Food Thread: A Tisket, A Tasket, The Brisket's In The Basket*

Apparently I decided to make a brisket for the Passover Seder. I have no recollection of this decision, and in the only conversation I can recall, I was confident that I decided upon a tenderloin roast (The married men among the readers will understand how that came to be).

So brisket it is! And really, it's not a bad choice, particularity since my local Wild Fork Foods carries very nicely trimmed whole briskets. I really like using a whole brisket, in part because there is enough fat, and in part because the texture of the flat and the point are different, and add some nice complexity to the dish. I also get to render some of the trimmed fat so I don't have to panic when I want to make Yorkshire Pudding.

The only issue is searing the brisket...it's pretty big, so I have to use my largest roasting pan. It's not perfect because it's not particularly heavy, so I have to be attentive, otherwise I will get burned spots. The solution is to buy a very heavy and very expensive roasting pan, and because I am a cheap bastard I will choose being attentive every time!

The recipe itself is simple. Sear, then remove it and brown a ton of mirepoix, then return the meat to the roasting pan, along with a lot of red wine, some tomato, some ketchup for the sweet teeth among the guests, and some herbs. Cover and roast for a few hours, until it is nice and tender.

That's it! Easy and delicious.

I make it the day before so I can chill the brisket, slice it, and return it to the defatted mirepoix (which I blend into a thick sauce). For a big group it's a great choice, especially because I have a few relatives who are whiny little snots when it comes to rare beef, so that tenderloin would be more of a production.

I might not serve them my famous Chicken Tartare if they keep up the squawking about underdone meat!

*My apologies to Ella Fitzgerald and the real rhymers in the readership.

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He is 100% correct. If you don't like secondary prices and allocated bottles, then don't drink them. But if you complain about other people buying them, you are nothing more than a Booze Karen, and deserve to be mocked and criticized.

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A good meatloaf is a fine thing indeed, and I have written about Ina Garten's wonderful version before. But I haven't made it in a long time, and I feel silly! It is one of her easier and better written recipes, and it's just delicious. Individual Meat Loaves is absolutely worth a try, and I will bet that once you make it you will think more highly of Garten, who can be an out-of-touch little rich girl sometimes. Well...most of the time, but she partially redeems herself with this dish.

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They were so good I made them again the next night! And yes, fresh, hot Hush Puppies go very well with burgers!

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Food stamp recipients file lawsuit against SNAP restrictions on junk foods, sugary sodas, and energy drinks

Tough shit. You don't want our money with restrictions? Get a job, make your own money, and buy whatever the f*ck you want.

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Never heard of it before I saw it in a wine shop, and I probably won't see it again. And that's okay, because there are many hundreds of small champagne houses that make their own champagne rather than selling their grapes to the big houses.

That was a delicious champagne for significantly less than the big guys charge. The small houses are wonderful because they don't have the size to make the same champagne year in and year out by blending many years into each release, so they make each year based on the vagaries of the growing season. Sometimes the champagne is rich and buttery, sometimes it is crisp and austere, but it is always different, and that is part of the pleasure of seeking out the small growers.

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Well, the garlic is out in the sunshine, probably soon to be eaten by those vile rodents with bushy tails and a penchant for damaging my home. But if they survive the squirrel apocalypse, and actually grow into something edible, I will be in garlic heaven! In case it doesn't, send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2026 04:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 That pizza is a abomination you know

Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

3 Boogers thread

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 15, 2026 04:03 PM (Kt19C)

4 Do NOT show that pizza to my daughters...they put chocolate chips in their banana nut bread ...yuck...

Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 04:04 PM (CdCSf)

5 👍 👍 for Meatloaf. With Catsup. Ketchup. Whatever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 04:04 PM (jtM2q)

6 Ham Stromboli tonight, peppers, onions tomatoes, cheese. Pepperoni, whatever herbs I can toss in.

Noticed my chives in garden are growing already

Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2026 04:05 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Leftovers tonight. Thanks for the food thread, CBD.

Posted by: scampydog at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (41CYW)

8 Among the goodies I scooped up at Trader Joe's yesterday were the lemon stuffed green olives I mentioned in the last thread and a wedge of Irish Porter Cheddar Cheese. Mild cheddar veined with Irish Porter. It's quite good. Wish I'd picked up more than a small wedge.

Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (lJ0H4)

9 I had pulled pork yesterday. Buc-ee's.

The wife and I went to Bristol, VA yesterday to try out the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. On the way back, we finally had a chance to hit the Buc-ee's east of Knoxville not too far from Dandridge.

Well! You know how there are regular Walmarts and Super Walmarts? Apparently there are Super Buc-ee's and this was one of them. This place was far bigger than the ones in N. Crossville, TN and Royse City, TX.

Got my beef jerky and candy-coated nuts too.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (/HDaX)

10 >>>I might not serve them my famous Chicken Tartare if they keep up the squawking about underdone meat!>>>

Man, you are quite the cantankerous bastard!

Fucking awesome!

Oh, and you'll deny their dogs the after-meal chicken bones, too, huh?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 15, 2026 04:07 PM (dmDsy)

11 That pizza is a abomination you know
Posted by: Skip

No kidding.

Everyone knows you use peanut M&Ms on pizza.

Posted by: mikeski at March 15, 2026 04:08 PM (VHUov)

12 candy-coated nuts too.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (/HDaX)

Ouch!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:08 PM (n9ltV)

13 My boys can destroy a meatloaf in just a few minutes. We’ always make two at a time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 15, 2026 04:08 PM (3Ope8)

14 Everyone knows you use peanut M&Ms on pizza.
Posted by: mikeski at March 15, 2026 04:08 PM (VHUov)

So, Thai style, eh?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 15, 2026 04:09 PM (/HDaX)

15 4 Do NOT show that pizza to my daughters...they put chocolate chips in their banana nut bread ...yuck...
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 04:04 PM (CdCSf)

Right, b/c you aren't supposed to put in nuts.

Dark chocolate mini chips in banana bread are outstanding! The darker, the better...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:09 PM (tOcjL)

16 4 Do NOT show that pizza to my daughters...they put chocolate chips in their banana nut bread ...yuck...
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 04:04 PM (CdCSf)

Ohhh!

That's not "yuck" so as much as "WOW! That's GREAT!"

Posted by: Denny Crane - I Love Food. at March 15, 2026 04:09 PM (dmDsy)

17 Ouch!

Not to fear. They cool off quickly.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 15, 2026 04:09 PM (/HDaX)

18 Tough shit. You don't want our money with restrictions? Get a job, make your own money, and buy whatever the f*ck you want.
Posted by: CBD

* whoops it up from the back of the crowd *

* waits for "measured response" from the FSA *

* blasts vuvuzela *

Posted by: mikeski at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (VHUov)

19 Leftovers tonight.

Posted by: scampydog at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (41CYW)

I love leftovers! Even if I make dinner every night, having something extra in the refrigerator is wonderful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (n9ltV)

20 Meat. Want.

Oh well, Costco still has $5 chicken...and $5 gas...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (xcxpd)

21 2 boxes of hamburger helper lasagna

1 bag of frozen veggies

some basil (the amount varies)

28 oz can of turkey meat

some mrs dash with garlic and herbs (shake it baby shake it)

stir until congeled

Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (jrgJz)

22 Brisket: 3 hours on the grill, 9 hours in the oven. Chill, slice, reheat. 254 days later, dinner.

Steak: 8 minutes. Food.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (diia5)

23 Tonight is Crockpot BBQ (red) Shredded Pork Sandwiches. I was gonna do baked beans, but it's been forever since I've been lazy and just dumped a bag of Aldi's fries into my air fry function on my oven - so fries it is.

With that I made a brand new coleslaw (pickled onion coleslaw with the 19 cent cabbage, green onions, pickled onion, cilantro, pickled onion liquid, olive oil, salt, pepper, and a PINCH of sugar b/c my pickling is a red wine vinegar and it's tart)...and a strawberry and jam grape salad (yes, another new type of grape, but if you sell it to me cheap, and it's seedless, I'll try it - and they are good)...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:11 PM (tOcjL)

24 19 Leftovers tonight.

Posted by: scampydog at March 15, 2026 04:06 PM (41CYW)

I love leftovers! Even if I make dinner every night, having something extra in the refrigerator is wonderful.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (n9ltV)

Exactly!

Posted by: Denny Crane - I Had Arbys Last Night, Still Have a Beef and Cheddar In The Fridge! at March 15, 2026 04:12 PM (dmDsy)

25 PS - lightly dress my slaw...it shouldn't be dripping...you want like a TB or two of the pickling liquid and olive oil for a small cabbage head...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:12 PM (tOcjL)

26 Steak: 8 minutes. Food.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (diia5)

Steak, butter-sauteed vegetables, a salad.

Hard to beat!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:13 PM (n9ltV)

27 Leftover yardbird and fresh tortillas with salsa verde for me tonight. The Queen of the Universe gets grilled monkfish and risotto.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 15, 2026 04:13 PM (3Ope8)

28 Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (jrgJz)

So you're saying the cats love it?

Posted by: Denny Crane - I Am A Food Snob Sometimes... Kidding, Sounds Good! at March 15, 2026 04:14 PM (dmDsy)

29 6 Ham Stromboli tonight, peppers, onions tomatoes, cheese. Pepperoni, whatever herbs I can toss in.

Noticed my chives in garden are growing already
Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2026 04:05 PM (Ia/+0)

My garden is still dead...by now, I'd usually have my "couldn't kill it yet again" mint popping up and usable, but this winter...sigh.

I want to make my frozen pea salad, since it's mint, red wine vinegar, olive oil, red onion, and mint (with s&p) and is so cheap, tasty, and easy (b/c I got 2 bags of frozen peas for 42 cents and the mint is from my garden)...but it still sits in my freezer waiting...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:14 PM (tOcjL)

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Food stamp recipients file lawsuit against SNAP restrictions on junk foods, sugary sodas, and energy drinks

There was a time in this country when people would have been ashamed to take food stamps at all, much less bitch and whine because you can't get exactly what you want, regardless of the fact that I'm paying for it.

I fully expect Judge Boasberg to insist that getting your junk food on is a constitutional right.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:16 PM (Riz8t)

31 ...and because I am a cheap bastard I will choose being attentive every time!

The word of the day is "frugal."
You are a frugal bastard. Not cheap.
See? Doesn't that sound better?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 04:16 PM (2WIwB)

32 Brats for St Patrick's day, but not Irish

Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2026 04:16 PM (Ia/+0)

33 Nice recovery. You lost me at ketchup on the brisket, but you made a unexpected save at the meatloaf.

I don't even want to know what that thing is with the buttons in the cheese.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (M9gjJ)

34 21 2 boxes of hamburger helper lasagna

1 bag of frozen veggies

some basil (the amount varies)

28 oz can of turkey meat

some mrs dash with garlic and herbs (shake it baby shake it)

stir until congeled
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at March 15, 2026 04:10 PM (jrgJz)

Dare I ask where they sell a 28 oz can of "turkey meat"...I probably don't want to know, but...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (tOcjL)

35 Keeping it simple tonight. My wife's and my favorite stir fry, Kung Pao Shrimp. With the storm that's pounding the Great Lakes swinging our way and body slamming the temps, tomorrow night's going to be braised chicken thighs and Tuesday night is classic beef roast.

Both of which mean plenty of leftovers.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (/HDaX)

36 Boar's Head corned beef on sale this week at Publix for $19.99 / lb.

Sorry, I remember when corned beef was the cheap shit for when you cannot afford a decent roast.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (/lPRQ)

37 Chix enchiladas tonight.
Mmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (2WIwB)

38 The word of the day is "frugal."
You are a frugal bastard. Not cheap.
See? Doesn't that sound better?

Pffffft.

Posted by: Penurious and parsimonious at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (Riz8t)

39
St. Paddy's prep is underway here, with the brisket having been in the brine for 6 days now, smoker tomorrow and a reheat to serve Tuesday.

Posted by: Auspex at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (Y8DZL)

40 No "formal" dinner for us tonight. Potential violent winds and tornados on the menu for later on.

Breaded cheese sticks and a tomato-garlic dipping sauce right now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 04:18 PM (jtM2q)

41 Dare I ask where they sell a 28 oz can of "turkey meat"...I probably don't want to know, but...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:17 PM (tOcjL)

That was kind of where my comment came from... a very specific item that I do not remember ever seeing.

Posted by: Denny Crane - I Am A Food Snob Sometimes... Kidding, Sounds Good! at March 15, 2026 04:19 PM (dmDsy)

42 Bride of PI makes meatloaf using Garten's recipe. We had a very tasty one just this week!

Meatloaf is one of my wife's "comfort foods". In fact, I have been married long enough to know that the smell of a comfort food being cooked almost certainly means she had a bad day or a bad week.

Since I am an Idiot, it took several years to realize I should always ask what is bothering her. This week, it was one of her class disruptors took it up about two more notches.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 15, 2026 04:20 PM (HlyYF)

43 Holy crap! There's a really strong front that coming tomorrow. It currently stretches from Houston to Canada, with nary a break. Methinks tomorrow will NOT be the day for grilling.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)

44 30
Food stamp recipients file lawsuit against SNAP restrictions on junk foods, sugary sodas, and energy drinks

I'd throw that lawsuit out so fast if I was a judge and make their attorney pay the penalty for the frivilous lawsuit out of his/her own firm's pocket (b/c the SNAP folks are unsueable)...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

45 Food stamp recipients file lawsuit against SNAP restrictions on junk foods, sugary sodas, and energy drinks

I'd throw that lawsuit out so fast if I was a judge and make their attorney pay the penalty for the frivilous lawsuit out of his/her own firm's pocket (b/c the SNAP folks are unsueable)...

Denied!!! Bailiff, take this troublemaker off to the gulag!

Posted by: Judge Boasberg at March 15, 2026 04:22 PM (Riz8t)

46 > Holy crap! There's a really strong front that coming tomorrow. It currently stretches from Houston to Canada, with nary a break. Methinks tomorrow will NOT be the day for grilling.
Posted by: Archimedes
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We're dealing with the winds now. 40MPH + Potentially violent storms around 1AM. 70MPH straight line winds and/or tornados.

Generally speaking... it's nerve wracking.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 04:23 PM (jtM2q)

47 PS - Meatloaf is not a recipe, it's a technique.

Ground meat, wet, dry, binder (egg, but doesn't have to be), seasoning. Shape, bake, the end.

It can be done a million different ways.

Kids always love my hamburger version with ketchup, yellow mustard, chopped pickles and onions, hamburger buns, eggs, salt and pepper. But I've done a million of them...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:24 PM (tOcjL)

48 Snap recipients are suing? LOL. Some lawyer, probably got slipped some money from big soda and talked some SNAP folks into joining a lawsuit.

I'm sure its a bit of PITA, but actual SNAP recipients that need a bit of help with groceries probably just get the eligible items with the SNAP card, and then buy their treats with the EBT card or cash.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 15, 2026 04:24 PM (+89TD)

49
Husband wants to cook a corned beef, potatoes, cabbage and carrots in the crockpot for St. Patrick's Day.

I told him I think that is too much stuff to put in the crockpot.

How do ya'll cook that?

Posted by: four seasons at March 15, 2026 04:25 PM (3ek7K)

50 Hi friends! I am not typically a fan of ground turkey, but I have perfected a meatloaf using it, I put spinach and feta in it. My kiddo loves it, we usually make it when it’s just her and me, but I haven’t in awhile. I will need to do it again next chance we get.

Posted by: Piper at March 15, 2026 04:25 PM (Wmg4n)

51
I get 12oz of 1/2" thick bacon from our butcher, only give it an hour on the smoker, then cut it up into 1" pieces and throw in the Dutch oven, cover with a cut up onion, 28 oz Bush's baked beans, 1/2 cup brown sugar, some ketchup and mustard and molasses to taste, bake at 225 for 6 hours and refrigerate overnight.

Served cold.

Posted by: Auspex at March 15, 2026 04:25 PM (Y8DZL)

52 43 Holy crap! There's a really strong front that coming tomorrow. It currently stretches from Houston to Canada, with nary a break. Methinks tomorrow will NOT be the day for grilling.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)

Yeah, I have salmon filet planned for tomorrow, but if we lose power, told the spouse it's probably PB with bananas and honey.

We lost power Friday with the last windstorm for 3 hours (hadn't lost power in years)...so I don't know which way this will go. Thankfully, we had a Church soup dinner to go to which had power (told the spouse if I'd have been in the middle of prepping dinner, it would have had to be tossed, so at least tomorrow is a 20 minute cook plan).

I'll probably prebake homemade blueberry muffins and serve 2 cold salads (fruit and cucumber), so it's just the salmon for the worst of the storms...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:27 PM (tOcjL)

53 OK, serious question-

I kind of fell in the kitchen last night because I just got a shipment of all the meds I may have to take for my heart and arthritis and just general over-active sexual drive that I hadn't had for a week... so I took them all at once and sort of "got tired real fast"....

Anyway, when I fell some part of me hit and shattered the glass front of my stove.

I'm researching getting a new panel, but my question is- will there be any danger with using the oven with only the interior glass on the door?

And again, I want to stress, most of the problem that happened to cause the fall was my incredible and continued virility.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (dmDsy)

54 Dare I ask where they sell a 28 oz can of "turkey meat"...I probably don't want to know, but...
Posted by: Nova Local

That was kind of where my comment came from... a very specific item that I do not remember ever seeing.
Posted by: Denny Crane

So this is a recipe from your grandma's cookbook?

If the product still exists, it'll be shrinkflationed down to something like a 19 oz can now, so you'll have to do Math to get the new proportions right.

Or buy two cans and freeze part of one for next time. First World Food Thread Problems.

Posted by: mikeski at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (VHUov)

55 Made chili yesterday, so it's left overs tonight and I'm looking forward to it. It's always better the next day.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (SxybG)

56 49
Husband wants to cook a corned beef, potatoes, cabbage and carrots in the crockpot for St. Patrick's Day.

I told him I think that is too much stuff to put in the crockpot.

How do ya'll cook that?

Posted by: four seasons at March 15, 2026 04

You can do it in the crock pot, just add the cabbage in for the last hour and a half if you are cooking it on low, 45 mins if high.

Posted by: Piper at March 15, 2026 04:29 PM (Wmg4n)

57 Dare I ask where they sell a 28 oz can of "turkey meat"...I probably don't want to know, but...
Posted by: Nova Local

I'm so old I remember Deviled Chicken next to the cans of Deviled Ham. Prolly something like that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 15, 2026 04:29 PM (diia5)

58 49
Husband wants to cook a corned beef, potatoes, cabbage and carrots in the crockpot for St. Patrick's Day.

I told him I think that is too much stuff to put in the crockpot.

How do ya'll cook that?

Posted by: four seasons at March 15, 2026 04:25 PM (3ek7K)

Roast the cabbage in wedges and the carrots separately (you can rewarm the carrots if you can only fit one at a time in your oven).
Make mashed potatoes.
Make the corned beef in the crock.

Way better way to have the dinner.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:29 PM (tOcjL)

59 I made this yesterday and everyone loved it:

https://is.gd/pOUysD

Braised chicken thigh stew. Very hearty.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 15, 2026 04:30 PM (nHXB4)

60 Anyway, when I fell some part of me hit and shattered the glass front of my stove.
...
And again, I want to stress, most of the problem that happened to cause the fall was my incredible and continued virility.

I guess we know which part.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:30 PM (Riz8t)

61 A suppressed .22 with a night scope would take care of the squirrels eating your garlic shoots.

I can do it for you if you can’t manage.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:31 PM (A5RD0)

62 I can do it for you if you can’t manage.

According to Google Translate, this translates as "since you're such a girly man".

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:32 PM (Riz8t)

63 53 OK, serious question-

I kind of fell in the kitchen last night because I just got a shipment of all the meds I may have to take for my heart and arthritis and just general over-active sexual drive that I hadn't had for a week... so I took them all at once and sort of "got tired real fast"....

Anyway, when I fell some part of me hit and shattered the glass front of my stove.

I'm researching getting a new panel, but my question is- will there be any danger with using the oven with only the interior glass on the door?

And again, I want to stress, most of the problem that happened to cause the fall was my incredible and continued virility.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (dmDsy)

Electric or gas oven?

Either way though...I'd just use the stove top and wait on oven use til you fix it. Lots of good things can be done with a stovetop and/or a microwave in a pinch.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:32 PM (tOcjL)

64 Denny clearly you need to burn the house down and get new appliances when you rebuild. I know this is FWP advise, not food thread advice

Posted by: PaleRider at March 15, 2026 04:33 PM (+89TD)

65 Denny clearly you need to burn the house down and get new appliances when you rebuild.

A real man would build a kiln, and make his own glass.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:33 PM (Riz8t)

66 Just got done shoveling some global warming. Good thing I took a container of Beef and Guiness Stew out of the freezer last night.

Now on to aspirin, Ben-Gay, and Bourbon.

Posted by: Fritzy at March 15, 2026 04:33 PM (2GIh1)

67 Braised chicken thigh stew. Very hearty.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 15, 2026 04:30 PM (nHXB4)

That's a nice looking stew.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:34 PM (n9ltV)

68 suppressed .22 with a night scope would take care of the squirrels eating your garlic shoots.

Tree otters!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 15, 2026 04:34 PM (Kt19C)

69 Time to fire up the Instapot to make a batch of beef-onion-mushroom-chicken broth-rice casserole.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 15, 2026 04:34 PM (CSQvy)

70 Electric or gas oven?

Either way though...I'd just use the stove top and wait on oven use til you fix it. Lots of good things can be done with a stovetop and/or a microwave in a pinch.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:32 PM (tOcjL)

64 Denny clearly you need to burn the house down and get new appliances when you rebuild. I know this is FWP advise, not food thread advice
Posted by: PaleRider at March 15, 2026 04:33 PM (+89TD)

It's an electric oven, thanks for the advice Nova!

And I have already contacted my local Arson Professional, so good thought Palerider!

Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:35 PM (dmDsy)

71 Thought I would try steel-cut oats. Turns out you can't cook steel-cut oats at 5598' ASL.

Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:36 PM (ZxPkt)

72 Walked a grocery with the kids...while dad protested, all the rest of us turned down the $1.99/lb corned beef. Just not feeling it this year. The budget part of me is pained, but that part did buy the red potatoes (for potato salad) and all the cheap cabbage (2 stores of that), so I got that part of me down to a whisper.

Corning is just not for me...I don't really love that cure prep...ever...even when I do it all to my preference.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (tOcjL)

73 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (dmDsy)

There is an air gap between the inner and outer glass panels...that's for insulating the heat of the oven from the exterior glass. The interior glass will be as hot as the oven, and it will radiate a lot of heat into the kitchen.

So...if you use the oven, your kitchen will get hot, and there is a significant risk of getting burned very badly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (n9ltV)

74 Holy crap! There's a really strong front that coming tomorrow. It currently stretches from Houston to Canada, with nary a break. Methinks tomorrow will NOT be the day for grilling.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)
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Or it could be the most exhilarating grilling experience of your life...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (ESVrU)

75 Can't make meatloaf either. My meatloaf just falls apart. No structural integrity whatsoever.

Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (ZxPkt)

76
One plaintiff in the food stamps case said he might need a quick hit of sugar because of his medical condition, so he needs sugary soft drinks. . Well, fruit juices such as apple or grape are SNAP eligible.

I'd like to see who's funding the suit Pepsi Cola and others?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 15, 2026 04:38 PM (azNOR)

77 28 oz can of "turkey meat

I made chicken salad with Swanson's canned and my adult son called me a crazed maniac.
Tonight is sheetpan fajitas because I'm really trying to take it easy and that queso fresco in the fridge called to me.

Posted by: Flanole at March 15, 2026 04:38 PM (ZnrCl)

78 My stew came out darker than Gruel’s don’t know why. A few possibilities, I really caramelized the onions, and also my wife picked up cooking sherry instead of white wine. I don’t know if that would do it but regardless, it was really well received.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 15, 2026 04:38 PM (nHXB4)

79 It's an electric oven, thanks for the advice Nova!

And I have already contacted my local Arson Professional, so good thought Palerider!
Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:35 PM (dmDsy)

I mean even if you need baked treats, mug cakes in the microwave, or skillet cakes like pancake cakes, are both good

. As are puddings, poached pears, and other sweet options that love a stove!

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:39 PM (tOcjL)

80 Holy crap! There's a really strong front that coming tomorrow. It currently stretches from Houston to Canada, with nary a break. Methinks tomorrow will NOT be the day for grilling.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)
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Or it could be the most exhilarating grilling experience of your life...

*me, looking skyward*
"Imma keep grilling. I don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come down for quite awhile."

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:39 PM (Riz8t)

81 Tell me that’s chocolate sauce and icing on that m&m pizza, please!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 15, 2026 04:39 PM (gqKkr)

82 I tried making a pot pie using a boiled water crust, instead of the usual rough pastry. I need to try a couple of tweaks to see if I can make it better, but on the whole it was as good as my poor rough pastry, and it was much easier to make. The downside is it had much the same texture as the Swanson frozen crust, which is why I need to try some changes.

I had enough dough to make two pies, one was with the leavings of a rosemary pork stew, and the second one was leftovers of my corned beef and cabbage dinner, with the gravy made from the cooking broth.
Corned beef makes a surprising pot pie.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 04:40 PM (rbvCR)

83 Husband wants to cook a corned beef, potatoes, cabbage and carrots in the crockpot for St. Patrick's Day.

I told him I think that is too much stuff to put in the crockpot.

How do ya'll cook that?

Posted by: four seasons at March 15, 2026 04:25 PM (3ek7K)

Wouldn't recommend slow cooking cabbage. Add all the other ingredients to your crock pot. About an hour before dinner time, Roughly dice your cabbage and saute in olive oil and maybe some carraway seeds. I usually would do this in a large stock pot so you can move the cabbage around as it cooks.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 15, 2026 04:40 PM (nbLIj)

84 Well. Dang.
Pastor had a great sermon today, but now I really want a Mexican Mule.
What to do...what to do...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 04:40 PM (2WIwB)

85 One plaintiff in the food stamps case said he might need a quick hit of sugar because of his medical condition, so he needs sugary soft drinks. . Well, fruit juices such as apple or grape are SNAP eligible.

Nobody said you can't buy your own soda. Are you so poor that you can't buy a single bottle or roll of candy?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 15, 2026 04:40 PM (Riz8t)

86 Regarding vagaries of wine... I thought that was what made wine snobbery possible? "Oh, you want the '47, it was the only good year they bottled that decade."

Posted by: RandomDave at March 15, 2026 04:41 PM (aJQbY)

87 75 Can't make meatloaf either. My meatloaf just falls apart. No structural integrity whatsoever.
Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (ZxPkt)

Eggs?

And if they aren't enough, you can do a Mexican meatloaf, and also add guac or mashed avocado (which acts like a double binder then when you mix it with dry - gotta also have enough dry)...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:41 PM (tOcjL)

88 Wow, you can get a tender brisket after only a few hours of roasting? You must have some cooking voodoo, a time dilation machine, or we have different definitions of ‘tender.’

For truly tender, fall-apart brisket nirvana where Christians and Jews agree on a messiah, I have to roast the meat at least 8 hours, preferably 10+. That’s how long it takes to break down the collagen at low and slow.

Yea, I can make a pretty good brisket in a few hours. The meat is not hard, and quite flavorful, but I wouldn’t call it tender or anywhere near the nirvana ideal.

In fact, we did St Paddy dinner yesterday, and we did corned beef — duh — and only had time to roast for maybe 3-4 hours. Came out good, tasty, but I wouldn’t call it tender.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 04:41 PM (m/YDg)

89 Tonight we are having grilled chicken breast with a citrus glaze, I am using Sumo tangerines because I have a lot of them, cumin, smoked paprika, garlic, salt, pepper, etc with crispy green beans and salad. I may use ladybug picnic salt from beautiful briny sea, I am out of unicorn salt from them. I need to go order that now while I am thinking about it.

Posted by: Piper at March 15, 2026 04:43 PM (Wmg4n)

90 There is an air gap between the inner and outer glass panels...that's for insulating the heat of the oven from the exterior glass. The interior glass will be as hot as the oven, and it will radiate a lot of heat into the kitchen.

So...if you use the oven, your kitchen will get hot, and there is a significant risk of getting burned very badly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

IOW - Wear the asbestos pants.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 15, 2026 04:45 PM (/lPRQ)

91 “you want like a TB or two of the pickling liquid“

Terabyte?

Shit. On Amazon now. Obviously need to update my kitchen measuring implements…

Posted by: Gunslinger at March 15, 2026 04:45 PM (HZfH/)

92 Well. Dang.
Pastor had a great sermon today, but now I really want a Mexican Mule.
What to do...what to do...
Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 04:40 PM (2WIwB)

What, are you Southern Baptist? Drink up, I won’t tell!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 15, 2026 04:45 PM (gqKkr)

93 I would love to have a commercial meat slicer for the day after a brisket or corned beef dinner.

Or a rib roast
Or Turkey breast roast

Does anyone have one and what brand and how much of a pain in the arse is it to clean?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (A5RD0)

94 Smokey Bacon Brisket Chili

1 medium yellow onion
2 bell peppers, chopped
1 tbsp minced garlic
1 14 oz can fire-roasted tomatoes, diced
2 cups chicken stock
1 cup beef stock
1 bottle beer (I used Dead Guy Ale on hand)
2.5 lbs brisket, cubed*
6 strips of cooked bacon, cut into pieces
2 cans chili beans in mild sauce
1 tsp chocolate/cocoa powder
1 tbsp smoked paprika
1 tbsp cumin
2-3 tbsp chili powder (I used a chipotle blend)
1/2 tsp dried thyme
1/4 tsp oregano
Black pepper and salt to taste
2 spoonfuls of masa hating to thicken

I don't have a smoker so I used a smoky black pepper rub in the brisket and cooked it at 250 degrees for 5-6 hours in a pan, with a bit of liquid (tented in foil for the first two hours).

Sauté onion, garlic, and peppers; add seasonings, sauté for three more mins.
Dump in crockpot along with can of tomatoes and chicken/beef stock. Add brisket, bacon, and beans. Stir so the delicious gestalt of flavors can brood. Heat on low for 3-4 hours.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (kpS4V)

95 91 “you want like a TB or two of the pickling liquid“

Terabyte?

Shit. On Amazon now. Obviously need to update my kitchen measuring implements…
Posted by: Gunslinger at March 15, 2026 04:45 PM (HZfH/)

See, this is how we destroy our AI overlords - use initials and acronyms with multiple uses!

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (tOcjL)

96 When my daughter was young we would make dessert “pizza” together from a big disk of sugar cookie dough rolled thin and baked. Very stiff whipped cream as the “sauce” on top. And then we would place fruit slices on it. Kiwi, strawberry, blueberry,… etc. finish with a few drizzles of honey.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 15, 2026 04:47 PM (nHXB4)

97 I am going back to church in 15 minutes for evening service, so the only spirits I’m having is about a thimbleful of sacramental wine.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 15, 2026 04:48 PM (gqKkr)

98 but now I really want a Mexican Mule.
What to do...what to do...
Posted by: Diogenes

I was wondering why a "Mexican Mule" was not called a "Burro."

So I looked it up.

And the "El Burro" cocktail is..... a Mexican Mule.

Though it is The Internet, so there are 75 variations, adding things like pineapple juice and Angostura bitters.....

Posted by: mikeski at March 15, 2026 04:49 PM (VHUov)

99 This was "my" winning recipe at the chili contest. It was not as spicy as is my wont because this was a gathering of Midwesterners, so adjust to suit your taste. I used the homemade stocks on hand.

I don't have a smoker, and am agnostic on the religious war of Beans/No beans.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 04:49 PM (kpS4V)

100 Does anyone have one and what brand and how much of a pain in the arse is it to clean?
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (A5RD0)

My wife brought home a Sunbeam counter top deli slicer from the church rummage sale, it is chrome and probably as old as I am. It has to be disassembled to be cleaned, and honestly it needs to be regreased as well.
It does, however, work very well at slicing roasts and corned beef very thin and even.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 04:49 PM (rbvCR)

101 Eris!

I love that you add dark cocoa! Looks like a winner recipe.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:50 PM (A5RD0)

102 My meatloaf just falls apart. No structural integrity whatsoever.

Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (ZxPkt)

Try the linked recipe. It is excellent. And relatively easy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:51 PM (n9ltV)

103 I liked the post about liking venison with fresh berries and a drizzle of honey. The poster was a black bear.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 15, 2026 04:51 PM (gqKkr)

104 For the whiskey fans, for St Paddy Day I splurged on Redbreast 18. No, it’s not a busty freckled Irish lass (too bad). It’s Irish whisky. My brother and I tried it last night. Killed half the bottle.

My tasting notes: Wow. This is some seriously good shit. Smooth, flavorful, complex, finish to die for. 92 proof so it’s good some kick but won’t fuck you in the ass. Just a little tickle.

Highly recommended. I’m surely getting another bottle.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 04:52 PM (m/YDg)

105 71 Thought I would try steel-cut oats. Turns out you can't cook steel-cut oats at 5598' ASL.
Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:36 PM (ZxPkt)

I'll bet if you had one of those InstaPots everyone crows about, you could cook them in that.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 15, 2026 04:53 PM (h7ZuX)

106 What, are you Southern Baptist? Drink up, I won’t tell!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 15, 2026 04:45 PM (gqKkr)

Well, I've never been to a Baptist Church in the South...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 04:53 PM (2WIwB)

107 Posted by: Denny Crane - Umm.. This Also Was a Text I Received from President Trump. at March 15, 2026 04:28 PM (dmDsy)

There is an air gap between the inner and outer glass panels...that's for insulating the heat of the oven from the exterior glass. The interior glass will be as hot as the oven, and it will radiate a lot of heat into the kitchen.

So...if you use the oven, your kitchen will get hot, and there is a significant risk of getting burned very badly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:37 PM (n9ltV)

Ah, shit, I was afraid that was the purpose of the double glass.... well, I got a pre-made meatloaf from Wegmans, that won't take long, so Imma gonna risk it!

This time, anyway... obviously I'll be googling "new glass for some old Frigidaire stove" later tonight.

Posted by: Denny Crane - My Body Is Made... Of Asbestos. at March 15, 2026 04:53 PM (dmDsy)

108
Ah, shit, I was afraid that was the purpose of the double glass.... well, I got a pre-made meatloaf from Wegmans, that won't take long, so Imma gonna risk it!

This time, anyway... obviously I'll be googling "new glass for some old Frigidaire stove" later tonight.
Posted by: Denny Crane - My Body Is Made... Of Asbestos. at March 15, 2026 04:53 PM (dmDsy)

No, no, no...grab a pan, coat it with oil, and just smoosh the meatloaf down into it on your stove top on medium heat...make it a skillet circle. Let it crust on the non-sauced side and flip it.

See if it turns out. If it starts burning before fully cooking, then you can just turn it almost into a beef scramble...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:55 PM (tOcjL)

109 >>>Can't make meatloaf either. My meatloaf just falls apart. No structural integrity whatsoever.

Posted by: Don Black

>You need a binder; eggs, crackers, breadcrumbs, croutons or dressing. It's a meatloaf. Probably not designed to be gluten free.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 04:55 PM (M9gjJ)

110 What is "allocated" booze?

I liked that guy's video. What is with judgemental online Savanarolas condemning people?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 04:57 PM (kpS4V)

111 You need a binder; eggs, crackers, breadcrumbs, croutons or dressing. It's a meatloaf. Probably not designed to be gluten free.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 04:55 PM (M9gjJ)

At least some rebar...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 04:57 PM (n9ltV)

112 Work cafeteria one day had bbq chicken, with sides macaroni cheese, or boiled cabbage. I often don’t have time to go so I walk down to a nearby kiosk with packaged versions of the day’s meal. I want to state here that the only correct logical expression for relating those two sides is most definitely “OR”.

So I grab a container, take it back to my desk, and opened it up to dig in. Those MF’ers “AND”ed the sides! Boiled cabbage AND macaroni mixed together! The horror.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 15, 2026 04:58 PM (nHXB4)

113 I may use ladybug picnic salt from beautiful briny sea, I am out of unicorn salt from them. I need to go order that now while I am thinking about it.
Posted by: Piper at March 15, 2026 04:43 PM (Wmg4n)

Whaaaaat? Thought you were speaking James Joyce for a minute, because none of that made sense. But I love salt, all the salt, so I looked it up. I'm going to enjoy poking around that website.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 15, 2026 04:58 PM (h7ZuX)

114 I'm making a Shepherd's Pie for Paddy's Day. I love lamb.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 04:58 PM (kpS4V)

115 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 04:57 PM (kpS4V)

Allocated booze is the rare stuff that is doled out in small quantities to liquor stores, based on their purchases of the cheaper mass-market stuff. So a liquor store might get one or two bottles of the good stuff, and they have to figure out how to sell it. Lottery? Points systems based on how much each customer buys, etc. Or they can just jack the price!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:00 PM (n9ltV)

116 I would love to have a commercial meat slicer for the day after a brisket or corned beef dinner.

Or a rib roast
Or Turkey breast roast

Does anyone have one and what brand and how much of a pain in the arse is it to clean?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM

I bought one from cabelas about 10-12 years ago and it works fine. Very heavy but very adjustable, I bought the middle of the road one. Not the most expensive unit but a couple steps up from their lowest price models which are cheap plastic junk. Sort of a biotch to clean but disassembly is straightforward just time consuming. I use it for my jerky meat cutting as well.

Sucker is sharp and you need to wear cut resistant gloves when taking it apart to clean it or reassemble it or you are going to need a handful of bandaids.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 15, 2026 05:00 PM (0N4FZ)

117 urns out you can't cook steel-cut oats at 5598' ASL.
_-_
6000 even here...my wife has a long list of modifications to recipes to make things work.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 05:00 PM (CdCSf)

118 Fun site!

https://shop.beautifulbrinysea.com/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:00 PM (kpS4V)

119 Daughter is coming for St. Patrick's day (my brother is Pat Jr, dad was Pat Sr, his dad was Patrick Henry, HIS dad was Patrick Michael, and so on back to repelling the Vikings), so I am locked and loaded.
Corned beef brisket going in the crockpot Tuesday morning with some Yukon Golds, a bottle of stout, and some beef broth, to be joined a couple hours later with cabbage wedges and little carrots.
Tomorrow I'm baking a gingerbread, and I have a mini of Bailey's to whip into some heavy cream.
Harp and Guinness in the back of the fridge.
The Commitments, to be followed by The Quiet Man.
I am ready!
(with my splurge new shirt, $8 on Etsy, emerald green with a nice Kells-ish rendering of the man himself gesturing at a knot of snakes, with Gothic lettering spelling out "Go on now. Git.")

Posted by: barbarausa at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (enw9G)

120 Yesterday someone, a cherished someone even if I can't remember who, was talking about "olallieberries" which was a type of commercial loganberry.

This irritates me because "olallie" is Chinook jargon for "berry" generically. It did mean salmon berry by itself but it was used as the class identifier for other berry fruit.

Which means olallieberries are "berry berries"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (rbvCR)

121 105 71 Thought I would try steel-cut oats. Turns out you can't cook steel-cut oats at 5598' ASL.
Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 04:36 PM (ZxPkt)

What the hell, are you on the moon???

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (dmDsy)

122 Thanks, CBD. Wow, that's a great way to start a riot!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (kpS4V)

123 I impulse bought a glass bowl airfryer. Don't know why. I'll never use it. My oven has convection setting.

Posted by: Flanole at March 15, 2026 05:02 PM (ZnrCl)

124 Which means olallieberries are "berry berries"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (rbvCR)

Serve them with shrimp scampi.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:03 PM (n9ltV)

125 No, no, no...grab a pan, coat it with oil, and just smoosh the meatloaf down into it on your stove top on medium heat...make it a skillet circle. Let it crust on the non-sauced side and flip it.

See if it turns out. If it starts burning before fully cooking, then you can just turn it almost into a beef scramble...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:55 PM (tOcjL)

Oh, I like that! Thanks!

I have mashed taters with it, sounds like a great solution.

Posted by: Denny Crane at March 15, 2026 05:03 PM (dmDsy)

126 ...with my splurge new shirt, $8 on Etsy, emerald green with a nice Kells-ish rendering of the man himself gesturing at a knot of snakes, with Gothic lettering spelling out "Go on now. Git.")
Posted by: barbarausa at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (enw9G)
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A lot classier than my t-shirt that says "O'talian"!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:04 PM (kpS4V)

127 Made my pork shoulder ala pernil earlier this week, aka, Puerto Rican pulled pork. After scoring the skin, the shoulder marinates in the following:

Sofrito (3 Tbspn)
Oregano (2 Tbspn)
Garlic powder (1 Tbspn)
1 teaspoon:
ground coriander
onion powder
paprika
cumin
½ cup olive oil
S&P to taste

After four hours (over night even better) make a braising liquid of 1 cup orange juice, 1/2 cup of water and a 1/4 cup of lime juice. Pour this into a roasting pan, add the shoulder, cover tightly with aluminum foil and bake at 300. 5-6 lb roast should be done in about three hours, then remove foil and blast at 400-450 for another 30 minutes to crisp up the skin.

Remove from the oven, skim fat from the braising liquid, add maybe two tbspns of cider vinegar then pour into a bowl filled with chopped parsley. This is your garnish. If the roast falls apart as you try to lift it out of the pan, you've done it correctly...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 15, 2026 05:04 PM (nbLIj)

128 Which means olallieberries are "berry berries"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 05:01 PM (rbvCR)

Serve them with shrimp scampi.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:03 PM (n9ltV)

You may have to hit the ATM machine first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:05 PM (kpS4V)

129 Does anyone have one and what brand and how much of a pain in the arse is it to clean?
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (A5RD0)

Or as a syrup for my ahi tuna, yes.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 05:05 PM (rbvCR)

130 Which means olallieberries are "berry berries"
_-_
Pretty sure y'all are putting the word "berry" after random words. Never even heard of some of those.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 05:05 PM (CdCSf)

131 My eggplant experiment came out great. Peeled , cut into cubes, salted and left for an hour, tossed lightly in olive oil then pan fried at 400 degrees. Held its shape and cooked up just right.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2026 05:05 PM (+nEug)

132 So a liquor store might get one or two bottles of the good stuff, and they have to figure out how to sell it. Lottery? Points systems based on how much each customer buys, etc. Or they can just jack the price!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:00 PM (n9ltV)

How about a sex party, in my office, where we all get to imbibe in all our desires?

Posted by: Denny Crane - My Weekend is Free at March 15, 2026 05:06 PM (dmDsy)

133 Made my pork shoulder ala pernil earlier this week, aka, Puerto Rican pulled pork.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 15, 2026 05:04 PM (nbLIj)

Nice! Classic recipe, and oh boy, it is delicious. I usually just eat it plain, although sometimes I'll get fancy and heat it up first.

Yeah...I like Pernil...a lot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:06 PM (n9ltV)

134 O'Talian is fine!
(my other half is Hungarian, so I'm not pure)

Posted by: barbarausa at March 15, 2026 05:07 PM (enw9G)

135 Pretty sure y'all are putting the word "berry" after random words. Never even heard of some of those.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 05:05 PM (CdCSf)

its a Northwest thing. Like geoduck.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 15, 2026 05:07 PM (rbvCR)

136 As we had our St. Patty's Day party at church this afternoon (Yes! For the uninitiated, Catholics drink bigly!) And Father received bottles of Bushmills out the ass, so he gave me his unopened bottles of bourbon. A couple of Weller's in the mix along with some Knob Creek. My favorite is 'Free' so it's all good.

I brought home enough corned beef and Sheppard's Pie to feed an army so it looks like leftover this week.

All week.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2026 05:07 PM (cYBz/)

137 (my other half is Hungarian)
---
Zsa Zsa GoBragh!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:09 PM (kpS4V)

138 125 No, no, no...grab a pan, coat it with oil, and just smoosh the meatloaf down into it on your stove top on medium heat...make it a skillet circle. Let it crust on the non-sauced side and flip it.

See if it turns out. If it starts burning before fully cooking, then you can just turn it almost into a beef scramble...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 04:55 PM (tOcjL)

Oh, I like that! Thanks!

I have mashed taters with it, sounds like a great solution.
Posted by: Denny Crane at March 15, 2026 05:03 PM (dmDsy)

Your welcome - anything to keep the Horde happy and healthy and alive (please don't use the oven - if you have other oven needs, post to any thread and I'll send more ideas!)

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 05:09 PM (tOcjL)

139 I chat up the local liquor store owner every time I see him. He's a (dot) Indian. We chat about all sorts of things. Got a bottle of Old van Winkle 10 year old for a couple Franklins.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 05:09 PM (jtM2q)

140 will tell daughter Zsa Zsa Go Bragh--she will use it!

Posted by: barbarausa at March 15, 2026 05:10 PM (enw9G)

141 Man, the wind has kicked up considerably but the green egg is going and monkfish will get started here pretty quickly. Lime rice instead of risotto, though.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 15, 2026 05:11 PM (3Ope8)

142 I have mashed taters with it, sounds like a great solution.
Posted by: Denny Crane at March 15, 2026 05:03 PM (dmDsy)

Your welcome - anything to keep the Horde happy and healthy and alive (please don't use the oven - if you have other oven needs, post to any thread and I'll send more ideas!)
Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 05:09 PM (tOcjL)

*smiley face*

Posted by: Denny Crane - I'm Gonna Grill On The Stovetop! at March 15, 2026 05:11 PM (dmDsy)

143 >>>Pretty sure y'all are putting the word "berry" after random words. Never even heard of some of those.
Posted by: Don in SoCo

>I'm your huckleberry. Dingleberries are right out.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 05:13 PM (M9gjJ)

144 Thermal cookers (non-electric) are magic here.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 15, 2026 05:13 PM (CdCSf)

145 It's been rain and high winds here for a few days. Luckily no felled trees or power lines.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:16 PM (kpS4V)

146 I will bookmark it and try it another time.

Posted by: Don Black at March 15, 2026 05:17 PM (ZxPkt)

147 I can’t tell what that bourbon guy is bitching about. Maybe there’s a backstory I’m not aware of, but is he complaining that he buys expensive bourbon — he’s pimping a fairly expensive bottle — and others in the ‘club’ don’t like that? Or is the opposite, that he doesn’t buy pricey shit and the snobs in the club don’t like that?

Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 05:18 PM (m/YDg)

148 monkfish will get started here pretty quickly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 15, 2026 05:11 PM (3Ope

Yum!

It used to be called "Poor Man's Lobster," but I think it deserves something better. It's delicious!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:18 PM (n9ltV)

149 Did a Wild Fork-Tender Roast today.
Thought I'd switch it up,

Parboil those tiny potatos 20 mins

Trim and Halve brussels sprouts (you can stop here if you don't celebrate)
Parboil them separately the last 10 mins of the taters
arrange cut side down in the roasting pan
add Salt and a splash of vinegar

Drain and drop taters with gently but not arranged.
Salt if you haven't already.

Add your beef on top and roast as usual.

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at March 15, 2026 05:18 PM (xMTP8)

150 "Baseball been olallieberries good to me!"

-- Chico Escuela (as played by Garret Morris)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 15, 2026 05:19 PM (HlyYF)

151 We've got some great huckleberry products in this region; jams, jellies, wine, vodka and pastries. Not something you see everywhere.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 05:19 PM (M9gjJ)

152 Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 05:18 PM (m/YDg)

He's not pimping anything. He is a bourbon collector who is also starting a distillery, and has a very successful Bourbon club and YouTube channel.

He is criticizing people who don't think it is "fair" that he buys a lot of allocated bourbon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:21 PM (n9ltV)

153 ‘All you motherfuckers will be hearing from our lawyers!’

— Burberry

Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 05:21 PM (m/YDg)

154 151 We've got some great huckleberry products in this region; jams, jellies, wine, vodka and pastries.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 05:19 PM

"I'm your huckleberry."

-- Doc Holliday (as played by Val Kilmer)

My wife hates my "movie quotes for every occasion" routine.

However, if I do it in the Moron comment section, I remain happily married!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 15, 2026 05:22 PM (HlyYF)

155 I chat up the local liquor store owner every time I see him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 05:09 PM (jtM2q)

This is how it is done.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:22 PM (n9ltV)

156 Growing up, we always knew never to complement our mother's meatloaf. If we liked it, we kept quiet, because if we complemented it, she would never make it that way again. There are only so many good meatloaf recipes, and my mother tried all the bad ones, or experimented enough to make us fear meatloaf night.

Posted by: jayhawkone at March 15, 2026 05:23 PM (QSaoA)

157
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 04:46 PM (A5RD0)

In my garage is an antique hand-cranked meat slicer that my mother probably inherited from one of her aunts. She used it to slice her roast beef on the odd Sunday that dad wasn't doing steak. The blade could do with a good professional sharpening. I should take a picture of it and send it to CBD...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 15, 2026 05:23 PM (nbLIj)

158 How the hell does one get bullied out of a bourbon club??

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2026 05:23 PM (2WIwB)

159 Speaking of berries,
I had a hankering for some salmon yesterday, so got a previously frozen fillet of silver at my fish monger.

Because it was frozen, it needed some fat, so I melted some butter and threw in blackberries, lemon, a pinch of sugar and some salt.

Salt and pepper on the fish, then the blackberry sauce, oven for 10 minutes at 400.

Served with homemade coleslaw and turmeric spiked rice.

Beautiful colorful flavorful plate.

Leftover salmon will be a salmon salad sammich tomorrow. Because no one should reheat silver salmon in a microwave. Just. No.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 05:24 PM (A5RD0)

160 I was so very generously gifted a bottle of Watershed 's limited run of their bourbon aged in green walnut casks. Delightful!

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2026 05:25 PM (+nEug)

161 Think I'll make a mandarin orange almond salad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:25 PM (kpS4V)

162 The Bourbon scene is pretty much a "mean girls club." Distilleries purposely bottle a very limited number of certain blends and fete the "mean girls" to fork over big monies for them.

It's a business model as old as the hills.

And to be frank. There's not a whole lot "special" other than rarity between a bottle with a run of 250 bottles and the one before it, using the same equipment and mostly the same ingredients and mash bill that sells for $65.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 15, 2026 05:26 PM (jtM2q)

163 Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 05:18 PM (m/YDg)

He's not pimping anything. He is a bourbon collector who is also starting a distillery, and has a very successful Bourbon club and YouTube channel.

He is criticizing people who don't think it is "fair" that he buys a lot of allocated bourbon.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:21 PM (n9ltV)
——

Ah ok. I think when a YT guy conspicuously waves a product around, I’ll bet money it’s a paid promotion and he is indeed pimping it.

But whatevs. I don’t care what other people do with their money, and I wouldn’t be part of any club that would have me as a member.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at March 15, 2026 05:27 PM (m/YDg)

164 >>>Growing up, we always knew never to complement our mother's meatloaf. If we liked it, we kept quiet, because if we complemented it, she would never make it that way again. There are only so many good meatloaf recipes, and my mother tried all the bad ones, or experimented enough to make us fear meatloaf night.

Posted by: jayhawkone

>Meatloaf is a catchall. Luckily, we have pounds and pounds of venison burger so it never has to be a situation where we're just clearing out the frig.

We have more leeway to refine recipes.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 15, 2026 05:27 PM (M9gjJ)

165 160 I was so very generously gifted a bottle of Watershed 's limited run of their bourbon aged in green walnut casks. Delightful!
Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2026 05:25 PM (+nEug)

I read that and thought it said green walnut cakes and thought "wow, they found a use for fruitcake - huh"...then, I reread it...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 15, 2026 05:27 PM (tOcjL)

166 I hate the haters who bitch about scarcity and "fairness". This is America; if you want something bad enough, there are ways to get it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at March 15, 2026 05:28 PM (kpS4V)

167 Watershed Distillery uses lottery for their limited batches. They just had one for a 9-year straight rye, but I didn't get a lottery place. However, their bottle shop is nearby, and if lottery winners didn't come and purchase their bottle by yesterday, it goes up for sale in the bottle shop.

I really like rye, and I really like Watershed, so I'm going to stop and see if there is a bottle available tomorrow.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 15, 2026 05:28 PM (h7ZuX)

168 The recipe itself is simple. Sear, then remove it and brown a ton of mirepoix, then return the meat to the roasting pan, along with a lot of red wine, some tomato, some ketchup for the sweet teeth among the guests, and some herbs. Cover and roast for a few hours, until it is nice and tender.

This is what lack of exposure to properly smoked brisket leads to.

Mamas, don't let your kids grow up to be East Coasters.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 15, 2026 05:29 PM (0sNs1)

169 And I pulled out my St Patrick’s Day stuff and am now wearing a pair of green and shamrock decorated bracelets Jewells made for me.

Cheers, Jewells. You are missed. Rest in Peace, sweet Lady.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 15, 2026 05:29 PM (A5RD0)

170 bourbon aged in green walnut casks.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2026 05:25 PM (+nEug)

That sounds like fun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:30 PM (n9ltV)

171 Dash, here's hoping you are lucky.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2026 05:30 PM (+nEug)

172 This is what lack of exposure to properly smoked brisket leads to.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 15, 2026 05:29 PM (0sNs1)

It's a Jewish brisket! Really...a braise rather than a roast.

All in all, I prefer smoked brisket, but this way, when done right, is delicious too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2026 05:31 PM (n9ltV)

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