A Refugee Group Was Repeatedly Warned That the Killer of the National Guardswoman Was "Spiraling" Into "Mania," But No Official Action Seems to Have Been Taken

A refugee group was repeatedly warned that the National Guardsmen assassin was "spiraling" into mental illness but apparently no law enforcement or immigration courts were alerted.

A leading national refugee agency was warned multiple times that the Afghan terror suspect accused of murdering one National Guard member and critically injuring another was spiraling into mania and mental illness beginning in 2023, according to a bombshell email leak.
Despite this, and an alleged failure to maintain his mandated contact with state social services, he still managed to win asylum in April of this year.
Rahmanullah Lakanwal's behavior was so disturbing that a local community advocate reached out to a refugee organization for help, according to emails to the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants (USCRI) seen by the Associated Press.
"Rahmanullah has not been functional as a person, father, and provider since March of last year [2023]. He quit his job that month, and his behavior has changed greatly," the community member wrote in January 2024.
The community member said he feared that Lakanwal had become suicidal.

...
He was brought to the US in 2021 under Operation Allies Welcome, moving to Bellingham, Washington, with his wife and their five young sons.
But he reportedly struggled to assimilate, failed to hold down a steady job or commit to learning English, according to the emails.
Alternating between "periods of dark isolation and reckless travel," Lakanwal sometimes spent weeks in his "darkened room, not speaking to anyone, not even his wife or older kids," the person wrote.
During these "manic episodes," he would reportedly "take off in the family car, and drive nonstop," the email outlined, leaving for up to two weeks at a time on his own, driving as far as Chicago or Arizona.
Lakanwal also failed to stay in contact with the Washington State Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) as was mandated by the terms of his entry into the US, except for "interim" weeks where he would "do the right things," according to the emails.

And I guess Washington State didn't alert anyone, either.

He was so depressed that the community member feared he would harm himself, according to the emails.
When his wife would leave him with the kids for a week while she traveled to visit relatives, his children would go to school unwashed and in dirty clothes without having eaten well, according to the person.
The children's school raised concerns about his behavior, and the family even faced eviction at one point in 2023 after months of not paying rent.
In response to two emails, the USCRI tried to visit Lakanwal and his family in Bellingham in March 2024, according to the author of the emails.
After they received no updates, they believed that Lakanwal had refused assistance.
It's unclear whether the community member or USCRI reported the mental distress to immigration authorities or law enforcement.

Trump announced another step to control immigration: work permits will only be issued for 18 months at a time, instead of the five years they're currently issued for.

That means that fraudsters will have to interact with government officials more often, and hopefully more fraud will be discovered and more badly-behaving "asylum seekers" will be kicked out.

The Trump administration is dramatically scaling back the timeframe in which asylum seekers and other foreign nationals can have valid work permits in the U.S.
Work permits issued to foreign nationals who’ve applied for asylum or other humanitarian programs will only be valid for 18 months rather than five years, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announced on Thursday. The decision marks the latest action by the agency tasked with managing the country’s immigration system, since two National Guard members were ambushed by an Afghan man shortly before Thanksgiving.

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1 First

Posted by: Dad of Six at December 04, 2025 05:43 PM (+OGAU)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 04, 2025 05:43 PM (5IH8V)

3 Nooded.

Posted by: Dad of Six at December 04, 2025 05:44 PM (+OGAU)

4 Of course nothing was done. They thought he might be useful in the future.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 04, 2025 05:44 PM (lUFok)

5 Don't take the gray acid!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 05:46 PM (9ipOP)

6
But the statue of liberty says on it :“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

-Lib thought process

Who cares if they want to slit all our throats, steal as much as they can, and mooch for eternity.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (IifOV)

7
What a load of bullshit.

We're only getting Half the story.

The other half, I suspect, is he was spending all his time on the Internet, getting radicalized by the Fake News, probably Al Jazeera, which is an arm of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Soothsayer Historic Facts at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (UQlqo)

8 "All the leaves are brown... and the boxes are grey!"

-- The Mama's and the Papas, if they still existed and were commenting here.

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (0Aoc4)

9 Trump announced another step to control immigration: work permits will only be issued for 18 months at a time, instead of the five years they're currently issued for.
====

Simple solution, but they need the staffing to enforce the limit.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 05:48 PM (9ipOP)

10 You’re all so GREY!

Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 05:48 PM (3uBP9)

11 And I guess Washington State didn't alert anyone, either.

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Rule #1 Lib virtue signaling: Don't report people of color, it would be racists.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 04, 2025 05:48 PM (IifOV)

12 This is a cover story for all the 'good' Afghans.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (xacU7)

13 I really, really wish Congress would enact some of these things Trump is doing into law. What Trump is doing, another president can just wave a pen and undo.

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (0Aoc4)

14 The comments button was in the gray box. this is what happens.

Posted by: no one at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (W7XSX)

15 So grey, so easy on the eyes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (xacU7)

16 All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray
I've been for a walk on a winter's day
I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A.
California dreamin' on such a winter's day

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (6ydKt)

17
I'm sure this Afghani was at home watching AlJazeera USA, BBC, and MSNBC which gave him all the intellectual brainwashing he needed.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 04, 2025 05:49 PM (IifOV)

18 If you see something -and it doesn't involve a politically favored group- say something.

Posted by: Wally at December 04, 2025 05:50 PM (woib/)

19 Every comment has a silver lining.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 05:51 PM (E0p3T)

20 The soft bigotry of low expectations, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2025 05:51 PM (Hkcdp)

21 How’d he afford all the gas to drive to Arizona and Chicago and still afford to send his wife on vacation for a week when he was out of work?

Oh, we paid for it, I see.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 05:51 PM (6ydKt)

22 If you're expecting sensible governing from Washington state, you are dooming yourself to disappointment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 04, 2025 05:52 PM (Fmmqy)

23 Sigh...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 05:52 PM (Zv8bq)

24 By the way, in the last thread where I was talking to myself, Melania is wearing a Burberry Bird Button cashmere wool military coat in her Christmas video.

Posted by: Piper at December 04, 2025 05:52 PM (OoFl2)

25
Say, do you have any grey poopoo boxes?

-html close tag polizei

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 04, 2025 05:52 PM (QVmho)

26 Al Jazeera, which is an arm of the Democrat party.
Posted by: Soothsayer Historic Facts at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (UQlqo)

More likely the Democrat Party is an arm of Al Jazeera.

Wait didn't Al Gore have some global warming channel that became Al Jazeera?

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 05:53 PM (E0p3T)

27 13 I really, really wish Congress would enact some of these things Trump is doing into law.
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You see what chickenshit Johnson did and is doing to Elise Stefanik. Congress sub-Pubs don't like aggressive members.
The light is much too bright.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 04, 2025 05:53 PM (xacU7)

28 ~~A Refugee Group Was Repeatedly Warned That the Killer of the National Guardswoman Was "Spiraling" Into "Mania," But No Official Action Seems to Have Been Taken~~

America Was Repeatedly Warned That the Political Left Was "Spiraling" Into "Mania," But No Official Action Seems to Have Been Taken

Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2025 05:53 PM (oraVG)

29 19 Every comment has a silver lining.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 05:51 PM (E0p3T)

++++

And none of that blue-collar, low-brow, multi-colored formatting.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 04, 2025 05:53 PM (5WRNg)

30 17
I'm sure this Afghani was at home watching AlJazeera USA, BBC, and MSNBC which gave him all the intellectual brainwashing he needed.
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I have a Pakistani coworker who HATES Afghans. She constantly talks about their brutality and how Pakistan deported them en masse and put up massive border walls to keep them out.

I don't think Afghans need brainwashing. They are just so medieval that they go nuts outside of a their natural goat-infested habit. That and they are expected to not murder people on a regular basis. Read "The Great Game" by Peter Hopkirk to see how bloodthirsty and duplicitous these people were and are.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 04, 2025 05:54 PM (UdiE9)

31 CBD, not all heroes wear capes. In fact, they shouldn’t wear capes at all. 😊, but the point is, I see what you do.

Posted by: Piper at December 04, 2025 05:54 PM (OoFl2)

32 It's actually a problem. Report a family member to any agency, and what happens?
Maybe a phone call. If a visit, then a note is put in their "folder".
Very, very few laws with teeth for mentally ill.

Posted by: MkY at December 04, 2025 05:54 PM (q6tQZ)

33 1. Dems create chaos, media silent
2. Trump implements new reasonable responses to reduce chaos.
3. Dems scream that Trump is creating chaos, media amplifies.
4. Rinse and Repeat

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 04, 2025 05:55 PM (Dv3i1)

34 Good think Washington State has a red flag law to catch and care for people like this before they ~~vote republican~~ commit violence

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2025 05:55 PM (rbvCR)

35 A refugee group was repeatedly warned that the National Guardsmen assassin was "spiraling" into mental illness but apparently no law enforcement or immigration courts were alerted."

Why would anyone expect anything different? That murderer was part of the "tribe" and they protect members of the tribe against anyone not in the tribe.

The middle east and south east asia are for the most part tribal based. If you are not part of the tribe you are either an enemy or a potential victim.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 04, 2025 05:55 PM (0N4FZ)

36 I see what you do.

Posted by: Piper at December 04, 2025 05:54 PM (OoFl2)

I'm just a Melania fanboy!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 05:56 PM (Zv8bq)

37 “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to rape and murder freely.”

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2025 05:56 PM (vbXSk)

38 So...social services and child protection were never called when Terrorist Daddy sent the kids dirty and hungry to school? That should have been a red flag. Of course the mother was insane herself to leave them if she knew her husband was off his turban.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 04, 2025 05:56 PM (WONhk)

39 32 It's actually a problem. Report a family member to any agency, and what happens?
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Trouble.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 04, 2025 05:57 PM (xacU7)

40 Welfare benefits allowed him to be able to afford go off on two week driving trips while not being able to hold a job.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 05:57 PM (sDNVV)

41 Is everyone in government incompetent and/or corrupt? Is that a job requirement?

Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 05:57 PM (vFG9F)

42 The media is always super concerned about the bad guys.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (z3/Ck)

43 Muslims are very susceptible to spinning out of control.

Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (YwEeS)

44 fd, 89.5% yes

Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (sDNVV)

45 We make a very, VERY big assumption that the people who staff IO/NGOs place national loyalty over ideological.

Posted by: sven at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (MUJd1)

46
A sparky of moody and depressed divinity, he was.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (xG4kz)

47 That means that fraudsters will have to interact with government officials more often ...

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Not to worry, comrade -- the Democrat-Communist Party will be deploying an AI Bot App called "CCP One" to help assist illegal alien invader fraudsters for & with that!

/only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 06:00 PM (pG0Ez)

48 -- The Mama's and the Papas, if they still existed and were commenting here.
Posted by: SimoHayha at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (0Aoc4)

And if the Papa banging his own daughter didnt make the whole thing gross.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)

49 You call it spiraling out of control, we call it jihad, or intifada, or normal Islam.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2025 06:01 PM (vbXSk)

50 Welfare benefits allowed him to be able to afford go off on two week driving trips while not being able to hold a job.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 05:57 PM (sDNVV)

I question if he didn't have a job. He may have had a job that required him to drive long distances, or at least be gone for weeks at a time.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2025 06:01 PM (rbvCR)

51 If you subscribe to the notion that illegals aliens do crime. Why would you import them?

There are many answers.

Let's start there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 04, 2025 06:01 PM (NwnyJ)

52 When all is said and done, much more will be said than done.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (wVcYX)

53 So...social services and child protection were never called when Terrorist Daddy sent the kids dirty and hungry to school? That should have been a red flag. Of course the mother was insane herself to leave them if she knew her husband was off his turban.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 04, 2025 05:56 PM

They had five sons. Plenty to spare.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (fxCK2)

54 @6 ..the statue of Liberty says give us your.....

I said about two months ago they should sand blast that crap off the statue. They can keep their moochers and murders. We don't need or want them.

Posted by: Case at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (5Je/N)

55 Warnings schmornings

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (z3/Ck)

56 "Welfare benefits allowed him to be able to afford go off on two week driving trips while not being able to hold a job.
Posted by: Ben Had"

Did they say what kind of car he had? How about where the gun came from?

Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (vFG9F)

57 am I supposed to have a scintilla of sympathy for this guy?

charge him
indict him
try him
convict him
sentence him
execute him

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (+G4fB)

58 Kindltot, not according to the related above.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (sDNVV)

59 >>> How’d he afford all the gas to drive to Arizona and Chicago and still afford to send his wife on vacation for a week when he was out of work?

Oh, we paid for it, I see.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 05:51 PM (6ydKt)

This reminds me, today I was informed by my HR and the retirement fund that I've been designated as a HCE (Highly Compensated Employee).My ass. WTF..

So new rule going into the next year is I'm not allowed to save as much in my 401K and even catch up is penalized, limited. Because I just have it too f'ing good. MFers. All of them. I drive a shit car, I never vacation, all my money goes to my family, I'm the only earner, I pay for private school because schools in GA suck. So once again I'm screwed. I knew this was coming and read about it earlier. But these sobs. Pisses the hell out of me. And these rat bastards in the government trade off of their inside info all day and all become millionaires. I will never be a millionaire. I'll have to work until I'm f'ing 150. They can shove HCE right up their squeaker.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (3uBP9)

60 The Mongolian Beef was worth the drive in the rain.

Posted by: toby928(c) reports at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (jV8WQ)

61 Not First!!

Posted by: Blanco at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (q83gU)

62 I'm sure this Afghani was at home watching AlJazeera USA, BBC, and MSNBC which gave him all the intellectual brainwashing he needed.
Posted by: Frank Baro

CNN alone will.do it.

Posted by: Hunter at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (XTlsM)

63 They had five sons. Plenty to spare.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM

They blow up so fast.

Posted by: toby928(c) reports at December 04, 2025 06:05 PM (jV8WQ)

64 59 And these rat bastards in the government trade off of their inside info all day and all become millionaires.

i doubt that. it would cut into time for surfing pronhub.

Posted by: anachronda at December 04, 2025 06:05 PM (v3pYe)

65 I guess the CIA will have to take his card out of their rolodex now.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:06 PM (jV8WQ)

66 I'll have to work until I'm f'ing 150. They can shove HCE right up their squeaker.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM

I'm sorry to hear this. Can you put money in a personal IRA instead?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 04, 2025 06:06 PM (fxCK2)

67 60 The Mongolian Beef was worth the drive in the rain.
Posted by: toby928(c)

It's yak that died of natural causes.

Posted by: Mon Lee Take Out at December 04, 2025 06:07 PM (oftw2)

68 So new rule going into the next year is I'm not allowed to save as much in my 401K and even catch up is penalized, limited.

Might it be possible to establish an IRA and put what you can no longer put in the 401K into it?

Posted by: Adriane the Not Enough Christmas Lights, the Planes Be Not Yet Circling the House Critic . . . at December 04, 2025 06:07 PM (3ZUWJ)

69 I don't subscribe to the idea of "radicalization"

It is a pointless discussion anyway. The source of his radicalization is his religion. When we are ready to shut that down, call me.

You think making Al Jazeera unavailable in the U.S. would really have made a difference? I think that is weak sauce.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 06:08 PM (9ipOP)

70 Is it mental illness when he's acting on his engrained religious?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 04, 2025 06:08 PM (ZbPL4)

71 >>> I'm sorry to hear this. Can you put money in a personal IRA instead?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 04, 2025 06:06 PM (fxCK2)

Yes, I'll be shifting the balance to an IRA instead. Still pisses me off though. Greedy f'ers.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 06:08 PM (3uBP9)

72 67 60 The Mongolian Beef was worth the drive in the rain.
Posted by: toby928(c)

It's yak that died of natural causes.

instead of doggy bags, they give you yakkety sacks.

Posted by: anachronda at December 04, 2025 06:09 PM (v3pYe)

73 ~~A Refugee Group Was Repeatedly Warned That the Killer of the National Guardswoman Was "Spiraling" Into "Mania," But No Official Action Seems to Have Been Taken~~

America Was Repeatedly Warned That the Political Left Was "Spiraling" Into "Mania," But No Official Action Seems to Have Been Taken
Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2025 05:53 PM

I snorted out loud.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:09 PM (jV8WQ)

74 Kindltot, not according to the related above.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (sDNVV)

Not a job that paid with a w-4 and paid withholding, no.

But, living near an international border, with job skills from previous work with Afghani militia and coordinating with the CIA, missing for weeks at a time.
OK, it could be aimless driving. He could also be a courier, some sort of mule, or do other things.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM (rbvCR)

75 It's yak that died of natural causes.

It was quite chewy.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM (jV8WQ)

76 Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (3uBP9)

If it's any consolation, you could be David French watching his wife getting railed by three guys at once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM (zZu0s)

77 5 It's yak that died of natural causes.

It was quite chewy.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM (jV8WQ)

Murdered Yak is tender?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM (zZu0s)

78
Papa was a rolling stone.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 04, 2025 06:11 PM (xG4kz)

79 instead of doggy bags, they give you yakkety sacks.
Posted by: anachronda at December 04, 2025 06:09 PM (v3pYe)

Damn. Close it up, boys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:11 PM (zZu0s)

80 the statue of Liberty says give us your.....

I said about two months ago they should sand blast that crap off the statue. They can keep their moochers and murders. We don't need or want them.

Posted by: Case at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (5Je/N)

The Statue of Liberty is kaput.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 04, 2025 06:12 PM (Fmmqy)

81 MacArthur Park actually would be better if it was about BBQ.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:12 PM (zZu0s)

82 14 hours after I left for work I am finally home
And my phone volume stopped working

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:13 PM (Ia/+0)

83 41 Is everyone in government incompetent and/or corrupt? Is that a job requirement?
Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 05:57 PM (vFG9F)

Yes and all they seem to care about is their intentions, not results.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 04, 2025 06:13 PM (AZf41)

84 The Mongolian Beef was worth the drive in the rain.
Posted by: toby928(c)
====

Boy F. will walk into any Chinese place in our neighborhood and the chef will immediately fire up Mongolian Beef

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 06:13 PM (9ipOP)

85 63 They had five sons. Plenty to spare.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM

They blow up so fast.
Posted by: toby928(c) reports at December 04, 2025 06:05 PM (jV8WQ)

OK, I laughed at that one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2025 06:14 PM (7RUcP)

86 Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
20h
NEW: Per just-released DOD IG report, Biden forfeited "96,000 ground vehicles, 51,180 general purpose/light tactical vehicles, 23,825 [Humvees], nearly 900 armored combat vehicles, 427,300 weapons, 17,400 helmet-worn night vision devices and at least 162 aircraft" to the Taliban.
Dec 4, 2025 · 2:45 AM UTC

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2025 06:14 PM (rbvCR)

87 Skip welcome home

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 06:14 PM (9ipOP)

88 the statue of Liberty says give us your.....

I said about two months ago they should sand blast that crap off the statue. They can keep their moochers and murders. We don't need or want them.

Posted by: Case at December 04, 2025 06:02 PM (5Je/N)

The Statue of Liberty is kaput.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 04, 2025 06:12 PM (Fmmqy)

That's disconcerting.

Posted by: Captain Miller at December 04, 2025 06:14 PM (wVcYX)

89

If it's any consolation, you could be David French watching his wife getting railed by three guys at once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

*dry wanking till it hurts*

That shit is HOT

Posted by: David French - at December 04, 2025 06:15 PM (QVmho)

90
If only he could have gotten up a round or two of the game played on horseback with his tribal pals wherein they struggle to claim the corpse of some dead animal. "Smote the Goat", or something like that, it's called.

He'd have been right as rain!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 04, 2025 06:15 PM (xG4kz)

91 Hitteth the fan, the shit has.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 06:16 PM (pDt9x)

92 Yes and all they seem to care about is their intentions, not results.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 04, 2025 06:13 PM (AZf41)
=====

No love for me?

Posted by: Juicy Pension and Double-Dipping at December 04, 2025 06:17 PM (9ipOP)

93 " Biden forfeited "96,000 ground vehicles, 51,180 general purpose/light tactical vehicles, 23,825 [Humvees], nearly 900 armored combat vehicles, 427,300 weapons, 17,400 helmet-worn night vision devices and at least 162 aircraft" to the Taliban."

At a base we should have kept ... at least according to Trump and others. idk, but it makes sense to me.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2025 06:17 PM (vbXSk)

94 Murdered Yak is tender?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:10 PM

Yak is a dry meat. You have to hang it for a week or two. Some say to hang it by the hind feet but that's wrong. You want to hang it by the neck to keep all the juices in. Some say to hang it until the head pops off but that's too long for me.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:17 PM (jV8WQ)

95
the statue of Liberty says give us your.....

I said about two months ago they should sand blast that crap off the statue.

That poem was added on later.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2025 06:17 PM (pkeXY)

96 Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (pkeXY)

97 I just found out the alleged pipe-bomber is a POC

40 hours community service and $50 fine

Next!

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (+G4fB)

98 So new rule going into the next year is I'm not allowed to save as much in my 401K and even catch up is penalized, limited. Because I just have it too f'ing good. MFers. All of them.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 04, 2025 06:03 PM (3uBP9)

Take what they won't let you pay and put it in you're own IRA or something.

At least you'll get some interest or stock earnings that way.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:19 PM (6ydKt)

99
Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Good. Really wish congress critters would initiate impeachment process for every leftist hack in black that gets overturned.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 04, 2025 06:20 PM (QVmho)

100 Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Allows ?

Posted by: Operator Error at December 04, 2025 06:20 PM (XTlsM)

101 96 Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (pkeXY

Just saw that on Yahoo. I expect it can be extended to Florida as well. And Indiana if the GOP were serious (they're not, they sit on a throne of cocks).

Posted by: gKWVE at December 04, 2025 06:20 PM (gKWVE)

102 Watching Halle Berry jus sayin Gavin shouldn't be president. Nice jab Halle.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 04, 2025 06:21 PM (9ipOP)

103 "Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Allows ?
Posted by: Operator Error"

Mighty nice of 'em.

Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 06:21 PM (vFG9F)

104 "Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Allows ?
Posted by: Operator Error"

Mighty nice of 'em.
Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 06:21 PM

I will bet that Jumanji's dissent is a beaut.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:22 PM (jV8WQ)

105 MacArthur Park actually would be better if it was about BBQ.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:12 PM (zZu0s)

sweet creme icing on BBQ is disgusting.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:22 PM (8avO+)

106 43 Muslims are very susceptible to spinning out of control.
Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2025 05:59 PM (YwEeS)

you're telling us!

Posted by: Whirling Dervishes at December 04, 2025 06:23 PM (7RUcP)

107 Skip -

Holy Cow!!!

& I’m not Hindu. That is a long commute. Hope you stayed sane.

Posted by: Adriane the Not Enough Christmas Lights, the Planes Be Not Yet Circling the House Critic . . . at December 04, 2025 06:23 PM (3ZUWJ)

108 97 I just found out the alleged pipe-bomber is a POC

40 hours community service and $50 fine

Next!

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (+G4fB)

I do sense we're going to get some sympathetic stories about his troubled past and current difficulties from the DeMedia.

It'll take them a few days to get the stories out, but it's coming.
And then he'll go down the memory hole until his trial.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:23 PM (6ydKt)

109 sweet creme icing on BBQ is disgusting.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:22 PM (8avO+)

Buttercream or fondant?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:24 PM (zZu0s)

110 sweet creme icing on BBQ is disgusting.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:22 PM (8avO+)

Buttercream or fondant?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:24 PM (zZu0s)

fondant would have shed the rain like tar

Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)

111 Oh, look...my prediction that SCOTUS would allow the new TX map was right.

Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM (GBKbO)

112 "...with his wife and their five young sons."

___________________________________

It annoys me that I plan ahead, prepare, establish financial goals and assure myself I can afford to raise a child before pursuing that path. And, then end up paying massive taxes so clowns like this guy can procreate on a whim without consideration for their wellbeing.

Harvey Danger (FlagPole Sitta-1997)

"...Only stupid people are breeding..."

Posted by: Orson at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM (dIske)

113 104 I will bet that Jumanji's dissent is a beaut.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:22 PM (jV8WQ)

======

Kagan wrote the dissent.

It's still kinda dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM (GBKbO)

114 111 Oh, look...my prediction that SCOTUS would allow the new TX map was right.

Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM (GBKbO)

Well, a Prophet is never respected by his Horde.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 06:27 PM (pDt9x)

115 A guy comes from a tribal society with 8th century mores and the Dems say you'll love the USA. More delusional thinking

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 04, 2025 06:27 PM (bfwj/)

116 A guy comes from a tribal society with 8th century mores and the Dems say you'll love the USA. More delusional thinking
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 04, 2025 06:27 PM (bfwj/)

hell, the Dems don't love the USA.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:28 PM (8avO+)

117 -- The Mama's and the Papas, if they still existed and were commenting here.
Posted by: SimoHayha at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (0Aoc4)

And if the Papa banging his own daughter didnt make the whole thing gross.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)

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Gives new meaning to their song "Look Through My Window."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (pG0Ez)

118 Someone mentioned the book Toxic Charity to me.
Might apply to this case.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (eZ5tL)

119 Kagan wrote the dissent.

It's still kinda dumb.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM

They've taken Justice Jumanji's crayons away.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (jV8WQ)

120 Two words banana Dream. Roth IRA.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (wBaIH)

121 117 -- The Mama's and the Papas, if they still existed and were commenting here.
Posted by: SimoHayha at December 04, 2025 05:47 PM (0Aoc4)

And if the Papa banging his own daughter didnt make the whole thing gross.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 04, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)

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Gives new meaning to their song "Look Through My Window."
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (pG0Ez)

I have heard their music. It was pretty good.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (pDt9x)

122 So does this mean every state can draw their maps the way the legislature (or their designee) wants to draw their maps?

Because that would be even better.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:30 PM (6ydKt)

123 Actually got to work address by phone as Garmin wouldn't even except it so phone worked fine. Coming home can't get sound from phone

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:30 PM (Ia/+0)

124 "Spiraling" sounds like a shitty reddit story. Death Penalty for all Afghans involved.

Posted by: night lifted at December 04, 2025 06:30 PM (/YboP)

125 105 sweet creme icing on BBQ is disgusting. - Oldcat

I believe that's a second class felony in Lexington, North Carolina.

Posted by: Paco at December 04, 2025 06:30 PM (mADJX)

126 And deport his shitty family, the sons will only want revenge or breed.

Posted by: night lifted at December 04, 2025 06:31 PM (/YboP)

127 119 Kagan wrote the dissent.

It's still kinda dumb.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:25 PM

They've taken Justice Jumanji's crayons away.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 06:29 PM (jV8WQ)

======

I suspect the three agreed Kagan should do it because she would sound the most reasoned.

Alito's concurrence is great, though. It's three paragraphs, essentially says, "The dissent is real stupid, but in the interest of time, I'm just gonna say two things: The map is partisan, not racial, and the dissent doesn't even dispute that. The lower courts just didn't do things right."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:31 PM (GBKbO)

128
It's a pity that he didn't bop on down to California, enroll in one of those CDL mills, and then take up the freewheeling life of a long distance trucker.

Who knows what moves he may have show us while behind the wheel?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:32 PM (xG4kz)

129 Got a alarm out of it but can't play YouTube or Spotify

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:33 PM (Ia/+0)

130 Deport his wife and children. Now.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2025 06:33 PM (W2Pud)

131 129 Got a alarm out of it but can't play YouTube or Spotify
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:33 PM (Ia/+0)

What kind of phone, skip?

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 06:33 PM (pDt9x)

132 Well that's gotta be illegal somehow because I've been assured over the years that only Democrats can be partisan and get away with it unscathed.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:33 PM (6ydKt)

133 A small question, if you'll permit me, but...

what "relatives" are you even visiting if you're a flipping refugee here?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 04, 2025 06:34 PM (06Hmj)

134 94 Yak is a dry meat. You have to hang it for a week or two. Some say to hang it by the hind feet but that's wrong. You want to hang it by the neck to keep all the juices in. Some say to hang it until the head pops off but that's too long for me. - toby928(c)

"Waiter. Check please. I'm...not really hungry, after all."

Posted by: Paco at December 04, 2025 06:35 PM (mADJX)

135
I suspect the three agreed Kagan should do it because she would sound the most reasoned.

Nah. Jumanji's had to start prepping for her next gig on the stage, the Wise Latina had Churro Fest coming up, and the softball season is long over. No way that it wouldn't have fallen to Kagan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:35 PM (xG4kz)

136 I think Skip may have to put his phone out to pasture and ask Santa for anew phone for Christmas because that phone has been fighting him to the death for months and I think it's legs are about to buckle.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:35 PM (6ydKt)

137 Has anyone checked on the condition of the raccoon in the VA Likker store today? That was the most trashed trash panda ever. I hope he/she slept it off and will soon be back in a friendly dumpster, as nature intended.

Posted by: Happy Harry at December 04, 2025 06:36 PM (oftw2)

138 Big Y
Little y
A yawning yellow yak
Young Yolanda Yorgensen
Is yelling on his back.

Posted by: Dr. Suess at December 04, 2025 06:36 PM (XQo4F)

139 135
I suspect the three agreed Kagan should do it because she would sound the most reasoned.

Nah. Jumanji's had to start prepping for her next gig on the stage, the Wise Latina had Churro Fest coming up, and the softball season is long over. No way that it wouldn't have fallen to Kagan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:35 PM (xG4kz)

======

Fair.

But, more seriously, Jackson has written solo-dissents before. She could have here, but it was about Hispanics, so I guess she just didn't have the fire in her belly for it. So, that should mean Sotomayor would jump at it, but I bet Kagan said she'd only sign onto the dissent if she wrote it alone and not Sotomayor. She wasn't going to sign onto 55 pages of "Texas hates Hispanics and are trying to murder them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:36 PM (GBKbO)

140 Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (pkeXY

Just saw that on Yahoo. I expect it can be extended to Florida as well. And Indiana if the GOP were serious (they're not, they sit on a throne of cocks).

Posted by: gKWVE at December 04, 2025 06:20 PM

If everything works out as it has in history that will be 10 additional republican seats for 2026. That's about what the party in power normally loses in mid term.

It's fixin to get sporty next year but this ruling is good news.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 04, 2025 06:37 PM (0N4FZ)

141 Supreme Court upholds the map. Bye bye, Jasmine.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV)

142
Watching Saving Ryan's Privates starring Forrest Gump and the very first Private Ryan is awol from Serenity. Inara is gonna be pissed.

Did not remember Nathan Fillion was in this movie.

*Morena Baccarin*

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 04, 2025 06:37 PM (QVmho)

143 It doesn't matter to me that Prince Harry is gay.

Posted by: fd at December 04, 2025 06:38 PM (vFG9F)

144 Cook yak in a thermal cooker for a few days...very tender.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 04, 2025 06:38 PM (EkAsj)

145 Kagan don't know shit.
Hell, she's only got two names.

Posted by: Just about every other female SC justice ever at December 04, 2025 06:38 PM (XQo4F)

146 140 Supreme Court allows Texas to use new Congressional map.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2025 06:18 PM (pkeXY

Just saw that on Yahoo. I expect it can be extended to Florida as well. And Indiana if the GOP were serious (they're not, they sit on a throne of cocks).

Posted by: gKWVE at December 04, 2025 06:20 PM

======

It was specific to racial questions brought up in the TX map. Essentially, TX drew out rural Hispanics into districts, rural Hispanics who tend to vote Republican, and this was a racial gerrymander or something.

I'm sure FL will see its own separate legal challenges, but with Gingles most likely being overturned with the LA case and maybe even Section 2 dying, any lawsuit there will die quickly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:39 PM (GBKbO)

147 141 Supreme Court upholds the map. Bye bye, Jasmine.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 04, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV)

=======

She is going to raise at least $50 million in her Senate run and sass her way to a 9 point loss against Paxton.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:39 PM (GBKbO)

148 It's fixin to get sporty next year but this ruling is good news.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 04, 2025 06:37 PM (0N4FZ)

Now imagine getting the illegals of the voting rolls in a few key states.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 04, 2025 06:40 PM (rbvCR)

149 Now imagine getting the illegals of the voting rolls in a few key states.

Hell, i'd settle for the dead and disinterested

Posted by: MkY at December 04, 2025 06:41 PM (q6tQZ)

150 Since we're talking justices, it'd be nice if Trump gets to replace one or two of them. The Senate should dust off Biden and let him interrogate the nominees. It would be a hoot.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 04, 2025 06:41 PM (Dv3i1)

151 150 Since we're talking justices, it'd be nice if Trump gets to replace one or two of them. The Senate should dust off Biden and let him interrogate the nominees. It would be a hoot.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 04, 2025 06:41 PM (Dv3i1)

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Rumors are that Alito is prepping to retire after this term.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:42 PM (GBKbO)

152 Samsung. On off button not working but using tap on off to get around that.

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:45 PM (Ia/+0)

153 I hope he/she slept it off and will soon be back in a friendly dumpster, as nature intended.

Posted by: Happy Harry at December 04, 2025 06:36 PM (oftw2)

The article I read said the animal control officer that captured him let him sleep it off for a few hours and then released him back in the wild.

He's probably emptying a trashcan somewhere as we speak.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:45 PM (6ydKt)

154 And canned green beans from 2023 are OK to eat, right?

Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:47 PM (Ia/+0)

155 The article I read said the animal control officer that captured him let him sleep it off for a few hours and then released him back in the wild.

He's probably emptying a trashcan somewhere as we speak.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 04, 2025 06:45 PM

We use to do the same thing with our pledges.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 04, 2025 06:47 PM (6D4X/)

156
Has Chris Van Hollen set up his travel plans in order to spend the holidays with his bestie, "Maryland Dad", yet?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:47 PM (xG4kz)

157 Animal Control interview should include," You got a problem with putting down problem animals?"

Posted by: MkY at December 04, 2025 06:48 PM (q6tQZ)

158
And canned green beans from 2023 are OK to eat, right?
Posted by: Skip

Is the can bulging?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:48 PM (xG4kz)

159 @nicksortor
·
1h
🚨 BREAKING: A federal grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia has just REFUSED to indict disgraced NY AG Letitia James for her blatant mortgage fraud

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:52 PM (+G4fB)

160 "On off button not working but using tap on off to get around that.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2025 06:45"
+++

Get a bigger hammer.

Posted by: The default solution at December 04, 2025 06:53 PM (XQo4F)

161 159 @nicksortor
·
1h
🚨 BREAKING: A federal grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia has just REFUSED to indict disgraced NY AG Letitia James for her blatant mortgage fraud
Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:52 PM

###

Toldja.

Posted by: The Nothing Will Happen guy at December 04, 2025 06:54 PM (XQo4F)

162 Rumors are that Alito is prepping to retire after this term.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:42 PM (GBKbO)

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Yeah, I'd be surprised if both he and Thomas don't retire prior to the 2028 election -- which would be an additional important reasons for folks to vote for (presumably) Vance.

It seems Trump is lobbying for eliminating the filibuster; seems intent on maybe packing the SCOTUS prior to 2028 (before the Democrat-Communists potentially get a chance to do it)?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 06:55 PM (pG0Ez)

163 "A federal grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia has just REFUSED to indict disgraced NY AG Letitia James for her blatant mortgage fraud
Posted by: Don Black "

*chalks up another one*

Posted by: guy who always says nothing will happen and is usually right at December 04, 2025 06:55 PM (vFG9F)

164 But, more seriously, Jackson has written solo-dissents before. She could have here, but it was about Hispanics, so I guess she just didn't have the fire in her belly for it. So, that should mean Sotomayor would jump at it, but I bet Kagan said she'd only sign onto the dissent if she wrote it alone and not Sotomayor. She wasn't going to sign onto 55 pages of "Texas hates Hispanics and are trying to murder them."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 04, 2025 06:36 PM (GBKbO)

I think for a while they had a guest GOP judge dissent with the Dems just so the response wouldn't be incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:55 PM (8avO+)

165
I think for a while they had a guest GOP judge dissent with the Dems just so the response wouldn't be incredibly stupid.
Posted by: Oldcat[/]

A judicial babysitter, if you will.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at December 04, 2025 06:56 PM (xG4kz)

166 RIP Steve Cropper of Booker T & The MGs

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:57 PM (+G4fB)

167 Afghan Sparky drove a Prius, so that marvelous mileage enabled a lot of long trips on a tight budget. Great choice!

The psychology-adjacent helping professions have set quite a pattern of not narcing out their charges who suddenly behave very oddly. Almost every mass killer is later revealed to be well known to those who should know better, but just didn't have it in them to roll over on Habib. These guys all have licenses, and get the same prestige as doctors. You'd think something could be done.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 04, 2025 06:57 PM (zdLoL)

168 The psychology-adjacent helping professions have set quite a pattern of not narcing out their charges who suddenly behave very oddly. Almost every mass killer is later revealed to be well known to those who should know better, but just didn't have it in them to roll over on Habib. These guys all have licenses, and get the same prestige as doctors. You'd think something could be done.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 04, 2025 06:57 PM (zdLoL)

I think those contact calls are recruiting for the Deeps more than ways to stop them. I can't think of a single time such a call was made and an incident stopped by the 'good' guys.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2025 06:59 PM (8avO+)

169 @nicksortor
·
1h
🚨 BREAKING: A federal grand jury in Norfolk, Virginia has just REFUSED to indict disgraced NY AG Letitia James for her blatant mortgage fraud

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 06:52 PM (+G4fB)

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Blondi needs to wrap her up as part of the Conspiracy case in Florida -- along with Comey the Homey.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 07:01 PM (pG0Ez)

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