different one I guess, and make the dogs stay inside while I play with it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:17 PM (h7ZuX)

46 Hi Horde Hobbyists!

I got hired one summer to be the archery merit badge counselor for one of the local Boy Scout camps. It was a hoot. The camp's equipment was marginal (at best). I had to get creative marking the distances to targets and even then had to develop a handicapping system. Whenever I needed to demonstrate something I used my own recurve. Halfway through camp someone loaned me his longbow and while I got hooked on the challenge of it I never could get as accurate with it as with my recurve.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 06:17 PM (FDHJL)

47 44 I've had considerable experience with a bow, but I might consider the crossbow within a certain range.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Picked up a crossbow last year - had a compound for a long time. Crossbow did the job, first day out.
Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 06:16 PM (41CYW

When I was 6 or 7 when they said bolts I didn't know what they were talking about for a long time.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:18 PM (GseMx)

48 I think we had a archery class in gym in high school a couple times
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 05:55 PM (Ia/+0)

I wish my school gym class had done that. It's one of the few things I might ever have liked about gym.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:20 PM (h7ZuX)

49 46 Hi Horde Hobbyists!

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 06:17 PM
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Hey stranger! Good to see you. Been a while!

Posted by: TRex - compound dino at June 06, 2026 06:20 PM (DIYgl)

50 This has given me an idea to do a painting on various fletching patterns.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:21 PM (GseMx)

51 I've got a PSE Stinger with a 55 lb pull. Three pin site, rear peep, release and front wrist strap. From 50 yards and in its pretty automatic on a static target.

Some like a challenge. Not me. I'll smash that easy button all day. Its great fun.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:23 PM (EFkNq)

52 Need to get a different one I guess, and make the dogs stay inside while I play with it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:17 PM (h7ZuX)

20# recurve is a pleasure to shoot.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 06:23 PM (dK+Kv)

53 Never got into archery as a hobby. It wasn't offered in high school or the local Boy Scout troop. I probably would have enjoyed it since it involved target shooting. As kids we tried making bows and arrows with a 'sorta' flexible tree branch and some string. If the twig that served as an arrow went 10 feet it was a success.

I do have a recurve bow and some target arrows that match my length of draw. It's a light bow, maybe 30 or 35 pound draw since it was for targets, not hunting. Never did much with it but should pick it up again if only for the exercise. Strengthening my back and shoulder muscles would have a lot of benefits.

Posted by: JTB at June 06, 2026 06:23 PM (yTvNw)

54 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:17 PM (h7ZuX)

Yeah 40# is pretty tough to pull back for a novice female archer. The 60# is probably too much for me now.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:25 PM (GseMx)

55 My other brother prefers his compound bow. I've had considerable experience with a bow, but I might consider the crossbow within a certain range.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I don't think the bow changes the range. Deer jump the arrow, regardless. 30 yds is pretty far.

I've read that over 40 or 50, the deer don't react, but I can't see myself even trying a shot like that.
To me, deer hunting is up close and personal, capisce?

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:25 PM (q6tQZ)

56 Does an atlatl count? I’ve toyed with an atlatl several times. It’s quite challenging.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 06:25 PM (TLhHb)

57 maybe 30 or 35 pound draw
JTB

Fred Bear famously said any North American game animal could be brought down with a 35# draw.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:27 PM (q6tQZ)

58 Some like a challenge. Not me. I'll smash that easy button all day. Its great fun.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:23 PM (EFkNq)

Yeah, I think that would work for me, too. Easy, at least until I get some skillz.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:27 PM (h7ZuX)

59 Fred Bear famously said any North American game animal could be brought down with a 35# draw.
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:27 PM (q6tQZ)

Close up and personal.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:28 PM (GseMx)

60 Does an atlatl count? I’ve toyed with an atlatl several times. It’s quite challenging.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Legal for deer in Missouri.
Wanna hunt?

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:28 PM (q6tQZ)

61 Thanks for the mighty archery Hobby Thread, T Rex!

My brother was an archer in his younger days, bagging mule deer and carp. It is truly an art form!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 06, 2026 06:29 PM (D/6p1)

62 So, is it the length/gauge of the string that determines the pull strength? Or the bow itself? If I got a lighter string, would it work on the same bow?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:30 PM (h7ZuX)

63 Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:28 PM (q6tQZ)

That a cave man allegedly created it 15000 years ago makes me think aliens may be real.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:30 PM (GseMx)

64 Yeah, I think that would work for me, too. Easy, at least until I get some skillz.

So here's the deal. Don't get too much pull - just what is comfortable to you. The beauty of a compound bow - with a site, peep, release, and strap - is it takes ALL hand shake and other involuntary tremors out of the equation. Because your muscles are in slight tension.

Just practice a slow steady squeeze on that release - just like Jeff Cooper taught on a trigger. You simply will not miss at the end of the first day of practice.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:31 PM (EFkNq)

65 61 My brother was an archer in his younger days, bagging mule deer and carp.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 06, 2026 06:29 PM
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Thanks for mentioning carp. I had a video of bow and arrow fishing that got left out of the content for space considerations but it warrants a mention.

Posted by: TRex - carp, not crap at June 06, 2026 06:32 PM (afA7R)

66 So, is it the length/gauge of the string that determines the pull strength? Or the bow itself? If I got a lighter string, would it work on the same bow?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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On a compound, you can adjust the draw weight. Adjustment bolts on the risers or limbs.

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 06:32 PM (41CYW)

67 On a compound its the position at rest of the cams. The cams act as springs.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:33 PM (EFkNq)

68 23 None of my campers shot each other or me so it was all good fun.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 06, 2026 05:58 PM
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The definition of success for a camp counselor.

Posted by: TRex - summer camper dino at June 06, 2026 06:33 PM (afA7R)

69 So, is it the length/gauge of the string that determines the pull strength? Or the bow itself? If I got a lighter string, would it work on the same bow?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:30 PM (h7ZuX)

1st - bow itself.
2nd and to a much smaller degree, string length and twist. But strings are sized to the bow, then they are twisted to achieve the proper set up, and the draw weight is near what the nominal draw weight is as specified on the bow.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 06:34 PM (dK+Kv)

70 If you ever tried to draw back a 80-100# bow it's hard to believe the battle longbows in medieval times were 100# up to 185#.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:34 PM (GseMx)

71 The above is for recurve.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 06:35 PM (dK+Kv)

72 So, is it the length/gauge of the string that determines the pull strength? Or the bow itself? If I got a lighter string, would it work on the same bow?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Recurve poundages are all measured at 28".
Each person has their own "draw length". Shops take a very light bow, and have you pull the string, hand close to your mouth. When the string touches your nose, that's your draw length.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:35 PM (q6tQZ)

73 Back in the 80's when we would do Live Action Roll Playing we allowed under 30# bows with "bunny bumper" arrowheads as a weapon. Had a friend build some which pretty much were a round piece of cardboard taped on the end of an arrow. He launched one at a dude and nailed him at a 45° angle in the temple. The arrow went around the cardboard and about an inch into the dudes head. Rolled the skin in with it.
We go to the emergency room, dressed in period, 1350's, costume and covered in blood. Dude is holding a blood soaked grease rag on the side of his head.
"We need to see a doctor"
"Fill this out"
"Lady. I've been shot in the head with an arrow"
Dude puls the rag down and blood goes everywhere.
He got in pretty quick. 13 stiches and a really cool story complete with the scar.

Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 06:36 PM (ZxzYs)

74 That a cave man allegedly created it 15000 years ago makes me think aliens may be real.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026


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A pre-teen Cro-Magnon boy finds a sturdy vine. He ties it to a branch of one tree, and then to a nearby branch. He swings on it and does pull-ups. Then it occurs to him that the vine has some give, but not much, when he puts his weight on it. He wraps a rock in a piece of hide, pulls back the steadily resistant vine, puts the hide-wrapped rock inside it, and lets the vine go.

The rock flies twenty yards and smashes the face of the boulder it hits. Wow!

Dad sees this and goes, Hmmmm. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 06:36 PM (wzUl9)

75 So, I bought a recurve. Shot about 100 times, said, "I'm good," and went out.
Shot 3 feet over a doe, 3 feet under her, then 3 feet in front of her.
She never moved.
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 05:59 PM (q6tQZ)


The Lord spake, "Verily, I saith unto you, this is not your time, my deer. None shall feast on your flesh this day, nor even touch a single hair." And he set his angels around the doe, above her, beneath her, before her and behind her, and to each side; and though her foe strove mightily, she stood sure in the safety of His hand, and did not even flinch as arrows flew.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 06:38 PM (Sy6m/)

76 SciVo

Har!

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:38 PM (q6tQZ)

77 If you ever tried to draw back a 80-100# bow it's hard to believe the battle longbows in medieval times were 100# up to 185#.
Posted by: polynikes
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Very true. My compound is at 72# (I need to drop it down - not as strong as I used to be). Have pulled 80# and damnnnn... it was a lot. Guy that owned that bow is 6' 4" and goes about 270lbs.

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 06:38 PM (41CYW)

78 The sling can be deadly and I can see some bored guy with no internet lights tv motorcars etc getting pretty good with one.

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 06:39 PM (vFG9F)

79 He got in pretty quick. 13 stiches and a really cool story complete with the scar.
Posted by: Reforger

Great story.
"Why women live longer than men."

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:40 PM (q6tQZ)

80 Picked up a crossbow last year - had a compound for a long time. Crossbow did the job, first day out.

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It surprised the shit out of me.

Posted by: Zombie Richard I at June 06, 2026 06:41 PM (jcKbQ)

81 Have pulled 80# and damnnnn... it was a lot. Guy that owned that bow is 6' 4" and goes about 270lbs.
Posted by: scampydog

I bought my "new" bow in '06. Set it to 72 #'s.
It's now at 62#'s, and I've never touched the 20 yard pin.
A lot of that crap is bragging rights.

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:41 PM (q6tQZ)

82 1st - bow itself.
2nd and to a much smaller degree, string length and twist.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 06, 2026 06:34 PM (dK+Kv)

Thanks. Better get a different bow.

One reason I want to learn is because if shit ever hits the fan so hard there's no more ammo, I can always make more arrows.

But also, it looks like fun to me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:42 PM (h7ZuX)

83 I used to impress Cub Scouts with my ability to use a homemade slingshot to put a chickpea thru an aluminum pie plate at 10 feet.

Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 06:42 PM (vFG9F)

84 77 If you ever tried to draw back a 80-100# bow it's hard to believe the battle longbows in medieval times were 100# up to 185#.
Posted by: polynikes

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Pffft.

Posted by: Odysseus at June 06, 2026 06:43 PM (jcKbQ)

85 I used to impress Cub Scouts with my ability to use a homemade slingshot to put a chickpea thru an aluminum pie plate at 10 feet.
Posted by: fd

You do that here, and you could drink all night for free.

Well, maybe a few demos n shit...

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:43 PM (q6tQZ)

86 The sling can be deadly and I can see some bored guy with no internet lights tv motorcars etc getting pretty good with one.
Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026 06:39 PM (vFG9F)

There are YouTube vids of the world champion slinger. Pretty impressive.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:44 PM (GseMx)

87 That a cave man allegedly created it 15000 years ago makes me think aliens may be real.
Posted by: polynikes

Nah. I hate that people always want to give credit to "aliens" for man's own ingenuity.

Posted by: Tuna at June 06, 2026 06:45 PM (lJ0H4)

88 A lot of that crap is bragging rights.

Yep. I was bag shooting at 50 yds in my back yard. Drew, on target, but shifted my weight.

Right into a mole hole.

Missed the bag. Blunt tip went part through a 3" sapling. 55# pull.

I see no need to increase the pull.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:45 PM (EFkNq)

89 I bought my "new" bow in '06. Set it to 72 #'s.
It's now at 62#'s, and I've never touched the 20 yard pin.
A lot of that crap is bragging rights.
Posted by: MkY
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I am thinking around 60#. Drew it last year while sitting on a chair and said...nope, time to adjust this.

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2026 06:46 PM (41CYW)

90 Nah. I hate that people always want to give credit to "aliens" for man's own ingenuity.
Posted by: Tuna at June 06, 2026 06:45 PM (lJ0H4)

I was being snarky but it is an impressive lever 'machine' .

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:49 PM (GseMx)

91 I was being snarky but it is an impressive lever 'machine' .

Using natural glues and various woods to make laminates always impresses me.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:50 PM (EFkNq)

92 He got in pretty quick. 13 stiches and a really cool story complete with the scar.
Posted by: Reforger

Great story.
"Why women live longer than men."
Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:40 PM (q6tQZ)

At least it was in the temple, and not the groin. Imagine how much fun he could have gotten out of the extra long erection, and not waiting 4 hours for medical help.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 06, 2026 06:50 PM (qx7Zg)

93 I was being snarky but it is an impressive lever 'machine' .

The guy who invented it was probably run out of town... ala Heinlein quote

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 06:51 PM (q6tQZ)

94 91 I was being snarky but it is an impressive lever 'machine' .

Using natural glues and various woods to make laminates always impresses me.
Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 06:50 PM (EFkNq)

Me too. In this case though we were talking about the atlatl.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 06:53 PM (GseMx)

95 One reason I want to learn is because if shit ever hits the fan so hard there's no more ammo, I can always make more arrows.

But also, it looks like fun to me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:42 PM (h7ZuX)


I think the second is a better reason, because unless you're shooting wildly into the dark, it should be pretty easy to buy more ammo than you would survive using in a contested environment. That is to say, how many times do you really think you can shoot at someone who can shoot back, before getting hit and dying?

I think preppers with even 'just' a thousand rounds are wildly optimistic, even if you count them as intended for hunting. How long would it take before a successful hunter would have to use them for defense against the unsuccessful? And as soon as bullets start flying in the wrong direction, it's just a matter of accuracy ratios times volume of fire and the dreaded Statistical Probability, since no one is perfect.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 06:54 PM (Sy6m/)

96 Storm coming through

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 06:54 PM (Ia/+0)

97 Said didn't have internet access but seems do,
Tv is out

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 06:55 PM (Ia/+0)

98
Unbelievable. The Kentucky Derby has "My Old Kentucky Home,: the Preakness "Maryland, My Maryland." Dignified, even moving.

The Belmont? "New York, New York". Cheesy and smug. But typical of the whole benighted place.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 06:56 PM (O0L8i)

99 unless you're shooting wildly into the dark, it should be pretty easy to buy more ammo than you would survive using in a contested environment.
Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 06:54 PM (Sy6m/)

Well, yeah, but I was thinking more of an apocalyptic scenario where there is no ammo left to buy, a fond memory. You know. As if I would survive such a scenario in the first place.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:56 PM (h7ZuX)

100
As for Sinatra, I liked him as an actor, but hated him.as a singer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 06:58 PM (O0L8i)

101 As for Sinatra, I liked him as an actor, but hated him.as a singer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 06:58 PM (O0L8i)

I didn't like him as either but his couple of Tony Roma movies were enjoyable. Much more than Dean Marin's cheesy Matt Helm movies and I really like Dean Martin.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:01 PM (GseMx)

102 I'm seeing more stories about increased interest and use in non-technical hobbies, especially ones involving creativity. In this case the stories are about fountain pens and manual typewriters. Pen sales are up noticeably and the price of good condition old typewriters is climbing. Various reasons are given: distrust of digital technology and its ephemeral nature, some nostalgia, a variation of LPs over CDs or streaming, fewer distractions imposed by digital media, more personal hands-on activity instead of relying on AI and computers and probably others. Even articles about improving one's handwriting.

Since I like fountain pens and manual typewriters, I find this hopeful. It's not a huge movement but, from my point of view, it's a step in the right direction.

Posted by: JTB at June 06, 2026 07:01 PM (yTvNw)

103 Well, yeah, but I was thinking more of an apocalyptic scenario where there is no ammo left to buy, a fond memory.

Go get a compound bow. You can always buy a case of arrows. Unless you screw up and put one through a tree like I did - you can reuse them.

And unlike ammo - you don't need to scavenge a particular calibre of arrow.

Most important ... as said above ... you'll like practicing. Trust me.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 07:01 PM (EFkNq)

104 The sling can be deadly and I can see some bored guy with no internet lights tv motorcars etc getting pretty good with one.
Posted by: fd at June 06, 2026


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The natives of the Balearic Islands were renowned as expert slingers, and were often recruited as auxiliaries in the Roman Republican and Imperial armies.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:03 PM (wzUl9)

105 No need to buy a silencer with a bow and arrow

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 07:04 PM (Ia/+0)

106
Golden Tempo wins it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2026 07:04 PM (O0L8i)

107 Well, yeah, but I was thinking more of an apocalyptic scenario where there is no ammo left to buy, a fond memory. You know. As if I would survive such a scenario in the first place.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 06:56 PM (h7ZuX)


Oh that! Well, I have actually gotten off all prescriptions, which is the biggest thing I think for most people. But getting an apple orchard so I can make my own hard cider in TEOTWAWKI is still just a pipe dream, and I don't even have a pipe either so I don't know what that means.

As a LitRPG fan, I like the idea of learning skills that seem impractical in the modern era, just in case of an Isekai, Portal Event, or (worst of all) System Apocalypse. I'm actually thinking of.. well, it's a business idea, so I won't go into details. But a resource for people like me, who might want to be prepared for the wildly unlikely.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 07:07 PM (Sy6m/)

108 I didn't like him as either but his couple of Tony Roma movies were enjoyable. Much more than Dean Marin's cheesy Matt Helm movies and I really like Dean Martin.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026


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The Tony Rome pictures I've seen recently on Movies!, and they were quite good examples of the private-eye film. Both were based on novels by Marvin Albert. He wrote the novel that the John Wayne flick The Law and Jake Wade was based on, and the one the James Garner vehicle Duel at Diablo came from.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:08 PM (wzUl9)

109 My hobby today is tearing up the utility trailer floor seven 2x8. and four 2x6 and 12 feet long. replacing with treated. Probably outlast me.

Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 07:09 PM (LHPAg)

110 100 ... "As for Sinatra, I liked him as an actor, but hated him.as a singer."

I liked Sinatra's song choices more than his arrangements. I did enjoy his acting, especially in musicals like Guys and Dolls and Take Me Out to the Ballgame. His guest appearance on Magnum, PI was really good.

Posted by: JTB at June 06, 2026 07:09 PM (yTvNw)

111 I'm actually thinking of.. well, it's a business idea, so I won't go into details.

People already do Combat Shooting camps. Tactical Combat camps. There is a real market for these kind of experiences.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 07:10 PM (EFkNq)

112 Posted by: JTB at June 06, 2026 07:01 PM (yTvNw)

I was thinking what is the percentage of people who know how to field dress game or butcher any farm animal. What are the percentage of farmers and hunters ( minus farmers) is probably the number.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:11 PM (GseMx)

113 Oh that! Well, I have actually gotten off all prescriptions, which is the biggest thing I think for most people. But getting an apple orchard so I can make my own hard cider in TEOTWAWKI is still just a pipe dream, and I don't even have a pipe either so I don't know what that means.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 07:07 PM (Sy6m/)

Good thinking! My only prescription is for hypothyroidism, so in the event I'm still here for TEOTWAWKI, I'll just be fat and angry. Which could be a plus.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:12 PM (h7ZuX)

114 Oops. No, The Law and Jake Wade was a Robert Taylor film. I was thinking of Wayne's Big Jake, which by a strange coincidence is on Movies! right now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:14 PM (wzUl9)

115 I was thinking of Wayne's Big Jake, which by a strange coincidence is on Movies! right now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:14 PM (wzUl9

I liked Big Jake. I think John Wayne's son was a pretty good actor. I'm surprised he didn't become bigger.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:16 PM (GseMx)

116 Good thinking! My only prescription is for hypothyroidism, so in the event I'm still here for TEOTWAWKI, I'll just be fat and angry. Which could be a plus.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:12 PM (h7ZuX)
Me too. The levothyroxine worries me more than the BP meds.

Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (LHPAg)

117 I liked Sinatra's song choices more than his arrangements. I did enjoy his acting, especially in musicals like Guys and Dolls and Take Me Out to the Ballgame. His guest appearance on Magnum, PI was really good.
Posted by: JTB at June 06, 2026


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As an actor, Frank was usually impressive, even in lightweight films. When he really had something to bite into, like The Man With the Golden Arm and Manchurian Candidate, he was great.

I've often thought, if a script like that of Die Hard had been around in, say, 1960, Sinatra would not have been a bad choice to play the lead. Remember, the novel DH is based on is a sequel to the 1964 novel The Detective, and Sinatra played the lead in the 1966 film of that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (wzUl9)

118 Me too. The levothyroxine worries me more than the BP meds.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (LHPAg)

Truly!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:19 PM (h7ZuX)

119 I liked Big Jake. I think John Wayne's son was a pretty good actor. I'm surprised he didn't become bigger.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026

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Big Jake
was co-written by the fellow who with his wife created Dirty Harry, Harry Julian Fink -- who wrote some of the best and most memorable Have Gun -- Will Travels. And Richard Boone looks to be having great fun as a rather jolly and deadly killer, kidnapper, and train robber.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:20 PM (wzUl9)

120 >49 Hey stranger! Good to see you. Been a while!

Good to "See" you too, TRex! I've been enjoying the hobby threads, keep up the great work!

I picked up RV camping as a hobby and was trying to complete a couple classes on research while managing the RV acquisition and camping trips.

Just to stay on-topic, I haven't exactly figured out how to carry the archery equipment in the limited amount of space in the RV.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:20 PM (FDHJL)

121 Me too. The levothyroxine worries me more than the BP meds.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (LHPAg)

I would need BP meds for the first time because my salt intake would be through the roof. Freezed dried food and canned goods not low in sodium.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:21 PM (GseMx)

122 Learned so shoot a bow as kid. I figured out how to hit things.
When compound bows first came out I visited my BIL an he said "Want to try this compound bow I just got?
Sur and we go back to the backyard. He has a couple bales with a target on them. I draw The 80 lb bow and the 50% beak is heaven, I figure it'll have a flat trajectory and let fly. I missed the target but hit the bales just right of paper. I asked for another arrow and he took the bow back. He said " The first time I missed the bales....We laughed about it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2026 07:22 PM (IP7s4)

123 120 I picked up RV camping as a hobby and was trying to complete a couple classes on research while managing the RV acquisition and camping trips.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:20 PM
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If it helps, we did an RV theme on the Hobby Thread in November 2025.

https://tinyurl.com/wthubhzh

Posted by: TRex - recreational dino at June 06, 2026 07:23 PM (afA7R)

124 >60 MkY Legal for deer in Missouri.
Wanna hunt?

The ONLY deer I've gotten ever was with my aforementioned recurve and in eastern Missouri.

Unfortunately bowhunting is not legal where I hang my hat these days.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:23 PM (FDHJL)

125 I'm not sure how Sinatra comes in here, but as a Mark Tremonti fan, I found it interesting him talking about how he put together a covers album. He's best known as a rock lead guitarist, but he also has his own metal projects where he sings too; and singing along to Sinatra in the car, one thing led to another...

Rick Beato Interviews Mark Tremonti: Creed and Alter Bridge's Post-Grunge Guitar Hero
https://youtu.be/CClsbAY9-cM

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 07:24 PM (Sy6m/)

126 Does an atlatl count? I’ve toyed with an atlatl several times. It’s quite challenging.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2026 06:25 PM (TLhHb)


Little Glass Butte has an annual knap in for learning to knap obsidian and making and using primitive tools. There is supposed to be competitions on atlatls. It was something I always considered going to when I was driving regularly from the Willamette Valley to Ontario Oregon.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2026 07:24 PM (rbvCR)

127 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here and reading/contributing. New theme next week.

You're welcome to hang out here for a while but don't forget to check back in later for Club ONT.

Posted by: TRex - archer dino at June 06, 2026 07:25 PM (afA7R)

128 Whoever said it above, you're right. With bow n arrow you don't need suppressors.
And a "quiet" .22 (subsonic) ain't gonna get you naught but a rabbit or squirrel.
Maybe groundhog if you're real hungry...

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 07:25 PM (q6tQZ)

129 Archery. What fun. Started shooting at an early age and have always enjoyed it.
I would like to get a crossbow.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:25 PM (5P5DO)

130 As for pipe smoking, JTB and other interested parties: I've been mixing a little strong Virginia, Peterson's Irish Flake, in with other milder Virginia blends and into burleys. Just a tiny pinch, now; the IF is *powerful* stuff. Enlivens a milder blend just enough for a wake-up smoke.

I still have a tin of Briar Fox, a couple tins of Mac Baren blends (RIP), and a new one of Peterson's My Mixture 965 English, all unopened. I used to smoke the Sutliff blend made as a cheaper match for it, but that product is gone. Though I did see a jar marked as "MM 965 Match" on the shelf at the Country Squire in Jackson, MS, in late April. If you called them maybe you could order some.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:26 PM (wzUl9)

131 TV went out again

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2026 07:26 PM (Ia/+0)

132 Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2026 07:24 PM (rbvCR)

Have you ever started a fire with using natural friction tools?

Haven't tried since I was a teenager but never did succeed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:26 PM (GseMx)

133 Just to stay on-topic, I haven't exactly figured out how to carry the archery equipment in the limited amount of space in the RV.
Posted by: SPinRH_F-16

Same space as a gun case. On top?

Posted by: MkY at June 06, 2026 07:27 PM (q6tQZ)

134 "TV went out again
Posted by: Skip "

I'll be back in a bit.

Posted by: The Twonky at June 06, 2026 07:27 PM (vFG9F)

135 JTB, I clean the 50 to 75 lb pigs I shoot. Rabbits and game birds too.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:28 PM (5P5DO)

136 I've often thought, if a script like that of Die Hard had been around in, say, 1960, Sinatra would not have been a bad choice to play the lead. Remember, the novel DH is based on is a sequel to the 1964 novel The Detective, and Sinatra played the lead in the 1966 film of that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (wzUl9)


I did not know that! I will have to check it out.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 07:28 PM (Sy6m/)

137 I saw the top pic and thought "That's a nice fanart of Link".

Then I noticed the kilt and the pyramid and thought "Oh it's just a silhouette of an Egyptian archer."

Still a very nice pic.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 06, 2026 07:28 PM (C0Nlv)

138 SPinRH, great to see you. Hope you are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:30 PM (5P5DO)

139 Fred Bear is pretty much the reason for modern archery. He dedicated his life to innovating and promoting it.

Posted by: Reforger at June 06, 2026 07:30 PM (ZxzYs)

140 I have four bows (two compound, two recurve) and a range below my house overlooking the creek. It's a wonderful way to relax at the end of the day.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 06, 2026 07:31 PM (pE12i)

141 Did anyone here recommend I paint a landscape of Hocking Hills in Ohio?

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:31 PM (GseMx)

142 Should we include an archery target to the TXMOME?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:32 PM (5P5DO)

143 Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 06, 2026 07:31 PM (pE1

I'm jealous.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:32 PM (GseMx)

144 I've often thought, if a script like that of Die Hard had been around in, say, 1960, Sinatra would not have been a bad choice to play the lead. Remember, the novel DH is based on is a sequel to the 1964 novel The Detective, and Sinatra played the lead in the 1966 film of that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026
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I did not know that! I will have to check it out.
Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026


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SciVo, the novel is called Nothing Lasts Forever, from 1979 or so, by Roderick Thorp. It is short and fast-moving, much better than Thorp's previous novel about former cop-now private investigator Joe Leland . . . and nearly all the action scenes from the DH film are right there in the novel. It's amazing.

The film of The Detective is much better than the novel, which is slow and filled with elliptical prose so that I had trouble figuring out what was going on. Nothing Lasts Forever is much better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:33 PM (wzUl9)

145 141 Did anyone here recommend I paint a landscape of Hocking Hills in Ohio?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:31 PM (GseMx)

I might have, being from there and all. Did you find some nice pictures of it?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)

146 142 Should we include an archery target to the TXMOME?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:32 PM (5P5DO)

Yes!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)

147 nood movies

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 06, 2026 07:35 PM (C0Nlv)

148 The natives of the Balearic Islands were renowned as expert slingers, and were often recruited as auxiliaries in the Roman Republican and Imperial armies.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:03 PM (wzUl9)


I have made and used slings, but I am not a good shot with them. I made my first one from a description and it was good enough to fling eggs at a tree, but I started making them from hunks of scrap leather and 550 cord which worked and is more satisfactory for me.
I think the trick is to not try practicing at your best, hardest throw, try 25 feet against a wall to find your range. There are a number of ways to throw, from lobbing underhand to the classic spin and whip.

I used one to practice with to limber up my shoulder after it was screwed back together after a bad break, and the best I can claim is that I mostly hit the river I was throwing at. I can also brag that when I was done, all the roundish rocks were off the shore and back in the river again.
If you use those flat or long rocks, you can get one heck of a spiraling keyhole in flight, and they make the oddest moaning noise going down range.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2026 07:35 PM (rbvCR)

149 I hate movies.

Posted by: Ronster at June 06, 2026 07:36 PM (XKmOA)

150 Nood: "1980s" movies

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2026 07:37 PM (wzUl9)

151 >133 MkY Same space as a gun case. On top?

Interesting idea.

I didn't take any cordless hole punchers with me on the inaugural trip(s), it was all I could manage learning how to plan for towing, how to tow, how to dewinterize, how to sanitize, how to shove 10 or more suitcases' worth of stuff into the thing, where to put the suitcases. That and both the RV and the tow vehicle had significant problems.

The high-velocity-lead-based ballistic equipment (HVLBBE because I like to make up acronyms on the fly), if it can be found and dredged from the location of the most recent tragic canoe accident, will be on subsequent trips.

Hopefully along with the archery equipment.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:37 PM (FDHJL)

152 >138 Ben Had

Thank you! I am well and hope you are too, Ben Had! :-)

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:38 PM (FDHJL)

153 Have you ever started a fire with using natural friction tools?

Natural Friction is how I ended up with two kids and a mortgage.

Posted by: Howdy at June 06, 2026 07:40 PM (EFkNq)

154 142 Should we include an archery target to the TXMOME?

I'd love to have some there with the haybales at different ranges.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at June 06, 2026 07:40 PM (FDHJL)

155 Have you ever started a fire with using natural friction tools?

Haven't tried since I was a teenager but never did succeed.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:26 PM (GseMx)


That is my next task. I am waiting on inspiration and you may have given me it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2026 07:40 PM (rbvCR)

156 SPinRH. Consider it done.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:41 PM (5P5DO)

157 121 Me too. The levothyroxine worries me more than the BP meds.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2026 07:17 PM (LHPAg)

I would need BP meds for the first time because my salt intake would be through the roof. Freezed dried food and canned goods not low in sodium.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:21 PM (GseMx)


For one thing, sodium is one of those things where it's more of a big problem for a small number of people, rather than the general problem it's sold as. A lot of medical literature is written by mathematical illiterates who cannot tell the difference, and doctors are worse. As long as you also have potassium to run the other side of your cells' sodium/potassium pumps, you should be fine.

For another, I have an extremely dim view of BP meds in general, both for efficacy and for side effects. I deeply question whether they are even a net benefit in total health outcomes at all. It's anecdotal, and my dad is prone to high-sensitivity or even paradoxical reactions, but he seems to do worse on them than off.

Posted by: SciVo at June 06, 2026 07:42 PM (Sy6m/)

158 I might have, being from there and all. Did you find some nice pictures of it?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)

Yes I did a large painting 36x48 . You can see it under landscapes at Stuppleart.com.

I tried the http link but it doesn't seem to work.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:43 PM (GseMx)

159 Dash, there will be archery!

Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:45 PM (5P5DO)

160 Yes I did a large painting 36x48 . You can see it under landscapes at Stuppleart.com.

I tried the http link but it doesn't seem to work.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2026 07:43 PM (GseMx)

I just looked it up. It's gorgeous! That's at Old Man's Cave. Been there many times.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:53 PM (h7ZuX)

161 159 Dash, there will be archery!
Posted by: Ben Had at June 06, 2026 07:45 PM (5P5DO)


Yessssss!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 06, 2026 07:54 PM (h7ZuX)

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