Unbelievable: Left-Wing Judge Dismisses "Murder By Use of Firearm" Charge Against Luigi Mangione to Spare the Left-Wing Hearth-Throb the Death Penalty

Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

This judge was known to be a left-wing partisan who had already made a series of rulings favorable to the Deadly Dreamboat.

Now she throws out two counts he's obviously guilty of just to keep the death penalty off the table.

A federal judge has taken the death penalty off the table for Luigi Mangione, sharply narrowing the government's options in the high-profile case tied to the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a Manhattan street in December 2024.
U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett ruled Friday that prosecutors cannot pursue capital punishment, dismissing two federal counts that would have put the death penalty in play -- murder through the use of a firearm and using a firearm with a silencer to commit a crime of violence.
Mangione, 27, has pleaded not guilty to both state and federal charges stemming from the fatal shooting, which authorities say occurred as Thompson was walking into a conference in Midtown Manhattan. While the death penalty is now off the table, Mangione still faces two federal stalking counts that carry a potential sentence of life in prison without parole if he is convicted.

Lefties Love Luigi.

Man allegedly posed as FBI agent in apparent attempt to spring Luigi Mangione from prison

The Minnesota man was charged with impersonating an FBI agent after he showed up at a federal prison in New York City claiming to have a court order to release Mangione

Minnesota Man, huh?

A Minnesota man was charged Thursday with impersonating an FBI agent after he showed up at a federal prison in New York City claiming to have a court order to release an inmate, identified by a law enforcement source as accused killer Luigi Mangione.
Mark Anderson, 35, was arrested at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn late Wednesday after prison workers asked to see his credentials and he produced a Minnesota driver's license and "claimed to be in possession of weapons," according to a complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for thr Eastern District of New York.
Anderson also claimed "that he was an FBI Agent in possession of paperwork 'signed by a judge' authorizing the release of a specific inmate," the complaint states.
The inmate is not named in the court document.
"Anderson also displayed and threw at [Bureau of Prisons] officers numerous documents," the complaint states. "They appear to be related to filing claims against the United States Department of Justice."
In his backpack, BOP workers found a barbecue fork and a "round steel blade" that resembled a pizza cutter.
Anderson had traveled to New York from Minnesota for a job opportunity that didn't work out, and had been working at a pizzeria, the law enforcement source said.

Another leftist achiever.

Posted by: Ace at 03:40 PM

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1 Can the Feds appeal this insane ruling?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2026 03:41 PM (buPQP)

2 Ooh! A new post! Ooh!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 03:41 PM (giMmT)

3 Is say unbelievable too, but it's totally believable.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2026 03:42 PM (mzMU/)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)

5 Unfortunately not unbelievable at all.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 30, 2026 03:43 PM (fZiTB)

6 'Oh, ya got to have friends ...'

Posted by: Bette at January 30, 2026 03:43 PM (3ZUWJ)

7 Minnesota Man, huh?

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The spin off is almost never as good as the original.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

8 Someone said that the opinion acknowledges up front that it is an insane opinion that doesn't make sense?

Posted by: SimoHayek at January 30, 2026 03:43 PM (02HPh)

9 He's on video pulling a gun and killing a man by shooting him in the back.

Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)

10 I don't care if the kid fries, but can we reopen the asylums got Minnesota men (if there truly are any left.)

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 30, 2026 03:45 PM (sLLbN)

11 I want to thank Mom and Dad, my piano teacher, my high school western civ teacher, and my earliest influences in perfecting my art, for my honor today as Post Premiere.

Now, in keeping with other artistes, I have a half hour screed on my personal political opinions I would like to convey to the audience at home....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2026 03:45 PM (buPQP)

12 9 He's on video pulling a gun and killing a man by shooting him in the back.

Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)

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By being a bad judge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

13 Unless you are in some Southern States the death penalty is rarely carried out...He should rot in prison without parole

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2026 03:45 PM (VE6XX)

14 There's a Queensrÿche lyric out there somewhere that would apply to this judge, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

15 1 Can the Feds appeal this insane ruling?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2026 03:41 PM (buPQP)

+ 1

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (S6amQ)

16 we discussed this morning, it looks like there may be a problem with the wording of the Federal Statute that led to this.

This should be prosecuted under State Law, but NY doesn't allow the DP either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (giMmT)

17 "Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?"

Bribe. BIG bribe.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (N8ZBc)

18 What did he kill the guy with then?Dud he throw the bullets into him?

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (YwEeS)

19 I bet if Loogie Manbone looked like Rainn Wilson he would not be getting this bizarre tongue bathing. There's a good chance he walks. Sheesh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (PSEDc)

20 My understanding of the grounds for the decision comes from a Gothamist article that alleged that the judge dismissed the charges solely to foreclose the death penalty.

To no one's surprise this is not a valid basis to dismiss charges.

Posted by: Penfold at January 30, 2026 03:46 PM (Fbt5B)

21 This guy is gonna walk out of prison after a few years served for the pre meditated murder of a man. He is already a celebrity and will land a high paid gig on cnn when he gets out of jail in a few years.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (0N4FZ)

22 In his backpack, BOP workers found a barbecue fork and a "round steel blade" that resembled a pizza cutter.

I mean, WTAF?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

23 How is she able to do that? Was he indicted on those charges?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (cwGMH)

24 Unbelievable: Left-Wing Judge Dismisses "Murder By Use of Firearm" Charge Against Luigi Mangione to Spare the Left-Wing Hearth-Throb the Death Penalty
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On the contrary, I find this entirely believable. Leftist judges are out of control and answer to no one but themselves.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (ESVrU)

25 I have a pizza cutter and I'm not afraid to use it!

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (7kply)

26 Kirk's killer will also skate, never get what he deserves in this world as punishment. Satan has a plan for the tranny shooter.

Posted by: kingsman at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (ehY6c)

27 Tyrant in black needs the Dugan treatment.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (OYMjn)

28 I mean, WTAF?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

I know, right? Where is the peel?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (rbvCR)

29 I did a quick search… this judge looks exactly like you might think…. Pudgy Karen

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (/iXAp)

30 How much is the bodycam screwup by the one cop going to affect the case? And the search warrant too?

Idiots.

Posted by: pookysgirl, still sick at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (Wt5PA)

31 The George Soros Plan of electing left-wing judges and AG's seems to be working well for the Democrats all across this country.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (NpAcC)

32 Luigi Mangione was almost sprung from jail with the help of a pizza cutter?

So perfectly South Park.

Posted by: fly gal at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (g8IDW)

33 Tyrant in black needs the Dugan treatment.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2026 03:47 PM (OYMjn)

His daughter needs to be blown up by Ukrainians?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (rbvCR)

34 Officials became suspicious when the FBI agent identified himself as Special Agent Alonso Moseley.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2026 03:48 PM (6ZSsV)

35 I can't imagine how the murdered man's family must be feeling. Everything in NY seems to be geared to protect killers and evildoers.

Posted by: Decaf at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (Z8jzG)

36 Okay, can the judicial ruling be appealed?

Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (pDt9x)

37 Dude as FBI agent

Talk about winning stupid prizes, maybe he'll room with Don Le'Mon in the graybar hitel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (OYMjn)

38 FBI: Pizza Hut Division.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

39 I thought high grade idiots came from Florida.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (PV3WW)

40 Some day when the Marxists take over he will get out

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (Ia/+0)

41 I thought the trumpet player was dead.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (UjdFS)

42 Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?

With a "No problem. Barely an inconvenience..."

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (7kply)

43 Luigi Mangione was almost sprung from jail with the help of a pizza cutter?

So perfectly South Park.

Posted by: fly gal at January 30, 2026

***
"They killed Luigi!!!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2026 03:50 PM (wzUl9)

44 I've read this story at a few places, but nobody says what the judge ruled. What was her legal reason for throwing out the charges?

Posted by: No Name Today at January 30, 2026 03:50 PM (8mulE)

45 Judge Garnett, a Biden appointment recommended by Schumer. A graduate of Columbia Law. Decision not a surprise

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2026 03:50 PM (IDEQi)

46 It's easy. You just have to change the reality of the crime to match the lesser charge you want to try.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 30, 2026 03:50 PM (0U5gm)

47 Was it a semi-automatic, full-auto pizza cutter?

Posted by: one hour sober at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (Y1sOo)

48 He's on video pulling a gun and killing a man by shooting him in the back.

Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)

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I keep thinking that people who can excuse that are capable of doing the same.

Posted by: Decaf at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (Z8jzG)

49 Elric, you are right there. Please give us the scoop. el Doctoró Blade.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (Wmg4n)

50 This is why there can be no peace.

They're literally dropping murder charges to protect their people.

It's literally true that you won't necessarily be charged with murder if you murder the right sort of person.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (oSeBJ)

51 I thought the trumpet player was dead.
Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM (UjdFS)

It wasn't a trumpet.

Posted by: Zombie Chuck Mangione at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)

52 "In the order dismissing charges, Garnett wrote that the murder through the use of a firearm and weapons charges required the element that the murder was committed "during and in relation to" another federal crime that is considered a "crime of violence."

The judge noted that stalking could be done nonviolently, and that owning a silencer, although illegal, was not necessarily a crime of violence.

The problem is that when Congress wrote the law, they wrote it to say that Murder with the DP attached must have been carried out along with a separate crime of violence. That was a stupid way to write the law.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (giMmT)

53 "Everything ~~in NY~~ Democrats do seems to be geared to protect killers and evildoers." FIFY.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (N8ZBc)

54 Officials became suspicious when the FBI agent identified himself as Special Agent Alonso Moseley.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2026

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Ha! That goes back a ways.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (wzUl9)

55 BTW, that judge will get removed for obvious corruption.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (PV3WW)

56 50 This is why there can be no peace.

They're literally dropping murder charges to protect their people.

It's literally true that you won't necessarily be charged with murder if you murder the right sort of person.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (oSeBJ)

The Left fights tooth and nail for their monsters.

Posted by: XTC at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (uEmCf)

57 Minnesota criminal drives himself to the prison.

No wonder Tim Walz is governor.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (BI5O2)

58 Second look at the Unibomber?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (g8Ew8)

59 Pizza cutter with the thing that goes up?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (OYMjn)

60 ot:

It's a < 2 mile walk from CMU to the Synagogue that got shot up.

Posted by: DaveA at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (FhXTo)

61 I saw Hearth-Throb open for Confagnation at Cain's Ballroom in '22.

Posted by: ShainS -- Who's Gonna Be Today's FAFO Darwin Award Winner? at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (oThr7)

62 Ace, I'm not sure this was judicial activism. The federal "murder" statute is an odd-ball charge that isn't really "murder" as that term is usually understood. It requires an additional element that requires that the killing be committed during another "crime of violence."

The best the prosecutors could come up with for the other "crime of violence" was "stalking." Meh. Even I'm not sure about that.

If the judge really wanted to tank the case, she could have ruled that the backpack search was illegal (it was done without a warrant). She didn't. She ruled that the very incriminating items in the backpack (manifesto, gun, etc) are admissible. That was a big win for the prosecution.

This creepy loser still faces charges in the case that could put him away for life. And there's the state prosecution for murder-two as well. As I've said here before, I still think this fucker is gonna walk, unfortunately.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

63 And yet again, judicial tyranny continues because there's no cost whatsoever to it. There's never a price to pay.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (PYyV9)

64 GOPe: la-la-la, nothing to see except rainbows and sunshine.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (mlg/3)

65 Was it a semi-automatic, full-auto pizza cutter?
Posted by: one hour sober at January 30, 2026

***
You know without looking it has a thing that goes up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2026 03:52 PM (wzUl9)

66 We are too beholden to the law.

Posted by: Oglebay at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (2ap+5)

67

just more new rules
that the left isnt going to like very much
when they start getting implemented in red states
and theres a lot more red states than blue ones

Posted by: sound awake at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (g7ym/)

68 Pro pizzamen use a great big f'n chef's knife to cut pizza. Did he have one of those?

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (N8ZBc)

69 Flugelhorn?

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (UjdFS)

70
The best the prosecutors could come up with for the other "crime of violence" was "stalking." Meh. Even I'm not sure about that.

Shooting a man in the back isn't considered violent?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

71 Defund the judiciary.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Joe Mama at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (TezPK)

72 What did he kill the guy with then?Dud he throw the bullets into him?

Posted by: steevy

In a sane city, that would still qualify for capital punishment if it killed him.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (0U5gm)

73 Federal convictions can be pardoned by the next dem president anyway, can't they?

Posted by: 496 at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (YpWtw)

74 I keep thinking that people who can excuse that are capable of doing the same.
Posted by: Decaf

No. They're just eager to have others do it. The judge wouldn't dare sully her dainty hands with such scut work, don't cha know?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (mlg/3)

75 Pro pizzamen use a great big f'n chef's knife to cut pizza. Did he have one of those?
Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026

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I bought one of those pizza cutter wheels once. I'd have had more success using a Texas spur on the pizza. Went back to a knife and fork.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2026 03:54 PM (wzUl9)

76 With a "No problem. Barely an inconvenience..."
Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2026 03:49 PM

Lawless judges are tight!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (Wnv9h)

77 Elric, you are right there. Please give us the scoop. el Doctoró Blade.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (Wmg4n)
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Please see my comment above. The short answer is that the federal "murder" crime isn't really "murder" as we understand it. It's an odd-ball crime that requires murder the murder be committed during another "crime of violence." Very odd formulation.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

78 Pre-meditation and terrorism not a consideration for the DP.

Did they previously drop the terrorism charge?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (cwGMH)

79 Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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How so?

The courts are obviously not going to be part of the solution to the communists.

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (vSvIl)

80 This is why there can be no peace.

They're literally dropping murder charges to protect their people.

It's literally true that you won't necessarily be charged with murder if you murder the right sort of person.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 30, 2026 03:51 PM (oSeBJ)

Soros DAs mean you usually won't even be charged

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (8avO+)

81 I thought high grade idiots came from Florida.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Ever been to Boston?

Wicked pissah!

Posted by: Joe Mama at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (TezPK)

82 just more new rules
that the left isnt going to like very much
when they start getting implemented in red states
and theres a lot more red states than blue ones

Posted by: sound awake

While I appreciate the intent, I have to say that this is the worst haiku I have ever encountered.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (0U5gm)

83 Judges need to be held accountable for obvious bad rulings. They are there to apply the law not to overthrow the law. These judges need to be kicked off the bench. It's obvious they are too stupid or too bias to make any rulings.

Posted by: Case at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (E7+ue)

84 Very unfortunate that the stuff they "found" in the backpack will be allowed. I don't get it. They didn't have a warrant. There's not exceptions to this!
Edit:there are explanations of the exemptions below

No death penalty is huge. Getting that evidence tossed would have really increased their chances at trial. Without it, there was still other evidence that could have been used to convict him, but this significantly increases his odds at being convicted.

I can't wait to read his book. The next presidential candidate needs to pardon him now. There's a list of hardened criminals Trump pardoned. IDGAF about this we go high when they low bullshit. Luigi deserves a pardon more than 100% of those people.

Pam Bondi jeoperadized this entire case by pushing for the death penalty. No judge would allow this to be a death penalty case. Luigi might fucking walk. That would be the worst failure of a US Attorney General in modern times.

Like it matters. The Establishment hates this man with burning passion. Even if he is found innocent they will never let him be. Smart at any rate. They would make him a martyr if they were to give him the death penalty.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (JCZqz)

85 Minnesota criminal drives himself to the prison.

Yeah but how much is parking?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (Kt19C)

86 Pizza cutter wheels work ok if you sharpen the cutting edge.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (PV3WW)

87 Flugelhorn?
Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026

***
Die Fliedermaus (harking back to this morning's Art Thread)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (wzUl9)

88 And yet again, judicial tyranny continues because there's no cost whatsoever to it. There's never a price to pay.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Ah but they will rue the day!

Posted by: Vichy GOP at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (ciYHQ)

89 Okay, can the judicial ruling be appealed?
Posted by: tubal

Yes. Pizza peeled!

Posted by: fly gal at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (g8IDW)

90 Please see my comment above. The short answer is that the federal "murder" crime isn't really "murder" as we understand it. It's an odd-ball crime that requires murder the murder be committed during another "crime of violence." Very odd formulation.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

Possibly some legerdemain to try and boost it out of being a state charge without the "crossing state lines" folderol.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (8avO+)

91
I can't wait to read his book. The next presidential candidate needs to pardon him now. There's a list of hardened criminals Trump pardoned. IDGAF about this we go high when they low bullshit. Luigi deserves a pardon more than 100% of those people.

Unbelievable

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (VE6XX)

92 So, The Missus insists I do All Pizza Cutting and I must do it with The Wheel Pizza Cutter.

Just one of those quirky little quite things she does, I guess.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (DgMqy)

93 The best the prosecutors could come up with for the other "crime of violence" was "stalking." Meh. Even I'm not sure about that.

Shooting a man in the back isn't considered violent?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough. The prosecution conceded as much.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

94 A BBQ fork? A pizza wheel? Sounds like some good eatin'!

Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (ufJfM)

95 We havd a two tier justice system, 1 for Leftists and the other for everyone else.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (Ia/+0)

96 84 I can't wait to read his book. The next presidential candidate needs to pardon him now. There's a list of hardened criminals Trump pardoned. IDGAF about this we go high when they low bullshit. Luigi deserves a pardon more than 100% of those people.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (JCZqz)

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Why does he deserve a pardon?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

97 The courts are obviously not going to be part of the solution to the communists."

1930s Spain says "have a cerveza"

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (cGjQu)

98 So our side is at the "No Justice No Peace" inflection point now. Funny old world, it is.

Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (pDt9x)

99 Anderson had traveled to New York from Minnesota for a job opportunity that didn't work out
......

Shoulda stayed home and opened a Learing Center.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (UjdFS)

100 Yes. Pizza peeled!

Posted by: fly gal at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (g8IDW)
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*golf clap*

Posted by: 496 at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (YpWtw)

101 Maybe I need to find a holster so I can carry my pizza cutter with me on my hikes to protect myself.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (S6amQ)

102 84 Like it matters. The Establishment hates this man with burning passion. Even if he is found innocent they will never let him be. Smart at any rate. They would make him a martyr if they were to give him the death penalty.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (JCZqz)

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The left has so many martyrs, one more won't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

103 willowed:

Homan's got a PHD in pissology.
On their leg and sensitive parts too.
With absolutely no hesitation, good publicity too.
PAIN, hahahahahah

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (hG1+u)

104 You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough. The prosecution conceded as much.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade

So the prosecution is throwing the case. Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (mlg/3)

105 84 Like it matters. The Establishment hates this man with burning passion. Even if he is found innocent they will never let him be. Smart at any rate. They would make him a martyr if they were to give him the death penalty.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM (JCZqz)

There's no such thing as "Found Innocent", and those lefty assholes know it because they scream it from the mountaintops every time someone is found Not Guilty of rape.

Posted by: XTC at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (iXqHn)

106 At his age, life is far worse. If he even gets tried.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 30, 2026 03:59 PM (Vvh2V)

107 Can we raze MN to the ground yet? We can airdrop pamphlets to warn the law abiding citizens.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 30, 2026 03:59 PM (oT7pT)

108
You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough. The prosecution conceded as much.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

That's REAL retarded, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)

109
Shooting a man in the back isn't considered violent?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

Parse what he said carefully. What you describe is the Primary act of Violence. But the Federal Law also requires a secondary act of violence to have been committed along with the primary, or else it cannot be used.

It's a badly written law.

In judicial rulings "conservative" and "liberal" don't mean what we think they do politically. A "Liberal" judge will simply reinterpret the law to mean whatever he wants it to mean in order to keep things moving along.

A "conservative" judge will refuse to rewrite the law, since that's the legislature's job. He or she will simply toss the mess out of court and tell the Legislature to try again. If a criminal goes free - well that's the legislature's fault, not the judge's.

This is actually a pretty conservative legal ruling.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 03:59 PM (giMmT)

110 Ah but they will rue the day!
Posted by: Vichy GOP at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM

"Rue the day? Who talks like that?"

Posted by: Chris Knight at January 30, 2026 03:59 PM (Wnv9h)

111 You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough.

The law is a ass.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (Fs0KI)

112 Please see my comment above. The short answer is that the federal "murder" crime isn't really "murder" as we understand it. It's an odd-ball crime that requires murder the murder be committed during another "crime of violence." Very odd formulation.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

Possibly some legerdemain to try and boost it out of being a state charge without the "crossing state lines" folderol.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (8avO+)
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Yes, and also to get to the death penalty. The "regular" federal murder charge is still in the case, but doesn't carry the death penalty. It's kinda like murder-one versus murder-two in NY state. Both are "murder," but murder-one is murder plus an additional element.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

113 Release Mangione and let the people seek real justice. Fuck the Judge Twat.

Posted by: pudinhead at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (Hpgos)

114 I am not sure the guy really deserves the death penalty, but removing charges just to avoid the possibility is judicial tyranny, its abuse of power, but it will continue forever until some checks and penalties arise to stop this kind of thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (PYyV9)

115 Pro pizzamen use a great big f'n chef's knife to cut pizza. Did he have one of those?
Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (N8ZBc)

There's a thing with a heavy curved blade and two handles on each end so you can cut the whole diameter in one go.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (8avO+)

116 What we need is Judge Roy Bean

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (VE6XX)

117 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (hG1+u)

118 There was a Vietnamese cook that I knew made his own pizza wheel out of heavy pieces of carbon steel and sharpened razor-blade sharp. Would have made a formidable weapon.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (g8Ew8)

119 It's literally true that you won't necessarily be charged with murder if you murder the right sort of person.
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This is why, as was the case with Goode and Petti, there is no option other than "shot while resisting arrest."

Prosecution is pretty much a waste of time and effort in dealing with Democrats.

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (vSvIl)

120 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?"

With a twist of Lemon?

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (cGjQu)

121 117 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (hG1+u)

He's gonna be very popular

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (VE6XX)

122 110 Ah but they will rue the day!
Posted by: Vichy GOP at January 30, 2026 03:56 PM

"Rue the day? Who talks like that?"
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The Roos.

Posted by: pudinhead at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (Hpgos)

123 117 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (hG1+u)

Just play them some smooth jazz.

Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (pDt9x)

124 This will not be a popular opinion, I'm sure, but you have to be precise in the charging documents. Precise in the language used. Not overcharge, or use the wrong statute. Not have grandstanding amateur feds swoop in and do any of the above. In short, you can't give these assholes any reason for dismissal. See Comey, James. James, Leticia. Lemon, C. Sucker.

Unless of course if it is a Democrat charging a conservative. Then none of that matters.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at January 30, 2026 04:01 PM (MZ+PY)

125 I am not sure the guy really deserves the death penalty, but removing charges just to avoid the possibility is judicial tyranny, its abuse of power, but it will continue forever until some checks and penalties arise to stop this kind of thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (PYyV9)

lying in wait / conspiracy like stipulations don't qualify for the elevation? They should. Isn't like this was a spur of the moment thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (8avO+)

126 Prosecution is pretty much a waste of time and effort in dealing with Democrats"

Read that as "prostitution "...

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (cGjQu)

127 1 Can the Feds appeal this insane ruling?
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Yes. Interlocutory appeal.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (2swu2)

128 You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough. The prosecution conceded as much.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade

So the prosecution is throwing the case. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (mlg/3)
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Prosecution had no choice. That's what the statute requires to get to the death penalty. See my comment above. The "regular" murder charge is still in the case. But that charge doesn't carry the death penalty. In order to get to the death penalty, you need murder plus a separate crime of violence.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

129 "I bought one of those pizza cutter wheels once. I'd have had more success using a Texas spur on the pizza."

Yeah, I've never used any but dull ones. Dull like kindergartner scissors.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (N8ZBc)

130 I think the actionable point here is that if you want to kill someone in cold blood, you need to get them to NYC first.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (0U5gm)

131 This was a political assassination intended to terrorize other CEOs the Left doesn't like.

Are there not statues that allow for the DP to be applied ?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (cwGMH)

132 Just play them some smooth jazz."

Feels so Good.

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (cGjQu)

133 So the prosecution is throwing the case. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2026 03:58 PM (mlg/3)

Trump told Bondi to go for the DP on this one. It should have just gone through State Law charges, but NY doesn't have a DP anymore. Bondi used the Federal Murder with DP charge, but as we're pointing out, it's a badly written, messed up law.

I am not picking on either Bondi or Trump, but his was a minefiled that Bondi was ordered to go into. No choice for her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (giMmT)

134 Like it matters. The Establishment hates this man with burning passion.

One of the most painful lies the left tells themselves is that they are still the oppressed minority resistance against THe Man.

They ARE the man, they are the establishment. They control education, entertainment, business, news, science, law, government, religion, all aspects of society and civilization. They are the powerful.

Its like calling white people the "majority" and other ethic backgrounds "minority" despite whites being about 16% of the population worldwide.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (PYyV9)

135 117 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?

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If internet rumors are true, Luigi's a bottom with a preference for Black guys. He'll be fine.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (0bjKf)

136 133
Trump told Bondi to go for the DP on this one. It should have just gone through State Law charges, but NY doesn't have a DP anymore. Bondi used the Federal Murder with DP charge, but as we're pointing out, it's a badly written, messed up law.

I am not picking on either Bondi or Trump, but his was a minefiled that Bondi was ordered to go into. No choice for her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (giMmT)

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Matt Gaetz would have done it perfectly!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

137 Pizza?

Meh. No, thanks.

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (cGjQu)

138 The lefties mad at insurance companies, justifying the Mangione shooting, still haven't connected the dots that Obamacare enriched the insurance companies, and made them even more insensitive to the policy holders. Because the media doesn't want them to.

Nope...let's shoot an exec, and then get turned into a heartthrob for the single woke Karens. That will solve things.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (gWBY1)

139 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (hG1+u)

He's a hero. I'm betting he gets his pick of the asses to shove his meatstick in.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)

140 Yeah, I've never used any but dull ones. Dull like kindergartner scissors.
Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (N8ZBc)

I have a pretty decent all metal one. It for some reason gets all black if I don't dry it after cleaning it, annoying.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (8avO+)

141 One of the sparks that led to the Spanish Civil War was the recently elected leftwing government giving its street thugs full license to murder opposition political figures.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (sKqQm)

142 115 Pro pizzamen use a great big f'n chef's knife to cut pizza. Did he have one of those?
Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 03:53 PM (N8ZBc)

There's a thing with a heavy curved blade and two handles on each end so you can cut the whole diameter in one go.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (8avO+)

I think that's called a mezzaluna.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (S6amQ)

143 138 The lefties mad at insurance companies, justifying the Mangione shooting, still haven't connected the dots that Obamacare enriched the insurance companies, and made them even more insensitive to the policy holders. Because the media doesn't want them to.

Nope...let's shoot an exec, and then get turned into a heartthrob for the single woke Karens. That will solve things.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (gWBY1)

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American healthcare was fixed with the ACA.

Or are you a racist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (GBKbO)

144 Luigi deserves a 45acp brain lobotomy
He planned the murder and carried it out

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (Ia/+0)

145 Just what weapon did Magione use to backshoot and kill the victim? Did he point his finger and say "bang bang you're dead". I mean the man was killed with a firearm. How can this judge dismiss the charge? Well she's a Democrat and probably believes that Mangione can get pregnant.

Posted by: comanche voter at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (cB7nX)

146 117 How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (hG1+u)

Sometimes the people you think are going to be the rape-bitches end up getting treated like kings.

Example : Jared Fogle. You would have thought they'd give him the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment.

But nope.

Posted by: XTC at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (iXqHn)

147 If internet rumors are true, Luigi's a bottom with a preference for Black guys. He'll be fine."

So, no Miralax?

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (cGjQu)

148 >>> In his backpack, BOP workers found a barbecue fork and a "round steel blade" that resembled a pizza cutter. Anderson had traveled to New York from Minnesota for a job opportunity that didn't work out, and had been working at a pizzeria, the law enforcement source said.

Media rewriting the narrative: A minnesota man was arrested with the tools of his trade in his backpack...

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (gWBY1)

149 “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image (Something said by someone in some book )

Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (pDt9x)

150 It's good to be a Demonrat I guess. These "judges" are bullshit. Two tier justice for the country. I would say I am surprised but each day I am not. It's just another level of the insanity.

Posted by: turambar at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (Q0yOR)

151 lying in wait / conspiracy like stipulations don't qualify for the elevation? They should.

I see death penalty being the required penalty for someone who is a severe threat to society at large and who has committed a heinous crime. Not just "I got mad and waited for the guy my girl was cheating with" but "I hate left handed people and killed as many as I could find and damn well still will keep doing so."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (PYyV9)

152 114 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (PYyV9)

Right he just committed murder one, but it was against a CEO so we should probably let America's oldest Tween

Luigi Mangina used his MIND to kill the guy.

Posted by: sven at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (MUJd1)

153 The lefties mad at insurance companies, justifying the Mangione shooting, still haven't connected the dots that Obamacare enriched the insurance companies, and made them even more insensitive to the policy holders. Because the media doesn't want them to.

Yes, if the exec was guilty for profiting off of Obamacare then isn't Obama just as guilty since he created it?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (sKqQm)

154 Was it Bueller who said you have to replace the judges in order to make real reforms?

Because this is getting ridiculous.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (Hkcdp)

155 In for a minute...
Yeah, falsely convict and imprison cops for NOT killing a black man with enough fent in his system to kill an elephant.
Don't convict for using a firearm a man who murdered another with a firearm.

All makes sense in Leftist logic. Guns bad unless they use them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (ynpvh)

156 One of the sparks that led to the Spanish Civil War was the recently elected leftwing government giving its street thugs full license to murder opposition political figures."

Indeed. History may repeat...

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (cGjQu)

157 Are there not statues that allow for the DP to be applied ?
Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 04:03 PM (cwGMH)

If he had done this in Texas or any of the other states that still allow the DP, yes it could have been. But he did it in NY, a criminal's haven.

And now we're finding out that Congress forgot to make assassinations punishable by the DP when they wrote the Federal statute.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (giMmT)

158 At first I was confused and mad, but now he'll be anally raped to death instead of "put to sleep"

Bye, fucker. hope it hurts

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (XLfSN)

159 153
Yes, if the exec was guilty for profiting off of Obamacare then isn't Obama just as guilty since he created it?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (sKqQm)

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Obama couldn't predict that the ACA wouldn't lead to utopia.

This is the fault of wreckers and hoarders who prevented it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

160 >>>"Rue the day? Who talks like that?"

Posted by: Chris Knight

>A black, Jewish, female Shakespeare? Huzzah!

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (oT7pT)

161 "There's a thing with a heavy curved blade and two handles on each end so you can cut the whole diameter in one go.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (8avO+)

I think that's called a mezzaluna."

Dual-handled chef's knife.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (N8ZBc)

162 Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

So political assassination doesn't allow for the DP?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (cwGMH)

163 Something said by someone in some book"

Well, it was over a hundred years ago...

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (cGjQu)

164
Prosecution had no choice. That's what the statute requires to get to the death penalty. See my comment above. The "regular" murder charge is still in the case. But that charge doesn't carry the death penalty. In order to get to the death penalty, you need murder plus a separate crime of violence.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

Normally I resist the urge to say, there ought to be a law. In this case there ought to be a law that lets you get the death penalty for this type of crime.
Maybe not, I don't know enough to have an opinion but YOLO

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (S6amQ)

165 Manually operated scimitar.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (N8ZBc)

166 Nope...let's shoot an exec, and then get turned into a heartthrob for the single woke Karens. That will solve things.
Posted by: LizLem
.......

They're gonna be so disappointed when he marries Bubba.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (UjdFS)

167 The judge's reasoning seems screwy. But she may have increased the odds of loser shooter boy getting convicted. Squeamish jurors that can't dispute the evidence will now have the "its just prison and L could be pardoned or have his sentence commuted once orange-man bad is out of office" carrot to do to the right thing now.

I don't understand the lefts love affair with evil killers, they did the same thing with the Boston marathon bomber, and that was full on cowardly craven terrorism against wimmin and children.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (hhkIi)

168 U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett apparently wants a living martyr so the MFM/Hollyweird crowd can deify him through interviews, movies, and retrospectives on their hero.

I cannot believe we have people running courts who are so poisonous to justice.

After voter reform, the nation needs to get to Judicial Reform. Law really doesn't mean law and hasn't in forever; it remains politics.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:07 PM (gLikB)

169 American healthcare was fixed with the ACA.

The left says all three of these things interchangeably:

1) Obamacare fixed American healthcare and we HAVE to preserve it or people will die

2) American health care is the worst in the world

3) Changing American health care laws is racist, evil, and mean (when a Republican is in charge)

4) We must change the American health care laws because if we don't it is evil, racist and mean (when a Democrat is in charge)

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (sKqQm)

170 154 Was it Bueller who said you have to replace the judges in order to make real reforms?

Because this is getting ridiculous.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (Hkcdp)

No, that line was in Nayib Bukele's Day Off.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (giMmT)

171 >>How long is Mangione going to survive in prison?

Long time. He has a purdy mouf.

Posted by: one hour sober at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (Y1sOo)

172 44 I've read this story at a few places, but nobody says what the judge ruled. What was her legal reason for throwing out the charges?
Posted by: No Name Today

Okay, Mangione still faces two charges that bring life in prison without parole charges.

The specifics are that death penalty, as per Scotus, requires an aggravating factor above and beyond simple murder. Aka murder for money, murder for hate, etc.

The federal statute he was charged under was using a suppressor in commission of a murder and stalking prior to the murder. Judge concluded neither of those were predicate crimes of violence so the aggravating factor allowing the death penalty under the federal statutes no longer exist.

Scotus dealing with criminal history has been parsing which crimes are traditional crimes of violence and which are not. That district judge was interpreting those decisions to apply to the statute.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (2swu2)

173 Seems to me if someone is murdered their rights have been violated. Like their right to live.

Posted by: Case at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (E7+ue)

174 They're gonna be so disappointed when he marries Bubba."

Guess who's catching...

Posted by: man at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (cGjQu)

175 I doubt Luigi will do especially badly in prison. Cons hate people who attack women and children (because they aren't around to protect theirs) but just some guy who killed an exec? Unless he's a complete idiot, he'll fare normally in prison as I understand it.

The people who do badly in prison, according to convicts and prison guards, are the people who are disrespectful and impolite, arrogant, or demanding. It can be surprising what is considered disrespectful, something like peeing standing up for example but it makes sense if you really think about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (PYyV9)

176 151 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:05 PM (PYyV9)

Conspiratorial murder for political purposes to change policy is the classical definition of terrorism, good to know you think the Mangina shoot was not particularly bad for society at large....

our of curiosity what homicides against their ideological foes on the left would find your leniency?

Posted by: sven at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (MUJd1)

177 169 The left says all three of these things interchangeably:

1) Obamacare fixed American healthcare and we HAVE to preserve it or people will die

2) American health care is the worst in the world

3) Changing American health care laws is racist, evil, and mean (when a Republican is in charge)

4) We must change the American health care laws because if we don't it is evil, racist and mean (when a Democrat is in charge)

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (sKqQm)

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The American government doesn't spend any money on healthcare, you know. They spend it all on the Pentagon instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

178 In the wooden chair
Beside my window
I wear a face born in the falling rain
I talk to shadows from a lonely candle
Recite the phrases from the wall
I can’t explain this Holy pain

Waiting for days longer
’til sister comes to wash my sins away
She is the lady that can ease my sorrow
My love for her
Will help me find my way

Posted by: Vichy GOP at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (ciYHQ)

179 Did pizza cutter guy ever stop to think that feds taking custody of a high-profile prisoner might be preceded by a phone call, and also that the FBI would send more than one dude for such an assignment?

That's rhetorical, of course, as progressivism precludes logical thought.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at January 30, 2026 04:08 PM (We5PL)

180 MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM: A man is in custody after allegedly walking nude around a Florida resort and publicly engaging in a sexual act with a vacuum cleaner. Deputies responded to the Windsor Hills Resort in Kissimmee after they got calls saying a man was exposing himself. The man was identified as 51-year-old Kevin Dale Westerhold, who reportedly hosts an Airbnb property in the area, and is now facing charges of exposure of sexual organs as the investigation continues.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (NtVYv)

181 There's a thing with a heavy curved blade and two handles on each end so you can cut the whole diameter in one go.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:00 PM (8avO+)

I think that's called a mezzaluna.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 04:04 PM (S6amQ)

close, but those are for chopping herbs on a cutting bowl. What I am thinking of is much longer to cut across the entire pizza in one chop, then spin to do the next one. Saw a YT clip of some woman in a pizzeria chopping a pizza out of the oven like a dervish with one. It was like 20"" blade or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (8avO+)

182 Do Cape Cod Original potato chips count as a major food group?

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (rj6Yv)

183 If they can get a jury to convict him, I predict he'll be pardoned within the next dem president's first year in office. He'll probably get a ticker tape parade too

Posted by: 496 at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (rxRAc)

184 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:06 PM (giMmT)

NY DP allowed for killing law enforcement I think:

But we are talking about Federal charges not state.

I think a terrorism charge also applies.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (cwGMH)

185 Occasionally in talking to lefty LIVs I'll point out that "back in the day" you could see a doctor, even a specialist!, in a short period of time and the price wouldn't break the bank. They'll agree until I point out "back in the day" ended shortly after Obamacare was passed.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (sKqQm)

186 Just let him go, and hope he has an accident. It's less aggravating.

Posted by: connected and litigious at January 30, 2026 04:10 PM (cS1cw)

187 This is insane on the judge’s part. But it’s NY, he was never going to given the death penalty by a jury.

Posted by: Really?? at January 30, 2026 04:10 PM (PHOGh)

188 MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM: A man is in custody after allegedly walking nude around a Florida resort and publicly engaging in a sexual act with a vacuum cleaner.

Well that story sucked

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:10 PM (sKqQm)

189 Unshakable belief in a higher power, one that will hand out true justice in the next life, because this world is a fallen one incapable of such, is one of the few things that grounds me and keeps me sane. It helps me from stroking out when I hear a cold blooded murder, who killed someone vigilante style on the street, will skate the full justice of the law.

Justice is only blind when she isn't being whored out for politics.

I do pity the woke lefties that only believe justice is possible in this life, and they MUST be one the "right" side of history, according to their sense of justice. Because I think it explains a lot of their mental illnesses and their TDS.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (gWBY1)

190 185 Occasionally in talking to lefty LIVs I'll point out that "back in the day" you could see a doctor, even a specialist!, in a short period of time and the price wouldn't break the bank. They'll agree until I point out "back in the day" ended shortly after Obamacare was passed.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (sKqQm)

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"Why can't the world be the 80s again?"
-the left, doing everything possible to prevent anything like the 80s from happening again

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

191 I think a terrorism charge also applies.

I think that will be a tough one to prove. Typically terrorism is defined as something like "violence done to a civilian population in an attempt to influence or change government policy." If you try hard enough you can Kevin Bacon your way there in this instance but you have to convince a somewhat hostile jury.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (PYyV9)

192 I would love to see the reasoning behind this

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (NtVYv)

193 Whenever DJIA, SP500, and Nas have a down day simultaneously, my crappy little portfolio gains. Flight to Quality, or Run for Cover? Sell all that overpriced growth crap, suckas; welcome to ValueLand.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (N8ZBc)

194 >>Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (NtVYv)

"It's a Flowbee! I was just trimming the verge!!!"

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (ZcsJV)

195 193 Whenever DJIA, SP500, and Nas have a down day simultaneously, my crappy little portfolio gains. Flight to Quality, or Run for Cover? Sell all that overpriced growth crap, suckas; welcome to ValueLand.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (N8ZBc)

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Friday and last day of the month.

Sell for profits.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

196 I can see the verdict now: Jurors find him not guilty, and also vote to send his prosecuting attorneys to the guillotine.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (GD2xa)

197 I think a terrorism charge also applies.

I think that will be a tough one to prove. Typically terrorism is defined as something like "violence done to a civilian population in an attempt to influence or change government policy." If you try hard enough you can Kevin Bacon your way there in this instance but you have to convince a somewhat hostile jury.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (PYyV9)

It was certainly done to change corporate policy, even the leftists would agree.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (8avO+)

198 Meh. The women here think Luigi is dreamy. One of them wants to write him a letter and tell him how much she loves him. Not kidding. It’s so weird.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (W2Pud)

199 116 What we need is Judge Roy Bean
Posted by: It's me donna
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What we need to do is play their game.
Round up Mayorkas, Weisman, Fauci and the most egregious judges and put them in jail.

When they come with a writ to release them tell them it's invalid. Let the lawyers bleed them dry through the courts.

No standing
Invalid
I can't hear you

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (hG1+u)

200 He'll probably get a ticker tape parade too

"Maybe we can hook him up with a job!"
--University of Illinois

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (PYyV9)

201 murder through the use of a firearm and using a firearm with a silencer to commit a crime of violence.
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A silencer is not illegal. Having a firearm is, in New York. I think.

In federal law, to be death penalty eligible. You have to be doing a violent crime first, that then results in murder. Armed bank robbery, shoot a guard. At least thats what i heard. Oddly just shooting someone doesnt get you the chair in fed law. They tried to use stalking, a crime but judge said not violent. Eh.

Posted by: Law will make you wish it didnt at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (xj28v)

202 190 "Why can't the world be the 80s again?"
-the left, doing everything possible to prevent anything like the 80s from happening again
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

While shouting "RE-CREATE '68!!!".

Posted by: XTC at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (iXqHn)

203 When the govt tries to make things affordable prices for those things increase faster than inflation sometimes by several orders of magnitude.

See education, health care and housing as exhibits a,b and c.

Posted by: Really?? at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (PHOGh)

204 The simple answer is that the law should be back to what it was until the wave of do-gooder criminal sympathy took root in the 60's.

ALL premeditated murder should be punishable by the Death Penalty. No conditions, no aggravating circumstances required, no other elements needed. ALL Premeditated murder should be punished by Death, just like we used to do. Period.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (giMmT)

205 You need a killing plus another separate crime of violence. A killing alone isn't enough. The prosecution conceded as much.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 30, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

That's REAL retarded, sir.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

It makes sense, because 90% of murders are state crimes. For the Feds to get involved...the Federal Government has to be involved in some way. On Federal property, against a federal employee, or (as alleged in this case) while committing another Federal violation. But, it sounds like the Federal violation here didn't meet the criteria/threshold needed. It doesn't seem that far off. The State can (and should) charge him with murder, but as for the feds...it's really not their case.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (JCZqz)

206 You know Who Else wasn't expected to survive long in prison?

Speaking of "can't wait to read his book..."
We'll be lucky if he doesn't get funding in there to start a prisoners' revolt party and take over the whole country.
Not like it's never happened before.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (zdLoL)

207 In a win for prosecutors, Garnett said they could present evidence to the jury from Mangione's backpack that he had at the time of his arrest at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
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I think people are exaggerating about the judge.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (6ZSsV)

208 >>There's a thing with a heavy curved blade and two handles on each end so you can cut the whole diameter in one go.

It's called a Bat' Leth.

Posted by: Big Mike Obama at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (ZcsJV)

209 168 U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett apparently wants a living martyr so the MFM/Hollyweird crowd can deify him through interviews, movies, and retrospectives on their hero.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026
04:07 PM (gLikB)

Pardoning a dead guy just doesn't demonstrate the power of a fully functional Democrat Party. The standard is Guilty as Sin and Free as a Bird.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (w/O5Q)

210 "Why can't the world be the 80s again?" Make that 1950s, please.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (N8ZBc)

211 It was certainly done to change corporate policy, even the leftists would agree.

Yeah and if you worked hard enough you could possibly link that to government policy through legislation or executive order making these changes, but I think its a stretch and again, a NY Jury probably wants to give him a medal to begin with so its a bit of an ask.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (PYyV9)

212 "Why can't the world be the 80s again?"
-the left, doing everything possible to prevent anything like the 80s from happening again

This is another odd thing about the left on the one hand the past was irredeemably racist and evil, and yes they mean the 1980s, but on the other hand they'll tell you modern Republicans are so extreme unlike the ones in the 80s and earlier.

This is a real philosophical odd spot for them, because we have obviously gone way way to the left over the last few generations while things have gotten in their views worse.

Yes I know pointing this out to them doesn't work they stick their heads in the sand and just play pretend they don't believe BOTH to be true.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:14 PM (sKqQm)

213 Judge: Luigi Mangione accidentally gave the victim lead poisoning... Accidents happen all the time...

MSM: He's a good boy, just look at his middle school soccer team pictures

Idiot White Women: He's so dreamy. He totally fixed health care...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 30, 2026 04:14 PM (Wnqw0)

214 one. Saw a YT clip of some woman in a pizzeria chopping a pizza out of the oven like a dervish with one. It was like 20"" blade or something.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (8avO+)

Found it, it's called a pizza rocker cutter and it kind of looks like a mezzaluna only it's not as moon shaped it has a flatter blade and looks deadly and like it'd work great for fast pizza cutting.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 04:14 PM (S6amQ)

215 >>> The American government doesn't spend any money on healthcare, you know. They spend it all on the Pentagon instead.

Oh, they do...just for illegals. Hardworking Americans can go hang.

I knew when Obama said if you like your plan you can keep your plan it was a bald faced lie. It didn't take being a Cassandra to see that.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (gWBY1)

216 >>"Why can't the world be the 80s again?" Make that 1950s, please.

Back when the world's problems could be solved with the back of your hand.

Posted by: Zombie Sean Connery at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (ZcsJV)

217 A silencer is not illegal.

I think suppressors are potentially illegal, at least if you don't have a license. It is also likely that using one in the commission of a crime increases penalties in NYC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (PYyV9)

218 Meh. The women here think Luigi is dreamy. One of them wants to write him a letter and tell him how much she loves him. Not kidding. It’s so weird.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (W2Pud)

Used to be a survival strategy for women when the strongmen from another district killed all the men and took them captive. Hook up with the strongest dude you could and you and your kids might make it.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (8avO+)

219 212 This is a real philosophical odd spot for them, because we have obviously gone way way to the left over the last few generations while things have gotten in their views worse.

Yes I know pointing this out to them doesn't work they stick their heads in the sand and just play pretend they don't believe BOTH to be true.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:14 PM (sKqQm)

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I've noted this weird dichotomy of yearning for major elements of the past personally and then hating on anyone who talks about returning to any policy from the past (unless it's tax brackets for the super rich).

"Why do I no longer feel save in my city anymore?"

"Well, because of all the policy changes since the late 60s."

"Does that mean you want to return of Jim Crow?!"

"In Philadelphia?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

220 "You have to be doing a violent crime first, that then results in murder."

I'd say "shooting someone in the back multiple times" is a pretty violent crime.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (gLikB)

221 "Why can't the world be the 80s again?" Make that 1950s, please.

Again, I'm reminded of the movie "Don't Worry Darling" which is supposed to be a paean to how men are terrible and we need feminism but when you watch it makes you wish you lived in the 50s...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (sKqQm)

222 CEOs should be beating feet out of NYC by the G5 load.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (jc0TO)

223 215 >>> The American government doesn't spend any money on healthcare, you know. They spend it all on the Pentagon instead.

Oh, they do...just for illegals. Hardworking Americans can go hang.

I knew when Obama said if you like your plan you can keep your plan it was a bald faced lie. It didn't take being a Cassandra to see that.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (gWBY1)

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$5 trillion a year.

The federal government spends $5 trillion a year on healthcare directly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

224 Bastard shot the guy in the back.

He deserves to die.

Posted by: pawn at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (jnZe8)

225 Of course Luigi McMurderface wasn't stalking Thompson. He just happened to be out on the sidewalk in front of the hotel where Thompson was staying and just happened to have a gun with a suppressor attached. All a very likely and innocent coincidence.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (M0V4/)

226 Used to be a survival strategy for women when the strongmen from another district killed all the men and took them captive. Hook up with the strongest dude you could and you and your kids might make it.

Works for gamma males in prison as well. Don Lemon knows what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (Riz8t)

227
VERY SAD . A good friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training has been fired for one minor indiscretion. He slept with one of his patients and can no longer work in the profession. What a waste of time, effort, training and money. He's still paying on his school loans. This just goes to show one minor mistake can ruin your life. Thoughts for him and his family. He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (hG1+u)

228 UPDATE:
Maids contracted to work at his Airbnb just quit.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (UjdFS)

229 I do not, do not like the prosecutor trick of piling on multiple charges just to terrify defendants into making a deal or get a conviction, and maybe this was one of those instances, but I also don't like judges imperially reducing charges to aid a sympathetic defendant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (PYyV9)

230 Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Yeah, for the criminals.

Posted by: Case at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (E7+ue)

231 >>> Used to be a survival strategy for women when the strongmen from another district killed all the men and took them captive. Hook up with the strongest dude you could and you and your kids might make it.

One of the women in Squid Games did that. Did not end well for her or the alpha male...

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:18 PM (gWBY1)

232 Even if this guy does get a sentence of death, what are the odds that it will be carried out before natural causes take over?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 30, 2026 04:18 PM (ESVrU)

233 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:13 PM (PYyV9)

He attempted to terrorize all healthcare corporate officers. The Left agrees with that. And supports it.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 30, 2026 04:18 PM (cwGMH)

234 by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (hG1+u)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 30, 2026 04:18 PM (Vvh2V)

235 31 The George Soros Plan of electing left-wing judges and AG's seems to be working well for the Democrats all across this country.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Let's lock him up, de-bank him, and clawback all his money.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (hG1+u)

236 Maids contracted to work at his Airbnb just quit.

Well that blows for me then

Posted by: The guy's Bissell at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (sKqQm)

237 I think suppressors are potentially illegal, at least if you don't have a license. It is also likely that using one in the commission of a crime increases penalties in NYC.
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Personally, I've never understood why our troops are not equipped with silencers. All that Night Vision and Thermal Vision is cheated once you stop banging away.

Posted by: pudinhead at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (Hpgos)

238 227 A vet who sleeps with his 'patients?' That's ... ambiguous.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (N8ZBc)

239 So you can’t be charged with murdering someone with a firearm even though the person was murdered with a firearm?

Our legal system is horseshit. We should be shooting the lawyers and judges.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (SI0IF)

240 Your honor his name was Mangione I figured he was gonna make a pie. Fuggitaboutit

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (IDEQi)

241 one. Saw a YT clip of some woman in a pizzeria chopping a pizza out of the oven like a dervish with one. It was like 20"" blade or something.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (8avO+)

Found it, it's called a pizza rocker cutter and it kind of looks like a mezzaluna only it's not as moon shaped it has a flatter blade and looks deadly and like it'd work great for fast pizza cutting.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2026 04:14 PM (S6amQ)

Yeah, that's the kinda thing. Good way to leave a limb on the pizza too, I guess if you are careless

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (8avO+)

242 If they ever go to the library, it is full of bubble poppers. They only came to dox.

Posted by: thug dolphin at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (EyfuW)

243 >>> Thoughts for him and his family. He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

You eff ONE goat...as the old joke goes.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:19 PM (gWBY1)

244 I <3 Luigi xOxOxO

Posted by: U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett at January 30, 2026 04:20 PM (jGJov)

245 Would motions to impeach be futile, or might they scare some of these "judges".

Posted by: Eeyore at January 30, 2026 04:20 PM (AlhUl)

246 The federal government spends $5 trillion a year on healthcare directly.

I believe I read that in Oregon and several other states, health care and health insurance is the biggest private employer. This happened directly because of Obamacare. The state government is, of course, the biggest overall.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:20 PM (PYyV9)

247 I'd say "shooting someone in the back multiple times" is a pretty violent crime.
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Another violent crime first. Armed robbery of a bank. Then you shoot murder a guard. That works. Apparently hit men cant get the chair in federal court unless they punch the vic before they shoot them. Ridiculous isnt it.

Posted by: Law will make you wish it didnt at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (xj28v)

248 VERY SAD . A good friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training has been fired for one minor indiscretion. He slept with one of his patients and can no longer work in the profession. What a waste of time, effort, training and money. He's still paying on his school loans. This just goes to show one minor mistake can ruin your life. Thoughts for him and his family. He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM (hG1+u)

I hear the Red Cresent Gazan Hospital and UN Compound is hiring.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (2WIwB)

249 " 9 He's on video pulling a gun and killing a man by shooting him in the back.

Explain to me how you take the murder charge off the table?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2026 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)"

Meh. Just one more step closer to "eh.fuck it, all you dipshits line up in front of the pit"

Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (K6SBR)

250 @180 MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM

Vacuum sweeper hoses are 1.25 inches, 1.5 inches, 2 inches, and 2.5 inches, with 2.5 inches being a common size. A sweeper hose cannot accommodate a full-grown man. This little fellow wasn't "engaged," he was just being a pest. And that's illegal in Florida.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (zdLoL)

251 VERY SAD . A good friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training has been fired for one minor indiscretion. He slept with one of his patients and can no longer work in the profession. What a waste of time, effort, training and money. He's still paying on his school loans. This just goes to show one minor mistake can ruin your life. Thoughts for him and his family. He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 04:17 PM

I am so slow.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (jc0TO)

252 Oh this is another fun one with lefty LIVs...

LL: Insurance companies should have to approve all claims!

Me: Ok, are you willing to pay substantially more personally then?

LL: Oh hell no, health insurance costs are already way too high! The government should pay for it.

Me: Ok so you want to pay MUCH higher taxes like the europeans then?

LL: Oh hell no I already pay too much in taxes

Me: So where does the money come from?

LL: RICH PEOPLE

Me: But you live in a $2M house and vacation in Europe you are rich

LL: No, really rich people!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:22 PM (sKqQm)

253 Was there an unusual buzzing sound coming from the judge's crotch area when she ruled this?

Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2026 04:22 PM (2ocoG)

254 Personally, I've never understood why our troops are not equipped with silencers. All that Night Vision and Thermal Vision is cheated once you stop banging away.

And their hearing is not great after all the shooting. I think suppressors affect long distance accuracy slightly but I am not sure it matters with how much lead gets thrown down range in an average firefight.

He attempted to terrorize all healthcare corporate officers.

Yeah there probably is a lesser, non-federal charge of terrorizing or something like that. Like, a civilian version of terrorism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:22 PM (PYyV9)

255 you can’t be charged with murdering someone with a firearm even though the person was murdered with a firearm?
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Headline was shit writing. He is charged still, but he cant get the death penalty.

Posted by: Law will make you wish it didnt at January 30, 2026 04:23 PM (xj28v)

256 Can I be held in his cell?

Posted by: Don Le Mon at January 30, 2026 04:23 PM (d+vNl)

257 Unreal.

Premeditated murder on a public street. Not guilty by way of being a wagging caterpillar eyebrow "dreamboat." Gag. Harfing quietly.

Their hero! Kill The Man who suppresses them! Or something retardo.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2026 04:23 PM (WONhk)

258 Christopher R Taylor: "I think suppressors are potentially illegal, at least if you don't have a license..."

Yeah, if you don't allow yourself to get rotorooted by the Feds due to possessing an NFA item and buying and holding the Tax Stamp, you're committing a felony.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:23 PM (gLikB)

259 The law is an ass.

Posted by: Mr. Bumble at January 30, 2026 04:23 PM (jc0TO)

260 I'm mad about this, but my understanding is federal murder charges that carry the death penalty are unusually rare. Like treason. It's usually state charges.

I would argue though this did rise to the level of terrorism like a Timothy McVeigh. But of course a liberal judge is going to find every loophole possible because deep down they love this guy.

I always wonder, if some VA federal bureaucrat denied health treatment to a veteran and a MAGA type murdered them in cold blood, also a hero?

Posted by: Leupold at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (eIzlH)

261 "It's a Flowbee! I was just trimming the verge!!!"
Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2026 04:12 PM (ZcsJV)

THE FLOWBEE HAS BLADES INSIDE

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (NtVYv)

262 Suppressors are illegal in NY, but are legal on the Federal level and many states. I have almost a dozen now.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (SI0IF)

263 At some point, someone needs to explain to me why leftists like to have criminals loose and walking around. Do they really believe they will never become the victims of said criminals? And if so, how are they pulling that off, exactly?

I know commies all believe they will be the commissars and not the proletariat, which is patently false, so I suppose they can believe anything.

But this is complete denial of reality. LALA Land.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (I40wl)

264 LL: RICH PEOPLE

Me: But you live in a $2M house and vacation in Europe you are rich

LL: No, really rich people!

Like Bernie Sanders going from "millionaires must pay their fair share and are our enemies" to "billionaires must pay..." once he became a millionaire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (PYyV9)

265 And their hearing is not great after all the shooting. I think suppressors affect long distance accuracy slightly but I am not sure it matters with how much lead gets thrown down range in an average firefight.
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Most of a gunfight is inside of 100m.

Posted by: pudinhead at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (Hpgos)

266 >>>A vet who sleeps with his 'patients?' That's ... ambiguous.

Also, vets don't go to medical school. They go to vet school.

But other than that...

Posted by: one hour sober at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (Y1sOo)

267 Well now someone in genpop can shank him in the neck a dozen times in 20 seconds. Probably better this way.

Posted by: torabora at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (KtOUo)

268 Found it, it's called a pizza rocker cutter and it kind of looks like a mezzaluna only it's not as moon shaped it has a flatter blade and looks deadly and like it'd work great for fast pizza cutting.
Posted by: CaliGirl

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$5 more for extra toppings

Posted by: Tony's Pizza at January 30, 2026 04:25 PM (1iXwP)

269 Of course Luigi McMurderface wasn't stalking Thompson. He just happened to be out on the sidewalk in front of the hotel where Thompson was staying and just happened to have a gun with a suppressor attached. All a very likely and innocent coincidence.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 30, 2026 04:16 PM (M0V4/)

There was a funny SF story of a planet where the natives were real peaceful but fanatics about golf. When an earthling goes on a crime rampage they do nothing, but when he tries to steal a jewel encrusted golf club one resists and he kills him. He's shocked that the crime was not murder, but interrupting the golf game. Two other aliens pledge to break the guy out....after one, or maybe three more rounds of golf....

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:25 PM (8avO+)

270 I am so slow.
Posted by: toby928(c) at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (jc0TO)

I had to go back and re-read it after seeing Tammy's LOL emojis.

So, you are not the only one.

:/

Posted by: Just some random passer by at January 30, 2026 04:25 PM (89Sog)

271 A bit OT...
A dude in California got busted for having a "fortified underground" where he had 13 firearms and 10,000 rounds of ammo. Personally I'd call that a good start.
There was also an allegation of growing weed. Well, that sucks for him.
Here at the Diogenes barrel, they'd find a lot of whiskey.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2026 04:26 PM (2WIwB)

272 Law will make you wish it didnt: "Ridiculous isnt it."

Yep. Absurdity on stilts.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:26 PM (gLikB)

273 For the record, Luigi looks like a hairy overgrown goomba to me. Not the least bit attractive. So whomever is salivating over his visage probably needs to get out a bit more than at present.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2026 04:26 PM (I40wl)

274 Suppressors are illegal in NY, but are legal on the Federal level and many states.

I think its more that the Trump administration is not enforcing any penalties, but technically its still illegal? I a not clear on this one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:26 PM (PYyV9)

275 "The federal government spends $5 trillion a year on healthcare directly."

Healthcare is a scarce economic good with price inelasticity of demand. (Did I say that right?) IOW: people will pay any $amount to anybody who they believe can save them from dying, and severe pain. They usually don't fret much when it has to be other people's money. So healthcare providers can raise prices at whim.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:27 PM (N8ZBc)

276 I hear the Red Cresent Gazan Hospital and UN Compound is hiring.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2026 04:21 PM (2WIwB)

Baaaad joke, baaaaad

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:27 PM (NtVYv)

277 188 MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM: A man is in custody after allegedly walking nude around a Florida resort and publicly engaging in a sexual act with a vacuum cleaner.

Well that story sucked
Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:10 PM (sKqQm)

***********

To be fair, we should probably withhold judgment until we've seen pics of the vacuum.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at January 30, 2026 04:27 PM (We5PL)

278 And their hearing is not great after all the shooting. I think suppressors affect long distance accuracy slightly but I am not sure it matters with how much lead gets thrown down range in an average firefight.

He attempted to terrorize all healthcare corporate officers.

Yeah there probably is a lesser, non-federal charge of terrorizing or something like that. Like, a civilian version of terrorism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:22 PM (PYyV9)

Even before the cult of the sniper took over the army has had an idea that infantry rifles should be able to hit something very far off, despite the fact that most gun exchanges are at pretty short ranges in reality. They did a lot of futzing with the M-16 because of that IIRC.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (8avO+)

279 182 Do Cape Cod Original potato chips count as a major food group?
Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2026 04:09 PM (rj6Yv)

Cape Cod chips are the Captain Crunch of the potato chip world ...

Damn things cut my mouth to shreds

Posted by: browndog shakes out his coat at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (3sXRv)

280
PizzaCutterGate

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (IifOV)

281 To be fair, we should probably withhold judgment until we've seen pics of the vacuum.
Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at January 30, 2026 04:27 PM (We5PL)

Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (I40wl)

282 The law is more the problem here than the judge. I do not see that she is a left winger trying to save him or set him free. I know this will make me unpopular. I call it like I see it, always. Read the rulings - there were several - and justifications.

Always happy to be wrong and she may yet make a monkey out of me. But today is not Monkey Day.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (6ZSsV)

283 Health care, which probably included insurance before the unACA was 1/6 of the economy. I've no idea what it is now. But that is just a function of being a rich country. If people or the country can afford it, most of them are going to spend money to try to stay healthy, and then to stay alive longer. Only a few are going to go "eh, when its my time its my time and I aint messing with medical quacks to try to squeeze out a few extra months"

Posted by: PaleRider at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (hhkIi)

284 227 I set my drink down just in time. LOLOLOL

Posted by: turambar at January 30, 2026 04:28 PM (Q0yOR)

285 They usually don't fret much when it has to be other people's money. So healthcare providers can raise prices at whim.

One thing I've tried to point out to LIVs is if they want the government to pay for healthcare it will determine what they get and what they don't, whereas if they pay they can make that choice.

"But the healthcare I want costs more then I can afford!" Ok. Now multiply that by 330 million. The problem doesn't go away.

Either individuals pay for their own care, or governments do and governments will always be incentivized to cut costs so they can spend the money they have on other things...like their own graft

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:29 PM (sKqQm)

286 190 185 Occasionally in talking to lefty LIVs I'll point out that "back in the day" you could see a doctor, even a specialist!, in a short period of time and the price wouldn't break the bank. They'll agree until I point out "back in the day" ended shortly after Obamacare was passed.

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Back in the 70s and 80s when I was a rambunctious kid who got injured a lot, I went to the emergency room probably 10 times. We did not have medical insurance and my parents were able to pay for it despite being relatively poor. Not only were the prices much lower but you could make arrangements with the hospital or doctor to make payments. Then the democrats decided that they could get people to vote for them by promising free healthcare and service has gone down and prices have gone up ever since.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 30, 2026 04:29 PM (Wnqw0)

287 This is another example: when the left takes power, there will be no limits to trampling rights. Follow laws they want to. BAMN

Posted by: JM in Illinois at January 30, 2026 04:30 PM (B43cA)

288 To be fair, we should probably withhold judgment until we've seen pics of the vacuum.

One day soon Japan will introduce a life looking sex bot and the world will never be the same...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2026 04:30 PM (sKqQm)

289 "MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM"

Charles Bronson cracked a case just like that, 13 secs:
youtube.com/watch?v=wCyGd4AngcE

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:30 PM (N8ZBc)

290 Ed Driscoll has a new Beatles post up at Instapundit.

Posted by: breaking news! at January 30, 2026 04:30 PM (RuMUX)

291 Old lady whispered to her husband. " I just let out a huge silent fart, what shlould I do ?"

The Husband: Change the battery in your hearing aid.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:31 PM (NtVYv)

292 I think its more that the Trump administration is not enforcing any penalties, but technically its still illegal? I a not clear on this one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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No. Under federal NFA law, you also have to obey state laws so you can be charged federally if you have a suppressor or cause such to be transferred across state lines into a prohibited state.

Right now, Congress eliminated the $200 tax stamp requirement to acquire a suppressor (or an Short Barrelled Rifle) but that spending bill does not override the NFA federal requirements to be legal in the state you are purchasing in and registration with fedgov.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:31 PM (2swu2)

293 They did a lot of futzing with the M-16 because of that IIRC.
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Mostly the Squad Automatic Weapon changed the lethality of M16 in close combat cuz they wanted the SAW effective on area targets out to 600m+. This created a need for a heavier 5.56mm round and full powder charge which turn the M16 into an ice pick at close quarters.

Posted by: pudinhead at January 30, 2026 04:31 PM (Hpgos)

294 >>> Like Bernie Sanders going from "millionaires must pay their fair share and are our enemies" to "billionaires must pay..." once he became a millionaire.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (PYyV9)

All good comrades have summer homes! It was amazing how breezily he brushed off having three homes like it was nothing.

Seriously, he should, as a good commie, let Somali refugees squat in his summer home for free when he's not using it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:31 PM (gWBY1)

295 290 When does he not? He is tiresome. Never had an original thought.

Posted by: turambar at January 30, 2026 04:31 PM (Q0yOR)

296 Then the democrats decided that they could get people to vote for them by promising free healthcare and service has gone down and prices have gone up ever since.

You can still get a big discount from the hospital by paying cash up front instead of going through insurance, but at least some states prohibit you from doing so if you HAVE insurance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:32 PM (PYyV9)

297 Again... not dealing with the judicial coup on day one has got to be one of Trump's major disappointments. One of the reasons there are rulings like this is because the judiciary knows "nothing will happen." The administration has demonstrated they're not willing to pull the same shit *biden's crew did. Mostly because the judges are on the left's side.

It's going to keep biting us in the ass until it's addressed... BAMN.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2026 04:32 PM (jtM2q)

298 Mumia is still a prison celebrity in the Pennsylvania state prison after murdering a police officer

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2026 04:32 PM (Ia/+0)

299 You file some forms with the ATF with a picture and your fingerprints, get approved, pay the tax (now $0). If it’s legal in your state laws, of course.

You legally now have a suppressor. I shoot with them all the time.

Same process for Maxine guns, SR, SBS, AOWs, and destructive devices.

You can even make your own suppressors. As long as you file the forms and get approved. If you made one and didn’t, that would be illegal.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2026 04:32 PM (SI0IF)

300 282 The law is more the problem here than the judge. I do not see that she is a left winger trying to save him or set him free. I know this will make me unpopular. I call it like I see it, always. Read the rulings - there were several - and justifications.

Always happy to be wrong and she may yet make a monkey out of me. But today is not Monkey Day.
Posted by: ...
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We will see if the prosecutors appeal. The more important issue is that the knapsack is in as evidence which means the gun and suppressor. So forensics can match the bullet to the gun confirming it is the murder weapon. Important in a circumstantial case.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:32 PM (2swu2)

301 Didn't read the comments so it's definitely already been said, but this is the most believable thing on the face of the earth.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2026 04:33 PM (5aZAZ)

302 Right now, Congress eliminated the $200 tax stamp requirement to acquire a suppressor (or an Short Barrelled Rifle) but that spending bill does not override the NFA federal requirements to be legal in the state you are purchasing in and registration with fedgov.

OK that was what I heard about

Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:33 PM (PYyV9)

303 Back in the 70s and 80s when I was a rambunctious kid who got injured a lot, I went to the emergency room probably 10 times. We did not have medical insurance and my parents were able to pay for it despite being relatively poor. Not only were the prices much lower but you could make arrangements with the hospital or doctor to make payments. Then the democrats decided that they could get people to vote for them by promising free healthcare and service has gone down and prices have gone up ever since.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 30, 2026 04:29 PM (Wnqw0)

A bit before COVID I fell and broke an arm. I had changed jobs so my old insurance's term was ending and I paid for the operation in cash. Got a bit of rehab paid for before things ran out.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:33 PM (8avO+)

304 "Mumia is still a prison celebrity in the Pennsylvania state prison after murdering a police officer."

MIT paid Angela Davis to speak in 2023. Judge-killing celebrity.

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:34 PM (N8ZBc)

305 Compare this to how the judges on the J6 cases allowed the Prosecution to pile on all the charges they could think of so as to create a plea deal necessity for the defendent instead of rolling the dice on Federal felonies.

Make no mistake. By taking the death penalty off the table without justification, the Judge is limiting the strategy of the prosecution to get the defendent to change his not guilty plea.

Total egregious misapplication of the Bench.

Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2026 04:34 PM (dIske)

306 Remember the list of grievances the colonialists placed in the Declaration of Independence? This modern, renegade American judicial system would fit perfectly in that list.

Posted by: Cray Cray at January 30, 2026 04:34 PM (SLFJJ)

307 .
Why has no one done the right thing and disfigured the sexy perp?

Posted by: Marooned at January 30, 2026 04:34 PM (kt8QE)

308 A bit before COVID I fell and broke an arm. I had changed jobs so my old insurance's term was ending and I paid for the operation in cash. Got a bit of rehab paid for before things ran out.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2026 04:33 PM (8avO+)

Had the same thing happen when I was younger. Took me 3 years to pay for that broken arm.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (NtVYv)

309 "217 A silencer is not illegal.

I think suppressors are potentially illegal, at least if you don't have a license. It is also likely that using one in the commission of a crime increases penalties in NYC.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:15 PM (PYyV9)"

It's not a license, you need to get approval to pay the tax stamp and have it on the NFA registry.

The feds do not fuck around on those laws for us peasants, I (personally) know someone who ended up dead over them. They will kill your ass, and possibly any number of other people along the way.

Non-goverment possession of silencers is 100% banned in NY state, zero exceptions. This means they're federally banned also. At best one might pass through with them in a locked container to and from other states, per federal law, but in practice the state will arrest you if discovered and you will 100% go to jail and the feds won't help you even though the state prosecution is unlawful.

Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (K6SBR)

310 The women's think he's dreamy....

Until he pops a cap in their ass.

Oh well, it's New York. Shouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Case at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (E7+ue)

311 The .308 in the M-14 was "overpowered", almost unusable in full auto and they over corrected that with the 5.56mm with too small a round.

Something in between should have been developed, the British actually had a good round with the .280 British, but it was rejected for NATO.

there's all sorts of solutions now and the 5.56 has been improved.

Posted by: Leupold at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (eIzlH)

312 283 Health care, which probably included insurance before the unACA was 1/6 of the economy. I've no idea what it is now. But that is just a function of being a rich country. If people or the country can afford it, most of them are going to spend money to try to stay healthy, and then to stay alive longer. Only a few are going to go "eh, when its my time its my time and I aint messing with medical quacks to try to squeeze out a few extra months"
Posted by: PaleRider

About 18 percent now. Reached 20 percent in 2020 due to Covid.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:36 PM (2swu2)

313 One reason we have the death penalty, and did not eliminate it in the 70s when much of Europe did, is because there were a string of "progressive" jurisdictions that went soft on crime and let murders out with light sentences. They killed again.

The death penalty survived in the USA because the public did not trust the government to keep these monsters off the streets. This is my opinion as someone who followed the arguments at the time and interpreted them thusly. The Left wanted to eliminate it and said "lifetime in prison is more just," but the public knew better -- they knew that "lifetime" really only meant until the next wave of progressive reforms to let criminals walk free.

Just adding this here for context. We have reached the point where the current progressive wave is even preventing the charges to get to a death penalty. For a terrorist assassination, no less.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 30, 2026 04:36 PM (1iXwP)

314 "MAN ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN SEX ACTS WITH VACUUM"

Its a plot by Big Vacuum.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2026 04:36 PM (2WIwB)

315 Make no mistake. By taking the death penalty off the table without justification, the Judge is limiting the strategy of the prosecution to get the defendent to change his not guilty plea.

Total egregious misapplication of the Bench.
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Eh. I think i will wait before i set my hair on fire. He's going down. He is proud of what he did and will take credit for it.watch.

Posted by: Law will make you wish it didnt at January 30, 2026 04:36 PM (xj28v)

316 310 The women's think he's dreamy....

Until he pops a cap in their ass

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Oh, that’s exactly what they’re dreaming about…

Posted by: Cray Cray at January 30, 2026 04:38 PM (SLFJJ)

317 Note for the NFA stuff, even if the tax is zero you still need the paperwork for it.

That's actually a trap that has been set, regulating with a tax of zero is verboten, but the law has been upheld because it's a tax... the lawsuits are ongoing.

Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:38 PM (K6SBR)

318 Lemmiwinks: "Then the democrats decided that they could get people to vote for them by promising free healthcare and service has gone down and prices have gone up ever since."

Guess what else broke the bank WRT healthcare? Illegal immigration. Hospitals were/are forced to treat those who go to the ER. So there's an endless and (up until recently) exponentially growing pressure at the single most expensive component of healthcare and social services.

And as long as there's political pressure to save the "poor and oppressed" with concomitant taxing to send to the hospitals, the hospitals are fine with it. Business is good. Not really an optimal allocation of resources and forgetting any concept of fairness to it all. It can't help but fail.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:38 PM (gLikB)

319 Non-goverment possession of silencers is 100% banned in NY state, zero exceptions. This means they're federally banned also. At best one might pass through with them in a locked container to and from other states, per federal law, but in practice the state will arrest you if discovered and you will 100% go to jail and the feds won't help you even though the state prosecution is unlawful.
Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (K6SBR)
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If you want to take a silencer/suppressor across state lines, you have to file a form with the ATF notifying them and the suppressor has to be legal in the state to which you intend to take it.

The NFA is a retarded travesty of bullshit and should have been ruled unconstitutional years ago, but here we are.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2026 04:38 PM (5aZAZ)

320 I always wonder, if some VA federal bureaucrat denied health treatment to a veteran and a MAGA type murdered them in cold blood, also a hero?

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No, cuz nuance and shit

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 30, 2026 04:39 PM (Wnqw0)

321 @Inevitablewest
🚨BREAKING: The UN has issued a letter to its 193 member states warning that they face 'imminent financial COLLAPSE' after Donald Trump cut US funding
The globalists are panicking! 🔥

They have to actually pay their own bills now, and realize their socialist paradises are built on quicksand?

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2026 04:39 PM (gWBY1)

322 At best one might pass through with them in a locked container to and from other states, per federal law, but in practice the state will arrest you if discovered and you will 100% go to jail and the feds won't help you even though the state prosecution is unlawful.
Posted by: heya

I rate that claim as true. NYC in particular is vicious where even air travelers forced to go through La Guardia or JFK get stranded in transit and the airport demands that they pick up their firearms, suppressors, etc. Picking them up means you get arrested and charged.

Frankly NY State is a horrible state legally and the Trump prosecutions just illustrated why any corporation or group should leave it and now Delaware for more business friendly places to incorporate and do business.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:39 PM (2swu2)

323 'The UN has issued a letter to its 193 member states warning that they face 'imminent financial COLLAPSE' after Donald Trump cut US funding'

Good!

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:40 PM (N8ZBc)

324 nood

Posted by: gp at January 30, 2026 04:41 PM (N8ZBc)

325 Until he pops a cap in their ass.

"I can fix him!"
--AWFL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2026 04:43 PM (PYyV9)

326 That's actually a trap that has been set, regulating with a tax of zero is verboten, but the law has been upheld because it's a tax... the lawsuits are ongoing.
Posted by: heya
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Miller case in 1939 used the justification of taxes to allow the US government to do what law scholars believed was impossible under the Commerce Clause doctrine of the time. That being said, the NFA, under modern commerce clause understanding is likely to be found constitutional if people try to push it to Scotus. Note that the PLCAA also relies on Commerce Clause and that would be vulnerable along with FOPA if the NFA itself was overturned.

Machine guns are not going to be legalized for the masses by this Court and probably not by Congress either. IMHO, widely available suppressors and removal of SBR/Shotguns are more important anyway for most people.

Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:44 PM (2swu2)

327 I wouldn't bring anything sharper than a banana or more shooty than a nerf gun to NYS.

Fuck that place.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2026 04:44 PM (5aZAZ)

328 I'm having a slice of cheap tombstone frozen pizza at this very moment. Don't feel like cooking on Friday.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 30, 2026 04:44 PM (oT7pT)

329 "311 The .308 in the M-14 was "overpowered", almost unusable in full auto and they over corrected that with the 5.56mm with too small a round.

Something in between should have been developed, the British actually had a good round with the .280 British, but it was rejected for NATO.
Posted by: Leupold at January 30, 2026 04:35 PM (eIzlH)"

It was developed. The M1 garand was originally, what, .276? It got retooled for WW2 because they wanted to use the mountians of 30-06 they had.

Dumb decision when they turned around and shoved more ammo into the sea in 1945 and 1946 than they fired in the war, out of pure laziness, rarher than secure, repareiate, or break it down.

5.56 is on the small end, and the M16 in particlular is problematic with small bolt lugs that make it hard to upgrade caliber, but overall it works. Nobody complains 5.45 isn't enough in Ukraine. It just isn't relevant in the big picture.

Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:45 PM (K6SBR)

330 Machine guns are not going to be legalized for the masses by this Court and probably not by Congress either. IMHO, widely available suppressors and removal of SBR/Shotguns are more important anyway for most people.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:44 PM (2swu2)
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Full auto anything is...fun, every now and then. I mean who doesn't want to squeeze the trigger for a few seconds on a belt-fed? Faggots, that's who...but for most every day purposes it's just a really expensive way to waste ammunition.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2026 04:46 PM (5aZAZ)

331 "Posted by: whig at January 30, 2026 04:44 PM (2swu2)"

The modern frt's make machinegun laws obsolete. Anyone can snag one now, effectively.

Posted by: heya at January 30, 2026 04:46 PM (K6SBR)

332 They were trying to hide it. It was just done with the typical level of shitlib incompetence.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2026 04:47 PM (SI0IF)

333 Suppressors are illegal in NY, but are legal on the Federal level and many states. I have almost a dozen now.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2026 04:24 PM (SI0IF)
****
Hold my beer.

Posted by: Commiefornia at January 30, 2026 04:48 PM (KtOUo)

334 LizLem: "They have to actually pay their own bills now, and realize their socialist paradises are built on quicksand?"

I'd love to laugh (and I am), but then I look again at US debt. Holy Moley.

I mean, we might be on the most stable sand, but it's still sand. Collapse of the dollar would be Armageddon.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 30, 2026 04:51 PM (gLikB)

335 I want to know how Bill gave his wife antibiotics "secretly." I realize this is not the point, but I have questions. Maybe he screwed up and gave her testosterone instead, as she looks a bit manly to me.

A walloping meatloaf of news today!

The "walloping meatloaf" is in memory of my brother, who used to send me thick letters in college that were hilarious...knowing I hated our mother's meatloaf with the texture of a sponge. This is what he called his letters to me.

We never did figure out what on earth she did to the meatloaf (he watched me pretend to eat it while covering it or putting in a paper napkin).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2026 04:59 PM (WONhk)

336 Posted above under wrong post.

Yes I am sober.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2026 05:00 PM (WONhk)

337
"But the healthcare I want costs more then I can afford!" Ok. Now multiply that by 330 million. The problem doesn't go away.

Either individuals pay for their own care, or governments do and governments will always be incentivized to cut costs so they can spend the money they have on other things...like their own graft
Posted by: 18-1
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It began with AIDS.
Insurance companies told Reagan they could not afford to pay out for treatments or they would go Bankrupt and everyone will DIE. (Fauci's in there somewhere) But that's when everything changed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 05:15 PM (hG1+u)

338 At the new post I'm getting a blank white page.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 05:19 PM (hG1+u)

339 This page isn’t working
ace.mu.nu is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 500

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2026 05:21 PM (hG1+u)

340 I've never understood why our troops are not equipped with silencers. All that Night Vision and Thermal Vision is cheated once you stop banging away."

That wasn't my experience as gunner for the LAV-25. 25mm M242 Bushmaster Chain Cannon. Part of our Qual was at night, never had a problem with the flash blinding night vision. We didn't have thermals on the LAV-25 in the 90s but our LAV-ATs did. It was common to use them to spot targets and even adjust our fire and I can't recall them ever complaining either.

Poor ATs. Supposed to be our insurance against T-72s but their optics were so advanced that they were routinely being called up to the front of the pack to take a look-see. Back and forth all night long.

Posted by: Fen at January 30, 2026 05:27 PM (ciYHQ)

341 NOOD psycho Spanberger:
https://acecomments.mu.nu/
?post=418316

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2026 05:32 PM (ULPxl)

342 How could you dismiss that charge? Murder through the use of a firearm.?

He bought the gun
stalked his target
Intended to kill him
Did kill him.

None of this is in dispute.

Posted by: The Whine Guy at January 30, 2026 05:59 PM (vOtXJ)

343 You know of course the only reason Winsome Smith lost is racism. And sexism.

Look, it's what they would say if the positions were reversed.

Posted by: The Whine Guy at January 30, 2026 06:00 PM (vOtXJ)

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