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FBI: Jeffrey Epstein Was a Child Sex Abuser But He Wasn't Running a Pedophile Sex Ring for the World's Rich and Famous
I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false. I know that people don't like to hear this, but some alleged conspiracies are just too big to believe that no one ever blew the whistle.
He certainly does seem to have made young women available for the use of his pedophile pals. But this seems to have been a matter of ingratiation and favor-banking rather than a quid pro quo with billionaires paying Ghislaine Maxwell at the till before passing the turnstile and entering Pedo Island. The FBI also says it did not find blackmail photos or videos in the Epstein files. Ed Morrissey digests an AP story. I'll just quote some of the matter he quotes, and refer you to his post for more.The FBI pored over Jeffrey Epstein's bank records and emails. It searched his homes. It spent years interviewing his victims and examining his connections to some of the world's most influential people. But while investigators collected ample proof that Epstein sexually abused underage girls, they found scant evidence the well-connected financier led a sex trafficking ring serving powerful men, an Associated Press review of internal Justice Department records shows.I think this might depend on what the definition of "sex ring" is. The strong form of it didn't apparently exist. But a weak form it, with Epstein maintaining his value to wealthy and powerful men by making young women available to them, and subsequently getting very valuable insider information, probably did exist. Why did Peter Mandelson tell Epstein in advance of the then-nonpublic UK government decision to bail out the banks? What services was Epstein providing to him? Or was it just a cash transaction in that case, with Epstein paying Mandelson and his husband off? We know Epstein sent $75,000 to Mandelson, even if Mandelson "can't remember" if he received that sum or not, and another ten thousand pounds to his husband.
Prosecution memos, case summaries and other documents made public in the department's latest release of Epstein-related records show that FBI agents and federal prosecutors diligently pursued potential coconspirators. Even seemingly outlandish and incomprehensible claims, called in to tip lines, were examined. ... Investigators said they confirmed that Giuffre had been sexually abused by Epstein. But other parts of her story were problematic. Two other Epstein victims who Giuffre had claimed were also "lent out" to powerful men told investigators they had no such experience, prosecutors wrote in a 2019 internal memo. "No other victim has described being expressly directed by either Maxwell or Epstein to engage in sexual activity with other men," the memo said.Yeah, I don't know. I do not believe that Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi have any incentive to lie about these things. The conspiracy theorists lose me when they start claiming that everyone who fails to support their conspiracy theories must themselves be in on the conspiracy. But, conspiracy theorists tend to do that. That's their go-to move. I don't exactly feel satisfied by this report. I still think there's gotta be something more there. But I don't know if I'd put much money on that.
Thomas Massie today:
— Pino Americano (@PinoAmericano) February 9, 2026
“I’ve never said I have 20 names.”
Thomas Massie on 10/14/2025:
“We know at least 20 men are implicated in the files.”
He’s crashing hard. pic.twitter.com/fGyuKNUbhq
Have you tried asking them to just…tell you the names? https://t.co/6cVneGOIS1
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) February 9, 2026
Thomas Massie today:
— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) February 9, 2026
“I’ve never said I have 20 names.”
Thomas Massie on 10/14/2025:
“We know at least 20 men are implicated in the files.” pic.twitter.com/EbPhupzrSM
EPSTEIN: Rep Thomas Massie has been covering up the names of 20 Epstein clients for at least six months. Massie told the House Judiciary Committee about the list last September. Who is he covering for? pic.twitter.com/zyjyIFAomx
— @amuse (@amuse) February 8, 2026
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well now
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at February 09, 2026 04:03 PM (jrgJz)
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He was an arranger and a money launderer, and the yacht girls were most likely the equivalent of booth girls and the free toaster that plebs get at their savings and loans.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:03 PM (rbvCR)
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And you believe this?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2026 04:05 PM (Vvh2V)
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"I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false."
I saw a couple of email exchanges on YT where Epstein and his correspondents used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
I saw a couple of email exchanges on YT where Epstein and his correspondents used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:05 PM (N8ZBc)
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To few whistle blowers.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 09, 2026 04:05 PM (lpVer)
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I believe the total opposite of what the FBI and Pam Bondi tell me.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:06 PM (abIsI)
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During our Festivus gathering in December, I aired my grievance...
With seemingly the entire world going to Epstein's Island, how the hell did I not get the invite??!!
With seemingly the entire world going to Epstein's Island, how the hell did I not get the invite??!!
Posted by: UncleJefe at February 09, 2026 04:07 PM (gAuAm)
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>>>2 He was an arranger and a money launderer, and the yacht girls were most likely the equivalent of booth girls and the free toaster that plebs get at their savings and loans.
yup
yup
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:07 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:07 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2026 04:07 PM (KfXOG)
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I think Epstein was routinely blackmailing politicos and billionaires to funnel money into his investment operation.
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (jtM2q)
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ace, if you watched Mike Benz on Rogan, he put out the fact that when prosecuting an individual who is deeply tied into CIA or IC matters, the DOJ tends to prosecute and shallowly as possible, and drops anything that might expose the IC and what they are doing.
He talked about the prosecution of one of the organizers of the Cuban counter-revolutionaries, though it also matches Maxwell and P-Diddy
Viva Frei called it "limited prosecution" as opposed to "limited hangout" Of course there is a catchier way to say it, since Viva Frei is a lame Canadian lawyer. Maybe "limited hangout to dry"
He talked about the prosecution of one of the organizers of the Cuban counter-revolutionaries, though it also matches Maxwell and P-Diddy
Viva Frei called it "limited prosecution" as opposed to "limited hangout" Of course there is a catchier way to say it, since Viva Frei is a lame Canadian lawyer. Maybe "limited hangout to dry"
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (rbvCR)
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I believe the term for what Epstein and Maxwell did is 'pandering' with the rich and famous.
Epstein and Maxwell kept the underage girls for themselves. They didn't like sharing their shiny new toys with their pals, but the older, slightly used ones were fair game for people like Clinton and Randy Andy.
Epstein and Maxwell kept the underage girls for themselves. They didn't like sharing their shiny new toys with their pals, but the older, slightly used ones were fair game for people like Clinton and Randy Andy.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (yxhRU)
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"I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false. I know that people don't like to hear this, but some alleged conspiracies are just too big to believe that no one ever blew the whistle."
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Agreed. Though for those who believe joos are behind all the other global conspiracies, it's all too plausible.
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Agreed. Though for those who believe joos are behind all the other global conspiracies, it's all too plausible.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (36PRH)
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The most interesting email I've seen so far is Edward Jay Epstein (no relation) inviting Ghislane to join the secret "shadow 9/11 commission"
Note, Ghislane didn't see to have any actual presence of her own at the time - she was Epstein f*ck buddy and gopher at the time
Note, Ghislane didn't see to have any actual presence of her own at the time - she was Epstein f*ck buddy and gopher at the time
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (sKqQm)
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Just a guy in the Cincinnati office.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (QLKBy)
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He certainly does seem to have made young women available for the use of his pedophile pals. But this seems to have been a matter of ingratiation and favor-banking rather than a quid pro quo with billionaires paying Ghislaine Maxwell at the till before passing the turnstile and entering Pedo Island.
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Remember...there was a trial.
The women were interviewed as witnesses, and most couldn't be used as witnesses. Because they helped him get more women.
And none of them were prepubescent.
Epstein himself reportedly liked 'em young, but the sex part of his operation was nubile, mostly legal women. I think in the Bahamas they were all legal (16 is the legal age there, I believe).
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Remember...there was a trial.
The women were interviewed as witnesses, and most couldn't be used as witnesses. Because they helped him get more women.
And none of them were prepubescent.
Epstein himself reportedly liked 'em young, but the sex part of his operation was nubile, mostly legal women. I think in the Bahamas they were all legal (16 is the legal age there, I believe).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (GBKbO)
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look I'll just be straight: I think that PizzaGaters and QAnon people have a lot riding on the Epstein sex ring to vindicate their prior unevidenced claims. I don't have that baggage, so I don't *need* this case to pan out the way I think it *should* pan out.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:09 PM (1wjle)
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He was an arranger and a money launderer, and the yacht girls were most likely the equivalent of booth girls and the free toaster that plebs get at their savings and loans.
Mike Benz was just on Rogan again and he's making that same case. But with more background flavor, like that Epstein was likely involved with Iran-Contra.
Mike Benz was just on Rogan again and he's making that same case. But with more background flavor, like that Epstein was likely involved with Iran-Contra.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 09, 2026 04:09 PM (2ocoG)
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Yeah, I don't know. I do not believe that Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi have any incentive to lie about these things. The conspiracy theorists lose me when they start claiming that everyone who fails to support their conspiracy theories must themselves be in on the conspiracy. But, conspiracy theorists tend to do that. That's their go-to move.
I am saddened more than I can say by this incontrovertible evidence that Ace was in on the conspiracy.
*wipes away tear*
I am saddened more than I can say by this incontrovertible evidence that Ace was in on the conspiracy.
*wipes away tear*
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (Riz8t)
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Yeah, I don't know. I do not believe that Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi have any incentive to lie about these things.
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I guess we'll see if Bongino goes back to sounding like he did before this bout in government. The other two still haven't impressed me much.
But that doesn't much matter as I don't believe any of them personally poured over the three million documents currently released (plus whatever is apparently waiting for the next batch), I think it's more likely they had underlings write summaries, and since *those* people are likely federal careerists, I don't much believe them.
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I guess we'll see if Bongino goes back to sounding like he did before this bout in government. The other two still haven't impressed me much.
But that doesn't much matter as I don't believe any of them personally poured over the three million documents currently released (plus whatever is apparently waiting for the next batch), I think it's more likely they had underlings write summaries, and since *those* people are likely federal careerists, I don't much believe them.
Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (vSvIl)
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NEW: Ghislaine Maxwell Vindicates Trump In Closed-Door Testimony
Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (enSNT)
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Please excuse Jeffrey from prison today. He's not feeling well.
Posted by: Epstein's mother at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (NIB5L)
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>>>Mike Benz was just on Rogan again and he's making that same case. But with more background flavor, like that Epstein was likely involved with Iran-Contra.
I mean....
I mean....
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (1wjle)
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I saw a couple of email exchanges on YT where Epstein and his correspondents used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:05 PM (N8ZBc)
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That'll be $10.77.
Same as Fry's pin number on Futurama.
Which Mom then used to steal $4.3 billion.
There's your connection.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:05 PM (N8ZBc)
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That'll be $10.77.
Same as Fry's pin number on Futurama.
Which Mom then used to steal $4.3 billion.
There's your connection.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (ESVrU)
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"PizzaGaters and QAnon"
The top online predator-hunter is Alex Rosen. He's seen it all. He regularly runs into the 'cheese pizza' stuff when monitoring predator comms. It's well established that the phrase is slang for CSAM.
The top online predator-hunter is Alex Rosen. He's seen it all. He regularly runs into the 'cheese pizza' stuff when monitoring predator comms. It's well established that the phrase is slang for CSAM.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:11 PM (N8ZBc)
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"FBI: Jeffrey Epstein Was a Child Sex Abuser But He Wasn't Running a Pedophile Sex Ring for the World's Rich and Famous">>>
/Insert John Candy Meme "Sure, sure"
/Insert John Candy Meme "Sure, sure"
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 09, 2026 04:11 PM (zjgNU)
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How much am I expected to believe in the absence of evidence?
Oh, so now we have to have *air quotes* "evidence"? We need to prove our assertions with *air quotes* "facts"?
What is this world coming to?
Oh, so now we have to have *air quotes* "evidence"? We need to prove our assertions with *air quotes* "facts"?
What is this world coming to?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:12 PM (Riz8t)
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"...I don't believe any of them personally poured over the three million documents..."
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You mean like with kerosene?
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You mean like with kerosene?
Posted by: Spelling nerd at February 09, 2026 04:12 PM (NIB5L)
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It's the bad part that's so bad. Otherwise there's nothing to look at.
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at February 09, 2026 04:12 PM (dzZCL)
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All doubt removed.
Posted by: connected and litigious at February 09, 2026 04:12 PM (cS1cw)
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HARRY REID is laughing his ass off in hell.
Posted by: ZooomZooom (R) at February 09, 2026 04:12 PM (byH8I)
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>>>The top online predator-hunter is Alex Rosen. He's seen it all. He regularly runs into the 'cheese pizza' stuff when monitoring predator comms. It's well established that the phrase is slang for CSAM.
All I've seen is circular reporting with Pizzagaters claiming that pizza is a common code word for children and then when you look for where this originates, it turns out it's just from Pizzagaters saying it's "well known" pizza is code for children.
All I've seen is circular reporting with Pizzagaters claiming that pizza is a common code word for children and then when you look for where this originates, it turns out it's just from Pizzagaters saying it's "well known" pizza is code for children.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (1wjle)
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I think Epstein was routinely blackmailing politicos and billionaires to funnel money into his investment operation.
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (jtM2q)
The minute a rumor came out that there was blackmail going on, his posh friends and the high class guests and the normies he needed for cover all decide not to go, since they all have things to hide and lots to lose.
He would wind up playing gin rummy with Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman. (ew)
He may have passed info on to the IC, so THEY could blackmail or turn them. And it is not like THAT is going to come out in open court.
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (jtM2q)
The minute a rumor came out that there was blackmail going on, his posh friends and the high class guests and the normies he needed for cover all decide not to go, since they all have things to hide and lots to lose.
He would wind up playing gin rummy with Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman. (ew)
He may have passed info on to the IC, so THEY could blackmail or turn them. And it is not like THAT is going to come out in open court.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (rbvCR)
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"Two other Epstein victims who Giuffre had claimed were also "lent out" to powerful men told investigators they had no such experience, prosecutors wrote in a 2019 internal memo.
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I have long said that 90% of the reporting and rumor-mongering on Epstein was wrong because it didn't jive with how this works in the real world.
In the real world, girls aren't "lent out" to powerful men. The girls eagerly seek out other powerful men in the group. Rich guys with yachts have yacht girls lined up at the marina. Puff Daddy had 100x more girls (and guys) who desperately wanted to go to his parties than he could invite. Epstein surely had lines of girls waiting to get on the jet to the private island.
This is hard for many people to accept, in part because they can't see girls selling themselves like that. But there are many many girls who can and do. Eagerly.
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I have long said that 90% of the reporting and rumor-mongering on Epstein was wrong because it didn't jive with how this works in the real world.
In the real world, girls aren't "lent out" to powerful men. The girls eagerly seek out other powerful men in the group. Rich guys with yachts have yacht girls lined up at the marina. Puff Daddy had 100x more girls (and guys) who desperately wanted to go to his parties than he could invite. Epstein surely had lines of girls waiting to get on the jet to the private island.
This is hard for many people to accept, in part because they can't see girls selling themselves like that. But there are many many girls who can and do. Eagerly.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
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I dunno. Occam’s razor.
A rich Wall Street type guy attracts people looking to cash in, and trades in favors that sometimes involved young women. And I don’t mean to sound cruel, but it seems a lot of these women knew exactly what had to be done. We will leave it at that.
I mean, this story is repeated hundreds if not thousands of times across the Wall Street population.
And yet it intrigues a whole groups of people because some of those involved are in politics.
Whatever.
A rich Wall Street type guy attracts people looking to cash in, and trades in favors that sometimes involved young women. And I don’t mean to sound cruel, but it seems a lot of these women knew exactly what had to be done. We will leave it at that.
I mean, this story is repeated hundreds if not thousands of times across the Wall Street population.
And yet it intrigues a whole groups of people because some of those involved are in politics.
Whatever.
Posted by: Vengeance at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (PM/iv)
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Semi related.
Apparently, they substituted an alternative dictionary when I wasn't looking.
WaPo says halftime show about degenerate sex with randos reflected "wholesome, traditional family values"
Apparently, they substituted an alternative dictionary when I wasn't looking.
WaPo says halftime show about degenerate sex with randos reflected "wholesome, traditional family values"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (J+Psw)
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Massie's in de cold, cold ground.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (bxiOq)
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I honestly don't think the island stuff is all that big of a deal. Many old regulars here have heard me talk about my niece (daughter of a cousin, really) who was approached by a woman (she's not sure if it was Maxwell) back in the 90s. These girls, underage though they were, knew exactly what they were going to the island for. She was told there would be unlimited drugs, alcohol, constant parties at night, all day on the beach, rich men everywhere.
Now, she said that it was presented more as happy endings and blow jobs, but there was no mistaking that sexual behavior, richly rewarded, was the intention. And some of those girls won't testify, because they got their very rich husband out of it.
What I want to know is, what happened at that ranch. Because if half of what I've heard is true... it's way way way beyond old men chasing consenting teenagers.
Now, she said that it was presented more as happy endings and blow jobs, but there was no mistaking that sexual behavior, richly rewarded, was the intention. And some of those girls won't testify, because they got their very rich husband out of it.
What I want to know is, what happened at that ranch. Because if half of what I've heard is true... it's way way way beyond old men chasing consenting teenagers.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2026 04:14 PM (Vvh2V)
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I believe the total opposite of what the FBI and Pam Bondi tell me.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:06 PM (abIsI)
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None more cynical! Come, let us bask in the glow of Healey’s virtuous cynicism!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:06 PM (abIsI)
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None more cynical! Come, let us bask in the glow of Healey’s virtuous cynicism!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 09, 2026 04:14 PM (u73oe)
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"I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false. I know that people don't like to hear this, but some alleged conspiracies are just too big to believe that no one ever blew the whistle."
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It would be like having taxpayers fund a bioweapon for years that was gonna kill millions, even to the point where they did dry runs the autumn before the release. Or stopping ballot counting in seven states that all matter and having a raft of fake ballots ready to go and actually swinging a national election. Too many moving parts. Would never happen. Someone would blow the whistle.
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It would be like having taxpayers fund a bioweapon for years that was gonna kill millions, even to the point where they did dry runs the autumn before the release. Or stopping ballot counting in seven states that all matter and having a raft of fake ballots ready to go and actually swinging a national election. Too many moving parts. Would never happen. Someone would blow the whistle.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2026 04:14 PM (QLKBy)
Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2026 04:15 PM (vSvIl)
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"it's just from Pizzagaters saying it's "well known" pizza is code for children."
I don't know if Rosen is a Pizzagater, but you can watch his catch vids and see and hear it for yourself.
I don't know if Rosen is a Pizzagater, but you can watch his catch vids and see and hear it for yourself.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:15 PM (N8ZBc)
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WaPo says halftime show about degenerate sex with randos reflected "wholesome, traditional family values"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (J+Psw)
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The family that has degenerate sex with randos together stays together.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 09, 2026 04:13 PM (J+Psw)
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The family that has degenerate sex with randos together stays together.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 09, 2026 04:15 PM (bxiOq)
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Conspiracy or none, the scariest thing to me is how matter-of-factly these fuckers talk about this shit.
Whether actual pedos or jailbait chasers, these pieces of shit remind me of the question over whether fish are aware of water.
Conspiracy or none, the scariest thing to me is how matter-of-factly these fuckers talk about this shit.
Whether actual pedos or jailbait chasers, these pieces of shit remind me of the question over whether fish are aware of water.
Posted by: biteme at February 09, 2026 04:15 PM (xWS9V)
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I'm sure the thousands of documents "discovered" in the burn bags hidden in the basement didn't have much evidence. Just some post-it notes, shopping lists, and holiday messages.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:15 PM (abIsI)
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So "patrons of child prostitution brothel" is the cover story? Because the truth is much more damaging than that?
These people losing their jobs and positions for being in the Epstein files are liabilities because of their secret-information-leaking and bribe-taking?
So "patrons of child prostitution brothel" is the cover story? Because the truth is much more damaging than that?
These people losing their jobs and positions for being in the Epstein files are liabilities because of their secret-information-leaking and bribe-taking?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (kf4RM)
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Rep. Massie says he has list of 20 suspected clients
You have more than that if you're holding a copy of the Congressional Record.
You have more than that if you're holding a copy of the Congressional Record.
Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (R8Lmn)
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I mean....
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (1wjle)
Listen to it, this one is interesting. The dates match and no one can give a real explanation why so much money was being passed around and not flagged.
I mean, I get multiple calls when I try to wire $18K to a family member, and my savings and loan is generally pissed because they have to fill out paperwork
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:10 PM (1wjle)
Listen to it, this one is interesting. The dates match and no one can give a real explanation why so much money was being passed around and not flagged.
I mean, I get multiple calls when I try to wire $18K to a family member, and my savings and loan is generally pissed because they have to fill out paperwork
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (rbvCR)
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>>Mike Benz was just on Rogan again and he's making that same case. But with more background flavor, like that Epstein was likely involved with Iran-Contra.
Iran-Contra was just the beginning...but, yeah. Dude had hands in ALL the CIA Banking Traffic from the late 70s going forward to the 20-teens.
Iran-Contra was just the beginning...but, yeah. Dude had hands in ALL the CIA Banking Traffic from the late 70s going forward to the 20-teens.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (gH8T+)
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I'm sure the thousands of documents "discovered" in the burn bags hidden in the basement didn't have much evidence. Just some post-it notes, shopping lists, and holiday messages.
Yoga and grandkids.
Yoga and grandkids.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (Riz8t)
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>>>In the real world, girls aren't "lent out" to powerful men. The girls eagerly seek out other powerful men in the group. Rich guys with yachts have yacht girls lined up at the marina. Puff Daddy had 100x more girls (and guys) who desperately wanted to go to his parties than he could invite. Epstein surely had lines of girls waiting to get on the jet to the private island.
right, rich and powerful men of supposed "standing" can't just be freaks and cultivate a group of 17 year old girls to have sex with. That's where Epstein comes in. He's a scumbag and doesn't care about his standing, so he can surround himself with girls/barely legal young women, and then his "friends" can visit him and if they get a massage or two, well, that's their business.
right, rich and powerful men of supposed "standing" can't just be freaks and cultivate a group of 17 year old girls to have sex with. That's where Epstein comes in. He's a scumbag and doesn't care about his standing, so he can surround himself with girls/barely legal young women, and then his "friends" can visit him and if they get a massage or two, well, that's their business.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (1wjle)
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Some of these girls went home after whatever trips they went on. First, where the F were their parents. Second, they were not obligated to go. Yet they kept going.
I suppose we could get into the whole psychology of abuse. But it feels like the motives were money and a luxurious lifestyle. The fact the people they interacted with were trash scumbags is sort of a rule of the game.
I suppose we could get into the whole psychology of abuse. But it feels like the motives were money and a luxurious lifestyle. The fact the people they interacted with were trash scumbags is sort of a rule of the game.
Posted by: Vengeance at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (PM/iv)
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No matter what the truth is people are not going to believe that there wasn't a mass conspiracy.
Posted by: steevy at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (YwEeS)
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I have a feeling the Dems wanted us to focus on Epstein instead of Republicans focusing on the economy and winning elections.
It's alway been a distraction.
It's alway been a distraction.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (NpAcC)
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I don’t believe in the bigger conspiracy theories, but I don’t think Epstein was just a guy indulging in his fetishes. He clearly wanted powerful, influential people to be compromised so he could use and leverage them.
You don’t go out of your way to involve people like Bill Gates just because you think they’re fun to be around. He wanted something.
You don’t go out of your way to involve people like Bill Gates just because you think they’re fun to be around. He wanted something.
Posted by: Maroon at February 09, 2026 04:17 PM (KhBND)
Posted by: connected and litigious at February 09, 2026 04:17 PM (cS1cw)
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Rep. Massie says he has list of 20 suspected clients
And the Dems will welcome him with open arms, while condemning Joe McCarthy. Irony is lost on the venal.
And the Dems will welcome him with open arms, while condemning Joe McCarthy. Irony is lost on the venal.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:17 PM (Riz8t)
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I'm sure the thousands of documents "discovered" in the burn bags hidden in the basement didn't have much evidence. Just some post-it notes, shopping lists, and holiday messages.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Don't forget family recipes!
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Don't forget family recipes!
Posted by: Hillary! at February 09, 2026 04:18 PM (R8Lmn)
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BeeF JeRkY is Kids!!!11!
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:18 PM (gH8T+)
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Just to make sure, Ace, I gotta ask: you aren't suggesting the investigation should stop, are you?
There are still 2 million pages to be released.
There are still 2 million pages to be released.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:19 PM (N8ZBc)
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Epstein and Maxwell kept the underage girls for themselves. They didn't like sharing their shiny new toys with their pals, but the older, slightly used ones were fair game for people like Clinton and Randy Andy.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (yxhRU)
And they weren't kidnapping virgin tweenies out of orphanages and convents, either. There are plenty of young foolish women who think the life of a yacht girl is glamorous, and the ones hooked up will recruit others.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at February 09, 2026 04:08 PM (yxhRU)
And they weren't kidnapping virgin tweenies out of orphanages and convents, either. There are plenty of young foolish women who think the life of a yacht girl is glamorous, and the ones hooked up will recruit others.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2026 04:19 PM (8zz6B)
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OK, the Epstein stuff is real. But it is a Chinese intelligence operation. 100% Chinese, like the biolab.
Posted by: Alternative Theory at February 09, 2026 04:19 PM (33JYF)
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well, oh boy, yeah, I mean, if the fbi says it, that's the gold standard, innit?
amirite? or amirite?
amirite? or amirite?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2026 04:19 PM (Cjt/F)
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>>> I don’t believe in the bigger conspiracy theories, but I don’t think Epstein was just a guy indulging in his fetishes. He clearly wanted powerful, influential people to be compromised so he could use and leverage them.
You don’t go out of your way to involve people like Bill Gates just because you think they’re fun to be around. He wanted something.
I kind of agree except with the suggestion about there being an explicit blackmail threat. Plus, just making yourself valuable to these men is enough to get them to do favors. If they want to keep visiting your island, they have to act like "friends," and friends do "favors" for each other.
This is what I mean about not believing that Ghislaine Maxwell is standing there with a credit card machine. That's not how it would work, usually.
You don’t go out of your way to involve people like Bill Gates just because you think they’re fun to be around. He wanted something.
I kind of agree except with the suggestion about there being an explicit blackmail threat. Plus, just making yourself valuable to these men is enough to get them to do favors. If they want to keep visiting your island, they have to act like "friends," and friends do "favors" for each other.
This is what I mean about not believing that Ghislaine Maxwell is standing there with a credit card machine. That's not how it would work, usually.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:19 PM (1wjle)
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>>"The conspiracy theorists lose me when they start claiming that everyone who fails to support their conspiracy theories must themselves be in on the conspiracy."
This is exactly what someone in on the conspiracy would say!
This is exactly what someone in on the conspiracy would say!
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (mymNa)
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Some of these girls went home after whatever trips they went on. First, where the F were their parents. Second, they were not obligated to go. Yet they kept going.
The feds have busted other child sex rings - the the Island Raid from Sound of Freedom.
Presumably there are documents that the FBI has on what normally happens to underage girls after going through something like this.
My guess would be they go on to become yacht girls/OF types.
The feds have busted other child sex rings - the the Island Raid from Sound of Freedom.
Presumably there are documents that the FBI has on what normally happens to underage girls after going through something like this.
My guess would be they go on to become yacht girls/OF types.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (sKqQm)
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I have a list of 57 names …
Posted by: Senator John Iselun at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (pY+ea)
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Now, if you really want to reach out and poke the hornets' nest, lets ask about the "unaccompanied minors" that Homan has been rescuing in the US, and who had them and for what use.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (rbvCR)
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""I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false."
I thought the prevailing "conspiracy theory" was that Epstein was working for/with Mossad/FBI or other intel agencies. That was (is) my theory. By having some sort of evidence/blackmail on powerful people, he could find out things and/or influence outcomes.
Just how that would have been accomplished, idk.
I thought the prevailing "conspiracy theory" was that Epstein was working for/with Mossad/FBI or other intel agencies. That was (is) my theory. By having some sort of evidence/blackmail on powerful people, he could find out things and/or influence outcomes.
Just how that would have been accomplished, idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (vbXSk)
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people who do serious drugs together usually don't freely rat on each other (until they get charged) because they know their drug-using confederates could also rat on them. That's a kind of compromise, but it's not an explicit compromise. You don't have to tell the guy you do heroin with "don't tell anyone I do heroin." It's implicit.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:21 PM (1wjle)
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Massie is a useless circus clown. He’s like Bozo, only with two day razor stubble and a horn he keeps in his pocket to blow at unsuspecting pedestrians conspiracy theorists.
*beep beep* I have 20 Epstein names. Here you go frothy, conspiracy people.
*beep beep* I have 20 Epstein names. Here you go frothy, conspiracy people.
Posted by: Vengeance at February 09, 2026 04:21 PM (PM/iv)
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The real connection that did not get fleshed out, further in this round of dumps was the connection to the French 'Talent Scout' that also hanged himself in Prison.
Purely coincidental, that.
Purely coincidental, that.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:21 PM (gH8T+)
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Wikileaks had the codes in the legitimately creepy emails. Unless you think it's normal to talk about little girls and boys and meatballs on cheese and the other bizarre food "code" talk.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2026 04:21 PM (QLKBy)
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The explanation I heard from Benz makes most sense to me: Girls Juice Deals. Epstein was a deal-maker and money launderer, and dealt with the kind of trash that lives in that world. The girls were party-favors - not the subject of the deal. Incidental to the larger purpose.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (bNf8H)
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So here is a question I'd like an answer to. Let's suppose the large form of the Epstein scandal is false.
He personally was a pedophile and got Ghislane and a couple of his flunkies to help him get underage girls.
Why did he then share them with Prince Andrew and maybe Bill Clinton/Bill Gates and then no one else?
For example did Kevin Spacey go to Epstein Island to get money from Epstein? To have sex with legal yacht boys?
He personally was a pedophile and got Ghislane and a couple of his flunkies to help him get underage girls.
Why did he then share them with Prince Andrew and maybe Bill Clinton/Bill Gates and then no one else?
For example did Kevin Spacey go to Epstein Island to get money from Epstein? To have sex with legal yacht boys?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)
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My guess would be they go on to become yacht girls/OF types.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (sKqQm)
A lot of molested kids go on to be the next generation, and have issues with drugs, prostitution and generally fucked up lives.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:20 PM (sKqQm)
A lot of molested kids go on to be the next generation, and have issues with drugs, prostitution and generally fucked up lives.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (rbvCR)
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I have a Secret list of 11 Herbs and Spices.
Posted by: Colonel Sanders at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (gH8T+)
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>>>64 well, oh boy, yeah, I mean, if the fbi says it, that's the gold standard, innit?
if patel says so, then yeah. This guy risked his career and possibly prison to show that Russiagate was a hoax.
And now he's, what, joined the Epstein Democrats? WHY?!
I mean, can someone explain that? Why are Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi now on the Epstein sex ring payroll?
Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
if patel says so, then yeah. This guy risked his career and possibly prison to show that Russiagate was a hoax.
And now he's, what, joined the Epstein Democrats? WHY?!
I mean, can someone explain that? Why are Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi now on the Epstein sex ring payroll?
Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (1wjle)
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Awkwardly, the justice dept was developing press releases on the death of Epstein in custody on the 9th, when he wasnt found dead until the 10th.
Posted by: Typo? at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (6rdCx)
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Don't forget the sweet heart deal Epstein got. All signs of bigger things.
I mean another coincidence.
I mean another coincidence.
Posted by: connected and litigious at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (cS1cw)
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Some creditable commenters on teh @X were talking about how Jeffee was working with Mister Putin. It seemed to make sense to me.
Posted by: @58ARAMCOBrat at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (x9HPv)
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For example did Kevin Spacey go to Epstein Island to get money from Epstein? To have sex with legal yacht boys?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)
To be one of the glittery people that were brought in to give the place tone and impress the people with the money?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)
To be one of the glittery people that were brought in to give the place tone and impress the people with the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (rbvCR)
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Awkwardly, the justice dept was developing press releases on the death of Epstein in custody on the 9th, when he wasnt found dead until the 10th.
Also, a few people like Crowder investigated if you actually could kill yourself the way Epstein did and found they couldn't.
If Epstein was just some normal investment guy and had "no help" how did he manage it?
Also, a few people like Crowder investigated if you actually could kill yourself the way Epstein did and found they couldn't.
If Epstein was just some normal investment guy and had "no help" how did he manage it?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (sKqQm)
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With all the political crap happening in the Intelligence Community ™ aka The Deep State ™ is it any wonder they missed the fall of the Soviet Union, the rise of the modern Jihadist Islam , 9/11, etc, etc, etc?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (yI5mB)
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[i78 I have a Secret list of 11 Herbs and Spices.
Posted by: Colonel Sanders
I have a list of whose been naughty or nice - Santa
Posted by: Colonel Sanders
I have a list of whose been naughty or nice - Santa
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (abIsI)
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78 I have a Secret list of 11 Herbs and Spices.
Posted by: Colonel Sanders
I have the recipe for New Coke, but for some reason, nobody wants to steal it.
Posted by: Colonel Sanders
I have the recipe for New Coke, but for some reason, nobody wants to steal it.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (Riz8t)
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>>>The explanation I heard from Benz makes most sense to me: Girls Juice Deals. Epstein was a deal-maker and money launderer, and dealt with the kind of trash that lives in that world. The girls were party-favors - not the subject of the deal. Incidental to the larger purpose.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: fd at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (vFG9F)
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Like that old song, "It doesn't have to be one or the other." For some, the deal was the deal and the underage was just the sugar-rush on top. But I'm sure over time Epstein and associates figured out that for SOME, the underage was the deal, and money was just how somebody got access to the underage.
Posted by: Crusader at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (TN0g+)
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It has all the classic signs of Russian collusion...
Posted by: The media we USED to watch at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (NIB5L)
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>>yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows.
That's uncouth...
That's uncouth...
Posted by: Big Pharma at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (gH8T+)
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We have had this discussion before. No one would attempt blackmail of the most powerful people in society since it would trigger a defense response from too many of those powerful people.
He ingratiated himself, and he created a mutual secret that both (a) protected him from any retribution since he knew things and (b) created position for himself as someone who could be trusted, and who could do favors. He was in the club.
We have had this discussion before. No one would attempt blackmail of the most powerful people in society since it would trigger a defense response from too many of those powerful people.
He ingratiated himself, and he created a mutual secret that both (a) protected him from any retribution since he knew things and (b) created position for himself as someone who could be trusted, and who could do favors. He was in the club.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (mymNa)
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Also, a few people like Crowder investigated if you actually could kill yourself the way Epstein did and found they couldn't.
How exactly would one prove that definitively?
How exactly would one prove that definitively?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (Riz8t)
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A lot of molested kids go on to be the next generation, and have issues with drugs, prostitution and generally fucked up lives.
I was watching a video on the deaths of b-list celebrities which included adult stars. While drugs was something shared between both the adult and non-adult stars, the adult ones added in murder, suicide, and AIDS....
I was watching a video on the deaths of b-list celebrities which included adult stars. While drugs was something shared between both the adult and non-adult stars, the adult ones added in murder, suicide, and AIDS....
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (sKqQm)
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>>Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
They don’t have a theory, Ace. It’s the same nics pushing the same bullshit Fay after day and it’s tiresome. Not only that but contra factual.
But they don’t come armed with facts. They bleat about Bondi and Patel ad nauseum.
Yeah they’re all in on it because the monster under their bed told them so. Or the person paying them told them to say it.
They don’t have a theory, Ace. It’s the same nics pushing the same bullshit Fay after day and it’s tiresome. Not only that but contra factual.
But they don’t come armed with facts. They bleat about Bondi and Patel ad nauseum.
Yeah they’re all in on it because the monster under their bed told them so. Or the person paying them told them to say it.
Posted by: Vengeance at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (PM/iv)
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So Epstein ran this sex scandal just for himself, yet got all kinds of visitors to his fantasy island?
Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (Ia/+0)
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>>.Also, a few people like Crowder investigated if you actually could kill yourself the way Epstein did and found they couldn't.
sorry, my eyes are rolling
sorry, my eyes are rolling
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:26 PM (1wjle)
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And remember Don Lemon said it was illegal to read the WikiLeaks emails and that CNN would tell you what was in them
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2026 04:26 PM (QLKBy)
100
"no marksman, no matter how skilled, could possibly have hit Kennedy three times"
(while he was traveling at 5-10 mph at a distance of about 120 feet)
(while he was traveling at 5-10 mph at a distance of about 120 feet)
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:26 PM (1wjle)
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This story fails to support my deeply felt belief in the utterly fallen nature of humanity, so I shan't believe it. No, I simply shannot.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 09, 2026 04:26 PM (BRvvM)
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How exactly would one prove that definitively?/i]
IIRC he had someone rig up a neck guard that would stop him from in fact choking to death
IIRC he had someone rig up a neck guard that would stop him from in fact choking to death
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:27 PM (sKqQm)
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"So Epstein ran this sex scandal just for himself, yet got all kinds of visitors to his fantasy island?"
Imagine you knew someone with a cabin on a lake and they invited you there for a weekend.
Many people would take up that offer.
This is the same thing: a Caribbean resort basically.
Imagine you knew someone with a cabin on a lake and they invited you there for a weekend.
Many people would take up that offer.
This is the same thing: a Caribbean resort basically.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:27 PM (IuIym)
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For example did Kevin Spacey go to Epstein Island to get money from Epstein? To have sex with legal yacht boys?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)
To be one of the glittery people that were brought in to give the place tone and impress the people with the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (rbvCR)
__
It's the lure of glamor and fame and exclusivity. One thing that the "Epstein files" revealed is just how badly even people with no interest in young ladies -- or girls at all -- wanted to get in with Epstein. People don't realize (or don't remember) what a major player he was in the social scene at the time.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)
To be one of the glittery people that were brought in to give the place tone and impress the people with the money?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:23 PM (rbvCR)
__
It's the lure of glamor and fame and exclusivity. One thing that the "Epstein files" revealed is just how badly even people with no interest in young ladies -- or girls at all -- wanted to get in with Epstein. People don't realize (or don't remember) what a major player he was in the social scene at the time.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:27 PM (iFTx/)
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I suspect the whole Epstein p3do ring story was manufactured by the deep state and their propaganda arm to deflect from some other p3do (or whatever) story.
Like, maybe the p3do ring the deep state and the propagandists are actually involved in. Or the continued efforts to overthrow the Trump administration.
I mean, there are a lot of reasons to suspect the whole story is as much an op as anything else the deep state conjures up.
Like, maybe the p3do ring the deep state and the propagandists are actually involved in. Or the continued efforts to overthrow the Trump administration.
I mean, there are a lot of reasons to suspect the whole story is as much an op as anything else the deep state conjures up.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2026 04:27 PM (jtM2q)
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Continued from the previous Left-Wing "Scoop" thread (and I think relevant here):
140 >>Tulsi must have something on Warner. He has been squirming like a toad lately.
During the Russia hoax, Warner was secretly communicating with Christopher Steele's lawyer Adam Waldman. Waldman was also the lawyer for Oleg Deripaska, at one time the richest oligarch in Russia.
He also is heavily invested in businesses in Ukraine. A lot of those investments were seized after the war began.
I've long believed that one of the main reason they wanted to get rid of Trump was they wanted the war in Ukraine and Trump did not.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2026 03:24 PM (viF8m)
I think it was overdetermined, with a vast constellation of reasons, and they all came down to this: Trump was proving that we didn't have to live like that.
We didn't have to accept a "managed decline" into corrupt, bureaucratic anarcho-tyranny. And we didn't have to accept a two-tier justice system -- Epstein was Federally arrested in July 2019 -- where the wealthy and well-connected get away with serious crimes, while the little guy is mercilessly ground under the heel of the State for regulatory infractions.
140 >>Tulsi must have something on Warner. He has been squirming like a toad lately.
During the Russia hoax, Warner was secretly communicating with Christopher Steele's lawyer Adam Waldman. Waldman was also the lawyer for Oleg Deripaska, at one time the richest oligarch in Russia.
He also is heavily invested in businesses in Ukraine. A lot of those investments were seized after the war began.
I've long believed that one of the main reason they wanted to get rid of Trump was they wanted the war in Ukraine and Trump did not.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2026 03:24 PM (viF8m)
I think it was overdetermined, with a vast constellation of reasons, and they all came down to this: Trump was proving that we didn't have to live like that.
We didn't have to accept a "managed decline" into corrupt, bureaucratic anarcho-tyranny. And we didn't have to accept a two-tier justice system -- Epstein was Federally arrested in July 2019 -- where the wealthy and well-connected get away with serious crimes, while the little guy is mercilessly ground under the heel of the State for regulatory infractions.
Posted by: SciVo at February 09, 2026 04:27 PM (Sy6m/)
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Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (1wjle)
I'm not saying I buy this theory, but the theory would be that too many allies (or our own IC) are implicated in the Epstein op, so our IC (FBI included) has decided to admit as little as possible.
(Possible allies implicated: UK, Israel, EU, etc...)
Again, I'm pretty sure Trump would prefer to bring the IC to justice, so I doubt this theory, but that would be the answer, I believe.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:22 PM (1wjle)
I'm not saying I buy this theory, but the theory would be that too many allies (or our own IC) are implicated in the Epstein op, so our IC (FBI included) has decided to admit as little as possible.
(Possible allies implicated: UK, Israel, EU, etc...)
Again, I'm pretty sure Trump would prefer to bring the IC to justice, so I doubt this theory, but that would be the answer, I believe.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (zjgNU)
108
and I'm the King of Eswatini.
Posted by: wth at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (UjdFS)
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97 So Epstein ran this sex scandal just for himself, yet got all kinds of visitors to his fantasy island?
Posted by: Skip
and recorded everything that happened there in every room 7x24.
Posted by: Skip
and recorded everything that happened there in every room 7x24.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (abIsI)
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I am not diving deep into this sewer of perversion and satanism:
1) Eptstein was an agent, whether CIA or Moussad
2) He created honey pots for politicians, royals, elites, and millionaires who would contribute to him...whether blackmail or what I obviously have no idea
3) Maxwell and others did the procuring of young girls (and boys?)
4) Pedophilia is real and apparently the taste of these wealthy demons
5) Trump was smart enough not to get involved, once he kicked Epstein out of Maralago. He is also a germaphobe, so I can't see him at orgies. Plus he dated supermodels of age
6) The Clintons were not as smart and Billy loved to party and wag his Peyronie's around. His hag, well, who knows what her proclivities are and I don't want to know what goes on with her, Huma or anyone else...and may tertiary syphilis rise up forever with a dash of herpes on the side
7) If the Dims had ANYTHING on Trump on Pedo Island they would have used this in 2016
I don't think Epstein hung himself. I would not be surprised if he is still alive
9) I care deeply about stopping satanic child trafficking and all that goes with this evil
10) Many are caught now, big names in politics and Hollywood. GOOD!
1) Eptstein was an agent, whether CIA or Moussad
2) He created honey pots for politicians, royals, elites, and millionaires who would contribute to him...whether blackmail or what I obviously have no idea
3) Maxwell and others did the procuring of young girls (and boys?)
4) Pedophilia is real and apparently the taste of these wealthy demons
5) Trump was smart enough not to get involved, once he kicked Epstein out of Maralago. He is also a germaphobe, so I can't see him at orgies. Plus he dated supermodels of age
6) The Clintons were not as smart and Billy loved to party and wag his Peyronie's around. His hag, well, who knows what her proclivities are and I don't want to know what goes on with her, Huma or anyone else...and may tertiary syphilis rise up forever with a dash of herpes on the side
7) If the Dims had ANYTHING on Trump on Pedo Island they would have used this in 2016
I don't think Epstein hung himself. I would not be surprised if he is still alive
9) I care deeply about stopping satanic child trafficking and all that goes with this evil
10) Many are caught now, big names in politics and Hollywood. GOOD!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (WONhk)
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He walked away with a wrist slap on something serious that you or i would still be in jail over. The US attny said the deal was IC related. He then winds up dead in max security. The video was off, then years later here it is, wait its missing a minute, no, here it is. Who is walking in the tier in orange?? Nobody knows. Oh and they where putting together a press release on his in custody death the day before he died. I totally get the conspiracy people. Totally. I am not all the way there, but i sure has hell aint pointing and laughing at them either.
Full stop.
Full stop.
Posted by: Soooooo at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (6rdCx)
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How exactly would one prove that definitively?/i]
IIRC he had someone rig up a neck guard that would stop him from in fact choking to death
So he rigged up something that would prevent the occurrence of the very thing he said couldn't occur?
IIRC he had someone rig up a neck guard that would stop him from in fact choking to death
So he rigged up something that would prevent the occurrence of the very thing he said couldn't occur?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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There is as aspect of human nature that wants the “ story” as scurrilous as possible. Akin to the gossip tree that is old as humans have been around.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (pDt9x)
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11 I think Epstein was routinely blackmailing politicos and billionaires to funnel money into his investment operation.
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Most of those billionaires had security peeps that actually screen people around them. Billionaires are not that naive, Andrew might have been due to the Royal Family shit but he kept up with Epstein willingly and Sarah Ferguson flirted with Epstein as well. Most of the emails don't indicate any nature of blackmail but more of shared enthusiasm in human sex trafficking. You aren't friendly with someone that is blackmailing you.
Whether that was at the behest of the CIA or MI5 or whoever is debatable.
But his primary gig was getting money to invest. BAMN
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Most of those billionaires had security peeps that actually screen people around them. Billionaires are not that naive, Andrew might have been due to the Royal Family shit but he kept up with Epstein willingly and Sarah Ferguson flirted with Epstein as well. Most of the emails don't indicate any nature of blackmail but more of shared enthusiasm in human sex trafficking. You aren't friendly with someone that is blackmailing you.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (2swu2)
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What was the prevailing media theory on Epstein until the "get Trump" op. Because we know THAT'S bullshit. Unless of course you think they were telling the truth about that one thing.
Posted by: ... at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (QLKBy)
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The blackmail angle was always the stupidest of stupid takes.
No matter how much those who believe it thunder about their holy mission to get justice.
And accused everyone who doesn't of protecting pedos.
I mean, FFS, Epstein was a tiny little minnow in an ocean of sharks.
Sharks with lots and lots of money. And power.
Who have no problem hiring bodyguards with no morals.
They type of guys who hear boss is having some pipsqueak bother him over some Island Fun Time and know exactly how to make it go away quickly and quietly without being told a word.
Meaning, Jeffry wouldn't have died in a cell, he would have been dead decades ago.
No matter how much those who believe it thunder about their holy mission to get justice.
And accused everyone who doesn't of protecting pedos.
I mean, FFS, Epstein was a tiny little minnow in an ocean of sharks.
Sharks with lots and lots of money. And power.
Who have no problem hiring bodyguards with no morals.
They type of guys who hear boss is having some pipsqueak bother him over some Island Fun Time and know exactly how to make it go away quickly and quietly without being told a word.
Meaning, Jeffry wouldn't have died in a cell, he would have been dead decades ago.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (HXT0k)
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As has been noted, there are many data points to the bookends of being hired by former OSA operative Donald Barr to dying in a prison run by his son Bill Barr, one day all of these data points will be connected and explained.
Maybe Hollywood will make a Spotlight style film on the subject. Maybe get mark Ruffalo involved somehow.
Maybe Hollywood will make a Spotlight style film on the subject. Maybe get mark Ruffalo involved somehow.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (Kw+Iy)
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The US attny said the deal was IC related. He then winds up dead in max security. The video was off, then years later here it is, wait its missing a minute, no, here it is. Who is walking in the tier in orange?? Nobody knows. Oh and they where putting together a press release on his in custody death the day before he died. I totally get the conspiracy people. Totally. I am not all the way there, but i sure has hell aint pointing and laughing at them either.
Full stop.
Posted by: Soooooo
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For the record, under oath just recently, Acosta denies he was told that by the government.
Some speculate that Alan Deshowitz might have told him but that is speculation.
Full stop.
Posted by: Soooooo
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For the record, under oath just recently, Acosta denies he was told that by the government.
Some speculate that Alan Deshowitz might have told him but that is speculation.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (2swu2)
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>>Imagine you knew someone with a cabin on a lake and they invited you there for a weekend.
I always get weirded out when my friends let their kids go on vacations with other people.
I know it can be innocuous...but, damn.
When my friend tells me his 14 yr old kid is at Elk Camp with his Youth Pastor/ Boyscout Troop Leader, I get nervous for that kid.
I always get weirded out when my friends let their kids go on vacations with other people.
I know it can be innocuous...but, damn.
When my friend tells me his 14 yr old kid is at Elk Camp with his Youth Pastor/ Boyscout Troop Leader, I get nervous for that kid.
Posted by: Big Pharma at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (gH8T+)
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So Epstein ran this sex scandal just for himself, yet got all kinds of visitors to his fantasy island
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De plane! De plane!
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De plane! De plane!
Posted by: wth at February 09, 2026 04:29 PM (UjdFS)
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Has Don Lemon found the plane yet?
Posted by: I gotta ask at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (NIB5L)
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"I've said previously that the idea that some people have, that Epstein was literally running a child sex brothel and billionaires were paying him for sex, was almost certainly false. "
I don't want to be a poopy head but running a sex ring where people paid him to have sex with kids is IMO not much different than providing an island where the rich and famous could go and have sex with kids and not get caught amounts to basically the same thing.
I don't want to be a poopy head but running a sex ring where people paid him to have sex with kids is IMO not much different than providing an island where the rich and famous could go and have sex with kids and not get caught amounts to basically the same thing.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (0N4FZ)
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But while investigators collected ample proof that Epstein sexually abused underage girls, they found scant evidence the well-connected financier led a sex trafficking ring serving powerful men, an Associated Press review of internal Justice Department records shows.
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Bullshit. This guy was a pimp for the powerful disguised as a friend and financier, working on behalf of the XXX and the XXXXXX.
He is exactly who we think he is/was.
If I get my hands on curated blackmail of the worlds rich and powerful with all the leverage that entails, it's not being released to congresscritters and temps like Bondi or Bongingo. Leverage loses its power if made public.
This ain't exactly a coverup, but there's white paint involved and Tom Sawyer is getting lots of takers to sling that brush for him.
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Bullshit. This guy was a pimp for the powerful disguised as a friend and financier, working on behalf of the XXX and the XXXXXX.
He is exactly who we think he is/was.
If I get my hands on curated blackmail of the worlds rich and powerful with all the leverage that entails, it's not being released to congresscritters and temps like Bondi or Bongingo. Leverage loses its power if made public.
This ain't exactly a coverup, but there's white paint involved and Tom Sawyer is getting lots of takers to sling that brush for him.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (Hx0tZ)
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why hasn't Ghislaine Maxwell leveraged all the video she has of people having sex with kids to get herself out of prison?
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (1wjle)
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I don't know-know, I know!
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (g47mK)
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The explanation I heard from Benz makes most sense to me: Girls Juice Deals. Epstein was a deal-maker and money launderer, and dealt with the kind of trash that lives in that world. The girls were party-favors - not the subject of the deal. Incidental to the larger purpose.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (1wjle)
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Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:24 PM (1wjle)
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Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (iFTx/)
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How exactly would one prove that definitively?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (Riz8t)
Maybe you could train up Democrats to act as guinea pigs?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:25 PM (Riz8t)
Maybe you could train up Democrats to act as guinea pigs?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2026 04:30 PM (8zz6B)
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I mean, can someone explain that? Why are Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi now on the Epstein sex ring payroll?
Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
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I think one of the running theories is that the full truth of the matter would take down too much of DC (Which could mean too many GOPers with Congress too close to risk, or literally *too much* in that there wouldn't be enough left of federal or corporate America to keep things working). So, paraphrasing Jackstraw's (I think) words from a few months back, 'everyone who has a good look immediately nopes out.'
Just explain your theory about this. I want to hear ANY theory. Any one at all.
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I think one of the running theories is that the full truth of the matter would take down too much of DC (Which could mean too many GOPers with Congress too close to risk, or literally *too much* in that there wouldn't be enough left of federal or corporate America to keep things working). So, paraphrasing Jackstraw's (I think) words from a few months back, 'everyone who has a good look immediately nopes out.'
Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (vSvIl)
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Now, Epstein might sweeten this by being known to have lots of eye candy at his island.
And those girls might want to go because they get a chance to maybe become some rich guy's trophy wife. or get to live it up.
Tons of people do this all the time for rock stars and movie stars.
And those girls might want to go because they get a chance to maybe become some rich guy's trophy wife. or get to live it up.
Tons of people do this all the time for rock stars and movie stars.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (IuIym)
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Dear Penthouse Forum,
This one time at Elk Camp...
This one time at Elk Camp...
Posted by: My 14 year old self at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (NIB5L)
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It has all the classic signs of Russian collusion...
Posted by: The media we USED to watch
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Earmarks.
Posted by: The media we USED to watch
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Earmarks.
Posted by: wth at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (UjdFS)
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pharmaSockOFF
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (gH8T+)
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75 The explanation I heard from Benz makes most sense to me: Girls Juice Deals. Epstein was a deal-maker and money launderer, and dealt with the kind of trash that lives in that world. The girls were party-favors - not the subject of the deal. Incidental to the larger purpose.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
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I'm skeptical about this angle. This is common in industry as well because it is a form of exclusive and valued kickback -- the buyers "prefer" a certain supplier because they are feted. But the buyers are generally people who can not get those girls / diners / whatever on their own.
Bill Gates should have been able to walk through any building on his campus, pick a girl, fuck her in the break room, and then have HR and Legal pay off anyone around and cover his tracks. (Yeah, I kind of saw that too.)
He already had all the girls he wanted, so what did eppie provide?
Posted by: Frasier Crane
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I'm skeptical about this angle. This is common in industry as well because it is a form of exclusive and valued kickback -- the buyers "prefer" a certain supplier because they are feted. But the buyers are generally people who can not get those girls / diners / whatever on their own.
Bill Gates should have been able to walk through any building on his campus, pick a girl, fuck her in the break room, and then have HR and Legal pay off anyone around and cover his tracks. (Yeah, I kind of saw that too.)
He already had all the girls he wanted, so what did eppie provide?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (mymNa)
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>>I don't want to be a poopy head but running a sex ring where people paid him to have sex with kids is IMO not much different than providing an island where the rich and famous could go and have sex with kids and not get caught amounts to basically the same thing.
no but a more casual thing like I suggest would leave little evidence of it behind, which is, apparently what accords with the evidentiary record we have, which doesn't show that kind of a quid pro quo blackmail/extortion ring
no but a more casual thing like I suggest would leave little evidence of it behind, which is, apparently what accords with the evidentiary record we have, which doesn't show that kind of a quid pro quo blackmail/extortion ring
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (1wjle)
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Massie really though he'd ride this wave, thinking he's gaining real Dem support, all the way to reelection.
Hey, how'd turning on the party for Dem Facebook likes work for Cheney?
Hey, how'd turning on the party for Dem Facebook likes work for Cheney?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM (HXT0k)
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>>>1) Eptstein was an agent, whether CIA or Mossad
nah it was all totally for Russia, forget all the stuff he says about Israel, it was Russia
nah it was all totally for Russia, forget all the stuff he says about Israel, it was Russia
Posted by: MSM at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (jGJov)
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Here's a picture of a Dallas PD officer handing down the REAL murder weapon from the ROOFTOP of the TSBD.
Pay no attention to the fact that he's handing down a shotgun, not a rifle, which no one in the history of ever has claimed was the murder weapon, nor to the fact that the shotgun just so happens to be the exact make and model assigned to the Dallas PD.
Pay no attention to the fact that he's handing down a shotgun, not a rifle, which no one in the history of ever has claimed was the murder weapon, nor to the fact that the shotgun just so happens to be the exact make and model assigned to the Dallas PD.
Posted by: Delurker at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (gtcuf)
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Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
You and I went to very different car dealerships.
You and I went to very different car dealerships.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (Riz8t)
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Also, a few people like Crowder investigated if you actually could kill yourself the way Epstein did and found they you couldnt.
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No shit???
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No shit???
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (6rdCx)
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I'd still like to know why and who authorized Whitey Bulger to be moved from fed max to a minimum security prison and put into gen pop.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (Kw+Iy)
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> I mean, I get multiple calls when I try to wire $18K to a family member, and my savings and loan is generally pissed because they have to fill out paperwork
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (rbvCR)
I could tell you stories about trying to move a largish chunk of cash from one state to the other, even though I had all the paperwork in order -- sold a house in one state, was buying a house in another state. Damned near lost out on the house I was trying to buy (and/or failed to have the check at the closing) because moving the money took days.
It was the first time I'd ever done an interstate transfer of that size. I learned my lesson there.
I'm thinking that maybe because it was interstate the feds got their snoopy noses involved? I don't remember, this was around thirty years ago.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:16 PM (rbvCR)
I could tell you stories about trying to move a largish chunk of cash from one state to the other, even though I had all the paperwork in order -- sold a house in one state, was buying a house in another state. Damned near lost out on the house I was trying to buy (and/or failed to have the check at the closing) because moving the money took days.
It was the first time I'd ever done an interstate transfer of that size. I learned my lesson there.
I'm thinking that maybe because it was interstate the feds got their snoopy noses involved? I don't remember, this was around thirty years ago.
Posted by: Genghis Khan at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (IG3/x)
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A patient just now told me Trump was on the island eating babies with Epstein.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (W2Pud)
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"I don't want to be a poopy head but running a sex ring where people paid him to have sex with kids is IMO not much different than providing an island where the rich and famous could go and have sex with kids and not get caught amounts to basically the same thing."
the problem is they are not kids.
they are 18 or whatever.
the problem is they are not kids.
they are 18 or whatever.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:33 PM (IuIym)
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Having spent time on Wall Street I can tell you this is the MO for a lot of people. Epstein didn’t make the mold. He took what he learned at Bear Stearns advising wealthy people and parlayed it into an enterprise. There are a lot of people who make him look like an amateur. They all have the same formulations including people who “procure” participants in whatever needs to be done. They all cause the wealthy clients for the money. Period. This isn’t that hard.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 09, 2026 04:33 PM (xn33A)
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O/T and willowed from the post below:
While the world's eyes are on Arizona as the clock winds down on ransom deadline...I saw this youtube.
Musk and Trump are not playing about Greenland, if this turns out to be true. And I think it is plausable. We'll soon find out.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
While the world's eyes are on Arizona as the clock winds down on ransom deadline...I saw this youtube.
Musk and Trump are not playing about Greenland, if this turns out to be true. And I think it is plausable. We'll soon find out.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at February 09, 2026 04:33 PM (WONhk)
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>>Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
There's exactly One Universal Commodity.
And, roughly 50% of the population is born with it.
There's exactly One Universal Commodity.
And, roughly 50% of the population is born with it.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:33 PM (gH8T+)
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See also Matt Gaetz.
Some girl who wants to go the Bahamas with a rich dude will lie about her age.
Some girl who wants to go the Bahamas with a rich dude will lie about her age.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:33 PM (IuIym)
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Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
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I'm beginning to think you were Hunter S. Thompson's lawyer.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
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I'm beginning to think you were Hunter S. Thompson's lawyer.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (XvL8K)
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why hasn't Ghislaine Maxwell leveraged all the video she has of people having sex with kids to get herself out of prison?
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She may not have it. She did offer today to testify for an out of jail card.
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She may not have it. She did offer today to testify for an out of jail card.
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (6rdCx)
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"Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs."
That's why business travel is so "necessary," when Zoom would do just as well. Junkets.
That's why business travel is so "necessary," when Zoom would do just as well. Junkets.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (N8ZBc)
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>>.Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins
good point, guys. It is well known, among people like garrett, that you can strangle yourself with a necktie and a doorknob. Those claiming you couldn't do the same thing with a bedframe and bit of string are just, I don't know, talking shit.
The other thing I can't stand is when they go "hyoid bone! hyoid bone!"
And this goes back to ME's saying that usually in hangings, the hyoid bone isn't broken, but in strangulations it is.
But then they start leaving out that word "usually," and claim that no hangings EVER result in a broken hyoid bone.
Which is just false and why I just cannot deal.
good point, guys. It is well known, among people like garrett, that you can strangle yourself with a necktie and a doorknob. Those claiming you couldn't do the same thing with a bedframe and bit of string are just, I don't know, talking shit.
The other thing I can't stand is when they go "hyoid bone! hyoid bone!"
And this goes back to ME's saying that usually in hangings, the hyoid bone isn't broken, but in strangulations it is.
But then they start leaving out that word "usually," and claim that no hangings EVER result in a broken hyoid bone.
Which is just false and why I just cannot deal.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (1wjle)
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Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs. Hell, back in the day exotic car dealerships had piles of coke and hot young things sashaying all over the place.
You and I went to very different car dealerships.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (Riz8t)
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I was a kid. Some friends had very rich dads. I went a few times with them to Ferrari and Lambo dealerships. They barely hid what was going on.
You and I went to very different car dealerships.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (Riz8t)
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I was a kid. Some friends had very rich dads. I went a few times with them to Ferrari and Lambo dealerships. They barely hid what was going on.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:35 PM (iFTx/)
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>>> "No other victim has described being expressly directed by either Maxwell or Epstein to engage in sexual activity with other men," the memo said.
No direction.
It's about the tips and gratuities.
No direction.
It's about the tips and gratuities.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 09, 2026 04:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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I've got a list.
Hoo boy, have I got a fucking list...
Hoo boy, have I got a fucking list...
Posted by: Santa Claus at February 09, 2026 04:35 PM (gAuAm)
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88 >>>The explanation I heard from Benz makes most sense to me: Girls Juice Deals. Epstein was a deal-maker and money launderer, and dealt with the kind of trash that lives in that world. The girls were party-favors - not the subject of the deal. Incidental to the larger purpose.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
Posted by: ace
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Not that my take means much but I have read all the depositions from the Palm Beach days plus a lot of what has been revealed. I don't think that Epstein was himself an actual agent for any party but he was very useful as an IC asset. Benz had provided quite a bit of background on Epstein the trader at Bear Stearns and its relationship with BCCI. BCCI, for those not around in the 80's, was an IC dominated bank out of Pakistan that did all kinds of money laundering for the intel community.
Look up the Safari Club.
yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows. It wasn't a quid pro quo exactly. But people like people who do nice things for them, like introduce them to young girls who are for some reason very, very interested in 60 year old fat congressmen.
Posted by: ace
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Not that my take means much but I have read all the depositions from the Palm Beach days plus a lot of what has been revealed. I don't think that Epstein was himself an actual agent for any party but he was very useful as an IC asset. Benz had provided quite a bit of background on Epstein the trader at Bear Stearns and its relationship with BCCI. BCCI, for those not around in the 80's, was an IC dominated bank out of Pakistan that did all kinds of money laundering for the intel community.
Look up the Safari Club.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:35 PM (2swu2)
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used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
Posted by: gp
One of his clients was Radar O'Reilly.
used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
Posted by: gp
One of his clients was Radar O'Reilly.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2026 04:35 PM (Cqx++)
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I saw a couple of email exchanges on YT where Epstein and his correspondents used the phrase 'cheese pizza and grape soda' in strange contexts. There may be something there.
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There's so much trash and false info in the "files" passed around as "true 'cause it was in the Epstein files" that I now won't believe anything that comes out.
This bullshit process that Massie et al forced to release it all w/o actual safeguards has completely destroyed any chance of any legitimate prosecution.
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There's so much trash and false info in the "files" passed around as "true 'cause it was in the Epstein files" that I now won't believe anything that comes out.
This bullshit process that Massie et al forced to release it all w/o actual safeguards has completely destroyed any chance of any legitimate prosecution.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (HXT0k)
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The FBI also says it did not find blackmail photos or videos in the Epstein files.
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If you go back to news reported the day after Epstein was arrested (the second and most recent arrest) there are articles noting that a boat full of unidentified individuals arrived at Eptstein Island, stayed for approximately one day, and left. The FBI, at the time, confirmed that they did NOT have any personnel out on the island.
I'm not a big proponey of TheGatewayPundit. But, if you go back into their archives you will find a post documenting exactly what I stated above.
So, when I hear the FBI didn't find any blackmail photos or videos etc. I take it with a grain of salt, and still have no idea who those unidentified people were.
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If you go back to news reported the day after Epstein was arrested (the second and most recent arrest) there are articles noting that a boat full of unidentified individuals arrived at Eptstein Island, stayed for approximately one day, and left. The FBI, at the time, confirmed that they did NOT have any personnel out on the island.
I'm not a big proponey of TheGatewayPundit. But, if you go back into their archives you will find a post documenting exactly what I stated above.
So, when I hear the FBI didn't find any blackmail photos or videos etc. I take it with a grain of salt, and still have no idea who those unidentified people were.
Posted by: Orson at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (dIske)
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Okay.
So what was his job, then?
So what was his job, then?
Posted by: Dr Slam at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (58ypb)
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Oh. The FBI says. Well then.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (n4M+z)
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Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
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My personal thought is that the girls were paid personal help of epstein and maxwell. The ones that made waves were the ones that didn't get paid what they thought they were worth.
Let the conspiracies flow!
Let the conspiracies flow!
Posted by: Will Robinson at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (mo6hN)
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To be fair to the conspiracy believers, Epstein seems to have created fake folders and had that Clinton painting.
That definitely smells like blackmail.
I think some of these conspiracies are actually pretty decent - they are just missing a few things so they appear plausible.
And after Russia Hoax...
That definitely smells like blackmail.
I think some of these conspiracies are actually pretty decent - they are just missing a few things so they appear plausible.
And after Russia Hoax...
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (IuIym)
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This child-pimp and his bottom bitch both had ties to intelligence agencies. Well documented ones.
Whatever was going here, it's certainly not a good old fashioned down home child pimping scenario.
Whatever was going here, it's certainly not a good old fashioned down home child pimping scenario.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (BI5O2)
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>>Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (1wjle)
That was uncalled for.
I know you are upset that your GAINZ have fallen off and you no longer feel attractive.
But, the truth is that someone your height can never be attractive. It's simply against the Laws of Nature.
That was uncalled for.
I know you are upset that your GAINZ have fallen off and you no longer feel attractive.
But, the truth is that someone your height can never be attractive. It's simply against the Laws of Nature.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (gH8T+)
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Musk and Trump are not playing about Greenland, if this turns out to be true. And I think it is plausable. We'll soon find out.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
Big claims need big evidence, and I see none.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
Big claims need big evidence, and I see none.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (Riz8t)
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I have sent my kids away to church camps, are you saying that's bad? Not every overnight camp is a den of pedophilia. I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I know it does, I'm not naive. But there are many more camps that are wholesome and enriching for kids than there are that abuse them.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (VCgbV)
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I don't want to be a poopy head but running a sex ring where people paid him to have sex with kids is IMO not much different than providing an island where the rich and famous could go and have sex with kids and not get caught amounts to basically the same thing.
no but a more casual thing like I suggest would leave little evidence of it behind, which is, apparently what accords with the evidentiary record we have, which doesn't show that kind of a quid pro quo blackmail/extortion ring
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM
I agree with that, he was probably not extorting or blackmailing people he invited to his island to get their freak on.
Sort of like a billionaire who invites rich and famous people to his yacht for a week long cruise and he pays plenty of young nubile girls to entertain them.
no but a more casual thing like I suggest would leave little evidence of it behind, which is, apparently what accords with the evidentiary record we have, which doesn't show that kind of a quid pro quo blackmail/extortion ring
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:31 PM
I agree with that, he was probably not extorting or blackmailing people he invited to his island to get their freak on.
Sort of like a billionaire who invites rich and famous people to his yacht for a week long cruise and he pays plenty of young nubile girls to entertain them.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (0N4FZ)
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I’m waiting for Massie to say he will give up the names for a $10,000 campaign contribution, fully paid trip to Turks and a stuffed cupi doll.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (xn33A)
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> yeah that's what I think. Military contractors used to provide girls, by which I mean prostitutes, to generals and admirals and Congressmen at their weapons shows.
When I worked in a hotel as a young man, we had a convention of school superintendents. It was by far the rowdiest convention we had during my tenure.
All the major textbook companies had rooms with free booze and plenty of hot, easy-looking girls hanging around. I guess if you're selling expensive textbooks by the hundred or thousand lot, you can afford to sweeten the pot quite a bit.
I recall wondering what a supe would do if he recognized one of the book bimbos as a former student.
When I worked in a hotel as a young man, we had a convention of school superintendents. It was by far the rowdiest convention we had during my tenure.
All the major textbook companies had rooms with free booze and plenty of hot, easy-looking girls hanging around. I guess if you're selling expensive textbooks by the hundred or thousand lot, you can afford to sweeten the pot quite a bit.
I recall wondering what a supe would do if he recognized one of the book bimbos as a former student.
Posted by: Genghis Khan at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (IG3/x)
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No shit???
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (6rdCx)/i]
Epstein didn't have an overhang to use to properly hang himself.
The argument from the prison was that he fashioned a rope from his sheets, then tired it to his bed, that angled himself so that created enough tension to choke himself and break his hyoid bone.
Essentially if you can't hang from something above you it makes things way harder to do.
Crowder tried it and couldn't get enough force to break the hyoid bone and the other problem is you had to push to generate the needed tension so when you pass out you lose the tension which means you won't die.
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:32 PM (6rdCx)/i]
Epstein didn't have an overhang to use to properly hang himself.
The argument from the prison was that he fashioned a rope from his sheets, then tired it to his bed, that angled himself so that created enough tension to choke himself and break his hyoid bone.
Essentially if you can't hang from something above you it makes things way harder to do.
Crowder tried it and couldn't get enough force to break the hyoid bone and the other problem is you had to push to generate the needed tension so when you pass out you lose the tension which means you won't die.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (sKqQm)
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Is there a downside to pursuing the Epstein pedo investigation? Is it case closed, even with some evidence still unreleased? Is there a sighificant opportunity cost to continuing to look?
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (N8ZBc)
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You don’t go out of your way to involve people like Bill Gates just because you think they’re fun to be around. He wanted something.
Posted by: Maroon at February 09, 2026 04:17 PM (KhBND)
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Maybe Epstein had a fetish for man boobs.
/I agree with you ...
Posted by: Maroon at February 09, 2026 04:17 PM (KhBND)
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Maybe Epstein had a fetish for man boobs.
/I agree with you ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (nuyMR)
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Prosecutors better hope that I am never on a jury where the FBI is testifying. I firmly believe that the FBI exists for only two purposes, protecting Bolsheviks and billionaires, and framing innocent people.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (n4M+z)
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152 Everything is sold with girls and parties and drugs.
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Is this why my peanut brittle business failed?
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Is this why my peanut brittle business failed?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (mymNa)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (Vvh2V)
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>>>
If you go back to news reported the day after Epstein was arrested (the second and most recent arrest) there are articles noting that a boat full of unidentified individuals arrived at Eptstein Island, stayed for approximately one day, and left. The FBI, at the time, confirmed that they did NOT have any personnel out on the island.
I'm not a big proponey of TheGatewayPundit. But, if you go back into their archives you will find a post documenting exactly what I stated above.
So, when I hear the FBI didn't find any blackmail photos or videos etc. I take it with a grain of salt, and still have no idea who those unidentified people were.
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I think we are operating on different premises here. You are arguing that there MAY BE evidence we cannot ever see. Okay, fine: Then what do we do with that?
I'm not the kind of person who makes decisions based on hypothetical evidence which MAY exist but I cannot see.
Should I convict Kash Patel and Dan Bongino on the basis of this hypothetical evidence which MAY exist but which they can't see?
If you go back to news reported the day after Epstein was arrested (the second and most recent arrest) there are articles noting that a boat full of unidentified individuals arrived at Eptstein Island, stayed for approximately one day, and left. The FBI, at the time, confirmed that they did NOT have any personnel out on the island.
I'm not a big proponey of TheGatewayPundit. But, if you go back into their archives you will find a post documenting exactly what I stated above.
So, when I hear the FBI didn't find any blackmail photos or videos etc. I take it with a grain of salt, and still have no idea who those unidentified people were.
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I think we are operating on different premises here. You are arguing that there MAY BE evidence we cannot ever see. Okay, fine: Then what do we do with that?
I'm not the kind of person who makes decisions based on hypothetical evidence which MAY exist but I cannot see.
Should I convict Kash Patel and Dan Bongino on the basis of this hypothetical evidence which MAY exist but which they can't see?
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (1wjle)
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>>>We know at least 20 men are implicated in the files."
He's being hysterical. Like the harridans on The View.
He's being hysterical. Like the harridans on The View.
Posted by: m at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (+YA9H)
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (g47mK)
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"One of his clients was Radar O'Reilly."
One correspondent was Epstein's urologist, the other was Larry Fink.
One correspondent was Epstein's urologist, the other was Larry Fink.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (N8ZBc)
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It was Comet Pizza. Not Comet Bagel. Tucker should go look into the Vatican.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (BI5O2)
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"I always get weirded out when my friends let their kids go on vacations with other people.
I know it can be innocuous...but, damn.
When my friend tells me his 14 yr old kid is at Elk Camp with his Youth Pastor/ Boyscout Troop Leader, I get nervous for that kid."
LOL. Agreed.
But in my example its an adult.
Its like Bill Clinton being asked to go by Epstein.
I know it can be innocuous...but, damn.
When my friend tells me his 14 yr old kid is at Elk Camp with his Youth Pastor/ Boyscout Troop Leader, I get nervous for that kid."
LOL. Agreed.
But in my example its an adult.
Its like Bill Clinton being asked to go by Epstein.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (IuIym)
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Bill Gates should have been able to walk through any building on his campus, pick a girl, fuck her in the break room, and then have HR and Legal pay off anyone around and cover his tracks. (Yeah, I kind of saw that too.)
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Bill was dipping it in the company ink well. Thats how be met mrs gates. Once she got married, she talked to HR and Bill was not allowed to be alone in a room with a young female.
Which is how he eventually winds up with VD from a Russian girl....
The more you know....
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Bill was dipping it in the company ink well. Thats how be met mrs gates. Once she got married, she talked to HR and Bill was not allowed to be alone in a room with a young female.
Which is how he eventually winds up with VD from a Russian girl....
The more you know....
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (6rdCx)
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Another interesting thing I ran across in some of the released evidence is that Epstein had odd photos on his walls - you can see the people's bodies in unusual positions.
No explanation has been identified as to what they are - powerful people in embarrassing positions? Victims?
No explanation has been identified as to what they are - powerful people in embarrassing positions? Victims?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (sKqQm)
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We know Epstein sent $75,000 to Mandelson, even if Mandelson "can't remember" if he received that sum or not, and another ten thousand pounds to his husband."
There is more than one thing wrong with this sentence
There is more than one thing wrong with this sentence
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (NtVYv)
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How about that nasty shit parasite Reid Hoffman--a known frequent guest of Jeffery, solely for the sex treats--and Soros funding the SB ad ... against Trump over this?
"Where are the rest of the files, huh?! What are you hiding?!!"
And all the dick chuggers at the Man-Boy Lincoln Project were slapping their puds in glee over it.
"Where are the rest of the files, huh?! What are you hiding?!!"
And all the dick chuggers at the Man-Boy Lincoln Project were slapping their puds in glee over it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (HXT0k)
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or maybe Larry Fish. Not sure.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (N8ZBc)
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I never thought of it as a brothel but has a blackmail operation. My actual epstein file reading is zero however. But those rich and powerful men weren't hanging with him for nothing. He provided girls for them, I don't know what he got in return.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (n5tGW)
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I have a Liszt
Posted by: Franz at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (gAuAm)
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Kentucky's primary is in May. Massie is being primaried by Ed Gallrein who is a Shelby County farmer and retired Navy SEAL.
Please vote Massie out.
I have a feeling he's never going to leave and will run as an independent. Shades of Lisa Murkowski.
We can't seem to get rid of these backstabbers.
Please vote Massie out.
I have a feeling he's never going to leave and will run as an independent. Shades of Lisa Murkowski.
We can't seem to get rid of these backstabbers.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (NpAcC)
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Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins
good point, guys. It is well known, among people like garrett, that you can strangle yourself with a necktie and a doorknob. Those claiming you couldn't do the same thing with a bedframe and bit of string are just, I don't know, talking shit.
The other thing I can't stand is when they go "hyoid bone! hyoid bone!"
And this goes back to ME's saying that usually in hangings, the hyoid bone isn't broken, but in strangulations it is.
But then they start leaving out that word "usually," and claim that no hangings EVER result in a broken hyoid bone.
Which is just false and why I just cannot deal.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (1wjle)
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I don't know if Carradine and Hutchins are the best examples. Carradine hung himself the old fashioned way. Hutchins was so fucking stoned out of his mind he probably woulda ODed anyway, which makes it that much easier to strangle yourself.
I don't know what to make of the claims that Epstein couldn't have killed himself the way he did.
good point, guys. It is well known, among people like garrett, that you can strangle yourself with a necktie and a doorknob. Those claiming you couldn't do the same thing with a bedframe and bit of string are just, I don't know, talking shit.
The other thing I can't stand is when they go "hyoid bone! hyoid bone!"
And this goes back to ME's saying that usually in hangings, the hyoid bone isn't broken, but in strangulations it is.
But then they start leaving out that word "usually," and claim that no hangings EVER result in a broken hyoid bone.
Which is just false and why I just cannot deal.
Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:34 PM (1wjle)
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I don't know if Carradine and Hutchins are the best examples. Carradine hung himself the old fashioned way. Hutchins was so fucking stoned out of his mind he probably woulda ODed anyway, which makes it that much easier to strangle yourself.
I don't know what to make of the claims that Epstein couldn't have killed himself the way he did.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (iFTx/)
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This is one of those can o'worms type deals.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:41 PM (36PRH)
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So what, exactly, is Maxwell in prison for, if not for trafficking underage girls?
And I guess the idea, then is that Epstein was in jail for simply being a pedo himself?
And I guess the idea, then is that Epstein was in jail for simply being a pedo himself?
Posted by: MrExcitement at February 09, 2026 04:41 PM (ovdkm)
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Let's go back to Massie. What is he hiding?!
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:41 PM (g47mK)
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>>I have sent my kids away to church camps, are you saying that's bad? Not every overnight camp is a den of pedophilia. I'm not saying it doesn't happen because I know it does, I'm not naive. But there are many more camps that are wholesome and enriching for kids than there are that abuse them.
Yes.
There is no safe Camp, School, Scout Group or Sports Team.
Yes.
There is no safe Camp, School, Scout Group or Sports Team.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:41 PM (gH8T+)
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Crowder tried it and couldn't get enough force to break the hyoid bone and the other problem is you had to push to generate the needed tension so when you pass out you lose the tension which means you won't die.
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Dont try it at home buddy. You lean forward and not over and you dont lose tension. You just die. We know.
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Dont try it at home buddy. You lean forward and not over and you dont lose tension. You just die. We know.
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:42 PM (6rdCx)
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An intel asset is kind of like a criminal informer for the Feebs. They may in fact be criminals, like Whitey Bulger, and their handlers can go so far as to cover up crimes their CI did in Mass for teh alleged greater good. Mueller got dirtied in that particular op and the FBI handler ended up going to prison over it. Three innocent guys were named for a murder that Whitey's gang committed and went to prison for it resulting in a huge settlement of the lawsuit when it came out.
For the IC folks, an asset is someone not an employee but useful for advancing missions (like untraceable money laundering, providing information to agents, connections as to get close to someone for actions by a real agent, or to influence others to play ball via recruitment etc. for the true agents. Most informed speculation on IC matters have pointed at Epstein as a financier and an asset of influence.
If there was an agent handler, that would probably be Ghislaine as her dad was definitely one to the extent that through his publishing of Breznev's books in the West, Robert Maxwell got up to private chats with Breznev for MI-6 that the KGB actively fought against. Ghislaine grew up in the life.
For the IC folks, an asset is someone not an employee but useful for advancing missions (like untraceable money laundering, providing information to agents, connections as to get close to someone for actions by a real agent, or to influence others to play ball via recruitment etc. for the true agents. Most informed speculation on IC matters have pointed at Epstein as a financier and an asset of influence.
If there was an agent handler, that would probably be Ghislaine as her dad was definitely one to the extent that through his publishing of Breznev's books in the West, Robert Maxwell got up to private chats with Breznev for MI-6 that the KGB actively fought against. Ghislaine grew up in the life.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:42 PM (2swu2)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:42 PM (abIsI)
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We may never know the truth, they vowed.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 09, 2026 04:43 PM (n4M+z)
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Unfortunately, healthy skepticism about our government agencies has turned into disbelief, disrespect, and distrust. They have only themselves to blame-but they won’t.
Posted by: Unkaren at February 09, 2026 04:43 PM (cDrfF)
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181 It was Comet Pizza. Not Comet Bagel. Tucker should go look into the Vatican.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (BI5O2)
I looked it up today for a refresher on the names.
"Comet Ping Pong Pizza" is the full name.
I'd thought it was "Cosmic Pizza" for some reason.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 09, 2026 04:39 PM (BI5O2)
I looked it up today for a refresher on the names.
"Comet Ping Pong Pizza" is the full name.
I'd thought it was "Cosmic Pizza" for some reason.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 09, 2026 04:43 PM (6ydKt)
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I don't know if Carradine and Hutchins are the best examples. Carradine hung himself the old fashioned way. Hutchins was so fucking stoned out of his mind he probably woulda ODed anyway, which makes it that much easier to strangle yourself.
I don't know what to make of the claims that Epstein couldn't have killed himself the way he did.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (iFTx/)
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Anthony Bourdain supposedly hung himself.
I don't know if Carradine and Hutchins are the best examples. Carradine hung himself the old fashioned way. Hutchins was so fucking stoned out of his mind he probably woulda ODed anyway, which makes it that much easier to strangle yourself.
I don't know what to make of the claims that Epstein couldn't have killed himself the way he did.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 09, 2026 04:40 PM (iFTx/)
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Anthony Bourdain supposedly hung himself.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:43 PM (36PRH)
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@201 And not Mystic Pizza
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:44 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:44 PM (abIsI)
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"Unfortunately, healthy skepticism about our government agencies has turned into disbelief, disrespect, and distrust."
For some. For some others, after only 12 month of our guys in control, the govt is now believed without skepticism. Crooked govt is a distant memory.
For some. For some others, after only 12 month of our guys in control, the govt is now believed without skepticism. Crooked govt is a distant memory.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:44 PM (N8ZBc)
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We know as much as they tell us. The rest we just have to make up, or speculate over, to put it more nicely.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 04:44 PM (pDt9x)
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I don't have any evidence that the dogeater ate more than his share of sausages either but I'm pretty sure it's true.
Posted by: fd at February 09, 2026 04:44 PM (vFG9F)
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"The 72-year-old actor was found by a hotel maid on the morning of June 4, slumped in a closet in his suite"
Carradine was not a traditional hanging. He was seated. Rope also around his genitals.
Carradine was not a traditional hanging. He was seated. Rope also around his genitals.
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (6rdCx)
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184 Another interesting thing I ran across in some of the released evidence is that Epstein had odd photos on his walls - you can see the people's bodies in unusual positions.
No explanation has been identified as to what they are - powerful people in embarrassing positions? Victims?
Posted by: 18-1
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So did one of the Podestas, as did Jamie Lee Curtis seen in one such backdrop of an interview. Our elites are sick bastards by and large. But I think they hung with Epstein because he was a sick bastard too rather than being blackmailed by it.
No explanation has been identified as to what they are - powerful people in embarrassing positions? Victims?
Posted by: 18-1
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So did one of the Podestas, as did Jamie Lee Curtis seen in one such backdrop of an interview. Our elites are sick bastards by and large. But I think they hung with Epstein because he was a sick bastard too rather than being blackmailed by it.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (2swu2)
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I think I saw this story over at Insty.
Some couple in SF had a tech start-up way back when. And they had annual parties that all the techies would go to.
Well, they sold their start up; no real reason to keep having them.
But the Chinese showed up and paid them to continue to have the annual parties.
And they couldn't understand in the least why the Chinese were so eager to pay them to have these parties.
Where techies would get drunk around Chinese national techies also "invited."
They just thought they were fun people and everyone liked their parties.
That was Epstein on a bigger scale.
Some couple in SF had a tech start-up way back when. And they had annual parties that all the techies would go to.
Well, they sold their start up; no real reason to keep having them.
But the Chinese showed up and paid them to continue to have the annual parties.
And they couldn't understand in the least why the Chinese were so eager to pay them to have these parties.
Where techies would get drunk around Chinese national techies also "invited."
They just thought they were fun people and everyone liked their parties.
That was Epstein on a bigger scale.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (HXT0k)
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I think Robin Williams hanged himself that way in the closet they found him in.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (6ydKt)
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Ok so here is a potential way to look at how possible it was for Epstein to kill himself that way - how many people do we have a record of doing so outside of him?
Not hanging from above, not high/ODing. How many people on record have managed to kill themselves with just a rope and a bedframe on the floor next to them?
Not hanging from above, not high/ODing. How many people on record have managed to kill themselves with just a rope and a bedframe on the floor next to them?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (sKqQm)
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Walter Kirn: You'd better read this: The Jeff Epstein saga isn't a scandal about pedophilia, it's about a Russian word called 'blat,' a Soviet-era word meaning 'the use of personal networks for obtaining goods and services in short supply and for circumventing formal procedures.' It's about a kind of government.
https://x.com/walterkirn/status/
2018511373320536571
https://x.com/walterkirn/status/
2018511373320536571
Posted by: KT at February 09, 2026 04:45 PM (7vIsy)
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There is video we have not seen and will never see. It is impossible for that to not be true.
Posted by: fd at February 09, 2026 04:46 PM (vFG9F)
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I'll say it again -- I read those "pizza" references from way back, and it sure as hell sounded like simple drug code.
This was very common for a long while. You never said pot, coke, etc. or gram, ounce, etc.... you had a substitute vocabulary that everyone understood.
This was very common for a long while. You never said pot, coke, etc. or gram, ounce, etc.... you had a substitute vocabulary that everyone understood.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 09, 2026 04:46 PM (mymNa)
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190 Kentucky's primary is in May. Massie is being primaried by Ed Gallrein who is a Shelby County farmer and retired Navy SEAL.
Please vote Massie out.
I have a feeling he's never going to leave and will run as an independent. Shades of Lisa Murkowski.
We can't seem to get rid of these backstabbers.
Posted by: redridinghood
Scuttlebutt was that Massie announced his coming out as a Dem in an earlier thread.
Please vote Massie out.
I have a feeling he's never going to leave and will run as an independent. Shades of Lisa Murkowski.
We can't seem to get rid of these backstabbers.
Posted by: redridinghood
Scuttlebutt was that Massie announced his coming out as a Dem in an earlier thread.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (2swu2)
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The ones that made waves were the ones that didn't get paid what they thought they were worth.
Let the conspiracies flow!
Posted by: Will Robinson
It is tradition in the hospitality industry for a cut of the tips to be sent to the bartender and kitchen.
Let the conspiracies flow!
Posted by: Will Robinson
It is tradition in the hospitality industry for a cut of the tips to be sent to the bartender and kitchen.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (/lPRQ)
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Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
Mark Levin says we should stop discussing Epstein's activities, and that investigating child trafficking is distracting us from the important things like invading Iran and Arab countries
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
Mark Levin says we should stop discussing Epstein's activities, and that investigating child trafficking is distracting us from the important things like invading Iran and Arab countries
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR)
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@184 Kama Sutra? Didn't he have a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (36PRH)
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Posted by: ace at February 09, 2026 04:38 PM (1wjle)
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Sure, there's evidence that will never be seen. Take a closer look at Epstein's first arrest back in 2008. He had like 13 charges against him laboriously put together by Palm Beach Police. Then, the Feds stepped in and dropped all but two of the lesser crimes in days. They, ALSO, gave him a NPA (Non-Prosecution Agreement) despite Epstein having no leverage. They didn't even tell the victims that they agreed to that (which is very rare).
Then, he was only sentenced to a half-way house with no records showing he even showed up.
Occam's Razor suggests a deal to provide something to the Feds (or alphabet agency) in exchange for the dropped charges (Alexander Acosta gave him that deal for some reason).
I don't think Epstein or Maxwell had any sort of list. I think they got assignments from a federal agency sporadically. And, the hosting of public officials, politicians and celebrities was to create a sense of being untouchable used to convince the marks that it was safe for them to accept the invitations, and those are ones who were blackmailed.
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Sure, there's evidence that will never be seen. Take a closer look at Epstein's first arrest back in 2008. He had like 13 charges against him laboriously put together by Palm Beach Police. Then, the Feds stepped in and dropped all but two of the lesser crimes in days. They, ALSO, gave him a NPA (Non-Prosecution Agreement) despite Epstein having no leverage. They didn't even tell the victims that they agreed to that (which is very rare).
Then, he was only sentenced to a half-way house with no records showing he even showed up.
Occam's Razor suggests a deal to provide something to the Feds (or alphabet agency) in exchange for the dropped charges (Alexander Acosta gave him that deal for some reason).
I don't think Epstein or Maxwell had any sort of list. I think they got assignments from a federal agency sporadically. And, the hosting of public officials, politicians and celebrities was to create a sense of being untouchable used to convince the marks that it was safe for them to accept the invitations, and those are ones who were blackmailed.
Posted by: Orson at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (dIske)
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"There is video we have not seen and will never see. It is impossible for that to not be true."
If it's on BetaMax, we're really screwed.
If it's on BetaMax, we're really screwed.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (N8ZBc)
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Explain what the code “beef jerky” means.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (dhHpw)
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I suggest a look at the documents just released will indicate that, yes, Epstein provided sex toys of all ages to the rich and powerful.
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd)
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219 @184 Kama Sutra? Didn't he have a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (36PRH)
Yes.
The blue Monica Lewinsky dress to be exact.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (36PRH)
Yes.
The blue Monica Lewinsky dress to be exact.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 09, 2026 04:48 PM (6ydKt)
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"you had a substitute vocabulary that everyone understood"
In the 1980s, we had 'can of motor oil' for 'gram of coke.' Not joking.
In the 1980s, we had 'can of motor oil' for 'gram of coke.' Not joking.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:49 PM (N8ZBc)
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I mean, there is a lot we can infer about what Jeffrey Epstein was and what his main job was, I think he started out as an asset that could make bad paper go away and who could hide and acquire money in the time before the internet, he then morphed into an asset the ic could use to monitor and control the aspects of finance, tech and certain echelons of royalty and Hollywood.
The child pedo stuff may have been reserved for him and select members who were into that sort of thing.
But I think his main purpose post, say 2006 was, the same thing that Carter Page was used for, Epstein is talking to these people, they can now be surveiled by the LE/IC.
Again, his story starts by being hired by Donald Barr, his story ends with him dying in prison run by Bill Barr.
That not irony. That's something else.
The child pedo stuff may have been reserved for him and select members who were into that sort of thing.
But I think his main purpose post, say 2006 was, the same thing that Carter Page was used for, Epstein is talking to these people, they can now be surveiled by the LE/IC.
Again, his story starts by being hired by Donald Barr, his story ends with him dying in prison run by Bill Barr.
That not irony. That's something else.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2026 04:49 PM (Kw+Iy)
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Here are the 20 names on the Massie Epstein List:
Bill Clinton
Billy Jeff Clinton
B. Clinton
William Clinton
William Jefferson Clinton
Big Boy Bill Clinton
President W.J. Clinton, etc, etc, etc.
Bill Clinton
Billy Jeff Clinton
B. Clinton
William Clinton
William Jefferson Clinton
Big Boy Bill Clinton
President W.J. Clinton, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by: The Names at February 09, 2026 04:49 PM (Ksqrb)
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:49 PM (gH8T+)
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>>>I have long said that 90% of the reporting and rumor-mongering on Epstein was wrong because it didn't jive with how this works in the real world.
Did someone say jive?
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Did someone say jive?
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: zombie barbara billingsley at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (Y1sOo)
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And, I'm sorry, the FBI is not a credible source...if it ever was, it is no longer. The delays and covering for Epstein and his island were pretty damn blatant.
I suspect Epstein was useful to the IC and he was used by them.
I suspect Epstein was useful to the IC and he was used by them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (xcxpd)
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This whole Epstein horseshit needs to just go away.. it's distracting from shit that actually matters
I think Congress knows less than we do
I think Congress knows less than we do
Posted by: melodicmetal at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (XLfSN)
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To repeat:
Neither Epstein nor any of his buddies were, technically, "pedophiles."
What they were was "epheobophiles"
There is a big difference.
Just to get everyone caught up on the terminology:
Pedophilia -- attraction PRE-PUBESCENT children (i.e. ages 0 - ~11).
Hebephila — attraction to PUBESCENT and EARLY ADOLESCENT children (i.e. ages ~12 - ~14).
Ephobophilia -- attraction to ADOLESCENT people (i.e. ages ~15 - ~1.
Look it up if you don't believe me.
I've never seen any proof, evidence or even suggestion that Epstein went for pre-pubescent children, or even that he went after 12/13-years olds. It has only ever been alleged that he went after, basically, teenage girls.
Yes, it's illegal (in most jurisdictions), and it's considered morally wrong to seduce a minor, but the level of ephebophilia's immorality in our culture is considered much less than it is for actual pedophilia.
The majority of adult males are capable of being attracted to a teenage girl, if she's mature-enough looking. People are acting like Epstein's actions are grotesquely perverted, but every rock song about "jailbait" says otherwise.
Neither Epstein nor any of his buddies were, technically, "pedophiles."
What they were was "epheobophiles"
There is a big difference.
Just to get everyone caught up on the terminology:
Pedophilia -- attraction PRE-PUBESCENT children (i.e. ages 0 - ~11).
Hebephila — attraction to PUBESCENT and EARLY ADOLESCENT children (i.e. ages ~12 - ~14).
Ephobophilia -- attraction to ADOLESCENT people (i.e. ages ~15 - ~1
.
Look it up if you don't believe me.
I've never seen any proof, evidence or even suggestion that Epstein went for pre-pubescent children, or even that he went after 12/13-years olds. It has only ever been alleged that he went after, basically, teenage girls.
Yes, it's illegal (in most jurisdictions), and it's considered morally wrong to seduce a minor, but the level of ephebophilia's immorality in our culture is considered much less than it is for actual pedophilia.
The majority of adult males are capable of being attracted to a teenage girl, if she's mature-enough looking. People are acting like Epstein's actions are grotesquely perverted, but every rock song about "jailbait" says otherwise.
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (se8lQ)
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (N8ZBc)
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So did one of the Podestas, as did Jamie Lee Curtis seen in one such backdrop of an interview. Our elites are sick bastards by and large. But I think they hung with Epstein because he was a sick bastard too rather than being blackmailed by it.
I remember the Curtis one - she had a photo by Betsy Schneider of a naked pre-teen girl on her wall and it was noticed when she posted a picture of her office with it on the wall.
Obviously as we see in the art threads here art is a very individual thing but why would you want a naked picture of someone's kid on your wall?
I remember the Curtis one - she had a photo by Betsy Schneider of a naked pre-teen girl on her wall and it was noticed when she posted a picture of her office with it on the wall.
Obviously as we see in the art threads here art is a very individual thing but why would you want a naked picture of someone's kid on your wall?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (sKqQm)
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@227
Also "Flex Jefferson"
Also "Flex Jefferson"
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (36PRH)
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zombie Johnson is right!
Posted by: fd at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (vFG9F)
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Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (g47mK)
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"223 I suggest a look at the documents just released will indicate that, yes, Epstein provided sex toys of all ages to the rich and powerful.
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd) "
at this point, knowing what we know, why not?
amorality doesn't really come with any intrinsic limits ...
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd) "
at this point, knowing what we know, why not?
amorality doesn't really come with any intrinsic limits ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (Cjt/F)
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Fun facts about the Epstein doc drop...the phrase 'pizza' appears 911 times often in strange contexts that does not correspond to dropping by Dominos.
#PizzaGate is a smear to cover up real shady shit.
#PizzaGate is a smear to cover up real shady shit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (se8lQ)
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Well, if one three-letter agency of the government releases a report exonerating other three-letter agencies of criminal conduct, that settles it for me.
Posted by: bear with asymmetric balls at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (wCQ1m)
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238 "223 I suggest a look at the documents just released will indicate that, yes, Epstein provided sex toys of all ages to the rich and powerful.
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd) "
at this point, knowing what we know, why not?
amorality doesn't really come with any intrinsic limits ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (Cjt/F)
He seems to have been into a lot of weird stuff. Like him commenting about how much enjoyed 'torture videos'
Hell I've heard it credibly suggested that he might even be into human jerky.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd) "
at this point, knowing what we know, why not?
amorality doesn't really come with any intrinsic limits ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (Cjt/F)
He seems to have been into a lot of weird stuff. Like him commenting about how much enjoyed 'torture videos'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Ugh, -- misspellked the main word of my comment:
What they were was "epheobophiles"
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What they were was "ephebophiles"
What they were was "epheobophiles"
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What they were was "ephebophiles"
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2026 04:52 PM (se8lQ)
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Now, if you really want to reach out and poke the hornets' nest, lets ask about the "unaccompanied minors" that Homan has been rescuing in the US, and who had them and for what use.
Yeah, I think that's got a strong likelihood of being the actual scandal that people think Epstein is.
Yeah, I think that's got a strong likelihood of being the actual scandal that people think Epstein is.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 09, 2026 04:52 PM (2ocoG)
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This is hard for many people to accept, in part because they can't see girls selling themselves like that. But there are many many girls who can and do. Eagerly.
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The same party that laughed about "drag a $100 bill through a trailer park and you never know what you'll catch" is the same party that now wants you to believe these poor, poor girls were forced--forced, I tell you!--to have sex with the world's richest and most powerful.
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The same party that laughed about "drag a $100 bill through a trailer park and you never know what you'll catch" is the same party that now wants you to believe these poor, poor girls were forced--forced, I tell you!--to have sex with the world's richest and most powerful.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (HXT0k)
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Anthony Bourdain supposedly hung himself.
I hung myself and shot myself with a shotgun found thirty feet away.
I hung myself and shot myself with a shotgun found thirty feet away.
Posted by: Clinton Connection Mark Middleton at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (R8Lmn)
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2008. He had like 13 charges against him laboriously put together by Palm Beach Police. Then, the Feds stepped in and dropped all but two of the lesser crimes in days. They, ALSO, gave him a NPA (Non-Prosecution Agreement) despite Epstein having no leverage
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Yep. And the fed lawyer said it was an IC issue. Alex acosta. Then he winds up dead in max. Cameras not working for years. The oops here they are!! The wait there is a missing minute. Then sorry here it is!. Then who is the unidentified person walking on the tier wearing orange? There is some something up. I dont know how security classifications go but i wouldnt be surprised if they could absolutely bury things for 50 years. From everyone. Including successors.
==
Yep. And the fed lawyer said it was an IC issue. Alex acosta. Then he winds up dead in max. Cameras not working for years. The oops here they are!! The wait there is a missing minute. Then sorry here it is!. Then who is the unidentified person walking on the tier wearing orange? There is some something up. I dont know how security classifications go but i wouldnt be surprised if they could absolutely bury things for 50 years. From everyone. Including successors.
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (6rdCx)
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Explain what the code “beef jerky” means.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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The explanation I saw for that was that Epstein went nuts on some keto fad, and was truly obsessed with it. I guess that could be plausible. No idea.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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The explanation I saw for that was that Epstein went nuts on some keto fad, and was truly obsessed with it. I guess that could be plausible. No idea.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (XvL8K)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (RIvkX)
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i think we should conduct our own independent investigation
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (N8ZBc)
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I’d bet you could have the (fill in the name) files for just about any tycoon. And you’d have 1000 names associated with him. Does it mean those 1000 people did everything that tycoon did? Powerful people know other powerful people and associate with them. If one’s a pedo, it doesn’t mean every one they ever said hi to is also a pedo. The whole premise has always been silly.
But it’s out there now and the conspiracies are already next level in sanity. It’s like everyone on Twitter is Candace Owens now.
But it’s out there now and the conspiracies are already next level in sanity. It’s like everyone on Twitter is Candace Owens now.
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:54 PM (y6810)
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166 Musk and Trump are not playing about Greenland, if this turns out to be true. And I think it is plausable. We'll soon find out.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
Big claims need big evidence, and I see none.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (Riz8t)
....................................
Agree. And I said IF it turns out to be true as a disclaimer. I found it interesting since all the news for one week has been Arizona.
Everything on this video is from the last 6wks or so of quiet meetings. Obviously if true it will come out if negotiations flop like the EU appears to be flopping.
Something to watch, at any rate.
https://tinyurl.com/3rburfyd
Big claims need big evidence, and I see none.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2026 04:37 PM (Riz8t)
....................................
Agree. And I said IF it turns out to be true as a disclaimer. I found it interesting since all the news for one week has been Arizona.
Everything on this video is from the last 6wks or so of quiet meetings. Obviously if true it will come out if negotiations flop like the EU appears to be flopping.
Something to watch, at any rate.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at February 09, 2026 04:54 PM (WONhk)
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This is the same FBI telling us there's nothing to see here that just "discovered" a "device" on grandma Guthrie's roof AFTER THE NEIGHBOR TOLD THEM they should look up there. Liars and clowns.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:54 PM (abIsI)
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Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (g47mK)
Sadly, no I’m not.
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (g47mK)
Sadly, no I’m not.
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (y6810)
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>>>I have long said that 90% of the reporting and rumor-mongering on Epstein was wrong because it didn't jive with how this works in the real world.
Did someone say jive?
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: zombie barbara billingsley at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (Y1sOo)
Golly!
Did someone say jive?
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: zombie barbara billingsley at February 09, 2026 04:50 PM (Y1sOo)
Golly!
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (wVcYX)
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I suggest a look at the documents just released will indicate that, yes, Epstein provided sex toys of all ages to the rich and powerful.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd)
He may have been farming high-level and powerful contacts, but he was doing so in part by providing access to children for sex, and it appears that is why many explicitlty were pursuing contacts with Epstein, especially post indictments.
Phrase it however you want. We know so much to be true. It was fine with TPTB and their elite handlers in the IC, until it wasn't.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (xcxpd)
He may have been farming high-level and powerful contacts, but he was doing so in part by providing access to children for sex, and it appears that is why many explicitlty were pursuing contacts with Epstein, especially post indictments.
Phrase it however you want. We know so much to be true. It was fine with TPTB and their elite handlers in the IC, until it wasn't.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (xgA6p)
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Scuttlebutt was that Massie announced his coming out as a Dem in an earlier thread.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (2swu2)
*******
Jesse Brewer, Elizabeth Mason-Hill, and Melissa Strange are running in the Democrat primary.
I guess the Democrats are happy they have a Dem running in Republican primary.
They've got all their bases covered.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 04:47 PM (2swu2)
*******
Jesse Brewer, Elizabeth Mason-Hill, and Melissa Strange are running in the Democrat primary.
I guess the Democrats are happy they have a Dem running in Republican primary.
They've got all their bases covered.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (NpAcC)
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Again, as we have seen over and over in the past 20 years...what was a 'conspiracy theory' is frequently shown to just be a spoiler warning 20 years later.
I have more faith in nutjobs than in our "elites". Their track record is better.
Alex Jones lies less than the Media or the FBI.
I have more faith in nutjobs than in our "elites". Their track record is better.
Alex Jones lies less than the Media or the FBI.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (xcxpd)
260
Just got an email that the new Olympians LP is shipping out today.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (gH8T+)
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Fun facts about the Epstein doc drop...the phrase 'pizza' appears 911 times often in strange contexts that does not correspond to dropping by Dominos.
Mike Benz can basically prove he was handling money laundering for CIA, MI5, Mossad, the Saudis, and possibly other allied intelligence agencies. It's entirely possible "pizza" was a code word, but it doesn't mean what a lot of people assume it does.
Mike Benz can basically prove he was handling money laundering for CIA, MI5, Mossad, the Saudis, and possibly other allied intelligence agencies. It's entirely possible "pizza" was a code word, but it doesn't mean what a lot of people assume it does.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (2ocoG)
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Fun facts about the Epstein doc drop...the phrase 'pizza' appears 911 times often in strange contexts that does not correspond to dropping by Dominos.
Billionaires. With executive chefs. Going out for pizza. All the time.
Billionaires. With executive chefs. Going out for pizza. All the time.
Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (R8Lmn)
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A common cry of the consiracy believers over and over again "why are they redacting the names of pedos?" yet the FBI has categorically said that none of the redacted names are males, all are of female victims.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (xqQi7)
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Cucker Tarlson is still on in the Comet Pizza thing. Guess who was running the operation?
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (g47mK)
Yeah, there is a chunk of the interest in the Epstein matter that's particularly animated by the prospect that it can be pinned on Israel.
The Jewwwwsssss!!!
Posted by: Really?? at February 09, 2026 04:36 PM (y6810)
are you fucking joking ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:51 PM (g47mK)
Yeah, there is a chunk of the interest in the Epstein matter that's particularly animated by the prospect that it can be pinned on Israel.
Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (vSvIl)
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Phrase it however you want. We know so much to be true. It was fine with TPTB and their elite handlers in the IC, until it wasn't.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (xgA6p)
Flounder Johnson is right!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (xgA6p)
Flounder Johnson is right!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (xcxpd)
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I suspect Epstein was one of the most careless of whatever number of cutouts, agents, con-men or whatever term you'd like to use. The IC and deep state have thousands of them. Everywhere.
I suppose if one were to royally fuck up... well there'd be some sort of recriminations for that.
Sometimes, those would be "messy."
I suppose if one were to royally fuck up... well there'd be some sort of recriminations for that.
Sometimes, those would be "messy."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (jtM2q)
267
263 A common cry of the consiracy believers over and over again "why are they redacting the names of pedos?" yet the FBI has categorically said that none of the redacted names are males, all are of female victims.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (xqQi7)
Well the FBI wouldn't lie, so I'm certain now.
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 09, 2026 04:56 PM (xqQi7)
Well the FBI wouldn't lie, so I'm certain now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (xcxpd)
268
Epstein was a cutout for governments and politically connected around the world. He facilitated off the books financial transactions for things that couldn't be done publicly.
BCCI and gun running level stuff.
BCCI and gun running level stuff.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (viF8m)
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Billionaires. With executive chefs. Going out for pizza. All the time.
As another data point, as you get older the amount of pizza you can eat does go down. Red sauce and grease are not good for some older digestive systems...
As another data point, as you get older the amount of pizza you can eat does go down. Red sauce and grease are not good for some older digestive systems...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)
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"A common cry of the consiracy believers over and over again "why are they redacting the names of pedos?" yet the FBI has categorically said that none of the redacted names are males, all are of female victims."
Have the believers produced the evidence of the incorrect redactions? If they have the receipts, F what the FBI says.
Have the believers produced the evidence of the incorrect redactions? If they have the receipts, F what the FBI says.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (N8ZBc)
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>>Yeah, there is a chunk of the interest in the Epstein matter that's particularly animated by the prospect that it can be pinned on Israel.
They are absolutely giddy over the Rothschild refs.
They are absolutely giddy over the Rothschild refs.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (gH8T+)
272
criminals are utilized by intelligence agencies, film at 11!
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (g47mK)
273
Is there a Boomer Pizza? What would it be like?
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (pDt9x)
274
Where would we be now if instead of Ms Guthrie's mom being gone, it were someone from FNC instead of NBC, say, Greg Gutfeld's mom?
Posted by: M. Gaga at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (KiBMU)
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261 Fun facts about the Epstein doc drop...the phrase 'pizza' appears 911 times often in strange contexts that does not correspond to dropping by Dominos.
Mike Benz can basically prove he was handling money laundering for CIA, MI5, Mossad, the Saudis, and possibly other allied intelligence agencies. It's entirely possible "pizza" was a code word, but it doesn't mean what a lot of people assume it does.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (2ocoG)
Again, take a look of the use of the word 'pizza' in context in those emails and tell me what you think it means. It sure doesn't seem like Papa Murphys.
Mike Benz can basically prove he was handling money laundering for CIA, MI5, Mossad, the Saudis, and possibly other allied intelligence agencies. It's entirely possible "pizza" was a code word, but it doesn't mean what a lot of people assume it does.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (2ocoG)
Again, take a look of the use of the word 'pizza' in context in those emails and tell me what you think it means. It sure doesn't seem like Papa Murphys.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (xcxpd)
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"But, conspiracy theorists tend to do that. That's their go-to move."
Remember, the key to being a conspiracy theorist is that ALL evidence supports your theory. Including missing evidence.
And contrary evidence? Obviously THEY seeded it to throw people off the track. Duh.
Remember, the key to being a conspiracy theorist is that ALL evidence supports your theory. Including missing evidence.
And contrary evidence? Obviously THEY seeded it to throw people off the track. Duh.
Posted by: can of spam at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (14gFN)
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Has anyone Cross Ref'd the Pizza and Jerky hits in the Files with Dates?
Does the Pizza stop when the Jerky starts?
Does the Pizza stop when the Jerky starts?
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (gH8T+)
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Epstein was a connection rod of the Deep State. He ran the trains, started the mingling, and tried to be indispensable to the inner party.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (u82oZ)
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I think one of the most amusing email revelations was Bill Gates getting the clap from Russian hookers and then trying to get Epstein to give him anti-biotics he could slip his wife on the sly so she wouldn't know that Bill passed the clap along to her.
That amused me.
That amused me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:00 PM (N8ZBc)
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This is the same FBI telling us there's nothing to see here that just "discovered" a "device" on grandma Guthrie's roof AFTER THE NEIGHBOR TOLD THEM they should look up there. Liars and clowns.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:54 PM (abIsI)
Well, government agents need a good reason to check out a roof. It could be sloped, after all.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2026 04:54 PM (abIsI)
Well, government agents need a good reason to check out a roof. It could be sloped, after all.
Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2026 05:00 PM (vSvIl)
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So, Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world HAS to get antibiotics from Jeff Epstein? Ah okay then.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (pDt9x)
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Is there a Boomer Pizza? What would it be like?
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (pDt9x)
Came out of a box.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 04:58 PM (pDt9x)
Came out of a box.
Posted by: Chef Boyardee Pizza In A Box at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (Ksqrb)
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If I posted about Pizza, here, every time I thought about Pizza...well, it's look pretty bad is all I am saying
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (gH8T+)
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260 Just got an email that the new Olympians LP is shipping out today.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (gH8T+)
Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (gH8T+)
Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (xcxpd)
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I just don't grok this 'stop looking nothing to see,' and 'trust the govt now' vibe I see here.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:02 PM (N8ZBc)
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>>Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Soul / Funk Instrumental Band
DapTone Records.
Good stuff.
Soul / Funk Instrumental Band
DapTone Records.
Good stuff.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:02 PM (gH8T+)
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285 260 Just got an email that the new Olympians LP is shipping out today.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (gH8T+)
Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (xcxpd)
Mark Watt probably is in the band.
Very excited these guys put out a 2nd LP.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 04:55 PM (gH8T+)
Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 05:01 PM (xcxpd)
Mark Watt probably is in the band.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 05:02 PM (pDt9x)
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I think it is interesting, because Cucker prostrates himself before and promotes Islamists who follow a pedophile as a form of religion, and marry 12 year olds to 60 year old men on a regular basis.
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (g47mK)
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people don't like to hear this, but some alleged conspiracies are just too big to believe
As you probably know, I represent the Rothschilds.
Thank you Ace for all that you do.
As you probably know, I represent the Rothschilds.
Thank you Ace for all that you do.
Posted by: Jepprey Efstein at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (MeJ0I)
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Look, you don't think Epstein was a pedophile or provided children, pre-teens and teens to the rich and powerful...fine. I'm not your dad.
But don't piss on my leg and tell me I'm imagining my shoes are getting wet.
But don't piss on my leg and tell me I'm imagining my shoes are getting wet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (xcxpd)
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can of spam
Contradictory evidence in a theory is treated by modern, NSF-funded scientists like this:
"That data point is an outlier. Disregard and disappear it. "
Seen it done.
Contradictory evidence in a theory is treated by modern, NSF-funded scientists like this:
"That data point is an outlier. Disregard and disappear it. "
Seen it done.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (u82oZ)
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Its a HIPAA class action suit. Contagion abounds. Yuck!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (YlWIZ)
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First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (viF8m)
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*fistbump*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (Cjt/F)
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>>Mark Watt probably is in the band.
I was going to suggest, earlier:
Minutemen: Double Nickels on the Dime
fIREHOSE: Ragin' Full On, From Ohio
Mike Watt: Ball Hog or Tug Boat, Contemplating the Engine Room
These are my suggestions for the Watt Curious
I was going to suggest, earlier:
Minutemen: Double Nickels on the Dime
fIREHOSE: Ragin' Full On, From Ohio
Mike Watt: Ball Hog or Tug Boat, Contemplating the Engine Room
These are my suggestions for the Watt Curious
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (gH8T+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (tgvbd)
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Okay, so maybe Epstein wasn't Mr. Pimp for the Rich and Famous, but quite a few of them have been resigning lately as their names were found in the files. I can't even remember them all. So what gives?
Okay, so maybe Epstein wasn't Mr. Pimp for the Rich and Famous, but quite a few of them have been resigning lately as their names were found in the files. I can't even remember them all. So what gives?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (n7rxJ)
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268 "Epstein was a cutout for governments and politically connected around the world."
The summary on "Blat" within the Walter Kirn thread (see 213) describes how people like him take over when legitimate governments start to fail.
Personally, I am concerned about his seeming fixation on scientists and mathematicians.
The summary on "Blat" within the Walter Kirn thread (see 213) describes how people like him take over when legitimate governments start to fail.
Personally, I am concerned about his seeming fixation on scientists and mathematicians.
Posted by: KT at February 09, 2026 05:05 PM (7vIsy)
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299 268 "Epstein was a cutout for governments and politically connected around the world."
The summary on "Blat" within the Walter Kirn thread (see 213) describes how people like him take over when legitimate governments start to fail.
Personally, I am concerned about his seeming fixation on scientists and mathematicians.
Posted by: KT at February 09, 2026 05:05 PM (7vIsy)
Maybe he had A Beautiful Mind.
The summary on "Blat" within the Walter Kirn thread (see 213) describes how people like him take over when legitimate governments start to fail.
Personally, I am concerned about his seeming fixation on scientists and mathematicians.
Posted by: KT at February 09, 2026 05:05 PM (7vIsy)
Maybe he had A Beautiful Mind.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 05:06 PM (pDt9x)
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So what gives?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (n7rxJ)
Are you just asking questions?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 09, 2026 05:04 PM (n7rxJ)
Are you just asking questions?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2026 05:06 PM (xgA6p)
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"Personally, I am concerned about his seeming fixation on scientists and mathematicians."
Geeks who had no other way to get sex.
Geeks who had no other way to get sex.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:06 PM (N8ZBc)
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287 >>Local group? Haven't heard of them.
Soul / Funk Instrumental Band
DapTone Records.
Good stuff.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:02 PM (gH8T+)
I do like soul and funk. I'll check out what I can find about them.
Soul / Funk Instrumental Band
DapTone Records.
Good stuff.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:02 PM (gH8T+)
I do like soul and funk. I'll check out what I can find about them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 05:06 PM (xcxpd)
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I find it amazing the "GREAT SATAN" has ordered the FBI help find Savannah Guthrie Savannah Guthrie's Mother ......
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump .......
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump .......
Posted by: Jackson at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (X7dyz)
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I think one of the most amusing email revelations was Bill Gates getting the clap from Russian hookers and then trying to get Epstein to give him anti-biotics he could slip his wife on the sly so she wouldn't know that Bill passed the clap along to her.
That amused me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (xcxpd)
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Throw in some pedos and kids -- and you've got yourself a Netflix film right there.
That amused me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 09, 2026 04:59 PM (xcxpd)
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Throw in some pedos and kids -- and you've got yourself a Netflix film right there.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (og9b4)
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>>I do like soul and funk
Colemine Records should be on your short list.
They have a Spotify Chanel, I am sure.
Colemine Records should be on your short list.
They have a Spotify Chanel, I am sure.
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (gH8T+)
Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2026 05:08 PM (gH8T+)
Posted by: MSM at February 09, 2026 05:08 PM (jGJov)
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but some alleged conspiracies are just too big to believe that no one ever blew the whistle
This is such a weird default position for people who are living in a timeline in which astroturf politics, including protests and other organized mayhem, funding through government cutouts, like NGOs is a thing. Or one in which coordinated government censorship of social media and the internet took place behind the scenes. All without whistleblowers coming forward when it was occuring.
This is such a weird default position for people who are living in a timeline in which astroturf politics, including protests and other organized mayhem, funding through government cutouts, like NGOs is a thing. Or one in which coordinated government censorship of social media and the internet took place behind the scenes. All without whistleblowers coming forward when it was occuring.
Posted by: bear with asymmetric balls at February 09, 2026 05:08 PM (wCQ1m)
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I get the impression that there are a lot of prestigious people (professors, royalty, politicians) who, appearances aside, are often short of cash and fall prey to sleazy financiers who promise a quick buck.
I get the impression that there are a lot of prestigious people (professors, royalty, politicians) who, appearances aside, are often short of cash and fall prey to sleazy financiers who promise a quick buck.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (tgvbd)
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The explanation I saw for that was that Epstein went nuts on some keto fad, and was truly obsessed with it. I guess that could be plausible. No idea.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (XvL8K)
You don’t need to freeze beef jerky, nor do you need someone to “walk the jerky over”.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 09, 2026 04:53 PM (XvL8K)
You don’t need to freeze beef jerky, nor do you need someone to “walk the jerky over”.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (dhHpw)
Posted by: anachronda at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (N8ZBc)
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I find it amazing the "GREAT SATAN" has ordered the FBI help find Savannah Guthrie Savannah Guthrie's Mother ......
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump .......
Posted by: Jackson
I hope she is returned safely and then grieves every day for the rest of her life over her lost bogeyman.
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump .......
Posted by: Jackson
I hope she is returned safely and then grieves every day for the rest of her life over her lost bogeyman.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (xgA6p)
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I find it amazing the "GREAT SATAN" has ordered the FBI help find Savannah Guthrie Savannah Guthrie's Mother ......
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump ......
Posted by: Jackson at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (X7dyz)
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I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused Trump of being the kidnapper.
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump ......
Posted by: Jackson at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (X7dyz)
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I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused Trump of being the kidnapper.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (og9b4)
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You'd think if he was running a straight child sex ring, he'd have the kids tested regularly so Bill Gates did not give his wife the clap.
If it was JUST a sex ring, then the harm to the client would have damaged that brand.
Instead the pedo shit was rolled into the high roller lifestyle epstein was providing these guys. So Chris Tucker gives this girl the clap and she passes it on to Gates and he passes it on to his wife (as an hypothetical.)
Fuck, thats horrible.
If it was JUST a sex ring, then the harm to the client would have damaged that brand.
Instead the pedo shit was rolled into the high roller lifestyle epstein was providing these guys. So Chris Tucker gives this girl the clap and she passes it on to Gates and he passes it on to his wife (as an hypothetical.)
Fuck, thats horrible.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (zZu0s)
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Why is our local ABC affiliate reporting that DHS is going to be defunded by the end of the week?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2026 05:11 PM (W2Pud)
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I find it amazing the "GREAT SATAN" has ordered the FBI help find Savannah Guthrie Savannah Guthrie's Mother ......
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump ......
Posted by: Jackson at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (X7dyz)
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I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused & defamed Trump as being the kidnapper.
Apparently, Savannah Guthrie's Mother Hated Trump ......
Posted by: Jackson at February 09, 2026 05:07 PM (X7dyz)
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I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused & defamed Trump as being the kidnapper.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:11 PM (og9b4)
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313 "such a weird default position"
'X has not been proven yet, therefore X must be false.'
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (N8ZBc)
It means X is neither true nor false. Sort of a Schrodinger’s X. Both true and false until proof appears.
'X has not been proven yet, therefore X must be false.'
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:09 PM (N8ZBc)
It means X is neither true nor false. Sort of a Schrodinger’s X. Both true and false until proof appears.
Posted by: tubal at February 09, 2026 05:11 PM (pDt9x)
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Thank you Ace for all that you do.
Posted by: Jepprey Efstein at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (MeJ0I)
Yes yes! Ace has restored our faith in humanity!
Posted by: Jepprey Efstein at February 09, 2026 05:03 PM (MeJ0I)
Yes yes! Ace has restored our faith in humanity!
Posted by: Henry Jarecki's Man Boobs at February 09, 2026 05:12 PM (pkaxU)
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I've been saying that there wasn't any fire in the Epstein smoke for a while. It would have come out by now if there had been.
Basically all we found out is that people we thought were terrible human beings were in fact terrible human beings.
No surprise there.
Basically all we found out is that people we thought were terrible human beings were in fact terrible human beings.
No surprise there.
Posted by: Defenestratus at February 09, 2026 05:12 PM (WYStd)
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hey, did you guys know that Russian are evacuating their personnel from Busher nuke site ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2026 05:12 PM (g47mK)
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319 Yup. It's a fallacy.
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:12 PM (N8ZBc)
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Two things can be true, Epstein was a pervert and a sexual deviant who might have turned some of his friends and associates onto his freak and he was also a dirty money man that facilitated off the books shit like moving money and weapons with various political leaders.
Sometimes those circles overlap but not always.
Sometimes those circles overlap but not always.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2026 05:13 PM (viF8m)
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nood
Posted by: gp at February 09, 2026 05:13 PM (N8ZBc)
Posted by: Top. Men. at February 09, 2026 05:13 PM (eTwL2)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 09, 2026 05:13 PM (6ydKt)
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Anyone know where I can get some good pizza and hot dogs? Especially hot dogs?
Posted by: B. Obama at February 09, 2026 05:14 PM (Dv3i1)
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runner, I do know.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2026 05:14 PM (0KSrI)
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317 Why is our local ABC affiliate reporting that DHS is going to be defunded by the end of the week?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Parts of it are. DHS funding was stripped out of the overall funding bills so it only got a two week extension of funding. Affects other parts of DHS like TSA and Fema.
Border Patrol and Ice were funded under the BBB.
But a lot of DHS falls under essential employee exceptions to furloughs. So we shall see.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Parts of it are. DHS funding was stripped out of the overall funding bills so it only got a two week extension of funding. Affects other parts of DHS like TSA and Fema.
Border Patrol and Ice were funded under the BBB.
But a lot of DHS falls under essential employee exceptions to furloughs. So we shall see.
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at February 09, 2026 05:18 PM (J+Psw)
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It means X is neither true nor false. Sort of a Schrodinger’s X. Both true and false until proof appears.
==
This is about where I am. I know something is up. I know there is a lot of shit in the game. I dont know that all the shit swirling around is true. But something is true, and its not great, and we dont know what it is. I dont think Trump is dirty. If he was they would have gladly used it long ago. Long ago. No, its worse for the dems and the stablishment. That shit weasel was every democrats best friend. Larry fcking summers was asking dating advice from him? Why? HIM? WHAT the fck does he know about banging chicks???
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This is about where I am. I know something is up. I know there is a lot of shit in the game. I dont know that all the shit swirling around is true. But something is true, and its not great, and we dont know what it is. I dont think Trump is dirty. If he was they would have gladly used it long ago. Long ago. No, its worse for the dems and the stablishment. That shit weasel was every democrats best friend. Larry fcking summers was asking dating advice from him? Why? HIM? WHAT the fck does he know about banging chicks???
Posted by: David Carradine and Michael Hutchins at February 09, 2026 05:18 PM (6rdCx)
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298
Okay, so maybe Epstein wasn't Mr. Pimp for the Rich and Famous, but quite a few of them have been resigning lately as their names were found in the files. I can't even remember them all. So what gives?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Other than Andrew in UK and Fergie, Peter Mandelson had to resign because it came out that he gave top secret information to Epstein about an impending bank bailout. Starmer's top aide man was also a protege of Mandelson and got some mentions in the files. Plus UK government in particular has a problem with rape and child trafficking in general. Starmer was the Crown Prosecutor over the Rotherham rape cases involving young white Brits and Pakistanis.
Norway, the Crown Princess was a top level pervert and a skank and her son has been charged with multiple counts of rape and sexual assault. Apparently she was a perv herself apart from Epstein.
Okay, so maybe Epstein wasn't Mr. Pimp for the Rich and Famous, but quite a few of them have been resigning lately as their names were found in the files. I can't even remember them all. So what gives?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Other than Andrew in UK and Fergie, Peter Mandelson had to resign because it came out that he gave top secret information to Epstein about an impending bank bailout. Starmer's top aide man was also a protege of Mandelson and got some mentions in the files. Plus UK government in particular has a problem with rape and child trafficking in general. Starmer was the Crown Prosecutor over the Rotherham rape cases involving young white Brits and Pakistanis.
Norway, the Crown Princess was a top level pervert and a skank and her son has been charged with multiple counts of rape and sexual assault. Apparently she was a perv herself apart from Epstein.
Posted by: whig at February 09, 2026 05:20 PM (2swu2)
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Well the FBI wouldn't lie, so I'm certain now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (xcxpd)
Then what's stopping Thomas Massie from viewiing the undredacted versions and claiming he's seen proof the FBI is lying about the redactions?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
February 09, 2026 04:57 PM (xcxpd)
Then what's stopping Thomas Massie from viewiing the undredacted versions and claiming he's seen proof the FBI is lying about the redactions?
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 09, 2026 05:20 PM (xqQi7)
336
Why is our local ABC affiliate reporting that DHS is going to be defunded by the end of the week?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2026 05:11 PM (W2Pud)
Because lies get eyes.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2026 05:11 PM (W2Pud)
Because lies get eyes.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at February 09, 2026 05:20 PM (dhHpw)
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"Fun facts about the Epstein doc drop...the phrase 'pizza' appears 911 times often in strange contexts that does not correspond to dropping by Dominos. #PizzaGate is a smear to cover up real shady shit."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
yeah, there is "something" to all those weird messages, and iirc, the phrasing was directly from the real pedo language, used to find kids. Then there was the strange art of Podesta, several "not right" factors.
Hastert was Speaker of the House for 8 years, then found to be a "pedo". How big a club is it? We'll I'm not in it, so idk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
yeah, there is "something" to all those weird messages, and iirc, the phrasing was directly from the real pedo language, used to find kids. Then there was the strange art of Podesta, several "not right" factors.
Hastert was Speaker of the House for 8 years, then found to be a "pedo". How big a club is it? We'll I'm not in it, so idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 09, 2026 05:21 PM (vbXSk)
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They did not find blackmail photos or videos, because they did not secure the materials when they raided the island. They came back later, and what they saw the first time was not there anymore.
Also, the Epstein email have nearly a thousand references to pizza, but you should not think this is code.
Also, the Epstein email have nearly a thousand references to pizza, but you should not think this is code.
Posted by: MikeN at February 09, 2026 05:22 PM (8uQGY)
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And Comet Pizza is just a pizza place, where middle aged rich guys raved about the delectable pizza and grape soda
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 09, 2026 05:23 PM (wBaIH)
340
I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused Trump of being the kidnapper.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (og9b4)
Runner thinks it was Tucker Carlson. He has proof.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (og9b4)
Runner thinks it was Tucker Carlson. He has proof.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2026 05:25 PM (rbvCR)
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Jeffrey Epstein as an investor.
He was doing this stuff in the 80's and 90's.
People forget that.
So, he would do stuff like get people into European bank accounts etc. It sounds so dumb and boring now.
But in 1982 that wasn't so easy to do.
No internet.
So he could make his money by just running a very basic fund like that.
Now it sounds so easy and dumb we assume he must have been doing something shady.
He was doing this stuff in the 80's and 90's.
People forget that.
So, he would do stuff like get people into European bank accounts etc. It sounds so dumb and boring now.
But in 1982 that wasn't so easy to do.
No internet.
So he could make his money by just running a very basic fund like that.
Now it sounds so easy and dumb we assume he must have been doing something shady.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 05:25 PM (IuIym)
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Look, I just want the Stephen Paddock files. Is that too much to ask? Deadliest mass shooting in American history. Epstein is scandalous, but much less so than the FBI looking like they're doing a coverup for the IC.
Am I the only one who remembers? The local police stalled on answering questions, using their technically open investigation as an excuse; then when the two-year limit was reached and they had to close it, they didn't make a new excuse for continuing to refuse. It was just, yeah, we got nothin'.
It seriously looked like the FBI was forcing the locals to clam up and they resented it, so they just did the bare minimum compliance, without even trying to make it look good. I will never, ever trust the Feds after that, and so those are the files we really need to see, for national healing and restoration of trust.
Am I the only one who remembers? The local police stalled on answering questions, using their technically open investigation as an excuse; then when the two-year limit was reached and they had to close it, they didn't make a new excuse for continuing to refuse. It was just, yeah, we got nothin'.
It seriously looked like the FBI was forcing the locals to clam up and they resented it, so they just did the bare minimum compliance, without even trying to make it look good. I will never, ever trust the Feds after that, and so those are the files we really need to see, for national healing and restoration of trust.
Posted by: SciVo at February 09, 2026 05:25 PM (Sy6m/)
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and he would make the most money by getting BIG FISH so he could make his 1% off $100 million.
That's a million dollars.
That's a million dollars.
Posted by: coba at February 09, 2026 05:26 PM (IuIym)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at Februar
No, I can’t say I ever thought that. What weird ideas for books. “We’ll improve it by adding swearing.”
No, I can’t say I ever thought that. What weird ideas for books. “We’ll improve it by adding swearing.”
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 09, 2026 05:29 PM (8Xy/A)
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340 I find it amazing that the MDM-MSM hasn't already accused Trump of being the kidnapper.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (og9b4)
Runner thinks it was Tucker Carlson. He has proof.
Posted by: Kindltot
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It's true; He grabbed them by the pussy and snatched them away.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats Push For Death Certificates To Be Accepted As Voter ID at February 09, 2026 05:10 PM (og9b4)
Runner thinks it was Tucker Carlson. He has proof.
Posted by: Kindltot
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It's true; He grabbed them by the pussy and snatched them away.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 09, 2026 05:45 PM (6W1vz)
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"He walked away with a wrist slap on something serious that you or i would still be in jail over. The US attny said the deal was IC related. He then winds up dead in max security. The video was off, then years later here it is, wait its missing a minute, no, here it is. Who is walking in the tier in orange?? Nobody knows. Oh and they where putting together a press release on his in custody death the day before he died. I totally get the conspiracy people. Totally. I am not all the way there, but i sure has hell aint pointing and laughing at them either.
Full stop.
Posted by: Soooooo at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (6rdCx)"
Concur. And I don't know anyone who thinks Epstein's primary modus operandi was charging rich men to have sex with underage kids. The kids were the lingua franca, the thing that brought these evil people together, the shared interest that made them one of the members of the club. There are hundreds of emails already unearthed that are either totally nonsensical, or are made up of code language talking about something else. And those emails point to horrors too hideous to imagine.
Full stop.
Posted by: Soooooo at February 09, 2026 04:28 PM (6rdCx)"
Concur. And I don't know anyone who thinks Epstein's primary modus operandi was charging rich men to have sex with underage kids. The kids were the lingua franca, the thing that brought these evil people together, the shared interest that made them one of the members of the club. There are hundreds of emails already unearthed that are either totally nonsensical, or are made up of code language talking about something else. And those emails point to horrors too hideous to imagine.
Posted by: Sloucho at February 09, 2026 06:12 PM (B9ht/)
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MTV Spring Break with guest Bill Clinton
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