The Morning Rant: AI-Driven Redistricting?

Gee, has anyone noticed that federal legislative districts are in the news? Well, we have been screwing with them for the last 184 years, when The Apportionment Act of 1842 was passed. Some states were still electing at-large representatives, some states had multiple member districts, and it was a bit of a mess. Some states continued their wayward ways and there were other apportionment acts passed.

Oh...wait! Elbridge Gerry (of Gerrymander fame!) was screwing with them in 1812, and I am sure there were manipulations before then. The real issue is that there are no laws governing the creation of legislative districts that can rein in the base instincts of politicians. Partisan manipulation of districts has been found by the courts to be permissible, and that has overwhelmed the demands of "compactness," and maintaining political subdivisions like counties, cities, and neighborhoods within rational districts.

"Compactness?" That's a joke. Look at dozens of districts across America and the contortions the mapmakers went through to create, preserve, or destroy particular districts for partisan gain. Hell, the entirety of New England has zero members of the House of Representatives. That is insulting to our republican form of government, and even to our nonexistent but sound-bite-creating "democracy!"

So how can it be fixed, and what would it look like if it were?

Enter AI, which makes the creation of legislative maps a relatively easy process. It is by no means perfect, because the various systems are nowhere near intelligent enough to do what is requested. For instance, it took several iterations to explain to ChatGPT that Wyoming has only one legislative district, it is Republican, and Colorado doesn't get to snake one of theirs into Wyoming! It's actually an excellent way to see the many shortcomings of AI, and how far it needs to go. To be fair, my version of ChatGPT does not have access to the some of the data, like census blocks, and some of the more sophisticated GIS.

Here is a map that has some interesting restrictions. I began with rules that districts must emanate from the center of major cities, must respect "compactness," and city and county borders. I continued to tweak it, reminding the AI over and over that it must obey the specified rules. Some of the mistakes were marvelous! Pittsburgh was solidly Republican for a few iterations, and the Florida panhandle was Democrat. Yeah...AI is not smart.

This was based on 2024 voting patterns, and is probably a bit optimistic, but it shows a solid Republican majority, even with what seems to be under-representation in the major cities. The breakdown by state is illuminating, in part because smaller states are difficult to balance politically, but the larger states are also hamstrung by their large Democrat majorities in the cities.

This is an intellectual exercise, and will never be enacted by any state legislature. There is simply too much at stake. But it does expose the difficulties of creating reasonable legislative districts that represent the people, rather than the entrenched interests in the various statehouses.

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Posted by: CBD at 10:58 AM

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1 Early monkey

Posted by: Duke Lowell, Certified Sex Coach at May 12, 2026 10:59 AM (u73oe)

2 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2026 10:59 AM (VN2np)

3 Monkey was early!

Posted by: Monty Python at May 12, 2026 11:00 AM (N1DT3)

4 I’ll go get em even though I wasn’t in the art thread.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:00 AM (u73oe)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:00 AM (IXZGh)

6 Otters called

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:01 AM (u73oe)

7 This would help, but we also need to address the abomination that is Reynolds v. Sims so that representation at the state level ALSO is fair.

Posted by: Monty Python at May 12, 2026 11:02 AM (N1DT3)

8 I think the GOP will continue to get fucked with districting (see the entirety of New England and the pussywimp simps in Indiana). But we are finally -- finally -- growing some balls and fighting fire with fire. We are winning the current round of Redistricting Wars, and yugely. More, please.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 12, 2026 11:02 AM (iFTx/)

9 This iteration of the map has Virginia at R-3/D-7. Which is, interestingly, pretty much what the Dems wanted. But because they can't settle for small wins, they had to go whole hog.

And they got their shit pushed in over it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:02 AM (iNUL3)

10 Off yesterday's sock!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 11:03 AM (N1DT3)

11 We are winning the current round of Redistricting Wars, and yugely. More, please.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at May 12, 2026 11:02 AM (iFTx/)

To my mind, this can only turn the ratchet TOWARDS Republicans. There are no more Dem seats available because they've already gerrymandered themselves into their maximum number of seats. They can only lose representation now. There is nothing more to gain.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:04 AM (iNUL3)

12 I was reading some lefty threads on Trump's dispute with the Pope and I love the latest hot take...

If you disagree with the Pope you can't be Christian.

That's right folks the people that tell us they are smarter then us don't understand not only that how Catholic thought covers the Pope spouting off on politics, but these people have forgotten Protestants (and Orthodox) even exist

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)

13 If you disagree with the Pope you can't be Christian.

That's right folks the people that tell us they are smarter then us don't understand not only that how Catholic thought covers the Pope spouting off on politics, but these people have forgotten Protestants (and Orthodox) even exist

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)

Cool. Now do abortion.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:06 AM (iNUL3)

14 To my mind, this can only turn the ratchet TOWARDS Republicans. There are no more Dem seats available because they've already gerrymandered themselves into their maximum number of seats. They can only lose representation now. There is nothing more to gain.

Yep.

The Gov of MA was threatening to gerrymander recently. Her state hasn't had a GOP rep since the 90s...it was comical

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:06 AM (sKqQm)

15 Why doesn't the "leadership" propose expanding the Supreme Court right now to thirteen justices to reflect the 13 Circuits? Then Trump can nominate four new Supremes immediately and we can watch the dems backpedal so fast - "NO!!!!! NOT WHEN WE AREN'T IN CHARGE!!!!!"

Even better, have Fetterman propose it.

Posted by: joekur at May 12, 2026 11:06 AM (i04W0)

16 I'm rather curious why the competitive districts add up to zero...

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 11:07 AM (N1DT3)

17 Look at me reading AND doing the math.

The Total for the Competitive Column should be 33.
I checked it twice. But I'm not AI....

Oh, MS Now says this will be detrimental to President Trump! MS Now - all Hopium, all the time.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 12, 2026 11:07 AM (Sco7b)

18 And they got their shit pushed in over it./i]

Hmm, maybe VA is for lovers after all!

Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at May 12, 2026 11:08 AM (sKqQm)

19 Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:04 AM (iNUL3)

But they got greedy, as evil often does.

They woke up one day and said "yeah we know we cheat and get away with it all the time, but we need more power, how can we REALLY stick it in?"

And what they did was look at that big beautiful hermetically sealed can of worms and think "hey let's get just one worm". They just HAD to know what was in Pandora"s box. I hope they enjoy the answer.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:09 AM (BwrBR)

20 Big cities are largely shitholes. Everywhere. They're overwhelmingly Democrat run.

Yet, the people of these shitholes continually vote for the same D's that made it a shithole, rob from it and never improve it in any way whatsoever, ever.

Big cities are an accumulation of stupid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:09 AM (IXZGh)

21 Good News: Dems managed to spell Virginia correctly. Bad News: They sent their emergency application to SCOTUS to the wrong court. Baby steps.

.. it says "On Emergency Application To The Supreme Court of Virginia

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:09 AM (RHGPo)

22 20 Big cities are largely shitholes. Everywhere. They're overwhelmingly Democrat run.

Yet, the people of these shitholes continually vote for the same D's that made it a shithole, rob from it and never improve it in any way whatsoever, ever.

Big cities are an accumulation of stupid.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

And they believe strongly the rest of us should be ruled like this. You know, based on the very successful track record they have.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:10 AM (OoFl2)

23 Good News: Dems managed to spell Virginia correctly. Bad News: They sent their emergency application to SCOTUS to the wrong court. Baby steps.

.. it says "On Emergency Application To The Supreme Court of Virginia

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:09 AM (RHGPo)

They also misspelled "Senator."

These are the people who would rule us.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:11 AM (iNUL3)

24 The amount of corruption and election tampering is literally off the hook.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2026 11:11 AM (jehhT)

25 Those insets showing individual cities are hallucinations. Check out Chicago or San Francisco and show me the shorelines.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 12, 2026 11:11 AM (j7INY)

26 Also I believe Trump must get credit for driving the Left into a big beautiful mistake they may have otherwise reconsidered.

Half of war is letting your opponent fuck up their own damn self. I'm sure that was Sun Tzu who said that.

I must equally credit part of the GOP for *hopefully* taking full advantage and never ever looking back or giving quarter.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:11 AM (BwrBR)

27 We had a theologian Pope in living memory. Ratzinger / Benedict XVI. He was always careful to say that you could disagree with him, you just couldn't disagree with the Catechism without excellent reason. And no, he didn't write the Catechism.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:12 AM (sDWtc)

28 We either accept the idea that every state can be gerrymandered to its maximum extent by the dominant party, or we figure out some sort of politically neutral algorithm for doing it. Concepts like "compactness" and cultural affinity are not quantifiable, so you end up with a mess like the one we have now.

Yes, AI is susceptible to bias, but it's still a vast improvement over the current dog's breakfast of utterly arbitrary "rules".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:12 AM (Riz8t)

29 Good Lord, the Virginia Democrats are retarded.
Take the L and present a better record to the voters, maybe you'll do better next time.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (sDWtc)

30 Emergency! All Republican to get from street!

Posted by: Hakeem and Chuck-HELP! at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (oftw2)

31 So many numbers. My eyes are bleeding. I may have to make a taco to take away the pain.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (kSpDG)

32 Yet, the people of these shitholes continually vote for the same D's that made it a shithole, rob from it and never improve it in any way whatsoever, ever.

Let me share a story highlighting how lefty LIVs work...

A few years ago I was working in a small city. My lefty cow-workers got excited about a candidate for mayor who promised to save da Erf. One of her proposals make people stop using big cars.

Now...my cow-workers mostly drove big cars/trucks, and tended to be fat.

So the mayor wins and requires all the corporate lots be repainted so at least 50% are for compact cars and the company that runs our office building complied. Immediately my cow-workers start scratching each other's cars...exactly what the Mayor's plan wanted.

Do they blame her? No. Its the fault of the management company. And yes they all voted for her again.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (sKqQm)

33 Big cities are an accumulation of stupid.

They are the filter paper of democracy.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

34 Good Lord, the Virginia Democrats are retarded.
Take the L and present a better record to the voters, maybe you'll do better next time.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (sDWtc)

BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by: The DNC at May 12, 2026 11:14 AM (IXZGh)

35 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
Rebekah Jones suggests the new Tennessee Maps were made to draw a swastika

... if all you have is a hammer, every thing looks like a nail
... damn commies

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:15 AM (RHGPo)

36 Nice work with the AI-generated map, CBD!

I've posted my similar thoughts elsewhere.

P.S. It looks like reservations/bookings for tables at Oktoberfest this September start opening at the end of this month.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at May 12, 2026 11:16 AM (FDHJL)

37 That image of the country is exactly why the left wants to destroy the electoral college and move to the incredibly stupid 'popular vote' bullshit.

They can't win without cheating or destroying the system.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:16 AM (IXZGh)

38 Good Lord, the Virginia Democrats are retarded.
Take the L and present a better record to the voters, maybe you'll do better next time.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:13 AM (sDWtc)

They could absolutely pass the exact same map next year. But next year won't matter. They need it THIS year because of the midterms.

By 2028, it may not matter at all. By 2030, it absolutely won't matter.

For the Democrats to survive as a national party, it MUST happen now.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:16 AM (iNUL3)

39 The left: Why are you people so racist? Why do you want to discriminate against people?

Also the left: Gerrymandering is wrong. Period.

The SC: Sorry, you aren't allowed to use racial discrimination to gerrymander

Also, also the left: WHAT?!? You are banning us setting up racist gerrymandering? Why do you hate democracy!?!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:16 AM (sKqQm)

40 Thx CBD
I'm really hoping the Virginia Dems in response to the coming SC loss unleash their crack suicide squad ( Life of Brian reference)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:17 AM (gu0hJ)

41 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
Rebekah Jones suggests the new Tennessee Maps were made to draw a swastika

Hint: YOU are the baddies, stupid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:17 AM (IXZGh)

42 This is an intellectual exercise, and will never be enacted by any state legislature.

Sadly. We'd have to expect the thieves to hand out anti-theft devices.

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2026 11:18 AM (ReYtg)

43 >>>... if all you have is a hammer, every thing looks like a nail
... damn commies

Posted by: SMOD

>What's the proper hammer for a commie?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 12, 2026 11:18 AM (kSpDG)

44 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
Rebekah Jones suggests the new Tennessee Maps were made to draw a swastika

... if all you have is a hammer, every thing looks like a nail
... damn commies
Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:15 AM (RHGPo)

Except of course, the guy who hates the Jews and has a Nazi tattoo.

CLEARLY he's not a Nazi, he's just ironic... because he's on the left.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 11:18 AM (N1DT3)

45 With county level maps leftists will say something like, "Well trees aren't supposed to vote you know...the people live in the cities!"

Sort of. Yes those cities are dense with illegals, creating rotten boroughs.

You in fly over land get one federal rep for you and your fellow 800k citizens.

In the blue shitties though? Half or more might be illegals.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:18 AM (sKqQm)

46 Unfortunately my county has been overrun by NYC refugees who vote exactly like they did in NYC expecting a different result

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:19 AM (gu0hJ)

47 >What's the proper hammer for a commie?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 12, 2026 11:18 AM (kSpDG)

Sledge

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 11:19 AM (N1DT3)

48 Where my district be at?

Posted by: Jasmine Crockett, race hustler at May 12, 2026 11:19 AM (j+GfC)

49 Just reminder: Elections matter. ALL of them. Local, state, and federal.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 12, 2026 11:19 AM (g8Ew8)

50 I'm so hoping the Dems embrace Rebekah Jones. She makes bat shit crazy look normal

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:21 AM (gu0hJ)

51 Virginia Democrats and AG Jay Jones appealed *TO THE WRONG COURT* while trying to get the Supreme Court to help reinstate their 10D-1R gerrymandered map

Filing with SCOTUS, Jay “hopping Jennifer Gilbert’s children would die” Jones wrote to "Supreme Court of Virginia"

LMAO! You can't make this up 🤡

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:21 AM (RHGPo)

52 The US map looks like an MRI of a spreading cancer in a human body.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:21 AM (Gqar8)

53 Conservatism: Limited government. Freedoms granted by God Almighty. Free enterprise.

Liberalism: Government controls everything. Limited rights. Denounces God and all He provides.

Communism: Government controls everything. Few rights. Government is god.

Naziism: Government controls everything. Fewer rights. Government is god. Class society to the extreme were some are killed off.

All other isms: Government controls everything. No rights. Government is god. Slavery for all.

But they continually label the right as being the bad guys.

The proof is in the pudding.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:22 AM (IXZGh)

54 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

He also is having her play Clytemnestra.

*bangs head into keyboard*

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:23 AM (2GVsD)

55 The US map looks like an MRI of a spreading cancer in a human body.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:21 AM

Lets hope it's not 'vaccinated.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:23 AM (IXZGh)

56 That's neat!

Yes, there's no perfection but No Justice, No Peace is now the biggest issue regarding state voting maps.

Organizing for Action (OFA) is no longer operating as a standalone, independent organization. In 2019, OFA formally merged with the National Democratic Redistricting Committee (NDRC) to become All On The Line, focusing heavily on gerrymandering and redistricting. The original OFA structure and nationwide grassroots advocacy work were folded into this new initiative, with many digital tools and materials inherited by the Obama Alumni Association.

In 2019, OFA shifted its primary focus from general issue advocacy (health care, climate change) to redistricting, joining with Attorney General Eric Holder’s campaign. The successor campaign, All On The Line, operates under the NDRC to combat gerrymandering and restore fairness to elections.

Training materials and organizing manuals from the original OFA are now managed by the Obama Alumni Association, preserving the group's "Respect - Empower - Include" principles.

While the national 501(c)(4) entity dissolved, some local chapters (like OFA Westside LA) continued to operate independently. (AI Overview)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 12, 2026 11:24 AM (NFX2v)

57 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

He also is having her play Clytemnestra.

*bangs head into keyboard*
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:23 AM (2GVsD)

Hollywood can't die fast enough.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:24 AM (IXZGh)

58 48 Where my district be at?
Posted by: Jasmine Crockett, race hustler at May 12, 2026 11:19 AM (j+GfC)
That boat done been paddle to the bank.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2026 11:24 AM (LHPAg)

59 They can't win without cheating or destroying the system.

And they want to destroy the system to facilitate cheating. Under a popular vote, they literally only need to cheat in one large locale. If they want to make it believable, from several large locales. Generate votes from, what, New York City, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, Chicago in any amount needed.

National popular vote makes it far easier to cheat in friendly states where they can know they won’t get caught, and if they do they can know there won’t be consequences.

The electoral system puts an upper limit to the usefulness of cheating in any one state. It doesn’t matter how much they cheat in California; it won’t deliver more than California’s electoral vote total. Cheating in Democrat-run states that will let them get away with it doesn’t help them, because those electoral votes are already in the bag. They need to cheat in states where there is at least a tiny chance that someone will expose and prosecute—they had to work very, very hard to keep red states from restoring fair elections in 2020) , because those are the states where cheating gains them electoral votes.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 12, 2026 11:25 AM (EXyHK)

60 So, how many people does each rep represent, on average.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

61 Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:15 AM (RHGPo)

The Jew Hate is coming from inside the house.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (BwrBR)

62 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

... destined for NetFlix

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (RHGPo)

63 I wonder what the map looks like after a legitimate, certifiable election, which I now know has never happened in my lifetime?

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (ReYtg)

64 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

He also is having her play Clytemnestra.

Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.

Greece's greatest young warrior as a middle aged petite woman who chopped her boobs off?

Who the hell would go to see this crap?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

65 54 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

He also is having her play Clytemnestra.

*bangs head into keyboard*
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:23 AM (2GVsD)

Yeah. Yeah. Greek errybody!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (bss/y)

66 27 We had a theologian Pope in living memory. Ratzinger / Benedict XVI. He was always careful to say that you could disagree with him, you just couldn't disagree with the Catechism without excellent reason. And no, he didn't write the Catechism.
Posted by: gKWVE
======
His popular books on theology are excellent and well cited so you can go deeper on particular topics if you want.

Not Catholic so I will leave it to others to evaluate his performance as Pope but he was probably one of the top theologians of his lifetime.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:27 AM (E4rtv)

67 Bespoke AI filmmaking cannot come fast enough.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:28 AM (BwrBR)

68 Bespoke AI filmmaking cannot come fast enough.

Case in point:

https://twitter.com/i/status/2053828567574991052

https://twitter.com/i/status/2051647381981290697

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

69 was Helen Of Troy a Negro?

Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (ZxPkt)

70 CLEARLY he's not a Nazi, he's just ironic... because he's on the left.

... National Socialist versus a Socialist versus a Communist

"Long hair, short hair, what's the difference once the heads blowed off" -- Max Yasgur, National Lampoon's 'Woodstock'

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (RHGPo)

71 What would sound better?

Matt Damon as Odysseus yelling "Let's go!" or "Men of Greece forward!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (2GVsD)

72 If that AI generated map is even close to being correct, the amount of fraud in the last 6 election cycles has been massive. Overwhelmingly so.

Trump's first term was a serious outlier.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (jehhT)

73 When AI makes all these Hollywood fags into the irrelevant cave drawings they are, it will be a very satisfying day indeed.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (BwrBR)

74 It's one of the fiercest debates in politics these days: Who is the worst American politician of the 21st century? Some say Hillary Clinton, for obvious reasons. Others insist Kamala Harris is worse, also for obvious reasons.

Correction: It was one of the fiercest debates in politics. For now, the matter has been settled. Kamala is definitely worse. Sorry, Hillary. Or congratulations.

.. I've said since she started positioning for 2024, that Kamala was a "buffoon". Her inability to simply answer simple question beggars the question of her ability to make simple decisions.

... “The governor and I and we were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time. Right? The significance of the passage of time,” Ms Harris said.

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (RHGPo)

75 Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.

Greece's greatest young warrior as a middle aged petite woman who chopped her boobs off?

Who the hell would go to see this crap?!?
Posted by: 18-1
======
I never like Nolan's other films that much anyway including his Dunkirk movie. So, I simply don't care anymore what Hollyweird does and says. The whole rotten edifice of our entertainment industry deserves to topple into the dust like the House of Usher. All fake, gay, and about as entertaining as cleaning a toilet.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (E4rtv)

76 Greece's greatest young warrior as a middle aged petite woman who chopped her boobs off?

Who the hell would go to see this crap?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

I was so, so excited to go see this when it was announced.

Now... I'm just not going to see it at all. I don't believe I'm the only person who feels this way.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (iNUL3)

77 71 What would sound better?

Matt Damon as Odysseus yelling "Let's go!" or "Men of Greece forward!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (2GVsD)

Rhetorical.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (bss/y)

78 Yeah. Yeah. Greek errybody!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (bss/y)
------

Don't threaten me with a good time!!!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (oqH4h)

79 Rebekah Jones suggests the new Tennessee Maps were made to draw a swastika

It would be fun to ask a Democrat WHY the Nazis were bad just to see if they would mention the Holocaust.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (ExV1e)

80 Matt Damon as Odysseus yelling "Let's go!" or "Men of Greece forward!"

Dude!

Posted by: Matt Damon at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

81 Chrstiopher Nolan thinks so.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (2GVsD)

82 There was a whole Homeric epic called the Aethiopis.
It didn't star Helen of Troy. Because she was a Greek, not an Ethiopian. The Greeks knew the difference.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (sDWtc)

83 Happy birthday Yogi Berra! B May 12th, 1925

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (VN2np)

84 64 Christopher Nolan confirms in an interview Lupita Nyongo is Helen of Troy.

He also is having her play Clytemnestra.

Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.

Greece's greatest young warrior as a middle aged petite woman who chopped her boobs off?

Who the hell would go to see this crap?!?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

Oh, that's great news!

I was going to sarcastically comment that the movie needed more trannies. But that's already covered.

That worked well. Let's try it again.

An incredibly beautiful woman is now rummaging around upstairs ready to bring me a sandwich so I'll have the strength to entertain when her hot girlfriends arrive.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (Sco7b)

85 >Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.
----
tell me you're joking
unless he's deliberately trying for box office bomb

Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (ZxPkt)

86 was Helen Of Troy a Negro?

Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (ZxPkt)
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Troy Ohio?

Could be.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (1o8D5)

87 I was so, so excited to go see this when it was announced.

Now... I'm just not going to see it at all. I don't believe I'm the only person who feels this way.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (iNUL3)

Same. I had issue with Troy when it came out (why do all the dudes look like they are auditioning for a Loreal commercial?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (bss/y)

88
MUNKEY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (y9nCu)

89
IMO, a national AI- or computer-drawn representation map is a reasonable aspiration for a constitutional amendment or federal law some time in the distant future.

This honestly does not seem reasonable to me:
>>Partisan manipulation of districts has been found by the courts to be permissible

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (XJ22o)

90 69 was Helen Of Troy a Negro?
Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:29 AM (ZxPkt)

Yes. Just like the Egyptians in the Pharoahnic times. All black. And Jesus, he was obviously black, because came outta Egypt doncha know. ( Had a black guy who was perfesser make that claim, publicly, once ).

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (Gqar8)

91 *okay, technically another Milesian - Arctinus - is credited with the Aethiopis

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (sDWtc)

92 83 Yogi would have his birthday party here, but nobody comes here. Too crowded.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (gm9Sb)

93 >Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.
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tell me you're joking
unless he's deliberately trying for box office bomb

She play Achilles' ghost, not the warrior in the flesh, or so I'm told.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (Riz8t)

94 Happy birthday Yogi Berra! B May 12th, 1925
Posted by: rickb223

Wow. He's been stealing picanic baskets for a long time.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (77rzZ)

95 Oh and that's not the worst not by far...that's Ellen Page as Achilles.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)
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So now it's a no-boobs thread?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2026 11:32 AM (1o8D5)

96 Christopher Nolan is making Troy into a cinematic masterpiece. And I detest the movie Troy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:33 AM (2GVsD)

97 tell me you're joking
unless he's deliberately trying for box office bomb
Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:31 AM (ZxPkt)

I almost wonder if he is skullfucking the punditry with a bait and switch. But the opposite of how it normally is.

OR he is going completely whacky, but believes he can make it work with editing and shots. I don't know.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:33 AM (bss/y)

98 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at May 12, 2026 11:33 AM (2Ez/1)

99 Even Achilles' ghost would be a hunk.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:34 AM (2GVsD)

100 Hollyweird needs to redo the old Charlie Chan movies. Get Lizzo to play Charlie and Rosie Odonnell to be Number 1 son.

Posted by: Chicken Chow Mein at May 12, 2026 11:34 AM (j+GfC)

101 Updated with modern language:

Helen, you have to go back to your husband.

Whoa, gag me with a spoon!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:34 AM (u73oe)

102 Yeah. Yeah. Greek errybody!
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Mmmmmmm. Gyro. 🥙

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (VN2np)

103 99 Even Achilles' ghost would be a hunk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:34 AM (2GVsD)

The hilarious thing is old brad pitt is right there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (bss/y)

104 73 When AI makes all these Hollywood fags into the irrelevant cave drawings they are, it will be a very satisfying day indeed.
Posted by: ...

We are about ten years away if the component supply bottleneck can be fixed for feature length films. Probably more like a couple of years before photo realistic shorts can be produced, less if anime or other animated techniques.

Been following Amelia videos which are probably using big iron as a test for how good the technology is. And it is there for ads as you can see with the Pratt LA campaign videos.

It will be as if you imagine it, the computer can create your imagination. Course the downside is truly horrific stuff of nightmares for some which will probably lead to depraved continuation in reality for them. Imagine the AI movie tech in the hands of Muzzies for example or violent Troons and what they will produce.

Apple and the Garden of Eden all over again.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (E4rtv)

105 Is James Clyburn on the way out? Kamala hardest hit. Yeah, yeah, TJM, he had nothing to do with Biden.

For more than 33 years, Jim Clyburn has gotten more powerful in his DEI district.

Yet he opposes school choice, child-support enforcement, anti-crime measures, and other crucial reforms to help his poor black constituents escape poverty.

Good riddance, Jim.

https://is.gd/GM6vc8

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

106 Christopher Nolan is using a 2017 translation. There starts part of the rot.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (2GVsD)

107 Communism: Government controls everything. Few rights. Government is god.

Naziism: Government controls everything. Fewer rights. Government is god. Class society to the extreme were some are killed off.

Naziism: Government controls everything but citizens can own things. This can result in people who are not government drones having nice houses or cars. This is the big complaint that leftists have against it. They just used the "killing undesirables" as an excuse.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (ExV1e)

108 AI gets it information from Wikepedia and Reddit. Now you know why AI is not smart.

Posted by: Ken James at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (1Xy6x)

109 I wonder what the map looks like after a legitimate, certifiable election, which I now know has never happened in my lifetime?

FL before modest vote protection measures in 2018:

R 49.6
D 49.2

FL 4 years later after modest vote protection measures"

R: 59
D: 40

About 900K dem votes just...disappeared.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)

110 >60 Bulg: Each representative currently represents between 600k-700k (except of course in states that have populations lower than that).

By eliminating the Permanent Apportionment Act of (I think) 1921, restoring something more like the original ratio of 1:30k, we'd have something like 7k representatives.

We manage that by 1) Adding three legislatively-elected senators per state to restore states' control of their senators, 2) Eliminating Congressional staff, 3) creative term limits, and 4) Restricting bill creation.

And by moving Congress over to RFK stadium.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (FDHJL)

111 Nolan - 21st century Brit with - no, scratch any further defining - 21st century Brit will suffice.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (Gqar8)

112 I continued to tweak it, reminding the AI over and over that it must obey the specified rules.

"Do you want the hose again? DO YOU!?"

Posted by: NR Pax at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (+4yJ5)

113 BLAAAAAT

Posted by: Chris Nolan's sound editor at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (sDWtc)

114 Mennaleus, Helen has departed for Troy with Paris!

Bitches be gettin stitches!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (u73oe)

115 106 Christopher Nolan is using a 2017 translation. There starts part of the rot.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (2GVsD)

A specifically female intersectional interpretation of the Odyssey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:36 AM (bss/y)

116 It will be as if you imagine it, the computer can create your imagination. Course the downside is truly horrific stuff of nightmares for some which will probably lead to depraved continuation in reality for them.

I actually think some people will suffer psychotic breaks from really horrifying AI. When the Exorcist first came out, people checked themselves into mental health clinics. Those special effects look cartoonish and silly now.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

117 So now it's a no-boobs thread?
Posted by: Biden's Dog

It's never a no-boobs thread as long as I'm around.

Discovered a new boobalicious actress a couple of weeks ago -- Madeline Smith, Brit lass. Was in a lot of Hammer horror stuff. One of her flicks was on Svengoolie Saturday before last. She was also a Bond girl ("Live and Let Die").

IMdB notes that her trademark was her "full bosom."

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

118 Trojan War, Peloponnesian War, Battle of the Nile Delta, Samnite Wars, Wars of the Diadochi , Revolt of Nizar and it's always the Trojan War.

I keep hearing about how Africans invented everything (including Democracy) but the apparently have a very boring past.

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:39 AM (RHGPo)

119 The Troy McClure story?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2026 11:39 AM (Cqx++)

120 116 It will be as if you imagine it, the computer can create your imagination. Course the downside is truly horrific stuff of nightmares for some which will probably lead to depraved continuation in reality for them.

I actually think some people will suffer psychotic breaks from really horrifying AI. When the Exorcist first came out, people checked themselves into mental health clinics. Those special effects look cartoonish and silly now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

Tapping into primal fears will do that.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:39 AM (Gqar8)

121 When the Exorcist first came out, people checked themselves into mental health clinics.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
=

After seeing Jaws, I no long wanted to go to the beach.

Also worried about taking a shower.

And don't get me started on SNL's land shark!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (1o8D5)

122 Helen of Troy was a princess of Sparta (Mycenean Sparta NOT Gerard Butler Sparta)

My guess on the real history based on what we actually know...Priam was probably a Greek adventurer, and he stole Helen for one of his sons to get a claim on the throne of Sparta. The problem is Menelaus was able to put together an alliance to go get her back instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

123 unless he's deliberately trying for box office bomb

Springtime for Nolan and Hollywood
Odysseus is flaming and gay…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (EXyHK)

124 The biggest thing exposed from these various AI-driven apportionment maps is how much Democrats cheat in theirs.

And how much of a built-in advantage they've been coasting on for near 100 years; since FDR.

There is almost no one alive that has seen a Democrat Party have to play on a national level playing field--it's always been tilted heavily in their favor.

And that's before the massive media advantage they enjoyed until the late 80s and 90s.

Democrats are not, and have been for 100 years, the party of Americans--they are the party forced on America via various schemes both legal and illegal.
Mostly illegal.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (MtSIY)

125 Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (E4rtv)

The most chef kiss thing about it is that they spent a decade or two laughing in the faces of those who built them up, supported their work, cheered their names, promoted them, adored them even.

They did it because they got too big for their boots. They had a monopoly on visual media and decided to rub it in.

And now when the computers come to replace them, they will find their friends on the Left are all mere Judas's looking for the next handout or payoff and shiny new toy. And the ones who would have fought to keep them, who would have organized and spent their hard earned money to make sure entertainment stayed real with true human actors, are all in unison gonna say.... "nah bro."

Pedowood. You told us to go fuck ourselves. And as your industry crumbles into dust, that is EXACTLY what we will be doing. You will recognize it from our moans of orgasmic pleasure.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:41 AM (BwrBR)

126 Matt Damon as Odysseus yelling "Let's go!" or "Men of Greece forward!"

Dude!
Posted by: Matt Damon at May 12, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)
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*tweet* pronoun personal foul, "Persons of Greece..."

Posted by: WisRich at May 12, 2026 11:41 AM (G0vdT)

127 Helen of Troy had the face that launched a thousand ships. That Lupita person is the face that sank the Iranian navy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:41 AM (gu0hJ)

128 122 Helen of Troy was a princess of Sparta (Mycenean Sparta NOT Gerard Butler Sparta)

My guess on the real history based on what we actually know...Priam was probably a Greek adventurer, and he stole Helen for one of his sons to get a claim on the throne of Sparta. The problem is Menelaus was able to put together an alliance to go get her back instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

Dragging History into a movie discussion - or, never bring a book to a movie fight.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:42 AM (Gqar8)

129 You know, a town with money's a little like the mule with the spinning wheel. No one knows how he got it and danged if he knows how to use it.

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

130 I keep hearing about how Africans invented everything (including Democracy) but the apparently have a very boring past.

Ethiopia had some impact on the ancient world, but sub-Saharan Africa had very limited long distance trade to the rest of the world until the Arabs wielding the flag of Jihad followed the trade routes back across the deserts and started mass slaving.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:42 AM (sKqQm)

131 96 Christopher Nolan is making Troy into a cinematic masterpiece. And I detest the movie Troy.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I detest modern directors and their conceits of Hollyweird. Their purpose is to entertain me; not teach me anything nor cater to the perverted tastes of elites.

No entertainment, you won't get squat from me. Plenty of other times and directors from olden times to get that from. Modern music has already driven me from the hideous and vile music scene to the past. Modern art is so repulsive that even money laundering and tax avoiding elites are ashamed of it. Modern sculpture resembles whatever one can find in the average garbage dump. And modern literature is worse than the Sears Catalog of yore, not even good enough for toilet paper in an outhouse. Plays and theater, boring, tendentious, and morally corrupt aimed purposefully at offending the rubes. Modern architecture, something that inspires a deep hatred for humanity and architects that create these anti human monstrosities.

And yet, all of this will be swept away from this horrendous epoch of history just like history has flushed rancid elites down the toilet multiple times in the past.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:42 AM (E4rtv)

132 I actually think some people will suffer psychotic breaks from really horrifying AI.

Like the dude at Florida State that went on a shooting spree after consulting with AI about the best way to do it.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 12, 2026 11:42 AM (+4yJ5)

133 MATT DAMON!!!

Posted by: Matt Damon at May 12, 2026 11:43 AM (IXZGh)

134 I keep hearing about how Africans invented everything (including Democracy) but the apparently have a very boring past.

And when you ask why places like Haiti are not WAKANDA FOREVAH! they blame racism.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 12, 2026 11:43 AM (+4yJ5)

135 Who's playing Penelope, Odysseus' wife?

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

136 Tapping into primal fears will do that.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:39 AM (Gqar

I saw Primal Fears open for Tears for Fears at Dodger Stadium in '91. Scary stuff.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 11:44 AM (95Ab8)

137 Not far from me is Clovis, NM. So I looked up their rep. I have the impression that the area should be fairly conservative, influenced by the AFB nearby. I’ve been wrong on that score before but what the hell?

Rep is Teresa Leger Fernandez (D). Check out her district. All of northern NM, including Santa Fe, and a good chunk of the east, just barely including Roswell.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 11:44 AM (T6aVk)

138 An interesting fact that I have not heard brought up --

When NJ was *created* they gerrymandered Passaic County to dilute the influence of the urban / industrial region with upstate farmland. It is clear that at the founding they did not want that high density region to have power over the honest people of the state.

(And I know this thanks to FDRs WPA make-work history project for the state)

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (jnIP3)

139 99 Even Achilles' ghost would be a hunk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026

Yeah, why would his ghost suddenly be scrawny and fem?

And which scrawny fem person really wants to work in the shadow of Brad Pitt? That man is aging and is still hot as hades.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (OoFl2)

140 The lines may be changing, but every voter still has the same amount of voting power, one vote, that they had. It's just that this Supreme Court said your race doesn't necessarily have to dictate your political identity. The fact that you're an American citizen and you're franchised gives you one vote. That is your political identity and it is incumbent upon both parties, Republicans and Democrats, to run people who speak not to just one constituency, but all American interests. To me, that's, that's how the November election should be run.”

Posted by: SMOD at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (RHGPo)

141 The WA GOP is fucking useless. More useless than John Thune or Mitch McConnell in fact.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (abIsI)

142 @135 Anne Hathaway, who's annoying

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (gu0hJ)

143 108 AI gets it information from Wikepedia and Reddit. Now you know why AI is not smart.
Posted by: Ken James at May 12, 2026 11:35 AM (1Xy6x)

AI isn’t.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (T6aVk)

144 Original Odysseus: My name is no man (hahahaha stupid cyclops!)

New Odysseus: MATT DAMON.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (sKqQm)

145 Who's playing Penelope, Odysseus' wife?
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

That chick with the big mouth.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (ExV1e)

146 If I'm ever in the vicinity of Matt Damon, I'm going to just repeat his name in that South Park retard voice and see what he does.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (IXZGh)

147 Anne Hathaway is Penelope.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (2GVsD)

148 That chick with the big mouth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

AI Martha Rae? They're Peter Cushinging her?

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (77rzZ)

149 That chick with the big mouth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (ExV1e)

————

That really narrows it down.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (u73oe)

150 144 Original Odysseus: My name is no man (hahahaha stupid cyclops!)

New Odysseus: MATT DAMON.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (sKqQm)

Remember the 90s tv mini series of the Odyssey? Armand Assante as Odysseus.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (bss/y)

151 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (IXZGh)

I would imagine he gets that about 8 times a day.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (BwrBR)

152 Pedowood. You told us to go fuck ourselves. And as your industry crumbles into dust, that is EXACTLY what we will be doing. You will recognize it from our moans of orgasmic pleasure.
Posted by: ...
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As I noted above, it is the entire rotten anti human and vile entertainment industry that has become rotten due to leftists. Chuck all of it on the trash heap to be burned and start again.

Reading Will and Ariel Durant's History of Civilizations, I have not found a historical epoch where the present Western culture has been so devoid of truth, beauty, and eternal values. Parts of it, yes, the entirety of all entertainment, no.
Our culture peaked somewhere about 1960's and has since then descended into a vast wasteland of putrid content.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv)

153 Steven Miller is pointing out that there are at least 40 seats that will flip to solid R in 2031.
Just from an accurate Census and current districting alone.
Ending vote by mail could push that higher.

The Dems were able to weather the Gingrich Revolution because they 1) still had Blue Dog Dems in the South 2) minority-majority districts in the South and 3) massive media advantage.

A 40 seat flip is the end of the Democrat Party as a national force.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (MtSIY)

154 135 Anne Hathaway, who's annoying

Juliette Binoche did a good take on the role in The Return.

Though looking at the rest of Nolan's cast, Hathaway might be one of his better actresses.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (sKqQm)

155 And when you ask why places like Haiti are not WAKANDA FOREVAH! they blame racism.
Posted by: NR Pax

I'm willing to meet in the middle and blame the French.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (sDWtc)

156 147 Anne Hathaway is Penelope.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (2GVsD)

Could be worse - could be Emma Watson.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (Gqar8)

157
I actually think some people will suffer psychotic breaks from really horrifying AI. When the Exorcist first came out, people checked themselves into mental health clinics. Those special effects look cartoonish and silly now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

The staircase spider walk is still nightmare fuel, although I suspect that they dumped it in the original cut because they couldn't convincingly do the scene without digital enhancement.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (y9nCu)

158 127 Helen of Troy had the face that launched a thousand ships. That Lupita person is the face that sank the Iranian navy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May

I disagree. Lupita is stunning. But she isn’t representative of Helen of Troy. Should we suspend disbelief for it? Maybe we could if it wasn’t DEI crap all hours of the day being shoved.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (OoFl2)

159 149 That chick with the big mouth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (ExV1e)

————

That really narrows it down.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (u73oe)

I would think Julia Roberts before Anne Hathaway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (bss/y)

160 How about Hollywood make an epic film on Mansa Musa with Henry Cavill in the lead role?

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (T6aVk)

161 Steven Miller is pointing out that there are at least 40 seats that will flip to solid R in 2031.
Just from an accurate Census and current districting alone.
Ending vote by mail could push that higher.

And they could lose ANOTHER 40 seats if we stop counting illegals.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (sKqQm)

162
I would imagine he gets that about 8 times a day.
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (BwrBR)

Maybe. I just think he'd fly off the handle at one point. It would entertain me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (IXZGh)

163 142 @135 Anne Hathaway, who's annoying
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (gu0hJ)
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Harsh crowd. I've always liked her regardless of her politics.

Posted by: WisRich at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (G0vdT)

164 One really good thing about living in a red district in a red state. At the end of the month we have Old Fort Days in Fort Smith. Festivities include parades, rodeo, street food, gun shows, and the Running of the Democrats. Brutal, down by the river. Gambling permitted.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

165 A 40 seat flip is the end of the Democrat Party as a national force.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (MtSIY)

Have to win 2028 first.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (bss/y)

166 I saw Primal Fears open for Tears for Fears at Dodger Stadium in '91. Scary stuff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Be funnier if you said "Primal Scream". Both bands owed their names and (in TFFs' case) their style to Arthur Janov.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (sDWtc)

167 And when you ask why places like Haiti are not WAKANDA FOREVAH! they blame racism.

I've seen a lot of "man on the street interviews" where when asked to name an African country a fair number respond with Wakanda.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)

168 Don't you love how all six new england states have zero republican representation?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (tAhJv)

169

the matter has been settled. Kamala is definitely worse. Sorry, Hillary.

Posted by: SMOD

================

I'm 100% sure that Hillary is throwing vases over how stupid the current Dems are. "If they'd supported ME in 2008 instead of that teaboy..." The country should have been stamped with HER legacy by now! The ones who DIDN'T get booted out of electoral politics twice should come to her for advice. But unfortunately for her, the inverse proportion between her talent and her ambition is the greatest thing about her.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (XJ22o)

170 And they could lose ANOTHER 40 seats if we stop counting illegals.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (sKqQm)

Or non citizens period.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (T6aVk)

171 147 Anne Hathaway is Penelope.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12,

I don’t think Anne Hathaway is remarkably pretty. She isn’t ugly, she is very talented, but she isn’t a beauty for the ages.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (OoFl2)

172 Hathaway is not really objectionable to me. Certainly not like some others.

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (Gqar8)

173 That chick with the big mouth.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (ExV1e)

Tanned, lesbian and READY!!!!

Posted by: Sandra Bernhard at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (IXZGh)

174 Don't you love how all six new england states have zero republican representation?

Leftwing responses to that:

Its because Republicans don't bother trying to appeal to people in New England

Or

Uh...its random chance

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (sKqQm)

175 @155 the French got beaten and left Haiti. Then they presented the Haitians with a bill for the property taken . And the brain damaged Haitians paid it. It took them about 140 years. I blame the Haitian IQ

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (gu0hJ)

176 Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (OoFl2)

The young actresses I follow on Instagram had pictures of them going to see 'The Devil Wears Prada 2.'

Did that interest you enough to drag you into the theaters?

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 12, 2026 11:51 AM (Sco7b)

177 Ethiopia had some impact on the ancient world, but sub-Saharan Africa had very limited long distance trade to the rest of the world until the Arabs wielding the flag of Jihad followed the trade routes back across the deserts and started mass slaving.
Posted by: 18-1

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Their other big contribution was the Mali silver mines. their slave driving king was somewhat renowned for travelling around the world in his gold plated Cadillac with a continental kit and Daytons, wearing a fuzzy hat and hitting his hoes upside their head.

Long story short, whatever wealth they had, they blow through pretty quick.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 11:51 AM (jnIP3)

178 *of course Janov is now considered a quack, but TFF and PS both got some good tunes out of him (and out of a lot of drugs)

Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:51 AM (sDWtc)

179 Yogi Berra was awarded a Purple Heart for his Navy exploits on D-Day.

Posted by: Rizzuto-Berra Bowl at May 12, 2026 11:51 AM (oftw2)

180 Anne Hathaway is Penelope.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:46 AM (2GVsD)

Could be worse - could be Emma Watson.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (Gqar

Dominique Jackson

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:52 AM (ExV1e)

181 I don’t think Anne Hathaway is remarkably pretty. She isn’t ugly, she is very talented, but she isn’t a beauty for the ages.
Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (OoFl2)

Huh. I think she's beautiful. Harder to put my finger on why, but backbrain/wetware stuff is sometimes hard to explain.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:52 AM (bss/y)

182 Remember the 90s tv mini series of the Odyssey? Armand Assante as Odysseus.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (bss/y)

That was a damn good miniseries. Bernadette Peters nailed it as Circe.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 11:52 AM (T6aVk)

183
Harsh crowd. I've always liked her regardless of her politics.
Posted by: WisRich

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Rlly? What's likable about that idiot? She's one of the worst. She's so dumb she almost married some guy who was prosecuted for multiple federal felonies, went to prison, and got deported.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 11:52 AM (XJ22o)

184 120 116 It will be as if you imagine it, the computer can create your imagination. Course the downside is truly horrific stuff of nightmares for some which will probably lead to depraved continuation in reality for them.

I actually think some people will suffer psychotic breaks from really horrifying AI. When the Exorcist first came out, people checked themselves into mental health clinics. Those special effects look cartoonish and silly now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

Tapping into primal fears will do that.
Posted by: tubal

Primal perversions and evil for a lot of folks. Pedoes with AI films is not something I even want to imagine. Ditto for spree killers.

And the insidious desire inspired, like by a certain snake in a certain Garden, to do monstrous deeds is baked into the cake. Whispering in their ears that what horrid acts they desire are actually good if they carry them out. It will fool them to imagine as if they were gods beyond good and evil as Nietzsche put it.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:52 AM (E4rtv)

185 176 Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (OoFl2)

The young actresses I follow on Instagram had pictures of them going to see 'The Devil Wears Prada 2.'

Did that interest you enough to drag you into the theaters?
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 12, 2026

Nope! I never saw the first one. lol. It is rare for me to sit still long enough to watch a movie. I did watch Melania at home but it was broken into 2 sessions.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:53 AM (OoFl2)

186 Huh. I think she's beautiful. Harder to put my finger on why, but backbrain/wetware stuff is sometimes hard to explain.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

A lot of it for me is those eyes.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:53 AM (77rzZ)

187 I'm 100% sure that Hillary is throwing vases over how stupid the current Dems are. "If they'd supported ME in 2008 instead of that teaboy..." The country should have been stamped with HER legacy by now! The ones who DIDN'T get booted out of electoral politics twice should come to her for advice. But unfortunately for her, the inverse proportion between her talent and her ambition is the greatest thing about her.

Knowing what we know now about BO, would Hillary have been a better or worse president? It's like choosing between Hantavirus and Ebola.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

188 Helen of Troy was a princess of Sparta (Mycenean Sparta NOT Gerard Butler Sparta)

My guess on the real history based on what we actually know...Priam was probably a Greek adventurer, and he stole Helen for one of his sons to get a claim on the throne of Sparta. The problem is Menelaus was able to put together an alliance to go get her back instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

I'm pretty sure the "fighting for Helen!" was all propaganda to justify sacking the wealth of Troy.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 11:53 AM (N1DT3)

189 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (gu0hJ)

190 Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv)

It is at its core a revolt against God. I want to blame the hippie movement but I think that was partially a CIA creation which means the revolt started earlier.

The burning creativity and life in America seems to have waned considerably. The Left just throws a wet blanket over everything they touch. Usually after milking it.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (BwrBR)

191 To ensure the Democrat Party never rises again--and to further kill the Party--red states need to start pushing proposals that give state-wide control over cities.

Since the whole state is affected by the cities, the whole state should have a vote in the management of the city:
The mayor of the capital and any city over 1 million is a state-wide election.
And a city council seat for every next million population.

Local control of large cities is a festering failure.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (MtSIY)

192 164 One really good thing about living in a red district in a red state. At the end of the month we have Old Fort Days in Fort Smith. Festivities include parades, rodeo, street food, gun shows, and the Running of the Democrats. Brutal, down by the river. Gambling permitted.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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Need to bring back public hangings and Judge Parker. Would rapidly deplete the state of criminals.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (E4rtv)

193 I don’t think Anne Hathaway is remarkably pretty. She isn’t ugly, she is very talented, but she isn’t a beauty for the ages.
Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:50 AM (OoFl2)

She's a bit 'girl next door' homely to me. Not ugly, but not jaw dropping smokin' in any way.

Of course, I'm sure she'd have a lot worse things to say about me, so there's that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (IXZGh)

194
142 @135 Anne Hathaway, who's annoying
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:45 AM (gu0hJ)

But she does take it up the squeekhole.

(I know, that's an internet hoax, but I'm going with it anyway, because #1, Fuck Hollywood and #2 she has an epic pooper when she wears the Catwoman catsuit while riding the Batcycle)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (y9nCu)

195 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (gu0hJ)

Probably have to add in the disease issue of trying to have an overland route to get around the lack of good ports.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

196 The effed up part is, if a filmmaker did a straight-up version of the Odyssey, as written by Homer, it would be an amazing adventure movie and probably do great business at the box office.

Posted by: Don Black at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (ZxPkt)

197 If AI makes films in the future we all just be able to cast who we want, for a price I'm sure

Posted by: Easy the Elder at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (mxBJ+)

198 126 *tweet* pronoun personal foul, "Persons of Greece..."

persons of grease > persons of greece

Posted by: vinnie barbarino at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (oY6Yp)

199 Their other big contribution was the Mali silver mines. their slave driving king was somewhat renowned for travelling around the world in his gold plated Cadillac with a continental kit and Daytons, wearing a fuzzy hat and hitting his hoes upside their head.

Yes Mansa Musa is an interesting figure in African history. But there is a long time frame here

Late 600s:Islam conquers North Africa, inherits trade routes south. To this point the Byzantines/Christians only had any really connections to Ethiopia (which would be lost again until the Portuguese sailed around Africa)

700s: Islam decides it needs to dominate the people living their and sends war/slave raiding parties which eventually conquer them.

1300: Mansa Musa, and other west Africa Muslim rulers, get rich using their slaves locally in the mines.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (sKqQm)

200 Be funnier if you said "Primal Scream". Both bands owed their names and (in TFFs' case) their style to Arthur Janov.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 12, 2026 11:49 AM (sDWtc)

But the "open for" joke requires that the opening band be a word or phrase from a previous post, and not a real band.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (95Ab8)

201 Wait, I just heard it's National Limerick Day! Will have to go back and read prior posts for Muldoon limericks ...

[My first two limericks:]

From eighth grade --

There once was man named John
Who happened to be an ex-con
When he got out of jail
He stepped on a nail
And now he runs like a fawn.

From a software job with a Limerick Contest for a federal contractor named PCS (Prescription Card Services) in Scottsdale in the early 90s --

We OD'd on TQM's MC
And MAC'd Big Bro's FEP
PDQ send a new SOS to HQ
R&R can improve R&D

Posted by: ShainS -- Paris Hilton is harder to get into than the D.C. Hilton at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (3MZwD)

202 The theme for this year's Pride Month seems to be "Beyond the Rainbow". I looked it up and I think this is hilarious. Just classic predictable commie bullshit.

Basically this year's Pride is telling gays and lesbians "this (your own movement) is no longer about you"and what's more it's telling them "and you are part of the problem".

I fucking LOVE it. I mean I really really love it.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (BwrBR)

203 179 Yogi Berra was awarded a Purple Heart for his Navy exploits on D-Day.
Posted by: Rizzuto-Berra Bowl at May 12, 2026 11:51 AM (oftw2)

Most just took asprin.

Posted by: Reforger at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (ZFqKB)

204 Nope! I never saw the first one. lol. It is rare for me to sit still long enough to watch a movie. I did watch Melania at home but it was broken into 2 sessions.
Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 11:53 AM (OoFl2)

Me too. I was always comedy but the horror movies are keeping me still.

I figured fashion so I thought of you.

All of you have a great day as I pop in and out...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (Sco7b)

205 189 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove

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This is Thomas Sowell's take on things. He sells it fairly well, and that surely has something to do with it, but I think it is simplified and his book is a bit one sided.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (jnIP3)

206 The effed up part is, if a filmmaker did a straight-up version of the Odyssey, as written by Homer, it would be an amazing adventure movie and probably do great business at the box office.

Agreed. I was excited about the prospect until I heard what idiocy Nolan was cooking up.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t)

207 It is at its core a revolt against God. I want to blame the hippie movement but I think that was partially a CIA creation which means the revolt started earlier.

The burning creativity and life in America seems to have waned considerably. The Left just throws a wet blanket over everything they touch. Usually after milking it.
Posted by: ...
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It is not just here but the West in general. But looking at China or the Middle East, you really get the sense that humanity has regressed as our leaders and elites get more monstrous. I think it is fair to say that most of them and their wannabe lackeys view humanity as sheep, to be shorn or killed at the whims of a degraded international elite.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)

208 192 Isaac Parker's gallows are replicated down by the old courthouse. Fully functional. FYI. Judge Parker commuted more death sentences than executed, but it was still a bunch getting stretched.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (gm9Sb)

209 194 (I know, that's an internet hoax, but I'm going with it anyway, because #1, Fuck Hollywood and #2 she has an epic pooper when she wears the Catwoman catsuit while riding the Batcycle)

epic pooper would be a good name for a band

Posted by: anachronda at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (oY6Yp)

210 Christopher Nolan is making Troy into a cinematic masterpiece. And I detest the movie Troy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 11:33 AM

The Achilles/Hector fight was the highlight.

Posted by: toby928(c) at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (4NO2D)

211
Probably have to add in the disease issue of trying to have an overland route to get around the lack of good ports.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2026 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

Throw in islham for good measure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (IXZGh)

212 It's one of the fiercest debates in politics these days: Who is the worst American politician of the 21st century?
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Stupidest? Kamala
Most inept? Hillary
Most evil? Obama, runner-up, Carter
Most illegitimate? Biden, runner up FDR
Biggest fraud? Gore with LBJ as an alternate

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:58 AM (MtSIY)

213 202 The theme for this year's Pride Month seems to be "Beyond the Rainbow". I looked it up and I think this is hilarious. Just classic predictable commie bullshit.

Basically this year's Pride is telling gays and lesbians "this (your own movement) is no longer about you"and what's more it's telling them "and you are part of the problem".

I fucking LOVE it. I mean I really really love it.
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (BwrBR)

The Revolution consumes it's own- now quit whining about dick and GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:58 AM (bss/y)

214 I'm pretty sure the "fighting for Helen!" was all propaganda to justify sacking the wealth of Troy.

I'm not sure the Greeks in the Mycenean period felt the need to justify conquests. The later attempts by both the Spartans and Athenians to discuss the ethics of war in the Peloponnesian war period is fascinating (note they were both still assholes)

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:58 AM (sKqQm)

215 Ray Harryhausen >>>>>>>>>>> AI

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

216 206 The effed up part is, if a filmmaker did a straight-up version of the Odyssey, as written by Homer, it would be an amazing adventure movie and probably do great business at the box office.
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Agreed. I was excited about the prospect until I heard what idiocy Nolan was cooking up.

could be worse

Posted by: j. j. abrams at May 12, 2026 11:58 AM (oY6Yp)

217 The theme for this year's Pride Month seems to be "Beyond the Rainbow". I looked it up and I think this is hilarious. Just classic predictable commie bullshit.

Make The Rainbow God's Promise Again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (IXZGh)

218 155 I'm willing to meet in the middle and blame the French.
Posted by: gKWVE

Yeah but the problem is that the French were not only murdered but the half white people were as well.

Then again, blaming the French is a good tradition.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (+4yJ5)

219 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Didn't east Africa eventually feature several notable trading/slaving empires?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (sKqQm)

220
Late 600s:Islam conquers North Africa, inherits trade routes south. To this point the Byzantines/Christians only had any really connections to Ethiopia (which would be lost again until the Portuguese sailed around Africa)

What did the Byzantines/Christians say as they departed?

Abyssinia!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

221 Off topic, but I saw where Nomadic Aviation Group, a "airplane repo outfit" has been contracted to repo 40 Spirit Airline jets.
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The first call came to Bob Allen’s phone at 6 p.m. ET on a Friday. The message: Get the repo men ready.

Spirit Airlines was still in operation and planes were in the air. But the aircraft leasing firms that own dozens of its bright yellow jets were getting anxious as Spirit barreled toward liquidation. They wanted their planes back.

“I had six hours to find 20 pilots,” Allen said.

Nomadic Aviation Group, his company, had been standing by for months as Spirit teetered closer to the brink. Allen and co-founder Steve Giordano quickly assembled a roster of pilots, most of whom had worked for Spirit. They made a WhatsApp group, which swelled to 40 pilots. One had just landed.

“He said, ‘can I fly in shorts?’” Giordano recalled. Not a problem. “We generally go khakis and polos, but you know, you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do,” he told him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (jehhT)

222 The sleeper for how bad the new Nolan movie will be is Matt Dameon.

Saw him in that The Great Wall.

He's horrible. Bruce Willis with an earpiece bad.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (MtSIY)

223
I would think Julia Roberts before Anne Hathaway.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 11:48 AM (bss/y)

Julia needs to do Gwynplaine in a gender-swapped remake of The Man Who Laughs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 12:00 PM (y9nCu)

224 Whether you liked Troy or not going from Brad Pitt as Achilles to Ellen/Eliot Page as Achilles is at the very least weird

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 12:00 PM (gu0hJ)

225 The best redistricting scheme is to dissolve the Union.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 12:00 PM (BI5O2)

226 Matt Damon's best role is Interstellar.

He plays a sneaky asshole reasonably well...presumably because he isn't acting.

Presumably though Nolan isn't intending to have Odysseus be that sort of character.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 12:01 PM (sKqQm)

227 Posted by: 18-1

Yeah, I was only making funny.

But thank you for the better perspective. I only know that he is held up as a genius and their culture so far advanced ("the bronzes!") but in reality it was pretty sad.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 12:01 PM (jnIP3)

228 Under the Rainbow >>> Beyond the Rainbow.

Posted by: Reforger at May 12, 2026 12:01 PM (ZFqKB)

229 196 The effed up part is, if a filmmaker did a straight-up version of the Odyssey, as written by Homer, it would be an amazing adventure movie and probably do great business at the box office.
Posted by: Don Black
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The elites in Hollyweird hate their audiences because they engage in wrongthink. So elites are bound never to actually try to entertain them as it will only encourage the savages in appreciating traditional Western culture. That must be swept away for a new day to dawn. So subversion, inversion, and mocking those traditions is the order of the day.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:02 PM (E4rtv)

230 "And that's before the massive media advantage they enjoyed until the late 80s and 90s."

"Enjoyed", past tense? If the chief means of distortion - simply not reporting things - is considered, the advantage has probably grown.

When there was only the legacy media, and it was bad, though not nearly as farcical as it is now, they grossly distorted the "news" against such as Nixon and Reagan. Who won nearly every state in their re-elections.

Socially incorrect to even muse on the question, but perhaps there's a problem - an enormous, defining problem - with the voters, and not just the media.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2026 12:02 PM (U/Byj)

231 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 11:54 AM (gu0hJ)

That's only part of it.

African geography is REALLY bad for travel and trade. (Save around the Mediterranean)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:02 PM (N1DT3)

232 Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)

Lot of psy ops going on and we cannot be ignorant of that.

I have watched some psy ops from start to "finish" and as you know even detailed several here "live".

Essentially the "point" is to mindfuck as many in as short a time as possible and what's more to create and nurture the environments for said manipulation. Covid was the classic example. They had us in a perfect storm ready to be mindfucked into oblivion. And it's very very very difficult to "opt out" of a mindfuck operation since generally "everyone else" is affected in some way.

When people say "covid broke people" they are saying that it was weak willed and scared people who got affected by this virus but the reality is in general the planned manipulations successfully targeted them.

Why do you think the Left sends out all one message on EVERYTHING? It's not just because they don't want to lose arguments. It is targeted mental mindfuckination.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (BwrBR)

233 But thank you for the better perspective. I only know that he is held up as a genius and their culture so far advanced ("the bronzes!") but in reality it was pretty sad.

You are definitely right though - he might have been the wealthiest man in history. But that was a reflection of Islam - slave trading, using gold as a tool, traveling the Muslim world and impressing your peers - one could have seen Mansa appear from say Syria or Persia if they had such mineral wealth (and so many slaves) available...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (sKqQm)

234 Julia needs to do Gwynplaine in a gender-swapped remake of The Man Who Laughs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Conrad Veidt in that makes my skin crawl.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (77rzZ)

235 We are about ten years away if the component supply bottleneck can be fixed for feature length films. Probably more like a couple of years before photo realistic shorts can be produced, less if anime or other animated techniques.
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Check our GossipGoblin on the toks. The only reason you don't know it's real is it's sci-fi dystopian.

Crazy cutting-edge stories and getting more realistic-looking all the time.

Promptgenix on tok and spotify has space-swamp blues you'll swear are real.
And video visuals of imagined planets that exceed anything Hollywood has done for years.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (MtSIY)

236 Spirit Airlines was still in operation and planes were in the air. But the aircraft leasing firms that own dozens of its bright yellow jets were getting anxious as Spirit barreled toward liquidation. They wanted their planes back.

“I had six hours to find 20 pilots,” Allen said.

Nomadic Aviation Group, his company, had been standing by for months as Spirit teetered closer to the brink. Allen and co-founder Steve Giordano quickly assembled a roster of pilots, most of whom had worked for Spirit. They made a WhatsApp group, which swelled to 40 pilots. One had just landed.

“He said, ‘can I fly in shorts?’” Giordano recalled. Not a problem. “We generally go khakis and polos, but you know, you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do,” he told him.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2026 11:59 AM (jehhT)

Where are they going to park them all? And maintain them?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (95Ab8)

237 It is not just here but the West in general. But looking at China or the Middle East, you really get the sense that humanity has regressed as our leaders and elites get more monstrous. I think it is fair to say that most of them and their wannabe lackeys view humanity as sheep, to be shorn or killed at the whims of a degraded international elite.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)
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The elites' worldview is that other people (even other elites) are nothing more than disposable resources.

If they serve a useful purpose, they can stay.

If not, then they see absolutely nothing wrong with eliminating them. En masse, if necessary, to fulfil the goals of the elites.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (gnNyN)

238 Right now, got in my lap Volume Two of The Universal Anthology from 1899 busily shedding little bits of paper.

pg 229 -232 is titled "No Final Translation of Homer Possible." By Butcher and Lang.

There would have been less controversy about the proper method of Homeric translation, if critics had recognized that the question is a purely relative one, that of Homer there can be no final translation. The taste and literary habits of each age demand different qualities in poetry, and therefore a different sort of rendering of Homer. To the men of the time of Elizabeth, Homer would have appeared bald, it seems, and lacking in ingenuity, if he had been presented in his antique simplicity. For the Elizabethan age, Chapman supplied what was then necessary, and the mannerisms that were then deemed of the essence of poetry, - namely, daring and luxurious conceits. Thus in Chapman's verse Troy must "shed her towers for tears of overthrow"; and when the winds toss Odysseus about, their sport must be called "the horrid tennis."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 12:04 PM (2GVsD)

239 A guy went on a shooting spree in Cambridge MA. Long record. He was brought down by a shot fired by a citizen with a carry permit (in MA !).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 12, 2026 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

240 This is Thomas Sowell's take on things. He sells it fairly well, and that surely has something to do with it, but I think it is simplified and his book is a bit one sided.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (jnIP3)

Animals adapt to the environment they live in. Is it any surprise that the humans in Africa would adapt to an environment where travel and trade are EXTREMELY difficult and weather unpredictable?

African culture grew as it did because of Africa. Africans who adopt Western Culture tend to do very well in the West.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:05 PM (N1DT3)

241 It is not just here but the West in general. But looking at China or the Middle East, you really get the sense that humanity has regressed as our leaders and elites get more monstrous.

The tools for controlling populations have gotten better while the Christian restrictions, at least in the West, on leaders have gotten weaker.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2026 12:05 PM (sKqQm)

242 219 There's a good vid a YouTube which argued that one of the reasons that sub Saharan Africa never developed was the lack of good ports. Made sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Didn't east Africa eventually feature several notable trading/slaving empires?
Posted by: 18-1
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Yes as did Western Africa, the Americas, etc. Slavery is the normal condition of humanity in history across times and cultures. Which is why academia steeped in the left treats it as a secret that shall never be taught nor mentioned.

Sowell is a excellent writer on economics but his sociology and history contributions are minimal. Better to read his economics books than his forays into other areas.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:05 PM (E4rtv)

243 Constant AI-driven investigation of Congresscritters?

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (ReYtg)

244 The tools for controlling populations have gotten better while the Christian restrictions, at least in the West, on leaders have gotten weaker.

Posted by: 18-1
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Perhaps. I know not all the causes but can observe the decline.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (E4rtv)

245 “He said, ‘can I fly in shorts?’”

The fact you are wearing clothes is enough.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (+4yJ5)

246 Watching the myth of "Blacks only vote Democrat" dissipate as because only Democrat choices were ever offered to blacks is going to be very interesting.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (MtSIY)

247 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 12, 2026 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

Mo I was informed that good guys with guns are a myth that has never stopped nor curbed one single shooting ever.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (BwrBR)

248 Regarding post -- this was some really great content by CBD. Maybe too good for the HQ and it probably belongs on a bigger platform like twitter or youtube.

What he needs is a sexy asian chic filter and 2 hours of filler to make a video.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 12:07 PM (jnIP3)

249
The effed up part is, if a filmmaker did a straight-up version of the Odyssey, as written by Homer, it would be an amazing adventure movie and probably do great business at the box office.

Anabasis and the 10,000. Now THAT would be epic. No "Gods sticking their noses into human affairs" bullshit either.

The Warriors is a decent modern adaptation, but it's kinda dated, and in many ways it misses the point.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 12:08 PM (y9nCu)

250 248 What he needs is a sexy asian chic filter and 2 hours of filler to make a video.

given that he's already used ai to create the map, that should be easy.

Posted by: anachronda at May 12, 2026 12:08 PM (oY6Yp)

251 Idled airliners and large jets have several storage locations, one is in the high desert near Lancaster CA. Think NC and AZ have some too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (U/Byj)

252 African culture grew as it did because of Africa. Africans who adopt Western Culture tend to do very well in the West.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Selection effect. Same issue with those that decided to leave Europe for America to settle. It screens out lesser individuals. With lower barriers though to international travel, we can see that when masses of any ethnicity cluster together, they recreate the culture of where they were from, not where they are. What is true for some is not true for the entire population.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (E4rtv)

253
Anabasis and the 10,000. Now THAT would be epic.

Ooooohhhhhhhhhh!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

254
Make The Rainbow God's Promise Again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May

Well that is not a good acronym.

Posted by: Piper at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (Wmg4n)

255 The Indians of Mexico and Central America developed a pretty amazing civilization without much in the way of ports, or even roads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (95Ab8)

256 202 The theme for this year's Pride Month seems to be "Beyond the Rainbow". I looked it up and I think this is hilarious. Just classic predictable commie bullshit.

Basically this year's Pride is telling gays and lesbians "this (your own movement) is no longer about you"and what's more it's telling them "and you are part of the problem".

I fucking LOVE it. I mean I really really love it.
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 11:56 AM (BwrBR)

Oh yeah. The left has a real thing for eating its own. What's really fascinating is how the trans movement, which glommed on to the gay movement, is seeking to erase homosexuals. Homosexuality is same-sex attraction. But there's actually no such thing as sex, the tranny ideologues tell us. Most youth with "gender" issues grow out of them and post-puberty figure out they're just gay. But that's not good enough the trans butchers say, and swoop in to mutilate the kids' bodies. Gays are derided for not wanting to have sex with trans men. Lesbians are derided for not wanting to have sex with trans women. It's the trannies who are the actual eliminationists within the LGBTQEDWTF "movement," all the while wailing about a non-existent "trans genocide."

Posted by: They cry in pain as they beat you at May 12, 2026 12:10 PM (TbWk/)

257 Mansa Musa: The Biggest Fraud in History

https://youtu.be/-nzafFycvJc

Posted by: toby928(c) at May 12, 2026 12:10 PM (4NO2D)

258 Xenophon, "you can't trust Persians."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 12:10 PM (2GVsD)

259 The kook in Cambridge was brought down by a civilian carrying? Wow. Didn't see that part.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (U/Byj)

260 Anabasis and the 10,000. Now THAT would be epic.

Ooooohhhhhhhhhh!
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

This. 'Well, boys, we're right fucked. We'll have to chew our way out.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (bss/y)

261 pg 229 -232 is titled "No Final Translation of Homer Possible." By Butcher and Lang

That's true of any ancient text, Homer, the Bible, etc.
As the modern languages change, the translations periodically need to change to reflect those changes.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (77rzZ)

262
Knowing what we know now about BO, would Hillary have been a better or worse president? It's like choosing between Hantavirus and Ebola.
Posted by: Archimedes

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Crazy, isn't it? She'd have been a billionaire as she exited the White House and Chelsea would be a US Senator now. One can speculate on how she would have left the country vs how Obama did. What would Hillarycare have been?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (XJ22o)

263 The elites' worldview is that other people (even other elites) are nothing more than disposable resources.

If they serve a useful purpose, they can stay.

If not, then they see absolutely nothing wrong with eliminating them. En masse, if necessary, to fulfil the goals of the elites.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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I think the lackeys are now speaking that out loud. Oligarchs without the endless favor currying lackeys would not be nearly so dangerous. The oligarchs never want to get their hands dirty nor risk their hides; they rely on the nasty sorts to do their dirty work to curry favor with the oligarchs.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:12 PM (E4rtv)

264
Xenophon, "you can't trust Persians."
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 12:10 PM (2GVsD)

Plus ca change, and all that shit

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 12:12 PM (y9nCu)

265 236 Where are they going to park them all?

hello, sailor!

Posted by: mojave spaceport and airliner parking lot at May 12, 2026 12:12 PM (oY6Yp)

266 If you want to get rid of gerrymandering the way to do it is change how elections are done. Instead of voting seat by seat, vote for the party in each state then allocate seats by percentage won.

Texas has 38 seats. If Republicans win 58% of the congressional vote they get 58% of 38 which is 22. Dems get 16. Obviously there would need to be rounding up or down rules. Maybe the overall winner gets a bonus 1-2 seats or something. And states with only 2 seats would still be 2-0 if the vote was overwhelmingly one way or the other.

Then each party has a primary (secondary?) vote to determine who will represent the seats they won.

If every state did that, you’d have a house that much better represents the will of the people. And you’d have actual competitive elections in most states. No more 9-0 states like Massachusetts where 40% of the voters have no representation.

Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (f2WBH)

267 Selection effect. Same issue with those that decided to leave Europe for America to settle. It screens out lesser individuals. With lower barriers though to international travel, we can see that when masses of any ethnicity cluster together, they recreate the culture of where they were from, not where they are. What is true for some is not true for the entire population.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (E4rtv)

That's ONE possible explanation, but as we cannot run a controlled experiment, it's not dispositive.

I will note that colonialism which forced a western-ish culture on Africa left the Africans in much better shape than "decolonization". That seems to suggest it's a culture issue, not an inherent one.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (N1DT3)

268 255 The Indians of Mexico and Central America developed a pretty amazing civilization without much in the way of ports, or even roads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Amazing for the elites, not so great for the slaves that had to build those things.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv)

269 So now a 12 year old who thinks he's gay is "privileged" and needs to "shut up". Love it!!!

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (BwrBR)

270 I disagree. Lupita is stunning.
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Sorry, but no. Helen of Troy launched a thousand ships. I wouldn't launch my Honda CRV for Lupita. She dresses well and has no obvious infirmities. That doesn't make her "stunning".

Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (TN0g+)

271 What would Hillarycare have been?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (XJ22o)

I bet "Obamacare" grates on her more than anything. Including not being President.

Posted by: Reforger at May 12, 2026 12:14 PM (ZFqKB)

272 New one:

South Carolina's Legislature Will Delete C***s***er Jim Clyburn's Seat Tomorrow; Alabama Now Free to Eliminate One of Its Two Democrat Districts

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)

273 Xenophon, "you can't trust Persians."
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2026 12:10 PM (2GVsD)

/looks at the Iran war

Well, I can't say he is wrong....

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:14 PM (N1DT3)

274 nood

Posted by: Reforger at May 12, 2026 12:15 PM (ZFqKB)

275
African geography is REALLY bad for travel and trade. (Save around the Mediterranean)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

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That's what I read. Its rivers don't have deep, wide passages that are good for carrying goods from the interior to the coasts. Physical geography makes overland travel equally difficult. No movement, no development.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 12:15 PM (XJ22o)

276 228 Under the Rainbow >>> Beyond the Rainbow.

taste the rainbow > under the rainbow > beyond the rainbow

Posted by: skittles at May 12, 2026 12:15 PM (oY6Yp)

277
The Indians of Mexico and Central America developed a pretty amazing civilization without much in the way of ports, or even roads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (95Ab

Or the wheel.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 12, 2026 12:15 PM (y9nCu)

278 Are Ace's hemmorhoids kicking up again today?

Posted by: Jerry Carroll at May 12, 2026 12:16 PM (RRQTN)

279 new thread about redistricting you all

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 12, 2026 12:16 PM (CWTWj)

280 Nood Jim Clyburn.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at May 12, 2026 12:17 PM (iNUL3)

281 Crazy, isn't it? She'd have been a billionaire as she exited the White House and Chelsea would be a US Senator now. One can speculate on how she would have left the country vs how Obama did. What would Hillarycare have been?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 12:11 PM (XJ22o)

ALSO, Barry was still a young man (relative) in 2016 and he'd have still been on the bench.

Instead they ran HIllary (who WASN'T young at that point) and lost AND have nobody on the bench. All they need is someone who looks good and can read a telelprompter... AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:17 PM (N1DT3)

282 Amazing for the elites, not so great for the slaves that had to build those things.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv)

I didn't say "admirable". Pretty nasty, when you get down to it. Point is, civilization can happen without natural transportation arteries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 12:18 PM (95Ab8)

283 That's ONE possible explanation, but as we cannot run a controlled experiment, it's not dispositive.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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And yet most of those colonies devolved rather than kept up. Rhodesia and South Africa are examples but you find the same in other former colonies.

IQ is a subject that is uncomfortable for a lot of people because it has a rancid past history of those glomming onto it. But yet, it is pretty clear by multiple triangulations that it exists beyond schooling, beyond the Flynn effect (which seems to be dying btw), etc. And that culture will interact with that population general iq. And the cruelest thing is that IQ is inheritable as that becomes more clear over time. Assortative mating makes it relevant over time as well in a culture.

That whole field of genetics and iq has been choked off as valid study because of 'racism' but yet, it is a fact, that cousin marriages has promoted a massive number of birth defects and lowered general population iq in Middle Eastern populations.

Move them to England, they do the same thing as Pakistan, and voila, a huge spike in birth defects and mental issues there in those populations.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:21 PM (E4rtv)

284 I didn't say "admirable". Pretty nasty, when you get down to it. Point is, civilization can happen without natural transportation arteries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

From what I recall, the Incan civilization had pretty good roads and used alpacas on them as beasts of burden. Did not, however, come up with the wheel.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 12:22 PM (E4rtv)

285 That's what I read. Its rivers don't have deep, wide passages that are good for carrying goods from the interior to the coasts. Physical geography makes overland travel equally difficult. No movement, no development.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 12:15 PM (XJ22o)

Those rivers that don't seasonally disappear (or close to) have MASSIVE waterfalls- huge, abrupt changes in altitude from the interior to the coast, not gentle decreases like in North America and Europe.

Pre-modern societies can't deal with issues like that.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 12, 2026 12:22 PM (N1DT3)

286 The Indians of Mexico and Central America developed a pretty amazing civilization without much in the way of ports, or even roads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 12:09 PM (95Ab

Most of the land transportation was on human-back though t here were dray-llamas in the Andes t hat could take minor loads.

There was a trade up the Pacific coasts of south and central America, though it seems to have been short range and more "chain" commerce than long-range commerce. There were also traders moving in the Gulf of America and among the islands, and in fact the first contacts the Aztecs had with the Spanish was one of those island hopping traders

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2026 12:29 PM (rbvCR)

287 Bespoke AI filmmaking cannot come fast enough.

Case in point:

https://twitter.com/i/status/2053828567574991052

https://twitter.com/i/status/2051647381981290697
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

Those are great!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 12, 2026 12:31 PM (5xuJ/)

288 266 If you want to get rid of gerrymandering the way to do it is change how elections are done. Instead of voting seat by seat, vote for the party in each state then allocate seats by percentage won.

Texas has 38 seats. If Republicans win 58% of the congressional vote they get 58% of 38 which is 22. Dems get 16. Obviously there would need to be rounding up or down rules. Maybe the overall winner gets a bonus 1-2 seats or something. And states with only 2 seats would still be 2-0 if the vote was overwhelmingly one way or the other.

Then each party has a primary (secondary?) vote to determine who will represent the seats they won.

If every state did that, you’d have a house that much better represents the will of the people. And you’d have actual competitive elections in most states. No more 9-0 states like Massachusetts where 40% of the voters have no representation.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 12:13 PM (f2WBH)

Yeah but we don't have a Parliament. That's voting for party. The Germans do something like this: everyone gets two votes: 1) for their rep which may or may not be voted on by the basis of party and 2) what party they want running things.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 12, 2026 12:42 PM (T6aVk)

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