The CIA Promoted Abstract Modern Art As a Psyop

Interesting video. The CIA promoted abstract expressionists like Mark Rothko and Jackson Pollack as some kind of bulwark against the propaganda value of Soviet art, which itself was realistic and representational. (Though idealized in showing proud, strong, happy Soviet peasants harvesting the abundant fields.)

So using taxpayer money, they pushed this crap. "Our" art would be simple geometric shapes and paint splatters.

It was literal Gay Ops.

But that's not the most egregious CIA Gay Op. They also funded and promoted leftwing magazines, including one founded by Bill Kristol's father, Irving Kristol. The point of this was to give leftwing intellectuals a leftwing ideology to believe in that wasn't actual communism.

But what they did was fund magazines that relentlessly attacked the right and pushed socialism.

Fifty years later, this op came to its ultimate fruition as a majority of the younger generations, for the first time in American history, now support socialism.

And many support communism.

Bang-up job, guys. Give yourselves all a promotion.

Just as an FYI: Irving Kristol eventually turned away from leftist more or less completely and founded the anti-communist "neoconservative" movement.

His son then turned all the way back to leftism.

Posted by: Ace at 04:50 PM

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1 FIRST!

Posted by: The_Hoser at January 02, 2026 04:56 PM (H4qGm)

2 FIRST!
Posted by: The_Hoser

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In that case, I might as well read the content.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 04:56 PM (n7rxJ)

3 Why?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 02, 2026 04:57 PM (0N4FZ)

4 Nobody made the rich people buy the ugly art but they did. Was this madness of the elite crowds?

Posted by: Decaf at January 02, 2026 04:58 PM (Z8jzG)

5
Bang-up job, guys. Give yourselves all a promotion.

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I heard another version of this from an Argentine friend of mine.

There were tons of little socialist parties in Argentina, and they all had one thing in common: they hated the official Communist party there.

CIA comes in and obliterates all the little socialist parties, leaving the Communist party the only one standing.

I don't know the CIA's side of the story, whether this was some 11-dimensional chess move or plain incompetence.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 04:59 PM (n7rxJ)

6 Well they had Roosevelt's Depression era art program as an example.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:00 PM (2GVsD)

7 I'm glad that even with this great push of ugly art the classical and beautiful art still brings the biggest bucks.

Posted by: Decaf at January 02, 2026 05:00 PM (Z8jzG)

8 "Blood splatter is art" is an idea so dumb only a Yalie could come up with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

9 So Rothko is a CIA plant?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (2GVsD)

10
Who were the great representational artists of the time? I ask in all sincerity because I don't know. Fuck me, but I like Rothko and Pollock.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (n7rxJ)

11 7 I'm glad that even with this great push of ugly art the classical and beautiful art still brings the biggest bucks.

Posted by: Decaf at January 02, 2026 05:00 PM (Z8jzG)

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People like beautiful things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

12 Seems as if the CIA had and has too much time on their hands.

Abolish.

Posted by: Abolish The CIA at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (R/m4+)

13 Everything’s a ghey, fake, and an op.

Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (Slgjz)

14 America's Untold Stories did a show on this in their CIA Files.

Well worth watching all of the CIA based videos they put out.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (grNgC)

15 Career path info. Is it a secret yey?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (YlWIZ)

16 Where does Andy Warhol fit into this narrative?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (2GVsD)

17 The Vibrant Hot Air Art Thread, and CBD, hardest hit.

Posted by: Bulg at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (77rzZ)

18 Were the CIA people that pushed this crap stupid or were they dirty commies taking advantage of easy to full stupid politicians that would fall for the con?

Posted by: PaleRider at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (hhkIi)

19 16 Where does Andy Warhol fit into this narrative?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (2GVsD)

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Dude was MiB.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (GBKbO)

20 Been meaning to get around to reading about the CIA art fiasco. Thanks for the reminder, Ace.

Posted by: scampydog at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (2bFN5)

21 Modern art was a CIA fund raising scam. Insiders bought low, pumped it, then dumped it. It turned into a fad, that wouldnt die.

Posted by: Its pyramid scheme financing legalized at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (JFpzi)

22 easy to fool. Stupid typo to make

Posted by: PaleRider at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (hhkIi)

23 LSD helped

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (pkeXY)

24 Wait, wut???

Posted by: Peaches at January 02, 2026 05:02 PM (OS/iM)

25 The 'Elites' about it because they are much a herd of cows as the proletariat.

"Well I heard the Vanderbilts just bought a Rothko."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (2GVsD)

26 The real ending to the Emperor's new coat is that the ruling class raped and murdered the kid who said the emperor was naked and then spent billions of borrowed money to also get invisible coats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

27 That worthless POS Ratcliffe probably has a Rothko hung in every room in his house. POS.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (abIsI)

28 Also, in relation to modern, abstract art, I quote Ken Jeong:

"GAYYYYYYYY!"

Posted by: The_Hoser at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (H4qGm)

29 28 Also, in relation to modern, abstract art, I quote Ken Jeong:

"GAYYYYYYYY!"

Posted by: The_Hoser at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (H4qGm)

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Si, Senor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

30 Next you'll be telling me the CIA "Promoted Abstract Modern 'Journalism' As a Psyop.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:04 PM (RV1wf)

31 CIA ruins and runs everything

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 02, 2026 05:04 PM (eZwyX)

32 I have always said Jackson Pollack was preschool garbage...now I have proof.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 02, 2026 05:04 PM (tOcjL)

33 It is well known Jackson Pollock never includes dogs or horses in any of his work. Not art.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (vzudA)

34 "Hey, where's my government check, bitch?"

Posted by: Bob Ross at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (H4qGm)

35 34 "Hey, where's my government check, bitch?"

Posted by: Bob Ross at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (H4qGm)

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"This happy little corpse needs a friend."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (GBKbO)

36 I kinda like Ratcliffe , but he doesn't seem to be moving away from a neo- con interventionist world view at Langley. It still looks like OPs are continuing to break our mind on the media

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (zNwXb)

37 Bob Ross is excluded.

His art was not 'art', but it was still pretty.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (2GVsD)

38 The CIA has been running ops against the American People since before it was founded.

Literally. It was defunded by Truman. So the Spooks went behind his back to get money from the Military.

We can have a profession spy class or a free country but not both.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

39 4 Nobody made the rich people buy the ugly art but they did. Was this madness of the elite crowds?
Posted by: Decaf
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Money laundering to avoid taxes. The truly rich investor class lives off their 'investments' not a paycheck for working. And to offset a gain, they often need a convenient 'loss' or 'deduction'. A classic way to buy some painting then donate it to an art museum at an inflated value from teh price actually paid. That donation then offsets taxes on cash gains when assets are sold for cash.

Money launderers like Art too as it is a convenient way to stash money and then cleanse it when sold even after paying the cap gain taxes.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (WDjG6)

40 So using taxpayer money, they pushed this crap. "Our" art would be simple geometric shapes and paint splatters.

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Or simple geometric turds and shit splatters in Hunter Biden's case.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (RV1wf)

41 Julia Childs was OSS, explains much does it not?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (2GVsD)

42 pumped it, then dumped it

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (Kt19C)

43 Break out in the media. Geesss

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (zNwXb)

44 Who were the great representational artists of the time? I ask in all sincerity because I don't know. Fuck me, but I like Rothko and Pollock.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:01 PM (n7rxJ)

I don't like Pollock.

But, I do like Rothko. Seeing his paintings in real life is quite a bit different than seeing them online.

And his Chapel at Rice University is very evocative. It evokes depression. Not a place to take dates.

Be sure to check out my new autobiography:

"I Was an Art Chump For the CIA"

Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (iJfKG)

45 In that case, I might as well read the content.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 04:56 PM (n7rxJ)

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Oddly enough, I DID read the content. I even hesitated, thinking someone else must have posted by now.

Blade hardest hit.

Posted by: The_Hoser at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (H4qGm)

46 33 It is well known Jackson Pollock never includes dogs or horses in any of his work. Not art.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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But he had a bio movie made about him and everything!!!!

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (WDjG6)

47 @41 "save the liver"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (zNwXb)

48 Whig

Wasn't a stolen piece of art worth $10 million in cash but $1 million in arms and ammo?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:07 PM (2GVsD)

49 The CIA probably has a budget that rivals the GDP of several western countries.

Seriously.

They more accountants on their payroll than Treasury. Or the IRS. Or H&R Block. Combined.

Much of their monies are "off the books." Various CIA run businesses (they "own" an airline) and other ventures put huge amounts of cash into their coffers.

More than their allocated, approved budget. By a lot.

The Agency is totally self sufficient. And ungovernable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:08 PM (NwnyJ)

50 Danger ops! Top of baby's head

Posted by: Pregante at January 02, 2026 05:08 PM (aTta8)

51 41 Julia Childs was OSS, explains much does it not?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Yes, putting a raw egg in french onion soup is a pure travesty; probably invented by Commies.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:08 PM (WDjG6)

52 Beer-battered pollock > Jackson Pollock

Posted by: The_Hoser at January 02, 2026 05:09 PM (H4qGm)

53
Irving Kristol < Irving Berlin

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 02, 2026 05:09 PM (IifOV)

54 I don't believe this for a second.

Modern art was something that was being pushed throughout the 20th century. You could draw a line from the Classicists to the Expressionists to the Abstractionists, and it was taking place coincident to the huge advances in science, as well as the great disillusionment after WWI. There were just as many European modern artists that had a huge influence on art as American ones. Picasso? Miro? Matisse? de Kooning? and a whole lot more.

We didn't need the CIA to push this stuff. Picasso was disrupting the art world from before Pollock picked up a paint brush. Challenge.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 02, 2026 05:09 PM (0CU3H)

55 Back in 2021, I sold all my Rothkos and Pollocks and went big on Hunter Biden's truly incredible works.

Posted by: Peaches at January 02, 2026 05:09 PM (OS/iM)

56 Jackson Pollock is from Cody, Wy. Once I was waiting at a red light in Cody when the car in front of me emptied out, like they were doing a Chinese fire drill, and the four guys started brawling. Very entertaining.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 02, 2026 05:10 PM (H6R4g)

57 Jeez. Did Tom Clancy know about this?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 02, 2026 05:10 PM (Dc8HJ)

58 The Agency is totally self sufficient. And ungovernable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:08 PM (NwnyJ)
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How long until they rebrand themselves as "The Syndicate" from Mission Impossible and call it a day?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 02, 2026 05:10 PM (ESVrU)

59 41 Julia Childs was OSS, explains much does it not?
Posted by: Anna Puma

This explains a lot about her blanching, skinning, braising, saucing, serving and eating a fresh beef tongue.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (abIsI)

60
The CIA create their own boogie men, then denounce them before eventually endorsing them.

Up is down. Left is Right.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (IifOV)

61 Pollock was a pillock.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (EEnvK)

62 Nobody ever tricked me into liking any of that crap.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (uWKK8)

63 I don't know the CIA's side of the story, whether this was some 11-dimensional chess move or plain incompetence.

Lowest hanging fruit policy born of laziness would be my guess.

Posted by: Halfhand at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (edbiH)

64
So, the CIA couldn't manage to kill Castro, but-

they got Americans to like big paint splatters as high art.

I suppose there's a lesson there somewhere.

Maybe we should've had the CIA give Castro a Full Body Tattoo.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2026 05:11 PM (iJfKG)

65

Darrell, read up about the origins of dadaism, the font and source of shit art. Commies all the way down, as it turns out the CIA was trying to promote for real. TOP MEN

Posted by: imp at January 02, 2026 05:12 PM (g6TN6)

66 The CIA: What can't it fuck up?

Posted by: zombie at January 02, 2026 05:12 PM (se8lQ)

67 48 Whig

Wasn't a stolen piece of art worth $10 million in cash but $1 million in arms and ammo?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Would not be surprised. Art collectors at the mega rich level can be unsavory and obsessive at times.

So often they would do a deal with criminals or commission a theft just so they could own a particular art piece.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:12 PM (WDjG6)

68 I hope CBD isn't working for the CIA.

If he is, I'm totally hosed. And all you morning people.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at January 02, 2026 05:12 PM (DsA2n)

69 I still unironically maintain The View is a CIA op.

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2026 05:13 PM (E0p3T)

70 What has the CIA ever done to make our country better? 😐

Posted by: Glenn at January 02, 2026 05:13 PM (gJw8Y)

71 I think we can make a very good argument that the trajectory of what passes for "serious art" is on the same timeline, and from the same root source, as the collective Death of Western Civilization.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (uWKK8)

72 Cucker Tarlson's Dad's fault

Posted by: the guy who always says it's Cucker Tarlson's Dad's fault at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (kEAv+)

73 I really hoped Trump and Ratcliffe would shutter the CIA and burn Langley to the ground. They are useless fuck ups that cost us billions if not trillions.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (abIsI)

74 63 I don't know the CIA's side of the story, whether this was some 11-dimensional chess move or plain incompetence.

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They recruited and still do from Ivy League schools. As those rotted, so did the cadre pool for the CIA. By the end of the Cold War, then all the CIA's attention was on how to make themselves relevant. Regime change across the globe then became the focus.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (WDjG6)

75 How many Pollocks does it take to screw up a painting?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (pkeXY)

76 70 What has the CIA ever done to make our country better? 😐

Posted by: Glenn at January 02, 2026 05:13 PM (gJw8Y)

We'd love to tell you but then we'd have to kill you.

Posted by: Peaches at January 02, 2026 05:14 PM (OS/iM)

77 70 What has the CIA ever done to make our country better? 😐
Posted by: Glenn a

Absolutely fucking nothing.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:15 PM (abIsI)

78 I like beet farmer art.

Posted by: wth at January 02, 2026 05:15 PM (UjdFS)

79 Remember when Tom Braden used to debate Pat Buchanan on Crossfire?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 02, 2026 05:16 PM (s0JqF)

80 Two Art Threads in one day?

That's a CIA psyop if ever I've seen one.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 02, 2026 05:16 PM (ESVrU)

81
I hope CBD isn't working for the CIA.

There's a good chance that he is.

It's a well-known fact that the CIA foisted the Stirred Manhattan on the American Public through the efforts of Leonard Bernstein in an effort to let the French gain a jump on us in the Cocktail Race in the 1950s.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2026 05:17 PM (iJfKG)

82 36 I kinda like Ratcliffe , but he doesn't seem to be moving away from a neo- con interventionist world view at Langley. It still looks like OPs are continuing to break our mind on the media
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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KGB did not prevent the regime from falling and the CIA is not omnipotent like some think.

The easiest way to neuter the CIA is to separate the analysis portion from ops and direct action. Put those operations back in the military intel.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:17 PM (WDjG6)

83 It's a well-known fact that the CIA foisted the Stirred Manhattan on the American Public through the efforts of Leonard Bernstein in an effort to let the French gain a jump on us in the Cocktail Race in the 1950s.
Posted by: naturalfake
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I thought it was CBD's attempt to destabilize the Canadian economy by eschewing maple syrup on French Toast.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:18 PM (WDjG6)

84
It is well known Jackson Pollock never includes dogs or horses in any of his work. Not art.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

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I don't know how this would be known. Take a look at Convergence #108A and tell me there are no horses or dogs in there. Or potato chips.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (n7rxJ)

85 If I can paint it, it's not art.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (YLT6F)

86 So can we admit that at least some (or a lot) of the hostility towards the US is due to our meddling? If the gov was doing this kind of crap domestically, imagine what they've been doing elsewhere.

Maybe the other side isn't completely wrong.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (6wHqY)

87
I hope this explains Andy Warhol & Thomas Kincaid

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (IifOV)

88
Soviet art, which itself was realistic and representational. (Though idealized in showing proud, strong, happy Soviet peasants harvesting the abundant fields.)

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Something fascists and communists have in common. Kum bay ya.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (azNOR)

89 You thought I was kidding?

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (Q+gd/)

90 Just think: People could have had gardens, pets and hobbies!

Posted by: KT at January 02, 2026 05:20 PM (7vIsy)

91 It is well known Jackson Pollock never includes dogs playing poker or horses in any of his work. Not art.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Posted by: wth at January 02, 2026 05:20 PM (UjdFS)

92 79 Remember when Tom Braden used to debate Pat Buchanan on Crossfire?
Posted by: Eeyore
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Pat routinely spanked Braden's ass publicly on the show. Later Bob Novak did the same to Michael Kinsley.

Amusing TV, but probably both Pat and Bob did it to pay bills just like Jack Germond did on the McLaughlin group.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:20 PM (WDjG6)

93 Yoko Ono was/is an OP.

Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2026 05:21 PM (Q+gd/)

94 88
Soviet art, which itself was realistic and representational. (Though idealized in showing proud, strong, happy Soviet peasants harvesting the abundant fields.)

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Something fascists and communists have in common. Kum bay ya.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2026 05:19 PM (azNOR
You mean FDR/WPA ‘art’ portraying the struggle.

Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2026 05:21 PM (Slgjz)

95 78 I like beet farmer art.
Posted by: wth
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Country Dick Montana painted?

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at January 02, 2026 05:21 PM (gf7Ez)

96
Julius Irving > Irving Kristol

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 02, 2026 05:21 PM (IifOV)

97 The last two to three decades really did us in. There is a whole cohort of students in their educational years from elementary to postsecondary that need 'accomodations'. a whole industry of adults suckling at the teat of the welfare state, through misrepresentation and outright fraud. we are importing the 'brazilian way' describe in that recent tiktok vid. we used to be a 'suck it up' society that abhorred being on The Dole. We have allowed a complete 180 with an entire generation or two and even if we successfully reform the younger gens, we're stuck with the damaged ones.

Posted by: Garfunkel's Sowed Oats at January 02, 2026 05:21 PM (V87Oy)

98

Orange Julius > Julius Irving > Irving Kristol

Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2026 05:22 PM (iJfKG)

99 So using taxpayer money, they pushed this crap. "Our" art would be simple geometric shapes and paint splatters.

Did the CIA also commission a nekkid fat man on an ottoman painting?

Because that is downright evil.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 02, 2026 05:23 PM (a4flb)

100 Bri. An. Stel. Ter.

Posted by: Sam Gamgee at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (lkZvI)

101 98

Orange Julius > Julius Irving > Irving Kristol

Posted by: naturalfake

There's nothing more refreshing on a hot summers day than an Orange Julius.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (abIsI)

102 > They recruited and still do from Ivy League schools.
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Not exclusively.

And they recruit a very, very wide range of skill sets and disciplines.

Accountants to Zoo Keepers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (NwnyJ)

103 Sue Ane Langdon played a ditzy artist on an Ironside episode. She wore a yellow bikini under a clear plastic smock. Worked up on a scaffold dripping and spilling paint onto the large canvas on the floor. Only time I really enjoyed modern art.

Posted by: Ars Pro Multis! at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (oftw2)

104 97 we are importing the 'brazilian way' describe in that recent tiktok vid.

importing brazilian wax > importing brazilian way

Posted by: anachronda at January 02, 2026 05:25 PM (IzeGU)

105 86 So can we admit that at least some (or a lot) of the hostility towards the US is due to our meddling? If the gov was doing this kind of crap domestically, imagine what they've been doing elsewhere.

Maybe the other side isn't completely wrong.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser
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Never adopt the oppressed oppressor lens when discussing international relations. It is and has been dog eat dog since nation states have existed. Those nations that cannot stand up to others with a military, then use corruption and soft measures to infiltrate and turn those nation's behaviors toward favor.

And a lot of my hostility to other nations is doing that crap to us whether was the UK, W. Germany, etc. They routinely leaked sensitive information, stole US technology, propped up the Soviet Union by loans and purchases, and screwed us economically. The Turd World was scarcely better, routinely violating our IP, taking our assets without compensation, and stealing whatever aid they got from the US for those in gubmint. And routinely killing, kidnapping, and terrorizing Americans abroad.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:25 PM (WDjG6)

106 "Irving Kristol eventually turned away from leftist more or less completely and founded the anti-communist "neoconservative" movement.

His son then turned all the way back to leftism."

Irving Kristol was a true intellectual, and his turn away from leftism was logically sound.

His son is a nepot and a dilettante, and hasn't had an original or even strongly thought out idea in his entire life. So he didn't turn away from anything, he is a mush-headed follower.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 02, 2026 05:25 PM (n9ltV)

107 Every painting should have some happy bushes.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at January 02, 2026 05:26 PM (lkZvI)

108 Hunter Biden enters chat to ask why the CIA did not help him?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 02, 2026 05:27 PM (WONhk)

109 Art Chad is trying to cover up a Canadian accent. What's that all aboot?

Posted by: Oglebay at January 02, 2026 05:27 PM (GPa4z)

110 Did the CIA also commission a nekkid fat man on an ottoman painting?

Because that is downright evil.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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A weapon of mass destruction. Emphasis on mass.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:27 PM (WDjG6)

111 I get excited by gay art.
A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Posted by: Tucker at January 02, 2026 05:27 PM (dKrJA)

112 Hell is entirely decorated with Rothko's.

Posted by: Poppy Bush at January 02, 2026 05:27 PM (abIsI)

113 And who do you think is behind the CIA?

Posted by: Big Penguin at January 02, 2026 05:28 PM (lkZvI)

114 Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2026 05:17 PM (iJfKG)

The shaken Manhattan is a revanchist tool of the neo-communists in our midst, and must be fought with every fiber of our being!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 02, 2026 05:28 PM (n9ltV)

115
I don't believe this for a second.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

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It's pretty sus. I read once that art departed the straightforward and confirmable-by-everyman-observation around the same time science did. There's a parallel between modern art and Newtonian physics (easily observed and easily understood by any Joe) for Einsteinian physics (like wth????).

Same thing happened in music. Stravinsky, wth? (I hate Stravinsky, though.)

So there's something much wider than the CIA's machinations going on. Culture truly zigged.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:28 PM (n7rxJ)

116 Soviet beet farmer art > Hunter Biden snot splatter

Posted by: wth at January 02, 2026 05:28 PM (UjdFS)

117 His son is a nepot and a dilettante, and hasn't had an original or even strongly thought out idea in his entire life. So he didn't turn away from anything, he is a mush-headed follower.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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He turned for Pierre Omidyar's bucks is what. If I see a picture of him nowadays with his insipid grin, I automatically look around for Omidyar cranking the organ so he can watch Kristol dance for him.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:29 PM (WDjG6)

118 Freedom of expression is something to be proud of.

Posted by: Try Painting One Yourself at January 02, 2026 05:29 PM (qUkBO)

119 86 So can we admit that at least some (or a lot) of the hostility towards the US is due to our meddling?

—

No way Jose.
They hate our free-dum.

Posted by: President Baby Doc Bush at January 02, 2026 05:29 PM (dKrJA)

120
Cod > Pollock

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 02, 2026 05:30 PM (y9nCu)

121 Or simple geometric turds and shit splatters in Hunter Biden's case.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (RV1wf)

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[Wifey retorts:] 'His geometry is gay and his shit's all retarded."

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:30 PM (RV1wf)

122 ***23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”***

https://tinyurl.com/4zkc2m3h

Posted by: JQ at January 02, 2026 05:31 PM (rdVOm)

123
I saw this story put forward in a documentary --

Mussolini crushed and largely eradicated the Sicilian Mafia. Being a dictator, he could do that. After the war, ignorant American occupation officials were looking to form a local non-fascist government, and the remnants of the Mafia put themselves forward for the role. And the local people either were ignored or didn't speak up out of fear. A renaissance for the Italian Mafia followed.

If true, it can be added to the heap of US foreign policy failures.

(I recall that for years after WW2, the official US govt position, notably including Hoover at the FBI, is that the Mafia in the US was a myth, didn't exist.)

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2026 05:31 PM (azNOR)

124 110 Did the CIA also commission a nekkid fat man on an ottoman painting?

Because that is downright evil.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

I modeled for that painting. I got a leg cramp, but I got a Jimmy Johns sub out of it. I remember because I lost have the sandwich under my right breast. I found it later but it tasted funny.

Posted by: Congressman Gerald Nadler at January 02, 2026 05:32 PM (IifOV)

125 " shaken or stirred?"
"Do I look like I give damn?"

Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2026 05:32 PM (sDNVV)

126 Watched the whole video. I guess y'all are on to some other topic by now.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 02, 2026 05:32 PM (3nLb4)

127 Neo-conservatism is communism.

Just with corporations/MIC/central banks at the head, promising to distribute the wealth equitably.

And it's easier to distribute when there are fewer humans.

Posted by: Citizen Journalist at January 02, 2026 05:33 PM (4y4II)

128 Nude guy on an ottoman is psyop gay art.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 02, 2026 05:34 PM (qp8mK)

129 103 Sue Ane Langdon played a ditzy artist on an Ironside episode. She wore a yellow bikini under a clear plastic smock. Worked up on a scaffold dripping and spilling paint onto the large canvas on the floor. Only time I really enjoyed modern art.
Posted by: Ars Pro Multis! at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (oftw2)

Now lets talk about the painting scene in The Big Lebowski.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 02, 2026 05:34 PM (uWKK8)

130 What good is a military/ industrial complex if you don't have wars to support it? ///

Posted by: Ben Had at January 02, 2026 05:35 PM (sDNVV)

131 >>>Cod > Pollock

I'll mullet over and get back to you.

Posted by: one hour sober at January 02, 2026 05:35 PM (Y1sOo)

132 This year I was determined: I will watch New Year college football games on tv ***and enjoy them***, just like I used to before I understood the establishment media is filled with college-level retards who would flunk a semester of 8th grade Algebra 1.

But I failed. Can't do it. It's either the idiocy of the game presentation with the yakking idiots in the booth, or the slow-motion dancing replays, or it's watching all the commercials pretending the US is an 80% black nation. And get the hell off my lawn.

Posted by: front toward enemy at January 02, 2026 05:35 PM (TIizU)

133 Not exclusively.

And they recruit a very, very wide range of skill sets and disciplines.

Accountants to Zoo Keepers.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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The tippy top guys are nearly all Ivy Leaguers and prep types. Same with FBI, SEC, etc. Sinecures that come with the connections from wealth and privilege. Similar to what is running Wall Street and our corporations. Because to thrive in those jobs, you need connections with powerful friends in society.

Back when they were getting started, you had someone like Allen Dulles be a humble grad of GW I think. But OSS head Wild Bill Donovan emulated the Brits with their intel and recruited primarily from the Ivies to fill it. In part, they had the contacts around the world plus the background in wealth, languages, etc. to pull off covert missions and planning. Plus they often overawed pols that sought to mind them.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (WDjG6)

134 Cod > Pollock

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 02, 2026 05:30 PM (y9nCu)

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Let the carping on fish puns begin!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (RV1wf)

135 The Soviets helped this program alond seems to me

Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (Ia/+0)

136 It's like the rumor that the CIA wrote "Wind Of Change" and used the Scorpions to make perestroika, etc. more palatable. Sounds good, but the band wrote it on a whim, per their accounts, about a very specific day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (vV6n9)

137 My dad bought me the inaugural issue of Irving Kristol's magazine in hope of curing my communism.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (RIvkX)

138 Kelly & Scotty would have resigned in disgust.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 02, 2026 05:36 PM (q3u5l)

139 Wonder what explains those Big Eye paintings...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (VE6XX)

140 Putting 2 and 2 together, does this mean our own Art Thread is an Op? What about the other, more vibrant Art Thread. Do the testicles of the CIA permeate the entire Web?

Posted by: Just Axin' at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (oftw2)

141 Cod > Pollock

Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Let the carping on fish puns begin!
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again!
......

on a grand scale.

Posted by: wth at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (v0R5T)

142 I think a beautiful gal on a chaise lounge would be be the mirror universe good version of nude guy on an ottoman.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (qp8mK)

143 When I hung out for days (by myself) in the Met and/or Smithsonian museums I avoided modern art. I just never "got it." Nor did I go to the weird stuff at the Smithsonian, like their new programs of African stuff or feminist bleah.

I did this on trips with my husband & he was in meetings. I have to say I hate that Mandingo is mayor of NYC, and the illegals & crime have ruined the good days I was there. The Met Museum is fantastic & I never saw it all, but I tried.

Dam Dims ruin everything, then import illegals to make it worse.

Modern art bores me. I am not arty or intelligent enough to stare at blobs of paint and get something out of it. Other than thinking, Why? You have paint and a canvas, paint something!

I have framed landscape paintings. Which is hard to believe, me being a nincompoop full of bull. Yet I do. Granted they are in my home and our son's, but very good. I could do more but I am too dimwitted to be in one place long enough...and I have an entire room dedicated to art. It is a goal of this year, mate. For next year's Christmas gifts. There! A goal!

My current goal is staying awake for six more hours as I could drift off right now and regret it. I am a mess!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (WONhk)

144 The Smiley Face during the '50's and '60's was definitely a CIA Psyop.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (abIsI)

145 Remember folks, any economic system will only do as well as the moral and ethical systems that accompany it.

I guess we had to learn the lesson the hard way...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (OUMaO)

146 102 > They recruited and still do from Ivy League schools.
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Not exclusively.

And they recruit a very, very wide range of skill sets and disciplines.

Accountants to Zoo Keepers.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (NwnyJ)

But all of them 'morally flexible'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (xcxpd)

147
George H Bush was CIA Director under President Ford 1976-1977.
I am now convinced the Pet Rocks were his cyops.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 02, 2026 05:38 PM (IifOV)

148 I recall that for years after WW2, the official US govt position, notably including Hoover at the FBI, is that the Mafia in the US was a myth, didn't exist.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Hoover hated putting agents undercover was part of it and some suspect that Hoover was blackmailed to ignore it. Others thought it was because he preferred to go after easy pickings like bank robberies rather than the long term operations necessary to take out the mob. There was also no RICO act making a lot of what the mob did, a state rather than federal concern.

RICO is what broke the mob's power essentially over time.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:38 PM (WDjG6)

149 Let the carping on fish puns begin!
Posted by: ShainS

Not a much fun since Trump exploded the Green Nude Eel.

Posted by: Know Your Plaice at January 02, 2026 05:39 PM (oftw2)

150 The art world has always been a lefty group of snooty shits. Only thing thatHitler was somewhat correct on was his degenerate art designation but of course he took that too far also.

Posted by: All criminals, illegals and crazy people at January 02, 2026 05:39 PM (KDPiq)

151 Off sock

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (KDPiq)

152 Bible Study Corner.

Porn Star Who Had Sex With 1,113 Men In 12 Hours Gets Baptized, Says She Wants To Show Sex Work Is "Multifaceted"

https://is.gd/WifT6I

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Like Shakespeare Except More Betterer at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (L/fGl)

153 129 103 Sue Ane Langdon played a ditzy artist on an Ironside episode. She wore a yellow bikini under a clear plastic smock. Worked up on a scaffold dripping and spilling paint onto the large canvas on the floor. Only time I really enjoyed modern art.
Posted by: Ars Pro Multis! at January 02, 2026 05:24 PM (oftw2)

Now lets talk about the painting scene in The Big Lebowski.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 02, 2026 05:34 PM (uWKK

My favorite parody of Modern Art was in the original Batman series, with Adam West. Cesar Romero's Joker entered an art contest, and he won with a canvas that had absolutely nothing on it. The Joker mimed putting his finishing touches on it, but he put nothing at all on the canvas. That was hysterical to me when I saw the show as a wee lad in the 70s.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (0CU3H)

154 145 Remember folks, any economic system will only do as well as the moral and ethical systems that accompany it.

A monarchical system is the best system.

Posted by: Citizen Journalist at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (4y4II)

155 Picasso was a commie shit so I don't know about the CIA theory.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:41 PM (KDPiq)

156 >>> Porn Star Who Had Sex With 1,113 Men In 12 Hours Gets Baptized, Says She Wants To Show Sex Work Is "Multifaceted"

https://is.gd/WifT6I
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Like Shakespeare Except More Betterer at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (L/fGl)

Go and whore no more.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 02, 2026 05:42 PM (qp8mK)

157 E Everett Horton refers to him as "Jackson Plop". Heh.

Posted by: Hurdy Gurdy Man at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (fX1tL)

158 The children are our future.

McDonald's Employee Hospitalized After Reaching Into Fryer To Retrieve Earbud

https://is.gd/OEyDfL

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Like Shakespeare Except More Betterer at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (L/fGl)

159 Jackson Pollock, Number 1, 1950 (Lavender Mist):

https://www.nga.gov/artworks/55819-number-
1-1950-lavender-mist

Posted by: Try Painting One Yourself at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (qUkBO)

160 The fish puns are off the scale.

Posted by: Oh, no... at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (2Ez/1)

161 We just have to reject the frigidity of rugged individualism and embrace the warmth of collectivism. And splatter-y shit.

Posted by: Peaches at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (OS/iM)

162 Rothko, Pollack, and the other abstract expressionists believed in what they were doing. Whether or not the CIA exploited their art, the artists believed in their own artistic visions.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at January 02, 2026 05:43 PM (wWU6x)

163 Norman Rockwell did a great Pollock painting within his painting The Connoisseur.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (KDPiq)

164 It's pretty sus. I read once that art departed the straightforward and confirmable-by-everyman-observation around the same time science did. There's a parallel between modern art and Newtonian physics (easily observed and easily understood by any Joe) for Einsteinian physics (like wth????).

Same thing happened in music. Stravinsky, wth? (I hate Stravinsky, though.)

So there's something much wider than the CIA's machinations going on. Culture truly zigged.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:28 PM (n7rxJ)

Agreed. Actually, this points to a problem that I see in how modern art is presented. I think the movement would mean a lot more to people if they knew what Modern Art was created as a response to. You never see that context in museums, and it's really hard to judge the piece properly without understanding what the intellectual underpinning of the work is. I find that a lot of modern art actually does make sense when placed in the context that you describe above.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (0CU3H)

165 > The tippy top guys are nearly all Ivy Leaguers and prep types.....
Posted by: whig
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No they're not.

I have family that once worked there. This is false.

And I myself was recruited, but didn't take the offers to join both the CIA or NSA.

Check your work.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (NwnyJ)

166 All of my paintings are entitled "woman lounging on deck of sailing yacht while wearing a bikini and drinking a cocktail".

Posted by: Oglebay at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (GPa4z)

167 152 Bible Study Corner.

Porn Star Who Had Sex With 1,113 Men In 12 Hours Gets Baptized, Says She Wants To Show Sex Work Is "Multifaceted"

https://is.gd/WifT6I
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Like Shakespeare Except More Betterer

She'll insist confessionals be outfitted with glory holes?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (abIsI)

168 Ask your doctor if a Monarchial System is right for you.

Posted by: Big Farma at January 02, 2026 05:45 PM (2Ez/1)

169 hey remember the urban legend about the CIA introducing crack into Afro-American neighborhoods?

I always wondered how (if true) that was discovered. I never believed it, but now, maaaaybe we should take a fresh look, you know?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (G8rWB)

170 166 All of my paintings are entitled "woman lounging on deck of sailing yacht while wearing a bikini and drinking a cocktail".
Posted by: Oglebay at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (GPa4z)

I think if you actually sell them you could write off the boat and suntan oil as expenses. YMMV

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (YLT6F)

171 152 Bible Study Corner.

Porn Star Who Had Sex With 1,113 Men In 12 Hours Gets Baptized, Says She Wants To Show Sex Work Is "Multifaceted"

https://is.gd/WifT6I
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Like Shakespeare Except More Betterer at January 02, 2026 05:40 PM (L/fGl)

Good for her. I hear those who seek will find. If she's seeking, then she won't be the first porn star to turn to Christ.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

172 Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:44 PM (NwnyJ)

To be fair he said NEARLY all.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (KDPiq)

173 But I failed. Can't do it. It's either the idiocy of the game presentation with the yakking idiots in the booth, or the slow-motion dancing replays, or it's watching all the commercials pretending the US is an 80% black nation. And get the hell off my lawn.
Posted by: front toward enemy at January 02, 2026 05:35 PM (TIizU)

Find the last 10min of the Ole Miss vs Georgia game last night.

I totally loved the chaos and insanity! My husband knew I would and told me about it. I watched it today and it's hysterically wacko.

I did not watch but one game all season. Because once my teams start losing I am done. I love college football but the portal and $ have ruined it for me.

I can be a rabid lunatic with college basketball.Nearly blue a fuse/fell off a balcony yelling once at Coach K as he went beneath me after the refs helped them win.

Have been since age 5yrs & my father took me to games. I made the yearbook with my big ole mouth yelling & wearing a pleated wool skirt. I should have been a cheerleader mascot. Knew the players. Slapped one on his butt after a big win, & Daddy told me this is just not done. The college guy did look startled, but I was just being one with the team.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 02, 2026 05:47 PM (WONhk)

174 142 I think a beautiful gal on a chaise lounge would be be the mirror universe good version of nude guy on an ottoman.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 02, 2026 05:37 PM (qp8mK)

Second look at Wet Leg?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (xcxpd)

175 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

She ain't giving up her porn job. She ain't found Christ yet.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (KDPiq)

176
I find that a lot of modern art actually does make sense when placed in the context that you describe above.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

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Dissociation of Consciousness after WWI. Can we begin to conceive of the devastation from that time? All those young men killed?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (n7rxJ)

177 California Defies Federal Deadline, Postpones Revocation of 17,000 Commercial Licenses for Immigrant Truck Drivers, Many of Whom are Illegal Aliens

Sounds insurrectionee.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (abIsI)

178 I only like music that sounds like the real world. Waves, automobile horns, breaking glass, light switches flipping on and off. Jazz is stupid, Rock is satanic.

Posted by: 900 Opinions Per Asshole at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (qUkBO)

179 Another couple angles to the modern art thing: photography made realistic depictions a lot easier, so of course "real artists" would try something different

and also the World Wars (especially the 1st) were scarring and brought out the nihilism in a lot of people.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (G8rWB)

180 I took an "Art Appreciation" as an undergrad. I sort of floated through it without much interest. HOWEVER, there is a kid in the class who was a real troublemaker. Extremely intelligent and not a big fan of most forms of art. I still remember a comment he made to the Prof that just about knocked me over. Something like:

"I keep hearing that art has little to do with practicality and pragmatism. But, I disagree. The artists' community as a whole are so pragmatic that they create entirely separate categories for paintings so as to accommodate those that no one likes, but pretend to like, and those that absolutely suck or reflect a severe lack of talent."

Had I been drinking coffee at the time, a spit take would have evolved.

Posted by: Orson at January 02, 2026 05:49 PM (dIske)

181 169 hey remember the urban legend about the CIA introducing crack into Afro-American neighborhoods?

I always wondered how (if true) that was discovered. I never believed it, but now, maaaaybe we should take a fresh look, you know?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (G8rWB)

Dark Alliance by Gary Webb, he had some thought on this and Bary Seal was flying drugs for the Cartel and if memory serves me he was flying them into Mena, Ak.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 02, 2026 05:49 PM (YLT6F)

182 175 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

She ain't giving up her porn job. She ain't found Christ yet.
Posted by: Opinion fact

She's mocking Christianity.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:49 PM (abIsI)

183 176
I find that a lot of modern art actually does make sense when placed in the context that you describe above.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

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Dissociation of Consciousness after WWI. Can we begin to conceive of the devastation from that time? All those young men killed?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (n7rxJ)

Exactly. You can't fully understand Modern Art without fully comprehending how completely WWI disrupted the Old Order.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 02, 2026 05:50 PM (0CU3H)

184 175 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

She ain't giving up her porn job. She ain't found Christ yet.
Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:48 PM (KDPiq)

But she's trying, right? Not everyone suddenly turns perfect when they convert or get baptized , a lot wander and have to find their path back to God.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 02, 2026 05:50 PM (xcxpd)

185
Now lets talk about the painting scene in The Big Lebowski.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 02, 2026 05:34 PM (uWKK

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I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"
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Posted by: ShainS -- Make Lustration Great Again! at January 02, 2026 05:50 PM (RV1wf)

186 To be fair he said NEARLY all.
Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:46 PM (KDPiq)
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Point taken.

But there a a lot of "questionable" people at the highest levels of our IC and they are definitely not "Ivy League."

Making it sound as if there's some sort of high level, super educated class of authorities is just stupid.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 02, 2026 05:51 PM (NwnyJ)

187 134 Cod > Pollock

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 02, 2026 05:30 PM (y9nCu)

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Let the carping on fish puns begin!

not sure i'm up to that. i'm not exactly a rocket sturgeon here.

Posted by: anachronda at January 02, 2026 05:52 PM (edU/H)

188 Dark Alliance by Gary Webb, he had some thought on this and Bary Seal was flying drugs for the Cartel and if memory serves me he was flying them into Mena, Ak.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Sean Ryan, admitted dealing drugs when he was working in Latin America for the CIA as a contractor.

You can dig up what he said directly about it on You Tube.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:54 PM (WDjG6)

189 I could understand Warhol's Marilyn Monroe portrait.

I don't understand Warhol's Campbell's soup portrait.

The slopping of crap onto canvas, big deal. I'd rather buy a painting by Koko the dead gorilla. I think it was Koko. It was not Harambe.

GWB now paints doggie paintings and I think he should have stuck to that as soon as he said Eeslam is the religion of peace. Man, that made me mad post 9/11. The last time I liked him, altho I realize I'd rather have him than Gore then.

I have changed a lot since 9/11/01 and 9/11/12 Beghanzi, which sent me loonie for weeks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 02, 2026 05:55 PM (WONhk)

190 I like a lot of abstract but it's usually from artists that can paint realism if they chose to.

Posted by: Opinion fact at January 02, 2026 05:57 PM (KDPiq)

191 You can dig up what he said directly about it on You Tube.
Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:54 PM (WDjG6)

Thanks, I will check it out.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 02, 2026 05:58 PM (YLT6F)

192 Making it sound as if there's some sort of high level, super educated class of authorities is just stupid.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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You are making Ivy education equivalent to super educated. For the most part, it is more about connections before and after attendance.

Same with State Department.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 05:58 PM (WDjG6)

193 WWI killed a civilization, us included.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at January 02, 2026 05:58 PM (wWU6x)

194 Scott Adams asked people to let his biographer know if Scott's work had helped them. It lead to this thread:

https://tinyurl.com/38puct54

(Goes to X)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 02, 2026 05:59 PM (+mUZM)

195 CaliGirl,

This is a story about Ryan, but if you dig around YT (and this story has some links) you can find him being interviewed about it.

https://tinyurl.com/mvhud8z3

"I always watched the documentaries about counter drug operations, Panama, a lot of stuff in Colombia, so I decided to go check it out down there. I had a great time. So I kept going back. All the way past my time at the agency."

Talking to Kelly, Ryan explains his trips to South America as an addiction to adrenaline. But he also picked up a substance addiction while over there. Ryan: "So I was going down there. Doing a lot of stuff that I shouldn’t be doing. Cocaine."

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 06:00 PM (WDjG6)

196 194 Scott Adams asked people to let his biographer know if Scott's work had helped them. It lead to this thread:

https://tinyurl.com/38puct54

(Goes to X)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 02, 2026 05:59 PM (+mUZM)

Thank you. This is fucking breaking my heart.

Posted by: Peaches at January 02, 2026 06:02 PM (OS/iM)

197 >>You are making Ivy education equivalent to super educated. For the most part, it is more about connections before and after attendance.

>>Same with State Department.

Having dealt with these people all my life including members of own family I rate this as 100% true.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 02, 2026 06:02 PM (viF8m)

198 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at January 02, 2026 06:02 PM (LdBR/)

199 She's mocking Christianity.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 02, 2026 05:49 PM (abIsI)
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A lot of people start that way, thinking that it's a lark and they'll have the last laugh.

God works in mysterious ways.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 02, 2026 06:03 PM (ZOv7s)

200 Smartest guy in my high school class (not me, I only earned a PhD in physics) was recruited by the NSA and was still working there last I heard.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at January 02, 2026 06:03 PM (wWU6x)

201 Good for her. I hear those who seek will find. If she's seeking, then she won't be the first porn star to turn to Christ.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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My guess is though she won't read in the Bible when Jesus met the woman at Jacob's well and telling her to sin no more.

Baptism is only the start of the process in becoming Christian.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 06:03 PM (WDjG6)

202 The Socialists to me started the lets paint and let drugs fill it out in the viewer

Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2026 06:05 PM (Ia/+0)

203 A lot of people start that way, thinking that it's a lark and they'll have the last laugh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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And vice versa with darkness and evil. You lie down with Stan and get up with Stan's Spiritually Transmitted Diseases.

Posted by: whig at January 02, 2026 06:06 PM (WDjG6)

204 I've never liked Rothko, Pollack, or any of those abstract no talent 'artists'.

I've laid better looking shit.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 02, 2026 06:08 PM (Vh9CX)

205 So it wasn't just weird junk, it was government-supported weird junk.

Posted by: SKT at January 02, 2026 06:27 PM (xNh50)

206 You just know U2 was their psyop too! C'mon!

Posted by: Dave at January 02, 2026 06:33 PM (NN9NC)

207 Porn Star Who Had Sex With 1,113 Men In 12 Hours Gets Baptized, Says She Wants To Show Sex Work Is "Multifaceted"

https://is.gd/WifT6I

Sorry hon, the baptism requires you to stop the sex work.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 02, 2026 06:56 PM (Cznub)

208 105 It is and has been dog eat dog since nation states have existed. Those nations that cannot stand up to others with a military, then use corruption and soft measures to infiltrate and turn those nation's behaviors toward favor.

So basically, we should live by the "do unto others before they undo you" principle?

Maybe that's the only way to survive this world, but it doesn't give you much room to complain when you see other folks doing it.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at January 02, 2026 07:01 PM (ERYKL)

209 Sorry hon, the baptism requires you to stop the sex work.

The baptism doesn’t, but Christ does if you are going to come to Him.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at January 02, 2026 07:10 PM (wWU6x)

210 > 41 Julia Childs was OSS, explains much does it not?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2026 05:06 PM (2GVsD)

It's amazing what useful information comes up when you're exchanging recipes, cooking tips, and gossip with the wives of the other diplomats.

And no one ever suspected a thing.

Posted by: Julia Child, the French Chef of Station at January 02, 2026 08:17 PM (IG3/x)

211 I heard stripping. Or did I.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 02, 2026 08:35 PM (ZRzmB)

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