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Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 2/14/2026

Park Chan-wook



In America, Park Chan-wook will probably never be known for anything other than Oldboy. He had made four films previously in Korea (the first two he wishes he’d never made, but they do exist, think of how much Kubrick tried to suppress and even destroy Fear and Desire), but it was his third, Joint Security Area that established his career as a filmmaker in Korea. It was hugely successful and essentially gave him a blank check to do whatever he wanted.

What he did was called the Vengeance Trilogy, three disconnected films all dealing with central characters and their efforts at vengeance. Oldboy is the second of the three (surrounded by Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance), and it came about in the early 2000s, right at the time websites like Ain’t It Cool News were still somewhat relevant. The burgeoning American cinema fans (mostly male and obsessed with genre) latched onto it and gave it oxygen, helped even more by the fact that Quentin Tarantino was a big fan who helped award it the Grand Prix award at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival where he was jury president.

It’s a violent, Greek-inspired tale of bloody vengeance from a man who was mysteriously placed in a secret, private prison for 15 years and then given a few days to figure out why, and it captured the imaginations of the film fan community at the time.

And...Park has kind of fallen off the American cineaste map since. There was a blip with The Handmaiden, but movies like Decision to Leave, his television work like The Little Drummer Girl or The Sympathizer get mostly ignored, drowned out in favor of more maintstream American movies. And that’s going to create a deeply warped view of who Park Chan-wook is as a filmmaker.

Content


Before getting to how he tells his stories, what are they? Well, they're mostly intersections of romance (often in a style that could be called baroque) mixed with violence. Both need to be there. They don't exist in isolation. They are interrelated.

From the sexual relationship between the kidnappers in Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance that goes wrong (violently) to the more mature spousal romance between Man-su and his wife in No Other Choice, which the character must preserve through violence, these films see romance usually enhanced through the application of violence.

How that operates is usually the violence is necessary to keep the relationships going. The killing of those between Oh Sae-du and his goal in Oldboy which is also how he connects with Mi-do. The investigation of Seo-rae's husband's death which brings her together with the policeman Hae-jun in Decision to Leave. The killing of a bully in Stoker that brings India and her uncle Charlie together (this is less overtly romantic). And then there's there are the two peaks of the idea, Thirst, the story of the Catholic Priest Sang-hyun who becomes a vampire because of a blood transfusion and finds materialistic pleasures with Tae-ju, wife of a friend, and then the main characters in The Handmaiden, the Japanese lady Izumi and the Korean handmaiden Sook-hee who have to overcome Izumi's overbearing uncle (by marriage) who desires her and the fraudulent Count Fujiwara to end up together.

In all of these stories, they must commit violence, and the committing of violence is what strengthens the relationships. And they don't have to be necessarily romantic in nature. I did lump Stoker in with that group because it exists on a borderline (it's just completely unconsummated), but Joint Security Area is all about platonic friendship between men and the violence that both deepens their bonds and actually ends up driving them apart at the same time. It's the violence that enhances things, and it's key to the point of all of his films.

There are other variations, though, like with Lady Vengeance where the necessity of violence actually drives the titular character away from her daughter (the Vengeance Trilogy's contemplation on the different aspects of vengeance is actually quite interesting as a package).

It's the violence that brings together, that keeps together, and that even enhances the romance, and the violence is often justified. The Vengeance Trilogy is named thusly because most of the violence is vengeance, in response to previous wrongdoing. However, this can be where the dark comedy pops in, but that's more of a stylistic question. So…

Style


I started this run having seen most of his works already. I hadn't seen the first two he's disowned (The Moon is-The Sun's Dream and Trio), the romantic comedy I'm a Cyborg but That's Okay, or his most recent, No Other Choice. So, upon watching everything in order, I already knew the ebbs and flows of Park's filmmaking style. What struck me quite soon after starting up Oldboy once more was that it's remarkably different in feel from the rest of his body of work.

There's an activity to Oldboy, to how Park presents action in the frame, and an element of stuffing the narrative to the brim with activity that his other films don't have. The rest (save, perhaps, I'm a Cyborg) are far more spare, telling simpler stories in more measured tones (more measured, not completely measured). Even immediately around Oldboy, the two other Vengeance movies, things just feel quieter, less like Park is barely controlling chaos and more like he's precisely moving pieces around a chessboard.

I contrast that to what is probably his most diametrically opposite film, Decision to Leave, an incredibly restrained tale of passion and murder that sees almost no direct violence, and even then when it does show its few moments (or the results of off-screen violence), Park keeps the camera very steady and, within motion, smooth.

When thinking about the rest of his work, it trends much more towards the filmmaking style of Decision to Leave rather than Oldboy. The smooth crane moves of Thirst, the implied violence of The Handmaiden, and the restrained denouement of No Other Choice just fit the model of filmmaking that Decision to Leave represents better than Oldboy.

The Point


Do you know how people compare every Martin Scorsese movie to Goodfellas? How people say that Scorsese just keeps trying to replicate his early 90s gangster movie? Even though the movies in that vein represent less than a fourth of his entire body of work? If you expect every Martin Scorsese movie to be Goodfellas, will you accept, as a viewer, something so radically different like The Age of Innocence, Kundun, Silence, or The Irishman? Most people seem to have really hard times accepting Scorsese working in spheres that aren't exclusively like Goodfellas.

And I fear that's happening with Park. Oldboy will probably always be his best known movie (it's not his most successful at the box office, that would be No Other Choice, but the numbers are small and insignificant overall in the US), but if you hear about the extreme violence, the ending's extremes, or the stuffed nature of the film and recoil from it, are you willing to check out any of the others? If all of that appeals to you, but you find out that Thirst is significantly quieter and less outwardly violent, will that push you away?

Proper representation of an artist is important, I think. That's not always their best known work. Fritz Lang is another example where the most famous movie he made (Metropolis) is weirdly unrepresentative of his whole body of work (go with The Testament of Doctor Mabuse or Die Nibelungen: Kriemheld's Revenge or even Western Union for better examples). The right representative example not only exemplifies any intentional thematic concerns but also the style in which they tell stories, and sometimes just the kinds of stories themselves.

All of Park's movies are combinations of romance and violence. How restrained is a variable. On the one end would be Decision to Leave, very restrained, and on the other would be The Handmaiden, which is very explicit (at least in regard to the sex). How frank with the romance (one can say relationships if applied to Joint Security Area which has no romance) and the violence creates this tapestry where none of Park's films feel like repetitions, but they are all still obviously made by the same accomplished filmmaker. A proper foundation from which to start understanding him could help new audiences find their way through a filmmaker who may interest them, if they're not guided astray on accident.

That's not to say that Park is for everyone. The foreign nature of his storytelling (not to mention the actual foreign language) represents a barrier for many people even before getting to the subject matter. However, I just feel like his most famous film could end up either a barrier itself or offer up a false expectation of what else is to come from him. It's less an academic exercise about properly cataloging things and more about setting a stage properly.
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Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Wuthering Heights

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

Joint Security Area (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "Assured, accomplished, clear-eyed in unwinding a mystery through point of view, and sometimes quite beautiful to simply look at (there's a great scene in the snow as two squads face each other), all while being surprisingly touching, Joint Security Area is the announcement that Park has really arrived this time after a couple of false starts." [Personal Collection]

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (Rating 3/4) Full Review "It has a surprising emotional element to it as motives fray in the face of unforeseen events, and the ironic ending fits surprisingly well, offering a payoff to what felt like a random line from earlier." [YouTube]

Oldboy (Rating 4/4) Full Review "This is peak Park Chan-wook. It's a noticeable step up from everything he's made so far, the marriage of material and Park's filmmaking style. That combination of baroque romance, Greek tragedy, and blackly comic situational awareness that creates this tragic but endlessly entertaining package." [Personal Collection]

Lady Vengeance (Rating 3/4) Full Review "It does feel like something of a step back, a decision late made by a less assured filmmaker than the one who made his last movie, but overall, Park ends the Vengeance Trilogy on a high note." [Kanopy]

Thirst (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "A film with a moral question at its centered, manifested by a character, who has to go through darkly comic events in a genre setting with excellently composed shots from beginning to end? Yes, this is why I love Park Chan-wook so much." [Personal Collection]

Stoker (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "And the movie mostly exists on vibes. They're kind of terrifying, horrifying vibes that Park manages with cool formalism to ease the audience into, but this is the story of the creation of a monster in the end." [Personal Collection]

The Handmaiden (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "This is a notch or so below it because of the self-indulgence, I think, but it's still a demonstration that Park really knows how to craft a character-based story for film with great looking visuals all with that extra oomph of edging into the extreme." [Amazon Prime]

Decision to Leave (Rating 4/4) Full Review "However, the investment over time ends up worthwhile to find what, I think, is Park's most deeply felt and most wonderfully made film. Is this his masterpiece? Well, hopefully he'll work for decades more and make even more great films, but for now-I think this may be it." [Personal Collection]

No Other Choice (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "I suspect that this film is going to grow on me with time." [Theater]

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1 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2026 07:57 PM (Ia/+0)

2 As I mentioned previously, it is to my great and everlasting shame that I dod not destroy the masters and all of the prints to Fahrenheit 9/11 when I had the opportunity and it won the Palm D’or instead of OldBoy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 14, 2026 07:58 PM (XV/Pl)

3 I don't think ever saw one of these

Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2026 07:58 PM (Ia/+0)

4 "Joint Security Area," "Decision to Leave" added to my list, thanks! Sorry to say, "Oldboy" didn't trip my trigger, but that does not deter me from trying more.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:01 PM (N8ZBc)

5 Hard to pick my favorite vengeance movie but
the four that immediately come to mind are

Mr Majestyk
John Wick
The Count of Monte Cristo
Man on Fire

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:02 PM (cwGMH)

6 The Crow is a great vengeance film.

Easily the best soundtrack of any vengeance film, that’s for sure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 14, 2026 08:05 PM (XV/Pl)

7 I don't have any movie reviews this week (what a relief to many!) but I'm just going to leave this here:

"Barry" (2018-2023) TV series, 32 half-hour eps. I like it better than I expected. Great cast that mostly out-acts Hader, who relies on the 'bug-eyed uncomprehending stare' pose far too often. (Bill: #dobetter, I know you can.) Combines bathos, pathos and violence in quirky, surprising ways, and is salted with plenty of Fargo-esque funny villains. I found many of the acting tips credible and useful, too. Lovely Jessy Hodges has junk in the trunk, and she knows how to wear it perfectly.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:05 PM (N8ZBc)

8 "Hard to pick my favorite vengeance movie"

"Chato's Land" first to come to mind.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:06 PM (N8ZBc)

9 Apologies for the lateness. Was playing a board game with family. Lost track of time.

Posted by: TJM's phone at February 14, 2026 08:06 PM (GBKbO)

10 I forgot about Payback which is more fun though than serious.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:06 PM (cwGMH)

11 I saw a print ad for the new Wuthering Heights film on a bus stop somewhere that said, it was "going to be a classic."
you can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: vivi at February 14, 2026 08:07 PM (KruEU)

12 Interesting piece about a director I've never heard of. I'll have to watch for his movies now.

Thanks for the education, TJM.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 14, 2026 08:07 PM (JkO4W)

13 Obviously Kill Bill is a primo vengeance film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 14, 2026 08:08 PM (XV/Pl)

14 A close relative to the vengeance movie is the 'The worm turns' movie. One favorite is "Wolf" with Jack Nicholson at his malevolent best.

Posted by: vivi at February 14, 2026 08:10 PM (KruEU)

15 The scene in Oldboy where he escapes captivity after 15 years and visits a restaurant, orders and eats a live octopus...*shudders*. Like Bone Tomahawk.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:11 PM (cxFcK)

16 My favorite girl power vengeance movie is Red Sparrow.

I also thought Peppermint was pretty good since I thought any female John Wick movie would be too silly. They actually did a decent job to let you suspend disbelief.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:11 PM (cwGMH)

17 Agree on The Count of Monte Cristo being a great revenge story. It has a meticulous setup and a satisfying payoff.

Shawshank Redemption probably comes under the same genre, at least from Andy's perspective. Even though the story was focused on Red.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 14, 2026 08:11 PM (JkO4W)

18 "Bone Tomahawk" Recommended.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:12 PM (N8ZBc)

19 I watched the Naked Gun remake on Prime. I expected to hate it but it was pretty good and very true to the original.

Who knew Liam could do comedy?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:12 PM (cxFcK)

20 The last half of Brawl on Cell Block 99 was a fantastic revenge movie. The first half was a fantastic set up.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:13 PM (cwGMH)

21 "Peppermint"

My little beef was the absurd notion that one could park a van full of heavy weapons in a slum, by a homeless camp, and come back hours later to find the van unmolested.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:14 PM (N8ZBc)

22 Gladiator is a revenge film, may be the only revenge film to win an Oscar for best picture.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 14, 2026 08:14 PM (XV/Pl)

23 I think Bone Tomahawk, Brawl on Cell Block 99, and Dragged Across Concrete were all made by the same guy. I recommend the first only.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:16 PM (N8ZBc)

24 I've watched a bunch of Korean movies. Chinese too. And one thing I can say is they both really HATE the Japanese.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:17 PM (cxFcK)

25 @19

>>Who knew Liam could do comedy?

Lesley Nielsen was not a comedic actor for most of his career, but after Airplane.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 14, 2026 08:17 PM (XV/Pl)

26 Man on Fire.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 08:17 PM (0KSrI)

27 My little beef was the absurd notion that one could park a van full of heavy weapons in a slum, by a homeless camp, and come back hours later to find the van unmolested.
Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:14 PM (N8ZB

Agree but I could overlook it . I just made assumption there was a whole other story how that was made possible.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:18 PM (cwGMH)

28 "And one thing I can say is they both really HATE the Japanese."

It's not hard to figure out why. No love lost with Russia either.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:18 PM (N8ZBc)

29 I recommend The Missing over Bone Tomahawk.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:19 PM (cwGMH)

30 29 "The Missing" added to my list, thanks!

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:20 PM (N8ZBc)

31 Last night, I was flipping around on the TV, when I noticed that "Decision to Leave" was streaming on HULU. I haven't seen it yet, and TJM is currently flogging it, serendipity, I thought I'd watch it.

DtL is a very well-directed, very well-acted, very tightly scripted, but...very Korean movie. And so because of that, whether or not you buy into the action and finale depends on if the motivations of the characters seem real or reasonable to you.

This movie struck me almost from the get-go as Park Chan-Wook's version of Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo". Not the same story, but with elements from the same sort of neighborhood, a sort of highly romantic mystery surrounding a detective who's obsessed with a mysterious woman who in this case may have murdered her husband.

At times, I got the feeling that although all the actors were great that they were playing "concepts" or archetypes more than flesh and blood characters. Not a student of Korean mythology or whatever so I could be wrong about this.

I wish the lively and entrancing Mrs naturalfake hadn't fallen asleep during it, cuz DtL feels like a 1950s "woman's movie", and I wanted her opinion.

Anyway, check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 14, 2026 08:21 PM (iJfKG)

32
"Oldboy" is a great movie. No doubt. Shocking even.

But, I believe "Lady Vengeance" is Park Chan-Wook's best movie.

To a certain extent PCW's movie tend to have static characters. But, there's real character growth and change in this movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 14, 2026 08:28 PM (iJfKG)

33 Revenge films. Lots of those to pick from. The Crow, already mentioned, is fantastic. Great soundtrack! Once Upon A Time in the West is a favorite of mine. Get Carter (1971). Michael Caine was a cold, brutal, MF'r in that one.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 14, 2026 08:28 PM (AdHga)

34 The elegant and delightful Mrs naturalfake wanted to see "Melania", so off we went to the movies.

I had no interest in it but I really couldn't say no after dragging her to the turfiest that was "Iron Lung".

Anywho-

I actually enjoyed it. As a guy, I never really thought about all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes making the dinners, and White House and the Inauguration look so good.

All that requires someone to organize all that, etc, etc and that was Melania.

I definitely recommend it for the Ladies. And possibly the morons depending on your interest level.

I think "Melania" also explains indirectly why the Biden White House, etc always looked like the combination of a dog's breakfast and a hobo carnival.

Dr Fishnets brought her sense of style to those proceedings.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 14, 2026 08:29 PM (iJfKG)

35 You can find all the 'good' parts of The Handmaiden on,,uh,,certain websites that won't be named here. Not that I would know anything about it......

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 14, 2026 08:30 PM (AdHga)

36 Sleepers, not the woody one, the one with the kids in juvenile jail, has an intense revenge scene.

Posted by: davidt at February 14, 2026 08:31 PM (Q+gd/)

37 davidt, oh yes.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 08:32 PM (0KSrI)

38 Yeah his collaborations with seth mcfarlane starting animated then moving to a milliom ways to die in the west (,i think seth is co producer in this)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:33 PM (bXbFr)

39 The Denzel "Man on Fire" is a fun watch; I've seen it several times. The original "Man on Fire" has its charms too, like Joe Pesci belting out Johhny B Good on acoustic guitar.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:34 PM (N8ZBc)

40 Watching "Sicario" at the moment

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 08:35 PM (0KSrI)

41 'seth mcfarlane' Multi-talented guy. Brilliant voice actor. I have a couple of his crooner albums.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:36 PM (N8ZBc)

42
turfiest = turdfest

Thx, AC.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 14, 2026 08:36 PM (iJfKG)

43 "Sicario" recommended, as well as "Sicario 2," and if Sheridan doesn't do a Sicario 3 soon, I'm sending cartel hitmen after him.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:37 PM (N8ZBc)

44 I should be only watching the inside of my eyelids by now
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2026 08:38 PM (Ia/+0)

45 Guys, I don't think we can joke about AOC being retarded anymore. After watching her in Munich, I think she is actually retarded.

Anyway, I watched Sisu again. It really doesn't get old. Not sure it's a revenge movie but it's fun.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:38 PM (cxFcK)

46 JSA was a damn good movie. Saw it...in the ROK of all places. On my DVD player in my dorm on Osan one evening.

(I also heartily recommend Tae Guk Gi. The Korean War told from the Korean perspective. Bloody awesome. One of my top war movies, ever.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at February 14, 2026 08:38 PM (hJH5n)

47 Yeah scott glenn doesnt really capture the character as well

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:39 PM (bXbFr)

48 gp, I haven't seen 2 yet. Is it worth buying the DVD?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 08:39 PM (0KSrI)

49 "Tae Guk Gi" added to my list, thanks!

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:39 PM (N8ZBc)

50 Looked in at Legalinsurrection.com and a article on Melania is newly posted.

Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2026 08:40 PM (Ia/+0)

51 Well hes scheduled to take over the bond franchize so it mighg be a while

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:40 PM (bXbFr)

52 "gp, I haven't seen 2 yet. Is it worth buying the DVD?"

No movie is worth paying for IMHO, but if you purchase it, I don't see any reason why you would not like it.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:41 PM (N8ZBc)

53 24 I've watched a bunch of Korean movies. Chinese too. And one thing I can say is they both really HATE the Japanese.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:17 PM (cxFcK)

Wait til you visit the ROK's Korea Independence Hall. You will FEEL the hatred for the Japanese there. Though given how the Japanese conducted themselves, 1910-1945 there, I can't say I blame them.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at February 14, 2026 08:41 PM (hJH5n)

54 Anyway, I watched Sisu again. It really doesn't get old. Not sure it's a revenge movie but it's fun.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:38 PM (cxFcK)

Saw it in a Lubbock theater. I had a blast!

Posted by: Cow Demon at February 14, 2026 08:42 PM (hJH5n)

55 Though given how the Japanese conducted themselves, 1910-1945 there, I can't say I blame them.)
Posted by: Cow Demon

Saw a funny meme today that had the Italian, Japanese and German (upcoming) leaders with the line: The Axis is back together . This time with Girl Boss power.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:44 PM (cxFcK)

56 I definitely recommend it for the Ladies. And possibly the morons depending on your interest level.

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I haven't seen Melania but I have enjoyed seeing The Media work themselves into an absolute froth in their hating of it. The savage reviews (one by a guy who admitted he never actually saw it) and the breathless way it's "massive" second-weekend drop was reported show that this thing has really hit a TDS nerve.

They can't help revealing too much of themselves and shredding whatever tiny bit of cred they still have outside their bubble.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 14, 2026 08:45 PM (nWPIJ)

57 The girl vampire on svengoolie reminds dracula premiered on valentines day 1931

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:47 PM (bXbFr)

58 Yes their heads blew up like scanners

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:48 PM (bXbFr)

59 Ain't it cool. There's a blast from the past. I remember tooling around on Netscape looking for episode synopsis for shows I was following.

Twas a simpler time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 14, 2026 08:49 PM (zZu0s)

60 Guys, I don't think we can joke about AOC being retarded anymore. After watching her in Munich, I think she is actually retarded.

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She's smart! Not like everybody says… like dumb. She's smart and she want respect!

Mehdi Hasan
@mehdirhasan
It amuses me that MAGA think their attack line on AOC going forward can be 'she's just a bartender' or she's 'dumb' when I can't think of a single MAGA congressman who could speak like this, for two minutes, on this topic, at an international forum like Munich. Not one.

Bonus! The NYT tries to minimize the damage.

https://is.gd/oIezdg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 14, 2026 08:50 PM (J+Psw)

61 Yeah, but Japan has a chance though to fulfill the redemption AND weary past gunfighter tropes. Put it to them that way.


Cmon, Japan. We need you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 14, 2026 08:51 PM (zZu0s)

62 Oh wait, one movie I bought on DVD was worth it: "The Gospel of John" (2014). This is one in a Gospel Quadrilogy by David Batty made at the same time with the same cast. Well cast and acted, true to Scripture, you choose NIV or KJV voiceover. Highly recommended.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:51 PM (N8ZBc)

63 I actually enjoyed it. As a guy, I never really thought about all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes making the dinners, and White House and the Inauguration look so good.

All that requires someone to organize all that, etc, etc and that was Melania.

I definitely recommend it for the Ladies. And possibly the morons depending on your interest level.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 14, 2026 08:29 PM (iJfKG)


Went to see Melania this week with a couple of friends. It was well done and very enjoyable. I do see it as being geared more towards women. Hubby wouldn't have enjoyed it. As an 'ette, i will say it is nice to have conservative lady friends to go have a MAGA day.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 08:51 PM (xDN0i)

64 I need to rent sisu.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 14, 2026 08:52 PM (zZu0s)

65 When I first saw AOC, I said to myself 'she has a chance at being POTUS' someday. I still think so. Stupidity is no bar to the Presidency.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:52 PM (N8ZBc)

66 " This looks like vengeance "
"After 400 years of brutal subjugation..."

Exodus, Gods and Kings is a pretty good revenge movie

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 08:53 PM (0KSrI)

67 Mehdi Hasan
@mehdirhasan
It amuses me that MAGA think their attack line on AOC going forward can be 'she's just a bartender' or she's 'dumb' when I can't think of a single MAGA congressman who could speak like this, for two minutes, on this topic, at an international forum like Munich. Not one

Yeah, I can't think of a "MAGA Comgressman" who is evil, hate-filled, Marxist, driven by rage, envy, hatred, and resentment. Maybe if more people ditched such things the world would become a better place.

Posted by: Cow Demon at February 14, 2026 08:54 PM (hJH5n)

68 Stupidity is no bar to the Presidency.
Posted by: gp

Now that she's running, she'll be running for the rest of her life. Wretched Gretchen made of fool of herself too.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:54 PM (cxFcK)

69 Stupidity is no bar to the Presidency.

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That principle is settled. Biden at his best was never more than a grifting mediocre piece of shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 14, 2026 08:54 PM (nWPIJ)

70 The girl vampire on svengoolie reminds dracula premiered on valentines day 1931
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

Fun fact. Minimalist composer Phillip Glass composed a soundtrack to the 1931 film in 1991.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 14, 2026 08:55 PM (J+Psw)

71 That principle is settled. Biden at his best was never more than a grifting mediocre piece of shit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 14, 2026 08:54 PM (nWPIJ)

Biden was Bill Paxton in True Lies- always. He even had the 'vette.

You know he repeated rhe line 'the Vette get em wet.' He is exactly the type.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 14, 2026 08:56 PM (zZu0s)

72 Also, why is Hilary in Munich? Weird. Does she think she has a shot this time around?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 08:57 PM (cxFcK)

73 Another Korean movie I rather enjoyed was "Attack The Gas Station". I don't know if it would be anyone's cup of tea here. But it is a story of four young guys who take over a gas station and begin taking hostages. Hilarity ensues. It is a comedy/satire of late 1990s ROK.

Posted by: Cow Demon at February 14, 2026 08:57 PM (hJH5n)

74 Mehdi Hasan
@mehdirhasan
It amuses me that MAGA think their attack line on AOC going forward can be 'she's just a bartender' or she's 'dumb' when I can't think of a single MAGA congressman who could speak like this, for two minutes, on this topic, at an international forum like Munich. Not one

Democrat women candidates love word salads. Tossed salads. They'll toss your salad. Whatever. They are evil and venal.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 08:58 PM (xDN0i)

75 Looking for the blood bank

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 14, 2026 08:58 PM (bXbFr)

76 "I need to rent sisu."

It's worth the watch, but I don't have it on continuous loop like some people I know IRL.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:59 PM (N8ZBc)

77 I need to rent sisu.

There's a sequel out but in order to watch I'd have to buy yet another platform. I'll wait.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 09:00 PM (cxFcK)

78 It's worth the watch, but I don't have it on continuous loop like some people I know IRL.
Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:59 PM (N8ZBc)

That sounds unhealthy.

Although, I do remember rewatching John Wick a lot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 14, 2026 09:01 PM (zZu0s)

79 Vengeance?
> _ Unforgiven

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 14, 2026 09:03 PM (y79kU)

80
Mehdi Hasan
@mehdirhasan
It amuses me that MAGA think their attack line on AOC going forward can be 'she's just a bartender' or she's 'dumb' when I can't think of a single MAGA congressman who could speak like this, for two minutes, on this topic, at an international forum like Munich. Not one
===============

Not one MAGA who could speak like this? I hope not one WOULD. Certainly, none SHOULD.

Just insane that anyone thinks that word salad was profound.

The antidote is Rubio, who apparently got some sort of wildly enthusiastic response.

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=yOjBJ89aeXA&t=7s

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 09:03 PM (n7rxJ)

81 Aetius, I re-watch John Wick 1-4 and the three Equalizer movies alot.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 09:03 PM (0KSrI)

82 It really wasn’t a vengeance movie even though the title was Vengeance but the movie directed and starred in by BJ Novak was really good imo .

And I don’t know if he was trying to make fun of West Texas or not but I can tell you Texans didn’t care . Kind of like calling a redneck a redneck.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 09:04 PM (cwGMH)

83 need to rent sisu."

It's worth the watch, but I don't have it on continuous loop like some people I know IRL.
Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 08:59 PM (N8ZBc)

I couldn’t make it past when he set himself on fire.

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 09:05 PM (cwGMH)

84 The antidote is Rubio, who apparently got some sort of wildly enthusiastic response.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Honestly, the best speech with a purpose I've heard from any American pol. The entire thing is worth listening to. Hilary hated it.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 14, 2026 09:05 PM (cxFcK)

85
Vengeance?
> _ Unforgiven
Posted by: Braenyard

============

OooOO00oohhh, Unforgiven is one of the best movies ever about revenge itself. By the end of the movie, revenge has run away with everyone's reason and original intents and created chaos.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 09:06 PM (n7rxJ)

86 >Democrat women candidates love word salads. Tossed salads. They'll toss your salad. Whatever. They are evil and venal.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 08:58 PM (xDN0i)

Hasan is a stone cold retard. I'm amazed he can even sound recognizable words through his piehole. AOC didn't exactly cover herself in glory...sure, accuse Israel of genocide...in Germany. What?! And her word salad? Kamala weeps.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at February 14, 2026 09:07 PM (GTqXr)

87 Munich. Not one.

Bonus! The NYT tries to minimize the damage.

https://is.gd/oIezdg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn
---

There's no sound.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 14, 2026 09:07 PM (y79kU)

88 To me, The Equalizer series can be reduced to its YT supercuts of all the action scenes. The remainder is snoozerville.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 09:09 PM (N8ZBc)

89 There's no sound.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 14, 2026 09:07 PM (y79kU)

In Germany, no one can hear you scream.

Posted by: Guy with Monocle, dueling scared and Prussian accent at February 14, 2026 09:09 PM (zZu0s)

90 gp - following up from the hobby thread, my email is pablodoregon at Gmail dot com. I can't remember if we previously traded info....I have a couple of other ham morons in my contacts.

Posted by: PabloD at February 14, 2026 09:10 PM (3VXNH)

91 Politicians, especially Democrats, simply spew buzz-words and catch-phrases which their base are conditioned to respond to. There's no logic or reason or intelligence to what they do, it's just stimulus/response.

Posted by: davidt at February 14, 2026 09:10 PM (Q+gd/)

92 >OooOO00oohhh, Unforgiven is one of the best movies ever about revenge itself. By the end of the movie, revenge has run away with everyone's reason and original intents and created chaos.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 09:06 PM (n7rxJ)

"All right, I'm coming out. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna shoot him. Any sumbitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, but I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down."

"You better bury Ned right!... Better not cut up, nor otherwise harm no whores... or I'll come back and kill every one of you sons of bitches."

Fantastic dialog! William Munny is the ultimate anti-hero.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at February 14, 2026 09:11 PM (GTqXr)

93
Hilary hated it.
Posted by: Blutarski

=============

I was thinking the same thing!!! That Secretary of State doll with her stupid McDonald's Happy Meal buzzer and the Benghazi disaster and her gadget-girl on Monday and her "Two email accounts are HARD!" Barbie on Tuesday, who uttered nary a word that anyone ever applauded or remembered. Obama giving her Sec State as her consolation prize and then she couldn't parlay her service in a 2-term presidency that was worshipped by the press and pop culture into a presidential victory.

I think she knows she could have done better, but she was reduced by the Democrat men in her life: Bill, then Barry.

She must be fuming as she sees someone who works up to and beyond the potential of that position.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 09:11 PM (n7rxJ)

94 90 Thanks! I'll send you an email tonite to confirm.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 09:12 PM (N8ZBc)

95 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 09:03 PM (n7rxJ)

Blonde, Rubio's speech made me cry. It was well done. I don't think Europe can be saved without great pain on their part. And I don't think they can. That makes me sad.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 09:12 PM (xDN0i)

96 Tasty little tidbit in Unforgiven... Both Eastwood's and Hackman's characters have the same name, but Eastwood's is money while Hackman's is small.

Posted by: davidt at February 14, 2026 09:13 PM (Q+gd/)

97 Death Wish with Charles Bronson (forget the remakes and sequels) was no slouch as a revenge movie either.

Umpteen jillion movies I should get to in my watch list, so what did I do this week? Binged on some old episodes of I Spy. Culp & Cosby were up there with the best of 60s tv.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at February 14, 2026 09:15 PM (q3u5l)

98 ============

OooOO00oohhh, Unforgiven is one of the best movies ever about revenge itself. By the end of the movie, revenge has run away with everyone's reason and original intents and created chaos.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
---

Interesting. I agree with everything except to say ...created sobriety.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 14, 2026 09:15 PM (y79kU)

99 "Umpteen jillion movies I should get to in my watch list, so what did I do this week?"

I hear you. This week I binged "Barry" and watched bodycam and interrogation vids.

To watch a movie on my watchlist, I have to be ready to think hard, and pay proper due attention to it. Not something I do when feeling lazy or craving distraction.

Posted by: gp at February 14, 2026 09:19 PM (N8ZBc)

100 If we're talking revenge flicks. I've always enjoyed "Léon: The Professional".. I've always been a fan of unassuming actors, and Jean Reno fits that build perfectly. I seem to recall that it was, also, one of Natalie Portman's first film roles. Gary Oldman's in there too.

Posted by: Orson at February 14, 2026 09:23 PM (dIske)

101 Just watched the Terry Gilliam videos earlier today. Think I'll have to skip (checks title) Itchykoo Park.

Noting that, unlike most movie threads and videos, I am motivated to watch and re-watch some Gilliam flicks.

https://youtu.be/fayL1WTR1Go

Posted by: mindful webworker - filmed in 16mm at 24fps at February 14, 2026 09:23 PM (6hyzx)

102 Revenge? C'mon man. I just watched "The Godfather" last night.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at February 14, 2026 09:25 PM (qFwJc)

103 Have any of you seen "Unthinkable " with Samuel Jackson and Martin Sheen?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 09:27 PM (0KSrI)

104 I liked the Professional. Or Leon the Profesional. Natalie Portman was 12 or so when that movie was made. I recall there was outrage because she smoked in the movie. Quelle horreur!

Gary Oldman was sleazy 90s Gary Oldman in the film. Yum.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 09:30 PM (xDN0i)

105 >>>Noting that, unlike most movie threads and videos, I am motivated to watch and re-watch some Gilliam flicks.

I agree with that when in comes to 12 Monkeys.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 14, 2026 09:33 PM (syz1S)

106 Any one mention Point Blank with Lee Marvin

Posted by: Javems at February 14, 2026 09:34 PM (rv18a)

107 I miss Paxton. I'll not miss Joe Biden.
(Hunter, I dunno. Hunter strikes me as someone who knows what he is. The difference between Joe and Hunter is the difference between a demon and the demon-possessed)

Posted by: gKWVE at February 14, 2026 09:41 PM (gKWVE)

108 Any one mention Point Blank with Lee Marvin

Posted by: Javems at February 14, 2026 09:34 PM (rv18a)

Haven't seen but it looks good, thanks! Lee Marvin.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at February 14, 2026 09:44 PM (xDN0i)

109 Rob Roy has such a good ending.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 14, 2026 09:44 PM (0KSrI)

110 5 Hard to pick my favorite vengeance movie but
the four that immediately come to mind are

Mr Majestyk
John Wick
The Count of Monte Cristo
Man on Fire

Posted by: Opinion fact at February 14, 2026 08:02 PM (cwGMH)
Add Payback with Mel Gibson.

Posted by: Eromero at February 14, 2026 09:53 PM (LHPAg)

111 I am...reserving full comment until I get finished with all his work.

But I will say Park is a stunning visual storyteller, drawn to dark subjects, perversion and some black humor.

WELL worth checking out if you love movies.

If you don't like to read your movies, Stoker and Little Drummer Girl are both in English.

I'm very, very glad TJM decided to do this series.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 14, 2026 09:57 PM (xcxpd)

112
I don't think Europe can be saved without great pain on their part. And I don't think they can. That makes me sad.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary

==============

I begin to think they can't, short of war. That makes me sad.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 10:00 PM (n7rxJ)

113 Payback.

"Stop it, I'm getting misty."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at February 14, 2026 10:00 PM (/HDaX)

114 >>>If you don't like to read your movies, Stoker and Little Drummer Girl are both in English.

The Oldboy release also includes an English dub track.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 14, 2026 10:02 PM (syz1S)

115 114 >>>If you don't like to read your movies, Stoker and Little Drummer Girl are both in English.

The Oldboy release also includes an English dub track.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 14, 2026 10:02 PM (syz1S)

Good point.

I don't much like dubs but yes.

I know TJM says Park isn't for everyone. And he does deal with some seriously transgressive subjects, but I disagree that he has some sort of barrier in his storytelling. He is very Western-accessible, unlike a lot of Japanese or Chinese cinema.

And my God, can he lens a movie! Beautiful in when its also horrible.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 14, 2026 10:04 PM (xcxpd)

116
created sobriety.



Posted by: Braenyard

===============

It's been years since I saw it, but I remember the final (?) scene with Ed Munny on a rainy, muddy night, shooting up the town and yelling "I'll shoot every one of you sons of bitches and then I'll shoot--!" I can't remember that tantrum, chaos speech, but it was like something out of Greek tragedy with bodies all over and him going berserk in the mud and rain.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2026 10:04 PM (n7rxJ)

117 ONT IS UP!

Posted by: PabloD at February 14, 2026 10:05 PM (3VXNH)

118 A lot of these streaming movies have such poor sound production and editing, I have to turn on the subtitles just to pick up the dialogue. I don't like foreign language movies.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at February 14, 2026 10:44 PM (gVUi7)

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