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The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival
Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in New Ulm) 1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. Not just a suggestion.
3) Running with sharp objects is frowned upon.
4) Have a great weekend and a Happy Thanksgiving on Thursday.
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
As it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
If I surrender to His Will;
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life
And supremely happy with Him
Forever and ever in the next. Amen.”
AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update. Prayer Requests: 9/28 - Teresa in Fort Worth gave an update: It has been 1 year since Teresa started “down the cancer rabbit hole”. She sends her thanks for the prayers as they have buoyed her and her family through this year. She has been blessed to exceed the original 6-12 months predicted, by the grace of God – and the prayers of many people. Her next CT scan is in November, and the surgeon is pretty sure that her tumors will be small enough to remove/destroy.
11/10 Update – Everything is fine, but it looks like the cancer is starting to figure out a way around the medication – something they knew would probably happen around this time in the protocol. More news will be coming soon – possibly surgery in late Dec/early Jan.
11/14 Update – Surgery is scheduled for 12/11. She should be able to travel for Christmas. 10/2 – Bluebell passed along an update: grammie winger sends her gratitude for all the prayers – she feels they are working. On Oct 6 she will be starting a cancer treatment program because her doctors are “cautiously optimistic” that they can give her some more time. Monday she gets the port, followed by 6 hours of chemo infusion on Tuesday. The Rev is doing better because now he has some hope. Please pray for her as she starts this treatment program because in her words, “prayer changes things”.
10/18 Update – grammie winger sent an update, that she has had her first chemo treatment. There were no side effects. She noted “God is very kind.”
11/8 Update – grammie winger posted that chemo is “kicking my butt and it’s hard to think”. 10/4 – Skip requested prayers for his dad, who fell at church back in August, hitting his head. He fell again at home and has had back pain since then. He is going in for more tests on 10/8.
10/11 Update – Dad has a brace to wear and has pain medication, so is doing OK for now. He will need an outpatient procedure soon for an injection in his spine to fill a void. Continuing prayers will help.
10/18 Update – Dad is in the hospital, needing some blood clots cleared up, and will soon have the outpatient operation for his back.
10/25 Update – Dad was released from the hospital and is in a rehab center near his home. 10/22 – Pennsyltucky requested prayers for his dad, who underwent cancer surgery on 10/21. Everything seems to have gone well (they’re confident they got it all!) but due to his age, his hospital stay and convalescence will be longer than usual. Dad is doing well, is awake and alert. A full recovery is anticipated but it will take a while. Thank you so much.
11/6 Update – Pennsyltucky’s dad is out of the hospital and is now convalescing at home with the aid of home care nurse visits. He’s not able to walk very well, having spent so long in a hospital bed, but he’s in good spirits and improving daily. Thanks for your prayers! 10/25 – M&B would like prayers for M's sister. Suddenly, she got dizzy, and with no other symptoms, was diagnosed with a stage 4 glioblastoma brain cancer. Surgeons said that they were able to remove most of it but gave her an 18-24 month survival. She's just finished the first round of chemo and radiation, and she just feels awful. She has that "deer in the headlights" look, since this all happened so fast, with no real symptoms! M&B have been searching through all the recent news about other medicinal options that are working for this type of cancer. We are grateful for all prayers! 10/25 – FenelonSpoke asked for prayers for her retired organist Jessie, whose dear daughter, S, died of cancer recently. Also prayers for Korean War vet, R, who has cancer and is not expected to live long. 10/27 – Polliwog the ‘Ette asked for prayers for her youngest daughter, "LK", who needs prayers for safety and peace, and her best friend "C" for health and that stress not cause a flare up of psoriatic arthritis as they and another roommate work with the police and the landlord to have the 4th roommate "M" evicted because she is threatening them and making the living situation a nightmare. “M” is bipolar and medicating with alcohol. Prayers for her healing and that she find salvation from the self-destructive path she's on would also be appreciated.
11/8 Update – The situation still needs lots of prayer. LK sand C have been staying at a hotel to avoid M, who wants to fight whenever she sees them. M is supposed to move out the end of Dec. but that seems like a very long time when C still needs to attend class and keep her arthritis in check. 11/5 – Mary Poppins’ Practically Perfect Piercing said he could use a prayer or two. He has a pain in her head which, it seems, is occipital neuralgia. It’s not fatal, thank heavens, but is painful until a proper treatment course is settled upon. Many thanks.
11/12 Update – Pronouns corrected above. 11/6 - D sent an update on his wife Susan, and her battle with cancer. He sent his thanks to everyone for the prayers. They are helping and much appreciated. Susan had an infection which is being treated, but her sodium levels are bad again. She will be sent home soon, but is on restrictive fluids until this is cleared up. The good news is that she has gained some weight back and her voice is much stronger now. Thank you, and please keep up the prayers. They appreciate everyone!
11/20 Update – Susan is out of the hospital, after 2 weeks. For the first time in months, she doesn’t have any drainage tubes. Chemo is on hold for the next 2 weeks, to give her time to rest, recover, and gain some weight back. Thank you, everyone, for your prayers – please continue them! 11/7 – BarelyScaryMary requested prayers for a friend, RJ, who is having heart issues. She will likely get stents or a bypass soon. Prayers are needed for RJ’s recovery, and also that she is able and willing to make the lifestyle changes necessary for her health.
11/13 Update – Stents were not an option for RJ, so she needs a bypass. She is waiting for the surgery to be scheduled. She is apprehensive about the surgery and recovery. Prayers are also needed for BarelyScaryMary’s dad, who is also having heart problems. Her mom could use prayers, too, as she is watching her husband of 60 years decline. 11/8 – Dash my lace wings had an urgent request for prayers for a co-worker and friend who is hospitalized with sepsis. It is extremely resistant to antibiotics and has attached to the artificial heart valve she got less than a year ago. Her situation is tenuous.
11/15 Update – The co-worker is healing. She was released from the hospital and is on IV antibiotics for 6 weeks. Thank you for your prayers. We nearly lost her. 11/8 – Farmer Bob asked for prayers for his Uncle Richard’s MIL who passed away on 11/7, and for Richard’s wife Linda. Linda’s putting on a brave face and it was not unexpected, but it’s hard to lose your mother. 11/14 – Halfhand requested prayers for a sister whose husband recently passed away unexpectedly in his sleep. They had just upended their lives to move from California to Tennessee; now she is all alone. 11/15 – Smell the Glove asked for prayers for an 81 year-old aunt who has colon cancer. She is stopping chemo, since it’s not working and it’s tiring her out. Doctors will determine if any other treatment is proper. 11/15 – Sponge posted an update on the “First lady”. She is doing OK from the surgery pain-wise, however it appears her compromised immune system from chemo is susceptible to viruses. She has been spiking a fever all weekend. For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update. 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.
Comments
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“ “The Lord is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation. He is my God, and I will praise him, my father’s God, and I will exalt him.”
Exodus 15:2
Exodus 15:2
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:03 AM (PrPHk)
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Good morning Mis Hum and Horde
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2025 08:04 AM (+qU29)
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Bourbon showed up on my last drug test.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2025 08:05 AM (NwnyJ)
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Had 2 large coffee cups today rather than the usual 1
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2025 08:06 AM (+qU29)
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If you remember NiedermeyersDeadHorse aka NDH I believe she could use our prayers. I think she is having some hard times based on what she’s said on the twitters. Not sure of the details but I’m sure God knows.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 08:08 AM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Rosasharn at November 22, 2025 08:09 AM (PzBTm)
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I asked AI to do all my comments today so if it says something stupid it twernt my fault.
Posted by: fd at November 22, 2025 08:09 AM (vFG9F)
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I know that the poster is trying to be funny, (insert gratuitous laugh) but caffeine is never a part of a standard 5/10 panel or DOT drug panel.
Given that its approximately 2-5 mg/L per cup (adjust for body weight and time) it would take hundreds of milligrams (way far more than anyone would drink in coffee) to show up in a toxicology report.
Given that its approximately 2-5 mg/L per cup (adjust for body weight and time) it would take hundreds of milligrams (way far more than anyone would drink in coffee) to show up in a toxicology report.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:11 AM (a4flb)
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Prayers for all.
Posted by: Mick at November 22, 2025 08:11 AM (HFx9z)
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“ As for me, I call to God, and the Lord saves me.”
Psalm 55:16
May the blessings of our Lord and Savior be upon all who need Him.
Psalm 55:16
May the blessings of our Lord and Savior be upon all who need Him.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:13 AM (PrPHk)
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Not sure where to find the update on grammie that Bluebell posted. The chemo is working and the doc is looking at surgery to remove the tumors.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 22, 2025 08:13 AM (2NHgQ)
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Greetings and good morning, one and all. I've just finished with my second cup of coffee and the only real plans are going to class in about an hour and thinking about stuff to put on my Christmas list since I have several people asking.
And tomorrow is platelet donation at the Red Cross.
And tomorrow is platelet donation at the Red Cross.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 22, 2025 08:14 AM (7xrfc)
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Tod is great. Continued prayers for Grammie.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:14 AM (PrPHk)
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Thank you, Marcus T, for posting Scripture daily.
Posted by: Always A Good Thing at November 22, 2025 08:14 AM (oftw2)
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Prayers up
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 22, 2025 08:15 AM (gbOdA)
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Good Saturday morning, horde. May the Lord bless and protect each and every one of you.
Prayers said for all on the list, and some others who are always in my prayers.
Hiya, JT!
Prayers said for all on the list, and some others who are always in my prayers.
Hiya, JT!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:16 AM (h7ZuX)
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Good morning, Mis Hum!
Rule #2 seems a bit strict. You've met a lot of us. What makes you think we're capable of nice or kind?
Rule #2 seems a bit strict. You've met a lot of us. What makes you think we're capable of nice or kind?
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2025 08:16 AM (QMAsf)
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Happy Birthday to me!
Posted by: Rosasharn at November 22, 2025 08:09 AM (PzBTm)
__________
Wot, no twirling?
Happy birfday! You and JJ.
Happy Birthday to me!
Posted by: Rosasharn at November 22, 2025 08:09 AM (PzBTm)
__________
Wot, no twirling?
Happy birfday! You and JJ.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 08:17 AM (tgvbd)
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Good morning. Community coffee 50/50 blend of dark roast and chicory. Good for ails ya.
Good morning. Community coffee 50/50 blend of dark roast and chicory. Good for ails ya.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 22, 2025 08:17 AM (QVmho)
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:17 AM (h7ZuX)
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Thursday Overnight Thread. From Bluebell commenting on grammie. See comment #36.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 22, 2025 08:17 AM (2NHgQ)
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Rosasharn
happy birthday 🎂
happy birthday 🎂
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (+qU29)
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Alito granted a stay last night in the Texas redistricting case.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (XvL8K)
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From previous thread:
Move over, Obama. Your lies about Obamacare have been eclipsed by Google's AI infrastructure head Amin Vahdat's statements on expanding server capacity.
I wonder if Amin Vahdat's statement was informed by Google's own AI. How does it account for the fact that US can never generate enough electricity to power even the less optimistic growth demands of datacenters?
Clearly, AI is going to China. There is zero doubt in my mind that the US and Europe has self-gassed themselves into obsolescence and third world status. Basically a welfare state with a large military.
Its physics. Dialing back expectations of the entire industry is the only reasonable course - I'm assuming that the hype is mainly just to attract retail investors into throwing their money into the burn pile so that the ground floor investors won't lose their pile.
Move over, Obama. Your lies about Obamacare have been eclipsed by Google's AI infrastructure head Amin Vahdat's statements on expanding server capacity.
I wonder if Amin Vahdat's statement was informed by Google's own AI. How does it account for the fact that US can never generate enough electricity to power even the less optimistic growth demands of datacenters?
Clearly, AI is going to China. There is zero doubt in my mind that the US and Europe has self-gassed themselves into obsolescence and third world status. Basically a welfare state with a large military.
Its physics. Dialing back expectations of the entire industry is the only reasonable course - I'm assuming that the hype is mainly just to attract retail investors into throwing their money into the burn pile so that the ground floor investors won't lose their pile.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
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I question whether folks really love Classical Music. If so, why has no one-in over 200 years-not finished Schubert's Unfinished Symphony No. 8 for him. Seems to me it's just the neighborly thing to do. If my neighbor's lawn mower blew up with just a little patch of his lawn left, I would surely finish it up for him.
Posted by: 1822 Was A Long Time Ago at November 22, 2025 08:22 AM (oftw2)
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Bourbon showed up on my last drug test.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Being from KY, that is kind of expected. One would think that the report would be adjusted for regional variances.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Being from KY, that is kind of expected. One would think that the report would be adjusted for regional variances.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:22 AM (a4flb)
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"I have good news! At my appointment Monday the Doctor said my bloodwork is nearly perfect and my cancer cell count is dropping. I'm in minimal pain. The chemo is working thanks be to God! I will go back in three weeks for another round of chemo and then they will do a CT scan to see if I can have surgery to clean out the rest of the tumors. I am convinced - CONVINCED - that this is due in no small part to the treasured prayers of friends and family! They gave me weeks, and now I'm looking at possible remission."
Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2025 01:28 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: bluebell at November 20, 2025 01:28 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 22, 2025 08:22 AM (+mUZM)
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That's the update on Grammie
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (+mUZM)
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Two months after surgery and I’m gradually starting to feel normal again. The main problem is that the effects of the anesthesia are still suppressing my appetite. I’m down to what I weighed when I was 19. A couple of days agai I started taking THC gummies and that is helping. The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
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I question whether folks really love Classical Music. If so, why has no one-in over 200 years-not finished Schubert's Unfinished Symphony No. 8 for him. Seems to me it's just the neighborly thing to do. If my neighbor's lawn mower blew up with just a little patch of his lawn left, I would surely finish it up for him.
Posted by: 1822 Was A Long Time Ago at November 22, 2025 08:22 AM (oftw2)
There are a good many completions of the Unfinished. Among the most notable is by Brian Newbould, recorded by Jo Ann Falletta and Sir Neville Marriner.
https://tinyurl.com/3jjuyjdz
I question whether folks really love Classical Music. If so, why has no one-in over 200 years-not finished Schubert's Unfinished Symphony No. 8 for him. Seems to me it's just the neighborly thing to do. If my neighbor's lawn mower blew up with just a little patch of his lawn left, I would surely finish it up for him.
Posted by: 1822 Was A Long Time Ago at November 22, 2025 08:22 AM (oftw2)
There are a good many completions of the Unfinished. Among the most notable is by Brian Newbould, recorded by Jo Ann Falletta and Sir Neville Marriner.
https://tinyurl.com/3jjuyjdz
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 08:25 AM (tgvbd)
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Happy Birthday, Rosasharn!
The Lord bless you and keep you;
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you;
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.
Numbers 6:24-26
The Lord bless you and keep you;
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you;
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.
Numbers 6:24-26
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:26 AM (Yl2Ob)
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Happy Birthday, Rosasharn! Have you ever watched the 1979 TV movie "Twirl", starring Erin Moran and Lisa Whelchel? It's surprisingly good.
Posted by: Baton Down The Hatches! at November 22, 2025 08:26 AM (oftw2)
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>> Thank you, Marcus T, for posting Scripture daily.
Of course. All for the glory of God. May He bless you all and answer your prayers.
Of course. All for the glory of God. May He bless you all and answer your prayers.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:26 AM (mwv1/)
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3) Running with sharp objects is frowned upon.
Good to see MisHum loosening the overly strict rules here!
Good to see MisHum loosening the overly strict rules here!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 22, 2025 08:27 AM (hOUT3)
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I normally don't hit the morning coffee thread, yet, I manage to hit the one with beautiful "Grace of God" update about Grammie.
Makes my day.
Makes my day.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 22, 2025 08:27 AM (UJMvS)
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Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
Glad you've retained your sense of humor despite the troubles and weight loss. Continued prayers.
Glad you've retained your sense of humor despite the troubles and weight loss. Continued prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:27 AM (Yl2Ob)
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>> Triumph at Miss Universe 2025: Fátima Bosch, the Devout Mexican Catholic, Wins the Crown and Celebrates by Making the Sign of the Cross – Raising High the Pride of Hispanic Catholic Women
https://tinyurl.com/mrvp4zpp
https://tinyurl.com/mrvp4zpp
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:28 AM (mwv1/)
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I started taking THC gummies and that is helping. The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
*snort
Great to hear of your continuing recovery, Duke Lowell.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
*snort
Great to hear of your continuing recovery, Duke Lowell.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:28 AM (h7ZuX)
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I ask the intercession of Blessed Karl of Austria for grammie in every Rosary. Maybe he's listening.
I ask the intercession of Blessed Karl of Austria for grammie in every Rosary. Maybe he's listening.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 08:28 AM (tgvbd)
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Good morning dear horde and thanks to annie and mh and you morons for praying
I read an update that grammie's treatment's have been very effective and that remission is now the prognosis.
I read an update that grammie's treatment's have been very effective and that remission is now the prognosis.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2025 08:29 AM (9ipOP)
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Mornin’, All. Happy Saturday.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Running with sharp objects is frowned upon.
Could I run with a dull object? Could I just run by myself. I'm feeling rather dull at the moment. Too little sleep.
Could I run with a dull object? Could I just run by myself. I'm feeling rather dull at the moment. Too little sleep.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:30 AM (Yl2Ob)
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" I started taking THC gummies and that is helping. The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell"
When you start chasing imaginary butterflies it's time to back off.
Posted by: Duke Lowell"
When you start chasing imaginary butterflies it's time to back off.
Posted by: AI cat feeder at November 22, 2025 08:30 AM (vFG9F)
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From previous thread:
Move over, Obama. Your lies about Obamacare have been eclipsed by Google's AI infrastructure head Amin Vahdat's statements on expanding server capacity.
I wonder if Amin Vahdat's statement was informed by Google's own AI. How does it account for the fact that US can never generate enough electricity to power even the less optimistic growth demands of datacenters?
Clearly, AI is going to China. There is zero doubt in my mind that the US and Europe has self-gassed themselves into obsolescence and third world status. Basically a welfare state with a large military.
Its physics. Dialing back expectations of the entire industry is the only reasonable course - I'm assuming that the hype is mainly just to attract retail investors into throwing their money into the burn pile so that the ground floor investors won't lose their pile.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
That's my take. Amin Vahdat (pronounced "asshat") must be getting high on his own supply.
Move over, Obama. Your lies about Obamacare have been eclipsed by Google's AI infrastructure head Amin Vahdat's statements on expanding server capacity.
I wonder if Amin Vahdat's statement was informed by Google's own AI. How does it account for the fact that US can never generate enough electricity to power even the less optimistic growth demands of datacenters?
Clearly, AI is going to China. There is zero doubt in my mind that the US and Europe has self-gassed themselves into obsolescence and third world status. Basically a welfare state with a large military.
Its physics. Dialing back expectations of the entire industry is the only reasonable course - I'm assuming that the hype is mainly just to attract retail investors into throwing their money into the burn pile so that the ground floor investors won't lose their pile.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
That's my take. Amin Vahdat (pronounced "asshat") must be getting high on his own supply.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 22, 2025 08:30 AM (wVcYX)
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Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.
Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:31 AM (ZOv7s)
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Happy Birthday, Rosasharn!
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:31 AM (77rzZ)
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Manatee Coffee Winter Blend for my morning fuel. Good company and I recommend them without hesitation.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 22, 2025 08:31 AM (7xrfc)
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Time to pack up and get ready to drive to the airport in a couple of hours. At least I paid for an upgrade seat where I get extra leg room and a "free" drink. Air travel is something to endure, not to enjoy.
Posted by: PabloD at November 22, 2025 08:32 AM (2RzNJ)
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Happy Birthday, Rosasharn! and many more!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 22, 2025 08:32 AM (Cjt/F)
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Prayers up for those that have asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that know they need them but have not asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that need them but don’t know it yet; and
Prayers up for those who pray alone, asking for help in silence, and whose prayers are known but to God!
Prayers up even for all "our" politicians who have decided that the 10% graft and power are far more desirable than honor or integrity, may they see the error of their ways and repent before it is too late for all of us!
And lastly, prayers up for our President Trump, keep him safe from harm and may the many forces of evil arrayed against him and our country be made ineffective and come to naught!
Prayers up for those that know they need them but have not asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that need them but don’t know it yet; and
Prayers up for those who pray alone, asking for help in silence, and whose prayers are known but to God!
Prayers up even for all "our" politicians who have decided that the 10% graft and power are far more desirable than honor or integrity, may they see the error of their ways and repent before it is too late for all of us!
And lastly, prayers up for our President Trump, keep him safe from harm and may the many forces of evil arrayed against him and our country be made ineffective and come to naught!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 22, 2025 08:33 AM (hOUT3)
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Praise Tod from whom all blessings flow.
Posted by: See post number 13 at November 22, 2025 08:33 AM (XQo4F)
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Pablo. Amen, I fly Monday while wearing an ortho boot and fighting a cold. Not looking forward to it.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 22, 2025 08:33 AM (2NHgQ)
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I started taking THC gummies and that is helping. The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Sounds like you're in the market for some Lava Lamps and wall-ceiling tapestries. And sitar music.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Sounds like you're in the market for some Lava Lamps and wall-ceiling tapestries. And sitar music.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 22, 2025 08:34 AM (wVcYX)
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There are a good many completions of the Unfinished. Among the most notable is by Brian Newbould, recorded by Jo Ann Falletta and Sir Neville Marriner.
https://tinyurl.com/3jjuyjdz
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Jo Ann Falletta was a "local" girl around here for nearly 30 years.. I've seen her conduct Virginia Symphony about a dozen times.
https://tinyurl.com/3jjuyjdz
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Jo Ann Falletta was a "local" girl around here for nearly 30 years.. I've seen her conduct Virginia Symphony about a dozen times.
Posted by: Long May She Wave at November 22, 2025 08:34 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2025 08:34 AM (mwv1/)
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The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
cool keep on truckin
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
cool keep on truckin
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 22, 2025 08:35 AM (gbOdA)
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I would like to ask for prayers for our nursing home service this afternoon- that all would go smoothly and the residents feel the love of the Lord.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:35 AM (Yl2Ob)
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Before: No thanks, I’m not really hungry.
Now: Say, anyone know where we keep the marshmallow fluff?
Now: Say, anyone know where we keep the marshmallow fluff?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:35 AM (u73oe)
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The only downside is that I’m now wearing tie dyed shirts and bell bottoms.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
Far Out Man! I Can Dig It!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:23 AM (u73oe)
Far Out Man! I Can Dig It!
Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at November 22, 2025 08:36 AM (R/m4+)
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Happy Birthday, Rosasharn. Twirl away. Twirl like the wind!
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 22, 2025 08:36 AM (wVcYX)
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Clearly, AI is going to China.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
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And there it will die, because the CCP is now eating its own tail. The recent Party Congress decreed that markets had failed and the state needed to take a more active role in planning the economy.
When does the new dynasty begin?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
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And there it will die, because the CCP is now eating its own tail. The recent Party Congress decreed that markets had failed and the state needed to take a more active role in planning the economy.
When does the new dynasty begin?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:36 AM (ZOv7s)
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Its physics. Dialing back expectations of the entire industry is the only reasonable course - I'm assuming that the hype is mainly just to attract retail investors into throwing their money into the burn pile so that the ground floor investors won't lose their pile.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
Hey we're programmers and conmen, not physicists!
If every house can have two computers running 24/7, why can't every acre have two datacenters running 24/7?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 08:19 AM (a4flb)
Hey we're programmers and conmen, not physicists!
If every house can have two computers running 24/7, why can't every acre have two datacenters running 24/7?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 22, 2025 08:37 AM (hOUT3)
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Happy birthday Rosasharn please put the cake down before twirling.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2025 08:38 AM (A0sqA)
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But are you wearing any Paisley Duke?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 22, 2025 08:39 AM (fOsTv)
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Before: No thanks, I’m not really hungry.
Now: Say, anyone know where we keep the marshmallow fluff?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:35 AM (u73oe)
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My wife had used medibles for a while, and they did lower body inflammation and improve sleep for a while (she took them at bedtime) but some weeks ago, she got the munchies and ate things on the forbidden list and was in the ER the next day due to icky things I won't mention here.
She got antibiotics, that cleared up things but opened the door to worse things, and now we're awash in appointments.
Stay off drugs, kids!
Now: Say, anyone know where we keep the marshmallow fluff?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:35 AM (u73oe)
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My wife had used medibles for a while, and they did lower body inflammation and improve sleep for a while (she took them at bedtime) but some weeks ago, she got the munchies and ate things on the forbidden list and was in the ER the next day due to icky things I won't mention here.
She got antibiotics, that cleared up things but opened the door to worse things, and now we're awash in appointments.
Stay off drugs, kids!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:39 AM (ZOv7s)
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Duke, they make a high-protein ice cream called Magic Cup people love its good for weight gain if you like ice cream.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2025 08:40 AM (A0sqA)
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But are you wearing any Paisley Duke?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 22, 2025 08:39 AM (fOsTv)
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Yes, and it’s groovy, man!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 22, 2025 08:39 AM (fOsTv)
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Yes, and it’s groovy, man!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 08:40 AM (u73oe)
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Sounds like you're in the market for some Lava Lamps and wall-ceiling tapestries. And sitar music.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 22, 2025 08:34 AM (wVcYX)
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Bead curtains. Green shag carpet thick enough hide children.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 22, 2025 08:34 AM (wVcYX)
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Bead curtains. Green shag carpet thick enough hide children.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:40 AM (ZOv7s)
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Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need. Thx MisHum for including my aunt.
I've keeping the Horde Utd on the trial of the trooper in my home .
city
Also about what leftists I know on Facebook are saying . The left is all over the place of Trump's meeting with Mamdani. From "Trump caved" to "Mamdani sold out" it's a lot of fun
I've keeping the Horde Utd on the trial of the trooper in my home .
city
Also about what leftists I know on Facebook are saying . The left is all over the place of Trump's meeting with Mamdani. From "Trump caved" to "Mamdani sold out" it's a lot of fun
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (bfwj/)
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42 Running with sharp objects is frowned upon.
Could I run with a dull object? Could I just run by myself. I'm feeling rather dull at the moment. Too little sleep.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:30 AM (Yl2Ob)
Just remember prayers may not be forthcoming for running with anything
Could I run with a dull object? Could I just run by myself. I'm feeling rather dull at the moment. Too little sleep.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:30 AM (Yl2Ob)
Just remember prayers may not be forthcoming for running with anything
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (fOsTv)
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Also, since we won't have a prayer thread until after Thanksgiving, I would like to ask prayers of comfort and strength for anyone who has a missing place at the dinner table this year because of the death of a loved one. Holidays are so very, very hard after the death of a loved one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (guLpK)
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25 I question whether folks really love Classical Music. If so, why has no one-in over 200 years-not finished?
So you didn’t like Shave and a Haircut, two bits?
25 I question whether folks really love Classical Music. If so, why has no one-in over 200 years-not finished?
So you didn’t like Shave and a Haircut, two bits?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 08:43 AM (/ZNPI)
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Its dank, Dark and damp out there. Unfortunately, that makes it a perfect leaf raking day. Pack well and don't blow away.
Damn.
Damn.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 08:44 AM (sl73Y)
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The left is all over the place of Trump's meeting with Mamdani. From "Trump caved" to "Mamdani sold out" it's a lot of fun
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (bfwj/)
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Schroedinger's sellout.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (bfwj/)
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Schroedinger's sellout.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:47 AM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: Rosasharn
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 08:47 AM (sl73Y)
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Leaf blowers: Mexican bagpipes.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 22, 2025 08:48 AM (XQo4F)
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My treasured hippie clothing item was my leather vest with fringes. Pretty cool on an 8 year old.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2025 08:48 AM (A0sqA)
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The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 08:49 AM (aUxYo)
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The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
Posted by: Ian S.
Why it is almost like maybe, just maybe, the laws of nature do apply to them!
Posted by: Ian S.
Why it is almost like maybe, just maybe, the laws of nature do apply to them!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 22, 2025 08:52 AM (hOUT3)
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I’m kinda glad Schubert didn’t finish it. I love most of the guy’s stuff, but, honestly, the Eighth is pretty boring, and goes on far too long as it is.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (77rzZ)
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Morning again, coffee mainliners,
My coffee this morning, again, is the Cafe El Morro espresso blend that Aldi sells. It's $3.25 in my neck of the woods for 8.8 oz., so $7.50 for a bit more than a pound. A much better deal than the $12 per 8-12 oz. for bigger names, or specialty blends like the ones at World Market.
I smoked a pipe as well, half of it before breakfast and half after. Now, shaved and dressed, I have about forty minutes before I have to head out for haircut and a library visit.
My coffee this morning, again, is the Cafe El Morro espresso blend that Aldi sells. It's $3.25 in my neck of the woods for 8.8 oz., so $7.50 for a bit more than a pound. A much better deal than the $12 per 8-12 oz. for bigger names, or specialty blends like the ones at World Market.
I smoked a pipe as well, half of it before breakfast and half after. Now, shaved and dressed, I have about forty minutes before I have to head out for haircut and a library visit.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (wzUl9)
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I am convinced that the Lord loves us infinitely. But before He blesses you with a healing, you have ask for it.
God > Tod.
God > Tod.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:55 AM (W7XSX)
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So, it's a mercy that it ended.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:55 AM (W7XSX)
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I’m kinda glad Schubert didn’t finish it. I love most of the guy’s stuff, but, honestly, the Eighth is pretty boring, and goes on far too long as it is.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (77rzZ)
Try the Ninth, when they take all the repeats. It goes on, and on, and on.
I’m kinda glad Schubert didn’t finish it. I love most of the guy’s stuff, but, honestly, the Eighth is pretty boring, and goes on far too long as it is.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (77rzZ)
Try the Ninth, when they take all the repeats. It goes on, and on, and on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 08:56 AM (tgvbd)
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The Nielsen ratings people sent me a radio diary, asking me to record my radio listening for a week, this Thursday through Wed. the 26th. They included an actual cash dollar bill for my time and promised another $5 once I mail the diary back. 6
For $6 cash I'll record anything you want me to, up to and including how much my cats eat each week.
Well. *Almost* anything. . . .
For $6 cash I'll record anything you want me to, up to and including how much my cats eat each week.
Well. *Almost* anything. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 08:56 AM (wzUl9)
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I lost a dear friend in early Sept. She suffered so much. She is not suffering anymore. I am grateful.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (W7XSX)
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God > Tod.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:55 AM (W7XSX)
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For a period during middle school, people used "Tod" in place of God when cursing. "What in the name of Tod is that?" Tod was a popular kid, and wore it well.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:55 AM (W7XSX)
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For a period during middle school, people used "Tod" in place of God when cursing. "What in the name of Tod is that?" Tod was a popular kid, and wore it well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (ZOv7s)
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And a happy birthday for Rosasharn! Party like nobody's watching!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 08:58 AM (wzUl9)
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The left is all over the place of Trump's meeting with Mamdani. From "Trump caved" to "Mamdani sold out" it's a lot of fun
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (bfwj/)
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Schroedinger's sellout.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:47 AM (ZOv7s)
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Heh. Well said.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2025 08:41 AM (bfwj/)
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Schroedinger's sellout.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:47 AM (ZOv7s)
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Heh. Well said.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 22, 2025 08:58 AM (fkCfm)
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The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 08:49 AM (aUxYo)
Always use a licensed electrician for the electrical stuff.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 08:49 AM (aUxYo)
Always use a licensed electrician for the electrical stuff.
Posted by: Paco Jimenez, Illegal Invader and Home Repair Truck Owner at November 22, 2025 08:58 AM (R/m4+)
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For a period during middle school, people used "Tod" in place of God when cursing. "What in the name of Tod is that?" Tod was a popular kid, and wore it well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (ZOv7s)
OK, that's kind of funny.
*adds Toddammit to vocabulary
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (ZOv7s)
OK, that's kind of funny.
*adds Toddammit to vocabulary
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:59 AM (h7ZuX)
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The Lord bless you and keep you;
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you;
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.
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This one always lifted my spirits. Mainly because when we heard that, we knew the sermon was over (finally!) and we could go home.
The Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you;
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.
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This one always lifted my spirits. Mainly because when we heard that, we knew the sermon was over (finally!) and we could go home.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2025 09:00 AM (Hm2SV)
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> The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
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Don't mess with mother nature?
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Don't mess with mother nature?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2025 09:00 AM (NwnyJ)
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I lost a dear friend in early Sept. She suffered so much. She is not suffering anymore. I am grateful.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (W7XSX)
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A friend of mine is dealing with his mother's health issues, and it is exhausting him. This seems to be the final phase - it's hard to reach him, but last I heard, she was refusing to eat or drink.
In situations like that, death is a release for everyone. Her husband died a few years ago, and maybe that's part of it.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 08:57 AM (W7XSX)
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A friend of mine is dealing with his mother's health issues, and it is exhausting him. This seems to be the final phase - it's hard to reach him, but last I heard, she was refusing to eat or drink.
In situations like that, death is a release for everyone. Her husband died a few years ago, and maybe that's part of it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:00 AM (ZOv7s)
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adds Toddammit to vocabulary
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:59 AM (h7ZuX)
Goes good with Mother Hubbard!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 08:59 AM (h7ZuX)
Goes good with Mother Hubbard!
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:00 AM (KDPiq)
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I actually don't remember the last drug test I had to take. Wait, yes I do; when I was applying to work for the courier company in '78. Since my only drug then (and later) was alcohol, nothing got flagged. I went on to work for that company for almost nine years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 09:01 AM (wzUl9)
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When Jesus saw him lying there and learned that he had been in this condition for a long time, he asked him, 'Do you want to get well?'
Posted by: John 5:6 at November 22, 2025 09:02 AM (XQo4F)
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A lot of compositions by Bach were “unfinished” but really puzzles that had a very specific musical solution left to the reader.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 09:02 AM (3uBP9)
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And there it will die, because the CCP is now eating its own tail. The recent Party Congress decreed that markets had failed and the state needed to take a more active role in planning the economy.
When does the new dynasty begin?
Sounds like AI is self-correcting.
I was all excited that AI would be a glorified search engine, where if I came up with the right prompts would get useful results. It seems that it gets its training like college students today - from completely failed and irresponsible sources.
So AI isn't reliable, it can't be fed good energy, good data or good algorithms; because of the high duty cycles, the equipment failure rate requires high frequency replacement; no one wants to have a DC in their neighborhood, nor compete with the DC for land, energy and water, but if a DC gets past all of those barriers, then it has to be staffed by anyone other than foreigners - oh, and we need billions of dollars and contract commitments in order to fund it.
When does the new dynasty begin?
Sounds like AI is self-correcting.
I was all excited that AI would be a glorified search engine, where if I came up with the right prompts would get useful results. It seems that it gets its training like college students today - from completely failed and irresponsible sources.
So AI isn't reliable, it can't be fed good energy, good data or good algorithms; because of the high duty cycles, the equipment failure rate requires high frequency replacement; no one wants to have a DC in their neighborhood, nor compete with the DC for land, energy and water, but if a DC gets past all of those barriers, then it has to be staffed by anyone other than foreigners - oh, and we need billions of dollars and contract commitments in order to fund it.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:03 AM (a4flb)
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For a period during middle school, people used "Tod" in place of God when cursing. "What in the name of Tod is that?" Tod was a popular kid, and wore it well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025
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I miss certain things about junior high school. Summer vacation, and . . . actually, that's about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025
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I miss certain things about junior high school. Summer vacation, and . . . actually, that's about it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 09:03 AM (wzUl9)
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Reading the news everyday this past year. I have a feeling we are not getting the accurate crime demographic statistics.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:04 AM (KDPiq)
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I’m kinda glad Schubert didn’t finish it. I love most of the guy’s stuff, but, honestly, the Eighth is pretty boring, and goes on far too long as it is.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (77rzZ)
Anton Bruckner would like word with you.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 08:53 AM (77rzZ)
Anton Bruckner would like word with you.
Posted by: dantesed at November 22, 2025 09:04 AM (Oy/m2)
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There are a few Van Gogh paintings I don’t like but I figure he’s allowed one or two.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:06 AM (KDPiq)
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The left is all over the place of Trump's meeting with Mamdani. From "Trump caved" to "Mamdani sold out" it's a lot of fun
Posted by: Smell the Glove
I have no idea why Trump would meet with.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
Posted by: Smell the Glove
I have no idea why Trump would meet with.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 22, 2025 09:06 AM (/lPRQ)
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Lord hear our prayers.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at November 22, 2025 09:07 AM (5jRcY)
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Always use a licensed electrician for the electrical stuff.
Posted by: Paco Jimenez, Illegal
Eh, backwoods Brazilian s are much cheaper.
Posted by: Paco Jimenez, Illegal
Eh, backwoods Brazilian s are much cheaper.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 09:08 AM (sl73Y)
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The C.I.A. did a lot of searching for “truth serum” or substances or mechanisms to get people to talk. They did have some notable success with concentrated cannabis or THC derivatives. They zeroed in on injecting it carefully into cigarettes (everyone smoked in the 1950s, practically). Does weed loosen people’s mouths? I suppose it must.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2025 09:08 AM (Hm2SV)
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"So AI isn't reliable, it can't be fed good energy, good data or good algorithms..."
"Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
"Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
Posted by: Mark 10:18 at November 22, 2025 09:08 AM (XQo4F)
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Anton Bruckner would like word with you.
Posted by: dantesed at November 22, 2025 09:04 AM (Oy/m2)
There's more than a little similarity between the two. Though I often think Bruckner is taken way too slowly. Little would be lost if played with more urgency.
Anton Bruckner would like word with you.
Posted by: dantesed at November 22, 2025 09:04 AM (Oy/m2)
There's more than a little similarity between the two. Though I often think Bruckner is taken way too slowly. Little would be lost if played with more urgency.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 09:09 AM (tgvbd)
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I have no idea why Trump would meet with.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
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The mayor of NYC is the de facto governor of NY state, or near enough. Mr. Trump is a native of NYC as well, he does have personal interest and connection to the place.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
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The mayor of NYC is the de facto governor of NY state, or near enough. Mr. Trump is a native of NYC as well, he does have personal interest and connection to the place.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2025 09:10 AM (Hm2SV)
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This one always lifted my spirits. Mainly because when we heard that, we knew the sermon was over (finally!) and we could go home.
Posted by: Common Tater at
The "thanks be to God" that comes after "the Mass is ended, go in peace" is by far the most heartfelt "thanks be to God".
Posted by: Common Tater at
The "thanks be to God" that comes after "the Mass is ended, go in peace" is by far the most heartfelt "thanks be to God".
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 09:11 AM (sl73Y)
Posted by: dantesed at November 22, 2025 09:12 AM (Oy/m2)
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110 I have no idea why Trump would meet with.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
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We're sitting right here.
He hasn't hosted the Mayor of Bowling Green yet has he?
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We're sitting right here.
Posted by: The mayors of Pensacola, Pocatello, and Las Cruces at November 22, 2025 09:12 AM (XQo4F)
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So AI isn't reliable, it can't be fed good energy, good data or good algorithms; because of the high duty cycles, the equipment failure rate requires high frequency replacement; no one wants to have a DC in their neighborhood, nor compete with the DC for land, energy and water, but if a DC gets past all of those barriers, then it has to be staffed by anyone other than foreigners - oh, and we need billions of dollars and contract commitments in order to fund it.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:03 AM (a4flb)
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It isn't really anything more than a chatbot wired to a search engine. Slight changes in phrasing produce dramatically different results and of course there's the garbage-in, garbage-out problem that is only exacerbated by woke culture and punitive liberalism. The CCP lives in an ideological straitjacket, so will never allow inconvenient facts to pollute the answers.
Seems like just another tech bubble.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:03 AM (a4flb)
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It isn't really anything more than a chatbot wired to a search engine. Slight changes in phrasing produce dramatically different results and of course there's the garbage-in, garbage-out problem that is only exacerbated by woke culture and punitive liberalism. The CCP lives in an ideological straitjacket, so will never allow inconvenient facts to pollute the answers.
Seems like just another tech bubble.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)
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This one always lifted my spirits. Mainly because when we heard that, we knew the sermon was over (finally!) and we could go home.
Posted by: Common Tater at
The "thanks be to God" that comes after "the Mass is ended, go in peace" is by far the most heartfelt "thanks be to God".
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 09:11 AM (sl73Y)
Being a Southern Baptist when I was a kid I knew services were almost over when they invited people who wanted to be saved to walk to the front to declare they wanted to accept Christ in their life.
Posted by: Common Tater at
The "thanks be to God" that comes after "the Mass is ended, go in peace" is by far the most heartfelt "thanks be to God".
Posted by: From about That Time at November 22, 2025 09:11 AM (sl73Y)
Being a Southern Baptist when I was a kid I knew services were almost over when they invited people who wanted to be saved to walk to the front to declare they wanted to accept Christ in their life.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:14 AM (KDPiq)
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"So AI isn't reliable, it can't be fed good energy, good data or good algorithms..."
"Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
This is my chief complaint about the over-reliance on AI.
In my mind it should be an augmentation to our thinking. As a person with ADHD, I accomplish far more by directing minions/agents to do the linear thinking while I perform the non-linear thinking and delegate the mundane, templatized tasks.
While there are people who thrive on repetition and implementing well thought out tasks, there are not enough of them (ergo H1Bs).
While in the Tech Thread, a commentor reported that Grok was able to perform complex maths, AI doesn't have and never will have Wisdom for Wisdom is of divine origin and the spirit world doesn't inhabit silicon.
Since AI can not value nor recognize Truth, it will forever be handicapped and be like fire - useful only when contained by those with wisdom and discernment.
"Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
This is my chief complaint about the over-reliance on AI.
In my mind it should be an augmentation to our thinking. As a person with ADHD, I accomplish far more by directing minions/agents to do the linear thinking while I perform the non-linear thinking and delegate the mundane, templatized tasks.
While there are people who thrive on repetition and implementing well thought out tasks, there are not enough of them (ergo H1Bs).
While in the Tech Thread, a commentor reported that Grok was able to perform complex maths, AI doesn't have and never will have Wisdom for Wisdom is of divine origin and the spirit world doesn't inhabit silicon.
Since AI can not value nor recognize Truth, it will forever be handicapped and be like fire - useful only when contained by those with wisdom and discernment.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:16 AM (a4flb)
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Hmmm. Chris Pratt and Gwen Stefani will be participating in audio reflections for Advent on Hallow. I've read Sefani is a "revert" to Catholicism not sure about Pratt.
Liam Neeson has recorded the Rosary, so you can say it with him, which would be pretty cool.
The demons seem to be losing their grip.
Liam Neeson has recorded the Rosary, so you can say it with him, which would be pretty cool.
The demons seem to be losing their grip.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)
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Being a Southern Baptist when I was a kid I knew services were almost over when they invited people who wanted to be saved to walk to the front to declare they wanted to accept Christ in their life.
Yeah, but you didn't know how many verses of "Just As I Am" the congregation was supposed to chant until the last possible convert could be motivated to come forward.
Yeah, but you didn't know how many verses of "Just As I Am" the congregation was supposed to chant until the last possible convert could be motivated to come forward.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (a4flb)
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Prayers up to all requests, posted and otherwise.
Earlier this week, a friend told me of a young teen girl named Jasmine, who is struggling from the effects of awful abuse that, praise God, ended about five years ago. She is currently living with a stepfather who recently remarried. The family loves her, but Jasmine remains withdrawn.
Recently, she asked an uncle if life gets harder. This was the first time she ever spoke to him. Everyone recognizes this as a warning sign and a cry for help. They will be together for Thanksgiving. Pray for wisdom and a straight path in finding a resource for Jasmine's healing.
Earlier this week, a friend told me of a young teen girl named Jasmine, who is struggling from the effects of awful abuse that, praise God, ended about five years ago. She is currently living with a stepfather who recently remarried. The family loves her, but Jasmine remains withdrawn.
Recently, she asked an uncle if life gets harder. This was the first time she ever spoke to him. Everyone recognizes this as a warning sign and a cry for help. They will be together for Thanksgiving. Pray for wisdom and a straight path in finding a resource for Jasmine's healing.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (nbLIj)
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Seems like just another tech bubble.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)
My understanding is there are two modes of AI tech. The one criticized here is the weak or ML or any number of names given to it. The other is much more complex and referred to as Strong AI or DL ( Deep Learning) .
I belive someone yesterday referred to one mode as Definitive.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)
My understanding is there are two modes of AI tech. The one criticized here is the weak or ML or any number of names given to it. The other is much more complex and referred to as Strong AI or DL ( Deep Learning) .
I belive someone yesterday referred to one mode as Definitive.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:19 AM (KDPiq)
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Humans have to (well, they used to) find three (3) different corroborating sources to be considered true and accurate for news stories. “Sources say” or “Some people say” isn’t credible.
The principle holds anyhow. Why isn’t AI rigorous enough to use only proven factual sources, instead of some smart aleck who suggested Elmer’s Glue to keep cheese from sliding off Pizza? This happened, and the AI program dutifully suggested this after scraping it from a discussion forum. Sarcasm is difficult to detect for computers. (Some humans seem incapable as well)
It did helpfully allow that Elmer’s glue is “Non-Toxic”. Recipes you can use!
The principle holds anyhow. Why isn’t AI rigorous enough to use only proven factual sources, instead of some smart aleck who suggested Elmer’s Glue to keep cheese from sliding off Pizza? This happened, and the AI program dutifully suggested this after scraping it from a discussion forum. Sarcasm is difficult to detect for computers. (Some humans seem incapable as well)
It did helpfully allow that Elmer’s glue is “Non-Toxic”. Recipes you can use!
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2025 09:19 AM (Hm2SV)
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It isn't really anything more than a chatbot wired to a search engine. Slight changes in phrasing produce dramatically different results and of course there's the garbage-in, garbage-out problem that is only exacerbated by woke culture and punitive liberalism. The CCP lives in an ideological straitjacket, so will never allow inconvenient facts to pollute the answers.
Seems like just another tech bubble.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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There is a bit more to it than that. But yes,it is a bubble right now, but there are some useful things going on as well as not so useful things.
Machine learning aka pattern recognition works decently when the particular training datasets and the model is focused on a particular field that can be summarized by 'tokens' and probability. I think it can work decently on for example summarizing a massive law, a body of literature, etc.
There could be some errors when someone familiar with the field notices it but it works okay if you are willing to tolerate 10 percent crap and 90 percent useful in these cases. It does not work for the ignorant very well or the lazy but as a first draft it is fine. Something similar with coding
Seems like just another tech bubble.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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There is a bit more to it than that. But yes,it is a bubble right now, but there are some useful things going on as well as not so useful things.
Machine learning aka pattern recognition works decently when the particular training datasets and the model is focused on a particular field that can be summarized by 'tokens' and probability. I think it can work decently on for example summarizing a massive law, a body of literature, etc.
There could be some errors when someone familiar with the field notices it but it works okay if you are willing to tolerate 10 percent crap and 90 percent useful in these cases. It does not work for the ignorant very well or the lazy but as a first draft it is fine. Something similar with coding
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:20 AM (WDjG6)
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The demons seem to be losing their grip.
The demons are far more obvious now as those that they possess in Babylon DC and elsewhere show absolutely no restraint at all in letting the spirits within them speak.
The demons are far more obvious now as those that they possess in Babylon DC and elsewhere show absolutely no restraint at all in letting the spirits within them speak.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:20 AM (a4flb)
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Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!
Prayers up for all of God's children today. We all need them.
And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.
Prayers up for all of God's children today. We all need them.
And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at November 22, 2025 09:21 AM (kB9dk)
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I miss certain things about junior high school. Summer vacation, and . . . actually, that's about it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Tracey Lochner wearing a see-through, sheer blouse to school in 8th grade was a highlight. She got sent home quickly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Tracey Lochner wearing a see-through, sheer blouse to school in 8th grade was a highlight. She got sent home quickly.
Posted by: Two Highlights, Actually at November 22, 2025 09:21 AM (oftw2)
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There could be some errors when someone familiar with the field notices it but it works okay if you are willing to tolerate 10 percent crap and 90 percent useful in these cases. It does not work for the ignorant very well or the lazy but as a first draft it is fine. Something similar with coding
^^^ THIS ^^^
^^^ THIS ^^^
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:21 AM (a4flb)
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Being a Southern Baptist when I was a kid I knew services were almost over when they invited people who wanted to be saved to walk to the front to declare they wanted to accept Christ in their life.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:14 AM (KDPiq)
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One of the things my wife (raised Southern Baptist) likes about the Church is the structure of the Mass. You always know exactly where you are, and can anticipate what is happening next, so the only uncertainty is the length of the homily, which can only vary so much.
Tomorrow they are holding a candlelight Mass in the evening and we will be attending. It's at the student location and very well attended. Lots of young people showing up.
My wife has observed that the number of women wearing veils is increasing, and it's all younger folks. She was at a senior Mass (all Boomers) and she was the only one wearinng one. I think a lot of the drama over TLM is Boomers with axes to grind about the old days. At the same time, I have an uncle who broke from the Church over Vatican II and is now agnostic.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:14 AM (KDPiq)
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One of the things my wife (raised Southern Baptist) likes about the Church is the structure of the Mass. You always know exactly where you are, and can anticipate what is happening next, so the only uncertainty is the length of the homily, which can only vary so much.
Tomorrow they are holding a candlelight Mass in the evening and we will be attending. It's at the student location and very well attended. Lots of young people showing up.
My wife has observed that the number of women wearing veils is increasing, and it's all younger folks. She was at a senior Mass (all Boomers) and she was the only one wearinng one. I think a lot of the drama over TLM is Boomers with axes to grind about the old days. At the same time, I have an uncle who broke from the Church over Vatican II and is now agnostic.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:22 AM (ZOv7s)
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Did Tracey have her high beams on?
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2025 09:23 AM (Hm2SV)
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Liam Neeson has recorded the Rosary, so you can say it with him, which would be pretty cool.
The demons seem to be losing their grip.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)
Didn't he convert to Islam a while back? Makes me distrustful of the whole app now.
The demons seem to be losing their grip.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)
Didn't he convert to Islam a while back? Makes me distrustful of the whole app now.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 09:23 AM (h7ZuX)
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The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
Hopefully, some of those assholes were in it.
Hopefully, some of those assholes were in it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2025 09:24 AM (LjSYW)
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Have gummy vitamins but also gummy Melatonin.
Monday ( I think it was) was doing daily suduko and grabbed Melatonin instead of one of the others and chewed it up.
Then realized it was the Melatonin.
Seemingly got through the day
Monday ( I think it was) was doing daily suduko and grabbed Melatonin instead of one of the others and chewed it up.
Then realized it was the Melatonin.
Seemingly got through the day
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2025 09:24 AM (+qU29)
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The principle holds anyhow. Why isn’t AI rigorous enough to use only proven factual sources, instead of some smart aleck who suggested Elmer’s Glue to keep cheese from sliding off Pizza? This happened, and the AI program dutifully suggested this after scraping it from a discussion forum. Sarcasm is difficult to detect for computers. (Some humans seem incapable as well)
It did helpfully allow that Elmer’s glue is “Non-Toxic”. Recipes you can use!
Posted by: Common Tater
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Source reliability is where you start to get the problems with an algorithm--are conservative sites 'reliable' (leftist rating companies cheerfully tell AI companies NO! for example). Basically AI is like a precocious kid that reads a lot but has no experience in the real world so what the kid tells you depends on what books it read. A human professional in a field has to look over the work who can tell what is missing, what is fake, and what is a gray area. AI today has no such filters other than human corrections (if they take those into account when conducting queries--part of which is why those are 'free' so far for some. They want unpaid work to correct their models.
It did helpfully allow that Elmer’s glue is “Non-Toxic”. Recipes you can use!
Posted by: Common Tater
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Source reliability is where you start to get the problems with an algorithm--are conservative sites 'reliable' (leftist rating companies cheerfully tell AI companies NO! for example). Basically AI is like a precocious kid that reads a lot but has no experience in the real world so what the kid tells you depends on what books it read. A human professional in a field has to look over the work who can tell what is missing, what is fake, and what is a gray area. AI today has no such filters other than human corrections (if they take those into account when conducting queries--part of which is why those are 'free' so far for some. They want unpaid work to correct their models.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:25 AM (WDjG6)
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Tracey Lochner wearing a see-through, sheer blouse to school in 8th grade was a highlight. She got sent home quickly.
Unless Tracey failed a lot, a 13 year old generally doesn't have control of a credit card or have an independent income stream.
That means that a parent thought it was perfectly fine to buy that blouse for Tracey and to let her leave the house that morning wearing it.
But what is also disturbing is the whole supply chain, from designer, manufacturer, merchandiser, purchaser and manager of the store who thought it would be a good selling product targeting children.
Unless Tracey failed a lot, a 13 year old generally doesn't have control of a credit card or have an independent income stream.
That means that a parent thought it was perfectly fine to buy that blouse for Tracey and to let her leave the house that morning wearing it.
But what is also disturbing is the whole supply chain, from designer, manufacturer, merchandiser, purchaser and manager of the store who thought it would be a good selling product targeting children.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:25 AM (a4flb)
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Yeah, but you didn't know how many verses of "Just As I Am" the congregation was supposed to chant until the last possible convert could be motivated to come forward.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (a4flb)
I went to a very large church with my friend’s parents. My parents were God loving Christian but didn’t attend any church and encouraged me to make my own decisions.
When I publicly accepted Christ ( I had already done it personally long before) it was hard for a kid to walk in front of hundreds of people with all eyes on you. It took me a good while before I just sucked it up and did it.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (a4flb)
I went to a very large church with my friend’s parents. My parents were God loving Christian but didn’t attend any church and encouraged me to make my own decisions.
When I publicly accepted Christ ( I had already done it personally long before) it was hard for a kid to walk in front of hundreds of people with all eyes on you. It took me a good while before I just sucked it up and did it.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 22, 2025 09:26 AM (KDPiq)
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Pray for wisdom and a straight path in finding a resource for Jasmine's healing.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (nbLIj)
Done, and I will keep her in my prayers.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 22, 2025 09:18 AM (nbLIj)
Done, and I will keep her in my prayers.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 09:26 AM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 09:27 AM (W7XSX)
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Liam Newsome has publicly denied the claims that he became a Muslim. (Based on some foolish statements he made publicly once). He says he is still Roman Catholic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 09:27 AM (/ZNPI)
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Good morning Horde, prayers in abundance for all who need them. I was so happy to read Grammie's news this week.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 22, 2025 09:27 AM (0nHVk)
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I have a request. I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:28 AM (3nLb4)
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I have a request. I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob
You got it.
Posted by: Oddbob
You got it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2025 09:30 AM (LjSYW)
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The demons are far more obvious now as those that they possess in Babylon DC and elsewhere show absolutely no restraint at all in letting the spirits within them speak.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:20 AM (a4flb)
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It was interesting when Trump began posting Marian devotions and Catholic prayers on his social media account last year to see how many people lost their minds over it.
I think that in turn caused a lot of reluctant Catholics to finally ignore the bishops and take a chance on Trump, because whatever his flaws, he was going to stop Biden's persecution of the Church.
The US Bishops have beclowned themselves on immigration (yet again) but this time we have a Pope willing to offer clarification and correction: Nations may set borders and enforce them. Open borders are right out.
I think the key to Pope Leo is that he values tradition and continuity, and so he will not repudiate anything his predecessor did, but he will change it. Thus, Traditiones Custodes will not be rescinded, but he will make blanket dispensations to the point where it becomes a dead letter.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:20 AM (a4flb)
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It was interesting when Trump began posting Marian devotions and Catholic prayers on his social media account last year to see how many people lost their minds over it.
I think that in turn caused a lot of reluctant Catholics to finally ignore the bishops and take a chance on Trump, because whatever his flaws, he was going to stop Biden's persecution of the Church.
The US Bishops have beclowned themselves on immigration (yet again) but this time we have a Pope willing to offer clarification and correction: Nations may set borders and enforce them. Open borders are right out.
I think the key to Pope Leo is that he values tradition and continuity, and so he will not repudiate anything his predecessor did, but he will change it. Thus, Traditiones Custodes will not be rescinded, but he will make blanket dispensations to the point where it becomes a dead letter.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)
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I think a lot of the drama over TLM is Boomers with axes to grind about the old days. At the same time, I have an uncle who broke from the Church over Vatican II and is now agnostic.
How else could we have banjos and belly-dancers in the Church if it wasn't for the "wisdom" of Vatican II?
How else could we have banjos and belly-dancers in the Church if it wasn't for the "wisdom" of Vatican II?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:30 AM (a4flb)
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Are you physically fit?
I understand there are lot of jobs in construction in Charlotte available.
I understand there are lot of jobs in construction in Charlotte available.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 09:31 AM (W7XSX)
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137 Liam Newsome has publicly denied the claims that he became a Muslim. (Based on some foolish statements he made publicly once). He says he is still Roman Catholic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 09:27 AM (/ZNPI)
Good to know, thanks.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 09:27 AM (/ZNPI)
Good to know, thanks.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 22, 2025 09:31 AM (h7ZuX)
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The UN Climate Pavilion that was just built atop acres of freshly cleared old-growth Amazon rainforest burned down in the middle of the conference. Fitting.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 08:49 AM (aUxYo)
No doubt they will blame the fire on.....
Climate Change.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 08:49 AM (aUxYo)
No doubt they will blame the fire on.....
Climate Change.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 22, 2025 09:31 AM (SRRAx)
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"...where it becomes a dead letter."
I hope that you are correct.
His personnel decisions have left me unimpressed.
I hope that you are correct.
His personnel decisions have left me unimpressed.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (W7XSX)
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Please pray for peace in Chicago. It's getting harder to stay here.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (kJH1Z)
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I belive someone yesterday referred to one mode as Definitive.
Posted by: the way I see it
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First, there is no AGI-aka Artificial General Intelligence yet which would be 'conscious'. Such a computer would be "Mike" in the Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein. Most of what we consider AI is pattern recognition which relies on probability distributions of 'tokens'. The 'tokens' vary by field--visual--it would be a 'pixel', a 'color', etc. Sound, it would a 'frequency', a 'note', a 'word (if lyrics)', a 'rhyme'. Note that all of these can work on a probability function to predict for example the color of a pixel next to a green one in the abstract AI command of "make me a tree in summer". Or make me a country song (Billy Joel once pissed off people by noting country songs are relatively simple melodically and lyrically). That uses a 'chord or note' and figures out probability wise using previous songs what the next pleasing 'chord or note' will be. Ditto with lyrics (rhyming dictionaries anyone?).
Posted by: the way I see it
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First, there is no AGI-aka Artificial General Intelligence yet which would be 'conscious'. Such a computer would be "Mike" in the Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein. Most of what we consider AI is pattern recognition which relies on probability distributions of 'tokens'. The 'tokens' vary by field--visual--it would be a 'pixel', a 'color', etc. Sound, it would a 'frequency', a 'note', a 'word (if lyrics)', a 'rhyme'. Note that all of these can work on a probability function to predict for example the color of a pixel next to a green one in the abstract AI command of "make me a tree in summer". Or make me a country song (Billy Joel once pissed off people by noting country songs are relatively simple melodically and lyrically). That uses a 'chord or note' and figures out probability wise using previous songs what the next pleasing 'chord or note' will be. Ditto with lyrics (rhyming dictionaries anyone?).
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:33 AM (WDjG6)
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My eyes are up there. WAAAY up there.
Posted by: Tracey Lochner's mammary glands today at November 22, 2025 09:36 AM (XQo4F)
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139 I have a request. I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:28 AM (3nLb4)
I've walked that valley more than once. May God deliver for you as He did for me, times ten..
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:28 AM (3nLb4)
I've walked that valley more than once. May God deliver for you as He did for me, times ten..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 22, 2025 09:36 AM (nbLIj)
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I have an uncle who broke from the Church over Vatican II and is now agnostic.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I don't think you can find one in ten Catholics who can explain Vatican II. I know I can't. If it was meant to re-invigorate the Church, it signally failed.
The Novus Ordo Mass was established separately but contemporaneously. For most Catholics, me included, Mass is the only contact we have with the institutional Church. And this shoddy, shambling show gets associated with Vatican II. Have a Mass that's not serious and you'll take the rest of the Church teachings not seriously.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I don't think you can find one in ten Catholics who can explain Vatican II. I know I can't. If it was meant to re-invigorate the Church, it signally failed.
The Novus Ordo Mass was established separately but contemporaneously. For most Catholics, me included, Mass is the only contact we have with the institutional Church. And this shoddy, shambling show gets associated with Vatican II. Have a Mass that's not serious and you'll take the rest of the Church teachings not seriously.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 09:37 AM (tgvbd)
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Basically AI is like a precocious kid that reads a lot but has no experience in the real world so what the kid tells you depends on what books it read.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:25 AM (WDjG6)
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My parents chafed under what they thought were oppressive parents, so they did not put up any guardrails for my reading, which exposed me to a lot of things I did not have the capability to understand. My wife had guardrails, but jumped them.
As parents, we put these firmly in place, and our kids seem much better off than we were. I think one of the reasons it took so long for me to truly come to God was that I had so much poison in my brain, and was incapable of identifying it.
This dovetails with the girl and the sheer shirt. She didn't buy it, someone else did. (I'm not going to blame the manufacturer, it could have been for a petite adult.)
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:25 AM (WDjG6)
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My parents chafed under what they thought were oppressive parents, so they did not put up any guardrails for my reading, which exposed me to a lot of things I did not have the capability to understand. My wife had guardrails, but jumped them.
As parents, we put these firmly in place, and our kids seem much better off than we were. I think one of the reasons it took so long for me to truly come to God was that I had so much poison in my brain, and was incapable of identifying it.
This dovetails with the girl and the sheer shirt. She didn't buy it, someone else did. (I'm not going to blame the manufacturer, it could have been for a petite adult.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)
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147 Please pray for peace in Chicago. It's getting harder to stay here.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (kJH1Z)
Sad to say that HA ran a piece yesterday saying “if you live in Chicago, Move Out ASAP!!” The piece made the case quite eloquently and convincingly.
It’s always extremely hard to move and abandon an old life - but you’re essentially a Jew in 1936 Berlin now. A lot of them thought it was too hard to move, also.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (kJH1Z)
Sad to say that HA ran a piece yesterday saying “if you live in Chicago, Move Out ASAP!!” The piece made the case quite eloquently and convincingly.
It’s always extremely hard to move and abandon an old life - but you’re essentially a Jew in 1936 Berlin now. A lot of them thought it was too hard to move, also.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 09:39 AM (/ZNPI)
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To continue, a perfect example of machine learning pattern recognition is IBM's 'Watson' which defeated grandmasters in chess because chess with each of its pieces following rules in movement and a specified size gameboard can be boiled down to bounded probabilities as to the optimum winning strategy based on the other side's moves.
Where it would fall flat would be an analysis of a war between the US and China in 2028. It could give analysis (but those probabilities themselves would be based on human analysis thus fallible), it would run the same risk that human analysis does because what is an unknown factor is still unknown, and so on. Some like VDH could give analysis based on whatever data existed along with experience of previous conflict analysis but a machine would be dependent on low confidence probabilities and likely to go astray without expert human correction. So in complex situations, AI can be a helper to humans with expert knowledge but not an independent expert itself.
Where it would fall flat would be an analysis of a war between the US and China in 2028. It could give analysis (but those probabilities themselves would be based on human analysis thus fallible), it would run the same risk that human analysis does because what is an unknown factor is still unknown, and so on. Some like VDH could give analysis based on whatever data existed along with experience of previous conflict analysis but a machine would be dependent on low confidence probabilities and likely to go astray without expert human correction. So in complex situations, AI can be a helper to humans with expert knowledge but not an independent expert itself.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:39 AM (WDjG6)
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I hope that you are correct.
His personnel decisions have left me unimpressed.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (W7XSX)
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Again, he values continuity so he is not deviating from Francis' preferences. The appointments he has made that were a clean slate (his choice alone) are doctrinally very orthodox.
I think this is a conscious decision to create true unity rathe than kick off a cycle of punitive swings. If you dislike how Francis operated, becoming his mirror image is not a good response.
His personnel decisions have left me unimpressed.
Posted by: no one at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (W7XSX)
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Again, he values continuity so he is not deviating from Francis' preferences. The appointments he has made that were a clean slate (his choice alone) are doctrinally very orthodox.
I think this is a conscious decision to create true unity rathe than kick off a cycle of punitive swings. If you dislike how Francis operated, becoming his mirror image is not a good response.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:39 AM (ZOv7s)
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About the only positive about junior high was the phys-ed classes with the girls. We had to "dress" for gym. T-shirts (white) and shorts (white or gray.) Same for the girls. Bras were optional. Apparently.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2025 09:40 AM (NwnyJ)
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Neeson didn't convert to Islam. He made some dumb remark about liking the call to prayer in Istanbul and joked that it made him think of converting. It was just a conciliatory, flattering thing to say to his Turkish hosts, but the retarded Arab press picked it up and ran with it, claiming he'd converted to their retard religion, forcing him to repeatedly deny their retarded rumor.
Posted by: Islamoradon't at November 22, 2025 09:40 AM (BI5O2)
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139 have a request. I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:28 AM (3nLb4)
Prayers for you and your family.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:28 AM (3nLb4)
Prayers for you and your family.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:41 AM (kJH1Z)
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As parents, we put these firmly in place, and our kids seem much better off than we were. I think one of the reasons it took so long for me to truly come to God was that I had so much poison in my brain, and was incapable of identifying it.
This dovetails with the girl and the sheer shirt. She didn't buy it, someone else did. (I'm not going to blame the manufacturer, it could have been for a petite adult.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Sounds reasonable. I think one of the reasons that some parents of old were so strict is that the world was not forgiving to fools prior to modernization and the modern welfare state.
Mistakes often killed people, bad personal choices led to ruin without redemption (broke often meant starvation or worse), and so on.
This dovetails with the girl and the sheer shirt. She didn't buy it, someone else did. (I'm not going to blame the manufacturer, it could have been for a petite adult.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Sounds reasonable. I think one of the reasons that some parents of old were so strict is that the world was not forgiving to fools prior to modernization and the modern welfare state.
Mistakes often killed people, bad personal choices led to ruin without redemption (broke often meant starvation or worse), and so on.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Frank Costanza at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (XQo4F)
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Good morning good people. Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested and those known but to God.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:43 AM (cYBz/)
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The Novus Ordo Mass was established separately but contemporaneously. For most Catholics, me included, Mass is the only contact we have with the institutional Church. And this shoddy, shambling show gets associated with Vatican II. Have a Mass that's not serious and you'll take the rest of the Church teachings not seriously.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 09:37 AM (tgvbd)
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Done well, it is quite good. Scott Hahn completed his conversion because he went to Mass and saw what he had been craving.
The problem is that it is often not done well, and it lends itself to guitars and bongos. The candlelight Masses are quite moving and include a nice use of Latin.
Honestly, the Latin setting of the Novus Ordo would be pretty cool. I bet the college kids would eat it up.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2025 09:37 AM (tgvbd)
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Done well, it is quite good. Scott Hahn completed his conversion because he went to Mass and saw what he had been craving.
The problem is that it is often not done well, and it lends itself to guitars and bongos. The candlelight Masses are quite moving and include a nice use of Latin.
Honestly, the Latin setting of the Novus Ordo would be pretty cool. I bet the college kids would eat it up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)
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139 I have a request. I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Prayers. May you find a new job swiftly.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Prayers. May you find a new job swiftly.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:43 AM (WDjG6)
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Prayers OldBob.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:44 AM (cYBz/)
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That uses a 'chord or note' and figures out probability wise using previous songs what the next pleasing 'chord or note' will be. Ditto with lyrics (rhyming dictionaries anyone?).
I haven't played with generative AI, but lets stipulate that AI is based on the most recent, probabilistic sequence in a pattern.
Could AI generate Post-Modern graphical art, architecture, poetry or music? It would seem that PoMo capitalizes on a pastiche of artistic elements, in a way preferring the discordant or ironic pairings that intentionally defies traditional and orderly patterns.
That is why PoMo anything is ugly, unpleasant and disturbing.
I haven't played with generative AI, but lets stipulate that AI is based on the most recent, probabilistic sequence in a pattern.
Could AI generate Post-Modern graphical art, architecture, poetry or music? It would seem that PoMo capitalizes on a pastiche of artistic elements, in a way preferring the discordant or ironic pairings that intentionally defies traditional and orderly patterns.
That is why PoMo anything is ugly, unpleasant and disturbing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:45 AM (a4flb)
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AI is a computer. Nothing more. We cannot animate the inanimate.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 22, 2025 09:46 AM (XvL8K)
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Liam Neeson has recorded the Rosary, so you can say it with him, which would be pretty cool.
I'll bet there's a version where Neeson uses his 'Taken' voice. That would be epic.
I'll bet there's a version where Neeson uses his 'Taken' voice. That would be epic.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:47 AM (cYBz/)
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That is why PoMo anything is ugly, unpleasant and disturbing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:45 AM
Stay in your lane, pal.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 09:45 AM
Stay in your lane, pal.
Posted by: Nekkid lardass sitting on an ottoman at November 22, 2025 09:48 AM (XQo4F)
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Liam Neeson has recorded the Rosary, so you can say it with him, which would be pretty cool.
God has a particular set of skills?
God has a particular set of skills?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 22, 2025 09:49 AM (OyOhQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2025 09:50 AM (bnOop)
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Mistakes often killed people, bad personal choices led to ruin without redemption (broke often meant starvation or worse), and so on.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (WDjG6)
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Their parents knew a time before antibiotics when minor injuries could kill you. They lived through war, economic devastation and pestilence. Their kids grew up in relative peace and unprecedented prosperity, and they deeply resented the silly walls put up around them, and dedicated their lives to tearing them down.
This is why there is a bit of generational warfare, because their children are now at a point where they have enough life experience to compare their decisions with their parents' as well as their grandparents' and it isn't a good look.
It's not a spoiled kid demanding more treats (which is what is usually claimed) but parents realizing just how messed up their own childhood was in terms of morals, boundaries and rampant divorce saying "What were you thinking?! You had paradise and threw it away! Your parents sacrificed for you and you spit on them, hating everything they stood for!"
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (WDjG6)
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Their parents knew a time before antibiotics when minor injuries could kill you. They lived through war, economic devastation and pestilence. Their kids grew up in relative peace and unprecedented prosperity, and they deeply resented the silly walls put up around them, and dedicated their lives to tearing them down.
This is why there is a bit of generational warfare, because their children are now at a point where they have enough life experience to compare their decisions with their parents' as well as their grandparents' and it isn't a good look.
It's not a spoiled kid demanding more treats (which is what is usually claimed) but parents realizing just how messed up their own childhood was in terms of morals, boundaries and rampant divorce saying "What were you thinking?! You had paradise and threw it away! Your parents sacrificed for you and you spit on them, hating everything they stood for!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:50 AM (ZOv7s)
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Thanks, all. Please include my co-worker Steve who is in the same situation.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:50 AM (3nLb4)
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I'll bet there's a version where Neeson uses his 'Taken' voice. That would be epic.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:47 AM (cYBz/)
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He should read Revelation in that voice.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:47 AM (cYBz/)
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He should read Revelation in that voice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)
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"What were you thinking?! You had paradise and threw it away!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
There's more than a few parallels to Eve here.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
There's more than a few parallels to Eve here.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:52 AM (cYBz/)
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>>AI is pattern recognition which relies on probability distributions of 'tokens'. The 'tokens' vary by field--visual--it would be a 'pixel', a 'color', etc. Sound, it would a 'frequency', a 'note', a 'word (if lyrics)', a 'rhyme'. Note that all of these can work on a probability function to predict for example the color of a pixel next to a green one in the abstract AI command of "make me a tree in summer". Or make me a country song (Billy Joel once pissed off people by noting country songs are relatively simple melodically and lyrically).
Do, a deer, a female deer
Fa, a long, long way to run
AI can never replace the divine spark of God.
Do, a deer, a female deer
Fa, a long, long way to run
AI can never replace the divine spark of God.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2025 09:53 AM (viF8m)
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Mistakes often killed people, bad personal choices led to ruin without redemption (broke often meant starvation or worse), and so on.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (WDjG6)
I’ve been thinking along these lines lately, but in terms of cities and nations. We’ve witnessed a great worldwide boom time since WW2 ended (for us, all of our lifetimes) and most don’t realize that’s now over, at least for some, not all. Nations are no longer going to be insulated from the cost of their bad decisions, and neither will cities. Detroit, for example, has already died, and although it’s recovered a bit, it will never be more than a shadow of what it once was. Many American cities are headed down the same path.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 09:42 AM (WDjG6)
I’ve been thinking along these lines lately, but in terms of cities and nations. We’ve witnessed a great worldwide boom time since WW2 ended (for us, all of our lifetimes) and most don’t realize that’s now over, at least for some, not all. Nations are no longer going to be insulated from the cost of their bad decisions, and neither will cities. Detroit, for example, has already died, and although it’s recovered a bit, it will never be more than a shadow of what it once was. Many American cities are headed down the same path.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 09:53 AM (/ZNPI)
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Could AI generate Post-Modern graphical art, architecture, poetry or music? It would seem that PoMo capitalizes on a pastiche of artistic elements, in a way preferring the discordant or ironic pairings that intentionally defies traditional and orderly patterns.
Computers can do randomness. Well, pseudo-randomness anyway which is close enough for most purposes.
Computers can do randomness. Well, pseudo-randomness anyway which is close enough for most purposes.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 09:53 AM (3nLb4)
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Liam Newsome has publicly denied the claims that he became a Muslim.
This right here is how the Game of Internetz is played.
Not a thing to actually get Neeson off the hook, but we have now netted Newsome into the Muslim conspiracy. Oh, well spun.
A Great Darkness is being thrown.
This right here is how the Game of Internetz is played.
Not a thing to actually get Neeson off the hook, but we have now netted Newsome into the Muslim conspiracy. Oh, well spun.
A Great Darkness is being thrown.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 22, 2025 09:53 AM (zdLoL)
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147 Please pray for peace in Chicago. It's getting harder to stay here.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (kJH1Z)
I don't know what options you have, but this may be a sign that you need to take one of them.
We miss the mountains, but we are soooo glad to have left Colorado when we did. We still have family there, but we wish we could visit them without going to Colorado.
Posted by: Lars at November 22, 2025 09:32 AM (kJH1Z)
I don't know what options you have, but this may be a sign that you need to take one of them.
We miss the mountains, but we are soooo glad to have left Colorado when we did. We still have family there, but we wish we could visit them without going to Colorado.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at November 22, 2025 09:54 AM (FMtrg)
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I found out yesterday that my job is going away at the end of December. We are a one income family.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Prayers for you and your family.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Prayers for you and your family.
Posted by: screaming in digital at November 22, 2025 09:54 AM (T52c5)
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Bras were optional. Apparently.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2025 09:40 AM (NwnyJ)
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Some of that may have been the onset of puberty combined with parents not really willing to accept it and take appropriate steps.
Some girls, uncomfortable with the changes, also resist accepting them. Others immediately adopt the bra.
The ones to watch out for were the college chicks letting the puppies roam freely.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2025 09:40 AM (NwnyJ)
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Some of that may have been the onset of puberty combined with parents not really willing to accept it and take appropriate steps.
Some girls, uncomfortable with the changes, also resist accepting them. Others immediately adopt the bra.
The ones to watch out for were the college chicks letting the puppies roam freely.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:55 AM (ZOv7s)
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Look, the cities are never going to improve. The old cycles are over, and it's all down hill now. The largest mass migration in US history is finally tapering off, but it's not going to end for awhile, and these cities are only going to become more Detroit-y and Baltimoorish as time marches on.
They're also getting darker blue every day as a result of it, at the precise moment the Left is shifting gears into full totalitarianism.
These are not places you want to be in as all this develops. Cut and run if it's at all possible for you to get out. Don't be caught there when the lights go out.
They're also getting darker blue every day as a result of it, at the precise moment the Left is shifting gears into full totalitarianism.
These are not places you want to be in as all this develops. Cut and run if it's at all possible for you to get out. Don't be caught there when the lights go out.
Posted by: Islamoradon't at November 22, 2025 09:56 AM (BI5O2)
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Prayer up, Oddbob.
Posted by: Bulg at November 22, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)
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Happy birthday Rosasharn! I would twirl for the occasion, but don't want to fall on my ass.
Praise God for grammie's progress and hope!
Duke Lowell, so glad you are recovering. Might I suggest modeling your new wardrobe at the next MoMe for Piper to critique?
Praise God for grammie's progress and hope!
Duke Lowell, so glad you are recovering. Might I suggest modeling your new wardrobe at the next MoMe for Piper to critique?
Posted by: screaming in digital at November 22, 2025 09:58 AM (T52c5)
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96 I actually don't remember the last drug test I had to take. Wait, yes I do; when I was applying to work for the courier company in '78. Since my only drug then (and later) was alcohol, nothing got flagged. I went on to work for that company for almost nine years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 09:01 AM
The last couple of jobs have required drug tests, I think because the agency I was working for required the one a couple of years ago and the HR company that my current employer uses required the other. It doesn't matter because caffeine is my mood altering substance of choice, although less now than it used to be.
I know a fellow that drank so much coffee that his employer invoked their substance abuse policy on him so he could get help.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 22, 2025 09:01 AM
The last couple of jobs have required drug tests, I think because the agency I was working for required the one a couple of years ago and the HR company that my current employer uses required the other. It doesn't matter because caffeine is my mood altering substance of choice, although less now than it used to be.
I know a fellow that drank so much coffee that his employer invoked their substance abuse policy on him so he could get help.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 22, 2025 09:58 AM (VmDLh)
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We still have family there, but we wish we could visit them without going to Colorado.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and
I have to go to Denver a couple times a year for work. I bitterly resent it every time, but it is a great reminder of what I left behind, and it's worse every time than the last, and it fills me with gratitude every time I board an aircraft to come home.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and
I have to go to Denver a couple times a year for work. I bitterly resent it every time, but it is a great reminder of what I left behind, and it's worse every time than the last, and it fills me with gratitude every time I board an aircraft to come home.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 22, 2025 10:00 AM (BI5O2)
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You know, I have to say: Given a choice between the flu and a cold, I'll take the flu. Sure you might feel worse, but only for a few days. Colds last forever.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 22, 2025 10:00 AM (bss/y)
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My guess is that the sheer blouse that the young lady in question wore was meant to be worn over a camisole or a dress as an accent piece. Being in junior high, she may not have realized that.
Then again, she might have known exactly what she was doing, but wore a sweater or coat over it before appearing in front of Mom and Dad at the breakfast table.
A LOT of girls that age will wear one thing when leaving the house while carrying something in their backpack that they know the parental units will not approve of to change into once they get to school.
Especially if they have a test early in the school day that they haven't studied for, or an assignment due which they didn't complete.
Ask me how I know....
Then again, she might have known exactly what she was doing, but wore a sweater or coat over it before appearing in front of Mom and Dad at the breakfast table.
A LOT of girls that age will wear one thing when leaving the house while carrying something in their backpack that they know the parental units will not approve of to change into once they get to school.
Especially if they have a test early in the school day that they haven't studied for, or an assignment due which they didn't complete.
Ask me how I know....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 22, 2025 10:00 AM (SRRAx)
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There's more than a few parallels to Eve here.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:52 AM (cYBz/)
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Over the past few years I've really gotten to know my father, who was always very reserved. He's now happy to talk about everything, it he still carries a grudge about the time his mother found and threw away his Playboy that he bought with his own money.
I think he expected me to sympathize since I was known to peruse the magazine due to his subscription, but I said I agreed with her. "It's your money, but it was her house, and she controls what goes into it. If my kids bring smut into the house, I'm throwing it out, too!"
I think he felt his parents' faith was smothering, constraining him. What he didn't understand was that having no constraints is much, much worse. Where are the lines? What is permitted? How do I know what is right and what is not?
There was an article in a recent issue of First Things touching on the cruelty of "letting" (actually *making*) children build their own moral framework from scratch while they're growing up.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 09:52 AM (cYBz/)
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Over the past few years I've really gotten to know my father, who was always very reserved. He's now happy to talk about everything, it he still carries a grudge about the time his mother found and threw away his Playboy that he bought with his own money.
I think he expected me to sympathize since I was known to peruse the magazine due to his subscription, but I said I agreed with her. "It's your money, but it was her house, and she controls what goes into it. If my kids bring smut into the house, I'm throwing it out, too!"
I think he felt his parents' faith was smothering, constraining him. What he didn't understand was that having no constraints is much, much worse. Where are the lines? What is permitted? How do I know what is right and what is not?
There was an article in a recent issue of First Things touching on the cruelty of "letting" (actually *making*) children build their own moral framework from scratch while they're growing up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)
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I’ve also been thinking about civil war, not in terms of America but about places like Iran, or Germany, or even England. Of course civil war is horrible, but there’s a worse fate than that - and that is for everyone to just kick back and say “oh well nothing can be done.”
The worst fate of all is for no one to lift a finger while the nation just grinds down into a total collapse, as happened to the USSR. The three nations I named are all on that glide path now, and I believe each of them has now crossed a point of no return - collapse is now inevitable for each of them.
The worst fate of all is for no one to lift a finger while the nation just grinds down into a total collapse, as happened to the USSR. The three nations I named are all on that glide path now, and I believe each of them has now crossed a point of no return - collapse is now inevitable for each of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2025 10:01 AM (/ZNPI)
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I don't think you can find one in ten Catholics who can explain Vatican II. I know I can't. If it was meant to re-invigorate the Church, it signally failed.
A thought experiment:
Billy Graham popularized something in the 1950s that was called "ecumenical evangelism" which was to bring in Roman Catholics into the Wild West of Evangelicalism under the premise that the unchurched could be manipulated into The Kingdom if the right words and emotional atmosphere was present in large crowds.
The Catholic clergy and lay leaders saw the remarkable success in the numbers coming forward and saw that people were more interested in Big Box's Wham Bam Jesus Jam (that and Boomer/Hippie movement to syncretize sexualized secularism into the Church) that the competition required a reaction
And that is how Vatican II began: Aggiornamento meant "keeping up with the Big Box Joneses"
A thought experiment:
Billy Graham popularized something in the 1950s that was called "ecumenical evangelism" which was to bring in Roman Catholics into the Wild West of Evangelicalism under the premise that the unchurched could be manipulated into The Kingdom if the right words and emotional atmosphere was present in large crowds.
The Catholic clergy and lay leaders saw the remarkable success in the numbers coming forward and saw that people were more interested in Big Box's Wham Bam Jesus Jam (that and Boomer/Hippie movement to syncretize sexualized secularism into the Church) that the competition required a reaction
And that is how Vatican II began: Aggiornamento meant "keeping up with the Big Box Joneses"
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:02 AM (a4flb)
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He should read Revelation in that voice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)
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And behold, I saw a pale horse. And his name that sat upon him was Death and he had a particular set of skills…
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)
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And behold, I saw a pale horse. And his name that sat upon him was Death and he had a particular set of skills…
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2025 10:03 AM (u73oe)
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AHL - yes, quite. Most of my kids would ask permission to do the most outrageous things in front of their friends. I, of course, said "Hell no."
I didn't realize it until much later, and maybe they didn't either, that deep down, they wanted me to say no and explicitly provide direction or structure.
I didn't realize it until much later, and maybe they didn't either, that deep down, they wanted me to say no and explicitly provide direction or structure.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)
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>>> There was an article in a recent issue of First Things touching on the cruelty of "letting" (actually *making*) children build their own moral framework from scratch while they're growing up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)
Chesterton's Orthodoxy touches on this a bit in parts.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)
Chesterton's Orthodoxy touches on this a bit in parts.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:06 AM (3uBP9)
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Oddbob a prayer for peace in your house
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2025 10:08 AM (A0sqA)
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The last couple of jobs have required drug tests, I think because the agency I was working for required the one a couple of years ago and the HR company that my current employer uses required the other. It doesn't matter because caffeine is my mood altering substance of choice, although less now than it used to be.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 22, 2025 09:58 AM (VmDLh)
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One of the joys of being a junior NCO was that you were now qualified to be a monitor for Operation Golden Flow, aka the Wiz Quiz.
This also meant one had to become something of a Piss Whisperer since many men cannot relieve themselves under observation. I know, shocking for anyone who his written his name in the snow, but it's a thing. Flushing toilets, keeping a light stream of water flowing in the sink and - at last resort - describing waterfalls, bubbling streams, gushing rivers in full flood - were enough to induce most sufferers to fill the damn jar and let me get to back to work.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 22, 2025 09:58 AM (VmDLh)
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One of the joys of being a junior NCO was that you were now qualified to be a monitor for Operation Golden Flow, aka the Wiz Quiz.
This also meant one had to become something of a Piss Whisperer since many men cannot relieve themselves under observation. I know, shocking for anyone who his written his name in the snow, but it's a thing. Flushing toilets, keeping a light stream of water flowing in the sink and - at last resort - describing waterfalls, bubbling streams, gushing rivers in full flood - were enough to induce most sufferers to fill the damn jar and let me get to back to work.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:09 AM (ZOv7s)
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Chesterton's Orthodoxy touches on this a bit in parts.
This Chesterton dude has some interesting ideas. Does he have a podcast I can subscribe to?
-- Based Millenials.
This Chesterton dude has some interesting ideas. Does he have a podcast I can subscribe to?
-- Based Millenials.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 22, 2025 10:09 AM (3nLb4)
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I got a Popeye's fully cooked turkey in the oven. Should be done in a couple hours.
This year I'm going full hobbit and having First Thanksgiving (today) and Second Thanksgiving (Thursday).
This year I'm going full hobbit and having First Thanksgiving (today) and Second Thanksgiving (Thursday).
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 22, 2025 10:09 AM (kpS4V)
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The ones to watch out for were the college chicks letting the puppies roam freely.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:55 AM (ZOv7s)
You betchya I watched out for them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 09:55 AM (ZOv7s)
You betchya I watched out for them.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (g8Ew8)
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The worst fate of all is for no one to lift a finger while the nation just grinds down into a total collapse, as happened to the USSR.
It is inevitable. Human Nature. The US is doomed to the exact same fate. It is inescapable outside of the mother of all Great Revivals.
The American Experiment demands a self-regulating, faith based population. And by faith, I'm talking the One True Faith of Christianity.
When the inevitable occurs, the US doesn't just disappear, the smoldering ruins and the miserable population (to some degree) still remain, it just forms into warring factions led by charismatic war lords - as has ALL civilizations has been doing.
The US CAN NOT continue as a Constitutional Republic because it doesn't have a sustainable saturation of morally sufficient citizens to override the demonic impulses of the general population.
It is inevitable. Human Nature. The US is doomed to the exact same fate. It is inescapable outside of the mother of all Great Revivals.
The American Experiment demands a self-regulating, faith based population. And by faith, I'm talking the One True Faith of Christianity.
When the inevitable occurs, the US doesn't just disappear, the smoldering ruins and the miserable population (to some degree) still remain, it just forms into warring factions led by charismatic war lords - as has ALL civilizations has been doing.
The US CAN NOT continue as a Constitutional Republic because it doesn't have a sustainable saturation of morally sufficient citizens to override the demonic impulses of the general population.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (a4flb)
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I didn't realize it until much later, and maybe they didn't either, that deep down, they wanted me to say no and explicitly provide direction or structure.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)
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Kids continually test boundaries as they grow up, and they unconsciously want them confirmed. The harder they push, the more they need reassurance. It was interesting when my eldest reached the point where she understood what was going on and flipped from being the ringleader of rebellion to my chief enforcer, to the utter amazement of her sisters.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)
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Kids continually test boundaries as they grow up, and they unconsciously want them confirmed. The harder they push, the more they need reassurance. It was interesting when my eldest reached the point where she understood what was going on and flipped from being the ringleader of rebellion to my chief enforcer, to the utter amazement of her sisters.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)
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Their parents knew a time before antibiotics when minor injuries could kill you. They lived through war, economic devastation and pestilence. Their kids grew up in relative peace and unprecedented prosperity, and they deeply resented the silly walls put up around them, and dedicated their lives to tearing them down.
This is why there is a bit of generational warfare, because their children are now at a point where they have enough life experience to compare their decisions with their parents' as well as their grandparents' and it isn't a good look.
It's not a spoiled kid demanding more treats (which is what is usually claimed) but parents realizing just how messed up their own childhood was in terms of morals, boundaries and rampant divorce saying "What were you thinking?! You had paradise and threw it away! Your parents sacrificed for you and you spit on them, hating everything they stood for!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I think that is a very fair reading of the issues.
This is why there is a bit of generational warfare, because their children are now at a point where they have enough life experience to compare their decisions with their parents' as well as their grandparents' and it isn't a good look.
It's not a spoiled kid demanding more treats (which is what is usually claimed) but parents realizing just how messed up their own childhood was in terms of morals, boundaries and rampant divorce saying "What were you thinking?! You had paradise and threw it away! Your parents sacrificed for you and you spit on them, hating everything they stood for!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I think that is a very fair reading of the issues.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 10:13 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 22, 2025 10:13 AM (u82oZ)
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"...and these cities are only going to become more Detroit-y and Baltimoorish as time marches on."
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Found myself in Shreveport, Louisiana recently (in search of Cajun food) as part of my pilgrimage to Corsicana.
Wow. Pottersville. Casinos and strip clubs and no free public parking.
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Found myself in Shreveport, Louisiana recently (in search of Cajun food) as part of my pilgrimage to Corsicana.
Wow. Pottersville. Casinos and strip clubs and no free public parking.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 22, 2025 10:14 AM (XQo4F)
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You betchya I watched out for them.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (g8Ew
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Picture a young blonde with a perky rack confined only by the thin fabric of an undersized red t-shirt with the word "TURGID" printed on the front.
Right out of Dan Jenkins, but it really happened.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (g8Ew
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Picture a young blonde with a perky rack confined only by the thin fabric of an undersized red t-shirt with the word "TURGID" printed on the front.
Right out of Dan Jenkins, but it really happened.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 22, 2025 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)
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The US CAN NOT continue as a Constitutional Republic because it doesn't have a sustainable saturation of morally sufficient citizens to override the demonic impulses of the general population.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (a4flb)
I would argue the demonic impulses aren't coming from the general poopulation, but from the so-called leaders in multiple fields, who abdicated the responsibilities, who manipulated for their own ends, who have so corrupted themselves that it inevitably infects the weaker and more vulnerable people, who would otherwise just go about living "normal" lives.
We are doomed, because the power of man, as it always does, corrupts. From the top down.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:10 AM (a4flb)
I would argue the demonic impulses aren't coming from the general poopulation, but from the so-called leaders in multiple fields, who abdicated the responsibilities, who manipulated for their own ends, who have so corrupted themselves that it inevitably infects the weaker and more vulnerable people, who would otherwise just go about living "normal" lives.
We are doomed, because the power of man, as it always does, corrupts. From the top down.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2025 10:15 AM (S7UOD)
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I’ve been thinking along these lines lately, but in terms of cities and nations. We’ve witnessed a great worldwide boom time since WW2 ended (for us, all of our lifetimes) and most don’t realize that’s now over, at least for some, not all. Nations are no longer going to be insulated from the cost of their bad decisions, and neither will cities. Detroit, for example, has already died, and although it’s recovered a bit, it will never be more than a shadow of what it once was. Many American cities are headed down the same path.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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History of archaeology shows us that cities (and nations themselves) rise and then fall and sometimes rise again if the external factors that led it to rise in the first place are still there. We have no reason to assume that our current modern era is an exception to the rule.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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History of archaeology shows us that cities (and nations themselves) rise and then fall and sometimes rise again if the external factors that led it to rise in the first place are still there. We have no reason to assume that our current modern era is an exception to the rule.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 10:15 AM (WDjG6)
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"It's your money, but it was her house, and she controls what goes into it. If my kids bring smut into the house, I'm throwing it out, too!"
One of the greatest pieces of advice I was granted:
"A man lives in his wife's house."
One of the greatest pieces of advice I was granted:
"A man lives in his wife's house."
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:15 AM (a4flb)
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I'm talking the One True Faith of Christianity.
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I'm Christian, but I think that statement is bullshit.
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I'm Christian, but I think that statement is bullshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 22, 2025 10:15 AM (g8Ew8)
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Good morning, NaCly!
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I didn't realize it until much later, and maybe they didn't either, that deep down, they wanted me to say no and explicitly provide direction or structure.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)
I try not to yell at my kids much, and save that for when it really matters - I don't want it to lose its impact.
But I have noticed with my youngest a certain pattern of behaviors where, when she's doing it, it's because she *wants* to be yelled at. When I see her going down that road, I just pretend to get mad and I yell at her, and she immediately stops whatever it is, pretends to cry for five seconds, apologizes, and then trots off to her toys and starts giggling the moment she thinks I'm not listening.
She's just looking for boundaries and it's comforting for her to find them. I wasn't like that as a kid, so it took me awhile to recognize it, but that seems to be the psychological thing at play with her.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)
I try not to yell at my kids much, and save that for when it really matters - I don't want it to lose its impact.
But I have noticed with my youngest a certain pattern of behaviors where, when she's doing it, it's because she *wants* to be yelled at. When I see her going down that road, I just pretend to get mad and I yell at her, and she immediately stops whatever it is, pretends to cry for five seconds, apologizes, and then trots off to her toys and starts giggling the moment she thinks I'm not listening.
She's just looking for boundaries and it's comforting for her to find them. I wasn't like that as a kid, so it took me awhile to recognize it, but that seems to be the psychological thing at play with her.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 22, 2025 10:17 AM (BI5O2)
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177 Could AI generate Post-Modern graphical art, architecture, poetry or music? It would seem that PoMo capitalizes on a pastiche of artistic elements, in a way preferring the discordant or ironic pairings that intentionally defies traditional and orderly patterns.
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The uncanny valley says that you are correct. Humans somehow know the artificial without prompting.
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The uncanny valley says that you are correct. Humans somehow know the artificial without prompting.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (WDjG6)
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A few pee tests ago, during a drug test and then a health screening I couldn't pee on command. Never had this problem before. Getting old sucks. Anyway, now if I know I have a test I will drink GALLONS of waters before hand and walk in with crossed legs shaking.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (3uBP9)
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So it's a pee thread?
Posted by: Just got here at November 22, 2025 10:19 AM (XQo4F)
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>>> So it's a pee thread?
Posted by: Just got here at November 22, 2025 10:19 AM (XQo4F)
Always was
Posted by: Just got here at November 22, 2025 10:19 AM (XQo4F)
Always was
Posted by: Astronaut floating behind you at November 22, 2025 10:21 AM (3uBP9)
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Oddbob, what type of work do you do?
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 22, 2025 10:22 AM (VCgbV)
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A few pee tests ago, during a drug test and then a health screening I couldn't pee on command. Never had this problem before. Getting old sucks. Anyway, now if I know I have a test I will drink GALLONS of waters before hand and walk in with crossed legs shaking.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (3uBP9)
Too much water dilutes the sample, and cause the result to be unreliable.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (3uBP9)
Too much water dilutes the sample, and cause the result to be unreliable.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2025 10:22 AM (2SL7L)
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214 A few pee tests ago, during a drug test and then a health screening I couldn't pee on command. Never had this problem before. Getting old sucks. Anyway, now if I know I have a test I will drink GALLONS of waters before hand and walk in with crossed legs shaking.
Posted by: banana Dream
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Have your prostate checked. A prostate sizing (to check for enlargement) is fairly easy to do with ultrasound test. Sometimes then the problem actually can be bladder obstruction etc. The scope inserted up the penis is uncomfortable to check for that but not as horrible as people like to make out. Better than Foley catherization for a long time.
Posted by: banana Dream
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Have your prostate checked. A prostate sizing (to check for enlargement) is fairly easy to do with ultrasound test. Sometimes then the problem actually can be bladder obstruction etc. The scope inserted up the penis is uncomfortable to check for that but not as horrible as people like to make out. Better than Foley catherization for a long time.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2025 10:22 AM (WDjG6)
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I would argue the demonic impulses aren't coming from the general poopulation, but from the so-called leaders in multiple fields,
There is a social zeitgeist - that is, a "spirit of the age" and not just the materialist's idea of "spirit", but a prevalent spiritual domination.
Consider that maybe 5% of the population is even aware of the activities of Babylon DC or City Hall, most people can't name but two or three SCOTUS jurists, a very significant portion of the population, for decades could not name the vice president, can't enumerate the branches of government; a majority has never read the Constitution, the DoI or even a paragraph of any Federalist Papers.
That is, the single black mother of 9 kids who twerks for attention in TikTok doesn't get her orders from Babylon DC, she and her cohort work to game the system as it is to exploit and extract the most money as possible. That is it for political involvment. Everything else is rather lizard brained in meeting felt needs.
There is a social zeitgeist - that is, a "spirit of the age" and not just the materialist's idea of "spirit", but a prevalent spiritual domination.
Consider that maybe 5% of the population is even aware of the activities of Babylon DC or City Hall, most people can't name but two or three SCOTUS jurists, a very significant portion of the population, for decades could not name the vice president, can't enumerate the branches of government; a majority has never read the Constitution, the DoI or even a paragraph of any Federalist Papers.
That is, the single black mother of 9 kids who twerks for attention in TikTok doesn't get her orders from Babylon DC, she and her cohort work to game the system as it is to exploit and extract the most money as possible. That is it for political involvment. Everything else is rather lizard brained in meeting felt needs.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 22, 2025 10:22 AM (a4flb)
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Anyway, now if I know I have a test I will drink GALLONS of waters before hand and walk in with crossed legs shaking.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (3uBP9)
Don't.
Low creatinine count will force a retake. Worse, some employers consider it the same as a hot UA, on the assumption you're deliberately diluting the sample to cover up drug use.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2025 10:18 AM (3uBP9)
Don't.
Low creatinine count will force a retake. Worse, some employers consider it the same as a hot UA, on the assumption you're deliberately diluting the sample to cover up drug use.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 22, 2025 10:23 AM (BI5O2)
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Oddbob that's tough, but keep a look out there.
Good luck
Good luck
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2025 10:23 AM (+qU29)
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History
Reveals again and again
How nature points out the folly of men.
Where 'Godzilla' can represent our hubris.
Reveals again and again
How nature points out the folly of men.
Where 'Godzilla' can represent our hubris.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2025 10:24 AM (cYBz/)
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I'm talking the One True Faith of Christianity.
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I'm Christian, but I think that statement is bullshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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How so?
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I'm Christian, but I think that statement is bullshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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How so?
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