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Of Course: Biden Created a Special Exemption So That "Low-Level" Taliban Officials Could Migrate to the US

Yeah they're Taliban -- members of the radical cult that sheltered bin Ladin and floods the world with heroin -- but they're "low-level" "civil servants" so I'm sure they're cool.

BTW, why would Taliban civil servants have to flee the Taliban?

It's almost as if the Democrats just want to fill the US with foreign terrorists because they believe we should all be equal in poverty, misery, murder and terror.


Biden administration created exemption for many low-level Taliban 'civil servants' to come to U.S.

Amidst renewed scrutiny about the poor vetting of Afghan refugees in the wake of the debacle in August 2021, a review of a little-known Biden Administration policy allowing former Taliban government workers to come to the United States is taking center stage.

By Jerry Dunleavy


The Biden Administration implemented a terrorism exemption for Afghan refugees allowing hundreds of low-level "civil servants" from the Taliban government to resettle in the United States in the wake of the U.S. withdrawal and evacuation from the country.

The Biden-led Department of Homeland Security and State Department announced in June 2022 that it had put together new exemptions for purportedly vetted applicants who would otherwise be blocked from the United States -- including some former Taliban government workers. The policy allowed hundreds of Afghans to come to the U.S. when they would have previously likely been barred due to terrorism-related inadmissibility grounds (TRIG). This reportedly allowed hundreds of former Taliban government workers to come to the U.S.

The exemptions were for Afghans who had worked as "civil servants" under the Taliban (both before 9/11 and after August 2021), as well as for Afghans who "supported U.S. military interests" such as participation in resistance movements against the Taliban or the Soviet Army and for Afghans "who provided only certain limited material support to the Taliban or other designated terrorist organizations."

The Biden administration agencies said that the "new exemptions may apply" to "individuals employed as civil servants in Afghanistan at any time from September 27, 1996 to December 22, 2001 or after August 15, 2021." These time periods covered both the Taliban's first stint ruling Afghanistan -- when they protected al-Qaeda before and after the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and were subsequently overthrown following a U.S. invasion -- and the Taliban's current rule of the country in the wake of the disastrous and chaotic U.S. evacuation in August 2021.

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The agencies said the exemptions did not include Afghans "who held high-level positions, worked for certain ministries, or directly assisted violent Taliban activities or activities in which the individual's civil service was motivated by an allegiance to the Taliban" nor Afghan individuals "who share the goals or ideology of the Taliban, provided preferential treatment to them, or who intended to support the Taliban through their activities."

The State Department and DHS under the Trump administration did not immediately respond to a request for comment on whether they would maintain this TRIG exemption for former Taliban government workers.

"President Trump's State Department has paused visa issuance for ALL individuals traveling on Afghan passports," Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced on X on Friday. "The United States has no higher priority than protecting our nation and our people."

Some unrelated items:

Is there such a thing as female drag queens?

Cuz dis bitch is a female drag queen.


Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM




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1
Yeah, she's a Female female impersonator.

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (54Jyl)

2 Not first but early

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (pfKbt)

3 /plants flag

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (OUMaO)

4 Bah! Too slow yet again.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (OUMaO)

5 OT - Of course he did:



Liz Collin

@lizcollin
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Posted by: beckster at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (I7J98)

6
Breaking Fake Gaslighting News, you guys:

Health Insurance was totally affordable until October 2025!

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (54Jyl)

7 288 281
So, when the UK, France, Germany and the US are overrun, and china collapses under it's failed model, who makes the goods that the rich traitors are going to buy?
Posted by: Thomas Paine

The "meat" chunks for sale by armed street venders? That's what will be left of the elites and rich traitors after the burning times.

The " Soylent Green Meat" chunks for sale by armed street venders in the UK are PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (J9q9v)

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Posted by: beckster at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (I7J98


Frey doesn't want anyone deporting his voters.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (z3/Ck)

9 Taliban bugger little boys...doesn't that make them paedo faggots?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (ynpvh)

10 Is there anyone in Afghanistan that isn’t Taliban? Serious question. The idea that there are some ‘good’ Afghans and we can somehow identify them is … bonkers.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 03, 2025 05:34 PM (npBQu)

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Posted by: beckster at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (I7J98


Frey doesn't want anyone deporting his voters.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (z3/Ck)

How does he plan to enforce his "order"?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2025 05:34 PM (ynpvh)

12 Heed the words of Linda Sarsour. This scrunt is neck deep in terrorist networks here.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2025 05:34 PM (sDNVV)

13 Aftyn Behyn is a liberal stripper name.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (z3/Ck)

14
You know who else is a female female impersonator?

Gretchen Whitmer.

These two, After Burn & Whitmer, look a Twin Drag Act.

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (54Jyl)

15 Jay Bhattacharya
@DrJBhattacharya
Replying to @DrJBhattacharya
First and most obviously, lockdowns failed to protect people from dying. Since Jan '20 Sweden has the lowest cumulative age-adjusted all-cause excess deaths in Europe. California was worse than Florida.

It was the lockdowners who threatened the nation's health.
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Fvcking kills me again every time I see it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (A0sqA)

16 Walz is protecting his money stream. He just excoriated the racing commission head (why is horse racing big in MN) at the behest of the tribes due to the allowance of "slot machines" at the track. Which are supposed to be a tribal monopoly.

This happens all the time. He is not even concerned about hiding it.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (pfKbt)

17 Take a look at who is responsible for Passports in Afghanistan these days...

I'll give you a hint, he is a known and wanted Terrorist.

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (DeNdk)

18 Dat bitch read her whole "phone call" off of her phone.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 05:35 PM (MGB5H)

19 "Yeah they're Taliban -- members of the radical cult that sheltered bin Ladin and floods the world with heroin"

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You misspelled CIA.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:36 PM (X1yDi)

20 Low level Taliban? Did they just work in the mail room or something?

Posted by: Guy who always says at December 03, 2025 05:36 PM (vFG9F)

21 Aftyn Behn and Kami Harris were robbed of their victories because they were Strong Willed and Intelligent Women !!!

Posted by: Jackson at December 03, 2025 05:36 PM (J9q9v)

22 >> Is there anyone in Afghanistan that isn’t Taliban? Serious question. The idea that there are some ‘good’ Afghans and we can somehow identify them is … bonkers.


We were there for 20 years. We know who the half decent ones are/were.

IIRC the former VP was one of the same and left hanging when Biden bailed.

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 05:36 PM (DeNdk)

23 It's incredible the lengths Democrats will go to defend illegal aliens, terrorists, criminals, literally anyone on the planet over the rights of American citizens.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)

24 I was watching the video of the 'Stan "refugee" that tried to shoot those cops in VA this spring and one thing that I found interesting.

He complained about all the sorts of normal problems we deal with - government paperwork, government fees, working 9-5 and said hey it is YOUR fault my life sucks you brought me here!

And...he's not completely wrong. Why would anyone expect bringing some guy from 'Stan and putting him in modern America is going to work out well? Why wouldn't you send him to a more similar culture like Jordan or Egypt?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (sKqQm)

25 I love the way President Trump bats around the press like a cat playing with a mouse. He calls them retards without often using the r word. Today it was lunatic. I hope someday my favorite NYC word I learned from my husband: douchebag.

That Aftyn beech is scary looking. Pompous, the Trans Promoting Qween.A lotta make up spackle on her worn face.

Look at her supporters behind her! One looks moose limb. The others want the free hand out train to keep chugging.

"Southern Hospitality," Aftyn, my big fat arse. You simply wanted a media bite. And, what on earth are you wearing? A rodeo jacket? Wth? So thankful she lost. Now, vamoose! Go support the trans!

With that I should do something productive in spit e of all my woes and the world.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (WONhk)

26 Darn it off guy who always says sock.

Posted by: fd at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (vFG9F)

27 Did Frey sign it in Somalian?

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (pfKbt)

28 Yeah, she's a Female female impersonator.
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Who told her that shirt was a good idea? Am I wrong Piper?

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (TN0g+)

29 Is there anyone in Afghanistan that isn’t Taliban? Serious question. The idea that there are some ‘good’ Afghans and we can somehow identify them is … bonkers.

The Taliban became the strong horse.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (sKqQm)

30 Oh, they were vetted quite well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 05:38 PM (zZu0s)

31 19 "Yeah they're Taliban -- members of the radical cult that sheltered bin Ladin and floods the world with heroin"

I thought when they put Taliban on all the forms they meant we should "Ban Towels" !!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 03, 2025 05:38 PM (J9q9v)

32 23 It's incredible the lengths Democrats will go to defend illegal aliens, terrorists, criminals, literally anyone on the planet over the rights of American citizens.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)


And why do they do that?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 03, 2025 05:38 PM (z3/Ck)

33 Its funny the FNM damns post-WWII America for bringing in German scientists because hey they all worked for a despotic murderous government but argues bringing "low level" Taliban here was the right thing to do morally

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (sKqQm)

34 Hey Mister Taliban, tally me bananas

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)

35 the autopen freaks were running the show and that’s why POTUS is bringing it to the attention of the American people. as he should.

Posted by: cherries in season at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (8RkLy)

36 With all the shit going on, I'd say its amazing no politician has been taken out by an "immigrant". But at the same time they probably know who not to harass, assault, or kill.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (Vh9CX)

37 >>It's incredible the lengths Democrats will go to defend illegal aliens, terrorists, criminals, literally anyone on the planet over the rights of American citizens.


Anything that will harm you, the average American, really.

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (DeNdk)

38 >>>> Is there anyone in Afghanistan that isn’t Taliban? Serious question. The idea that there are some ‘good’ Afghans and we can somehow identify them is … bonkers.

Yea, the scumbag who shot to the two National Guardsmen. He was working with the CIA to fight the Taliban.

Which is why nobody from Afghanistan should be brought here. They are all savages.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m)

39 Is Afton Behn going to be done now, or does she keep her current seat? She is horrible, but does the left in TN see her as their next AOC and will prop her up for another race?

She is everything about the women in my generation that I hate. So I suspect she'll be around a while, because I can't have nice things.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (gWBY1)

40 Look at the Chiron.

Repub barely wins a Trump +22 district.

The media just can't help themselves

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (z3/Ck)

41 They've hyped this Aftyn Behn chick up so much they'll have to try to run her again for governor, at least give her a podcast and a seat at MS-Now.

She's the flavor of the month.
The new Beto.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (6ydKt)

42 Dear Tali's - WELCOME!!!
- Totally the real President, Joe Biden.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, a black, LGBT, child of immigrants at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (oSeBJ)

43 Why wouldn't you send him to a more similar culture like Jordan or Egypt?
Posted by: 18-1
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Jordan has already had 'refugees' try to take out the Jordanian government (see Black September), Egypt just fought off and removed the asshole Muslim Brotherhood and has Gazan Hamassholes next door and on their other border, the Libyan mess.

They should have been left. It is not the fault of the US that they chose not to fight it out for their country--we gave them twenty years of treasure and blood and the fact they could not stand up after that speaks to Afghani internal problems rather than the US.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (WDjG6)

44 "Do not let the Affordable Care act subsidies expire"
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Some people don't understand words anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (OaZlZ)

45 TN dodged a bitch-bullet.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (TezPK)

46 At least he didn't surrender Afghanistan to the control of the Taliban again.

/Say what?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (Rqqo0)

47 And this woman who lost, who says she "hates" Nashville, has the nerve to do her public nagging wearing . . . a Western shirt.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (wzUl9)

48 the question is always easily answered by "hate us and want us all dead".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (Cjt/F)

49 Afton Behn going to be done now, or does she keep her current seat? She is horrible, but does the left in TN see her as their next AOC and will prop her up for another race?

She is everything about the women in my generation that I hate. So I suspect she'll be around a while, because I can't have nice things.
Posted by: LizLem at December

She'll continue being an annoyance in the TN State House. Nothing more.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (MGB5H)

50 She's a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (pkeXY)

51 "Biden Created a Special Exemption So That "Low-Level" Taliban Officials Could Migrate to the US"

aka, The First Wave of Taliban Terror.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (vbXSk)

52 I guess these were "moderate " Taliban

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 03, 2025 05:42 PM (DoBxX)

53 They've hyped this Aftyn Behn chick up so much they'll have to try to run her again for governor, at least give her a podcast and a seat at MS-Now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:40 PM (6ydKt)
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She's probably got a good rant against the people of Tennessee.

Posted by: Axeman at December 03, 2025 05:42 PM (OaZlZ)

54 Next you'll be telling me that The AutoPen Empire Deep State was riddled with Iranian agents and spies.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 03, 2025 05:42 PM (Rqqo0)

55 39 Is Afton Behn going to be done now, or does she keep her current seat? She is horrible, but does the left in TN see her as their next AOC and will prop her up for another race?

She is everything about the women in my generation that I hate. So I suspect she'll be around a while, because I can't have nice things.
Posted by: LizLem
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She still has a state House seat and is making rumblings about running again for the seat in the 2026 general election.

My guess Abortion Barbie II is her future running until the grift and donors turn their back. We always forget that the Democrats have their own versions of failure theater like Beto O'Rourke or the original Abortion Barbie/Stacey Abrams.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:42 PM (WDjG6)

56 She's a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 05:41 PM (pkeXY)

He's the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 05:42 PM (MGB5H)

57 We were there for 20 years. We know who the half decent ones are/were.

IIRC the former VP was one of the same and left hanging when Biden bailed.
Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 05:36 PM (DeNdk)

The guy who shot to NG's last week was supposed to be one of the good ones.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (ouubj)

58 26m
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I am really fascinated at how brazen these neo-confederates are in their efforts to keep their slaves.

And when one of theirs kills an ICE agent (and I'll bet that was who the Afghani terrorist was targeting in DC), what will they do?

I'll add this: I think we are wrong that the Seditious 6 were speaking to the military.
I think they were speaking to Antifa, who view themselves as the true military to protect our democracy.
They are the ones most eager to have official sanction to execute "fascists" for illegal orders.
They have been yelling it at every one of their protests.
And now they have sitting Congressmen telling them "we got your back" ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (HXT0k)

59 Taliban bugger little boys...doesn't that make them paedo faggots?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2025 05:33 PM (ynpvh)
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Careful! I hear you can get locked up in the UK with that kid of talk!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (IBQGV)

60 It should be clear to all that America's most vicious, devious, and dangerous enemies are domestically grown.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (cYBz/)

61 Do we need more evidence that the Biden regime hated its own citizens and was at war with them?

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (6KcYW)

62 The Taliban is involved in a war that could lead to a nuclear mess. They are supporting TPP , Taliban in Pakistan, who are engaging in attacks in Pakistan. Pakistan has bombed several Afghan cities including Kabul. India is now getting friendly with the Taliban against Pakistan. A couple of wrong moves and boom. The Taliban therefore have a lot of problems right now, so if they do have assholes here they aren't getting help from home

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (bfwj/)

63 This is going to shock you, but after she lost, Aftyn Behn called up Van Epps and nagged him.

Enh, go make me a sandwich, Aftyn.

No, wait. Go buy me a sandwich. I don't have time to wait for you to learn how to make one.

What a piece of work that one is. Now, she's still stuck in what she imagines to be the hellscape of Tennessee (No D.C. for you!)

You know, Matt Van Epps' campaign theme song should have been Confederate Railroad's "She Never Cried"...

She never cried when old Yeller died
She wasn't washed in the blood of the lamb
She never stood up for the star-spangled banner
And she wasn't a John Wayne fan
Her baby, blue eyes hid the warning signs
That woman was bad to the bone
She never cried when old Yeller died
So, do you think I'll cry when she's gone?

Posted by: Paco at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (mADJX)

64 NEW: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey signs order prohibiting city parking lots from being used for immigration enforcement.
Posted by: beckster at December 03, 2025 05:31 PM (I7J98

________________________

Signing the order is one thing. However, to enforce such nonsense, the City is obligated to mark it properly. So, congrats Minneapolis taxpayers. You just acquired something else to pay for.

Also, public parking spots are considered (under precedent) as a public accommodation or service. Public accommodations and services can not be discriminated upon under law. It's known as Equal Access.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (dIske)

65 Daylight come and me wan'go home
Day, me say day, me say day, me say day, me say day, me say day
Daylight come and me wan'go home

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I can't hear that song and not think of the Beetlejuice dinner scene.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (6ydKt)

66 Wait - I could have been first? While I idly read the comments, played the videos - all in all acting like a moron.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (Vpqw1)

67 I LOVE this Trump Administration! They responded to Sabrina Carpenter hating on them for using her lyrics in an ICE deportation video, with more of her lyrics. Give their social media team a nice Christmas bonus.

The Shot: Sabrina's original comments
"This video is evil and disgusting. Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda."

The Chaser: the WH response
"Here's a Short n' Sweet message for Sabrina Carpenter: we won't apologize for deporting dangerous criminal illegal murderers, rapists, and pedophiles from our country."
The representative added, referencing lyrics from Carpenter's hit song "Manchild": "Anyone who would defend these sick monsters must be stupid, or is it slow?"

Sabrina is the actually sexy version of Taylor Swift and is pretty popular. I love this socially savvy take down by the WH.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (gWBY1)

68 Repub barely wins a Trump +22 district.

The media just can't help themselves
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Aimed at comforting Democrats and moving independents. Only the old fogeys watching TV news on the right are affected.

Most GOP voters have moved on from the 'tales told by idiots' modern media.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:45 PM (WDjG6)

69 Taliban bugger little boys...doesn't that make them paedo faggots?

One of our soldiers was court martialed for stopping one of our Afghan allies from raping a boy.

Note the Taliban used this endlessly for propaganda purposes.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:45 PM (sKqQm)

70
What the hell?
Is Ted Cruz sleeping over at the White House, now?

Two days in a row Ted

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:45 PM (54Jyl)

71 Low level Taliban? Did they just work in the mail room or something?
Posted by: Guy who always says at December 03, 2025


***
They just loaded the guns. They didn't shoot any.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2025 05:45 PM (wzUl9)

72 I can't hear that song and not think of the Beetlejuice dinner scene.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:44 PM (6ydKt)

So very superior to the MacArthur Park scene in 2

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (MGB5H)

73 Britain is lost, it would seem.

A pet theory of mine is that the Prods in the North will join with the Catholics throughout and wage guerilla war against anything Islamic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (dtajH)

74 Van Epps should have hung up on the schifoza. "Sorry this line is for winners." Click.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (wBaIH)

75 Sane person:
"Tolerance of islam always results in disaster. For one and half millennia they have taken over countries, genocided Christian, raped women, abused children, stolen everything destroyed cultural history and turned the place into a shithole."


Lefty: "But real tolerance of islam has never been tried."

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (Ct3NL)

76 "It's almost as if the Democrats... believe we should all be equal in poverty, misery, murder and terror."
And Fugly.

Posted by: UncleJefe at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (gAuAm)

77 Wow. That CNN chyron reads just like the comments here!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (zZu0s)

78 Am I in time for hind tit, again?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (8skTE)

79 It should be clear to all that America's most vicious, devious, and dangerous enemies are domestically grown.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 03, 2025 05:43 PM (cYBz/)

To the extent that CIA and FBI recruit domestically grown, that's true.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (dZIAr)

80 Sabrina Carpenter has less singing talent then Madonna but she has the same schtick.

And somehow it still works

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (sKqQm)

81 Britain is lost, it would seem.

A pet theory of mine is that the Prods in the North will join with the Catholics throughout and wage guerilla war against anything Islamic.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (dtajH)
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It's doubtful that we'll always have Paris, too.

Posted by: Axeman at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (OaZlZ)

82 I feel just like Steven Segal in some movie doing a stupid round house kick { which reminds me, the telegraph was invented in 18 whatever} to a marxist punching bag.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (EyfuW)

83

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) argued the “uniformed military may help save us from” President Donald Trump.

"I think in many ways, the uniformed military may help save us from this president and his lame people like Hegseth, because I think their commitment is to the Constitution and obviously not to Trump."

Seven Days In December

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (pkeXY)

84 Sabrina is the actually sexy version of Taylor Swift and is pretty popular. I love this socially savvy take down by the WH.
Posted by: LizLem
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I find her as fake and creepy as I find Tay Tay or Madonna in earlier days.

Souless corporate machines that are essentially products for consumption and audience manipulation.

Not surprisingly, these types often lip sync a lot of their concerts as well. See Fil of Pegasus for his series on concert ripoffs using this technique as well as other fakery to make their voices sound better than they actually are.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (WDjG6)

85
Anyone remember "Sabrina" from the 80's?

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (54Jyl)

86 I'm sorry; I don't think I have the intestinal fortitude to look at and hear AWFL Aftyn nagging Epps.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (ix8EF)

87 33 Its funny the FNM damns post-WWII America for bringing in German scientists because hey they all worked for a despotic murderous government but argues bringing "low level" Taliban here was the right thing to do morally
Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM
Nary a scientist to be had in the whole taliban to bring here, just jihadis.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (i+bC1)

88 And of course it was already known, to the extent anything is "known" in epidemiology, still a young and fairly rough science, that "mitigation" (including lockdowns) are ineffectual against the type of pathogen involved in 2020 (an influenza-like illness, or ILI, that was readily transmitted and already "prevalent" - which has a much more expansive definition than assumed).

There's video of a panel of top epidemiologists, a few years prior to 2020, discussing just what strategy they might pursue in the case of a serious epidemic just like C19. The discussion wasn't about "policies", which of course were known to be irrelevant to outcomes, it was about how to talk to the public, who *expected that "something could be done!" to help*.

In other words, a workable PR strategy to hose down an ignorant, demanding public, shut them up while things ran their course. Which is the only outcome of such epidemics. Climate, ILI epidemics - 2 things humans are utterly unable to affect. Gives you a snapshot of the state of public understanding, and institutional collapse, in case you needed one.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (U/Byj)

89 Oh, and Like Taylor, Sabrina has gotten famous singing about her terrible taste in toxic loser men. Go figure.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (gWBY1)

90 Test. Test.

Is this computer still on?

Faggot.

That is all.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (47/pr)

91 Van Epps should have hung up on the schifoza. "Sorry this line is for winners." Click.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (wBaIH)

I just wish he hadn't started the J6 riots.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:49 PM (WeJ8p)

92 73 A pet theory of mine is that the Prods in the North will join with the Catholics throughout and wage guerilla war against anything Islamic. - Ignoramus

You may be on to something. I read somewhere that there's a group called The New Republican Movement that is threatening violence against the woke and pro-immigrant people in government in Northern Ireland.

Posted by: Paco at December 03, 2025 05:49 PM (mADJX)

93 50 She's a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman.

there's a movie in there somewhere

Posted by: anachronda at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (v3pYe)

94 I’m sure Afghanistan’s employment records are methodical and free of corruption, therefore someone saying they worked in 1998 absolutely worked in 1998.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (kz78D)

95 Yea, the scumbag who shot to the two National Guardsmen. He was working with the CIA to fight the Taliban.

Which is why nobody from Afghanistan should be brought here. They are all savages.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m)

He says he's "not guilty." Right! It's on video, for starters, scumbag!

Over a decade ago I used to write to Mark Steyn. And he'd print my stuff on his site (I could use an alias and fake email). Mark liked me, he really liked me! I'd found a story about a "meeting" of an Anglican priest and a moose limb who told them flat out that the Ummah was coming with the califate. He said, "We will use your laws of Democracy to defeat you." Paraphrased as it was years ago and I have no idea if I kept the story.

They know the system of democracy and law. They bathe in the word ending phobia (islamophobia). They are using this, as well as apparently bribing the police, in the UK to defeat them within. No shots need to be fired.A few machetes, oh, indeed.

Same here til President Trump. Note ALL the immigration lawyers trying to keep barbarians here. Who came here illegally, some with murder intent, who have "rights." No, they really don't!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (WONhk)

96 74 Van Epps should have hung up on the schifoza. "Sorry this line is for winners." Click.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
=====
Most guys are not the Don. I can see him doing just that and then discussing what a horrible person just called.

For the West to rise again, men need to regain their balls and speak truth openly instead of the lying, sneaking, backstabbing that has infected our politics since Obama at least.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (WDjG6)

97 Aftyn Behn is nuts.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (8skTE)

98 They're all Patti Page, but Patti page was actually talented.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 05:51 PM (zZu0s)

99 Sabrina Carpenter has less singing talent then Madonna but she has the same schtick.

And somehow it still works
Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (sKqQm)

Wait'll she starts "dating" a gay football player. Then you'll know her time in the spotlight is coming to an end.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:51 PM (iU+ep)

100 "Low-level Taliban" = Goat fluffer

Posted by: Delurker at December 03, 2025 05:51 PM (NhiOW)

101 So very superior to the MacArthur Park scene in 2

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 05:46 PM (MGB5H)

I haven't seen it yet.
I actually started watching it on HBOMax when it was on there but got about 15 minutes in, had to do something else, and never went back to watch the rest.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:52 PM (6ydKt)

102
argues bringing "low level" Taliban here was the right thing to do morally

Similar to bring in the Hmong from Viet Nam.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 05:52 PM (pkeXY)

103 >> I find her as fake and creepy as I find Tay Tay or Madonna in earlier days. Souless corporate machines that are essentially products for consumption and audience manipulation.

Yep! Pop music has gotten so banal, if it gets taken over by AI, it's the record companies' own fault.

I'm hoping we have a renaissance of indie musicians with real talent filling in the vaccuum of AI. Fingers crossed. Part of why I think young girls love the KPop Demon Hunters is the singers can actually sing! The girl that plays Rumi sings a high A in golden. Taylor and Sabrina can't hit a high A in their dreams. Hopefully real talent rises. Because the current dark ages of pop music is annoying.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:52 PM (gWBY1)

104
About 15 years ago, "Sabrina" teamed up with Samantha Fox.

What would've given me permanent wood in 1990 kinda made me sad in 2010:

https://is.gd/XHxNBr

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:52 PM (lWZTA)

105 Low level Taliban? Did they just work in the mail room or something?
Posted by: Guy who always says at December 03, 2025


He gets sloppy goat seconds.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 03, 2025 05:53 PM (dK+Kv)

106 Oh, and Like Taylor, Sabrina has gotten famous singing about her terrible taste in toxic loser men. Go figure.
Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (gWBY1)

I thought she got famous wearing a onesie with a thin little crotch, and spreading her legs on stage.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 05:53 PM (EQnjS)

107 @92 the two places that I expect anti Muslim violence first are Ireland and France. The Muslims will take the place of the Brits for the Irish to fight, as least for the near future. The French can be vicious bastards (see Vichy or Algeria) and I wouldn't be surprised to see that place blow

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2025 05:53 PM (bfwj/)

108 The local unions are leading protests against ICE at the Minneapolis airport.

Let me see, so you have:
An illegal strike
On federally controlled sensitive property

I'm going to laugh so much when Trump de-certifies the union and bars the members from the entire airport.
And the entire airport gets shut down except for ICE flights.
And then the condition for re-opening is that the city forfeits any fees and taxes from it for the next 10 years.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 03, 2025 05:53 PM (HXT0k)

109
Aww, who am I kidding?
They were still babes in 2010.

Only Garrett would complain about older Samantha Fox & Sabrina. Only Garret...

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:53 PM (lWZTA)

110 Anyone remember "Sabrina" from the 80's?

Posted by: Soothsayer
======
Yep. Inferior in most ways to the original. Bogart was better and more believable than Harrison Ford who turned in his usual wooden performance, Audrey Hepburn far better than Julia D'Ormand who likewise had a lackluster performance, and at least a tie between William Holden and Greg Kinnear. Kinnear was someone that should have been put as lead in some pictures--easy charm. Holden was not pickled and sour yet and is charming in his own right.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:54 PM (WDjG6)

111 58:And now they have sitting Congressmen telling them "we got your back" ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice



And then AntiFa will discover an age old truth.

youtu.be/oCpwd0ARx6Q

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (sAmhv)

112 For the West to rise again, men need to regain their balls and speak truth openly instead of the lying, sneaking, backstabbing that has infected our politics since Obama at least.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:50 PM (WDjG6)

Wisdom.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (dK+Kv)

113 What would've given me permanent wood in 1990 kinda made me sad in 2010:

https://is.gd/XHxNBr
Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:52 PM (lWZTA)

MILFy

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (kz78D)

114 85 Anyone remember "Sabrina" from the 80's?

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:48 PM (54Jyl

I vaguely remember Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, and a one-hit wonder named Martika (she sang "Toy Soldiers").

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (6ydKt)

115 Van Epps should have hung up on the schifoza.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

Nonno, iszat you?

LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (cYBz/)

116 I'd put the phone down and walk away and do something useful.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 03, 2025 05:55 PM (xcxpd)

117 Part of why I think young girls love the KPop Demon Hunters is the singers can actually sing! The girl that plays Rumi sings a high A in golden. Taylor and Sabrina can't hit a high A in their dreams. Hopefully real talent rises. Because the current dark ages of pop music is annoying.
Posted by: LizLem
========
Yep. The audacity of having real talent that can sing in KPop Demon is a hopeful sign that not all is lost.

Also the reason why 60's through 00's music is being revisited by yutes. A lot of it has heart, style, and passion lacking in today's dull and drab cookie cutter music.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:56 PM (WDjG6)

118
Low level Taliban? Did they just work in the mail room or something?
Posted by: Guy who always says


How to succeed in terrorism without really trying.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 05:56 PM (pkeXY)

119 Should have a deported from country ceremony as they board the planes.


Like Hawaii and the pretty girls, flowers but reversed.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 03, 2025 05:56 PM (EyfuW)

120 Gotta go.

Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:56 PM (WDjG6)

121 Haha, that too BurtTC!

I'll admit the songs are catchy, Espresso was a summer earworm for me. And it was cute that in Fortnite, when the Sabrina Carpenter skin came out, her fans bought it and just hung out in games group emoting dances together instead of killing each other. Like a group dance party in Fortnite. Her fans might be cooler than her.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (gWBY1)

122 Is that one of those Glow in the dark shirts that she's wearing???

Posted by: dantesed at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (Oy/m2)

123
The Democrats fake appeal to troops to betray their country for the Democrat party is no different from the '24 election when Democrats ran ads aimed at wives to betray their "Trump-voting" husbands.

It didn't work then. It won't work now.

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (lWZTA)

124 I would have held the phone to my ass and farted in her ear.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (sDNVV)

125 Oh? Sabrina the movie?
I thought she was another teen pop diva.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (6ydKt)

126 Her name alone sounds like a modern gulag

Bye whore!

Posted by: fuxupwichyou at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (XLfSN)

127 when does ANYBODY fucking go to prison, or into a woodchipper?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 03, 2025 05:58 PM (RG1+r)

128 Or maybe I was thinking of Sabrina the Teenage Witch....

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 05:58 PM (6ydKt)

129 I was going to give you my all encompassing definition of what being a "Low Level Taliban" entailed. However, instead I chose to self filter in the name of what minimal decorum I am capable of.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (dIske)

130 when the Sabrina Carpenter skin came out, her fans bought it and just hung out in games group emoting dances together instead of killing each other. Like a group dance party in Fortnite. Her fans might be cooler than her.
Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (gWBY1)

So her fans are all gay? Dancing in a shooter?

*shakes head at kids today*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (zZu0s)

131 80 Sabrina Carpenter has less singing talent then Madonna but she has the same schtick.

And somehow it still works
Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2025 05:47 PM (sKqQm)

Sex sells

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (xcxpd)

132 124 I would have held the phone to my ass and farted in her ear.
Posted by: Ben Had

Not me. Haven't been able to trust a fart since 1983.

Posted by: Scranton Joe at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (oftw2)

133
The Problem with "our side," that I say over and over, is We don't remember nothing.

The Democrats tactics are not new. Not a single new tactic in their stratagem since 2000.

But we keep falling for the same bullshit again and again.

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (lWZTA)

134 Local radio station guy here said he could see Aftyn running for Mayor of Nashville. I could see that . She got 60,000 of her votes from Nashville and was up in the race when those vote were posted. There is a funny video of them celebrating when they were ahead early.

Posted by: Big Alfredo at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (Vdukr)

135 I'll admit the songs are catchy, Espresso was a summer earworm for me. And it was cute that in Fortnite, when the Sabrina Carpenter skin came out, her fans bought it and just hung out in games group emoting dances together instead of killing each other. Like a group dance party in Fortnite. Her fans might be cooler than her.
Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 05:57 PM (gWBY1)

Pop music is catchy! They have experienced and talented people writing the songs.

But nobody wants to see craggy old coots singing these songs, so they find pretty people to do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 06:00 PM (3CN/6)

136 OK, this is a link to an Insty ONT comment I saw yesterday.

https://instapundit.com/759764
/#comment-6804397753

It is about an NEMJ article on a pfizer mRNA flu vaccine trial.

The results were really bad, but the article is positive.

He goes into details, but over 65yo got the flu more and had worse adverse effects (like kidney failure...) than the control (which was a standard vaccine.)

They simply did not report that and only showed the slightly positive results for those under 65

That thing they did before? Well they are going to do it again.....

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 06:00 PM (Ct3NL)

137 >>> Also the reason why 60's through 00's music is being revisited by yutes. A lot of it has heart, style, and passion lacking in today's dull and drab cookie cutter music.
Posted by: whig at December 03, 2025 05:56 PM (WDjG6)

My current fave rabbit hole for Youtube vids are Gen Z producers, musicians, vocal coaches discovering the older music they didn't grow up on, and realizing how complex and sophisticated it is. Even the stuff we think of as "pop" for that era. One gen Z music producer had to take a break to calm down after hearing "Good vibrations" and "God Only Knows" from the Beach Boys. The complexity of the rhythms and tempo changes killed him in a good way.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 06:00 PM (gWBY1)

138 I was going to give you my all encompassing definition of what being a "Low Level Taliban" entailed. However, instead I chose to self filter in the name of what minimal decorum I am capable of.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 05:59 PM (dIske)

A goat fluffer?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 03, 2025 06:01 PM (dK+Kv)

139 SpeakingOf!


Sorry, I got distracted yesterday. Yes, they are the same movie. I do not know why it has two names but I first knew as The Big Carnival. Now it seems everyone calls it Ace in the Hole.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 06:01 PM (Ct3NL)

140
Then & Now

Samantha Fox 1986:

https://is.gd/SBJIJM

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 06:03 PM (lWZTA)

141 Oh geez SignalGate is back after the IG report has come out.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 06:03 PM (MGB5H)

142
and...

Samantha Fox 2023:

https://is.gd/espook

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 06:03 PM (lWZTA)

143 A goat fluffer?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 03, 2025 06:01 PM (dK+Kv)
_____________________

I'm somewhat ashamed to tell you it was much worse than that. Anyone within sight of a goat, on the other hand, holds a cabinet position in the Taliban hierarchy.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 06:04 PM (dIske)

144 He says he's "not guilty." Right! ...
--

He was just following orders.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 06:04 PM (8skTE)

145 I have never heard Sabrina Carpenter though I know her name. Looked her up and she's 5 ft tall and has bought two house in Cali and one on NYC for over $15m. Good for her, but shut up

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2025 06:05 PM (bfwj/)

146
Better look at Samantha Fox in 2023, performing her 1986 hit song:

https://is.gd/wM6pJ9

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 06:06 PM (lWZTA)

147 Guys, I have to weigh in here. I spent several years as an advisor in Afghanistan, so I know what I'm talking about.

The bureaucrats in Afghanistan did not change. As I put it, there is a guy sitting behind a desk at the Ministry who takes 2 copies of your form, stamps it, gives you one copy back, and puts it on file. Same guy, same form. He did that job for the King, for the Communists, for the Taliban, for the Americans, and now for the Taliban again. He has had periods of time over the years where he didn't get paid and worked a side job, but he kept the job because it had an apartment attached to it. He was not a Communist, he was not Taliban, and he didn't support the Americans either. He just goes to work, does his job, has the free lunch in the courtyard, and goes home at the end of the day.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 03, 2025 06:06 PM (eStot)

148 So what do you all think are the chances they're just going to let their luigi assassin just walk? I think it looks pretty good.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 03, 2025 06:06 PM (3uBP9)

149 Ace in the Hole starts out with Douglas riding into town.... It is a classic scene that I will not spoil

Then he goes into a hick newspaper office with the line "how'd you like to make $200?" Asserting that he is a $250 a week reporter but he is willing to work for $50.

Another great line is when the other reports say to him "we're all in the same boat." and Douglas replies "I'm in the boat. You're in the water. Now swim."

Lot's of fun stuff. Worth watching.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 06:07 PM (Ct3NL)

150 I'm still intrigued by those two knuckleheads who wanted to take over that Haitian island and start their own 21st Century Lord of the Flies using homeless people in place of kids.

I've got news for you. If these two geniuses were moving towards something like that, you can bet your house they've been doing so somewhere else on a much smaller scale.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 06:08 PM (dIske)

151
In-between Then & Now

Samantha Fox in 2007:

https://is.gd/zUXgYM

Posted by: Soothsayer says Hello, Faggot Lovers at December 03, 2025 06:08 PM (lWZTA)

152 https://youtu.be/NPzAds5p_nM

In case somebody hasn't posted this yet.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 03, 2025 06:08 PM (6Bc88)

153 Sorry, I got distracted yesterday. Yes, they are the same movie. I do not know why it has two names but I first knew as The Big Carnival. Now it seems everyone calls it Ace in the Hole.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 06:01 PM (Ct3NL)

It's all good.
I figured that was what was going on when Big Carnival only gav me some Eastern European flick with Carnival in the name.

I don't think I've ever seen it, but if it pops up one day on TCM or something, I'll check it out.

The only thing I've seen Kirk in lately is westerns.
War Wagon was on Encore a lot last month.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 03, 2025 06:10 PM (6ydKt)

154 Victor Victoria?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 03, 2025 06:10 PM (W2Pud)

155 I think I like MILF Samantha Fox better than 80s Samantha Fox.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 06:10 PM (kz78D)

156 137 >>> Also the reason why 60's through 00's music is being revisited by yutes. A lot of it has heart, style, and passion lacking in today's dull and drab cookie cutter music.
Posted by: whig
---

Form, structure, melody, purpose.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 06:10 PM (8skTE)

157 I can't fathom Britain.

Who's pulling Starmer's strings.

But it's more than that, as most Brits are going along with it. It's become a kind of collective madness and moving to darkness.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2025 06:11 PM (dtajH)

158 Also the reason why 60's through 00's music is being revisited by yutes. A lot of it has heart, style, and passion lacking in today's dull and drab cookie cutter music.
Posted by: whig
---

Form, structure, melody, purpose.
------

Yeah, even "pop" like Hall & Oates is degrees more complex than "pop" of today.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 06:12 PM (TN0g+)

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