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Trump Sues JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon for Debanking Him, for $5 Billion in Damages

I'm not sure about this one.

Obviously I'm horrified at these woke Socialist Oligarchs using their corporate fiduciary power to push their personal political agendas -- the power of the corporation is meant to be wielded for the benefit of shareholders, not the woke cocksuckers sitting in the corner suites -- but I don't know if someone has a legal right to someone else's business.

Then again, these are banks, one of the most regulated industries in the world. It's very likely the left has cluttered the US code with all sorts of "fairness in banking" regulations.

President Donald Trump on Thursday, Jan. 22, sued JPMorgan Chase & Co. and its CEO Jamie Dimon for $5 billion, accusing the bank of dropping Trump as a client for political reasons after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The lawsuit, which Trump had threatened for days, was filed in state court in Florida as Trump returns from Davos, Switzerland, where he attended the World Economic Forum.

I find this problematic:


"Plaintiffs are confident that JPMC's unilateral decision came about as a result of political and social motivations, and b>JPMC's unsubstantiated, 'woke' beliefs that it needed to distance itself from President Trump and his conservative political views," the lawsuit reads. "In essence, JPMC debanked Plaintiffs' Accounts because it believed that the political tide at the moment favored doing so."

See, the problem is that JP Morgan will argue that it was good for the corporation to "distance itself" from Trump. Corporations get away with doing a lot of political crap -- which should be ultra vires, against the compact that created and governs the corporation -- by calling it "goodwill."

If a lefty CEO wants to donate to BLM -- obviously not something in the interest of the shareholders -- he can justify it by saying it creates public goodwill for the corporation, and therefore actually does benefit the shareholders, albeit indirectly. And judges rarely second-guess CEOs about their "goodwill" decision making. (They ought to, because CEOs use corporations to vindicate their personal agendas, but judges stay hands-off to allow corporations to donate huge amounts of money to the repulsive left.)

And I'm afraid that Trump, by stating in his own filing that JP Morgan felt it had to "distance itself" from him due to the "political tide at the moment," has made JP Morgan's defense for it.

Posted by: Ace at 06:45 PM




Comments

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1 Not enough zeroes

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 22, 2026 06:46 PM (cuae1)

2 The only flaw in the logic that I can see is that distancing the corporation from Trump was not about the public, or the market, but about the regulators and Biden administration.

So it was not a marketing-political move, like a BLM donation would be, but a pressure-from-the-politicians political move. That is very different.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 22, 2026 06:50 PM (pKhVe)

3 Plenty of zeros in JP Morgan.

IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 22, 2026 06:50 PM (iJfKG)

4 Nooded.

I didn't even get toncatch up to the current comments in the previous thread, now I have another to get into.

Posted by: tankdemon at January 22, 2026 06:50 PM (Hd1lH)

5 I agree that it's problematic, and would be a two-edged precedent. If Wells Fargo colluded with other banks to blackball deplorable depositors, it would be another kettle of fish.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 22, 2026 06:51 PM (NYInA)

6 Get them under oath and make them swear that the debanking was entirely about its own corporate pressures and that they were not coerced by any government officials whatsoever. I would wager they will not be able to testify to that without committing perjury.

Posted by: No Name Today at January 22, 2026 06:51 PM (8mulE)

7 I guess for now, Greenland is a net positive but long term, NATO is a deadweight.

Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 06:52 PM (8jVAy)

8 Trump Sues JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon for Debanking Him, for $5 Billion in Damages
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I need popcorn.

I'm willing to go along with this one. And see whether Trump wins or whether expert/judge fiat comes in and rescues it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 06:53 PM (krQz2)

9 One the one hand, yeah this strikes me as sorta specious.

On the other hand, BAKE THE CAKE, BIGOT.

Posted by: ballistic at January 22, 2026 06:53 PM (3BwY8)

10 They have been debanking conservatives for years, buy guns, bank account closed.

By the way Silver spot at $97.25 per oz. That means an average condition pre-1965 dime has $6.94 worth of silver in it.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at January 22, 2026 06:53 PM (Da7Vv)

11 That would almost cover the fine imposed in that fraudulent trial in New York.

Posted by: tankdemon at January 22, 2026 06:53 PM (Hd1lH)

12 Meh, process is the punishment.

Although if he had a paper trail of a Biden guy making a phone call it would have been better.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 22, 2026 06:53 PM (zZu0s)

13 >>> dropping Trump as a client for political reasons after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

I did not know there was an attack on the Capitol.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 22, 2026 06:54 PM (/lPRQ)

14 Morgan will settle. While they gave a good defense as Ace noted , they don't want discovery digging into who was doing what and why within the debanking groups

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 22, 2026 06:54 PM (PTsqM)

15 If Chase acted as an agent for the federal government, then Chase can be held liable even if the government told them to do something illegal.

Much harder to go after the government because qualified immunity but the discovery emails will be useful in the lawsuit and it will harm Chase's business. I'd imagine Trump is betting that Chase will settle rather than try to take it to court.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 06:55 PM (E4rtv)

16 If they can make a baker produce a homo cake, we can make them provide an account for anyone with cash to open one.

Tit for Tat.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 06:55 PM (8avO+)

17 JP Morgan is absolutely correct. It is the regulatory environment that needs to change. Democrats used the regulations and the law to have their regulatory lawyers come in and force the bank to debank Trump- and promised a substantial penalty if they didn’t. Then they sealed the entire conversation and process off by telling the bank they couldn’t talk about it. Also under penalty of law. Like holding people individually responsible.

Yes that’s allowed under current law. But Congress is very busy doing whatever they are doing. Also Trump simultaneously launched an EO that finally directed the agencies to change the regulations.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (B5Sbl)

18 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)

19 I'm not sure who's going to be the first trillionaire first - Elon Musk or Donald Trump. Seems like Trump might get there just from defamation suits.

Of course, there's also his investment in fusion energy, which might take off a lot sooner than you might think. Imagine cities being powered by power plant the size of grocery stores, and with no radioactive waste. Completely revolutionary.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (ovdkm)

20 Trump's strategy in this might be to get discovery of how much the decision was influenced by the Bind administration.

Since, the government cannot do this, he has more people on the government side to investigate and prosecute.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (krQz2)

21
JP Morgan will argue that it was good for the corporation to "distance itself" from Trump.

What if they say it will be good for the corporation to distance themselves from people of color?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 22, 2026 06:57 PM (pkeXY)

22 but I don't know if someone has a legal right to someone else's business.

I don't see it as any different than Public Accommodations laws against discrimination.

I can see discrimination against criminals and money launderers by banks but not for thoughtcrime based on pressure from leftist and Soros/Blackrock type activists.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 22, 2026 06:58 PM (6ydKt)

23 The process is the punishment. make the shitmaggots defend the lawsuits.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 06:58 PM (8zz6B)

24 JP Morgan is gonna take a charge against revenue because they will have to really pay overtime to a legion of lawyers.

Popcorn please?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 06:58 PM (2GVsD)

25 I did not know there was an attack on the Capitol.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 22, 2026 06:54 PM (/lPRQ)
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It's a barefaced water-carry for the Democratic narrative.

Protestors not being on grounds is not an "attack".

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 06:59 PM (krQz2)

26 I always liked JP Morgan on the Gong Show. She was funny.

What? Oh.

Never mind.

Posted by: Emily Litella at January 22, 2026 06:59 PM (S6sEi)

27 By the way Silver spot at $97.25 per oz. That means an average condition pre-1965 dime has $6.94 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump

Someone is getting the short squeeze and China is restricting silver exports. I understand that Comex changed its rules very recently to reduce the risk of margin calls. Hearing the London Bullion Market Assoc though is exposed in selling non existent silver in contracts coming due and not being able to get enough physical silver to settle contracts.

These are the accredited traders there
Citibank N.A. London Branch
Coin 'N Things Inc
DRW Investments, LLC
Goldmans Sachs International plc
HSBC Bank USA NA
StoneX Financial Ltd
Jane Street Global Trading LLC
JP Morgan Chase Bank N.A London Branch
Koch Supply and Trading LP
Marex
Morgan Stanley
Standard Chartered Bank
The Toronto Dominion Bank

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (E4rtv)

28 23 The process is the punishment. make the shitmaggots defend the lawsuits.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 06:58 PM (8zz6B)

Good point, maybe these big corporations will think twice before they start cancelling people for being on a Woke Blacklist somewhere.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (6ydKt)

29 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)

Well, there aren't any passage in the Bible about Donald Trump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (8zz6B)

30 The regulatory environment permits whoever is running things to abuse the system like this. It also allows them to hide what they did and penalize anyone who discloses it.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (B5Sbl)

31 but I don't know if someone has a legal right to someone else's business.
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I wouldn't say that Trump does. But that the bank allowed themselves to be an instrument of political pressure smacks of something.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (krQz2)

32 7 I guess for now, Greenland is a net positive but long term, NATO is a deadweight.
Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 06:52 PM (8jVAy)


I've read that it basically allows Europe to fund its socialized medicine, as does the practice of Big Pharma charging the US way more than them, and then building their manufacturing over there too.

Trump is going to turn that all around, of course, so maybe be won't have snooty Europeans giving us an attitude about how uncivilized our health care system is.

But I'm not sure where Greenland left off. Trump said something about a "framework for a deal", or something like that, but that's not an actual deal. Some are declaring victory for Trump, but it sounds to me like it's progress has been made, but the negotiating is ongoing.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (ovdkm)

33 (Correcting earlier post: JPMorgan, not Wells Fargo.... and I read the content!)

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 22, 2026 07:02 PM (NYInA)

34 I hope I am on that jury

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2026 07:03 PM (Ia/+0)

35 The regulatory environment permits whoever is running things to abuse the system like this. It also allows them to hide what they did and penalize anyone who discloses it.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (B5Sbl)
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So much of what they were rehashing of Jack Smith's shenanigans pointed out that he included a gag order in practically every move he made.

He even argued--and some judge bought it--that the Speaker of the House was a "flight risk", to get the court to sign off on a gag order on AT&T.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:03 PM (krQz2)

36 I've read that it basically allows Europe to fund its socialized medicine, as does the practice of Big Pharma charging the US way more than them, and then building their manufacturing over there too.

Trump is going to turn that all around, of course, so maybe be won't have snooty Europeans giving us an attitude about how uncivilized our health care system is.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (ovdkm)

NATO itself does not do that, it is EU nations shirking their NATO defense requirements that does that. Before the 90s Germany and France had serious militaries that have since atrophied to nothing.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (8avO+)

37 The winner of the $1.8 billion Powerball jackpot has come forward to claim the jackpot. They are taking the lump sum and staying anonymous.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (2GVsD)

38 Ace, regarding your last sentence in your post, that my be his main glaring fault. Too much loauacity.

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (pDt9x)

39 Ace, a more interesting question might be whether the bank violated their own very stringent rules about debanking.

I'll bet they did.

And by the way, check out Mary Erdoes' relationship with Epstein! She is the head of the bank's Asset & Wealth Management division, and in the running for Dimon's job.

https://is.gd/vuVozV

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (n9ltV)

40 Or Double Tree hotel not serving ICE agents

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (Ia/+0)

41 Man I hate typing on a phone!!

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (pDt9x)

42 Well, there aren't any passage in the Bible about Donald Trump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (8zz6B)
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There are some apoplectic bedwetters who would beg to differ.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (krQz2)

43 Man I hate typing on a phone!!
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (pDt9x)
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You should find a better surface for your keyboard.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (krQz2)

44 43 Man I hate typing on a phone!!
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (pDt9x)
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You should find a better surface for your keyboard.
Posted by: Axeman at January

Ow!!!

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:06 PM (pDt9x)

45 Well, there aren't any passage in the Bible about Donald Trump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:01 PM (8zz6B)
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There are some apoplectic bedwetters who would beg to differ.
Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:05 PM (krQz2)

Need to re-read Ezekiel's vision...might have been Trump Tower.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:06 PM (8avO+)

46 Not enough zeroes

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 22, 2026 06:46 PM (cuae1)
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What is something that wasn't said at Pearl Harbor, Alex?

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (krQz2)

47 Need to re-read Ezekiel's vision...might have been Trump Tower.

Nah, Gaylord's Presidential Library.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (2GVsD)

48 Ace, regarding your last sentence in your post, that my be his main glaring fault. Too much loauacity.
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (pDt9x)

You go to Honolulu, luaucity is part of the package.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (8zz6B)

49 willow'd
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The complete and unexplainable disregard by Congress for a judiciary that is clearly undermining the republic is beyond reason. -

the reason Congress never addresses such abuses is, because each side wants to be in charge of the abuse whenever theyhave the majority

so the deepstate will never get rid of the diabolical Thing
they want the Thing to remain available for 'next time'

Posted by: Don Black at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (ZxPkt)

50 Not being an End Times predictor kinda guy, I will stick with Trump is just- Trump.

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:08 PM (pDt9x)

51 >>>How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?

Posted by: JackStraw

>I'm willing to provide the cake, plain. I don't have to provide the icing and decorate it for a gay celebration.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 22, 2026 07:08 PM (oT7pT)

52 >>Too much loquacity.
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM

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Yep. And he can't shut it when the shuttin's good, neither.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 22, 2026 07:08 PM (NYInA)

53 I cannot imagine what President Trump must pay in legal fees every year.

Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (79pEw)

54 First wave had 43 A6M2s.

Second wave had 36.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (2GVsD)

55 the reason Congress never addresses such abuses is, because each side wants to be in charge of the abuse whenever theyhave the majority

so the deepstate will never get rid of the diabolical Thing
they want the Thing to remain available for 'next time'
Posted by: Don Black at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (ZxPkt)

I wish.

The most annoying thing about the GOPe is how they let the Dems run things even when they aren't in power, in total disregard for their own graft and power.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (8avO+)

56 Need to re-read Ezekiel's vision...might have been Trump Tower.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Snortworthy LOL.

"I saw a gleaming golden scalp weasel whirring into infinity...."

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (E4rtv)

57 48 Ace, regarding your last sentence in your post, that my be his main glaring fault. Too much loauacity.
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (pDt9x)

You go to Honolulu, luaucity is part of the package.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (8zz6B

Okay, I deserved that. Some of my other words were okay though, right??? RIGHT??

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (pDt9x)

58 The NATO clause gets me if true.

Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (8jVAy)

59 Imagine cities being powered by power plant the size of grocery stores, and with no radioactive waste. Completely revolutionary

Too cheap to meter!

Posted by: Atomic Energy Commission 1952 at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (GDXa0)

60 You go to Honolulu, luaucity is part of the package.

Just don't book the Maisey Hirono Tour package.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:10 PM (2GVsD)

61 Gold at $4995.10 per oz (all time high), just shy of $5000 per oz.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (Da7Vv)

62 Jaye P. Morgan is still with us at 94.

Posted by: Gong Show Veteran at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (oftw2)

63 so the deepstate will never get rid of the diabolical Thing
they want the Thing to remain available for 'next time'

Posted by: Don Black at January 22, 2026 07:07 PM (ZxPkt)
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See that's just it. Our selfishness is the path to do our republic in.

We like judge-fiat that goes our way, but not judge-fiat that doesn't. But I would just like to see a little more awareness that you can't push the least democratic function of government as a solution and then prattle on about "democracy".

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (krQz2)

64 Then again, these are banks, one of the most regulated industries in the world.

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An oligopoly that's "Too Big To Fail" and always bailed out by the Feral Gubmint.

Posted by: ShainS -- 'The Warmth Of Collectivism' is Code for 'Hell On Earth' at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (nXhai)

65 First wave had 43 A6M2s.

Second wave had 36.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (2GVsD)

Most of them were technically gallavanting around Oahu generally rather than braving the flak over Pearl itself. Japanese had issues protecting bombers which is why the few planes we did get up had relative success.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (8avO+)

66 Okay, I deserved that. Some of my other words were okay though, right??? RIGHT??
Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (pDt9x)

When autocucumber serves up a low floater right over the plate, you gotta take a swing at it. Right?

Let's all get normal at the luau!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:11 PM (8zz6B)

67 Just don't book the Maisey Hirono Tour package.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ewww. Is it true you can catch stupidity from someone else? I think Hirono must have infected the Democrat caucus in the Senate.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM (E4rtv)

68 Silver, 97.49. Go long on gold and silver?

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM (pDt9x)

69 The NATO clause gets me if true.
Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (8jVAy)

I think Trump's angle is to get the EU-crats to throw US out themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM (8avO+)

70 The most annoying thing about the GOPe is how they let the Dems run things even when they aren't in power
——-

Democrats screw everything up. That’s their job.

Republicans make sure it stays that way. That’s their job

Posted by: Common Tater at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (CLXqj)

71 >I'm willing to provide the cake, plain. I don't have to provide the icing and decorate it for a gay celebration.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I can ice it for you!

Posted by: Mayor Petey at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (oftw2)

72 Trump just happened to be a big guy who got debanked and the point is always discovery - giving Dimmon cover to hand over the threatening messages the Fed was sending the banks. At that same time, a lot of little people and small businesses got debanked too, because we were in unfavored industries (firearms) or a little too loud with our opinions.

The play here is to open up the can of worms that was happening behind the scenes - same as the threats that were issued to the social media platforms, news outlets and others regarding Hunter Biden's laptop or Covid.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (3aOHH)

73 64 Then again, these are banks, one of the most regulated industries in the world.

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An oligopoly that's "Too Big To Fail" and always bailed out by the Feral Gubmint.
Posted by: ShainS
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There is a reason that Andy Jackson battled with the 2nd Bank of the US. It was basically running the US government by the time he challenged it.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (E4rtv)

74 I cannot imagine what President Trump must pay in legal fees every year.
Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (79pEw)

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It's the main thing that lends any credibility to the idea that he did not know that Cohen paid of Stormy Daniels. And simply shoveled out a huge chunk of change for "services".

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (krQz2)

75 Think in Caddyshack terms.

Donald Trump is Rodney Dangerfield.

NATO is Ted Knight and the EU is his niece Lacy Underalls.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (2GVsD)

76 >I'm willing to provide the cake, plain. I don't have to provide the icing and decorate it for a gay celebration.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I can ice it for you!
Posted by: Mayor Petey at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (oftw2)

The bakery really should have just bought one from a grocery store and marked it the hell up.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (8avO+)

77 The play here is to open up the can of worms that was happening behind the scenes - same as the threats that were issued to the social media platforms, news outlets and others regarding Hunter Biden's laptop or Covid.
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (3aOHH)

That is a smart take on it!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (8zz6B)

78 Many were debanked during the COVID and Biden juntas. John Eastman, who I believe has been disbarred in California, was one that I recall...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (nbLIj)

79 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: That Guy who sonorously intones "Nothing will happen." at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (0sNs1)

80 I think Trump's angle is to get the EU-crats to throw US out themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM (8avO+)
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America is going to leave its underwear on the floor and "neglect" to put the seat back down.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (krQz2)

81 Think in Caddyshack terms.

Donald Trump is Rodney Dangerfield.

NATO is Ted Knight and the EU is his niece Lacy Underalls.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (2GVsD)

Nuh-uh. EU is Spaulding, eating boogers and all.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Savatage fan at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (0aYVJ)

82 The bakery really should have just bought one from a grocery store and marked it the hell up.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (8avO+)

A fruitcake would have been so appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (8zz6B)

83 76 >I'm willing to provide the cake, plain. I don't have to provide the icing and decorate it for a gay celebration.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I can ice it for you!
Posted by: Mayor Petey at January 22, 2026 07:13 PM (oftw2)

The bakery really should have just bought one from a grocery store and marked it the hell up.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (8avO+)

That's actually a good idea. Then if their conscience bothered them for doing it donate tge money to a food bank, say.

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:16 PM (pDt9x)

84 NATO is Ted Knight and the EU is his niece Lacy Underalls.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:14 PM (2GVsD)
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I'm alright.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:16 PM (krQz2)

85 You go to Honolulu, luaucity is part of the package.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Been there, luaucity is an option and cost extra.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 22, 2026 07:16 PM (/lPRQ)

86 68 Silver, 97.49. Go long on gold and silver?
Posted by: tubal

Momentum play on silver, gold is a traditional hedge. You see some movement out of crypto into metals though because of the possible quantum computing threat.

Silver price is apparently based on a mismatch between contracts out for silver and the apparent physical amount of silver out there to satisfy the paper contracts.

China constricting supply is another reason. But there are substitutes for it in industrial processes and many played out mines become viable again if silver stays this high.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:17 PM (E4rtv)

87 Ewww. Is it true you can catch stupidity from someone else? I think Hirono must have infected the Democrat caucus in the Senate.
Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM


We're here for you in the House.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, Jr., and Jasmine Crockett at January 22, 2026 07:17 PM (0sNs1)

88 I think Trump's angle is to get the EU-crats to throw US out themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM (8avO+)
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America is going to leave its underwear on the floor and "neglect" to put the seat back down.
Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:15 PM (krQz2)

I think Vance's "Charm offensive" of blaming them for religious intolerance, fraudulent elections, and censorship of free speech is part of it all

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:17 PM (8avO+)

89 The NATO clause gets me if true.
Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (8jVAy)
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You can't fool me, there ain't no NATO Claus!

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:17 PM (krQz2)

90 Sheesh silver is so high right now I feel like I should try to sell some of what I bought after Barky was elected. But I don't need extra $ right now so laziness will be the order of the day.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 22, 2026 07:18 PM (/jn/s)

91 America is going to leave its underwear on the floor and "neglect" to put the seat back down.
Posted by: Axeman
======
Beer rings on the tables, popcorn in the couch, and inviting the dogs to sleep on the sofa.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:18 PM (E4rtv)

92
NATO itself does not do that, it is EU nations shirking their NATO defense requirements that does that. Before the 90s Germany and France had serious militaries that have since atrophied to nothing.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:04 PM (8avO+)

People hate NATO here but not I because of power projection. That being said, only five countries meet their defense spending requirements. That needs to change with some firm kicks in the ass.

And two countries must be kicked out: Canada, and Turkey.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:19 PM (0GYGE)

93 Cold out there. I'd rather be debanked than depantsed, right now.

Posted by: Knickerless Parsons at January 22, 2026 07:19 PM (oftw2)

94 Sheesh silver is so high right now I feel like I should try to sell some of what I bought after Barky was elected. But I don't need extra $ right now so laziness will be the order of the day.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 22, 2026 07:18 PM (/jn/s)

Sadly, I don't own enough gold or silver to really take advantage of current high prices.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2026 07:20 PM (8zz6B)

95 NATO is tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: 34 Troops For 2 Days at January 22, 2026 07:20 PM (krQz2)

96 Think I could find a quick cashout for 70$ per ounce now for my silver, whig??

Posted by: tubal at January 22, 2026 07:20 PM (pDt9x)

97 *pauses*

Any baker forced to bake a cake against their will should have the customer sign a liability waiver just in case the customer fails to disclose any allergy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:20 PM (2GVsD)

98 90 Sheesh silver is so high right now I feel like I should try to sell some of what I bought after Barky was elected. But I don't need extra $ right now so laziness will be the order of the day.
Posted by: PaleRider
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I don't think the price is from use but from speculation. 216.45 percent up year to date is not sustainable. Gold is up a mere 78 percent in comparison. Sell the silver, pivot that into gold or SP500 index.

Sooner or later short squeezes end.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:20 PM (E4rtv)

99 When it's Take Your Daughter To Work Day, and Dad is a Navy SEAL

https://tinyurl.com/ykwm3fkz

Posted by: Don Black at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (ZxPkt)

100 People hate NATO here but not I because of power projection. That being said, only five countries meet their defense spending requirements. That needs to change with some firm kicks in the ass.

And two countries must be kicked out: Canada, and Turkey.
Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:19 PM (0GYGE)

NATO has zero power projection aside from the US. We saw that in the 1990s, even. And that was a generation ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (8avO+)

101 The NATO clause gets me if true.
Posted by: Accomack at January 22, 2026 07:09 PM (8jVAy)
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You can't fool me, there ain't no NATO Claus!

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:17 PM (krQz2)

I wouldn't be surprised if there never was any real intention to leave NATO.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (dK+Kv)

102 America is going to leave its underwear on the floor and "neglect" to put the seat back down.
Posted by: Axeman
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Beer rings on the tables, popcorn in the couch, and inviting the dogs to sleep on the sofa.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:18 PM (E4rtv)
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* BELCHES LOUDLY *

Posted by: 'Merica at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (krQz2)

103 NATO during Gaylord's excellent Libyan adventure ran out of munitions very quickly.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:22 PM (2GVsD)

104 NATO has zero power projection aside from the US. We saw that in the 1990s, even. And that was a generation ago.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (8avO+)

Now, a US "Foreign Legion" might be an idea.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:22 PM (8avO+)

105 Can't Trump just leave an upper-decker in Davos' toilets or something, if he wants the EU to walk away?

Posted by: XTC at January 22, 2026 07:22 PM (6Uni8)

106 18 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)

What if you are completely shut out of financial access by everyone because they disagree with you politically? You gonna start a credit union?

I see what you are saying but the wedding is one day, being able to save money, spend it in a checking account and get loans is every day.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:23 PM (0GYGE)

107 When it's Take Your Daughter To Work Day, and Dad is a Navy SEAL
https://tinyurl.com/ykwm3fkz
Posted by: Don Black

The live fire shoot house is fun for kids of all ages.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 22, 2026 07:23 PM (/lPRQ)

108 I remember when I was in England, buying a Kugerand would have been easy. Kick myself for not doing it

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (Ia/+0)

109
NATO is a costume the Euros throw over the US.

"Go get 'em. We're right behind you!"

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (krQz2)

110 I wouldn't be surprised if there never was any real intention to leave NATO.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (dK+Kv)

The only real mention of it was Denmark itself saying that a forced Greenland deal would be 'the end of NATO' and the EU going nuts in sympathy. Or that's all I've heard.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (8avO+)

111 104 NATO has zero power projection aside from the US. We saw that in the 1990s, even. And that was a generation ago.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (8avO+)


NATO is a springboard. And it is our ability to project power that is of utmost importance.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (0GYGE)

112 I am reminded of Full Metal Jacket. The scene at the mass grave. The speach by the Col.? Yeah.

Posted by: connected and litigious at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (cS1cw)

113 18 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)

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If I remember correctly the baker was decided on religious freedom grounds.

I doubt JPMorgan can make the defense along those lines.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (Vh9CX)

114 NATO is a costume the Euros throw over the US.

"Go get 'em. We're right behind you!"
Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (krQz2)

LOL they wish.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (8avO+)

115 I don't have a huge amount. But I did buy quite a few of the independent rounds back then when silver was around 25/oz. I wasn't willing to pay a premium to buy U.S. mint coins, at the time I figured if it got to the point that I needed to trade silver coins for stuff the U.S. mint mark wasn't likely to be any help.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (/jn/s)

116 NATO is Cpl Klinger in a dress with a rifle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (2GVsD)

117 If I remember correctly the baker was decided on religious freedom grounds.

I doubt JPMorgan can make the defense along those lines.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (Vh9CX)

Baker lost, didn't he?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (8avO+)

118 NATO is Cpl Klinger in a dress with a rifle.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (2GVsD)

they don't have rifles.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:26 PM (8avO+)

119 112 I am reminded of Full Metal Jacket. The scene at the mass grave. The speach by the Col.? Yeah.
Posted by: connected and litigious at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (cS1cw)

“Son, all I ask of my Marines is to obey my orders as they were the word of God. We are here to help the Viet Namese because inside every gook, there is an American trying to get out.”

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:26 PM (0GYGE)

120 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)
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Trump is not a "suspect group", though.

Sorry that's just how judge-made-law promises "Equality under law" by making different groups different cases.

It's not even supposed to be judges that enforce the 14th amendment. It says right in the amendment that the redresses are supposed to be potentially-reversible Congressional acts!

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:27 PM (krQz2)

121 NATO has zero power projection aside from the US. We saw that in the 1990s, even. And that was a generation ago.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:21 PM (8avO+)


NATO is a springboard. And it is our ability to project power that is of utmost importance.
Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (0GYGE)

Springboard to where? Our bases abroad are US Bases, not NATO.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:27 PM (8avO+)

122 117 If I remember correctly the baker was decided on religious freedom grounds.

I doubt JPMorgan can make the defense along those lines.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (Vh9CX)

Baker lost, didn't he?
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (8avO+)

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No the baker won in SCOTUS, but Colorado still hounded him like the assholes they are.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (Vh9CX)

123 18 How is JP Morgan refusing to do business with Trump different from a baker refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 22, 2026 06:56 PM (viF8m)

------

If I remember correctly the baker was decided on religious freedom grounds.

I doubt JPMorgan can make the defense along those lines.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:25 PM (Vh9CX)

Also, the bank was already doing business with these individuals, so, good luck with that analogy...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (nbLIj)

124 The only real mention of it was Denmark itself saying that a forced Greenland deal would be 'the end of NATO' and the EU going nuts in sympathy. Or that's all I've heard.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (8avO+)


Trump threatens I'LL QUIT NATO over Greenland - DailyMail 7 Days ago

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (dK+Kv)

125 De-banking someone is pretty severe. A major dick move.

If you, I or someone else not a fucking leftard was debanked.... what exactly would one think?

It's depriving you of your own money.

Communist.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (qwVdq)

126
We need to pull out of NATO.
We need to kick the UN off of American soil.
We need to tell the EU to fuck off.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (oT7pT)

127 Dimon is scum.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (RIvkX)

128 Springboard to where? Our bases abroad are US Bases, not NATO.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:27 PM (8avO+)

To, oh, I don’t know, the Middle East, and Africa. Ever been to Ramstein? We aren’t the only ones on that base. It is a de facto NATO base.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (0GYGE)

129 NATO fucking sucks. We provide the defense. They continue their ridiculous social program.

The US has been a patsy for 9 decades.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 22, 2026 07:30 PM (ydoWy)

130 96 Think I could find a quick cashout for 70$ per ounce now for my silver, whig??
Posted by: tubal
=======
Depends on your cost basis. If you bought at $20-30 bucks, the risk is you leave 300 percent return on the table. If you bought at $70, different equation. All depends on risk determination that an individual has. I have little appetite for getting rich quick so I tend to hedge in my assets rather than trying to reach a peak. Those that do can get fabulously rich or end up in the poor house. Their choice.

Momentum investments are hard to price to figure out the top of the market ride and when it all goes to shit. People are trading based on greed rather than fear not information or fundamentals like supply and demand.

Gamestop during the Wall Street Bets era hit 70 bucks, now trading about 22 bucks a share.

The famous saying is a bear can make money, a bull can make money, but a hog is always slaughtered.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:30 PM (E4rtv)

131 The only real mention of it was Denmark itself saying that a forced Greenland deal would be 'the end of NATO' and the EU going nuts in sympathy. Or that's all I've heard.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (8avO+)


Trump threatens I'LL QUIT NATO over Greenland - DailyMail 7 Days ago
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (dK+Kv)

We will now put that clause in every deal in Europe as our end of all deals.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:30 PM (8avO+)

132 No the baker won in SCOTUS, but Colorado still hounded him like the assholes they are.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (Vh9CX)
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Supreme Court verdicts just aren't for progressives.

Colorado continued to fine I think it was $50k a day or month.

Heller was a DC resident. Heller vs. DC was decided in Heller's favor in 2008. I read somebody that said that DC has yet to allow Heller to own a gun.

I guess DC's working on that.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:31 PM (krQz2)

133
I think Trump's angle is to get the EU-crats to throw US out themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:12 PM

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In its current form, NATO is a good deal for the EU. The pressure would have to be massive to get them to throw out the US. And what would be left then? NATO is the US.

These whiny little bastards are desperate for money, wherever they can get it.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 22, 2026 07:31 PM (lsrsS)

134 126
We need to pull out of NATO.
We need to kick the UN off of American soil.
We need to tell the EU to fuck off.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (oT7pT)

Translation: we need to model ourselves after Hoxha’s Albania. (Although I would like to see the UN sent packing to Geneva.). And we need to be whiny and toothless and let the PRC take over.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:31 PM (0GYGE)

135 129 NATO fucking sucks. We provide the defense. They continue their ridiculous social program.

The US has been a patsy for 9 decades.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 22, 2026 07:30 PM (ydoWy)

I cannot get over the amount of isolationists here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:32 PM (0GYGE)

136 Sadly, I don't own enough gold or silver to really take advantage of current high prices.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You could always find the fabulous Lost Dutchman's mine in the Superstition Mountains.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv)

137 My silver is doing good. Needs to keep climbing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 22, 2026 07:32 PM (ydoWy)

138 Springboard to where? Our bases abroad are US Bases, not NATO.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:27 PM (8avO+)

To, oh, I don’t know, the Middle East, and Africa. Ever been to Ramstein? We aren’t the only ones on that base. It is a de facto NATO base.
Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:29 PM (0GYGE)

It is a de jure American base. Let me know when a NATO carrier flotilla shows up anywhere.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:33 PM (8avO+)

139 Who needs NATO? Now we have Trump's Peace Club.

50% off new memberships! Offer ends 1/31/26. Void where prohibited by law.

Posted by: Don Black at January 22, 2026 07:33 PM (ZxPkt)

140 Trump recently issued an Executive Order about debanking:

Policy. It is the policy of the United States that no American should be denied access to financial services because of their constitutionally or statutorily protected beliefs, affiliations, or political views, and to ensure that politicized or unlawful debanking is not used as a tool to inhibit such beliefs, affiliations, or political views. Banking decisions must instead be made on the basis of individualized, objective, and risk-based analyses.

Seems fair to me.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 22, 2026 07:33 PM (dtajH)

141 Le CAFE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2026 07:33 PM (Ia/+0)

142 Trump threatens I'LL QUIT NATO over Greenland - DailyMail 7 Days ago
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 22, 2026 07:28 PM (dK+Kv)

We will now put that clause in every deal in Europe as our end of all deals.
Posted by: Oldcat
======
I think we trade Europe to Vlad for a country to be named later, mebbe Cuba.

Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:34 PM (E4rtv)

143 THAT MEANS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2026 07:34 PM (Ia/+0)

144 NOOD Cafe.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:34 PM (krQz2)

145 129 NATO fucking sucks. We provide the defense. They continue their ridiculous social program.

The US has been a patsy for 9 decades.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 22, 2026 07:30 PM (ydoWy)

I cannot get over the amount of isolationists here.
Posted by: Cow Demon

Not an isolationist.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 22, 2026 07:34 PM (ydoWy)

146 Banks are supposed to provide their services to anyone not engaged in illegal behavior. Even then, the illegal behavior has to be related to banking itself.

Otherwise, if banks may cite "goodwill" to de-bank for political reasons only, the blurry line of unacceptable behavior will mive further and further left. Say goodbye to your car loans, mortgages, and business loans.

Posted by: Editor at January 22, 2026 07:35 PM (bbqkM)

147 What if they say it will be good for the corporation to distance themselves from people of color?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 22, 2026 06:57 PM (pkeXY)

Or the Jews?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 22, 2026 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

148 In its current form, NATO is a good deal for the EU. The pressure would have to be massive to get them to throw out the US. And what would be left then? NATO is the US.

These whiny little bastards are desperate for money, wherever they can get it.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 22, 2026 07:31 PM (lsrsS)


Not having a war on their doorstep was ALSO a good deal for the EU. But they backed a war that they had no way of winning unless Russia collapsed like a house of cards.

I don't consider EU elites as rational actors any more.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:35 PM (8avO+)

149 The only real mention of it was Denmark itself saying that a forced Greenland deal would be 'the end of NATO' and the EU going nuts in sympathy. Or that's all I've heard.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:24 PM (8avO+)

-----------

Your terms are acceptable.

Posted by: ShainS -- 'The Warmth Of Collectivism' is Code for 'Hell On Earth' at January 22, 2026 07:36 PM (nXhai)

150 "I cannot get over the amount of isolationists here.
Posted by: Cow Demon"

It's over 10 miles from here.

Posted by: fd at January 22, 2026 07:36 PM (vFG9F)

151 Policy. It is the policy of the United States that no American should be denied access to financial services because of their constitutionally or statutorily protected beliefs, affiliations, or political views, and to ensure that politicized or unlawful debanking is not used as a tool to inhibit such beliefs, affiliations, or political views. Banking decisions must instead be made on the basis of individualized, objective, and risk-based analyses.

Seems fair to me.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 22, 2026 07:33 PM (dtajH)
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If a bank wants to debank someone, let them.

But nobody connected with a regulatory capacity should exert any pressure to decide for the bank whom they should jettison.

Posted by: Axeman at January 22, 2026 07:36 PM (krQz2)

152 I think we trade Europe to Vlad for a country to be named later, mebbe Cuba.
Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:34 PM (E4rtv)

Vlad is too smart to want Europe. He has Muslims already.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:36 PM (8avO+)

153 Beer rings on the tables, popcorn in the couch, and inviting the dogs to sleep on the sofa.
Posted by: whig at January 22, 2026 07:18 PM


Is that bad? What if they have Cozy Caves?

Asking for our favorite Mustelidae.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2026 07:37 PM (0sNs1)

154 I don't consider EU elites as rational actors any more.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2026 07:35 PM (8avO+)

-------------

I consider them virtual enemies -- and eventual literal enemies once they've become an Islamist Caliphate. #Soon.

Yet another reason to have Greenland as a buffer between them and us ...

Posted by: ShainS -- 'The Warmth Of Collectivism' is Code for 'Hell On Earth' at January 22, 2026 07:38 PM (nXhai)

155 Why did you buy silver and gold in the first place? It is not investing, it is currency speculation. A bet against the dollar. And compared to cash in the mattress, it has performed admirably.

You should be investing some of your money. Your savings - well, interest rates have been a loser for decades. Savings are another matter.

If you are truly diversified into different asset classes… Hang on to your silver and gold (and pray to God you never need it)

Posted by: Common Tater at January 22, 2026 07:38 PM (CLXqj)

156 I cannot get over the amount of isolationists here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:32 PM (0GYGE)

------------

America First =/= America Only.

Basically, the Trump Foreign Policy and Donroe Doctrine.

Posted by: ShainS -- 'The Warmth Of Collectivism' is Code for 'Hell On Earth' at January 22, 2026 07:41 PM (nXhai)

157 I don't think the price is from use but from speculation. 216.45 percent up year to date is not sustainable. Gold is up a mere 78 percent in comparison. Sell the silver, pivot that into gold or SP500 index.

Sorry you are completely wrong. The consumption of Silver for the past 5 years has exceeded production from mines and recycling by 20% per year. It isn't speculation, it is industrial demand. A Tomahawk cruise missile has 500 oz of silver in each one, and when it is used that 500 oz is vaporized and can't be recovered. Silver is the most conductive metal, and there is no substitute in the periodic table.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at January 22, 2026 07:41 PM (Da7Vv)

158 Why did you buy silver and gold in the first place? It is not investing, it is currency speculation. A bet against the dollar. And compared to cash in the mattress, it has performed admirably.

You should be investing some of your money. Your savings - well, interest rates have been a loser for decades. Savings are another matter.

If you are truly diversified into different asset classes… Hang on to your silver and gold (and pray to God you never need it)

Posted by: Common Tater at January 22, 2026 07:38 PM (CLXqj)

--------------

We bought ours years ago as a hedge against an economic and societal collapse (in a word: for a chance at post-apocalyptic survival).

But it has made us rather rich on paper ...

Posted by: ShainS -- 'The Warmth Of Collectivism' is Code for 'Hell On Earth' at January 22, 2026 07:43 PM (nXhai)

159 >>>I cannot get over the amount of isolationists here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:32 PM (0GYGE)

>Who said anything about isolationism? We need to stop bankrolling these parasites.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 22, 2026 07:46 PM (oT7pT)

160 134 Translation: we need to model ourselves after Hoxha’s Albania. (Although I would like to see the UN sent packing to Geneva.). And we need to be whiny and toothless and let the PRC take over.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 22, 2026 07:31 PM (0GYGE)

Oh yes, without Germany's 7 soldiers and France's 3 masturbating in a Ukranian forest, China would roll on into the US and kill us all.

Posted by: XTC at January 22, 2026 07:52 PM (6Uni8)

161 The reason silver price has gone up by 216.45% in one year is that it has been artificially suppressed for years. That criminal suppression is why JP Morgan was fined $920 million for spoofing the silver market to hold the price down. At the historical average 40:1 ratio between Gold and Silver Silver would indicate a price of $125 per oz for silver. Note that silver has historically coming out of the ground at 16 oz of silver for one oz of Gold. Silver is now coming out of the ground at 7 oz of Silver for one oz of Gold. In other words silver supplies are drying up.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at January 22, 2026 07:53 PM (Da7Vv)

162 Jamie Dimon could testify that the Biden Gang made him do it; Coursed him to do it, thus opening the door
to Indict Joe Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 22, 2026 08:04 PM (hVbrz)

163 Eating a Hunger Buster from DQ. This same DQ used to serve good Busters. This Buster has no meat taste and the veggies are mediocre.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 22, 2026 08:06 PM (hVbrz)

164
Silver: One Silver Dollar @ melt, $97.00.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 22, 2026 08:09 PM (hVbrz)

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat