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Clinton and Obama Judges Combine to Overrule the Military's Judgment about Good Military Order, Insist That No One Can Reject Transgenders In the Military for Any Proper Logical Reasons

It can only be arbitrary and "based upon animus." There are no conceivable reasons why people with a history of mental illness and a dependency on constant medical interventions and mind-affecting artificial hormones would not make for good recruits.

None. Not a one.

Divided appeals court rules Trump administration's ban on transgender military service is unconstitutional


Washington -- A divided federal appeals court ruled Monday that the Trump administration's policy banning transgender individuals from serving in the military is likely unconstitutional.

A panel of three judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit split 2-1 in finding that the ban rolled out by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth last year was driven by animus toward transgender people.

Judges Judith Rogers and Robert Wilkins agreed that the Trump administration's policy targeting transgender service members likely violated the Constitution's guarantee of equal protection.

The two judges agreed to leave in place a preliminary injunction that prevented the Defense Department from removing transgender troops who are in the military. That order is narrow and only covers the active-duty plaintiffs in the case.

"The government's stated reason for issuing the Hegseth Policy as based solely upon gender dysphoria was pretextual, and that instead, the Hegseth Policy was premised, at least in part, on a non-legitimate state interest to harm the politically unpopular group of transgender persons," Wilkins wrote in an opinion, adding that President Trump "declared transgender people as categorically unfit for military service explicitly because of their gender identity."

In other words, we don't have to examine the reasons offered for the policy, because we know they're lies, and once you exclude the reasons offered -- which we know are lies -- there are no reasons left, and hence it's "arbitrary." Oh, and the lies are motivated by "animus."

Therefore, we pencilnecked DEI hires are in charge of the armed forces now. Ooooh-rah, bitches!


Wilkins and Judge Justin Walker, meanwhile, allowed the administration to enforce restrictions on transgender plaintiffs who sought to join the military but were prevented under the new policy from doing so.

Walker, who authored a dissenting opinion, was nominated to the federal bench by Mr. Trump in 2020. Wilkins was appointed to the D.C. Circuit by President Barack Obama, and Rogers was tapped for the appeals court by President Bill Clinton.

Mr. Trump signed an executive order in the opening days of his second term that targeted active-duty and prospective service members with gender dysphoria. The president's directive said that the military's "high standards for troop readiness, lethality, cohesion, honesty, humility, uniformity and integrity" are inconsistent with the "medical, surgical and mental health constraints on individuals with gender dysphoria."

...

"This is not a case where we are left to speculate why the government drafted such broad, undifferentiated classifications," Wilkins said. "Unless we are going to fall for the old Groucho Marx line -- 'who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?' -- we have direct evidence in this case that animus motivated the classifications in the Hegseth Policy."

The Obama and Clinton judges just pretend that being on a lifelong diet of hormones and surgeries won't disrupt readiness or result in so-called "military personnel" calling out sick for duty.

Note, however, that the policy isn't completely undone. Both the Clinton and Obama judge agree that the military may refuse to recruit transgenders going forward.

The Clinton judge would only permit the transgenders who sued to remain in the military. I assume that this is the actual holding, because it's what both the Clinton and Obama judges agree on. (The Obama judge would extend this to all transgenders currently serving.)

Josh Gerstein
@joshgerstein

46m

NEW: DC Cir. panel splinters on Trump ban on trans people in military. Wilkins (Obama) controls, protecting existing members but not future ones. Rogers (Clinton) would uphold injunction on policy but only for suers. Walker (Trump) would let policy stand.

Update:

Mark Hemingway
@Heminator

This is insane. You can't serve if you have a nut allergy, but taking large amounts of mood altering exogenous cross-sex hormones around heavy weaponry is OK?

That's an arbitrary claim based on animus, bub. Watch it.

So close to Pride Month, too!


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:24 PM




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1 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:24 PM (0N4FZ)

2 Bottom line is you can't enlist or stay in the military if you are on certain classes of drugs and all transgenders both m to f and f to m are on life altering hormone therapy drugs for life.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:25 PM (0N4FZ)

3 Can I get a trifecta?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:25 PM (0N4FZ)

4 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

5 Obama-appointed judge Robert Wilkins and Clinton-appointed judge Judith Rogers ruled against Trump's policy.

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Ain't DEI Hires Grand?

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (3Gbwc)

6 1 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:24 PM (0N4FZ)

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Yeah, but SCOTUS never, ever, not once in ever, has sided with Trump on anything ever ever ever.

He's 0 for a million infinities when it comes to SCOTUS because only Thomas and Alito ever vote for him.

All is lost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (7RBt4)

7 Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....

Posted by: steevy at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (YwEeS)

8 They should put a stop to the animus over people who don't do their jobs!

That kind of bigotry has to STOP!

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (Fi81e)

9 Hegseth immediately creates new ranking: Cannon Fodder (CF1).

Posted by: wth at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (UjdFS)

10 Yeah, there's no reason to ban trannies other than animus toward trannies.

Just like there's no reason to be opposed to endless interventions in the Middle East other than animus towards Israel and Jews.

What are you, jealous that they're playing the liberal game better than you?

Posted by: Same Exact Argunent at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (Qx+VI)

11 what a waste of everyone's time

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (j+aD2)

12 Bottom line is you can't enlist or stay in the military if you are on certain classes of drugs and all transgenders both m to f and f to m are on life altering hormone therapy drugs for life.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:25 PM (0N4FZ)
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But muh equality!

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (Fi81e)

13 hey who was hot for E Jean earlier? got another hottie for you!

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (j+aD2)

14 We need Commissar Judges on battlefield to over rule.officers and DOJ.

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:28 PM (Ia/+0)

15 Why is the administration even playing along with the idea that the courts have any say in military matters? Why has any administration?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 01, 2026 04:29 PM (5IFb9)

16 what a waste of everyone's time

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (j+aD2)
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Whereas before it was a waste of everyone's money as Ts would get "transition surgery" on the People's dime, and be out of combat in "recovery" for most of their tour of duty. Either pre-transition, or post.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:29 PM (Fi81e)

17 Sooo, you cannot deny troons just because they are troons, but you can deny those with chronic medical issues ?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (/lPRQ)

18 Pretty much nonstop bad news on the HQ today

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (fkSkh)

19 Kill them. Kill the sick queers, especially kill the judges.

Posted by: JoshO at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (xL2KH)

20 Hope Pete tells them to fk off

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (Ia/+0)

21 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

We have so many helicopters just sitting idle.

Posted by: Methos at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (vSvIl)

22 Judith Rogers is 86 and senior judge. I would say half of the anti Trump rulings have came from senior some appointed by Republicans. Get rid of senior judges

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (gQKJe)

23 I do love the braindead idea that ANYONE has a "right" to serve in the military. How absolutely stupid.

Posted by: deadrody at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (qf6NU)

24 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

-----------------

Can we make the overturning of one or more corrupt judges' decision a capital offense?

/A man can dream ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (3Gbwc)

25 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I was going to desock but it seems to still apply.

Posted by: Zombie Jeff Dahmer at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (36bTp)

26 Sooo, you cannot deny troons just because they are troons, but you can deny those with chronic medical issues ?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (/lPRQ)
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Because they aren't a prog cause.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:31 PM (Fi81e)

27 18 Pretty much nonstop bad news on the HQ today


oh it's almost always like this! really there isn't that much bad news

even this is just stupid. it won't do anything.

the illegals killing each other more sad than bad. in the end they're all going home.

the election in Colombia was good news

the cleanup of that nonsense in NJ was good news

the stuff coming out about nazi boy is good news

there's a ton of good news

we like to kvetch (I guess, I don't but anyway)

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 01, 2026 04:31 PM (j+aD2)

28 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)


It's SCROTUS.
They prefer to be called SCROTUS.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 04:32 PM (/lPRQ)

29 Pooky served with a guy who couldn't take his wife with him to his duty station in Thailand because the USAF couldn't guarantee she'd get her Zoloft. She wanted to go, the USAF said it was too dangerous to leave her with the possibility that she couldn't get a common antidepressant in SE Asia, known for making pharmaceuticals.

But hey, trannies "needing" surgery and tons of hormones while deployed will be just fine!

Posted by: please note pookysgirl's sarcasm at June 01, 2026 04:32 PM (Wt5PA)

30
Sentry duty on Attu.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 01, 2026 04:32 PM (O0L8i)

31 >>> hey who was hot for E Jean earlier? got another hottie for you!
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (j+aD2)


The face she's making is the exact one I make when I've just ate something really bad, absolutely horrible, but I don't want to hurt the feelings of the person that made it. So I'm working through the revulsion and failing at a smile.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 01, 2026 04:32 PM (3uBP9)

32 4 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

======

He also had 3/4 of his legislature on his side when he decided to impeach the judges.

That helps a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 01, 2026 04:32 PM (7RBt4)

33 Hope Pete tells them to fk off
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (Ia/+0)
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If the pattern fits, he won't.

Trump will just go along with the judge until he gets another court to reverse it (cross fingers) if another one will.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (Fi81e)

34 Sorry sir that outfit can't fight today, their penises fell off

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (gQKJe)

35 Not that I know much about Israel, but read often they have Commassar Judges running that country. Probably where our Marxists got the ideas.

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (Ia/+0)

36 Did they intentionally release this on the first day of Pride month?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (0MjtC)

37 I'm sure they believe banning biological males in women's sports also unconstitutional.

Are these male to female trannies in the female service branch or are they male to female trannies demanding they be allowed in the male service branch?

Posted by: polynikes at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (WNOcj)

38 The government's stated reason for issuing the Hegseth Policy as based solely upon gender dysphoria was pretextual, and that instead, the Hegseth Policy was premised, at least in part, on a non-legitimate state interest to harm the politically unpopular group of transgender persons

Classic retard method of argumentation.

You said you were doing it because of X reason, but that's a lie. You really mean to do it because of highly objectionable Y reason. No, I won't offer proof. My bald assertion is sufficient.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (mkw2N)

39 Who’s the sixhead?

Posted by: Kratwurst at June 01, 2026 04:34 PM (36bTp)

40 Dang, that's quite a five-head on Judge Rodgers. You could sell ad space on that.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 01, 2026 04:34 PM (qivay)

41 Bad foot arches get you 4F, but a literal suppurating deliberately unhealed self-inflicted crotch wound requiring thrice-weekly fucking with a giant dildo - because let's be honest that's what "dilation" is - along with a major mental disorder and regular injection with cross-sex hormones is 1A material. Gee, there's no rational basis whatsoever for keeping the latter person out of military service whatsoever.

Posted by: Whole world's gone fucking mad at June 01, 2026 04:34 PM (TbWk/)

42 Yeah, but SCOTUS never, ever, not once in ever, has sided with Trump on anything ever ever ever.

He's 0 for a million infinities when it comes to SCOTUS because only Thomas and Alito ever vote for him.

All is lost.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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An important function of the media is to discourage the political opponents to the left and Democrats in general.

I quit reading or watching news programs since 2008 and have become much happier as I can pick and choose which sort of garbage news to pick apart rather than absorbing the mass of black pilling stories as a whole.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:34 PM (E4rtv)

43 McMurdo station in Antarctica might be a good place to assign reinstated tranny soldiers while the case makes its way through the courts.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)

44
How's about this: trannies are mentally unstable and unfit for service.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (O0L8i)

45 You said you were doing it because of X reason, but that's a lie. You really mean to do it because of highly objectionable Y reason. No, I won't offer proof. My bald assertion is sufficient.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 01, 2026 04:33 PM (mkw2N)
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Judges be doin' that all the time. "The Court finds ...<bullshit here>"

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (Fi81e)

46 Bottom line is you can't enlist or stay in the military if you are on certain classes of drugs and all transgenders both m to f and f to m are on life altering hormone therapy drugs for life.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:25 PM (0N4FZ)

Lithium is near the top of the banned meds list.

Posted by: pookysgirl knows this for obvious reasons at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (Wt5PA)

47 We need to do something about the corrupt judges."

Hmm.

Spain, 1930s...

Posted by: man at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (XuXeR)

48 No nothing to be concerned about at all.


Why, you're acting as if these insane individuals have been responsible for assassination attempts and overall violent mass shootings..

Bigot

Idiot leftists

Posted by: Melodicmetal at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (CzlhL)

49 How's about this: trannies are mentally unstable and unfit for service.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (O0L8i)
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Sounds like animus.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (Fi81e)

50 It's SCROTUS.
They prefer to be called SCROTUS.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher


SCROTUS is the group.
SCROTUM are the individuals.

Come my little SCROTUMS. Gather around.
We make a fearsome SCROTUS.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (YYKrY)

51 The judges want to keep the welfare in uniform gravy train running.

Typical.

Posted by: Pray The Gay Away at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (IqKsT)

52 So, a brand new all tranny, mmlgbtqsdfdsf+ outfit can now be created, given bare minimum supplies and sent to Africa.

Okay.

The locals will love them.

Arm the locals...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (Sco7b)

53 I watched the movie Patton over the weekend. He would have known how to handle this situation.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (bNf8H)

54 Not one step back.

So much for the stellar military enlistments of the past year or two.

Look, they intend to shrink the military budget bigly and use the vast amount of $ for diplomacy and grift (sorry, that's the same thing). So diplomacy and ?? ____. (Fill in the blank. They'll lie and piss it all up anyway.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (NFX2v)

55 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.
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Sooner or later, SCOTUS is going to have to rule that the Administrative Procedures Act is not a catch-all for getting around the relevant statutes, jurisdiction requirements and rules to manufacture a federal case before a friendly judge.

The concurrence of Thomas last week shows he, at least, is getting real tired of the lower courts just making shit up.

What would be hilarious is, when they over-rule this, to remand it to the DC circuit, with an order that the circuit enter an opinion consistent with their ruling and that it be specifically signed by all judges of the circuit.
Any who refuse will be placed on admin leave.

Kind of a "rub their noses in the shit" type of thing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 04:36 PM (73/SM)

56 McMurdo station in Antarctica might be a good place to assign reinstated tranny soldiers while the case makes its way through the courts.
Posted by: Chuck Martel


Gitmo since it's already a military base.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (YYKrY)

57 And the lesser courts are SCRUNTs.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (/lPRQ)

58 To me Trannies are mentally unstable

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (Ia/+0)

59 Aren't people who are recovering from surgery not fit to deploy? And trans are always recovering. This means that a normal person will have to take their place in the front line.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (Vpqw1)

60 I do love the braindead idea that ANYONE has a "right" to serve in the military. How absolutely stupid.

Posted by: deadrody at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM


Using the logic of this ruling anyone can enlist in the military regardless of their mental health status.


I can see it now, the psycho killer on the grenade qualification range or the multiple personality disorder SEAL candidate pulling his weight on the team log carry and a quick dip in the freezing ocean to cool off you never know who is going to be next to you and if he wants to kill you or the enemy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (0N4FZ)

61 They should just be able to cite the obvious difference in service vs. cost for trannies vs. normies and even gays.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (Fi81e)

62 It's really weird how the lefty media is suddenly very interested in the results of a sitting president's medical evaluation, going so far as to quote doctors who are calling "bullshit" on Trump's White House physician's positive assessment of his overall health.

Didn't this very same media put on blast those who questioned Biden's health? Something about making medical assessments without having even examined ol Brandon?

Posted by: one hour sober at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (J4Dwc)

63 Not well versed in the law, but doesn't the commander in chief pretty much have a blank check on firing military personnel?

When you see a General relieved of duty, is that even allowed to be disputed in a civilian court?

I would think you could just name the hundred or so transgender military members and have them fired.

Posted by: Leupold at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (eIzlH)

64 There's no such thing as a transgender so I don't know what anybody is talking about.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (n5tGW)

65 So-called, Trans-gender individuals are ipso-facto insane. Full stop.

We are living in a mad-mad-mad world.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)

66 Did they intentionally release this on the first day of Pride month?"

Heh

Posted by: man at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (XuXeR)

67 So tiresome. Fags, retards, and cubicle bitches run the world now.

Can't wait to hear Schlichter report on this from the Green Room while he writes us out his entire resume again.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (lUQEB)

68 Whole thing is a scam. The trannies joing the military to get free, taxpayer funded expensive surgeries and drugs, spend the rest of their stints recovering, then leave with their new fake peens and vag's.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (gtcuf)

69 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

We have so many helicopters just sitting idle.
Posted by: Methos at June 01, 2026 04:30 PM (vSvIl)

Start up the rotors
Pack the leftist scum
Drop them in the oceans
Leave no one alive

Posted by: Free your country from the leftist scum at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (TbWk/)

70 Just like there's no reason to be opposed to endless interventions in the Middle East other than animus towards Israel and Jews.

Posted by: Same Exact Argunent at June 01, 2026 04:27 PM (Qx+VI)

There are plenty of reasons to be opposed to interventions in the middle east or anywhere else.

But when you claim the ONLY reason we're involved in the Middle East is because TEH JEWS DEMAND IT...

It's pretty clear this is about animus, not simply being opposed to interventions.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (N1tpc)

71 Sounds like animus."

Aanalmus

Posted by: man at June 01, 2026 04:39 PM (XuXeR)

72 Walker, who authored a dissenting opinion, was nominated to the federal bench by Mr. Trump in 2020. Wilkins was appointed to the D.C. Circuit by President Barack Obama, and Rogers was tapped for the appeals court by President Bill Clinton.

I'm shocked.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 01, 2026 04:39 PM (Riz8t)

73 The military is just another jobs programs to the judges. Sad.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 01, 2026 04:39 PM (RAxGY)

74 A. You cannot be born in the "wrong" body.
B. You cannot change your gender, it is written in the programming of every cell of your body.
C. Never fake the funk on a massive dunk.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

75 *type* *delete* these retard judges.

Yes, during "pride" month.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (R+iUD)

76 Sounds like those two judges were describing what they did and not what Hegseth did. Their ruling was obviously baseless, pretextual and based upon animus.

The left will ALWAYS tell you straight up what they are doing by pretending you are the one doing it.

Posted by: Thatch at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (i0077)

77 I've seen Jurassic Park many times, but I don't think I ever thought about the juxtaposition of this transition.

Sure, I noticed booty. But the relation between the scene before and after the transition is hilarious.

http://tiny.cc/ose4101

Posted by: bonhomme at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (mkw2N)

78 Left wingers are now a clear and present threat to national security; the politicians that allowed this and the judges that maintain it are trying to weaken and degrade the military.

Flat feet can keep you out of the Army, but not surgical genital mutilation?

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (4MsaP)

79 Whole thing is a scam. The trannies joing the military to get free, taxpayer funded expensive surgeries and drugs, spend the rest of their stints recovering, then leave with their new fake peens and vag's.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (gtcuf)
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But it was a scam put into place by groups who wanted to "change America". They had to make "transitioning" a more common everyday thing so that everybody is more likely to "know a T", so they can do what they did for Gay.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (Fi81e)

80 Rogers was tapped ... by President Bill Clinton."

Fify

Posted by: man at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (XuXeR)

81 These people can't be trusted with a Razor Blade.

They have no business in the Military.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (P0D9r)

82 What would be hilarious is, when they over-rule this, to remand it to the DC circuit, with an order that the circuit enter an opinion consistent with their ruling and that it be specifically signed by all judges of the circuit.
Any who refuse will be placed on admin leave.


The last sentence is key, although I would invoke the "woodchipper" sanction.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (Riz8t)

83 The fight is worth having, but even a favorable ruling on appeal wont last another decade. Both parties will put forward POTUS candidates who will let this issue creep forward.

Just like they did “dont ask dont tell.”

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (RAxGY)

84 Animusiacs was a funny cartoon.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (lUQEB)

85 I can see a huge revival of 'Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy' with trannies hop-skirting around in their military issue bloomers with M4 carbines.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (D1E+2)

86 That's fine. Just relax enforcement actions against troops who assault the mutants. That will work even better. If you pull out your lady dick and a soldier beats you with a fire extinguisher and nobody gives a shit, then imposing yourself on them seems way less fun.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 01, 2026 04:41 PM (BI5O2)

87 To me Trannies are mentally unstable
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:37 PM (Ia/+0)

Fixed that for you.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (N1tpc)

88 Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....
Posted by: steevy

COVID masks on!
Over the top we go boys, er, women, er whatever!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (MDua2)

89 Hsve read the Cultural Marxists Seminaries have like %20 of kids questioning their born sex

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (Ia/+0)

90 We are living in a mad-mad-mad world.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 01, 2026 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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The Lord never told us we weren't.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (Fi81e)

91 Our nation basically became ruled by judges from the Warren Court onwards. We're just "lucky" we have a bare majority in the Supreme Court that usually slaps this stuff down.

If the Left ever gets an actual majority on the SC again, it won't matter anymore who wins what election.

Posted by: Leupold at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (AGZkl)

92 >>Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....


Tip of the Spear.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (P0D9r)

93 [Babylon Bee:] "Trump Signs Executive Order To Skip Pride Month, and Today Now Officially July 1

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:43 PM (3Gbwc)

94 "Endowed by their Creator" ...but if they believe God screwed up their "assigned sex" (spit) then really, what rights does anyone really have if a creator god can make even one mistake?

Posted by: Rex B at June 01, 2026 04:43 PM (M9/R7)

95 Flat feet can keep you out of the Army, but not surgical genital mutilation?
Posted by: UGAdawg

Some 4" heels will take care of those flat feet.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (/lPRQ)

96 Buchanon Judge overturns Lincoln's firing of McLellan.

"The government's stated reason for dismissing McLellan based solely on Lincoln 'wanting to use the army if McLellan isn't' and 'needing Grant because he fights' is entirely pretextual" wrote Judge Bocephus F.E.I. Phuddydud in his majority opinion.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (gtcuf)

97 I am assuming these deviants are in mostly clerical positions and not combat units.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (5P5DO)

98 rickb, I saw a comment from you last night (?) about biscuits and gravy... don't use grocery store sausage, get yourself a birthday or (very) early Christmas present:
https://broadbenthams.com/

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (R+iUD)

99 >>Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....

Tip of the Spear.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (P0D9r)

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We're gonna need MOAR tampons to stem the flow ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (3Gbwc)

100 We're gonna need a fuckton of "code reds"

Posted by: Colonel Jessep at June 01, 2026 04:45 PM (OfMDG)

101 "Endowed by their Creator" ...but if they believe God screwed up their "assigned sex" (spit) then really, what rights does anyone really have if a creator god can make even one mistake?
Posted by: Rex B at June 01, 2026 04:43 PM (M9/R7)
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"Endowed by their Creator" is theocracy talk.

All the cool kids know Government is our benefactor. Government gives us rights.

They are way smarter than James Madison (either one)!

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:45 PM (Fi81e)

102 >>I am assuming these deviants are in mostly clerical positions and not combat units.


They are mostly in the Hospitals, recovering from their Taxpayer Funded Transition Surgeries.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:45 PM (P0D9r)

103 Take all of the existing weirdos, send them to Alaska, put them in a little hut with no windows, and have them count paperclips until they quit or their enlistment is up.

Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2026 04:46 PM (mGFn3)

104 Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....

Tip of the Spear

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I can't wait to see Day-Glo Rainbow Hawk Down.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 01, 2026 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

105 "The government's stated reason for issuing the Hegseth Policy as based solely upon gender dysphoria was pretextual, and that instead, the Hegseth Policy was premised, at least in part, on a non-legitimate state interest to harm the politically unpopular group of transgender persons,"

Shorter version: H8ter!!!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:46 PM (l3cgK)

106 This has been a line of attack from the left for a while. Any time they don't like a decision from the Trump admin they argue the reasons for the decision don't matter it is just unfair animus.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (sKqQm)

107 Our nation basically became ruled by judges from the Warren Court onwards. We're just "lucky" we have a bare majority in the Supreme Court that usually slaps this stuff down.

Posted by: Leupold at June 01, 2026 04:42 PM (AGZkl)
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This guy gets it.

Democracy is what's left over when Dem-appointed judges have told you how you're going to live.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (Fi81e)

108 I am assuming these deviants are in mostly clerical positions and not combat units.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (5P5DO)

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We're gonna need a M*A*S*H reboot with character Corporal Gaydar O'Reilly.

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (3Gbwc)

109 >>> 78 Left wingers are now a clear and present threat to national security; the politicians that allowed this and the judges that maintain it are trying to weaken and degrade the military.

Flat feet can keep you out of the Army, but not surgical genital mutilation?
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 01, 2026 04:40 PM (4MsaP)

The same mutilation is totes *fine* with the EXPERTS!!! of the American Medical Association, and has been for decades. It's only extending this "service" to underage "customers" that is recent.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (R+iUD)

110 If the visceral dislike of something is no reason for banning something, then the sexual fetishizing of something is no reason.

Decades of letting degenerates write law based on moving ever closer to their goal of humping kids has got to stop.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (HSwwP)

111 Put them into one special unit that will be the first into any combat....
Tip of the Spear

Tee-Hee!

Posted by: Sex Reassignment Surgeons at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (MDua2)

112 A military run by liberal judges is a waste of time and money. Get rid of weapon restrictions and give letters of marque. We will take care of all enemies. Foreign and domestic.

Posted by: Spenser for Hire at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (zRlXK)

113 110 If the visceral dislike of something is no reason for banning something, then the sexual fetishizing of something is no reason.

Decades of letting degenerates write law based on moving ever closer to their goal of humping kids has got to stop.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (HSwwP)

Islam was there already 1400 years ago...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (l3cgK)

114 "Endowed by their Creator" ...but if they believe God screwed up their "assigned sex" (spit) then really, what rights does anyone really have if a creator god can make even one mistake?

Posted by: Rex B at June 01, 2026 04:43 PM


That was the premise for the movie Dogma. If God made a mistake cast out angels could go back to heaven through a technicality.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (0N4FZ)

115 Hsve read the Cultural Marxists Seminaries have like %20 of kids questioning their born sex

Men want to be women to get all the goodies modern America gives to women (and access to actual women).

Women want to be men because leftists are very, very rapey.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (sKqQm)

116 Put all of the trans in their own unit and only deploy them for Pride festivals and drag queen story hours.

Problem solved.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (6ydKt)

117 It also looks to me that this opinion dispenses with the whole phony "scrutiny" framework the left built.

The one where they used the "rational basis" to uphold any law they liked and "strict scrutiny" to void any they didn't.

It's either a Constitutional violation or it's not.

No more of this, "well, it's a little bit of a violation, but not so bad so it's fine."
Read the law as written, not as you want it to be or as you think it could be.
And nowhere in any law is "but Trump was mean."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (73/SM)

118 Decades of letting degenerates write law based on moving ever closer to their goal of humping kids has got to stop.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (HSwwP)
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Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (Fi81e)

119 108 I am assuming these deviants are in mostly clerical positions and not combat units.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2026 04:44 PM (5P5DO)

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We're gonna need a M*A*S*H reboot with character Corporal Gaydar O'Reilly.

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (3Gbwc)

Klinger get the nip and tuck...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:49 PM (l3cgK)

120 How do you keep your new Front Hole dilated on a 50 Mile Ruck?

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:49 PM (P0D9r)

121 How do you keep your new Front Hole dilated on a 50 Mile Ruck?
Posted by: garrett


Canteen, flashlight, there must be some part of your gear that fits.

Posted by: mikeski at June 01, 2026 04:49 PM (VHUov)

122 Put all of the trans in their own unit and only deploy them for Pride festivals and drag queen story hours.

Problem solved.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (6ydKt)
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Or to paratroop deep into Muslim territory on a "mission" to be explained later.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:50 PM (Fi81e)

123 Rear Admirals and Cabin Bois.
Those judges love their fag military.

Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2026 04:50 PM (d+62M)

124 120 How do you keep your new Front Hole dilated on a 50 Mile Ruck?

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 04:49 PM (P0D9r)

that Frenchman that shoved an 80mm mortar round up his ass had an idea...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:50 PM (l3cgK)

125 garrett, they can't so sepsis may solve this problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (5P5DO)

126 Animus is being shown during actual Pride Month! Not even just close! Double plus ungood! Sacred trannies will save our military and our Precious Demoncracy, all at the same time!

Posted by: Martin Tell at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (sFNX2)

127 1 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

Indeed.

The entire Democratic/Socialist/Communist party (parties) all have a U.S. Supreme Court agenda of revising the court
from impeachment possibilities to term limits to Court expansion.
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👉WSJ, 'Democrats Promise to Wreck the Supreme Court'

Thirteen Justices. No control over the docket. They’re serious about it. By The Editorial Board, May 31, 2026

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (NFX2v)

128 Rear Admirals and Cabin Bois.
Those judges love their fag military.

Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2026 04:50 PM (d+62M)
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An army is really just a concept in peace time.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (Fi81e)

129 Jeez lousie, but that bint has a 5-head. Would bangs help her at all or would that just accentuate the identity of the territory trying to be covered there?

Posted by: Seagrams and sprite at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (Iwv3U)

130 Decades of letting degenerates write law based on moving ever closer to their goal of humping kids has got to stop.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (HSwwP)
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Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (Fi81e)

This is the end game of the queer theorists like Foucault and Butler. They aren't even shy about it. This is how we got "pride" gender unicorns and literal child pr0n in classrooms and school libraries. It's grooming on an industrial scale.

Posted by: Open and notorious at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (TbWk/)

131 look at the update pictures.

What the hell even is that?

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (OfMDG)

132 Too many dilate their top hole with the muzzle of their rifle.
Military lawyer should have given the judges a photo album of the bodies.

Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (d+62M)

133 I wonder what George Washington would have done had one of his soldiers put on a dress and insisted on being called ma'am.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (0MjtC)

134 128 Rear Admirals and Cabin Bois.
Those judges love their fag military.

Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2026 04:50 PM (d+62M)
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An army is really just a concept in peace time.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (Fi81e)

The British Navy had rum, sodomy, and the lash...maybe they'd fit in there...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (l3cgK)

135 Thirteen Justices. No control over the docket. They’re serious about it. By The Editorial Board, May 31, 2026

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 04:51 PM (NFX2v)
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They are serious about a move that Jay said would invalidate the entire concept of a Supreme Court.

But you probably couldn't win with that argument in court.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (Fi81e)

136 Easiest way for Scotus to deal with this is what the Warren court did to segregationists- Grant cert, vacate the lower court ruling citing a few case precedents, and remand to the lower court again to get it right.


Make these judges go over and over again on their homework and they will choke on it.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:53 PM (E4rtv)

137 The other tool that Scotus has upon appeal is a summary reversal of lower courts where the Court doesn't even bother to explain itself but the plaintiffs lose anyway.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:54 PM (E4rtv)

138 This is the end game of the queer theorists like Foucault and Butler. They aren't even shy about it. This is how we got "pride" gender unicorns and literal child pr0n in classrooms and school libraries. It's grooming on an industrial scale.
Posted by: Open and notorious at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (TbWk/)
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Yup. And the progs who have all read Foucault and his aspiration to buttfuck boys have kept this on the downlow.

It's a stunner to realize that this is a relatively early example of "It's not happening" in the progressive prototype.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 04:55 PM (Fi81e)

139 Our nation basically became ruled by judges from the Warren Court onwards. We're just "lucky" we have a bare majority in the Supreme Court that usually slaps this stuff down.

If the Left ever gets an actual majority on the SC again, it won't matter anymore who wins what election.
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It'll make what the Dems did in VA look like pattycake in a kindergarten.
San Fran will look like a radical rightwing theocracy compared to what they will impose on the nation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 04:55 PM (73/SM)

140 I wonder what George Washington would have done had one of his soldiers put on a dress and insisted on being called ma'am.
Posted by: 29Victor
......

Why, lent him his wig, of course.

Posted by: wth at June 01, 2026 04:55 PM (UjdFS)

141 Make these judges go over and over again on their homework and they will choke on it.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:53 PM


Nope as we have seen multiple times after the Bruen ruling, they will just double down on the madness, keep making insane rulings and dare SCOTUS to do something about it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:55 PM (0N4FZ)

142 Everything is "animus" with these people because everything within them and about them is animus. Emotion and will-to-power -- another variation of the Great Feminization -- has taken over.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (fZiTB)

143 This kind of idiocy is how democrats lose elections. Sadly for them, but good for us, they don't learn. I get a kick out of Bill Maher trying to knock some sense into their heads, but they just won't listen. BWA,HA,HA.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (0Htd1)

144 Jesus wept.

Posted by: Sifty at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (LSBT/)

145 We have to get rid this damn "pride" month. I want to puke everytime it is mentioned.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (OfMDG)

146 The British Navy had rum, sodomy, and the lash...maybe they'd fit in there...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM (l3cgK)
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I'm okay with it, but make the sodomy mandatory.

Posted by: 21st Century Progressive at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (Fi81e)

147 Even the Supreme Court has its Cultural Marxists and fence sitters

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:56 PM (Ia/+0)

148 Carried over from the last thread:

22 It's amazing how many of these "elites" were born with money and have never done anything of any value at any point in their entire lives.

But are absolutely certain of how much better they are than the hoi polloi.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 03:17 PM (N1tpc)


Wasn't that the essence of The Great Gatsby? Let me see if I can find the quote... Oh my bad, it's from F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Rich Boy (1926), but the themes of TGG (1925) were presumably still on his mind:

“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different.”

Posted by: SciVo at June 01, 2026 04:57 PM (Sy6m/)

149 136 Easiest way for Scotus to deal with this is what the Warren court did to segregationists- Grant cert, vacate the lower court ruling citing a few case precedents, and remand to the lower court again to get it right.


Make these judges go over and over again on their homework and they will choke on it.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:53 PM (E4rtv)

Those judges be like...
https://youtu.be/D0uUF3mK7Xk&t=56s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 04:57 PM (l3cgK)

150 This is insane. You can't serve if you have a nut allergy, but taking large amounts of mood altering exogenous cross-sex hormones around heavy weaponry is OK?

You can't join if you have diabetes, or any of a number of medical needs that require regular medication, as they can't be guaranteed in remote, austere environments. You think they're going to make special runs to deliver HRT to remote outposts in Afghanistan?

And let's not even start on all the mental illness risks of having unstable people in stressful environments with weapons. We already screen out a huge number of young recruits for mental issues (they're unstable AND we can't guarantee their medication in deployed environments)...how do they think trans people, who are mentally ill by definition, will adjust?

The ruling is SLIGHTLY correct, in a way, in that screening of new recruits is stricter than requirements for current members. A medical condition someone develops while serving may be allowed, that would disqualify an applicant, but I don't think being trans is of the same level to waive away.

Posted by: Military Moron at June 01, 2026 04:57 PM (JCZqz)

151 I wonder what George Washington would have done had one of his soldiers put on a dress and insisted on being called ma'am.

Posted by: 29Victor

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"Discipline is the soul of an army." -- George Washington, 1757

"High heels are the sole of an army." -- Beijing Biden, 2021

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:57 PM (Yn/KS)

152 Easiest way for Scotus to deal with this is what the Warren court did to segregationists- Grant cert, vacate the lower court ruling citing a few case precedents, and remand to the lower court again to get it right.

Make these judges go over and over again on their homework and they will choke on it.
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Barely an inconvenience since they're all using AI to draft their slop anyway.
well, their clerks are.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 04:57 PM (73/SM)

153 Corporal Klinger is never getting out of the Army now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 04:58 PM (6ydKt)

154 The trannies joing the military to get free, taxpayer funded expensive surgeries and drugs, spend the rest of their stints recovering, then leave with their new fake peens and vag's.
Posted by: Delurker

This is a mission kill of those individuals right out of the gene pool. And they off themselves, a lot. And kill children, but not as much.

Air Pinochet to the white courtesy phone...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 01, 2026 04:58 PM (u82oZ)

155 117 It also looks to me that this opinion dispenses with the whole phony "scrutiny" framework the left built.

The one where they used the "rational basis" to uphold any law they liked and "strict scrutiny" to void any they didn't.

It's either a Constitutional violation or it's not.

No more of this, "well, it's a little bit of a violation, but not so bad so it's fine."
Read the law as written, not as you want it to be or as you think it could be.
And nowhere in any law is "but Trump was mean."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

No, it doesn't. To overcome the enormous burden required to overturn a military decision made on the rational basis test, the court has to find animus so that ip so facto, the agency acted without rationality. The whole split the baby shit by the majority shows that these judges don't even agree on that--one demanding trannies allowed to join while the other, these particular trannies are allowed to stay in.

See Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah as to how even Scalia was persuaded that Hialeah acted irrationally due to bias regarding Santeria and animal sacrifices. Rational basis test under Smith I and II.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 04:58 PM (E4rtv)

156 It'll make what the Dems did in VA look like pattycake in a kindergarten.
San Fran will look like a radical rightwing theocracy compared to what they will impose on the nation.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 04:55 PM (73/SM)

This is why I predict Trump's presidency will look tepid next to what is coming. We're on the cusp of a true war which he really doesn't apprehend. The next populist will, because there will be no other option.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 01, 2026 04:58 PM (fZiTB)

157 Soon the British Navy will have prayer rugs, sodomy and the Koran

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 04:59 PM (Ia/+0)

158 All trans medical and phycological costs will be taken from the judges who demand we maintain them and will pay for this out of their funds and/or earnings.

Thank you for your intention to fund this!

Posted by: DanMan at June 01, 2026 04:59 PM (8uzBS)

159 Instead of "No Kings", how 'bout just some "No Black-Robed Tyrants"?


I don't fucking recognize my country anymore. Not for a long time now.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (vHfLU)

160 This is insane. You can't serve if you have a nut allergy, but taking large amounts of mood altering exogenous cross-sex hormones around heavy weaponry is OK?

You can't join if you have diabetes, or any of a number of medical needs that require regular medication, as they can't be guaranteed in remote, austere environments.

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Peanut allergies and diabetics is not a constructed "demographic" that trans has been constructed to be.

We are well into abandoning pragmatics for theory, just like Marxists did.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (Fi81e)

161 Afternoon, folken,

Good news and bad news. The good: After almost six months, I finally received that pension payout from the 1970s-80s job, and a few days earlier than I expected. And there was more money to it, as well.

Bad: They thought somehow it was a direct payment to me, and took out state and Fed taxes!!! This despite my telling them in writing it was to be a direct rollover. They swear on the phone they have the election form, but not the page indicating the recipient, my IRA. So the incompetents cut me a check despite my rollover choice -- and without calling or informing me they had a conflict.

I yelled bloody murder, and they swear (again) they will fix this.

If any of you have accounts with Fidelity, double-check them now. The place appears to be run by Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (wzUl9)

162 In service they're deemed "Non-deployable" basically dead weight that can only push desk jobs state-side, can't be sent on exercise's or overseas for a deployment. Thats where they sit, while collecting a decent pay check, knowing they can't be 'targeted' or else they weaponize the "Equal opportunity"/ Sexual harassment mechanisms in the military that effectively shut down squads/units/ - and thus they are largely left alone because both sides know what game their playing and effectively are hamstrung with this waste of space mental case. This is what the left wants.

Posted by: saar at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (lexfv)

163 Problem solved.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 04:48 PM (6ydKt)

Nope. I'm still paying for their surgeries and drugs.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (gtcuf)

164 Barely an inconvenience since they're all using AI to draft their slop anyway.
well, their clerks are.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

They can be sanctioned for that particular vice but even judges get annoyed when all the court cases start backing up on their docket. And that annoys the clerks too. So make them choke on it in some cases, where it is clearly froot loops decision, summary reversal where the plaintiff loses but there is no crevice allowed by the lower court to repeat the whole charade using new reasoning.

Same as a parent simply saying no with no explanation.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (E4rtv)

165 New platoon formation drill:

Throw out your hands
Stick out your tush
Hands on your hips
Give 'em a push
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake
Voila!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 01, 2026 05:01 PM (wVcYX)

166 Since this is an entirely political decision written by judges who are Democrats first, second, and third, I am certain SCOTUS will reverse it and then issue a statement that there are no such things as "partisan judges", only mistaken ones.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 01, 2026 05:01 PM (/+1dw)

167 I like the No Black Robed Tyrants protest idea

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 05:01 PM (Ia/+0)

168 If any of you have accounts with Fidelity, double-check them now. The place appears to be run by Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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And that is the problem with oligopolies. They quit being efficient over time and start implementing idiotic ideas from their executive suite to pad resumes.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:02 PM (E4rtv)

169 The other tool that Scotus has upon appeal is a summary reversal of lower courts where the Court doesn't even bother to explain itself but the plaintiffs lose anyway.
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And then hearing the same whiners that whined about how the shadow docket failed to position them for success whining more?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 05:02 PM (73/SM)

170 167 I like the No Black Robed Tyrants protest idea

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 05:01 PM (Ia/+0)

They wanted to do a "No Queens" protest, but that upset the gays...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 01, 2026 05:02 PM (l3cgK)

171 As I've been saying for a long time now, we don't solve this tyranny Constitutionally. Just like at some point we had to have a moratorium in immigration, I think the same is needed Constitutionally to bring the country back to an even keel.


Otherwise we tip over. Like fucking Guam.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 01, 2026 05:02 PM (vHfLU)

172 166 Since this is an entirely political decision written by judges who are Democrats first, second, and third, I am certain SCOTUS will reverse it and then issue a statement that there are no such things as "partisan judges", only mistaken ones.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Once Roberts goes, I think that whole stupid justification for leftist treachery goes by the boards.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:03 PM (E4rtv)

173 But it throws sand in the gears while the Supreme Court decides to reverse that bad decision

Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2026 05:03 PM (Ia/+0)

174 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

Abso-fucking-lutely

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 01, 2026 05:03 PM (snZF9)

175 I would say that not sending someone into combat who already has a gaping, oozing wound is a legitimate state interest.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 01, 2026 05:04 PM (ssz2a)

176 And then hearing the same whiners that whined about how the shadow docket failed to position them for success whining more?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Better than causing chaos by injunctions on agency actions. Plaintiffs can fuck off and attend their Pride deviant festivities instead but not on the public payroll.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:04 PM (E4rtv)

177 >>Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.


Many Lamps need Decorating.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 05:04 PM (P0D9r)

178
133 I wonder what George Washington would have done had one of his soldiers put on a dress and insisted on being called ma'am.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 01, 2026 04:52 PM

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He would have made an earnest attempt to explain that this was insubordination, and destructive to morale, and that the soldier was letting all the other men in his unit down. And if that didn't work, had him shot by firing squad.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 01, 2026 05:04 PM (azNOR)

179 174 Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

I have no problem if Trump morphed into a Bukele. None. But it's not happening.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 01, 2026 05:04 PM (fZiTB)

180 173 But it throws sand in the gears while the Supreme Court decides to reverse that bad decision
Posted by: Skip
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Probably not. Scotus will probably issue another stay this week until and if they get around to hearing the case.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:05 PM (E4rtv)

181 Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different.”
Posted by: SciVo

Poppycock!

Posted by: John Kerry at June 01, 2026 05:05 PM (Dv3i1)

182 Form all of the trannies into an advance force, to help hold Kiev as mercenaries. The Ukraine is then responsible for any gender care they receive.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2026 05:05 PM (qx7Zg)

183 >>I wonder what George Washington would have done had one of his soldiers put on a dress and insisted on being called ma'am.


My guess is that General Patton would find it insufficient.

Posted by: garrett at June 01, 2026 05:05 PM (P0D9r)

184 E4rtv)

177 >>Bukele is right. We need to do something about the corrupt judges.


Many Lamps need Decorating.
Posted by: garrett


Lamps were featured in the Art Thread this morning.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 01, 2026 05:05 PM (uc5g7)

185 Nope. I'm still paying for their surgeries and drugs.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 05:00 PM (gtcuf)

True, but for the majority of trannies I'm assuming they are getting it through Medicaid or Medicare anyhow, so it's really all socialized except for the very wealthy whose families can afford it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 05:06 PM (6ydKt)

186 He would have made an earnest attempt to explain that this was insubordination, and destructive to morale, and that the soldier was letting all the other men in his unit down. And if that didn't work, had him shot by firing squad.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Klinger should have been shot before the end of season 1.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 05:06 PM (Dv3i1)

187 On a lighter note:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S1qCAj-cDSU

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2026 05:06 PM (qx7Zg)

188 Mark Hemingway
@Heminator
This is insane. You can't serve if you have a nut allergy, but taking large amounts of mood altering exogenous cross-sex hormones around heavy weaponry is OK?

Damn. Come to think of it, likely permanent income (VA disability) for their futures.

(See that? Platner is ahead of his time, not only with a 100% VA disability rating, but also looking for a large federal pension for his future.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (NFX2v)

189 Ordinary American

The continual insanity from the Left, and the passive GOPe, is begging for a Cromwellian overhaul. Yet those in power do not see it.

The English Civil War, like our own, had the biggest percentages of casualties relative to population. I would like to avoid that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (u82oZ)

190 On a lighter note:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S1qCAj-cDSU
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2026 05:06 PM (qx7Zg)

--- Why grow up!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (qx7Zg)

191 C**ksuckers
Judges know EXACTLY what they're doing.

Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (d+62M)

192 Seriously, what can Really be done about corrupt, partisan political judges, within the framework of existing rules and procedures?

Posted by: tubal at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (Gqar8)

193 Peanut allergies and diabetics is not a constructed "demographic" that trans has been constructed to be.

We are well into abandoning pragmatics for theory, just like Marxists did.
Posted by: Axeman

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These people really need to decide if it is "born this way," or a "choice."

If it is how they are born, then it is just like a nut allergy or being too short. If it is a choice, it is just like being insubordinate or a criminal.

If they are born that way, then, well, God gave them a dick so that is pretty strong evidence to what way they were born. So they are saying it is a choice. but if it's a choice, it is something that they can un-choose.

There really is no logical argument for any of this nonsense.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at June 01, 2026 05:07 PM (OfMDG)

194 Banning trannys acknowledges they are mentally ill and not fit for service, in the military at least.

Posted by: fd at June 01, 2026 05:08 PM (vFG9F)

195 L - No nic, another fine day

VA health care, for all the good they tout, is a killer. Smart people with means avoid that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 01, 2026 05:08 PM (u82oZ)

196 I think the SCOTUS should do a batch of summary reversals.

Because the real reason the lower courts whine about the shadow docket isn't that it fails to give them guidance--it's because it doesn't give them openings to exploit.

Like how they were told they don't have jurisdiction to issue nationwide injunctions.

And then Kavanaugh blew that apart with his concurrence.

Which they all seized upon as a fig leaf to keep issuing nationwide injunctions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 05:08 PM (73/SM)

197 >>>Corporal Klinger is never getting out of the Army now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf

>Cinch up those garters and get up on that wall!

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 01, 2026 05:08 PM (D1E+2)

198 Seems like almost nothing can be accomplished by a simple election anymore.

The presidency is the only single election that can move policy by that much, but then, everything has to be challenged or justified by judges.

The Constitution can no longer guarantee us a republican form of government, just that fits the Court's theory of what is enough to be a "republic-equivalent form of government".

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:09 PM (Fi81e)

199 If any of you have accounts with Fidelity, double-check them now. The place appears to be run by Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Shemp seemed to have the most going on upstairs, but was also the worst of the Stooges.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 05:10 PM (Dv3i1)

200 189 Ordinary American

The continual insanity from the Left, and the passive GOPe, is begging for a Cromwellian overhaul. Yet those in power do not see it.

The English Civil War, like our own, had the biggest percentages of casualties relative to population. I would like to avoid that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
========
What has to happen is foreign meddling and meddlers and funding in politics need to be kicked out of the country whether our 'allies' or not.

We shall see what happens but we are lurching toward a civil war without eyes open on the left because they have gotten away with political violence for well over a century with few if any societal repercussions. So they persist in poking the bear just like the Democrat fireeaters did before the ACW.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:11 PM (E4rtv)

201 6 1 Teeing this up for a SCOTUS smackdown.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2026 04:24 PM (0N4FZ)

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Yeah, but SCOTUS never, ever, not once in ever, has sided with Trump on anything ever ever ever.

He's 0 for a million infinities when it comes to SCOTUS because only Thomas and Alito ever vote for him.

All is lost.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 01, 2026 04:26 PM (7RBt4)


You jest, but SCOTUS mostly waits for splits between different circuits, and I'm not sure cases on this policy would ever come under anything but DC. It could be difficult to get them to hear it.

Posted by: SciVo at June 01, 2026 05:11 PM (Sy6m/)

202 I would say that not sending someone into combat who already has a gaping, oozing wound is a legitimate state interest.

FOB* material for sure

*Forward Operating Bases are the best bases because they are away from all the hub bub that creates irritation. Nobody needs an irritated tranny.

Posted by: DanMan at June 01, 2026 05:12 PM (8uzBS)

203 194 Banning trannys acknowledges they are mentally ill and not fit for service, in the military at least.
Posted by: fd

Not fit for purpose. (as the Brits would say)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 05:12 PM (Dv3i1)

204 Plus, Washington only had Washington Judges to deal with.

Posted by: Delurker at June 01, 2026 05:13 PM (gtcuf)

205 Banning trannys acknowledges they are mentally ill and not fit for service, in the military at least.

Posted by: fd at June 01, 2026 05:08 PM (vFG9F)
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That's a negative opinion -> animus.

Having nice things -> animus toward things you don't find as nice.

Hence having nice things and wanting nice things is animus and you're a bigot.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:13 PM (Fi81e)

206 McMurdo station in Antarctica might be a good place to assign reinstated tranny soldiers while the case makes its way through the courts.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)


Send the to muslim countries.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 01, 2026 05:13 PM (ExV1e)

207 the thing is, Hegseth could have said, "Trannies are just ugly and we don't want no uggos in the military" and that would have been Constitutional up until today.

Because the same reasoning that says "trannies can serve" requires uggos, fatties, and 'tards.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 05:13 PM (73/SM)

208 196 I think the SCOTUS should do a batch of summary reversals.

Because the real reason the lower courts whine about the shadow docket isn't that it fails to give them guidance--it's because it doesn't give them openings to exploit.

Like how they were told they don't have jurisdiction to issue nationwide injunctions.

And then Kavanaugh blew that apart with his concurrence.

Which they all seized upon as a fig leaf to keep issuing nationwide injunctions.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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I agree and it also ends that case permanently with those plaintiffs.

The real problem is lawfare incorporated with its small group of lawyers and active co conspirators in DC as judges.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:14 PM (E4rtv)

209 Seriously, what can Really be done about corrupt, partisan political judges, within the framework of existing rules and procedures?


I can think of solutions from outside the framework of those rules and procedures, since the Left seems to think - and act - as if there are NO RULES.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 01, 2026 05:14 PM (vHfLU)

210 "Or to paratroop deep into Muslim territory on a "mission" to be explained later."

Fast-roping would work too.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 01, 2026 05:14 PM (Vpqw1)

211 More, they said not allowing them in was Unconstitutional... Meaning you have a RIGHT to serve?

Yeah, tell that to the overweight recruits.

Posted by: Landreiu at June 01, 2026 05:15 PM (mP0Kj)

212 195 L - No nic, another fine day

VA health care, for all the good they tout, is a killer. Smart people with means avoid that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

👍 I know that as a fact, sir; I was being a B.

But by the time they're done with their Medicare for all/universal healthcare for hundreds of millions, our system will look fondly upon the old days of such lousy healthcare.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 05:15 PM (NFX2v)

213 205 Banning trannys acknowledges they are mentally ill and not fit for service, in the military at least.

Posted by: fd

Don't have to go that far. Simply whether or not they are deployable in the field suffices. Troops have long been separated from the military due to an inability to be deployed for wartime. Fat, diabetic, etc. So anyone taking hormones, etc. are likely not deployable under medical standards as well as physical.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:16 PM (E4rtv)

214 It seems to me that someone higher up is not enforcing physical fitness standards. Desk job or no it is still the military.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2026 05:17 PM (5P5DO)

215 Deciding that people who come into the military to fund expensive, frivolous, elective surgery and recovery time are not as valuable as people who don't

=> animus.

This is where judges have lead us. This is where the Gods of the Copybook Headings will have to find us.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:17 PM (Fi81e)

216 Seriously, what can Really be done about corrupt, partisan political judges, within the framework of existing rules and procedures?
--
Are there no catapults, trebuchets or onagers?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 05:18 PM (73/SM)

217 "Shemp seemed to have the most going on upstairs, but was also the worst of the Stooges."

Wise guy, eh? Everyone knows that Joe Besser was the worst.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 01, 2026 05:18 PM (Vpqw1)

218 In Iran, gender-affirming surgery is legally and religiously permitted, but the system medicalizes trans identity, heavily funneling individuals toward sex reassignment surgery while strictly controlling Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT).

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 01, 2026 05:18 PM (NFX2v)

219 Judges need to stop treating kooky, fringe, academic theories on gender, economic, and social issues like revealed gospel truth and we might actually get past this crazy. A few nutty professors proclaim something with their imagined expert authority, and suddenly it's an unassailable fact in every courtroom.

I don't see that changing any time soon is the disappointing part.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 01, 2026 05:18 PM (6ydKt)

220 Posted by: SciVo

Actually, they don't. What you want is rule 10 which gives 3 guides to accepting cert.

(a) a United States court of appeals has entered a decision in conflict with the decision of another United States court of appeals on the same important matter; has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with a decision by a state court of last resort; or has so far departed from the accepted and usual course of judicial proceedings, or sanctioned such a departure by a lower court, as to call for an exercise of this Court's supervisory power;

(b) a state court of last resort has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with the decision of another state court of last resort or of a United States court of appeals;

(c) a state court or a United States court of appeals has decided an important question of federal law that has not been, but should be, settled by this Court, or has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with relevant decisions of this Court.

C enables the court to decide trannies in the army case.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:19 PM (E4rtv)

221 This is where judges have lead us. This is where the Gods of the Copybook Headings will have to find us.
Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:17 PM (Fi81e)

Hopefully. Otherwise we sink into the quagmire of quiescence like England.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 01, 2026 05:19 PM (fZiTB)

222 If captured would a jihadist rape a tranny? They'd rape goats , but the fake vagina might be Haram

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 01, 2026 05:19 PM (gQKJe)

223 Hormones, those under consideration per this discussion, are mind, or at least mood altering medications that must be taken continuously, are they not? Recruiting soldiers who are required to take other mind or mood altering medications - is this allowable now?

Posted by: tubal at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (Gqar8)

224 We're gonna need a M*A*S*H reboot with character Corporal Gaydar O'Reilly.

Posted by: ShainS at June 01, 2026 04:47 PM (3Gbwc)

Klinger get the nip and tuck...
Posted by: jim

===

They had one episode where they told Klinger they would give him his Section 8 if he signed a paper saying he was homosexual.

Klinger said EF That Shit Man! I'm just trying to get out...
Might be right before he started wearing the uniform.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (/lPRQ)

225 I agree and it also ends that case permanently with those plaintiffs.

The real problem is lawfare incorporated with its small group of lawyers and active co conspirators in DC as judges.
Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:14 PM (E4rtv)

Except for that to happen, Roberts would have to admit the very rules he wrote, created this problem.

Which he will never do.

It's like the Trump Kennedy Center crap... in order to have standing to sue, you have to be able to show you are somehow damaged, and that there is some remedy.

How is anyone damaged by either a Name change, or fixing a building? Oh... Look... Beatty, an ex officio trustee of the Kennedy Center is the plaintiff...

Someone who is not only not damaged, and can't show damage.

This case should have been tossed due to no standing... yet Judge is YOLO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (mP0Kj)

226 219 Judges need to stop treating kooky, fringe, academic theories on gender, economic, and social issues like revealed gospel truth and we might actually get past this crazy. A few nutty professors proclaim something with their imagined expert authority, and suddenly it's an unassailable fact in every courtroom.

I don't see that changing any time soon is the disappointing part.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

The left has put partisan judges in office since FDR politicized the court. The right has dithered about it, partially because Democrats controlled the Senate for so long after the New Deal. But there is no reason for that now regardless of assholes like Thom Tillis.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (E4rtv)

227 What would be unprecedented would be if Trump sent all trannies to take Cuba. Historic. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 01, 2026 05:21 PM (D1E+2)

228 Hegseth should sue the judges for slander. They had no evidence that his decision was based only on animus in law, or in facts either. Their personal quirks should not be protected.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:21 PM (8avO+)

229 223 Hormones, those under consideration per this discussion, are mind, or at least mood altering medications that must be taken continuously, are they not? Recruiting soldiers who are required to take other mind or mood altering medications - is this allowable now?
Posted by: tubal at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (Gqar

LOL, not since they quit giving us Speed in the 70's...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2026 05:21 PM (mP0Kj)

230 Horseshit. Equal protection applies to life, liberty, or property. Being in the military is none of those things. If they were serving under an enlistment contract, then they could be paid the value of that contract and sent packing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 01, 2026 05:22 PM (D6YSl)

231 Someone who is not only not damaged, and can't show damage.

This case should have been tossed due to no standing... yet Judge is YOLO.
Posted by: Romeo13
=====
Roberts is getting old and getting squeezed from the left and right. Plus the unexploded bomb at the FISA court which he supervises and his wife's lucrative consulting business is beginning to get serious scrutiny. And that leaves out the shady adoptions and other murky things in Robert's past.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:22 PM (E4rtv)

232 Based on these judge's reasoning, the military should encourage fat people to join the military. The fatter the better, because fat people absorb more high velocity gunfire than thin, fit people do. It would be militarily sound to populate all front-line assault units with fatties. The when the bad guys run out of ammo, launch the 'fit' troops to finish them off.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 01, 2026 05:22 PM (vHfLU)

233 More, they said not allowing them in was Unconstitutional... Meaning you have a RIGHT to serve?

Yeah, tell that to the overweight recruits.
Posted by: Landreiu at June 01, 2026 05:15 PM (mP0Kj)
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It's not "constitutional" because you are not equally protecting people's access to equal treatment.

It's how they bootstrapped "equal treatment" into Cons for fag marriage.

The idea that you should have unlimited expansion of the restraint from judgment to more and more categories is the very opposite of cagey or wise. And yet that is how they have taken the very realistic restraint of legally discriminating on the basis of race or ethnicity, to the disastrous restraint of discriminating sex, to the even more disastrous and loony-toons restraint of discriminating in the public worth of sex couplings.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:22 PM (Fi81e)

234 Nood. Jill Biden.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 01, 2026 05:23 PM (ExV1e)

235 Hormones, those under consideration per this discussion, are mind, or at least mood altering medications that must be taken continuously, are they not? Recruiting soldiers who are required to take other mind or mood altering medications - is this allowable now?
Posted by: tubal at June 01, 2026 05:20 PM (Gqar

Not to mention the open wound that a fake vagina is for M->F full trans leaves you with.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:23 PM (8avO+)

236 228 Hegseth should sue the judges for slander. They had no evidence that his decision was based only on animus in law, or in facts either. Their personal quirks should not be protected.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:21 PM (8avO+)

Trump needs to put Congressional committees on notice, that the Executive branch is CO EQUAL to the Congress, and he will no longer send people to testify if Congress critters are just going to Lecture and accuse those he sends.

Respect is a two way street... at least it is supposed to be.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2026 05:23 PM (mP0Kj)

237 Remember:
The reason "trannies must be permitted to serve" is so important is it will serve as the basis for the next judge to order "and insurance companies must cover the cost of the surgery."

That is, if it's illegal animus to ban them from the military, it's illegal discrimination to not force you--through increased premiums--to fund their surgery and lifetime medical treatments.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 01, 2026 05:24 PM (73/SM)

238 Wise guy, eh? Everyone knows that Joe Besser was the worst.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming

Forgot about him. Joe Besser was the worst.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026 05:24 PM (Dv3i1)

239 "222 If captured would a jihadist rape a tranny? They'd rape goats , but the fake vagina might be Haram"

Magic 8 Ball says "Yes"!

All queers who are caught in lovely Iranian Muslim Republic are given a choice: be thrown off a building; or transition by having their d!ck cut off. Hence, the Mullahs can claim they have no queers in Iran. And I have to assume the new "women" are completely r@pable.

Posted by: Martin Tell at June 01, 2026 05:25 PM (sFNX2)

240 This kritocracy crap has to stop. Judges aren't adjudicating. They are setting national policy. Ruling/governing IOW.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 01, 2026 05:26 PM (U2++c)

241 230 Horseshit. Equal protection applies to life, liberty, or property. Being in the military is none of those things. If they were serving under an enlistment contract, then they could be paid the value of that contract and sent packing.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Nope. You are confusing due process with equal protection. Due process is an individual right, Equal Protection is a group aka collective right to be treated the same as others in the same group. Where it gets confusing, due to Scotus bumfuckery, is that they created a fundamental freedoms application of due process to the equal protection clause which is how they came up with substantive due process used in Roe. So the idea is that troons as a class are denied protection that other non-troons get to do. And that denial is because they have a fundamental freedom protected by the due process clause to be a troon and thus join the military.

That is the garbage result of Lawrence v. Texas being overruled when Scotus said sodomy was a fundamental freedom. That led to Windsor destroying DOMA, and then Obergefell, gay marriage.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:26 PM (E4rtv)

242 232 Based on these judge's reasoning, the military should encourage fat people to join the military.
____

I know nuthink!

Posted by: Sgt Schultz at June 01, 2026 05:27 PM (Dv3i1)

243 Based on these judge's reasoning, the military should encourage fat people to join the military. The fatter the better, because fat people absorb more high velocity gunfire than thin, fit people do. It would be militarily sound to populate all front-line assault units with fatties. The when the bad guys run out of ammo, launch the 'fit' troops to finish them off.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 01, 2026 05:22 PM (vHfLU)
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Well, the military acts like they don't like fatties, and were that a recognized demographic--unlike people who just feel they should have different junk--it cold be construed as "animus" toward fatties.

It's easy to illustrate the non-uniform expansion of this principle so that "groups" recognized by the court get protected in ways that "groups" the court is unconcerned about do not.

Blind people don't have the same access to driver's licenses (as i said 1000 times in the SSM debate).

But, here's the kicker, they just don't care. They aren't animated about those arguably equal "exclusions". They just don't care whether principles can be mathematically applied, but they'll pretend they're mathematic applications all the same, thank you.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:27 PM (Fi81e)

244 "Dogma" movie. Posted by Mister Scott.

Thanks for the ref.

Posted by: Rex B at June 01, 2026 05:27 PM (z8KUs)

245 @40/Dr. Fausti: "Dang, that's quite a five-head on Judge Rodgers. You could sell ad space on that."

https://youtu.be/yWGJivciDiM?t=9

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 01, 2026 05:28 PM (O7YUW)

246 If captured would a jihadist rape a tranny? They'd rape goats , but the fake vagina might be Haram"
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Muzzies aren't against raping guys in the ass. So, they'd just turn the tranny over and use the universal hole.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:29 PM (Fi81e)

247 We shall see what happens but we are lurching toward a civil war without eyes open on the left because they have gotten away with political violence for well over a century with few if any societal repercussions. So they persist in poking the bear just like the Democrat fireeaters did before the ACW.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:11 PM (E4rtv)

mob violence doesn't lead to civil wars. When NY City had its draft riots they shipped up a few pissed off Union regiments and mopped it up quickly in a few days.

I'm getting more content with letting leftist states foul their own nests while the sane people leave their political organizations.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:29 PM (8avO+)

248 Equal Protection is a group aka collective right to be treated the same as others in the same group.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:26 PM (E4rtv)
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Which is bullshit. It's nowhere near the mathematical application they pretend this to be.

Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:30 PM (Fi81e)

249 If any of you have accounts with Fidelity, double-check them now. The place appears to be run by Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Shemp seemed to have the most going on upstairs, but was also the worst of the Stooges.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 01, 2026


***
He must be the one I'm dealing with.

I've found the CEO's mailing address -- one Abby Johnson, granddaughter of the founder, in Boston, MA. (Apparently Liz Warren and Dick Durbin each wrote to her in 2022, complaining about her new policy of using Bitcoin.)

She's getting a polite letter from me. If she has anything on the ball, she'll direct somebody to do something. I'm dead tired of calling these people every week or two and being told one thing, then another.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 01, 2026 05:31 PM (wzUl9)

250 Trump needs to put Congressional committees on notice, that the Executive branch is CO EQUAL to the Congress, and he will no longer send people to testify if Congress critters are just going to Lecture and accuse those he sends.

Respect is a two way street... at least it is supposed to be.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2026 05:23 PM (mP0Kj)

I think Trump is doing better by having his media-savvy picks thrash the 'lecturers' than he would by avoiding the hearings.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:32 PM (8avO+)

251 And for the dubious Warren Court decision creating this whole line of jurisprudence, see Bolling v. Sharpe which brought in the equal protection clause in a reverse incorporation so that the federal courts could outlaw segregation in DC. Equal protection specifically mentions states, not the federal government as being limited.

The fundamental freedoms line begins in Slaughterhouse and Cruikshank, both of which need to be dumped anyway as bad law.

The real historical protection for marriage, etc. comes from the privileges and immunities clause--so important that it is in the Articles of Confederation, the new Constitution itself, the Bill of Rights (see the 9th amendment), and the 14th Amendment.

Due process always meant at the Framing as the court's legal process. Not all the bullshit dragged into it like fundamental freedoms by lazy ass justices on Scotus.

American restatement of the Magna Carta--law of the land that the sovereign is bound by law when dealing with individuals.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:32 PM (E4rtv)

252 Equal Protection is a group aka collective right to be treated the same as others in the same group.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:26 PM (E4rtv)
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Which is bullshit. It's nowhere near the mathematical application they pretend this to be.
Posted by: Axeman at June 01, 2026 05:30 PM (Fi81e)

Procrustes treated everybody equally too. If they were too tall for his bed he cut their heads off, if too short he used the rack to make them taller.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 01, 2026 05:33 PM (8avO+)

253 250 Trump needs to put Congressional committees on notice, that the Executive branch is CO EQUAL to the Congress, and he will no longer send people to testify if Congress critters are just going to Lecture and accuse those he sends.

Respect is a two way street... at least it is supposed to be.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 01, 2026 05:23 PM (mP0Kj)

I think Trump is doing better by having his media-savvy picks thrash the 'lecturers' than he would by avoiding the hearings.
Posted by: Oldcat

George Washington did just that when the Senate misbehaved with him on a treaty approval. So he set the precedent that presidents cannot be subpoened to appear before Congress, they can do so willingly but not be compelled by Courts or Congress. That action also set up the doctrine of executive privilege.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:33 PM (E4rtv)

254
Banning trannys acknowledges they are mentally ill and not fit for service, in the military at least.
Posted by: fd
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Not fit for purpose. (as the Brits would say)
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Those mine fields aren't gonna clear themselves.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 01, 2026 05:38 PM (QVmho)

255 Which is bullshit. It's nowhere near the mathematical application they pretend this to be.
Posted by: Axeman

Never meant to be mathematical. Equal protection clause starts with a reasonable premise--people are and should be equal under the law. But it became a way to import privilege on the basis of skin, sex, etc. as it is used today. Legislation has to be done primarily dealing with classes--taxpayers, non taxpayers for example. It is not treating non tax payers unfairly if they cannot get a tax refund where they paid nothing in for example. But, if I treat them differently using irrational criteria--only redheads pay taxes, all others do not, then one could argue based on nonsensical actions that the government is acting irrationally.

Or in the Louisiana case involving coffins, Lousiana banned anyone other than morticians licensed by the state from selling coffins. Monks sued the state of Louisiana and won because the rationale by the state was that it was to prevent groundwater infiltration-which is reasonable. But Louisiana required water proof vaults for all coffins anyway which meant that the coffin regulation became rent seeking rather than a rational reason.

Posted by: whig at June 01, 2026 05:38 PM (E4rtv)

256 Military rules and laws are not civil laws. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows trannies to serve in the military nor allows anyone the right to serve, what next the lame, the halt the blind?

Posted by: TJ jackson at June 01, 2026 05:40 PM (bXvrr)

257 Judith looks like Megamind

Posted by: And not in a good way at June 01, 2026 05:56 PM (1MOlm)

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