The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

[I should have a cup like that. Because it is so true.]

Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. I hope those who celebrate Christmas had a wonderful and joyous Christmas Eve and Day. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to take care of. (Rulz for those of you in ~~Brokaw~~ Maine.)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind. Be nice. The list is starting fresh.
3) Running with sharp objects? Do you have Health Savings money you need to spend?
4) Have a great weekend and see you next year!

AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List
Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Prayer Requests:
11/6 - D sent an update on his wife Susan, and her battle with cancer. He sent his thanks to everyone for the prayers. They are helping and much appreciated. Susan had an infection which is being treated, but her sodium levels are bad again. She will be sent home soon, but is on restrictive fluids until this is cleared up. The good news is that she has gained some weight back and her voice is much stronger now. Thank you, and please keep up the prayers. They appreciate everyone!
11/20 Update – Susan is out of the hospital, after 2 weeks. For the first time in months, she doesn’t have any drainage tubes. Chemo is on hold for the next 2 weeks, to give her time to rest, recover, and gain some weight back. Thank you, everyone, for your prayers – please continue them!
12/18 Update – Susan has been receiving IV antibiotics at home for the last few weeks. Thankfully her white count is back to normal, and she was able to start chemo again. Some of that cancer did come back, in the meantime, but they think it will be knocked back down now. She has been having abdominal pains. Thank you, everybody, for your prayers.
11/15 – Sponge posted an update on the “First lady”. She is doing OK from the surgery pain-wise, however it appears her compromised immune system from chemo is susceptible to viruses. She has been spiking a fever all weekend.
12/13 Update – The First lady is doing well. She is still on restrictions but things are progressing nicely. The last mammogram showed clean. They are grateful to all who have been praying for her.
11/20 - Bluebell sent an update on grammie winger - good news! At her appointment, the doctor said her bloodwork is nearly perfect and her cancer cell count is dropping. She is in minimal pain. The chemo is working, thanks be to God! She will go back in 3 weeks for another round of chemo and then they will do a CT scan to see if she can have surgery to clean out the rest of the tumors. She is convinced – CONVINCED – that this is due in no small part to the treasured prayers of friends and family! They gave her weeks, and now she is looking at possible remission.
12/17 Update – Bluebell sent along another update from grammie winger. She has had 4 rounds of chemo, which have fried her short term memory (her words) and caused great fatigue. She was scheduled for surgery this week, but the doctor decided she was too weak, so she will continue with chemo until she is stronger. She apologized for not being around much because she can’t follow conversations, but is praying that will get better once her chemo is over. In the meantime, she wishes to share her Christmas greetings with the “motley crew”, and she appreciates every prayer.
11/29 – From about That Time asked for prayers after a lymphoma diagnosis. From about That Time has already begun chemo, and the kids and granddaughter had fun cutting off a ponytail and shaving hair in preparation.
12/13 Update – The first week of chemo was “like buttah”, but the second week was spent in the hospital, dealing with side effects.
12/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. She had an MRI on 12/3, and will meet with the oncologist on 12/4, the surgeon on 12/8, and the surgery on 12/11. This is a good thing, because it looks like more tumors are starting to crop up in her liver. It doesn’t appear to have spread beyond there yet, thank goodness.
12/18 Update – Teresa will have a “pump fill” on Friday, then head out of town. (The fill is just Heparin and saline to keep the pump flowing for the next 2 weeks.) After they are back, the pump will have the new chemo medication. The best Christmas present is, if this pump works, she could go 2-3 YEARS before worrying about the cancer coming back. It is truly a Christmas miracle. She wrote that they are blessed to have such stellar medical care nearby and so many people saying prayers on their behalf.
12/6 – M requested prayers for Ron and Sherri. Ron has late stage Parkinson’s/dementia, and he recently fell and shattered his hip. He also requested prayers for Al, who fell through a railing and then down 12 feet, and broke seven ribs. He also punctured his lung. He is home now, recovering.
12/6 – Comrade Flounder asked for prayers for his FIL, who went to the hospital for AFIB, congestive heart, and received two stents. FIL is home now, still short of breath, and has a long road ahead. He is a kind-hearted man and a loving father. Comrade Flounder’s wife lost her mother a few years back to brain cancer, so having this go on is even more difficult during the holidays.
12/6 – neverenoughcaffeine asked for prayers for Tim, an acquaintance through church. He has prostate cancer and begins 28 days straight of radiation.
12/6 – pawn asked for prayers for a dear friend named Julia, who was told by her doctors that she has very little time to live. Julia has an incredible mind and drive. She was a Naval officer, a college professor, a competitive sailor, and a mother. She went to the hospital with pneumonia a couple of weeks ago and left with a terminal illness diagnosis. Please pray to God to give her the strength she needs in these last few days, and the peace that comes from acceptance.
12/12 – Bulg requested prayers for his wife’s brother’s wife, whose dementia has taken a turn for the worse. This week she entered a memory care facility. He asks for prayers for her, Bulg’s brother-in-law, and their two grown daughters. Bulg also asked for prayers for a woman from church who has cancer, and the woman’s granddaughter, who lives with her.
12/13 – Our Country is Screwed asked for prayers for a dear friend’s 3 week old granddaughter who is battling meningitis. They are waiting on results from an MRI. Another friend’s wife is having kidney issues. She has only one kidney, and it isn’t functioning well.
12/13 – San Franpsycho requested prayers for Mrs. F, who sprained her foot due to a fall on 12/12.
12/13 – FenelonSpoke asked for prayers for retired organist Jessie, for strength and for her to feel God’s love. In the past month Jessie’s daughter has died from cancer, as have her two closest friends from church, whom she had known about 85 years.
12/13 – Schnorflepuppy asked for prayers for his wife. She was diagnosed a few weeks back with inflammatory breast cancer and started chemo on 12/2. On 12/3 she spiked a 104 fever and had to be brought to the hospital, where they discovered pneumonia. She has been in ICU for most of the week, to get her enough oxygen and work on the pneumonia. She is improving, but slowly.
12/22 Update – Unfortunately, the improvement trend has reversed. She has spent the last 8 days on oxygen support. The doctors would like to wean her off the vent eventually, but they need to see more improvement in her condition and thus far, they haven’t.
12/16 – Jim in Kalifornia sent an update that surgery went well, and his thanks for the prayers.
12/16 – Banana Dream asked for prayers for his wife, who is having surgery on 12/17 to remove pins, steel, hardware, etc. that was put in a year ago after a really bad break of her ankle. The hardware has caused various nerve issues and inflammation over the last year, so the surgeons will be removing it.
12/17 Update – Banana Dream sent his thanks to everyone who offered prayers for his wife’s surgery. It went well. The surgeon removed most of the hardware. There was one part that was too fused with the bone, so it had to stay in. She is doing well. In about 2 weeks, she should be able to walk and then in 6-8 weeks she should be fine.
12/17 – Annie’s Stew sends thanks to God for notsothoreau, who sends many, many prayer requests from the various comments and postings. Notsothoreau is so diligent and such a sweet person!
12/17 – Weird Dave requested prayers. His parents have realized they need to move to assisted living, but they are 1500 miles from Weird Dave. Prayers for clarity on how to make the necessary changes as efficiently as possible, as well as to find the best place for his parents, that will also work for the entire family.
12/20 – Legally Sufficient asked for prayers for a brother who was having carpal tunnel surgery on Christmas Eve. There was a cancellation, so he took the spot, even though the brother is hosting the family dinner on Christmas Eve.
12/20 – Morgan, longtime lurker, takes tango lessons from Sebastian, whose son, Matias, is recovering from brain surgery. The MRI were read on 12/19, and the surgeons did not remove the entire tumor. Even though the biopsy indicated the tumor was benign, the boy is probably facing several rounds of chemo. Please pray for the boy’s continued recovery in El Salvador.
12/20 – Nurse Ratched requested prayers for her friend T. He is having some unrelenting (probably cancer treatment related) pain and needs comfort – both physically and spiritually.
12/23 – Joe Kidd asked for prayers for his friend, Bill, who is grieving the sudden death of a former girlfriend. They had broken up a few months ago over her alcohol use. Bill describes the loss as the toughest thing life has dealt him. Bill is the sole caregiver for his 90 year old mother and may need to take early retirement to continue in that role. Prayers for comfort, strength, and wisdom are welcome.
12/23 – Prayers are requested for Inspector’s boss, “B”, who is in his early 40s, and is being hit hard by Covid. He went to ER, after coughing so badly that he separated a couple of ribs. The pain in his ribs is so bad he doesn’t want to cough, which increases the odds of pneumonia. Please pray for healing.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:00 AM

Comments

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1 Mornin, all!

Posted by: Brush With Greatness at December 27, 2025 07:56 AM (oftw2)

2 Yup
It's morning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 27, 2025 07:57 AM (2bvEV)

3 It's not 08:00am

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 07:58 AM (NwnyJ)

4 Lol at the mug
Me too

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 27, 2025 07:59 AM (gDlxJ)

5 Prayers for all on the list, and all the horde in need

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 27, 2025 08:02 AM (gDlxJ)

6 Yeah. Can't believe I screwed up and let that happen.
Time to seriously consider retirement.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 08:02 AM (2Ez/1)

7 Mornin', all

That mug's quip is so true!

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at December 27, 2025 08:02 AM (WE0m7)

8 Good morning, All, on the last weekend of the year.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 08:03 AM (CKLSw)

9 Good morning dear horde with gratitude for annie and mh and you morons for praying

I have a praise report from a former colleague I have not seen for a while she has been busy defeating metastasized uterine cancer. Gained 20 pounds back in the last month. She walked a half mile to meet me and then another mile to shop. b"h

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 08:04 AM (9ipOP)

10 This year has just flown by. I swear the earth must be spinning faster

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at December 27, 2025 08:04 AM (WE0m7)

11 After all the family nights this week I could use a day off.

Posted by: Huck Grinchly-Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:05 AM (MHixg)

12 Prayers for the horde, and all those who asked.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:06 AM (MHixg)

13 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 08:06 AM (Ia/+0)

14 Is COVID still a thing?

Posted by: no one at December 27, 2025 08:07 AM (qFwJc)

15 It's like a roll of toilet paper.
Speeds up as you near the end.

Posted by: Bathroom wisdom at December 27, 2025 08:07 AM (2Ez/1)

16 Wear two masks!

Posted by: Karen McAwfl, alone in her car at December 27, 2025 08:09 AM (2Ez/1)

17 Is a 2nd cup of coffee indicated this morning? Yes. Yes it is.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 27, 2025 08:09 AM (fS43b)

18 “ But from everlasting to everlasting
the Lord’s love is with those who fear him,
and his righteousness with their children’s children— with those who keep his covenant and remember to obey his precepts.”

Psalm 103:17-18

Posted by: Marcus T, Videtur et hoc mihi, Europa non debere esse at December 27, 2025 08:12 AM (wj4wL)

19 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

Posted by: Caffiend at December 27, 2025 08:14 AM (oftw2)

20 Morning caffeinated folk. It was a strange Christmas this year since Mr. nec and I spent Christmas Eve driving back from the specialty vet in Bozeman while Lily was having surgery. We were so tired on Christmas Day that we went to Mass and than back home to vegetate the rest of the day. Opened our gifts, ate and drank and watched Hallmark movies. Mr. nec loves Hallmark Christmas movies. The Lily Beagle is back home and it's snowing, possibly our first major snow event of the season. God is good and I've sent my prayers up for all on the list and will add a few for folks we know that are fighting health issues.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 27, 2025 08:15 AM (2NHgQ)

21 Heh. From Dave Barry's Year In Review:

"On January 20 Trump is sworn into office and — after unsuccessfully attempting to kiss his wife, Melania, who as a defensive measure is wearing the wide-brim style of hat popularized by both the Hamburglar and Zorro."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 08:17 AM (2Ez/1)

22 Good morning Horde . Thx MisHum happy holidays.
Well finished 80% of snow shoveling. Got about nine inches of snow last night. Thankfully it was light , fluffy type snow. Temperature are going to drop into single digits tonight, then reach 45° by Monday. Yay slush.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 27, 2025 08:17 AM (2vrAX)

23 While out and about on Christmas Eve, I ran into something truly awful - a funeral procession.

I can’t imagine there being a funeral then. Of course, death is terrible at any time but especially around Christmas.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:20 AM (muXU/)

24 Possible reasons or motives behind appointment of lesbian fire chief with no fire department experience.
1. This incoming mayor is stupid.
2. He's not stupid but doesn't care about the proper management of a fire department or public safety.
3. He really loves gay people and wants to give them important positions to boost their self esteem.
4. He is deliberately attempting to divide society and create havoc within the system.

Or some combination of all four?

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 27, 2025 08:21 AM (VnsnO)

25 My bride loves that Chevy is celebrating family life in their new ad. Personally, I think the dog should get a bigger role, but what do I know. This is via the NY Post, in case the link is screwy.

https://tinyurl.com/2bpv24nm

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:21 AM (/VF+8)

26 A year when your a kid is a large percentage of your life experience
A year in older age is barely a month's worth

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 08:22 AM (Ia/+0)

27
Happy Caturday, everyone! Made it safely to Diana, TX yesterday evening. Going to spend the day with Mom, and my nephew's family. Nephew's band is coming over for venison chili. Nom, nom nom.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 27, 2025 08:24 AM (WdmJl)

28 > Possible reasons or motives behind appointment of lesbian fire chief with no fire department experience.
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A. It's a move to garner support/obedience from the alphabet brigade
B. It's a move to tweak the normals because they hate this shit.
C. both A and B

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 08:24 AM (NwnyJ)

29 Sadly, TDS infects Dave Barry this year:

https://davebarry.substack.com/p/the-year-in-review

Still some funny stuff. Not much but some.

Hilarious though, if you have TDS.

Dave Barry, we hardly knew ye and your sense of humor.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 27, 2025 08:27 AM (iJfKG)

30 At some point in the next 4 years we will see the fire brigade actually having to burn the books that contain things you should not know.

Posted by: NYC Reporter at December 27, 2025 08:27 AM (gbOdA)

31 A. It's a move to garner support/obedience from the alphabet brigade
B. It's a move to tweak the normals because they hate this shit.
C. both A and B
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 08:24 AM (NwnyJ)

Scissor me timbers!

A scissoring fire chief is one thing. My problem is: a scissoring fire chief WITH NO FD EXPERIENCE.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:27 AM (muXU/)

32 Pixy needs that cup.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2025 08:28 AM (lFFaq)

33 >>venison chili. Nom, nom nom.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Oooh, that sounds good!

Chili should be on my list of what to make soon.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at December 27, 2025 08:29 AM (WE0m7)

34 Jack n the Box doesn't offer bacon n eggs for breakfast anymore and McDonald's is mostly carbohydrates. They say fluffy scrambled eggs. Last time I got their big breakfast MRE eggs looked better than theirs.

Guess I'll go to the fridge and cook up a Jimmy Dean Croissant w/sausage, egg n cheese.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 08:29 AM (U5+2P)

35 Good morning Horde . Thx MisHum happy holidays.
Well finished 80% of snow shoveling. Got about nine inches of snow last night. Thankfully it was light , fluffy type snow. Temperature are going to drop into single digits tonight, then reach 45° by Monday. Yay slush.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 27, 2025 08:17 AM (2vrAX)

A few inches, if that, here in our part of the state. Bits of lawn is actually still exposed. Dan Zarrow on NJ 101.5 was pretty much on the mark with snow amounts.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 27, 2025 08:29 AM (5xuJ/)

36 I read Dave Barry thru March and never even smiled.
Just mentioning Big Balls would have been funnier than everything he wrote about the first quarter of the year.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 08:31 AM (gbOdA)

37 *Breaking*, from Week in Pictures:

"Jeffrey Epstein appears multiple times in newly released Clinton Files!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:31 AM (qncWG)

38 Mornin’, All. Happy Saturday.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 08:31 AM (77rzZ)

39 Last time I got their big breakfast MRE eggs looked better than theirs.

Guess I'll go to the fridge and cook up a Jimmy Dean Croissant w/sausage, egg n cheese.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 08:29 AM (U5+2P)

SUB ROUND EGG gets you a real egg on the biscuit.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 08:31 AM (gbOdA)

40 If you husband gets himself in a bad way and dies in a fire that is his fault.
It is more important what I look like.

Posted by: Cali Fire Chief at December 27, 2025 08:33 AM (gbOdA)

41 Two Jimmy Dean chicken biscuits smothered in white gravy.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 27, 2025 08:34 AM (sDNVV)

42 An omelette and coffee at IHOP is $20.
Thanks Jabiden!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 08:34 AM (2Ez/1)

43 Powerline linkypoo.

https://tinyurl.com/4buf2t6b

Midwest chick linkypoo.

https://tinyurl.com/4khkkerd

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Linkypoo Maven at December 27, 2025 08:36 AM (4y9Oc)

44 40 If you husband gets himself in a bad way and dies in a fire that is his fault.
It is more important what I look like.
Posted by: Cali Fire Chief at December 27, 2025 08:33 AM (gbOdA

----

A quote that will live in infamy.
And she looks like a smug whale.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 08:38 AM (eYyUS)

45 > Last time I got their big breakfast MRE eggs looked better than theirs.
--------
Went to Bob Evans about 2 years ago for breakfast. It used to be pretty good. Not anymore. Everything but the toast and coffee was microwaved from frozen and bland.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 08:39 AM (NwnyJ)

46 Good Saturday morning, horde.

Prayers for all on the list, and the rest of you as well.

Schnorflepuppy, I continue to keep your wife in my prayers. And you--I know it's difficult for you to go through this with her.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 27, 2025 08:40 AM (h7ZuX)

47 High of 80 today with a high of 38 Monday.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 27, 2025 08:40 AM (gm9Sb)

48 Ah yes. Dave Barry.

boom goes the boomer

good morning! praying for all

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 27, 2025 08:40 AM (emBoF)

49 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 27, 2025 08:41 AM (Cjt/F)

50 Got about an inch of sleet last night. Made everything look sort of Christmasey.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 27, 2025 08:42 AM (31p00)

51 I can’t imagine there being a funeral then. Of course, death is terrible at any time but especially around Christmas.
Posted by: Cow Demon

When the Lord gets ready-you gotta move!

Posted by: Mick and Keef at December 27, 2025 08:43 AM (oftw2)

52 Lillian, don't be a schnook
It's not how you feel, it's how you look.

And you look marvelous, dahling!

Posted by: Billy Crystal at December 27, 2025 08:44 AM (2Ez/1)

53
Said my Rosary while walking The Big Dummy up and down the driveway, since he can't figure a treadmill out. So, a productive 20 minutes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 08:46 AM (tgvbd)

54 "Every comedy begins with a funeral and ends with a wedding."

Posted by: no one at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (qFwJc)

55 Only time NJ looks as good as the other 49 states is when it is covered in snow.

Posted by: Native New Yawker at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (oftw2)

56 Ah yes. Dave Barry.
boom goes the boomer
good morning! praying for all

I remember when that shithead wrote for The Miami Herald. He wasn't funny then and not funny now. Used to get him and that other commie shithead Carl Hiaasen mixed up. Old farts who need to go away already and stop bothering folks.

Posted by: Leisureville Is The Place To BE at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (R/m4+)

57 Dave Barry hasn’t been really funny in a long time.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (77rzZ)

58
Got about an inch of sleet last night. Made everything look sort of Christmasey.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 27, 2025 08:42 AM (31p00)

Every Christmastime commercial has to have at least six inches of snow on the ground.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 08:48 AM (tgvbd)

59 I never cared for Dave Barry.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:48 AM (muXU/)

60 Kinda for 'm' if he's still reading here:

Okay, driveway cleared. Was about 5 to 6 inches of snow, which isn't as bad as we've seen in past (1.5 to 2 feet in a night).

However, forecast is now calling for 1/2 inch of freezing rain Sunday night and into Monday morning. Joy.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 27, 2025 08:48 AM (O7YUW)

61
Old farts who need to go away already and stop bothering folks.
Posted by: Leisureville Is The Place To BE at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (R/m4+)

*waves cane angrily*
*sits down exhausted*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 08:49 AM (tgvbd)

62 Happy Toyotathon!

Posted by: Your television, if you still watch it at December 27, 2025 08:49 AM (2Ez/1)

63 Used to get him and that other commie shithead Carl Hiaasen mixed up. Old farts who need to go away already and stop bothering folks.
Posted by: Leisureville Is The Place To BE at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (R/m4+)
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Well, Hiassen moved up to Zero Beach so you got your wish. He gone.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:49 AM (JhljX)

64
I never cared for Dave Barry.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:48 AM (muXU/)

Dave Barry is the Art Buchwald of Erma Bombecks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 08:50 AM (tgvbd)

65 Morning, caffeinators,

I'm shaved and showered, fed, and have slopped the feline hogs. Time for a last small cup of Cafe El Morro before I get dressed. Miss Linda wants to go to World Market and to Bath & Body Works this morning. Normally I'd say, "No way I am going in a mall on the Saturday after Xmas." But . . . this particular mall was not even crowded on the Monday *before* 12/25.

I have other errands which can be fitted in around all that, so it's good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 08:50 AM (wzUl9)

66 Isaiah 6:8

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (muXU/)

67 Prayers for those on the Prayer List and for those unasked but needed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (wVcYX)

68 What's a mall?

Posted by: Most young people at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (2Ez/1)

69 12/26 very sad update from Schnorflepuppy - his wife got progressively worse on Christmas Day, and passed away on 12/26.

Posted by: AnniesStew at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (VEsJT)

70 I went to IHOP a few weeks ago for the first time in a few years. They are still as good as I remember.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 27, 2025 08:52 AM (0U5gm)

71 Speaking of gas prices: The lowest I've seen here, though not near me, is $2.10 for regular 87 E10. Generally they seem to want $2.29-2.75 for 87 on my side of the river. However, yesterday I spotted a nearby convenience store station w/ non-ethanol 90, at $2.99 -- the same price I've been paying at a similar store some miles away in the suburbs. Quick as a bunny I nipped in and filled up.

The Buick does not need premium or even mid-grade, so the extra octane is unnecessary. But it does get better mileage on the E0. Not *quite* enough to pay for the difference, but, hey, I like doing it and seeing the higher numbers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 08:54 AM (wzUl9)

72 The last Father Knows Best reunion movie was Christmas themed. In the final scene, Jim and Margaret are leaving the Anderson homestead in a GMC motorhome, 1977 vintage. The street and yards were covered in "snow". It was some kind of soap foam, but looked pretty.

Posted by: Home For Christmas at December 27, 2025 08:54 AM (oftw2)

73 However, forecast is now calling for 1/2 inch of freezing rain Sunday night and into Monday morning. Joy.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
___________

The wife has been on me to invest in a Generac for just such an emergency. We lost power for 8 days in an ice storm about 20 years ago, but I just can't see shelling out 10 or 15K.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 27, 2025 08:54 AM (XvL8K)

74
Condolences to Schnorf. How awful.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 08:54 AM (tgvbd)

75 What's a mall?
Posted by: Most young people at December 27, 2025

***
Something great you missed out on. Go play in the street, why don'tcha?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 08:54 AM (wzUl9)

76 Midwest chick linkypoo.

https://tinyurl.com/4khkkerd
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Linkypoo Maven at December 27, 2025 08:36 AM (4y9Oc)

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I loved this one: "So you're telling me that the man who got 81 million votes is struggling to raise money for his library"

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 08:55 AM (7cpPc)

77 Praise hashem the true judge. What very sad news.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 08:55 AM (A0sqA)

78 69 12/26 very sad update from Schnorflepuppy - his wife got progressively worse on Christmas Day, and passed away on 12/26.

oh that is terrible

I'd like to request prayers for my Navy Veteran uncle, who unbeknownst to me (no one wanted to bug us on vacation) has been struggling with his health the past few weeks. undetermined cause but recurrent infection/sepsis that keeps sending him back to the hospital. he's having a very rough Christmas. his inflammatory state seems to be worsening his dementia too, which makes him a lot harder to handle for my aunt and family.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 27, 2025 08:55 AM (emBoF)

79 PDJT says he is sorry Bill Clinton and Larry Summers have figured so prominently in the Epstein photos. He blames Massie.

https://tinyurl.com/5vhbw8bc

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 08:55 AM (vbMG5)

80 Only time NJ looks as good as the other 49 states is when it is covered in snow.
Posted by: Native New Yawker at December 27, 2025

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Lousy-ana doesn't even have that excuse most of the time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 08:56 AM (wzUl9)

81 Dave Barry is the Art Buchwald of Erma Bombecks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Oh, yeah! I hope the grass is not greener over your septic tank!

Posted by: Erma Bombeck at December 27, 2025 08:56 AM (oftw2)

82 Happy Toyotathon!
Posted by: Your television, if you still watch it at December 27, 2025

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Jan: pretty, but not hot? Discuss.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 08:57 AM (wzUl9)

83 Thoughts and prayers to Schnorflepuppy.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:58 AM (muXU/)

84 So, Rand Paul wants all of us to work to 70 before we draw Social Security but Congress can draw lifetime pensions and full medical after 5 years for working 9 months out of a year.
Did I get that right?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 08:59 AM (U5+2P)

85 My favorite was when the Didn’t Earn It hog just rolled her eyes when asked about her ability to perform a rescue. “He got himself in the wrong situation”.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 27, 2025 08:59 AM (fS43b)

86 This five minute video is cute:

https://youtu.be/CT_O2X7CEeo

Posted by: The Night Trump Saved Christmas at December 27, 2025 08:59 AM (2Ez/1)

87 69 12/26 very sad update from Schnorflepuppy - his wife got progressively worse on Christmas Day, and passed away on 12/26.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (VEsJT)

Oh, no. Thank you for letting us know.

Schnorflepuppy, so very sorry. May she rest easy and painlessly in the Lord's arms.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 27, 2025 08:59 AM (h7ZuX)

88 Biff - if you decide to get a whole-home generator, take a look at Kohler. My father is a contractor and he did a lot of research before going with them over Generac. I have neither myself, but he lives in a rural area and it's not uncommon to be without power for a few days in the winter.

Posted by: PabloD at December 27, 2025 09:00 AM (+7Ki/)

89 Just checked the calendar. Will Amazon deliver the three French hens or do they just show up on their own?

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 27, 2025 09:00 AM (31p00)

90 A long time ago, Dave Barry was indeed funny. I recall one of his columns where he suggested that people would actually be willing to compete in a TV game show called "Eat Bugs for Money." The illustration of someone holding a spider up, ready to chow down, was even funnier.

Also, one of his Major Life Tips: "Do not take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night. Ask me how I know."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 09:00 AM (wzUl9)

91 Dear Schnorflepuppy, I'm so sorry. Sending hugs and prayers.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 27, 2025 09:01 AM (iMJgc)

92 I expect FDNY will be ok - at least in the near-to-medium term. Enough years with incompetent communist dykes in charge will wreck anything, but it's currently a highly professional organization that will continue to fight fires even if the boss is busy munching rugs and beating up her paramours.

More importantly, there's no such thing as a Muslim or illegal alien fire, and there are basically no all-white NYC neighborhoods they can let burn down 4MuhJusticez. It's much harder to politicize firefighting than policing.

NYPD is where things are going to immediately go sour. Muslims and Aztecs, etc. just got a platinum get out of jail free card for the next 4 years, and they'll use it enthusiastically.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:01 AM (BI5O2)

93 Toyota Jan is quite pretty, but she is aging out. About 7 years ago, she was obviously preggo, but Toyota deigned to hide it behind cars and beach balls, etc. I think she's cute.

Posted by: Arbiter of Beauty And Taste! at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (oftw2)

94 14 Is COVID still a thing?

I still see covidiots driving around in their cars all by themselves with face diapers on.

A whole lot of mush-headed sheeple were permanently damaged. They're never coming back.

Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (xNHSX)

95 741 moves
Spider solitaire is evil

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (Ia/+0)

96 but I just can't see shelling out 10 or 15K.
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Split the difference, Honda makes some nice quiet generators that don’t take up much room for far less than that. Even the small suitcase generators are a godsend in a utility power breakdown.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (fS43b)

97 I just got here, so I don't know if anyone commented on this, but that "eet ze bugz" company that Pixy had a link about had a shirt logo saying "Ynsect we trust."

Way to stick your thumb in the eye of humanity and of God Himself, you insect farmers! And you thought you could succeed with that philosophy?

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 27, 2025 09:03 AM (FMtrg)

98 But 1 Diversity hire who can bring in more Diversity hires is like a cancer.

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)

99 94 14 Is COVID still a thing?

I still see covidiots driving around in their cars all by themselves with face diapers on.

A whole lot of mush-headed sheeple were permanently damaged. They're never coming back.

Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (xNHSX)

They are broken.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 27, 2025 09:04 AM (w6EFb)

100 You can now change that stupid email address

In a long-requested change, account holders can now replace their existing @gmail.com address with a new one while retaining all data and services, according to an update to Google’s account help page.

Posted by: Cali Fire Chief at December 27, 2025 09:05 AM (gbOdA)

101 off sox

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:05 AM (gbOdA)

102 How long until before Pat The Fire Broad gets arrested for domestic violence? 6 months opens at 3:2. Place your bets here!

Posted by: Las Vegas, Where Dreams Go To Die at December 27, 2025 09:06 AM (R/m4+)

103 Is COVID still a thing?

I still see covidiots driving around in their cars all by themselves with face diapers on.

A whole lot of mush-headed sheeple were permanently damaged. They're never coming back.
Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025

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Hard to believe . . . but the dermatologist I saw this past week wore a face diaper during my appointment! A dermatologist! Somehow my confidence in him is . . . lessened, to say the least. I wanted to say, "You can take that thing off, you know," but didn't

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 09:06 AM (wzUl9)

104 Toyota Jan is hot AF!

Posted by: Federal Prisoner #17816 at December 27, 2025 09:06 AM (Y1sOo)

105 The wife has been on me to invest in a Generac for just such an emergency. We lost power for 8 days in an ice storm about 20 years ago, but I just can't see shelling out 10 or 15K.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

I got a 4000 watt portable generator, and put in a split circuit so I can run the furnace, the kitchen, the living room and MBR. Much less than a Generac.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 27, 2025 09:06 AM (0U5gm)

106
Honda makes some nice quiet generators that don’t take up much room for far less than that. Even the small suitcase generators are a godsend in a utility power breakdown.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 27, 2025 09:02 AM (fS43b)

We have two 8900 watt generators, a 3500 and a 1200. Also a transfer panel so that we can run at least the refrigerator, well, septic and AC or furnace. We've had recourse to use them and it works.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 09:07 AM (tgvbd)

107 Is covid still a thing. well, yes

so over the holidays (again, I was on the beach for most of this!) a few family members got it, and got it BAD. they are ALL fully shotted-up types (of various ages). it put a big wrench in the festivities for some, some even ended up visiting the hospital.

amazing! so yeah if you're super into getting the latest and greatest mRNA in your bod, you might get hit with the new strains harder. not a sniffle, even if you're a young person.

weird, that.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 27, 2025 09:07 AM (emBoF)

108 89 Just checked the calendar. Will Amazon deliver the three French hens or do they just show up on their own?
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 27, 2025 09:00 AM (31p00)

I just got 3 French Horns form TEMU.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:08 AM (gbOdA)

109 > but I just can't see shelling out 10 or 15K.
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Split the difference, Honda makes some nice quiet generators that don’t take up much room for far less than that. Even the small suitcase generators are a godsend in a utility power breakdown.
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I bought a Predator brand at Harbor Freight a couple months ago. It's a Chinese knock-off of a Honda. 5000w inverter type with remote start and duel fuel (gas or propane.) Less than $1K. Will run most anything I'd plug into it. Thinking about having a transfer switch and panel put in so I don't have to run extension cords. But that alone will probably cost more than the generator.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 09:08 AM (NwnyJ)

110 79 PDJT says he is sorry Bill Clinton and Larry Summers have figured so prominently in the Epstein photos. He blames Massie.

https://tinyurl.com/5vhbw8bc
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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He weaves through a lot of information - I like Clinton - He's a big boy he can handle it - there's a lot of innocent people in those pictures - But MASSIE [Massie's a pos]

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:08 AM (U5+2P)

111 An inverter portable generator has met all our needs here on the NC Coast through a bunch of storms/hurricanes. Enough to run the fridge, room air conditioner, lights, 2 burner electric range, charge your devices, etc. Need extension cords, of course, but it's a cheap way not to suffer when things go south.

Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 27, 2025 09:09 AM (oftw2)

112
Thinking about having a transfer switch and panel put in so I don't have to run extension cords. But that alone will probably cost more than the generator.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 09:08 AM (NwnyJ)

We had one put in for about $2500.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 09:09 AM (tgvbd)

113 Where I live now, it's extremely rare to see a masked up dumdum. Whenever I have to travel back to Denver for work, I always see them bopping around and laugh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:09 AM (BI5O2)

114 I spent a long time trying to figure out who was to blame: the media and politicians who broke the covidiots, or the covidiots for so quickly and willingly allowing themselves to be broken.

With the passage of years I've decided the answer is: It can be both things.

Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025 09:09 AM (xNHSX)

115 So, Rand Paul wants all of us to work to 70 before we draw Social Security but Congress can draw lifetime pensions and full medical after 5 years for working 9 months out of a year.
Did I get that right?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025

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I just downloaded my 1099 from SS. Pretty much what I figured. My three months' salary this past year on top of that, plus my IRA distributions, is going to make things interesting when I file. (Actually it does not look bad considering the new deduction Trump has pushed through, and the estimated tax payments I've made too.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 09:10 AM (wzUl9)

116 I enjoyed the Dave Barry of old, meaning in the 1990s. I haven't read him since.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 09:10 AM (QFM/y)

117 Yes, I'll have to see about a generator once I buy my house. Good to know there are options that do not cost as much as a used car ought to cost.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 09:12 AM (wzUl9)

118 Lot of Chinese people here donned masks in winter routinely before the covids so it was present, but I would estimate I see about x2 the number of mask-wearers now, not just Chinese. I see a lot of people don them when they get on the muni. All I can think of is how dirty those things must be.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 09:13 AM (A0sqA)

119 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (bQ4nt)

120 =========
I bought a Predator brand at Harbor Freight a couple months ago. It's a Chinese knock-off of a Honda. 5000w inverter type with remote start and duel fuel (gas or propane.) Less than $1K. Will run most anything I'd plug into it. Thinking about having a transfer switch and panel put in so I don't have to run extension cords. But that alone will probably cost more than the generator.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Glad to hear a first hand on the Preditor.
I've got a Honda but it's a pull start. The 220v socket I plugged a heavy cord into but built a box making it two 120v standard house receptacles.

Yeah I'm on extension cords. It's used so little it's not worth the money to have it hooked into the house. Buy another toy with that money. Or some more Red Wire.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (U5+2P)

121 Dave Barry jumped the shark when he moved to Miami IMO. Been coasting for a hell of a long time.

I was a big fan in my teens, till one day while reading one of his books (I had all his compilations of columns) I realized I had read a particular joke before in another column. Once I saw that first one I couldn't stop seeing it. He did it over and over. He just plagiarized himself endlessly, sometimes rewriting the same jokes, sometimes just reusing them pretty much word for word. That realization was the end of my fandom.

Dude's been resting on his laurels for so long, those laurels are smooshed.

Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (xNHSX)

122 Good morning to everyone, and prayers up for all. Got a couple of inches of the white stuff, probably light as it's 20° out there.
I will test that theory after a couple of cups of coffee.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (sl73Y)

123 I recall Dave Barry's "squirrels are terrorists!" phase, which (after fighting for weeks to get them out of my attic) I rate "funny AND accurate".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (MHixg)

124 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)

125 >>> I see a lot of people don them when they get on the muni. All I can think of is how dirty those things must be.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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A brain badge.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:17 AM (U5+2P)

126 >>>I got a 4000 watt portable generator, and put in a split circuit so I can run the furnace, the kitchen, the living room and MBR. Much less than a Generac.
Posted by: Thomas Pain
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Have you tried it? Don't think you can run all that on 4K.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:20 AM (U5+2P)

127 *sigh*

I love my cats, but I really don't need an audience while I eat my meals...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 27, 2025 09:21 AM (ESVrU)

128 124 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Amen

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:21 AM (U5+2P)

129 I tried to start a generator business last year.
Sold about 15.
It is just about impossible to make any money on a 22kw to 24kw unit when you do it right.
Some cities require 3 permits; construction, elec, and plumbing.
And I could never get my subs to listen to me (and these are people I have know for years) to send me their permit apps so they could be submitted as a single project.
And then there was this one I have to build to 100 Year Flood Plan so it sit 7 feet above ground.
I maybe made $1000 bux on each when all told.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:22 AM (gbOdA)

130 Only time NJ looks as good as the other 49 states is when it is covered in snow.
Posted by: Native New Yawker at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (oftw2)

Noo Yawk never looks good.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 27, 2025 09:22 AM (5xuJ/)

131 Have you tried it? Don't think you can run all that on 4K.

Posted by: Braenyard

I misremembered, just looked and it is 9000 watts. I ran it for a few hours last year when someone took out a power pole with their vehicle, and it worked.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 27, 2025 09:22 AM (0U5gm)

132 Somali man who was part of an Islamic terrorist group sentenced for planning 9/11 style attack at Atlanta high rise:

https://tinyurl.com/yhdm9mtm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 09:22 AM (rZCVI)

133 We have a bunch of Predators for work. They work in a pinch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 27, 2025 09:23 AM (ot2L7)

134 We'd often lose power to our home.

Thunderstorm? Lose power.
Heavy rain? Lose power.
High winds? Lose power.

Not always, but often.

Wife ran her CPA business out of our home and needed connectivity, so we bit the bullet and had the Generac installed.

That was three years ago.

Guess what has NOT happened since the installation?

(Turned out, the local electrical transfer station or whatever it's called that fed our home was badly in need of overhaul, which they were doing at the time of our generator install and we didn't know it).

Posted by: one hour sober at December 27, 2025 09:23 AM (Y1sOo)

135 Schnorflepuppy, condolences and prayers for you and your wife.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:24 AM (U5+2P)

136 I can think of is how dirty those things must be.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 09:13 AM (A0sqA)

A doc in FLA grabbed a stack of mask from a local high school trach can.
It was everything from plague to piss to pizza.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:24 AM (gbOdA)

137 I got a 4000 watt portable generator, and put in a split circuit so I can run the furnace, the kitchen, the living room and MBR. Much less than a Generac.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 27, 2025 09:06 AM (0U5gm)

I have an 8KW portable generator in the same config. I have the well pump on the circuit as well.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 27, 2025 09:25 AM (5xuJ/)

138 115 So, Rand Paul wants all of us to work to 70 before we draw Social Security but Congress can draw lifetime pensions and full medical after 5 years for working 9 months out of a year.
Did I get that right?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025

I can’t touch it til 67 so what’s three more years?

The whole bit about Reps and Sens drawing full lifetime pensions after 5 years, though, has long pissed me off. Screw term limits, why not end BS like that? Make holding office such that they are begging to get back in the private sector after a short time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 09:25 AM (muXU/)

139 Even the Somali woman next to the MN Lieutenant Governor looks like she thinks the l woman is a joke for putting on a hijab when she isn't Muslim:

https://tinyurl.com/mt7w8hbm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 09:26 AM (rZCVI)

140 Dude's been resting on his laurels for so long, those laurels are smooshed.
Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025 09:14 AM (xNHSX)
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The Boomer comedian thing is sad to see. They thought of themselves as cool, hip, edgy, but never really left their safe little box and now they're even crankier than the worst WW II vet they used to mock for being "square."

Dave Barry's history satire, Dave Barry Slept Here, came out when I was in high school and *everybody* read it. It circulated throughout the school, and teachers riffed on it. It was downright laugh riot hilarious, and my daughter read it when she was in high school and loved it. Quite clever stuff.

But at some point, (as I think Lorraine Newman said) avant garde just becomes garde, and that's why self-proclaimed Republican Party Reptile P.J. O'Rourke regressed being Grandpa Simpson whining about Trump and advocating Hillary Clinton as the "sensible choice."

Jonah Goldberg is a Gen X Boomer, btw. The other day I came across Bob Seeger's "Beautiful Loser" and it describes him perfectly: a young man who thinks like an old man.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:26 AM (ZOv7s)

141 The whole bit about Reps and Sens drawing full lifetime pensions after 5 years, though, has long pissed me off. Screw term limits, why not end BS like that? Make holding office such that they are begging to get back in the private sector after a short time.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 09:25 AM (muXU/)
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This is because of all the earnings they lose while in Congress. It's not like they can become millionaires in a single term. Oh, wait...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:27 AM (ZOv7s)

142 (Turned out, the local electrical transfer station or whatever it's called that fed our home was badly in need of overhaul, which they were doing at the time of our generator install and we didn't know it).
Posted by: one hour sober
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Ain't it the truth?
Buddy is on the same feed as the Sheriff's Department. Yeah, his goes down last and it first up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:28 AM (U5+2P)

143 We have a Generac that we installed in October and have used it twice since then. Power was out last week for 60+ hours. It pretty much ran the entire house with the heat at 65 and not using the electric ovens. Unlike our former set up in a blue shit hole town we do not have two panels that control what is allowed to run. If we have power to run the well, heat and lights we're happy.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 27, 2025 09:30 AM (2NHgQ)

144 Even the Somali woman next to the MN Lieutenant Governor looks like she thinks the l woman is a joke
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Bill Maher: "Anyone who thinks you are a social activist and your number one issue isn't gender apartheid in the Muslim world: You are a joke."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 09:30 AM (s1IWd)

145 (Turned out, the local electrical transfer station or whatever it's called that fed our home was badly in need of overhaul, which they were doing at the time of our generator install and we didn't know it).
Posted by: one hour sober at December 27, 2025 09:23 AM (Y1sOo)
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After the Great Ice Storm where we lost power for a week despite being practically in line of sight to the power plant, a major infrastructure overhaul took place. It's still good to have a generator, as we went without power for 18 hours over the summer. Mine is a little one, 4k, just enough to cycle the fridge and chest freezer and keep the furnace going if it is cold. No fancy switch, I just ran two boxes in from its shelter, one in the kitchen, one in the utility room.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)

146 Kash Patel announces permanent closure of J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building for Reagan building move

I hear that last party will be a crossdressing ball.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:31 AM (gbOdA)

147 Schnorflepuppy my condolences

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 27, 2025 09:31 AM (2NHgQ)

148 113 Where I live now, it's extremely rare to see a masked up dumdum. Whenever I have to travel back to Denver for work, I always see them bopping around and laugh.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:09 AM (BI5O2)

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Early in the COVID scare, I saw a young mom pushing her baby in a shopping cart. Only ones without a mask. Inwardly, I cheered.

I wore the face diaper only because I figured, your store, your rules.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 09:32 AM (e1HT8)

149 Dave Barry is an insane leftist. Every paragraph he wrote always ended with "all caused by George Bush..." His BDS / TDS goes way back.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at December 27, 2025 09:32 AM (aKh6S)

150
We also have the RV, which has a 4000 watt generator we can slave off.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 09:33 AM (tgvbd)

151 We've lost power here about 3-4 times. The two times we lost it during the winter it was out for a couple days... powerlines were down in multiple spots due to icing.

I don't mind the extension cords for a day or two for the Internet, lights, a TV and to run the toaster oven or an electric skillet to cook on. Or, if it's not too bad, I'll use the gas grill.

A kerosene heater works wonders, but has to be shut off at night and we still crack a door or window when running it during the day. It's floor fans during summer.

Again, for a day or two, this is fine. If we're talking about a week or more... that's when we look at a motel or think about heading to our other place in WV. Assuming travel is possible.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 09:33 AM (NwnyJ)

152 How about this? These people don't get to have any investments while in Congress. You get audited every year and everything better match up to your salary and expenses, or you're off to the hoosegow for a 20yr stint. Family members, too.

And no pension. Pinch those taxpayer pennies, gentleman... you'll need 'em later.

You all say you're motivated by public service. So serve.

I'd also be fine with sumptuary laws saying that elected officials must wear dunce caps and hair shirts and underwear made of thorns, but you can't have it all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:33 AM (BI5O2)

153 12/26 very sad update from Schnorflepuppy - his wife got progressively worse on Christmas Day, and passed away on 12/26.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (VEsJT)

May she rest in peace, her suffering and tears wiped away in God's presence and may He comfort Schnorflepuppy in his grief.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 27, 2025 09:34 AM (wVcYX)

154 If the measure gains enough signatures to reach the state ballot in November and wins approval, it will retroactively apply to anyone who lived in California as of Jan. 1, 2026. Those with $20 billion in assets who resided in the state on that date would face a one-time tax of $1 billion and have five years to pay it, according to the terms of the measure.

It will be $2 Million in about 7 years.

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:34 AM (gbOdA)

155 @140 A.H. , it was sad to see O'Rourke become a squish. Maybe his cancer and mortality changed him. Give War a Chance was a hoot and very educational about why things fall apart.
Calling the stuff that is fed to people in refugee camps "Purina Famine Chow" was spot on for a lot of reasons

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 27, 2025 09:35 AM (2vrAX)

156
Again, for a day or two, this is fine. If we're talking about a week or more... that's when we look at a motel or think about heading to our other place in WV. Assuming travel is possible.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 09:33 AM (NwnyJ)

After Beryl, we were out for five and a half days. The dogs had been brought up to the house and, between and among the various generators, we managed well enough.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 27, 2025 09:36 AM (tgvbd)

157 Posted by: Count de Monet at December 27, 2025 09:34 AM (wVcYX)

Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 09:36 AM (PFs9e)

158 Merry Christmas ya filthy animals and MisHum!!
''Tis the season to eat lots and lots of cookies!!

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at December 27, 2025 09:36 AM (t0Out)

159 in both cases (Barry and O'Rourke) the change was due to ditching first wife and marrying woke young wife

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 27, 2025 09:36 AM (emBoF)

160 Bill Maher: "Anyone who thinks you are a social activist and your number one issue isn't gender apartheid in the Muslim world: You are a joke."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 09:30 AM (s1IWd)
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Never hear about female genital mutilation anymore.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (A0sqA)

161 43 Powerline linkypoo.

https://tinyurl.com/4buf2t6b

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That screaming woman in the green shirt in 2017 had no idea still be a meme in 2025... and beyond

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (PU21p)

162 JB Pritzker Promises Democrats Will Hold ICE Agents Accountable
Illinois Governor JB Pritzker vows that when Democrats win, ICE agents will be held accountable for their actions. The statement underscores the party’s focus on immigration reform and protecting human rights.

Is this the (D) 26 campaign? Just plain old revenge!

Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (gbOdA)

163 We lost power for 40 hours last weekend. First night was fun. Second night not so much. Every two hours PG&E said the power was coming on in two hours like they were United Airlines.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 09:41 AM (A0sqA)

164 Is this the (D) 26 campaign? Just plain old revenge!
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (gbOdA)
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Since the theme of the Biden Residency was "vengeance!", it is a good bet "revenge" is going to be big in their next campaign.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 09:41 AM (+zBf9)

165 I wore the face diaper only because I figured, your store, your rules.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 09:32 AM (e1HT

I did not when I was in stupid Denver, and never got thrown out of a store, though I'd have been ok with it if I had. All the static I got was from Karen, and I had a lot of fun with her.

The one place they had me over a barrel was in the Children's Hospital, where they had checkpoints at the doors. I couldn't risk being thrown out there.

But even there, I'd just take it off once past the checkpoint, and never got called out by nurses or anything because it's a hospital for kids who can't get a serious case of Covid, and mine wasn't on a ward for people with respiratory problems.

With all the hysteria, I was surprised at how little pushback I actually got. I think everyone but Karen knew it was dumb and had zero commitment to the big lie.

And, of course, it was always nice encountering the other maskless bandits. The knowing glance and smile, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:41 AM (BI5O2)

166 Schnorflepuppy,
Deepest condolences. May God's grace shine upon you and grant you peace.🙏

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 27, 2025 09:41 AM (VCgbV)

167 Good morning MisHum, Horde

Day 3 of the 12 days of Christmas

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 27, 2025 09:42 AM (AXupt)

168 in both cases (Barry and O'Rourke) the change was due to ditching first wife and marrying woke young wife
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 27, 2025 09:36 AM (emBoF)
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That right there is the epitome of BoomerCon failure. They were willing to sell out "social issues" in favor of lower taxes and a strong military. Guess what? If you give up social issues, you end up losing everything else.

But for a while, it was great. You could buy that summer home or winter cottage, dump your wife and upgrade to a younger, hotter model, discretely do drugs from time to time, and still wave the flag and salute "our veterans" whose company you conspicuously never joined, and who became progressively more demoralized as the military was made gay and girlish.

The social conservatives were stuck with nowhere else to go, and liars like the Bush family kept selling them a bill of goods about being pro-life, Evangelical, and supporting the 2A and doing absolutely jack shit about it.

And then Trump came along, and while he believed in none of those things, he was all about making deals, and if you want deals to stick, and keep making deals, YOU KEEP YOUR WORD. And that's what he did.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:42 AM (ZOv7s)

169 Schnorflepuppy, my sincere condolences on your loss. My prayers and thoughts are with you and your family.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 27, 2025 09:43 AM (OF02a)

170 My neighbor's kid is a Generac installer/service tech. So neighbor has a Generac and "free" labor on maintenance and repairs. During power outages, neighbor generously lets me run the yardwork outdoor extension cord from his back patio outlet to my fridge.

Am thinking about getting one of those solar inverter battery power contraptions - but it's more like looking through the Sears Christmas Wish Book at this point than any serious consideration.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 27, 2025 09:43 AM (wVcYX)

171 >>How about this? These people don't get to have any investments while in Congress. You get audited every year and everything better match up to your salary and expenses, or you're off to the hoosegow for a 20yr stint. Family members, too.

And no pension. Pinch those taxpayer pennies, gentleman... you'll need 'em later.

You all say you're motivated by public service. So serve.

OR...and just hear me out here:
You can invest in anything you want while 'Serving'.

But, the Tax on your Gains will be 101%.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2025 09:45 AM (grNgC)

172 I've talked about this for a while, but for Christmas I got my wife the Ignatius Press Study Bible in the standard hardcover (the leather was just too rich for my taste).

She was thrilled when she opened it, like a kid getting a long-anticipated toy. It is a beautiful presentation, and if I can pry it away from her, look forward to checking out its copious notes and commentary.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:45 AM (ZOv7s)

173 Since the theme of the Biden Residency was "vengeance!", it is a good bet "revenge" is going to be big in their next campaign.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 09:41 AM (+zBf9)
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The message was incoherent. The Dems said Trump wanted revenge, while they would unify the country, and then they would list all the people they would punish.

Honest voter rolls will turn this country deep red.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:47 AM (ZOv7s)

174 Actually, scratch that. 401(k)s and IRAs should be allowed for public servants, but nothing else.

If they're forced into the same instruments as the hated subject classes, they might finally be motivated to start thinking about working for the common good of their constituents.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:50 AM (BI5O2)

175 'Bout time for me to start on my errands. I'll be back for the Pet Thread!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 27, 2025 09:51 AM (wzUl9)

176 >>>---
That right there is the epitome of BoomerCon failure. They were willing to sell out "social issues" in favor of lower taxes and a strong military. Guess what? If you give up social issues, you end up losing everything else.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Your willingness to divide people using a communist, adman's contrivance is unbecoming.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:52 AM (U5+2P)

177 23 While out and about on Christmas Eve, I ran into something truly awful - a funeral procession.

I can’t imagine there being a funeral then. Of course, death is terrible at any time but especially around Christmas.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 08:20 AM (muXU/)

I hope they didn’t put a little Santa hat on the coffin. Or on the pallbearers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 09:53 AM (Ku1ge)

178 I am not as kind, YD...

Maybe, if they had to choose between Investing while 'serving' or receiving a pension?

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2025 09:53 AM (grNgC)

179 I wore the face diaper only because I figured, your store, your rules.
Posted by: JM in Illinois

I saw a commentator mildly recommend the movie Eddington because it shows the insanity of the right during the pandemic. I watched a few minutes and, so far, it's about forcing people to mask up. That wasn't the right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 27, 2025 09:53 AM (L/fGl)

180 Yes if the Marxists get back in power, it will turn into opening the Gulags

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 09:53 AM (Ia/+0)

181 12/26 very sad update from Schnorflepuppy - his wife got progressively worse on Christmas Day, and passed away on 12/26.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 27, 2025 08:51 AM (VEsJT)
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Please accept my condolences.

Yesterday, my wife and I made a pilgrimage to the diocesan Cathedral as part of the Jubilee Year. We said the Rosary, prayed the Pope's intentions and completed the requirements for an indulgence and I included the Horde in my prayer intentions. (It would be hilarious if those were ever read aloud - "We pray also for the Moron Horde, in all their travails and difficulties.")

On the way out, a women I've never met before asked if I was in the military (I wear my field jacket) and I said I used to be, so she blessed me as well.

God be with all of you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

182 174 Actually, scratch that. 401(k)s and IRAs should be allowed for public servants, but nothing else.

If they're forced into the same instruments as the hated subject classes, they might finally be motivated to start thinking about working for the common good of their constituents.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Political office holder's and the public should be allowed the same benefits. Either way, no more no less. Burn their purple robes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:55 AM (U5+2P)

183 The Left have more projection than Pavarotti singing at the Grand Canyon with a loud speaker.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 09:55 AM (KDPiq)

184 Good morning, best wishes and prayers up for all! I've been mostly out this past week, daughter number 3 (child 4) has been visiting me in Philly for Christmas- she just successfully finished her first semester of law school at Bama. We're going to see the Nutcracker today, went to Manhattan on Christmas day, lots of Philly sites over the course of the visit. It's been a wonderful blessing to have her here (and she's hoping for an internship here this summer as well). Number 5 is coming next week! Hope everyone's holiday has been as merry as mine.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 27, 2025 09:55 AM (IX8iX)

185
With all the hysteria, I was surprised at how little pushback I actually got. I think everyone but Karen knew it was dumb and had zero commitment to the big lie.

Back in the day where mega large corporate GSOCs were depending on me providing real C19 data, data collection was everything, from quantity and quality.

It was interesting, the "quality" of data generally came from universities using volunteer labor - labor where they were totally in on the Wuhan Death Miasma. The problem is the data was notoriously biased - but it was predictably biased and I knew the weaknesses and could account for them.

The most lackadaisical data came from hospitals where they assigned data aggregation and communication tasks w/r/t C19 to interns and candystripers. Turning the lights off in an empty room ranked a higher priority than providing mandated C19 related data.

So yeah, the smooth brains in academia definitely had a different return on data than those whose whole business is avoiding malpractice lawsuits while scraping as much third party money as possible.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 27, 2025 09:56 AM (a4flb)

186 Schnorflepuppy, I'm so sorry for your loss. Praying for you and your family. May her memory be eternal.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2025 09:57 AM (Wnv9h)

187 A funeral home near me decorates the building for Christmas. Outlines all the roof lines with white lights. Wreaths and red ribbons on the windows.

Yeah...no.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 09:58 AM (2Ez/1)

188 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:52 AM (U5+2P)

What he said is factual except it includes all generations whatever they're named.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 09:58 AM (KDPiq)

189 Never hear about female genital mutilation anymore.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (A0sqA)

Because the Left generally, and Democrats specifically are in full alliance with Islam now, and Islam is clearly the dominant partner.

Someday someone on the left will look back and wonder how they could have gone so insane as to have gambled their entire parties future on Islamic terrorists, drug dealers, and illegal aliens.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:00 AM (Ku1ge)

190 Your willingness to divide people using a communist, adman's contrivance is unbecoming.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 09:52 AM (U5+2P)
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Stop it. Please. We use shorthand terms to describe the philosophies of various demographics, and BoomerCon describes exactly the unique confluence of "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" that emerged in the 1980s, which is in contrast to Paleoconservatism and Neoconservatism.

Divorce was previously regarded as a grave scandal, as was marital infidelity by society as a whole. What was the the difference between Gary Hart and Bill Clinton? The electorate had changed. A critical mass of voters existed in the 1980s to torpedo Hart's run, but by 1992, those values had shifted to the point that Clinton could obtain a plurality of votes, and that trend has continued.

If we cannot accurately described groups of people, then I guess the whole Somalian discussion must be banned as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)

191 I wore the face diaper only because I figured, your store, your rules.

I went to a high end running shoe store with a specific order for three pairs.

They wouldn't let me in the store without a mask, I then asked if they would grab the three boxes and meet me out on the sidewalk to make the transaction.

They would rather call the police.

So I took my $500 to the internet, got a much better deal and forgot that shoe store ever existed.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 27, 2025 10:00 AM (a4flb)

192 One thing corporations didn't learn during COVID is that Just in Time inventory is a business disaster waiting to happen .

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:00 AM (KDPiq)

193 I'm just impressed that Morgan takes tango lessons.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 27, 2025 10:02 AM (nWPIJ)

194 >> I took my $500 to the internet, got a much better deal and forgot that shoe store ever existed.

I haven't been in my local Record Shop or the cute little stationary store down the street since Covid.

I warned the owners that it would cost them 100% of my business going forward.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2025 10:02 AM (grNgC)

195 187 A funeral home near me decorates the building for Christmas. Outlines all the roof lines with white lights. Wreaths and red ribbons on the windows.

Yeah...no.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 09:58 AM (2Ez/1)

Most groan worthy funeral parlor I’ve ever seen was in Navasota Texas, where one was quite clearly in an old Pizza Hut building.

2 free pizzas with every funeral?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:02 AM (Ku1ge)

196 I just got word that two of the three teachers I had in sixth grade were in a terrible car wreck last night. One dead on scene, the other taken by Life Flight to Louisville Kentucky. A drunk crossed the center line and hit them head on. The one killed is the man who noticed that I needed to wear glasses. One of his sons is a state cop and graduated HS with me.
The other taught in that school when my son was in Jr high school. He worked at the local hardware store when he wasn't working at the school. He was a bit of a hard ass as a teacher.
Since the first time I watched the movie Fatman with Mel Gibson as Santa, I have thought Walton Goggins reminded me of someone. I just realized It was that teacher.
Damn.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 27, 2025 10:03 AM (2J/Lj)

197 Today is the feast day of St. John the Apostle.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:04 AM (ZOv7s)

198 e use shorthand terms to describe the philosophies of various demographics, and BoomerCon describes ...

So Rush Limbaugh was a "BoomerCon."

You are an idiot with an extremely broad brush and a tool that protects the politicians that brought all this shame on to the country.

Do better.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 27, 2025 10:04 AM (a4flb)

199 The bargain used to be that public sector employment was guaranteed, but low wage+high benefits+free pension and private sector was high wage+bonus+ buy your own benefits and retirement.

Somewhere in the last 30 years the bureaucracy has got itself the high wages and bonuses in addition to all the other remuneration the public sector previously enjoyed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:04 AM (A0sqA)

200 One thing that stands out in contrast between *biden's reign and Trump II is the judiciary. The were very compliant for *biden. Not so much with Trump.

The left regains the levers of power and *biden's 4 years will seem down right quaint in comparison.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (NwnyJ)

201 I never wore a mask and the few times I was confronted I said I would comply and get my mask but I just kept shopping.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (KDPiq)

202 I think I averaged somewhere around 5-6k a year spending on LPs in that shop over the previous 10 year period.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (grNgC)

203 The most insane Covid thing: a guy in a grocery store telling me I wasn't following the direction of the arrows on the AISLE FLOOR. I just kept walking.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:06 AM (oweJN)

204 Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:06 AM (oweJN)

The arrow thing was crazy.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:07 AM (KDPiq)

205 The left regains the levers of power and *biden's 4 years will seem down right quaint in comparison.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (NwnyJ)

A new reign of terror. Impossible to overestimate how bad it will be.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (VnsnO)

206 So Rush Limbaugh was a "BoomerCon."

You are an idiot with an extremely broad brush and a tool that protects the politicians that brought all this shame on to the country.

Do better.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 27, 2025 10:04 AM (a4flb)
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Right to the personal attack. Nice.

How was Rush not a BoomerCon? Multiple wives, all about the money. Indeed, he got fat happy and stupid just like the rest. Remember, his first rule his picked up as a shock jock was never to apologize to your enemies.

And yet once he was a made man, he DID apologize in the face of an advertiser boycott over Sandra Fluke.

Like O'Rourke, in his prime he was brilliant, provocative, made great points, but he also fell in line with whatever slop the GOP Establishment dished out.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

207 We use shorthand terms to describe the philosophies of various demographics

I have one for yours. Hope you feel special.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (zdLoL)

208 A new reign of terror. Impossible to overestimate how bad it will be.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (VnsnO)

Red States won't take it lying down .

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:09 AM (KDPiq)

209 We use shorthand terms to describe the philosophies of various demographics, and BoomerCon describes exactly the unique confluence of "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" that emerged in the 1980s

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Candy Owens and Tucker are BatshitCon. Heavy on the Con.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 27, 2025 10:09 AM (L/fGl)

210 Boomer rhymes with groomer.

You think that's a coincidence?!?

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:11 AM (Bs8oy)

211 200 One thing that stands out in contrast between *biden's reign and Trump II is the judiciary. The were very compliant for *biden. Not so much with Trump.

The left regains the levers of power and *biden's 4 years will seem down right quaint in comparison.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (NwnyJ)

It’s exposed a great weakness in our system, we can only hope we collectively have the nerve and confidence to fix it. Ever since FDR we’ve lived and accepted the lie that the Judiciary isn’t political, when in fact it is every bit as political as all the rest, but lies about it constantly. The left has used that lie to their great advantage for 80 years now, andnn be it’s up to us to correct it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:11 AM (Ku1ge)

212 200 One thing that stands out in contrast between *biden's reign and Trump II is the judiciary. The were very compliant for *biden. Not so much with Trump.

The left regains the levers of power and *biden's 4 years will seem down right quaint in comparison.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 10:05 AM (NwnyJ)

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The next time the dems win it all ( white House, senate, and house) they will pack SCOTUS. Then S**** y** John Roberts for enabling all this anarchy

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:11 AM (1SgbD)

213 I have one for yours. Hope you feel special.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (zdLoL)
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We all are part of demographics, and should be able to discuss them rationally. Voting blocs have existed since the foundation of the country, and there are clear lines between age groups just as there are for ethnicity and religion. I'm not sure why people get so worked up over it that they have to throw personal insults.

Show counterexamples if you want to prove me wrong.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)

214 I think I slept 9 hours maybe a bit more last night.
Feel like a slug who needs a nap

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 10:13 AM (Ia/+0)

215 Candy Owens and Tucker are BatshitCon. Heavy on the Con.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 27, 2025 10:09 AM (L/fGl)
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Modern influencers are hard to generalize because they shift ground so radically and so often. I mean, that is really what they have in common: all their principles seem to have an expiration date.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:13 AM (ZOv7s)

216 >>I have one for yours. Hope you feel special.

Generation Whine

Posted by: one hour sober at December 27, 2025 10:14 AM (Y1sOo)

217 Schnorflepuppy,
Peace be with you. I’m so sad.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 27, 2025 10:14 AM (IhIKR)

218 >>Modern influencers are hard to generalize because they shift ground so radically and so often. I mean, that is really what they have in common: all their principles seem to have an expiration date.

Utilitarians have no Principles. Only Tools.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2025 10:14 AM (grNgC)

219 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)

Boomercon is name calling and painting your correct point about the con change toward social liberalism with too broad a brush.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:15 AM (KDPiq)

220 The chafing is unbearable.

But the CIA is not going to use my erection as an antenna relay for their mind-control beams.

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:15 AM (Bs8oy)

221 Boomers elected Reagan and the first Republican House majority in 40 years.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:16 AM (KDPiq)

222 Like O'Rourke, in his prime he was brilliant, provocative, made great points, but he also fell in line with whatever slop the GOP Establishment dished out.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

Oh now you’re in trouble, you blasphemed the Saint.

But I will say that one thing I liked about him was that in his last ten years or so, it was easy to tell that he was reading this site and a couple like it and getting his best lines from it. People would say we were just copying Rush - naaah, we were writing his lines for him. But he had a good delivery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:16 AM (Ku1ge)

223 Lol
Red States will take it on their knees like they always do
Red states are
Poorer
Less educated
Have shorter life spans
Much higher suicide rates
Higher homicide rates
Higher rates of crime

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:17 AM (/NlQo)

224 Red States won't take it lying down .
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:09 AM (KDPiq)
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Yeah, they can do what they want in Washington, but compliance is going to be an obstacle. The right showed a great deal of patience over the Biden years precisely because they figured the system still had a chance to right itself, and that was the correct decision.

But the more lawless the left becomes, the more willing to break laws it declared sacrosanct only a couple of years ago, the more willing to let people die to get what they want, the less patience there will be.

Add to that the inherent accelerationism of the online left and there could well be a kinetic confrontation. That being said, a lot can happen in a short amount of time to completely alter the strategic landscape.

Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean that it won't happen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

225 I want to influence anyone who calls themselves an influencer with an influential boot up their ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:18 AM (Ku1ge)

226 Boomercon is name calling and painting your correct point about the con change toward social liberalism with too broad a brush.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:15 AM (KDPiq)
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How is it pejorative?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

227 ---
Stop it. Please. We use shorthand terms to describe the philosophies of various demographics, and BoomerCon describes exactly the unique confluence of "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" that emerged in the 1980s, which is in contrast to Paleoconservatism and Neoconservatism.
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Yes, stop it, please.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:19 AM (9y1CY)

228 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:17 AM (/NlQo)

You take your meds today? Evil, Sucking Dicks and Stupid is no way to go through life.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:20 AM (KDPiq)

229 But I will say that one thing I liked about him was that in his last ten years or so, it was easy to tell that he was reading this site and a couple like it and getting his best lines from it. People would say we were just copying Rush - naaah, we were writing his lines for him. But he had a good delivery.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:16 AM (Ku1ge)
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I loved Rush in the 1990s, and I still mind myself wondering what he would say about things. At his peak, he was peerless, hilarious and spot on. The fake commercials, the parody songs, the updates - never a dull moment.

But he got comfy, and seemed weirdly obsessed with various enterprises like tea, and books and stuff. He reminded me of Johnny Carson - still great, but the hunger was gone.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)

230 Like O'Rourke, in his prime he was brilliant, provocative, made great points, but he also fell in line with whatever slop the GOP Establishment dished out.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

Correct...Rush was an entertainer first. He never crossed the line to actually get anything done to "change" anything as long as his toast was getting buttered. I enjoyed his show and especially his comedic bits, but he was just another paid clown maintaining the status quo.

Posted by: Bo Snerdley at December 27, 2025 10:21 AM (R/m4+)

231 Modern influencers are hard to generalize because they shift ground so radically and so often. I mean, that is really what they have in common: all their principles seem to have an expiration date.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Like my diets.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 27, 2025 10:21 AM (L/fGl)

232 You were vulnerable to my attack while you walked INTO the Outback Steakhouse, so you needed to wear a mask.

But once you were seated safely in the booth I couldn't hurt you, so you could take it off.

Posted by: COVID 19 at December 27, 2025 10:21 AM (2Ez/1)

233 How is it pejorative?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

You made it so. You didn't write it just as a descriptive . You defined it negatively. And it took away from your greater point in which I agree.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:22 AM (KDPiq)

234 If Congressional investing bothers people then apply the same rules the government forced in me when I worked as a banker in NYC: All trades must be pre-approved and can only be done through the Congressional broker; the compliance people keep a "no trade" list of companies with business before a specific Congressman, and buying/selling in those companies can only occur during specified days of the quarter; and all trades are public knowledge. In the case of Congress, I would say public knowledge in advance of the trade.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 10:22 AM (S729R)

235 Yes, stop it, please.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:19 AM (9y1CY)
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Stop what? Show me where the term is incorrect, or offer another one to describe the politics of O'Rourke and his ilk. He was very much not of the National Review mold.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:22 AM (ZOv7s)

236 I am takkng it Karoline Leavitt is pregnant, good for her but that will be the end of job eventually

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 10:23 AM (Ia/+0)

237 Those damn Libras. I hate those guys. Pussies. Make a fvcking decision for once.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:24 AM (A0sqA)

238 I enjoyed his show and especially his comedic bits, but he was just another paid clown maintaining the status quo.
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Given his cultural impact for change I might rate this the single most bewildering comment I've ever read here.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (S729R)

239 Lay off A.H. Lloyd, everyone. Have we become “No Labels” now? Good grief.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (77rzZ)

240 The Left is furious and dangerous, but the days where they could take over and run things are gone, they’ve hit their limits and are breaking down. Look at the places they run - in the US, California, NY, Illinois, internationally most of the EU and Venezuela - all of them are sliding into full economic collapse, because the systems they espouse have broken down completely.

They can create terror, but they cannot run anything successfully anymore. (And full authoritarian regimes are not counter examples, they are just the only semi viable end state of leftism - and even they are fragile)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (Ku1ge)

241
Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean that it won't happen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

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The left has figured -- correctly, so far -- that the ratchet of power moves only in one direction. But the country seems headed towards a split. The old rules will be tossed out.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (1SgbD)

242 I don't hold any political pundit with great respect . To me they are just another person with an opinion.

Of course there are another class I call thinkers that go beyond just issuing opinions.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (KDPiq)

243 For all the theater they has taken place
For all the cubbies that MAGA had gotten Trump has only detained 1 200th of the undocumented migrants

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (/NlQo)

244 236 I am takkng it Karoline Leavitt is pregnant, good for her but that will be the end of job eventually
Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 10:23 AM (Ia/+0)

Just the end of an entertaining job and the beginning of a truly important one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (Ku1ge)

245 You made it so. You didn't write it just as a descriptive . You defined it negatively. And it took away from your greater point in which I agree.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:22 AM (KDPiq)
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If I point out that a specific political program failed, is that being negative or accurate? Or are we not allowed to learn from past mistakes because feelings might be hurt?

The right prioritized tax relief over family formation and traditional values, and the results were disastrous.

It is also true that those advocating looser social restrictions are now clutching their pearls about Trump's vulgarity. Guys who wrote essays about how to drive real fast while on drugs and getting your wing-wang stroked and not spilling your drink regard Trump as just too vulgar.

It's a real thing, and the polling sustains it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (ZOv7s)

246 Posted by: Bo Snerdley at December 27, 2025 10:21 AM (R/m4+)

I doubt that how Bo Snerdly actually felt about Rush.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (rZCVI)

247 Don’t worry ASS your time is coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (Ku1ge)

248 236 I am takkng it Karoline Leavitt is pregnant, good for her but that will be the end of job eventually
Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 10:23 AM (Ia/+0)

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I didn't know. I will miss her.She is such a happy warrior.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (1SgbD)

249 I don't really care who replaces Leavitt, as long as it's an uneducated psychotic with at least 15 previous murders under his belt. Spring him from Bedlam, hand him a machete, wheel him up to the lectern, and pop the ratchet straps on his Hannibal Lecter handtruck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (BI5O2)

250 I always appreciated Rush's forthright honesty:
"My goal is to attract and hold the largest audience possible so as to be able to charge advertisers confiscatory rates."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (2Ez/1)

251 Unmedicated, not uneducated

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (BI5O2)

252 I want to influence anyone who calls themselves an influencer with an influential boot up their ass.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:18 AM (Ku1ge)
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LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (A0sqA)

253 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (ZOv7s)

Now you're being obtuse. I said I agreed with your point. But you laid it all on 'Boomercons' which I disagree with. Again Boomercons as you call the elected Reagan and Newt's Congress.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:29 AM (KDPiq)

254 They can create terror, but they cannot run anything successfully anymore. (And full authoritarian regimes are not counter examples, they are just the only semi viable end state of leftism - and even they are fragile)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 10:25 AM (Ku1ge)
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Correct. They dream of camps, but they also neuter the cops. They crippled the military, and the stunt of the Seditious 6 gave the game away.

If there are ballot disputes, it will be Trump's DOJ pushing the investigations. Big difference.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)

255 The whole bit about Reps and Sens drawing full lifetime pensions after 5 years, though, has long pissed me off. Screw term limits, why not end BS like that? Make holding office such that they are begging to get back in the private sector after a short time.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 27, 2025 09:25 AM (muXU/)

1. They should get the equivalent of a 401k, just like us. I bet the rules would be better then.
2. They all make millions every year in the market, why do they need a pension?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 10:30 AM (ExV1e)

256 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 27, 2025 10:03 AM (2J/Lj)

I'm sorry about your teachers. You have some great memories. I still recall mine in the 5th and 6th grade before everyone was "Woke". Darn drunk drivers!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:31 AM (rZCVI)

257 Ah yes. Dave Barry.
boom goes the boomer
good morning! praying for all

I remember when that shithead wrote for The Miami Herald. He wasn't funny then and not funny now. Used to get him and that other commie shithead Carl Hiaasen mixed up. Old farts who need to go away already and stop bothering folks.
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Explains why the only time I see him linked is at Insty.
He's never been funny.
Doonsbury if it was long form.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 27, 2025 10:31 AM (HXT0k)

258 Every damn Saturday. It got old (no pun) a long time ago.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 27, 2025 10:31 AM (Y1sOo)

259 Unmedicated, not uneducated
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 10:28 AM (BI5O2)
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Embrace the power of "and"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:32 AM (A0sqA)

260 Horde have a nice day. Leaving due to the incessant brawls breaking out, saw it I believe, last night on the ONT as well. I thought we could speak our minds without going to personal attacks. Oh well, the pet thread should be better.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 27, 2025 10:32 AM (2NHgQ)

261 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (/NlQo)

Then why are your fellow retards so upset about it.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:32 AM (KDPiq)

262 Just saw a Fox announcement on a Fox video

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 10:33 AM (Ia/+0)

263 Imma whine up some blueberry pancakes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:34 AM (A0sqA)

264 Horde have a nice day.

No way, Jose!

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:34 AM (Bs8oy)

265 Now you're being obtuse. I said I agreed with your point. But you laid it all on 'Boomercons' which I disagree with. Again Boomercons as you call the elected Reagan and Newt's Congress.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:29 AM (KDPiq)
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Boomers were not a majority of the electorate in 1980. Voting patterns skew towards the old, which was the WW II generation (and even older). Boomers were as a whole more liberal than their parents, and we saw this at the ballot box as the 80s turned into the 1990s. The advent of the GOP congressional majority involved several factors, which included massive scandals with the House bank, immense Dem corruption, a unified (and popular) national GOP program, and redistricting that weakened long-standing Dem gerrymanders.

It's funny how the latter is only now getting a lot of attention, but Michigan elected a GOP governor in 1990, and that set the table for a bunch of seats to flip in 1994.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

266 Leaving due to the incessant brawls breaking out"

*grabs popcorn*

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:34 AM (XuXeR)

267 For all the cubbies that MAGA had gotten Trump has only detained 1 200th of the undocumented migrants

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (/NlQo)

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Trump wasn't counting on sharing his office -- and executive power -- with a couple of 100 unelected district court judges

Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 27, 2025 10:34 AM (1SgbD)

268 ---
Right to the personal attack. Nice.
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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This fetish of negatively classifying peoples habits and personalities by some pseudo grouping generated by advertising agencies has been brought to your attention, by others, before.

For some reason you block understanding that you are sewing division within the group that you claim identify.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:35 AM (9y1CY)

269 > Red States won't take it lying down .
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I dunno about that. The public might be agitated, but the politicos don't give a shit. They get paid regardless.

And not to put too fine a point on this, but a year into Trump II and not a single person is in prison for all the shit that went down between 2016 and 2024. Not for a lack of trying, but the judiciary isn't in a mood to help.

And neither is the GOP. With the onus of governing as Trump has intoned to them, they're suspiciously quiet and inactive. Like waiting for the midterms to relieve them of some burden that would compel them to act.

Will all that change? I've no idea. But historically we'll get screwed because the Republicans are the weak link in a legislative/judiciary/executive triad with the left in control.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 10:35 AM (NwnyJ)

270 237 Those damn Libras. I hate those guys. Pussies. Make a fvcking decision for once.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 27, 2025 10:24 AM (A0sqA)

Tell us more of this common scourge.............

Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at December 27, 2025 10:37 AM (jrgJz)

271 No one generation elects someone.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (MvI35)

272 You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Grammar Gestapo at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (2Ez/1)

273 Is COVID still a thing?

I still see covidiots driving around in their cars all by themselves with face diapers on.

A whole lot of mush-headed sheeple were permanently damaged. They're never coming back.
Posted by: Delurker at December 27, 2025

I see the damned things everywhere here. Why do you think I call it "Maskachusetts?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (ufSfZ)

274 More importantly, there's no such thing as a Muslim or illegal alien fire, and there are basically no all-white NYC neighborhoods they can let burn down 4MuhJusticez. It's much harder to politicize firefighting than policing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 27, 2025 09:01 AM

We'll see. Los Angeles DEI'd their fire department and we all know how that affected the fires fighting out there.

Won't matter how good fire fighters are if they are sabotaged by their "leadership".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (P5BPp)

275 JB Pritzker Promises Democrats Will Hold ICE Agents Accountable
Illinois Governor JB Pritzker vows that when Democrats win, ICE agents will be held accountable for their actions. The statement underscores the party’s focus on immigration reform and protecting human rights.

Is this the (D) 26 campaign? Just plain old revenge!
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 27, 2025 09:37 AM (gbOdA)

Remember... Democrats are almost entirely opposed to illegal immigration. It was all, and entirely, Joe Biden. There was just nothing that they could do. The force of his will was too strong.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (ExV1e)

276 osted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 27, 2025 10:27 AM (/NlQo)

Then why are your fellow retards so upset about it.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:32 AM (KDPiq)

To be fair the retards are always mad about something.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (MvI35)

277 Good morning hordemates!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (2WIwB)

278 You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Grammar Gestapo at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (2Ez/1)
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He accidentally said the opposite of what he meant to say...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (Q+8fu)

279 -----------
He accidentally said the opposite of what he meant to say...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (Q+8fu)

Hah.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:40 AM (KDPiq)

280 More like soughing division.

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:40 AM (Bs8oy)

281 A sewer went out to sew...

Posted by: It's in the bible at December 27, 2025 10:41 AM (2Ez/1)

282 This fetish of negatively classifying peoples habits and personalities by some pseudo grouping generated by advertising agencies has been brought to your attention, by others, before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:35 AM (9y1CY)
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Yes, you keep screaming it's communist ad men with offering any other frame to discuss shifts in electoral policies. I guess we just have to not talk about certain things. If you don't like the framing, come up with a more accurate one.

Don't just say I'm wrong or divisive without showing me where I am wrong. Generations are not monolithic, but there are commonalities due to share experiences, beliefs and economic conditions.

Shall I call the socially liberal/fiscal conservative strain that emerged in the 1980s O'Rourke Republicans? Shall I adopt his "Reptile" moniker?

It's interesting that the dispute is not about the topic but the mere attempt to have the discussion.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:43 AM (ZOv7s)

283 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Haven't scrolled through all the comments yet. In fact, I'm usually not on during the weekends, but I'm at a bit of a loose end today.

One thing I will share, based on an experience yesterday - one of the hardest things in the world to learn is not caring.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 10:43 AM (ufSfZ)

284 I have now been blowing my nose every 10 minutes for each waking hour for the past day and today. What a pain in the nose! I am glad I didn't have this nose running on Christmas Eve, but unfortunately I have to cancel worship at the senior center . Spouse is sick as well ( he's the tech man) and we don't want to give anyone to the dear older folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:44 AM (Nx5jP)

285 S'up, MP4?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2025 10:44 AM (Wnv9h)

286
Lay off A.H. Lloyd, everyone. Have we become “No Labels” now? Good grief.
Posted by: Bulg

Coffee Party

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 27, 2025 10:44 AM (pkeXY)

287 278 You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Grammar Gestapo at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (2Ez/1)
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He accidentally said the opposite of what he meant to say...
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Astute observations contribute much clarity to the dispute.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:45 AM (9y1CY)

288 A.H., I agree with you and don’t understand why everyone’s hackles got raised by what you posted.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 10:45 AM (77rzZ)

289 Nick Shirley is a "citizen journalist" type that usually films antifa/BLM riots and stuff like that. He spent 1 day in Minnesota visiting some of the offices of groups that took aid for things like daycare or food for kids.

In 1 day he found over $110 million of fraud. The businesses were mostly empty offices. One claimed to be doing daycare for 102 kids and had exactly zero. The fraud is so obvious there's no way anyone in MN government didn't know what was going on.

Here's his 40 minute video.

https://tinyurl.com/9zrfk6ws

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2025 10:46 AM (viF8m)

290 The sewer fell into the sewer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 27, 2025 10:46 AM (pkeXY)

291 why can't we all just get along?

Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at December 27, 2025 10:46 AM (tljrc)

292 Gentlemen, you can’t fight here, this is a Smart Military Blog!

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

293 286
Lay off A.H. Lloyd, everyone. Have we become “No Labels” now? Good grief.
Posted by: Bulg
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Pick a fight, you're in a fight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM (9y1CY)

294 Good morning hordemates!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 27, 2025 10:39 AM (2WIwB)

What's so good about it?

Splitter!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM (p5Ey8)

295
You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Grammar Gestapo at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM

irregardless, it's a mute point

they'll never tow the line

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM (tljrc)

296 The ASS is right, less than 1% of illegals have been deported. Some of it is due to “judges” but it can’t all be put on them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM (MvI35)

297 S'up, MP4?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2025 10:44 AM (Wnv9h)

Not much. Got a writing project to do, but no real energy. We had a coating of snow yesterday, but I'm hoping the neighbor kids will offer to clear it before I'm forced to go out. Other than that, a quiet Christmas. At some point, I need to make a list of all the work that needs to be done around the house for 2026.

How about you?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM (ufSfZ)

298 295
You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Grammar Gestapo at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM

irregardless, it's a mute point

they'll never tow the line
Posted by: Alto

I could care less about any of this.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:49 AM (MvI35)

299 And the two contrarian schticks show up again at the exact same time. lol

Posted by: one hour sober at December 27, 2025 10:49 AM (Y1sOo)

300
*sigh*
I love my cats, but I really don't need an audience while I eat my meals...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Have you experienced the "nobody poops alone" with cats in the house?

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 27, 2025 10:49 AM (QVxot)

301 284 I have now been blowing my nose every 10 minutes for each waking hour for the past day and today. What a pain in the nose! I am glad I didn't have this nose running on Christmas Eve, but unfortunately I have to cancel worship at the senior center . Spouse is sick as well ( he's the tech man) and we don't want to give anyone to the dear older folks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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When that happens to me I take a dose of horse paste. It may be psychological but it works.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 10:50 AM (9y1CY)

302 No one generation elects someone.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:38 AM (MvI35)
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Well, if one is vastly larger than the others, it is the center of gravity. When I was in college, I interned on a congressional campaign and the manager decided that the center of gravity was a particular municipality whose votes could make or break the primary election.

This was true, but the rural areas also added up, and what ended up happening was that the campaign focused exclusively on that jurisdiction, ignoring the rest, and while they did gain a majority, the lop-sided losses elsewhere crushed them.

We've seen something similar in 2024. The Boomer demographic is still the largest, but losing other demos badly adds up, especially if the Boomers are narrowly divided. This is nothing new, btw, as we recall Clinton's "Soccer Moms" or Reagan's "Blue Collar Democrats."

It's all about building the coalition to get you there. The point I was trying to make is that O'Rourke and his ilk thought they were the backbone of the GOP coalition, but they're not, and their desertion was offset by gains elsewhere. Their formula ultimately failed, whatever you want to call it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ZOv7s)

303 Good morning good Morons. Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested and those known but to God.

A special request for my son's buddy Angelique and her family. Her 3 yr old son died suddenly and unexpectedly the day before Christmas.

Just horrible.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (cYBz/)

304 Here's his 40 minute video.

https://tinyurl.com/9zrfk6ws
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2025 10:46 AM

+++
I'm becoming a big fan of Nick Shirley.
This whole internet thing is so much better than television.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (2Ez/1)

305 An amazing g story of kindness towards a homeless man in Wales.

https://tinyurl.com/msuzey4u

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (Nx5jP)

306
You're not sewing division, you're sowing division.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Grammar Gestapo
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irregardless, it's a mute point
they'll never tow the line
Posted by: AltonJackson
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There, their, they're. Don't get you're panties all bunched up.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (QVxot)

307 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:43 AM (ZOv7s)

You blamed it on Boomers, probably the biggest demographic at aos. Keep fucking that monkey.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:52 AM (KDPiq)

308 Why is this significant? Because that faction is still trying to regain control, and to stop it, we have to fully understand why it failed. We cannot go back because the world has changed on a fundamental level. The path to future success simply can't be built on the old, failed foundation.

That is a discussion worth having, and I'm happy to use whatever labels people prefer.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:52 AM (ZOv7s)

309 Just horrible.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (cYBz/)

I'm so sorry. I will pray.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:52 AM (Nx5jP)

310 I love a good boomer pile on as much as the next guy. But blaming or giving credit to boomers for elections doesn’t work. Too many people above and below any one generation affect the outcome of elections to give credit or blame to them.

But if we’re playing that game..GenX totes elected Ttump in 2024. 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:52 AM (MvI35)

311 Have you experienced the "nobody poops alone" with cats in the house?
Posted by: BifBewalski at December 27, 2025 10:49 AM (QVxot)

Mine practice the "What are you doing, Dave (my name's not Dave, weirdos)" routine, whenever I sit down to this here pooter.

However, some of the more cogent comments I make are when they walk across the keyboard, so there's that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:53 AM (p5Ey8)

312 Just horrible.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 27, 2025 10:51 AM (cYBz/)

Can't get much worse than that. Prayers.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:53 AM (KDPiq)

313 The Boomer demographic"

That's funny right there. 'Cause everyone born from 45 to 65 is the same. Or something...

Please carry on. That's entertainment.

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:53 AM (XuXeR)

314 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December

Thanks. I'm not sure I can get that stuff here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2025 10:54 AM (Nx5jP)

315 These Boomers sound like horrible people. I'm glad I'm not one.

Posted by: fd at December 27, 2025 10:54 AM (vFG9F)

316 I love a good boomer pile on as much as the next guy.. .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Not as much as us - We invented naked, coed Twister.

Really. Okay, it would be frightening now but still. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 27, 2025 10:55 AM (cYBz/)

317 315 These Boomers sound like horrible people. I'm glad I'm not one.
Posted by: fd at December 27, 2025 10:54 AM (vFG9F)

They have sad old man balls that are sad and old.

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:55 AM (Bs8oy)

318 Please carry on. That's entertainment.
Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:53 AM (XuXeR)

I never understood why anyone gets worked up about "their generation."

Phony media brainwashing. Almost as silly as horoscopes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:55 AM (p5Ey8)

319 >>I'm becoming a big fan of Nick Shirley.
This whole internet thing is so much better than television.

He did more actual reporting on the Somali crime wave in MN than any network news has done. A free X account following people like him, Mike Benz, DataRepublican, etc. is much more informative than traditional media.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2025 10:55 AM (viF8m)

320 So glad I was able to choose my own birth date.

Posted by: Wait, wut? at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (2Ez/1)

321 It's like watching someone pull taffy. But someone is just the cruel persistence of gravity.

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (Bs8oy)

322 In 1980 some Boomers weren’t old enough to vote. And they were also the youngest voters who vote at lower rates than the olds. So in 1980 and even I’d argue 1984, even though they were the biggest group physically they didn’t have a corresponding influence. That came in 1988 and beyond. They elected Papa Bush and Clinton.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (MvI35)

323 Finally getting light out. It’s cold and gray. Lucy is snoring.

Need some coffee.
Then pack my range bag.

And yes, Gen X elected Trump. Three times!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (YJQ8M)

324 These Boomers sound like horrible people. I'm glad I'm not one.
Posted by: fd at December 27, 2025 10:54 AM (vFG9F)

Even if I was, I don't have a lawn, so I can't tell anyone to get off it.

Now that's sad.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:57 AM (p5Ey8)

325 The ingenious idea of Nick Shirley to knock on the door of daycare centers and ask, "Where are the kids?"

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 10:57 AM (OEaS0)

326 Again Boomercons as you call the elected Reagan and Newt's Congress.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:29 AM (KDPiq)

They also elected Clinton and both Bushes. As for Congress, other than being a brake on what the Democrats would have done, what has it achieved?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 10:57 AM (ExV1e)

327
The Boomer demographic"

That's funny right there. 'Cause everyone born from 45 to 65 is the same. Or something...

Please carry on. That's entertainment.
Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:53 AM (XuXeR)
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Yeah, I totally made it up. That's the ticket.

People born in 1950 are exactly the same in values and experiences as those born in 2000. Run with that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 10:58 AM (ZOv7s)

328 These Boomers sound like horrible people. I'm glad I'm not one"

What kind of boomer? By race? Religion? Height? Weight?

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:58 AM (XuXeR)

329 So glad I was able to choose my own birth date.
Posted by: Wait, wut? at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (2Ez/1)

Why not, it's 2025.

Or so THEY say. I self identify as living in the year 47.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:58 AM (p5Ey8)

330 A similar cup I bought 30 years ago after a promotion

Dogbert: "Let me drop everything and work on your problem"

https://tinyurl.com/y643rmwe

Posted by: Happy at December 27, 2025 10:59 AM (2kJZi)

331 What kind of boomer? By race? Religion? Height? Weight?
Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 10:58 AM (XuXeR)

Sometimes, depending on what I ate.....

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:59 AM (p5Ey8)

332 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM (MvI35)

1945-1965

I know math is hard.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:59 AM (KDPiq)

333 Yeah, I totally made it up. That's the ticket."

Well, that's what seems to be the working definition of "boomer", so...

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:00 AM (XuXeR)

334 "What kind of boomer? By race? Religion? Height? Weight?
Posted by: man "

Boomers that do boomery things?

Posted by: fd at December 27, 2025 11:00 AM (vFG9F)

335 Heh.
"I'd like to get the paperwork so I can register little Joey for daycare."

And then the hijab wearing black skinned lady gives him a blank stare.

Priceless.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 27, 2025 11:00 AM (2Ez/1)

336 Or so THEY say. I self identify as living in the year 47.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 10:58 AM (p5Ey

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I thought everyone here is 29.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:00 AM (ZOv7s)

337 The Baby Boom was from 1946 to 1964.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM (OEaS0)

338 They also elected Clinton and both Bushes. As for Congress, other than being a brake on what the Democrats would have done, what has it achieved?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 10:57 AM (ExV1e)

Hah Other than that?

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM (KDPiq)

339 So that terrible Drumpf is a Boomer. Figures.

Posted by: Tinfoil Hat But for My Penis at December 27, 2025 11:02 AM (Bs8oy)

340 How about you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 10:48 AM

Not much. Been fighting a cold since Saturday, so just taking it easy for the last couple of days.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2025 11:02 AM (Wnv9h)

341 Amiri King @AmiriKing

A violent black woman beats an Asian lady for not accepting her EBT card to pay for her nails.

X video: https://bit.ly/44Gczb6

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:02 AM (P5BPp)

342 The Baby Boom was from 1946 to 1964.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM (OEaS0)

Agree that one year difference is probably more accurate.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:02 AM (KDPiq)

343 Everyone here IS 29, except for the child prodigy TJM, and JJ Sefton, who, with all his birthdays, is now somewhere north of 43,000.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

344 My in laws are the textbook boomers. God people I like them a lot. But every now and then they’ll throw out something where I’m like how do you have so little self awareness.

My MIL was complaining that their insurance rates went up. And I’m like oh what was she increase. It was $30/mo. It’s some federal employee plan, as she worked for the feds which is basically free. They pay like $300/mo. Mind you they both retired 20+ years ago in their 50s and have been on this essentially free plan since.

I did t say anything but I was thinking are fucking kidding? I pay $1000 a month for my employer’s subsidized plan. If I bought it on my own it would be $2000. And you’re complaint about $30 extra?

It’s the embodiment of the entitled attitude of people that age.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:04 AM (MvI35)

345 Need some coffee.
Then pack my range bag.

And yes, Gen X elected Trump. Three times!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM

Happy shootin', nurse!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Wnv9h)

346 Got gasoline, fired up the snow blower, and cleared the driveways of six neighbors' places.

I think I'm gonna take the rest of the day off and just sit in the chair in front of the computer and do amusing stuff.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 27, 2025 11:04 AM (O7YUW)

347 Everyone here IS 29, except for the child prodigy TJM, and JJ Sefton, who, with all his birthdays, is now somewhere north of 43,000.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 11:03 AM

Gen-X here (1976). 6 weeks until the big 5-0.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (P5BPp)

348 You blamed it on Boomers, probably the biggest demographic at aos. Keep fucking that monkey.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:52 AM (KDPiq)

Allow me to say, as a Boomer, that some people lack the ability to separate themselves from the demographic groups they inhabit.

I can look at the general trends surrounding boomers, and veterans, and people with STEM degrees, and understand the ways in which I differ from the norm. Consequently, either praising - or castigating - those groups for their generalized behavior doesn't bother me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (ExV1e)

349 The ingenious idea of Nick Shirley to knock on the door of daycare centers and ask, "Where are the kids?"
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 10:57 AM (OEaS0)

It is an ingenious idea. But is it going to change anything? I'm willing to bet of he visits the same places a year from now, they'll still be open and no one will have so much as even been charged with fraud, let alone jailed.

This is why I hold out no hope for the midterms. I know that there are many people like me, who voted Trump for revenge and are not only pissed off, but feel like suckers because the country's biggest traitors are still guilty as sin and free as a bird. Why vote GOP when they're in the business of screwing me over?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (ufSfZ)

350 1945-1965

I know math is hard.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:59 AM (KDPiq)

I always heard it was '46 - '64.

The Cardinals won the World Series in '46, and didn't win again until '64. So it was easy for me to remember.

If I had grown up a Yankees fan, then the Boomers would be from '47 (but not '4

, then '49 - '53, and not '54 or '55, '56, but not '57, then '58, not '59 or '60, then finally '61 and '62, but not again until 1977.

What a strange generation, the Yankee Boomers.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (aIUZW)

351 Seekng if last half cup of coffee helps

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 11:06 AM (Ia/+0)

352 Boomers that do boomery things?
Posted by: fd
--------

Especially after cheese with broccoli fillets.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:06 AM (9y1CY)

353 Gen-X here (1976). 6 weeks until the big 5-0.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (P5BPp)

Sophomore in High School.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:06 AM (KDPiq)

354 1945-1965

I know math is hard.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 10:59 AM (KDPiq)

1. 1964 not 1965
2. 1980-1964 =16

You were saying…

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:07 AM (MvI35)

355 Posted by: nurse ratched at December 27, 2025 10:56 AM

Hope you had a lovely Christmas, dear lady. I wish I were joining you at the range.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 11:07 AM (ufSfZ)

356 Baby Boom was from 1946 to 1964."

Hmm. Yet big data (usually garbage, I know) shows the same base on either side of the upwards curve to be beyond those years.

It's a if the concept is sort of...fiction.

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:08 AM (XuXeR)

357 The Baby Boom was from 1946 to 1964.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM (OEaS0)
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There's an article in the First Things archive that claims that the Sexual Revolution was result of the crash in birth rates during the war years. Births didn't really pick up until demobilization and started really going in 1947.

Fast forward to 1965 and the years immediately after. The girls born in 1947 and after are now finishing high school and looking for husbands, and women tend to seek out older, more established men rather than exact contemporaries (especially back then). Problem: the men in the marriage pool are very few due to the war. This makes competition fierce, and puts men in a position to ask more before the ring is put on it.

As the years march on, the problem actually worsens, because the Boom years are matched against the absolute nadir for the male population - 1943-45. The article contends that this was the dry tinder that fed the Sexual Revolution, and that the whole "burn the bra" thing was led by older women who "left over" and now approaching 30. I had never considered it, and I think The Pill played a role, but not as much as people think.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:08 AM (ZOv7s)

358 Tail-end Boomer here. 63 this coming February.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 11:08 AM (ufSfZ)

359
The bedrock of Mao's cultural revolution was to blame the problems of the current entirely on the older generations and older customs. It created a generation of ruthless, merciless and mindless killers who gleefully slaughtered 20 million people to help create the wonder of modern China, a totalitarian nightmare.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:09 AM (9y1CY)

360 It is an ingenious idea. But is it going to change anything? I'm willing to bet of he visits the same places a year from now, they'll still be open and no one will have so much as even been charged with fraud, let alone jailed.

This is why I hold out no hope for the midterms. I know that there are many people like me, who voted Trump for revenge and are not only pissed off, but feel like suckers because the country's biggest traitors are still guilty as sin and free as a bird. Why vote GOP when they're in the business of screwing me over?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM

Yep. In fact, Walz just started a new program to help illegals in Minnesota. He knows he's not going to face any consequences for any of this.

Despite the MASSIVE Somali fraud scandal, Tim Walz announces a NEW welfare program for Somalis and other illegals

X video: https://bit.ly/3MRJCTu

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:09 AM (P5BPp)

361 447 Much of the vitriol directed at Boomers (I am a very late boomer) is pure, unadulterated jealousy.

Because the facts are quite different than the lazy suppositions made by people who are reflexively critical of Boomers.

We paid into SS and Medicare for 40+ years. We suffered through the financial malaise of the 1970s and early 1980s (and the dotcom bubble and the recession of 2008+).

We managed the ups and downs of the economy without whining like little bitches about being owed a universal basic income. We went to work five days a week!

You don't like our success? Tough shit. Make your own success, and stop blaming others for your sloth and weakness.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!]

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (9y1CY)

362 "It is an ingenious idea. But is it going to change anything? I'm willing to bet of he visits the same places a year from now, they'll still be open and no one will have so much as even been charged with fraud, let alone jailed."

###

So you're saying Nothing Will Happen?

Posted by: The person who always says that at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (2Ez/1)

363 It's a if the concept is sort of...fiction.
Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:08 AM (XuXeR)

Yeah, I think one of my comments got wiped out due to the VPN, but to me "my generation" is roughly as meaningful as horoscopes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (aIUZW)

364 Hah Other than that?
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM (KDPiq)

Every single day we get comments about how the Republican controlled Congress has done nothing to cement the changes made by Trump. Republicans have controlled Congress for most of the debt.

They are Democrats running in districts where Democrats can't get elected. They are, generally, lifelong pro-government, big-government drones who will mouth 'conservative' platitudes whenever they need a vote and ignore them the rest of the time.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (ExV1e)

365 Us GenXers just do our thing. Millenials vs boomers has been a fun food fight to watch. GenX vs Millenials is now a thing which is the most hilarious one yet.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (MvI35)

366
The Baby Boom was from 1946 to 1964.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 27, 2025 11:01 AM

-ish

mustn't forget the "-ish" factor

what does someone born in 1962 have in common with someone born in 1946?

my thoughts on the boomer years are from the end of WWII up to JFK taking office in 1961

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (tljrc)

367 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (ExV1e)

I'm not defending Boomers. My point was the variables and multiple existing 'generations' as you point out don't lend to the argument of blaming one specific generation. That's all.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:11 AM (KDPiq)

368
President Donald J. Trump - BOOMER

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:11 AM (9y1CY)

369 but to me "my generation" is roughly as meaningful as horoscopes."

So, "the Age of Aquarius" vs "My Generation"...

I like it!

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:12 AM (XuXeR)

370 We paid into SS and Medicare for 40+ years.
—

And you got out much pore than you put in.

I will also have paid into it for 40 years and will get jack shit. Because by the time I’m old enough to get the bends there will be no more
Money left.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:13 AM (MvI35)

371 Just so everyone is clear, the female tend towards hypergamy means that throughout the Baby Boom, there is a 3-5 year lag between men considered the proper age and the women seeking them, and it continues until things level out over time.

We know that society has historically gone from being very libertine to quite formal and the wheel may be turning back to the historical norm, if only out of exhaustion.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:13 AM (ZOv7s)

372 I'm not defending Boomers. My point was the variables and multiple existing 'generations' as you point out don't lend to the argument of blaming one specific generation. That's all.
Posted by: Opinion fact

And if there is any generational fault -
It is the Silent Generation.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 27, 2025 11:13 AM (/lPRQ)

373 Per the Internet
Boomer_Gen-X_Gen-Y-or-Millennial_Gen-Z_Gen-A

Baby Boomers: Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.
They're currently between 57-75 years old (71.6 million in the U.S.)

 Gen X was born between 1965 and 1979/80
and is currently between 41-56 years old (65.2 million people in the U.S.)

Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6.
They are currently between 25 and 40 years old (72.1 million in the U.S.)

Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old (around 31 million people in the U.S.)

Gen Y.2 = 29-39 (around 42 million people in the U.S.)

Gen Z between 9 and 24 years born between 1997 and 2012.
They are currently between 9 and 24 years old (nearly 68 million in the U.S.)

Gen A: Generation Alpha starts with children born in 2012 and will continue at least through 2025, maybe later (approximately 48 million people in the U.S.)

The term “Millennial” has become the popular way to reference both segments of Gen Y ( Y.1 and Y.2).

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:14 AM (9y1CY)

374 56- Used to get him and that other commie shithead Carl Hiaasen mixed up. Old farts who need to go away already and stop bothering folks.
Posted by: Leisureville Is The Place To BE at December 27, 2025 08:47 AM (R/m4+)

I never read Hiaasen's columns so I didn't know his politics. But his books were hilarious. I did find out later that he would probably hate having me as a fan.

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 27, 2025 11:14 AM (rbKZ6)

375 what does someone born in 1962 have in common with someone born in 1946?

my thoughts on the boomer years are from the end of WWII up to JFK taking office in 1961
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (tljrc)

There has to be a line somewhere. Otherwise you could do the ish thing forever.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:14 AM (MvI35)

376 If you gonna accuse someone then blame someone who cannot / will not speak up

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 27, 2025 11:15 AM (/lPRQ)

377 You were saying…
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:07 AM (MvI35)

3 years out side the 'dates' compared to 17 within. That's the math.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:15 AM (KDPiq)

378 what does someone born in 1962 have in common with someone born in 1946?"

This. I've never understood why the 10 year old watching Davey Crockett on TV is in the same cohort with someone born a decade later... but in following groupings, 10 or so years are the max...

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (XuXeR)

379
Tail-end Boomer here. 63 this coming February.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 27, 2025 11:08 AM

same

turned 63 in October

"boomer adjacent" is the preferred label

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (tljrc)

380 And if there is any generational fault -
It is the Silent Generation.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 27, 2025 11:13 AM (/lPRQ)

No way! It was the 23 Skidoo generation!!

They elected Herbert Hoover, the stinkin' bastards!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (aIUZW)

381 My wife is technically a Boomer, and I’m technically Gen X, but we have more in common with each other than she does with the older Boomers or I with the younger Xers.

We’re Generation Jones.

Posted by: Bulg at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)

382 3 years out side the 'dates' compared to 17 within. That's the math.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:15 AM (KDPiq)

lol. I said some boomers weren’t old enough to vote in 1980. Which is true. Get a grip dude.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (MvI35)

383 Schnorf- I am so sorry for the sudden loss of your wife. I will keep you in my prayers!

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (rbKZ6)

384 The term “Millennial” has become the popular way to reference both segments of Gen Y ( Y.1 and Y.2).
Posted by: Braenyard

Or Generation "Wye'

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (/lPRQ)

385 I'm not defending Boomers. My point was the variables and multiple existing 'generations' as you point out don't lend to the argument of blaming one specific generation. That's all.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:11 AM (KDPiq)

No. Arguably, the gender gap (or, more properly, the unmarried women vs. everyone else gap) is a much bigger tell than generational trends.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

386 lol. I said some boomers weren’t old enough to vote in 1980. Which is true. Get a grip dude.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:16 AM (MvI35)

As an argument against boomers electing Reagan.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (KDPiq)

387 The bedrock of Mao's cultural revolution was to blame the problems of the current entirely on the older generations and older customs. It created a generation of ruthless, merciless and mindless killers who gleefully slaughtered 20 million people to help create the wonder of modern China, a totalitarian nightmare.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:09 AM (9y1CY)
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Gen X doesn't want to tear down society - we want the one our grandparents had. We look at how our parents disrespected their elders, put career over raising children and put the personal fulfillment of divorce over family stability and we reject all of that.

It's counter-revolutionary.

Seriously, if you think I'm a crypto-Maoist for converting to Catholicism, raising my family on a single income and encouraging my children to do that same, I can't help you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:18 AM (ZOv7s)

388 Babh bolmers are from 1946 - like 1964
Supposed to be after WWIi vets got busy
Yet my wife was and I wasn't yet sas born before her

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2025 11:18 AM (Ia/+0)

389 the unmarried women vs. everyone else gap) is a much bigger tell than generational trends"

This is very true.

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:18 AM (XuXeR)

390 "I will also have paid into it for 40 years and will get jack shit. Because by the time I’m old enough to get the bends there will be no more
Money left."

+++

When does SNAP run out of money?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (2Ez/1)

391 Much of the vitriol directed at Boomers (I am a very late boomer) is pure, unadulterated jealousy.

Because the facts are quite different than the lazy suppositions made by people who are reflexively critical of Boomers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM

My tin foil hat theory is that the anti-boomer narrative pushed the last decade or so (dismissive "ok, boomer...") is on purpose to push the younger generations to stop listening to and learning from the older generations.

As CBD stated, the older generations have a lot of experience and knowledge that could be invaluable to pass down and share with younger generations. But the left doesn't want that. The left wants to discredit everything good about the past.

"Much that once was... is lost, for none now live who remember it."

This is the left's goal. Make sure older generations don't pass down valuable knowledge and lessons to the younger generations.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (P5BPp)

392 No. Arguably, the gender gap (or, more properly, the unmarried women vs. everyone else gap) is a much bigger tell than generational trends.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

Seems to me the so-called Boomer generation contains both Vietnam Vets and dirty stinking draft dodger hippies.

Maybe they softened a bit over the years, but I suspect those two groups still don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (aIUZW)

393 We look at how our parents disrespected their elders, put career over raising children and put the personal fulfillment of divorce over family stability and we reject all of that."

Dude has issues...

Posted by: man at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (XuXeR)

394 ---Yeah, I think one of my comments got wiped out due to the VPN, but to me "my generation" is roughly as meaningful as horoscopes.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Do we see the left dividing itself by these faux designations? I don't think so.

These divisions were contrived by merchandisers then taken by the left to help divide us. This generational division language is another communist ploy to destroy unity among conservatives.

Using such generational nomenclature is adopting the language of the left. And every time we use their language is our concession to them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:20 AM (9y1CY)

395 Gen-X here (1976). 6 weeks until the big 5-0.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton

Sophomore in High School.
Posted by: Opinion fact

Long graduated. Heh.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (cYBz/)

396 Gen-X here (1976). 6 weeks until the big 5-0.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:05 AM (P5BPp)

Sophomore in High School.
Posted by: Opinion fact

Graduated from High School.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (bQ4nt)

397
There has to be a line somewhere. Otherwise you could do the ish thing forever.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:14 AM

OK

does 02SEP45 to 20JAN61 define the lines?

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (tljrc)

398 Gen-X used to be called the latch-key kids. Single parent homes with the parent working, or two parent homes and both parents had to work. Kids were given a key to get in the home when they got back from school, and often just cooked something quick for themselves. "If you use the stove, remember to turn the element off and don't burn the house down! Oh, and do the vacuuming before I get home."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (O7YUW)

399 As an argument against boomers electing Reagan.

Posted by: Opinion fact at December 27, 2025 11:17 AM (KDPiq)

If you want to believe 18-30 year old boomers elected Reagan in 1980 all by themselves have at it.

It’s hilarious because if you look at polling from that election 18:30 voting patterns were similar to patterns throughout the 80s 90s and 2000s, ie the young voted Democrat.

But you go on believing what you want.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (MvI35)

400 We paid into SS and Medicare for 40+ years. We suffered through the financial malaise of the 1970s and early 1980s (and the dotcom bubble and the recession of 2008+).

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:10 AM (9y1CY)
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Boomers paid for their parents' SS and Medicare, and created a surplus that they have now reduced to zero.

Everyone else is now paying for the Boomers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (ZOv7s)

401 Just my opinion, but using generational labels to "other" an entire demographic as this, or that, is exactly what the left does to anyone they disagree with or dislike.

Regardless of their age, political bent, sex or whatever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (NwnyJ)

402 Seems to me the so-called Boomer generation contains both Vietnam Vets and dirty stinking draft dodger hippies.

Maybe they softened a bit over the years, but I suspect those two groups still don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (aIUZW)

I think Boomers, generally speaking, have a greater belief in, and respect for, government programs than any group other than unmarried women.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:22 AM (ExV1e)

403 .
NOOD

Thread before the Gardening Thread, December 27

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 27, 2025 11:22 AM (O7YUW)

404 These divisions were contrived by merchandisers then taken by the left to help divide us. This generational division language is another communist ploy to destroy unity among conservatives.

Using such generational nomenclature is adopting the language of the left. And every time we use their language is our concession to them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:20 AM (9y1CY)

Corporate media creates narratives, and humans, being human, are drawn to those narratives like moths to the flame.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:22 AM (aIUZW)

405 does 02SEP45 to 20JAN61 define the lines?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (tljrc)

So someone born on Sept 3 doesn’t have anything in common with someone born on Sept 1?

Seems how easy it is to play the ish game forever?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:23 AM (MvI35)

406 OK

does 02SEP45 to 20JAN61 define the lines?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:21 AM (tljrc)
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Noted cultural expert Gary Trudeau declared that the first Boomer was born nine months after V-J Day, and "Doonsbury" marked the 40th anniversary of that as the beginning of Boomers entering middle age.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 27, 2025 11:23 AM (ZOv7s)

407 Maybe they softened a bit over the years, but I suspect those two groups still don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2025 11:19 AM (aIUZW)

I have both in my own family. I have one bro and sis in law who are the stereotypical aged out 60’s hippies who got into computers and made money and think Portland is great.
And I have an uncle (who just passed away this year) who did special ops in the Vietnamese jungles. No they didn’t see each other.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2025 11:24 AM (Ku1ge)

408 think Boomers, generally speaking, have a greater belief in, and respect for, government programs than any group other than unmarried women.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 27, 2025 11:22 AM (ExV1e)

Agreed. I think it’s more the institution of government than the programs themselves. There’s this trust in the govt doing the right thing for the people. Also why they still watch ABC News, it’s trust in big institutions.

Trump is guilty of this too. See the Kennedy Center renaming. No millenial or GenX president would give two fucks about the Kennedy Center. It’s not on our radar as an important thing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:26 AM (MvI35)

409 >>>---
Gen X doesn't want to tear down society - we want the one our grandparents had. We look at how our parents disrespected their elders, put career over raising children and put the personal fulfillment of divorce over family stability and we reject all of that.
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I'm sorry your parents disrespected their elders.
But that's not the norm.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:26 AM (9y1CY)

410 "Thinking about having a transfer switch and panel put in ...
We had one put in for about $2500."

I bought a transfer switch for 6 circuits for about $250. Haven't installed it yet but it looks very straightforward. Would let me run most of my house on my solar panels.
My inverter can also use a self start generator, haven't done that yet, don't lose power for more than a few hours usually.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 27, 2025 11:27 AM (vbXSk)

411
So someone born on Sept 3 doesn’t have anything in common with someone born on Sept 1?

Seems how easy it is to play the ish game forever?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 27, 2025 11:23 AM

the point was the boomers were born (roughly) after WWII ended up to (roughly) JFK taking office

can't put a hard date on generations

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2025 11:28 AM (tljrc)

412 Mr Poppins!

Good morning, good sir! I bet the snow is beautiful on your sweet house. How are the puppers doing?

Brrr. Baby it’s cold outside.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 27, 2025 11:29 AM (IhIKR)

413 Greetings, Horde, from Great Falls, MT. Was 38 degrees when I arrived last night. Snowing lightly now. Will be southbound and down shortly.

Schnorflepuppy, please accept my condolences. Very sad news, indeed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2025 11:30 AM (cMZNg)

414 Trump is guilty of this too. See the Kennedy Center renaming. No millenial or GenX president would give two fucks about the Kennedy Center. It’s not on our radar as an important thing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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He sees it as glorification and perpetuation of our culture which is a necessary thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:31 AM (9y1CY)

415 If you had faith the size of a mustard seed...
Oh, Lord, I am not worthy...

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 27, 2025 11:33 AM (YlWIZ)

416 I'm sorry your parents disrespected their elders.
But that's not the norm.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:26 AM

Yeah, that was not my experience at all. I was raised to respect my elders and to be humble and learn as much as I can from them. From family members to friends of family to neighbors to teachers to basically anyone we met who was older than us.

I took this attitude with me to college as well as to every job I have ever had. I still remember starting out at my first job after college in 1999 and almost everyone looking at me assuming I was going to be some young, know-it-all jackass. But while I had confidence in myself, I also knew I didn't know everything. So I spent my time learning as much as I could from everyone I could.

This attitude has helped me bond with coworkers everywhere I have worked. And maybe I have been lucky with my friends and acquaintances around my age, but that has been my experience with most people my age. Granted, I also have always chosen to not spend time around leftists.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 27, 2025 11:34 AM (P5BPp)

417 Glad things are going well.
Welcome to the USA.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ asd at December 27, 2025 11:35 AM (9y1CY)

418 Schnorflepuppy, I am so sorry about your wife. Prayers up for you and your family.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 27, 2025 11:39 AM (0nHVk)

419 Generation landslide closed the gap between em

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 27, 2025 11:41 AM (pkeXY)

420 Well, shutting down the laptop, and ready to hit the road. Will touch base again once stopped for the night.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2025 11:42 AM (cMZNg)

421 I know,

lets come up with a specific label for a broad generalization and then argue about it.

Posted by: pawn at December 27, 2025 11:43 AM (EMg+d)

422 Necro-posting after the next thread has gone up, but thank you Annie for posting my updates, and thanks to y'all collectively for the kind words. I was happy to get my wife to the TXMoMe this year to meet the Horde members. My family is hurting, of course, but we are well-supported by our friends and our church family.

I will post service information when we've finalized it on Monday or Tuesday.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 27, 2025 11:49 AM (v23vE)

423 Also Willowing myself, but: This past Tuesday we went in for Lil Pookette's almost-7-weeks ultrasound. (We did IVF and she was our only girl embryo.) When they looked at the gestational sac, it looked empty. There was no heartbeat, no yolk sac developing, just a hole where the baby should have been. I have an ultrasound in two weeks but my body hasn't figured out that she's gone yet.

Rest in peace, Violet Marie.

Posted by: pookysgirl is struggling at December 27, 2025 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)

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