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GOP Worries About Midterms "Wipeout"

I think we're all a little worried.


GOP lawmakers are growing increasingly concerned over signs the 2026 midterm elections could be a wipeout for Republicans that could cost them control of the House and shave down their Senate majority by two or three seats.

Republican senators say the off-year elections in New Jersey, Virginia and other parts of the country on Nov. 4 served as a wake-up call and warn that President Trump and Republican leaders in Congress need to address voters' concerns about the slowing economy and persistently high prices.

Republicans acknowledge that rising health insurance premiums, the issue Democrats want to put front-and-center in the election year, along with health care costs, more generally, are a major problem for their party.

There's growing anxiety in the Senate and House GOP conferences that Trump's sinking approval rating will create a headwind in swing states and districts.

But GOP lawmakers say they still have time to improve their party's image before next November.

They argue Democrats' failure to come up with effective solutions to rein in health care costs and the rising power of far-left Democratic candidates gives them a chance to cling onto power in Washington.

"If we are where we are today in the beginning of the second quarter [of 2026], then I think we're in for a really rough time in November," warned retiring Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who represents a Senate battleground state Democrats are targeting next year.

"We have plenty of time to address it. There's a lot of positive things that we're doing here, that the administration is doing. But if you mess with health care ... if we don't get health care policy right, if we don't get some of the cost policies right, we're going to have major headwinds next year," he said.

Most concerning for GOP lawmakers is Trump's approval rating, which has sunk to 41.9 percent in the most recent polling average compiled by Decision Desk HQ (DDHQ). The president's disapproval rating has climbed to 55.7 percent.

Another disquieting sign is that Democrats now have their biggest lead of the election cycle on the generic ballot for Congress. The latest DDHQ average shows Democrats beating Republicans 46.8 percent to 41.4 percent on the generic ballot.

That's a 5.4% lead. The Democrats had an 8% lead when they won the midterms in 2018.

We're not there yet but we are getting there.

One Republican senator who attended a recent GOP conference meeting at the National Republican Senatorial Committee headquarters said concerns about the approaching election year are "high."

"The numbers are terrible," the lawmaker said. "Not necessarily for any individual incumbent senator, although some of them aren't very good. But you saw what happened a couple weeks ago [on Nov. 4]: Republicans didn't win anything anywhere."

And the problem continues to be that Trump attracted a lot of blue collar voters who, unfortunately, are not likely voters and who also do not show up to vote for other Republicans. They like Trump, seeing him as a different kind of Republican who appeals to union hall Democrats, but they do not like other Republicans, and Trump has never been able to convince them to vote for other Republicans.

I don't think he tries hard enough. I think he has to make the case, in a major national campaign, that it is absolutely necessary for Trump's personal political fortunes that he doesn't have a Congress controlled by "lunatic left-wing Democrats" impeaching him every five minutes like he did from 2019-2020.

Below, Harry Enten discusses Trump's very high level of support in the GOP itself, but he's slipping with independents.

I hear more and more complaints, including from actual Republicans, that inflation is still high. The assumption people have continues to be that prices should fall back to what they had been. As I keep saying, we can't have prices fall without actual deflation, which the Fed would never allow to happen, because the downsides of deflation are too high. (People stop investing because their money is already appreciating in value if they just hoard it under the bed.)

Maybe Trump has to give a national address -- he really should give some of these from time to time -- to readjust public's expectations about prices actually falling. They won't fall. It will never happen. Inflation will be beaten when the rate of inflation slows to 2% per year. People waiting for prices to fall will be waiting forever.

Kurt Schlicter noticed the blue mood of conservatives, and wrote a column to cheer us up.

Welcome to the doldrums, the period of problems, the phase of foul-ups, the time of the sucking. And it does suck. Everything seems to be going wrong for Republicans right now. We were flying high a few weeks ago, when Donald Trump negotiated the end of the Gaza War, and then it was all downhill. Lost elections, economic uncertainty, Epstein file stupidity, fear that the conservative movement will tear itself apart over people who aren't even conservative, and Marjorie Taylor Greene's face all over our social media feeds. Yeah, it's bad. You're at the top one day, then the next day you're at the bottom.

But we've been around the block before. We've done this a few times. Most of us reading this and watching what's going on have seen this story arc play out in the past. You start out strong, you go hard for a while, and then the problems pop up. That's the way of every human endeavor. Nothing is perfect, and the inevitable imperfections build up until they threaten to stop your progress and must be dealt with. It's particularly exaggerated in the case of Trump 2.0. Why? Because Trump 2.0 has been so massively successful. Go back just six months. It was win after win after win. We shut down the border. We took out Iran's nuclear program. DOGE was purging timeservers and non-hackers. We were kicking over the feed troughs at USAID and elsewhere. Freaking PBS was dead. Sure, there were obstacles, but the pinkos were not going to just give up their power politely merely because the voters rejected them. It was awesome.

Yet, it is the comparison with those dizzying heights that makes the current depths look so much more bottomless. They're not. The conservative movement/MAGA/America First/Whatever You Call It is unlikely to crack up because Tucker Carlson has cracked up. The affordability crisis is unlikely to persist all the way to the next elections. And those elections are not necessarily going to be a massive defeat. But it sometimes seems like those things are inevitable because it's so miserable right now.

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The economy may remain stubbornly bad, or stubbornly perceived as bad, but we've been to this rodeo before. Ronald Reagan took a couple of years to turn things around, but when he did, there was an enormous boom. Donald Trump took a couple of years to turn things around during 1.0, but when he did, there was an enormous boom. Are you seeing a pattern of what happens when conservative policies are put in place? Sure, we have the tariffs wildcard, but we haven't seen tariffs driving up inflation the way we were promised by the critics. The inflation rate is down. That's undeniable, and it's beginning to manifest in certain products.

For you Youngs, the analogue I'm looking at is also Reagan. Paul Volcker raised interest rates sky-high in the beginning of Reagan's term to end the very high inflation rate. The economy sunk into a very deep depression. Those who remember Reagan as presiding over a booming economy didn't live through 1981-82, when the economy was the worst it had been in decades -- and even worse than it was under Jimmy Carter.

The feeling of depression resulted in a bunch of movies about the economy. Mr. Mom, for example, is about an auto worker laid off from the then-collapsing US auto industry.

Anyway, Reagan got his bad news out of the way early, setting up one of the greatest economic expansions beginning in 1983.

So I've been watching the economy looking for signs of a big turn. Trump had one in his first term. It was like magic -- Obama out, Trump in, and the economy started growing.

But that's not happening now. Or, rather, yes, there is some improvement, but it's a subtle improvement that voters can ignore, and based on Trump's slipping approval, they seem to be ignoring it now. Reagan I and Trump I had big enough economic expansions that voters couldn't ignore it, and even when Reagan's 1984 opponent Walter Mondale tried to deny it, they rejected that denial as delusional.

(Mondale ran ads asking rhetorically, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" His suggested answer was "No," but the country answered "Hell to the yeah we're better off" and delivered Reagan every single state in 1984. Supposedly Mondale won his home state of Minnesota but there have been credible allegations that that state was stolen and Reagan just didn't challenge it because he won the other 49 and could afford to be generous.)

So I keep waiting for the Trump II turn. I keep hoping it will come in time for the midterms, but that seems like increasingly unlikely.

It doesn't help, of course, that Fed Chair Powell is determined to tank the economy, because he's mad that Trump is putting tariffs on the foreign imports so beloved of the Capital Class and wants to prove to the country that tariffs are bad. So he's doing what he can to harm the economy so that people think the problem was the tariffs.

Posted by: Ace at 01:23 PM




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1 Maybe they should consider resigning in the middle of the term.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 25, 2025 01:23 PM (ExV1e)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 25, 2025 01:24 PM (ExV1e)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)

4 349 (Warning: do NOT do this. Now I want to search for turkey fryer fails.)
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The "Porch Pirate fails" with the exploding packaging are good fun for a minute or two as well.
Posted by: Crusader at November 25, 2025 01:15 PM (TN0g+)

Only thing wrong with that is the packages don't spray hydrofluoric acid.

Posted by: Porch pirates must suffer at November 25, 2025 01:25 PM (TbWk/)

5 Voters to prove once again they're stupid and most shouldn't be trusted with the privilege of voting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)

6
Send the GOPeto Haiti and let the leadwr known as BBQ sort them out.

Now it's another food thread.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 25, 2025 01:25 PM (QVmho)

7 The Democrats shit all over the new beige rug, walked all over it and ground the shit into the carpet fibers and are now criticizing you for not cleaning the rug to pristine condition fast enough.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:26 PM (ssz2a)

8 Republican senators say the off-year elections in New Jersey, Virginia and other parts of the country on Nov. 4 served as a wake-up call and warn that President Trump and Republican leaders in Congress need to address voters' concerns about the slowing economy and persistently high prices.


And voting for the party that CAUSED THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE is a GRAND idea.......

We're too stupid to survive as a country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Willowed:

We saw this last week:

"SISU: The Road to Vengeance" - a fun, whip-smart roller coaster ride of an action movie.
You don't need to see the first one to enjoy it.
BONUS: This time around he kills tons of Commies/

"Keeper" - I had high hope for this as I like what Osgood Perkins has been doing lately. And higher hopes 45-50 minutes in, buuuuuuut then it failed on the expolanation and lost me, a drag to the end.


TV Show:

"Last Samarai Standing" - very fun version of Squid Game (kinda) set in old Japan. Great action, great hero, well-done bad guys. It's streaming on Netflix. Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 01:26 PM (iJfKG)

10 The republican party is adrift in a sewer of corruption and back biting. There's weak leadership at all levels.

Posted by: Jeff E at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (ZZTuE)

11 We had 50 resignations in 2018

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (E0p3T)

12 If the GOPe is worried, maybe they should start to pass some of the MAGA agenda to get voters back on board.... I typed that without laughing out loud and it was hard.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (xvV+O)

13 If you or your partner are bothered by a hairy enten, consult a dermatologist.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (wq6Zu)

14 When was the last time the midterms DIDN'T swing the opposite way of the previous general election?

Isn't it, like, de rigueur?

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (oraVG)

15 Mondale ran ads asking rhetorically, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"


I thought that was Reagan in 1980?

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (77rzZ)

16 GOP Worries About Midterms "Wipeout"

And other surf music.

Posted by: Profitable Ventures at November 25, 2025 01:28 PM (TbWk/)

17 "The numbers We are terrible," the lawmaker said.

FIFH.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 25, 2025 01:28 PM (3nLb4)

18 I don't think he tries hard enough. I think he has to make the case, in a major national campaign, that it is absolutely necessary for Trump's personal political fortunes that he doesn't have a Congress controlled by "lunatic left-wing Democrats" impeaching him every five minutes like he did from 2019-2020.
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What are you thinking, maybe something like a big, televised show, with various stars and conservative speakers, a "convention" if you will, in the summer of 2028?

IDK, might work.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:28 PM (T3zUV)

19 If the GOP allows the Donks to Pounce and Seize on the "high cost of everything" narrative without effectively pointing out that it was Obama and later Biden that caused it all to go to hell, they're worse than useless.

But we all know how this is going to end up.

Posted by: ballistic at November 25, 2025 01:28 PM (3BwY8)

20 Trump has been in office for 10 months.... If it's gonna be as bad as predicted for 2026, the Senate better end the filibuster and get as much passed as possible....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (VE6XX)

21 They like Trump, seeing him as a different kind of Republican who appeals to union hall Democrats, but they do not like other Republicans, and Trump has never been able to convince them to vote for other Republicans.

Other Republicans have never tried to convince them to vote for other Republicans.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (ExV1e)

22 The COVID Op wrecked a lot of things and then printing 6 trillion dollars and basically enshitifying everything for the four miserable years of The Biden Residency has left us in a very tenuous predicament.

Add to the fact that the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit and it's a small miracle that Trump has had any success.

Our main problem is the GOP and I don't know how to fix that glitch.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (XV/Pl)

23 They argue Democrats' failure to come up with effective solutions to rein in health care costs and the rising power of far-left Democratic candidates gives them a chance to cling onto power in Washington.


"The Democrats crammed the ACA down America's throat. They baked in the cake a tax subsidy expiration that would cause the cost of healthcare to SKYROCKET without TAXPAYER FUNDED policies. Not cheap healthcare. Not even GOOD healthcare. TAXPAYER FUNDED. Referred to by Democrats as "free healthcare." Stop putting your faith and your vote into snake oil salesmen that fail you every time."

Seems a simple campaign to have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

24 You know who hates the Donks? Senator Reuben Gallego (D-AZ).

https://is.gd/JrvGO3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

25 Think I'll go with premade mashed potatoes from the deli and hope nobody notices.

Posted by: wth at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (v0R5T)

26 Maybe a brewing civil war will lighten the mood? At least take everyone's minds off the midterms and inflation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (NwnyJ)

27 To further Ace's point, a local elected law enforcement officer in a county won by Trump in 2024 signed up for a program with ICE to assist ICE by informing ICE of illegals in custody who were charged with crimes (I'm simplifying but this is the idea). It became a prime issue in the 2025 municipal elections. The issue actually polled well with people, but Republicans up and down the ballot got wiped out. You would think that this would have encouraged Trump voters to come out to the polls and HELP THE GODDAMNED PRESIDENT CARRY OUT HIS PRIMARY POLICY GUARANTEE. But no, they voted a year ago and were satisfied to retreat to the cocoon of college football or whatever.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (ssz2a)

28 13 If you or your partner are bothered by a hairy enten, consult a dermatologist.
Posted by: Public Service Announcement at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (wq6Zu)

Forestry service. Or a logging company.

Posted by: Shave that treebeard at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

29 Also Thom Tillis is a faggot and you should take everything he suggests and do literally the opposite.

Posted by: ballistic at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (3BwY8)

30 The economy has "slowed" from 1.7% GDP growth to over 4% GDP growth.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (xvV+O)

31 Rents falling. Inflation keeps coming in below wage gains. Hell, home prices seem to be falling in certain places.

And GDP is growing at 4% or more.

While we deport shit tons of people, so many that we're actually going to lose population as a whole. (Mass deportation is deflationary...just like mass importation of a population is inflationary)

But, oh no...beef prices, driven by admin decisions 3 years ago to limit beef supplies. Panic, and feed the panic.

The economy is actually in good shape, but people want outright deflation. Which I would be fine with. But Trump says the goal is 1% inflation which, combined with wage growth, will be very healthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

32 12 If the GOPe is worried, maybe they should start to pass some of the MAGA agenda to get voters back on board.... I typed that without laughing out loud and it was hard.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (xvV+O)

Until Congress accomplishes it primary Job, of regular order spending bills... none of the congress critters in office should retain office.

Why rehire ya if you can't do the damn job?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (mP0Kj)

33 Round em up
Head em out
Rawhide...
Trump should go full on crazy and just use the military to lock everyone up . The Dems ignore the law anyway so Fug Em.Jusr go through every sitting Dems record. If they broke the law
Lock Em Up.
We don't need no steenking judges!!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (VPPG8)

34 The wheels are closing in
The walls are coming off

Posted by: And the fat lady is circling the drain! at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (wq6Zu)

35 Mondale ran ads asking rhetorically, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"


I thought that was Reagan in 1980?
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:27 PM (77rzZ)



If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

36
Seems a simple campaign to have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

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You must be new to this whole politics thing.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (ssz2a)

37 It's not only the rate vs time value. But we are all under a giant deficit due to the higher costs in the past. So yeah, if the rate was zero, then all the costs would still be higher. But even if there was a major depression and all the costs nose dived back to 2010 levels, we still aren't getting back our sunk overpaid costs. Integrate the curve.

I was in a company-wide meeting with a high up exec and they had the typical stupid question and answer session after all the "GO TEAM" part. A guy asked about wage increases in light of the cost of living going up. And that mfer, in a room full of engineers, said well the rates are slowing down so that won't be needed.

You sob, do you even math? Integrate that curve and then come back to me.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (3uBP9)

38 Thom Tillis? He's the source? Seriously? I wouldn't wipe my ass with anything he says. My asshole deserves much better.

This is 99% leftwing ops trying to demoralize us and push a few more GOP drip-dicks out of Congress. As I have said, I do have my worries about getting our people to the polls.

"Trump's sinking approval rating" -- bullshit, he's actually up a few points in the latest polls. Whenever you hear "Trump's sinking approval rating," you should guard your wallet. His rating has been "sinking" for so long he should be at zero by now.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

39 30 The economy has "slowed" from 1.7% GDP growth to over 4% GDP growth.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (xvV+O)

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The problem is that the media keeps pumping out stories about how the economy isn't good because we didn't add enough jobs to keep up with population growth (while we're actually losing population because deportations are so aggressive and multi-faceted).

So...people buy into it. People who shouldn't buy into it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

40 The GOP isn't what Trump Voters voted for. We voted for Trump. The GOP gave us Mitt Romney. The GOP gave us Islam bombing our country and George Bush mumbling about Islam being a religion of peace.

Trump gave us hope, and an America-First focus. Trump gave us a willingness to fight, and a willingness to offend (even though white church ladies collapsed to their fainting couches). Trump gave us a hard lean to smaller government.

If the GOP truly wants to win in 2026 (and 202, maybe they could watch some "game film" and see how the winning gets done.

Posted by: Crusader at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (TN0g+)

41 At this point the Democrat battle plan seems to be firing off a stream of lies like an A-10 gun.

Posted by: MartynWW at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (+1tao)

42 If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

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Too much work.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (DRSnL)

43 There's some guy who does funny engineering videos who has these very specially designed porch pirate traps that coat them in sticky glitter and skunk stink, then flashes red and blue lights while yelling about the police. It also uploads video of the shamed porch pirates and alerts him on where to retrieve the trap.

The videos are pretty good.

Posted by: Locarno at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (eOcfv)

44
You must be new to this whole politics thing.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (ssz2a)



Yes. Where bludgeoning people with facts and the truth never works.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

45 If the GOP truly wants to win in 2026 (and 202, maybe they could watch some "game film" and see how the winning gets done.

Posted by: Crusader at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (TN0g+)
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Will you have time to watch "game film" when the Media is television Trump's third impeachment proceedings next year?

Get your head in the fucking game.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (ssz2a)

46 As I keep saying, we can't have prices fall without actual deflation, which the Fed would never allow to happen, because the downsides of deflation are too high.

I grocery shop. Other than beef, prices have been quietly and steadily falling for the last couple of months.

As for the supposed downsides of deflation, those are lies as big as the lie that all tariffs are evil. Please reexamine the issue with fresh eyes.

Romney's 47% dependency rate was wrong because it did not so much as attempt to account for the massive graft that DOGE has brought to light.

Posted by: biteme at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (xWS9V)

47 HELP THE GODDAMNED PRESIDENT CARRY OUT HIS PRIMARY POLICY GUARANTEE. But no, they voted a year ago and were satisfied to retreat to the cocoon of college football or whatever.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:29 PM (ssz2a)

With the fairly low turnout for the Calif Prop 50 crap, there were enough Repub and Conservative voters to vote it down... if they had bothered to fill in the Mail in Ballot they were all sent.

That is, if the count was even valid, which I have my doubts about.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (mP0Kj)

48 Ok, I'm just gonna toss this out there.

If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?

Posted by: Don't shoot me at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (wq6Zu)

49 in general the govt class are unified in waiting out PDJT. this is the problem.

so in states like PA, we are improving in a LOT of areas (energy is a big one) but gas prices remain high due to our ridiculous gas tax (tied to inflation so it keeps going up). which informs a lot of other prices here. PLUS our insurance costs are sky high due to having quite a lot of illegales driving around drunk still.

this is a civil war - we are in it. private folks vs the govt class. they are fighting us, tooth and nail. they won't stop.

in the end, either we collapse or we break up. I know PDJT was trying to thread the needle and I hope to hell he succeeds but it's a low percentage play.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (emBoF)

50 The wipeout was built in to the system. Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Eromero at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (Bg+2b)

51
One Republican senator who attended a recent GOP conference meeting at the National Republican Senatorial Committee headquarters said concerns about the approaching election year are "high."
"The numbers are terrible," the lawmaker said. "Not necessarily for any individual incumbent senator, although some of them aren't very good. But you saw what happened a couple weeks ago [on Nov. 4]: Republicans didn't win anything anywhere."


Maybe all y'all slack jawed grifting pieces of shit should, oh, do your fucking job and there wouldn't be an issue.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (QVmho)

52 There's some guy who does funny engineering videos who has these very specially designed porch pirate traps that coat them in sticky glitter and skunk stink, then flashes red and blue lights while yelling about the police. It also uploads video of the shamed porch pirates and alerts him on where to retrieve the trap.

The videos are pretty good.
Posted by: Locarno at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (eOcfv)



He was doing similar things to those robbing packages from cars in San Francisco and the police threatened to arrest him for it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

53 If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?


not unless requested!!! I told everyone to just bring booze

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (emBoF)

54 If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......
Posted by: Sponge

I'll just attribute that snark to the fact that you're by yourself and not sleeping well, and leave it at that.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (77rzZ)

55 The Dems are just bubbling over with robust policy proposal. Far too numerous to list here.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (GPa4z)

56
Yes. Where bludgeoning people with facts and the truth never works.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)
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Republicans in my county just got wiped out in a municipal election in which people were angry at the President and Republicans because the Democrats shut the government down and didn't vote to fund SNAP.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (ssz2a)

57 Riddle me this. What kind of illogic tells you the way you fix the economy is to put Democrats in charge of the House? Lololol you know the people who tanked the economy for the last four years, gave your jobs to illegal immigrants, gave billions to foreign countries and their benefactors, then fired you for not taking the Covid shot. All while they corrupted the entire government and justice system to go after their enemies list.

Those Democrats? Yeah that will change things.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (jlI90)

58 I assume that getting off their ass and doing something has been considered and rejected.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (6t8M3)

59 The GOP is pure dogshit. Be prepared to be underwhelmed, fleeced, anally raped without a reach around and told they will lower your "taxes" while spending like Hunter Biden in a crackhouse up, during and after the mid-terms.

Posted by: The federal government is a swindle, a swindle at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (R/m4+)

60 46 I grocery shop. Other than beef, prices have been quietly and steadily falling for the last couple of months.

As for the supposed downsides of deflation, those are lies as big as the lie that all tariffs are evil. Please reexamine the issue with fresh eyes.

Romney's 47% dependency rate was wrong because it did not so much as attempt to account for the massive graft that DOGE has brought to light.

Posted by: biteme at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (xWS9V)

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Beef, like egg prices in the final months of Biden's administration, were about Ag policy. Killing hundreds of millions of chickens drove up egg prices.

Limiting beef herds 3 years ago is driving up beef prices today.

And deflation fears stem from the Great Depression. Economists have been trained to do the opposite of everything that happened in the Great Depression from a monetary policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

61 >>> There's some guy who does funny engineering videos who has these very specially designed porch pirate traps that coat them in sticky glitter and skunk stink, then flashes red and blue lights while yelling about the police. It also uploads video of the shamed porch pirates and alerts him on where to retrieve the trap.

The videos are pretty good.
Posted by: Locarno at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (eOcfv)



Those are real, but they were obviously used as input to train all the ai slop videos that are legion now.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (3uBP9)

62 Thom Tillis is one person I would NOT listen to… he wants the GOP and Trump to fail. He’s retiring… forget him

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (xT8gx)

63 All pundits, all analysts, all economists, all politicians and all media talking heads are absolutely full of steaming shit. No one has made an accurate prediction in decades. No one know what the fuck they're talking about.

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (oraVG)

64 43 There's some guy who does funny engineering videos who has these very specially designed porch pirate traps that coat them in sticky glitter and skunk stink, then flashes red and blue lights while yelling about the police. It also uploads video of the shamed porch pirates and alerts him on where to retrieve the trap.

The videos are pretty good.
Posted by: Locarno at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM

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That's Mark Rober.

Posted by: He was an engineer at NASA at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (wq6Zu)

65
Republicans in my county just got wiped out in a municipal election in which people were angry at the President and Republicans because the Democrats shut the government down and didn't vote to fund SNAP.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 25, 2025 01:34 PM (ssz2a)



Stupid is a stupid does, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

66 We need voter ID in every state, in every election.

Posted by: iamnotthekenyaninterloper at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (y9skt)

67 I wish the GOP wanted to win, and while I'm indulging in fantasy, I also wish they wanted to represent and support the interests of the American people.

Posted by: Emmie at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (FMtrg)

68 It doesn't help, of course, that Fed Chair Powell is determined to tank the economy, because he's mad that Trump is putting tariffs on the foreign imports so beloved of the Capital Class and wants to prove to the country that tariffs are bad. So he's doing what he can to harm the economy so that people think the problem was the tariffs.
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This can't be emphasized enough.

Powell is been bad-mouthing the economy and lying.
He's been promising and swearing inflation from tariffs will show up "soon" for 10 months now as his monthly excuse to not lower rates.

That's why they are so desperate to hold the Fed; can't afford Powell and Ms. Fraud out--he intends to stall and choke the economy as long as he can to deliver the House to the Dems.
Without those two cronies, the Fed cuts rates.
Massive amounts of capital currently sidelined as a risk-hedge will flood into the market.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (T3zUV)

69 The administration is pushing Congress too hard. Oh you poor babies. What have you done since the BBB because it’s not your jobs.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (jlI90)

70 If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?
Posted by: Don't shoot me

If you bring a lot of it, absolutely. I would welcome you with open arms.

I love cole slaw.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (77rzZ)

71 It doesn't help, of course, that Fed Chair Powell is determined to tank the economy...

- Or that the judiciary is determined to stall everything Trump does.
- Or that the states are both openly defying him and taking steps to counter any good he does.
- Or that Congress is doing nothing to codify the work he's doing.

But the people don't see/understand that so they'll do the exact wrong thing in response. They'll suffer mightily for it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 25, 2025 01:36 PM (ExV1e)

72 Romney's 47% dependency rate was wrong because it did not so much as attempt to account for the massive graft that DOGE has brought to light.

Shit. Sorry for the non sequitur. My point was that we have artificially inflated prices across the board because public assistance programs subsidize indirectly through fucking idiots who lack any damned understanding of value.

Think snacks/sodas because of SNAP and tuition because of subsidized student loans.

It is well past time to scrape these fucking parasites off.

Posted by: biteme at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (xWS9V)

73 I don't know if going on TV and telling people that they are doing OK, when they are not , or don't feel they are not would help. I was told this story once, by a real estate agent: buyer did an inspection, and got spooked by something in the report. Now, the sellers lived with that "issue" for decades and it did not cause them any problems. If they would have insisted that there is no problem to the buyer, there would not have been a sale. So the seller fixed whatever spooked the buyer, the sale then went through.

Posted by: runner at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (g47mK)

74 A new report, from the Senate Commerce Committee, says the Biden administration forced airports to house illegal immigrants, posing a serious safety risk to airports and American travelers.

That report alleges the Biden administration directed several government departments, including the Department of Transportation (DOT), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), and the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) to house migrants in airports.

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (RHGPo)

75 72 Think snacks/sodas because of SNAP and tuition because of subsidized student loans.

It is well past time to scrape these fucking parasites off.

Posted by: biteme at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (xWS9V)

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Saw a headline that the Trump admin is forcing everyone on SNAP to reapply.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

76 Here’s an idea. How about you pass an election security package?

Posted by: Vengeance at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (jlI90)

77 Powell is out in May

hopefully that isn't too late to turn things around

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (emBoF)

78 Worried about the midterms, GOP? Pass some bills and arrest some people and keep bringing costs down. Problem solved.

Shoe's new video explains 100% for both the GOP and the dems what issues they need to focus on to win. (Hint: economy and making America
Affordable again) And she's a Bernie bro socialist with mommy brain fog who is specializing lately in dating trash fails content. If she gets it, why can't the GOP?!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gli4Ox4i54I

Dems are possibly finally realizing they need to appeal to the average Joe Again, instead of calling him a Nazi. GOP still finds average Joes icky. I do might have high hopes the GOP will get a clue before next year to dance with the MAGA average Joe that brung them.


Posted by: LizLem at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (gWBY1)

79 "The latest DDHQ average shows Democrats beating Republicans 46.8 percent to 41.4 percent on the generic ballot."

There's the tell! That the Democraps are only 5 points ahead of the GOP at this point -- after months of non-stop doomsaying -- is an encouraging sign, not a depressing one. The gap is usually close to twice that.

As I said above, this is 99% leftwing ops. Don't fall for it, my brothers and sisters!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

80 Set up fake expectations to justify the later election fraud. Oldest trick in the book.

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (oraVG)

81 My advice to Republican "lawmakers" is: stop sucking and jerking each other, and DO YOUR JOBS.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (s0JqF)

82 It'd be good if Congress codified Trump's reforms, and approved his nominees. If they don't why would people vote for same-old same-old?

Posted by: Iblis at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (9221z)

83 >>>Maybe Trump has to give a national address -- he really should give some of these from time to time -- to readjust public's expectations about prices actually falling.

Maybe some DOGE staff could do it.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (RuTUS)

84 And deflation fears stem from the Great Depression. Economists have been trained to do the opposite of everything that happened in the Great Depression from a monetary policy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

Deflation is an existential threat to the Banking Industry, and thus will NEVER happen, when it is the Banks who control the Fed Res Board...

You know, the folks who control inflation?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (mP0Kj)

85 Nobody watches TV anymore.

Posted by: It's dead, Jim. at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (wq6Zu)

86 Telling people that there is no issues "up here" , where there are issues "down here" will only piss people off. It does not help if eggs and veggies are cheap...if you are forced to live in mama's house because you can't afford to buy your own.

Posted by: runner at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (g47mK)

87 Saw a headline that the Trump admin is forcing everyone on SNAP to reapply.


this is true

actually a friend of mine posted the new application form - she is PISSED

she's also morbidly obese. her "disability" is not being able to walk good bc she weighs 300 pounds. she "failed" her gastric bypass.

anyway I loved the form! it was perfection. really good stuff.

the admin is doing everything it can, really. it's falling down on the visa thing, but if we keep the pressure on there they should eventually "get it."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (emBoF)

88 Republican senators say the off-year elections in New Jersey, Virginia and other parts of the country on Nov. 4 served as a wake-up call and warn that President Trump and Republican leaders in Congress need to address voters' concerns about the slowing economy and persistently high prices.
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Why do I feel that those same Republican senators would have dismissed any wins and still focused on the losses?
Because their intent is to amplify and give weight to Democrat attacks?

What are their proposals--currently pending in the Senate--that these Republicans have put into bills?

Sure sound like a lot of "we're going to blame Trump no matter what" to me.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (T3zUV)

89 >>>For you Youngs

haha!

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (RuTUS)

90 May is toooooo late to get rid of Powell!!

Posted by: runner at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (g47mK)

91 Congress might be able to change that if they, you know, did something for a change.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (8avO+)

92 84 Deflation is an existential threat to the Banking Industry, and thus will NEVER happen, when it is the Banks who control the Fed Res Board...

You know, the folks who control inflation?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (mP0Kj)

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Implementing large tariffs and deporting millions of people can affect inflation rates as much as the Fed can. Inflation goes down since both are deflationary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

93 I enjoy Trump. I don’t like the Republicans and I especially dislike with the RINOs in the Senate. They could have enacted Trump’s agenda andthe public would be happier.

Posted by: High tech at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (37cEZ)

94
As I said above, this is 99% leftwing ops. Don't fall for it, my brothers and sisters!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)



We're mostly not the ones you need to worry about.

It's the idiots that just stayed home because their candidate wasn't PERFECT, so they sat back and watched as a CIA agent and an AG who wants to murder the his opponent and their children got elected in a landslide.

We truly are the F*CKING STUPID party.

That was just epic retarded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

95 90 May is toooooo late to get rid of Powell!!

yeah I agree but I don't see how to get rid of that asshat

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (emBoF)

96 Telling people that there is no issues "up here"


My issues are up here.
-- Sydney Sweeney

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (77rzZ)

97 The assumption people have continues to be that prices should fall back to what they had been. As I keep saying, we can't have prices fall without actual deflation, which the Fed would never allow to happen, because the downsides of deflation are too high. (People stop investing because their money is already appreciating in value if they just hoard it under the bed.)
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Thank you. That was clearly put. I do not see why most people just don't understand it. I got it in high school. Admittedly, that was back when we used wampum, but the principle holds.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (s0JqF)

98 If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?

Yes, but only if it's KFC cole slaw.

All other cole slaw tastes like Harambe's ass.

Posted by: Zombie Steve Irwin at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (R/m4+)

99 They argue Democrats' failure to come up with effective solutions to rein in health care costs and the rising power of far-left Democratic candidates gives them a chance to cling onto power in Washington.

This reminds me a bit about the situations with the Tories in the UK. The people there were tired of immigration and elected the tories to stop it.

When the tories refused to they turned around and voted for labor.

Now, the Republicans weren't elected specifically to deal with healthcare costs but...they haven't done much about it either.

And there are simple, simple reforms that could be done. Require proof of citizenship to get EMTALA coverage. Stop any federal funds for states that don't comply with ICE investigations - including of those on their welfare/free healthcare giveouts, and any states that refuse see their federal dollars shared instead with the other states. And on and on...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (sKqQm)

100 Peter St. Onge says the Fed is fanning inflation by ending QT and will spring the trap on Rs by acquiescing to their demands that rates be reduced.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (GPa4z)

101 >>>It doesn't help, of course, that Fed Chair Powell is determined to tank the economy,

I love that people are both screaming for deflation and insisting on increasing the money availability. Easy interest rates a) cause a heat up of the business cycle b) ramp up inflation, c) take between 4 and six months to be felt, and D) wind up running through the big banks, then the big borrowers (hedge funds and the like) before it trickles down to the guys who want to finance a used car or a home. Rates are not a magic wand, they only affect the price of borrowing money and creating debt.

The calls I hear now, which I agree with, is that homes are too pricey for kids to start families or families to move out of the "starter home" but dropping the rate is going to first benefit the big borrowers who can get lower rates due to their size and will outbid Timmy and Suzy Newlywed every time, and they still will wind up paying the cost of the mortgage and the profit the leasing company demands to make up the dividends to the investors.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (rbvCR)

102 87
this is true

actually a friend of mine posted the new application form - she is PISSED

she's also morbidly obese. her "disability" is not being able to walk good bc she weighs 300 pounds. she "failed" her gastric bypass.

anyway I loved the form! it was perfection. really good stuff.

the admin is doing everything it can, really. it's falling down on the visa thing, but if we keep the pressure on there they should eventually "get it."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (emB

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We went from spending about $4 billion a year on SNAP in 2020 to about $8 billion a year in 2024.

Also...mass immigration happened.

What if Trump gets it back down to $3 billion or so...? Not much in the grand scheme of the fed budget but still...killing incentives to graft, man. It's a good thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

103 If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)


Just ask!

Posted by: Jeeves at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (Ltmlv)

104 Most people may not realize what Trump realizes - best way to bring inflation and general costs down is to negotiate peace in the Ukraine, and peace in the Middle East. Do that and oil prices will fall dramatically, as will gasoline prices, as will inflation rates, as will Interest rates. And it will happen fairly quickly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8)

105 I agree with Ace on the need for Trump to address the nation about what he is doing to address these major concerns. Unlike a Democrat, Trump can't count on the media to carry the message for him. It isn't enough to just do good stuff, he needs to personally communicate what he is doing, for what purpose, and the positive results and impact on people's lives. Especially when the effects aren't immediate. It's easy to spend a couple trillion dollars of debt into the economy or hand out stimulus checks and people can see it. It's harder when you are bringing jobs back via tariffs and foreign investment, because that takes time.

And finally--did anyone ask him to end 8 wars, or whatever he's doing? I mean it's good and all, but has he gotten obsessed with winning the Nobel Peace Prize? He was elected to be America First. If he wants people to feel like negotiating peace deals around the world is making good on that promise, he needs to say it directly to the American pubiic, over and over again. But...I don't think they will be buying it. Getting us out of Biden's Ukraine mess is important, but getting the economy back on track to overcome Biden's inflation is a bigger deal to people

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (vSl8l)

106 They get rid of the Hare Krishnas only to replace them with criminally trespassing aliens.

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (RHGPo)

107 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Could happen. I forgot I could do that.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (E0p3T)

108 94
As I said above, this is 99% leftwing ops. Don't fall for it, my brothers and sisters!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

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I viddied it, my brothers. I viddied it with my gulliver, so says your Humble Narrator.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

109 I enjoy Trump. I don’t like the Republicans and I especially dislike with the RINOs in the Senate. They could have enacted Trump’s agenda andthe public would be happier.

A pattern we've been seeing is with no Trump on the ballot Rs do much worse. Why? Because most GOP officials aren't trying to implement Trump's agenda.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (sKqQm)

110 I don't think he tries hard enough...

Trump works plenty hard. It's just most GOP politicians aren't trustworthy or aggressive enough in implementing what the base wants, and pitching it to moderates.

When you find the rare exception (DeSantis), he crushes it.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (JCZqz)

111 I can't trust any of this Ace. Sorry, and I'm not bitching about your posting it. All there is, but it's unreliable by its' nature.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (PCK5/)

112 OT- who is responsible for fetching the turkey for the TG day pardon? Can you put this on your resume? 😉 " i received the turkey and stood by while it was pardoned"

Video. Quite the talkative turkey

https://tinyurl.com/466dsyfy

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (Nx5jP)

113 >>> If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?

Coleslaw AND a shareable beverage or dessert? It probably depends on the size of your group and how picky they are.

Posted by: LizLem at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (gWBY1)

114 It would be great if they are this worried that they would try to, I don't know, pass some of Trump's EO into law.

The only political body more useless than these jackholes is the Sentate GOP.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (xaNfJ)

115 As I said above, this is 99% leftwing ops. Don't fall for it, my brothers and sisters!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)


We're mostly not the ones you need to worry about.

It's the idiots that just stayed home because their candidate wasn't PERFECT, so they sat back and watched as a CIA agent and an AG who wants to murder the his opponent and their children got elected in a landslide.

We truly are the F*CKING STUPID party.

That was just epic retarded.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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Yes and no. I think there's too much demoralized talk even here, and the perfect being the enemy of the good. But yea, this is all about turnout. We can't win elections if significant percentages of our people don't get off their fucking asses and vote.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (iFTx/)

116 We went from spending about $4 billion a year on SNAP in 2020 to about $8 billion a year in 2024.

Also...mass immigration happened.


68% of SNAP goes to non-citizens.

SO...if you 0 out the non-citizens you are back to what it was pre-Biden.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

117 I don't think people are going by addresses to the nation. They are going by the job market and what they can afford.

Posted by: runner at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)

118 That report alleges the Biden administration directed several government departments, including the Department of Transportation (DOT), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), and the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) to house migrants in airports.
Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 01:37 PM (RHGPo)

Uh... there were LOCAL news reports at the time which talked about this... lots of pictures.

Hell, they even had special lines set up for those who did not have US IDs. Citizens were supposed to show their Real ID... Illegals just showed whatevah.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (mP0Kj)

119 94
As I said above, this is 99% leftwing ops. Don't fall for it, my brothers and sisters!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)


We're mostly not the ones you need to worry about.

It's the idiots that just stayed home because their candidate wasn't PERFECT, so they sat back and watched as a CIA agent and an AG who wants to murder the his opponent and their children got elected in a landslide.

We truly are the F*CKING STUPID party.

That was just epic retarded.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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I didn't vote in my schoolboard elections, which were "nonpartisan". I couldn't figure out who was bad, and who was worse. Tried calling the local GOP and some state "conservative" organizations. Never got an answer.

We really are bad at this.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)

120 I am skipping over such threads for at least the next several months because a) it is too early, b) House and Senate races involve specific candidates and we don't know who those will be, c) external events occur that are outside of politics and ops shit.

Polling, in particular, is so unreliable nowadays that you might as well get a Ouija board. Same goes with pundit opinions.

We shall simply have to wait and see what the future holds for us.

Posted by: whig at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (WDjG6)

121 As much as I like Trump, I have to admit that I don’t think Trump really cares about the GOP fortunes either. Unfortunately.

Everything just seems very personal and that just doesn’t translate well to a national race where Trump‘s not on the ballot

I guarantee you if the GOP does get wiped out he’ll have some tweet about how they didn’t support him sufficiently and that’s why it happened

There’s some low hanging fruit Trump could address in a very MAGA on big concerns like housing affordability. I also think the tariff stuff needs to be more laser focused, and not across the board.

Posted by: Maroon at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (2eayv)

122 >> (People stop investing because their money is already appreciating in value if they just hoard it under the bed.)

I have to protest this statement. People no longer store gold under their beds.

The problems with deflation are
- asset prices drop (and that pisses off the upper class)
- debtors suffer (and that pisses off anyone with a mortgage)
- wages don't drop (wages are sticky. high wages is bad for business)
and mostly,
- gov does not get its "vig" on printing new money to replaces deflated dollars. In fact, gov. is the biggest debtor so they suffer the most. Congress might have to cut back on sex slave junkets.

The only people deflation helps are savers. Fuck savers, this is America and our economy is built on debt.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (kIamG)

123 I think you should all have faith in the GOP. They have changed, swearsies. The evidence of the their inaction is Chinese bot disinformation.

Is "Reset McConnell" still a Senator? I have blocked it out.

Posted by: connected and litigious at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (s9EN2)

124 GOP Worries About Midterms "Wipeout"

That is to say, can we successfully create the wipeout without giving away the game? Can we keep Trump from endorsing enough of us?

Posted by: The GOPe at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (ittVa)

125 Maybe voters think prices should come down because Trump told them he would do that during the campaign. Every time he said it I would facepalm.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (CNl8/)

126 112 OT- who is responsible for fetching the turkey for the TG day pardon? Can you put this on your resume? 😉 " i received the turkey and stood by while it was pardoned"

Video. Quite the talkative turkey

https://tinyurl.com/466dsyfy

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2025 01:43 PM (Nx5jP)

Bag or two of chips n' dip.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (PCK5/)

127 Fucking GOP.
Content to sit under the Thanksgiving table like dogs, waiting for the grifter crumbs to fall off the table where the dems feast.
And we're outside the frosty window looking in, starving and cold.

Posted by: UncleJefe at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (gAuAm)

128 All the spots taken for the circular firing squad?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (FPBvm)

129 St Paul, MN Ice protest scrolled on TV at restaurant I'm at. Police shot a tear cas canister into crowd. Another diner yelled out, "Hit em again!" Heh.

Posted by: scampydog at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (iyrM8)

130 A politician called Adolf Hitler is set to win a local election in his home country, but claimed his father had no idea about the Nazi leader’s significance when he named his son.

Adolf Hitler Uunona, 59, is poised to win a second local election in the southwest African country of Namibia on Nov. 26, holding his seat in the north of the country after previously receiving 85% of the vote in 2020.

The member of the left-wing Swapo party previously spoke about his infamous name after coming to global attention following his win in the Ompundja constituency.

His father “probably didn’t understand what Adolf Hitler stood for. As a child, I saw it as a totally normal name,” the politician told German newspaper Bild in 2020.

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (RHGPo)

131 103 If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Just ask!
Posted by: Jeeves at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (Ltmlv)

; )

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (RuTUS)

132 "“I do not know if the people of the United States would vote for superior men if they ran for office, but there can be no doubt that such men do not run.” - Alexis de Tocqueville.

A sweeping statement that is not true in every case, but true often enough for it to be a constant source of annoyance and danger under a democratic form of government

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (mADJX)

133 109 I enjoy Trump. I don’t like the Republicans and I especially dislike with the RINOs in the Senate. They could have enacted Trump’s agenda andthe public would be happier.

A pattern we've been seeing is with no Trump on the ballot Rs do much worse. Why? Because most GOP officials aren't trying to implement Trump's agenda.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (sKqQm)

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Trump, like Obama before him, attracts low-propensity voters.

Democrats regularly did terribly with Obama as president in midterms because low-propensity voters simply don't turn out for midterms at the same level as high-propensity voters.

We essentially traded winning the presidency for winning midterms.

Changing low-propensity voters into high-propensity voters is a large issue because the behavior is mostly tied to education levels and has been for a long time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

134 103 If only there was this vast place of knowledge that could be searched in an instant to find answers to questions.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Just ask!
Posted by: Jeeves at November 25, 2025 01:42 PM (Ltmlv)
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Surely, given the sig, that should be "Just ask, sir."

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:46 PM (s0JqF)

135 You would think somebody who made their name as a builder would be out there with a plan to increase the supply of housing. But nope.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 25, 2025 01:46 PM (CNl8/)

136 I've been saying for a while that one of the biggest determinants of the 2026 election will be the state of the economy next summer.

That should be Trump's focus.

He should also looks for high profiles fights to launch around that time as a fall back. "The economy hasn't fully recovered because the Dems are stopping us from taking free healthcare from illegals" or something like that.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:46 PM (sKqQm)

137 "I don't think he tries hard enough. I think he has to make the case, in a major national campaign, that it is absolutely necessary for Trump's personal political fortunes that he doesn't have a Congress controlled by "lunatic left-wing Democrats" impeaching him every five minutes like he did from 2019-2020."

This is why Trump is planning a Republican Convention in 2026 to make the case before the midterms.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 01:46 PM (0CU3H)

138 Peter St. Onge says the Fed is fanning inflation by ending QT and will spring the trap on Rs by acquiescing to their demands that rates be reduced.
Posted by: Oglebay at November 25, 2025 01:41 PM (GPa4z)


I am told that the Fed is now getting those mortgage backed equities off of their balance sheet, which is acting much in the same way as QT.

but inflation is expansion of the money supply, not pausing the contraction of it, which is what QT is

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (rbvCR)

139 I didn't vote in my schoolboard elections, which were "nonpartisan". I couldn't figure out who was bad, and who was worse. Tried calling the local GOP and some state "conservative" organizations. Never got an answer.

We really are bad at this.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)



They don't reach out. Only the well funded state and national candidates send out mailers and give you their supposed stance. There's no source to go find anything. Those that put out signs usually don't even put their party affiliation on the sign anymore. I view these people as democrats ashamed of their party and not worthy of my time to actually look them up.

elections in America, especially local ones, are clusterf*cks of epic proportions. Until our side starts actually taking them seriously at ALL levels, we're doomed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

140 A politician called Adolf Hitler is set to win a local election in his home country, but claimed his father had no idea about the Nazi leader’s significance when he named his son.

Adolf Hitler Uunona, 59, is poised to win a second local election in the southwest African country of Namibia on Nov. 26, holding his seat in the north of the country after previously receiving 85% of the vote in 2020.

The member of the left-wing Swapo party previously spoke about his infamous name after coming to global attention following his win in the Ompundja constituency.

His father “probably didn’t understand what Adolf Hitler stood for. As a child, I saw it as a totally normal name,” the politician told German newspaper Bild in 2020.
Posted by: SMOD

Fun fact: The first colonial governor of German Southwest Africa was Hermann Goebells' father.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

141 18 I don't think he tries hard enough. I think he has to make the case, in a major national campaign, that it is absolutely necessary for Trump's personal political fortunes that he doesn't have a Congress controlled by "lunatic left-wing Democrats" impeaching him every five minutes like he did from 2019-2020.
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What are you thinking, maybe something like a big, televised show, with various stars and conservative speakers, a "convention" if you will, in the summer of 2028?

IDK, might work.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:28 PM (T3zUV)

Yeah, what this guy said.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (0CU3H)

142 Ok, I'm just gonna toss this out there.

If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?
Posted by: Don't shoot me at November 25, 2025 01:33 PM (wq6Zu)


Bring a bottle of bourbon. Four Roses Small Batch is under $40, their Single Barrel is usually under or right around $50. Can't go wrong with either.

Posted by: Doof at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (Ltmlv)

143 Housing prices are falling! Especially in places where homeowners insurance premiums are skyrocketing

Posted by: Oglebay at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (GPa4z)

144 So, Adolf Hitler is a member of the left-wing South West Africa People's Organisation (SWAPO) party

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (RHGPo)

145 All you have to do is look at the streamers on twitch to know that Trump is losing the mojo. Some of the biggest channels that carried his water during the election are either silent or critical of him now.

Specifically I saw a video "If you have a job now, keep it. Nobody is getting hired."

I gotta say that my account balances haven't gone up. Sure my investment portfolio has, but my free cash is sitting at or even slightly below where it was when Trump took office. I'm not blue collar, both my wife and I are 6-figure earners with no kids. Just maintaining the same lifestyle as we previously had.

But anyone who says they're pissed at Trump for prices not coming DOWN doesn't know how inflation (and deflation) works. If prices were dropping that would indicate something REALLY bad going on... and we might be getting there. All of those make believe announcements of foreign investment aren't going to show up in peoples' paychecks any year soon....

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (WYStd)

146 Will a 26 convention get the media coverage needed?

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 01:48 PM (PCK5/)

147 They like Trump, seeing him as a different kind of Republican who appeals to union hall Democrats, but they do not like other Republicans, and Trump has never been able to convince them to vote for other Republicans.

I don't think he tries hard enough. I think he has to make the case, in a major national campaign, that it is absolutely necessary for Trump's personal political fortunes that he doesn't have a Congress controlled by "lunatic left-wing Democrats" impeaching him every five minutes like he did from 2019-2020.

Posted by: Ace at 01:23 PM

While this is true, I'm betting that Trump doesn't want to campaign for people what will backstab him.... and that seems to be what the political animals in the Republican party want to do.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 25, 2025 01:48 PM (N1DT3)

148 Changing low-propensity voters into high-propensity voters is a large issue because the behavior is mostly tied to education levels and has been for a long time.

I think that can be at least partially addressed though. Give people an immediate and obvious cash benefit for voting R.

Trump's "tariff giveback" for example. Try to get it passed in the fall of '26 or have it publicly and closely fail. Want the money? Vote R.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:48 PM (sKqQm)

149 As mad as I get at GOP leadership, I don’t really buy into the narrative that people are not voting Republican because they aren’t conservative enough

I’ve just never heard a real world example where some ultra conservative said they decided not to vote at all because they wanted to teach Republicans and lesson and put the Democrats in power

Posted by: Maroon at November 25, 2025 01:48 PM (2eayv)

150 Cool thing I heard, and I hope it's real, is that Texas is finally going to start enforcing the law that you must have a valid driver's license to apply for vehicle registration.

And if the dealer applies, they must include a copy.

Seems it was on the books but never really enforced.

If so, the market for used pickups in TX is about to collapse and I'll be getting a screaming hot deal on a used pick-up in Feb as the dealers become desperate to unload 100+ day inventory.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (T3zUV)

151 “Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.”

“Prices will come down. You just watch: They’ll come down, and they’ll come down fast, not only with insurance, with everything.”

Tell people they're idiots for trusting Trump and expecting him to fulfill promises he repeatedly made, that'll fix it.

Posted by: deepelemblues at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (eXcBF)

152 I live on the outskirts of one of the fastest growing cities in America.

We bought our house 2 years ago.

Last week, a house sold that's almost 1,000 sq feet larger than ours, in the same neighborhood under the same HOA and everything, for about $20,000 less than what we bought ours for.

People don't want price decreases when they actually happen because the paper value of their assets also decrease.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

153 They like Trump, seeing him as a different kind of Republican who appeals to union hall Democrats, but they do not like other Republicans, and Trump has never been able to convince them to vote for other Republicans.

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Those union hall Democrats are certainly a big boost for Trump, since it pulls from the opponent's normal totals.

But I don't think it's as big a problem as people like me - former Reublicans who voted for Trump, but who won't vote for any GOP incumbent. I vote for him because I hate the rest of the Party, and I'm far from the only one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (BI5O2)

154 "Trump's sinking approval rating" -- bullshit, he's actually up a few points in the latest polls. Whenever you hear "Trump's sinking approval rating," you should guard your wallet. His rating has been "sinking" for so long he should be at zero by now.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

And that is 'sinking' from a nationwide blowout win. If Congress needs to improve their ability to beat the steals, well the have to do the working themselves in the states.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (8avO+)

155 The real problem is that most of the GOP in Congress are THRILLED by the prospect of a wipeout because then survivors can safely go back to sleep. They're awful and useless.

Posted by: Kensington at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (ponas)

156 39 30 The economy has "slowed" from 1.7% GDP growth to over 4% GDP growth.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 25, 2025 01:30 PM (xvV+O)

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The problem is that the media keeps pumping out stories about how the economy isn't good because we didn't add enough jobs to keep up with population growth (while we're actually losing population because deportations are so aggressive and multi-faceted).

So...people buy into it. People who shouldn't buy into it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)
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For us, that's just the terrain we have to fight on. And has been as long as I recall. In the 80s there were constant stories "But not everyone is benefiting from the rising economy". They'd find some who were miserable (or pretended to be) and proved Reagan was a Nazi.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (s0JqF)

157 I am not convinced GOPe is actually concerned.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (Z4leY)

158 You would think somebody who made their name as a builder would be out there with a plan to increase the supply of housing.

They're already built. Just gotta keep that one-way door to Mexico open.

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (ittVa)

159 I think minor deflation concerns are flat out silly. No one puts off buying a TV because a year from now it will be $5 cheaper.

And really, its like inflation. Minor inflation doesn't matter much either.

But...high levels of either are bad because they distort the economy. Ideally you'd manage a 0% inflation rate and keep the currency value constant.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (sKqQm)

160 148 Changing low-propensity voters into high-propensity voters is a large issue because the behavior is mostly tied to education levels and has been for a long time.

I think that can be at least partially addressed though. Give people an immediate and obvious cash benefit for voting R.

Trump's "tariff giveback" for example. Try to get it passed in the fall of '26 or have it publicly and closely fail. Want the money? Vote R.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:48 PM (sKqQm)

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I think you have to change the party apparatus from top to bottom. The focus needs to be on GOTV, not ad buys, with presence in every district in the country, or least as many as possible.

Money needs to go to get hundreds of door knockers out there through election season to drive people to polls, not mailers or ad buys.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

161 Bring a bottle of bourbon. Four Roses Small Batch is under $40, their Single Barrel is usually under or right around $50. Can't go wrong with either.
Posted by: Doof at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (Ltmlv)

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I'd rather have a pie.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (DRSnL)

162 > "SISU: The Road to Vengeance" - a fun, whip-smart roller coaster ride of an action movie.

I really didn't like the first one, though I wanted to. He kept letting the NAZIs get way too close to him. He'd get surrounded, then and only then he'd go berserker on them. If you completely turn off your brain and take it like a superhero movie, I suppose it's alright. But it's presented like a gritty, real war movie. It wasn't for me.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (Yp6az)

163
If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?

No.

Unless the Thanksgiving meal is BBQ.

Think about it. Have you ever eaten cole slaw at a regular Thanksgiving dinner?

Do you think cole slaw matches the other foods there?

Think about doing something with winter vegetables? Super-easy.

I love cole slaw but I wouldn't love it at a Thanksgiving dinner.

But, you know, do as you wish.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (iJfKG)

164 158 You would think somebody who made their name as a builder would be out there with a plan to increase the supply of housing.

They're already built. Just gotta keep that one-way door to Mexico open.

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (ittVa)

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Builders have been overbuilding for years. We have plenty of supply.

It's just that we imported 16 million people from 2021 to 2024. And yes...illegals get mortgage assistance in some states.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

165 I’m deflation curious as I remain open to completely new experiences.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (GPa4z)

166 What we need is affordable government built owned and operated housing for the masses!!! Peddle THAT idea for 26. Democracy!! For the People!!

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (PCK5/)

167 People don't want price decreases when they actually happen because the paper value of their assets also decrease.

In my area the prices declined slightly from their peaks but are still 50% or more then they were before Biden.

And it is killing people with property taxes. Yes your house is worth more when you sell it, but if you aren't a house flipper you go that in 10-20 years...

Local government is thrilled though. They still try to get even more tax increases, but they have enough money to hire all their relatives even when they fail...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (sKqQm)

168 I am not convinced GOPe is actually concerned.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (Z4leY)



As Megan Kelly said, they LOVE losing. They're really good at it. It's become their thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

169 >>> 135 You would think somebody who made their name as a builder would be out there with a plan to increase the supply of housing. But nope.

The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity? The idea of the interest on that sucker makes me cry.

I know so many millennial couples trying to buy their first home. They cannot make it work with the current interest rates and with all the other weird stuff screwing up the housing market. (Blackrock, illegals, slow increase of housing options, etc)

We just refinanced our mortgage down a percentage point, and we will save $200k over the course of our loan. That is not pocket change for an average family!

Posted by: LizLem at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (gWBY1)

170 “Prices will come down. You just watch: They’ll come down, and they’ll come down fast, not only with insurance, with everything.”

Tell people they're idiots for trusting Trump and expecting him to fulfill promises he repeatedly made, that'll fix it.
Posted by: deepelemblues

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Some prices do go down, and have gone down.
Gasoline, services like insurance, interest rates. .... all these are not sticky and they go down as conditions permit.

The problem is that these are not counted by the media. Food prices are mostly sticky. housing and rents are sticky.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (kIamG)

171 68% of SNAP goes to non-citizens.

SO...if you 0 out the non-citizens you are back to what it was pre-Biden.
Posted by: 18-1

I'm pretty sure professional Leftists on Reddit have assured me a million times this is unpossible. It's illegal, or something...the first law against illegal immigrants they want enforced, apparently, is denying them food, housing and healthcare. Weird.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (JCZqz)

172 If you're invited to someone's house for Thanksgiving, can you just show up with cole slaw?
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Dickeled eggs.

Deviled eggs with a vienna weiner inserted.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (T3zUV)

173 Sure sound like a lot of "we're going to blame Trump no matter what" to me.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (T3zUV)


The problem is that they are defending the current political world as it is, much the way they fought the Tea Party and the way Wm F Buckley fought everyone to control what a conservative can be.
The current world is comfortable and they have boundaries, arrangements with the Dems and everyone knows where the next handout is coming from.

And if that means at times illegal aliens will be trucked in by the planeload, or unions and the children of politicians will be acting as bagmen for foreign dictators, well, the profits are there for everyone in the club and guarantees that the elites will be allowed to walk away when everyone else gets eaten.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (rbvCR)

174 I agree that some slight deflation is basically a non issue , but Trump has absolutely no interest in deflation at all. Jack up interest rates and you’ll cure any level inflation real quick.

Trump is the biggest proponent right now of getting interest rates as low as possible to spur growth

Posted by: Maroon at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (2eayv)

175 =====

I'd rather have a pie.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (DRSnL)



That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

176 Posted by: deepelemblues at November 25, 2025 01:49 PM (eXcBF)

Oh, look another leftist naysayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (lQ+/f)

177 I think you have to change the party apparatus from top to bottom. The focus needs to be on GOTV, not ad buys, with presence in every district in the country, or least as many as possible.

That too. Come election time the local Ds have people that will drive you to the polls...and tell you who to vote for on the drive.

The Rs? All I get are donation emails, donation texts, and donation robocalls.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (sKqQm)

178 Has the Home Depot Ice Scrapper protest been mentioned today?

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (WbprS)

179 When you want to win an election, especially a midterm, do what democrats have done since the beginning of the country - give shit away. When you control all three branches of government you hold the cards, so pass out some money and get elected. This ain't rocket science.

Posted by: jwest at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (lnMN4)

180 Has the Home Depot Ice Scrapper protest been mentioned today?
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (WbprS)



Are they still doing it? And Home Depot hasn't pulled them off the shelf?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

181 As Megan Kelly said, they LOVE losing. They're really good at it. It's become their thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

If you take the uniparty view, it is just normal ebbs and flows, where the losers go to a different public trough or some lobbying gig.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (Z4leY)

182 Gold had increased substantially by 1981, to $650 an ounce. They pushed it all the way back to $350, instead of taking an intermediate $450 value, which would have lessened the damage.
After that, Volcker kept gold stable, until Greenspan let it drop in the mid 90s.

Posted by: MikeN at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (HVZOH)

183 That's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

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'Tis the season to be a fattie.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (DRSnL)

184 I'm pretty sure professional Leftists on Reddit have assured me a million times this is unpossible. It's illegal, or something...the first law against illegal immigrants they want enforced, apparently, is denying them food, housing and healthcare. Weird.

This is the cycle I keep seeing:

First: No non-citizens get any form of welfare. It is against the law and just not possible.

Then: We can't pass this rule requiring citizenship to get benefits! It will throw millions of people off those programs!

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:56 PM (sKqQm)

185 May is toooooo late to get rid of Powell!!
Posted by: runner at November 25, 2025 01:40 PM (g47mK)


How long do you think it will take to find, nominate and get a new Chairman through the Congress? Done by May maybe?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 01:56 PM (rbvCR)

186 IRT the economy and how it feels there is an article going around from somebodies substack:

x.com/JoshKraushaar/status/
1993324556606427493

I was able to read it once but I think they want you to pay for it now. It might be on bari wise's old the free press place.

I thought it was very insightful. People are poking holes at it, but is main thrust is that our view of the economy, what poverty means, and the relationship between income and well being is skewed. He starts off discussing the poverty line being linked to 3x monthly food costs and why that is completely broken now. With the cost of housing, day care and other things rocketing away from food costs. This is old news to people I think. He recalculates the poverty line up from current 30K to 150K. And a lot of people or harping on his methodology there and that he concentrates on families.

But the other part that is good is where he discusses the great penalties imposed in the 30K-150K range. You start earning above 30K and you make less money. It's a math function where people are being sorted into 150K.

If you can check it out I think it is a good read.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 25, 2025 01:56 PM (3uBP9)

187 177 I think you have to change the party apparatus from top to bottom. The focus needs to be on GOTV, not ad buys, with presence in every district in the country, or least as many as possible.

That too. Come election time the local Ds have people that will drive you to the polls...and tell you who to vote for on the drive.

The Rs? All I get are donation emails, donation texts, and donation robocalls.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (sKqQm)

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Actually, what affects things is self-starting behaviors. Something like 90-95% of all voting behavior is unaffected by GOTV, ads, and any other spending.

People just...choose to vote.

(whig sent me an research paper about this that I read, and it came to this conclusion, though the focus was on the relative effectiveness of campaign tactics)

It's not that the DNC is bussing people to vote. It's that Dem voters largely just choose to vote regularly. It's habit. So, we either wait for GOP low-propensity voters to develop the habit, or the RNC spends money to make it a habit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

188 The 50 year mortgage would skyrocket housing prices

Not much different than when the federal government got heavily involved in student loans

Once you remove a lot of obstacles on the “ability to pay “factor, prices go up

Posted by: Maroon at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (2eayv)

189 My wife made a real pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving. I'm diabetic and shouldn't eat any of it, but I'm gonna have some anyway.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (77rzZ)

190 When you want to win an election, especially a midterm, do what democrats have done since the beginning of the country - give shit away/i]

Leftwing demographics get PAID when the Dems win elections. If the Rs win I might not get tax/inflation increases. But even that isn't guaranteed.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (sKqQm)

191 >>Fun fact: The first colonial governor of German Southwest Africa was Hermann Goebells' father.

Goering, not Goebbels.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (NcvvS)

192 I hear more and more complaints, including from actual Republicans, that inflation is still high.

Posted by: Ace at 01:23 PM

You've got the answer, but it's really simple.

Inflation isn't high anymore. It is slightly elevated, but it's very close to the Fed's goal.

Prices are high. While inflation and prices are related, they are not the same.

Like you say, prices aren't likely to come down*. Trump needs to work on wages and make that his pitch. His first term was the first time blue-collar wages outpaced inflation in (IIRC) 40 years.

That's the hope he needs to tout.


*Except for places where prices were artificially raised by scarcity from government action: oil, beef, energy, etc...

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (N1DT3)

193 Has the Home Depot Ice Scrapper protest been mentioned today?
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 25, 2025 01:54 PM (WbprS)


Are they still doing it? And Home Depot hasn't pulled them off the shelf?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM


I guess I am late to the story. My wife was laughing about it this morning and that was the first I had heard of it.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (WbprS)

194 "SISU: The Road to Vengeance" - a fun, whip-smart roller coaster ride of an action movie.

I really didn't like the first one, though I wanted to. He kept letting the NAZIs get way too close to him. He'd get surrounded, then and only then he'd go berserker on them. If you completely turn off your brain and take it like a superhero movie, I suppose it's alright. But it's presented like a gritty, real war movie. It wasn't for me.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 25, 2025 01:52 PM (Yp6az)


Huh. Interesting.

I never saw it as a realistic war movie at all. More like a live version of hyper-violent old style Warner Brothers cartoon. If you think back, there are several scenes which bear this out.

That's probably why I enjoyed it and you didn't.

My expectations were met and your's weren't.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 01:58 PM (iJfKG)

195 169 >>> 135 You would think somebody who made their name as a builder would be out there with a plan to increase the supply of housing. But nope.

The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity?
Posted by: LizLem at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (gWBY1)

He has to know that it is stupid. I can't figure out what might be going on.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 01:58 PM (RuTUS)

196 Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 01:55 PM (DRSnL)

Is there a particular pie you like? I'd bring it if I were coming over ?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2025 01:58 PM (PFs9e)

197 I'm actually optimistic whatever happens in the midterms. You don't elect majorities with the expectation that they will last forever or exist for their own sake. You elect them to be a superior alternative to what you might have had over a relatively short period of time.

Add to that the Democrat Part is utterly broken. It's become a joke to even its own members (looking at you Kartel Kid from Arizona). It's lost 2.1 million voters since 2020 with the Reps gaining 2.4 million nationally in that same time in the thirty states that track by voter ID. Dems lost in every single one of those states.

Bessent is prognosticating a significant economic turnaround come next year. I agree with that assessment. And it's going to happen because we avoided the alternative last November.

Aside from that there's always , "Events, dear boy, events."

And nobody knows exactly which way those events will take us.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 25, 2025 01:58 PM (JAqQQ)

198 Fun fact: The first colonial governor of German Southwest Africa was Hermann Goebells' father.

Goering, not Goebbels.
Posted by: Nazdar

You're right, thanks. I am prone to getting the two "Goe-" guys mixed up if I don't stop and think about it.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:59 PM (77rzZ)

199 It's not that the DNC is bussing people to vote. It's that Dem voters largely just choose to vote regularly. It's habit. So, we either wait for GOP low-propensity voters to develop the habit, or the RNC spends money to make it a habit.

Getting more of that 5-10% that don't always vote to do so can be a big deal.

I agree making it a habit is the important part. I vote whether or not my local GOP does anything. But...for example how many right leaning seniors would go vote if a young person chatted with them, drove them there, and then took them home?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:59 PM (sKqQm)

200 It's not that the DNC is bussing people to vote. It's that Dem voters largely just choose to vote regularly. It's habit. So, we either wait for GOP low-propensity voters to develop the habit, or the RNC spends money to make it a habit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
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I refuse to believe that Dem voters actually get out there to vote. More likely, the Dems manufacture enough votes through the Machine and use the Dem "voters" in their district to give them plausible deniability if anyone challenges the tally.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 25, 2025 01:59 PM (IBQGV)

201 Blaming Trump for this mess isn't going to help anything. He (and a few others he handpicked) are responsible for the only positive developments in US politics over the last 25 years.

Everybody else has fucked us. We should be using this dude as a template, not a whipping boy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2025 01:59 PM (BI5O2)

202 Is there a particular pie you like? I'd bring it if I were coming over ?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2025 01:58 PM (PFs9e)

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Apple is my favorite.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 02:00 PM (DRSnL)

203 Had to look it up, Bulg, because Hermann Goering & Josef Goebbels, could have gone either way.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 25, 2025 02:00 PM (NcvvS)

204 When you want to win an election, especially a midterm, do what democrats have done since the beginning of the country - give shit away
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IDK, we've been selling "eat shit and die" for decades now. Plus tax cuts for corporations. Why would we change that and offer something to middle-class Americans?
/s/
GOPe

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 02:00 PM (T3zUV)

205 200 I refuse to believe that Dem voters actually get out there to vote. More likely, the Dems manufacture enough votes through the Machine and use the Dem "voters" in their district to give them plausible deniability if anyone challenges the tally.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 25, 2025 01:59 PM (IBQGV)

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I don't discount the cheat, but I just think it crested in 2022.

Government workers turned out to vote in VA. Rural Republicans didn't. No need to manufacture 100,000 votes to win that race.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

206 >>>Hundreds of anti-ICE protestors brought their Home Depot to a halt just by buying and returning 17-cent ice scrapers

Oh, my.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (RuTUS)

207 I've been saying for a while that one of the biggest determinants of the 2026 election will be the state of the economy next summer.
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I think the biggest thing will be how many Republican incumbents are paid to mysteriously retire.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (E0p3T)

208 I wonder to what extent Democrats will go, should they gain power again (and they will, sometime), to prevent someone like Trump from threatening their power and the implementation of their world view in the future. My fear is that Trump may prove to be merely the Indian summer of our republic, and that the Democrats will carry us all off to a wintry perdition that may last a very long time. Given the durability of fatuous ideas like socialism, extreme moral relativism, the distractions afforded by the modern equivalents of bread and circuses, I think it is inevitable that we are, at some point, going to be compelled to march all the way to the end of this desolate road before undergoing a sea change in outlook.

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (mADJX)

209 People stop investing because their money is already appreciating in value if they just hoard it under the bed.

I was taught this in tenth grade US History, and I believed it blindly for decades until COVID forced me to question everything.

The first problem is that not many of our fellow citizens invest. About half are dependent on government handouts to survive. At least half the remainder live hand-to-mouth.

I heard sob stories in real life about GS-15s who are in dire financial peril because of the shutdown. These fuckers pull close to $200k/year plus gold-plated benefits around here. How can a few months wreck them?

The second problem is that inflation drives artificial demand for investing, and that artificial demand floods companies with excess capitalization that leads to waste, bubbles, and piss-poor management in general.

Posted by: biteme at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (xWS9V)

210 It's not that the DNC is bussing people to vote. It's that Dem voters largely just choose to vote regularly. It's habit. So, we either wait for GOP low-propensity voters to develop the habit, or the RNC spends money to make it a habit.

Many votes are fakes - they know who votes and who doesn't.

But making a big deal of a person and taking them to the polls can get them to go vote.

And...giving those drivers some "walking around money" will bring in yet more voters. No, you can't control who someone votes for, well, usually, but hand someone $20 and tell them there is another $20 after they vote D and they are probably going to as well...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)

211 Leftwing demographics get PAID when the Dems win elections. If the Rs win I might not get tax/inflation increases. But even that isn't guaranteed.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (sKqQm)

A communist pro-Palestinian Muslim just got elected in the most Jewish city in the U.S. in a landslide by promising a lot of shit he'll never be able to deliver on. He'll blame that non-delivery on republicans, but he tried. I wish the right understood politics.

Posted by: jwest at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (lnMN4)

212 If I may?
Fuck the GOP.
You want your phony ass jobs? Fight for them and fight for us. Otherwise you can swing, suckweasels.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

213 As I keep saying, we can't have prices fall without actual deflation, which the Fed would never allow to happen, because the downsides of deflation are too high. (People stop investing because their money is already appreciating in value if they just hoard it under the bed.)
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This is just false. People will invest if the return on investment beats leaving it under the mattress.

The Fed insists on inflation because between bank lending and federal overspending, there's value being asserted that doesn't actually exist and it has to come out of the economy somewhere. With inflation it comes out of all of our pockets in the form of higher prices. With deflation it materializes in bad loans and bank failures, which aren't any worse to the economy than inflation is, but it hurts bankers and the overly wealthy people that the Fed cares about.

The goal for the Fed should be what it was when it was founded-stable currency, which means forced deflation when there has been inflation.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (vSvIl)

214 I always forget that pixy doesn't like comparative operators and I have to rely on my fortran-ese:

people are sorted into: x.lt.30000.or.x.gt.150000

Posted by: banana Dream at November 25, 2025 02:02 PM (3uBP9)

215 The P/E for SnP 500 stocks went from around 7 in 1980 to around 14 at the end of Reagan in 1988, after a brief spike to 20.

Trump 45's SnP 500 started at about 24 and went to 35.
Trump 47's SnP 500 started about 27 and now is a little over 30.

To the extent The Market reflects on The Economy, and the (apparent) dependence on Markets always going UP, this may not be the greatest indicator. I don't blame Trump so much, as the decades of easy money and profligate spending (and waste/fraud).

Tariffs are helpful/necessary, but there are so many headwinds due to (near) infinite debt.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 25, 2025 02:02 PM (vbXSk)

216 The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity?
Posted by: LizLem at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (gWBY1)

He has to know that it is stupid. I can't figure out what might be going on.
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what if you looked at it as an opening bid, something to get the Dems to counter and then get what you really wanted?

Seems like Trump has done this before .....

But, we've the all Dave Ramsey Boys all rushing to help the Dems avoid even making a counter by attacking it, so .....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 02:03 PM (T3zUV)

217 The first problem is that not many of our fellow citizens invest. About half are dependent on government handouts to survive. At least half the remainder live hand-to-mouth.

I was looking at how much money people in different age ranges have in savings and the thing that struck me most was the difference between the mean and the median meaning that there are a large number of people, even late in life, with no savings.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 02:03 PM (sKqQm)

218 Hundreds of anti-ICE protestors brought their Home Depot to a halt just by buying and returning 17-cent ice scrapers



And no one stood outside with a sign that said "These people would rather illegals invade our town than you be able to work effectively. They hate you."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

219 And the problem continues to be that Trump attracted a lot of blue collar voters who, unfortunately, are not likely voters and who also do not show up to vote for other Republicans.
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And the (observably true) fact that Trump is actually doing shit, however imperfectly, whereas the GOP hasn't done anything of value when it comes to punishing those responsible for the covid scam, or reducing federal debt, or really much of anything.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2025 02:03 PM (vSvIl)

220 "Dickeled eggs.

Deviled eggs with a vienna weiner inserted.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM"
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Snort.

Posted by: Vienna Sausage aficionado at November 25, 2025 02:03 PM (wq6Zu)

221 Hundreds of anti-ICE protestors brought their Home Depot to a halt just by buying and returning 17-cent ice scrapers

Oh, my.
Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:01 PM (RuTUS)

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I would happily donate rolls of quarters for the employees to hand these people and tell them to f*ck off.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2025 02:04 PM (DRSnL)

222 Cole slaw seems like it would make a good Christmas food.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:04 PM (77rzZ)

223 50 year mortgage isn't necessarily a bad idea.

Usually you'll do better paying 10 years of that mortgage and then selling to buy your next house, then you would renting for 10 years and save for a down payment.

And of course if you lock in at a low rate you might be getting a loan with a lower rate then inflation...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 02:05 PM (sKqQm)

224 The propaganda gets to you. This is why I rarely watch news on TV or read left-wing newspapers.

Posted by: PG at November 25, 2025 02:06 PM (3DUTJ)

225 What's a newspaper?

Posted by: Most people at November 25, 2025 02:07 PM (wq6Zu)

226 Damn, now I want cole slaw.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

227 222 Cole slaw seems like it would make a good Christmas food.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:04 PM (77rzZ)

The 3 color Festive kind.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:07 PM (PCK5/)

228 Have the Republicans in Congress thought about actually doing something that they were elected to do?

Or is that just totally off the table?

Posted by: Thatch at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (bbi0+)

229 VOTE like your life depends on it.
Because it does.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (NpAcC)

230 This blog and a few others keep me sane, I think.

Posted by: PG at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (3DUTJ)

231 Arrest the whitebread anti-ICE protestors and drop them in central Mexico. No deportation, they can keep their passports.

Just see if they can make it home in time for their court dates.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (BI5O2)

232 139 I didn't vote in my schoolboard elections, which were "nonpartisan". I couldn't figure out who was bad, and who was worse. Tried calling the local GOP and some state "conservative" organizations. Never got an answer.

We really are bad at this.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)


They don't reach out. Only the well funded state and national candidates send out mailers and give you their supposed stance. There's no source to go find anything. Those that put out signs usually don't even put their party affiliation on the sign anymore. I view these people as democrats ashamed of their party and not worthy of my time to actually look them up.

elections in America, especially local ones, are clusterf*cks of epic proportions. Until our side starts actually taking them seriously at ALL levels, we're doomed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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^ ^ ^ ^
I wish we had upvotes here.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (s0JqF)

233 Gosh, here's a crazy thought that might help lower medical costs - GET RID OF ALL THE ILLEGALS.

Posted by: Your Intrepid Reporter in Little Mogadishu at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (H4qGm)

234 President Trump declares that last year's turkey pardons under Joe Biden are null and void because they were signed by the autopen.

He then repardons last year's turkeys so that they won't be served for Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (RHGPo)

235 But...high levels of either are bad because they distort the economy. Ideally you'd manage a 0% inflation rate and keep the currency value constant.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:50 PM (sKqQm)


To do that you have to somehow prevent the banks from loaning more than they have, in short get rid of the leverage that fractional reserve banking allows.

Something like banks issuing stablecoins backed by gold backed Treasuries, which under current consideration means that the banks can only issue the actual value of the treasuries they have in reserve, 100% backing.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (rbvCR)

236 We are being conditioned for a massive cheat initiative. Perhaps.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (PCK5/)

237 Wonder how CBD feels about carrots in cole slaw.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)

238 Lying about Trump works for them.
They will intensify lying about Trump.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (KtOUo)

239 The fraud isn't going to stop
The Marxists Propaganda Ministry is still working full time
The Cultural Marxism Seminaries still putting out Communists

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2025 02:09 PM (+qU29)

240 Is the GOP really worried about a wipeout? 'Cause it seems to me that they are trying to engineer a wipeout.

Posted by: Emmie at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (FMtrg)

241 I didn't vote in my schoolboard elections, which were "nonpartisan". I couldn't figure out who was bad, and who was worse. Tried calling the local GOP and some state "conservative" organizations. Never got an answer.

I did the same and got the same result. I suggested I could go look at the lefty/dem groups and see who they endorsed and vote the opposite and the GOP person considered it like he'd never heard the idea and agreed it just might work.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (sKqQm)

242 "A communist pro-Palestinian Muslim just got elected"

He did. But not in the way "elected" has been poeticized/romanticized.

This is The Party's guy. He ain't the result of informed voters checking boxes for the best candidate.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (6qf1m)

243 How long do you think it will take to find, nominate and get a new Chairman through the Congress?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 01:56 PM (rbvCR)

About two hours if his name is Mao.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (E0p3T)

244 206 >>>Hundreds of anti-ICE protestors brought their Home Depot to a halt just by buying and returning 17-cent ice scrapers

Oh, my.
Posted by: m

Yes. Gayer than Ace, Garrett and George Takei sharing a Vespa ride while wearing messenger bags and lip gloss.

Posted by: Don't ban me, bro! at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (JCZqz)

245 And those elections are not necessarily going to be a massive defeat.

Those elections don't have to be a massive defeat. All the Dems need is their 50%+1 and they will steamroll their past year of frustrations right through the government; they will undo everything Trump has accomplished to date, and they will prevent any more Trump accomplishments.

Hell, the Dems don't even need 50%+1. They will get their agenda in place with anything near 50%-4 because of the GOP turncoats.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (bufu1)

246
GOP lawmakers say they still have time to improve their party's image before next November.

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Well, there's Ozempic, CoolSculpting, L'Oreal, Maybelline, and the What Not to Wear people.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (RfDQK)

247 Cole slaw is good with BBQ.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

248 230 This blog and a few others keep me sane, I think.
Posted by: PG at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (3DUTJ)

#metoo

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (RuTUS)

249 In my area the prices declined slightly from their peaks but are still 50% or more then they were before Biden.

And it is killing people with property taxes. Yes your house is worth more when you sell it, but if you aren't a house flipper you go that in 10-20 years...

Local government is thrilled though. They still try to get even more tax increases, but they have enough money to hire all their relatives even when they fail...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 01:53 PM (sKqQm)

Amen...deflation in housing prices would be a good thing for all but 65+ and planned housing sellers...the 1st, b/c they tend to have their taxes frozen, so all this property inflation never hurts them, it just gives them more assets at sale, and the 2nd b/c obviously you want to sell at a higher price.

Since 65+ aren't voting R anymore...at all...in great numbers...this would be a winning issue if somehow the sector deflated and not just leveled off...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (tOcjL)

250 VOTE like your life depends on it.
Because it does.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (NpAcC)

That's not good enough.

Nothing will ever be accomplished towards the goal of salvaging the nation as long as the GOP continues to be the party of "We're incrementally less bad than the Democrats, just don't expect us to do anything."

And I get that we've spent our entire lifetimes successfully kicking the can, so people always think it can go on a little longer, but it really cannot go on forever. Debt has to be dealt with. Along with a host of other consequences of just going along to get along.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (vSvIl)

251 230 This blog and a few others keep me sane, I think.
Posted by: PG at November 25, 2025 02:08 PM (3DUTJ)

*nods*
DeviantArt and film blogs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (xcxpd)

252 Cole slaw is good with BBQ.
Posted by: Sponge

Yes, but I can also eat it just by itself.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)

253 The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity?

I'm sure the banks will be benevolent landlords. Who would ever live long enough to own their own home?

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (ittVa)

254 Eeyore, what I do about school board elections is check to see who the NEA (or state teachers union) endorses and then vote the opposite.

Posted by: Emmie at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (FMtrg)

255 Its the H1-B issue!

Recent STEM college graduates cannot get jobs since the entry level positions are getting taken by Indians.

That is what is causing all the anger towards Trump.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (uDSNN)

256
What are you thinking, maybe something like a big, televised show, with various stars and conservative speakers, a "convention" if you will, in the summer of 2028?

IDK, might work.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

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Not for 2026.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (RfDQK)

257 Put the cole slaw on the barbeque inside the bun. It is the Way. If no cole slaw, use potato chips. This is known.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (PCK5/)

258 Another thing to note:

The 2020 Congressional redraw combined with the mid-decade redraws is mostly having the effect of greatly limiting the number of on the cusp seats. More safe seats for both parties.

A Congressional swing of 40 seats is just not in the cards.

Dems may win the House next year, but it would probably be 5-10 seats, a minor win with a couple of dozen Dems in Trump won states facing a 2028 after a middling oppositional midterm. And the GOP will most likely keep the Senate (Collins should win ME again, and no, Cooper is not going to win NC).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

259 This is The Party's guy. He ain't the result of informed voters checking boxes for the best candidate.
Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (6qf1m)

Where in the fuck do have informed voters checking boxes for the best candidate?

Posted by: jwest at November 25, 2025 02:12 PM (lnMN4)

260 I live on the outskirts of one of the fastest growing cities in America.

We bought our house 2 years ago.

Last week, a house sold that's almost 1,000 sq feet larger than ours, in the same neighborhood under the same HOA and everything, for about $20,000 less than what we bought ours for.

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This is real, and an example of Powell being part of the problem. At the moment, sellers outnumber buyers nationally (individual markets may vary). A 6.125% interest rate may not be *objectively* "high", but were Powell out the rates would likely be mid-to-high 5s. And because too many people are aware that it will likely change (lower) in 6 months, we're going to have a very difficult time for sellers in the next 6 months. Too many people who might want a bigger backyard or an additional bedroom have convinced themselves they can wait a few more months.

Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at November 25, 2025 02:13 PM (TN0g+)

261 As others have written here, the people who need to “make the case” for voting republican are republican lawmakers. Start passing some of Trump’s executive orders into law. Show that individual votes matter by passing real election integrity laws. Start addressing, grift by grift, all of the corruption discovered by DOGE and revealed by whistleblowers.

What is Trump supposed to say at this hypothetical national address? Yeah, I know they still hate you and me and refuse to do what they’ve been promising for years but vote for them anyway? Lie and say that’s not what’s happening?

If republicans lose the midterms it will be the fault of a republican congress that refuses to speak to Trump voters. Not because Trump chooses not to betray Trump voters by lying to them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2025 02:13 PM (olroh)

262 Is the GOP really worried about a wipeout? 'Cause it seems to me that they are trying to engineer a wipeout.
Posted by: Emmie at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (FMtrg)


I think we'll know if a bunch of House members jump ship like during the first Trump administration.

Hopefully, MTG is a loner in this endeavor.

Oh, yeah and hopefully she gets a blazing case of the ass-fungus now plaguing Old Blighty.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 02:13 PM (iJfKG)

263 Leftists already have probably a dozen impeachments charges lined up

Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 25, 2025 02:14 PM (mnLCl)

264 Well, the truth - the inflation will not be undone, you are poorer - is not much of a campaign slogan.

Setting that aside, the GOP is not acting like a party that wants to stay in power.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 25, 2025 02:14 PM (cl15i)

265 Setting that aside, the GOP is not acting like a party that wants to stay in power.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 25, 2025 02:14 PM (cl15i)

Bear gets it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

266 In it, a speaker identified as Bally is heard saying, “We have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**‘s in it.”

He also referenced “bioengineered meat,” saying, “I don’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.”

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (RHGPo)

267 Were you going to buy a takeout coleslaw at a fancy gourmet shop? Because that would be fine, I think. Or made at home if you have a super-great recipe.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (RuTUS)

268 "Where in the fuck do have informed voters checking boxes for the best candidate?"

Good question. I'm sure there are some out there somewhere. You'd have to do some on the ground investigation to find them, I think.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (6qf1m)

269 Charlie kirk was good at getting out the vote and they killed him

Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (mnLCl)

270 All of the actors who persecuted Trump in the past are still in place. There may be an exception or to, but essentially they are patiently biding their time.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (PCK5/)

271 266 In it, a speaker identified as Bally is heard saying, “We have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**‘s in it.”

He also referenced “bioengineered meat,” saying, “I don’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.”
Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (RHGPo)

He seems to have made up the last part...unless Campbell's will be under investigation for fraud...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (tOcjL)

272 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?

Posted by: Now I'm curious at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (wq6Zu)

273 "And the problem continues to be that Trump attracted a lot of blue collar voters who, unfortunately, are not likely voters and who also do not show up to vote for other Republicans. They like Trump, seeing him as a different kind of Republican who appeals to union hall Democrats, but they do not like other Republicans, and Trump has never been able to convince them to vote for other Republicans."

Trump came into 2.0 with a plan to help blue-collar America: bring US jobs back from overseas. Everything that he's done domestically is to serve that purpose. Immediate depreciation on capital expenditures, tariffs to encourage domestic production, kicking illegals out of the country and discouraging new ones from coming in - all of it is to serve these purposes.

When Hawaii judges, Fed chairmen, Deep State holdouts, RINOs and Democrats fight against this, and the remaining House and Senate Republicans either don't fight back or rush to compromise with the enemy, it serves to set Trump's stated agenda backwards. If Rs keep up with this, they will pay the price. And deservedly so.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (0CU3H)

274 272 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (wq6Zu)

Acorn pudding.

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (PCK5/)

275 My fear is that Trump may prove to be merely the Indian summer of our republic, and that the Democrats will carry us all off to a wintry perdition that may last a very long time.


Its my opinion that unless JD is elected in 2028, the outcome you describe is inevitable.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (WYStd)

276 272 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (wq6Zu)

Carrots grow wild. They might have had carrot slaw.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (RuTUS)

277 Is the GOP really worried about a wipeout? 'Cause it seems to me that they are trying to engineer a wipeout.

Yes times a thousand.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (olroh)

278 So like the GOPe to refuse to support Trump, then bitch that he's failing him.

Long past time the Loser Party woke up and realized nobody voted for them in November, 2024 - it was all for Trump.

Posted by: Galt at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (cC5pN)

279 What is Trump supposed to say at this hypothetical national address?

I hope it starts with "My fellow Americans...".

Announcing some big arrests would keep spirits up.

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (ittVa)

280 A 6.125% interest rate may not be *objectively* "high", but were Powell out the rates would likely be mid-to-high 5s.

it's just so frustrating bc we all remember the endless 0 percent fed rates for Dem administrations.

it's so nakedly political at this point

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (emBoF)

281 >>> He also referenced “bioengineered meat,” saying, “I don’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.”
Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (RHGPo)


"Meat" in these sort of things is formed from a puree of animal parts and a binder for many decades, back when only scify authors were thinking of printing meat.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (3uBP9)

282 Start passing some of Trump’s executive orders into law

And as an addendum to this - if you really can't get some of Trump's items passed, make legislation covering the strongest case for it anyway and let the Dems kill it in the Senate/House.

This gives ammo to House/Senate candidates running in '26.

There is way too much "why bother trying if we aren't pretty sure we'll win?"

For example imagine making the Dems filibuster no healthcare dollars for illegals?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (sKqQm)

283 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (wq6Zu)



The Indians brought cole slaw, which they called "maize".

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (iJfKG)

284 Conservatives have this silly notion that staying home and letting liberals win elections is some sort of "we'll show them!" act that will somehow work in their favor in the long run.

It won't.

You'll lose your freedom.

You'll lose your way of life.

Stop doing such a stupid f*cking retarded thing.

Dipshits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

285 Its my opinion that unless JD is elected in 2028, the outcome you describe is inevitable.


JD or Ron

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (emBoF)

286 189 My wife made a real pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving. I'm diabetic and shouldn't eat any of it, but I'm gonna have some anyway.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 01:57 PM (77rzZ)

In your wife's defense, it's probably the healthiest pie possible to make, especially for a diabetic, since its sugar load is lower than most pies...

Aka, she chose well for your cheat.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (tOcjL)

287
Hell, the Dems don't even need 50%+1. They will get their agenda in place with anything near 50%-4 because of the GOP turncoats.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 25, 2025 02:10 PM (bufu1)

Correct. This is how the Republicans can always backstop the Democrats.

Without regard to the bad days when 38 representatives simultaneously retire, or the House GOP votes down a Republican President's singular legislation, or sits idly by as he's impeached, you have the "good" days when a faction of the Senate GOP caucus just bails out the Democrats.

Whereas the Democrats will pull an historic Party line vote in the middle of the night for Obamacare, or impeach a President on the flimsiest charge.

It's a shell game.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (BI5O2)

288 The cheap stuff. From the grocery store.

Posted by: Tightwad Thanksgiving guest at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (tkslY)

289 283 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (wq6Zu)

The Indians brought cole slaw, which they called "maize".

Posted by: naturalfake at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (iJfKG)

naturalfake, I snorted.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (RuTUS)

290 Nova Local is correct! a homemade pumpkin pie is a very healthy pie (for a pie, lol)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (emBoF)

291 270 All of the actors who persecuted Trump in the past are still in place. There may be an exception or to, but essentially they are patiently biding their time.
Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (PCK5/)

But a lot of them are right on Dick Cheney's heels.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (uWKK8)

292 284 Conservatives have this silly notion that staying home and letting liberals win elections is some sort of "we'll show them!" act that will somehow work in their favor in the long run.

It won't.

You'll lose your freedom.

You'll lose your way of life.

Stop doing such a stupid f*cking retarded thing.

Dipshits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

But Trump said "pussy"! We can't have such a crass fellow as our standardbearer!

Posted by: Silly conservatives staying home at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (TbWk/)

293 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious

The Indians used every part of the cole.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

294 288 The cheap stuff. From the grocery store.
Posted by: Tightwad Thanksgiving guest at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (tkslY)

Well, some grocery stores have nice little gourmet corners. But not just a dry bag of shredded lettuce and carrot, no.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (RuTUS)

295 I hope it starts with "My fellow Americans...".

My fellow citizens? Just to piss off the right people.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (JCZqz)

296 "Everybody else has fucked us. We should be using this dude as a template, not a whipping boy."

That's no way to operate a circular firing squad.

Posted by: Z, no not him. A different Z at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (89Sog)

297 I can't believe I like Rueben Gallego now

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (emBoF)

298 I hope it starts with "My fellow Americans...".

Announcing some big arrests would keep spirits up.
Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (ittVa)

In my haste, I misread that second line as "Announcing some big breasts ..."

And I thought, "This t-bird guy fucking gets it!"

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (cl15i)

299 278 So like the GOPe to refuse to support Trump, then bitch that he's failing him.

Long past time the Loser Party woke up and realized nobody voted for them in November, 2024 - it was all for Trump.
Posted by: Galt at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (cC5pN)

To be fair to them for just today, his health plan as planned for proposal yesterday was a disaster...it was a return to his 90s big spending self, when we just got rid of the subsidies...

Johnson spoke out about not having the votes and I think that's the 1st time he and Trump have ever differed so far this admin (and Johnson is right - there's no way he has the votes in this House)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (tOcjL)

300 291 270 All of the actors who persecuted Trump in the past are still in place. There may be an exception or to, but essentially they are patiently biding their time.
Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:16 PM (PCK5/)

But a lot of them are right on Dick Cheney's heels.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (uWKK

Do you want to know who the holdouts are? The ones who attended Cheney's funeral, as well as the Democrats who were with them. This is the Deep State.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (0CU3H)

301 He's losing support from independents because he's gone off on wild tangents instead of sticking to his campaign promises.

Posted by: Harlock at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (/zHnW)

302 301 He's losing support from independents because he's gone off on wild tangents instead of sticking to his campaign promises.


very fair

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (emBoF)

303 293 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious

The Indians used every part of the cole.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

And pine trees. Many parts are edible.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (RuTUS)

304 In your wife's defense, it's probably the healthiest pie possible to make, especially for a diabetic, since its sugar load is lower than most pies...

Aka, she chose well for your cheat.
Posted by: Nova Local

Thanks for letting me know. Now I can lower my guilt level.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (77rzZ)

305 284 Conservatives have this silly notion that staying home and letting liberals win elections is some sort of "we'll show them!" act that will somehow work in their favor in the long run.
Posted by: Sponge

Let's be fair...I don't think the staff at The Bulwark pretend to be conservative anymore.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (JCZqz)

306
Reminder: Last week, Secretary of Agriculture Rollins told Laura Ingraham she had some action coming up this week that we would like. I'd say she has until the end of tomorrow to announce it. It related to SNAP fraud.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (RfDQK)

307 In my haste, I misread that second line as "Announcing some big breasts ..."

And I thought, "This t-bird guy fucking gets it!"
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM (cl15i)



I have an announcement........


https://is.gd/3Nbow3

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

308 Do you want to know who the holdouts are? The ones who attended Cheney's funeral, as well as the Democrats who were with them. This is the Deep State.
--------
I though those pictures were amazing. It was like they all got together for a deep state convention, or reunion.

Posted by: Crusader at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (TN0g+)

309 In my haste, I misread that second line as "Announcing some big breasts ..."

And I thought, "This t-bird guy fucking gets it!"
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


I didn't want to get greedy!

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (ittVa)

310 297 I can't believe I like Rueben Gallego now
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 02:20 PM

+++
I think it might be a big hit to serve hot reuben sandwiches for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: On marble rye at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (tkslY)

311 293 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious

The Indians used every part of the cole.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

They would stampede entire herds of cole over cliffs, then pick up only a few select shreds leaving the rest to rot. Then find another herd to stampede.

Posted by: They overslaw much wasteful slawter at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

312 This is real, and an example of Powell being part of the problem. At the moment, sellers outnumber buyers nationally (individual markets may vary). A 6.125% interest rate may not be *objectively* "high", but were Powell out the rates would likely be mid-to-high 5s. And because too many people are aware that it will likely change (lower) in 6 months, we're going to have a very difficult time for sellers in the next 6 months. Too many people who might want a bigger backyard or an additional bedroom have convinced themselves they can wait a few more months.
Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at November 25, 2025 02:13 PM (TN0g+)


This is Krugman's argument against deflation and his reasoning of the Liquidity trap
I didn't believe it when Krugman used it.

The outcome is that houses will get cheaper, not that the house market will freeze solid.

I would ask instead if it is harder to get a home mortgage now than when I got mine in 2011

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (rbvCR)

313 How about everyone stop whinging about it, and start getting out the vote and such?

Posted by: GWB at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (3HYnV)

314 Long past time the Loser Party woke up and realized nobody voted for them in November, 2024 - it was all for Trump.
Posted by: Galt at November 25, 2025 02:17 PM (cC5pN)

To be fair to them for just today, his health plan as planned for proposal yesterday was a disaster...it was a return to his 90s big spending self, when we just got rid of the subsidies...

Johnson spoke out about not having the votes and I think that's the 1st time he and Trump have ever differed so far this admin (and Johnson is right - there's no way he has the votes in this House)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (tOcjL)

Until and unless someone from Congress has the stones to say 'withdraw all subsidies and let the free-market determine medical prices' absolutely nothing will happen. The ideas can't come from Trump but from the people who voted to repeal Obamacare 177 thousand times. They've had long enough to come up with a plan. Let's hear them tell us.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (0CU3H)

315 The midterms are the sole reason for all the crazy stuff Democrats are doing right now. Telling our troops to disobey orders, claiming that Trump is deporting American citizens...everything.
They need to keep their base angry, hateful and terrified. Because angry, hateful and terrified people vote.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (0MjtC)

316 306 Reminder: Last week, Secretary of Agriculture Rollins told Laura Ingraham she had some action coming up this week that we would like. I'd say she has until the end of tomorrow to announce it. It related to SNAP fraud.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (RfDQK)

Maybe it's this?

87 Saw a headline that the Trump admin is forcing everyone on SNAP to reapply.
--
this is true

actually a friend of mine posted the new application form - she is PISSED

she's also morbidly obese. her "disability" is not being able to walk good bc she weighs 300 pounds. she "failed" her gastric bypass.

anyway I loved the form! it was perfection. really good stuff.

the admin is doing everything it can, really. it's falling down on the visa thing, but if we keep the pressure on there they should eventually "get it."
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 25, 2025 01:39 PM (emBoF)

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (RuTUS)

317 Whinging = Whining yes??

Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (PCK5/)

318
The Indians brought cole slaw, which they called "maize".

Posted by: naturalfake

=============

I have it on very good authority that the Cherokee brought Cold Crab Omelets when they sat down with the Pilgrims.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (RfDQK)

319 I have an announcement........


https://is.gd/3Nbow3
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

You transitioned?

Posted by: Call him Emerson. Emerson big tiddies. at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (TbWk/)

320 Conservatives have this silly notion that staying home and letting liberals win elections is some sort of "we'll show them!" act that will somehow work in their favor in the long run.
-
No they aren't, and you're being unserious asserting so.

What happens *every single time* is the Republican Congress destroys the morale of voters by failing to do anything other than coast. Until they behave like elections matter, there's no reason for the rest of us to pretend they do.

Folks are currently enjoying that fantasy that the GOP 'won' the shutdown because more lefties are complaining about how it went than anyone else, but at the end of the day, all they did was continuing spending at levels the left achieved the last time they were in power.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (vSvIl)

321 He's losing support from independents because he's gone off on wild tangents instead of sticking to his campaign promises.
Posted by: Harlock at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (/zHnW)


I know, how DARE the President focus on international conflicts we are embroiled in and threaten our security instead of things he hasn't gotten around to yet in one year.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (rbvCR)

322 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

323 311 293 Did the Pilgrims eat cole slaw at the first Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Now I'm curious

The Indians used every part of the cole.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

They would stampede entire herds of cole over cliffs, then pick up only a few select shreds leaving the rest to rot.
Posted by: They overslaw much wasteful slawter at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

The shreddings.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (RuTUS)

324 Well, at least she won't drown.

Posted by: Just the punchline at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (tkslY)

325 Prices aren’t going to go back down. The Biden inflation represents a permanent reduction in the value of a US dollar. Your purchasing power has been stolen. They ate it. You don’t get it back

Posted by: SMOD at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (RHGPo)

326 To be fair to them for just today, his health plan as planned for proposal yesterday was a disaster...it was a return to his 90s big spending self, when we just got rid of the subsidies...

Johnson spoke out about not having the votes and I think that's the 1st time he and Trump have ever differed so far this admin (and Johnson is right - there's no way he has the votes in this House)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:21 PM (tOcjL)

Until and unless someone from Congress has the stones to say 'withdraw all subsidies and let the free-market determine medical prices' absolutely nothing will happen. The ideas can't come from Trump but from the people who voted to repeal Obamacare 177 thousand times. They've had long enough to come up with a plan. Let's hear them tell us.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (0CU3H)

This is the Rs start to getting rid of subsidies...they actually got rid of the bonus ones and did not keep an entitlement for big business forever...it's a huge win that Trump was trying to undo. I mean, planning to announce a 2 year extension was insanity right now. Better to let them go, and see how January goes and make a decision.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (tOcjL)

327 If an errant Tomahawk Land Attack Missile had a whoopsie and accidentally hit the National Cathedral during Dick Cheney's funeral I would be sad for the damage to a beautiful church, but it would probably would have done a lot toward saving this republic.

Posted by: ballistic at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (3BwY8)

328 313 How about everyone stop whinging about it, and start getting out the vote and such?
Posted by: GWB at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (3HYnV)

The Republicans need to give us something to work to get out the vote for.

Johnson has been the best Speaker we've had so far since Newt, but we don't need anymore Massies or Cornyns in there sniping from the peanut gallery. Until the GOP corpus tells them to go pound sand, the base isn't getting out there for anyone who doesn't fight.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 25, 2025 02:25 PM (0CU3H)

329 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 25, 2025 02:26 PM (NcvvS)

330 Charlie kirk was good at getting out the vote and they killed him
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 25, 2025 02:15 PM (mnLCl)


amazingly enough he was also starting to talk how corporations buying up housing to rent out was squeezing new home buyers out of the market and giving them the option of living in apartments or living in rental housing for the rest of their lives instead of being home owners.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

331 317 Whinging = Whining yes??
Posted by: tubal at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (PCK5/)

whinge | British English
verb (whinges, whingeing | or whinging, whinged)

complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way: stop whingeing and get on with it!.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2025 02:26 PM (RuTUS)

332 Have TJM on the spit screen
So far no Samurai movies

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2025 02:27 PM (+qU29)

333 How about everyone stop whinging about it, and start getting out the vote and such?
Posted by: GWB at November 25, 2025 02:23 PM (3HYnV)


The rumor is that in our state we vote so hard we have up to 125% voter turnout every major election

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:27 PM (rbvCR)

334 Remember:
There are 2-3 major SCOTUS rulings hanging out there that could change 2026.

1) the minority-majority ruling.
2) the mail-in ballot ruling
3) the TX redistricting

AS for #1, maybe only FL, GA, MO and TN might be able to redistrict in time if that goes our way within the next few weeks.

Filing deadlines for candidates:
AL 1-23-26
AR 11-11-25
FL 4-24-26
GA 3-6-26
KY 1-9-26
LA 2-13-26
MO 3-31-26
NC 12-19-25
TN 3-10-26
TX 12-8-25
WV 1-31-26

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 02:28 PM (T3zUV)

335 Stop doing such a stupid f*cking retarded thing.

Dipshits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 25, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

But Trump said "pussy"! We can't have such a crass fellow as our standardbearer!
Posted by: Silly conservatives staying home at November 25, 2025 02:19 PM (TbWk/)

Just going by my own outlook... If I vote for Dems, I get a bad Congress that can't do its job.

If I vote for Repubs... I get a bad Congress who can't do its job.

And that is if my vote even counts...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 02:28 PM (mP0Kj)

336 Nothing will ever be accomplished towards the goal of salvaging the nation as long as the GOP continues to be the party of "We're incrementally less bad than the Democrats, just don't expect us to do anything."

And I get that we've spent our entire lifetimes successfully kicking the can, so people always think it can go on a little longer, but it really cannot go on forever. Debt has to be dealt with. Along with a host of other consequences of just going along to get along.
Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2025 02:11 PM (vSvIl)
********
The Democrat party and the Republican party are not the same.

The Dems are the party of socialism, defund the police, crime, trans rights, mutilating children, sexualizing children, censorship, taking God out of everything, prioritizing illegals.. Muslim culture, Men in women's locker rooms and sports, DEI.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 25, 2025 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

337 It would be safe to lump them all together

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2025 02:31 PM (+qU29)

338 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2025 02:28 PM (T3zUV)

It amazes me that there is a complete lack of urgency by the Supremes. The Power of the Congress can easily depend on a couple of cases THEY ALREADY HEARD, but just have not ruled on... and with election deadlines looming, and court cases being decided... it would be in the best interest of the Nation for them to get off their collective Asses and get the job done.

Because any ruling on Calif or Texas, will have to go back to court, based on what their ruling is... which won't happen before the election.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2025 02:32 PM (mP0Kj)

339 What happens every single time is the Republican Congress destroys the morale of voters by failing to do anything other than coast.

Or “trying” to pass big omnibus bills such as a self defense rights bill that is loaded up with everything and so guaranteed to gain enough opponents to fail. In every conservative issue there are 80/20 points that can be passed on their own. But republicans don’t bring those up on their own because they might pass.

Trump cannot convince his voters to vote for republicans. Only republicans can do that. Because they aren’t his voters. He is their candidate. Republican lawmakers must choose to be their candidate, too, if they want those votes.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2025 02:32 PM (olroh)

340 "I know, how DARE the President focus on international conflicts we are embroiled in and threaten our security instead of things he hasn't gotten around to yet in one year."

This is Boomer Republicanism, and this is why the party is in dire dire straits. This "Government by Tom Clancy novels." is going to lead to an epic midterm wipeout. You're going to have Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker of the House, and Alexandra Ocasio Cortez is going to be running the impeachment hearings.

People do not want to hear, as healthcare costs spike, that anything being done about it is "socialism!!!!!" and that the President is very very busy with peace in the Middle East. Donald Trump is doing the usual 2nd term POTUS thing and trying to notch a Big Foreign Policy Legacy. But that's not what he was elected to do, and it's not what energizes the Donald Trump voter.

The country, the American nation, is actually in really bad shape. I don't know that it can all be fixed in one term. But it certainly will not be fixed if the White House is focused on foreign policy. He was elected on a sweeping domestic agenda, he was not elected to bring peace to the Middle East or to Eastern Europe.


Posted by: Vick King at November 25, 2025 02:36 PM (SPxB8)

341 So… hair on fire, over the opinion of Thom Tillis, who quit because he couldn’t win a primary, and… schmolls.

Ok, I guess.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 25, 2025 02:41 PM (NBcgk)

342 GOP worried about midterms?? LOL

the GOP is working hard across the isle to insure they lose the house so impeachment part 3 can happen.

Posted by: Esperman at November 25, 2025 02:46 PM (8MPpG)

343 I know, how DARE the President focus on international conflicts we are embroiled in and threaten our security instead of things he hasn't gotten around to yet in one year.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2025 02:24 PM (rbvCR)

---

If you think that this is a winning move, then hold onto your hat.

Posted by: Harlock at November 25, 2025 03:13 PM (/zHnW)

344 Congressional elections in 6th year of presidency

Eisenhower 1958
lost 49 seats
JFK/LBJ 1966
Lost 47 seats
Nixon/Ford 1974
Lost 45 seats
Reagan 1986
Lost 4 seats
Clinton 1998
Gained 4 seats
W Bush 2006
Lost 30 seats
Barky 2014
Lost 13 seats

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 25, 2025 03:17 PM (wGerL)

345 He should be worried. He completely fucked over his base.

Posted by: Resist_we_much at November 25, 2025 03:18 PM (cpys8)

346 Right after ww2 the country was young and horny.

Which is a good sign of health.

Posted by: thug dolphin at November 25, 2025 03:22 PM (EyfuW)

347 Democrats will turn out by the millions, most of them insane enough to vote for Hannibal the Cannibal if he has a "D" behind his name. We saw how opposition research fizzled in the recent special elections.

Posted by: MartynWW at November 25, 2025 03:22 PM (+1tao)

348 It will be real easy for Trump to pull the economy back - end high taxes for imports, aka Tariffs. They are driving up costs everywhere. I get the goal, but the implementation is terrible. If the tariffs were offset by lower income taxes, that's fine! But instead, Americans are paying more taxes.

He has done so much good, but this tariff craze is harming that!

Posted by: Patrick Henry, the 2nd at November 25, 2025 03:43 PM (dQqhc)

349 "The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity?"

Renting for 50 is smarter? Your elitest is showing.

Posted by: connected and litigious at November 25, 2025 03:56 PM (s9EN2)

350 "So I've been watching the economy looking for signs of a big turn. Trump had one in his first term. It was like magic -- Obama out, Trump in, and the economy started growing.

But that's not happening now. Or, rather, yes, there is some improvement, but it's a subtle improvement that voters can ignore, and based on Trump's slipping approval, they seem to be ignoring it now. Reagan I and Trump I had big enough economic expansions that voters couldn't ignore it, and even when Reagan's 1984 opponent Walter Mondale tried to deny it, they rejected that denial as delusional."

6% deficit means its very very hard to cut spending, remove illegal workers, and also get growth.

Posted by: coba at November 25, 2025 04:02 PM (IuIym)

351 It's the Ballroom! All those unlikely blue-collar voters just want him to finish his gilded legacy on the East Wing and throw more Gatsby balls.

Posted by: Marleys Ghost at November 25, 2025 04:12 PM (uxXx0)

352 "It will be real easy for Trump to pull the economy back - end high taxes for imports, aka Tariffs. They are driving up costs everywhere. I get the goal, but the implementation is terrible. If the tariffs were offset by lower income taxes, that's fine! But instead, Americans are paying more taxes.


Nah. Trump treats tariffs like John Holmes treated his junk; he gets off by using it to show everyone who the Alpha is.

When he's done handing us off to the ones who will never relinquish power, I wish nothing but fire and brimstone for him. He never cared about anyone but himself.

Posted by: Marleys Ghost at November 25, 2025 04:14 PM (uxXx0)

353 Generic ballot polls are useless and way too slanted ... no way given their stated policies are the Democrats going to take Congress ... all the places they cheat are already navy blue seats ... they can't cheat in purple or red seats (the cities that they use to cheat aren't in those districts) ...

and

"The stupid 50 year mortgage plan is what is getting me. How can Trump even entertain this stupidity?"

heh moron ... the average mortgage lasts 7 years ... nobody actually takes out a 20 or 30 or 50 year mortgage and actually pays it down ... they move and the mortgage goes away ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 25, 2025 04:52 PM (DBAaD)

354 Maybe if the Republican Congress got off their asses and actually DID something, they wouldn't have time to worry about next year's elections.

Because - work with me here - those elections would take care of themselves.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 25, 2025 06:32 PM (pkhvN)

355 Oh, and fuck Thom Tillis.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 25, 2025 06:33 PM (pkhvN)

356 If you refuse to support the American People your career is over

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 25, 2025 06:36 PM (wGqjj)

357 I mean the unusual growth of 500k voters in NJ for Gov/off year elections, over the pretty static numbers for those elections the last 20 years. (twice the actual growth of registered voters in the state) has a lot to do with it. Shockingly the PA election had the same amount of growth for a pretty low enthusiasm and often not cared about election. Another shock is how the Republican numbers would have beat the Dem from 4 years earlier, but most of those 500k went to the dem.

For years they said Republicans had to control elections to stop the cheating, so they can win, but they've completely ignored that.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 25, 2025 07:37 PM (KFJEU)

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