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THE MORNING RANT: Periodic Roundup of the EV Follies - 12/08/2025
goals, which effectively served as an EV mandate. It also served to drive up the price of all cars, in part because of the fee that manufacturers of internal combustion (“ICE” vehicles had to pay to EV manufacturers for carbon credits. If you bought a gas-powered car in recent years, your purchase price almost certainly included a premium that was diverted to an EV manufacturer to purchase carbon credits.
That anti-freedom insanity has finally ended. President Trump states that his actions will save consumers $109 billion in the cost of compliance built into auto manufacturing.
“Trump rolls back Biden-era fuel efficiency standards for vehicles” [USA Today – 12/04/2025]
When Never-Trump agitators are complaining about Trump not focusing enough on the economy (by which they mean they want him to roll back tariffs and open the border back up to illegal immigration), remember that what you drive and how you propel it is a pocketbook issue, and this action will save consumers money.
And by the way, have you seen how cheap gasoline is? I’ve seen it at under $2.20 per gallon this past weekend. By promoting “Drill baby drill” we have cheap gas to propel our ICE cars.
President Trump’s actions only roll back the CAFE standards to pre-Biden levels that were set by Congress, but almost overlooked at the time of the One Big Beautiful Bill is that that bill zeroed out all penalties for non-compliance with CAFÉ laws. Auto manufacturers finally have the freedom to build and sell what consumers want to buy.
I’ve been harsh toward Ford CEO Jim Farley and his company’s EV debacle, but he clearly sees now that there is no way forward with EVs, and he is listening to customers and dealers now. Farley was in attendance with President Trump and offered praise.
“Ford CEO hails Trump fuel standards reset as a 'victory' for affordability and common sense” [Fox Business – 12/04/2025]
"What you should know is that this is a victory for affordability and common sense. As the president said, we will be able to offer more affordability on our popular models, and we'll be able to launch new vehicles built in America that are more affordable because of this rule change," Ford CEO Jim Farley said… "Frankly, [the Corporate Average Fuel Economy] was totally out of touch with the market reality. We were forced to sell EVs and other vehicles. We're not going back to gas-guzzlers," he continued. "We have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford, but now customers get a chance to choose what they want, not by what we force on them."Although the CEO of Stellantis (Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep) was also in attendance with President Trump, General Motors’ CEO, Mary Barra, was noticeably absent. She had been an extremely obedient puppet of the Obama/Biden regimes, committing to them that GM would quickly become a 100% electric car company. Despite the change of administrations and customer rejection of General Motors’ EV products, Ms. Barra has still not backed away from that all-EV commitment. I suppose she’s still waiting for permission from her Obama/Biden-era handlers.
While hybrid sales rose 13.6% to 16,301, Ford’s EV sales plunged 60.8% in November. Ford sold just 4,247 all-electric vehicles last month, a stark contrast from the over 10,800 it sold in the year prior.Sales of the flagship Ford F150
“Maryland’s $150 EV charger tax: Unplugging the EV future” [Maryland Matters – 11/30/2025]
The damage falls hardest on low-margin Level 2 stations that drivers rely on daily. Apartment complexes, hotel lots, small retail centers, and office buildings often run these chargers at break-even or as customer perks. A substantial yearly charger tax transforms a goodwill gesture into a financial liability. Many hosts will run the numbers, see red ink, and simply rip out the equipment rather than pass the cost to users or risk repeated red tags for minor violations. Charger hosts lose the incentive to keep stations online. Drivers lose convenient charging options. The public charging network shrinks at the exact moment Maryland needs it to expand.
Due to the dangers, owners are being advised to “park outside immediately after charging and not leave their vehicles charging indoors overnight until the recall repair is complete.” On top of that, customers are being told to stop using DC fast chargers and to limit their battery’s charge to 80%.Range anxiety has always been a major problem for EVs. Telling customers not to fully charge their EVs only worsens that problem. Chrysler / Stellantis is also advising drivers of its plug-in hybrid EVs about the need to park their explosive vehicles a safe distance away from structures. They are also being instructed to not charge them at all. “Chrysler recalls 320,000 SUVs, telling owners to park outside over battery fire risk” [CBS – 11/05/2025]
Chrysler is recalling 320,065 Jeep Wranglers and Grand Cherokees because the plug-in hybrid SUVs' high-voltage batteries could fail, potentially causing a fire while a vehicle is parked or in motion, according to federal regulators. Owners should park the vehicles outside and away from structures, and not charge the cars until they are fixed, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a recall notice. The agency said a fix for the issue is currently under development, but didn't specify when it might be available to vehicle owners.
The fire department first said that two residents were safely evacuated from the home, then later shared that one person had been transported for further evaluation.Here is video of the fire.
Update: Command has determined loss stopped. Hybrid Electric vehicle has been removed from the garage.
— South Metro Fire Rescue (@SouthMetroPIO) December 1, 2025
The vehicle has been covered with a fire blanket and will be towed from the scene followed by a SMFR apparatus
One person has been transported for further evaluation. pic.twitter.com/o6URsbBcjn
According to officials, the call initially came in as a dumpster fire, but when the first district captain arrived at the scene, he quickly realized three vehicles were on fire, another one was in jeopardy, and flames were penetrating the building.I laughed when I read this news story, because “dumpster fire” is the perfect term for everything related to Rivian. Investors were fleeced, and Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp famously threw $1 billion taxpayer dollars at Rivian for a plant that will never be built. But I stopped laughing when I read that a firefighter was injured. “Firefighter injured while fighting early morning fire at Franklin [Rivian] dealership” [WSMV – 11/01/2025] I have several correspondents who are firefighters, and they have explained to me the perils of putting out runaway lithium EV fires, and how ineffective water is for containing such a fire. Firefighters are already putting their lives at risk to protect us all. Driving or selling EVs is a selfish act that unnecessarily makes a firefighter’s job even more dangerous.
Jeffrey Bauer, 54, and Michelle Bauer, 55, survived the initial impact after the four-door sedan slammed into a tree – but were unable to escape the fire because the doors locked them inside, according to a suit filed by their children on Friday in Wisconsin state court. A nearby homeowner who called 911 said she could hear people screaming inside the vehicle, according to the lawsuit.
“Maybell residents report loud explosion at EV charging station” [KDVR – 11/30/2025]
Around 10:40 p.m. on Saturday, residents of Maybell in Moffat County reported hearing a loud explosion, which was followed by a fire at an electric vehicle charging station at the Victory Hotel on Lowell Street.[h/t to Ace of Spades reader “Alpine_Beer”]
Car Complaints reports that a class-action suit has been filed against Ford. The suit alleges that there are 2024 Ford F-150 Lightning models that lack the Forward Sensing System, despite the window sticker claiming that the model comes with it. This is quite concerning given that that particular feature has something to do with safety. Ford’s Forward Sensing System alerts the driver of hazards or objects in front of the vehicle through a series of ‘beeps’ that increase in frequency if the vehicle nears the obstacle.Perhaps Ford should have had actual engineers, rather than climate activists, giving the green light to sell those fraudulently mislabeled pickup trucks. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:00 AM (9bIJg)
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Great follies!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:01 AM (M6rYb)
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Probably not first.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)
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Sploodey
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM (Kt19C)
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And by the way, have you seen how cheap gasoline is? I’ve seen it at under $2.20 per gallon this past weekend.
$1.99 in OKC.
$1.99 in OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM (9bIJg)
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"Frankly, [the Corporate Average Fuel Economy] was totally out of touch with the market reality. We were forced to sell EVs and other vehicles. We're not going back to gas-guzzlers," he continued. "We have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford, but now customers get a chance to choose what they want, not by what we force on them."
How can you say you won't go back to gas-guzzlers in one sentence, and then insist you're going to give the customers what they want in the next? What if they WANT gas-guzzlers?
It sounds like he has not fully embraced the supremacy of the customer.
How can you say you won't go back to gas-guzzlers in one sentence, and then insist you're going to give the customers what they want in the next? What if they WANT gas-guzzlers?
It sounds like he has not fully embraced the supremacy of the customer.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)
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This is quite concerning given that that particular feature has something to do with safety. Ford’s Forward Sensing System...
I think blind drivers have a strong case here.
I think blind drivers have a strong case here.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:05 AM (04KGT)
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A whole catalog of good news, however…. We’re one presidential election from going back to the insanity. You know Gavin Newsom if elected in 28 would go back to the destructive CAFE standards…. Any Dem will do so if elected
We have a reprieve but the sword of Damocles (ie the Dem party) is constantly hanging over our heads….
We have a reprieve but the sword of Damocles (ie the Dem party) is constantly hanging over our heads….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (xT8gx)
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Ethanol-free where I buy it dropped 10 cents over the weekend, but it was still $3.50 a gallon.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (i00+Z)
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I see video out of China practically on a daily basis of lithium-ion battery fires in vehicles, bikes, parking structures, and on the road.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (m6HS6)
Posted by: The Crazy World of EV CEOs at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (bFu5X)
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yeah! EV follies!
Posted by: DanMan at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (8uzBS)
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11 I AM THE CEO OF AN EV COMPANY, AND I BRING YOU...
FIRE...
Posted by: The Crazy World of EV CEOs at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (UnA8+)
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I am the god of hellfire! And I bring you
Fire, I'll take you to burn
Fire, I'll take you to learn
I'll see you burn
FIRE...
Posted by: The Crazy World of EV CEOs at December 08, 2025 11:06 AM (UnA8+)
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I am the god of hellfire! And I bring you
Fire, I'll take you to burn
Fire, I'll take you to learn
I'll see you burn
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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Every time I think that EV Madness has reached its peak, Buck comes along to disabuse me of that notion.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (GWWu1)
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Chrysler is recalling 320,065 Jeep Wranglers and Grand Cherokees because the plug-in hybrid SUVs' high-voltage batteries could fail, potentially causing a fire while a vehicle is parked or in motion, according to federal regulators.
Owners should park the vehicles outside and away from structures, and not charge the cars until they are fixed, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a recall notice. The agency said a fix for the issue is currently under development, but didn't specify when it might be available to vehicle owners.
I'll bet you can pick one up cheap, though. Sheesh.
Owners should park the vehicles outside and away from structures, and not charge the cars until they are fixed, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a recall notice. The agency said a fix for the issue is currently under development, but didn't specify when it might be available to vehicle owners.
I'll bet you can pick one up cheap, though. Sheesh.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (Riz8t)
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And by the way, have you seen how cheap gasoline is? I’ve seen it at under $2.20 per gallon this past weekend.
$1.99 in OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM
I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
$1.99 in OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM
I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (bFu5X)
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I predict another government bailout of Gubmint Motors.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (W7XSX)
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Ford’s EV sales plunged 60.8% in November.
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Getting into Jaguar sales territory.
I hear the guy who came up with the Jaguar ad campaign is available for hire.
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Getting into Jaguar sales territory.
I hear the guy who came up with the Jaguar ad campaign is available for hire.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
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I predict another government bailout of Gubmint Motors.
One of the easier predictions: death, taxes and bailouts.
One of the easier predictions: death, taxes and bailouts.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:09 AM (Riz8t)
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20 I hear the guy who came up with the Jaguar ad campaign is available for hire.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
Only one of them.
The other one, Raw Dong Lover, is still employed for some reason.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
Only one of them.
The other one, Raw Dong Lover, is still employed for some reason.
Posted by: The Crazy World of EV CEOs at December 08, 2025 11:09 AM (UnA8+)
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Off, burning sock.
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2025 11:10 AM (UnA8+)
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My hatred of all things "green" took a booster yesterday:
Shopping at WallyWorld for lightbulbs.
Not a single incandescent bulb.
All LED.
And the max "watt" was 75.
So where you needed one 100 watt bulb before, you now need two 60 "watt" LED.
I don't need to save a few fucking pennies a year--I need to see!!
"Up to 9 years!*" they all glowingly proclaim.
That "up to" is doing a whole lot of lifting. Like, one bulb in 100,000--with an estimated annual use of 1 hour--MIGHT make it 9 years, thus "up to!"
Shopping at WallyWorld for lightbulbs.
Not a single incandescent bulb.
All LED.
And the max "watt" was 75.
So where you needed one 100 watt bulb before, you now need two 60 "watt" LED.
I don't need to save a few fucking pennies a year--I need to see!!
"Up to 9 years!*" they all glowingly proclaim.
That "up to" is doing a whole lot of lifting. Like, one bulb in 100,000--with an estimated annual use of 1 hour--MIGHT make it 9 years, thus "up to!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:10 AM (HXT0k)
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Hopefully now we can get away from 1.3L 3 or 4 cylinder engines with turbos powering cars. When a motorcycle has a bigger engine than a 4 door car, there is a problem.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (N39Ws)
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*considers Teslas in condo parking garage*
Well, fuck.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
That garage was not built for the weight of EVs.
Well, fuck.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
That garage was not built for the weight of EVs.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (M6rYb)
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Another reason for the spike in costs for gas and hybrid cars is that companies were losing so much money on EVs that they had to make it up in sales of profitable cars, like gas and hybrid. I'd love to know how much of the price of a 2025 gas car is really to subsidize EV.
But no worries, Obama and Joey and their cronies pocketed literally billions in the EV scam. Billions. That's all that matters, friends.
But no worries, Obama and Joey and their cronies pocketed literally billions in the EV scam. Billions. That's all that matters, friends.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
$3.16 yesterday in PA. That'll bounce back up to $3.39 for Christmas (it's done that all year). Ethanol-free still over $4. They used to peg it at 11% more expensive.
$3.16 yesterday in PA. That'll bounce back up to $3.39 for Christmas (it's done that all year). Ethanol-free still over $4. They used to peg it at 11% more expensive.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (04KGT)
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You've really got to shop around on gasoline as prices fall - yesterday I saw one place at $2.69, then one at $2.45, then one at $2.33, and finally bought at the Walmart station for $2.09.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK8)
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Governmental interference in the market is alive and well at the state level.
Colorado PUC targets natural gas in forced march to electrification
https://is.gd/cyzF0E
Colorado PUC targets natural gas in forced march to electrification
https://is.gd/cyzF0E
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (Riz8t)
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Yippee! My Favorite! A Buck Thread with conflagration photos AND video! Woo Hoo!
Posted by: Fire Bug Fred at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (oftw2)
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29 You've really got to shop around on gasoline as prices fall - yesterday I saw one place at $2.69, then one at $2.45, then one at $2.33, and finally bought at the Walmart station for $2.09.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK
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Cheapest I see in NC is usually $2.59.
Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK
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Cheapest I see in NC is usually $2.59.
Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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Cheap gas will help kill EVs, at least until the Dems get back in power.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (vFG9F)
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NY Times: Paris Fashion Week introduced clothes that hid, confined, muzzled or even erased the women beneath. Some off-putting, sometimes cruel designs left our fashion critic wondering: What is the purpose of women’s fashion? https://nyti.ms/4q306Hg
Just preparing for their Muslim overlords...the invasion WILL be televised...and clothed.
Just preparing for their Muslim overlords...the invasion WILL be televised...and clothed.
Posted by: LizLem at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (gWBY1)
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28 I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
$3.16 yesterday in PA. That'll bounce back up to $3.39 for Christmas (it's done that all year). Ethanol-free still over $4. They used to peg it at 11% more expensive.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (04KGT)
PA currently has the 3rd highest Gas Tax in the nation.
It had been 2nd.
$3.16 yesterday in PA. That'll bounce back up to $3.39 for Christmas (it's done that all year). Ethanol-free still over $4. They used to peg it at 11% more expensive.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM (04KGT)
PA currently has the 3rd highest Gas Tax in the nation.
It had been 2nd.
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (UnA8+)
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"Sales of the flagship Ford F150 Conflagration Lightning plummeted 72% to just 1,006 units, which annualizes to just 12,072 units per year. Ford initially expected to be selling about 150,000 electric pickup trucks per year by now."
The guys in supply chain management should be homicidal by now. A hundred thousand trucks worth of work in progress inventory that you don't dare finish or your on hand inventory sky rockets while you still try to maximize capacity utilization all while dodging the warehouse and loading operators who are tripping over shit stacked everywhere.
I'd raise a toast to sales forecasts everywhere if I drank in the morning.
The guys in supply chain management should be homicidal by now. A hundred thousand trucks worth of work in progress inventory that you don't dare finish or your on hand inventory sky rockets while you still try to maximize capacity utilization all while dodging the warehouse and loading operators who are tripping over shit stacked everywhere.
I'd raise a toast to sales forecasts everywhere if I drank in the morning.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (pIfcn)
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I've seen that this means the Toyota Hilux will be legal to sell in the US.
Which is good for our Somali Warlord and Mad Max future.
Which is good for our Somali Warlord and Mad Max future.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (HXT0k)
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Every time I think that EV Madness has reached its peak, Buck comes along to disabuse me of that notion.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (GWWu1)
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They are dying, but far from dead. There are several high-profile EV launches still planned for 2026 and 2027, at both the high (Ferrari Elettrica) and low (Slate Truck) ends. I expect them all to be belly-flop failures, but there are so many of them in the pipeline that we'll still be seeing them for the next 3-4 years.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2025 11:07 AM (GWWu1)
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They are dying, but far from dead. There are several high-profile EV launches still planned for 2026 and 2027, at both the high (Ferrari Elettrica) and low (Slate Truck) ends. I expect them all to be belly-flop failures, but there are so many of them in the pipeline that we'll still be seeing them for the next 3-4 years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 08, 2025 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
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An EV is a wealthy man's toy, not a serious transportation device.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:15 AM (wzUl9)
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There! All the Christmas prep is done! House is decorated both inside and outside. The presents are bought and most of them wrapped, still waiting on a few delivery items. I just put the outgoing Christmas cards in the mailbox. Some cooking and baking and wrapping need to be done but most of that is a closer to the big day thing. All in all, I'm pretty happy with how things have shaped up this year. We usually wind up in a mad scramble to get everything finished on time.
Really looking forward to the grandspawn having his first Christmas.
Really looking forward to the grandspawn having his first Christmas.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:15 AM (2J/Lj)
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That garage was not built for the weight of EVs.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM
I meant my condo parking garage. Nothing has exploded...yet.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:11 AM
I meant my condo parking garage. Nothing has exploded...yet.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (bFu5X)
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I'm skeptical of that story about people trapped inside the car because the door were locked. If I understand correctly (a big if, admittedly,) the inside door handles are required to be a direct mechanical override of the door locks.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xAP/Y)
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29 You've really got to shop around on gasoline as prices fall - yesterday I saw one place at $2.69, then one at $2.45, then one at $2.33, and finally bought at the Walmart station for $2.09.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK
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Cheapest I see in NC is usually $2.59.
Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
and Buc-ee's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK
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Cheapest I see in NC is usually $2.59.
Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
and Buc-ee's.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (wVcYX)
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43 and Buc-ee's.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (wVcYX)
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We do have a Buc-ee's.
About 90 miles north of me.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (wVcYX)
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We do have a Buc-ee's.
About 90 miles north of me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO)
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The guys in supply chain management should be homicidal by now. A hundred thousand trucks worth of work in progress inventory that you don't dare finish or your on hand inventory sky rockets while you still try to maximize capacity utilization all while dodging the warehouse and loading operators who are tripping over shit stacked everywhere.
I'd raise a toast to sales forecasts everywhere if I drank in the morning.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (pIfcn)
It begs the question, how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?
The guys in supply chain management should be homicidal by now. A hundred thousand trucks worth of work in progress inventory that you don't dare finish or your on hand inventory sky rockets while you still try to maximize capacity utilization all while dodging the warehouse and loading operators who are tripping over shit stacked everywhere.
I'd raise a toast to sales forecasts everywhere if I drank in the morning.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 08, 2025 11:14 AM (pIfcn)
It begs the question, how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK8)
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$3.16 yesterday in PA. That'll bounce back up to $3.39 for Christmas (it's done that all year). Ethanol-free still over $4. They used to peg it at 11% more expensive.
Posted by: t-bird
E-Free is $3.39 at the station in town. McCraw Oil is the Flagship company for POL in this area.
(Petrol, Oil & Lubricants) Along with Propane.
Their flagship station on the corner or SH121 & 82 has the cheapest gas in town along with the cheapest E-Free gas.
Posted by: t-bird
E-Free is $3.39 at the station in town. McCraw Oil is the Flagship company for POL in this area.
(Petrol, Oil & Lubricants) Along with Propane.
Their flagship station on the corner or SH121 & 82 has the cheapest gas in town along with the cheapest E-Free gas.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (9bIJg)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (2J/Lj)
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The no-door-handles aspect would keep me from buying any vehicle. People don't think anymore.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8)
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President Trump’s actions only roll back the CAFE standards to pre-Biden levels that were set by Congress, but almost overlooked at the time of the One Big Beautiful Bill is that that bill zeroed out all penalties for non-compliance with CAFÉ laws. Auto manufacturers finally have the freedom to build and sell what consumers want to buy.
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I only saw the headline last week about Trump rolling back instead of eliminating the CAFE standards -- and wondered why he didn't just eliminate them.
Thanks Buck -- was unaware that the GBBB AND zeroed out all penalties for non-compliance.
Unfortunately, of course, the next (God Forbid) Democrat-Communist POTUS will ban all ICE vehicles as part of destroying the nation permanently ...
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I only saw the headline last week about Trump rolling back instead of eliminating the CAFE standards -- and wondered why he didn't just eliminate them.
Thanks Buck -- was unaware that the GBBB AND zeroed out all penalties for non-compliance.
Unfortunately, of course, the next (God Forbid) Democrat-Communist POTUS will ban all ICE vehicles as part of destroying the nation permanently ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (6/NZC)
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I'm skeptical of that story about people trapped inside the car because the door were locked. If I understand correctly (a big if, admittedly,) the inside door handles are required to be a direct mechanical override of the door locks.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xAP/Y)
I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xAP/Y)
I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that.
Posted by: Tesla 9000 at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (wVcYX)
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Is there any place to find incandescent bulbs for sale?
As for gas here in Da Swamp: I've seen as low as $2.19/gal. for regular (cash) at the Discount Zone where I buy my ethanol-free fuel for $2.99/gal. Highest is a Sunoco at around $2.79.
As for gas here in Da Swamp: I've seen as low as $2.19/gal. for regular (cash) at the Discount Zone where I buy my ethanol-free fuel for $2.99/gal. Highest is a Sunoco at around $2.79.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (wzUl9)
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Will President Newsom resore all the EV mandates?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (pkeXY)
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Sales of the flagship Ford F150 Conflagration Lightning plummeted...
I wanted to learn more of the science of EVs, so I looked "Spontaneous Combustion Engines (SCE)" on wikipedia. Topic does not exist.
I wanted to learn more of the science of EVs, so I looked "Spontaneous Combustion Engines (SCE)" on wikipedia. Topic does not exist.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (04KGT)
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It begs the question, how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
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It keeps the average cost per unit at acceptable levels. Or something.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
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It keeps the average cost per unit at acceptable levels. Or something.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (ofkVZ)
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My favorite thread series at AoSHQ!!!
I saw a large automotive Youtube channel claim that these regulation rollbacks will actually hurt engine reliability because the manufacturers will apparently NOT be able to add EV's and their "MPG equivalent" to their CAFE fleet calculations.
I don't think that the rollback says that. I think they were thinking that the end of the carbon credit scam is the equivalent of excluding EV's from CAFE standards.
I saw a large automotive Youtube channel claim that these regulation rollbacks will actually hurt engine reliability because the manufacturers will apparently NOT be able to add EV's and their "MPG equivalent" to their CAFE fleet calculations.
I don't think that the rollback says that. I think they were thinking that the end of the carbon credit scam is the equivalent of excluding EV's from CAFE standards.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 08, 2025 11:20 AM (WYStd)
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Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's not just Texas. It's wherever a pipeline terminates.
I get gas for $2.29 to $2.35. OKC is running $1.99/$2.09.
There's places in Dallas and rich suburbs that are charging $2.59/$2.69 because they can.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's not just Texas. It's wherever a pipeline terminates.
I get gas for $2.29 to $2.35. OKC is running $1.99/$2.09.
There's places in Dallas and rich suburbs that are charging $2.59/$2.69 because they can.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:20 AM (9bIJg)
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Will President Newsom resore all the EV mandates?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (pkeXY)
Current CA state law makes sales of ICE vehicles illegal starting in 2030 IIRC
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (pkeXY)
Current CA state law makes sales of ICE vehicles illegal starting in 2030 IIRC
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2025 11:21 AM (xT8gx)
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Really looking forward to the grandspawn having his first Christmas.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
And you know what you gotta do: Spoil the heck outta that little guy.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
And you know what you gotta do: Spoil the heck outta that little guy.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:21 AM (77rzZ)
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Is there any place to find incandescent bulbs for sale?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (wzUl9)
I've seen them at Dollar General.. If you can't find a DG, wait five minutes. One will magically appear soon!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:18 AM (wzUl9)
I've seen them at Dollar General.. If you can't find a DG, wait five minutes. One will magically appear soon!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:21 AM (2J/Lj)
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> Hopefully now we can get away from 1.3L 3 or 4 cylinder engines with turbos powering cars. When a motorcycle has a bigger engine than a 4 door car, there is a problem.
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If 1.3L can produce 250HP or more.... I'm in. A lot of mechanical stuff is miniaturizing. I foresee engines in vehicles taking up no more space that a suitcase. And producing obscene amounts of power for their size.
The twin turbo 3L in my wife's Explorer is good for 400HP.
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If 1.3L can produce 250HP or more.... I'm in. A lot of mechanical stuff is miniaturizing. I foresee engines in vehicles taking up no more space that a suitcase. And producing obscene amounts of power for their size.
The twin turbo 3L in my wife's Explorer is good for 400HP.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (NwnyJ)
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I'm skeptical of that story about people trapped inside the car because the door were locked. If I understand correctly (a big if, admittedly,) the inside door handles are required to be a direct mechanical override of the door locks.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xAP/Y)
I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that.
Posted by: Tesla 9000
The day a .45acp doesn't open a side window is the day I deserve to burn.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xAP/Y)
I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that.
Posted by: Tesla 9000
The day a .45acp doesn't open a side window is the day I deserve to burn.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (9bIJg)
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It begs the question, how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
Incentivize the sales department. Maybe give a big bonus or perhaps Roman style decimation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
Incentivize the sales department. Maybe give a big bonus or perhaps Roman style decimation.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (pIfcn)
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And by the way, have you seen how cheap gasoline is? I’ve seen it at under $2.20 per gallon this past weekend.
$1.99 in OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM
I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (bFu5X)
*looks at local Arco station with "cheap" gas at $3.90 here in Central Clownifornia*
Fuck you guys.
And by the way, have you seen how cheap gasoline is? I’ve seen it at under $2.20 per gallon this past weekend.
$1.99 in OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:02 AM
I paid about $2.67 the other day. Because New England.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:08 AM (bFu5X)
*looks at local Arco station with "cheap" gas at $3.90 here in Central Clownifornia*
Fuck you guys.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (y9nCu)
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My son's Telsa Model 3 has both a button to push and a lever. Push the button and window goes down a inch and the door can be opened. Pull the lever and the door opens mechanically, which is not good for the window.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (W7XSX)
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52 Will President Newsom resore all the EV mandates?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (pkeXY)
He'll just flat out ban the Internal Combustion Engine.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:19 AM (pkeXY)
He'll just flat out ban the Internal Combustion Engine.
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (UnA8+)
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I work at a facility that does explosives testing. EVs and hybrids are banned except for the remote parking lot.
We own a bunch of Dodge SUVs that are currently "quarantined" in a remote lot because of a recall for self-immolation.
We own a bunch of Dodge SUVs that are currently "quarantined" in a remote lot because of a recall for self-immolation.
Posted by: Max Entropy at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (oxDA9)
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It begs the question, how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?
Oh, boo hoo.
Oh, boo hoo.
Posted by: Chinese manufacturers looking at hundreds, if not thousands, of acres of unsold EVs at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)
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Gage, DeSoto, and Fireman Kelly are all happy to have retired before this lithium-fueled mess showed up.
Posted by: Emergency! Junkie at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (oftw2)
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And you know what you gotta do: Spoil the heck outta that little guy.
Posted by: Bulg
I shall endeavor to fulfill my grandmotherly spoiling duties!
Posted by: Bulg
I shall endeavor to fulfill my grandmotherly spoiling duties!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (2J/Lj)
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64 My son's Telsa Model 3 has both a button to push and a lever. Push the button and window goes down a inch and the door can be opened. Pull the lever and the door opens mechanically, which is not good for the window.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (W7XSX)
So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:22 AM (W7XSX)
So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: Nova Local at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (tOcjL)
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67 Oh, boo hoo.
Posted by: Chinese manufacturers looking at hundreds, if not thousands, of acres of unsold EVs at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)
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"Yeah, but our engines were still heavier."
-Soviet automakers
Posted by: Chinese manufacturers looking at hundreds, if not thousands, of acres of unsold EVs at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)
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"Yeah, but our engines were still heavier."
-Soviet automakers
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
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Will President Newsom resore all the EV mandates?
Before he lifts his hand from the Koran he's sworn in on.
Before he lifts his hand from the Koran he's sworn in on.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (3nLb4)
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"My son's Telsa Model 3 has both a button to push and a lever. Push the button and window goes down a inch and the door can be opened. Pull the lever and the door opens mechanically, which is not good for the window.
Posted by: no one "
Plenty of cars have the window lowering feature with mechanical handles.
Posted by: no one "
Plenty of cars have the window lowering feature with mechanical handles.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (vFG9F)
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The bullshit "tax rebate" for buying Solar products ends this year, yes?
The bullshit "tax rebate" for buying Solar products ends this year, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (MVEnt)
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>>>I suspect that other Ford family members are finally pushing back on Bill Ford and his destructive agenda for the company.
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They need a bigger hammer. That part of his quote, 'no gas guzzlers', chaps while at the same time one can stroll over and buy a Dodge with a hemi under the hood.
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They need a bigger hammer. That part of his quote, 'no gas guzzlers', chaps while at the same time one can stroll over and buy a Dodge with a hemi under the hood.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:24 AM (kf2Bq)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2025 11:25 AM (g8Ew8)
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For the love of God manufacturers have got to get away from unnecessary electronics in their ICE vehicles.
In Mrs. Bupkis' Lincoln, if I want to redirect the AC vents on a hot day, I can't just grab the vent and adjust it while driving with my eyes on the road.
I have to select the AC menu on the screen, and then move my finger around on the screen to indicate where I want the vent to point.
Which means I have to adjust the vents as soon as I get in and start the car -- a minor inconvenience, but why the hell do they even have this feature?
In Mrs. Bupkis' Lincoln, if I want to redirect the AC vents on a hot day, I can't just grab the vent and adjust it while driving with my eyes on the road.
I have to select the AC menu on the screen, and then move my finger around on the screen to indicate where I want the vent to point.
Which means I have to adjust the vents as soon as I get in and start the car -- a minor inconvenience, but why the hell do they even have this feature?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 08, 2025 11:25 AM (GD2xa)
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"So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:25 AM (vFG9F)
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If Trump would get CAFE/EPA off diesel's case we could be driving diesel Toyota's. Buddy had a little VW diesel - it was a monsta.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:26 AM (kf2Bq)
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He'll just flat out ban the Internal Combustion Engine.
Posted by: XTC
Except for him and his cronies. They'll be excepted out, doncha know.
Posted by: XTC
Except for him and his cronies. They'll be excepted out, doncha know.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (77rzZ)
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Ford’s EV sales plunged 60.8% in November.
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Not to worry, comrade -- we make up profit on volume!
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Not to worry, comrade -- we make up profit on volume!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (6/NZC)
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"I have to select the AC menu on the screen, and then move my finger around on the screen to indicate where I want the vent to point."
That's crazy. I would hate that. I suppose they don't let you do it while driving either.
That's crazy. I would hate that. I suppose they don't let you do it while driving either.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (vFG9F)
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"So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: Nova Local"
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It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025
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If I'm in a crash and a fire is starting, F**K THE WEATHERSTRIPPING!!!
Posted by: Nova Local"
*
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025
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If I'm in a crash and a fire is starting, F**K THE WEATHERSTRIPPING!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (wzUl9)
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Irony is...
buying cheap chinese solar panels off Amazon and receiving a tax rebate for the purchase.
Irony is...
buying cheap chinese solar panels off Amazon and receiving a tax rebate for the purchase.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (MVEnt)
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From tech thread...
The owner of a Lucid EV sedan asserts that it is one of the best engineered cars ever while demonstrating it has more bugs than an ant hill. In the alternative, never disappoint an Apple car play user.
https://youtu.be/1WiQAOmESH0
The owner of a Lucid EV sedan asserts that it is one of the best engineered cars ever while demonstrating it has more bugs than an ant hill. In the alternative, never disappoint an Apple car play user.
https://youtu.be/1WiQAOmESH0
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (uv8gn)
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"So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by:
Not a big deal. Because if the car is on fire, it's toast anyway.
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by:
Not a big deal. Because if the car is on fire, it's toast anyway.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (9bIJg)
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (AhmTX)
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78 "So, if the door is stuck, no way to open the window in a crash? You just have to break it?
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:25 AM (vFG9F)
What I read is manually, the Tesla will open a door, but only drop the window an inch no matter what you do.
If that's the case (and I may be confused by the poster), every Tesla I'd have would have a window breaker in every seat pocket...b/c sometimes in crashes, folks have to get out windows or not get out at all...I mean, I do have them in my ICE vehicles, but I'd have more in a Tesla...
Posted by: Nova Local"
It's just harder to open the door, and harder on the weatherstripping.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:25 AM (vFG9F)
What I read is manually, the Tesla will open a door, but only drop the window an inch no matter what you do.
If that's the case (and I may be confused by the poster), every Tesla I'd have would have a window breaker in every seat pocket...b/c sometimes in crashes, folks have to get out windows or not get out at all...I mean, I do have them in my ICE vehicles, but I'd have more in a Tesla...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (tOcjL)
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Hopefully now we can get away from 1.3L 3 or 4 cylinder engines with turbos powering cars.
gotta admit DanMa'am's Lincoln Nautilus with it's 300hp 1.8 ltr, 4 cylinder that wrings out 27 mpg is not a bad rig.
gotta admit DanMa'am's Lincoln Nautilus with it's 300hp 1.8 ltr, 4 cylinder that wrings out 27 mpg is not a bad rig.
Posted by: DanMan at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (8uzBS)
90
Doof? When did Doof get here?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (2Insx)
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More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
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"how do you keep a factory operating when you've already got 10 years worth of future sales in inventory?"
It's a write-off Jerry. They just write it off.
It's a write-off Jerry. They just write it off.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:30 AM (W7XSX)
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My '16 Buick has a lot of controls on the in-dash screen, but at least you can shift the air vents by hand.
The stereo can be controlled using the screen, but certain actions, like turning the unit on or off, going back to a previous screen or the Home screen, etc. can be done using buttons on the center stack panel. And the A/C has its own soft-touch buttons.
The stereo can be controlled using the screen, but certain actions, like turning the unit on or off, going back to a previous screen or the Home screen, etc. can be done using buttons on the center stack panel. And the A/C has its own soft-touch buttons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:30 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:30 AM (AhmTX)
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91
More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
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3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
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3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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Was listening to a bit of the SCOTUS on the independent agencies arguments this AM.
The Left Bloc (of Clowns) were desperate to enlarge the case beyond the question presented by lamenting how any new rule (read, overturning Humphries' Executor) would lead to additional litigation for other, lesser officers or even mere employees.
Yeah. That's what happens when a bad precedent, that piled on more bad precedent, gets overturned. But it's no basis for hewing to bad precedent.
They also were trying to card trick with "but if Congress is accountable to the people, why can't Congress create independent agencies for the benefit* of the people?"
Oh, so we're just going to pretend that you didn't just slip the "accountable" card in and out of the deck while claiming it's still in there?
*LOL, "benefit" that's one way to describe unaccountable petty bureaucratic tyrants.
The Left Bloc (of Clowns) were desperate to enlarge the case beyond the question presented by lamenting how any new rule (read, overturning Humphries' Executor) would lead to additional litigation for other, lesser officers or even mere employees.
Yeah. That's what happens when a bad precedent, that piled on more bad precedent, gets overturned. But it's no basis for hewing to bad precedent.
They also were trying to card trick with "but if Congress is accountable to the people, why can't Congress create independent agencies for the benefit* of the people?"
Oh, so we're just going to pretend that you didn't just slip the "accountable" card in and out of the deck while claiming it's still in there?
*LOL, "benefit" that's one way to describe unaccountable petty bureaucratic tyrants.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:31 AM (HXT0k)
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More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
for various reasons, the US Beef herd is the lowest it's been in 75 years.
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
for various reasons, the US Beef herd is the lowest it's been in 75 years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2025 11:31 AM (uWKK8)
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93 My '16 Buick has a lot of controls on the in-dash screen, but at least you can shift the air vents by hand.
The stereo can be controlled using the screen, but certain actions, like turning the unit on or off, going back to a previous screen or the Home screen, etc. can be done using buttons on the center stack panel. And the A/C has its own soft-touch buttons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:30 AM (wzUl9)
I just bought a dumber Keurig than I owned previously - now, there is no electronic screen, but just push buttons for what you want. I felt liberated from computer screen hell...
The stereo can be controlled using the screen, but certain actions, like turning the unit on or off, going back to a previous screen or the Home screen, etc. can be done using buttons on the center stack panel. And the A/C has its own soft-touch buttons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:30 AM (wzUl9)
I just bought a dumber Keurig than I owned previously - now, there is no electronic screen, but just push buttons for what you want. I felt liberated from computer screen hell...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (tOcjL)
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Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
Now, the ass-end of the Rockies is in Far West Texas.
You can move from NC to Big Bend, TX and continue your Hillbilly Life-Style there!
Oh, to live in Texas. Flat, featureless, close to refineries Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
Now, the ass-end of the Rockies is in Far West Texas.
You can move from NC to Big Bend, TX and continue your Hillbilly Life-Style there!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (iJfKG)
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buying cheap chinese solar panels off Amazon and receiving a tax rebate for the purchase."
We're what, $37T down?
We're what, $37T down?
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (AhmTX)
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (W7XSX)
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I absolutely detest all of the extraneous tech in cars now. It's seriously stupid.
Saw an ad for a company that customizes Broncos. Includes a real, honest window handle like we used to roll down the window! Push down on it, the window goes down. Push up, window goes up. Still automatic but has the handle for looks. I love that. Wish they still had the little vent window on the front side windows. Hubbymayhem is still grumbling about "put the damn dimmer switch back on the floor where God intended it to be".
Saw an ad for a company that customizes Broncos. Includes a real, honest window handle like we used to roll down the window! Push down on it, the window goes down. Push up, window goes up. Still automatic but has the handle for looks. I love that. Wish they still had the little vent window on the front side windows. Hubbymayhem is still grumbling about "put the damn dimmer switch back on the floor where God intended it to be".
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (2J/Lj)
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EVs are a 100 year old tech.
And they've been inferior to ICE vehicles for this whole time.
Its like the government trying to mandate mercury bulbs to replace incandescents, expect their the market came up with a better solution in LEDs...
And they've been inferior to ICE vehicles for this whole time.
Its like the government trying to mandate mercury bulbs to replace incandescents, expect their the market came up with a better solution in LEDs...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (sKqQm)
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101 "Independent agencies?"
That there is unconstitutional.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (W7XSX)
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Independent of whom?
That there is unconstitutional.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:32 AM (W7XSX)
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Independent of whom?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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$2.53 for gas here. I do need to fill up soon.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (+mUZM)
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Posted by: Chinese manufacturers looking at hundreds, if not thousands, of acres of unsold EVs at December 08, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)
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Prenty of parking in ghost city.
/s/ Chinese Real Estate Developers
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Prenty of parking in ghost city.
/s/ Chinese Real Estate Developers
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (HXT0k)
107
They want independent agencies that Trump cannot control.
Posted by: no one at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (W7XSX)
108
for various reasons, the US Beef herd is the lowest it's been in 75 years.
3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
Democrats blaming Republicans for higher beef prices: inevitable.
3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
Democrats blaming Republicans for higher beef prices: inevitable.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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104 Independent of whom?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
The Demoncrat Party.
You know this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
The Demoncrat Party.
You know this.
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (UnA8+)
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82 "I have to select the AC menu on the screen, and then move my finger around on the screen to indicate where I want the vent to point."
That's crazy. I would hate that. I suppose they don't let you do it while driving either.
Posted by: fd
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Putting a control screen on a vehicle is about as safe as putting a TV in the middle of the dash. They'll give you wreck stat on texting but not a word on someone following GPS or trying to activate something on the screen instead of, you know, driving the car.
That's crazy. I would hate that. I suppose they don't let you do it while driving either.
Posted by: fd
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Putting a control screen on a vehicle is about as safe as putting a TV in the middle of the dash. They'll give you wreck stat on texting but not a word on someone following GPS or trying to activate something on the screen instead of, you know, driving the car.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (kf2Bq)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
112
108
Democrats blaming Republicans for higher beef prices: inevitable.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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"Until Republicans get serious about affordability as evidenced by beef prices, Republicans deserve no votes."
-people who never vote for Republicans
Democrats blaming Republicans for higher beef prices: inevitable.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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"Until Republicans get serious about affordability as evidenced by beef prices, Republicans deserve no votes."
-people who never vote for Republicans
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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The public charging network shrinks at the exact moment Maryland needs it to expand.
"That's all right! We'll tax those EVIL ONE PERCENTERS! and get that money back."
"That's all right! We'll tax those EVIL ONE PERCENTERS! and get that money back."
Posted by: NR Pax at December 08, 2025 11:35 AM (lXoJ5)
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That's crazy. I would hate that. I suppose they don't let you do it while driving either.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (vFG9F)
You can do it while driving, but it's impossible to watch the road.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 11:27 AM (vFG9F)
You can do it while driving, but it's impossible to watch the road.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 08, 2025 11:35 AM (GD2xa)
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111 "Independent agencies?"
That there is unconstitutional.
Independent agencies = monarchy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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A monarchy has a head. One guy in charge.
An ecosystem of independent agencies has no head. It is a Mandarin class.
That there is unconstitutional.
Independent agencies = monarchy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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A monarchy has a head. One guy in charge.
An ecosystem of independent agencies has no head. It is a Mandarin class.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
116
I hope those poor kids win their lawsuit.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)
117
That garage was not built for the weight of EVs.
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I meant my condo parking garage. Nothing has exploded...yet.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
The weight of the EVs due to batteries. can overload the floors, pancaking follows.
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I meant my condo parking garage. Nothing has exploded...yet.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
The weight of the EVs due to batteries. can overload the floors, pancaking follows.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:36 AM (M6rYb)
118
I read that Tyson just shut down a packing plant in NE. They handle cattle there.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 08, 2025 11:36 AM (+mUZM)
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107 They want independent agencies that Trump cannot control.
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Substitute "Deep State can" in for "Trump cannot" and I think you got it.
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Substitute "Deep State can" in for "Trump cannot" and I think you got it.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (Dv3i1)
120
More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's
Costco screwing you.
Sam's Choice tenderloin $21.97/lb
Choice Ribeye $17.38/lb
Choice Angus Eye of Round $6.47/lb
NY Strip $13.98/lb
Inside Skirt Steak $10.98/lb
Thin Sliced Milanesa (jerky cut) 9.17/lb
Ground 90/10 $5.12/10 lb chub
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's
Costco screwing you.
Sam's Choice tenderloin $21.97/lb
Choice Ribeye $17.38/lb
Choice Angus Eye of Round $6.47/lb
NY Strip $13.98/lb
Inside Skirt Steak $10.98/lb
Thin Sliced Milanesa (jerky cut) 9.17/lb
Ground 90/10 $5.12/10 lb chub
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (9bIJg)
121
Chairman Xi warming up for his meeting with Trump.
Japan Protests After Jets Targeted With Radar
Japan and Australia condemned the radar targeting as dangerous and destabilizing for the region, pointing to Beijing’s disregard for the rules-based order.
Japan Protests After Jets Targeted With Radar
Japan and Australia condemned the radar targeting as dangerous and destabilizing for the region, pointing to Beijing’s disregard for the rules-based order.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (kf2Bq)
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A monarchy has a head. One guy in charge.
An ecosystem of independent agencies has no head. It is a Mandarin class.
Mercantilism, an economic policy where nations sought wealth (gold/silver) through a positive trade balance,
thrived under monarchies by empowering them with centralized control, colonial exploitation, and state-directed commerce, reinforcing absolute power by making the monarch the ultimate economic authority, funding armies, and expanding empires, with Louis XIV's France under Colbert as a prime example. Monarchs regulated trade, created monopolies (like East India Companies), extracted resources from colonies, and used the resulting wealth to boost national power and their own coffers, blurring the lines between state and ruler
An ecosystem of independent agencies has no head. It is a Mandarin class.
Mercantilism, an economic policy where nations sought wealth (gold/silver) through a positive trade balance,
thrived under monarchies by empowering them with centralized control, colonial exploitation, and state-directed commerce, reinforcing absolute power by making the monarch the ultimate economic authority, funding armies, and expanding empires, with Louis XIV's France under Colbert as a prime example. Monarchs regulated trade, created monopolies (like East India Companies), extracted resources from colonies, and used the resulting wealth to boost national power and their own coffers, blurring the lines between state and ruler
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
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You can move from NC to Big Bend, TX and continue your Hillbilly Life-Style there!
Posted by: naturalfake
I live as far east as one can get in NC without being in the surf. No hills, nor rocks for over 100 miles. Live all of my life from 0-25 feet above sea level. Yet I am a proud Snuffy Smith.
Posted by: naturalfake
I live as far east as one can get in NC without being in the surf. No hills, nor rocks for over 100 miles. Live all of my life from 0-25 feet above sea level. Yet I am a proud Snuffy Smith.
Posted by: Elevation Is Unrelated To Sophistication at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (oftw2)
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Ford’s Forward Sensing System alerts the driver of hazards or objects in front of the vehicle through a series of ‘beeps’ that increase in frequency if the vehicle nears the obstacle.
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It is an annoying feature. The collision warning goes nuts is someone an eight mile ahead makes a right turn and erupts with a sound cross between a red alert on the USS Enterprise and Yoko Ono stepping on a Lego at ear shattering volume. The obstacle warning sensor got a bit of ice on it one morning and went off constantly during my fortunately short commute.
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It is an annoying feature. The collision warning goes nuts is someone an eight mile ahead makes a right turn and erupts with a sound cross between a red alert on the USS Enterprise and Yoko Ono stepping on a Lego at ear shattering volume. The obstacle warning sensor got a bit of ice on it one morning and went off constantly during my fortunately short commute.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (5dL1W)
125
You can do it while driving, but it's impossible to watch the road."
Hey, let's add hands free driving!
You can do it while driving, but it's impossible to watch the road."
Hey, let's add hands free driving!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (AhmTX)
126
A substantial yearly charger tax transforms a goodwill gesture into a financial liability. Many hosts will run the numbers, see red ink, and simply rip out the equipment rather than pass the cost to users or risk repeated red tags for minor violations.
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Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (1gU1e)
127
More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
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3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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The price is also high due to very high demand. Beef is The Cool Thing right now, especially with the affluent set. A slowdown in that market could drive down beef prices faster than growing new herds. But there seems to be no slowdown in demand on the horizon. If anything demand might increase, at least on the global scale.
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:29 AM (MVEnt)
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3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
Much smaller supply than normal.
It's like egg prices, except it'll take a few years to fix instead of a few months.
Beef cattle take 2-3 years to mature.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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The price is also high due to very high demand. Beef is The Cool Thing right now, especially with the affluent set. A slowdown in that market could drive down beef prices faster than growing new herds. But there seems to be no slowdown in demand on the horizon. If anything demand might increase, at least on the global scale.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (iFTx/)
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Costco = virtue signaling 101
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (AhmTX)
129
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Humphrey's Executor and the whole independent agency (and the Merit system) were a reaction by Congress to rein in the executive. Because Congress itself cannot do anything other than legislation and consent on nominees per separation of powers, Congress sought to set up mechanisms to bypass executive authority via these new independent agencies. Thus, often Congress (and interest groups) controlled these along with the bureaucrats who could no longer be displaced by a new administration.
Very contrary to the founders intent for the executive. Deny presidents firing power of bureaucrats and deny them control over key agencies, then you get a muddle where Congress and interest groups maximize their authority over the bureaucracy instead of the intended executive authority. Term limits for a president make it worse without term limits for Congress and courts.
If Congress wants to delegate power, it should be in the legislation specifically to provide courts (and presidents) with some way to measure faithful execution of the laws, not vague massive bills.
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Humphrey's Executor and the whole independent agency (and the Merit system) were a reaction by Congress to rein in the executive. Because Congress itself cannot do anything other than legislation and consent on nominees per separation of powers, Congress sought to set up mechanisms to bypass executive authority via these new independent agencies. Thus, often Congress (and interest groups) controlled these along with the bureaucrats who could no longer be displaced by a new administration.
Very contrary to the founders intent for the executive. Deny presidents firing power of bureaucrats and deny them control over key agencies, then you get a muddle where Congress and interest groups maximize their authority over the bureaucracy instead of the intended executive authority. Term limits for a president make it worse without term limits for Congress and courts.
If Congress wants to delegate power, it should be in the legislation specifically to provide courts (and presidents) with some way to measure faithful execution of the laws, not vague massive bills.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (WDjG6)
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If all this price stuff is getting you depressed . . .
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
131
In my car I just figured out over the weekend how to turn off the annoying feature that tries to jerk the car away from the line if say for instance you decide to change lanes without signaling (no other vehicle within three miles). The jerk is dangerous IMO
I had to page through about 4 menus to find the place to disable that functionality… annoying
I had to page through about 4 menus to find the place to disable that functionality… annoying
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (xT8gx)
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Posted by: ShainS
*Tesla has entered the chat
Posted by: ShainS
*Tesla has entered the chat
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:39 AM (9bIJg)
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The weight of the EVs due to batteries. can overload the floors, pancaking follows.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:36 AM
Our garage is a single level under the building. On the ground. Ain't goin' nowhere. I worry more about fire.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2025 11:36 AM
Our garage is a single level under the building. On the ground. Ain't goin' nowhere. I worry more about fire.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (bFu5X)
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. . . Ground 90/10 $5.12/10 lb chub
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025
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Aldi has their 85/10 grass-fed ground beef for $6.49/lb.
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025
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Aldi has their 85/10 grass-fed ground beef for $6.49/lb.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (wzUl9)
135
EV charger taxes make perfect sense because EV owners don't pay gas taxes and the cars are heavier than similar sized ICE cars.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (36PRH)
136
3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
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So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?
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So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (5dL1W)
137
blurring the lines between state and ruler
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
L'État, c'est moi
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
L'État, c'est moi
Posted by: Louis XIV at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (GD2xa)
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Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (1gU1e)
Well, I guess that's as good a place as any to park a hundred thousand unsold trucks.
BREAKING: General Motors CEO Mary Barra Announces That GM Will Be Acquiring All EV Charging Stations in Maryland. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (1gU1e)
Well, I guess that's as good a place as any to park a hundred thousand unsold trucks.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 08, 2025 11:41 AM (pIfcn)
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‘ *looks at local Arco station with "cheap" gas at $3.90 here in Central Clownifornia*’
God. I’m so glad I don’t live there.
‘ *looks at local Arco station with "cheap" gas at $3.90 here in Central Clownifornia*’
God. I’m so glad I don’t live there.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2025 11:41 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 08, 2025 11:41 AM (gtuL0)
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2025 11:41 AM (04KGT)
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:41 AM (AhmTX)
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That anti-freedom insanity has finally ended.
No, it hasn't. At best it has been put off until the next Progressive administration. And it hasn't ended until CAFE has been scrapped entirely. Also, I'm not sure he rolled CAFE all the way back to minimums in the law. Or did that massive inflatio- and grift-palooza bill include higher standards?
Now, can he scrap a bunch of the safety stuff that requires your car to end up totaled in a minor wreck? That would help a lot more with the cost of a car.
No, it hasn't. At best it has been put off until the next Progressive administration. And it hasn't ended until CAFE has been scrapped entirely. Also, I'm not sure he rolled CAFE all the way back to minimums in the law. Or did that massive inflatio- and grift-palooza bill include higher standards?
Now, can he scrap a bunch of the safety stuff that requires your car to end up totaled in a minor wreck? That would help a lot more with the cost of a car.
Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (nHPsW)
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127 More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate
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Perfect storm--screw worms in Mexico threatening herds, reshuffle on world trade, long time required for beef herds to regrow, past Biden's junta hatred of the industry, and increased demand.
Pork, chicken, and eggs, have far shorter production timelines and thus are affordable alternatives if you want protein.
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate
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Perfect storm--screw worms in Mexico threatening herds, reshuffle on world trade, long time required for beef herds to regrow, past Biden's junta hatred of the industry, and increased demand.
Pork, chicken, and eggs, have far shorter production timelines and thus are affordable alternatives if you want protein.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (WDjG6)
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Independent of whom?
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That was a funny exchange.
Kagan was trying to trap Saur with a "wouldn't you agree that the Constitution created 3 independent branches who are accountable to the people?"
Which she was going to spring with, "so why can't Congress create independent agencies?"
And Saur was like, "yes but with the caveat except for the Presidency which is given sole authority over the Executive."
She actually said, "you anticipated my question. That's a big caveat, it's the not-X to my X."
Yeah. Because we have an enumerated powers Constitution--if it isn't specifically granted, it's not a power of the branch.
Because they're trying to "well if the Constitution is silent on removal, why can't Congress set limits on removal?"
It's all tea leaves, but the Left Bloc knows they have lost and are just trying to tee up a fire dissent.
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That was a funny exchange.
Kagan was trying to trap Saur with a "wouldn't you agree that the Constitution created 3 independent branches who are accountable to the people?"
Which she was going to spring with, "so why can't Congress create independent agencies?"
And Saur was like, "yes but with the caveat except for the Presidency which is given sole authority over the Executive."
She actually said, "you anticipated my question. That's a big caveat, it's the not-X to my X."
Yeah. Because we have an enumerated powers Constitution--if it isn't specifically granted, it's not a power of the branch.
Because they're trying to "well if the Constitution is silent on removal, why can't Congress set limits on removal?"
It's all tea leaves, but the Left Bloc knows they have lost and are just trying to tee up a fire dissent.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (HXT0k)
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Just ordered the plug in doohickey that will TURN OFF THE FUCKING AUTO STOP/START feature on my F150.
Plug & play and it will remember the last choice.
Amazon:
4D Tech Auto Start Stop Eliminator - Easy-Install Autostop Eliminator Made for 2021-2025 Ford F150 - Compatible Ford F150 Accessories
Plug & play and it will remember the last choice.
Amazon:
4D Tech Auto Start Stop Eliminator - Easy-Install Autostop Eliminator Made for 2021-2025 Ford F150 - Compatible Ford F150 Accessories
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (9bIJg)
147
Yay Buck. My favorite thread series at AoSHQ
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (van9r)
148
Now there was two little imps and they was black as tar/
And they was trying to get to heaven in an electric car/
And that car wheel slipped on down the hill/
Instead of going to heaven, they went to Jacksonville
And they was trying to get to heaven in an electric car/
And that car wheel slipped on down the hill/
Instead of going to heaven, they went to Jacksonville
Posted by: Martin Tell at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (sFNX2)
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (AhmTX)
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120 More important to me is...
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's
Costco screwing you.
Sam's Choice tenderloin $21.97/lb
Choice Ribeye $17.38/lb
Choice Angus Eye of Round $6.47/lb
NY Strip $13.98/lb
Inside Skirt Steak $10.98/lb
Thin Sliced Milanesa (jerky cut) 9.17/lb
Ground 90/10 $5.12/10 lb chub
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (9bIJg)
Cattle prices are very very high.
the price of BEEF!
WTF is going on?
$18/lb for Choice at Costco? $24/lb for Prime?
Posted by: Soothsayer's
Costco screwing you.
Sam's Choice tenderloin $21.97/lb
Choice Ribeye $17.38/lb
Choice Angus Eye of Round $6.47/lb
NY Strip $13.98/lb
Inside Skirt Steak $10.98/lb
Thin Sliced Milanesa (jerky cut) 9.17/lb
Ground 90/10 $5.12/10 lb chub
Ground 80/20 $4.98/10 lb chub
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:37 AM (9bIJg)
Cattle prices are very very high.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (pDt9x)
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It's all tea leaves, but the Left Bloc knows they have lost and are just trying to tee up a fire dissent.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (HXT0k)
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You could pretty much say this about every major case before SCOTUS over the last year.
It's all tea leaves, but the Left Bloc knows they have lost and are just trying to tee up a fire dissent.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (HXT0k)
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You could pretty much say this about every major case before SCOTUS over the last year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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The price is also high due to very high demand. Beef is The Cool Thing right now, especially with the affluent set.
We should start a PR drive to convince them to eat either 1) horse, because that's what the Frawnsh do or 2) goat, in solidarity with the oppressed Muslims.
We should start a PR drive to convince them to eat either 1) horse, because that's what the Frawnsh do or 2) goat, in solidarity with the oppressed Muslims.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (3nLb4)
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149 So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?"
/sugar waves hi!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (AhmTX)
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The New Deal was never repealed.
/sugar waves hi!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (AhmTX)
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The New Deal was never repealed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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Congress established agencies like the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) as "independent" bodies, largely insulated from direct presidential control to allow the agencies to make decisions based on "facts and merit, free from immediate political pressure.
The administration's position is the President must have control over all wielding executive power to ensure laws are "faithfully executed."
The administration's position is the President must have control over all wielding executive power to ensure laws are "faithfully executed."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (NFX2v)
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They want independent agencies that Trump cannot control.
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Shadowy unelected faceless bureaucrats with hidden agendas always work out well.
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Shadowy unelected faceless bureaucrats with hidden agendas always work out well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)
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136 3 years ago, Biden's Ag Secretary ordered the smallest beef herd since the 70s, essentially.
__________________________
So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (5dL1W)
I'm not quite sure that Biden's Ag Secretary had anything to do with the size of the beef herd. There were droughts and feed price increases that were probably the cause. Here's a 2024 article from the Farm Bureau that anticipated this situation:
https://archive.is/3iszt
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So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:40 AM (5dL1W)
I'm not quite sure that Biden's Ag Secretary had anything to do with the size of the beef herd. There were droughts and feed price increases that were probably the cause. Here's a 2024 article from the Farm Bureau that anticipated this situation:
https://archive.is/3iszt
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (0CU3H)
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Beef prices high for several reasons. No short term fix in sight.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (pDt9x)
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Hey, let's add hands free driving!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (AhmTX)
Mrs. Bupkis' Nautilus has that feature too, only on roads that are mapped into the computer, usually the big interstates, which are the worst place to take your hands off the wheel with all the third-world truckers running around.
And what do you even do when you're driving hands free? Play air guitar? It's a stupid feature.
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:38 AM (AhmTX)
Mrs. Bupkis' Nautilus has that feature too, only on roads that are mapped into the computer, usually the big interstates, which are the worst place to take your hands off the wheel with all the third-world truckers running around.
And what do you even do when you're driving hands free? Play air guitar? It's a stupid feature.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (GD2xa)
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Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Because sounding like Alvin & the Chipmunks always lightens the mood.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Because sounding like Alvin & the Chipmunks always lightens the mood.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (9bIJg)
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There should be a button with an A in a circle that you press to turn off auto stop. You have to press it every time you start your truck.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (5dL1W)
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The price is also high due to very high demand. Beef is The Cool Thing right now, especially with the affluent set.
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All these years eating at Outback is didn't realize I was among the affluent set.
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All these years eating at Outback is didn't realize I was among the affluent set.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 08, 2025 11:45 AM (36PRH)
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130 If all this price stuff is getting you depressed . . .
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Same effect can be had by watching your neighbor fall off his roof installing his 15' Blow-up Santa.
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Same effect can be had by watching your neighbor fall off his roof installing his 15' Blow-up Santa.
Posted by: Schadenfreude Is Real, Spectacular! at December 08, 2025 11:45 AM (oftw2)
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Small US herd, feed costs biggest problem.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:45 AM (pDt9x)
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The Buick has the Lane Departure Warning, which I turned off. Don't need it yammering at me when I swerve, safely, to avoid a pothole or dead animal in the road.
It has the Collision Warning thing, and I'll admit it's pretty useful. Though there was one bend in the street in my usual commute home. The system would chime at me because, just before I would negotiate the bend, there would often be a parked car. The radar read it as "dead ahead" for the second before I swung the wheel to take the curve.
It has the Collision Warning thing, and I'll admit it's pretty useful. Though there was one bend in the street in my usual commute home. The system would chime at me because, just before I would negotiate the bend, there would often be a parked car. The radar read it as "dead ahead" for the second before I swung the wheel to take the curve.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (wzUl9)
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Our garage is a single level under the building. On the ground. Ain't goin' nowhere. I worry more about fire.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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The garage may not go anywhere but an EV fire underneath a building in a garage might make the building go down. Concrete and rebar inside it don't like baking in sustained chemical fires. And not even discussing the hazardous chemicals and vapors put off into the building's ventilation system.
Aluminum and sodium batteries now beginning to come onto the market are far better in comparison for fires than lithium but yet they are somewhat heavier making it more difficult for EVs in a sense.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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The garage may not go anywhere but an EV fire underneath a building in a garage might make the building go down. Concrete and rebar inside it don't like baking in sustained chemical fires. And not even discussing the hazardous chemicals and vapors put off into the building's ventilation system.
Aluminum and sodium batteries now beginning to come onto the market are far better in comparison for fires than lithium but yet they are somewhat heavier making it more difficult for EVs in a sense.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (WDjG6)
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And what do you even do when you're driving hands free? Play air guitar? It's a stupid feature.
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The dream is a car that drives itself on long trips while I nap in the back seat. We are a long way from that.
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The dream is a car that drives itself on long trips while I nap in the back seat. We are a long way from that.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (5dL1W)
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There should be a button with an A in a circle that you press to turn off auto stop. You have to press it every time you start your truck.
Posted by: Victor Tango
There is. And it's 1. A pain in the ass & 2. A feature I never asked for.
Posted by: Victor Tango
There is. And it's 1. A pain in the ass & 2. A feature I never asked for.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (9bIJg)
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Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (pDt9x)
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Ford sold just 4,247 all-electric vehicles last month, a stark contrast from the over 10,800 it sold in the year prior.
Ummmm, over 4,000 in one month would be a pretty steep increase from 10,000 per year. I know we don't do math here, but you'd think a journalist might check it before writing such a dumb sentence. (It's likely they sold 10,000/MONTH last year as what was intended. But that's not what they wrote.)
Ummmm, over 4,000 in one month would be a pretty steep increase from 10,000 per year. I know we don't do math here, but you'd think a journalist might check it before writing such a dumb sentence. (It's likely they sold 10,000/MONTH last year as what was intended. But that's not what they wrote.)
Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (nHPsW)
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Congratulations, Buck.I'd say you've been Oracle of the decade. Jim Farley at Ford sure could have used you.
My brother has a *Hybrid* camry that has logged 300,000 miles and still going strong. One battery replacement cost $3000. Good car.
My brother has a *Hybrid* camry that has logged 300,000 miles and still going strong. One battery replacement cost $3000. Good car.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (jeWNT)
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And what do you even do when you're driving hands free? Play air guitar? It's a stupid feature.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis
Consider purchasing my signature popcorn box!
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis
Consider purchasing my signature popcorn box!
Posted by: Pee-Wee's Big Adventure at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (Wg6v7)
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154 Congress established agencies like the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) as "independent" bodies, largely insulated from direct presidential control to allow the agencies to make decisions based on "facts and merit, free from immediate political pressure.
The administration's position is the President must have control over all wielding executive power to ensure laws are "faithfully executed."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (NFX2v)
Ironically, Spicer v. Biden has given Trump more latitude on this that the Dems wanted. They were so busy dunking on Sean Spicer that they didn't realize that a Biden win here would set a precedent they would come to regret.
The administration's position is the President must have control over all wielding executive power to ensure laws are "faithfully executed."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 08, 2025 11:43 AM (NFX2v)
Ironically, Spicer v. Biden has given Trump more latitude on this that the Dems wanted. They were so busy dunking on Sean Spicer that they didn't realize that a Biden win here would set a precedent they would come to regret.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (0CU3H)
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170 Congratulations, Buck.I'd say you've been Oracle of the decade. Jim Farley at Ford sure could have used you.
My brother has a *Hybrid* camry that has logged 300,000 miles and still going strong. One battery replacement cost $3000. Good car.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (jeWNT)
Prius set the stage for electric assist vehicles.
My brother has a *Hybrid* camry that has logged 300,000 miles and still going strong. One battery replacement cost $3000. Good car.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (jeWNT)
Prius set the stage for electric assist vehicles.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:48 AM (pDt9x)
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Just ordered the plug in doohickey that will TURN OFF THE FUCKING AUTO STOP/START feature on my F150.
Plug & play and it will remember the last choice.
Amazon:
4D Tech Auto Start Stop Eliminator - Easy-Install Autostop Eliminator Made for 2021-2025 Ford F150 - Compatible Ford F150 Accessories
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025
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In '19, I could have bought a used '17 Buick LaCrosse for about the same money as my '16. I loved the look of the newer sedan too. But it had that autostop thing, and it would have required an aftermarket part like this to turn it off and *keep* it off.
Plug & play and it will remember the last choice.
Amazon:
4D Tech Auto Start Stop Eliminator - Easy-Install Autostop Eliminator Made for 2021-2025 Ford F150 - Compatible Ford F150 Accessories
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025
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In '19, I could have bought a used '17 Buick LaCrosse for about the same money as my '16. I loved the look of the newer sedan too. But it had that autostop thing, and it would have required an aftermarket part like this to turn it off and *keep* it off.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:48 AM (wzUl9)
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Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
Posted by: tubal
Also those little mirrors embedded in the big mirrors to show the blind spot.
Posted by: tubal
Also those little mirrors embedded in the big mirrors to show the blind spot.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:48 AM (77rzZ)
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Ironically, Spicer v. Biden has given Trump more latitude on this that the Dems wanted. They were so busy dunking on Sean Spicer that they didn't realize that a Biden win here would set a precedent they would come to regret.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (0CU3H)
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Spicer was very vocal and public about his goal in pursuing that lawsuit:
To lose.
He didn't want the post, but he wanted the precedent that presidents could fire him and people like him in such posts.
He told them, in court and in public, what would happen. And they did it anyway.
Ironically, Spicer v. Biden has given Trump more latitude on this that the Dems wanted. They were so busy dunking on Sean Spicer that they didn't realize that a Biden win here would set a precedent they would come to regret.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (0CU3H)
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Spicer was very vocal and public about his goal in pursuing that lawsuit:
To lose.
He didn't want the post, but he wanted the precedent that presidents could fire him and people like him in such posts.
He told them, in court and in public, what would happen. And they did it anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
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The administration's position is the President must have control over all wielding executive power to ensure laws are "faithfully executed."
Posted by: L
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Same as the Founders and the roughly 100 years before the ICC was created (first important independent executive agency). Big Railroad wanted the ICC to protect it from executives wanting to affect freight and passenger rates and Congress obliged.
Posted by: L
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Same as the Founders and the roughly 100 years before the ICC was created (first important independent executive agency). Big Railroad wanted the ICC to protect it from executives wanting to affect freight and passenger rates and Congress obliged.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (WDjG6)
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172 168 Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
Posted by: pine tree air freshener at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (sGtp+)
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There should be a button with an A in a circle that you press to turn off auto stop. You have to press it every time you start your truck.
Yeah, the annoying part. If I could set disable it once and forget it, I wouldn't care about it at all.
Yeah, the annoying part. If I could set disable it once and forget it, I wouldn't care about it at all.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (3nLb4)
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172 168 Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
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Heated seats are better.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (Wg6v7)
Drive truck with cloth seats, alas.
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Heated seats are better.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2025 11:47 AM (Wg6v7)
Drive truck with cloth seats, alas.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (pDt9x)
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And what do you even do when you're driving hands free?
Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.
Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM (9bIJg)
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I just delved into the "solar" world and learned a thing or two.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
I just delved into the "solar" world and learned a thing or two.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (MVEnt)
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162 130 If all this price stuff is getting you depressed . . .
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Same effect can be had by watching your neighbor fall off his roof installing his 15' Blow-up Santa.
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I would prescribe Quaaludes.
Laughing Gas Shows Quick Relief Potential for Treatment-Resistant Depression
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Same effect can be had by watching your neighbor fall off his roof installing his 15' Blow-up Santa.
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I would prescribe Quaaludes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (Wg6v7)
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (77rzZ)
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And what do you even do when you're driving hands free? Play air guitar? It's a stupid feature.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (GD2xa)
Where is "Masturbatin' Pete" when we need him?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 08, 2025 11:44 AM (GD2xa)
Where is "Masturbatin' Pete" when we need him?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (It87H)
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Tangential:
I think it was Bessent who revealed last week that the deregulation to regulation ratio right now in Trump's 2nd administration is 48-1.
His first term, it was about 10-1.
And, in a post Chevron world, all new regs written are open to judicial review instead of assumed to be valid like it was under Chevron.
Putting regulations back will be a lot harder than taking them out or originally putting them in, and Trump is tearing out a lot of regulation.
I think it was Bessent who revealed last week that the deregulation to regulation ratio right now in Trump's 2nd administration is 48-1.
His first term, it was about 10-1.
And, in a post Chevron world, all new regs written are open to judicial review instead of assumed to be valid like it was under Chevron.
Putting regulations back will be a lot harder than taking them out or originally putting them in, and Trump is tearing out a lot of regulation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
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My cousin raises beef cattle. It's a small operation and they sell it to people. Not stores or meat markets. Two years running we bought a quarter of a beef from her and it is wonderful! I had forgotten how tender and flavorful direct to customer beef is. And we paid right around $900 for the quarter and processing for about 195 pounds of wrapped beef. My freezer is full! And we won't have to buy beef for at least another year.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (2J/Lj)
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The price is also high due to very high demand. Beef is The Cool Thing right now, especially with the affluent set.
*dons tinfoil chapeau*
The affluent vote heavily Dem, and the Dems know they have a "masculinity" problem. Perhaps it's an attempt to look butch.
An alternative explanation is that they're sick of eating tofu.
*dons tinfoil chapeau*
The affluent vote heavily Dem, and the Dems know they have a "masculinity" problem. Perhaps it's an attempt to look butch.
An alternative explanation is that they're sick of eating tofu.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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OMG noooooooo!
LGBTQ+ advocacy group complains that almost half of the queer characters on TV will be gone by next year
LGBTQ+ advocacy group complains that almost half of the queer characters on TV will be gone by next year
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Crown Air Freshener at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (oftw2)
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Owners should park the vehicles outside and away from structures, and not charge the cars until they are fixed, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a recall notice. The agency said a fix for the issue is currently under development, but didn't specify when it might be available to vehicle owners.
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Isn't it time to mandate a water sprinkler system for EVs?
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Isn't it time to mandate a water sprinkler system for EVs?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (hkN5q)
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I just delved into the "solar" world and learned a thing or two.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
You are one hailstorm from losing your ass.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
You are one hailstorm from losing your ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:51 AM (9bIJg)
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Posted by: pine tree air freshener
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Do you remember the Crown Royal stink pot in the back window?
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Do you remember the Crown Royal stink pot in the back window?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (Wg6v7)
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89 Hopefully now we can get away from 1.3L 3 or 4 cylinder engines with turbos powering cars.
gotta admit DanMa'am's Lincoln Nautilus with it's 300hp 1.8 ltr, 4 cylinder that wrings out 27 mpg is not a bad rig.
Posted by: DanMan at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (8uzBS)
Power generation isn't necessarily the concern. Engine longevity - or more specifically the longevity of the turbo itself. One of the fins from the turbo lets go, your engine is going to ingest it. Bad things happen then.
gotta admit DanMa'am's Lincoln Nautilus with it's 300hp 1.8 ltr, 4 cylinder that wrings out 27 mpg is not a bad rig.
Posted by: DanMan at December 08, 2025 11:28 AM (8uzBS)
Power generation isn't necessarily the concern. Engine longevity - or more specifically the longevity of the turbo itself. One of the fins from the turbo lets go, your engine is going to ingest it. Bad things happen then.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (N39Ws)
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I've got a 2022 Honda CRV. Overall pretty good, but rain rolls off the side of the roof and, if the window is open, it falls into the passenger compartment. I've never had a car that dis that in my life. I'm guessing it's due to shaping the roof for some minuscule aerodynamic improvement.
The car also has a turbocharged, relatively small 1.6 L engine, which apparently is sort of stressed and probably won't last a long time. Same reason as the roof, I guess.
I've got a 2022 Honda CRV. Overall pretty good, but rain rolls off the side of the roof and, if the window is open, it falls into the passenger compartment. I've never had a car that dis that in my life. I'm guessing it's due to shaping the roof for some minuscule aerodynamic improvement.
The car also has a turbocharged, relatively small 1.6 L engine, which apparently is sort of stressed and probably won't last a long time. Same reason as the roof, I guess.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (d4X7t)
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There should be a button with an A in a circle that you press to turn off auto stop. You have to press it every time you start your truck.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025
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There was something like that on the '15 BMW 3 Series. But beginning with that model year, it was possible to turn it off once and have the car remember that choice.
True, it cut itself back in if you selected "ECO" (economy mode) for the transmission. But you could turn it off and it would stay off.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025
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There was something like that on the '15 BMW 3 Series. But beginning with that model year, it was possible to turn it off once and have the car remember that choice.
True, it cut itself back in if you selected "ECO" (economy mode) for the transmission. But you could turn it off and it would stay off.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (wzUl9)
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187 Tangential:
I think it was Bessent who revealed last week that the deregulation to regulation ratio right now in Trump's 2nd administration is 48-1.
His first term, it was about 10-1.
And, in a post Chevron world, all new regs written are open to judicial review instead of assumed to be valid like it was under Chevron.
Putting regulations back will be a lot harder than taking them out or originally putting them in, and Trump is tearing out a lot of regulation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
It was Russ Vought who made that declaration. That man is an MVP candidate for best Trump appointment.
I think it was Bessent who revealed last week that the deregulation to regulation ratio right now in Trump's 2nd administration is 48-1.
His first term, it was about 10-1.
And, in a post Chevron world, all new regs written are open to judicial review instead of assumed to be valid like it was under Chevron.
Putting regulations back will be a lot harder than taking them out or originally putting them in, and Trump is tearing out a lot of regulation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
It was Russ Vought who made that declaration. That man is an MVP candidate for best Trump appointment.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (0CU3H)
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Eh, prefer pork to beef anway. No doubt there will be a huge pork crisis coming soon.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (pDt9x)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (pkeXY)
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179 172 168 Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
Posted by: pine tree air freshener
What about the triangle vent window you can pop open to flick your ash and cigarette butts out the window without having to roll the window down and have the risk of the wind mussing up your carefully pomaded hairdo?
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
Posted by: pine tree air freshener
What about the triangle vent window you can pop open to flick your ash and cigarette butts out the window without having to roll the window down and have the risk of the wind mussing up your carefully pomaded hairdo?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (AhmTX)
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198 It was Russ Vought who made that declaration. That man is an MVP candidate for best Trump appointment.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (0CU3H)
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Vought makes a whole lot more sense to make the declaration. Thanks.
He good.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (0CU3H)
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Vought makes a whole lot more sense to make the declaration. Thanks.
He good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Bureaucrats have de facto outlawed gasoline engines by their “CAFE” standards. This is a feature, not a bug, and completely intentional. An example of the “nudge” Cass Sunstein wrote about.
If you peasants won’t do the right thing “voluntarily” then they’ll force the issue with byzantine rules and regulations. It’s for your own good, you see. “We know best”
If you peasants won’t do the right thing “voluntarily” then they’ll force the issue with byzantine rules and regulations. It’s for your own good, you see. “We know best”
Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (vJgBB)
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Humphrey's Executor and the whole independent agency (and the Merit system) were a reaction by Congress to rein in the executive.
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I really like the "But it's (Humphrey's) has been the law for over 100 years!!" argument.
Yes, and ...? We got along just fine for more than 100 years before it became the "law."
But I'm especially disgusted with the unstated implication that these "independent" agencies are run by this class of high holy priests untainted by any partisan or personal bias, selflessly serving to solely protect the people.
That to remove them is the uncouth mob killing humble monk philosopher-kings who merely wanted what was best for everyone.
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I really like the "But it's (Humphrey's) has been the law for over 100 years!!" argument.
Yes, and ...? We got along just fine for more than 100 years before it became the "law."
But I'm especially disgusted with the unstated implication that these "independent" agencies are run by this class of high holy priests untainted by any partisan or personal bias, selflessly serving to solely protect the people.
That to remove them is the uncouth mob killing humble monk philosopher-kings who merely wanted what was best for everyone.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (HXT0k)
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‘ Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.’
Spank the monkey. Work the clutch. White knuckle it.
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‘ Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.’
Spank the monkey. Work the clutch. White knuckle it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)
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EVs are proof that people are stupid and malleable and will buy shit in a bag once conditioned.
Posted by: Dumb And Dumber at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (bwkZy)
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I'm not quite sure that Biden's Ag Secretary had anything to do with the size of the beef herd. There were droughts and feed price increases that were probably the cause. Here's a 2024 article from the Farm Bureau that anticipated this situation:
https://archive.is/3iszt
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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That's why beef prices didn't soar along with the rest of Biden inflation. Also, there was some cutback on water to ranchers by the Fed, I think.
https://archive.is/3iszt
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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That's why beef prices didn't soar along with the rest of Biden inflation. Also, there was some cutback on water to ranchers by the Fed, I think.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (kf2Bq)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (MVEnt)
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So... if hybrids (plug-in) are burning... do we finally get gas tanks exploding? Do we a fire engulfing the structure AND a gasoline bomb?
This just gets awesomer and awesomer!
This just gets awesomer and awesomer!
Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (nHPsW)
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LGBTQ+ advocacy group complains that almost half of the queer characters on TV will be gone by next year
___________________
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
___________________
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
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"Because sounding like Alvin & the Chipmunks always lightens the mood."
You are thinking of Helium. Different gas from Nitrous Oxide entirely. Or so I have been told.
You are thinking of Helium. Different gas from Nitrous Oxide entirely. Or so I have been told.
Posted by: Martin Tell at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (sFNX2)
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199 Eh, prefer pork to beef anway. No doubt there will be a huge pork crisis coming soon.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (pDt9x)
"Insh'allah, Kuffar."
--Muslim Conquerors
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (pDt9x)
"Insh'allah, Kuffar."
--Muslim Conquerors
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (UnA8+)
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Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (MVEnt)
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We are eating the breeding heifers, that is a bit of a problem.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (pDt9x)
216
All Teslas have a door release switch in the recess of the door. They literally warn you not to use the cable and pull tab release for everyday door use. It"s not hidden or secret...
Posted by: EddieS at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (Zz/IG)
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technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years"
Not really. It's packaging and smoke blowing.
Not really. It's packaging and smoke blowing.
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (AhmTX)
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I'm not quite sure that Biden's Ag Secretary had anything to do with the size of the beef herd. There were droughts and feed price increases that were probably the cause. Here's a 2024 article from the Farm Bureau that anticipated this situation:
https://archive.is/3iszt
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Also, there was the screwworm thing.
https://archive.is/3iszt
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Also, there was the screwworm thing.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (77rzZ)
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So we have a Soviet style command economy for beef?"
/sugar waves hi!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (AhmTX)
Hold my beer....
-------Corn
/sugar waves hi!
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:42 AM (AhmTX)
Hold my beer....
-------Corn
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)
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Firefighters are already putting their lives at risk to protect us all. Driving or selling EVs is a selfish act that unnecessarily makes a firefighter’s job even more dangerous.
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Imma gonna start yelling at EV owners:
"Why you hate firefighters, yo?"
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Imma gonna start yelling at EV owners:
"Why you hate firefighters, yo?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (hkN5q)
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199 Eh, prefer pork to beef anway. No doubt there will be a huge pork crisis coming soon.
Posted by: tubal
Doin' our part, Boss!
Posted by: tubal
Doin' our part, Boss!
Posted by: Trichinella Rights Coalition at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (oftw2)
222
172 168 Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
Posted by: pine tree air freshener at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM
Pffft!
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Heated seats are better.
what am i? chopped liver?
Posted by: pine tree air freshener at December 08, 2025 11:49 AM
Pffft!
Posted by: Truck Nutz at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (bFu5X)
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Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera."
Necker knob.
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (AhmTX)
Seats that go back far and fold down flat.
Necker knob.
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:53 AM (AhmTX)
Seats that go back far and fold down flat.
Posted by: Young Man at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (wVcYX)
224
blood clots at all-time high?
related to the Democrats' vaccine?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Two words: Yes
related to the Democrats' vaccine?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Two words: Yes
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (9bIJg)
225
211
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (N39Ws)
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"Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner."
Is that real? I saw ad for it and just chalked it up as clever, satirical meme.
Is that real? I saw ad for it and just chalked it up as clever, satirical meme.
Posted by: Martin Tell at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (sFNX2)
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It was Russ Vought who made that declaration. That man is an MVP candidate for best Trump appointment.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (0CU3H)
Considering he's single-handedly trying to do the job of 535 Congresscritters, I'd say he's a shoo-in for the award.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 08, 2025 11:52 AM (0CU3H)
Considering he's single-handedly trying to do the job of 535 Congresscritters, I'd say he's a shoo-in for the award.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (dGCAG)
228
Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Screwworm.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Screwworm.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
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And didn't Democrat ecoterrorist arsonist destroy cattle (and chickens) and everyone pretended it wasn't arson?
And didn't Democrat ecoterrorist arsonist destroy cattle (and chickens) and everyone pretended it wasn't arson?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (MVEnt)
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221 199 Eh, prefer pork to beef anway. No doubt there will be a huge pork crisis coming soon.
Posted by: tubal
Doin' our part, Boss!
Posted by: Trichinella Rights Coalition at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (oftw2)
True dat, though I do prefer my pork cooked.
Posted by: tubal
Doin' our part, Boss!
Posted by: Trichinella Rights Coalition at December 08, 2025 11:56 AM (oftw2)
True dat, though I do prefer my pork cooked.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:57 AM (pDt9x)
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Heated seats are better.
Posted by: Pudinhead
A steering wheel heater/cooler would be nice.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025
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The LaCrosse has heated/cooled seats and a heated steering wheel. The heated feature seems unnecessary to me. After all, if the weather is cold enough for that, I'll be wearing clothes and gloves.
The cooled seat is not bad, but it makes me think my pants are wet in the back.
Posted by: Pudinhead
A steering wheel heater/cooler would be nice.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025
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The LaCrosse has heated/cooled seats and a heated steering wheel. The heated feature seems unnecessary to me. After all, if the weather is cold enough for that, I'll be wearing clothes and gloves.
The cooled seat is not bad, but it makes me think my pants are wet in the back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:57 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:57 AM (wzUl9)
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I just delved into the "solar" world and learned a thing or two.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
I have nothing against photovoltaics, as long as I'm not forced to buy or subsidize them. Free power from sunlight? Sure, provided it meets my criteria for initial cost, duty cycle, and reliability.
The problem is when government forces you to use what they want, regardless of the fact that those attempting to force you couldn't pass a simple physics class.
1. the technology has improved significantly in the last 5 years
2. costs have gone down enough that one *might* break even on the investment before the components wear out/break.
I have nothing against photovoltaics, as long as I'm not forced to buy or subsidize them. Free power from sunlight? Sure, provided it meets my criteria for initial cost, duty cycle, and reliability.
The problem is when government forces you to use what they want, regardless of the fact that those attempting to force you couldn't pass a simple physics class.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
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Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
*
Screwworm.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025
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Well, sure, that's what everybody called Biden, but what was the purported beef problem?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
*
Screwworm.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025
***
Well, sure, that's what everybody called Biden, but what was the purported beef problem?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (wzUl9)
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We are eating the breeding heifers, that is a bit of a problem"
The "feed costs" bit is funny. Who do you think was driving said costs?
The "feed costs" bit is funny. Who do you think was driving said costs?
Posted by: man at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (AhmTX)
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Pennsylvania is determined to go with it: State Energy Program, Electric Vehicle Transportation.
But Shapiro shall NEVER take responsibility for anything gone wrong, imo.
>Delaware Valley's Regional Planning Commission, DVRPC Board Boosts Funding for Electric Vehicle Infrastructure, Nov 14, 2025
The DVRPC region will see new electric vehicle infrastructure projects in counties across Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
>Transportation
With 20th EV Charging Station, Pennsylvania Leads Nation
The debut this week of its 20th federally funded electric vehicle charging outpost puts it ahead of other states for stations built using National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure program funds.
October 06, 2025 • Bill O Boyle, The Times Leader
🤡
But Shapiro shall NEVER take responsibility for anything gone wrong, imo.
>Delaware Valley's Regional Planning Commission, DVRPC Board Boosts Funding for Electric Vehicle Infrastructure, Nov 14, 2025
The DVRPC region will see new electric vehicle infrastructure projects in counties across Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
>Transportation
With 20th EV Charging Station, Pennsylvania Leads Nation
The debut this week of its 20th federally funded electric vehicle charging outpost puts it ahead of other states for stations built using National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure program funds.
October 06, 2025 • Bill O Boyle, The Times Leader
🤡
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: The Barrel at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (bFu5X)
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Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Screwworm.
Posted by: Bulg
Okay, okay. I'll leave.
No need to be rude.
Didn't biden admin dispatch a bunch of cattle (for some idiotic reason)?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History
Screwworm.
Posted by: Bulg
Okay, okay. I'll leave.
No need to be rude.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (MVEnt)
240
California outlawed the sale of portable and not so gasoline generators slated to take effect in the next year or two.
The apologists are comical. “They aren’t really illegal, you can still buy one in another state and bring it to California”. Sure, Jan. For how much longer? What about chainsaws? Lawnmowers.
Bureaucracy destroyed one of the finest, lightweight mowers ever - the 2-stroke LawnBoy.
The apologists are comical. “They aren’t really illegal, you can still buy one in another state and bring it to California”. Sure, Jan. For how much longer? What about chainsaws? Lawnmowers.
Bureaucracy destroyed one of the finest, lightweight mowers ever - the 2-stroke LawnBoy.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (vJgBB)
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At DM, "Northern Illinois, including Lake and Cook counties, may see 3 to 5 inches through Tuesday morning, with the heaviest snowfall expected overnight Monday."
Cripes. I've already had to dig my car out four times this season so far.
Cripes. I've already had to dig my car out four times this season so far.
Posted by: gp at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (GHIyr)
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Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
"No one can see what goes on 2500 feet down".
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
"No one can see what goes on 2500 feet down".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (9bIJg)
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197 There should be a button with an A in a circle that you press to turn off auto stop. You have to press it every time you start your truck.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025
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There should be no AutoStop. It's one of the stupidest and hardest thing to do on a reciprocating engine.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025
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There should be no AutoStop. It's one of the stupidest and hardest thing to do on a reciprocating engine.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (kf2Bq)
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168 Best tech invention for cars is the backup camera.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (pDt9x)
Yes, but it has led to the epidemic of people backing into parking spaces at the supermarket.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:46 AM (pDt9x)
Yes, but it has led to the epidemic of people backing into parking spaces at the supermarket.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (0bjKf)
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182
S
‘ Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.’
Spank the monkey. Work the clutch. White knuckle it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)
Hello!
S
‘ Lope the mule. Bop the bishop. Road head.’
Spank the monkey. Work the clutch. White knuckle it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)
Hello!
Posted by: Auto Blow at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (wVcYX)
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I'll get you, my Wolfus. And your little dog, too!
-- The Barrel
-- The Barrel
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (77rzZ)
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237 I do prefer my pork cooked.
Posted by: tubal
That sounds like a euphemism for something.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)
It’s a Netflix movie title.
Posted by: tubal
That sounds like a euphemism for something.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)
It’s a Netflix movie title.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (pDt9x)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (qHHvj)
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LGBTQ+ advocacy group complains that almost half of the queer characters on TV will be gone by next year
You mean shoving their agenda in our faces 24/7 DIDN'T turn us into advocates for big anus? Who'da thought?
You mean shoving their agenda in our faces 24/7 DIDN'T turn us into advocates for big anus? Who'da thought?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (Riz8t)
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Cattle herds are also lower because some of the studliest bulls decided a better life was to work at "milking" farms where lonely mentally-ill women jerked them off all day.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
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211
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM
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"Coal Miner's Humiliating Offspring."
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Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM
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"Coal Miner's Humiliating Offspring."
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 08, 2025 11:59 AM (d4X7t)
252
Bureaucracy destroyed one of the finest, lightweight mowers ever - the 2-stroke LawnBoy Juan.
Posted by: Common Tater
Fixed.
Posted by: Common Tater
Fixed.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 12:00 PM (9bIJg)
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247 Ha!
Posted by: gp at December 08, 2025 12:00 PM (GHIyr)
254
Tell them to calm their tits. Netflix just released a movie about a transsexual coal miner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
"No one can see what goes on 2500 feet down".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM
Great...Cokeback Mountain. No Thanks.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 08, 2025 11:55 AM (5dL1W)
"Bustin' rocks, suckin' c***s"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
"No one can see what goes on 2500 feet down".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2025 11:58 AM
Great...Cokeback Mountain. No Thanks.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2025 12:00 PM (bFu5X)
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Mobility is one of the biggest freedoms a person can have. The boom that happened with the advent of the auto is unbelievable. The ability of those without wealth to pick up and relocate to where they might make a go of things cannot be understated. And the push for the uber-rich left to take away that mobility -- and house those without choices into "15-minute cities" of their own making -- ought not be disregarded. It's purposeful. It's insidious. And we're not far from it being forced upon us.
Posted by: red speck at December 08, 2025 12:00 PM (Ve/HL)
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Bureaucracy destroyed one of the finest, lightweight mowers ever - the 2-stroke LawnBoy.
Posted by: Common Tater
Was at Best Buy yesterday. I didn't realize they sold lawn mowers, or washers and dryers.
Posted by: Common Tater
Was at Best Buy yesterday. I didn't realize they sold lawn mowers, or washers and dryers.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)
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Our new-hire IT dork recently purchased a F-150 EV. Brand spanking new. He came to me with a request; can I install a 120v, 15a receptacle in his new truck? I laughed at him and told him to fuck off.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (1zOXE)
258
Solar is getting better but it's still cheaper to hook to the grid if it's available. For off grid it's great while the sun is shining, but you better have some backup.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (vFG9F)
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Taking the long view, the electric starter, and power steering. No contest.
The alternator, electronic ignition, and fuel injection. Anyone can operate a car now. And they do, sadly.
The alternator, electronic ignition, and fuel injection. Anyone can operate a car now. And they do, sadly.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (vJgBB)
260
Having been a coal miner, a Tranny in the mines would not last long.
Posted by: tubal at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (pDt9x)
261
The perverted NF movie about faggot trannies in coal mines is real. Saw a promo for it. Or rather, a promo was forced on me.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 08, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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-- and house those without choices into "15-minute cities" of their own making -- ought not be disregarded. It's purposeful. It's insidious. And we're not far from it being forced upon us.
____
They were going to go with "Serf-towns", but 15-minute cities polled better.
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They were going to go with "Serf-towns", but 15-minute cities polled better.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2025 12:02 PM (Dv3i1)
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Shadowy unelected faceless bureaucrats with hidden agendas always work out well.
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Yeah, the document that starts out "We the People" really meant "but not for the really important stuff."
That's what's so inane about all this--in no world is it reasonable to say anyone is free from partisan influence or petty motives.
But we're supposed to pretend slapping an "independent!" label on naked partisan governance is really independent.
And "can not be fired" by the President is really accountable ... to Congress--who also can not fire them!
Must be under the "You People Can't Be Trusted With This" Clause ....
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Yeah, the document that starts out "We the People" really meant "but not for the really important stuff."
That's what's so inane about all this--in no world is it reasonable to say anyone is free from partisan influence or petty motives.
But we're supposed to pretend slapping an "independent!" label on naked partisan governance is really independent.
And "can not be fired" by the President is really accountable ... to Congress--who also can not fire them!
Must be under the "You People Can't Be Trusted With This" Clause ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 08, 2025 12:02 PM (HXT0k)
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"Yes, but it has led to the epidemic of people backing into parking spaces at the supermarket."
Disagree here. I have always backed into parking place. Never know when you may need to quick exit. LE vehicles always park that way.
Disagree here. I have always backed into parking place. Never know when you may need to quick exit. LE vehicles always park that way.
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