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Gun Thread: Fourth February Edition!
FUNdamentals Last week we talked about range time objectives and the value of having a plan. If you had to identify the biggest 'problem' preventing you from achieving your marksmanship goals, what would it be? Stance? Grip? Sight alignment or trigger mechanics? What, exactly, are your goals and how were they determined? Are establishing goals and measuring progress important to you? Do you have a logical and methodical strategy for practice and improvement? If not, why not? Not everyone wants or needs to be a great marksman. Just because you like to shoot doesn't mean you have to go all nutty about it like someone we know. As long as you are safe, perhaps achieving and maintaining a level of basic competency is all you are after. Does this describe you? If you had to guess, what percentage of all shooters do you think would fall into this category? Let us know what you think in the comments!
Biathlon Competition Whoa! Our pal rhomboid brings the info on biathlon!!
The shooting sport I've long loved is biathlon. Love nordic skiing, but never lived anywhere you could do it as a regular serious hobby, so biathlon was sadly never a real option for me. On a trip to Lake Placid in the mid-90s I did encounter the Russian junior biathlon team (first noticed them as they skated past me like I was standing still - though in fairness I was doing classic style). Watched at the range for a bit - the chain-smoking, vulgarity-spewing Russian coaches didn't disappoint! And I think I still have a Russian 22LR box in my ski wax bag. (I also rented speed skates and glided around the speed skating oval where Eric Heiden and his sister won all those golds in 1980) Competitive biathlon uses special 22LR rifles for the shooting portion (there are large-caliber centerfire biathlons with long-range targets, nordic field, and moose, which are not part of the international circuit that includes the Olympics). Almost all of these rifles are Anschutz, and most of those are Anschutz 1827 Fortner models, whose ergonomics and features represent the evolved state-of-art. These rifles have a straight-pull action, and use 5-round magazines, which are carried in various kinds of mag-holding slots in the stock. There are also small holes in some stocks for individual "extra" rounds, which are allowed in some formats for make-up shots. The minimum weight is 7 pounds. Sights are non-magnified diopter with globe front sights (generally). There is a semi-rigid loop harness like a backpack arrangement that allows the skier to ski comfortably with the rifle on their back. There is a small sling attached to the fore-end, through which competitors stick their support hand to tighten up grip and stability. Minimum trigger pull is 1.1 lbs. There can be features aimed at reducing the effect of snow on the rifle and sights, should the skier fall during a race. And the shooting is what makes biathlon a unique and amazing kind of race. It combines the most aerobic sport there is, cross-country skiing, with a sport that's all about breath control and fine motor skills. You glide into the range with a heart rate of 175, and now need to hit small targets (1.8" in prone, 4.5" in off-hand) 50 meters away. Fast. A good biathlete will clean the 5 target array in 20 seconds - any more, or any misses, and you're likely out of the running. Competitors generally use 40g 22LR lead solids, with special cold-temperature lubricant and a bit of extra powder. There are usually two shooting sessions, first prone, second off-hand (standing), with a ski lap of the course before/after. Some longer events have 4 shooting sessions. No other sport like it. And not only does biathlon center around the tension between speed and precision, thanks to the leverage of the shooting portion, it is the most dramatic kind of race around. The clear leader can, with one or two missed shots on his last range session, fall to 15th place - just like that. Missed shots result in either time automatically added to the competitor's finishing time or a lap around a penalty loop next to the range, which adds varying amounts of time depending on conditions and the skier. I got a one-month subscription to Peacock primarily to watch the biathlon and cross-country in Italy this past week, and it's been spectacular. An indication that biathlon is moving out of its niche is that it is now the mostly highly rated TV winter sport in Europe. Which is incredible really. The amazing advances in cameras (number, type, and quality, to include drone-mounted) and production approach have made both biathlon and cross-country very watchable events. And there's no race format that's more dramatic.Very nice, rhomboid! Thank you very much! Does anyone else have biathlon shooting or competition experience?
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Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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Foof
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2026 07:00 PM (rsSDz)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at February 22, 2026 07:01 PM (Ia/+0)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks to our overtaxed host Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:01 PM (v23vE)
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I swear, Weasel...our EweToob algorithms must be synced. I've been looking at the same biathlon vids.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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Excellent smorgasbord of infotainment, Weasel! Grazie! 🤌🏻
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes. at February 22, 2026 07:03 PM (kpS4V)
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Evening all!!!!
Weasel, I also had my taxes done this week. Owe both Fed & State. But I expected that due to decisions I made during the past year.
No range report. Weather and apathy are the culprits. ;-)
Weasel, I also had my taxes done this week. Owe both Fed & State. But I expected that due to decisions I made during the past year.
No range report. Weather and apathy are the culprits. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:03 PM (NGwt8)
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Sunday night! Been waiting all week, weasel.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 07:04 PM (h87eb)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at February 22, 2026 07:04 PM (sAmhv)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:04 PM (BCwQW)
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"The Giant Claw" is worth it for the puppet. It's as big as a battleship!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 22, 2026 07:04 PM (CHHv1)
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15 rounds fired without break constitutes fully automatic doesn't it?
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:08 PM (+nEug)
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>>> Minimum trigger pull is 1.1 lbs.
How much is that?
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
How much is that?
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 07:11 PM (/lPRQ)
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I finished my taxes this week so I'm in a bad mood. Don't talk to me!
How about the inhabitants of the Cozy Caves? Can we talk to them?
How about the inhabitants of the Cozy Caves? Can we talk to them?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:15 PM (0sNs1)
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13 >>> Minimum trigger pull is 1.1 lbs.
How much is that?
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 07:11 PM (/lPRQ
Touchy, ain’t it?
How much is that?
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 07:11 PM (/lPRQ
Touchy, ain’t it?
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2026 07:15 PM (rsSDz)
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Range report: Took the MP5 to the range for some needed practice. I got good results in semi-auto at 20 yards, but my skills w/ burst and auto at 15 yards leave much to be desired. I can get the shots to land in the target silhouette, but the tight shot groups continue to elude me. I definitely don't have the ability fire three round bursts on the auto setting yet.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:16 PM (BCwQW)
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I picked up an old S&W K-38 a few months ago, and needed it converted back to stock. It was used by a policeman in competition, so it had been converted to single-action-only.
I sent it to the Smith & Wesson custom shop for the work (Weasel's recommendation), and also had them reblue the revolver, since it was a bit beaten up.
I got it back exactly when they said it would be completed, and the work seems of very high quality. The bluing in particular is beautiful...a uniform deep blue that is a credit to the gunsmith!
I sent it to the Smith & Wesson custom shop for the work (Weasel's recommendation), and also had them reblue the revolver, since it was a bit beaten up.
I got it back exactly when they said it would be completed, and the work seems of very high quality. The bluing in particular is beautiful...a uniform deep blue that is a credit to the gunsmith!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2026 07:16 PM (n9ltV)
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rhomboid that helped
Posted by: Skip at February 22, 2026 07:16 PM (Ia/+0)
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How much is that?
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Pretty close to it. A few folks have triggers set in ounces but unless you have a special purpose for it like extreme target shooting at distance or something like biathlons, they are not safe for ordinary handling as you note.
I do neither of those things even when I was shooting longarms and won't have extremely light triggers around on longarms or in particularly handguns. Often, triggers that light are not particularly drop safe and thus unsafe for normal field operations and training.
I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Pretty close to it. A few folks have triggers set in ounces but unless you have a special purpose for it like extreme target shooting at distance or something like biathlons, they are not safe for ordinary handling as you note.
I do neither of those things even when I was shooting longarms and won't have extremely light triggers around on longarms or in particularly handguns. Often, triggers that light are not particularly drop safe and thus unsafe for normal field operations and training.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:17 PM (E4rtv)
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How about the inhabitants of the Cozy Caves? Can we talk to them?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:15 PM (0sNs1)
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FSJ is in our bed and Gertie is on the couch with me waiting for spring.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:15 PM (0sNs1)
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FSJ is in our bed and Gertie is on the couch with me waiting for spring.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 07:19 PM (ei1sX)
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Watching the 1992 Winter Olympics while I was with Alaskan Tanker Task Force (Eielson Air Force Base, Fairbanks) I watched some of the biathlon. We had too much downtime, so I asked other members of the crew if they wanted to learn cross-country skiing. (Eielson had its own downhill slope and its own x-cou try track.)
I got one other guy to go with me. We went and rented the skis. As we were getting our boots laced up, I asked the rental guy how to do it. He explained putting our boots into the bindings. I said, "No, how do you cross-country ski?" He looked at us like we were asking him how to eat soup.
We finally got him to explain the basics, including the most important part - climbing a hill. And, off we went. Into the hills and woods of central Alaska. Pretty soon we had our ski coats off - it's hard work! But it was fun. Remind me at a MoMe to tell the story of the Bugs Bunny Tree on the route.
I got one other guy to go with me. We went and rented the skis. As we were getting our boots laced up, I asked the rental guy how to do it. He explained putting our boots into the bindings. I said, "No, how do you cross-country ski?" He looked at us like we were asking him how to eat soup.
We finally got him to explain the basics, including the most important part - climbing a hill. And, off we went. Into the hills and woods of central Alaska. Pretty soon we had our ski coats off - it's hard work! But it was fun. Remind me at a MoMe to tell the story of the Bugs Bunny Tree on the route.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:20 PM (HLX02)
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Not relevant to guns but all the bits I show my horses in are blued and silver engraved. To me there is nothing more beautiful.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:20 PM (+nEug)
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I think most people would set it off just by feeling for the trigger like they normally do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 07:11 PM (/lPRQ)
I have a CZ TS2 that is about 1.8 pounds, and it is a great trigger. I think obeying the immutable gun safety rules is the most important thing with target triggers. Or any trigger for that matter!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 07:11 PM (/lPRQ)
I have a CZ TS2 that is about 1.8 pounds, and it is a great trigger. I think obeying the immutable gun safety rules is the most important thing with target triggers. Or any trigger for that matter!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2026 07:22 PM (n9ltV)
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BTW, you don't see any of those biathlon folks sticking their support arm out like a chicken wing, do you? No, it's tucked in nice and tight, providing solid support.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:22 PM (J9fYX)
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Howdy all, thanks for the thread Weasel.
FINALLY got to the range today. Been a few months.
#1 I still know what to do and can do it
#2 Started out really good. Very excited. Told TRex maybe I should only visit every few months, etc. Then the range gods took their revenge.
#3 This has actually become most of my muscle memory, stop, go thru the endless list of fundamentals, and identify what the problem is.
Actually, today's solution surprised me: I do have a mild cataract in my dominant eye, and at times I have trouble focusing on the iron sights. Can't change that, but I now know that by widening my stance I am more stable when trying to focus on the sights. Used this for last 4+ mags and every single hole was within one inch of the center! Victory!
FINALLY got to the range today. Been a few months.
#1 I still know what to do and can do it
#2 Started out really good. Very excited. Told TRex maybe I should only visit every few months, etc. Then the range gods took their revenge.
#3 This has actually become most of my muscle memory, stop, go thru the endless list of fundamentals, and identify what the problem is.
Actually, today's solution surprised me: I do have a mild cataract in my dominant eye, and at times I have trouble focusing on the iron sights. Can't change that, but I now know that by widening my stance I am more stable when trying to focus on the sights. Used this for last 4+ mags and every single hole was within one inch of the center! Victory!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I got it back exactly when they said it would be completed, and the work seems of very high quality. The bluing in particular is beautiful...a uniform deep blue that is a credit to the gunsmith!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Congrats, old Smith K Frames often can shoot 1 inch groups at 25 yards in a Ransom Pistol Rest using wadcutters. You already know that the barrel is probably accurate if the crown is not dinged up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Congrats, old Smith K Frames often can shoot 1 inch groups at 25 yards in a Ransom Pistol Rest using wadcutters. You already know that the barrel is probably accurate if the crown is not dinged up.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:22 PM (E4rtv)
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Range Report!
After a 4-week cold weather hiatus (you wussy!), I got back out to the range last week.
I finally got to finish the .45ACP ladder test with the new Berry’s plated semiwadcutter.
And I found the sweet spot. The other loads were 1.2 - 1.8”. The best was 0.740” at 10 yards from a sandbag. All five making one tight hole with crisp edges.
Made the wait worth it.
So I built 150 rounds this morning.
After a 4-week cold weather hiatus (you wussy!), I got back out to the range last week.
I finally got to finish the .45ACP ladder test with the new Berry’s plated semiwadcutter.
And I found the sweet spot. The other loads were 1.2 - 1.8”. The best was 0.740” at 10 yards from a sandbag. All five making one tight hole with crisp edges.
Made the wait worth it.
So I built 150 rounds this morning.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 07:23 PM (o19x0)
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I definitely don't have the ability fire three round bursts on the auto setting yet.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:16 PM
In the movies, you can shoot a three-round burst, while diving over the hood of a muscle car, while looking at your landing area on broken glass shards, and still hit three widely separated bad guys dead center in their respective foreheads.
I assume Weasel is going to cover that on Saturday morning at the next TXMoMe?
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:16 PM
In the movies, you can shoot a three-round burst, while diving over the hood of a muscle car, while looking at your landing area on broken glass shards, and still hit three widely separated bad guys dead center in their respective foreheads.
I assume Weasel is going to cover that on Saturday morning at the next TXMoMe?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2026 07:23 PM (HlyYF)
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I now know that by widening my stance I am more stable when trying to focus on the sights. Used this for last 4+ mags and every single hole was within one inch of the center! Victory!
Posted by: The Grateful
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Nice!.
Posted by: The Grateful
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Nice!.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:23 PM (E4rtv)
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Good evening to all
Finally got some shewtin in on an annual camping trip. Got there after the rain stopped Friday, got set up. Good shooting on Saturday. Worked on grip for pistol- modest change, solid upgrade in stability.
Breathing control and front sight focus with the Hi-Wall 45-70 from a sitting position. Did not get a chance to run some BP reloads but did get a trifle of a shoulder bruise.
Great campfire cooking with desserts by my lovely wife, some good bourbon.
Very hasty pack and escape this morning. Tent leaked and a steady rain.
Thank you Weasel and happy Snow Day to all the GunHorde
Finally got some shewtin in on an annual camping trip. Got there after the rain stopped Friday, got set up. Good shooting on Saturday. Worked on grip for pistol- modest change, solid upgrade in stability.
Breathing control and front sight focus with the Hi-Wall 45-70 from a sitting position. Did not get a chance to run some BP reloads but did get a trifle of a shoulder bruise.
Great campfire cooking with desserts by my lovely wife, some good bourbon.
Very hasty pack and escape this morning. Tent leaked and a steady rain.
Thank you Weasel and happy Snow Day to all the GunHorde
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 22, 2026 07:24 PM (DJPFk)
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Went to the PHX gun show today. Scored 3 10-round mags for my 9 mm AR build. Also got a buffer weight tailor-made for a 9 mm AR.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 22, 2026 07:25 PM (8zz6B)
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Often, triggers that light are not particularly drop safe and thus unsafe for normal field operations and training.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:17 PM (E4rtv)
I've heard people complain that most military firearms (M-16, M-4, M9, 1911, etc.) have triggers that are way too heavy for their taste at the range. I tell them that Private Snuffy isn't (most of the time) a trained marksman and that lighter triggers will result in more negligent discharges in the field. Most people don't understand the abuse most military issued weapons take in their service lives.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:17 PM (E4rtv)
I've heard people complain that most military firearms (M-16, M-4, M9, 1911, etc.) have triggers that are way too heavy for their taste at the range. I tell them that Private Snuffy isn't (most of the time) a trained marksman and that lighter triggers will result in more negligent discharges in the field. Most people don't understand the abuse most military issued weapons take in their service lives.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
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I sent it to the Smith & Wesson custom shop for the work (Weasel's recommendation), and also had them reblue the revolver, since it was a bit beaten up...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Did you send it to Maryville, TN by any chance? The S&W there is 6 miles from our new homestead. We will be breaking ground next month...if I can get the architect to listen to what we want.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Did you send it to Maryville, TN by any chance? The S&W there is 6 miles from our new homestead. We will be breaking ground next month...if I can get the architect to listen to what we want.....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)
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As a former Air Liaison Officer (we could call artillery, as well as Close Air Support) that bit with the howitzer had me smiling. I especially loved the swabber. Some things never change.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM (J9fYX)
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I now know that by widening my stance I am more stable when trying to focus on the sights. Used this for last 4+ mags and every single hole was within one inch of the center! Victory!
Posted by: The Grateful
Dang!
I can't even do that with a black Sharpie and the target within one arm length.
After watching you shoot, I assume all of the smack-talking dinosaurs in the vicinity immediately dialed back their rhetoric?
Posted by: The Grateful
Dang!
I can't even do that with a black Sharpie and the target within one arm length.
After watching you shoot, I assume all of the smack-talking dinosaurs in the vicinity immediately dialed back their rhetoric?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2026 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
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The Grateful, don't let up on your architect. Get what you want.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (+nEug)
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I definitely don't have the ability fire three round bursts on the auto setting yet.
Posted by: Ed L
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Takes a lot of ammo shooting to get to that level of proficiency. The three burst, at least in the AR, was from some less than impressive ballistic theory that it would maximize the dispersion around the center of POA to make sure to hit a critical part with at least one of the bullets and also to minimize ammo wastage by troops on full auto. The latter was viewed as more important than the former. In practice for the AR, it was junked because of the need to master three different trigger pulls. Semi auto, burst with one or two rounds fired, and then the pull with the remaining round.
Dunno if we got the three shot burst mode idea from the Germans or if we invented that botched idea for ourselves.
Posted by: Ed L
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Takes a lot of ammo shooting to get to that level of proficiency. The three burst, at least in the AR, was from some less than impressive ballistic theory that it would maximize the dispersion around the center of POA to make sure to hit a critical part with at least one of the bullets and also to minimize ammo wastage by troops on full auto. The latter was viewed as more important than the former. In practice for the AR, it was junked because of the need to master three different trigger pulls. Semi auto, burst with one or two rounds fired, and then the pull with the remaining round.
Dunno if we got the three shot burst mode idea from the Germans or if we invented that botched idea for ourselves.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
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After watching you shoot, I assume all of the smack-talking dinosaurs in the vicinity immediately dialed back their rhetoric?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Yup...it's just something that has to be done every so often....
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Yup...it's just something that has to be done every so often....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)
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The Grateful, don't let up on your architect. Get what you want.
Posted by: Ben Had
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No worries there, BH. I may be moving to the South, but I will be a NYer at heart til the day I die....
Posted by: Ben Had
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No worries there, BH. I may be moving to the South, but I will be a NYer at heart til the day I die....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:33 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Spent over $30 bucks for a few screws, 2 batteries and some other shit I don't need for a laser for my wife's Ruger LCP custom .380.
It's her "feel good gun" since it has a laser on it.
good grief....
BTW... shipping was $18.
It's her "feel good gun" since it has a laser on it.
good grief....
BTW... shipping was $18.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 22, 2026 07:33 PM (jtM2q)
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I've heard people complain that most military firearms (M-16, M-4, M9, 1911, etc.) have triggers that are way too heavy for their taste at the range. I tell them that Private Snuffy isn't (most of the time) a trained marksman and that lighter triggers will result in more negligent discharges in the field. Most people don't understand the abuse most military issued weapons take in their service lives.
Posted by: Ed L
People spend a lot of time blaming trigger weights rather than doing Weasel's fundamentals on trigger control. Smooth triggers are more important to me than trigger weight (until you get to some grossly overweight triggers in the teens or so). Then again, I learned to shoot double action on revolvers including snubbies. Want to shoot long guns well, then learn to shoot revolvers accurately double action. All triggers seem really light after that.
Posted by: Ed L
People spend a lot of time blaming trigger weights rather than doing Weasel's fundamentals on trigger control. Smooth triggers are more important to me than trigger weight (until you get to some grossly overweight triggers in the teens or so). Then again, I learned to shoot double action on revolvers including snubbies. Want to shoot long guns well, then learn to shoot revolvers accurately double action. All triggers seem really light after that.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:33 PM (E4rtv)
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I used to drive by a division of Honeywell which did military stuff way back in the 1980's. This was Hopkins, MN. They had a self propelled howitzer sitting outside the building for a while, covered in a tarp. This was back when the newer systems were under development, I believe.
I'll never forget driving by, looking over, and, "say wut?"
I'll never forget driving by, looking over, and, "say wut?"
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 07:34 PM (UJMvS)
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Thanks Weasel!
Gotta go do some "Meals on Wheels" runs since Bride of PI made a double batch of chili.
Gotta go do some "Meals on Wheels" runs since Bride of PI made a double batch of chili.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2026 07:35 PM (HlyYF)
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My feel good gun is my .357 but my go to gun in the middle of the night is my shotgun.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:35 PM (+nEug)
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lighter triggers will result in more negligent discharges in the field.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
That's before you ever get to the clearing barrels. (Oh, more war stories.)
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
That's before you ever get to the clearing barrels. (Oh, more war stories.)
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:36 PM (J9fYX)
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39 NYer at heart til the day I die....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:33 PM
Just be sure NOT to vote like one. ;-)
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:33 PM
Just be sure NOT to vote like one. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:36 PM (NGwt8)
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Whig, glad you’re back and dispensing knowledge!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 07:37 PM (o19x0)
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Grateful has accurately summarized our journey to the Range. She is the sniper of the family. I managed to punch a few holes in and around the middle of the paper and clean our booth of used brass.
Best results were after doing a little dry firing to re-wire the brain's mechanics.
The place was packed. Lots of people making the trip the range. Poor weather, so maybe indoor activity was the ticket but still a data point.
Best results were after doing a little dry firing to re-wire the brain's mechanics.
The place was packed. Lots of people making the trip the range. Poor weather, so maybe indoor activity was the ticket but still a data point.
Posted by: TRex - fundamental dino at February 22, 2026 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Somebody asked.about current silencer tax stamp approval times last week. I have two recent examples; from date the e-form was submitted to my getting the email with the tax stamp.
Submitted to ATF: 5 February
Approval received: 20 February
Submitted to ATF: 11 February
Approval received: 20 February
Submitted to ATF: 5 February
Approval received: 20 February
Submitted to ATF: 11 February
Approval received: 20 February
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 22, 2026 07:38 PM (bhZyo)
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I finished taxes again. Nothing to be pissed about (none paid or owed) other than the insanity of the system. Waste of time.
Posted by: epador at February 22, 2026 07:39 PM (TRnzq)
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There are no less than five biathlon clubs in Alaska. People up do ski, and they do shoot, and sometimes they do both. We used to ski in elementary school for recess and gym. I don't they do that anymore, but for a while there, everybody skied. Kikkan Randal is the niece of my sister's best friend (got that? okay then), my sister and her best friend learned to ski in elementary school. Wood skis, pine tar, leather boots and bindings, all that old school jazz.
We also have a world-class skiing venue just off the airport in Anchorage. Lots of great training.
I wonder, though, why Alaskans do so poorly internationally.
I do think the Army should have biathlon teams, and develop them like Navy Seals or something. The sport grew out of WWII stuff in Norway and Finland. Seems like it would be a good fit for special teams of some kind.
We also have a world-class skiing venue just off the airport in Anchorage. Lots of great training.
I wonder, though, why Alaskans do so poorly internationally.
I do think the Army should have biathlon teams, and develop them like Navy Seals or something. The sport grew out of WWII stuff in Norway and Finland. Seems like it would be a good fit for special teams of some kind.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (I40wl)
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...never lived anywhere you could do it as a regular serious hobby, so biathlon was sadly never a real option for me
There is an amateur variant called Summer Biathlon that involves mountain biking and air rifles. I tried to find some place to try it when I lived in CO but never managed to do so. I'm now pretty well aged out of any possibility of participating.
There is an amateur variant called Summer Biathlon that involves mountain biking and air rifles. I tried to find some place to try it when I lived in CO but never managed to do so. I'm now pretty well aged out of any possibility of participating.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (Fs0KI)
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Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 22, 2026 07:38 PM (bhZyo)
An email? Is it a watermarked attachment or something? That seems insecure for the bean-counting lawyers at the ATF.
An email? Is it a watermarked attachment or something? That seems insecure for the bean-counting lawyers at the ATF.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (IXgFt)
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Haven't started my taxes yet. Am guessing pitchforks and torches are not currently on sale...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (aM7HK)
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And,
EdL,
Armed forces, with a few elite exceptions or the US Marines, views firearms training as something that troops just need to be good enough rather than actually trying to improve marksmanship in combat situations. And MTU units, in the past, dunno about now, often didn't help matters because they focus too much on accuracy and not enough on speed. In bad situations, troops have to satisfy both criteria.
To a military with whiz bangs, etc., they often deprecate small arms and crucial realistic training. The training comes back in a hurry when the whizzbangs aren't able to resolve a situation and then just as abruptly gets put on the shelf again after the latest unpleasantness fades away.
EdL,
Armed forces, with a few elite exceptions or the US Marines, views firearms training as something that troops just need to be good enough rather than actually trying to improve marksmanship in combat situations. And MTU units, in the past, dunno about now, often didn't help matters because they focus too much on accuracy and not enough on speed. In bad situations, troops have to satisfy both criteria.
To a military with whiz bangs, etc., they often deprecate small arms and crucial realistic training. The training comes back in a hurry when the whizzbangs aren't able to resolve a situation and then just as abruptly gets put on the shelf again after the latest unpleasantness fades away.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (E4rtv)
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On another note, we had a local range host a large PRS match. 120 shooters from all over the country signed up.
Being as I'm friends with the owners of the range, I was able to wander out and takes some pics, though, they're not all that good.
Figure 120 shooters, not a single rifle less than $5K, most with backup rifles as well.
The match director pulled in some great sponsors, too. Berger, Vortex and Hodgdon being three I can remember off the top of my head. Two days, 16 stages, targets out to 1,000 yards.
Shooters were complaining about the cold and wind in the AM but by mid-day things had calmed down to about an 8mph wind and it was warm and sunny. Typical high desert.
Being as I'm friends with the owners of the range, I was able to wander out and takes some pics, though, they're not all that good.
Figure 120 shooters, not a single rifle less than $5K, most with backup rifles as well.
The match director pulled in some great sponsors, too. Berger, Vortex and Hodgdon being three I can remember off the top of my head. Two days, 16 stages, targets out to 1,000 yards.
Shooters were complaining about the cold and wind in the AM but by mid-day things had calmed down to about an 8mph wind and it was warm and sunny. Typical high desert.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (UJMvS)
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Just be sure NOT to vote like one. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
**********
If I voted like one, I would have stayed there, or in CA...
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
**********
If I voted like one, I would have stayed there, or in CA...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Dunno if we got the three shot burst mode idea from the Germans or if we invented that botched idea for ourselves.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
I think three round burst was one of the things we came up with after Vietnam. In ROTC, I got yelled at by the detachment Sergeant Major for firing my M-16 on an FTX in full auto. He said that the M-16 would overheat very quickly on "rock and roll" (we had borrowed National Guard M-16A1s in the mid 1980s) and overheating the rifle would result in blowing the gas tube. I didn't want to be "That Guy" that got the Sergeant Major P.O.'d. IIRC, Eugene Stoner didn't like burst mode either because training was a better fix for the problem than re-engineering his rifle. The M4A1s in service today now have the auto setting restored, replacing burst mode on earlier M4s. That was in the early 2010s.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
I think three round burst was one of the things we came up with after Vietnam. In ROTC, I got yelled at by the detachment Sergeant Major for firing my M-16 on an FTX in full auto. He said that the M-16 would overheat very quickly on "rock and roll" (we had borrowed National Guard M-16A1s in the mid 1980s) and overheating the rifle would result in blowing the gas tube. I didn't want to be "That Guy" that got the Sergeant Major P.O.'d. IIRC, Eugene Stoner didn't like burst mode either because training was a better fix for the problem than re-engineering his rifle. The M4A1s in service today now have the auto setting restored, replacing burst mode on earlier M4s. That was in the early 2010s.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (BCwQW)
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44 My feel good gun is my .357 but my go to gun in the middle of the night is my shotgun.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:35 PM (+nEug)
I do love a nice shotgun. You really can't miss, after all.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:35 PM (+nEug)
I do love a nice shotgun. You really can't miss, after all.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (I40wl)
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Appropriate for the gunthread. The Mexican government and the Cartels are in a war. We helped take out a biggie.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:44 PM (+nEug)
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I do think the Army should have biathlon teams, and develop them like Navy Seals or something. The sport grew out of WWII stuff in Norway and Finland. Seems like it would be a good fit for special teams of some kind.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (I40wl)
I'm pretty sure they used to. Mostly manned from "mountain" divisions. At the same time they had the cavalry events in which Patton participated. Back when military and sports went hand-in-glove. (But I could be wrong about an Army biathlon team.)
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (I40wl)
I'm pretty sure they used to. Mostly manned from "mountain" divisions. At the same time they had the cavalry events in which Patton participated. Back when military and sports went hand-in-glove. (But I could be wrong about an Army biathlon team.)
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:45 PM (IXgFt)
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tcn, how is your grandson doing? think of you often and pray for your situation everyday...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 07:47 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Appropriate for the gunthread. The Mexican government and the Cartels are in a war. We helped take out a biggie.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:44 PM (+nEug)
The biggest of the biggie from what I hear. Now they need to step up their game and remove the henchmen asap.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:44 PM (+nEug)
The biggest of the biggie from what I hear. Now they need to step up their game and remove the henchmen asap.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 22, 2026 07:47 PM (snZF9)
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Kind of OT, but if you are interested in clips of the violence in Mexico, Eduardo Menoni's X account has a lot of them
Please note, he really hates Pres Scheinbaum, but he has a bunch of clips of the cars burning and some shooting
https://tinyurl.com/y3wsusde
Please note, he really hates Pres Scheinbaum, but he has a bunch of clips of the cars burning and some shooting
https://tinyurl.com/y3wsusde
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2026 07:49 PM (rbvCR)
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Scoob, assuming you didn't present two forms of ID and a Social Security card to join the volunteer snow shoveling teams on Staten Island?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:49 PM (v23vE)
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As a former Air Liaison Officer (we could call artillery, as well as Close Air Support)
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM
867-5309? How did they answer the phone?
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM
867-5309? How did they answer the phone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)
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Kinda slow tonight so if all y'all want to discuss the Mexico dealio it's ok by me.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (mGFn3)
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The first place Sheinbaum ran to for help was us.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:51 PM (+nEug)
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Somebody asked.about current silencer tax stamp approval times last week.
That was me. Thanks for the data points.
That was me. Thanks for the data points.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 22, 2026 07:51 PM (Fs0KI)
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17 CBD,
Congrats on that K-38. The K-38 and K-22 are my favorite DA revolvers. Not just accurate but balanced and with that sweet, sweet smooth trigger.
Congrats on that K-38. The K-38 and K-22 are my favorite DA revolvers. Not just accurate but balanced and with that sweet, sweet smooth trigger.
Posted by: JTB at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (yTvNw)
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Dunno if we got the three shot burst mode idea from the Germans or if we invented that botched idea for ourselves.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
The French FAMAS had both a three-shot burst setting and a 24-round magazine, causing problems for generations of mildly OCD shooters
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)
The French FAMAS had both a three-shot burst setting and a 24-round magazine, causing problems for generations of mildly OCD shooters
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (rbvCR)
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65 Scoob, assuming you didn't present two forms of ID and a Social Security card to join the volunteer snow shoveling teams on Staten Island?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:49 PM
Nope, and if I get ticketed or arrested for digging my car out I will see how much I can get for the lawsuit. :-)
Between the crap compensation numbers at work and the Commie mayor of NYC I just may bump my retirement up a year.
And Schnor, you up for a road trip this October?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:49 PM
Nope, and if I get ticketed or arrested for digging my car out I will see how much I can get for the lawsuit. :-)
Between the crap compensation numbers at work and the Commie mayor of NYC I just may bump my retirement up a year.
And Schnor, you up for a road trip this October?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:53 PM (NGwt8)
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How did they answer the phone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)
Usually with their call sign, occasionally followed by "What do you want destroyed today?" And that true of arty and CAS.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)
Usually with their call sign, occasionally followed by "What do you want destroyed today?" And that true of arty and CAS.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:53 PM (7lLhA)
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Straight pull is a swiss thing, no?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2026 07:54 PM (bss/y)
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By the way, guys have been asking me to join in the .22 shoot. Well, the only serviceable .22 I have needs rings which fit a 11mm dovetail slot. Finally found those, and mounted my Vortex 4x16 scope on the rifle. Looks ridiculous but some of the guys are running Nightforce on their .22's for the match. I think there is steel out to 200 yards. We'll see how it goes.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 07:54 PM (UJMvS)
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Thank you Weasel and happy Snow Day to all the GunHorde.
No Range Report because Michigan weather and recovering from knee surgery at MyMichigan in Saginaw. Today with the help of two physical therapists and a wheeled walker I got out of bed and sat down in a chair!
No Range Report because Michigan weather and recovering from knee surgery at MyMichigan in Saginaw. Today with the help of two physical therapists and a wheeled walker I got out of bed and sat down in a chair!
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (iJAuV)
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The French FAMAS had both a three-shot burst setting and a 24-round magazine, causing problems for generations of mildly OCD shooters
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (rbvCR)
...
24 is divisible by 3. 8 pulls of the trigger...
25 round? or 20?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (rbvCR)
...
24 is divisible by 3. 8 pulls of the trigger...
25 round? or 20?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (bss/y)
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Nope, and if I get ticketed or arrested for digging my car out I will see how much I can get for the lawsuit. :-)
Between the crap compensation numbers at work and the Commie mayor of NYC I just may bump my retirement up a year.
And Schnor, you up for a road trip this October?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:53 PM (NGwt
You know I am, sir.
Between the crap compensation numbers at work and the Commie mayor of NYC I just may bump my retirement up a year.
And Schnor, you up for a road trip this October?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:53 PM (NGwt
You know I am, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:57 PM (v23vE)
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Altered or synthetic comment.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2026 07:58 PM (Cqx++)
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To a military with whiz bangs, etc., they often deprecate small arms and crucial realistic training. The training comes back in a hurry when the whizzbangs aren't able to resolve a situation and then just as abruptly gets put on the shelf again after the latest unpleasantness fades away.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (E4rtv)
Which is why veteran NCO's are critical to make sure lessons like that aren't forgotten. I count myself fortunate that even though I went to Desert Storm in a truck company, my platoon sergeant and two of my three squad leaders had spent time in Vietnam exchanging not-so-pleasantries with the VC or the NVA. They were the ones who beat into the rest of us how important it was to make sure our M-16s (we had A1's in 1991) were kept clean and ready and scrounged up extra ammo and magazines for the rest of us. I also had a "career specialist" in my platoon who did two years in Korea and three more in Vietnam as an infantryman. He helped a lot with making sure the younger specialists and privates got the message the NCOs were putting out.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 07:42 PM (E4rtv)
Which is why veteran NCO's are critical to make sure lessons like that aren't forgotten. I count myself fortunate that even though I went to Desert Storm in a truck company, my platoon sergeant and two of my three squad leaders had spent time in Vietnam exchanging not-so-pleasantries with the VC or the NVA. They were the ones who beat into the rest of us how important it was to make sure our M-16s (we had A1's in 1991) were kept clean and ready and scrounged up extra ammo and magazines for the rest of us. I also had a "career specialist" in my platoon who did two years in Korea and three more in Vietnam as an infantryman. He helped a lot with making sure the younger specialists and privates got the message the NCOs were putting out.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 07:58 PM (BCwQW)
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No Range Report because Michigan weather and recovering from knee surgery at MyMichigan in Saginaw. Today with the help of two physical therapists and a wheeled walker I got out of bed and sat down in a chair!
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (iJAuV)
Prayers for your continued recovery!
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (iJAuV)
Prayers for your continued recovery!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:58 PM (v23vE)
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You know I am, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:57 PM
Well if I am not relocated to Florida by that time I am looking to do the trip to the MoMe again.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at February 22, 2026 07:57 PM
Well if I am not relocated to Florida by that time I am looking to do the trip to the MoMe again.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 07:59 PM (NGwt8)
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An email? Is it a watermarked attachment or something? That seems insecure for the bean-counting lawyers at the ATF.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (IXgFt)
ATF sends the approved Form 4 as an attachment. There is an image of a stamp for "Zero Dollars" at the top of the form, plus my personal information, the silencer model and serial number.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:41 PM (IXgFt)
ATF sends the approved Form 4 as an attachment. There is an image of a stamp for "Zero Dollars" at the top of the form, plus my personal information, the silencer model and serial number.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 22, 2026 07:59 PM (bhZyo)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM (A5RD0)
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Howdy Weasel! Hello to anyone else paying attention, too!
Posted by: Doof at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM (hebJY)
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Howdy Doof!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM (mGFn3)
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Appropriate for the gunthread. The Mexican government and the Cartels are in a war. We helped take out a biggie.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:44 PM
And so it begins...
*in before the guy who always thinks it's beginning*
Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2026 07:44 PM
And so it begins...
*in before the guy who always thinks it's beginning*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Travel BAN in nYC?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (A5RD0)
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85 Howdy Weasel! Hello to anyone else paying attention, too!
Posted by: Doof at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Evening Doof!! Still tracking down bourbon in Kentucky?
Posted by: Doof at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Evening Doof!! Still tracking down bourbon in Kentucky?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (NGwt8)
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Blake, keep us posted on the .22 shoot. It’s a hoot!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (Edxq2)
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Wait. There’s a TRAVEL BAN in RI?
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Fags.
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Fags.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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S'up, Doof?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:03 PM (Wnv9h)
93
25 round? or 20?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (bss/y)
25. Typo.
Thank you
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2026 07:55 PM (bss/y)
25. Typo.
Thank you
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)
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As a former Air Liaison Officer (we could call artillery, as well as Close Air Support)
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM
867-5309? How did they answer the phone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)
Met a USAF staff officer who flew A-10s in 2011. He joked that the answer should have been, "This Warthog Air. We deliver. If it crawls, it falls."
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 07:28 PM
867-5309? How did they answer the phone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 07:50 PM (0sNs1)
Met a USAF staff officer who flew A-10s in 2011. He joked that the answer should have been, "This Warthog Air. We deliver. If it crawls, it falls."
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM (BCwQW)
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I have a CZ TS2 that is about 1.8 pounds, and it is a great trigger. I think obeying the immutable gun safety rules is the most important thing with target triggers. Or any trigger for that matter!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Had to track down some notes and do a quick YouTube search for sanity check -
My CVA Scout 45-70 came out of the box with a 1.5# trigger.
Some YouTube dude had a clip about his being 1.4# and emphasizing do not others just grabbing this without noting that it has a hairtrigger. Others said ~3#.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Had to track down some notes and do a quick YouTube search for sanity check -
My CVA Scout 45-70 came out of the box with a 1.5# trigger.
Some YouTube dude had a clip about his being 1.4# and emphasizing do not others just grabbing this without noting that it has a hairtrigger. Others said ~3#.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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Will do, RI Red. I'm heading out to zero the 22 tomorrow morning. I can't believe I put that much scope on a .22.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM (UJMvS)
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Wait. There’s a TRAVEL BAN in RI?
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Commie Mamdani just issued a travel alert in NYC. All non-essential vehicles "ban"
I think that is first time I have ever seen one.
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Commie Mamdani just issued a travel alert in NYC. All non-essential vehicles "ban"
I think that is first time I have ever seen one.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM (NGwt8)
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Grateful has accurately summarized our journey to the Range. She is the sniper of the family. I managed to punch a few holes in and around the middle of the paper and clean our booth of used brass.
Best results were after doing a little dry firing to re-wire the brain's mechanics.
The place was packed. Lots of people making the trip the range. Poor weather, so maybe indoor activity was the ticket but still a data point.
Posted by: TRex - fundamental dino at February 22, 2026 07:38 PM (IQ6
TRex, are you and Grateful gonna come up and shoot with the big dawgz this Spring?
We even have a section on eye relief …
Best results were after doing a little dry firing to re-wire the brain's mechanics.
The place was packed. Lots of people making the trip the range. Poor weather, so maybe indoor activity was the ticket but still a data point.
Posted by: TRex - fundamental dino at February 22, 2026 07:38 PM (IQ6
TRex, are you and Grateful gonna come up and shoot with the big dawgz this Spring?
We even have a section on eye relief …
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:05 PM (Edxq2)
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EdL,
In Desert Storm I had three very good NCOs. My G-2 section was absolutely squared away thanks to them. And the best part was, they knew it and that made training them in our mission a whole lot easier.
In Desert Storm I had three very good NCOs. My G-2 section was absolutely squared away thanks to them. And the best part was, they knew it and that made training them in our mission a whole lot easier.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 22, 2026 08:05 PM (2WIwB)
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Howdy. We have a biathlon (summer) team that meets and practices for the events in the Mid-Atlantic area. The summer biathlon that we run is usually a 5km run with shooting stages every 1km. There have been events in PA over the years, but now there is only one in Camp Freedom (Carbondale) at the end of May and ours on the Potomac (bring your own filtration device) in August.
We encourage newcomers and love to practice. Our season is from March 28 to the beginning of hunting season and we practice at the Izaak Walton League in Poolesville, MD every second SAT during the season. 40gr LR in bolt action, no optics, trail or road running. You will love it.
Never shot? We can teach you. Don't like running? Neither do I, but I'll run with you. Love FUNdamentals? We do to and are always trying to discover new ways to remind us of that fact.
I started doing this back in Texas in 2010 with the biathlons down in Waco and then up in OK at Thunderbird. Those were heavy duty: centerfire ARs and humping a LOT of ammo over 6 miles. This Eastern version is closer to the Olympic ideal and actually dang good. Email me at md_biathlon at protonmail dot com.
We encourage newcomers and love to practice. Our season is from March 28 to the beginning of hunting season and we practice at the Izaak Walton League in Poolesville, MD every second SAT during the season. 40gr LR in bolt action, no optics, trail or road running. You will love it.
Never shot? We can teach you. Don't like running? Neither do I, but I'll run with you. Love FUNdamentals? We do to and are always trying to discover new ways to remind us of that fact.
I started doing this back in Texas in 2010 with the biathlons down in Waco and then up in OK at Thunderbird. Those were heavy duty: centerfire ARs and humping a LOT of ammo over 6 miles. This Eastern version is closer to the Olympic ideal and actually dang good. Email me at md_biathlon at protonmail dot com.
Posted by: kestrel at February 22, 2026 08:06 PM (Ig9JL)
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Today with the help of two physical therapists and a wheeled walker I got out of bed and sat down in a chair!
Posted by: Bond in Michigan
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Good for you, that's no small achievement. May the rest of your recovery be swift and smooth....
Posted by: Bond in Michigan
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Good for you, that's no small achievement. May the rest of your recovery be swift and smooth....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
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94 Met a USAF staff officer who flew A-10s in 2011. He joked that the answer should have been, "This Warthog Air. We deliver. If it crawls, it falls."
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Except an A-10, that'll just kill you.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:04 PM
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Except an A-10, that'll just kill you.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:06 PM (NGwt8)
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Evening Doof!! Still tracking down bourbon in Kentucky?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (NGwt
Scoooob! Good to see you!
Just arrived in the Bluegrass today. Will be scouting bourbon after work each day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (NGwt
Scoooob! Good to see you!
Just arrived in the Bluegrass today. Will be scouting bourbon after work each day.
Posted by: Doof at February 22, 2026 08:06 PM (hebJY)
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 08:07 PM (m8wiN)
Posted by: Doof at February 22, 2026 08:07 PM (hebJY)
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It takes, what, 10 minutes to walk from the coast to the CT border?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 22, 2026 08:07 PM (O0YTm)
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47 Whig, glad you’re back and dispensing knowledge!
Posted by: RI Red
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Weasel's emphasis on trigger fundamentals cannot be reemphasized enough.
Very light triggers can also be a safety issue if not labeled or known to possible second shooters of the firearm. Bad enough in something like a rimfire, much worse in a centerfire for an Unintentional Discharge by a shooter new to the firearm that does not truly know how a particular very light trigger can fire so easily.
Some of the Walker trigger lawsuits were caused in part because people got to messing around with them to make them even lighter and then carried them into the field that way with loaded hunting rifles. The Walker trigger or most other sporting rifles, as opposed to drop safe battle designs like Mausers, Enfields, or Springfields, only have safeties that block trigger movement, not the sear.
Posted by: RI Red
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Weasel's emphasis on trigger fundamentals cannot be reemphasized enough.
Very light triggers can also be a safety issue if not labeled or known to possible second shooters of the firearm. Bad enough in something like a rimfire, much worse in a centerfire for an Unintentional Discharge by a shooter new to the firearm that does not truly know how a particular very light trigger can fire so easily.
Some of the Walker trigger lawsuits were caused in part because people got to messing around with them to make them even lighter and then carried them into the field that way with loaded hunting rifles. The Walker trigger or most other sporting rifles, as opposed to drop safe battle designs like Mausers, Enfields, or Springfields, only have safeties that block trigger movement, not the sear.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)
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So the Biathlon is way funner if you do it with an M110a2 or a M109a3 Howitzer. 10 miles on snow in Graf and then set up and hit 55 gallon drums at 2 miles.
I SO fucking want to shoot a howitzer again.
I SO fucking want to shoot a howitzer again.
Posted by: Reforger at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (onCFI)
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It takes, what, 10 minutes to walk from the coast to the CT border?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 22, 2026 08:07 PM (O0YTm)
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Only if one lingers during the coffee break.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 22, 2026 08:07 PM (O0YTm)
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Only if one lingers during the coffee break.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (UJMvS)
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CBD,
Congrats on that K-38. The K-38 and K-22 are my favorite DA revolvers. Not just accurate but balanced and with that sweet, sweet smooth trigger.
Posted by: JTB at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (yTvNw)
I picked up a 1950s K-38 myself and agree 100% w/ this. If S&W ever re-introduces this as one of their "Classics" series revolvers, this would be one worth buying.
Congrats on that K-38. The K-38 and K-22 are my favorite DA revolvers. Not just accurate but balanced and with that sweet, sweet smooth trigger.
Posted by: JTB at February 22, 2026 07:52 PM (yTvNw)
I picked up a 1950s K-38 myself and agree 100% w/ this. If S&W ever re-introduces this as one of their "Classics" series revolvers, this would be one worth buying.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (BCwQW)
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TRex, are you and Grateful gonna come up and shoot with the big dawgz this Spring?
We even have a section on eye relief …
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:05 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will do this. You will do this this Spring.
We even have a section on eye relief …
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:05 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will do this. You will do this this Spring.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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For those who haven't seen her do this, here is Kirsten Joy Weiss shooting an egg at 300 yards with a .22lr from standing position. The fact that she kind of looks like Scarlet Johansson's sister doesn't hurt the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtasDhjpI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtasDhjpI4
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at February 22, 2026 08:10 PM (Da7Vv)
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98 Grateful has accurately summarized our journey to the Range. She is the sniper of the family. I managed to punch a few holes in and around the middle of the paper and clean our booth of used brass.
Posted by: TRex
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Hopefully you took the newly fired brass home. Even if you don't reload now, you might in the future and free brass to trade is a call to any reloader worth their salt.
Posted by: TRex
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Hopefully you took the newly fired brass home. Even if you don't reload now, you might in the future and free brass to trade is a call to any reloader worth their salt.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:10 PM (E4rtv)
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TRex, are you and Grateful gonna come up and shoot with the big dawgz this Spring?
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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Yes, we are planning on coming as long as you don't hold it the weekend of April 11-12, or after Mother's Day - as I have multiple MIL appointments and surgeries to supervise.
And when are you going to explain why you added the "who is now Somebody!" to your signature?
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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Yes, we are planning on coming as long as you don't hold it the weekend of April 11-12, or after Mother's Day - as I have multiple MIL appointments and surgeries to supervise.
And when are you going to explain why you added the "who is now Somebody!" to your signature?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!
I am late because I needed to go to Walmart and the slush on the roads in NoVa is, umm, slushy.
I am late because I needed to go to Walmart and the slush on the roads in NoVa is, umm, slushy.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:11 PM (NlEaG)
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111 *channels inner Zod*
You will do this. You will do this this Spring.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:09 PM
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So it is written, so it shall be done (schedule permitting).
You will do this. You will do this this Spring.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:09 PM
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So it is written, so it shall be done (schedule permitting).
Posted by: TRex - scoped dino at February 22, 2026 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
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So it is written, so it shall be done (schedule permitting).
Posted by: TRex - scoped dino at February 22, 2026 08:12 PM
Hope to see you there. It's a great time.
Posted by: TRex - scoped dino at February 22, 2026 08:12 PM
Hope to see you there. It's a great time.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:13 PM (Wnv9h)
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OT: These Conspiracy videos Kirsche are watching are kind of crazy. When you find yourself going 'that's a decent point' you wanna slap yourself. OTOH, Covid.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2026 08:14 PM (bss/y)
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Whig, I have a B&T SPR 300 Pro rifle. That thing has a 3.5 pound trigger from the factory. To me, it feels like if I breathe on it wrong, it'll go off. That's about as light as I want to get on a field rifle.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:15 PM (BCwQW)
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I am late because I needed to go to Walmart and the slush on the roads in NoVa is, umm, slushy.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Sorry, but you need to consult with Tankdemon, who is this site's guru of excuses....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Sorry, but you need to consult with Tankdemon, who is this site's guru of excuses....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Which is why veteran NCO's are critical to make sure lessons like that aren't forgotten. I count myself fortunate that even though I went to Desert Storm in a truck company, my platoon sergeant and two of my three squad leaders had spent time in Vietnam exchanging not-so-pleasantries with the VC or the NVA. They were the ones who beat into the rest of us how important it was to make sure our M-16s (we had A1's in 1991) were kept clean and ready and scrounged up extra ammo and magazines for the rest of us. I also had a "career specialist" in my platoon who did two years in Korea and three more in Vietnam as an infantryman. He helped a lot with making sure the younger specialists and privates got the message the NCOs were putting out.
Posted by: Ed L
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NCOs are a crucial advantage to US forces.
FWIW,
I learned on A1s and actually prefer it to an A-2 as it is much easier to sight in with a few shots than the more complex A-2 iron sights.
By the time I left Uncle Sam's service, we had switched to the A-2. Still prefer the longer 20 inch barrel with the rifle length gas system in the AR. The M4s were a CQB kludge come up with by Colt to keep manufacturing ARs for a time.
Posted by: Ed L
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NCOs are a crucial advantage to US forces.
FWIW,
I learned on A1s and actually prefer it to an A-2 as it is much easier to sight in with a few shots than the more complex A-2 iron sights.
By the time I left Uncle Sam's service, we had switched to the A-2. Still prefer the longer 20 inch barrel with the rifle length gas system in the AR. The M4s were a CQB kludge come up with by Colt to keep manufacturing ARs for a time.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM (E4rtv)
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And when are you going to explain why you added the "who is now Somebody!" to your signature?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:11 PM (IQ6Gq
Hey, Grateful! I had a few of my blog rants in the sidebar (thx, CBD!), and Doof pronounced that I was now Somebody.
As long as I’m not somebody that you used to know.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:11 PM (IQ6Gq
Hey, Grateful! I had a few of my blog rants in the sidebar (thx, CBD!), and Doof pronounced that I was now Somebody.
As long as I’m not somebody that you used to know.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM (Edxq2)
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Sometimes the snow fall rate is so high, they have to shut down the outdoor subway lines.
East of Buffalo, the NYS thruway has gates that block the on ramps when the thruway closes due to snow.
East of Buffalo, the NYS thruway has gates that block the on ramps when the thruway closes due to snow.
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM (T8bqm)
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Wait. There’s a TRAVEL BAN in RI?
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Fags.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
Yo, RMBS!
Storm track looks like Boston will get whacked.
I am saving a comment in that event.
Good lord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:01 PM
Fags.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
Yo, RMBS!
Storm track looks like Boston will get whacked.
I am saving a comment in that event.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:19 PM (Edxq2)
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East of Buffalo, the NYS thruway has gates that block the on ramps when the thruway closes due to snow.
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM
Having been stationed at Ft. Drum....that's gay and lame.
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM
Having been stationed at Ft. Drum....that's gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
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Hey, Grateful! I had a few of my blog rants in the sidebar (thx, CBD!), and Doof pronounced that I was now Somebody.
As long as I’m not somebody that you used to know.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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Good to know, thanks for the clarification! I like your blog, and hope to understand everything alot more this Spring....
As long as I’m not somebody that you used to know.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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Good to know, thanks for the clarification! I like your blog, and hope to understand everything alot more this Spring....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:21 PM (IQ6Gq)
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119 Whig, I have a B&T SPR 300 Pro rifle. That thing has a 3.5 pound trigger from the factory. To me, it feels like if I breathe on it wrong, it'll go off. That's about as light as I want to get on a field rifle.
Posted by: Ed L
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I agree that is about the lowest safe trigger weight on a field rifle. I generally aim at 4.5 lbs or higher on a single stage semi auto setup for social purposes or use two stage triggers on a couple.
Then again, I rarely fire my double action revolvers in single action--it can become a crutch just like I spent enough time with a snubbie to trigger cock the thing. That being said, it is almost always better in the long run to simplify to one trigger pull. Double action.
I really only still have ARs and variants and shotties as single stage triggers as all of my old milsurps are two stages with a few shotguns that way.
Posted by: Ed L
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I agree that is about the lowest safe trigger weight on a field rifle. I generally aim at 4.5 lbs or higher on a single stage semi auto setup for social purposes or use two stage triggers on a couple.
Then again, I rarely fire my double action revolvers in single action--it can become a crutch just like I spent enough time with a snubbie to trigger cock the thing. That being said, it is almost always better in the long run to simplify to one trigger pull. Double action.
I really only still have ARs and variants and shotties as single stage triggers as all of my old milsurps are two stages with a few shotguns that way.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:21 PM (E4rtv)
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I really hope it doesn't snow in April in NH....I lived in New England for a few years, and that's really not out of the question....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Congrats on your shiny new blog RI Red. Went there a couple of times. Rock on.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:22 PM (E4rtv)
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Yo, RMBS!
Storm track looks like Boston will get whacked.
I am saving a comment in that event.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:19 PM
Yeah...we're right in the middle of it. I'm sure Wu will manage to fail.
Me? I''m north of Boston, and I've got my iced coffee ready to go.
Storm track looks like Boston will get whacked.
I am saving a comment in that event.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:19 PM
Yeah...we're right in the middle of it. I'm sure Wu will manage to fail.
Me? I''m north of Boston, and I've got my iced coffee ready to go.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:23 PM (Wnv9h)
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Travel BAN in nYC?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (A5RD0)
Were getting hammered now and have about 15 or so more hours to go.
The last prediction I read was 10-14". A "cyclone blizzard." That's a new one on me. I've been in a blizzard before, with thunder and lightning, but not coupled with cyclone winds. That prediction is gusts upwards of 60 m.p.h.
There's going to be some hellacious snow drifts.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:02 PM (A5RD0)
Were getting hammered now and have about 15 or so more hours to go.
The last prediction I read was 10-14". A "cyclone blizzard." That's a new one on me. I've been in a blizzard before, with thunder and lightning, but not coupled with cyclone winds. That prediction is gusts upwards of 60 m.p.h.
There's going to be some hellacious snow drifts.
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 08:24 PM (gKDq2)
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I think I will get up a little earlier tomorrow and scout out how plowed in the car is.
Supposedly going to get 10 inches or so. Hopefully it is the light and fluffy snow and not the wet and heavy, cause you know, I'm 29 and have to be careful.
Supposedly going to get 10 inches or so. Hopefully it is the light and fluffy snow and not the wet and heavy, cause you know, I'm 29 and have to be careful.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM (NGwt8)
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I have been working on my storage issue. At this point I have - (under my breath) - too many guns. Because you know, if I have one, I have to have two.
So, anyway, been working on converting a closet to a gub room. I suppose I will need extra room for a dehumidifier if I pull the gubs out of the creek. But that is for another day.
I have decided on slatwall or pegboard for a portion of the laager - mostly the few unique items. Those are the ones that probably look the coolest as wall hangers, anyway. But I have also determined that a significant portion of the storage problem is related to accessories of one type or other.
Case in point (pun intended) - I have a soft rifle case for each of the rifles. That seems unnecessary. If I cam packing up the whole kit and kaboodle all at once they are probably getting thrown in the truck without cases. And I have soft cases for nearly every pistol. Same deal. They take up a lot of space just sitting there.
So, anyway, been working on converting a closet to a gub room. I suppose I will need extra room for a dehumidifier if I pull the gubs out of the creek. But that is for another day.
I have decided on slatwall or pegboard for a portion of the laager - mostly the few unique items. Those are the ones that probably look the coolest as wall hangers, anyway. But I have also determined that a significant portion of the storage problem is related to accessories of one type or other.
Case in point (pun intended) - I have a soft rifle case for each of the rifles. That seems unnecessary. If I cam packing up the whole kit and kaboodle all at once they are probably getting thrown in the truck without cases. And I have soft cases for nearly every pistol. Same deal. They take up a lot of space just sitting there.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM (NlEaG)
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My nose was running so badly that I was tempted to have a cigar, just to see if the nicotine would shut off the faucet for a while.
But that would have meant sitting outside.
Also I've been watching the most brain-rotting videos on youtube today.
Send help!
But that would have meant sitting outside.
Also I've been watching the most brain-rotting videos on youtube today.
Send help!
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM (C0Nlv)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:26 PM (NGwt8)
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Some of the Walker trigger lawsuits were caused in part because people got to messing around with them to make them even lighter and then carried them into the field that way with loaded hunting rifles. The Walker trigger or most other sporting rifles, as opposed to drop safe battle designs like Mausers, Enfields, or Springfields, only have safeties that block trigger movement, not the sear.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)
I suspect that some of the Walker trigger woes were caused by old oil inside the enclosed assembly gumming up and solidifying. My standard practice when an old Remington 700 series comes my way is to solvent flush the heck out the trigger assembly. There is sometimes an amazing improvement in the trigger pull. The Model 721 was introduced in 1948, so a fellow could be dealing with 77 year-old gum and varnish inside that semi-sealed box.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)
I suspect that some of the Walker trigger woes were caused by old oil inside the enclosed assembly gumming up and solidifying. My standard practice when an old Remington 700 series comes my way is to solvent flush the heck out the trigger assembly. There is sometimes an amazing improvement in the trigger pull. The Model 721 was introduced in 1948, so a fellow could be dealing with 77 year-old gum and varnish inside that semi-sealed box.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 22, 2026 08:27 PM (bhZyo)
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Supposedly going to get 10 inches or so. Hopefully it is the light and fluffy snow and not the wet and heavy, cause you know, I'm 29 and have to be careful.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM
Not sure about NYC, but they're warning us it's going to be heavy, wet crap. Fortunately, my snowblower farts in wet snow's general direction.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM
Not sure about NYC, but they're warning us it's going to be heavy, wet crap. Fortunately, my snowblower farts in wet snow's general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:27 PM (Wnv9h)
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131 There's going to be some hellacious snow drifts.
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 08:24 PM
I am hoping those drifts are on other peoples cars and not mine. ;-)
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 08:24 PM
I am hoping those drifts are on other peoples cars and not mine. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:28 PM (NGwt8)
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By the time I left Uncle Sam's service, we had switched to the A-2. Still prefer the longer 20 inch barrel with the rifle length gas system in the AR. The M4s were a CQB kludge come up with by Colt to keep manufacturing ARs for a time.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM (E4rtv)
My platoon sergeant said that the M-16A1s we had were too long for the cabs of the trucks we had. He would have preferred to have had the XM-177/CAR-15 carbine instead. I didn't understand why he liked the XM177/CAR-15 so much (he got use one for a bit in Nam) until I picked up a reproduction a few years ago. Even though it was only a replica, I finally understood why he liked the XM177 after holding it in my hands.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM (E4rtv)
My platoon sergeant said that the M-16A1s we had were too long for the cabs of the trucks we had. He would have preferred to have had the XM-177/CAR-15 carbine instead. I didn't understand why he liked the XM177/CAR-15 so much (he got use one for a bit in Nam) until I picked up a reproduction a few years ago. Even though it was only a replica, I finally understood why he liked the XM177 after holding it in my hands.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:28 PM (BCwQW)
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When I was in Germany, the infantry had upgraded to the A2, but we in the artillery still used the A1. I loved my weapon. She never failed me at the range. Qualified expert nearly every time. One time I was hung over, so that one doesn't count.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, aka Agent Frank at February 22, 2026 08:29 PM (0aYVJ)
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I am hoping those drifts are on other peoples cars and not mine. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:28 PM (NGwt
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I really do not miss the days when one used a broom rather than a snow brush to remove snow from the car.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:28 PM (NGwt
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I really do not miss the days when one used a broom rather than a snow brush to remove snow from the car.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurkder in marginal standing at February 22, 2026 08:30 PM (UJMvS)
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Not sure about NYC, but they're warning us it's going to be heavy, wet crap. Fortunately, my snowblower farts in wet snow's general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:27 PM (Wnv9h)
Any storm from south of here is heavy wet snow. The only time it's light and powedery is if it comes from the west; no moisture.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:27 PM (Wnv9h)
Any storm from south of here is heavy wet snow. The only time it's light and powedery is if it comes from the west; no moisture.
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 08:30 PM (gKDq2)
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Congrats on your shiny new blog RI Red. Went there a couple of times. Rock on.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:22 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, I’m having fun with it. Basically a brain dump of my shooting experiences. It recently became sort of a syllabus for newer shooters who want to know more about ARs, then shooting at longer range.
And now that I’ve introduced British Amelia’s cousin Emily, I get to do some AI/Socratic discussions. With visuals!
Yes, being retired I have lots of time on my hands.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:22 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, I’m having fun with it. Basically a brain dump of my shooting experiences. It recently became sort of a syllabus for newer shooters who want to know more about ARs, then shooting at longer range.
And now that I’ve introduced British Amelia’s cousin Emily, I get to do some AI/Socratic discussions. With visuals!
Yes, being retired I have lots of time on my hands.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:32 PM (Edxq2)
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We have a 1/2” and not snowing particularly hard
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:33 PM (8jVAy)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 08:34 PM (A5RD0)
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June, Scoobs, as always. Unless May really looks good!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:35 PM (Edxq2)
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So, anyway, been working on converting a closet to a gub room. I suppose I will need extra room for a dehumidifier if I pull the gubs out of the creek. But that is for another day.
It is a walk-in closet, right?
It is a walk-in closet, right?
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Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:25 PM (NlEaG)
Blaster, I was told by the guy I bought my safe from specifically to NOT store guns in soft cases in the safe. That's because the soft cases can retain moisture that's in contact w/ your firearms. The dehumidifier can get rid of the moisture, but that'll take time.
Blaster, I was told by the guy I bought my safe from specifically to NOT store guns in soft cases in the safe. That's because the soft cases can retain moisture that's in contact w/ your firearms. The dehumidifier can get rid of the moisture, but that'll take time.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:37 PM (BCwQW)
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We have a 1/2” and not snowing particularly hard
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:33 PM (8jVAy)
On the cars parked on the street, the snow is already up to the hubcaps.
It's coming down -- hard, with lots of wind.
Should be interesting. Curious to see how Mayor Mamdani's two-ID citizen snow-cleaning service will work out.
Posted by: Accomack at February 22, 2026 08:33 PM (8jVAy)
On the cars parked on the street, the snow is already up to the hubcaps.
It's coming down -- hard, with lots of wind.
Should be interesting. Curious to see how Mayor Mamdani's two-ID citizen snow-cleaning service will work out.
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 08:38 PM (gKDq2)
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I was in during the A1 to A2 switch. I never wavered in my preference for the A1. If I need full auto I need full auto. Not some 3 round burst.
That being said I carried the 60 every time it mattered.
That being said I carried the 60 every time it mattered.
Posted by: Reforger at February 22, 2026 08:38 PM (onCFI)
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146 June, Scoobs, as always. Unless May really looks good!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:35 PM
Let me know. If it is June, there is this new Federal holiday that occurs on a Friday this year. One less day of vacation I would have to use. :-)
But being it is a holiday I guess that would mean a lot more folks at the range. Belay that. Any Friday but the 19/06 is good.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:35 PM
Let me know. If it is June, there is this new Federal holiday that occurs on a Friday this year. One less day of vacation I would have to use. :-)
But being it is a holiday I guess that would mean a lot more folks at the range. Belay that. Any Friday but the 19/06 is good.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 22, 2026 08:40 PM (NGwt8)
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For those wondering what the heck is going on with Virginia gun laws, I have done a lot of research and this is up to the minute:
The big bad bills - assault weapons ban and mag restrictions - are stuck in committee. (House sent theirs to the Senate where it is in committee with no action. Senate sent theirs to the House where it is in committee with no action.) Just about everything else has met the same fate - passed the house it originated in and is in committee in the other. 11% tax, CCW reciprocity cancellation, plastic gun/80% ban, stuck in committee. Passed and headed to the governor for signature - red flag laws, gun free zones in mental health and medical facilities, and also in state facilities.
To be continued....
The big bad bills - assault weapons ban and mag restrictions - are stuck in committee. (House sent theirs to the Senate where it is in committee with no action. Senate sent theirs to the House where it is in committee with no action.) Just about everything else has met the same fate - passed the house it originated in and is in committee in the other. 11% tax, CCW reciprocity cancellation, plastic gun/80% ban, stuck in committee. Passed and headed to the governor for signature - red flag laws, gun free zones in mental health and medical facilities, and also in state facilities.
To be continued....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:41 PM (NlEaG)
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Blaster, I was told by the guy I bought my safe from specifically to NOT store guns in soft cases in the safe. That's because the soft cases can retain moisture that's in contact w/ your firearms. The dehumidifier can get rid of the moisture, but that'll take time.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:37 PM (BCwQW)
I don't store in the cases - so they are extra and taking up that extra space.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:37 PM (BCwQW)
I don't store in the cases - so they are extra and taking up that extra space.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:42 PM (NlEaG)
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Any storm from south of here is heavy wet snow. The only time it's light and powedery is if it comes from the west; no moisture.
Posted by: RickZ
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See: The Storm of the Century, aka 'The storm with no name'
https://shorturl.at/bIBW0
Posted by: RickZ
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See: The Storm of the Century, aka 'The storm with no name'
https://shorturl.at/bIBW0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 22, 2026 08:43 PM (XeU6L)
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Still prefer the longer 20 inch barrel with the rifle length gas system in the AR. The M4s were a CQB kludge come up with by Colt to keep manufacturing ARs for a time.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM
AR ballistics were predicated on a 20" barrel.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 08:16 PM
AR ballistics were predicated on a 20" barrel.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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We have about 1.5-2 inches of snow at this time, think it is the heavy stuff since it is sticking to every tree limb (which can be described as pretty), supposed to snow all night. The flakes are much smaller now than earlier, but the "intervals" where no snow was predicted to fall have passed, and yes, you guessed it, it snow thru each one. My next profession will definitely be as an alleged meteorologist!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:48 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I understand that M-16A2 was truly a "camel" - i.e. a horse designed by committee. The complex rear sight was the brainchild of the USMC, who wanted a rifle that would perform better at the 500 meter qualification range the USMC still uses to this day and National Match service rifle competitions. The Army wanted the new handguard design (derived from the CAR-15/XM177) and three round burst setting based on its Vietnam experience with the M-16A1. Eugene Stoner wasn't happy with the "improvements" that created the M-16A2, but the Army and USMC won out in the end.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:48 PM (BCwQW)
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Re: Virginia - I thought all of these bills would be a slam dunk - no one left in the government to pump the brakes.
And yet - the vast majority of the bills are stuck in committee. I mean, they can get unstuck. But there is a at least one bill where there is palpable beef between the wild hairs in the House of Delegates and the folks in the Senate who have a smaller majority.
If I had to guess, there is some Democrat Failure Theater going on in Richmond. Like the Republicans who just couldn't find the way to kill Obamacare, these Dems have caught the car and they don't know quite what to do.
Let's pray this holds up.
And yet - the vast majority of the bills are stuck in committee. I mean, they can get unstuck. But there is a at least one bill where there is palpable beef between the wild hairs in the House of Delegates and the folks in the Senate who have a smaller majority.
If I had to guess, there is some Democrat Failure Theater going on in Richmond. Like the Republicans who just couldn't find the way to kill Obamacare, these Dems have caught the car and they don't know quite what to do.
Let's pray this holds up.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:51 PM (NlEaG)
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I apologize, I thought the NH MoMe was in April, as the NoVA MoMe is in June. June and July calendar is much better at this time....In fact TRex and I will be there (Boston) the week of June 15th....yes, I consider all of New England one big state.....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 08:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
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AR ballistics were predicated on a 20" barrel.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
I have to admit that the replica CAR-15/XM177 I have handles pretty well. And the shorty carbines have always had a "cool" vibe to them ever since the Vietnam era, probably because the shorties were the weapon of choice for elite units throughout the years.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2026 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
I have to admit that the replica CAR-15/XM177 I have handles pretty well. And the shorty carbines have always had a "cool" vibe to them ever since the Vietnam era, probably because the shorties were the weapon of choice for elite units throughout the years.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:52 PM (BCwQW)
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Thank God. I wasn't sure if this was February or not.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2026 08:54 PM (diia5)
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RI Red/RMBS/Weasel: Any thoughts about .308 Federal American Eagle ammo (150 grain FMJ, boat tail)? I picked up some because they were on sale at Lucky Gunner for $520 for 500 rounds. I needed some food to feed my new H&K MR 762A4.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:57 PM (BCwQW)
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Grateful, we just sort of sneak in NH, since it’s more of a micro mini MoMe.
Also, rather weather dependent. Gotta make sure the snow is gone and Mud Season is over. Best time is right before Black Fly Season.
Also, rather weather dependent. Gotta make sure the snow is gone and Mud Season is over. Best time is right before Black Fly Season.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:59 PM (Edxq2)
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Another storage item - ammo.
Turns out I have a lot of 9mm - for certain values of a lot. More .308 than I thought, plenty of 5.56. I need to ramp up my .357.
But yes more space!
Turns out I have a lot of 9mm - for certain values of a lot. More .308 than I thought, plenty of 5.56. I need to ramp up my .357.
But yes more space!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:59 PM (NlEaG)
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June, Scoobs, as always. Unless May really looks good!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:35 PM
First two weeks of May are a no go for me. Greece beckons.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 08:35 PM
First two weeks of May are a no go for me. Greece beckons.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:57 PM (BCwQW)
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Sorry, can't recall offhand having used it. I'd guess it's suitable for plinking.
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Sorry, can't recall offhand having used it. I'd guess it's suitable for plinking.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:01 PM (mGFn3)
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If I had to guess, there is some Democrat Failure Theater going on in Richmond. Like the Republicans who just couldn't find the way to kill Obamacare, these Dems have caught the car and they don't know quite what to do.
Let's pray this holds up.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:51 PM (NlEaG)
Color me surprised that the Dems in the state house didn't have their act together on this. Considering how much effort they put into these bills in the waning days of the Youngkin administration, I thought they would have already figured out exactly what they were going to do. Not that I'm complaining, though.
Let's pray this holds up.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 08:51 PM (NlEaG)
Color me surprised that the Dems in the state house didn't have their act together on this. Considering how much effort they put into these bills in the waning days of the Youngkin administration, I thought they would have already figured out exactly what they were going to do. Not that I'm complaining, though.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (BCwQW)
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Ed L., my AR 10 absolutely hates 150 grain ammo by any manufacturer. Much prefers 168, 175.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (Edxq2)
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Grateful, we just sort of sneak in NH, since it’s more of a micro mini MoMe.
Also, rather weather dependent. Gotta make sure the snow is gone and Mud Season is over. Best time is right before Black Fly Season.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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we are in and fully understand....no black fly season....just let us know and we'll do our very best to make it work...Jun and Jul good for MIL appts too....sorry, but our lives are not ours totally....plus I need to be in TN frequently for the new build...but again, really want to attend the NH MoMe so we'll do our best to make it work
Also, rather weather dependent. Gotta make sure the snow is gone and Mud Season is over. Best time is right before Black Fly Season.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody!
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we are in and fully understand....no black fly season....just let us know and we'll do our very best to make it work...Jun and Jul good for MIL appts too....sorry, but our lives are not ours totally....plus I need to be in TN frequently for the new build...but again, really want to attend the NH MoMe so we'll do our best to make it work
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 09:04 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 08:57 PM
I haven't used that specifically, but I've run some good M-80 ball through my Winchester and it shoots well. Like Weasel said, good for casual plinking.
I haven't used that specifically, but I've run some good M-80 ball through my Winchester and it shoots well. Like Weasel said, good for casual plinking.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)
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Sorry, can't recall offhand having used it. I'd guess it's suitable for plinking.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:01 PM (mGFn3)
Thanks, Weasel. I think it'll do for that initial zero and the first rounds fired.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:01 PM (mGFn3)
Thanks, Weasel. I think it'll do for that initial zero and the first rounds fired.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:07 PM (BCwQW)
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AR ballistics were predicated on a 20" barrel.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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True but from my personal experience, shorter barrel lengths such as the M4geries for 223's aka 5.56 cause a more unpleasant recoil sensation, harder on bolt lugs, and more cycling issues with suboptimal ammo. Switch that to a Grendel, 6.8 Spec, or even a 7.62x39, in a shorter than 16 inch barrel, not much of a problem other than enhanced recoil.
Rifle length gas system in the AR smooths that out for a 5.56/223. The 223's predecessor was after all a varminting cartridge the vaunted triple deuce aka 222.
Varminting cartridges prefer long barrels to throw light weight projectives at very high speeds.
As far as the full-length gas system, there's always the Dissipator concept.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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True but from my personal experience, shorter barrel lengths such as the M4geries for 223's aka 5.56 cause a more unpleasant recoil sensation, harder on bolt lugs, and more cycling issues with suboptimal ammo. Switch that to a Grendel, 6.8 Spec, or even a 7.62x39, in a shorter than 16 inch barrel, not much of a problem other than enhanced recoil.
Rifle length gas system in the AR smooths that out for a 5.56/223. The 223's predecessor was after all a varminting cartridge the vaunted triple deuce aka 222.
Varminting cartridges prefer long barrels to throw light weight projectives at very high speeds.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:10 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:10 PM (mGFn3)
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Well, I’m winding down. Thx, weasel. You know how much we appreciate this place.
Good luck to Snowmaggedon folks!
Good luck to Snowmaggedon folks!
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 09:10 PM (Edxq2)
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Ed L., my AR 10 absolutely hates 150 grain ammo by any manufacturer. Much prefers 168, 175.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (Edxq2)
Thanks, RI Red. I'll keep that in mind for the next batch I buy. This is my first step into the realm of .308. The only thing I'm sure of is that I've got more money than sense when it comes to .308 and longer range shooting. I've never shot anything beyond the 300 yards the Army has as its max qualification distance.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
Posted by: RI Red - who is now Somebody! at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (Edxq2)
Thanks, RI Red. I'll keep that in mind for the next batch I buy. This is my first step into the realm of .308. The only thing I'm sure of is that I've got more money than sense when it comes to .308 and longer range shooting. I've never shot anything beyond the 300 yards the Army has as its max qualification distance.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:11 PM (BCwQW)
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Color me surprised that the Dems in the state house didn't have their act together on this. Considering how much effort they put into these bills in the waning days of the Youngkin administration, I thought they would have already figured out exactly what they were going to do. Not that I'm complaining, though.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (BCwQW)
I think the House did not count on the Senate being less radical.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:03 PM (BCwQW)
I think the House did not count on the Senate being less radical.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (NlEaG)
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Cozy Cave update?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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I haven't used that specifically, but I've run some good M-80 ball through my Winchester and it shoots well. Like Weasel said, good for casual plinking.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)
Thanks, RMBS.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)
Thanks, RMBS.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (BCwQW)
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Nite Red. Good luck with the storm!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (mGFn3)
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Having been stationed at Ft. Drum....that's gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Having been stranded at Griffis AFB when the snowstorm buried (literally) our KC-135R, and seeing 9' walls of snow as we drove back through town the next day, it's not for nothing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Having been stranded at Griffis AFB when the snowstorm buried (literally) our KC-135R, and seeing 9' walls of snow as we drove back through town the next day, it's not for nothing.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 09:14 PM (5mWyi)
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I don't store in the cases - so they are extra and taking up that extra space.
Posted by: blaster
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The more expensive gunsocks can work--Browning makes some that are VCI impregnated that silently release anti corrosives over time. Others have teflon impregnation that prevents any retention of moisture in the sock itself.
Posted by: blaster
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The more expensive gunsocks can work--Browning makes some that are VCI impregnated that silently release anti corrosives over time. Others have teflon impregnation that prevents any retention of moisture in the sock itself.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:14 PM (E4rtv)
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Cozy Cave update?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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FSJ has retired to our bed for a long winter's nap. Gertie is on top of a cave but under two blankets with the tip of her nose sticking out!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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FSJ has retired to our bed for a long winter's nap. Gertie is on top of a cave but under two blankets with the tip of her nose sticking out!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:15 PM (mGFn3)
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OK all y'all, 9:18 thank you time.
Thank you!
Appreciate everyone being here tonight and participating and hope to see you next Sunday!
Thank you!
Appreciate everyone being here tonight and participating and hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:18 PM (mGFn3)
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I’m in southern Delaware and we’re due for 12-17”
by tomorrow afternoon, so I’ll be plowing for a while. Our power has flickered several times but hasn’t quit yet…
The wood stove on the hearth is quite comforting.
by tomorrow afternoon, so I’ll be plowing for a while. Our power has flickered several times but hasn’t quit yet…
The wood stove on the hearth is quite comforting.
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 22, 2026 09:19 PM (vt7xw)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:20 PM (BCwQW)
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>>The last prediction I read was 10-14". A "cyclone blizzard." That's a new one on me. I've been in a blizzard before, with thunder and lightning, but not coupled with cyclone winds. That prediction is gusts upwards of 60 m.p.h.
They're talking up 20 inches here and the same wind. They've already closed the bridges. Got a feeling I'm going to lose power at some point.
They're talking up 20 inches here and the same wind. They've already closed the bridges. Got a feeling I'm going to lose power at some point.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:21 PM (viF8m)
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I'm just south of D.C. and the roads are covered with maybe 3/4 of an inch. It coming down fast so it'll be interesting what morning will bring. Sounds like schools are closing tomorrow. If you're along the NE coast, be careful!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:21 PM (mGFn3)
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168 Ed L., my AR 10 absolutely hates 150 grain ammo by any manufacturer. Much prefers 168, 175.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
Posted by: RI Red
Typically the 150's or even lower are simply plinking ammo (or bullets) for the 7.62x51 or even the 30-06. Often flat based bullets, inferior quality in jackets and slugs, etc. You see the same results in WWI and WWII GI ammo--the heavier bullet--M1 Ball or even the M2 Armor Piercing aka black tip often outshot the lighter 150 M2 Ball.
But I have a bunch of American Eagle in other calibers.
Posted by: RI Red
Typically the 150's or even lower are simply plinking ammo (or bullets) for the 7.62x51 or even the 30-06. Often flat based bullets, inferior quality in jackets and slugs, etc. You see the same results in WWI and WWII GI ammo--the heavier bullet--M1 Ball or even the M2 Armor Piercing aka black tip often outshot the lighter 150 M2 Ball.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)
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Maybe 1/4" here in southern, swamp Virginia. And it isn't sticking (so far) to the untreated road in front of my house.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 09:22 PM (Vi8Mp)
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Wish you thanks Weasel and for the rest of folks, have a happy good night and end of the week.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks for being here whig!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:23 PM (mGFn3)
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I'm off th shotgun fixation.
Has anyone had experience with a stock Kit thing like a Flux or Recover for handguns? PCCs and the like are banned in my shitty commie state of IL so a 10mm Glock gen 5 mos in one of these things would be nice. Full stock, rail for a rds, fore grip that includes an extraag holder etc etc.
Has anyone had experience with a stock Kit thing like a Flux or Recover for handguns? PCCs and the like are banned in my shitty commie state of IL so a 10mm Glock gen 5 mos in one of these things would be nice. Full stock, rail for a rds, fore grip that includes an extraag holder etc etc.
Posted by: GigantorX at February 22, 2026 09:25 PM (x8k2o)
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Typically the 150's or even lower are simply plinking ammo (or bullets) for the 7.62x51 or even the 30-06. Often flat based bullets, inferior quality in jackets and slugs, etc. You see the same results in WWI and WWII GI ammo--the heavier bullet--M1 Ball or even the M2 Armor Piercing aka black tip often outshot the lighter 150 M2 Ball.
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)
Thanks, Whig. I plan on fitting my rifle w/ a suppressor too. Will that make any difference in performance that you know of?
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)
Thanks, Whig. I plan on fitting my rifle w/ a suppressor too. Will that make any difference in performance that you know of?
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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New Mexico SB-17, the latest attempt to nullify the 2nd amendment, failed to get out of a House committee thus killing the the latest Santa Fe Communists' wet dream.
This bill would have banned semi-automatic firearms statewide, would have left small police forces without armed officers officers when they are required required to purchase their own semi-Automatic firearms, and required FLLs to harden their buildings like Fort Knox, keep 24x7x365 video records for 2 years, and to report all sales to the New Mexico state government effectively creating a state gun registry. The new FFL requirements most likely would have driven many small dealers out of business, especially the ones run out of their home, because the invasive video taping make no exception for eome-based businesses.
The state senator who sponsored this bill has vowed to bring it up again at the next legislative session cuz she "feels" It is her calling to get guns banned. Meanwhile, the Democrat super majority keeps enacting laws, enforced with help from activist judges, that keep kicking loose criminals with multiple firearms felonies.
An example:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pPP9l3UJU6w
This bill would have banned semi-automatic firearms statewide, would have left small police forces without armed officers officers when they are required required to purchase their own semi-Automatic firearms, and required FLLs to harden their buildings like Fort Knox, keep 24x7x365 video records for 2 years, and to report all sales to the New Mexico state government effectively creating a state gun registry. The new FFL requirements most likely would have driven many small dealers out of business, especially the ones run out of their home, because the invasive video taping make no exception for eome-based businesses.
The state senator who sponsored this bill has vowed to bring it up again at the next legislative session cuz she "feels" It is her calling to get guns banned. Meanwhile, the Democrat super majority keeps enacting laws, enforced with help from activist judges, that keep kicking loose criminals with multiple firearms felonies.
An example:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pPP9l3UJU6w
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at February 22, 2026 09:25 PM (tqpXi)
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Thanks for another great Gub Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:26 PM (Wnv9h)
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They're talking up 20 inches here and the same wind. They've already closed the bridges. Got a feeling I'm going to lose power at some point.
Posted by: JackStraw
Last chance for a beer run.
Posted by: JackStraw
Last chance for a beer run.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:26 PM (Wnv9h)
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You are very welcome, amigo. Pls say hi to mom!
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You are very welcome, amigo. Pls say hi to mom!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:27 PM (mGFn3)
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You are very welcome, amigo. Pls say hi to mom!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:27 PM
Will do!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:27 PM
Will do!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:28 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:29 PM (viF8m)
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Hi All. Just wondering if I'll get a snow day tomorrow.
Posted by: Iris at February 22, 2026 09:29 PM (bOJ2I)
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Thanks, again, Weasel, for the Gun Thread.
Y'all take care and keep all the sensitive bits warm.
Y'all take care and keep all the sensitive bits warm.
Posted by: GWB at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (Fx9pW)
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You are very welcome, amigo. Pls say hi to mom!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:27 PM
The RMBS Mom says hi!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:27 PM
The RMBS Mom says hi!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (Wnv9h)
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You bet, GWB!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (mGFn3)
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Weasel, our critter spent the afternoon in her heated bed on our living room bay window sill watching the snow fall. Every one of these has been fascinated by snow.
Glad to hear your gang remains cozy
Glad to hear your gang remains cozy
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (vt7xw)
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>>Last chance for a beer run.
Way ahead of you.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:29 PM
Adult beverage stocks are adequate.
Way ahead of you.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:29 PM
Adult beverage stocks are adequate.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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Whig, I have not been around, I did hear you were doing ok post surgery which was a relief. Hope you are hanging in.
Meanwhile I just learned the German somewhat equivalent of "flight of fancy" is a word called schnapsidee. As in "liquor induced idea", which I think is amazing and I believe needs to be introduced into the English language immediately. Fuckin schnapsidee.
Meanwhile I just learned the German somewhat equivalent of "flight of fancy" is a word called schnapsidee. As in "liquor induced idea", which I think is amazing and I believe needs to be introduced into the English language immediately. Fuckin schnapsidee.
Posted by: ... at February 22, 2026 09:33 PM (E0p3T)
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I never have much to contribute on the shootin' topic. Mostly I come here for the cinematic gems.
The Giant Claw 1957
imdb.com/title/tt0050432/?ref_=fn_t_1
"Scientists ponder a buzzard--like big bird able to lift a train."
Scientists ponder. Boy, that sounds like an action-packed thriller!
___
BTW, do you think Amelia is exercising good trigger discipline here?
https://bit.ly/4qNoRq8
The Giant Claw 1957
imdb.com/title/tt0050432/?ref_=fn_t_1
"Scientists ponder a buzzard--like big bird able to lift a train."
Scientists ponder. Boy, that sounds like an action-packed thriller!
___
BTW, do you think Amelia is exercising good trigger discipline here?
https://bit.ly/4qNoRq8
Posted by: mindful webworker - we didn't start the fire at February 22, 2026 09:33 PM (oq2IS)
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Has anyone had experience with a stock Kit thing like a Flux or Recover for handguns? PCCs and the like are banned in my shitty commie state of IL so a 10mm Glock gen 5 mos in one of these things would be nice. Full stock, rail for a rds, fore grip that includes an extraag holder etc etc.
Posted by: GigantorX at February 22, 2026 09:25 PM (x8k2o)
I've got a B&T BWC-9 that takes the FCU from a Sig P320. The BWC-9 comes with an Aimpoint Acro, so that checks your red dot box. Unfolded, the BWC-9 does have a full stock. It does not have a forward grip, though. It shoots acceptably well at 20 yards (2" - 3" groups offhand). Two big downsides, though. The FCU has to go on a Form 1 as an SBR (i.e. it's an NFA item). The BWC-9 chassis is expensive (B&T is Swiss - when do the Swiss make anything for cheap?). But chassis itself can be purchased like an accessory because it's NOT a firearm; the FCU is.
Posted by: GigantorX at February 22, 2026 09:25 PM (x8k2o)
I've got a B&T BWC-9 that takes the FCU from a Sig P320. The BWC-9 comes with an Aimpoint Acro, so that checks your red dot box. Unfolded, the BWC-9 does have a full stock. It does not have a forward grip, though. It shoots acceptably well at 20 yards (2" - 3" groups offhand). Two big downsides, though. The FCU has to go on a Form 1 as an SBR (i.e. it's an NFA item). The BWC-9 chassis is expensive (B&T is Swiss - when do the Swiss make anything for cheap?). But chassis itself can be purchased like an accessory because it's NOT a firearm; the FCU is.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:33 PM (BCwQW)
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Glad to hear your gang remains cozy
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (vt7xw)
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Their reaction to snow is funny. When they need to go out, they skid to a stop and do a U turn the minute they see it! Once I make them go out they kind of get used to it, a very little tiny bit.
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 22, 2026 09:30 PM (vt7xw)
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Their reaction to snow is funny. When they need to go out, they skid to a stop and do a U turn the minute they see it! Once I make them go out they kind of get used to it, a very little tiny bit.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:34 PM (mGFn3)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:34 PM (viF8m)
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Pipedream adjacent.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 22, 2026 09:34 PM (OzWW4)
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Hi All. Just wondering if I'll get a snow day tomorrow.
Posted by: Iris
Here in East-Central TN, the kids get snow days if there is even a hint of snow in the forecast. But, to be honest, we've had more days of school closings due to bear sightings than snow days this school year.
Posted by: Iris
Here in East-Central TN, the kids get snow days if there is even a hint of snow in the forecast. But, to be honest, we've had more days of school closings due to bear sightings than snow days this school year.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2026 09:34 PM (cYBz/)
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As long as you have a wood burning or gas fireplace, booze and a campstove, you’re good to go.
Whoohoo!
Whoohoo!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:35 PM (A5RD0)
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I don't have anything to add; but enjoy the thread.
Thanks Weasel.
Thanks Weasel.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 22, 2026 09:35 PM (lpVer)
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@BrandonStraka 12m
President Trump phoned Team USA’s hockey squad after their 2–1 overtime gold medal win over Canada in Milan.
“And by the way, your goalie play. Not bad!…You were all Unbelievable!”
President Trump phoned Team USA’s hockey squad after their 2–1 overtime gold medal win over Canada in Milan.
“And by the way, your goalie play. Not bad!…You were all Unbelievable!”
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2026 09:36 PM (diia5)
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Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 22, 2026 09:35 PM (lpVer)
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My pleasure. Thanks for checking in!
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My pleasure. Thanks for checking in!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:36 PM (mGFn3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2026 09:36 PM (Cqx++)
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The state senator who sponsored this bill has vowed to bring it up again at the next legislative session cuz she "feels" It is her calling to get guns banned. Meanwhile, the Democrat super majority keeps enacting laws, enforced with help from activist judges, that keep kicking loose criminals with multiple firearms felonies.
An example:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pPP9l3UJU6w
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.
With Legislators like that it is not about the guns.
It is about having absolute power of the lives of others.
An example:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pPP9l3UJU6w
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.
With Legislators like that it is not about the guns.
It is about having absolute power of the lives of others.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 09:38 PM (/lPRQ)
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Do any of you fill up your bird feeders with seed ahead of a snow storm?
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:40 PM (mGFn3)
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Thank you Horde and thanks Weasel!
Posted by: Private Snuffy at February 22, 2026 09:41 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Always great to see your name in the grey box, AZ deplorable! Please say hi to your wife from me....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 09:42 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:42 PM (mGFn3)
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BTW, do you think Amelia is exercising good trigger discipline here?
https://bit.ly/4qNoRq8
Posted by: mindful webworker - we didn't start the fire
She does have some serious halter top shoulder straps.
https://bit.ly/4qNoRq8
Posted by: mindful webworker - we didn't start the fire
She does have some serious halter top shoulder straps.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 09:42 PM (/lPRQ)
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Gigantor X's question reminds me that ZEV and Magpul have released the FDP, the commercial version of the FMG-9 prototype first seen at SHOT 2008. MSRP is $1,699. IF a foldable carbine that looks like an non-descript plastic box prior to deployment is your thing, or if you like a "transformer" type firearm, you might want to check this out.
Posted by: Ed L at February 22, 2026 09:43 PM (BCwQW)
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>>Do any of you fill up your bird feeders with seed ahead of a snow storm?
Usually. But that's one thing I forgot today.
Usually. But that's one thing I forgot today.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2026 09:44 PM (viF8m)
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Always great to see your name in the grey box, AZ deplorable! Please say hi to your wife from me....
Posted by: The Grateful
Consider it done!
Posted by: The Grateful
Consider it done!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 22, 2026 09:44 PM (lpVer)
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Last chance for a beer run.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
I made a beef empanada run (4 of them) this morning to the Uruguayan bakery nearby. Does that count?
Always good to have snacks one can heat up in the gas oven.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 22, 2026 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
I made a beef empanada run (4 of them) this morning to the Uruguayan bakery nearby. Does that count?
Always good to have snacks one can heat up in the gas oven.
Posted by: RickZ at February 22, 2026 09:44 PM (gKDq2)
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They have Coors in Colorado.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 22, 2026 09:45 PM (OzWW4)
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Took the 1921 Colt Thompson George Wallace kept in his Gov Mansion out for a slaying of watermelon. Nice piece of history.
Back in the safe after a good cleaning and a quart of oil like a Harley.
Back in the safe after a good cleaning and a quart of oil like a Harley.
Posted by: DBCooper at February 22, 2026 09:47 PM (QJHYB)
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Meanwhile I just learned the German somewhat equivalent of "flight of fancy" is a word called schnapsidee. As in "liquor induced idea"
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I’m sort of partial to “backfiefgesicht” which translates to “punchable face”. I mean, like the Supreme Court justice said when asked to define pornography, “I know it when I see it”
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I’m sort of partial to “backfiefgesicht” which translates to “punchable face”. I mean, like the Supreme Court justice said when asked to define pornography, “I know it when I see it”
Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2026 09:47 PM (9Y5zL)
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:48 PM (mGFn3)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:48 PM (A5RD0)
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Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!
Posted by: DBCooper at February 22, 2026 09:49 PM (QJHYB)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:49 PM (A5RD0)
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The spawn had a local(Texas) match this weekend. Steel challenge, SASP is 4 bays instead of 6. She came in first for women's rimfire pistol and 2nd rimfire pistol optic( beat by a college shooter). She also placed 3rd in ladies rimfire rifle and rimfire rifle optic. 2nd in ladies PCC. She was the only women's center fire pistol optic.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 22, 2026 09:49 PM (VCgbV)
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I’m surprised you aren’t camping out at the farm. I bet it’s lovely.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:48 PM (A5RD0)
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I don't think it's even snowing down there!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:48 PM (A5RD0)
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I don't think it's even snowing down there!
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:49 PM (mGFn3)
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I’m sort of partial to “backfiefgesicht” which translates to “punchable face”. I mean, like the Supreme Court justice said when asked to define pornography, “I know it when I see it”
Posted by: Common Tater
"Tittenhalter" means exactly what you think it means. Even if you flunked HS German.
Posted by: Common Tater
"Tittenhalter" means exactly what you think it means. Even if you flunked HS German.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 22, 2026 09:50 PM (cYBz/)
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I don't think it's even snowing down there!
Posted by: Weasel
Have you seen your bear friend? Or the fox on the trail cam?
Posted by: Weasel
Have you seen your bear friend? Or the fox on the trail cam?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:51 PM (A5RD0)
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Tittenhalter Cuirass.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 22, 2026 09:51 PM (OzWW4)
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:53 PM (mGFn3)
Posted by: DBCooper at February 22, 2026 09:54 PM (QJHYB)
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Have you seen your bear friend? Or the fox on the trail cam?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:51 PM (A5RD0)
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Not lately. A few deer recently but that's it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:51 PM (A5RD0)
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Not lately. A few deer recently but that's it.
Posted by: Weasel at February 22, 2026 09:55 PM (mGFn3)
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As long as you have a wood burning or gas fireplace, booze and a campstove, you’re good to go.
Whoohoo!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:35 PM (A5RD0)
I got a fireplace and 4 cases of beer and 2 bottles of bourbon leftover from the christmas party. There's much food too. I'm stocked.
Whoohoo!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2026 09:35 PM (A5RD0)
I got a fireplace and 4 cases of beer and 2 bottles of bourbon leftover from the christmas party. There's much food too. I'm stocked.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 22, 2026 09:55 PM (snZF9)
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sounds of a local plow are heard and welcomed...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at February 22, 2026 09:58 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 22, 2026 10:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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ONT up.
Posted by: clarence at February 22, 2026 10:02 PM (RU/0c)
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Back in the old-er days, the snow plow guys would stuff a cigarette butt in the federally required back-up beeper to keep the noise level down. Can hear that fucker wake you up from a mile away, even in yer house.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2026 10:02 PM (9Y5zL)
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I'm glad, for now, I live in Texas. Probably die here one day. Like Davy Crockett?
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2026 10:10 PM (LHPAg)
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Allentown PA
5” down so far. Light packing snow. Cleared the driveway so should only have to deal with maybe 8” tomorrow. 🤞
5” down so far. Light packing snow. Cleared the driveway so should only have to deal with maybe 8” tomorrow. 🤞
Posted by: Kevin at February 22, 2026 10:47 PM (Bc40B)
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Had a great time watching the biathlon events. My wife was even getting into the relay and mass start races.
Posted by: Kevin at February 22, 2026 10:50 PM (Bc40B)
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Guns!
Late tho.
Quick gun update, for posterity.
So I bought a Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380) for $150 as soon as I saw the new Kel-Tec PR-3AT. No, I didn't need it. I have a G42 and other .380's but...well, I did it and I am learning things.
Like the recoil is not bad, the gun is cheap but simple and shockingly accurate despite being in possession of the worst sights I've ever seen on a pistol.
However, the pistol is getting constant failure to eject. So I'm gonna have to send it in for service. Probably, but not certainly, needs a new extractor.
Late tho.
Quick gun update, for posterity.
So I bought a Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380) for $150 as soon as I saw the new Kel-Tec PR-3AT. No, I didn't need it. I have a G42 and other .380's but...well, I did it and I am learning things.
Like the recoil is not bad, the gun is cheap but simple and shockingly accurate despite being in possession of the worst sights I've ever seen on a pistol.
However, the pistol is getting constant failure to eject. So I'm gonna have to send it in for service. Probably, but not certainly, needs a new extractor.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 22, 2026 11:26 PM (xcxpd)
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