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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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Bang
Posted by: Eromero at January 18, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at January 18, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)
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1rst.
Posted by: Reforger at January 18, 2026 07:00 PM (7ujVx)
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Mmmm -1
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:01 PM (LgsNJ)
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Guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:02 PM (xcxpd)
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BOOM BOOM BOOM
There is my 3 shot group!
Good evening everyone!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:01 PM
*measures group*
Shit Status:
[X] Wobbly
[ ] Not Wobbly
There is my 3 shot group!
Good evening everyone!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:01 PM
*measures group*
Shit Status:
[X] Wobbly
[ ] Not Wobbly
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)
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So went to the range with Lazy Messenger. I took my Ruger 10/22, which I just put a Pick rail on. I'm buying a cheap $50 dot for it as my eyes sure do want a dot over a buckhorn sight.
I kinda want a bolt action suppressed .22 but...one thing at a time.
Also did some church gun drills. Double taps were TERRIBLE again. But single shots from the holster were sufficiently accurate and slowfire was great with the G43x design.
I kinda want a bolt action suppressed .22 but...one thing at a time.
Also did some church gun drills. Double taps were TERRIBLE again. But single shots from the holster were sufficiently accurate and slowfire was great with the G43x design.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM (xcxpd)
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Wow, Sunday night already!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:05 PM (LMRVO)
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I wish I still had my Garand. Should never have sold that.
I regret nearly every gun sale I've done. Except the Bersa Thunder. That gun was a lemon.
I regret nearly every gun sale I've done. Except the Bersa Thunder. That gun was a lemon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:06 PM (xcxpd)
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S'up, Red?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (Wnv9h)
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That first M1 Garand video was filmed at the Springfield Armory museum in MA.
I stopped there with a friend who recommended it, and I was amazed at the collection.
For gun geeks, it is a must-see!
I stopped there with a friend who recommended it, and I was amazed at the collection.
For gun geeks, it is a must-see!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (n9ltV)
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Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
SGAmmo has sent an email observing that ammo orders were up significantly in November, and even more significantly in December. Plus, apparently the manufacturers are increasing prices very soon.
Weasel-san says buy ammo. Heed Weasel-san's advice.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
SGAmmo has sent an email observing that ammo orders were up significantly in November, and even more significantly in December. Plus, apparently the manufacturers are increasing prices very soon.
Weasel-san says buy ammo. Heed Weasel-san's advice.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)
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Though unsuccessful, a lot was learned from Plans 1-8.
Posted by: fd at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (vFG9F)
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Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
SGAmmo has sent an email observing that ammo orders were up significantly in November, and even more significantly in December. Plus, apparently the manufacturers are increasing prices very soon.
Weasel-san says buy ammo. Heed Weasel-san's advice.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)
It's got a good beat, you can dance to it.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
SGAmmo has sent an email observing that ammo orders were up significantly in November, and even more significantly in December. Plus, apparently the manufacturers are increasing prices very soon.
Weasel-san says buy ammo. Heed Weasel-san's advice.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)
It's got a good beat, you can dance to it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (xcxpd)
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Also did some church gun drills.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
We are Gorillas in the Mist to the typical Leftist.
Most would have no idea what your words actually mean.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
We are Gorillas in the Mist to the typical Leftist.
Most would have no idea what your words actually mean.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
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That first M1 Garand video was filmed at the Springfield Armory museum in MA.
I stopped there with a friend who recommended it, and I was amazed at the collection.
For gun geeks, it is a must-see!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (n9ltV)
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Seconded! There is also a very good family style Italian restaurant in town. The NPS people in the museum can give you directions.
I stopped there with a friend who recommended it, and I was amazed at the collection.
For gun geeks, it is a must-see!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (n9ltV)
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Seconded! There is also a very good family style Italian restaurant in town. The NPS people in the museum can give you directions.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM (U6hq+)
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17 Also did some church gun drills.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
We are Gorillas in the Mist to the typical Leftist.
Most would have no idea what your words actually mean.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
good!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
We are Gorillas in the Mist to the typical Leftist.
Most would have no idea what your words actually mean.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
good!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM (xcxpd)
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RMBS, I’ve actually started working on the ‘Ette syllabus for rifle shooting.
Not only that, I’ve got a couple of posts over at my place.
Hope y’all get a chuckle out of it!
Not only that, I’ve got a couple of posts over at my place.
Hope y’all get a chuckle out of it!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM (LMRVO)
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Got notified by CMP that my pre-ordered new production M1 is ready to ship. O frabjious day! Since I have two originals in .30-06, I got this one in 7.62 NATO.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 18, 2026 07:11 PM (yNuC6)
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I read a description of a Bedouin day at the range, circa 1880. They were still shooting matchlocks:
" they went out daily, shooting with ball at a white paper set up in an orchard wall at a hundred and twenty paces. I sat down with Fahd to see the practice ; their shots from the long Arabic matchlocks struck at few fingers’ distance all round the sheet, but rarely fell within it."
" The best was Ghranim, when he was one amongst them, for looking through spectacles, he would send his ball justly at the first shot into the midst of the white ; — this firing with the match does not unsettle the aim. "
In another part of the book the author describes how the Bedouins make their own poor quality gun powder. Part of the process involves collecting soil from areas where their livestock (camels, sheep, and goats) gathered frequently. The charcoal they made themselves, the sulphur they could get by trading off maybe a goat, or perhaps an extra wife.
" they went out daily, shooting with ball at a white paper set up in an orchard wall at a hundred and twenty paces. I sat down with Fahd to see the practice ; their shots from the long Arabic matchlocks struck at few fingers’ distance all round the sheet, but rarely fell within it."
" The best was Ghranim, when he was one amongst them, for looking through spectacles, he would send his ball justly at the first shot into the midst of the white ; — this firing with the match does not unsettle the aim. "
In another part of the book the author describes how the Bedouins make their own poor quality gun powder. Part of the process involves collecting soil from areas where their livestock (camels, sheep, and goats) gathered frequently. The charcoal they made themselves, the sulphur they could get by trading off maybe a goat, or perhaps an extra wife.
Posted by: fd at January 18, 2026 07:12 PM (vFG9F)
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I must note that Weasel Productions shutdown before the promised first-person demonstration of Garand Thumb was produced.
Coincidence? You decide.
Coincidence? You decide.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:12 PM (0sNs1)
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I got this one in 7.62 NATO.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 18, 2026 07:11 PM (yNuC6)
I’m surely hoping you share pix and reports with Weasel!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 18, 2026 07:11 PM (yNuC6)
I’m surely hoping you share pix and reports with Weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:12 PM (LMRVO)
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I got this one in 7.62 NATO.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 18, 2026 07:11 PM (yNuC6)
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You're really going to enjoy it. I love the one I have.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 18, 2026 07:11 PM (yNuC6)
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You're really going to enjoy it. I love the one I have.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:15 PM (U6hq+)
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No range report, but I did take possession of my newest acquisition on Friday.
Now the proud owner of a Tikka T3x TACT A1 in 6.5 Creedmoor. (Yaaaay)
Now the bad news, I did not get the correct ring height to mount my scope onto the rifle. Because of that the objective bell rests on the rifle leaving about a quarter inch or more gap between the tube and the bottom of the ring.
I had purchased standard height rings that had a height of .835 inches.
I am mounting a Nightforce NXS 8-32x56mm scope.
Because the objective bell was so large the ring height I should have ordered should have been 1.375 inches or higher.
So the mating of the scope to the rifle will be put off until I order the correct rings.
Now the proud owner of a Tikka T3x TACT A1 in 6.5 Creedmoor. (Yaaaay)
Now the bad news, I did not get the correct ring height to mount my scope onto the rifle. Because of that the objective bell rests on the rifle leaving about a quarter inch or more gap between the tube and the bottom of the ring.
I had purchased standard height rings that had a height of .835 inches.
I am mounting a Nightforce NXS 8-32x56mm scope.
Because the objective bell was so large the ring height I should have ordered should have been 1.375 inches or higher.
So the mating of the scope to the rifle will be put off until I order the correct rings.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:15 PM (LgsNJ)
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Taught youngest daughter to clean her Rough Rider revolver this week.
One chamber was starting to get a bit sticky, and all had some carbon(?) build up.
The patch was a little dirty after the first pass through the barrel. The second patch was clean.
I was actually amazed how clean the gun was. I believe we have put 300 rounds of cheap 22lr through the gun, including a few boxes of bare lead bullets.
Does an inexpensive gun catch LESS crud due to looser tolerances and shallower rifling?
I have cleaned shotguns after 10 rounds during a poor hunting season that were much dirtier.
One chamber was starting to get a bit sticky, and all had some carbon(?) build up.
The patch was a little dirty after the first pass through the barrel. The second patch was clean.
I was actually amazed how clean the gun was. I believe we have put 300 rounds of cheap 22lr through the gun, including a few boxes of bare lead bullets.
Does an inexpensive gun catch LESS crud due to looser tolerances and shallower rifling?
I have cleaned shotguns after 10 rounds during a poor hunting season that were much dirtier.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:15 PM (HlyYF)
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Spent the day loading coyote medicine in 243 Win. 88 gr Bergers on top of xx.x gr. varget touching the lands. Plan to administer to some patients next month in Montana!
Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM (smrxK)
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BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM (IhIKR)
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8 Shit Status:
[X] Wobbly
[ ] Not Wobbly
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
Hmmm, someone is starting the smack talk early.
[X] Wobbly
[ ] Not Wobbly
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
Hmmm, someone is starting the smack talk early.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM (LgsNJ)
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Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM (smrxK)
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Thanks for participating but please don't reference powder weights in the comments. Thanks
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Thanks for participating but please don't reference powder weights in the comments. Thanks
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:18 PM (U6hq+)
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Because the objective bell was so large the ring height I should have ordered should have been 1.375 inches or higher.
So the mating of the scope to the rifle will be put off until I order the correct rings.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:15 PM
Does this qualify as Wobbly?
So the mating of the scope to the rifle will be put off until I order the correct rings.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:15 PM
Does this qualify as Wobbly?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:19 PM (0sNs1)
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Also did some church gun drills.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
Smart given events today in Minneapolis. Protesters invaded a church.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:04 PM
Smart given events today in Minneapolis. Protesters invaded a church.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 18, 2026 07:22 PM (2WIwB)
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Pro Tip: Correctly torqueing the scope rings helps keep things from being Wobbly.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:22 PM (0sNs1)
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28 Spent the day loading coyote medicine in 243 Win. 88 gr Bergers on top of xx.x gr. varget touching the lands. Plan to administer to some patients next month in Montana!
Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM
Excellent plan.
We came out of a 2-1/2 year drought in 2025. When I was recently sitting in the deer stand I saw LOTS of fat and happy coyotes.
I assume they feasted on my burgeoning crop of rabbits, gophers, and quail.
I suspect coyote hunting will become a future hobby for me.
Good hunting to you!
Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:16 PM
Excellent plan.
We came out of a 2-1/2 year drought in 2025. When I was recently sitting in the deer stand I saw LOTS of fat and happy coyotes.
I assume they feasted on my burgeoning crop of rabbits, gophers, and quail.
I suspect coyote hunting will become a future hobby for me.
Good hunting to you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:23 PM (HlyYF)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:24 PM (cD7Zt)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 18, 2026 07:24 PM (bss/y)
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20 Not only that, I’ve got a couple of posts over at my place.
Hope y’all get a chuckle out of it!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM
Hey Red, one point of contention, the first "pic" of AR's for Emily clearly show her breaking rule #3.
Otherwise, nicely done. :-)
Hope y’all get a chuckle out of it!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM
Hey Red, one point of contention, the first "pic" of AR's for Emily clearly show her breaking rule #3.
Otherwise, nicely done. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:26 PM (LgsNJ)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
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Pillage Idiot, did you run a brass bristle brush with solvent through several times?
My experience is that the lead can still be there and not show up with patch only.
My experience is that the lead can still be there and not show up with patch only.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:27 PM (LMRVO)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2026 07:28 PM (zdLoL)
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Seconded! There is also a very good family style Italian restaurant in town. The NPS people in the museum can give you directions.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM
The Red Rose?
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:09 PM
The Red Rose?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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I had purchased standard height rings that had a height of .835 inches.
I am mounting a Nightforce NXS 8-32x56mm scope.
Gotta remember that when terms like "standard" became, um, standard, that a typical scope was a 1" tube and a 40mm bell.
I am mounting a Nightforce NXS 8-32x56mm scope.
Gotta remember that when terms like "standard" became, um, standard, that a typical scope was a 1" tube and a 40mm bell.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 18, 2026 07:29 PM (Fs0KI)
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Sorry Weasel, didn’t know, but understand.
Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM (smrxK)
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Emily clearly show her breaking rule #3.
Gonna have to talk to her about that!
Scoobs, I actually saw that, but my Grok skills are still developing. Good eyes on you.
Except for your scope rings.
Gonna have to talk to her about that!
Scoobs, I actually saw that, but my Grok skills are still developing. Good eyes on you.
Except for your scope rings.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM (LMRVO)
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Slightly off topic:
Is anybody impressed at all with the police-grade pepper balls and pepper spray's ability to incapacitate violent rioters?
I briefly considered the Byrna option for one of my daughters that wants to carry, just so she would never hesitate on the first shot.
I now think rapidly moving lead still has no substitute at this point.
Is anybody impressed at all with the police-grade pepper balls and pepper spray's ability to incapacitate violent rioters?
I briefly considered the Byrna option for one of my daughters that wants to carry, just so she would never hesitate on the first shot.
I now think rapidly moving lead still has no substitute at this point.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM (HlyYF)
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The Red Rose?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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I think that might be it! Very good food!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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I think that might be it! Very good food!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM (U6hq+)
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40 My experience is that the lead can still be there and not show up with patch only.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:27 PM
Pillage Idiot, may I ask what you were using to clean? Hoppes #9 or something similiar?
You should get to know Wipe-Out, it does a fantastic job cleaning the barrel of all that build up
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:27 PM
Pillage Idiot, may I ask what you were using to clean? Hoppes #9 or something similiar?
You should get to know Wipe-Out, it does a fantastic job cleaning the barrel of all that build up
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:31 PM (LgsNJ)
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45 Except for your scope rings.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM
Never gonna live that down. :-)
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM
Never gonna live that down. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:32 PM (LgsNJ)
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Iran may be falling right now. Tousi TV reported that the internet came back (regime said it would be down until March) about 3 hours ago. Someone hacked all the TV channels and has been broadcasting messages from Pahlavi.
Of course everything is still uncertain.
Of course everything is still uncertain.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 18, 2026 07:33 PM (kvcnI)
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I think that might be it! Very good food!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM
They were smart not to sell out to the casino. They're practically coining money now.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:30 PM
They were smart not to sell out to the casino. They're practically coining money now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:33 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Charles Martel at January 18, 2026 07:33 PM (smrxK)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:34 PM (U6hq+)
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Missed the stance thread, but an excellent video. He says that a stance is more correctly a technique and has a good presentation on the history of shooting techniques.
Made it to the range with my new AR9 this week, will be nice when the weather gets warmer.
Made it to the range with my new AR9 this week, will be nice when the weather gets warmer.
Posted by: KDKong at January 18, 2026 07:35 PM (Bc40B)
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40 Pillage Idiot, did you run a brass bristle brush with solvent through several times?
My experience is that the lead can still be there and not show up with patch only.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:27 PM
We did NOT.
She got the mandatory bleeding fingertip injury while running a brand new brush through the cylinder chambers. (I told her that was my fault for failing to warn her.)
The barrel still looked pristine upon visual examination.
Can you SEE the lead deposits in your match-grade .22 barrel? Do you only shoot copper jacketed?
My experience is that the lead can still be there and not show up with patch only.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:27 PM
We did NOT.
She got the mandatory bleeding fingertip injury while running a brand new brush through the cylinder chambers. (I told her that was my fault for failing to warn her.)
The barrel still looked pristine upon visual examination.
Can you SEE the lead deposits in your match-grade .22 barrel? Do you only shoot copper jacketed?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:37 PM (HlyYF)
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Weasel,
Thanks for including the M1 maintenance videos. When I qualified on the Garand mumble-mumble years ago at Fort Meade they showed us the basics but it's good to refresh my memory.
Thanks for including the M1 maintenance videos. When I qualified on the Garand mumble-mumble years ago at Fort Meade they showed us the basics but it's good to refresh my memory.
Posted by: JTB at January 18, 2026 07:37 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:37 PM (U6hq+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:38 PM (U6hq+)
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Once is happenstance. Twice is enemy
ICE agents with rooms booked at the DoubleTree by Hilton in downtown St. Paul were reportedly notified their reservations were canceled as the hotel announced a temporary closure, citing “heightened public safety concerns in St. Paul.”
The letter stated that the hotel would be temporarily closed, with reservations canceled by noon on Sunday, January 18.
https://tinyurl.com/3rw54z64
ICE agents with rooms booked at the DoubleTree by Hilton in downtown St. Paul were reportedly notified their reservations were canceled as the hotel announced a temporary closure, citing “heightened public safety concerns in St. Paul.”
The letter stated that the hotel would be temporarily closed, with reservations canceled by noon on Sunday, January 18.
https://tinyurl.com/3rw54z64
Posted by: rickb223 at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (0x0rk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (pkeXY)
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sra blaster's father passed away Friday. He was in a nursing home in Colombia. They weren't especially close but she was hit pretty hard regardless, but she's much better now.
Her dad was a character, I guess. Some gub stuff: as a younger man in Colombia he was running a thrift store. Some guys came in to rob the place. He resisted. So they shot him in the torso - with a shotgun. He survived, obviously. Birdshot. But that's a story!
When he came to the US he had a job as a cab driver in NYC in the 70s. He got robbed at gunpoint (in the 70s in NYC what are the odds?) He testified against the man who held him up. Turns out the Mafia was running a taxi stick up ring. (I found this surprising.) So because he testified he and the family got relocated to Detroit, which is where sra blaster grew up.
I have no deets on the firearms involved in these stories.
Her dad was a character, I guess. Some gub stuff: as a younger man in Colombia he was running a thrift store. Some guys came in to rob the place. He resisted. So they shot him in the torso - with a shotgun. He survived, obviously. Birdshot. But that's a story!
When he came to the US he had a job as a cab driver in NYC in the 70s. He got robbed at gunpoint (in the 70s in NYC what are the odds?) He testified against the man who held him up. Turns out the Mafia was running a taxi stick up ring. (I found this surprising.) So because he testified he and the family got relocated to Detroit, which is where sra blaster grew up.
I have no deets on the firearms involved in these stories.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
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Howdy Scoobs!
Yes, was just using #9.
Thanks for the Wipe-Out recommendation.
Daughter #2 wants to shoot her Savage .22 rifle much more now that I have started improving our range.
The Great Karnak sees PI cleaning lots of .22 lead fouling in his future!
Yes, was just using #9.
Thanks for the Wipe-Out recommendation.
Daughter #2 wants to shoot her Savage .22 rifle much more now that I have started improving our range.
The Great Karnak sees PI cleaning lots of .22 lead fouling in his future!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:41 PM (HlyYF)
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Good evening as another weekend blitzes past. Sat in a nice deer stand and watched the sun come up over the fields on a friend’s farm. Nothing moving, but it was great watching the world wake up.
Thanks as always Weasel and wishing all of the GunHorde a great week.
Thanks as always Weasel and wishing all of the GunHorde a great week.
Posted by: Coelacanth at January 18, 2026 07:41 PM (DJPFk)
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Does an inexpensive gun catch LESS crud due to looser tolerances and shallower rifling?
I have cleaned shotguns after 10 rounds during a poor hunting season that were much dirtier.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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22 LR is a bit cleaner that it used to be and the fact that this gun is new means bore finish is probably better than days of yore. Older primers used to use crushed glass as part of the formula and it scoured barrels over time. Steel was often not as good either especially in low cost rimfire firearms.
I think since at least the 90's, crushed glass has been dropped for domestic ammo primers from the bigs-Remington, Winchester, and Federal.
A good smooth barrel from the middle of a run (before and after the tooling may either produce burrs or chatter), often will not lead much if kept up.
Use plated, it won't lead much period but even good ole Thunderbolt if the barrel is absent machining marks much, won't lead much if at all.
Sometimes you luck out on such firearms and sometimes you don't.
I have cleaned shotguns after 10 rounds during a poor hunting season that were much dirtier.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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22 LR is a bit cleaner that it used to be and the fact that this gun is new means bore finish is probably better than days of yore. Older primers used to use crushed glass as part of the formula and it scoured barrels over time. Steel was often not as good either especially in low cost rimfire firearms.
I think since at least the 90's, crushed glass has been dropped for domestic ammo primers from the bigs-Remington, Winchester, and Federal.
A good smooth barrel from the middle of a run (before and after the tooling may either produce burrs or chatter), often will not lead much if kept up.
Use plated, it won't lead much period but even good ole Thunderbolt if the barrel is absent machining marks much, won't lead much if at all.
Sometimes you luck out on such firearms and sometimes you don't.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:42 PM (E4rtv)
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61 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM
Sorry for sra blasters loss, prayers for you and the family
Sorry for sra blasters loss, prayers for you and the family
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:42 PM (LgsNJ)
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Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM
Damn. Condolences, blaster.
Damn. Condolences, blaster.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)
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Will lots of dry firing improve my accuracy with pistols?
Posted by: M. Gaga at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (KiBMU)
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Bench Report!
I received the box of Berry’s plated semi wadcutters in .45 ACP, 200 grain.
Last week I reviewed my notes and remembered that I had loaded for a 200 g Hornady FTX hollow point and that I had found a good load of TiteGroup. I had a few bullets left, so I loaded accordingly and chronoed them.
885 FPS and I’m aiming for 875 on the new round.
Loaded up a ladder all around that weight and will be hitting the range this week
I really like the Lead SWC and am hoping that the copper plating is as good. Help with cleaning, too.
That is all.
I received the box of Berry’s plated semi wadcutters in .45 ACP, 200 grain.
Last week I reviewed my notes and remembered that I had loaded for a 200 g Hornady FTX hollow point and that I had found a good load of TiteGroup. I had a few bullets left, so I loaded accordingly and chronoed them.
885 FPS and I’m aiming for 875 on the new round.
Loaded up a ladder all around that weight and will be hitting the range this week
I really like the Lead SWC and am hoping that the copper plating is as good. Help with cleaning, too.
That is all.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (LMRVO)
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Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (LMRVO)
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I've been using Berry's plated bullets for years. Just don't push them too hard. I think they recommend loading for unjacketed rounds.
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I've been using Berry's plated bullets for years. Just don't push them too hard. I think they recommend loading for unjacketed rounds.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:46 PM (U6hq+)
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I know I asked this a couple weeks ago, but at age 29 I tend to let slip important information like with the 6.5 Creedmoor, what is a good factory round to get out to a 1,000 and beyond?
Will put an order through the gun store I got the rifle from as that is the only way I can purchase ammo without having to travel long distances to freer States.
Will put an order through the gun store I got the rifle from as that is the only way I can purchase ammo without having to travel long distances to freer States.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:47 PM (LgsNJ)
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FWIW, pistol length barrels in 22 LR are much less likely to lead simply because the barrels are short and any deficiencies in mfg, chatter, burrs, etc. can be seen usually. Plus, you are shooting at the bottom of the pressure curve with a revolver due to the cylinder gap, throats are often more generous on cheap firearms (throat is at the end of the cylinder fwiw), and a smooth proper trajectory for a forcing cone can mean less leading.
Rifle length get up to higher velocity and you get a different pressure curve plus at least 10-12 inches longer for any mfg problems in the bore, rod damage, etc. to show up.
Rifle length get up to higher velocity and you get a different pressure curve plus at least 10-12 inches longer for any mfg problems in the bore, rod damage, etc. to show up.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:47 PM (E4rtv)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at January 18, 2026 07:48 PM (sAmhv)
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I googled it, this was part of the AI powered answer:
Key Takeaway: While the classic mob movie trope of a "mafia taxi robbery" isn't a documented major event, the intersection of organized crime (like the Lufthansa Heist) and the persistent issue of taxi driver victimization by street criminals shows a history of vulnerability for drivers in NYC.
Guess AI doesn't know everything.
Key Takeaway: While the classic mob movie trope of a "mafia taxi robbery" isn't a documented major event, the intersection of organized crime (like the Lufthansa Heist) and the persistent issue of taxi driver victimization by street criminals shows a history of vulnerability for drivers in NYC.
Guess AI doesn't know everything.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:48 PM (cD7Zt)
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65 61 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM
Sorry for sra blasters loss, prayers for you and the family
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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What scuba dude said. Seems to be tough winter for a lot of people at AOS this year.
Sorry for sra blasters loss, prayers for you and the family
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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What scuba dude said. Seems to be tough winter for a lot of people at AOS this year.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:49 PM (E4rtv)
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Sometimes you luck out on such firearms and sometimes you don't.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:42 PM
Bride of PI (new shooter) took lessons from Steck at the MoMe.
She used that cheap gun to put five in a row on the 4" plate, reloaded, and then did five more in a row on steel by the end of the lesson.
Modern American (Florida) manufacturing techniques for the win!
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:42 PM
Bride of PI (new shooter) took lessons from Steck at the MoMe.
She used that cheap gun to put five in a row on the 4" plate, reloaded, and then did five more in a row on steel by the end of the lesson.
Modern American (Florida) manufacturing techniques for the win!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:49 PM (HlyYF)
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Weasel-san is correct.
Load plated like lead, not jacketed. Same with Hi Tek and powder coated bullets.
Some report signs of bore wear with firing lots of powder coated but YMMV.
Load plated like lead, not jacketed. Same with Hi Tek and powder coated bullets.
Some report signs of bore wear with firing lots of powder coated but YMMV.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (E4rtv)
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Can you SEE the lead deposits in your match-grade .22 barrel? Do you only shoot copper jacketed?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:37 PM (HlyYF)
Nope, can’t see fouling, unless you put a bore scope in. But it’s there. The schmutz you can see is powder residue.
I only shoot high end lead 22 ammo for competition and save the copper for my 10-22.
And having said that, I only clean the competition barrels from lead if they start showing loss of accuracy. The chamber I keep clean.
But on a revolver, I’d keep the whole thing clean on general principle.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:37 PM (HlyYF)
Nope, can’t see fouling, unless you put a bore scope in. But it’s there. The schmutz you can see is powder residue.
I only shoot high end lead 22 ammo for competition and save the copper for my 10-22.
And having said that, I only clean the competition barrels from lead if they start showing loss of accuracy. The chamber I keep clean.
But on a revolver, I’d keep the whole thing clean on general principle.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (LMRVO)
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From the First World Problems thread:
Andy Ngo @MrAndyNgo
Minneapolis (Jan. 17) — Far-left extremists pursued anti-Islam activist Jake Lang for several city streets with impunity after pulling off a ledge & beating him. Once he got in a car, they refused to let him leave & beat him more. Video by @Julio_Rosas11:
X video (00:32): https://bit.ly/3LGRSp4
This is what we're talking about when we say you need to be prepped and mentally ready. This is why you need to understand where the legal redlines are and where your personal redlines are. This is why you need all the other stuff besides a gun and ammo - the preparation, the gaming of scenarios, the plans for bad things happening.
Also why you should not wander into these situations without backup. /waves at Blaster and Sra Blaster living as a team/
Andy Ngo @MrAndyNgo
Minneapolis (Jan. 17) — Far-left extremists pursued anti-Islam activist Jake Lang for several city streets with impunity after pulling off a ledge & beating him. Once he got in a car, they refused to let him leave & beat him more. Video by @Julio_Rosas11:
X video (00:32): https://bit.ly/3LGRSp4
This is what we're talking about when we say you need to be prepped and mentally ready. This is why you need to understand where the legal redlines are and where your personal redlines are. This is why you need all the other stuff besides a gun and ammo - the preparation, the gaming of scenarios, the plans for bad things happening.
Also why you should not wander into these situations without backup. /waves at Blaster and Sra Blaster living as a team/
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (QNH/l)
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For everyone's amusement. A while back I saw a question on the interwebs about black powder cartridges in a Garand. Don't recall where I saw it or why the matter came up.
I hope the questioner was discouraged from trying it. Can you imagine what the fouling of black powder would do to the mechanics? Or cleaning things sufficiently? And I seriously doubt you could get enough black powder in the case to cycle the action. It's a very different pressure curve.
I hope the questioner was discouraged from trying it. Can you imagine what the fouling of black powder would do to the mechanics? Or cleaning things sufficiently? And I seriously doubt you could get enough black powder in the case to cycle the action. It's a very different pressure curve.
Posted by: JTB at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (yTvNw)
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Prayers up for sra blaster.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (HlyYF)
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I assume the recoil with the 7.62 M1s is similar to the 30-06?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (U/Byj)
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Will put an order through the gun store I got the rifle from as that is the only way I can purchase ammo without having to travel long distances to freer States.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:47 PM
I was able to get slightly less than 1/2 MOA at 200 yards with S&B 142 gr HPBT. Not that expensive.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 07:47 PM
I was able to get slightly less than 1/2 MOA at 200 yards with S&B 142 gr HPBT. Not that expensive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (Wnv9h)
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Biggest fundamental I noticed right away with that woman in the first video? She is NOT wearing a low cut shirt. She is prepped for nasty hot brass trying to get to second base with her. Good on ya, ma'am!
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:53 PM (QNH/l)
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PI, don't forget to clean the front face of the cylinder and ejector rod too.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 07:53 PM (BCwQW)
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Here's a topic for discussion that I was thinking about last week but then we got going on something else and I sort of forgot.
What do you look for, positively or negatively, when going into a gun shop for the first time? There is a large retailer here where about half the staff are neck-bearded millennials walking around with tactical vests, empty plate carriers, and pistols holstered either in the middle of the chest or slung down at the knee. Which I might have been able to ignore if they were at least helpful. I went into another, much smaller, shop to get info about their concealed carry licensing class and they guy basically told me to look it up on their website. Sometimes you get lucky and find a shop that has friendly, knowledgeable staff and, as a bonus, and decent inventory but it seems like those are fewer and farther between these days. "Big box" stores like Bass Pro and Sheel's have OK inventory and professional staff but they're basically all the same.
What do you look for, positively or negatively, when going into a gun shop for the first time? There is a large retailer here where about half the staff are neck-bearded millennials walking around with tactical vests, empty plate carriers, and pistols holstered either in the middle of the chest or slung down at the knee. Which I might have been able to ignore if they were at least helpful. I went into another, much smaller, shop to get info about their concealed carry licensing class and they guy basically told me to look it up on their website. Sometimes you get lucky and find a shop that has friendly, knowledgeable staff and, as a bonus, and decent inventory but it seems like those are fewer and farther between these days. "Big box" stores like Bass Pro and Sheel's have OK inventory and professional staff but they're basically all the same.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM (Fs0KI)
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I’ve been invited to help a high-fence rancher slaughter his herd of white tail so he can make room for more exotic species.
These are good friends and I’d love to be invited for an actual hunt. But something about this seems off. Like it’s off-season, with no processing. They’re going to dig a big hole with a backhoe and bury all the carcasses.
Should I be concerned? What questions should I ask without giving offense or presuming to tell someone their business?
These are good friends and I’d love to be invited for an actual hunt. But something about this seems off. Like it’s off-season, with no processing. They’re going to dig a big hole with a backhoe and bury all the carcasses.
Should I be concerned? What questions should I ask without giving offense or presuming to tell someone their business?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM (jYRYu)
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Ironically, just this morning I passed on the action rifle match - felt like sleeping in and also the number of shooters has led to the introduction of (short) par times, sort of defeating the whole "fun" element. Lots of movement, some physical work, which I much prefer to anything static. But one reloading issue/jam/whatever, and you end shooting 1/3 of a stage. Boring.
Still have to go unpack my s**t. I take both a Garand for the main range stages and an M1 carbine for the short range work.
Still have to go unpack my s**t. I take both a Garand for the main range stages and an M1 carbine for the short range work.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM (U/Byj)
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Went to Phoenix Gun Show today. Got an extra mag for the Eibar Ruby .32; it fits the mag well, and locks in place OK. Need to get some snap caps to see how it feeds. I reblued it with some Birchwood cold blue, and it looks much better. Finish si now less blotchy
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (8zz6B)
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Nope, can’t see fouling, unless you put a bore scope in. But it’s there. The schmutz you can see is powder residue.
But on a revolver, I’d keep the whole thing clean on general principle.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM
Thanks Red.
She wants to shoot Ladies Day this week, so we cleaned and picked up more ammo.
I will make sure to solvent and brush the barrel well on the next cleaning!
But on a revolver, I’d keep the whole thing clean on general principle.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM
Thanks Red.
She wants to shoot Ladies Day this week, so we cleaned and picked up more ammo.
I will make sure to solvent and brush the barrel well on the next cleaning!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq+)
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Blaster, please give sra blaster my condolences.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (LMRVO)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 18, 2026 07:56 PM (0KSrI)
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Being on target is nice.
It is more effective if you are precisely on target. Even with a nuke, you get better effects with good shot placement. (See! Fundamentals!) But planners plan for minute oftorso city so they account for all the things that can go wrong. (Like, sometimes having to shoot a city again.)
It is more effective if you are precisely on target. Even with a nuke, you get better effects with good shot placement. (See! Fundamentals!) But planners plan for minute of
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:56 PM (QNH/l)
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84 PI, don't forget to clean the front face of the cylinder and ejector rod too.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 07:53 PM
I did teach her those two ... from your cleaning seminar.
She also learned the difference between a nylon and brass brush. Kids these days!
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 07:53 PM
I did teach her those two ... from your cleaning seminar.
She also learned the difference between a nylon and brass brush. Kids these days!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:57 PM (HlyYF)
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Weasel, did you watch that video about black powder in modern semi-automatic weapons? Was it acceptable?
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:57 PM (QNH/l)
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Bride of PI (new shooter) took lessons from Steck at the MoMe.
She used that cheap gun to put five in a row on the 4" plate, reloaded, and then did five more in a row on steel by the end of the lesson.
Modern American (Florida) manufacturing techniques for the win!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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You should be proud.
Females often shoot far better at first and are generally more coachable than males. Better hand eye coordination. If she can master a double action revolver pull, then it will serve her well in trigger technique on most firearms including rifles.
That is because the double action requires doing all of Weasel's fundamentals on trigger pull correct for accuracy with no gimmicks like catching the link, etc. You have to literally row the trigger back and forth.
If a person can master a snubbie double action trigger pull, then shooting anything else feels almost like cheating.
And fwiw, to teach double action trigger pulls, I would go with a used revolver, a Smith and Wesson Model 10 or variant of their K-Frame line. Used revolvers are broken in and smoother if there are no mechanical problems.
She used that cheap gun to put five in a row on the 4" plate, reloaded, and then did five more in a row on steel by the end of the lesson.
Modern American (Florida) manufacturing techniques for the win!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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You should be proud.
Females often shoot far better at first and are generally more coachable than males. Better hand eye coordination. If she can master a double action revolver pull, then it will serve her well in trigger technique on most firearms including rifles.
That is because the double action requires doing all of Weasel's fundamentals on trigger pull correct for accuracy with no gimmicks like catching the link, etc. You have to literally row the trigger back and forth.
If a person can master a snubbie double action trigger pull, then shooting anything else feels almost like cheating.
And fwiw, to teach double action trigger pulls, I would go with a used revolver, a Smith and Wesson Model 10 or variant of their K-Frame line. Used revolvers are broken in and smoother if there are no mechanical problems.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 07:57 PM (E4rtv)
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Weasel, did you watch that video about black powder in modern semi-automatic weapons? Was it acceptable?
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:57 PM (QNH/l)
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Sorry - not yet.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:57 PM (QNH/l)
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Sorry - not yet.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:58 PM (U6hq+)
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FGMM 140's should perform well.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq
Concur. Highly.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq
Concur. Highly.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:58 PM (LMRVO)
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Thanks for the Gub Thread, Weasel.
Thanks for the advice, all of the rest of you Morons.
Dinner bell is ringing. (I will come back and read the whole thread later.)
Thanks for the advice, all of the rest of you Morons.
Dinner bell is ringing. (I will come back and read the whole thread later.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 18, 2026 07:58 PM (HlyYF)
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Nope, can’t see fouling, unless you put a bore scope in.
FWIW, the digital bore scopes like the Tesalong for < $100 are pretty decent.
FWIW, the digital bore scopes like the Tesalong for < $100 are pretty decent.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 18, 2026 08:00 PM (Fs0KI)
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98 FGMM 140's should perform well.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq
Concur. Highly.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:58 PM (LMRVO)
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Looking at the specs on the Federal website that's pretty much exactly what I was loading for my 260 Remington.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq
Concur. Highly.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 07:58 PM (LMRVO)
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Looking at the specs on the Federal website that's pretty much exactly what I was loading for my 260 Remington.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:00 PM (U6hq+)
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Posted by: Oddbob at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM (Fs0KI)
I'd see if they're willing to say, "I don't know about (topic of choice)" and refer you to someone else on the staff who knows more about the subject or just admit that they don't know much about what you're asking about. Given the wide variety of topics that the staff might have to field, I think it's unlikely that any one person will have answers for everything under the sun.
I'd see if they're willing to say, "I don't know about (topic of choice)" and refer you to someone else on the staff who knows more about the subject or just admit that they don't know much about what you're asking about. Given the wide variety of topics that the staff might have to field, I think it's unlikely that any one person will have answers for everything under the sun.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:01 PM (BCwQW)
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sra blaster corrects me on one of the stories - it wasn't in Colombia where her father was shot - it was Detroit in the 80s! It was a sawed off shotgun and he had shot coming out of him for years.
And she thanks you for the prayers and condolences.
And she thanks you for the prayers and condolences.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 08:01 PM (cD7Zt)
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To legally buy ammo in California, any ammo, you have to be registered with the government as the owner of a gun in that caliber. Long guns included. The law was changed to that in 2014.
Any firearms purchased now require a state background check that leaves a permanent state record of ownership. They haven't gone after possession of guns purchased before the law changed -- yet. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if older state background checks provided unofficial (illegal) records that are still retained. Nothing I can do about that.
I'm not aware of law enforcement solving any crimes with this information. I can only think of one reason for doing this: to have the option of confiscation.
I will not be buying ammo.
To legally buy ammo in California, any ammo, you have to be registered with the government as the owner of a gun in that caliber. Long guns included. The law was changed to that in 2014.
Any firearms purchased now require a state background check that leaves a permanent state record of ownership. They haven't gone after possession of guns purchased before the law changed -- yet. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if older state background checks provided unofficial (illegal) records that are still retained. Nothing I can do about that.
I'm not aware of law enforcement solving any crimes with this information. I can only think of one reason for doing this: to have the option of confiscation.
I will not be buying ammo.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:01 PM (azNOR)
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Weasel! You have outdone yourself with this collection of M-1 vids! I will be saving the links and sharing them with my friends who also possess this magnificent instrument. The only other weapon it needs paired with it (which I have) is the Colt .45. Thanx for the post!
Posted by: Dr_No at January 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ayRl+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:02 PM (U6hq+)
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88 Went to Phoenix Gun Show today. Got an extra mag for the Eibar Ruby .32; it fits the mag well, and locks in place OK. Need to get some snap caps to see how it feeds. I reblued it with some Birchwood cold blue, and it looks much better. Finish si now less blotchy
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Cold bluing is easier for a lot of people to use and Oxpho Blue produces pretty good results if done by directions.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Cold bluing is easier for a lot of people to use and Oxpho Blue produces pretty good results if done by directions.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:03 PM (E4rtv)
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85 Posted by: Oddbob at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM
In my short time as a firearm enthusiast I have only visited the shops that were dedicated solely to firearms.
The first shop that I frequented was about an hour or more drive from me and located outside of NYC. The guy I mainly dealt with(maybe 5 or 10 years younger than me) I thought was knowledgeable until he said I needed to get a different spring if I wanted to shoot something other than 185 grain.
The second shop is the one I just used to purchase my newest rifle. This place is located only 20 or so minutes from me and run by much younger people. I am getting a good vibe and will continue to go to them and give them my business
In my short time as a firearm enthusiast I have only visited the shops that were dedicated solely to firearms.
The first shop that I frequented was about an hour or more drive from me and located outside of NYC. The guy I mainly dealt with(maybe 5 or 10 years younger than me) I thought was knowledgeable until he said I needed to get a different spring if I wanted to shoot something other than 185 grain.
The second shop is the one I just used to purchase my newest rifle. This place is located only 20 or so minutes from me and run by much younger people. I am getting a good vibe and will continue to go to them and give them my business
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:03 PM (LgsNJ)
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Hi
I'm here.
I'm sad.
Another Sunday without a range report.
Target Sports USA has Syntech 124 gr 9mm for $.29/rd. i think that is a very good price for this fancy ammo so will order ammo this week in the hope that eventually I will get to the range.
I'm here.
I'm sad.
Another Sunday without a range report.
Target Sports USA has Syntech 124 gr 9mm for $.29/rd. i think that is a very good price for this fancy ammo so will order ammo this week in the hope that eventually I will get to the range.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 18, 2026 08:03 PM (t/2Uw)
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86 Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 18, 2026 07:54 PM
Depends, what do the local laws say about shooting on private lands out of season?
Depends, what do the local laws say about shooting on private lands out of season?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:07 PM (LgsNJ)
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(Like, sometimes having to shoot a city again.)
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:56 PM
Anything worth nuking once...
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 07:56 PM
Anything worth nuking once...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:07 PM (Wnv9h)
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Having said what I said in praise of the Fundamentals woman, I now have to say... that wasn't that informative. "Here's some words and what they mean." Which shouldn't be that hard to sus out on your own.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 08:07 PM (QNH/l)
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I hope the questioner was discouraged from trying it. Can you imagine what the fouling of black powder would do to the mechanics? Or cleaning things sufficiently? And I seriously doubt you could get enough black powder in the case to cycle the action. It's a very different pressure curve.
Posted by: JTB
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People do bad shit to firearms everyday becuz someone got an itch and a bit of misinformation.
When they do it to classic firearms like a Garand that are now beyond the reach of a lot of folks, it is simply a vile practices.
Want to play with blackpowder, get a blackpowder firearm, no reason to bugger up a Garand to show you could.
Same with idiots that like to fire massively over pressure hot rounds, or shoot something with the 1940's or earlier ammo they found in papaw's shed, etc.
Posted by: JTB
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People do bad shit to firearms everyday becuz someone got an itch and a bit of misinformation.
When they do it to classic firearms like a Garand that are now beyond the reach of a lot of folks, it is simply a vile practices.
Want to play with blackpowder, get a blackpowder firearm, no reason to bugger up a Garand to show you could.
Same with idiots that like to fire massively over pressure hot rounds, or shoot something with the 1940's or earlier ammo they found in papaw's shed, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)
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In another part of the book the author describes how the Bedouins make their own poor quality gun powder. Part of the process involves collecting soil from areas where their livestock (camels, sheep, and goats) gathered frequently.
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That's where everybody got their saltpeter. If it wasn't purified properly, that would due to lack of knowledge. Extract the dirt, add wood ashes, filter, crystallize, recrystallize.
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In another part of the book the author describes how the Bedouins make their own poor quality gun powder. Part of the process involves collecting soil from areas where their livestock (camels, sheep, and goats) gathered frequently.
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That's where everybody got their saltpeter. If it wasn't purified properly, that would due to lack of knowledge. Extract the dirt, add wood ashes, filter, crystallize, recrystallize.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:08 PM (azNOR)
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An M-1 thread - yea!!
To be honest, I rarely take my baby to the local ranges. It turns out everyone want to take her for a walk and I won't get a chance to caress her gas-operated, semi-automatic, shoulder-fired bad self that feeds from an eight-round en bloc clip.
To be honest, I rarely take my baby to the local ranges. It turns out everyone want to take her for a walk and I won't get a chance to caress her gas-operated, semi-automatic, shoulder-fired bad self that feeds from an eight-round en bloc clip.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 18, 2026 08:09 PM (cYBz/)
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Scoobs, did you go to yesterday’s post about British Pathway Amelia?
The whole idea is a hoot in the fight against UK censorship.
Gonna do my little part.
The whole idea is a hoot in the fight against UK censorship.
Gonna do my little part.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:09 PM (LMRVO)
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Oh, one sad note about having the new rifle delivered to an FFL in NYC.
The two 10 round mags are being neutered to 5 rounds.
This is only in NYC, if I had gone to an FFL in the rest of NY there would be no problem.
Stupid laws.
The two 10 round mags are being neutered to 5 rounds.
This is only in NYC, if I had gone to an FFL in the rest of NY there would be no problem.
Stupid laws.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:10 PM (LgsNJ)
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That's where everybody got their saltpeter. If it wasn't purified properly, that would due to lack of knowledge. Extract the dirt, add wood ashes, filter, crystallize, recrystallize.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:08 PM
See, e.g., The Firefox Book, vol. 5.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:08 PM
See, e.g., The Firefox Book, vol. 5.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:11 PM (Wnv9h)
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.22 revolvers: Keep an eye on the forcing cone (end of the barrel closest to the cylinder) for excessive leading. I was once testing a dozen different flavors of .22LR in a nice S&W when it suddenly began spraying shots all over the target. I stopped shooting to see what the problem was.
When I pushed a patch down the bore, a silver miniature Cheerio fell into my hand. Apparently the gun had taken a violent dislike to the last batch of cheap, discount brand plain lead ammo I was using. After clearing the lead build up and changing ammo, all was well.
When I pushed a patch down the bore, a silver miniature Cheerio fell into my hand. Apparently the gun had taken a violent dislike to the last batch of cheap, discount brand plain lead ammo I was using. After clearing the lead build up and changing ammo, all was well.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 18, 2026 08:11 PM (sqSJJ)
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This is only in NYC, if I had gone to an FFL in the rest of NY there would be no problem.
Stupid laws.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:10 PM
NYC laws...gay and lame.
Stupid laws.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:10 PM
NYC laws...gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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Word of advice for anyone cold bluing, make sure that no silicone containing products were used on the firearm--wipes, solvents (often CLP type), etc.
It will produce blotchy results as the stain (cold bluing is a stain) won't take right. Have to strip the silicone products off before it will work.
I know this by the usual way--trial and error on a small part--a side magazine cover for an 1896 Krag. It ended up producing a funky appearance similar to Nitre bluing. Swirls of straw, blue, etc.
It will produce blotchy results as the stain (cold bluing is a stain) won't take right. Have to strip the silicone products off before it will work.
I know this by the usual way--trial and error on a small part--a side magazine cover for an 1896 Krag. It ended up producing a funky appearance similar to Nitre bluing. Swirls of straw, blue, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)
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NYC laws...gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (LMRVO)
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116 Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:09 PM
No I did not but will rectify that.
Anything to thumb my nose at the UK's decent into totalitarianism.
No I did not but will rectify that.
Anything to thumb my nose at the UK's decent into totalitarianism.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:14 PM (LgsNJ)
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NYC laws...gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM
*nods sagely*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM
*nods sagely*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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120 NYC laws...gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM
No challenge there
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM
No challenge there
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:17 PM (LgsNJ)
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Fundamentals! Fundamentals! Fundamentals!
Pssst: SHOT show is this week
New Toys! New Toys! New Toys!
Pssst: SHOT show is this week
New Toys! New Toys! New Toys!
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:19 PM (7DKa5)
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Word of advice for anyone cold bluing, make sure that no silicone containing products were used on the firearm--wipes, solvents (often CLP type), etc.
It will produce blotchy results as the stain (cold bluing is a stain) won't take right. Have to strip the silicone products off before it will work.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, what about cleaning cloth impregnated w/ silicone? I've seen these for sale at my LGS, gun shows, and more over the years. Should these be verboten w/ cold bluing?
It will produce blotchy results as the stain (cold bluing is a stain) won't take right. Have to strip the silicone products off before it will work.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, what about cleaning cloth impregnated w/ silicone? I've seen these for sale at my LGS, gun shows, and more over the years. Should these be verboten w/ cold bluing?
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (BCwQW)
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Great thread Weasel.
I'm working on another cigar report. Will send it in a day or two.
I'm working on another cigar report. Will send it in a day or two.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (2WIwB)
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When I pushed a patch down the bore, a silver miniature Cheerio fell into my hand. Apparently the gun had taken a violent dislike to the last batch of cheap, discount brand plain lead ammo I was using. After clearing the lead build up and changing ammo, all was well.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
That can also sometimes happen due to a revolver's timing being off.
FWIW, Ruger double action revolvers after 1976 are not designed to shoot lead as their forcing cone angle IIRC 5 percent is too abrupt and they end up leading far more than an S&W or Colt would. They used the more generous 11 -18 percent depending on the model and whether work had been done to them.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
That can also sometimes happen due to a revolver's timing being off.
FWIW, Ruger double action revolvers after 1976 are not designed to shoot lead as their forcing cone angle IIRC 5 percent is too abrupt and they end up leading far more than an S&W or Colt would. They used the more generous 11 -18 percent depending on the model and whether work had been done to them.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv)
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BTW, thanks to the suggestions last week about using rubbing alcohol to help stretch the leather in molding my new holster for the G 21.
After two applications (and some pulling), I was able to get the thumb break to snap on.
The only downside is that the alcohol did a number on the shoe black on the leather.
Ant recommendations for refinishing?
After two applications (and some pulling), I was able to get the thumb break to snap on.
The only downside is that the alcohol did a number on the shoe black on the leather.
Ant recommendations for refinishing?
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (LMRVO)
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... about half the staff are neck-bearded millennials walking around with tactical vests, empty plate carriers, and pistols holstered either in the middle of the chest or slung down at the knee. Which I might have been able to ignore if they were at least helpful.
I think I have been to that store. Maybe three times and decided I would rather go with the more sterile BassPro from here on out.
I think I have been to that store. Maybe three times and decided I would rather go with the more sterile BassPro from here on out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 18, 2026 08:22 PM (/lPRQ)
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Red, would you believe that Tikka came with a muzzle brake? I might install it temporarily and only take it off when I go to Texas in October.
But I will take the rifle to the range and put a couple rounds through before considering putting the brake on.
But I will take the rifle to the range and put a couple rounds through before considering putting the brake on.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:22 PM (LgsNJ)
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Whig, what about cleaning cloth impregnated w/ silicone? I've seen these for sale at my LGS, gun shows, and more over the years. Should these be verboten w/ cold bluing?
Posted by: Ed L
If you use such, don't expect cold bluing that firearm to do quite right. You can get some gorgeous resembling old nitre bluing with that ( I suspect restoration types do that nowadays). But often, depending on the steel, you get blotchy uptake. Droplets of water that ball up often show silicone had been used, often in a wiping cloth.
If you already have the cold bluing on the firearm, silicone wiping cloths, solvents, etc. won't disturb it but you won't be able to retouch it again without issues.
Posted by: Ed L
If you use such, don't expect cold bluing that firearm to do quite right. You can get some gorgeous resembling old nitre bluing with that ( I suspect restoration types do that nowadays). But often, depending on the steel, you get blotchy uptake. Droplets of water that ball up often show silicone had been used, often in a wiping cloth.
If you already have the cold bluing on the firearm, silicone wiping cloths, solvents, etc. won't disturb it but you won't be able to retouch it again without issues.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:23 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:23 PM (13bqY)
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We are watching the most recent season of Cold Justice over this weekend. Lots of gub stuff they don't focus on.
We saw one where the victim was shot with a .38 or .357 revolver. 5 times in the head. In a brief shot of the police report it says something about possibly Ruger, Smith & Wesson, or Colt.
I am not sure how they arrived at that given they had no info and no casings.
Maybe the presumption was that the gun had been emptied into the victim and those were manufacturers of 5 shot revolvers?
We saw one where the victim was shot with a .38 or .357 revolver. 5 times in the head. In a brief shot of the police report it says something about possibly Ruger, Smith & Wesson, or Colt.
I am not sure how they arrived at that given they had no info and no casings.
Maybe the presumption was that the gun had been emptied into the victim and those were manufacturers of 5 shot revolvers?
Posted by: blaster at January 18, 2026 08:24 PM (cD7Zt)
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Ant recommendations for refinishing?
Posted by: RI Red
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Shoe polish on the leather and buff.
Posted by: RI Red
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Shoe polish on the leather and buff.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (BCwQW)
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FGMM 140's should perform well.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq+)
Pretty much the gold standard. Although...I have had good results with Norma Golden Target 143 grain. And it is slightly less expensive, which is always a good thing!
But I think both loads are more accurate than I am!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 07:55 PM (U6hq+)
Pretty much the gold standard. Although...I have had good results with Norma Golden Target 143 grain. And it is slightly less expensive, which is always a good thing!
But I think both loads are more accurate than I am!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (n9ltV)
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Scoobs, as irritating as the brake may be to people on either side, it really tames the rifle so you can get back on target and maybe even spot your own shot.
When you’re up here in the Spring, we’ll all stand behind you.
When you’re up here in the Spring, we’ll all stand behind you.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (LMRVO)
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Update: Last week I reported that a Prodigy I was messing with would have the hammer stop on the half-cock notch every time the trigger was pulled.
Turned out that the sear spring's sear leaf was too long, and was hitting the frame, so it only worked as a spring for the first part of the sear's travel. I'd love to say that I figured that out with a series of brilliant deductions, but what really happened was that I had the beavertail out and I just kept staring at the innards while repeatedly cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger, until I noticed something didn't look right.
Turned out that the sear spring's sear leaf was too long, and was hitting the frame, so it only worked as a spring for the first part of the sear's travel. I'd love to say that I figured that out with a series of brilliant deductions, but what really happened was that I had the beavertail out and I just kept staring at the innards while repeatedly cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger, until I noticed something didn't look right.
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (7DKa5)
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We really need to bring back actual speedy trials in America.
And implement laws that punish prosecutors and witnesses (cops or not) for lying about the accused.
And implement laws that punish prosecutors and witnesses (cops or not) for lying about the accused.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 08:26 PM (QNH/l)
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139 When you’re up here in the Spring, we’ll all stand behind you.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM
**makes note not to drop the soap** :-p
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM
**makes note not to drop the soap** :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:27 PM (LgsNJ)
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And implement laws that punish prosecutors and witnesses (cops or not) for lying about the accused.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 08:26 PM (QNH/l)
Accountability. You're talking about accountability!
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 08:26 PM (QNH/l)
Accountability. You're talking about accountability!
Posted by: blaster at January 18, 2026 08:28 PM (cD7Zt)
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Posted by: blaster at January 18, 2026 08:24 PM (cD7Zt)
I don't think Colt has made a 5-shot revolver in over 100 years. They did make some 4-shot snubbie revolvers in the black powder era ("Cloverleafs") but I'm not aware of anything in the smokeless era from Colt that didn't hold six rounds.
I don't think Colt has made a 5-shot revolver in over 100 years. They did make some 4-shot snubbie revolvers in the black powder era ("Cloverleafs") but I'm not aware of anything in the smokeless era from Colt that didn't hold six rounds.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:28 PM (BCwQW)
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until I noticed something didn't look right.
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (7DKa5)
Congrats! You are now a gunsmith!
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:25 PM (7DKa5)
Congrats! You are now a gunsmith!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:28 PM (LMRVO)
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We saw one where the victim was shot with a .38 or .357 revolver. 5 times in the head. In a brief shot of the police report it says something about possibly Ruger, Smith & Wesson, or Colt.
I am not sure how they arrived at that given they had no info and no casings.
Maybe the presumption was that the gun had been emptied into the victim and those were manufacturers of 5 shot revolvers?
Posted by: blaster
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Those 3 mfgs covered probably 80-90 percent of revolvers being used. Taurus in the US was an after thought for a long time and some EAA imported revolvers were a rounding error.
From Ed Harris, former Ruger firearm designer,
"You are correct that Colt is one turn in 14,” because that's what their old tooling was and it's always been that way... The Colts give the best accuracy with wadcutters and 158-gr. lead.
Ruger single-action .357s are 16” and button rifled. Ruger double-action .38 / .357s, Security Six, Police Service Six, Speed Six, GP100 and SP101 are 18-3/4” twist, as are S&W. "
I am not sure how they arrived at that given they had no info and no casings.
Maybe the presumption was that the gun had been emptied into the victim and those were manufacturers of 5 shot revolvers?
Posted by: blaster
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Those 3 mfgs covered probably 80-90 percent of revolvers being used. Taurus in the US was an after thought for a long time and some EAA imported revolvers were a rounding error.
From Ed Harris, former Ruger firearm designer,
"You are correct that Colt is one turn in 14,” because that's what their old tooling was and it's always been that way... The Colts give the best accuracy with wadcutters and 158-gr. lead.
Ruger single-action .357s are 16” and button rifled. Ruger double-action .38 / .357s, Security Six, Police Service Six, Speed Six, GP100 and SP101 are 18-3/4” twist, as are S&W. "
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:31 PM (E4rtv)
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I don't think Colt has made a 5-shot revolver in over 100 years. They did make some 4-shot snubbie revolvers in the black powder era ("Cloverleafs") but I'm not aware of anything in the smokeless era from Colt that didn't hold six rounds.
Posted by: Ed L
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Some idiots still believe that you should carry a double action revolver on an open cylinder like the old single actions (before transfer blocks were added to those).
Posted by: Ed L
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Some idiots still believe that you should carry a double action revolver on an open cylinder like the old single actions (before transfer blocks were added to those).
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:33 PM (E4rtv)
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145 Congrats! You are now a gunsmith!
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:28 PM (LMRVO)
And here I thought "I can fix her" were the most dangerous words ever spoken.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:28 PM (LMRVO)
And here I thought "I can fix her" were the most dangerous words ever spoken.
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:34 PM (7DKa5)
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It's time. I am near gublessness. My safe echos. I still have a trusty old one or two for old time's sake. Such is life.
Oh, whip. I have a complete receiver for a 98 Kraig, in no bbl or stock. Any use
Oh, whip. I have a complete receiver for a 98 Kraig, in no bbl or stock. Any use
Posted by: javems at January 18, 2026 08:35 PM (jrjl5)
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And here I thought "I can fix her" were the most dangerous words ever spoken.
Posted by: Splunge
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If you start using a Dremel tool around firearms, stop.
Posted by: Splunge
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If you start using a Dremel tool around firearms, stop.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:35 PM (E4rtv)
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Shoe polish on the leather and buff.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)
Ja, Whig. I had my polish, handkerchief and spit (well, water) going, but there are different areas of discoloration, from almost bare leather to original finish.
I may just strip it all down and start from scratch.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)
Ja, Whig. I had my polish, handkerchief and spit (well, water) going, but there are different areas of discoloration, from almost bare leather to original finish.
I may just strip it all down and start from scratch.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:36 PM (30Gj0)
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148 And here I thought "I can fix her" were the most dangerous words ever spoken.
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:34 PM
As long as the preceding words were not "Hold my beer" you are ok.
Posted by: Splunge at January 18, 2026 08:34 PM
As long as the preceding words were not "Hold my beer" you are ok.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:36 PM (LgsNJ)
Posted by: javems at January 18, 2026 08:37 PM (jrjl5)
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Those 3 mfgs covered probably 80-90 percent of revolvers being used.
Whig I guess that makes sense - I think the case involved was late 80s early 90s so probably even more to the point.
Still seems awfully speculative to include in a police report. Of course there would be lots of other info in the case docs that they didn't get a shot of on screen.
Whig I guess that makes sense - I think the case involved was late 80s early 90s so probably even more to the point.
Still seems awfully speculative to include in a police report. Of course there would be lots of other info in the case docs that they didn't get a shot of on screen.
Posted by: blaster at January 18, 2026 08:39 PM (cD7Zt)
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Some idiots still believe that you should carry a double action revolver on an open cylinder like the old single actions (before transfer blocks were added to those).
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:33 PM (E4rtv)
Wasn't that fixed by Colt and S&W around WWII? Even the "modern" transfer bar safeties have been around for 50 years and more (I think).
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:33 PM (E4rtv)
Wasn't that fixed by Colt and S&W around WWII? Even the "modern" transfer bar safeties have been around for 50 years and more (I think).
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:41 PM (BCwQW)
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Very sorry to hear that sra blaster. Sounds as though he had a very full and varied life.
Posted by: Coelacanth at January 18, 2026 08:42 PM (DJPFk)
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Oh, whip. I have a complete receiver for a 98 Kraig, in no bbl or stock. Any use
Posted by: javems
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I deeply appreciate the offer. But already have several Krags and can no longer fire them (impending spinal surgery coming).
If the receiver is a full action and includes the bolt, etc., I think several people here might be interested. Barrels are still available and sporter stocks are still around. The Krag is one of the slickest bolt actions ever made and the height of Springfield Armory craftsmanship (and I am including the Garand).
The 1898 falls right on the line between being an antique and thus not a firearm or a firearm requiring an FFL for transfer. Offhand, I think serial number 162000 for the 1898 makes the difference. Below that serial number, it is an antique with no more interest for the ATF or most states than a paperweight.
Posted by: javems
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I deeply appreciate the offer. But already have several Krags and can no longer fire them (impending spinal surgery coming).
If the receiver is a full action and includes the bolt, etc., I think several people here might be interested. Barrels are still available and sporter stocks are still around. The Krag is one of the slickest bolt actions ever made and the height of Springfield Armory craftsmanship (and I am including the Garand).
The 1898 falls right on the line between being an antique and thus not a firearm or a firearm requiring an FFL for transfer. Offhand, I think serial number 162000 for the 1898 makes the difference. Below that serial number, it is an antique with no more interest for the ATF or most states than a paperweight.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:42 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks for the info RMBS, RI Red, Weasel and CBD. I have written down so I do not have to ask again.
Going to call it a night.
Thank you Weasel as always.
Everyone have a great week!!!
Going to call it a night.
Thank you Weasel as always.
Everyone have a great week!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 18, 2026 08:43 PM (LgsNJ)
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Had to get permission to stay up late to watch "Plan 9" on Creature Feature.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 18, 2026 08:45 PM (RIvkX)
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Good night, Scuba Dude!
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:45 PM (BCwQW)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks to our host Weasel for the longevity of this forum.
Prayers up for sra blaster and all the blast radius surrounding her.
Prayers up for sra blaster and all the blast radius surrounding her.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at January 18, 2026 08:45 PM (v23vE)
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Wasn't that fixed by Colt and S&W around WWII? Even the "modern" transfer bar safeties have been around for 50 years and more (I think).
Posted by: Ed L
Earlier. For double action revolvers, hammer blocks were de rigeur since the K Frame and the Colt Navy and Army came out. Smith changed from the long action to the current one after WWII because of an accident on board with a Victory model. It fell on the hammer and overcame the hammer block. So Smith went from a springloaded hammer block to a cam design.
Posted by: Ed L
Earlier. For double action revolvers, hammer blocks were de rigeur since the K Frame and the Colt Navy and Army came out. Smith changed from the long action to the current one after WWII because of an accident on board with a Victory model. It fell on the hammer and overcame the hammer block. So Smith went from a springloaded hammer block to a cam design.
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Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at January 18, 2026 08:45 PM (v23vE)
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Thanks for being here and participating!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:47 PM (As86G)
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No range report. Thanks Weasel for the M1 Garand information. Shooting my three M1 rifles and two M1 carbines and 1903s and 1917s is on the to do list for early spring. I am looking for a source of WW1 style wood for two 1903 Springfields. It is 18 degrees with only a few inches of fresh snow, not good for shooting at an outdoor range.
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at January 18, 2026 08:47 PM (yJcPp)
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Whig I guess that makes sense - I think the case involved was late 80s early 90s so probably even more to the point.
Still seems awfully speculative to include in a police report. Of course there would be lots of other info in the case docs that they didn't get a shot of on screen.
Posted by: blaster
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If they had the slugs, rifling engraved on the slugs would tell them a story as the bullets themselves would differ.
But a lot of police work is educated guessing which gets them into trouble now and again when someone innocent gets accused.
Still seems awfully speculative to include in a police report. Of course there would be lots of other info in the case docs that they didn't get a shot of on screen.
Posted by: blaster
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If they had the slugs, rifling engraved on the slugs would tell them a story as the bullets themselves would differ.
But a lot of police work is educated guessing which gets them into trouble now and again when someone innocent gets accused.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv)
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Before they were tragically lost in a kayak accident on the Rio Grande, I had two Garands. One manufactured in 1940 and the other in 43 or 44. I only shot them a few times. I need to dredge the river and pull them and clean them up. I've seen a few of these videos. I'll watch them all this week. I also have, er, had a M1 Carbine. FUN!
Posted by: JML at January 18, 2026 08:48 PM (EtRph)
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Little Tommy practicing FUNDAMENTALS!
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 08:49 PM (QNH/l)
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Whig, I have Pate's book and read the chapter about that unintended discharge from that USN Victory Model. That's why I thought Colt and S&W had the hammer block problem solved by WWII at the latest. But it seems that both Colt and S&W had addressed the problem 30+ years earlier.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 08:49 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks for posting the videos!
Posted by: JML at January 18, 2026 08:49 PM (EtRph)
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164 No range report. Thanks Weasel for the M1 Garand information. Shooting my three M1 rifles and two M1 carbines and 1903s and 1917s is on the to do list for early spring. I am looking for a source of WW1 style wood for two 1903 Springfields. It is 18 degrees with only a few inches of fresh snow, not good for shooting at an outdoor range.
Posted by: Bond in Michigan
That era is getting scarce for stocks without paying primo prices as in over 400-500 bucks or more depending on refinishing and cartouches.
Try checking Dupont Trading in Arizona every so often as they sometimes get old stocks from parade rifle sources. Another source, someone who I have not dealt with personally, is oldguns dot net. You might have to restore an old cut stock like a WWI era fingergroove with a later front piece. Oldguns dot net folks have such frequently on their website. Think they go around teh Western state gun show circuit buying and trading.
Posted by: Bond in Michigan
That era is getting scarce for stocks without paying primo prices as in over 400-500 bucks or more depending on refinishing and cartouches.
Try checking Dupont Trading in Arizona every so often as they sometimes get old stocks from parade rifle sources. Another source, someone who I have not dealt with personally, is oldguns dot net. You might have to restore an old cut stock like a WWI era fingergroove with a later front piece. Oldguns dot net folks have such frequently on their website. Think they go around teh Western state gun show circuit buying and trading.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:51 PM (E4rtv)
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168 Whig, I have Pate's book and read the chapter about that unintended discharge from that USN Victory Model. That's why I thought Colt and S&W had the hammer block problem solved by WWII at the latest. But it seems that both Colt and S&W had addressed the problem 30+ years earlier.
Posted by: Ed L
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Colt never had the problem that Smith did with hammer blocks but Colt metallurgy was generally superior to Smith through the 1960's.
The older Colt Lightning double action revolver has no hammer block I think but haven't honestly examined the innards of one to check.
Iver Johnson came out with the transfer bar safety in 1894 fwiw.
Posted by: Ed L
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Colt never had the problem that Smith did with hammer blocks but Colt metallurgy was generally superior to Smith through the 1960's.
The older Colt Lightning double action revolver has no hammer block I think but haven't honestly examined the innards of one to check.
Iver Johnson came out with the transfer bar safety in 1894 fwiw.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:54 PM (cIOlQ)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 08:55 PM (cIOlQ)
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Well, no new guys, but did get to .22 some more. The 10/22 CF is awesome, still no issues w/Sig, and the Henry (GB) is just a hoot.
And yes, bought ammo...
And yes, bought ammo...
Posted by: man at January 18, 2026 08:55 PM (XuXeR)
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174 Well, no new guys, but did get to .22 some more. The 10/22 CF is awesome, still no issues w/Sig, and the Henry (GB) is just a hoot.
And yes, bought ammo...
Posted by: man
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You have some primo toys to shoot.
And yes, bought ammo...
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You have some primo toys to shoot.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)
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You have some primo toys to shoot"
Sadly, they tend to get lost in between range trips. Funny about that...
Also - sort of in the market for a .308. Prefer bolt and shorter barrel. I've more invites for hog clearing.
Sadly, they tend to get lost in between range trips. Funny about that...
Also - sort of in the market for a .308. Prefer bolt and shorter barrel. I've more invites for hog clearing.
Posted by: man at January 18, 2026 09:00 PM (XuXeR)
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Ant recommendations for refinishing?
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (LMRVO)
Black permanent marker.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (LMRVO)
Black permanent marker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 09:00 PM (n9ltV)
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Sadly, they tend to get lost in between range trips. Funny about that...
Also - sort of in the market for a .308. Prefer bolt and shorter barrel. I've more invites for hog clearing.
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Muzzle blast without a forward compensator or brake can be an issue below 18 inches.
I would try to find one with a threaded barrel so you could go suppressed if you wanted without messing with a gunsmith.
Also - sort of in the market for a .308. Prefer bolt and shorter barrel. I've more invites for hog clearing.
Posted by: man
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Muzzle blast without a forward compensator or brake can be an issue below 18 inches.
I would try to find one with a threaded barrel so you could go suppressed if you wanted without messing with a gunsmith.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:03 PM (E4rtv)
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"81 I assume the recoil with the 7.62 M1s is similar to the 30-06?" Posted by: rhomboid at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (U/Byj)
I don't remember any difference. I have not shot 30.06 or 7.62 NATO in years. One of mine is 7.62 x 51 the other 2 are 30.06. A Saginaw gun shop was offering a Springfield 30.06 with bayonet for $1325. I may call them to see if it has been sold.
I don't remember any difference. I have not shot 30.06 or 7.62 NATO in years. One of mine is 7.62 x 51 the other 2 are 30.06. A Saginaw gun shop was offering a Springfield 30.06 with bayonet for $1325. I may call them to see if it has been sold.
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at January 18, 2026 09:04 PM (yJcPp)
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find one with a threaded barrel"
That's the plan. Looks as if I'll get the chance to try a couple soon...
That's the plan. Looks as if I'll get the chance to try a couple soon...
Posted by: man at January 18, 2026 09:06 PM (XuXeR)
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Iver Johnson came out with the transfer bar safety in 1894 fwiw.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)
I would not have picked Iver Johnson as the first to introduce the transfer bar safety.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)
I would not have picked Iver Johnson as the first to introduce the transfer bar safety.
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 09:06 PM (BCwQW)
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Any recommendations for refinishing?
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (LMRVO)
Black permanent marker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 09:00 PM (n9ltV)
Aha!
Maybe just some plain old automotive grease.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:20 PM (LMRVO)
Black permanent marker.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 18, 2026 09:00 PM (n9ltV)
Aha!
Maybe just some plain old automotive grease.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 09:10 PM (U3+Mh)
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Posted by: Bond in Michigan
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FWIW, I forgot to mention that both Sarco and Numrich have had the older WWI era replica stocks for 1903s now and again for about $200 or so.
You might also find some replica stocks at CMP's online store.
The WWI era do use different handguards (high hump) if you want to be period perfect.
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FWIW, I forgot to mention that both Sarco and Numrich have had the older WWI era replica stocks for 1903s now and again for about $200 or so.
You might also find some replica stocks at CMP's online store.
The WWI era do use different handguards (high hump) if you want to be period perfect.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:10 PM (E4rtv)
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I would not have picked Iver Johnson as the first to introduce the transfer bar safety.
Posted by: Ed L
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Their old ads were a hoot. Hammer the safety, literally using a hammer on the revolver hammer and it still not firing. You can find images online.
Decently made pocketguns for concealed carry for the most part and Iver had its market in an era where a 32 S&W Long gutshot could result in death.
Iver got a bad rep later on primarily because they did not change with the times but until near the end, they made some quality firearms albeit in tame cartridges suitable for top breaks. H&R can also be regarded similarly.
Posted by: Ed L
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Their old ads were a hoot. Hammer the safety, literally using a hammer on the revolver hammer and it still not firing. You can find images online.
Decently made pocketguns for concealed carry for the most part and Iver had its market in an era where a 32 S&W Long gutshot could result in death.
Iver got a bad rep later on primarily because they did not change with the times but until near the end, they made some quality firearms albeit in tame cartridges suitable for top breaks. H&R can also be regarded similarly.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:14 PM (E4rtv)
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Just watched the movie "Homestead."
It's about preppers and something bad happening.
The city guy comes up and wants a list of all the guns this guy has. And he does not shoot him and throw him in the compost heap. They guy has MULTIPLE M2 .50 cal machine guns (admittedly, they appear to shoot 7.62 NATO rounds, based on the brass hitting the ground...). For him to acquire those, no matter how rich he is, he HAS to know the legal ins and outs of Class 3 gun ownership. But he just lets the guy threaten him (after a nuke has gone off, etc.) and doesn't even get in his knickers about the Constitution and all. I was very disappointed. (A LOT of cliches in that movie. A LOT.)
It's about preppers and something bad happening.
The city guy comes up and wants a list of all the guns this guy has. And he does not shoot him and throw him in the compost heap. They guy has MULTIPLE M2 .50 cal machine guns (admittedly, they appear to shoot 7.62 NATO rounds, based on the brass hitting the ground...). For him to acquire those, no matter how rich he is, he HAS to know the legal ins and outs of Class 3 gun ownership. But he just lets the guy threaten him (after a nuke has gone off, etc.) and doesn't even get in his knickers about the Constitution and all. I was very disappointed. (A LOT of cliches in that movie. A LOT.)
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:15 PM (QNH/l)
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Aha!
Maybe just some plain old automotive grease.
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Ruins leather but methinks you are joking. Shoe polish is what I use on old leather holsters as it won't crack the leather.
You have to use old style military tricks for raw boots if you want to fix the rough unfinished leather of a holster into a glossy black or brown finish.
Maybe just some plain old automotive grease.
Posted by: RI Red
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Ruins leather but methinks you are joking. Shoe polish is what I use on old leather holsters as it won't crack the leather.
You have to use old style military tricks for raw boots if you want to fix the rough unfinished leather of a holster into a glossy black or brown finish.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:16 PM (E4rtv)
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It's got a good beat, you can dance to it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (xcxpd)
More like you can make the other guy dance to it.
"Dance, greenhorn, dance!" BLAM BLAM BLAM
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at January 18, 2026 07:08 PM (xcxpd)
More like you can make the other guy dance to it.
"Dance, greenhorn, dance!" BLAM BLAM BLAM
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:18 PM (QNH/l)
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NYC laws...gay and lame.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM
The complete lack of quality picante sauce is definitely symptomatic.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
And their shit is all retarded.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM
The complete lack of quality picante sauce is definitely symptomatic.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 09:18 PM (0sNs1)
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Time for geezers to hit the hay. Happy trails to all.
Posted by: Eromero at January 18, 2026 09:19 PM (LHPAg)
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Got my M1 feom CMP a few years ago, along with a couple of ammo cans. Fun gun to shoot.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 18, 2026 09:19 PM (XMwZJ)
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(A LOT of cliches in that movie. A LOT.)
Posted by: GWB
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EOTWAWKI fantasies never did much for me as the truth is a depressing downer where a lot of people are going to die in masses after any nuke exchange when the internal economy shuts down.
My guess, major nuclear exchange or societal breakdown will result in 80-90 percent casualties within weeks of it happening from fighting, disease, preexisting medical weaknesses (no insulin for example), etc.
Posted by: GWB
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EOTWAWKI fantasies never did much for me as the truth is a depressing downer where a lot of people are going to die in masses after any nuke exchange when the internal economy shuts down.
My guess, major nuclear exchange or societal breakdown will result in 80-90 percent casualties within weeks of it happening from fighting, disease, preexisting medical weaknesses (no insulin for example), etc.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:20 PM (E4rtv)
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OK, 9:22 thank you time!
Thank you!
Sure appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!
Thank you!
Sure appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:22 PM (zMLZ6)
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Well, Thanks for the thread Weasel and I hope retirement is not too onerous with delayed projects.
Hope the doggehs are all right.
Hope the doggehs are all right.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:23 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at January 18, 2026 09:24 PM (BCwQW)
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You have to use old style military tricks for raw boots if you want to fix the rough unfinished leather of a holster into a glossy black or brown finish.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:16 PM (E4rtv)
One of the early tricks I was shown was the wax wrapper of a Babybel cheese. After the right color is achieved with kiwi that wax will shine up like glass if you know what you are doing.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:16 PM (E4rtv)
One of the early tricks I was shown was the wax wrapper of a Babybel cheese. After the right color is achieved with kiwi that wax will shine up like glass if you know what you are doing.
Posted by: Reforger at January 18, 2026 09:24 PM (7ujVx)
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Hope the doggehs are all right.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:23 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks whig! The doggos got their first ride in the new truck for a nail trim, so big excitement. All good here, thanks!
Hope the doggehs are all right.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:23 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks whig! The doggos got their first ride in the new truck for a nail trim, so big excitement. All good here, thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:25 PM (zMLZ6)
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My pleasure, Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:26 PM (zMLZ6)
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Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)"
Don't forget the balancing act. 100k rounds doesn't matter if you only have 2 days of food, or 1 day of water.
I reiterate my suggestion of 10k rounds per shooter in the household, some basic spares ... and then food/water stacked deeper than you probably think you need.
But balance both in turn vs housing and emergency funds. All the ammo and food won't help if you get evicted.
Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo Buy Ammo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 18, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)"
Don't forget the balancing act. 100k rounds doesn't matter if you only have 2 days of food, or 1 day of water.
I reiterate my suggestion of 10k rounds per shooter in the household, some basic spares ... and then food/water stacked deeper than you probably think you need.
But balance both in turn vs housing and emergency funds. All the ammo and food won't help if you get evicted.
Posted by: heya at January 18, 2026 09:26 PM (23NNO)
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That's the plan. Looks as if I'll get the chance to try a couple soon...
Posted by: man
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Have fun shopping. Lots of modern rifles out there with eyepopping accuracy due to modern mfg techniques. Cheaper suppressors also change the game.
Posted by: man
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Have fun shopping. Lots of modern rifles out there with eyepopping accuracy due to modern mfg techniques. Cheaper suppressors also change the game.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:28 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks for a great Gub Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 09:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 09:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks for being here and participating!
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Thanks for being here and participating!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:28 PM (zMLZ6)
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Upon further review, the Bears still suck.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 09:29 PM (6Bc88)
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Wig: "Try checking Dupont Trading in Arizona every so often as they sometimes get old stocks from parade rifle sources." You meant to type DuPage Trading Company
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I will be going replica.
"FWIW, I forgot to mention that both Sarco and Numrich have had the older WWI era replica stocks for 1903s now and again for about $200 or so.
You might also find some replica stocks at CMP's online store.
The WWI era do use different handguards (high hump) if you want to be period perfect."
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I will be going replica.
"FWIW, I forgot to mention that both Sarco and Numrich have had the older WWI era replica stocks for 1903s now and again for about $200 or so.
You might also find some replica stocks at CMP's online store.
The WWI era do use different handguards (high hump) if you want to be period perfect."
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at January 18, 2026 09:29 PM (yJcPp)
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Oh, and cozy cave update?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 18, 2026 09:29 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks whig! The doggos got their first ride in the new truck for a nail trim, so big excitement. All good here, thanks!
Posted by: Weasel
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Heh. Best to start to teach them to drive it. You saw what happened when Bill Murray tried to teach a groundhog to drive his pickup.
Posted by: Weasel
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Heh. Best to start to teach them to drive it. You saw what happened when Bill Murray tried to teach a groundhog to drive his pickup.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:29 PM (E4rtv)
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I have not been to the range, and I haven't even shot off the deck. This shoulder surgery takes forever to get over. DH did buy my a lovely little gift for Christmas and I ordered a new purse for concealment, but so far, it would make no sense for me to shoot unless I'm like that dude in the Olympics from Turkey who just slouches and shoots one-handed. Probably not very safe for me or anyone else.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 09:30 PM (6Bc88)
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Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:29 PM (E4rtv)
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Gertie is juuuuust tall enough to stand on her back feet and look out the window.
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Gertie is juuuuust tall enough to stand on her back feet and look out the window.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:30 PM (zMLZ6)
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sra blaster's father passed away Friday.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Prayers up for all, Blaster.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Prayers up for all, Blaster.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:31 PM (QNH/l)
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Prayers up for all, Blaster.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:31 PM (QNH/l)
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Absolutely. Condolences to the family, blaster
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:31 PM (QNH/l)
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Absolutely. Condolences to the family, blaster
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:32 PM (zMLZ6)
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208 sra blaster's father passed away Friday.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Prayers up for all, Blaster.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:31 PM (QNH/l)
Prayers, certainly.
Imagine my shock when I realized my baby brother is 62 years old. We are of that age, I'm afraid. Many lost as the years go by.
But they are never gone, if we remember.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Prayers up for all, Blaster.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:31 PM (QNH/l)
Prayers, certainly.
Imagine my shock when I realized my baby brother is 62 years old. We are of that age, I'm afraid. Many lost as the years go by.
But they are never gone, if we remember.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 09:33 PM (6Bc88)
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My guess, major nuclear exchange or societal breakdown will result in 80-90 percent casualties within weeks of it happening from fighting, disease, preexisting medical weaknesses (no insulin for example), etc.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:20 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, have you read the “One Second After” trilogy?
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:20 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, have you read the “One Second After” trilogy?
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 09:34 PM (ZbDxc)
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Will lots of dry firing improve my accuracy with pistols?
Posted by: M. Gaga at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (KiBMU)
Yes and no.
It won't improve it beyond a certain point, because you need to actually have some rounds go off and move downrange to test that accuracy.
But it can certainly help establish some muscle memory in safely drawing, stance and grip, and trigger pull.
Which you then take to the range to put into practice.
Posted by: M. Gaga at January 18, 2026 07:43 PM (KiBMU)
Yes and no.
It won't improve it beyond a certain point, because you need to actually have some rounds go off and move downrange to test that accuracy.
But it can certainly help establish some muscle memory in safely drawing, stance and grip, and trigger pull.
Which you then take to the range to put into practice.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:34 PM (QNH/l)
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Wig: "Try checking Dupont Trading in Arizona every so often as they sometimes get old stocks from parade rifle sources." You meant to type DuPage Trading Company
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I will be going replica.
DuPage is correct term as I had a brainfart.
FWIW, there is a genuine cartouched finger groove stock on Ebay for about $200 bucks so far. Think it has a day to go.
I have a 1903 Springfield made in 1916 but the stock on it is later than the rifle. I had a look simply for curiousity's sake who still even stocked the finger groove replicas and whether originals were still around.
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I will be going replica.
DuPage is correct term as I had a brainfart.
FWIW, there is a genuine cartouched finger groove stock on Ebay for about $200 bucks so far. Think it has a day to go.
I have a 1903 Springfield made in 1916 but the stock on it is later than the rifle. I had a look simply for curiousity's sake who still even stocked the finger groove replicas and whether originals were still around.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:34 PM (E4rtv)
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I know this by the usual way--trial and error on a small part--a side magazine cover for an 1896 Krag. It ended up producing a funky appearance similar to Nitre bluing. Swirls of straw, blue, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)
I scrubbed the frame and slide with 4-ought steel wool soaked in acetone, to remove any wax, grease, or silicone.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)
I scrubbed the frame and slide with 4-ought steel wool soaked in acetone, to remove any wax, grease, or silicone.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2026 09:36 PM (8zz6B)
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Weasel, thanks for the proper end to the weekend!
Imma go shoot stuff and report back.
Imma go shoot stuff and report back.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 09:38 PM (ZbDxc)
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Whig, have you read the “One Second After” trilogy?
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unpleasant reading of nuclear war effects way back in the 80's turned me off that genre so I leave dystopias to other people to read if they like.
Alas Babylon is one of the more optimistic takes and that is not pleasant at all.
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unpleasant reading of nuclear war effects way back in the 80's turned me off that genre so I leave dystopias to other people to read if they like.
Alas Babylon is one of the more optimistic takes and that is not pleasant at all.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:38 PM (E4rtv)
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Holy shit!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 18, 2026 09:38 PM (6ZHNK)
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Posted by: JTB at January 18, 2026 07:51 PM (yTvNw)
I pointed Weasel to a video all about that (but not a M-1). Maybe he can post it next week. It was informative.
I pointed Weasel to a video all about that (but not a M-1). Maybe he can post it next week. It was informative.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:38 PM (QNH/l)
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Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 09:34 PM (ZbDxc)
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I really enjoyed the first book and for some reason which I cannot recall now was disappointed in the second, and never picked up the third. Might need to give them another try.
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I really enjoyed the first book and for some reason which I cannot recall now was disappointed in the second, and never picked up the third. Might need to give them another try.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:39 PM (zMLZ6)
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Condolences blaster to you and your family
Posted by: Smell the Glove and at January 18, 2026 09:40 PM (PTsqM)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 18, 2026 09:42 PM (viF8m)
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I scrubbed the frame and slide with 4-ought steel wool soaked in acetone, to remove any wax, grease, or silicone.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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That would do it. Stain aka cold bluing also can take better if you heat the pieces before application. Color will deepen depending on the steel, until about 5-6 applications. Sort of like shellac application to wood with thin application layers followed by polishing in between.
I've had the best results on just plain carbon steel, especially barrels, mixed results on chrome moly steel, and it can be a challenge for highly polished case hardened parts as without scuffing the finish, you can't get the stain to take as well.
Oxpho blue uses some nickel/selenium mixture, forgot what Birchwood Casey uses but Birchwood also has a blackening 'blue' to that some folks like. That can work okay on old WWI era blackish parkerizing on scratches etc.
Used to be a guy on the forums named Tin Can Star or something like that. He did projects using rust bluing that came out gorgeous and had photos that showed what he did step by step.
Rust bluing is the most DIY friendly along with parkerizing. New paints from Durocoat resemble bluing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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That would do it. Stain aka cold bluing also can take better if you heat the pieces before application. Color will deepen depending on the steel, until about 5-6 applications. Sort of like shellac application to wood with thin application layers followed by polishing in between.
I've had the best results on just plain carbon steel, especially barrels, mixed results on chrome moly steel, and it can be a challenge for highly polished case hardened parts as without scuffing the finish, you can't get the stain to take as well.
Oxpho blue uses some nickel/selenium mixture, forgot what Birchwood Casey uses but Birchwood also has a blackening 'blue' to that some folks like. That can work okay on old WWI era blackish parkerizing on scratches etc.
Used to be a guy on the forums named Tin Can Star or something like that. He did projects using rust bluing that came out gorgeous and had photos that showed what he did step by step.
Rust bluing is the most DIY friendly along with parkerizing. New paints from Durocoat resemble bluing.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:44 PM (E4rtv)
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sra blaster's father passed away Friday.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Please accept my condolences, blaster.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at January 18, 2026 07:39 PM (cD7Zt)
Please accept my condolences, blaster.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2026 09:46 PM (8zz6B)
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Will lots of dry firing improve my accuracy with pistols?
Posted by: M. Gaga
For some new revolvers, etc., it can smooth up the action dry firing. Don't do it on most rimfires without something in the chamber to protect teh chamber edges as you can raise a burr doing that affecting being able to load the firearm or worse, break off part of your firing pin.
Posted by: M. Gaga
For some new revolvers, etc., it can smooth up the action dry firing. Don't do it on most rimfires without something in the chamber to protect teh chamber edges as you can raise a burr doing that affecting being able to load the firearm or worse, break off part of your firing pin.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:46 PM (E4rtv)
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I'm not aware of law enforcement solving any crimes with this information.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:01 PM (azNOR)
Very few. It's not zero, but it's a number really close to it.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 18, 2026 08:01 PM (azNOR)
Very few. It's not zero, but it's a number really close to it.
Posted by: GWB at January 18, 2026 09:48 PM (QNH/l)
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Be patient, tcn.
Shoulder surgery is a beast. It can take a year to get back 75% of function and ROM.
It’s been what, four weeks?
Shoulder surgery is a beast. It can take a year to get back 75% of function and ROM.
It’s been what, four weeks?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2026 09:50 PM (IhIKR)
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Welp. I wish everyone here a good night. Signing off.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:51 PM (cIOlQ)
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Whig, have you read the “One Second After” trilogy?
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unpleasant reading of nuclear war effects way back in the 80's turned me off that genre so I leave dystopias to other people to read if they like.
Alas Babylon is one of the more optimistic takes and that is not pleasant at all.
Posted by: whig
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Was the designated radiological monitor for my unit in the 80s. Eyes were opened so to speak. Lead an IRAD back in '09 on emp and solar flare effect on the electrical grid.
I have nightmares about the grid, but not exposing myself to radiation. Odd the things the brain latches onto to get obsessed with.
Whig, have you read the “One Second After” trilogy?
After-effects on EMP. Follows your prediction.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unpleasant reading of nuclear war effects way back in the 80's turned me off that genre so I leave dystopias to other people to read if they like.
Alas Babylon is one of the more optimistic takes and that is not pleasant at all.
Posted by: whig
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Was the designated radiological monitor for my unit in the 80s. Eyes were opened so to speak. Lead an IRAD back in '09 on emp and solar flare effect on the electrical grid.
I have nightmares about the grid, but not exposing myself to radiation. Odd the things the brain latches onto to get obsessed with.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at January 18, 2026 09:52 PM (QVmho)
Posted by: mindful webworker - at long last at January 18, 2026 09:58 PM (FMpsC)
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Almost Doof Time. Nite y'all!
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:58 PM (+OnsA)
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I really enjoyed the first book and for some reason which I cannot recall now was disappointed in the second, and never picked up the third. Might need to give them another try.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:39 PM (zMLZ6)
Yeah, first book was best. Eye opener. 2d and 3d were ok, but more action adventure with a sufficiently bad government take to confirm my worst suspicions.
Posted by: Weasel at January 18, 2026 09:39 PM (zMLZ6)
Yeah, first book was best. Eye opener. 2d and 3d were ok, but more action adventure with a sufficiently bad government take to confirm my worst suspicions.
Posted by: RI Red at January 18, 2026 09:59 PM (fRFTM)
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Shoulder surgery is a beast. It can take a year to get back 75% of function and ROM.
It’s been what, four weeks?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2026 09:50 PM (IhIKR)
Trying to remain patient. This is the second time on the same shoulder. Maddening. I sincerely hope they got this one right. The last one was.... disappointing.
My sister wanted me to come down to Olympia and use the University surgeons. But then, who follows through, since the convalescence takes so long? I did demand a different doc, and he seems to be more up on the latest. I have an Israeli balloon in there now, which is not something I thought I would ever say. LOL.
But I miss shooting. I have considered using the deck railing for balance.... not really. Not particularly safe. I had to settle for DH's amazing NYE fireworks.
It’s been what, four weeks?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2026 09:50 PM (IhIKR)
Trying to remain patient. This is the second time on the same shoulder. Maddening. I sincerely hope they got this one right. The last one was.... disappointing.
My sister wanted me to come down to Olympia and use the University surgeons. But then, who follows through, since the convalescence takes so long? I did demand a different doc, and he seems to be more up on the latest. I have an Israeli balloon in there now, which is not something I thought I would ever say. LOL.
But I miss shooting. I have considered using the deck railing for balance.... not really. Not particularly safe. I had to settle for DH's amazing NYE fireworks.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 10:01 PM (6Bc88)
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230 Are you experiencing stringing or sagging?
More or less.
Posted by: mindful webworker - at long last at January 18, 2026 09:58 PM (FMpsC)
I suggest a padded underwire, FTW.
More or less.
Posted by: mindful webworker - at long last at January 18, 2026 09:58 PM (FMpsC)
I suggest a padded underwire, FTW.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 10:01 PM (6Bc88)
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Whaddaya know, the Bears do still suck!
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 18, 2026 10:03 PM (6Bc88)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLiDt3MpVo
Silly me, didn’t see that the link didn’t post.
Silly me, didn’t see that the link didn’t post.
Posted by: KDKong at January 18, 2026 10:24 PM (Bc40B)
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