SecWar Pete Hegseth Announces Reduction of Mark Kelly's Retirement Pay In Wake of "Seditious" Video Counseling Armed Forces Personnel to Refuse Lawful Orders

I'd've preferred hanging, but I guess this is something.

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on Monday announced administrative action against Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., over his participation in a video that he deemed "reckless and seditious."
Kelly, in November, appeared alongside several other Democratic lawmakers in a video urging American servicemembers to disobey "illegal orders" from President Donald Trump. The video generated outcry from conservatives, many of whom suggested the lawmakers were attempting to incite disloyalty in the military.
"[T]he Department of War is taking administrative action against Captain Mark E. Kelly, USN (Ret)," Hegseth announced. "The department has initiated retirement grade determination proceedings under 10 U.S.C. sec. 1370(f), with reduction in his retired grade resulting in a corresponding reduction in retired pay."

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
@SecWar
2h
Six weeks ago, Senator Mark Kelly -- and five other members of Congress -- released a reckless and seditious video that was clearly intended to undermine good order and military discipline. As a retired Navy Captain who is still receiving a military pension, Captain Kelly knows he is still accountable to military justice. And the Department of War -- and the American people -- expect justice.
Therefore, in response to Senator Mark Kelly's seditious statements -- and his pattern of reckless misconduct -- the Department of War is taking administrative action against Captain Mark E. Kelly, USN (Ret). The department has initiated retirement grade determination proceedings under 10 U.S.C. sec. 1370(f), with reduction in his retired grade resulting in a corresponding reduction in retired pay.
To ensure this action, the Secretary of War has also issued a formal Letter of Censure, which outlines the totality of Captain (for now) Kelly's reckless misconduct. This Censure is a necessary process step, and will be placed in Captain Kelly's official and permanent military personnel file.
Captain Kelly has been provided notice of the basis for this action and has thirty days to submit a response. The retirement grade determination process directed by Secretary Hegseth will be completed within forty five days.
Captain Kelly's status as a sitting United States Senator does not exempt him from accountability, and further violations could result in further action.
These actions are based on Captain Kelly's public statements from June through December 2025 in which he characterized lawful military operations as illegal and counseled members of the Armed Forces to refuse lawful orders. This conduct was seditious in nature and violated Articles 133 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, to which Captain Kelly remains subject as a retired officer receiving pay.

Someone on Twitter pointed out that, despite the left's psyops about Hegseth being unqualified, every action he's ordered has gone off without a hitch.

It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself.

Posted by: Ace at 03:00 PM

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1 Did anyone capture a pic of the balls PDJT hung on the tail assembly of Air Force One?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2026 03:02 PM (cYBz/)

2 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: Dandalo at January 05, 2026 03:02 PM (pGdie)

3 It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself.

Apparently women think he's hawt.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 05, 2026 03:02 PM (Riz8t)

4 Someone on Twitter pointed out that, despite the left's psyops about Hegseth being unqualified, every action he's ordered has gone off without a hitch.

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Yeah, but he doesn't look and sound right while he's doing it.

What's more important? Results or looking good while doing it?

To theater kids, that is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

5 Then: No one is above the law

Now: You can't do that to a Democrat Senator!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (sKqQm)

6 "What's an oath"?

/dumbass Kelly

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (XuXeR)

7
I knew this would get stomped, so, willowed:

To what extent is Mandami constrained by state authority? Can his minions actually do this stuff or are there limitations to home rule for NYC?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (tgvbd)

8 Reduction to what?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (pkeXY)

9 I’ll go get the fainting couch for the ettes.

Posted by: Kratwurst at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (tmARj)

10 A good start?
Dare Kelly to do it again!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2026 03:04 PM (Hkcdp)

11 THAT'S JUST WHAT HITLER DID!

WE ARE LIVING IN 1933, SHEEPLE!

Posted by: Typical Leftist! at January 05, 2026 03:04 PM (xTIDn)

12 Judge Boasberg has been randomly assigned to review the request and has decided to boost Mark Kelly's retirement package for his patriotic overtime.

Posted by: Leupold at January 05, 2026 03:05 PM (eIzlH)

13 Leftists will find a Commissar Judge to change that

Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2026 03:05 PM (Ia/+0)

14 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:05 PM (5bGGs)

15 "Someone on Twitter pointed out that, despite the left's psyops about Hegseth being unqualified, every action he's ordered has gone off without a hitch."

What I saw had to do with having a Secretary who prioritized lethality over men dressing up like women.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 05, 2026 03:05 PM (eStot)

16 "It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself."
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Pretty much true of all government bureaucrats, the President, Congress, and the Courts.

Much more competent in performance when they don't actively hate the citizenry of their own country.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:05 PM (WDjG6)

17 The military performs better when led by someone who loves America and wants to WIN.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (Hkcdp)

18 9 I’ll go get the fainting couch for the ettes.
Posted by: Kratwurst at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (tmARj)

And fetch a mop while you're at it.

Posted by: Basements are a-flooding at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (TbWk/)

19 Kelly is quite wealthy already, and having his annual retirement pension reduced by some amount in the low five figures isn't going to hurt. He could make that up fivefold with one speaking engagement to a big liberal organization.

What's going to hurt is the loss in prestige of being retroactively knocked down to Commander from Captain. Though his liberal friends will probably still call him "Captain."

Posted by: Alex at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (EcUen)

20 Meh pay cuts don't matter to Senators, who can just go out and steal more.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (wBaIH)

21 To theater kids, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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They were not shoved in lockers enough in High School.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

22 To theater kids, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm really getting tired of this "theater kids" thing. Being in plays was one of the things that kept me sane in high school. Well, that and band.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (77rzZ)

23 In military justice, this is seen all the time. A solid performer in the past screws up big time.

At a Mast, they reference the past performance, not the current stupidity. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (u82oZ)

24 I've said it before. Kelly is one of those guys where mouth and ego meet.
Unlike the asswipe 51 so called "intelligence professionals" who kept their statement sufficiently equivocal, Kelly and his cronies made the comments is specific reference to this Administration.
Oopsies!
While the others are accountable to their voters, Captain (Ret) Kelly is answerable to the SecWar. Time to pay the piper.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (2WIwB)

25 What's going to hurt is the loss in prestige of being retroactively knocked down to Commander from Captain. Though his liberal friends will probably still call him "Captain." Posted by: Alex at January 05, 2026 03:06 PM (EcUen)

Oh, don't worry, you can still call yourself by your old rank!

Posted by: Sergeant Major Walz at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (eStot)

26 ? Can his minions actually do this stuff"

You mean move Shad'iqua' and the five kids into the apartment across the hall? Sure.

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (XuXeR)

27 20 Meh pay cuts don't matter to Senators, who can just go out and steal more.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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It hurts his future viability to run for a national ticket now. And damned difficult to overturn without smearing himself all over with what he did.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

28 The more military-minded or -experienced on this Smart Military Blog can weigh in better than me. But I think to a very self-important narcissistic cocksucker like Kelly, this is indeed a big kick to the gonads.

The left is hysterically whining and crying and boo-hooing about it, which supports my thinking.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (iFTx/)

29 Dumbo Ears of Kelly's are puce red today and flapping.

Time to drag out Gabby to protest. Is he still doing that? Poor woman, first to be shot at all, second to be married to this scum bottom feeder.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (WONhk)

30
Since when do actions have consequences?

Posted by: Democrats at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (IifOV)

31 Captain (Ret) Kelly

I first read that as "Captain (Rat) Kelly." Which would also be appropriate.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (77rzZ)

32 22 To theater kids, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm really getting tired of this "theater kids" thing. Being in plays was one of the things that kept me sane in high school. Well, that and band.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (77rzZ)

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The theater kid is just not anyone who participated in theater. It's the kid who made theater his identity and never grew from it. Who apply the logic of theater to everyday life, especially in corporate/government settings.

Who prioritize performance over results.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

33 22 To theater kids, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm really getting tired of this "theater kids" thing. Being in plays was one of the things that kept me sane in high school. Well, that and band.
Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (77rzZ)

Not all theater kids are tards. And appearance over competence is a non-partisan affliction.

Posted by: And the way of corporate America at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (TbWk/)

34 And damned difficult to overturn without smearing himself all over with what he did. Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

How does that work?

Posted by: Barbra Streisand at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (eStot)

35 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Commander. The next lowest officer rank. That is a limit built into the regulations. But a General Court Martial can go further. He will steer clear of that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (u82oZ)

36 the things that kept me sane in high school"

So, what brought you down to this place?

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (XuXeR)

37 What happens if Kelly continues, along with the other former military/intel people in Congress encouraging those to refuse “illegal “ orders?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (Hkcdp)

38 The left is hysterically whining and crying and boo-hooing about it, which supports my thinking.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
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Lot of leftists are going to have a stroke before Trump's four years are up.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:10 PM (WDjG6)

39 28 The left is hysterically whining and crying and boo-hooing about it, which supports my thinking.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (iFTx/)

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I long ago stopped using the left's freakouts as a barometer of anything.

They freaked out about W. And W sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

40 That signal chat scam in the beginning was an attempt to take Hegseth out, and it failed because Trump was behind him.

It's amusing to look at what actually happened - a clueless underling (who was later fired) sent out an invite to the chat to a leftist media figure by mistake. The Leftist listened in and then claimed Hegseth should be fired for not having foreseen that he was going to listen in.

I note with a smile that Hegseth responded by tightly clamping down on anyone in the media having any access at all to anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2026 03:10 PM (uWKK8)

41 So, what brought you down to this place?
Posted by: man

I came for the fish puns, but stayed for the boob talk and Mannix girls.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

42 What happens if Kelly continues, along with the other former military/intel people in Congress encouraging those to refuse “illegal “ orders?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (Hkcdp)

If he does it again, it would mean a Court Martial and probably jail time. For the others, probably nothing.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (2WIwB)

43
Time to drag out Gabby to protest

"Gubs ah bah!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (XeTAE)

44 https://x.com/SaltyGoat17/status/
2007810419835166920

I'm not sure I've seen a better memeification of the Trump doctrine than this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

45 Thanks for the "theater kids" explanation.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

46 We’re going to have a wedding, or a hanging. Either way we’re going to have a good time.”

Posted by: Prince John at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (zbb0S)

47 I came for the fish puns, but stayed for the boob talk and Mannix girls.
Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

*fist bump*

Posted by: Diogenes at January 05, 2026 03:12 PM (2WIwB)

48 Ego, all about the ego.

Mark Kelly's 'Love Me' wall probably equals that of Hugo Chavez.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2026 03:12 PM (bEz7t)

49 Lot of leftists are going to have a stroke before Trump's four years are up.
Posted by: whig
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And those that don't will miss him when he's gone. He's the only thing that gives meaning to their lives.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:12 PM (XvL8K)

50 I long ago stopped using the left's freakouts as a barometer of anything.

They freaked out about W. And W sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

He was literally Hitler you know. A limp-spined center-left gormless bog-standard yacht club Republican.

Posted by: Eventually you run out of literal Hitlers at January 05, 2026 03:12 PM (TbWk/)

51 https://x.com/SaltyGoat17/status/
2007810419835166920

Doesn't work for me.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:12 PM (77rzZ)

52 37 What happens if Kelly continues, along with the other former military/intel people in Congress encouraging those to refuse “illegal “ orders?
Posted by: Lizzy
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It will stunt and kill their political careers. Most of the losers, if not all of the six were people of pallor, not POC. Slotkin barely won in Michigan with the aid of voter fraud. The other four are representatives but it ain't gonna help their careers when the military prestige rises from its performance under Hegseth and Trump.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (WDjG6)

53
Oh Captain my captain.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (IifOV)

54 A court martial?
Good. So Hegseth has just drawn a line, and Kelly now has a choice.
How can Trump draw a line with the others?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (Hkcdp)

55 I came for the fish puns, but stayed for the boob talk and Mannix girls."

So, you're easily hooked?

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (XuXeR)

56 The left is hysterically whining and crying and boo-hooing about it, which supports my thinking.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:08 PM (iFTx/)

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I long ago stopped using the left's freakouts as a barometer of anything.

They freaked out about W. And W sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Different world then. I do think it's a useful barometer. The left will oppose Trump no matter what. But their response to Kelly's "demotion" isn't "haha, look how impotent Trump is, this is barely a wrist-slap." The left is very upset about how this affects Kelley. That's telling, in my book.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

57 Didn't Walz also have to accept a reduction in retirement rank pay?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (KDPiq)

58 I thought I had read that he was convening a board to look at his post retirement conduct and nothing had been decided yet.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (0N4FZ)

59 It's comical how incompetent Kelly has been through all of this. He started in on this "no illegal orders" bit to try to protect Cartel drug couriers, and he had no clue that this was a prelude to taking Maduro and his government down.

Now he looks like nothing but a cartel lackey.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (uWKK8)

60 Looking good?

Temu Idi Amin Darth Lloyd has entered Chat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (bEz7t)

61 56 Different world then. I do think it's a useful barometer. The left will oppose Trump no matter what. But their response to Kelly's "demotion" isn't "haha, look how impotent Trump is, this is barely a wrist-slap." The left is very upset about how this affects Kelley. That's telling, in my book.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

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"Trump did a thing, and I will tear my hair out for it."

I mean...I don't see how to hear it as anything other than just white noise at this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

62 58 I thought I had read that he was convening a board to look at his post retirement conduct and nothing had been decided yet.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (0N4FZ)

Hegseth decided.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (uWKK8)

63 I hope they're looking into the traitor still working in the government leaking classified information .

If they don't find them this could do great damage to Trump, his administration and the country.
unusual_whales
@unusual_whales
Plans for secret U.S. raid to capture Maduro leaked to the Washington Post and New York Times before it happened, but both decided not to publish to protect U.S. troops

Posted by: redridinghood at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (NpAcC)

64 44 https://x.com/SaltyGoat17/status/
2007810419835166920

I'm not sure I've seen a better memeification of the Trump doctrine than this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the

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Ahem.
A URL shortener would help.

Posted by: Person on a phone at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (rJrcs)

65 Good buddy, retired SF Colonel telling me about what's declassified RE the Maduro Raid...
There was plenty of resistance. Delta hit so fast it was completely overwhelmed.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (dzZCL)

66 I dislike the new nomenclature, if only in (mistaken) usage.

Prior to 1947 and the re-organization, all of the official docs and news reports said:

WAR DEPARTMENT

Not “Department of War”
Please make a note of it. Thank You for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (zXS73)

67 How does that work?
Posted by: Barbra Streisand
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Go dig up the Billy Bob Thornton story of meeting Babs at a Hollywood party. Hilarious.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (WDjG6)

68 59 It's comical how incompetent Kelly has been through all of this. He started in on this "no illegal orders" bit to try to protect Cartel drug couriers, and he had no clue that this was a prelude to taking Maduro and his government down.

Now he looks like nothing but a cartel lackey.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (uWKK

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Well, because he probably is.

And, man...this kidnapping of a cartel leader who's even a de facto head of state....I wonder how this could apply to cartel leaders in Mexico...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

69 There was plenty of resistance. Delta hit so fast it was completely overwhelmed.
Posted by: Beto Ochoa
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30 dead Cubans agree.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (WDjG6)

70 And that someone who shares their burden (doing PT with them, for example) EARNS their respect.

It is one of those things that you try to teach some people about being a leader, but often some just do nkt Grok it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:16 PM (zZu0s)

71 gormless bog-standard yacht club Republican."

Hey, grand dad was president of the US GOLF Association... that's country club!

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:16 PM (XuXeR)

72

But Hegseth is white.

Posted by: Rev DR E Buzz at January 05, 2026 03:16 PM (et1vG)

73 ‘ I'd've preferred hanging, but I guess this is something.’

So would I but I think all this slap on the wrist will do is inoculate the bald bastard against future charges of sedition.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 05, 2026 03:16 PM (jbnUc)

74 Different world then. I do think it's a useful barometer. The left will oppose Trump no matter what. But their response to Kelly's "demotion" isn't "haha, look how impotent Trump is, this is barely a wrist-slap." The left is very upset about how this affects Kelley.

That's telling, in my book.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade

They finally realize Trump isn't fucking around.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2026 03:17 PM (c115l)

75 Well, because he probably is.

And, man...this kidnapping of a cartel leader who's even a de facto head of state....I wonder how this could apply to cartel leaders in Mexico...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Gallego, the other senator D-AZ cartel, did the same and now everyone is plastering online about how his dad was an actual cartel member and Gallego changed his name after he went into politics because of it.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:17 PM (WDjG6)

76 from downstairs, continuing HOA discussion:

and they would laugh at you, point to some portion of some contract that's a part of the HOA and continue to harass you. If you continue to push back, they take your home.

I already filed a trespassing complaint against them 10 years ago.

they never bothered me again, even when they had good reason to, lol

Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2026 03:17 PM (dCxaZ)

77 There are two of these mofos and I don't know who does what.

Posted by: NCKate at January 05, 2026 03:17 PM (uQzkA)

78 Is this about us?

Posted by: gormless bog-standard yacht club Republicans at January 05, 2026 03:17 PM (rJrcs)

79 And, man...this kidnapping of a cartel leader who's even a de facto head of state....I wonder how this could apply to cartel leaders in Mexico...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mexico just arrested one such today and is handing him over to the US. Guess he didn't keep up his insurance payments to the Mexican Prezzie.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (WDjG6)

80 The Speech and Debate Clause is why they aren't court-martialing him. So they're going to take an administrative action against him to punish his suborning of mutiny.

Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (qqPPE)

81 79 Mexico just arrested one such today and is handing him over to the US. Guess he didn't keep up his insurance payments to the Mexican Prezzie.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (WDjG6)

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I wonder if aggressive enforcement of the border is eating into cartel profits at this point...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

82 4 To theater kids, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

How the hell are there so many theater kids?

Fathers used to beat their sons if they even thought about such things.

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (UnA8+)

83 80 The Speech and Debate Clause is why they aren't court-martialing him. So they're going to take an administrative action against him to punish his suborning of mutiny.

Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (qqPPE)

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He didn't say it on the floor of the Senate.

The Speech and Debate clause doesn't apply.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

84 69 There was plenty of resistance. Delta hit so fast it was completely overwhelmed.
Posted by: Beto Ochoa
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30 dead Cubans agree.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (WDjG6)

30 that they have acknowledged in public... that is.

Posted by: Inogame at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM (53oGX)

85 Kelly's retirement pay is pocket change compared to what these scumbags grift and outright steal.

I have any idea- everyone who is elected to public office has to submit to a financial audit. What they leave office with must be exactly what they entered with, plus whatever their official salary has been.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM (MZ+PY)

86 Speaking of gormless,

LTC Bearclaw Vindaloomon et al, what have they been doing of late?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM (bEz7t)

87 It's comical how incompetent Kelly has been through all of this. He started in on this "no illegal orders" bit to try to protect Cartel drug couriers, and he had no clue that this was a prelude to taking Maduro and his government down.

Now he looks like nothing but a cartel lackey.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2026 03:14 PM (uWKK

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Well, because he probably is.

And, man...this kidnapping of a cartel leader who's even a de facto head of state....I wonder how this could apply to cartel leaders in Mexico...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (GBKbO)
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As I said earlier, wait until we find out how much cartel money is being funneled to Democraps in the USA. I guarantee it starts with a "b."

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (iFTx/)

88 I think all this slap on the wrist will do is inoculate the bald bastard against future charges of sedition.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Sure, it won't hurt Kelly much directly, and may even benefit him with some increased media exposure, but it'll piss the Left off for a bit, and it may scare other retired officers that aren't as well off into keeping their traitorous mouths shut.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (JCZqz)

89 Well, SOMETHING happened, so I can't say "Noting will happen", but I'm not satisfied because he needs a court martial, not just a monetary penalty.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (zjgNU)

90 Hegseth has done a fantastic job so far.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (viF8m)

91 > They finally realize Trump isn't fucking around.

Speaking of, when do we black bag the illegitimate leader of Brazil? Biden helped install Lula. We can clean up Biden's mess.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (Yp6az)

92 Kelly's retirement pay is pocket change compared to what these scumbags grift and outright steal.
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He'll be losing the retainer money he gets from Venezuela. That ought to be something.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (qbLEp)

93 The Speech and Debate Clause is why they aren't court-martialing him. So they're going to take an administrative action against him to punish his suborning of mutiny.
Posted by: GWB at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (qqPPE

That just covers his role as a Congressional politician. He still subject to conduct as a uniformed military officer.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (KDPiq)

94 I thought I had read that he was convening a board to look at his post retirement conduct and nothing had been decided yet.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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The initial decision goes to a review board. My guess it is likely to stick to Senator Penis Head.

Then he has to choice to ask for a general court martial or shut up and take it. Win Win. Either he smears himself in his shit in a court martial risking more punishment or he admits what he did was wrong by accepting the punishment.

Avoids making Kelly look like a martyr.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:21 PM (WDjG6)

95 Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president

Posted by: redridinghood at January 05, 2026 03:21 PM (NpAcC)

96 Good buddy, retired SF Colonel telling me about what's declassified RE the Maduro Raid...
There was plenty of resistance. Delta hit so fast it was completely overwhelmed.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (dzZCL)

The D boys are among the best Tier 1 breachers on the planet. Their speed is super human.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2026 03:21 PM (snZF9)

97 Mexican cartel bosses drew straws.

The loser got handed over in the hope Trump doesn't add Mexico's President to his collection.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (bEz7t)

98 30 that they have acknowledged in public... that is.
Posted by: Inogame

Fuck those guys! Why's no one talking about the directed bombing of my mausoleum!?!?!?

Posted by: Zombie Hugo Chavez at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (JCZqz)

99 I don't like his cuffs!... I don't like his cuffs! I don't like his cuffs! A man's cuffs should be even with the tip of his 'pee-pee'. Hegseth's are all the way down to his balls!

Posted by: Bearnaise at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (wVcYX)

100 I'm really getting tired of this "theater kids" thing. Being in plays was one of the things that kept me sane in high school. Well, that and band.
Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:07 PM (77rzZ)

Having been in plays, you understand exactly what kind of person we are talking about, no?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (zjgNU)

101 Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood
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He was Obama's choice to replace Biden.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (XvL8K)

102 I believe Kelly was the only retired officer of the group of 6. Special rules for him, and responsibility. The others were not and have different rules of conduct attached to them.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (GZYu7)

103 It also includes a Letter of Censure strongly-worded no doubt.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (RIvkX)

104 He didn't say it on the floor of the Senate.

The Speech and Debate clause doesn't apply.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

It was my understanding that because of his military status it would not protect him under the military code. Is that incorrect?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (KDPiq)

105 98 30 that they have acknowledged in public... that is.
Posted by: Inogame

Fuck those guys! Why's no one talking about the directed bombing of my mausoleum!?!?!?
Posted by: Zombie Hugo Chavez at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (JCZqz)

I thought that didn't really happen?
I don't mind if it did.. but I thought it was a communications center near there that was hit.

Posted by: Inogame at January 05, 2026 03:23 PM (53oGX)

106

Everybody, listen to me
And return me my ship
I'm your captain, I'm your captain
Though I'm feeling mighty sick

Posted by: Kelly's anti heroes at January 05, 2026 03:23 PM (pkeXY)

107 Speaking of, when do we black bag the illegitimate leader of Brazil? Biden helped install Lula. We can clean up Biden's mess.
Posted by: bonhomme

I've seen people on Facebook ask to come get their leaders. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2026 03:23 PM (c115l)

108 30 that they have acknowledged in public... that is.
Posted by: Inogame

Fuck those guys! Why's no one talking about the directed bombing of my mausoleum!?!?!?
Posted by: Zombie Hugo Chavez at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (JCZqz)

Big Jim McBob: You blowed up good.

Billy Sol Hurok: Blowed up real good!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 05, 2026 03:23 PM (wVcYX)

109 But Hegseth is white.

Posted by: Rev DR E Buzz
.....

He might even have a white family. Take his house.

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (UjdFS)

110 107 Speaking of, when do we black bag the illegitimate leader of Brazil? Biden helped install Lula. We can clean up Biden's mess.
Posted by: bonhomme

He's a bad one...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (VE6XX)

111 Having been in plays, you understand exactly what kind of person we are talking about, no?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I don't think I ever knew anyone like that personally. But I assume most of Hollywood is what you're describing.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (77rzZ)

112 Willowed:
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You ain't helping Sections 8 people by putting them in the middle of an affluent neighborhood. You're just hurting non section 8 people.

I'm sure that's the goal of many on the Left.

They want everyone to be equally miserable.
Posted by: Opinion fact

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I think they mostly do stuff because they know they can avoid consequences and it makes everyone one step below them a little poorer. Zero-sum thinking. They feel closer to god by pushing down the middle and lower middle classes that can not avoid those neighborhoods.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (hVG+8)

113 @64 Agreed. Morons that don't use tinyurl or eqiuvalent should get the Maduro treatment.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (ubvI6)

114 104 It was my understanding that because of his military status it would not protect him under the military code. Is that incorrect?

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 05, 2026 03:22 PM (KDPiq)

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If he had said it on the floor, the military rules would probably be subservient to Constitutional protections of him as a Senator.

But, he didn't say it on the floor. He said it in a video away from the floor. It's a moot point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (GBKbO)

115 94 I thought I had read that he was convening a board to look at his post retirement conduct and nothing had been decided yet.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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The initial decision goes to a review board. My guess it is likely to stick to Senator Penis Head.

Then he has to choice to ask for a general court martial or shut up and take it. Win Win. Either he smears himself in his shit in a court martial risking more punishment or he admits what he did was wrong by accepting the punishment.

Avoids making Kelly look like a martyr.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:21 PM (WDjG6)

This is a win. Venezuela is a win, there's win all over the place. Some on the Right get uncomfortable with win, I guess. Maybe nervous making because new.

Posted by: tubal at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (5vxCk)

116 Fathers used to beat their sons if they even thought about such things.
Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (UnA8+)

They also used to beat their sons to assuage their own childhood-rooted feelings of powerlessness from when their fathers beat them to assuage their own childhood-rooted feelings of powerlessness etc. Nothing says you're a strong powerful man like hurting a defenseless 6-year-old boy for no discernible reason.

Posted by: I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (TbWk/)

117 Captain Seditious Grifter has vowed to keep his beak as wet as possible.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (xvV+O)

118 116 Fathers used to beat their sons if they even thought about such things.
Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:18 PM (UnA8+)

They also used to beat their sons to assuage their own childhood-rooted feelings of powerlessness from when their fathers beat them to assuage their own childhood-rooted feelings of powerlessness etc. Nothing says you're a strong powerful man like hurting a defenseless 6-year-old boy for no discernible reason.

Posted by: I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (TbWk/)

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And sometimes, sons just make good sport.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

119 "Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood"

... of a small socialist paradise.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (GUOwU)

120 Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood
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He was Obama's choice to replace Biden.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
......

Jug Ears / Dumbo Ears

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (UjdFS)

121 rickb223

The French guy telling Trump Macron's home address and when he gets home cracked me up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (u82oZ)

122 Hegseth has done a fantastic job so far.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2026 03:20 PM (viF8m)
*****
From the first time he started on F&F I have always been a huge fan.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (NpAcC)

123 Did something happen?

Posted by: The person who doesn't think anything will ever happen at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (rJrcs)

124 95 Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood

I think that is now was a possible ......Obama reportedly favored ole Penis Head.

Too many people wanting to climb the greasy pole to get the Dem nominee for them to consider someone like Kelly now. Kamala is reconsidering 2028, you have Gruesome Gavin, Klobachar especially if she has a brief stint as governor in MN, and probably some other senators like severely heterosexual Corey Booker.

Kelly, like John Glenn in the past, was hoping to ride the hero train as astronaut and Navy officer. That is all tainted now by this action. Becomes a controversy and in most cases, pols don't rise to higher office if they have 'controversies' that can be exploited.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (WDjG6)

125 "Hoy nacera un venezolano llamado Deltafors Donaltrom Vasques"

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (Ow52c)

126 119 "Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood"

... of a small socialist paradise.
Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (GUOwU)

She makes the little joke, I think.

Posted by: tubal at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (5vxCk)

127 Agreed. Morons that don't use tinyurl or eqiuvalent should get the Maduro treatment.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (ubvI6)

Rolled up tight, one end clipped and stuck in someone's mouth, and the other end set on fire?

Posted by: Robusto plan at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (TbWk/)

128 120 Mark Kelly is a possible future president or vice president
Posted by: redridinghood
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He was Obama's choice to replace Biden.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
......

Jug Ears / Dumbo Ears
Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:25 PM (UjdFS

If anyone has shown to have the touch it's $hitmidas

Posted by: Inogame at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (53oGX)

129 Heh. I did like a tweet I saw over the weekend where someone said something like: That the US could do something like this to the leader of a sovereign nation is horrible. That they could do it to MY leader Macron, who lives at (address in Paris) would be horrible. He usually is home with his wife by 9pm.

Fucking lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (zZu0s)

130 In response to her husband's reduction in tank Gabby Gifford's said "Gaarph blark blee pop"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (ScJGb)

131 30 dead Cubans agree.
Posted by: whig

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I am surprise a foreign mercenary palace guard put up any resistance at all. I bet they didn't and were just vaporized out of an abundance of caution.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (hVG+8)

132 Who prioritize performance over results.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
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Literally, every Democrat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (RIvkX)

133 What's more important? Results or looking good while doing it?
Posted by TJM

In Hegseth's case, he's accomplishing both for me

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (oiNtH)

134 124 Too many people wanting to climb the greasy pole to get the Dem nominee for them to consider someone like Kelly now. Kamala is reconsidering 2028, you have Gruesome Gavin, Klobachar especially if she has a brief stint as governor in MN, and probably some other senators like severely heterosexual Corey Booker.

Kelly, like John Glenn in the past, was hoping to ride the hero train as astronaut and Navy officer. That is all tainted now by this action. Becomes a controversy and in most cases, pols don't rise to higher office if they have 'controversies' that can be exploited.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (WDjG6)

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Kamala's been dead set on running again since early November 2024.

Her black support will ensure her the win in SC. IA is a joke, and NH's official primary is after Super Tuesday now.

Hell, Newsom is fading at this point.

Kamala is the Biden (embarrassment of previous presidential elections before 2020) of 2028, and there's no Bernie for her to overcome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (GBKbO)

135 Focusing on the Kelly's money is dumb.

It's the ding on the record and demotion that is going to eat him up inside.

Posted by: connected and litigious at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (cS1cw)

136 Then he has to choice to ask for a general court martial or shut up and take it. Win Win. Either he smears himself in his shit in a court martial risking more punishment or he admits what he did was wrong by accepting the punishment.

Avoids making Kelly look like a martyr.
Posted by: whig

Court Martial is no joke. That's why, typically, most soldiers will accept lesser punishment and plead for mercy from their commander instead of exercising their right to a full court martial.

A quick Google search shows Article 133 maximum punishment is dismissal from service (equivalent to a dishonorable discharge for enlisted personnel), forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for up to one year

134 is a catch-all with multiple sub-charges, but if it's "Disloyal statements": Maximum punishment includes dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and up to three years of confinement.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (JCZqz)

137 132 Who prioritize performance over results.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
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Literally, every Democrat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2026 03:27 PM (RIvkX)

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Results don't matter when the kulaks are undermining every effort.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

138 NaCLy beat me to it. Still funny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (zZu0s)

139 Nothing says you're a strong powerful man like hurting a defenseless 6-year-old boy for no discernible reason.

Pain builds character!

Posted by: Older Brother at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (8uzBS)

140 Well if he was picked by Barky, he was a step below what he thought he was.

Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (Ia/+0)

141 Is there anything in the UCMJ that proscribes Looking Like an Absolute Penis?

If so, I think we have another cause of action against Kelly.

Posted by: ballistic at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (3BwY8)

142 This is a win. Venezuela is a win, there's win all over the place. Some on the Right get uncomfortable with win, I guess. Maybe nervous making because new.
Posted by: tubal
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Life is full of woe and sorrow at times; at other times, you bask in the sun and enjoy the day when it is good. Live in the moment because it too is fleeting.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (WDjG6)

143 Well, because he probably is.

And, man...this kidnapping of a cartel leader who's even a de facto head of state....I wonder how this could apply to cartel leaders in Mexico...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

______________________

Personally, I'm curious how the hierarchy of those 200 Tren de Aragua gang members shipped off to CECOT in El Savador is doing about now. They lost a little gravitas in the prison yard, I'd wager. Currently, it might be like navigating a mine field for those poor guys. Bummer.

Posted by: Orson at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (dIske)

144 Mrs. Santa's unclean sister

They fought hard, those Cuban goons. Wounded at least two of our best. The US soldiers are expected to live, but severely wounded.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (u82oZ)

145 The SecDef was only a major in the national guard!

Shriek!

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (NlEaG)

146 Results don't matter when the kulaks are undermining every effort.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

Hoarders! Wreckers! Monsters! Demons! LITERALLY HITLERS!

Posted by: Seeep them all away! at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (TbWk/)

147 Having been in plays, you understand exactly what kind of person we are talking about, no?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 05,

I was in theatre in school and I have no idea what is meant by this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (Nx5jP)

148 I'm still not on board with "South Carolina is the Only State that Matters".

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (UnA8+)

149 143 Personally, I'm curious how the hierarchy of those 200 Tren de Aragua gang members shipped off to CECOT in El Savador is doing about now. They lost a little gravitas in the prison yard, I'd wager. Currently, it might be like navigating a mine field for those poor guys. Bummer.

Posted by: Orson at January 05, 2026 03:29 PM (dIske)

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How does one display rank changes when one is constantly only in one's underwear and can't get access to a good tattoo artist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

150 Ahem.
A URL shortener would help.
Posted by: Person

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Do twitter links give anyone trouble?
They seem short enough to me that they can't blow out any margins, but maybe because I am on desktop.

I prefer to see the whole URL. Even with spaces I prefer that to blind links.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (hVG+8)

151 Is there anything in the UCMJ that proscribes Looking Like an Absolute Penis?

If so, I think we have another cause of action against Kelly.
Posted by: ballistic

That's why I never joined the service.
-- Jeff Bezos

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

152 Theater Kids, Fen.

Not the same as someone who was just in a play once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:31 PM (zZu0s)

153 148 I'm still not on board with "South Carolina is the Only State that Matters".

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:30 PM (UnA8+)

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The last time someone won SC and lost the Democrat nomination was, I believe, 1988.

And since, SC has just gotten more important as it got pushed to the front of the schedule. It's gotten even worse for Democrats as their primary electorate has become more female and more black.

The Black Woman rules the party now, in no small part because of that SC influence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:31 PM (GBKbO)

154 Court Martial is no joke. That's why, typically, most soldiers will accept lesser punishment and plead for mercy from their commander instead of exercising their right to a full court martial.
Posted by: Military Moron
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True dat.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:31 PM (WDjG6)

155 Is there anything in the UCMJ that proscribes Looking Like an Absolute Penis?

If so, I think we have another cause of action against Kelly.
Posted by: ballistic

Conduct unbecumming?

Posted by: Highly dysfunctional at January 05, 2026 03:31 PM (TbWk/)

156 Focusing on the Kelly's money is dumb.

It's the ding on the record and demotion that is going to eat him up inside.

I'm happy with both, just in case losing the money also eats him up inside.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (Yp6az)

157 They fought hard, those Cuban goons. Wounded at least two of our best. The US soldiers are expected to live, but severely wounded.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

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I guess they were afraid they would have to go home to Cuba.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (hVG+8)

158 >>Heh. I did like a tweet I saw over the weekend where someone said something like: That the US could do something like this to the leader of a sovereign nation is horrible. That they could do it to MY leader Macron, who lives at (address in Paris) would be horrible. He usually is home with his wife by 9pm.

Sounds like a takeoff on a tweet that was posted a while back after Trump started his massive illegal immigrant deportation. Something like, these deportations of illegals are horrible and I hope they don't come for my mother in-law Maria Gonzales who lives at XY ABC Street in Los Angeles and gets home from work everyday at 6 pm.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (viF8m)

159 Kamala is the Biden (embarrassment of previous presidential elections before 2020) of 2028, and there's no Bernie for her to overcome.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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If the dems take the House, the Mamdani wing will be feeling their oats and it'll be an AOC type.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (XvL8K)

160 139 Nothing says you're a strong powerful man like hurting a defenseless 6-year-old boy for no discernible reason.
Posted by: Older Brother

How about marrying the 6-year-old girls?

Posted by: Muhammad, prophet and example for the Western World at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (JCZqz)

161 with the exception of Fox, the legacy media have all refused to use the updated Secretary/Dept of War nomenclature

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (V6W16)

162 159 If the dems take the House, the Mamdani wing will be feeling their oats and it'll be an AOC type.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:32 PM (XvL8K)

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AOC runs behind Newsom in black support. And Kamala runs dozens of points ahead of Newsom in black support...all while she's either #1 or #2 in most polls that include her.

Acting like white socialists in NYC are going to determine the 2028 Democrat nominee is like predicting Elizabeth Warren was going to win the nomination in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

163 I was in theatre in school and I have no idea what is meant by this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Rhetoric for the kind of kids that try to suck up to the teachers, nark on other students, create drama where ever they are in whatever club, and generally make a damn nuisance of themselves in high school by making it all about them and their ambitions to get ahead by any means necessary.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (WDjG6)

164 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:31 PM (zZu0s)

I have no idea what a theatre kid is. I was in three plays in high school . More in college The kids who were in the plays were "non dramatic" types . They were pleasant and funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (Nx5jP)

165 Hegseth maybe racking up excellent military victories but how about all of the drinking and sexual antics this guy has supposedly done!!!

- A drunk and never sexually harassed Maize Hirono, Dumbshit - Hawaii

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (oiNtH)

166 I like the fact that this is being done by an administrative process.

Let the courts chew on that one a bit.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (NlEaG)

167 125 "Hoy nacera un venezolano llamado Deltafors Donaltrom Vasques"
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 05, 2026 03:26 PM (Ow52c)

Quien mas macho?

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (xJGPn)

168 I saw that thread on X this morning. People saying they love what he's doing, but they need him to sound like an Aaron Sorkin character while he's doing it. Gravitas, you know.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (2ocoG)

169 whig

I heard F. Lee Bailey say if you are innocent, the Military Justice system is the best. Because you put experienced people on the jury, and they ask good questions if needed. He was at a Forum at UMBC when I heard that.

If you are guilty, the civilian courts are your best chance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (u82oZ)

170 But Hegseth is white.

Posted by: Rev DR E Buzz
.....

He might even have a white family. Take his house.
Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:24 PM (UjdFS)
*******
He took a DNA test on F&F.
He is Mega Norwegian.
Like a Viking.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (NpAcC)

171 I thought "theater kid" just meant weirdo.

Posted by: NCKate at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (uQzkA)

172 I now know reductions are against God's plan and should never be done for any reason.

Posted by: Soleil Moon Frye at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (7Q0e+)

173 168 I saw that thread on X this morning. People saying they love what he's doing, but they need him to sound like an Aaron Sorkin character while he's doing it. Gravitas, you know.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (2ocoG)

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It's just straight classism. Provincialism for progressive enclaves.

It's unAmerican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

174 @150
The problem is when you read the blog on a phone. Long URLs blow the margins, and spaces make it difficult to click into the link without extra steps.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (ubvI6)

175 Rhetoric for the kind of kids that try to suck up to the teachers, nark on other students, create drama where ever they are in whatever club, and generally make a damn nuisance of themselves in high school by making it all about them and their ambitions to get ahead by any means necessary.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (WDjG6)
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In HS, outsider nerds who desperately want to be in the Cool Kids Club but are not, so they constantly stir up shit and engage in catty behavior to draw attention to themselves, despite the fact that nobody really cares that they exist.

Posted by: ballistic at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM (3BwY8)

176 It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself.
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That is a good definition of what experts mean by "unqualified".

Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (s0JqF)

177 I prefer to see the whole URL. Even with spaces I prefer that to blind links.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister

===

But there's no adventure that way!

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (MqNkB)

178 Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (WDjG6)

Nope; if we had people like this in theatre in high school or college I didn't meet them or was not aware of this. I never heard any of the others kids complain about such behavior either. Maybe if you went to a school specifically focused on the performing arts?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (Nx5jP)

179 AOC runs behind Newsom in black support. And Kamala runs dozens of points ahead of Newsom in black support...all while she's either #1 or #2 in most polls that include her.

Normally I'm 100% for being behind Black men, but I have 0% support.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (JCZqz)

180 They were pleasant and funny.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (Nx5jP)

Then you were quite lucky, Fen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (zZu0s)

181 176 It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself.
_______
That is a good definition of what experts mean by "unqualified".

Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (s0JqF)

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I bet Hegseth has no idea of the latest theories of gender as a tool in military intelligence against inbred populations of alien planets.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

182 FenelonSpoke

FYI, theater babes had a rep of being loose with sexual favors in a button-down society. One reason I was in community theater after high school.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (u82oZ)

183 I hope they don't come for my mother in-law Maria Gonzales who lives at XY ABC Street in Los Angeles and gets home from work everyday at 6 pm.

*grins*

Posted by: Manuel Labor at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (UjdFS)

184 They fought hard, those Cuban goons. Wounded at least two of our best. The US soldiers are expected to live, but severely wounded.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Saw references to some troops being wounded but did not know how severe. May their recovery be fast and blessed. Thanks for informing the blog about it.

The Democrats do not deserve the protection given to them by such men.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (WDjG6)

185 Quien mas macho?
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 03:34 PM (xJGPn)

¿Quien es más macho?

Posted by: Un Nazi de gram�tica de espa�ol at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (TbWk/)

186 > I thought "theater kid" just meant weirdo.

Theater kids are a specific type of weirdo. But yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (Yp6az)

187 Is there anything in the UCMJ that proscribes Looking Like an Absolute Penis?

If so, I think we have another cause of action against Kelly.
Posted by: ballistic
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Resembling a penis is okay, but absolute penis is a no-no.

Posted by: Axeman at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (krQz2)

188 179 AOC runs behind Newsom in black support. And Kamala runs dozens of points ahead of Newsom in black support...all while she's either #1 or #2 in most polls that include her.

Normally I'm 100% for being behind Black men, but I have 0% support.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (JCZqz)

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He usually gets like 1-5%. Thanks to his name recognition. It's people like Shapiro who always get 0%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

189 This is a win. Venezuela is a win, there's win all over the place. Some on the Right get uncomfortable with win, I guess. Maybe nervous making because new.
Posted by: tubal

I'm all about win. I love win. If trump had a cabinet of polished skulls like the predator I would consider that uber win.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (snZF9)

190 FYI, theater babes had a rep of being loose with sexual favors in a button-down society. One reason I was in community theater after high school.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Acting never means you have to be sorry for what you did.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (WDjG6)

191 thought "theater kid" just meant weirdo.

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (Nx5jP)

192 There is a definite vibe to theater Kid. IU had a big music school (or did) and the guys and gals going to it could be much the same.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

193 He didn't say it on the floor of the Senate.

The Speech and Debate clause doesn't apply.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:19 PM

Correct, he and five other traitors made a propaganda video that has zero protections under congressional rules.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 03:38 PM (0N4FZ)

194 He usually gets like 1-5%. Thanks to his name recognition. It's people like Shapiro who always get 0%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mayor Petey blurted out some crap on social media about Venezuela and was promptly ratioed and schooled.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:38 PM (WDjG6)

195 175 Rhetoric for the kind of kids that try to suck up to the teachers, nark on other students, create drama where ever they are in whatever club, and generally make a damn nuisance of themselves in high school by making it all about them and their ambitions to get ahead by any means necessary.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:33 PM (WDjG6)
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In HS, outsider nerds who desperately want to be in the Cool Kids Club but are not, so they constantly stir up shit and engage in catty behavior to draw attention to themselves, despite the fact that nobody really cares that they exist.
Posted by: ballistic at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM

They're the type of kids that will tell you they're going to narc you out and you're going to get a demerit.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 03:38 PM (xJGPn)

196
Show business kids making movies of themselves
You know they don't give a fuck about anybody else
--- Fagen and Becker

Posted by: Axeman at January 05, 2026 03:39 PM (krQz2)

197 Judge Hellerstein is the judge on the Maduro case

He's Jewish you know - Cucker Tarlson , on Jew Watch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 05, 2026 03:39 PM (ScJGb)

198 194 He usually gets like 1-5%. Thanks to his name recognition. It's people like Shapiro who always get 0%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mayor Petey blurted out some crap on social media about Venezuela and was promptly ratioed and schooled.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:38 PM (WDjG6)

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Remember those Hispanic brothers who got unimportant cabinet posts in Obama's administration with promises of bright futures in the Democrat Party?

I can't even remember their fucking names.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

199
¿Quien es más macho?
Posted by: Un Nazi de gram�tica de espa�ol at January 05, 2026 03:37 PM (TbWk/)

Lol

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (xJGPn)

200 Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:36 PM (u82oZ)

Really? I must have hung with the bookish, non sexually promiscuous introverted theatre types.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (Nx5jP)

201 177 I prefer to see the whole URL. Even with spaces I prefer that to blind links.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister
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But there's no adventure that way!
Posted by: 2009Refugee

Exactly! https://tinyurl.com/3bvs8wtr

Life is like a box of chocolates, after all...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (JCZqz)

202 Nope; if we had people like this in theatre in high school or college I didn't meet them or was not aware of this. I never heard any of the others kids complain about such behavior either. Maybe if you went to a school specifically focused on the performing arts?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Things have changed Fenelon. As a prof, I would see such (broadly speaking) in my classes and student clubs and often they were a royal pita.

Drama queens is another word for the type.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (WDjG6)

203
Seen on X:

Tucker Carlson believes it’s a “distinct possibility” that the U.S. captured Maduro to *checks notes* “bring gay marriage to Venezuela.”

Yes, he’s serious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (XeTAE)

204 201 Exactly! https://tinyurl.com/3bvs8wtr

Life is like a box of chocolates, after all...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (JCZqz)

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Mad Max Fury Road gif:

"That's bait."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

205 I thought "theater kid" just meant weirdo.

It's more like a pageant kid, but high school aged and gay if male.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (2ocoG)

206 Remember those Hispanic brothers who got unimportant cabinet posts in Obama's administration with promises of bright futures in the Democrat Party?

I can't even remember their fucking names.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

From San Antonio IIRC. One was a former mayor and congress critter, forget what the other one did.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (WDjG6)

207 LOL Javier Milei just rocks:

In a brief post on the X social network, Milei reacted to news of the United States intervention in Venezuela, declaring: “Freedom moves forward. Long live freedom, damn it!”

Posted by: Orson at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (dIske)

208 Tucker is a major league Theater Kid these days, Fen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (zZu0s)

209 So what grade was Dick Head reduced to?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (/lPRQ)

210 FenelonSpoke

You must have been the good, head screwed on right, one that all others looked up too. And here i thought you were a confirmed Liberal back then...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (u82oZ)

211 Mayor Petey blurted out some crap on social media about Venezuela and was promptly ratioed and schooled.

Pete was one of the Dems who had social media posts from 2019 about how Trump was a weakling who was letting Maduro off the hook.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (2ocoG)

212 Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:40 PM (

Ok. I believe you. I went to school practically in the Middle Ages.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (Nx5jP)

213 In HS, outsider nerds who desperately want to be in the Cool Kids Club but are not, so they constantly stir up shit and engage in catty behavior to draw attention to themselves, despite the fact that nobody really cares that they exist.
Posted by: ballistic at January 05, 2026 03:35 PM

They're the type of kids that will tell you they're going to narc you out and you're going to get a demerit.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Pretty much how I define them whether they were in theater or not.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (WDjG6)

214 206 Remember those Hispanic brothers who got unimportant cabinet posts in Obama's administration with promises of bright futures in the Democrat Party?

I can't even remember their fucking names.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

From San Antonio IIRC. One was a former mayor and congress critter, forget what the other one did.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:41 PM (WDjG6)

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Buttigieg has reminded me of them since Biden nominated him to the Transportation post.

He's just more insistent on injecting himself into the news feed, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

215 Acting like white socialists in NYC are going to determine the 2028 Democrat nominee is like predicting Elizabeth Warren was going to win the nomination in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I'm not basing it on that at all. I'm saying if they take the House, it will be seen by them as an endorsement of continuing to go full commie, and Harris won't be accepted as an adequate front for that. Not enough of a firebrand.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:43 PM (XvL8K)

216 In response to her husband's reduction in tank Gabby Gifford's said "Gaarph blark blee pop"
Posted by: Smell the Glove
.......

which translates to: "No sex for Dickhead".

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:43 PM (v0R5T)

217 Castro brothers as I recall. One is still a congress critter

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 05, 2026 03:43 PM (ScJGb)

218 215 I'm not basing it on that at all. I'm saying if they take the House, it will be seen by them as an endorsement of continuing to go full commie, and Harris won't be accepted as an adequate front for that. Not enough of a firebrand.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:43 PM (XvL8K)

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They already hate her.

But the black women love her. Like, a lot. She's their girl.

Kamala is not going to win SC by 50 points and then start losing primaries after that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

219
I can't even remember their fucking names.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Julian Castro was the mayor. Castro was mentioned as a possible running mate for Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign. He is the twin brother of Congressman Joaquin Castro.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:44 PM (WDjG6)

220 WAR DEPARTMENT

Not “Department of War”
Please make a note of it. Thank You for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 05, 2026 03:15 PM (zXS73)

——

The Judean People’s Front concurs.

Posted by: Cray Cray at January 05, 2026 03:44 PM (zbb0S)

221 I was in theatre in school and I have no idea what is meant by this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Rhetoric for the kind of kids that try to suck up to the teachers, nark on other students, create drama where ever they are in whatever club, and generally make a damn nuisance of themselves in high school by makin
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I was in a handful of plays/musicals in junior high and high school, but being a "jock" prevented me from deteriorating into a theater kid. Theater kids also include effeminate and/or weaker guys who audition and win parts for "rugged" lead roles--because there aren't a lot of rugged guys who hang around high school departments. Theater kids also include gals who go from "not really noticed" in the hallway to all of the sudden wearing full womanly makeup when auditioning for a part--and guys like me are left wondering "Where did that come from?". And theater kids over-react to *everything*.

Posted by: Crusader at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (TN0g+)

222 Get a load of the miscreant Vance intruder.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (rJ48h)

223
Joaquin and Julian Castro

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (XeTAE)

224 Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:42 PM (u82oZ)

I was a liberal for a long time. I've been an introvert who can function as an extrovert for much longer. I was mostly too innocent to know boys were trying to pick me up until my sister or her older friends would tell me

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (Nx5jP)

225 Mark Kelly sounds like a fag and his shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

226 drama queen = my ox has an owie.

Posted by: old chick at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (F3Dlr)

227 While hanging is the just outcome, the announcement is a beautiful thing to read.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (PtAHv)

228 So what grade was Dick Head reduced to?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
......

Flaccid 1

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (v0R5T)

229 The problem is when you read the blog on a phone. Long URLs blow the margins, and spaces make it difficult to click into the link without extra steps.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
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Android with Chrome.
I used to wonde WTF is 'blowing margins'?

Latest Chrome update - all AoS pages blow the margins.
My old chrome tablet works just fine.
Even when we get the alleged blown margins.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (/lPRQ)

230 He's just more insistent on injecting himself "

Hey, we want the green dildos!

/WNBA

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (XuXeR)

231 The demotion of Kelly is kind of weak sauce, but it's something that can be done without hauling a sitting Senator in for a court-martial hearing, so there is that.

The disciplinary record would also make it easier to go harder if there is a next time.

Posted by: can of spam at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (14gFN)

232 From San Antonio IIRC. One was a former mayor and congress critter, forget what the other one did.

Joaquin and somebody...Julio? maybe

their mom was a charter officer of LULAC or something

Posted by: DanMan at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (8uzBS)

233 He's just more insistent on injecting himself into the news feed, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He still wants to be relevant in national politics I guess. Maybe he can be a rear admiral in the US Public Health Service like Levine.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (WDjG6)

234 Hmm. Pete Hegseth or Lloyd Austin.

I guess fruit salad really isn't at all what it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (gLikB)

235 I had a HS girlfriend who was in the Drama Club, etc. Super-conservative, very Catholic, introverted. A couple years ago (more than 29) my mother sent me a link to a letter to the editor that the gf wrote. Complete TDS derangement over Russia collusion.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (vV6n9)

236 It's almost as if the military performs better when it's led by someone who knows what he's doing and also does not hate the military itself.

----------------

Lt. Col. Bearclaw hardest hit ...

/Hang that treasonous asshat in along with Milley & Kelly while you're at it

Posted by: ShainS -- Struggling With A Learing Disability at January 05, 2026 03:47 PM (Tm9id)

237 FenelonSpoke

I believe you. You are good people.

"I've been an introvert who can function as an extrovert for much longer. "
I'm going to steal that. Perfect for me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:47 PM (u82oZ)

238 232 From San Antonio IIRC. One was a former mayor and congress critter, forget what the other one did.

Joaquin and somebody...Julio? maybe

their mom was a charter officer of LULAC or something

Posted by: DanMan at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (8uzBS)

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My underlying point is that both were set up to be the future of the party. They obviously had institutional support at the highest levels.

But it never actually led to anything because there's only so much these institutions can do in propping up uninteresting, accomplishment-less failures from cabinet posts to the presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

239 I meant more than 29 years since she was a girlfriend. Sentences are hard.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 05, 2026 03:47 PM (vV6n9)

240 222 Get a load of the miscreant Vance intruder.
Posted by: mr tmz
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Has the fatal far gaze of a constipated person. Life has pushed in his shit.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:47 PM (WDjG6)

241 233 He's just more insistent on injecting himself into the news feed, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He still wants to be relevant in national politics I guess. Maybe he can be a rear admiral in the US Public Health Service like Levine.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (WDjG6)

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He's gonna run for president, for sure, again.

Maybe this time he can win the Iowa caucuses again.

Remember when he did that and it didn't fucking matter because Biden then won SC by 30?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

242 It didn't occur to Mr, Kelly that making such pronouncements might get him into trouble in the military?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:48 PM (Nx5jP)

243 2nd Class Penis Head

Posted by: Really? at January 05, 2026 03:48 PM (cCSm+)

244 They already hate her.

But the black women love her. Like, a lot. She's their girl.

Kamala is not going to win SC by 50 points and then start losing primaries after that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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That the black women love her is why Kamala is a serious threat to Democrats; she can win a lot of their core voting blocs, but does not have a prayer in the general election.

They have to pay her off. No alternative.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:49 PM (PtAHv)

245 Julio - Julian...same thing

their mom did LaRaza not LULAC

I think they changed the name to 'TotoRacist' to tone it down a bit

Posted by: DanMan at January 05, 2026 03:49 PM (8uzBS)

246 ..Julio? maybe"

Down at the school yard?

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:49 PM (XuXeR)

247 I think the theater kids stereotype originated with the "Let's put on a play!" attitude of people who know nothing but think they can fake it.

I think it started during the gulf war 2? And that was the reference given, which goes back to an old TV/movie trope of kids just playing adult.

That is the origins (as far as I recall) but not necessarily how people use it today.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (hVG+8)

248 But it never actually led to anything because there's only so much these institutions can do in propping up uninteresting, accomplishment-less failures from cabinet posts to the presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is the problem for the Democrats that have been using "First!!!" as a candidate qualifier rather than actual demonstrated competence.

You get people promoted beyond their competence and the whole thing becomes performative art rather than governance.

The old machine Democrats did not make that mistake. They got rid of the incompetents in office because it was bad for business.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (WDjG6)

249 It didn't occur to Mr, Kelly that making such pronouncements might get him into trouble in the military?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:48 PM (Nx5jP)
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He thinks it is a temporary problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (PtAHv)

250 FenelonSpoke

Senator, Astronaut, fighter pilot, Captain Kelly, USN (Ret) has a very very high opinion of himself.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (u82oZ)

251 Julian and Joaquin. Nice Irish lads

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (ScJGb)

252 Two theater kids from my h.s. wound up on SNL.

One is a very famous actor.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (RIvkX)

253 I am still waiting for someone to throw a wrench into this Maduro saga

Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (Ia/+0)

254 occur to Mr, Kelly"

I'm important...

Say what?

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (XuXeR)

255 "Trump Gives Greenlight: Netanyahu to engage the IRGC" Headline I'm seeing from a seemingly reliable podcast. We'll see.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (vV6n9)

256 "Lloyd Austin AsshatBot ... an anal gland barely alive."

Posted by: ShainS -- Struggling With A Learing Disability at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (DLkhG)

257 244 That the black women love her is why Kamala is a serious threat to Democrats; she can win a lot of their core voting blocs, but does not have a prayer in the general election.

They have to pay her off. No alternative.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:49 PM (PtAHv)

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Her first interview after announcing her run in 2019 is where she said she supported tax payer funded sex change operations for illegal immigrants in US prisons.

She is going to spew so much "black girl magic" nonsense once she jumps in, it's going to be hilarious. It's going to be her revenge tour where she gets to go full Bulworth. And it's going to work great in the Democrat primary.

Because all that will really matter will be her name recognition.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

258 Who the "theater kids" are.

My wife works in an entertainment industry. (No, not that kind, get your minds out of the gutter.)

Almost all of them are about public virtue signaling and shunning anyone who steps out of an extreme left morality.

To the point that many threatened even the quiet (less far left) liberals (or conservatives or neutrals) that "WE SEE WHO AREN'T TALKING. SILENCE IS VIOLENCE AND WE'LL REMEMBER YOU!"

THAT is what we are talking about for "theater kids", because they still don't live in reality but love to act as though they control it and can force their delusions to be real.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (zjgNU)

259 Senator, Astronaut, fighter pilot, Captain Kelly, USN (Ret) has a very very high opinion of himself.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (u82oZ)

Hi Salty, are you looking forward to a great year?

Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (dCxaZ)

260 I think it started during the gulf war 2? And that was the reference given, which goes back to an old TV/movie trope of kids just playing adult.

That is the origins (as far as I recall) but not necessarily how people use it today.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's

Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland created the trope. Saving this or that by putting on a musical play!!! TJM probably knows the movies.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (WDjG6)

261 They already hate her.

But the black women love her. Like, a lot. She's their girl.

Kamala is not going to win SC by 50 points and then start losing primaries after that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Why is that support not transferable to AOC? Or Crockett? Or whoever the biggest female POC rabble rouser turns out to be?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (XvL8K)

262 Private parts

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

263 Joaquin and Julian Castro

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (XeTAE)

Dey commies.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)

264 Hmm. Pete Hegseth or Lloyd Austin.

I guess fruit salad really isn't at all what it's cracked up to be.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 05, 2026 03:46 PM (gLikB)
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Can you even imagine Hegseth disappearing from his job for two weeks with no notice? SMH.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (PtAHv)

265 248
The old machine Democrats did not make that mistake. They got rid of the incompetents in office because it was bad for business.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (WDjG6)

=======

Well...Chicago's machine has degraded. Johnson can't do shit as mayor.

Machines just degrade over time.

First generation are whip smart, ruthless, and understand power. Second generation are bred on those lessons.

Third generation tend to be brown nosers, and it just gets worse after that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

266
Latest Chrome update - all AoS pages blow the margins.
My old chrome tablet works just fine.
Even when we get the alleged blown margins.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 05, 2026 03:45 PM (/lPRQ)

*lights cigarette*

Posted by: The Margins at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (y9nCu)

267 201 Exactly! https://tinyurl.com/3bvs8wtr

Life is like a box of chocolates, after all...

Posted by: Admiral Ack

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I may never recover from that link.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (hVG+8)

268 The Judean People’s Front concurs.

Posted by: Cray Cray at January 05, 2026 03:44 PM

Not so fast.....

The Popular People's Front of Judea.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (0N4FZ)

269 "That the black women love her is why Kamala is a serious threat to Democrats; she can win a lot of their core voting blocs, but does not have a prayer in the general election.

They have to pay her off. No alternative.

Posted by: Huck Follywood"

You would think if Tim Walz could be forced out, Kamala could be too. She is even more retarded and incompetent.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (GUOwU)

270 wife works in an entertainment industry. (No, not that kind, get your minds out of the gutter.)"

She's in the Professional Bowling Association?

/

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (XuXeR)

271 261 Why is that support not transferable to AOC? Or Crockett? Or whoever the biggest female POC rabble rouser turns out to be?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (XvL8K)

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If Kamala doesn't run, it'll have to transfer somewhere.

But she is going to run. It doesn't need to transfer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

272 She is going to spew so much "black girl magic" nonsense once she jumps in, it's going to be hilarious. It's going to be her revenge tour where she gets to go full Bulworth. And it's going to work great in the Democrat primary.

Because all that will really matter will be her name recognition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

Best part:

She ain't black.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

273 {{{kallisto}}}

This year has to be better than 2025. Sorta recovered. Sorta. Christmas was tough.

Looking forward to more rejections from gold-diggers, which is better than last year.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (u82oZ)

274 272 Best part:

She ain't black.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

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I thought she was like one-quarter black...who owned slaves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

275 Heh. It is nice to be able to laugh at the dems for being silly. Kamala is not even black, and yet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (zZu0s)

276 She ain't black."

Say what?

/Talcum X

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (XuXeR)

277 Who prioritize performance over results.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen

Which is ironic, given the amount of things people have to do right with absolutely precise timing to pull off a theatre production.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (a+4eV)

278 If Kamala doesn't run, it'll have to transfer somewhere.

But she is going to run. It doesn't need to transfer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
___________

And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (XvL8K)

279 That the black women love her is why Kamala is a serious threat to Democrats; she can win a lot of their core voting blocs, but does not have a prayer in the general election.

They have to pay her off. No alternative.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Problem for the Dems is that they have made campaign so lucrative by grifting from those funds that even the flops keep on showing up like Beto. Easier than insider trading. Basically politics has become The Producers plot.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (WDjG6)

280 Kamala will run because she needs money. When she has enough, she will stop. But not before she destroys Gavin because she knows all the right questions to ask.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (RIvkX)

281 It is also hilarious to watch some blacks twist themselves into the 'One drop of Black Blood' knots when trying to claim this or that person.

Guys, quit being reverse Nazis.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (zZu0s)

282 Canraptor ☄️
@canraptor_
The secretary of state, emperor of Venezuela, king of england, governor of Minnesota and the commander of Artemis 3 all walk into a bar.

The bartender says: “What will it be today Mr. Rubio?”

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (2ocoG)

283 It's a shame that there seem to be no repercussions for the women who also were in the gang of six or Gang of Four ( Slotkin, etc) or whatever her name is

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (afKoR)

284 Best part:

She ain't black.
Posted by: Sponge
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She turns off a lot of black males as well.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (WDjG6)

285 Or whatever "their" name is

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 03:56 PM (rZCVI)

286 Critical Drinker thinks Marvel might just have learned a lesson, based on the trailer of Avengers Doomsday. Critically, it features positive white men characters, men acting as good fathers, and a minimum of girlbosses and reflexive, mandated diversity. Will it be enough? I sure hope not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFr8Ah75wE

Posted by: Archimedes at January 05, 2026 03:56 PM (Riz8t)

287 >>>>>>>242 It didn't occur to Mr, Kelly that making such pronouncements might get him into trouble in the military?
*********
The dude is a Kings Point grad, a Navy pilot, and an astronaut. His ego knows no bounds.

Posted by: Cosda at January 05, 2026 03:56 PM (dG2QW)

288 280 Kamala will run because she needs money. When she has enough, she will stop. But not before she destroys Gavin because she knows all the right questions to ask.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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What a shame. He seemed nice.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:56 PM (WDjG6)

289
I thought she was like one-quarter black...who owned slaves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

Thought she was Jamaican, Irish and India Indian.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

290 If Kamala doesn't run, it'll have to transfer somewhere.

But she is going to run. It doesn't need to transfer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
___________

And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
.....

The debates will be mind numbing.

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

291 278
And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (XvL8K)

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AOC doesn't currently have the black support or the name recognition.

She won't get anything from Kamala unless she drops out, and then it'll most likely transfer to Crockett who would probably run after her embarrassing loss in TX (Beto did it and actually raised some decent money).

Simply put, whom black voters trust has determined the direction of the Democrat Party since Obama. Biden, as Obama's VP, they trusted. Kamala is now the person they trust.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

292 Easy Shortcut :

Theater Kid = Acts like Dylan Mulvaney.

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (UnA8+)

293
Senator, Astronaut, fighter pilot, Captain Kelly, USN (Ret) has a very very high opinion of himself.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:50 PM (u82oZ)

I mean the astronaut bit lost all meaning when even Gayle King and Katy Perry are astronauts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (xJGPn)

294
This year has to be better than 2025. Sorta recovered. Sorta. Christmas was tough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (u82oZ)
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I'm with you on this one. Hoping for a much better year for you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (PtAHv)

295 Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (dCxaZ)

I wasn't asked but I'm looking forward to this year being better than last year.
The Big Beautiful Bill (the best bill the nation has ever seen, it's glorious, believe me, Democrats hate it) "reverses the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act rule requiring businesses to capitalize and amortize R&D costs over several years". Section 174A.
That should allow employers to start hiring in tech again.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (gKWVE)

296 It’s so crazy how we have a never ending campaign for President. Election is close to 3 years away and we’re already talking about who will or won’t run and how they’ll do in this or that primary. The media feeds on this too constantly talking about potential candidates.

Congrats that with Canada. Nobody knew who Carney was one day and then the next day he was PM.

It’s kinda funny.

Posted by: Really? at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (cCSm+)

297 And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:54 PM (XvL8K)

___________________________

If I went up against AOC in a presidential debate I'd show up with a box of rocks, and first rebuttal I'd say "I'm going to let my box of rocks answer this one."

Posted by: Orson at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (dIske)

298 281 It is also hilarious to watch some blacks twist themselves into the 'One drop of Black Blood' knots when trying to claim this or that person.

Guys, quit being reverse Nazis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (zZu0s)

Hey, I've been begging for people to accept my 50% WHITE blood.

Nobody will.

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (UnA8+)

299 And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Possible pivot to Senate or NY governor race. Lot of people in NY want someone other than Holchul, just not a republican apparently.

Setups up a 2032 run. But I can also see AOC on the ticket as VP for someone like Newsom if he got it.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (WDjG6)

300 You get people promoted beyond their competence and the whole thing becomes performative art rather than governance.

----------

OUT: The Peter Principle.
IN: The Dickhead Dynamic.

Posted by: ShainS -- Struggling With A Learing Disability at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (aE8Bb)

301 What a shame. He seemed nice.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 03:56 PM (WDjG6)
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I believe sir, you made a mess; your sarcasm has dripped all over the post!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (PtAHv)

302 The black vote and who they "trust" is odd.

Why did they trust old white Biden over Kamala?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (NlEaG)

303 The Democrat Power Structure is really good at taking people out they've decided can't win. The media is always ready to help out. Look at Walz, I doubt that was his decision.

Same with Biden, once it was clear he would lose, they can even push a sitting President out. Media was absolutely brutal and suddenly cared about his mental fitness.

I don't think the Dem Establishment lets Kamala run, they'll pay her off to go away. She ran a terrible campaign and is just an all around awful politician.

Posted by: Leupold at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (eIzlH)

304 296 296 It’s so crazy how we have a never ending campaign for President. Election is close to 3 years away and we’re already talking about who will or won’t run and how they’ll do in this or that primary. The media feeds on this too constantly talking about potential candidates.

Posted by: Really? at January 05, 2026 03:58 PM (cCSm+)

As Rush always said : Politics is Hollywood for Ugly People.

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (UnA8+)

305 >>>And if AOC runs as well? How do you see that playing out?

the debates will make Biden look eloquent

Posted by: brak at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (jGJov)

306 CaliGirl

Maybe, but Kelly was the real deal, He orbited earch.

Gayle King and Katy Perry and the others were in a 62 mile high ShakeWeight.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (u82oZ)

307 Rhetoric for the kind of kids that try to suck up to the teachers, nark on other students, create drama where ever they are in whatever club, and generally make a damn nuisance of themselves in high school by making it all about them and their ambitions to get ahead by any means necessary.
Posted by: whig

See... If I were looking at Generic High School, I'd have said those were the student council archetypes.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (a+4eV)

308 Why is that support not transferable to AOC? Or Crockett? Or whoever the biggest female POC rabble rouser turns out to be?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 05, 2026 03:52 PM (XvL8K)

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If Kamala doesn't run, it'll have to transfer somewhere.

But she is going to run. It doesn't need to transfer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:53 PM

Oh harris is going to run, she will flame out early in the primary just like she did in 2020 but she will grift her way into the primary. I read the other day she is currently leading the pack and now that walz is out she may even get some votes this time around but she is going to lose.

As far as crockett goes she is done. Her house seat is gone and she is pulling a hail mary run for a senate seat that she has no hope of winning even the primary.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (0N4FZ)

309 Kamala has one 100% Indian parent and one mixed black/white parent.

It is comical the FNM calls her "black".

You could call her Indian. Or you could call her multiracial but calling her black because she's 25% or so...? Odd.

Well because they wanted to trick black people into voting for her but...if they had any integrity...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

310 This year has to be better than 2025. Sorta recovered. Sorta. Christmas was tough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog
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May 2026 shine for you.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (WDjG6)

311 Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (UnA8+)

I went to school in BC- before cross dressing. There might have been a gay kid but he didn't make it known and there was no question about it him thinking he was the wrong body.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (rZCVI)

312 I think black women will support code-switching Jasmine Ratchet.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (rJ48h)

313 She is going to spew so much "black girl magic" nonsense once she jumps in, it's going to be hilarious. It's going to be her revenge tour where she gets to go full Bulworth. And it's going to work great in the Democrat primary.

Because all that will really matter will be her name recognition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

Best part:

She ain't black.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
______

I think we should all be thankful to the hairy THOTs of the WNBA for undermining the "black girl magic" narrative by being insufferable farm animals who suck at their sport.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

314 May 2026 shine for you.
Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (WDjG6)

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (rZCVI)

315 prayers up for NaCly Dog who deserved better. Best of luck for '26.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (gKWVE)

316 Well they cant do worse (,crosses finger) gettting the band back to gether might work but it has to clear a billion, just to break
Even

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (bXbFr)

317 Israeli spokesman Shosh Bedrosian has stated that Maduro was laundering funds for Hamas and Iran.

Unfortunately this was released so far only in Spanish. I have yet to find an English version.

Posted by: Kindltot - Ea-Nasir, Say His Name at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (rbvCR)

318 Here is the million dollar q. Who got captain numbnutz to burn his reputation on the failed dont follow illegal orders gambit?

These clowns dont come up with this performative shit on their own.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (i0Hi3)

319
Maybe, but Kelly was the real deal, He orbited earch.

Gayle King and Katy Perry and the others were in a 62 mile high ShakeWeight.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (u82oZ)

I was joking.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (xJGPn)

320 302 The black vote and who they "trust" is odd.

Why did they trust old white Biden over Kamala?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (NlEaG)

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Because he was Obama adjacent.

Kamala was Indian at the time, too.

Also, Deval Patrick's campaign lasted for 2 months.

Name recognition and being Obama's VP make Biden (who had to drop out of a previous primary because of plagiarism) pretty much inevitable if the establishment was dead set on "not Bernie". Bernie only became a thing because he was put up as sacrificial lamb in 2016. Now, there is no Bernie. There is only Kamala.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

321 "It’s so crazy how we have a never ending campaign for President. Election is close to 3 years away and we’re already talking about who will or won’t run and how they’ll do in this or that primary. The media feeds on this too constantly talking about potential candidates.
Posted by: Really?

Especially considering how there will be no more elections now that democracy has been destroyed.

Posted by: Ripley at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (GUOwU)

322 Maybe, but Kelly was the real deal, He orbited earch.
.....

I think they may have had an oxygen leak.

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2026 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

323 311 I went to school in BC- before cross dressing. There might have been a gay kid but he didn't make it known and there was no question about it him thinking he was the wrong body.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2026 04:01 PM (rZCVI)

It's not so much about the women's clothing as it is about the mincing style of speech and the stereotypical "flamer" mannerisms with the hands and such.

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM (UnA8+)

324 See... If I were looking at Generic High School, I'd have said those were the student council archetypes.

Posted by: FeatherBlade
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Those are the kids that failed at getting attention in theater. Outright smarmy gits they are. They are so ruthless because the stakes in student government are so small. Tracy Flick is a real stereotype in the movie, "Election". Only time I felt sorry for Matthew Broderick was watching that movie.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM (WDjG6)

325 300+ comments in, and not one appearance of "Hegsex".

Sad!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM (ULPxl)

326 308 Oh harris is going to run, she will flame out early in the primary just like she did in 2020 but she will grift her way into the primary. I read the other day she is currently leading the pack and now that walz is out she may even get some votes this time around but she is going to lose.

As far as crockett goes she is done. Her house seat is gone and she is pulling a hail mary run for a senate seat that she has no hope of winning even the primary.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (0N4FZ)

=======

Remember, Biden was still a complete tard whenever he opened his mouth in 2020, but he just coasted. Because of his name recognition.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

327 Critical Drinker thinks Marvel might just have learned a lesson, based on the trailer of Avengers Doomsday. Critically, it features positive white men characters, men acting as good fathers, and a minimum of girlbosses and reflexive, mandated diversity. Will it be enough? I sure hope not.
Posted by: Archimedes

They've done this heel-turn before. They're going to bring them back to humiliate them once again. Not a dime.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM (mlg/3)

328 309 It is comical the FNM calls her "black".

You could call her Indian. Or you could call her multiracial but calling her black because she's 25% or so...? Odd.

Well because they wanted to trick black people into voting for her but...if they had any integrity...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2026 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

To Groypers and KiwiFarms, if you're even 1% black, that's good enough to make you a "Low IQ Gorilla [N-Word]".

Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 04:04 PM (UnA8+)

329 Costumed heros are for young boys. I assume the Lincoln Project are big Marvel fans

Posted by: gKWVE at January 05, 2026 04:04 PM (gKWVE)

330 Nood. Maduro.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 05, 2026 04:05 PM (ExV1e)

331 Nood

Posted by: Open Channel D at January 05, 2026 04:05 PM (gYnrv)

332 318 Here is the million dollar q. Who got captain numbnutz to burn his reputation on the failed dont follow illegal orders gambit?

These clowns dont come up with this performative shit on their own.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
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It was done to tee up a future impeachment of Trump. The Dems are afraid of Trump taking down the cartels as they get a lot of money from it probably along with other goodies. AZ is run by the Dems that the cartel wanted in office for example.

Posted by: whig at January 05, 2026 04:05 PM (WDjG6)

333 Thanks, everyone.

Best blog community in the web-sphere.

Now to finish up some chores. It felt good to type in a grey box again.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2026 04:05 PM (u82oZ)

334 Prayers for you, nacly dog

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at January 05, 2026 04:05 PM (bXbFr)

335 Ensign Kelly reporting for duty on the Love Boat.....

Arizona if you reelect this panty waste you deserve what you get .....

Posted by: Jackson at January 05, 2026 04:06 PM (J9q9v)

336 Being in plays was how I became one of the Cool Kids.

Posted by: Bulg at January 05, 2026 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

337 Apparently, from the leaked scripts, DOOM kills off all of the other timelines and a shit ton of hero's and essentially resets everything so it's bullsh*t and confusing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 05, 2026 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)

338 The benefit of Kelly is he is an astronaut and boomers love them some astronauts. So he has that going for him.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at January 05, 2026 04:06 PM (sX1BW)

339
Remember, Biden was still a complete tard whenever he opened his mouth in 2020, but he just coasted. Because of his name recognition.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 04:03 PM

Granted but biden had almost all of the big money behind him plus he had the excuse of hiding in the basement dueo to covid. This time around harris isn't going to get diddly squat from the big dem donors after her stunning performance in 2024.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 04:09 PM (0N4FZ)

340 309 Kamala has one 100% Indian parent and one mixed black/white parent.

Posted by: 18-1

------------

I thought I saw a pretty convincing breakdown last year, and it isn't even 25%. It was convoluted but one of her grandparents was called "black jim" or something, but he was from Ireland and not black. and another was mixed indian and unknown (possibly black), and the other two all indian.

I messed up the details, but it was questionable if there was any Africa in her at all.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 04:09 PM (hVG+8)

341 AOC doesn't currently have the black support"

The black population and "Hispanics" only get along in theater...

Posted by: man at January 05, 2026 04:09 PM (XuXeR)

342 This year has to be better than 2025. Sorta recovered. Sorta. Christmas was tough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 05, 2026 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

343 re #340
Don't let me down.

Low and slow over the plate.

Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 04:10 PM (hVG+8)

344 Easy Shortcut :

Theater Kid = Acts like Dylan Mulvaney.
Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:57 PM (UnA8+)

An extreme, but good, example.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 04:11 PM (zZu0s)

345 339 Granted but biden had almost all of the big money behind him plus he had the excuse of hiding in the basement dueo to covid. This time around harris isn't going to get diddly squat from the big dem donors after her stunning performance in 2024.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 05, 2026 04:09 PM (0N4FZ)

======

He absolutely did not have all the money men behind him.

That's why the campaigns of Kamala, Beto, Buttigieg, and Warren got massive cash infusions because the establishment was desperate for both an non-Bernie and a non-Biden.

But, when Biden wouldn't go away, they settled with Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, barreling through the action thrills with Wolfgang Petersen at January 05, 2026 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

346 re #340
Don't let me down.

Low and slow over the plate.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at January 05, 2026 04:10 PM (hVG+

She is a graveyard of Willy Brown's progeny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 04:12 PM (zZu0s)

347 Anyone call nood, yet?

Cause there's a nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 04:13 PM (zZu0s)

348
It is also hilarious to watch some blacks twist themselves into the 'One drop of Black Blood' knots when trying to claim this or that person.

Guys, quit being reverse Nazis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 05, 2026 03:55 PM (zZu0s)

It was the DuBois-style blacks who came up with the "brown-bag test" to persecute dark-skinned black folk.

Plus ca change, and all that shit

Posted by: The Margins at January 05, 2026 04:13 PM (y9nCu)

349 You could call her Indian. Or you could call her multiracial but calling her black because she's 25% or so...? Odd.

Well because they wanted to trick black people into voting for her but...if they had any integrity...
Posted by: 18-1

Maybe it is like making punch with 25% shit.
It could be 50%, could 10%, it's all the same.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 05, 2026 04:14 PM (/lPRQ)

350 Not enough

Posted by: Gonzotx at January 05, 2026 04:15 PM (nGraA)

351 Then why are we still here?

Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2026 04:16 PM (Ia/+0)

352 Hey, I've been begging for people to accept my 50% WHITE blood.

Nobody will.
Posted by: XTC at January 05, 2026 03:59 PM (UnA8+)
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Not even the Red Cross?

Posted by: Another Anon at January 05, 2026 04:22 PM (4h45B)

353
Is this just a slight reduction, say to commander?

Or will he become Mark Kelly, Seaman Recruit?

That seems fairly appropriate as some say that Mark Kelly often recruits semen. Buuuuuut, that's just a rumor.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2026 04:50 PM (iJfKG)

354 Hegseth's deal is simply this - plan, execute, after-action review, learn. he also does stuff with intent - once the decision is made, all other considerations fall by the wayside, and the best, most effect means of obtaining the objective is then executed.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at January 05, 2026 04:53 PM (gDhA9)

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