Trump Chief of Staff Suzie Wiles Promises That Trump Will Campaign In 2026 Like It's His Name on the Ballot

Which it effectively is. Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed.

President Trump is gearing up to storm the 2026 midterm map, with White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles saying Monday that the president is preparing to hit the trail with the same force and stamina he brought to his 2024 comeback run. Appearing on "The Mom View," a YouTube show from Moms for America, Wiles said Trump is already laying the groundwork to help Republicans hold the House and expand their Senate edge -- and that he plans to do it the only way he knows how: by showing up everywhere.
"I haven't quite broken it to him yet, but he's going to campaign like it's 2024 again," Wiles said with a laugh, describing a president who remains the GOP's most powerful turnout magnet. "All these people that he helps -- he doesn't help everybody -- but for those he does, he's a difference maker, and he's certainly a turnout machine."
Wiles, who managed Trump's victorious 2024 bid, said the White House is deliberately rejecting the old playbook that urged presidents to stay out of midterms and let local candidates dominate the spotlight. Instead, she said, Trump will insert himself directly into the fight -- a sharp pivot meant to energize the voters who showed up for him last November.
"Typically in the midterms, it's not about who's sitting at the White House. You localize the election, and you keep the federal officials out of it," she said. "We're actually going to turn that on its head, and put him on the ballot, because so many of those low-propensity voters are Trump voters."
She pointed to recent Democrat wins -- capped by the shock election of socialist Zohran Mamdani as New York City mayor -- as a warning of what happens when Trump isn't out front driving Republican enthusiasm. "We saw what happens when he's not on the ballot and not active," she said.

Hopefully he'll deploy a "Morning Again in America" campaign of good news.

The national average for a gallon of unleaded gasoline slipped below the $3 mark this week, continuing a months-long trend that's easing pressure on drivers heading into the Christmas season. New data from GasBuddy shows the average price falling to just under $3, fueled by what analysts describe as broad declines across most regions of the country. The update notes the national average is down 17.6 cents from a month ago and 7.3 cents from this time last year, based on more than 12 million price reports pulled from over 150,000 stations nationwide. Diesel prices also dipped, dropping another 5.1 cents to $3.671.
Patrick De Haan, GasBuddy's head of petroleum analysis, said Monday that the country is "now at multi-year lows heading into Christmas" and predicted prices will hold steady through the early weeks of the new year. AAA's latest survey reached the same conclusion, pegging the national average at roughly $2.952 on Monday -- down from $3.001 a week ago and $3.073 a month ago.
Drivers across the South and Midwest are seeing some of the steepest savings. Oklahoma's statewide average sits around $2.36, Texas is hovering near $2.50, and Missouri is clocking in at roughly $2.61. Florida, Alabama, both Carolinas, Ohio, Michigan, Virginia, and Montana have all fallen below the $3 line as well. But coastal blue states continue to stand out on the other end of the spectrum. California's statewide average remains an eye-popping $4.46 -- about $1.57 higher than the national price -- with New York, Washington, Hawaii, and Nevada all posting averages above $3.

🚨NEW: Susie Wiles says Trump will "CAMPAIGN LIKE IT'S 2024 AGAIN" for Midterms🚨

"He'll work very hard to keep the majority ... Nobody can outwork him. So there's every reason to be confident — but we have to actually get it done."@DailyCaller pic.twitter.com/C4GevJYCxH
— Jason Cohen 🇺🇸 (@JasonJournoDC) December 8, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 05:25 PM

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1 I like Susie Wiles. I think she's a smart, no nonsense sort of woman .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 09, 2025 05:27 PM (looXz)

2 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 09, 2025 05:27 PM (rbKZ6)

3 1 I like Susie Wiles. I think she's a smart, no nonsense sort of woman .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 09, 2025 05:27 PM

Agreed!

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 09, 2025 05:28 PM (rbKZ6)

4 1 I like Susie Wiles. I think she's a smart, no nonsense sort of woman .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 09, 2025 05:27 PM (looXz)

She is better by far than any of the traitors he had in the job during the first four years. Good reason that *none* of them are associated with this administration.

The biggest traitors were the three generals he hired.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2025 05:28 PM (uWKK8)

5 And the Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms. I hope Trump will give a nationwide address on this soon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 09, 2025 05:29 PM (looXz)

6 Now if only the GOP will give voters a reason besides Trump to vote for them.
I know, that's crazy talk.

Posted by: Veeshir at December 09, 2025 05:29 PM (n3a/S)

7 "Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed."

Pretty sure he doesn't care.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 09, 2025 05:30 PM (0N4FZ)

8
Trump is going to party like it's 2028.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:31 PM (krQz2)

9 Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed.
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I can't imagine it will be that slow.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:31 PM (azrRX)

10 "Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed."

Pretty sure he doesn't care.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 09, 2025 05:30 PM (0N4FZ)
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It's an empty threat. They won't get 67 votes in the Senate, but Trump will unleash prosecutorial hell on the Dems since he will have nothing to lose.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:32 PM (ZOv7s)

11 Hopefully he'll deploy a "Morning Again in America" campaign of good news.
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Trump is quite good at that. He like to boast, and has quite a bit to boast about.

Unless the AI bubble pops between now and then. If that happens, there *will* be a rout and we'll be lucky to avoid a full-on conversion to outright fascism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:32 PM (azrRX)

12 Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed.
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I can't imagine it will be that slow.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:31 PM (azrRX)
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"Sentence first!" cried Nancy.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

13 7 "Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed."

Pretty sure he doesn't care.
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Yeah, unless Dims in the House want to vote to cut off spending (and ICE is funded through 2028 iirc), there isn't much they can actually do. Impeachment theater is just for yet more fundraising, like 99% of what Congress Critters do.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 09, 2025 05:33 PM (UdiE9)

14 >>And the Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms. I hope Trump will give a nationwide address on this soon.

He's giving one tonight in PA.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 05:33 PM (viF8m)

15 He's technically campaigning tonight in Pennsylvania. Currently, Trump is laser focused on a recent poll that showed a significant number of people are not happy about costs at the grocery store. Instead of turning the other cheek and pointing out that gasoline prices are lower, he's going out into the States and making increased costs the primary discussion point.

That's going to be the main issue in 2026 IMO. And, food distributors as well as manufacturers and retailers are still trying to get back what was lost over the last 5 years.

But, I'm heartened to know that the White House recognizes this very volatile and relevant issue.

Posted by: Orson at December 09, 2025 05:33 PM (dIske)

16 Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed.

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And every other Republican will fold and vote with Dems, you know - the will of the people.

The least that needs to be done is to at least hold the seats Republicans hold now, anything else will simply empower the RINOs.

Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:34 PM (1RAfh)

17 Instead, she said, Trump will insert himself directly into the fight -- a sharp pivot meant to energize the voters who showed up for him last November.
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How long before lefty forums are starting of a chorus of impeaching Trump for using taxpayer money (AF1 and associated operations) for political purposes?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:34 PM (azrRX)

18
Laura Trump was really effective in 2024 when she ran the DNC, she needs to be there again.

Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (1RAfh)

19 How long before lefty forums are starting of a chorus of impeaching Trump for using taxpayer money (AF1 and associated operations) for political purposes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:34 PM (azrRX)
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Or before Boasberg declares that the president campaigning during the midterms is illegal?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (azrRX)

20 California's statewide average remains an eye-popping $4.46 -- about $1.57 higher than the national price.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you "Socialism"!

Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (TN0g+)

21 Now if only the GOP will give voters a reason besides Trump to vote for them.

We don't need to. Watch...

Posted by: GOPe at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (IYMzU)

22 "Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed." - Ace

Yep. I think it is actually worse than that. I see all the allegations, such as committing war crimes, as predicates for Democrat compliant kangaroo court felony investigations, trials, and convictions once he is out of office.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (uv8gn)

23 Instead, she said, Trump will insert himself directly into the fight -- a sharp pivot meant to energize the voters who showed up for him last November.
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How long before lefty forums are starting of a chorus of impeaching Trump for using taxpayer money (AF1 and associated operations) for political purposes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!

Trump should be in the White House running the country, not playing partisan politics.
-legacy media in 3 2 1...

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (MGB5H)

24 It's an empty threat. They won't get 67 votes in the Senate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:32 PM (ZOv7s)
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That's when the Dems launch into an attack against Republicans that won't "do their duty" and have "failed their country" and hope that, with the media carrying their water, it works.

The House vote was meant to be a check on the Senate. The Senate has no obligation to try to convict based on a House vote.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

25 Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you "Socialism"!
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (TN0g+)
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Nah. If it were socialism, there'd be no fuel.

This is good old-fashioned regulatory burden, rent-seeking, corruption and theft.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:36 PM (azrRX)

26 recent poll that showed a significant number of people are not happy about costs at the grocery store"

Then keep democrats from power. Costs are trending down, largely due to reduced transportation costs...

Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:36 PM (XuXeR)

27 If the Dems gain Congress in 2026, Trump should declassify a lot of Swamp secrets and hopefully that dump will demonstrate that the previous other 2 Impeachment Floor votes were bogus.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:36 PM (krQz2)

28 "We saw what happens when he's not on the ballot and not active," she said.

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ok, but we need good candidates too!

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2025 05:37 PM (g47mK)

29 a recent poll that showed a significant number of people are not happy about costs at the grocery store

All we have to do is hold the line on prices. Stay strong, gentlemen! Well, I guess it's mostly women now...

Posted by: Big Food (Gas, Whatever, etc.) at December 09, 2025 05:37 PM (IYMzU)

30 Kamala Harris: "There Will Be Marble Bust of Me In Congress"…"I Am Historic Figure"

What? Historic and not Herstoric?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 05:38 PM (uv8gn)

31 $4.46 -- about $1.57 higher than the national price."

I haven't paid these prices for gas and road use diesel in a decade. It's fantastic.

Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:38 PM (XuXeR)

32 "I haven't quite broken it to him yet, but he's going to campaign like it's 2024 again," Wiles said with a laugh,

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Get him to do what he likes to do and he really likes to campaign. What's not to like?

Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?

Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:38 PM (1RAfh)

33 recent poll that showed a significant number of people are not happy about costs at the grocery store"

Then keep democrats from power. Costs are trending down, largely due to reduced transportation costs...
Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:36 PM (XuXeR)
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I'm weakly hoping that people can remember the period where most of the increase happened, while the administration was orchestrated telling you "inflation is not happening".

I don't have a whole lot of trust in my fellow American right now.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:39 PM (krQz2)

34 >>Then keep democrats from power. Costs are trending down, largely due to reduced transportation costs...

The economy doesn't turn on a dime. It takes a while for new policies to take hold. But as you noted the trend is heading in the right direction.

Where we are today is not where we will be next November.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m)

35 I am not worried about the midterms. The Democrats are beholden to their far left.Lunatic base. They will not be nominating moderates.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (u73oe)

36 Kamala Harris: "There Will Be Marble Bust of Me In Congress"…"I Am Historic Figure"

What? Historic and not Herstoric?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 05:38 PM (uv8gn)

Everybody is a historic figure. What you are looking for is the right adjectives to be applied to you.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)

37 Republicans are too lazy to ask for a mail in ballot and certainly can't be bothered to make a special trip to vote on Election Day. My town is supposedly 60+% R and we lost every single local election last month because we just can't be bothered while the ugly no kings harridans are in a frenzy to vote.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (GPa4z)

38 Hopefully he'll deploy a "Morning Again in America" campaign of good news.

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Up to a point. Trump must drive it hard that whatever people have or have regained will disappear in a puff of smoke if Dems get back in.

Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (1RAfh)

39 There is one thing for certain. The GOP will find a way to fk it up.

Posted by: fd at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (vFG9F)

40 I hope they're bots, but I've seen posts of people who say they can't vote for Trump because, concerning the H1B visas, he said Americans were stupid.

I guarantee you, if Trump thinks you're stupid, that's just peanuts to how stupid the Democrats take you to be.

Ya gotta think of what vote gives you a net gain in what you object to.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (krQz2)

41 Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?
Posted by: Decaf

I nominate "Dancing Queen."

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (uv8gn)

42 "We saw what happens when he's not on the ballot and not active," she said.

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ok, but we need good candidates too!
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For what? You don't think we're actually going to *do* anything while we're in office, do you?

Posted by: The GOPe at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (TN0g+)

43 Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?"

You mean "take to #1"?

"In 2024, 46 years after its release, "Y.M.C.A." spent six weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales chart"

Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (XuXeR)

44 Up to a point. Trump must drive it hard that whatever people have or have regained will disappear in a puff of smoke if Dems get back in.
Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (1RAfh)
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He's also good at that. He's boastful *and* vicious!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (azrRX)

45 Now if only the GOP will give voters a reason besides Trump to vote for them.

What we need are verifiable elections, not this "preponderance of mood" stuff that the MFM is starting to concoct.

"I haven't quite broken it to him yet, but he's going to campaign like it's 2024 again," Wiles said with a laugh,

As far as I can throw her...

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2025 05:41 PM (klxjG)

46 I don't have a lot of faith in my fellow Americans--and I don't really have a lot of faith in a republican form of government, by the same token.

That doesn't mean I'm any less committed to making as republic work as much as it can, though.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:42 PM (krQz2)

47
Unless the AI bubble pops between now and then.

Then maybe RAM prices will come down.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:42 PM (pkeXY)

48 Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?
Posted by: Decaf

I nominate "Dancing Queen."
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I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".

Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (TN0g+)

49 hope they're bots,"

They are.

Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (XuXeR)

50 And if 'Morning in America' does not work, bring on 'Tits, Beer and Bacon 2026!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (zZu0s)

51 Now if only the GOP will give voters a reason besides Trump to vote for them.
I know, that's crazy talk.

VOTE GOP - WE ARE LESS LIKELY TO IMPEACH TRUMP THAN THE DEMOCRATS !

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (rgGn5)

52 Then maybe RAM prices will come down.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:42 PM (pkeXY)
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Oh, they would. And fast. Like a falling brick.

This bubble scares me. We're seeing a lot of very familiar stuff, if you were paying attention in the 1998-2002 period. That didn't end well and this is much bigger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:44 PM (azrRX)

53 Ace,

Ed Driscoll is quoting you on Insty.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:44 PM (PiwSw)

54 Then maybe RAM prices will come down."

Well, they do make a decent truck...

Oh. That RAM....

Posted by: man at December 09, 2025 05:44 PM (XuXeR)

55 Then maybe RAM prices will come down.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:42 PM (pkeXY)
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Back to 20 bucks in town?

Posted by: That Guy at December 09, 2025 05:45 PM (krQz2)

56 GOP 2026 - HAVE WE EVER LET YOU DOWN IN A WAY YOU DIDN'T EXPECT?

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2025 05:46 PM (klxjG)

57 Between now and 11/26 Trump should continue to monthly or weekly keep dumping info about the deep state and the Biden administration/ Dems. You might not get a lot of prosecutions but you can expose a lot and keep the Dems off balance. Keep trying to nail the old guard and as they fall they will be replaced by Marxist loons. They are only popular in blue states

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 09, 2025 05:46 PM (D+mpw)

58 GOP 2026 - HAVE WE EVER LET YOU DOWN IN A WAY YOU DIDN'T EXPECT?
Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2025 05:46 PM (klxjG)
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There's a hole with no bottom.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:46 PM (azrRX)

59 Trump is doing more than any Republican President in history to help the down-ticket win.

While, at the same time, the down-ticket Republicans have opposed their President more than any party in history.

This is amazing--by winning he destroys the anti-Republican Republicans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (HXT0k)

60 I hope he keeps winning

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (xcxpd)

61 That's when the Dems launch into an attack against Republicans that won't "do their duty" and have "failed their country" and hope that, with the media carrying their water, it works.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)
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Well, they tried that game twice. I don't think third time is the charm.

I also think this is way too early. Next year the Dems will be working full-time to hate on American, desecrate the flag and basically take a dump on all things patriotic.

They will riot and tear down flags. Not a great way to sway swing voters.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)

62 Does it require a warrant to track cell phones by GPS?

Remember a cell phone is not a phone and wire tap laws don't apply to it. Anyone with a proper receiver can legally eavesdrop on any cell phone conversation because they are actually radios, not phones. So can a law enforcement agency likely talk to a cell phone and ask it where it is without any sort of court involvement? Almost certainly, yes.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (Da7Vv)

63 Ed Driscoll is quoting you on Insty.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:44 PM (PiwSw)

Ed has been trying to get a taste of the furry cock for about a decade now.

Don't tell Garrett.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (zZu0s)

64 I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (TN0g+)

Brian: Ready Steve? Uh huh.
Andy? Yeah.
Mick? OK,

Alright, fellas, let's Gooooooooo.

I may have listened to that song a time or two....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (PiwSw)

65 ... I also think this is way too early. Next year the Dems will be working full-time to hate on American, desecrate the flag and basically take a dump on all things patriotic.

They will riot and tear down flags. Not a great way to sway swing voters.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)
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Perhaps. The smart people in the Party know that this is a bad approach. Next year will reveal how much central control there still is. The Party is not monolithic and there is much potential for fracture over core strategy.

TIme will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (azrRX)

66 I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader

And that little girl in the corner was me!

Posted by: Kamala at December 09, 2025 05:49 PM (klxjG)

67 capped by the shock election of socialist Zohran Mamdani as New York City mayo
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I'm sorry who the hell was "shocked" that New Tard City elected an islamunist plant? Certainly not me, I said he would be mayor the day I heard he was running. Might be the least shocking thing that happened all year.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 05:50 PM (E0p3T)

68 >>Remember a cell phone is not a phone

Who is phone?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 05:50 PM (viF8m)

69 Perhaps. The smart people in the Party know that this is a bad approach. Next year will reveal how much central control there still is. The Party is not monolithic and there is much potential for fracture over core strategy.

TIme will tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (azrRX)
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Sure. NYC will be model of good governance, a model for the whole nation. And Dems will put aside Trump hatred to celebrate the Founding Fathers. And flaming monkeys will fly out of Ace's ass. All equally likely.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:50 PM (ZOv7s)

70 Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?
Posted by: Decaf

I nominate "Dancing Queen."
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I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (TN0g+)

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I love Ballroom Blitz but they are British and I think half of them are dead. It needs to be an American band or artists who are alive and able to take advantage of it.

Posted by: Decaf at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (1RAfh)

71 Trump needs to kiss and make up with Musk. Bring some of that sweet sweet space money to primary RINO cocksuckers right into the ionosphere.

PT: The cause of death for Mitt Romney’s sister-in-law was revealed on Tuesday: Carrie Elizabeth died by suicide, the LA County Medical Examiner said.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (abIsI)

72
Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms.

What does the government to about affordability?
Make sure the customer has more spending money and/or make sure the goods are cheaper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (pkeXY)

73 And the Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms.

The arsonists complaining about the fire.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (9Hs2w)

74 Perhaps. The smart people in the Party know that this is a bad approach. Next year will reveal how much central control there still is. The Party is not monolithic and there is much potential for fracture over core strategy.

TIme will tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Pre-arranged stock market crash? Mebbe just a small one, big enough to use for propaganda purposes, but not the big one coming in 2028.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (mlg/3)

75 I may have listened to that song a time or two....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (PiwSw)

Oh, so you think YOU'RE the passionate one?

Posted by: Doof at December 09, 2025 05:52 PM (VSgUG)

76 Sure. NYC will be model of good governance, a model for the whole nation. And Dems will put aside Trump hatred to celebrate the Founding Fathers. And flaming monkeys will fly out of Ace's ass. All equally likely.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:50 PM (ZOv7s)
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There is pretty big space between "don't go fully insane anti-America and anti-Normality with riots and terrorism" and "put aside Trump hatred to celebrate the Founding Fathers."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:52 PM (azrRX)

77
Brian: Ready Steve? Uh huh.
Andy? Yeah.
Mick? OK,

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (PiwSw)
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No, You Don't

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:53 PM (krQz2)

78 Well, they tried that game twice. I don't think third time is the charm.

I also think this is way too early. Next year the Dems will be working full-time to hate on American, desecrate the flag and basically take a dump on all things patriotic.

They will riot and tear down flags. Not a great way to sway swing voters.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)

I think the current Dems are too incoherent to have a constant message. You have neocons, leftists, antisemites and the woke brigade all pulling in different directions. Look at the Crockett thing - if she's such a star why waste her on losing in the Primary or General in Texas?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:53 PM (8avO+)

79 The Dem voters are pathetic victims of mind control. Their candidates are literally running on nothing. They have no policies that aren't on the wrong side of the 80/20 split. But the army of zombies with pristine hymens will be out in force.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (GPa4z)

80 What does the government to about affordability?
Make sure the customer has more spending money and/or make sure the goods are cheaper.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (pkeXY)
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It can lower interest rates, which is why Powell won't do it. If he doesn't lower them, Trump should fire him, relying on SCOTUS, which is going to find the executive has that power and will put a stay on him working until their other opinion comes out.

I think Trump has been planning on this for a while.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (ZOv7s)

81 I will say, he is sending texts and emails out for donations like he's running for sure. As much as he did leading up to his presidential runs. Really spooled up in the past week.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (3uBP9)

82 There's a non-zero chance that if the Dems win in 2026, we're the UK by 2030.

Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (krQz2)

83 Pre-arranged stock market crash? Mebbe just a small one, big enough to use for propaganda purposes, but not the big one coming in 2028.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (mlg/3)
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Don't bet on it. Nobody has enough power for that, and it's unlikely that anyone who *did* would be stupid enough to use it. The capital markets are really, really big and screwing with them is exceedingly dangerous - especially when everything is on a precipice anyway. Stocks in particular are primed for a major downturn. There's no way to engineer a "small" downturn when there's this much overhang.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (azrRX)

84 I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025

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I loved it when Mitsubishi used it for their TV commercials. Mitsu always seemed to have pretty savvy marketing.

Unfortunately, on the channels I watch now over-the-air, everything is about Medicare Advantage plans, Hurry-Canes, phones with closed captioning, and incontinence products. Do car companies still have ads? Any good ones?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

85

I'm your yankee doodle dandy in a gold Rolls Royce
I wanna be elected

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (pkeXY)

86 Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms.

What does the government to about affordability?
Make sure the customer has more spending money and/or make sure the goods are cheaper.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (pkeXY)

Well Trump could roll back tariffs on Argentine Beef or something in an instant

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

87 Kamala Harris: "There Will Be Marble Bust of Me In Congress"…"I Am Historic Figure"

What? Historic and not Herstoric?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 05:38 PM (uv8gn)

Everybody is a historic figure. What you are looking for is the right adjectives to be applied to you.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)
****
Maybe marble dildo of Willie Brown's schlonge because she's his fault.

Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2025 05:55 PM (1pB37)

88 Trump's song should be The Ramones' Today Your Love Tomorrow the World.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at December 09, 2025 05:55 PM (wBaIH)

89 What does the government to about affordability?
Make sure the customer has more spending money and/or make sure the goods are cheaper.

So they import tens of millions more Takers which dramatically increases demand on housing, food, transportation, medical, education, municipal services, utilities.

Then confiscates through taxation and inflation the spending money of the Producers who now pay much higher prices with less money on the things being gifted to the Parasites.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 05:55 PM (9Hs2w)

90 nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025

I liked when Tia Carrere sang it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 09, 2025 05:55 PM (MGB5H)

91 There's a non-zero chance that if the Dems win in 2026, we're the UK by 2030.
Posted by: Axeman at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (krQz2)
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Never. Not possible. Far more likely to be 1990s Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:56 PM (ZOv7s)

92 I hope they're bots, but I've seen posts of people who say they can't vote for Trump because, concerning the H1B visas, he said Americans were stupid.
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I mean ...
If that's on X it's a simple click to tell.

But, recall there were even here, prior to the last election, that were swearing, they just could not vote for Trump because he refused to support a nationwide ban on abortion.

Or, to clarify:
100% of the "people" claiming now--especially after 4 years of Biden--that they no longer support Trump, are Fuentes Bots sucking Donkey Dick.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 09, 2025 05:56 PM (HXT0k)

93 Unfortunately, on the channels I watch now over-the-air, everything is about Medicare Advantage plans, Hurry-Canes, phones with closed captioning, and incontinence products. Do car companies still have ads? Any good ones?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

No, at best they are drone flights at the most boring angle of some big boxxy thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

94 Well Trump could roll back tariffs on Argentine Beef or something in an instant

Its an obscenity that slabs of untrimmed brisket are running $5/lb

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (9Hs2w)

95 What does the government to about affordability?
Make sure the customer has more spending money and/or make sure the goods are cheaper.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2025 05:51 PM (pkeXY)
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It can lower interest rates, which is why Powell won't do it.
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Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (vSvIl)

96 I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:43 PM (TN0g+)

Brian: Ready Steve? Uh huh.
Andy? Yeah.
Mick? OK,

Alright, fellas, let's Gooooooooo.

I may have listened to that song a time or two....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 09, 2025 05:48 PM (PiwSw)
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Its such an epic song, and the start you quoted is as creative as anything in pop/rock history. Even the drum line that was playing under that banter was just perfect.

Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (TN0g+)

97 I like Susie Wiles. I think she's a smart, no nonsense sort of woman .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 09, 2025 05:27 PM (looXz)

The major criticism I have heard of her is that she is trying to run the national campaign like it was a Florida campaign.

I was listening to a critique of pres Milei's campaign in Argentina this year, how the early loss in Buenos Aires province had Milei dump his staid campaign staff and get a younger cadre and blew the Kirchnerites out of the water. I am hoping Trump can get his crew to think on their feet.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 05:58 PM (rbvCR)

98 Democrats will be bleating about "affordability" from now until the midterms.

Put yourself in their shoes a moment.

You're trying to dilate your suppurating wound so your surgically maimed "genitals" don't "heal" and close your beautiful artificial boypussy forever. And inflation has made your mangina very expensive to maintain. It's almost unaffordable to maintain the thin charade that you've become a woman. That clerk at GameStop won't even call you ma'am.

You know this is Drumpf's fault, right?

Posted by: Right? at December 09, 2025 05:58 PM (neVb2)

99 Lol
Do House Reps in races that they won by single digits in 2024 really want that ?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 09, 2025 05:58 PM (KLQUC)

100 Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (vSvIl)
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Artificially lowering interest rates worsens affordability. It may briefly increase "payability," but it's fleeting.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (azrRX)

101 7 "Trump's impeachment begins one minute after a new Democrat House is installed."

Pretty sure he doesn't care.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 09, 2025 05:30 PM (0N4FZ)

So why is he campaigning?

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (rQwsY)

102 what's all this hype about gas being under $3? We're teasing $2 now.

Posted by: DanMan at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (8uzBS)

103 Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (vSvIl)
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What, like a car or house?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (ZOv7s)

104 Will he choose another another 70s song to populize?
Posted by: Decaf

I nominate "Dancing Queen."
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I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".
Posted by: Crusader
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I love Ballroom Blitz but they are British and I think half of them are dead. It needs to be an American band or artists who are alive and able to take advantage of it.
Posted by: Decaf

"We Are Family" Sister Sledge

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (uv8gn)

105 Do car companies still have ads?

Chevrolet had a nice four minute pro-family Christmas advertisement on their Suburbans..

I think that ad buys are in the form of paying influencers and video reviewers to gush about how great the XYZ model is.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (9Hs2w)

106 Look at the Crockett thing - if she's such a star why waste her on losing in the Primary or General in Texas?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:53 PM (8avO+)

Need to keep black women fully on the plantation, especially with muzzies, trannies and probably some white men being so high on the stack for now.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (E0p3T)

107 Tax Holiday.

Trump wants to affect affordability?

Institute an Income Tax Holiday.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (TR2dy)

108 Whoever the GOP candidates are, the inter webs will be flooded with “they’re weak on the second amendment.”

Ayn Rand was right.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (zqeQL)

109 94 Well Trump could roll back tariffs on Argentine Beef or something in an instant

Its an obscenity that slabs of untrimmed brisket are running $5/lb
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (9Hs2w)

But tariffs are harmless and wonderful!!!

Posted by: Anti-freedom AoS posters at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (rQwsY)

110 No, You Don't
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Another GREAT song from the same album. That one didn't get the airplay it should have, but Pat Benatar liked enough to record a cover of it.

Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (TN0g+)

111 If the Fed has any say, inflation is going to be a big problem in 2026. They ended QT and multiple interest rate cuts are on the agenda.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (GPa4z)

112 So why is he campaigning?

Because he loves America and MAGA.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:01 PM (9Hs2w)

113 You're trying to dilate your suppurating wound so your surgically maimed "genitals" don't "heal" and close your beautiful artificial boypussy forever. And inflation has made your mangina very expensive to maintain. It's almost unaffordable to maintain the thin charade that you've become a woman. That clerk at GameStop won't even call you ma'am.

You know this is Drumpf's fault, right?
Posted by: Right? at December 09, 2025 05:58 PM (neVb2)

You are behind the times. It's gonna be the Jews' fault. Most of the factions can agree on that.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 06:01 PM (8avO+)

114 So why is he campaigning?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (rQwsY)
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Gosh, because maybe a GOP majority might actually pass bills he wants. Lots of reasons to do it. Impeachment fears are way down the list.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (ZOv7s)

115 The Dem voters are pathetic victims of mind control. Their candidates are literally running on nothing. They have no policies that aren't on the wrong side of the 80/20 split. But the army of zombies with pristine hymens will be out in force.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (GPa4z)

What do Republicans offer?

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (E0p3T)

116 The Pennsylvania rally has started.

>>@RapidResponse47
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1m
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>>@SecScottBessent in Pennsylvania: "This is a formula for prosperity: lowering prices, raising incomes... The benefits of [President Trump's] agenda are now rippling through the economy — and those ripples will become waves as his agenda gathers force in 2026."

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (viF8m)

117 Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (vSvIl)[/io]

Lowering the interest rates increases inflation. If you want to see .25 cent candy bars ever again, then low interest rates are not your friend.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (rbvCR)

118 I nominate "Ballroom Blitz".

https://tinyurl.com/4uvedrp2

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (abIsI)

119 >>> Unfortunately, on the channels I watch now over-the-air, everything is about Medicare Advantage plans, Hurry-Canes, phones with closed captioning, and incontinence products. Do car companies still have ads? Any good ones?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

No, at best they are drone flights at the most boring angle of some big boxxy thing.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

Sometimes I worry that the ads on the HQ, the ones about cleaning all your rain gutters, and alternatives to "the little blue pill" both have the same solution. But what really keeps me up at night is that this is a secret message being delivered to me, and humanity's last greatest hope, might actually be my very own penis. It's a terrible burden.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (3uBP9)

120 The basic problem the Democrats face is something I used to point out to dancers when I was a bouncer working at several topless bars. "The structural properties of Bull Shit are very poor. When you build your life out of Bull Shit - your life is going to stink".

Everything the Democrats do is Bull Shit - thus their party stinks, and the smell is bad enough that even low info voters are starting to smell it.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (Da7Vv)

121 But tariffs are harmless and wonderful!!!

It was running over $4.50/lb in 2024

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (9Hs2w)

122 105 Do car companies still have ads?

Chevrolet had a nice four minute pro-family Christmas advertisement on their Suburbans..

I think that ad buys are in the form of paying (fake word) and video reviewers to gush about how great the XYZ model is.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:00 PM (9Hs2w)

Once again I see Subaru is not a car manufacturer but is instead the United Way.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (rQwsY)

123 When I first heard "Ballroom Blitz" on AM radio all those years ago, I thought it might be "Barroom Blitz." Which makes as much sense as "Ballroom."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9)

124 Can some of the PermaDoomers just look back a mere 9 months ago, when the Dems were "riding high" on the price of eggs?

I mean, my local taco shop had posted multiple news articles all in the vein of "why the price of eggs will never come down."

Dems were in front of every microphone they could find.
They were winning the airways!
They were going to something something, and Trump resigns!

How'd that work out?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 09, 2025 06:03 PM (HXT0k)

125 Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 05:57 PM (vSvIl)
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What, like a car or house?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 05:59 PM (ZOv7s)

Yes. Among other things, since we foolishly allow 'credit' for pretty much everything.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:03 PM (vSvIl)

126 Look at the Crockett thing - if she's such a star why waste her on losing in the Primary or General in Texas?

The demons in Hell have selected her for some reason.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:04 PM (9Hs2w)

127 It was running over $4.50/lb in 2024
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (9Hs2w)

It is your patriotic duty to pay higher prices for everyday things. Now pay up, or do you want to be a traitor to your country?

Posted by: Principled Anti-freedom AoS posters at December 09, 2025 06:04 PM (rQwsY)

128 Yes. Among other things, since we foolishly allow 'credit' for pretty much everything.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:03 PM (vSvIl)
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So...no buying a house until you save up for it? Cash only transactions or loans with high interest rates? Is this your path for prosperity and assuring GOP victory?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

129 >>> When I first heard "Ballroom Blitz" on AM radio all those years ago, I thought it might be "Barroom Blitz." Which makes as much sense as "Ballroom."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9)

It's not?

Posted by: Chinese Karaoke Singers singing Barroom Britz at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (3uBP9)

130 Do car companies still have ads?
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Chevrolet had a nice four minute pro-family Christmas advertisement on their Suburbans..

I think that ad buys are in the form of paying influencers and video reviewers to gush about how great the XYZ model is.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025

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Come to think of it, I have seen ones for Buick -- their latest all-SUV lineup. If it hadn't been for the triple-shield badge on the front of the vehicle in the ad, I wouldn't have recognized the brand until they said it. Their SUVs look just like GMCs or Cadillac SUVs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (wzUl9)

131 What do Republicans offer?
Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (E0p3T)

Supposedly closed borders with mass deportations, no wars, more responsible spending, a sensible energy policy...

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (GPa4z)

132 Lowering the interest rates increases inflation. If you want to see .25 cent candy bars ever again, then low interest rates are not your friend.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (rbvCR)

Depends on the situation.

To truly see 25 cent candy bars again…pay down the debt. Which reduces the amount of dollars in circulation, which makes the dollar more precious, and so on.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (rQwsY)

133 >>It is your patriotic duty to pay higher prices for everyday things. Now pay up, or do you want to be a traitor to your country?

I don't know where some of you live but prices on virtually everything including groceries around here are down.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (viF8m)

134
Supposedly closed borders with mass deportations, no wars, more responsible spending, a sensible energy policy...
Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (GPa4z)

No wars, huh?

The Enemy Gets A Vote.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (rQwsY)

135 Sometimes I worry that the ads on the HQ, the ones about cleaning all your rain gutters, and alternatives to "the little blue pill" both have the same solution. But what really keeps me up at night is that this is a secret message being delivered to me, and humanity's last greatest hope, might actually be my very own penis. It's a terrible burden.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (3uBP9)

I don't want to add to your cares, but I sometimes have the same worry:

Is Banana Dream's banana are last best hope?

Posted by: guy who banana dream should take out a restraining order against at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (neVb2)

136 Sometimes I worry that the ads on the HQ, the ones about cleaning all your rain gutters, and alternatives to "the little blue pill" both have the same solution. But what really keeps me up at night is that this is a secret message being delivered to me, and humanity's last greatest hope, might actually be my very own penis. It's a terrible burden.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (3uBP9)

ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN ONES. YOU HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM BRUTALITY TO KILL THE BURTALS WHO MULTIPLY, AND ARE LEGION. TO THIS END ZARDOZ YOUR GOD GAVE YOU THE GIFT OF THE GUN. THE GUN IS GOOD. THE PENIS IS EVIL

Posted by: ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (rbvCR)

137 I hope so, backing MAGA candidates

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (Ia/+0)

138 Lowering interest rates doesn't make anything more affordable, it just makes it mildly less painful to go into debt in order to have the things you can't afford.

But manufacturers borrow money in order to make contracts and purchase materials, labor, equipment and real-estate.

Also high interest rates attract bond and treasury investors away from stocks with mild returns.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:08 PM (9Hs2w)

139 Doom and gloom takes so many different forms.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)

140 No wars, huh?

The Enemy Gets A Vote.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (rQwsY)
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Given that even when we were attacked, we decided to go kick off a bunch of other unrelated wars, I'd say we've met the enemy and he is us in that respect.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (ZOv7s)

141 Everything the Democrats do is Bull Shit - thus their party stinks, and the smell is bad enough that even low info voters are starting to smell it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (Da7Vv)

Yet they stay afloat because they get to run against Republicans who only we seem to think are better, and that's on odd days only when we're not complaining about what bullshitting lying traitorous cocksuckers they are.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (E0p3T)

142 But what really keeps me up at night is that this is a secret message being delivered to me, and humanity's last greatest hope, might actually be my very own penis. It's a terrible burden.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 06:02 PM (3uBP9)

This also is what keeps the Paolo up at night, but in a different way...

Posted by: The Paolo at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (PiwSw)

143 Whats a burtal?

Posted by: I gotta ask at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (XQo4F)

144 what's all this hype about gas being under $3? We're teasing $2 now.
Posted by: DanMan at December 09, 2025

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I've seen $2.19 in Da Swamp in one or two places. Most seem to hover around $2.49, with some Chevrons and Sunocos at $2.79.

The suburban convenience store where I get my $2.99 ethanol-free gas has $2.19 for E10 regular. I may do a 50/50 split fillup tomorrow or this weekend.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (wzUl9)

145 No wars, huh?

The Enemy Gets A Vote.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (rQwsY)

The key to peace is not having any enemies. Let's kill them.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (GPa4z)

146 Oops! Gotta go slop the feline hogs!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2025 06:10 PM (wzUl9)

147
I don't know where some of you live but prices on virtually everything including groceries around here are down.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (viF8m)

Depends on what you buy.

The beef is still high but other things are…not bad. I buy lots of store brands anyway as a hedge against all this. No need to buy Minute Brand Instant Rice when I can get a store brand from HEB or Wally World cheaper.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:10 PM (rQwsY)

148 Doom and gloom takes so many different forms.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)
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Anyone remember that Very Conservative Army Guy who thought Trump was losing the military and needed to back off but who vanished when Joe glorified trannies and used unlawful vaccine requirements to kick 40,000 GIs out? Yeah, the military *loved* that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:10 PM (ZOv7s)

149 ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN ONES. YOU HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM BRUTALITY TO KILL THE BURTALS WHO MULTIPLY, AND ARE LEGION. TO THIS END ZARDOZ YOUR GOD GAVE YOU THE GIFT OF THE GUN. THE GUN IS GOOD. THE PENIS IS EVIL
Posted by: ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU at December 09, 2025 06:07 PM (rbvCR)

Arthur, what did we ever do to you?

Posted by: Ron and Emily Burtal at December 09, 2025 06:10 PM (PiwSw)

150 I'm still trying to understand how people can't afford housing. They can't afford the $2M house they grew up in but I'm thinking they could afford a $400K house outside the county line somewhere. If the average college grad salary is $70K and you're not an autistic brony weirdo maybe you meet a life partner and double that 70 to 140 per year. Seems doable but you gotta not be a weirdo.

Posted by: NCKate at December 09, 2025 06:11 PM (uQzkA)

151 Does anybody know what topic Ace used for this post? Does it matter?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 06:11 PM (uv8gn)

152 We don't realize what everyday people see when they look at Republicans. It's not good. Like it or not, Trump has carried this party for a decade through sheer force of will. Without him we would have been floundering with the Jebs and Carly Fiorinas of the world.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (E0p3T)

153 So...no buying a house until you save up for it? Cash only transactions or loans with high interest rates? Is this your path for prosperity and assuring GOP victory?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

If we're serious about making homes affordable, banning mortgages is the only way to really do it. You have to end the excess money that is artificially available for purchases and let supply and demand run their course.

I get that people are accustomed to the way things are currently done, financing everything, but that isn't mathematically sustainable.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (vSvIl)

154 Yet they stay afloat because they get to run against Republicans who only we seem to think are better, and that's on odd days only when we're not complaining about what bullshitting lying traitorous cocksuckers they are.
Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (E0p3T)
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Cheating. They stay afloat by cheating. Rampant, massive cheating. Why are so many blue states fighting federal lawsuits demanding the voter rolls? Because they have to hide the cheating.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (ZOv7s)

155 The key to peace is not having any enemies. Let's kill them.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (GPa4z)

Not that either.

I’m not a naive hippie dippy, who thinks we can just have “no wars”, BUT the can be avoided by:
1) Peace Through Strength
2) Deterrence. Si desiderat pacem, praeparat bellum.
3) DIME

We don’t need to kill all our enemies. Just make sure they live in fear that if they fuck up, they might end up dead.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (rQwsY)

156 Well, that answers that question

@michellemalkin 43s
COMING SOON. The return of Michelle Malkin and a new podcast series. #wrongfulconvictions #freedanielholtzclaw #freeraymullins #CORRUPTAHOMA

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (mlg/3)

157
It blew my mind during the campaign last year when I found out Suzie Wiles was Pat Summerall's daughter.

Just hearing old recordings of his voice, and I'm instantly back in the '80s, Thanksgiving or other holiday, and there's a game on, and All is Well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (w6EFb)

158 If we're serious about making homes affordable, banning mortgages is the only way to really do it. You have to end the excess money that is artificially available for purchases and let supply and demand run their course.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (vSvIl)
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Thanks for playing. God bless you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (ZOv7s)

159
I get that people are accustomed to the way things are currently done, financing everything, but that isn't mathematically sustainable.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (vSvIl)

I guess people rent for eternity then.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (rQwsY)

160 It's entertaining to read what Trump should or shouldn't do.
The most successful person to enter politics and the most successful politician needing my advice.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 09, 2025 06:14 PM (c35xG)

161 Just hearing old recordings of his voice, and I'm instantly back in the '80s, Thanksgiving or other holiday, and there's a game on, and All is Well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (w6EFb)

Hearing old recordings of Pat Summerall’s voice would be coma inducing. His monotone could make the biggest moments in football sound dull.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (rQwsY)

162 Should all loans be banned then?

Posted by: fd at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (vFG9F)

163 So...no buying a house until you save up for it? Cash only transactions or loans with high interest rates? Is this your path for prosperity and assuring GOP victory?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

If Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac come out of conservatorship, then the rules Congress imposed on the process will become much easier, and the demands for paperwork compliance will not be under Dodd-Frank, which will simplify things for small business owners. If loans can be sourced locally instead of at JPMorganChase level then there will be much easier loan agreements since the loans are being handled at local banks for local conditions, not at the big bank level. If the illegals get asked to go home their illegally started FHA loans can be sold to Americans.

If all you do is make rates cheaper, but leave all the barriers to compliance in place, the money goes to the Private Equity and real estate companies who have better credit, lower rates, simpler compliance procedures due to volume, and want houses to rent out to families who can't qualify for loans because of the barriers
"cantillon effect" sucks

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (rbvCR)

164 Its an obscenity that slabs of untrimmed brisket are running $5/lb

It isn't that things are so expensive, its that the dollar isn't worth squat. A dollar and 40 cents worth of 1964 dimes and quarters has an ounce of silver in it, and an ounce of silver sells for more than $61 in today's money. That means the dollar has been inflated by more than a factor of about 42 times since 1964.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (Da7Vv)

165 >>> Whats a burtal?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (XQo4F)

20 dollarsh, schame as in town

Posted by: Sean Connery at December 09, 2025 06:16 PM (3uBP9)

166 143 Whats a burtal?
Posted by: I gotta ask

A fish in the wrasse family. First cousin to a tautog, or blackfish.

Posted by: Slow-Growers, But Taste Good. at December 09, 2025 06:16 PM (oftw2)

167 Hank Johnson (D- putz) thinks we are the Great Satan and the worlds biggest bully. Given that Guam hasn't tipped over, I don't think I'll listen to him

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 09, 2025 06:17 PM (D+mpw)

168 I guess people rent for eternity then.

If you don't have heirs, why not ?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:17 PM (KhyP1)

169 Thanks for playing. God bless you.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (ZOv7s)

Do you not understand that the availability of mortgages forces house prices higher?

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:17 PM (vSvIl)

170 Susie is very effective and she does it all behind the scenes. Most people don't know how much power she has and she doesn't draw attention to herself. It allows her to get things done.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 09, 2025 06:17 PM (VCgbV)

171 It isn't that things are so expensive, its that the dollar isn't worth squat. A dollar and 40 cents worth of 1964 dimes and quarters has an ounce of silver in it, and an ounce of silver sells for more than $61 in today's money. That means the dollar has been inflated by more than a factor of about 42 times since 1964.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (Da7Vv)

And?

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:18 PM (rQwsY)

172 Depends on the situation.

To truly see 25 cent candy bars again…pay down the debt. Which reduces the amount of dollars in circulation, which makes the dollar more precious, and so on.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:06 PM (rQwsY)

Inflation is based on money availability, in our system money is created through debt. So we are arguing the same side of the debate. Stopping money creation stops the bleeding, paying down the debt reduces the "money supply"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:18 PM (rbvCR)

173 >> His monotone could make the biggest moments in football sound dull.

And that's why it was so good. You had Madden there next to him to get all excited. Those two were the Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon of NFL play coverage.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 09, 2025 06:18 PM (w6EFb)

174 @michellemalkin 43s
COMING SOON. The return of Michelle Malkin and a new podcast series. #wrongfulconvictions #freedanielholtzclaw #freeraymullins #CORRUPTAHOMA
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Early this century I followed her closely. She was intense. Got rich. FOX burned her. She got fed up and retreated somewhat.
Quite understandable.
Michelle Malkin, glad you're making a comeback.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 09, 2025 06:19 PM (c35xG)

175 One way to decrease housing costs in to increase supply. This is code for sending all the illegals to where they were just before they crossed the border. It would be a shame if that means having to swim.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at December 09, 2025 06:19 PM (uv8gn)

176 If we're serious about making homes affordable, banning mortgages is the only way to really do it. You have to end the excess money that is artificially available for purchases and let supply and demand run their course.

How do you ban borrowing money from relatives?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:19 PM (9s47C)

177 Michelle's kids are probably grown and she's rested and ready.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 09, 2025 06:19 PM (c35xG)

178 Are Congressional Republicans going to issue some sort of proposals for the 2026 campaign?

So far they are mostly just sitting on their fat asses.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 09, 2025 06:20 PM (Vh9CX)

179 I get that people are accustomed to the way things are currently done, financing everything, but that isn't mathematically sustainable.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (vSvIl)

I guess people rent for eternity then.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:13 PM (rQwsY)

You are a renter if you have a mortgage, except you're stuck doing the paperwork and maintenance.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:20 PM (vSvIl)

180 If we're serious about making homes affordable, banning mortgages is the only way to really do it. You have to end the excess money that is artificially available for purchases and let supply and demand run their course.

I get that people are accustomed to the way things are currently done, financing everything, but that isn't mathematically sustainable.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:12 PM (vSvIl)

If you want to jump right back to a 1933 economy, that's a great way to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2025 06:20 PM (uWKK8)

181 Susie Wiles is a gem.

Posted by: Emmie at December 09, 2025 06:20 PM (FMtrg)

182 Bring back no doc mortgages!

Posted by: Oglebay at December 09, 2025 06:21 PM (GPa4z)

183 Madden could slobber on Brett Favres dick on air harder than anyone else. Or Troy Aikman. Motherfucker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 06:21 PM (zZu0s)

184 Fucking love Michelle. As far as I still know, one of the few good ones. Never bought, never betrayed us. Talented, conservative, funny and awesome. Had plenty of opportunity to fuck us over I'm sure.

The only time I ever watched FNC was when she used to fill in for Dummy O'Reilly on Friday nights in like 2002. Back then I actually believed FNC seemed somewhat conservative because they employed her. Once they got rid of her they showed what they were.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2025 06:21 PM (E0p3T)

185 171 It isn't that things are so expensive, its that the dollar isn't worth squat. A dollar and 40 cents worth of 1964 dimes and quarters has an ounce of silver in it, and an ounce of silver sells for more than $61 in today's money. That means the dollar has been inflated by more than a factor of about 42 times since 1964.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:15 PM (Da7Vv)
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Equilibrium?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (c35xG)

186 "Are Congressional Republicans going to issue some sort of proposals for the 2026 campaign?"

Yes, they are drafting an abortion ban as usual. Look for it about a month out from the election. That and retirements.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (cS1cw)

187 >>Depends on what you buy.

As always. There is always some product or group of products that have individual issues like beef right now but its not indicative of the entire economy.

The vast majority of things at the market are down.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (viF8m)

188
Inflation is based on money availability, in our system money is created through debt. So we are arguing the same side of the debate. Stopping money creation stops the bleeding, paying down the debt reduces the "money supply"
Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:18 PM (rbvCR)

Working quadruple overtime to make something simple EXTREMELY complicated, I see.

You kill inflation by spending money on 1) a good or 2) a service. Government is neither. So spend as little on government as you can get away with.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (rQwsY)

189 Should all loans be banned then?
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All loans to individuals, yes.

Loans to businesses, actual capitalism, is fine, but to individuals, they just create economic inefficiency and financial instability (Every single one has a risk of becoming unpayable, and that adds up the more of them you allow).

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:23 PM (vSvIl)

190 But manufacturers borrow money in order to make contracts and purchase materials, labor, equipment and real-estate.

Also high interest rates attract bond and treasury investors away from stocks with mild returns.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:08 PM (9Hs2w)
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Not labor, unless the enterprise is in a doom loop. If you're borrowing to make payroll, your business is probably failing.

Artificially low interest rates are bad for labor, not good for it. Everything produced has two fundamental inputs: capital and labor. Stuff and work. Artificially suppressing the price of capital (that is, synthetically low interest rates) creates an incentive to change your input mix as much toward capital preference as possible for the business.

Artificially lowering interest rates has similar effects as would artificially raising the minimum wage: it makes labor comparatively more expensive. Artificially raising interest rates has the opposite effect, and disincentivizes capital investment. Nobody knows where the equilibrium point is, but nobody also cares. Government finance must be shored up, so down the rates must go and damn the consequences.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 06:23 PM (azrRX)

191 You are a renter if you have a mortgage, except you're stuck doing the paperwork and maintenance.

Are renters building equity?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (9s47C)

192 178 Are Congressional Republicans going to issue some sort of proposals for the 2026 campaign?
____

Retire and spend more time with the family of lobbyists.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (Dv3i1)

193 Do car companies still have ads? Any good ones?

I don’t remember if it is on YouTube or television but there is one that is basically America, Fuck Yeah that would make me pay more attention to it if I were in the market for a new vehicle. Jeep, maybe? Ram?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (EXyHK)

194 Michelle Malkin was on my blog list back when I followed several sites. I really liked her. I even think I first of Ace from her, but it might have FrankJ on IMAO.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (0aYVJ)

195 Not labor, unless the enterprise is in a doom loop. If you're borrowing to make payroll, your business is probably failing.

Or you are ramping up for Excessmass Season shopping.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (9s47C)

196 Not labor, unless the enterprise is in a doom loop. If you're borrowing to make payroll, your business is probably failing.

There is this other thing... they call them "start ups".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:25 PM (9s47C)

197 "You are a renter if you have a mortgage, except you're stuck doing the paperwork and maintenance."

Made the list.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 09, 2025 06:26 PM (cS1cw)

198 Whats a burtal?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (XQo4F)

ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU. EVEN ZARDOZ HAS TROUBLE WITH TYPOS WHEN THE WEATHER CHANGES. GO FORTH MY CHOSE ONES AND COPY-EDIT

Posted by: ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU at December 09, 2025 06:27 PM (rbvCR)

199 All loans to individuals, yes.

Loans to businesses, actual capitalism, is fine, but to individuals, they just create economic inefficiency and financial instability (Every single one has a risk of becoming unpayable, and that adds up the more of them you allow).
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:23 PM (vSvIl)
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Hard disagree. Capital goods are capital goods. Houses, cars, etc. are capital goods.

The real problem, in my opinion, is treating *all* debt as self-canceling. It isn't. Only collateralized debt is self-clearing. If the debtor doesn't pay, sell the collateral and get made whole. Consumption debt is *not* self-clearing, and capital debt ceases to be if asset value falls.

That is fixable with reserve requirements and marking to market at the close of business every day. If the debt isn't self-clearing (is consumer debt), or if the collateral can no longer clear it, the bank has to reserve it at 100% of the difference. That is, no leverage permitted for consumer debt and reserve requirements go up as asset prices decline.

There will still be a market for consumer debt in that environment, but it will be fairly rare and quite expensive. Like a payday loan.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 06:27 PM (azrRX)

200 198 Whats a burtal?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 09, 2025 06:09 PM (XQo4F)

ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU. EVEN ZARDOZ HAS TROUBLE WITH TYPOS WHEN THE WEATHER CHANGES. GO FORTH MY CHOSE ONES AND COPY-EDIT
Posted by: ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU

typo good edit evil

*spews a deluge of punctuation from mouth*

Posted by: anachronda at December 09, 2025 06:28 PM (sGtp+)

201 Everything produced has two fundamental inputs: capital and labor.

Apparently you haven't gotten invoices from attorneys, payroll management, land lords, product licensing or cloud services.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:28 PM (9s47C)

202 what's all this hype about gas being under $3? We're teasing $2 now.
Posted by: DanMan at December 09, 2025

I just paid 3.64 at the Arco station. Thanks Governor Kotex!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:28 PM (rbvCR)

203 Well if you think we're bad off, I just saw a bit on the once mighty British Navy; their Surface Combatants are now down to 7 Frigates, and 6 Destroyers. And 2 Aircraft Carriers that they're scared to send out of port because they don't have enough other ships screen them. (they might make a decent auxiliary unit for an American Force) And 9 submarines.

that's it, that's their entire Navy now. Italy's Navy is bigger.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2025 06:29 PM (uWKK8)

204 Long ago I liked Michelle, hope she comes back fighting

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2025 06:29 PM (Ia/+0)

205 If they are going to call him a Nazi anyway, he might as well go with Blitzkrieg Bop.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 09, 2025 06:29 PM (6ydKt)

206 Early this century I followed her closely. She was intense. Got rich. FOX burned her. She got fed up and retreated somewhat.
Quite understandable.
Michelle Malkin, glad you're making a comeback.
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Hope you like her comeback--I read that she's entered into the "just asking questions" phase.

Posted by: Crusader at December 09, 2025 06:30 PM (TN0g+)

207 So... what word turned into burtal?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 09, 2025 06:30 PM (zZu0s)

208 Trump should use Roadhouse Blues

Posted by: Accomack at December 09, 2025 06:30 PM (8jVAy)

209 Only collateralized debt is self-clearing. If the debtor doesn't pay, sell the collateral and get made whole

Or sell the IP and patents.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:30 PM (c3sdc)

210 Or you are ramping up for Excessmass Season shopping.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (9s47C)

There is this other thing... they call them "start ups".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:25 PM (9s47C)
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Moreso the latter than the former, but the former can happen. Both require a big capital investment. Both a form of expansion, and both also happen at the margins. The needs of startups to make payroll do not drive policymaking decisions at any level.

I am not anti-capital by any means. Our capital markets made the various industrial revolutions possible. I am opposed to bureaucrats dictating the *price* of capital for the benefit of major financial houses and government finances.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 06:30 PM (azrRX)

211 And?

Ask the people in the Weimar republic or in Zimbabwe what the effects of runaway inflation are, because we are right on the ragged edge of that happening. There are likely going to be serious bank failures next year, because the commercial building loan crises comes due then.

Everybody raised such a stink over bail outs of banks in the 2008 housing loan crises, that they changed the law to bail ins. A bail in is where the bank, when it gets into trouble financially, gets to steal the depositors money to get out of trouble. Don't worry, they'll give you a pocket full of mumbles that puts the depositors at the end of the bankruptcy line as unsecured creditors. That puts you behind the guy who mows the bank's lawn in terms of ever getting your money back.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 06:31 PM (Da7Vv)

212 Is this about me?

Posted by: Yurtul the burtul at December 09, 2025 06:31 PM (XQo4F)

213 That is fixable with reserve requirements and marking to market at the close of business every day. If the debt isn't self-clearing (is consumer debt), or if the collateral can no longer clear it, the bank has to reserve it at 100% of the difference. That is, no leverage permitted for consumer debt and reserve requirements go up as asset prices decline.
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100% is un-necessary. Proper accounting already requires banks to establish an offset account roughly resembling "Allowance for Loan Losses". The regulators are supposed to evaluate the sufficiency of that number and request all documentation that went into the determination of that offset account.

Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at December 09, 2025 06:33 PM (TN0g+)

214 2.59$ at Royal Farms this morning.

Posted by: Accomack at December 09, 2025 06:33 PM (8jVAy)

215 There are likely going to be serious bank failures next year, because the commercial building loan crises comes due then.

There are a lot of institutional buyers like insurance and pension plans. Banks don't like to play landlord unless the bank has their HQ or operations in the same building.

For defined benefit plans, YOU the taxpayer make up for the under performing real estate portfolio. For the insurance companies, they just jack up premiums and tighten the screws on claims.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:34 PM (c3sdc)

216 I'm still trying to understand how people can't afford housing. They can't afford the $2M house they grew up in but I'm thinking they could afford a $400K house outside the county line somewhere. If the average college grad salary is $70K and you're not an autistic brony weirdo maybe you meet a life partner and double that 70 to 140 per year. Seems doable but you gotta not be a weirdo.
Posted by: NCKate at December 09, 2025 06:11 PM (uQzkA)

I did the math on this one from 1965 (first Boomer gets to 20) to today

for Oregon
21,700 cost of house 1965 (average)
Mortgage 5.5-6.0%
Minimum wage 1.25 (Oregon) 1.15 (federal)

you would have to work ~8.5 years to pay for the house if you had no other expenses like cars, gas, or food

484.000 cost of house 2025 (average)
Minimum wage $15.05 federal 7.25 Oregon (not Portland)

You would have to work about 15.5 years to pay for the house if you had no other expenses like cars, gas, or food.

The average age of a new home buyer is around 45. Average age of a home buyer in general is 50.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:34 PM (rbvCR)

217 nood

Gavin

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2025 06:34 PM (3uBP9)

218 You are a renter if you have a mortgage, except you're stuck doing the paperwork and maintenance.

Are renters building equity?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:24 PM (9s47C)

I don't know that "building equity" is particularly meaningful in a system where between that and the stock market, you're just trying to catch a share of the excess money that banks cause by lending and the federal government causes by deficit spending, rather than doing anything of value.

Renters of the non mortgage sort might be saving money under the mattress or somewhere relatively safe, or, maybe, making thoughtful investments in something useful if they're seeking a return.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:34 PM (vSvIl)

219 Everybody raised such a stink over bail outs of banks in the 2008 housing loan crises, that they changed the law to bail ins. A bail in is where the bank, when it gets into trouble financially, gets to steal the depositors money to get out of trouble. Don't worry, they'll give you a pocket full of mumbles that puts the depositors at the end of the bankruptcy line as unsecured creditors. That puts you behind the guy who mows the bank's lawn in terms of ever getting your money back.
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We need an easy to hit eye-roll emoji. FDIC insured deposits haven't changed, other than the limit of insured funds going up over the years.

Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at December 09, 2025 06:35 PM (TN0g+)

220 "Loans to businesses, actual capitalism, is fine, but to individuals, they just create economic inefficiency and financial instability "

Individuals start businesses, sometimes with capital from loans. In my case, I didn't have a business loan, but I did have a mortgage and auto loans that allowed me to invest my own meager capital into a business.

Posted by: fd at December 09, 2025 06:37 PM (vFG9F)

221 that's it, that's their entire Navy now. Italy's Navy is bigger.

So naturally, the EU is telling the US to F-Off we are a bunch of losers and they don't need us.

I would like to test that theory by dropping out of NATO.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 09, 2025 06:37 PM (c3sdc)

222 Can Nooshem bend his knees backwards like a chicken? Cause that…would be…alien.

Posted by: Eromero at December 09, 2025 06:38 PM (raK6f)

223 Equilibrium?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (c35xG)

There were a lot more rentals in 1933 than there are today, that wasn't because young couples liked it

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:39 PM (rbvCR)

224 That is fixable with reserve requirements and marking to market at the close of business every day. If the debt isn't self-clearing (is consumer debt), or if the collateral can no longer clear it, the bank has to reserve it at 100% of the difference. That is, no leverage permitted for consumer debt and reserve requirements go up as asset prices decline.

...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2025 06:27 PM (azrRX)

That would work in theory, if you were starting from scratch. You still have to accept that mistakes will get made and banks will go under (and some deposits lost as a result) from time to time, which folks have generally been unwilling to do.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2025 06:42 PM (vSvIl)

225 You kill inflation by spending money on 1) a good or 2) a service. Government is neither. So spend as little on government as you can get away with.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 09, 2025 06:22 PM (rQwsY)

Inflation is caused by increasing the money supply, either by printing more money than there are assets to back it, or by loaning it out on the promise that it will be repaid.
Your bank does not have the value of the amount they loaned you tucked away in the bank in gold specie, they hold treasuries and loan out on the value on that. They get the treasuries from the Fed, who were forced to take them from the Treasury per the agreement.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2025 06:43 PM (rbvCR)

226 Adjusting for inflation the US GDP in 1964 was actually higher than it is today. Remember, the population was smaller then, 192.8 million compared to 343 million today. Fewer people were producing 20% more than than today in constant dollars. That means the productivity per person today is only 67% of what it was then.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 07:00 PM (Da7Vv)

227 It does not take very many bank busts to clear out the FDIC funds.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 07:04 PM (Da7Vv)

228 Regular was $2.04 in Houston at the Kroger filling station Monday.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 09, 2025 07:08 PM (Da7Vv)

229 Fire her. We will cost us the midterms because she doesn’t have the balls to tell Trump to fire Bondi.

Posted by: Rdubs at December 09, 2025 10:36 PM (9ALg7)

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