Daily Tech News 27 November 2025

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OpenAI says a dead teenager circumvented ChatGPT safety features before committing suicide. (Tech Crunch)

This comes out of one of the manifold lawsuits for wrongful death levied against OpenAI by the families of, well, crazy people.

And OpenAI actually seems to have a point:
OpenAI claims that over roughly nine months of usage, ChatGPT directed Raine to seek help more than 100 times.
Why didn't you tell him to seek help?

(Produces list of dates, times, and messages.)

We did.
But according to his parents' lawsuit, Raine was able to circumvent the company's safety features to get ChatGPT to give him "technical specifications for everything from drug overdoses to drowning to carbon monoxide poisoning," helping him to plan what the chatbot called a "beautiful suicide."
Y'know, back in the Paleozoic era there were these things called libraries.

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.
OpenAI needs to raise $207 billion by 2030 so that it can... Continue to lose money. (Financial Times) (archive site)

Someone remind me why we are doing this again?

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Public websites in many US states and whatever Canada has instead of states, bailiwicks or voivodeships or something, for potential jury members to access data on their duties had - have - a tiny flaw: You can just look up anyone's details. (Tech Crunch)

Not directly, but like WhatsApp you could simply run through all the possible numbers - even easier in this case because they are sequential - and access every single piece of data. And there was no rate limiting.
Asus' new Lockerstor Gen2 NASes offer up to six 3.5" drive bays, four M.2 slots for storage or caching, and dual 5Gb Ethernet ports. (Notebook Check)

And a PCIe slot if you need more speed.

Priced starting at $470.
What's better than a supercomputer? A supercomputer with baked salmon. (The Register)

Norway's newest supercomputer is also being used to provide warm water for local salmon farms, or, if you dial the heat up just a little...
Reviewing the Framework Desktop. (Serve the Home)

A month ago these AI-oriented systems with 128GB of unified RAM seemed awfully expensive.

Then the prices for regular memory went not merely into orbit, but directly out of the Solar System.

Since prices for these integrated systems have not been adjusted yet, they are suddenly looking much more attractive.
AI companies are moving beyond the scale-up phase. (ABZ Global)

Ilya Sutskever (co-founder of OpenAI and now running his own company) and Yann Lecun (chief of AI at Meta) point out that the age of just scaling things up and getting better results is already over, and that all the money in the world can't make AI actually useful without much more research.

Lecun goes further and says - as I do - that LLMs are simply not a path to real intelligence. He lays out four key elements needed for intelligence, and notes that LLMs do not feature any of them.

Musical Interlude

There was much twitterpation in my anime fan circle when I discovered this one, because we only knew the song from this much later version:

Disclaimer: Yes, your voivodicity.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:00 AM (RuTUS)

2 guten morgen, horde

Posted by: clarence at November 27, 2025 04:00 AM (GE9Fw)

3 Happy turkey day!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 04:01 AM (BLOW1)

4 Mornin'

(back to Thanksgiving prep)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 27, 2025 04:01 AM (sAmhv)

5 >>>US states and whatever Canada has instead of states, bailiwicks or voivodeships or something

hahahaha

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:02 AM (RuTUS)

6 3 Happy turkey day!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 04:01 AM (BLOW1)
🦃

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:03 AM (RuTUS)

7 Good morning. Death to turkeys!

Posted by: Fluffy Nuggets, Jr. at November 27, 2025 04:06 AM (KE3CW)

8 Good evening Pixy,

Any opinions on the various home NAS on the market? I assume that the hardware is roughly equal, so it depends on the software...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2025 04:06 AM (n9ltV)

9 The Rubettes

The lead singer is like a young Tom Jones.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:09 AM (RuTUS)

10 Rejoinder: You are no Vlad Tepes.

Posted by: clarence at November 27, 2025 04:11 AM (GE9Fw)

11 CBD - QNAP has a reputation for security mishaps, Synology has a reputation for locking down hardware after you've bought it, though both have taken steps to repair this.

Asus seems... Generally good.

The little Beelink thing I bought (and have yet to set up) is well-regarded if you only want SSD storage and don't need the fastest speeds. There are a number of small four-drive SSD-based models and most of them overheat.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 04:12 AM (BLOW1)

12 7 Good morning. Death to turkeys!
Posted by: Fluffy Nuggets, Jr. at November 27, 2025 04:06 AM (KE3CW)

That would not make for much of a Happy Turkey Day. For the turkeys.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:14 AM (RuTUS)

13 Someone remind me why we are doing this again?
----

Seeking greater fools. There seems to be no shortage though.

Posted by: clarence at November 27, 2025 04:15 AM (GE9Fw)

14 Pixy....thanks.

The SSD-based ones are still too pricy because of the cost of the memory.

Boring old spinning drives are so much cheaper that it seems to make sense to get a bigger NAS with more slots. The memory is currently running at less than $20/TB!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2025 04:21 AM (n9ltV)

15 in Poland (Wikipedia):

Voivodeships are further divided into powiats ('counties') and gminas ('communes' or 'municipalities'), the smallest administrative divisions of Poland.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:26 AM (RuTUS)

16 CBD - If you need bulk storage, a disk-based system that supports an SSD cache (most do nowadays) is the way to go. Gives you most of the speed at much less cost.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 04:26 AM (BLOW1)

17 >>>or, if you dial the heat up just a little ...

... you have a very large bunny-boiler!

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 04:36 AM (RuTUS)

18 Belated BOING!

Last Win11 migration task. Maybe l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 27, 2025 04:51 AM (NIAdk)

19 Morning, Tech Peeps

Happy Thanksgiving

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 04:53 AM (AN2gy)

20 @Pixy:

Posted in yesterday's "Giving Thanks" thread, was this post by "Crusader" - I promised him I'd carry it forward to today's Tech News:

#72 - I want to say that I'm thankful for Pixy Misa and the Tech Thread that appears every morning. I am NOT techy, but the column is entertaining and well-written. I read it every single day because its a fun read and it helps keep me somewhat aware of what the computer geeks and their money is up to. I know better than to post on an old thread, and I'm never awake when the Tech Thread is active, so I want to say "Thanks!" here instead.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2025 11:18 AM (TN0g+)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 04:58 AM (O7YUW)

21 G&R, there are other nice comments about Pixy in that thread, too.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:01 AM (RuTUS)

22 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 05:03 AM (u82oZ)

23 >>>I know better than to post on an old thread

They're o.k. for at least 24 hours, aren't they?

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:03 AM (RuTUS)

24 Happy Thanksgiving! May your turkey be moist, your sides plentiful, and your guests either simpatico or silent.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 27, 2025 05:04 AM (ExV1e)

25 >>> you have a very large bunny-boiler!

De-optimize that query, Lars. The salmon won't cook thoroughly.

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:05 AM (AN2gy)

26 Good morning Horde and a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
A prayer for guardsmen injured yesterday

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 27, 2025 05:06 AM (bfwj/)

27 and whatever Canada has instead of states, bailiwicks or voivodeships or something

Dysfunctionships!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:08 AM (O7YUW)

28 Dysfunctionships!
----

Stay in your lane. That's our gig.---USN

Posted by: clarence at November 27, 2025 05:10 AM (GE9Fw)

29
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 27, 2025 05:10 AM (tljrc)

30 fin

Posted by: clarence at November 27, 2025 05:11 AM (GE9Fw)

31

Good morning, good people, from the Adirondacks. No superlatives necessary, the place stands on it's own considerable merits.

And once more, may all your efforts result in maximal benefit to you, with the accompanying grievous heartburn for the leftwit fungi crawling about.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 27, 2025 05:12 AM (vFbHf)

32 @21/m: "there are other nice comments about Pixy in that thread, too."

Yup, in #93, was this one by "Mike Hammer":

Always informative, even though I'm still mired in 2005 technology. Pixy's a gem.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 26, 2025 11:24 AM (XeU6L)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:13 AM (O7YUW)

33 Thanks for pointing me to that, G&R. I don't often get to read the Morning Rant (or non-rant in this case) thread - I'm usually asleep when it goes up and by the time I'm awake there are a few posts above it.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 05:15 AM (BLOW1)

34 Definitely tech thread worthy:

Beware the Iranian androids!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/39ftuj7e

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 27, 2025 05:17 AM (NIAdk)

35 G'Day everyone
That's better
Blueberry pancakesabd sausages for breakfast

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2025 05:18 AM (+qU29)

36 @28/clarence: "Stay in your lane. That's our gig.---USN"

*snorts* Sending this exchange to a Mustang friend of mine.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

37 @33/Pixy: Quite welcome, Pixy! And let me just echo their sentiments: Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day. I can't imagine waking up and not having this wonderful place to start my day.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:26 AM (O7YUW)

38 >>> Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day.

Bears repeating

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)

39 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at November 27, 2025 05:30 AM (XQo4F)

40 Bears repeating

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)
-

Tums Chewables.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 27, 2025 05:32 AM (NIAdk)

41 That is just so awful about Chat GPT encouraging a kid to commit suicide. They ought to be sued.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 05:36 AM (ELdpA)

42 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:26 AM (O7YUW)

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 05:36 AM (ELdpA)

43 @41/FenelonSpoke: "They ought to be sued."

Your wish has been granted:
"OpenAI faces 7 lawsuits claiming ChatGPT drove people to suicide, delusions"

https://tinyurl.com/mrx6dk3f
(goes to thehindu.com)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:39 AM (O7YUW)

44 I’ve got nothing to do and nowhere to be until dinner time tonight yet my brain has decided that 5 a.m. is still a perfect time to wake up and stay up.

A few more hours of slumber would’ve been nice.

——-

OpenAI needs to raise $207 billion by 2030 so that it can... Continue to lose money. (Financial Times) (archive site)

Someone remind me why we are doing this again?

Because tech needs a new bubble.
First it was the video game bubble, then the PC bubble, then the Dot Com bubble, then it was Web 2.0/Social Media, then it was Bitcoin/Crypto/Blockchain, and now it’s AI.

It’s the most bubbleicious sector of the economy since the railroad boom and they’ve gotta keep going with a new bubble every decade it seems.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 05:41 AM (6ydKt)

45 Someone remind me why we are doing this again?

Because mining bitcoin didn't cause a complete collapse of all other technological industries by making computer components absurdly expensive so they need to try again?

Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2025 05:46 AM (3tZV2)

46 38 >>> Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day.

Bears repeating
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)

Lions repeating.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:55 AM (RuTUS)

47 UGreen, makes of cables, docks, power delivery devices has put out a NAS that’s very similar to the Asus version above.

They’ve got two or four bay versions at $167.99 & $339,99 respectively at Amazon right now.

It’s named the UGREEN NASync DH4300 Plus for the four bay and has a 120TB capacity.

https://tinyurl.com/286hrkd7
(Amazon)

They are pretty snazzy looking boxes, If anybody is interested.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 05:57 AM (6ydKt)

48 Spouse and I are continuing to listen to David Suchet read the Bible . It is available on the net. We skipped to the NT and are listening to David Suchet read Matthew 14. about the killing of John the Baptist and Jesus feeding the 5000 and walking on water It is well done. An interesting thing to me is that David Suchet pronounces "ate" as "et as I. "they et their full."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:02 AM (Nx5jP)

49 38 >>> Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day.

Bears repeating
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)

Bears bears bears bears bears bears bears …

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at November 27, 2025 06:03 AM (JRP2U)

50 46 38 >>> Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day.

Bears repeating
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)

Lions repeating.
Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:55 AM

Tigers repeating.

Posted by: Oh, my! at November 27, 2025 06:04 AM (XQo4F)

51 Or, more appropriate for the tech thread:

While 1 { bears }

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at November 27, 2025 06:04 AM (JRP2U)

52 "He lays out four key elements needed for intelligence, and notes that LLMs do not feature any of them."

Those four key elements have been pointed out no later than the early 1990s when I took my last AI course at the University of Michigan.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at November 27, 2025 06:06 AM (7+vRN)

53 Bears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6d_q9kYGA

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 06:07 AM (AN2gy)

54 A woman reflects on Proverbs 22:1-6 in this Christian devotional about a humble Thanksgiving
and bringing up children in reverence of the Lord:

https://tinyurl.com/y47usnhx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:09 AM (PFs9e)

55 Hey you thankful people - git yer butts over here!
Now raise that damn song of harvest home!

Posted by: Guy wearing shoes with big buckles on them at November 27, 2025 06:11 AM (XQo4F)

56 51 Or, more appropriate for the tech thread:

While 1 { bears }
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at November 27, 2025 06:04 AM (JRP2U)

This REEKS of math.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 06:11 AM (RuTUS)

57 G'morning, all!

May we all spend some time today in reflection, and give thanks for the bounties which have been provided to us.

And...may those who are traveling enjoy safe travels.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2025 06:12 AM (a1415)

58 50 46 38 >>> Thank you for keeping this site going for all of us and for posting the Tech News every day.

Bears repeating
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)

Lions repeating.
Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:55 AM

Tigers repeating.
Posted by: Oh, my! at November 27, 2025 06:04 AM (XQo4F)

ANIMALS!

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 06:13 AM (RuTUS)

59 Genesis 28:35

"I will praise the Lord."

International Fellowship of Christians and Jews

https://tinyurl.com/2wdcp5ca

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:15 AM (PFs9e)

60 Prayers for people who are missing loved ones who died over the past year.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:15 AM (PFs9e)

61 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2025 06:12 AM (a1415)

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:16 AM (PFs9e)

62 43 @41/FenelonSpoke: "They ought to be sued."

Your wish has been granted:
"OpenAI faces 7 lawsuits claiming ChatGPT drove people to suicide, delusions"

https://tinyurl.com/mrx6dk3f
(goes to thehindu.com)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 05:39 AM (O7YUW)

closer to hand, from the Pixy-linked OpenAI/ChatGPT article (TechCrunch; first line of the article!):

In August, parents Matthew and Maria Raine *sued* OpenAI and its CEO, Sam Altman, over their 16-year-old son Adam’s suicide, accusing the company of wrongful death.

Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 06:18 AM (RuTUS)

63 From the Framework Desktop review:

That brings us to the most bizarre feature. There is a PCIe Gen4 x4 slot on the motherboard.

While that is exciting, someone forgot to put a low-profile card I/O slot between the PSU and the motherboard on the rear of the system. This is a huge miss, and one that even, having used the system for more than a month, I cannot get over. Perhaps you can stick an M.2 card in there, but it would have opened up the possibilities of this system so much to just have a low-profile card slot here (and an open-ended PCIe slot.) You end up with a PCIe Gen4 x4 slot that is not very useful because of the chassis design.

Yeah, that was a huge oversight.
Even if that slot is barely usable to begin with it would be nice to have somewhere to plug cables into it without cutting holes are leaving the side open with cables hanging out.

STH is the first reviewer I’ve seen mention this problem.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 06:19 AM (6ydKt)

64 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, guv'nor

Cold here.

I had my Thanksgiving meal with NotSoThoreau on Monday. She is good people.

This will be the first Thanksgiving since my wife died. I miss her keenly. She always made me thankful.

I stood on watch most Thanksgiving while I was in the Service, so I could get Christmas with my family. But I have been estranged since Obama from them.
My wife was a blessing in that regard.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:23 AM (u82oZ)

65 Oh my!!

Bears repeating
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2025 05:28 AM

Lions repeating.
Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 05:55 AM

Tigers repeating.
Posted by: Oh, my! at November 27, 2025 06:04 AM

ANIMALS!
Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 06:13 AM

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:24 AM (u82oZ)

66 FenelonSpoke

Thank you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

67 Posted by: m at November 27, 2025 06:18 AM (RuTUS)

Thanks. I was using "ought" as "should be"
because I thought it was a good thing they were being sued. I cannot even imagine the anguish of those parents.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:26 AM (looXz)

68 Greetings and good morning, everyone! I just fired up the coffee pot, the dogs are still snoozing and in a few hours we are heading to my mother in law's house.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 06:26 AM (7xrfc)

69 Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

You don't have to thank me, Salty. I care about you and think so highly of you. Do you have plans for today?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:27 AM (looXz)

70 Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 06:26

I hooe you have a lovely day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:28 AM (looXz)

71 David Suchet reading scripture?

Though I'm sure it would be good for my little grey cells,
I don't want to be hastings in my judgement.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 27, 2025 06:28 AM (zdLoL)

72 63 From the Framework Desktop review:

...

Even if that slot is barely usable to begin with it would be nice to have somewhere to plug cables into it without cutting holes are leaving the side open with cables hanging out.

STH is the first reviewer I’ve seen mention this problem.

Posted by: SpeakingOf

I did see that in the original announcement. They also sell the bare motherboard for people assembling their own systems, but it is kind of weird they created a not-exactly-tiny case that doesn't accommodate the slot at all.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 06:29 AM (BLOW1)

73 One thing I noticed. It's so quiet outside today. I am thankful for that . The landscaping trucks are not going 30 miles over the speed limit down the road 😕

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:30 AM (looXz)

74 Salty!

While it is sometimes difficult to find things to be thankful for, perhaps consider the joy and friendship that you yourself bring into this world.

And that includes this whacky place known as AoSHQ. A stranger collection of folks, led by a slightly neurotic Ewok has never before been seen in the universe. But yet...here we are.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2025 06:31 AM (a1415)

75 Thank you, Fen. Hope you have a good one today. Are you hosting?

Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 06:31 AM (7xrfc)

76 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes. Happy Thanksgiving.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 27, 2025 06:32 AM (bQ4nt)

77 *I don't want to be hastings in my judgement.*

That's okay. According to the song there's a lot of chastening and hastening going on this time of year.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 27, 2025 06:32 AM (XQo4F)

78 FenelonSpoke

Repair work on a closet door and other such chore. No in-person social interactions.

The house is very quiet, so I will also get in a nap.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:33 AM (u82oZ)

79 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 27, 2025 06:28 AM (zdLoL)

LOL

He apparently had a conversion experience whiich began with his looking at a Gideons Bible in a hotel room and is now a Christian . It's really great to have a trained actor and a man of faith read scripture. It really makes it come alive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:34 AM (looXz)

80 Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:33 AM (u82oZ)

I am glad to read that you had a nice meeting with Notsothoreau. I enjoy her post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:35 AM (looXz)

81 Village Idiot's Apprentice

I do have much to be thankful for.

My friends at AoSHQ are front and center in my gratitude.

I burbled with happiness at the 10th Texas MoMeet.
So many outstandingly great people.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:36 AM (u82oZ)

82 Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 06:31 AM (7xrfc)

I'm only hosting my family. My relatives live in England and my husband's closest brother always works on TG. Other people at church had plans . I

I am also thankful I do not have to deal with angry divergent political opinions., such as some families have .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:38 AM (looXz)

83 Time for the traditional last minute run to the supermarket ! Have a peaceful day, everyone.
I am thankful for the pleasant , interesting people on this thread!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:40 AM (looXz)

84 Next to blood kin, my church family, this moron group is most precious to me, and I am very thankful for you..

Posted by: Eromero at November 27, 2025 06:41 AM (i+bC1)

85 84 Next to blood kin, my church family, this moron group is most precious to me, and I am very thankful for you..
Posted by: Eromero at November 27, 2025 06:41 AM

Likewise.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 27, 2025 06:45 AM (XQo4F)

86 The Tyler Technologies CVE was known earlier than two years ago.

cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/ on 2023/11/30/ with the title:
Multiple Vulnerabilities Affecting Web-Based Court Case and Document Management Systems

Posted by: Rod at November 27, 2025 06:46 AM (zhWvq)

87 Evening and morning on this Thor's Day and day of giving thanks. I actually slept seven hours last night without the great black cat leaping across me. I put it down to the handful of dry food I put in their spare bowl last night. That way, I hoped, he wouldn't be quite so hungry at 3 am. Success!

How is everybody's day so far?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 06:46 AM (wzUl9)

88 Coffee finally on.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2025 06:50 AM (+qU29)

89 Coffee finally on.
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2025

***
Skip, you're not working today, are you?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 06:52 AM (wzUl9)

90 Multiple Vulnerabilities Affecting Web-Based Court Case and Document Management Systems
Posted by: Rod at November 27, 2025

***
I remember when a "document managing system" was one or more clerks, usually female, in a light sweater and glasses.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 06:54 AM (wzUl9)

91 Have a blessed day, filled with warm memories and gratitude in abundance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2025 06:55 AM (u82oZ)

92 . . . While it is sometimes difficult to find things to be thankful for, perhaps consider the joy and friendship that you yourself bring into this world.

And that includes this whacky place known as AoSHQ. A stranger collection of folks, led by a slightly neurotic Ewok has never before been seen in the universe. But yet...here we are.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2025

***
Echoed +100. If it had not been for the support of people here during the Sniffle Scare, I might have succumbed to society's mental pressure and begun to believe the hoax. AoSHQ was a bastion of sanity and company during that dark time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 06:56 AM (wzUl9)

93 I did see that in the original announcement. They also sell the bare motherboard for people assembling their own systems, but it is kind of weird they created a not-exactly-tiny case that doesn't accommodate the slot at all.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 27, 2025 06:29 AM (BLOW1)

It’s probably that Framework designed this system before they started getting the motherboards in. The board looks like the same motherboards MinisForum puts out with the mobile chip soldered in and heatsink already installed.

So they designed it around an ITX motherboard size and didn’t even think about the PCIe slot until they started arriving and then they said “Ooops, too late to change anything on the chassis now!”

If it happened any other way than that somebody just wasn’t paying attention who should have been.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 06:59 AM (6ydKt)

94

One day is hardly time enough to give thanks for living in this most exceptional country. A brief moment during the day over time might come close.

Anyway, the day is here, so may all of you have the most blessed Thanksgiving possible.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 27, 2025 06:59 AM (vFbHf)

95 I'm off to work. May you all have a fantastic ThanksGiving.

Reflect on the blessings you have in your life right now, and give thanks to God.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 27, 2025 07:00 AM (O7YUW)

96 I did my regular shopping yesterday. Earlier I was waiting for my SS check to hit the bank. Still, it wasn't too bad. I was in and out of Walmart in twenty-five minutes. The local chain grocery was a bit slower, but they use actual clerks instead of the self-checkouts (which WM is phasing out, thank goodness). I was stuck in line behind a single mom whose little daughter kept calling me "Daddy." The woman shrugged. "She calls every male figure she sees 'Daddy.' I dunno why."

I could have told her why -- no male presence in the home, no doubt, and Big Government as Daddy -- and that she'd better be careful about her daughter's future life and choices. But I was nice and kept my mouth shut.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:02 AM (wzUl9)

97 Forgot to mention the update on the work annoyance from Monday.

Quick summary: The contract we were on had not been extended and we were told to stop work immediately at 9. Co-worker reaches out to our boss and lets him know what happened.

Boss's reaction was basically "What? This is the first time I'm hearing about this" and he gets involved.

In the end, the contract got an extension on Monday afternoon, we were given up to 8 hours of furlough that doesn't count against our PTO and all is normal again.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 07:02 AM (7xrfc)

98 Winter like here .enough snow to cover grass 29 degrees and breezy

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 27, 2025 07:03 AM (/6GbT)

99 The turkey had to die so I could live. The end.

Posted by: Kingsman at November 27, 2025 07:07 AM (ehY6c)

100 Just 51 F. here with some brisk wind. About five degrees warmer than the prediction. Tomorrow, supposedly, it will fall to about 43 in the early morning. Good workout weather, if the wind isn't too strong.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:07 AM (wzUl9)

101 100

Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 07:07 AM (7xrfc)

102 Missed it by that much!

Posted by: NR Pax at November 27, 2025 07:07 AM (7xrfc)

103 G'mornin' everyone!

at almost 100 comments, everything I would say has been said above; I endorse the Sense of the Horde wholeheartedly!

and Thank You Pixy, for everything you do!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 27, 2025 07:10 AM (Cjt/F)

104 Thursday meme drop from Midwest Chick: https://tinyurl.com/4uxym2mj+

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 27, 2025 07:12 AM (ExV1e)

105 Oh, yeah, there's that Bayou Classic college football thing happening tomorrow. Note to self: Do not go downtown for anything, not that I would nowadays, and do not go into a Waffle House or IHOP. The former here is too dangerous and the latter too crowded and noisy in the overnight hours, and too expensive as well.

Tomorrow Linda wants to go to the Dillard's Outlet store in the suburbs, and has expressed a desire for some new lipstick for her birthday (which is Monday). Neither of those sounds too horrible.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:12 AM (wzUl9)

106 Rush Limbaugh on the True Story of Thanksgiving:

https://tinyurl.com/ytzecap6
(Rumble Video)

It’s always a good reminder of what actually happened to the Pilgrims.
And Rush tells the story as only he could.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 07:12 AM (6ydKt)

107 Happy Thanksgiving, dear Hordelings! I will be heading to Mass soon and you all are on my list of people for whom I am thankful. Even if you are alone today, remember that there are people who are thankful for you, even if you've never met in person.

Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2025 07:15 AM (79pEw)

108 I haven’t been in a Dillard’s since the late 90s.

Heck, I don’t think I’ve set foot in any mall in 20 years.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 07:17 AM (6ydKt)

109 What is a Sprite?
Short video explaining from Dailytimewaster
https://tinyurl.com/epc47am2

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2025 07:18 AM (+qU29)

110 I haven’t been in a Dillard’s since the late 90s.

Heck, I don’t think I’ve set foot in any mall in 20 years.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025

***
Most of our malls are gone. There are only two major ones, one near me and one in the western suburbs, and they are doing well (though the one near me, the area's first enclosed mall, is turning into Mogadishu). The Dillard's Outlet is housed in a dead mall building in the far western area. There's a Target nearby and a few other outlying businesses. Not hard to get to and very easy to park.

Maybe we can have lunch afterward at a Dot's Diner on the major boulevard south of there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:22 AM (wzUl9)

111 Good morning morons and Happy Thanksgiving

You are my Candy Girl,
And I can't stop loving you.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 27, 2025 07:23 AM (9ipOP)

112 I miss Rush.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 27, 2025 07:23 AM (XQo4F)

113 And I just had to buy Sprite last night because the store had no ginger ale, at all.

Interesting phenomenon though, Skip.

That photographer knows he spends a lot of time waiting around for some good thunderstorms and then more time waiting for the sprites to show up.

He got some great shots out of it, though, so it’s worth the wait.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 07:23 AM (6ydKt)

114 Thank you Pixy!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 27, 2025 07:25 AM (9ipOP)

115
7up.

Posted by: The Uncola at November 27, 2025 07:26 AM (XQo4F)

116 I am convinced CW at dailytimewaster.blogspot.com does see AoSHq often as things here show up very fast there.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2025 07:26 AM (+qU29)

117 Most of our malls are gone. There are only two major ones, one near me and one in the western suburbs, and they are doing well (though the one near me, the area's first enclosed mall, is turning into Mogadishu).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:22 AM (wzUl9)

There’s only one real indoor mall here now.
There used to be two, but the other closed several years ago and is supposed to be redeveloped.

The one that’s still open has the Mogadishu problem as well.

There’s still a big Tanger Outlet shopping center that’s taken most of that business, along with Amazon and Walmart.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 27, 2025 07:27 AM (6ydKt)

118 midwestchick's Thursday Meme Drop:

https://is.gd/8tPCLp

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 27, 2025 07:28 AM (Cjt/F)

119 The Edward DeBartolo company out of Youngstown, OH were pioneers in mall development. They built and developed a lot of them in the day. I was watching some show on abandoned malls, and most were their projects. The family is a major owner of the SF 49s, so they didn't have to sign up for food stamps.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 27, 2025 07:32 AM (gm9Sb)

120 Been to Dot's Diner and Dilliards in our pre Katrina days. Wife still mourns for the Big Easy.

Posted by: Kingsman at November 27, 2025 07:32 AM (ehY6c)

121 What’s ironic, or maybe not, the rise of shopping malls were (more or less) partly a direct result of the fact that shopping “downtown” was untenable after 1968.

I remember vaguely that going shopping downtown was kind of a big deal. Apparently involved lots of perfume, and scarves. Mom had gloves she would wear when going on about town to buy more shoes and unmentionables.

Grocery shopping. You paid for your stuff, and then went and got your car. Pull up to the delivery area and they would load your car filled with groceries. $20 was a LOT of food. Won’t even buy a pack of smokes some places now.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 27, 2025 07:35 AM (B4klT)

122 Spouse and I are continuing to listen to David Suchet read the Bible . It is available on the net. We skipped to the NT and are listening to David Suchet read Matthew 14. about the killing of John the Baptist and Jesus feeding the 5000 and walking on water It is well done. An interesting thing to me is that David Suchet pronounces "ate" as "et" as in "they et their full."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2025 06:02 AM (Nx5jP)

My grandmother on my mother's side of the family also pronounced "ate" as "et." She was born in 1915 and raised in the "hollers" of West Virginia coal country.

I suspect it is an older British pronunciation that was still preserved in Appalachia at the time.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 27, 2025 07:37 AM (pJWtt)

123 121 I just went down memory lane counting department stores that were downtown when I was a kid. Sears, Penny's, Grants, two local but big stores, Wards and a real big Western Auto. Lots of clothing stores, sporting goods, and of course, Kresge's. All gone.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 27, 2025 07:41 AM (gm9Sb)

124 Been to Dot's Diner and Dilliards in our pre Katrina days. Wife still mourns for the Big Easy.
Posted by: Kingsman at November 27, 2025

***
It was annoying then, but at least some of the so-called "charm" was left. Now it's moved into Pesthole territory.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:41 AM (wzUl9)

125 Stupid people need their own space too, which is why we exist.

Posted by: OpenAI, Helping those who need help at November 27, 2025 07:41 AM (s0upz)

126 Memory Lane meets DeadMalls.com

https://www.deadmalls.com/stories.html

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2025 07:43 AM (a1415)

127
JJS

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 27, 2025 07:44 AM (gbOdA)

128 The 1930s Lubitsch film The Shop Around the Corner with James Stewart and Margaret Sullavan is on Movies! now. It's basically You've Got Mail with even more charm and historical interest.

I think Jimmy was fond of the fedora he wears in this one. It looks to be the same hat he also wore in ]i]Call Northside 777 and It's a Wonderful Life. Maybe not, though; I think the brim is a bit shorter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 27, 2025 07:45 AM (wzUl9)

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