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By 6-3 Vote, Supreme Court Lets Stand Ruling That Trump Cannot Send the National Guard to Illinois to Protect Federal Agents and Offices
Per the Supreme Court, violent anarchists can continue attacking federal agents and ICE offices with the sanction of the state and city governments, and Trump isn't allowed to use the National Guard to protect them. Note the Guard wouldn't be used to make arrests or anything. He just wanted them to protect federal personnel and assets under attack by leftist street militias operating with the implicit sanction of Pritzker and Brandon Johnson. And the Supreme Court said: No, you cannot protect federal employees from paramilitary assaults. We'll keep that in mind next time Trantifa tries to kill judges. Note that Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett sided with the far left wing. As usual.The Supreme Court claimed that using the Guard to protect the physical safety of ICE officers executing the law was not part of "executing the law" in itself. This is an absurdly strained and lawless twisting of words to get the outcome that Roberts and Coney-Barrett wanted. Again, we'll see what happens when these people threaten to kill them. I say, well, yo know what, we're not allowed to send in the National Guard to execute the law so I guess you'll just have to stock up on ammunition.
The Supreme Court on Tuesday blocked President Trump from federalizing and deploying Illinois National Guard troops to Chicago, dealing a setback to the administration's effort to bolster security for Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers operating amid violent unrest in the sanctuary city. In a 6--3 decision, the Court declined to lift a lower-court order that had stopped Trump from sending roughly 300 Guardsmen to assist ICE as agents faced repeated attacks near an enforcement facility outside the city. The dispute traces back to October, when Trump moved to federalize the Guard after rioters descended on an ICE site in Broadview, Illinois, chanting "Kill ICE!" and "Shoot ICE!" and confronting officers. A Biden-appointed federal judge issued a temporary restraining order, which the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit refused to pause--prompting the administration to seek emergency relief from the high court. In its unsigned order, the Court said the government failed, at this early stage, to identify clear statutory authority allowing the military to "execute the laws" in Illinois.
The majority emphasized that the administration had not invoked an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act and instead relied on claims of inherent constitutional authority to protect federal personnel and property--an argument the Court found insufficient on the present record. The application for a stay was denied, leaving the lower-court block in place. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Amy Coney Barrett, and Ketanji Brown Jackson joined the order, while Justice Brett Kavanaugh filed a concurring opinion. Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Neil Gorsuch dissented. Alito's dissent cut sharply against the majority, warning that the Court was standing in the way of basic protection for federal officers under threat. "Whatever one may think about the current administration's enforcement of the immigration laws or the way ICE has conducted its operations, the protection of federal officers from potentially lethal attacks should not be thwarted," he wrote.Kavanaugh concurred with the ruling. He allows that Trump may send in the military itself -- not the state National Guard, but the actual Army and Marines -- if he invokes the Insurrection Act. But don't think that this fixes the problem. He's just one vote. Even if Trump does this and Kavanaugh blesses it, it would still be 5-4 against protecting federal agents from attacks by Antifa, with Roberts and Coney Barrett joining their leftwing allies again.
Clandestine
@WarClandestine
Holy shit I think it’s actually happening. I am reading through the Supreme Court ruling in Trump vs. Illinois, and they ruled that Trump needs to invoke the Insurrection Act in order to send the troops into Chicago. Kavanaugh in his dissent even says that this ruling "could cause the President to use the US military more than the National Guard". The Supreme Court just admitted that Trump has the authority to invoke the Insurrection Act to bypass Posse Comitatus and send the troops to Chicago, and any other city he wants. Trump tried to exhaust every legal avenue possible before resulting to the Insurrection Act, but the Dems resisted and refused to cooperate. Sounds to me like Trump just got the green light. INVOKE THE INSURRECTION ACT!
🚨 In an apparent 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court has BLOCKED President Trump's deployment of the National Guard to Illinois, denying the government's application for a stay.
— SCOTUS Wire (@scotus_wire) December 23, 2025
Justice Alito dissents joined by Thomas. Gorsuch dissents. Kavanaugh concurs. pic.twitter.com/JLfpjbaNxb
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There you go.
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:22 PM (IuFEo)
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Merry Christmas Ace.
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:22 PM (IuFEo)
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This spot reserved for The Blade
This spot reserved for The Blade
Posted by: RSVP at December 24, 2025 02:22 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:23 PM (IifOV)
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The proggie democrat crime organization wants, really wants a shooting civil war.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 24, 2025 02:24 PM (xvV+O)
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Send in the Marines.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:25 PM (PIdvu)
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Now we know what Roberts meant when he said there aren't any Trump Judges.
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:25 PM (IuFEo)
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I took a whole platter full of pigs in a blanket (little smokies wrapped in crescent roll dough baked to a golden brown) to the company party today, and was immediately asked if they were pork or beef smokies. If the dough was gluten free, or fried.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
I took a whole platter full of pigs in a blanket (little smokies wrapped in crescent roll dough baked to a golden brown) to the company party today, and was immediately asked if they were pork or beef smokies. If the dough was gluten free, or fried.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:26 PM (IifOV)
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Who protects SC justices? Secret Service, or another executive branch department?
If so, I know 6 justices who apparently don't need protection.
If so, I know 6 justices who apparently don't need protection.
Posted by: mikeski at December 24, 2025 02:27 PM (UeBTl)
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The Democrats have the pics of Roberts and his mail order child brides.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:27 PM (PIdvu)
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Not the NG, but yes to the Marines.
This is not some kind of loss.
This is just returning to the standard that Eisenhower used.
This is not some kind of loss.
This is just returning to the standard that Eisenhower used.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 24, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: brak at December 24, 2025 02:27 PM (SytBa)
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Hola 0
Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (LdBR/)
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I took a whole platter full of pigs in a blanket (little smokies wrapped in crescent roll dough baked to a golden brown) to the company party today, and was immediately asked if they were pork or beef smokies. If the dough was gluten free, or fried.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:26 PM (IifOV)
Your cow-orkers are gay.
I took a whole platter full of pigs in a blanket (little smokies wrapped in crescent roll dough baked to a golden brown) to the company party today, and was immediately asked if they were pork or beef smokies. If the dough was gluten free, or fried.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:26 PM (IifOV)
Your cow-orkers are gay.
Posted by: Also retarded at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (TbWk/)
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The violence in places like Shitcago causes the deaths and wounding of hundreds of young people each week. Thousands of the stupid people who live there live in fear and cannot go to certain areas which are "No Go" zones simply because the City government/democrats want it that way. Law and order has broken down and lives are in the balance but I did vote to stop abortion.
Posted by: Amy Conehead Barrett, Collector Of Trophy Children at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (R/m4+)
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Frank - I can only assume you made sure they were pork smokies, made with extra gluten, and fried in seed oils.
Posted by: PabloD at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (Epuwl)
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So Thomas is wrong?
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (IuFEo)
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17 So Thomas is wrong?
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (IuFEo)
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Thomas would rather the NG be used than the Marines.
But, I do think he's wrong.
Trump wasn't using these federal forces to enforce law but to protect federal assets. He's using his post as commander in chief of the armed forces to protect federal assets, just like Eisenhower.
The whole National Guard end-run was a post Eisenhower effort to prevent the bad images of Marines up against American citizens, that's all.
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:28 PM (IuFEo)
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Thomas would rather the NG be used than the Marines.
But, I do think he's wrong.
Trump wasn't using these federal forces to enforce law but to protect federal assets. He's using his post as commander in chief of the armed forces to protect federal assets, just like Eisenhower.
The whole National Guard end-run was a post Eisenhower effort to prevent the bad images of Marines up against American citizens, that's all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 24, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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If I disagree with Clarence Thomas, I always just assume I'm wrong.
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:30 PM (IuFEo)
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he whole National Guard end-run was a post Eisenhower effort to prevent the bad images of Marines up against American citizens, that's all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 24, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
So what prevents that now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 24, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
So what prevents that now?
Posted by: ... at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM (IuFEo)
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Appeal the ruling, of course, but send in a bunch of those armed NOAA, EPA, DEA etc etc types for whom the JEF bought all those guns, to protect ICE. If anyone objects they can be fired for cause, and replaced with a Moron.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM (ULPxl)
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Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:26 PM
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Bring 'em on in to ClubONT!
We'll say "Thank You!" and devour them!
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Bring 'em on in to ClubONT!
We'll say "Thank You!" and devour them!
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM (rdVOm)
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if those smokies showed up here my grandkids would inhale them immediately...the eight year old would get the most
Posted by: DanMan at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM (8uzBS)
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Marines are at the President's disposal.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:33 PM (PIdvu)
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You don't like the result, but that doesn't mean it was the wrong decision based on the law. I think they decided correctly, even though ICE clearly needs help.
Trump needs to find more FBI agents or some other branch of Federal law enforcement and send them. Or start hiring a whole lot more.
I've not seen one yet where ACB didn't strictly interpret the law. Maybe I've missed something... but this doesn't appear to be one of those either. Roberts is a different story.
Trump needs to find more FBI agents or some other branch of Federal law enforcement and send them. Or start hiring a whole lot more.
I've not seen one yet where ACB didn't strictly interpret the law. Maybe I've missed something... but this doesn't appear to be one of those either. Roberts is a different story.
Posted by: Frank Nobody at December 24, 2025 02:33 PM (75cud)
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Trump should pull everyone out of Chicago & Illinois. Cut all fed funding. Allow the area to be flooded with illegals as a sanctuary. Let the whole state cave in on itself.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 24, 2025 02:34 PM (IifOV)
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And if klantifag is a ferrin terrorist org can it have letters of marque and reprisal directed at its members?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 02:34 PM (ULPxl)
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Do what you gotta do Mr.President. The SC gave you the green light, use it! We can't have savages run the streets.
Posted by: Case at December 24, 2025 02:35 PM (G1OIb)
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It just stands to reason that the CINC can’t deploy troops as he sees fit, if you stop and think about it.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 02:35 PM (r3wfs)
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On the other hand, it's hard to argue with the statement above: "When I find I disagree with Thomas, I just assume I'm wrong."
Yeah.
Yeah.
Posted by: Frank Nobody at December 24, 2025 02:36 PM (75cud)
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Thomas would rather the NG be used than the Marines.
But, I do think he's wrong.
Trump wasn't using these federal forces to enforce law but to protect federal assets. He's using his post as commander in chief of the armed forces to protect federal assets, just like Eisenhower.
The whole National Guard end-run was a post Eisenhower effort to prevent the bad images of Marines up against American citizens, that's all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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TJM, the 101st was sent first and then Eisenhower federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard to prevent Faubus from using them for mischief. Natl Guard was used inside the schools and 101st had the perimeter outside the school. FIL was federalized Guard from outside of LR and served in LR Central High School escorting black students to and from classes. So did his brother.
But, I do think he's wrong.
Trump wasn't using these federal forces to enforce law but to protect federal assets. He's using his post as commander in chief of the armed forces to protect federal assets, just like Eisenhower.
The whole National Guard end-run was a post Eisenhower effort to prevent the bad images of Marines up against American citizens, that's all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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TJM, the 101st was sent first and then Eisenhower federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard to prevent Faubus from using them for mischief. Natl Guard was used inside the schools and 101st had the perimeter outside the school. FIL was federalized Guard from outside of LR and served in LR Central High School escorting black students to and from classes. So did his brother.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:36 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 24, 2025 02:37 PM (Cjt/F)
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Can't he just deputize a bunch of military personnel?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 24, 2025 02:37 PM (5IFb9)
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Meh ... let me summarize all this for you here.
Illinois is a state ruled by a city. Just like New York Just like California.
When those cities decide to unleash Hell on those states ? Stop - for the Love of God Stop - insisting on going in and fixing it. Let it happen.
One of Trump's biggest mistakes. Insisting on fixing something for a city that hates him. I'm glad he got shut down.
Illinois is a state ruled by a city. Just like New York Just like California.
When those cities decide to unleash Hell on those states ? Stop - for the Love of God Stop - insisting on going in and fixing it. Let it happen.
One of Trump's biggest mistakes. Insisting on fixing something for a city that hates him. I'm glad he got shut down.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:38 PM (Xy8Lb)
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If President Trump invoked the Insurrection Act, could he declare the Democratic Party to be involved in insurrection and dissolve the party?
Posted by: clarence at December 24, 2025 02:38 PM (MXMX4)
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Use the National Guard on Roberts and Barrett.
Posted by: The_Hoser at December 24, 2025 02:39 PM (H4qGm)
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Trump should stack the court with hardliners right now F*ck these douchebags like Kav and ACB. Put them in their place.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:39 PM (abIsI)
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Let the leftists in Chicago suffer while the case winds it's way through the Fed cts. Great job Conehead and Lardass
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 24, 2025 02:40 PM (2vrAX)
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This is GREAT news.
I want Trump to get burnt bad by the SCOTUS,... so that his next picks are so rock ribbed they make Scalia look weak.
He has had it too easy so far and it was making me worry.
I want Trump to get burnt bad by the SCOTUS,... so that his next picks are so rock ribbed they make Scalia look weak.
He has had it too easy so far and it was making me worry.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at December 24, 2025 02:41 PM (fsyiM)
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Trump should stack the court with hardliners right now F*ck these douchebags like Kav and ACB. Put them in their place.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:39 PM (abIsI)
I'm telling my Mom! Mom! Mommy!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:39 PM (abIsI)
I'm telling my Mom! Mom! Mommy!
Posted by: Brett Kavanaugh, Momma's Boy at December 24, 2025 02:41 PM (R/m4+)
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Send in the Marines.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:25 PM
My understanding of the ruling, after reading John Hinderaker's Power line piece on this, is the SC pretty much affirmed that. Frankly, I think the majority, and Justice Roberts specifically, are being too clever by half with this ruling. The professional plaintiffs will take this win, hammer the arguments on to their next suit, which a lower court will affirm, and another round of cajoling/threatening will hit the desks of Roberts and ACB..
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:25 PM
My understanding of the ruling, after reading John Hinderaker's Power line piece on this, is the SC pretty much affirmed that. Frankly, I think the majority, and Justice Roberts specifically, are being too clever by half with this ruling. The professional plaintiffs will take this win, hammer the arguments on to their next suit, which a lower court will affirm, and another round of cajoling/threatening will hit the desks of Roberts and ACB..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 24, 2025 02:41 PM (nbLIj)
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I think the Insurrection Act is going to happen anyway, and that it will happen after a horrific crime against ICE personnel.
I don't like it and obviously am not calling for it to happen, but the lawless courts are calling for it to happen.
I don't like it and obviously am not calling for it to happen, but the lawless courts are calling for it to happen.
Posted by: GKWVE at December 24, 2025 02:41 PM (27L5L)
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Wide Latina.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:41 PM (PIdvu)
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They didn't say "no".. They just kicked the can down the road on it...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 24, 2025 02:43 PM (VE6XX)
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I took a whole platter full of pigs in a blanket (little smokies wrapped in crescent roll dough baked to a golden brown) to the company party today, and was immediately asked if they were pork or beef smokies. If the dough was gluten free, or fried.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
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If they're pork, swing them by your local mosque and label them beef.
I'm going to put the foil back on them and take them home.
Merry Christmas from Portland Oregon
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If they're pork, swing them by your local mosque and label them beef.
Posted by: The_Hoser at December 24, 2025 02:44 PM (H4qGm)
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Notice how the leftists on the SCROTUM never cross the aisle and vote against The Party when it really matters?
Posted by: Party Discipline at December 24, 2025 02:44 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 24, 2025 02:44 PM (sAmhv)
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The six weak-sisters strike again.
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 24, 2025 02:45 PM (mcWkK)
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I sympathize with the "let it happen" thoughts, but I can't get behind allowing crazed Antifa mobs to destroy Federal property. Unless Trump want to set up a Fort Sumter situation.
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at December 24, 2025 02:45 PM (2ov6M)
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Appeal the ruling, of course, but send in a bunch of those armed NOAA, EPA, DEA etc etc types for whom the JEF bought all those guns, to protect ICE. If anyone objects they can be fired for cause, and replaced with a Moron.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM
Or this: gather up as many troops as needed (either NG or Marines) and TDY them to ICE. Whip up some velcro backed "ICE" patches they can slap on their drip; put them under ICE authority
I'm sure ICE has an existing job description what says "Protective Detail" or some siht...make the troops (temporarily) ICE agents
problem solved
Appeal the ruling, of course, but send in a bunch of those armed NOAA, EPA, DEA etc etc types for whom the JEF bought all those guns, to protect ICE. If anyone objects they can be fired for cause, and replaced with a Moron.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 02:32 PM
Or this: gather up as many troops as needed (either NG or Marines) and TDY them to ICE. Whip up some velcro backed "ICE" patches they can slap on their drip; put them under ICE authority
I'm sure ICE has an existing job description what says "Protective Detail" or some siht...make the troops (temporarily) ICE agents
problem solved
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 24, 2025 02:45 PM (tljrc)
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The Empire is giving Diego Garcia to the Chinese.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 02:46 PM (PIdvu)
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I'm starting to think that Amy C. B. hasn't worked out well possibly because she was a last minute appointment - wasn't she? Appointed just before the election due to the unexpected death of Notorious RBG ? I wonder if the imminent upcoming presidential election unduly influenced the selection of a 'moderate' conservative?
Or if by overturning R v W she served her purpose?
I may have my timeline a little off...
Or if by overturning R v W she served her purpose?
I may have my timeline a little off...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 24, 2025 02:46 PM (QGaXH)
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Frankly, I think the majority, and Justice Roberts specifically, are being too clever by half with this ruling.
John Roberts isn't clever by any margin. He's so damn obvious it hurts.
All he does, day in and day out, is try to figure out what ruling he can make - how he can drag four other of those nine clueless incompetents with him - to keep that court going just a little bit longer.
They're all just arranging deck chairs. While the big piece of ice gets a little bigger and a little bigger.
John Roberts isn't clever by any margin. He's so damn obvious it hurts.
All he does, day in and day out, is try to figure out what ruling he can make - how he can drag four other of those nine clueless incompetents with him - to keep that court going just a little bit longer.
They're all just arranging deck chairs. While the big piece of ice gets a little bigger and a little bigger.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:46 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Trump needs to FINALLY invoke the Insurrection Act (five years too late).
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 24, 2025 02:46 PM (mcWkK)
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35 If President Trump invoked the Insurrection Act, could he declare the Democratic Party to be involved in insurrection and dissolve the party?
Posted by: clarence
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Pretty much crossing the Rubicon which is why Trump will probably use Marines like in Portland to protect the ICE facility.
The reason to federalize ILL Nat Guard is that they have arrest authority without invoking the Insurrection Act where Marines do not unless the Insurrection Act is invoked.
Posted by: clarence
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Pretty much crossing the Rubicon which is why Trump will probably use Marines like in Portland to protect the ICE facility.
The reason to federalize ILL Nat Guard is that they have arrest authority without invoking the Insurrection Act where Marines do not unless the Insurrection Act is invoked.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (WDjG6)
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34 Meh ... let me summarize all this for you here.
Illinois is a state ruled by a city. Just like New York Just like California.
Posted by: Howdy
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ANd to fix that, we need SCOTUS to unwind renyolds v. simms, which held that the districts must have "roughly equal" population to satisfy one-man-one-vote.
Illinois is a state ruled by a city. Just like New York Just like California.
Posted by: Howdy
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ANd to fix that, we need SCOTUS to unwind renyolds v. simms, which held that the districts must have "roughly equal" population to satisfy one-man-one-vote.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (fsyiM)
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Possible one million additional Epstein files found by Southern District of NY. The corrupt leftists there have been hiding everything . Maybe they'll come up with Weiner's laptop
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (2vrAX)
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EU Threatens Retaliation Against U.S. After Ex-Censorship Tsar Breton Sanctioned
What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (abIsI)
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52 I'm starting to think that Amy C. B. hasn't worked out well possibly because she was a last minute appointment - wasn't she? Appointed just before the election due to the unexpected death of Notorious RBG ? I wonder if the imminent upcoming presidential election unduly influenced the selection of a 'moderate' conservative?
Or if by overturning R v W she served her purpose?
I may have my timeline a little off...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
Nope, vacancy occurred just before the Nov. 2020 election (Ginsburg death was Sept. 18th). ACB was the only way for Trump to get his appointment on the Court before the election allowed by McConnell. Several of the usual asshole GOP types wanted to wait to fill the office until after the November elections which probably would have meant Biden got the pick.
Or if by overturning R v W she served her purpose?
I may have my timeline a little off...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
Nope, vacancy occurred just before the Nov. 2020 election (Ginsburg death was Sept. 18th). ACB was the only way for Trump to get his appointment on the Court before the election allowed by McConnell. Several of the usual asshole GOP types wanted to wait to fill the office until after the November elections which probably would have meant Biden got the pick.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:49 PM (WDjG6)
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A mite closer to war.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2025 02:49 PM (Slgjz)
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What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
They'll start arresting Americans traveling through any connecting airport. They'll start getting New York City, LA and San Fran, Baltimore, Chicago, and Boston to extradite.
That's where we are heading.
They'll start arresting Americans traveling through any connecting airport. They'll start getting New York City, LA and San Fran, Baltimore, Chicago, and Boston to extradite.
That's where we are heading.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:50 PM (Xy8Lb)
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I’m not sure why federal employees need natty guard protection in the first place.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 02:51 PM (f8+Yv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 02:51 PM (pkeXY)
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21 Appeal the ruling, of course, but send in a bunch of those armed NOAA, EPA, DEA etc etc types for whom the JEF bought all those guns, to protect ICE. If anyone objects they can be fired for cause, and replaced with a Moron.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Trump has to wait for the permanent injunction to be levied before appealing again. Better to use another means.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Trump has to wait for the permanent injunction to be levied before appealing again. Better to use another means.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:52 PM (WDjG6)
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I think the national guard would be preferable because the army and marines are war fighters who break things and kill.
I believe that at least the nation guard would be mostly locals who have a stake in maintaining order.
I believe that at least the nation guard would be mostly locals who have a stake in maintaining order.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 24, 2025 02:52 PM (nljXp)
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So what you're saying is that Everything is riding on the SCOTUS and the next picks.
And that is riding on who controls the Senate.
And that (according to Ace) is riding on the economy in July.
I think Trump is acting as if he understands this.
And that is riding on who controls the Senate.
And that (according to Ace) is riding on the economy in July.
I think Trump is acting as if he understands this.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at December 24, 2025 02:52 PM (fsyiM)
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So -- thinking about possible responses here
If Trump were to withdraw all federal law enforcement personnel from Illinois and allow them to experience the full consequences of their lawlessness, would it be possible to keep that rot contained in Illinois and prevent it seeping out into other states who did not ask to be endangered?
If Trump were to withdraw all federal law enforcement personnel from Illinois and allow them to experience the full consequences of their lawlessness, would it be possible to keep that rot contained in Illinois and prevent it seeping out into other states who did not ask to be endangered?
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Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 02:53 PM (rbvCR)
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So, its a tax?
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 24, 2025 02:53 PM (YlWIZ)
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So, as I noted last night, the Supreme Court has declared a low level Federal Judge, as Commander in Chief, NOT the President of the United States.
More, how does anyone have standing to sue on this? What DAMAGE has been done? As noted in the Supreme Court decision on the Obama Birth Certificate case, until damage is actually done, you have no power to sue.
The Supremes allowed even MAYORS to stomp on our Rights during Covid... flat out said they would not interfere during an 'emergency'... yet now? constant interfering is what the President has declared as an emergency.
More, how does anyone have standing to sue on this? What DAMAGE has been done? As noted in the Supreme Court decision on the Obama Birth Certificate case, until damage is actually done, you have no power to sue.
The Supremes allowed even MAYORS to stomp on our Rights during Covid... flat out said they would not interfere during an 'emergency'... yet now? constant interfering is what the President has declared as an emergency.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 02:53 PM (mP0Kj)
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An historical time travel fantasy.
Julie Roginsky
@julieroginsky
If escaped inmates from Dachau had staggered into a newsroom in 1930s Berlin to report what was happening, what would Bari Weiss have done? I think we know.
Julie Roginsky
@julieroginsky
If escaped inmates from Dachau had staggered into a newsroom in 1930s Berlin to report what was happening, what would Bari Weiss have done? I think we know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 02:53 PM (L/fGl)
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If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
And you would be in jail before the sun sets. With the full force of the city against you. And the state - in California or New York or Maryland or Illinois. All while detained by one of our Angels in Blue and guarded by the same.
The real question is - why work for the Fed in one of these places ? Move. Vote with your feet. Find another job.
And you would be in jail before the sun sets. With the full force of the city against you. And the state - in California or New York or Maryland or Illinois. All while detained by one of our Angels in Blue and guarded by the same.
The real question is - why work for the Fed in one of these places ? Move. Vote with your feet. Find another job.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:53 PM (Xy8Lb)
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So what happens if we just beef up ICE with more people and more weapons? It’s well established at this point that law enforcement can use serious military-style equipment for even the most trivial of things.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 02:54 PM (EXyHK)
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But they know it when they see it. Right?
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 24, 2025 02:54 PM (YlWIZ)
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What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (abIsI)
Yes and zee Cheese from zee French asshole that zee Americans love! Var! Zis is var!
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 24, 2025 02:47 PM (abIsI)
Yes and zee Cheese from zee French asshole that zee Americans love! Var! Zis is var!
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt!
Posted by: Klaus Schwab, Weirdo and Closeted Homosexual at December 24, 2025 02:54 PM (R/m4+)
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62 I’m not sure why federal employees need natty guard protection in the first place.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Federalized nat guard from the state can perform arrests if necessary.
Regular military cannot unless Insurrection Act is invoked aka martial law.
Posse Comitatus law passed after Reconstruction ended prevents active duty US troops from enforcing civil law without invocation of the Insurrection Act.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Federalized nat guard from the state can perform arrests if necessary.
Regular military cannot unless Insurrection Act is invoked aka martial law.
Posse Comitatus law passed after Reconstruction ended prevents active duty US troops from enforcing civil law without invocation of the Insurrection Act.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:55 PM (WDjG6)
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62 I’m not sure why federal employees need natty guard protection in the first place.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 02:51 PM (f8+Yv)
I seem to remember a Fed Cop shooting an unarmed 'rioter' on Jan 6, killing her, and getting promoted and a medal for it...
Precedent, set.
If I was in a Federal building in Portland under siege from various whack jobs, the first MFer with a molotov gets shot in the face. I’d be out of ammo before noon.
It is not incumbent for anyone to get killed by these clowns.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 02:51 PM (f8+Yv)
I seem to remember a Fed Cop shooting an unarmed 'rioter' on Jan 6, killing her, and getting promoted and a medal for it...
Precedent, set.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 02:56 PM (mP0Kj)
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Fine. Arm to the teeth and modify their ROE.
Posted by: Halfhand at December 24, 2025 02:56 PM (edbiH)
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Posse Comitatus law passed after Reconstruction ended prevents active duty US troops from enforcing civil law without invocation of the Insurrection Act.
How many times are some here going to say "Insurrection Act" ?
If Trump says it now ? It takes less than a day for a Federal Judge to say "he can't do that". And less that a week for the Supremes to convene and say "No He Can't".
How many times are some here going to say "Insurrection Act" ?
If Trump says it now ? It takes less than a day for a Federal Judge to say "he can't do that". And less that a week for the Supremes to convene and say "No He Can't".
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:58 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Ted Lieu - The best way to combat fake news is for people to watch MSNBC because they report real news all the time.
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Dude, it's now MS MAO.
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Dude, it's now MS MAO.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
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I bet a Mogan silver dollar that the Spreem Court will be meeting in a tent on Guam by May 2026.
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 24, 2025 02:58 PM (YlWIZ)
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I think that the issue under US Code 12406 is that the NG can be used to protect federal officers if the Governor of that state agrees to send in the NG, i.e., the President can't unilaterally order the Illinois NG into Chicago, and Pritzker isn't going to help him.
OTOH, if, under 12406 the "regular forces" (in this case, ICE) can't execute the law, President Trump can probably just flood in additional ICE, Border Patrol, ATF, etc, in support of the ICE teams that are being harrassed.
OTOH, if, under 12406 the "regular forces" (in this case, ICE) can't execute the law, President Trump can probably just flood in additional ICE, Border Patrol, ATF, etc, in support of the ICE teams that are being harrassed.
Posted by: Reno_NV_Dave at December 24, 2025 03:00 PM (XTURA)
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To me I do not see this as a win, at all.
Let me rant.
One of the things you notice in History is that certain moments are... preventable. Some aren't. Roman Republic was going to fall. Constantinople.
This feels more like WWII, where if someone had just done something different, things might have been different (primarily, standing up to Hitler earlier.) Instead, it seems as though everything everyone does is tailor made to force an inevitable event (in this case, removing options from Trump, forcing him to amp things up and going more and more towards a confrontation.)
I am not sure this is a bad thing though. The slow blade favors the left. Look at Britain. They are fucked and I am not sure if they have the stones or even understand how... dire their situation is.
Let me rant.
One of the things you notice in History is that certain moments are... preventable. Some aren't. Roman Republic was going to fall. Constantinople.
This feels more like WWII, where if someone had just done something different, things might have been different (primarily, standing up to Hitler earlier.) Instead, it seems as though everything everyone does is tailor made to force an inevitable event (in this case, removing options from Trump, forcing him to amp things up and going more and more towards a confrontation.)
I am not sure this is a bad thing though. The slow blade favors the left. Look at Britain. They are fucked and I am not sure if they have the stones or even understand how... dire their situation is.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:00 PM (bss/y)
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This is what the Illegal Orders kerfuffle is all about.
If Trump sends them then the Media will talk about an INVASION!!! and call the troops invaders and egg the crazies on to violence against them.
If Trump sends them then the Media will talk about an INVASION!!! and call the troops invaders and egg the crazies on to violence against them.
Posted by: pawn at December 24, 2025 03:00 PM (EMg+d)
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If Trump were to withdraw all federal law enforcement personnel from Illinois and allow them to experience the full consequences of their lawlessness, would it be possible to keep that rot contained in Illinois and prevent it seeping out into other states who did not ask to be endangered?
Posted by: Emmie
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Not necessary. Go after teh funders of mayhem legally which are all big Democrats like Soros. Make them toxic and drag out their shell corps that pay for and encourage these illegal actions.
Posted by: Emmie
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Not necessary. Go after teh funders of mayhem legally which are all big Democrats like Soros. Make them toxic and drag out their shell corps that pay for and encourage these illegal actions.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (WDjG6)
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PBS wishes you a Merry Christmas!
PBS News
@NewsHour
The U.S. military has killed more than 100 people in targeted strikes on small vessels in waters off South America since early September.
PBS News
@NewsHour
The U.S. military has killed more than 100 people in targeted strikes on small vessels in waters off South America since early September.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (L/fGl)
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The governor of Illinois must really be some dipshit not doing his job to let this unruly behavior happen.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (nljXp)
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I seem to remember a Fed Cop shooting an unarmed 'rioter' on Jan 6, killing her, and getting promoted and a medal for it...
Precedent, set.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 02:56 PM (mP0Kj)
Me too, I’ll never forget Babbltt, Boyland, Greeson, and Phillips.
Precedent, set.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 02:56 PM (mP0Kj)
Me too, I’ll never forget Babbltt, Boyland, Greeson, and Phillips.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (Slgjz)
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The U.S. military has killed more than 100 people in targeted strikes on small vessels in waters off South America since early September.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (L/fGl)
100 drug dealers and cartel villains? aka A Good Start.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 03:01 PM (L/fGl)
100 drug dealers and cartel villains? aka A Good Start.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (bss/y)
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They need to start hitting Columbian drug boats.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (PIdvu)
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Trump needs to start ignoring the courts.
"Mr. Roberts has rendered his judgment. Now let Mr. Roberts enforce it."
"Mr. Roberts has rendered his judgment. Now let Mr. Roberts enforce it."
Posted by: Bulg at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (77rzZ)
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Siding with Illinois means SCOTUS is siding with some of the stupidest politicians this country's ever produced. Governor Pritzker? Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago???
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (biEYB)
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58 EU Threatens Retaliation Against U.S. After Ex-Censorship Tsar Breton Sanctioned
What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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They could block us from watching the Eurovision song competition.
What else they got? That and fag football.
What are they going to do, cut off our supply of shitty food and crappy automobiles?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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They could block us from watching the Eurovision song competition.
What else they got? That and fag football.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (fsyiM)
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>>
@EricLDaugh
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2m
>>🚨 BREAKING: A judge just UPHELD President Trump's landmark $100,000 H-1B VISA FEE, a stunning blow to the Democrats who want to replace Americans with endless foreign workers.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
@EricLDaugh
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2m
>>🚨 BREAKING: A judge just UPHELD President Trump's landmark $100,000 H-1B VISA FEE, a stunning blow to the Democrats who want to replace Americans with endless foreign workers.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
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Anyway, like I said this morning, they are already in a state of insurrection.
Trump should declare sanctuary cities an act of insurrection against the laws of the United States.
It's not any different than Confederate States declaring themselves a sanctuary for slavery.
But Trump is deathly afraid of declaring an insurrection. Whether is J6 or he fears the deadly escalation, is irrelevant:
He's only delaying the inevitable--he will have to declare an insurrection.
Or lose the nation.
Trump should declare sanctuary cities an act of insurrection against the laws of the United States.
It's not any different than Confederate States declaring themselves a sanctuary for slavery.
But Trump is deathly afraid of declaring an insurrection. Whether is J6 or he fears the deadly escalation, is irrelevant:
He's only delaying the inevitable--he will have to declare an insurrection.
Or lose the nation.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 24, 2025 03:04 PM (HXT0k)
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OTOH, if, under 12406 the "regular forces" (in this case, ICE) can't execute the law, President Trump can probably just flood in additional ICE, Border Patrol, ATF, etc, in support of the ICE teams that are being harrassed.
Posted by: Reno_NV_Dave at December 24, 2025 03:00 PM (XTURA)
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Send in those AutoPen Empire 87,000 new-hire IRS agents armed to the teeth ... to audit the situation.
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Posted by: Reno_NV_Dave at December 24, 2025 03:00 PM (XTURA)
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Send in those AutoPen Empire 87,000 new-hire IRS agents armed to the teeth ... to audit the situation.
/
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 24, 2025 03:06 PM (mcWkK)
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>>
@EricLDaugh
·
2m
>>🚨 BREAKING: A judge just UPHELD President Trump's landmark $100,000 H-1B VISA FEE, a stunning blow to the Democrats who want to replace Americans with endless foreign workers.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
@EricLDaugh
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2m
>>🚨 BREAKING: A judge just UPHELD President Trump's landmark $100,000 H-1B VISA FEE, a stunning blow to the Democrats who want to replace Americans with endless foreign workers.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 24, 2025 03:07 PM (dK+Kv)
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They need to start hitting Columbian drug boats.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (PIdvu)
Colombian. The Columbian drug boats are run by the City of Portland
The thing here is that the boats in the Gulf and the oil tankers are both part of a financial chain to Maduro's government.
from what I have heard, Maduro pays his generals in oil, which is sold overseas and the profits go into offshore accounts where it is easier to launder. Once the oil revenue goes away, the Army is no long pro-Maduro.
The cartel boats are going to Europe, where the money goes into Maduro's accounts overseas, where it is easier to launder . . .
Petro is being paid off, and his terrorist buddies are being paid off, but the Coca paste processing in Colombia is most likely cartel run, not Colombian run.
Trump needs to turn Colombia, not start a war. I think this is the reason that Trump keeps on returning Colombian and Peruvian nationals he picks up instead of interning them where the ACLU can defend them
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 03:02 PM (PIdvu)
Colombian. The Columbian drug boats are run by the City of Portland
The thing here is that the boats in the Gulf and the oil tankers are both part of a financial chain to Maduro's government.
from what I have heard, Maduro pays his generals in oil, which is sold overseas and the profits go into offshore accounts where it is easier to launder. Once the oil revenue goes away, the Army is no long pro-Maduro.
The cartel boats are going to Europe, where the money goes into Maduro's accounts overseas, where it is easier to launder . . .
Petro is being paid off, and his terrorist buddies are being paid off, but the Coca paste processing in Colombia is most likely cartel run, not Colombian run.
Trump needs to turn Colombia, not start a war. I think this is the reason that Trump keeps on returning Colombian and Peruvian nationals he picks up instead of interning them where the ACLU can defend them
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 03:07 PM (rbvCR)
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And you would be in jail before the sun sets. With the full force of the city against you.
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On Federal property? Nope. Take another bonghit. We just need to have the right leadership.
Any local clowns try to get cute, shoot them in the face, too. Way past time to get this party started.
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On Federal property? Nope. Take another bonghit. We just need to have the right leadership.
Any local clowns try to get cute, shoot them in the face, too. Way past time to get this party started.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 03:08 PM (f8+Yv)
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83 To me I do not see this as a win, at all.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I think we get this. It is a loss, so how could it be a win.
But long term, we need the MAGA agenda to stick. That requires a SCOTUS that is solid MAGA, and that depends on the next 2 or 3 picks.
So I am serious when I say that I see it as a win because it reminds Trump of what he has to do for his legacy to last longer than last term.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I think we get this. It is a loss, so how could it be a win.
But long term, we need the MAGA agenda to stick. That requires a SCOTUS that is solid MAGA, and that depends on the next 2 or 3 picks.
So I am serious when I say that I see it as a win because it reminds Trump of what he has to do for his legacy to last longer than last term.
Posted by: Mrs. Santa's unclean sister at December 24, 2025 03:08 PM (fsyiM)
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Ever notice we seem to have a running score board? Oh, hey we won one judge decision here. Doh! Lost that one! *shakes fist*
Fucking insane.
Fucking insane.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:09 PM (bss/y)
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I want to applaud the Supreme Court for this wise decision, reminiscent of the judiciary of my own time.
Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at December 24, 2025 03:10 PM (AWSqF)
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But Trump is deathly afraid of declaring an insurrection. Whether is J6 or he fears the deadly escalation, is irrelevant:
He's only delaying the inevitable--he will have to declare an insurrection.
Or lose the nation.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 24, 2025 03:04 PM (HXT0k)
The most embarrassing thing in the world is to grab the banner and scream, "FOLLOW ME TO TAKE THE CASTLE" and sprint off to the main gate, only to discover it is a one man race.
Trump needs support, and to get that he needs legal standing. And that needs all the T's crossed and I's dotted.
He's only delaying the inevitable--he will have to declare an insurrection.
Or lose the nation.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 24, 2025 03:04 PM (HXT0k)
The most embarrassing thing in the world is to grab the banner and scream, "FOLLOW ME TO TAKE THE CASTLE" and sprint off to the main gate, only to discover it is a one man race.
Trump needs support, and to get that he needs legal standing. And that needs all the T's crossed and I's dotted.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (rbvCR)
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Its been dond by a few Presidents sincd Eisenhower at least but Orange Man Bad I guess
Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (Ia/+0)
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ICE agents in Maryland just shot someone who tried to run them over. I'm sure Raskin will blame the agents
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (2vrAX)
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Any local clowns try to get cute, shoot them in the face, too. Way past time to get this party started.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 03:08 PM (f8+Yv)
This is the problem.
1) We are still in the pre stages of the war. Something we can do can change whether the war will happen.
or
2) The war has already begun and we just refuse to acknowledge that fact- because it is daunting and scary.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 03:08 PM (f8+Yv)
This is the problem.
1) We are still in the pre stages of the war. Something we can do can change whether the war will happen.
or
2) The war has already begun and we just refuse to acknowledge that fact- because it is daunting and scary.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (L/fGl)
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Any local clowns try to get cute, shoot them in the face, too. Way past time to get this party started.
And I get called a glowie. Do what you describe ? Local LEO will take you straight to jail. And no Federal employee will stop them.
You've got that problem many have. This fixation with the rules as you perceive them. Rather than the rules as enforced.
And I get called a glowie. Do what you describe ? Local LEO will take you straight to jail. And no Federal employee will stop them.
You've got that problem many have. This fixation with the rules as you perceive them. Rather than the rules as enforced.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Chicago thugs/blm/antifa//jihadis would disarm that crowd ricky tic.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (Slgjz)
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So, does this order then mean that Federal Troops cannot protect Federal Property? Kinda reads that way.
Because that is the exact Precedent that this sets.
Because that is the exact Precedent that this sets.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (mP0Kj)
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>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 24, 2025 03:07 PM (dK+Kv)
What makes this amusing is the judge who made the ruling: Beryl Howell.
She HATES Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 24, 2025 03:07 PM (dK+Kv)
What makes this amusing is the judge who made the ruling: Beryl Howell.
She HATES Trump.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (zBIzS)
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102 I want to applaud the Supreme Court for this wise decision, reminiscent of the judiciary of my own time.
Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at December 24, 2025 03:10 PM (AWSqF)
In a bizarre way, that does seem to be the stupid shit Roberts is doing. He is trying to award wins to each side to keep his own side preeminent. If things go weapons free, well the supreme court means exactly dick. He goes from being the robed Master of the Universe to just being a guy who likes watching his wife get plowed by multiple men.
Posted by: Zombie James Buchanan at December 24, 2025 03:10 PM (AWSqF)
In a bizarre way, that does seem to be the stupid shit Roberts is doing. He is trying to award wins to each side to keep his own side preeminent. If things go weapons free, well the supreme court means exactly dick. He goes from being the robed Master of the Universe to just being a guy who likes watching his wife get plowed by multiple men.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:13 PM (bss/y)
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>>🚨 BREAKING: A judge just UPHELD President Trump's landmark $100,000 H-1B VISA FEE, a stunning blow to the Democrats who want to replace Americans with endless foreign workers.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Amortized over three years. Unclear myself whether it applies to extensions to another three years. But suddenly, along with the increase in the minimum pay for such (IIRC 65k, suddenly it becomes an annualized cost of nearly 100k per year cost for such H1B's. Plus Trump has not given out more H1B lottery positions (85k per year which is in a congressional statute). Biden exceeded that number on a regular basis. Amount of the application fee went up to nearly $250 too.
Other reforms include that you cannot submit multiple applications for the same H1B worker to get a lottery chance for teh H1B. Hardest hit are going to be Indian tech worker importing companies.
>>Huge win.
>>Americans first. 🇺🇸
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:03 PM (viF8m)
Another Trumpmas miracle. If this is not an annual fee, then such should be considered.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Amortized over three years. Unclear myself whether it applies to extensions to another three years. But suddenly, along with the increase in the minimum pay for such (IIRC 65k, suddenly it becomes an annualized cost of nearly 100k per year cost for such H1B's. Plus Trump has not given out more H1B lottery positions (85k per year which is in a congressional statute). Biden exceeded that number on a regular basis. Amount of the application fee went up to nearly $250 too.
Other reforms include that you cannot submit multiple applications for the same H1B worker to get a lottery chance for teh H1B. Hardest hit are going to be Indian tech worker importing companies.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:13 PM (WDjG6)
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2) The war has already begun and we just refuse to acknowledge that fact- because it is daunting and scary.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (bss/y)
One side has begun. The other is refusing to accept reality and admonishing its allies that "that's not who we are."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:11 PM (bss/y)
One side has begun. The other is refusing to accept reality and admonishing its allies that "that's not who we are."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (dK+Kv)
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Federalized nat guard from the state can perform arrests if necessary.
Regular military cannot unless Insurrection Act is invoked aka martial law.
Posse Comitatus law passed after Reconstruction ended prevents active duty US troops from enforcing civil law without invocation of the Insurrection Act.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:55 PM (WDjG6)
I think a good number of Oregon National Guard were nationalized last February -- in part because they needed the assets for things like forest fires on federal land and the Oregon Gov has a history of not acting because "wilderness land" until towns are burning.
Regular military cannot unless Insurrection Act is invoked aka martial law.
Posse Comitatus law passed after Reconstruction ended prevents active duty US troops from enforcing civil law without invocation of the Insurrection Act.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 02:55 PM (WDjG6)
I think a good number of Oregon National Guard were nationalized last February -- in part because they needed the assets for things like forest fires on federal land and the Oregon Gov has a history of not acting because "wilderness land" until towns are burning.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (rbvCR)
116
Should have happened 5 years ago at 3AM one late evening.
Posted by: Roy at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (BZF07)
117
Thanks for the Nut Punch post.
Any more Nut Punches, today, Ace?
How about we commence with the Baby Jesus stuff?
Thanks for the Nut Punch post.
Any more Nut Punches, today, Ace?
How about we commence with the Baby Jesus stuff?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
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I suppose, in the end, it matters he's trying everything short of the ultimate step. Even if it was clear long since that step will be unavoidable. Sometimes you just have to play the hand out to the bitter end.
Doesn't make it any better, just something that is, I suppose.
Doesn't make it any better, just something that is, I suppose.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 24, 2025 03:15 PM (OUMaO)
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I don't understand why federal officers of ICE cannot be protected by federal assets. Why is this even a question?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (6Bc88)
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110 So, does this order then mean that Federal Troops cannot protect Federal Property? Kinda reads that way.
Because that is the exact Precedent that this sets.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (mP0Kj)
I think what Kav is 'trying' to say is that Trump can, by invoking the insurrection act and sending regular troops in. ace points out that this still means ACB and Roberts will vote with the libs to say that Trump cannot even do that.
Because that is the exact Precedent that this sets.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:12 PM (mP0Kj)
I think what Kav is 'trying' to say is that Trump can, by invoking the insurrection act and sending regular troops in. ace points out that this still means ACB and Roberts will vote with the libs to say that Trump cannot even do that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (bss/y)
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>>>Trump should declare sanctuary cities an act of insurrection against the laws of the United States.
It's not any different than Confederate States declaring themselves a sanctuary for slavery.
It is more like MI and MN declaring themselves Free Soil in defiance of Dred Scott. However it was supposedly solved in 1865
It's not any different than Confederate States declaring themselves a sanctuary for slavery.
It is more like MI and MN declaring themselves Free Soil in defiance of Dred Scott. However it was supposedly solved in 1865
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (rbvCR)
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Also on the Judicial Hit Parade?
Fed Judge says Trump can't strip a Lawyer of his security Clearance... even though he is no longer working on Federal Classified cases.
Another Fed Judge says Trump can't stop funding to States or Cities that are defying Federal Law... ie, Lincoln must support the Confederate States of America...
Meanwhile, Boasberg continues his quest to hold the DOJ in criminal contempt for not bowing to his usurped authority...
Fed Judge says Trump can't strip a Lawyer of his security Clearance... even though he is no longer working on Federal Classified cases.
Another Fed Judge says Trump can't stop funding to States or Cities that are defying Federal Law... ie, Lincoln must support the Confederate States of America...
Meanwhile, Boasberg continues his quest to hold the DOJ in criminal contempt for not bowing to his usurped authority...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (mP0Kj)
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101 Ever notice we seem to have a running score board? Oh, hey we won one judge decision here. Doh! Lost that one! *shakes fist*
Fucking insane.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Inevitable when dealing with the courts. Often there are alternative ways administratively to achieve the same results. Part of teh problem is that the filibuster has effectively gutted our Congress. If you went back to the old talking filibuster rules prior to the 70's reforms, you would get a lot less of them. There is also a way, although it ties up the floor for a couple of months, that you can effectively get cloture in the Senate by exhaustion of the speaker's list--no senator may speak more than twice on the same item of debate.
Fucking insane.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Inevitable when dealing with the courts. Often there are alternative ways administratively to achieve the same results. Part of teh problem is that the filibuster has effectively gutted our Congress. If you went back to the old talking filibuster rules prior to the 70's reforms, you would get a lot less of them. There is also a way, although it ties up the floor for a couple of months, that you can effectively get cloture in the Senate by exhaustion of the speaker's list--no senator may speak more than twice on the same item of debate.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:17 PM (WDjG6)
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117
Thanks for the Nut Punch post.
Any more Nut Punches, today, Ace?
How about we commence with the Baby Jesus stuff?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
Silly, the rum goes in the punch. The nuts are the side dish snack.
Thanks for the Nut Punch post.
Any more Nut Punches, today, Ace?
How about we commence with the Baby Jesus stuff?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
Silly, the rum goes in the punch. The nuts are the side dish snack.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 03:17 PM (6Bc88)
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John Roberts is to the Constitution what Bill Clinton was to Juanita Broadrick.
Whatever the dirt is that the Left has on Roberts, it must be so bad as to approach unholy.
Whatever the dirt is that the Left has on Roberts, it must be so bad as to approach unholy.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 24, 2025 03:17 PM (X+xvk)
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116 Should have happened 5 years ago at 3AM one late evening.
Posted by: Roy at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (BZF07)
Yeah. The Steal is the real opening shot of being outside normal limits. Then the J6 shit, all the censorship pushes, forced jab, Blood Red Speech. They were going all in. I EXPECTED them to try to go full on complete control. But they didn't.
Posted by: Roy at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (BZF07)
Yeah. The Steal is the real opening shot of being outside normal limits. Then the J6 shit, all the censorship pushes, forced jab, Blood Red Speech. They were going all in. I EXPECTED them to try to go full on complete control. But they didn't.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:18 PM (bss/y)
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Could use a nap
Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2025 03:19 PM (Ia/+0)
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I think what Kav is 'trying' to say is that Trump can, by invoking the insurrection act and sending regular troops in. ace points out that this still means ACB and Roberts will vote with the libs to say that Trump cannot even do that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (bss/y)
Doesn't matter. This ruling is a direct contradiction of every action that every President has used the National Guard for.
Hell, they had the National Guard flat out enforcing law during Katrina, and nothing was deemed illegal...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (bss/y)
Doesn't matter. This ruling is a direct contradiction of every action that every President has used the National Guard for.
Hell, they had the National Guard flat out enforcing law during Katrina, and nothing was deemed illegal...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:19 PM (mP0Kj)
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I don't understand why federal officers of ICE cannot be protected by federal assets. Why is this even a question?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (6Bc8
Short answer ? Trump.
But longer answer ? Do any of you hear remember how wee-wee'd up we all got when a few states ... Kentucky was one ... passed state legislation that Obama COULD NOT enforce Federal Gun Legislation within their state limits ?
The Supremes at the time let that go. States Rights !!!
Well. Nobody makes the Fed plop their shit down in your state. The Fed can always pick up and move.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 03:16 PM (6Bc8
Short answer ? Trump.
But longer answer ? Do any of you hear remember how wee-wee'd up we all got when a few states ... Kentucky was one ... passed state legislation that Obama COULD NOT enforce Federal Gun Legislation within their state limits ?
The Supremes at the time let that go. States Rights !!!
Well. Nobody makes the Fed plop their shit down in your state. The Fed can always pick up and move.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 03:19 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Yippie yay kiyee, fornicator of motherhood!
Posted by: John McClane at December 24, 2025 03:19 PM (0sNs1)
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How many times are some here going to say "Insurrection Act" ?
If Trump says it now ? It takes less than a day for a Federal Judge to say "he can't do that". And less that a week for the Supremes to convene and say "No He Can't".
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:58 PM (Xy8Lb)
"How many divisions do you clowns have to enforce it? I AM the CIC. Now, FOAD.
Thank you for your attention to this matter".
If Trump says it now ? It takes less than a day for a Federal Judge to say "he can't do that". And less that a week for the Supremes to convene and say "No He Can't".
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 02:58 PM (Xy8Lb)
"How many divisions do you clowns have to enforce it? I AM the CIC. Now, FOAD.
Thank you for your attention to this matter".
Posted by: DJ Trump at December 24, 2025 03:20 PM (5xuJ/)
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the article and headline are somewhat misleading. The USSC did not accept the DOJ arguments and the law they argued under. This isnt over.
Posted by: susan harms at December 24, 2025 03:20 PM (Kkd7F)
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I think what Kav is 'trying' to say is that Trump can, by invoking the insurrection act and sending regular troops in. ace points out that this still means ACB and Roberts will vote with the libs to say that Trump cannot even do that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They will have to overrule precedent to do it. Scotus held in Martin v. Mott (1827) that the president has exclusive authority to determine whether an emergency warrants calling forth the militia, and that determination is deemed conclusive for all other persons.
So for lower courts, the caselaw is clear, Insurrection act cannot be reviewed in district court. Scotus allows later challenges to specific actions under the Insurrection Act but not to the invocation as long as legal formalities (Proclamations) are met.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They will have to overrule precedent to do it. Scotus held in Martin v. Mott (1827) that the president has exclusive authority to determine whether an emergency warrants calling forth the militia, and that determination is deemed conclusive for all other persons.
So for lower courts, the caselaw is clear, Insurrection act cannot be reviewed in district court. Scotus allows later challenges to specific actions under the Insurrection Act but not to the invocation as long as legal formalities (Proclamations) are met.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:20 PM (WDjG6)
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How about we commence with the Baby Jesus stuff?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
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6h
A complaint was filed this morning against US Senator John Thune - the Republican Senate Majority Leader - to the FEC for Smurfing $1,148,902 into his campaign.
[ . . .]
Political Committee C00409581, FRIENDS OF JOHN THUNE has accepted 3,996 Smurfed donor transactions totaling $1,148,902 from 714 unique Smurfing donors. That these transactions encompass 19.5% of the 20,536 available committee transactions and also being 12.3% of the $9,335,059 full committee transaction valuation.
US Senator Tammy Baldwin - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit filed $36,820,755 criminally laundered
US Senator Lindsey Graham - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit being filed within days $11,090,385 criminally laundered
US Senator Amy Klobuchar - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit being filed Jan 2nd 2026 $9,633,912 criminally laundered
US Senator Elissa Slotkins - FEC complaint filed $16,126,348 criminally laundered.
US Senator Mark Kelly - FEC complaint filed $41,300,637 criminally laundered. [ . . . ]
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
Peter Bernegger
@PeterBernegger
6h
A complaint was filed this morning against US Senator John Thune - the Republican Senate Majority Leader - to the FEC for Smurfing $1,148,902 into his campaign.
[ . . .]
Political Committee C00409581, FRIENDS OF JOHN THUNE has accepted 3,996 Smurfed donor transactions totaling $1,148,902 from 714 unique Smurfing donors. That these transactions encompass 19.5% of the 20,536 available committee transactions and also being 12.3% of the $9,335,059 full committee transaction valuation.
US Senator Tammy Baldwin - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit filed $36,820,755 criminally laundered
US Senator Lindsey Graham - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit being filed within days $11,090,385 criminally laundered
US Senator Amy Klobuchar - FEC complaint filed, lawsuit being filed Jan 2nd 2026 $9,633,912 criminally laundered
US Senator Elissa Slotkins - FEC complaint filed $16,126,348 criminally laundered.
US Senator Mark Kelly - FEC complaint filed $41,300,637 criminally laundered. [ . . . ]
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 03:21 PM (rbvCR)
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Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 03:14 PM (yreN9)
A celebration of baby Jesus -and grown up Jesus- will be commencing for me in about one hour and forty five minutes. A festival service of nine lessons and carols
Thanks for the prayers, folks for those who prayed. I feel well enough to do the service. Thanks, Lord
Merry Christmas to those that celebrate the holiday!
A celebration of baby Jesus -and grown up Jesus- will be commencing for me in about one hour and forty five minutes. A festival service of nine lessons and carols
Thanks for the prayers, folks for those who prayed. I feel well enough to do the service. Thanks, Lord
Merry Christmas to those that celebrate the holiday!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2025 03:21 PM (rZCVI)
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Do what you describe ? Local LEO will take you straight to jail. And no Federal employee will stop them.
———
Then surrendering is the only rational thing, Dorothy.
Where is it written that I have to get incinerated in my workplace by anarchists?
This is not legitimate “protest” or peaceable assembly.
If I work at the Fucking Dairy Queen and some twink is coming up with a molotov, I’m gonna shoot the SOB.
I’m not a “glowie”, this is just common sense. Shit or get off the pot. These are all mostly wannabe revolutionaries. They’ll find something productive to do once they get a whiff of the grape. Guaranteed.
This is all nonsense and wholly unnecessary because of weak leadership and the usual suspects in government.
———
Then surrendering is the only rational thing, Dorothy.
Where is it written that I have to get incinerated in my workplace by anarchists?
This is not legitimate “protest” or peaceable assembly.
If I work at the Fucking Dairy Queen and some twink is coming up with a molotov, I’m gonna shoot the SOB.
I’m not a “glowie”, this is just common sense. Shit or get off the pot. These are all mostly wannabe revolutionaries. They’ll find something productive to do once they get a whiff of the grape. Guaranteed.
This is all nonsense and wholly unnecessary because of weak leadership and the usual suspects in government.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 24, 2025 03:22 PM (SSuxC)
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125 John Roberts is to the Constitution what Bill Clinton was to Juanita Broadrick.
Whatever the dirt is that the Left has on Roberts, it must be so bad as to approach unholy.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 24, 2025 03:17 PM (X+xvk)
You can predict John Roberts actions by understanding his true goal... he is only interested in protecting, and expanding, the Power of the Court system.
Even when they over rule a Judge, it's not because the Judge over reached their authority, but because of some procedural reason...
Never an indictment of a Judge, the Judiciary, or the system...
Whatever the dirt is that the Left has on Roberts, it must be so bad as to approach unholy.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 24, 2025 03:17 PM (X+xvk)
You can predict John Roberts actions by understanding his true goal... he is only interested in protecting, and expanding, the Power of the Court system.
Even when they over rule a Judge, it's not because the Judge over reached their authority, but because of some procedural reason...
Never an indictment of a Judge, the Judiciary, or the system...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 03:22 PM (mP0Kj)
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"How many divisions do you clowns have to enforce it? I AM the CIC. Now, FOAD. Thank you for your attention to this matter".
Posted by: DJ Trump at December 24, 2025 03:20 PM (5xuJ/)
Might as well ask the Golden Scalp Weasel to put down his phone. That is simply not who Donald Trump is.
Donald Trump, one way or another, will obey the courts.
Posted by: DJ Trump at December 24, 2025 03:20 PM (5xuJ/)
Might as well ask the Golden Scalp Weasel to put down his phone. That is simply not who Donald Trump is.
Donald Trump, one way or another, will obey the courts.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 03:22 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Thanks for the prayers, folks for those who prayed. I feel well enough to do the service. Thanks, Lord
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Great news, Fen! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Great news, Fen! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Bulg at December 24, 2025 03:23 PM (77rzZ)
140
Nood
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 24, 2025 03:23 PM (c+QVv)
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The Supremes at the time let that go. States Rights !!!
Well. Nobody makes the Fed plop their shit down in your state. The Fed can always pick up and move.
Posted by: Howdy
No, they didn't. See the recent Missouri case involving a state constitutional amendment that forbid local and state leos from cooperating with federales on gun issues. Lower court and 8th Circuit upheld federal supremacy where states and localities cannot be compelled to assist federal officials in enforcing the law, the state and localities lack the power to forbid their employees from doing so.
Well. Nobody makes the Fed plop their shit down in your state. The Fed can always pick up and move.
Posted by: Howdy
No, they didn't. See the recent Missouri case involving a state constitutional amendment that forbid local and state leos from cooperating with federales on gun issues. Lower court and 8th Circuit upheld federal supremacy where states and localities cannot be compelled to assist federal officials in enforcing the law, the state and localities lack the power to forbid their employees from doing so.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:23 PM (WDjG6)
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>>Whatever the dirt is that the Left has on Roberts, it must be so bad as to approach unholy.
I don't think it's dirt. He's just on the other side.
When Norm Eisen was the ambassador to the Czech Republic, Roberts spent a week living in the ambassador's home while he and Eisen worked on a project to, ahem, improve the Czech court system.
Their is no deep stater more involved with trying to take down than Eisen.
I don't think it's dirt. He's just on the other side.
When Norm Eisen was the ambassador to the Czech Republic, Roberts spent a week living in the ambassador's home while he and Eisen worked on a project to, ahem, improve the Czech court system.
Their is no deep stater more involved with trying to take down than Eisen.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2025 03:24 PM (viF8m)
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New thread up
Posted by: Ann at December 24, 2025 03:25 PM (G2vez)
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Merry Christmas FS!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 24, 2025 03:25 PM (Cjt/F)
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No, they didn't. See the recent Missouri case involving a state constitutional amendment that forbid local and state leos from cooperating with federales on gun issues.
And then see this ruling you like, and this one you don't, and this other one over here you're not sure about.
Its not a consistent set of rules. Its Calvin Ball. Seek to force yourself to see some kind of order in it - if that soothes your mind.
But there is no order to it.
And then see this ruling you like, and this one you don't, and this other one over here you're not sure about.
Its not a consistent set of rules. Its Calvin Ball. Seek to force yourself to see some kind of order in it - if that soothes your mind.
But there is no order to it.
Posted by: Howdy at December 24, 2025 03:26 PM (Xy8Lb)
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Hell, they had the National Guard flat out enforcing law during Katrina, and nothing was deemed illegal...
Posted by: Romeo13
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After Blanco reluctantly agreed to it with Bush. That is in part why emergency response laws on federalization were amended to deal with edge cases like where a local community is overwhelmed by a natural disaster.
Posted by: Romeo13
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After Blanco reluctantly agreed to it with Bush. That is in part why emergency response laws on federalization were amended to deal with edge cases like where a local community is overwhelmed by a natural disaster.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:26 PM (WDjG6)
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Their is no deep stater more involved with trying to take down than Eisen.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I would agree. The problem would be prosecution. Eisen, like a lot of slimy types, keeps on the edge of the law in most cases and delegates to others outright stupidity like to Jack Smith or Fani Willis to implement his legal strategies.
About like a Mafia Don.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I would agree. The problem would be prosecution. Eisen, like a lot of slimy types, keeps on the edge of the law in most cases and delegates to others outright stupidity like to Jack Smith or Fani Willis to implement his legal strategies.
About like a Mafia Don.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:28 PM (WDjG6)
148
Hopefully Hegseth has the right generals in the right places. It appears the Grifter Elite have no interest in surrender
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 24, 2025 03:36 PM (3/XaG)
149
I would agree. The problem would be prosecution. Eisen, like a lot of slimy types, keeps on the edge of the law in most cases and delegates to others outright stupidity like to Jack Smith or Fani Willis to implement his legal strategies.
About like a Mafia Don.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:28 PM (WDjG6)
==
About like the pro-Confederate House and Senate members just before and just after the fall of Fort Sumter.
About like a Mafia Don.
Posted by: whig at December 24, 2025 03:28 PM (WDjG6)
==
About like the pro-Confederate House and Senate members just before and just after the fall of Fort Sumter.
Posted by: mrp at December 24, 2025 04:06 PM (rj6Yv)
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John Yoo at Fox is saying the court requested the WH define "regular forces" before deploying the Guard in the law cited, meaning that Trump might have deploy active duty forces first. The Powerline guys have a similar take, and believe he might be able to invoke the Insurrection Act, which was not presented to the court.
Posted by: msmanners at December 24, 2025 04:54 PM (yv+EB)
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The Windhead City of Chicago sinks deeper into the cesspool
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