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Hong Kong fire death toll rises to 128, with 200 still missing and 8 more arrested

Residents in Wang Fuk Court have said they repeatedly complained to the city's Labor Department about the flammability of the protective green mesh that was used to cover bamboo scaffolding raised around the buildings, only to be told that the fire risk was relatively low, Reuters reported Friday.

This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing. Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.

Respect for the law, in this case construction regulations, is a shell game in all but the West. Fake the paperwork, use fake and cheap materials, bribe the inspectors, do what you must to maximize profit, and if a few people die? Oh well!

And the state is no better. Building inspectors actively solicit bribes in most of the world! And the regulations written by the regulatory bodies are laughable in their lack of teeth.

But we are busily bringing that mindset to America! Sure, there is corruption in America, and there has always been, but our minimum standards, even with crooked officials are far higher, and more stringently policed than anywhere else. But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.

Soon though!

Posted by: CBD at 12:04 PM

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1 I'll fetch em

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:04 PM (Ia/+0)

2 ?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (8QVSJ)

3 But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.

Yep.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (P5BPp)

4 Read yesterday the Chi-Com are harassing people for helping their neighbors with food, shelter and other assistance
That's the governments job.

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)

5 Every culture is equal, racist!!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:07 PM (pW7uA)

6 Haven't yet seen details on the Stockton massacre. Four dead, all children, a total of 20 people shot.

At a birthday party. Without any more details, I'm gonna guess it was a disgruntled father who wasn't allowed to come.

Gonna further guess the shooter and victims were... ethnic.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (xA5Rj)

7 But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.

Yep.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM

And while everyone is rightly focusing on Islam/Muslims and Somalians and other violent Third Worlders, India is one of the prime offenders of fraud and thievery of American jobs and homes and tax benefits. India needs to be cut off as well. Both with H-1Bs and student visas as well as all the outsourcing going on, especially in the automotive industry and engineering jobs in general.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (P5BPp)

8 Remember most of the world lives with corruption every day
Don't expect those people to change

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (Ia/+0)

9 Not to mention the lowering of standards for original engineering design of structures.

Posted by: The Florida Women's Footbridge Crew at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (8QVSJ)

10 Conversely, people whose homes burned to the ground in Pacific Palisades can't get a permit to rebuild thanks to political corruption and overbearing regulation.

Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 12:09 PM (GALGA)

11 And while everyone is rightly focusing on Islam/Muslims and Somalians and other violent Third Worlders, India is one of the prime offenders of fraud and thievery of American jobs and homes and tax benefits. India needs to be cut off as well. Both with H-1Bs and student visas as well as all the outsourcing going on, especially in the automotive industry and engineering jobs in general.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (P5BPp)

Preach!!

Indians have systematically taken over several industries. Once Sanjeev is a manager, nobody named Dave will ever get hired. But most Americans still think oh they’re the “good immigrants”. Nah bruh. Not even close.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:10 PM (pW7uA)

12 Can't wait till the 'New American's' begin to fly for the large airlines.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (a1415)

13 Overview of the Stockton Mass Shooting

On the evening of November 29, 2025, a mass shooting erupted at a family gathering in Stockton, California, which local officials described as a child's birthday party held at a banquet hall near the 1900 block of Lucile Avenue. The incident, occurring around 6:00 p.m. local time, left four people dead and at least 10 others injured, with reports indicating that a total of 14 individuals were struck by gunfire. Victims ranged in age from children to adults, and children were among both the fatalities and the wounded, including some as young as 9 years old. The shooting has shocked the community, prompting widespread grief and calls for action on gun violence.

What Happened
Location and Context: The event took place at a banquet hall adjacent to an ice cream shop (initially misreported by some sources as occurring inside the shop). Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee confirmed it was a child's birthday celebration...

Grok summary: https://bit.ly/3XWfLLJ

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (P5BPp)

14 Investigation and Suspect Status

Suspect(s): No arrests have been made, and the shooter — or possible multiple shooters — remains at large. Authorities believe the attack was targeted, potentially linked to a personal or gang-related dispute rather than a random act. Social media speculation points to involvement of local rappers (e.g., MBNel and Dougy3z) who were reportedly in attendance, tying into Stockton's history of gang violence involving groups like the Asian Boyz and various Crips factions. However, police have not confirmed these details.

Motive: Early indications suggest it may stem from a local feud, given Stockton's elevated homicide rate (3x the national average, with 87 murders in San Joaquin County in 2024 alone). The SJCSO is reviewing surveillance footage and witness statements.

Grok summary: https://bit.ly/3XWfLLJ

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)

15 Wang Fuk Court?

Tell the Chinese that you can’t do anything with a story that starts out as over the top as that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:12 PM (3U2FH)

16 Wang Fuk Court??

Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)

17 Authorities believe the attack was targeted, potentially linked to a personal or gang-related dispute rather than a random act. Social media speculation points to involvement of local rappers (e.g., MBNel and Dougy3z) who were reportedly in attendance, tying into Stockton's history of gang violence involving groups like the Asian Boyz and various Crips factions.

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So MAGA white supremacists.
- msm

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:14 PM (pW7uA)

18 Wang Fuk was the original name for Wang Chung, but the record companies felt it wasn't marketable.

Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (GALGA)

19 Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?

Posted by: The bacteria on your dish sponge at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (3nLb4)

20
So MAGA white supremacists.
- msm
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:14 PM (pW7uA)

Those pesky Amish again

Posted by: It's me donna at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (VE6XX)

21 Stockton - “Authorities believe the attack was…”

…Everything anyone with the tiniest lick of common sense would imagine it was, without having to lift a finger to investigate.

In another news, Experts say water is wet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (3U2FH)

22 Overview of the Stockton Mass Shooting

The shooting has shocked the community, prompting widespread grief and calls for action on gun violence.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (P5BPp)

Sure.

What community?

Who made calls for action on gun violence.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (EWlvz)

23 China has an interesting history of residential buildings and their construction methodologies.

They also have a considerable amount of rubble from that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (NwnyJ)

24 Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.

Years ago, a black Washington Post reporter wrote about his (unpleasant) time stationed in Africa, and came up with a simple rule - in First World countries, when there is a disaster, you know how many people died in the disaster.

In Africa, they don't count the dead after a disaster - you just have a rough estimate of how many people died.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (xTIDn)

25 Local rappers, eh?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (O+H2/)

26 Same thing happened in London about a decade ago. The type of fire at least.

Posted by: Kolin at November 30, 2025 12:18 PM (uK5Gm)

27 This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing. Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.

I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)

28 Condolences to the families of the children who were shot.

As for the local rap community, sounds like it's time to call for common sense rap reform.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:21 PM (xA5Rj)

29 Location and Context: The event took place at a banquet hall adjacent to an ice cream shop (initially misreported by some sources as occurring inside the shop). Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee confirmed it was a child's birthday celebration..

Occasionally we get video of urban shoot outs and...its like a rap video for real. People spraying and praying into crowds because the guy they want to shoot is in that general direction.

Cops will tell you rap videos are great because it has persuaded urban thugs to have terrible fire arm discipline...but it does mean almost inevitably a bunch of bystanders are going to get shot.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

30 23 China has an interesting history of residential buildings and their construction methodologies.

So, did Vlad the Impaler did of banquets, yet no one raised the question, and history views it with the strange envy which belies the obviousness of the Truth.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 30, 2025 12:22 PM (/UyRh)

31 Bay Area Super fans @Baysuperfans

the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.

Confirmed: Ages of deceased are 30, 22, 14, 8 years old.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (bQ4nt)

32 In Africa, they don't count the dead after a disaster - you just have a rough estimate of how many people died.

The Washington Post reporter had a funny story about trying to enter Angola, and the customs person claimed that the reporter's passport was a forgery (trying to solicit a bribe, of course).

The reporter responded: "You'll agree that if this passport is a forgery, it is a very high quality forgery, right?"

The customs official agreed.

The reporter continued: "And if I had such a high-quality forgery, wouldn't I be using it to leave Angola, rather than enter Angola?"

The customs official didn't have a response - obviously, no one would use a high-quality forged passport to enter Angola.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (xTIDn)

33 Morning all. 36 out. Feel like 28 with wind.
Put the leftover ham & beans on for dinner.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (3k5hk)

34 Everybody Wang Fuk tonight.

Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (vFG9F)

35 Fourteen people were shot, four of the them fatally, at a family gathering in gun-controlled Stockton, California, Saturday around 6 p.m.

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Yeah? Well, if the gun had been on double secret probation this wouldn't have happened.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 12:25 PM (L/fGl)

36 Turkey enchiladas tonight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:25 PM (Rf+3o)

37 I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)

I'm not sure who the shooter worked for, but apparently his brother was CIA. The shooter is said to have been working with military SF.

So when we look for solutions, not only should we not import people from third world shitholes, but we should also send every Spook working for 3 letter agencies and/or military "intelligence" operatives over to those third world shitholes.

They seem to function better there.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (WRA0V)

38 Isn't it funny how the locales with the most stringent gun control laws generally also have the most shootings?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

39 This fire was set by those who oppose our contribution to modern urban life and culture.

Posted by: Big Bamboo at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (oftw2)

40 MBnel is a Filipino American rapper who has built his musical identity around his experiences growing up in Stockton. His stage name is a nod to his crew, the Muddy Boyz, and Mattie Harrell Park, a known gathering spot in his neighborhood.
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However, his affiliation with the Muddy Boyz has also drawn police scrutiny. In a 2020 gang investigation named “Operation Criptonyte,” which targeted several gangs including the Muddy Boyz Crips, MBnel (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon) was arrested on charges of false compartment activity and possession of a controlled substance.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:27 PM (xTIDn)

41 I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)
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Omelets...eggs...that's usually how their argument goes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 12:27 PM (IBQGV)

42
So when we look for solutions, not only should we not import people from third world shitholes, but we should also send every Spook working for 3 letter agencies and/or military "intelligence" operatives over to those third world shitholes.

Taking a step back it should have been an immediate question to everyone as to why we were bringing Afghans to the US. The argument was these people are in danger from the Taliban and need to leave 'Stan...but the US has enough influence with a host of Muslim countries to have sent them their instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (sKqQm)

43 Trouble is, when roasting Chinamen, an hour later-you wanna do it again.

Posted by: Wokking The Dog at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (oftw2)

44 Wang Fuk… there’s a Thai restaurant in Redondo Beach called Phuket Thai…. I was always afraid to say the name of that place with the kids in the car… heh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (/iXAp)

45 33 Morning all. 36 out. Feel like 28 with wind.
Put the leftover ham & beans on for dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (3k5hk
Same here with the breeze bringing it like 28. I wish I had a big plate of mashed potatoes, dressing, giblet gravy, and cranberry sauce.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (i+bC1)

46 Sunday afternoon at the laundromat.
The joys of operating on well water.

Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (Ehb6z)

47 (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon)

Urban names are looking more and more like Star Wars names.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:29 PM (sKqQm)

48 The bamboo will be found to be the least flammable material.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:30 PM (6Egig)

49 I read that the bamboo scaffolding was "ubiquitous" in Hong Kong. Why? Is everything there "under construction" for tax reasons or something?

Posted by: pookysgirl, with a First World mindset at November 30, 2025 12:30 PM (Wt5PA)

50 I'm not sure who the shooter worked for, but apparently his brother was CIA. The shooter is said to have been working with military SF.

There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.

This was not publicized, obviously.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:31 PM (xTIDn)

51 This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing.

Don't forget 'communist'. Never forget the rich and storied history of Communist safety successes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (bss/y)

52 36 Turkey enchiladas tonight.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Pushing the envelope on food safety there.

If you get a belly ache,
And you moan and groan with woe,
Don't forget,
I told you so.

Posted by: Larry Listeria at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (oftw2)

53 MBnel (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon) was arrested on charges of false compartment activity and possession of a controlled substance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:27 PM (xTIDn)

Good thing he was in prison then, or he might have been at that party.

..... What?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (X1yDi)

54 Wang Fuk… there’s a Thai restaurant in Redondo Beach called Phuket Thai…. I was always afraid to say the name of that place with the kids in the car… heh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Poo-ket

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (Rf+3o)

55 Here's something. As many of you know, Dr. Robert Malone was one of Fauci's fiercest critics in the medical community about everything having to do with the china virus and particularly the vaccines. He got his hands on a letter written by Dr. Vinay Prisad at CBER detailing some of the findings of their review of the lies we were told and damage caused by the vaccines and it's bad, particularly for kids and young men.

The FDA appears ready to finally start telling the truth about the vaccines and equally important changing how they evaluate new vaccines. Worth a read.

https://tinyurl.com/484nmr3c

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (viF8m)

56 was arrested on charges of false compartment activity

What the hell is "false compartment activity"?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (xTIDn)

57 The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (3U2FH)

58 American Standard is a thing Capice ?
Building Codes-Google it!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (VPPG8)

59 I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)

I made the mistake of turning on the George Snuffalupagus show on ABC this morning… the news scumbag was interviewing Kristi Noem (whose lips are alarmingly large BTW… Botox injections?) and he just had to say something like “yeah the Afghan shooter came in during Biden but it was the Trump admin that approved his asylum claim in April… see it was your fault”…. He just ignores that it was the Biden admin that brought him in and did all the original “vetting” so that by the time April 2025 rolled around the approval was obviously totally based on info gathered (or not) prior to Trump…. I hate these news-scum with a hot burning passion

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (/iXAp)

60 America runs industrial-scale corruption, not this penny-ante bribing the local building inspector stuff.

Posted by: Go big or go home! at November 30, 2025 12:34 PM (TbWk/)

61 There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.

This was not publicized, obviously.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:31 PM (xTIDn)

I've heard the same. Apparently the number of American GI killed by Afghan "allies" is a national security secret, but the number is not low.

And then of course we must bring those "allies" over here, so they can also kill civilians.

Isn't war wonderful?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (EWlvz)

62 Everything else is a distraction for electoral fraud.

Nothing has been done to address the issue. The communist Democrats realize it is still the key to gaining power.

There are substantial questions about the last election in places like NJ. Those questions are rooted in improbable statistical anomalies such as Democrat voter increases inconsistent with registration and population demographics. And yet nobody is paying attention. Not even Congress. As long as they view raising material, substantive questions about election as some kind of third-rail, Grassy Knoll adventure, we are headed for destruction, and yes, the third-world.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (60OBK)

63 Phu Kat has entered Chat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (6Egig)

64 are rappers territorial?

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)

65 >>There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.

>>This was not publicized, obviously.

Tip of a very large iceberg. This was not a one off. This has been standard operating policy for the CIA and many western intel agencies since WWII.

It's not just the CIA that wants this covered up.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (viF8m)

66 London fire? Think it was Grennel Tower

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (6Egig)

67 Poo-ket
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (Rf+3o)

I always figured there was an accurate pronunciation other than the one that always immediately leapt into my mind… but I couldn’t help it; I saw that sign and FukIt was in my head

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (/iXAp)

68 was arrested on charges of false compartment activity

What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History

Making a hidden compartment in a vehicle that's not art of the original design. Used for smuggling contraband, drugs, etc.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (Rf+3o)

69 What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (xTIDn)

I assumed it's where the drugs are not just in your center console or glove box, but panels on the vehicle are removed, only to find things the car maker didn't put there.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:37 PM (lGyAR)

70 Stockton = 3rd world country

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (L/fGl)

71 are rappers territorial?
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)

Yes, they pee on mailboxes and bus stop benches to let other rappers know where not to cross the line.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (hBtiT)

72 56 was arrested on charges of false compartment activity

What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (xTIDn)

Thank you for asking!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (QGaXH)

73 Allies not killing us?

Capt Nim has entered Chat giving everyone the side-eye.

Yeah when you see a host nation troop pacing your compound, waterboarding is in that mutt's future.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (6Egig)

74 Condolences to the families of the children who were shot.

As for the local rap community, sounds like it's time to call for common sense rap reform.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:21 PM (xA5Rj)

Rappers/gangbangers who can't even respect a kid's birthday party. Sad.

Posted by: pookysgirl, with a First World mindset at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (Wt5PA)

75 Fourteen people were shot, four of the them fatally, at a family gathering in gun-controlled Stockton, California, Saturday around 6 p.m.

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Yeah? Well, if the gun had been on double secret probation this wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

They'll keep coming up with useless ideas that don't work and then eventually say, "if only we made guns illegal!"

Right Becky. Like it worked so well with drugs.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (3k5hk)

76 > What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
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it's that thing when the cops pull you over and you hide your stash under the seat

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (AOsQT)

77 Very true about the bribery and corruption accepted everywhere but the West. We have a friend, rich businessman from Indonesia, who said he puts all his factories in the US even though it's more expensive bc you can enforce a contract in the courts.

But it's coming here too. I quit a job when the immigrant boss handed me a bag of cash "so we don't have to pay taxes." I quit.

Posted by: Random PJ at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (RRCAT)

78 16 Wang Fuk Court??
Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)

Adjacent to Holi Fuk and Wadta Fuk courts

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (QGaXH)

79 The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (3U2FH)

I was traveling through reservation lands yesterday, and not only are they third world shitholes, but every road sign it seems has some scribbling type markings on them.

So yeah, I'm not really joking when I say gangs/rappers/tribes mark their territories.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (A/QNE)

80 Holi Fuk would if she could.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:41 PM (6Egig)

81 He just ignores that it was the Biden admin that brought him in and did all the original “vetting”

That was the point of the so-called "Muslim ban" - that it is impossible to vet people from certain countries, either because the country's government is hostile, or because the country's government is so dysfunctional that there are no central police records.

Afghanistan and Somalia come to mind.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:41 PM (xTIDn)

82 Michael Douglas addressed this in Falling Down

https://youtu.be/-6iVvepxR-M

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (AOsQT)

83 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
HOLY SH*T!

Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.

https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx

Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)

84 We must arm all children at birthday parties in urban areas. Little .22 revolvers. Give them a fighting chance.

Posted by: Shoot Out The Candles at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (oftw2)

85 Tip of a very large iceberg. This was not a one off. This has been standard operating policy for the CIA and many western intel agencies since WWII.

It's not just the CIA that wants this covered up.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (viF8m)

Another thing we can't talk about is how many of the "Special Forces" types are NOT GI Joe, with the rock jaw, saluting flags everywhere he goes, but antisocial types who are recruited precisely because they like killing.

And when they get back here, they beat their wives, they're on drugs, they do all kinds of petty crimes that happen on these military posts, like Ft. Bragg, and much of what they do gets swept under the rug.

Even murders.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (Rn6Z4)

86 Fourteen people were shot, four of the them fatally, at a family gathering in gun-controlled Stockton, California, Saturday around 6 p.m.

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Yeah? Well, if the gun had been on double secret probation this wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

They'll keep coming up with useless ideas that don't work and then eventually say, "if only we made guns illegaL
See, if they disrespect you, just pop a cap in they ass.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (i+bC1)

87 It was Grenfell Tower in 2017 that burned.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (6Egig)

88 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
HOLY SH*T!

Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.

https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)
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Hmmm...Deport "white supremacists" back to Europe? That could make things very interesting for those governments as they continue to import Muslim invaders from North Africa and the Middle East.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 12:45 PM (IBQGV)

89 Deport Jasmine Crockett to Mogadishu.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:45 PM (6Egig)

90 Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?

100% ccp

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (AsaWd)

91 Wang Fuk Court??
Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)

Adjacent to Holi Fuk and Wadta Fuk courts
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (QGaXH)

I'm assuming Judge Wapner not presiding.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (Gei+t)

92 Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.

https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx

*tentatively raises hand*

If white supremacists are as numerous and powerful as you say they are, why are you still here, in Congress, unharmed?

I'll wait.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

93 > that it is impossible to vet people from certain countries, either because
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because those people come from cultures that are incompatible with modern enlightened societies

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:49 PM (AOsQT)

94 68 Making a hidden compartment in a vehicle that's not art of the original design. Used for smuggling contraband, drugs, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (Rf+3o)

I hope that's only a 'crime' if attached to other criminal activity. It's my vehicle - I'll do what I want with it, thank you.

These are screwy laws that mess with our basic liberty to go about our business as we please. For example, I understand from watching the 'Cops' show - it's a crime to take my prescription pills out of their labeled container, place them in a baggie and carry it in my pocket for use later?

What the almighty f***????

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:50 PM (QGaXH)

95 Apparently being an inner city rapper is also incompatible with Western civilization.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:50 PM (6Egig)

96 thank you, D B!

that was a fun movie!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (Cjt/F)

97 Falling Down is an odd movie.

It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

98 Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.

So she wants Trump to deport FBI agents?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

99 If white supremacists are as numerous and powerful as you say they are, why are you still here, in Congress, unharmed?

I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

Jazzy was born and raised in West St. Louis County. Where all the "white supremacists" live in bazillion dollar houses. She attended all the swanky schools, alongside the budding "white supremacists" who run everything.

What do we learn from this?

That Jazzy Crockett is a construct of those very same "white supremacists" who run everything. Including finding black females who look like they might have a political future.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:52 PM (LTnl5)

100 Peter Strozk and Lisa to Lagos Nigeria?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:52 PM (6Egig)

101 This is also the result of relatively recent trends in safetyism. The US were still a pretty dangerous place to work around 1900.

Posted by: PG at November 30, 2025 12:53 PM (hC4Rp)

102 Guy was a hero, man

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:53 PM (AOsQT)

103 Dealing with the Indiana BMV online seems to cut off major opportunities for graft. Just a little bite.

Transaction Fee:

$0.89

for a license renewal.

Posted by: DaveA at November 30, 2025 12:53 PM (FhXTo)

104 ---
Hmmm...Deport "white supremacists" back to Europe? That could make things very interesting for those governments as they continue to import Muslim invaders from North Africa and the Middle East.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 12:45 PM (IBQGV)
*******
In Crockett's world everyone on this blog is a white supremacist.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

105 76 > What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
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it's that thing when the cops pull you over and you hide your stash under the seat
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (AOsQT)

I drive the speed limit, 'cause there's drugs in the car
If I went too fast, I wouldn't get too far
I'd get pulled over and they'd have a look at my eyes
But then they'd let me go, 'cause of the casual way I drive

Posted by: Boy, yer drivin' the speed limit, that's suspicious at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (TbWk/)

106 "62 Everything else is a distraction for electoral fraud.

Nothing has been done to address the issue. The communist Democrats realize it is still the key to gaining power.

There are substantial questions about the last election in places like NJ. Those questions are rooted in improbable statistical anomalies such as Democrat voter increases inconsistent with registration and population demographics. And yet nobody is paying attention. Not even Congress. As long as they view raising material, substantive questions about election as some kind of third-rail, Grassy Knoll adventure, we are headed for destruction, and yes, the third-world.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (60OBK)"

every freakin' word of THIS!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (Cjt/F)

107 Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.

https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)

Crockett continues to redefine stupidity.

I wonder if she realizes her name is appropriated from a white land-grabbing settler?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (y3bZw)

108 Falling Down is an odd movie.

It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

Speaking of movies that have become documentaries, I was watching Hot Shots 2 the other day.

The whole premise of the movie is a bunch of Americans who were captured, we send more forces over to get them out, only to have them captured. Rinse, lather, repeat.

So they go find Charlie Sheen on a reservation, speaking Indian with the natives living in teepees, and bring him back to get our boys back. Meanwhile, the corrupt CIA lady has her own plans.

Meanwhile, the president is Lloyd Bridges, who is damn near identical to Sleepy Joe.

Except Lloyd is actually funny.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:56 PM (z1j+k)

109 Jasmine Crockett still has a way to go before she rivals Maisey Hirano.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:56 PM (6Egig)

110 The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM

The problem with that attitude is they don't stop with killing each other.

Speaking of ghetto culture...

Amiri King @AmiriKing

Garbage ass culture.

This rampant subway theft would be so easy to fix but it seems that everyone in a position of power is completely incompetent.

Might as well hang up some inflatable dartboards while you’re at it.

X video: https://bit.ly/4rkVSeO

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)

111 Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

112 It might be that the HK fire is indicative of Threeth World culture, but shocking nonetheless that it is in HK, given how that city is compared to the rest of the PRC.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 12:59 PM (4786I)

113 New York City is the same. Rotten since the Tammany holidays and the inspectors are routinely bribed. You're on your own as far as safety is concerned, so stay frosty....

I did meet One honest inspector, an American (iykwim), and he busted the landlord, BLDG Management, for electrical code violations in our 5-floor walkup. $25,000. But the most dangerous wiring, ha told me, was grandfathered in.

BLDG was a huge company that had about 4,000 apartments and was run by Lloyd Goldman. Look him up. And one of the cute things they would do is they would gut-renovate vacated Apartments and put in a control panel for the electricity and tell their new tenants they had 60 amps to play with... but the line to the cellar was still a 15 amp line so they constantly be tripping their circuit breakers.

Posted by: Beverly at November 30, 2025 01:00 PM (Epeb0)

114 97 Falling Down is an odd movie.

It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

I think he's more of an anti-hero. An everyman who finally cracks under the system that he unquestioningly served for so long.

"I'm the bad guy?... How did that happen? I did everything they told me to."

Posted by: Not economically viable at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (TbWk/)

115 You have to admit it, "Wang Fuk Court" would be an awesome name for a brothel complex.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (npFr7)

116 That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

It's not taken seriously anymore as an arena of ideas and debate. Why should it with people like Crocked (h/t, RWP) running around?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (4786I)

117 New York City is the same. Rotten since the Tammany holidays and the inspectors are routinely bribed. You're on your own as far as safety is concerned, so stay frosty....

Netflix has a 4-episode series on the assassination of James Garfield. (Death by Lightning)

It's interesting, but the best thing is the stellar cast. They are first rate.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)

118 90 Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?

100% ccp
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (AsaWd)

The CPC does run it but they abide by the 1984 agreement. HK still has its own postal system and currency.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:02 PM (4786I)

119 Speaking of gang bangers, there was an interesting episode of ID's Who Hired the Hitman? A fairly wealthy, elderly family man who was a mob associate survived eight or ten assassination attempts. Not only did his repeated survival not speak to mob involvement but the manner of the attempts was amateurish. Finally, they got him. He was boxed in at a McDonald's drive through when the shooter ran up to his car and fired at point blank range four times. The cops finally figured it out. His middle aged son hired the Bloods to kill him (and his brother) so he could inherit the empire free and clear.

So if you absolutely, positively need the target killed on the first attempt, don't hire the Bloods.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:03 PM (L/fGl)

120 114 97 Falling Down is an odd movie.

It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

From what I have seen of it, the movie should be renamed "Assholes Collide". Everyone in it is a disgusting piece of shit to their fellow man for no other reason other than they can be.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:04 PM (4786I)

121 111 Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

Yes, her ratchet ghetto hoodrat act is entirely performative. It's the Democrats' racist stereotype of an "authentic" strong sassy black woman.

The party of the KKK perpetuating denigrating stereotypes of black people? I shan't believe it.

Posted by: I simply shannot at November 30, 2025 01:06 PM (TbWk/)

122 Speaking of gang bangers, there was an interesting episode of ID's Who Hired the Hitman? A fairly wealthy, elderly family man who was a mob associate survived eight or ten assassination attempts. Not only did his repeated survival not speak to mob involvement but the manner of the attempts was amateurish. Finally, they got him. He was boxed in at a McDonald's drive through when the shooter ran up to his car and fired at point blank range four times. The cops finally figured it out. His middle aged son hired the Bloods to kill him (and his brother) so he could inherit the empire free and clear.

So if you absolutely, positively need the target killed on the first attempt, don't hire the Bloods.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:03 PM (L/fGl)
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*** Agent 47 was unavailable for comment ***

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 01:06 PM (IBQGV)

123 I'm assuming Judge Wapner not presiding.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (Gei+t)

He is not available. Now or ever.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:06 PM (4786I)

124 Local rappers, eh?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (O+H2/)

Well, I guess gang-bangers are ethnic, for some values of "ethnic".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (npFr7)

125 Heading to my aunt's for family Christmas arts and crafts
See you later

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (Ia/+0)

126 I watched an interview that Glen Beck did with the lady CEO of Cracker Barrel and her president of operations. Of course the focus is on their recent branding fiasco with their logo temporarily going away from the old traditional to a new sterile one…. My major takeaway is that C-suite people are totally divorced from reality… they talk in exec lingo no other human beings use and I can’t believe a word they said. Beck actually treated them with kid gloves…. I don’t think they’re humans; they act more like pods

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (xT8gx)

127 111 Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK8)

128 Vetting of in-country assets on the battlefield was never perfect, nor was it a static process. It often had a shelf life as you determined the reliability of that asset, what other assets said about that person, or whether the Tali got to their families and turned them. There were a lot of Afghans with whom we had casual or pedestrian contact, or whom during the course of operations “helped” us. But there were probably a handful who were ultimately deemed reliable or trustworthy. That latter group are the people some guys when to bat for when Biden was abandoning the country. It’s definitely not all of the people that were allowed to settle here. It’s also important to remember what I first stated. That is, we couldn’t really fully “vet” people in-country. It was ultimately based on contact. Ergo, there is zero way to reliably vet these people once they’re here. Overall, in general, I wouldn’t trust people the agency deemed as assets unless it came from someone in operations. See Camp Chapman as one example why.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:10 PM (APX1w)

129 Local rappers, eh?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (O+H2/)

Well, I guess gang-bangers are ethnic, for some values of "ethnic".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (npFr7)

Turns out at least one of them is Filipino!

How's that for diversity.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:12 PM (lGyAR)

130 Marcus - An accurate overview.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (XeU6L)

131 Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK

That is…. Depressing. What about Colin Allred? Wouldn’t he beat her in the primary… I think he’s running (again)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (xT8gx)

132 I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society building ghettos, subsidizing single motherhood, and creating intergenerational government dependence. I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.

Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)

133 Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK

The money people behind the Democrat Party are always looking for the new Bobama.

Cummilla was a dismal failure. This one shows... promise.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (hdZBB)

134 >I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society
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nope
just the votes that could be had

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:17 PM (AOsQT)

135 I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society building ghettos, subsidizing single motherhood, and creating intergenerational government dependence. I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.
Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)

Where are Johnson's offspring?

I assume living a life of comfort, sufficiently insulated from the effects of his efforts.

Now, he's being pitchfork raped by Satan every day, but if he were still alive I think he'd be proud of what he accomplished.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (O+H2/)

136 Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)

137 Why we need feminism.

https://is.gd/KMiXUY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:19 PM (L/fGl)

138 Overall, in general, I wouldn’t trust people the agency deemed as assets unless it came from someone in operations. See Camp Chapman as one example why.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:10 PM (APX1w)

I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)

139 I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.
Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way
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As with all Democrats, his concern was entirely with political power/control. The well-being of the country does not figure into their thoughts, period.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (XeU6L)

140 If you want some idea of how long the CIA has been training indigenous and off the books armies in countries they were looking to destabilize read about Operation Gladio. Not a conspiracy theory, well documented fact. And it's not just the CIA.

And Afghanis weren't the first group we imported into the US.

https://tinyurl.com/zs328569

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)

141 Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)

Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

142 there's little or no altruism in politics
everybody is in it for their own purposes, whether it's to enrich themselves, have their egos massaged, settle scores, etc.

I see the Repubs and the Dems locked in a death struggle to one-up each other. George Carlin likened it to two groups waving their dicks at each other. Forget the collateral damage that is you and me. This is why I despise the Congress of the United States with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns.

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (AOsQT)

143 One of LBJ's kids married a long time Dem party grifter - Chuck Robb, the other daughter made her money directly grifting.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:24 PM (sKqQm)

144
the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.

Posted by: olddog

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Gay rappers?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 01:25 PM (n7rxJ)

145 I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)

The problem of trying to figure out who "the good ones" are is, you started with a corrupt process, and then spent 20 years trying to overcome a flawed and imprecise method of figuring out who you could trust.

Then there's the whole thing about CIA being a corrupt and untrustworthy institution itself. If they're the ones doing the vetting.....

The net result: Dead Americans.

Which is not a sustainable thing. You have to toss the whole factory. Burn it to the ground, and start over.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (Ws+88)

146 1. Stop issuing visas. 2. Deport all male Muslims of military age.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (jt/rW)

147 the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.

Posted by: olddog

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Gay rappers?

Rap has been around for over 50 years. I keep waiting for it to die a painful and well-deserved death.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (Riz8t)

148 Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

Well, it has a practical application. Their hands are already black or brown, so no staining.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (MZ+PY)

149 In hindsight, how bad was disco, really

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (AOsQT)

150 141 Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)

Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

Pretty much everything we get from overseas is harvested, mined, refined, processed, manufactured and assembled by slave or near-slave labor in atrocious conditions and zero occupational condition or environmental regulation. Metals and rare earth minerals for EV batteries? Slave labor, strip mining, and massive contamination. Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.

Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

151 'Tis the season to be jolly!

https://is.gd/NC0SDQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

152 or funk, even

Ohio Players
Earth Wind & Fire

would gladly go back to that

Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:30 PM (AOsQT)

153 I see the Repubs and the Dems locked in a death struggle to one-up each other. George Carlin likened it to two groups waving their dicks at each other. Forget the collateral damage that is you and me. This is why I despise the Congress of the United States with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns.
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (AOsQT)

Carlin was generally right in his diagnosis but he was basically a communist (Democrat) so his solution was worse than the disease. And oddly enough so much of what he railed against the Democrats were doing left and right, but put the blame mostly on Republicans and Christians (whom he hated with a passion).

Posted by: Cognitive dissonance I guess at November 30, 2025 01:32 PM (TbWk/)

154 One of LBJ's kids married a long time Dem party grifter - Chuck Robb, the other daughter made her money directly grifting.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:24 PM (sKqQm)

I assume none of their kids are waitressing at a Dennys?

Or passing out welfare benefits at a state office?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:33 PM (khVJI)

155 >> I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)

Sir, there were far too many agency people with Ivy League degrees in psychology trying to build a profile on assets, and not enough of the operational/SO people like Johnny Spann. When we first started dropping in ODA’s at the beginning, they were invaluable. Most could speak the language, knew the culture, had reliable contacts and could pick up just about any weapon on the battlefield and fight. At some sad point that got traded for people who didn’t make a third of that contribution IMVHO.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JW6Az)

156 ThePersistence
@ScottPresler
ARRESTED

Saim Irgi — an illegal alien from Turkey — has a violent history of strangling & assault.

During apprehension, Irgi attempted to grab an officer’s taser & yelled, “Allahu Akbar.”

Irgi entered the US illegally via Mexico under Biden.

-1 in New York

https://tinyurl.com/34b646kx

Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (NpAcC)

157 Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

How did they come up with the name, Jimmy Choo?

Is that from the children in the factory trying to eat the leather?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:36 PM (tXY4l)

158 There are a class of libertines, like Carlin, that just won't get that they ONLY get to do there thing in a mostly conservative Christian society.

Absent that Christian background you get an increasingly authoritarian regime that will not allow libertine activities for the plebes.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (sKqQm)

159 4 Read yesterday the Chi-Com are harassing people for helping their neighbors with food, shelter and other assistance
That's the governments job.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)

Our government wants the same. Hence the government is AT WAR with civil society. Make no mistake.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (4786I)

160 How did they come up with the name, Jimmy Choo?

Is that from the children in the factory trying to eat the leather?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:36 PM (tXY4l)

A sneeze.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (4786I)

161 ThePersistence
@ScottPresler
ARRESTED

Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (NpAcC)

Oh no! I'm afraid to ask what he did.

Posted by: Didn't Read the Rest at November 30, 2025 01:39 PM (sfOD1)

162 But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.

Yes and no. Recall that the Japan Rail employees who consulted on California's high speed rail project said that California was far more corrupt than the Muslim countries in Africa that they had worked with.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:40 PM (QZThv)

163
Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

I will. For about two seconds.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:40 PM (4786I)

164 Here is a message from the Andrew Wolfe's mother. He's the National Guardsman who is still hospitalized in critical condition:

https://tinyurl.com/3tjs9fka

Posted by: IrishEi at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (3ImbR)

165 150 ...Pretty much everything we get from overseas is harvested, mined, refined, processed, manufactured and assembled by slave or near-slave labor in atrocious conditions and zero occupational condition or environmental regulation. Metals and rare earth minerals for EV batteries? Slave labor, strip mining, and massive contamination. Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

A basis of free trade is the principle of comparative advantage; Country A is good at making one thing, and Country B is good at making another. Why force each country to do what they're bad at when you can simply have them trade with each other instead.

America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

166 When I was working in Hong Kong in the early 90's, when it was still a British colony, I noticed that the scaffolding they used was not metal but bamboo.

Now throw in CCP control and even laxer building standards and you have a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 01:42 PM (BAdM1)

167 That is…. Depressing. What about Colin Allred? Wouldn’t he beat her in the primary… I think he’s running (again)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (xT8gx)

She's got twice his numbers in current Dem party polls. Think about it from a dem party perspective, and realize they're both playing mainly to black voters, small part of the total voters in Texas, but as much as 50% of the Dem primary vote:
Allred: Kind of quiet, ex football player, meant to be unthreatening to white people,
Crockett - Loud, in your face Ghetto Girl who's good at trash talk and shouting down anyone who goes face to face with her in any kind of uncontrolled setting.

Crockett is what Dem voters want right now. Allred couldn't last 5 minutes in a debate with her, not unless he promised to go all Ike Turner on her ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8)

168 Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

Measure the amount of anti-free trade you are.

That is the exact amount of anti-freedom you are.

For me, I like free trade with everyone, as long as it isn't the PRC. Or other hostiles. (And if you won't allow the same access to your markets that you demand of ours, out come the tariffs until you cry uncle.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (4786I)

169 Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

There never is a Pay Day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW)

170 There are a class of libertines, like Carlin, that just won't get that they ONLY get to do there thing in a mostly conservative Christian society.

Absent that Christian background you get an increasingly authoritarian regime that will not allow libertine activities for the plebes.

Yup. It's notable that all of the major pillars of modern globalism are oriented towards more freedom for the elites and none for everyone else.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:44 PM (QZThv)

171 One other point, the kind of graft we are noting here in the third world is NORMAL unfortunately. This is the default state of mankind.

It was Christian Europe that found a different way to work...and then of course later mostly threw it away...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

172 there were far too many agency people with Ivy League degrees in psychology trying to build a profile on assets, and not enough of the operational/SO people like Johnny Spann. When we first started dropping in ODA’s at the beginning, they were invaluable. Most could speak the language, knew the culture, had reliable contacts and could pick up just about any weapon on the battlefield and fight. At some sad point that got traded for people who didn’t make a third of that contribution IMVHO.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JW6Az)
Amad Shah Massoud would have been a good bet but bin ladin killed him on 9/10/01.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (i+bC1)

173 What the hell is "false compartment activity"?

Oh, that's easy - When a trans 'woman' tries to play hide the sausage with her new beau.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (cYBz/)

174 Also visa overstays. Deport.

Posted by: Going deep. Out at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (URO9T)

175 Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK

It is a worry and a concern.

Countering that, so did Beto Pancho. And look at what happened to him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (4786I)

176 169 Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

There never is a Pay Day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW
It’s oompa loompas in the chocolate game.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (i+bC1)

177 Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.

Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)

Mmmm. Chocolate.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (g8Ew8)

178 174 Also visa overstays. Deport.
Posted by: Going deep. Out at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (URO9T

This is why the CBP should be checking everyone's passports, coming AND going, as is done in the Schengen Zone, Japan, the ROK and Australia.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (4786I)

179 I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK8)

180 Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict

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Fine with me so long as it's located in Vatican City.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (L/fGl)

181 For me, I like free trade with everyone, as long as it isn't the PRC. Or other hostiles. (And if you won't allow the same access to your markets that you demand of ours, out come the tariffs until you cry uncle.)

Tariffs should also apply to factors that are gained by violating obvious standards, like child labor, slave or coerced labor, pollution, etc. As long as the 19th amendment stands you'll never be able to roll back environmental regulations here, so you need to start enforcing them there to get actual free trade.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (QZThv)

182 A basis of free trade is the principle of comparative advantage; Country A is good at making one thing, and Country B is good at making another. Why force each country to do what they're bad at when you can simply have them trade with each other instead.

America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).

That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)

183 The problem with Mississippi is that you couldn't get any of the company management to move there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (+mUZM)

184 It is a worry and a concern.

Countering that, so did Beto Pancho. And look at what happened to him.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (4786I)

I don't think she has a chance in a statewide race - because Hispanic voters, especially hispanic men, hate the trash talking ghetto girl type even more than the anglos do. They've got way too much experience with them in their day to day lives.

The Dem's 30 year mistake in Texas has been to think that Hispanics and Black voters can make common ground, but they hate each other more than either of them hate anglos.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK8)

185 There never is a Pay Day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW)

Almond Joy's got nuts.

Mounds is made at the girl slave factory.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (GjxrJ)

186 179 I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK

Exactly. Here's an interesting map comparing each US state's GDP with a corresponding country:

https://is.gd/js3Qn7

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (0CU3H)

187 Far-right white supremacists are the major threat? No.

Here's a meme of the British version of the true situation. Substitute as-needed for the US version -

https://tinyurl.com/yntjh2px

Posted by: Gref at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (5rh/l)

188 Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.

Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)

189 My GOD bless Andrew Wolfe and his family.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (i+bC1)

190 America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

We should be doing anything we want here. The problem is that the United States has 330 million whining little babies who shoot themselves in the foot and then immediately blame everyone and anyone for their very own failings. Americans love to vote in people who do everything possible to either run off businesses or prevent them from starting up, and then they get all bent out of shape when they leave town. We should be DEMANDING our government make things easier for those who want to set up shop here. We should be doing things that make it enticing to operate here, if you are a citizen of this country or are from elsewhere. But we do not.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4786I)

191 Here is a message from the Andrew Wolfe's mother. He's the National Guardsman who is still hospitalized in critical condition:

https://tinyurl.com/3tjs9fka
Posted by: IrishEi at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (3ImbR)
******
🙏
Thanks for the update.
It's sounds as if he was shot in the head, but I am not sure as it hasn't officially been reported.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (NpAcC)

192 188 Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)

$2.50? I topped off for $2.27.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)

193 The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).

That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)

The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)

194 The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).

That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)

But that's exactly the point. What's sold and propagandized as "free trade" is nothing of the sort. But the corporatists LOVE it.

Posted by: Calling it a leg doesn't make a tail a leg at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (TbWk/)

195 Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict

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Fine with me so long as it's located in Vatican City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (L/fGl)

Early First World problem:

I like to check the college football scores, not because I give shoo tits about the games, but I do like the drama of the contest, see who will be crowned Miss America and all that.

When they post the scores, they say "Palestinian State v. East Tennessee Girls Reformatory."

Then they'll show the score: Horndogs 30, Asswipes 13.

And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (y0erj)

196 I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK

Mississippi is in the middle of the ugliest college football divorce I’ve ever seen seen today… Lane Kiffin is apparently a low life who wants to take a new “better” job with LSU but still coach Ole Miss in their playoff run (that’s gross… like announcing to the wife you want a divorce but are gonna stay at the house through the Christmas holiday because you like the decorations)…. He’s threatening to poach staff from Ole Miss unless they let him coach but fortunately it seems the administration has some self respect and says pound sand. I guess sometimes people actually earn the reputation they have….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:57 PM (xT8gx)

197 But that's exactly the point. What's sold and propagandized as "free trade" is nothing of the sort. But the corporatists LOVE it.
Posted by: Calling it a leg doesn't make a tail a leg at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (TbWk/)

Yeah, but around here some of the posters and commenters rag on libertarians, as if it's libertarians who are the corporatists.

When indeed, it's a lot of the politicians with R's behind their names who are responsible for the mess, and going around calling themselves free traders.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:58 PM (1OIAD)

198 And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (y0erj)

hat tip from Texas - everyone knows that Aggies are Asswipes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK8)

199
I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)

People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo

===========

I hope Mississippi starts rising in other metrics as its education reforms produce results.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (n7rxJ)

200 $2.50? I topped off for $2.27.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)
$1.67 with gas points at Brookshires yesterday.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (i+bC1)

201 The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)

No question. The unions are/were as corrupt as everyone else, and if there was a solution to be had it would have been to somehow crush the unions without crushing the American labor force.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (EQnjS)

202 I don't think she has a chance in a statewide race - because Hispanic voters, especially hispanic men, hate the trash talking ghetto girl type even more than the anglos do. They've got way too much experience with them in their day to day lives.

The Dem's 30 year mistake in Texas has been to think that Hispanics and Black voters can make common ground, but they hate each other more than either of them hate anglos.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK

Um, I have no idea what an "anglo" is. I am one-half "anglo" and the rest of my DNA is strewn from the Rhein to Anadyr. : )

Yeah, I cannot see Crocked's ghetto girl act taking off in TX. Never say never, as we HAVE to hold the election, just to make sure. But her act will go nowhere and I think she is running for Senate because she is ejecting from her district if redistricting goes through and eliminates her safe seat. Ejecting and going for broke, as it were.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (4786I)

203
A lot of the "Robots are here, nobody needs to learn or work and money won't exist soon" talk lately from unexpected sources.

Utopian places always have some old fraud behind the curtain.

Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (Y8DZL)

204 hat tip from Texas - everyone knows that Aggies are Asswipes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK

I'm just gonna mark that one as true, without any further investigation.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:01 PM (A/QNE)

205 People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK

If you take away the oil and the banking, what is it then?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (rbvCR)

206 The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).

Unions shot themselves in the foot by joining themselves at the dick with the DNC. Even now when most union membership is pro-Trump the leadership can't stop until Adam Schiff gets a reach-around.

The rest of it is just evading US law. Some of that law's good, a lot of it's retarded. (Basing nuclear energy policy on retarded activists' opinions was, in particular, really really dumb).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)

207
Gas $4.15/gal on California's Central Coast (Monterey, Pebble Beach, Salinas territory)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (n7rxJ)

208 Per Marcus T's solid comment on A'stan above, those seeking more info on the long ultimately (mostly) fruitless effort should read "The Hardest Place", about the Pech Valley. Can't summarize here. But it traces our efforts in one key area over the years. Won't validate any/many of the cartoonish opinions that predominate on the general topic, but very interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2025 02:03 PM (U/Byj)

209 The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)

The ONLY points unions have are stopping competition, erecting barriers and eventually pricing the labor they "represent" out of the job market. They have had their day. And, free trade or no free trade, their time came and went.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:03 PM (4786I)

210 Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)

It is 3.60 here in Oregon. Thanks Tina!

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:04 PM (rbvCR)

211 Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict

Leo is another demonic Pope.

Posted by: Maj. Healey NOT An Institutional Catholic at November 30, 2025 02:05 PM (abIsI)

212 If you take away the oil and the banking, what is it then?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (rbvCR)

If you ONLY take away the banking, it's a Diddy party.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:05 PM (Ws+88)

213 203
A lot of the "Robots are here, nobody needs to learn or work and money won't exist soon" talk lately from unexpected sources.

Utopian places always have some old fraud behind the curtain.
Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (Y8DZL)

When I hear this self-assured talk, I remind myself that, 40 years ago, I read lengthy articles in the paper talking about how teachers would be obsolete in 2000.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:06 PM (4786I)

214 Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict

Imagine going back a few hundred years and telling the then Pope that his follower will be calling for a return of the Holy Land to the Muslim invaders.

If the RCC wasn't so compromised that was lead to his removal from office.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (sKqQm)

215 It is 3.60 here in Oregon. Thanks Tina!
Posted by: Kindltot

3.55 for regular here in WA - on the rez.
4.25 diesel also on the rez. Thanks democrats.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (abIsI)

216 We should be doing things that make it enticing to operate here, if you are a citizen of this country or are from elsewhere. But we do not.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4786I)

The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.
However, even if we dropped all tariffs and regulations, we will still get raped because countries we trade with both subsidize their own exports, and restrict and tax imports to support their own industries. It isn't fair, but it is how it currently is arranged.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (rbvCR)

217 When I hear this self-assured talk, I remind myself that, 40 years ago, I read lengthy articles in the paper talking about how teachers would be obsolete in 2000.

They kind of are even though we still pay them

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:08 PM (sKqQm)

218 Gas $4.15/gal on California's Central Coast (Monterey, Pebble Beach, Salinas territory)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

$1.87 Moore, Oklahoma. $1.99 OKC.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 02:10 PM (3k5hk)

219 (Basing nuclear energy policy on retarded activists' opinions was, in particular, really really dumb).
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)

This is the kind of thing that runs off business. What would happen if the feds ditched strangling regulation, energy was cheap and plentiful, and the schools cranked some competent human capital?

The country, I submit, would have an extremely diverse economy (with yes, lots of The Only Jobs That Matter - manufacturing jobs - mixed in) with the portions of the country in dire economic straits being those like CA, IL and NY that were yesterday's news and have state and local governments that are utterly hostile to business and runs people off to other parts of the country that welcome them.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:11 PM (4786I)

220
They kind of are even though we still pay them
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:08 PM (sKqQm)

The ones that suck are. The good ones are invaluable and still badly needed.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:12 PM (4786I)

221
Unions are gangster-run and have been for a century.

Walter Reuther rolled like a millionaire in his heyday; private planes and "conference centers" that were just playpens.

Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:13 PM (Y8DZL)

222 The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.
However, even if we dropped all tariffs and regulations, we will still get raped because countries we trade with both subsidize their own exports, and restrict and tax imports to support their own industries. It isn't fair, but it is how it currently is arranged.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (rbvCR)

To which I'd say retaliatory tariffs and restrictions on trade here until they change their ways is perfectly fine in my book.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (4786I)

223 >>>>Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)
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Diesel prices, here in Western NC, haven't changed much and still remain over $3.00 to $3.50. Don't understand it.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (n8oIX)

224 I see a guy in Britain was arrest because he posted a picture to social media of him firing a gun while on vacation in the US.

They argued he posted the picture to "intimidate".

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (sKqQm)

225 Depending on the city where one lives, these are already operationally-acceptable 'standards' … sucks 2 B us …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ayRl+)

226 @ 221
Unions are gangster-run and have been for a century.
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Heh. You shoulda seen the Musicians' Union in N'Awlins, brah …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 30, 2025 02:23 PM (ayRl+)

227 And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.

Texas A&M is the Aggies (the A originally stood for agricultural, the M for mechanical - as in engineering - located in semi-rural College Station TX) while the Longhorns are the University of Texas (in Austin). If you don’t know the nicknames, why would you care about the score?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (ZVgZ4)

228 The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.

I am paying tariffs on the medicines I import from Canada, but it’s still cheaper than buying in the US.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 02:42 PM (ZVgZ4)

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