Support




Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Powered by
Movable Type





Two Partisan Hacks Ignored Supreme Court Precedent to Claim the Texas Redistricting Map Was Illegal.
Judge Smith Dissents

And what a dissent.

Jerry E. Smith, Circuit Judge, dissenting:

"Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night!"

I dissent from the entirety of Judge Brown's opinion granting a
preliminary injunction.

* * * * *
PRELIMINARY STATEMENT

I append this Preliminary Statement to dispel any suspicion that I'm
responsible for any delay in issuing the preliminary injunction or that I am or saw
slow-walking the ruling. I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial
misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown.


In my 37 years on the federal bench, this is the most outrageous conduct
by a judge that I have ever encountered in a case in which I have been involved.

In summary, Judge Brown has issued a 160-page opinion without giving
me any reasonable opportunity to respond. I will set forth the details. The
readers can judge for themselves.

This three-judge district court held a nine-day evidentiary hearing/trial
on the motion for preliminary injunction. That hearing was concluded Friday
October 10. The judges immediately retired to confer. Judges Brown and
Guaderrama voted to grant the preliminary injunction. I voted to deny. It was
understood that the majority judges would begin putting together an opinion.
During the next 26 days, there was silence--nary a word from either
judge.

On Wednesday November 5, Judge Brown sent me a 13-page outline of
the expected majority opinion "so that you and your chambers might be able to
begin preparing your dissenting opinion."

Nothing else for a week.

On Wednesday November 12, Judge Brown sent a message stating, "We
currently anticipate issuing our injunction on Saturday, November 15. We will
endeavor to get you a draft before we issue it. Sadly, we do not believe we can
wait for a dissenting opinion before we rule--the fuse is simply too short in light
of Purcell. We will, however, note on the opinion that you are dissenting. We are
not trying to cut you out, we just don't have the time. Ideally, of course, we'd
have liked to have seen your dissent before we issue our opinion, but that will
also be impossible."

So, in other words: They withheld their corrupt and lawless decision from him so that he couldn't construct a dissent, and then rushed out the ruling claiming there was suddenly a big hurry that would not permit him to review it.


Yes, you heard it right. To summarize, in case the reader doesn't get the
point: Judge Brown was announcing that he would issue an opinion three days
later--an opinion that I hadn't even seen and might not be furnished before its
issuance. That is unthinkable, but it occurred--and not accidentally.

I'm omitting further details about this game of hide-the-salami the other judges played with the dissenting judge. See the actual dissent for those details. I want to get to the forest without seeing each stalk of bamboo one-by-one.


This outrage speaks for itself. Any pretense of judicial restraint, good
faith, or trust by these two judges is gone. If these judges were so sure of their
result, they would not have been so unfairly eager to issue the opinion sans my
dissent, or they could have waited for the dissent in order to join issue with it.

What indeed are they afraid of?

Judges on multi-judge courts understand how important is the
deliberative process to fair and accurate judicial decisionmaking. As I say later
in this dissent, judges get paid to disagree as well as to find common ground.
Judges in the majority don't get to tell a dissenting judge or judges that they can't
participate. If the two judges on this panel get away with what they have done,
it sets a horrendous precedent that "might makes right" and the end justifies the
means.

...

When I was a newer on the bench, a friend asked me, "Now that you've
been a judge for a few years, do you have any particular advice?" I replied,
"Always sit with your back to the wall."

Now Judge Smith names names -- specifically, George and Alexander Soros, who are funding this lawsuit and many other lawsuits challenging Republican redistricting.



The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and
Gavin Newsom. The obvious losers are the People of Texas and the Rule of Law.
I dissent.

..

The resulting dissent is far from a literary masterpiece. If, however, there
were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime
candidate.

Judge Brown could have saved himself and the readers a lot of time and
effort by merely stating the following:


I just don't like what the Legislature did here. It was
unnecessary, and it seems unfair to disadvantaged voters. I need
to step in to make sure wiser heads prevail over the nakedly
partisan and racially questionable actions of these zealous
lawmakers. Just as I did to the lawmakers in Galveston County in
Petteway, I'm using my considerable clout as a federal district
judge to put a stop to bad policy judgments. After all, I get paid to
do what I think is right.



In 37 years as a federal judge, I've served on hundreds of three-judge
panels. This is the most blatant exercise of judicial activism that I have ever
witnessed.


There's the old joke: What's the difference between God and a federal
district judge? Answer: God doesn't think he's a federal judge. Or a different
version of that joke: An angel rushes to the head of the Heavenly Host and says,
"We have a problem. God has delusions of grandeur." The head angel calmly
replies, "What makes you say that?" The first angel whispers, "He's wearing
his robe and keeps imagining he's a federal judge."

Only this time, it isn't funny.


I'm omitting another long passage, in which Smith establishes that Judge Brown loves claiming that any Republican redistricting efforts are necessarily racist, and they all must therefore be stopped.

Smith previously dissented in another case of leftwing judges invalidating legislators' redistricting decisions, and the reviewing court found that he was right and the leftwing judges were wrong.

Speaking of fortune: Just a few weeks ago, the Fifth Circuit answered the
main question at hand, holding that "[t]he most obvious reason for mid-cycle
redistricting, of course, is partisan gain.3 The question for this three-judge
district panel is whether the Texas Legislature did its mid-decade congressional
redistricting to gain political advantage or, instead, because the main goal of
Texas's Republican legislators is to slash the voting rights of persons of color.

Once again, here we go again: Criticizing the behavior of DOJ lawyers in
last decade's redistricting battle, I noted the following:


It was obvious, from the start, that the DoJ attorneys viewed
state officials and the legislative majority and their staffs as a
bunch of backwoods hayseed bigots who bemoan the abolition of
the poll tax and pine for the days of literacy tests and lynchings.
And the DoJ lawyers saw themselves as an expeditionary landing
party arriving here, just in time, to rescue the state from
oppression . . . . The [DoJ] moreover views Texas redistricting
litigation as the potential grand prize and lusts for the day when it
can reimpose preclearance via Section 3(c).[4]

"Preclearance" is the old regime in which southern states -- states of the former Confederacy -- could not change their election laws at all without prior approval -- "pre-clearance" -- from the federal government. This regime was finally ended about ten years ago-- but leftwing judges are trying to bring it back through the back door.

...

Because the "obvious reason" for the 2025 redistricting "of course, is
partisan gain," Judge Brown commits grave error in concluding that the Texas
Legislature is more bigoted than political.

...

It's all politics, on both sides of the partisan aisle. George and Alex Soros
have their hands all over this.

One of the plaintiffs' top experts is Matt Barreto. He is a paid Soros
operative and does not attempt to hide it. His CV confirms it. He expects to
receive $2.5 million6 from George and Alexander Soros. Nor is this something
new. Soros has been pumping money into Barreto's UCLA Voting Rights
Project for years.8 And this steady supply of money won't stop until 2026, at the
earliest. Unsurprisingly, Barreto has been on quite a road show for years,
parading across the country opposing Republican redistricting.

That is the tip of the iceberg. The lawyers are involved as well.

...


To his credit, the lead counsel for plaintiffs does not try to hide it, either.
Chad Dunn acknowledged so in open court--he works with Barreto at the same
Voting Rights Project11 that receives Soros funding. Dunn is a respected attorney
in Texas election law cases, most recently serving as counsel in the Jackson
case,12 in which the Fifth Circuit squarely declared the political nature of mid-
decade redistricting. Mr. Dunn, along with his Voting Rights Project colleague
Sonni Waknin, also represented the plaintiffs before Judge Brown in the Petteway
case, which was overturned by the en banc Fifth Circuit.

Mark Gaber also appeared in Petteway and Jackson. He is the Senior
Redistricting Director at Campaign Legal Center, a Soros-funded group.

It does not stop there. The Elias Law Group draws from the Soros
coffers, too. Counsel for the instant Gonzales plaintiffs, David Fox, is a partner
at Elias, which "has collected more than $104 million" from Democrat Party
committees and donors, including Mr. Soros.15 Firm Chair Marc Elias formed
entities, "tucked inside large existing nonprofits," that "raised tens of millions
of dollars from some of the richest donors on the left--including from
foundations funded by Mr. Soros."

On a silver platter, Judge Brown hands Soros a victory at the expense of
the People of Texas and the Rule of Law. Judge Brown won't tell you that. I
just did.

Relatedly, Gavin Newsom took a victory lap in Houston to celebrate the
Democrat redistricting win with Proposition 50.19 Indeed, he did so "on rival
Gov. Greg Abbott's home turf Saturday and called on other blue states to push
back on a GOP effort to retain control of the U.S. House." And after the
improperly premature issuance of Judge Brown's opinion, the Houston Chronicle
pointed out that Governor Newsom quickly tweeted, "Donald Trump and Greg
Abbott played with fire, got burned -- and democracy won . . . This ruling is a
win for Texas, and for every American who fights for free and fair elections."21
That tells you all that you need to know--this is about partisan politics,
plain and simple.

...

Regardless of one's political slant, it's obvious what Texas is trying to do in 2025. The Republicans' national margin in the House of Representatives is LULAC
so slim that squeezing out a majority might even depend, day-to-day, on whether
some seats are vacant because of deaths or resignations.

In 2021, the Texas Legislature, with both houses controlled by
Republicans, devised a strategy of creating safe seats for both Republicans and
Democrats, but with a decided majority of the state's delegation still Republican.
Whether (as a matter of political clout) that was the wisest strategy is disputed
and indeed was fulsomely debated in 2021.

In mid-2025, the strategy changed: The new plan was to make more seats
winnable for Republicans by moving some Democrats incumbents from their
districts and rendering other districts unwinnable by Democrats. That sacrificed
the wider margins in some of the old districts. The tradeoff is obvious.

There is some speculation that this new strategy will backfire on
Republicans in 2026 because, if they do poorly in the mid-terms, the new
Republican seats created in 2025 will be a Pyrrhic victory, because they will lose
elections in the closer districts. That is purely a matter of political strategy that
federal judges have no business touching.

Apparently, the plaintiffs -- funded by George Soros -- argued that creating fewer but safer Republican seats, as they did in 2021, is obviously the correct political choice for Republicans, so that now that they've decided to go for the incorrect choice -- more seats, but each less defensible -- it can be for no other reason than RACISM.

Not changing political fortunes or strategies. No, it must be Racism. There is no other explanation.


The challenge faced by these plaintiffs The challenge faced by these plaintiffs and Judge Brown is to explain how
it could be that the Republicans would sacrifice their stated goal of political gain
for racial considerations. It makes no sense to advance the notion that the
Republican Legislature would draw districts for the purpose of disadvantaging
racial and ethnic minorities if, by doing so, they lessen the number of new
Republican seats they might gain.

The plaintiffs' theory is both perverse and bizarre. They actually
contend that if the Republicans are sincere about gaining more seats, they could
have drawn not five, but six, seven, or eight additional seats and that the reason
they did not is that the real reason is racial animus.
The absurdity of that notion
speaks for itself. Yet it's all that the plaintiffs and Judge Brown have to offer to
defeat the State's claim that the 2025 lines were drawn for the sake of politics
and not race.

Smith now points out that the Supreme Court seems likely to blow up the whole idea that minorities get special protection in redistricting -- but rather than wait for that coming ruling, the liberals rush to get last licks in.


Judge Brown rushes to issue this injunction before the tension between
Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and racial-gerrymandering jurisprudence is
resolved by the Supreme Court in the currently-pending Callais case. Given
Judge Brown's creative read of the facts and novel approach to the law, he should
have considered denying this injunction for that reason alone, recognizing that a
fundamental shift in voting-rights jurisprudence is not unlikely. Because the
power to stay proceedings "is incidental to the power inherent in every court to
control the disposition of the causes on its docket with economy of time and
effort for itself, for counsel, and for litigants," it would have been well within the
authority of this three-judge court.

The fact that Callais may fundamentally change the nature of this case
also weighs in favor of a stay. It is reckless for this court to proceed with opining
on the merits, which amounts to nothing more than a general guess as to whether
existing voting-rights jurisprudence will survive Callais.

* * * * *

Judge Brown has a lingering habit. He correctly recites part of a legal
principle, then veers off track along a spectrum--intentionally misleading at best
to false at worst. The opinion is replete with selectively copying and pasting parts
of legal rules or standards. Beyond that, things get dicey.

This holds especially for Judge Brown's discussion of the standard for
preliminary injunctions.

He points out that Brown first correctly states the first criterion for an injunction -- a "substantial likelihood of success on the merits" (after a full trial)-- but then immediately omits the "substantial" part and just rules that the Soros plaintiffs are merely likely to win.

A modifier like "substantial" is meant to limit injunctions to only cases where the outcome is barely arguable, and the ultimate ruling mostly fore-ordained.

Instead, Brown just says he thinks one side will probably win and boom, there's your injunction.

...

He should give less consideration to the omission and more consideration
to the actual words on the page. Judge Brown accurately cuts and pastes the
following: A preliminary injunction is "an extraordinary and drastic remedy
which should not be granted unless the movant clearly carries the burden of
persuasion," and the likelihood of success on the merits is "the most important"
factor of the framework.

But the cut-and-paste job is selective. Judge Brown left out the fact that,
giving attention to the relevant cases cited in Jackson, "the most important" factor
language in Jackson27 is a direct quote from Mock v. Garland.28 And any cursory
reading of Mock easily reveals that the word "substantial"29 (the word Judge
Brown tries to avoid) is part of the first factor in no uncertain terms: "a
substantial likelihood of success on the merits."

Judge Brown doesn't tell you that. I just did.

The opinion is caught in an illogical straitjacket from which it cannot
escape.

...

This is intentionally misleading at best, disingenuously false at worst.

There he goes again.


...

If this is not judicial activism, I am not sure what would be.

...


If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an "F."

Remember that recent Fifth Circuit redistricting case, the one that Judge
Brown said was procedurally and factually analogous to the instant one. Judge
Brown conveniently omits the key sentence in that mid-decade redistricting
case: The "most obvious reason for mid-cycle redistricting, of course, is partisan
gain." Judge Brown doesn't even pretend to grapple with Justice Stevens's
relevant quote. It is far from a mere coincidence that the opinion goes to the
mats over the omission of one word, when it suits the results-driven outcome,
but overlooks the most significant sentence about the most obvious reason for
mid-decade redistricting, which is partisan gain.

The combined weight of the procedural and substantive law is against
what these plaintiffs and Judge Brown are trying to do. Not only do plaintiffs
have to show clearly that they are entitled to the drastic and extraordinary remedy
of an injunction, but they must also do so when Supreme Court and Fifth Circuit
precedent is stacked against them. Nothing in any bag of results-oriented tricks
can save that wished-for result.

Judge Brown is an unskilled magician. The audience knows what is
coming next.


...

This panel decides both law and fact. The salient issue of fact is whether
the Legislature drew the new lines on account of race. The answer is easy: It
did not. And that question is not even close.

Did I forget to mention: "The most obvious reason for mid-cycle
redistricting, of course, is partisan gain."

He notes the testimony of the man who used statistical analysis to redraw the maps -- and his testimony is that the maps are based on R vs. D partisan analysis, not race.

Judge Brown ignores all of this to find the "fact" that the maps are based on race.

This order, replete with legal and factual error, and accompanied by
naked procedural abuse, demands reversal.

* * * * *

Darkness descends on the Rule of Law. A bumpy night, indeed.

My take? Judge Smith's argument is sturdy and strong, built from the tallest, straightest bamboo.

The fire in this dissent, and the revelation that the other judges are naked partisans who never find a Republican election move they can't overrule, gives me some hope that the Supreme Court will stay this lawless injunction -- again -- and deal the Soroses a well-deserved loss.

Posted by: Ace at 05:50 PM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 1

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2025 05:50 PM (+qU29)

2 "Unprecedented" is only bad when Trump does something.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 05:53 PM (krQz2)

3 From earlier, there's no way that there's only 150,000 foreign born in Charlotte. It's at least 250,000. At least.

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2025 05:53 PM (uQzkA)

4 Congress could act of course, these courts ate creatures of Congress.

But they won't. Class protects class.

Until there is no more protection.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2025 05:54 PM (A0sqA)

5 This is a Trump's fault

- some rando no name poster

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 19, 2025 05:54 PM (CQ8KO)

6 Jerry E. Smith. Sounds like a cracker name.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 19, 2025 05:54 PM (L/fGl)

7 The news might’ve been crap today but I see CBD delivered for the art thread. CBD, you understood the assignment and gave it 200% (400% ?). I salute you sir.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (3uBP9)

8 There is iron in Judge Smith's dissent.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (TN0g+)

9 >>Judges Brown and Guaderrama


These two should be thoroughly Tarred and Feathered before being run out of the Country on Rails.


Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (rO4EG)

10 sorry this took a lot longer than I thought it would. the dissent is 120 pages long. I'll try to trim it more.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (1wjle)

11 I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial
misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown.


In my 37 years on the federal bench, this is the most outrageous conduct
by a judge that I have ever encountered in a case in which I have been involved.
====

Judge Smith feels exactly as I do having been living in a corrupt one-Party state as long as I have.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2025 05:56 PM (A0sqA)

12
I'll try to trim it more.
Posted by: ace


As you would bamboo, of course.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 19, 2025 05:57 PM (Y9x1x)

13 Trump appointed this piece of shit. How the fuck does this happen?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 05:58 PM (/AUU2)

14 The more the lower court judges and state judges do insane partisan findings , the more likely the SC will in the Louisiana case make a very hard and fast finding . The finding against race based districts will wipe out all of this nonsense.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 05:58 PM (bfwj/)

15 This has already been appealed to SCOTUS who will say....nah bro, this is cool we already have said this is legal twice.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 05:58 PM (0N4FZ)

16
Bamboo...

is like a woman.

It grows. It pleases the eye. It needs attention, from time to time.

But not too much attention, for the bamboo is mostly self-sufficient.

Posted by: Soothsayer waxes poetically for bamboo at November 19, 2025 05:59 PM (Y9x1x)

17 The more the lower court judges and state judges do insane partisan findings , the more likely the SC will in the Louisiana case make a very hard and fast finding . The finding against race based districts will wipe out all of this nonsense.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 05:58 PM (bfwj/)

But will it be in time?

There are already filing deadlines approaching for the 2026 election.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 05:59 PM (/AUU2)

18
So this is just a dissent, not a reversal? I like reversals.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2025 06:01 PM (yr3T9)

19 I have never read anything by a judge that is so completely frazzled.
It is a good tactic if the good judge wants to be heard widely, though. Normally dissents are restrained and scholarly and as quotable as rainfall averages

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2025 06:02 PM (rbvCR)

20 The fire in this dissent, and the revelation that the other judges are naked partisans who never find a Republican election move they can't overrule, gives me some hope that the Supreme Court will stay this lawless injunction -- again -- and deal the Soroses a well-deserved loss.
====

If your legal opinion is overruled by a higher court your ass should get FIRED from the bench. Like non-lawyers who fvck up get fired.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2025 06:02 PM (A0sqA)

21 Judges on multi-judge courts understand how important is the deliberative process to fair and accurate judicial decisionmaking.
---
And they did it anyway. For that sweet Soros money.

Soros money is true democracy!

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:02 PM (krQz2)

22 Judges spanking other judges just seems.... dirty.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 06:02 PM (NwnyJ)

23 Wow. I've read some pointed dissents but that was another level.

I think a substantial part of the country including in the judiciary has had enough of this shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2025 06:03 PM (viF8m)

24 13 Trump appointed this piece of shit. How the fuck does this happen?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 05:58 PM (/AUU2)

Probably a recommendation of the Heritage Foundation who is no friend of Trump's..

Posted by: It's me donna at November 19, 2025 06:03 PM (VE6XX)

25 Governor Newsom quickly tweeted, "Donald Trump and Greg
Abbott played with fire, got burned -- and democracy won . . .

DEMOCRACITITTY WUN!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 19, 2025 06:03 PM (q+ZCx)

26 I don't understand law so don't get how some Commissar Judge from Timbuktu gets to meddle in a Texas congress decision

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (+qU29)

27 @17 the Louisiana case was argued 10/15. It will definitely be close regarding the 2026 election, but Texas could argue that they've been ready to go since they passed the map

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (bfwj/)

28 If your legal opinion is overruled by a higher court your ass should get FIRED from the bench. Like non-lawyers who fvck up get fired.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2025 06:02 PM (A0sqA)
---
Or at least there should be that option if the reviewing judges feel that the attempt to ignore the law was blatant enough.

We could start by putting those teeth into it.

Who knows, though, if judges would really piss in their own pool. And it probably would mainly be used by prog judges to throw out less-than-radical judges.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (krQz2)

29 >>>13 Trump appointed this piece of shit. How the fuck does this happen?

Trump did not have control of Congress for the second half of his first term. These pieces of shit always say he's Trump appointed without noting that he might have to make deals to get some judges through.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (1wjle)

30 Can't we deal GS another loss by shipping his ass to Indonesia?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (fvaRK)

31 It's sad that courts are chiefed by the double tongues. Judge Smith, there is bamboo in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is bamboo in your words of life. No signed opinion can hold the bamboo. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same bamboo of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life.

Posted by: Ten Bears at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (wVcYX)

32 Calling another judge an "unskilled magician" in an opinion is about as close to GFY as will ever appear in the Federal Reporter.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (44PAK)

33 >>> sorry this took a lot longer than I thought it would. the dissent is 120 pages long. I'll try to trim it more.
Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (1wjle)


Like a well kept bamboo garden, lively but balanced with order.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (3uBP9)

34 Democrat Senator Alex Padilla (CA) slammed his notebook and stormed out of a hearing on immigration enforcement on Wednesday.

The Senate Judiciary subcommittee held a hearing on immigration raids and Alex Padilla threw a tantrum.

“I refuse to give oxygen to the fire of disinformation and propaganda! I refuse to be part of this charade!” Padilla shouted as he slammed his notebook.

Reminder: Alex Padilla is what we refer to as a *drama queen*. Alex Padilla's jumpshot and first pitch is likely just as bad as the Kenyan Muslim's. Alex Padilla's wife watches "Gunsmoke" reruns and wishes her husband had the virility and sex appeal of Festus. Alex Padilla has always wanted to grift enough money to own a classic Porsche, but sadly he doesn't know how to drive a manual.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (TN0g+)

35 I’m going to go ahead and guess that those judges are pals with Norm Eisen.

Color Revolution, babyyyyyy!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (49/Bh)

36 Governor Newsom quickly tweeted, "Donald Trump and Greg
Abbott played with fire, got burned -- and democracy won . . .

DEMOCRACITITTY WUN!!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 19, 2025 06:03 PM (q+ZCx)
---
Hmm. I don't recall Democracy v. Texas.....

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (krQz2)

37 Texas should put rediistricting to a vote like California did. But I bet they're afraid how that would go! Only reason republicans are doing it is to prevent Trump's inevitable impeachment.

Posted by: Sid at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (OFLfN)

38 I think a substantial part of the country including in the judiciary has had enough of this shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2025 06:03 PM (viF8m)

And if Roberts and ACB feel otherwise, this will get enshrined in law.

I am not trying to black pill here ,but further reiterate that our system was based on at least being able to deal with each other in good faith. I do not think this is the case any longer.

I am not saying that the only ultimate recourse is going to need to be hanging each and every one of these corrupt motherfuckers from lampposts and overpasses in the districts they are supposed to represent, but I am also not not saying that. Hypothetically.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:06 PM (zZu0s)

39 I need clarification. If judges act in a blatantly partisan and unconstitutional way, cant the Supremes put put an immediate stay? Does it have to be a life altering situation to get an immediate stay? Why arent the Supremes standing up to these rogue judges and bouncing them out of court? If they did that to one, they wouldn't have to do it again.

Posted by: Megthered at November 19, 2025 06:06 PM (OTKIw)

40 actually R's held the senate in the last half of Trump's first term. So I don't know why he appointed him. I do know Democrats refuse to bring the names of judges for a vote and so he might have made a deal.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 06:06 PM (1wjle)

41 Trump appointed this piece of shit. How the fuck does this happen?

Trump did not have control of Congress for the second half of his first term.
------

Trump doesn't seem to have control of Congress for the 1st half of his current term. I love the wins, but Congress isn't responsible for much of what Trump has achieved so far.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (TN0g+)

42 I am reminded once again that I have never known or known of a guy named Jeffrey who was worth warm spit.

Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (98kQX)

43 >>>Like a well kept bamboo garden, lively but balanced with order.

you see it then

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (1wjle)

44 You know who likes bamboo?

Pandas like bamboo.


You know who likes pandas?

Ace likes pandas!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (W2Pud)

45 But will it be in time?

There are already filing deadlines approaching for the 2026 election.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 05:59 PM


That's the plan. Make those deadlines impossible to meet on appeal. That's why the Texas AG is appealing this directly to SCOTUS.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (0N4FZ)

46 Trump appointed this piece of shit. How the fuck does this happen?

Trump did not have control of Congress for the second half of his first term. These pieces of shit always say he's Trump appointed without noting that he might have to make deals to get some judges through.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (1wjle)
---
Thank you.

Also, it doesn't apply here, but I believe it's also the case that in blue states, the custom is that blue Senators get to suggest the list of possible appointees.

Those also don't apply as "Trump appointments" although that's technically correct.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (krQz2)

47 Trump doesn't seem to have control of Congress for the 1st half of his current term. I love the wins, but Congress isn't responsible for much of what Trump has achieved so far.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (TN0g+)

That's putting it gently.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (44PAK)

48 Stupid question: does Congress spend, like, 95% of Thor time holding hearings?
When did this become so dang important? It’s theater, it never leads to anything.

I am over it, all of it.

Impeach some federal judges, pass legislation that makes Trump EO s law. DO SOMETHING!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (49/Bh)

49 sorry this took a lot longer than I thought it would. the dissent is 120 pages long. I'll try to trim it more.
Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 05:55 PM (1wjle)
---
Again, this is why I could never work in the legal profession.

It takes 120 pages to say, "Everything that guy said is bullshit. Here's why: (insert 3-5 bullet points here)."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (IBQGV)

50 You know who likes bamboo?

Pandas like bamboo.

You know who likes pandas?

Ace likes pandas!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2025 06:08 PM (W2Pud)
---
So this is about rape? (Pandas are big-time rapists)

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

51 I have never known or known of a guy named Jeffrey who was worth warm spit.
Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (98kQX)

Jeff Smith. Buddy in High School. Smart guy. Was ROTC, but went straight to boot camp after graduation. Worked with his sister at McDonald's. She smoked weird. She hated smoke in her face, so she would hold the cigarette at arms length when she was not puffing on it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM (zZu0s)

52 So this is about rape? (Pandas are big-time rapists)

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM


I heard that one time a panda raped an octopi.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:10 PM (0N4FZ)

53 ...Alex Padilla has always wanted to grift enough money to own a classic Porsche, but sadly he doesn't know how to drive a manual.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:05 PM (TN0g+)
====

Good burn. He would definitely cry.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2025 06:10 PM (A0sqA)

54 [Breitbart] States across the country have potentially illegally issued about 194,000 Commercial Driver’s Licenses (CDLs) to foreign truck drivers who would not meet English language standards set by the Department of Transportation (DOT), Secretary Sean Duffy reveals.

Duffy revealed the alarming statistic in an interview on Fox Business Channel, stating that some 200,000 CDLs have been issued to foreign nationals and that of those, 194,000 are suspected of having been issued illegally.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:10 PM (TN0g+)

55 ---
So this is about rape? (Pandas are big-time rapists)
Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

What about Sexual Harassment Panda ? Back when South Park was funny...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 19, 2025 06:10 PM (VE6XX)

56 Seem to recap that the one thing McConnell was jazzed about doing during Trump’s first term was getting judges approved. If this is the caliber of McConnells picks, well.. actually, it tracks.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:11 PM (49/Bh)

57 Trump doesn't seem to have control of Congress for the 1st half of his current term. I love the wins, but Congress isn't responsible for much of what Trump has achieved so far.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (TN0g+)
---
If you're a Republican, that's your party, in their furious fight to do not a damn thing.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:11 PM (krQz2)

58 Two Partisan Hacks Ignored Supreme Court Precedent to Claim the Texas Redistricting Map Was Illegal.

Their precedent is what was illegal, as is dissent from our decree!

Posted by: The Imperial Judiciary at November 19, 2025 06:12 PM (3arSl)

59 6 Seem to recap that the one thing McConnell was jazzed about doing during Trump’s first term was getting judges approved. If this is the caliber of McConnells picks, well.. actually, it tracks.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:11 PM (49/Bh)

Heritage Foundations recommendations... Like ACB

Posted by: It's me donna at November 19, 2025 06:12 PM (VE6XX)

60
I will snatch every mutha fucka bamboo birthday.

Posted by: Steven Seagal at November 19, 2025 06:12 PM (Y9x1x)

61 So this is about rape? (Pandas are big-time rapists)
Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

What about Sexual Harassment Panda ? Back when South Park was funny...
------

I watched that episode back in the day and it was a classic. I also remember the one about sex education, and another about Cartman being involved in Civil War reenactments, and deciding that this time the South should win!

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:13 PM (TN0g+)

62 There should be a limit on the number of overturnings a Federal judge gets before they're removed from the bench.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2025 06:13 PM (WYStd)

63 This has the typical judge character of "We know better" and "We should be in the loop on everything" written all over it.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (krQz2)

64 I have never known or known of a guy named Jeffrey who was worth warm spit.
Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2025 06:07 PM (98kQX)


Jeffrey Coombs (Dr. Herbert West in Reanimator)?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (wVcYX)

65 Been watching the Ukraine -russia war. Things may be coming to a head. Zelinsky is in Turkey "negotiating" while various members of his government are fleeing charges of corruption. The Russians are overrunning several areas and in the last couple of days have been pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones , including a lot in western Ukraine. Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (bfwj/)

66 Re: cdl’s for illegals - UK paper, maybe the Independent, has an article about this. Guess why it started? Biden asked states to fast-track these after Covid ‘to fix the supply chain crisis’.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (49/Bh)

67 Heritage Foundations recommendations... Like ACB
Posted by: It's me donna at November 19, 2025 06:12 PM (VE6XX)
---
For all she went through to get the seat (okay, not as bad as Kavanagh got), she turned out to be the worst.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:15 PM (krQz2)

68 No (R) Reps north of NY and we are jerrybrownmandering.

Abbot should say we are using the maps.
I have the Tex Guard and you have a few retired fat cops.

PS FUck YOu

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:15 PM (gbOdA)

69 nd deal the Soroses a well-deserved loss.


Posted by: Ace

As well as offering gov brylcream a smack in his greasy mouth.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2025 06:16 PM (uWSFJ)

70 Re: cdl’s for illegals - UK paper, maybe the Independent, has an article about this. Guess why it started? Biden asked states to fast-track these after Covid ‘to fix the supply chain crisis’.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (49/Bh)
---
Including states putting "Name Not Given" on the CDL.

No malarky.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:16 PM (krQz2)

71
So what is the next step? Appeal? Diana Ross & The Supremes?

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 19, 2025 06:16 PM (IifOV)

72 66 Re: cdl’s for illegals - UK paper, maybe the Independent, has an article about this. Guess why it started? Biden asked states to fast-track these after Covid ‘to fix the supply chain crisis’.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (49/Bh)

Lizzy
The one you are talking about also has the very special most honored GOLD STAR.
BULLSHIT

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (gbOdA)

73 Who was the Senate Majority Leader in Trump's first term?

There's your answer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (viF8m)

74 Ho, boy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (rU9qQ)

75 There should be a limit on the number of overturnings a Federal judge gets before they're removed from the bench.
----

This suggestion appears often, but it would be gamed just like they're already gaming us. It would make appeals panels and the Supremes even LESS likely to slap down a ruling because they'd want to "protect their own" from loss of livelyhood.

The only real solution is an honorable Congress ready to do their job and impeach judges that are determined to ignore the law. But we saw last night (as just one example) that Congress critters would rather "swap prisoners" (Plaskett swapped for Cory Mills) rather than hold BOTH accountable for their actions.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (TN0g+)

76 He meant to write "I am or WAS slow-walking the ruling" not "saw slow-walking the ruling." I read a lot of federal court decisions. This kind of error is very rare. They have full time clerks to review and triple check everything. You know part of his emotion was that these other judges kept him in the dark and then sprung this on him denying him time to write a professionally drafted decision.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 19, 2025 06:18 PM (R86kT)

77 never known or known of a guy named Jeffrey who was worth warm spit.
Posted by: huerfano


Arthur Jeffery was awesome. Wrote a massive collection of variants from the text of the Koran, wrote a dictionary of where the Koran wasn't using real Arabic, translated Emperor Leo III's refutation of Islam.
But that was his last name.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 19, 2025 06:18 PM (gKWVE)

78 This suggestion appears often, but it would be gamed just like they're already gaming us. It would make appeals panels and the Supremes even LESS likely to slap down a ruling because they'd want to "protect their own" from loss of livelyhood.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (TN0g+)

It would be used as a political weapon to remove "conservative" judges.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:19 PM (dK+Kv)

79 RealID is worthless.

0.0

No GPA

Without RealID then TSA is worthless.

My advice to you is carry the heaviest metal case laptop you can find.
And if anyone stands and yell at the flight attendant beat them.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:19 PM (gbOdA)

80
Heritage Foundations recommendations... Like ACB
Posted by: It's me donna at November 19, 2025 06:12 PM (VE6XX)

——-

I think it’s more The Federalist Society.

Now exposed as just The Big Business Lawyers and Shysters Society.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (iOTJP)

81 I believe it's also the case that in blue states, the custom is that blue Senators get to suggest the list of possible appointees.

It's called the "blue slip", because the Republican Senators like to cross dress in negligees when they give it up for Schumer.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (gKWVE)

82 If this is the caliber of McConnells picks, well.. actually, it tracks.
Posted by: Lizzy
---

In steel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (rU9qQ)

83 "Biden asked states to fast-track these after Covid ‘to fix the supply chain crisis’.
Posted by: Lizzy "

The supply chain of DEATH.

Posted by: dun dun dunn at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (vFG9F)

84 Preclearance is the old regime in which southern states. The federal government has wildly abused preclearance for decades, mostly for D advantage.

That idea is dead as a doornail and is never coming back.

The real solution is for more black and brown people to start voting their economic interests, namely, for the Republicans. Then they would have proper representation in congress.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (C3IAS)

85 never known or known of a guy named Jeffrey who was worth warm spit.
Posted by: huerfano

The guy who invented the Jeffrey's tube on Star Trek.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (L/fGl)

86 We have an owl outside with a kind of whooo I've never heard before. A long creepy descending tone whooo. The kind you'd hear in a horror movie right before you get wrecked by a vampire or werewolf. And not the female erotic fantasy kind of vampire or werewolf wrecking either.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (3uBP9)

87 There should be a limit on the number of overturnings a Federal judge gets before they're removed from the bench.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2025 06:13 PM (WYStd)


The result of which would eventually be every strict constructionist judge being removed from the bench.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (ExV1e)

88 73 Who was the Senate Majority Leader in Trump's first term?

There's your answer.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2025 06:17 PM (viF8m)

Turtle

Trump should have shown him how fun the helo rides are over the Anacostia.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (gbOdA)

89 RealID is worthless.

0.0

No GPA

Without RealID then TSA is worthless.

My advice to you is carry the heaviest metal case laptop you can find.
And if anyone stands and yell at the flight attendant beat them.
-------

All airlines eventually file bankruptcy. Seriously, I doubt there's any airline that one would call "nation-wide" that hasn't done so. We should just bankrupt the whole flock of them by NOT flying until this gets handled. I spent a decade working and traveling for the government, and I would drive 6 hours to an assignment rather than flying. Its never been anything approaching "pleasurable" to fly, anywhere, on any company's flights.

Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at November 19, 2025 06:22 PM (TN0g+)

90 86 We have an owl outside with a kind of whooo I've never heard before. A long creepy descending tone whooo. The kind you'd hear in a horror movie right before you get wrecked by a vampire or werewolf. And not the female erotic fantasy kind of vampire or werewolf wrecking either.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:20 PM (3uBP9)

We live on the coast and have a crazy bird

Who woo woo woo wooo

Usually in late summer.

I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics
And his hair was perfect

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:22 PM (gbOdA)

91 My advice to you is carry the heaviest metal case laptop you can find.
And if anyone stands and yell at the flight attendant beat them.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:19 PM (gbOdA)


Parachute cord bracelet can be used as a garrote.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:22 PM (ExV1e)

92 I'll try to trim it more.
Posted by: ace


That's what she said!

Posted by: I mean about the bamboo... at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (7dvAW)

93 'My take? Judge Smith's argument is sturdy and strong, built from the tallest, straightest bamboo.'

Unfortunately for Judge Smith, we now live in a two tier society where the law is only for some people. His argument is only of academic significance. Until judges like his opponents are ignored or better yet punished severely, nothing like the rule of law will occur.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (fd80v)

94 Holy word count, Batman!

Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (QMAsf)

95 "We have an owl outside with a kind of whooo I've never heard before. "

You might be surrounded by injuns.

Posted by: dun dun dunn at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (vFG9F)

96 Until judges like his opponents are ignored or better yet punished severely, nothing like the rule of law will occur.
Posted by: Dr. Claw


Will there be peepee whacking? I'm just here for the peepee whacking.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (gKWVE)

97 Emperor Shadam IV in Dune is credited with saying " Control the coinage and the Courts, let the rabble have the rest."

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (YwEeS)

98 Been watching the Ukraine -russia war. Things may be coming to a head. Zelinsky is in Turkey "negotiating" while various members of his government are fleeing charges of corruption. The Russians are overrunning several areas and in the last couple of days have been pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones , including a lot in western Ukraine. Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (bfwj/)

It is. There is a plan to be presented to Zelenskyy, that he won't be able to refuse.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (g47mK)

99 Holy word count, Batman!
Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (QMAsf)


Based on the two most recent posts I'd say that it's obvious Ace has been into the medicinal cocaine again.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (ExV1e)

100 95 "We have an owl outside with a kind of whooo I've never heard before. "

You might be surrounded by injuns.
Posted by: dun dun dunn at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (vFG9F)

Been a hoot owl by my window for 3 nights in a row

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:25 PM (gbOdA)

101 I believe it's also the case that in blue states, the custom is that blue Senators get to suggest the list of possible appointees.

It's called the "blue slip", because the Republican Senators like to cross dress in negligees when they give it up for Schumer.
-------

That's the most honest explanation of that custom I've read. It should be ended immediately. But it won't be, because the GOP hasn't learned anything from Trump and they really don't give a rip what the people who vote for them want.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:25 PM (TN0g+)

102 Jeff Chandler (Red Ball Express, Away All Boats, Merrill's Marauders)

Brooklyn kid, all 6' 4" of him.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 19, 2025 06:25 PM (wVcYX)

103 Been watching the Ukraine -russia war. Things may be coming to a head. Zelinsky is in Turkey "negotiating" while various members of his government are fleeing charges of corruption. The Russians are overrunning several areas and in the last couple of days have been pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones , including a lot in western Ukraine. Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM


The US grift money through US aid and other sources has dried up. They are getting out ahead of the collapse that is coming.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:25 PM (0N4FZ)

104 Been watching the Ukraine -russia war. Things may be coming to a head. Zelinsky is in Turkey "negotiating" while various members of his government are fleeing charges of corruption. The Russians are overrunning several areas and in the last couple of days have been pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones , including a lot in western Ukraine. Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM


Are you suggesting that Russia isn't on the verge of collapse?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:26 PM (ExV1e)

105 Owls are cool.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2025 06:26 PM (W2Pud)

106 Based on the two most recent posts I'd say that it's obvious Ace has been into the medicinal cocaine again.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (ExV1e)


Or he's going for GAINZ in his fingers and wrists from all of that typing.

Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2025 06:26 PM (QMAsf)

107 So working at Belle Chase right of the MS right Navy Base.

The back gate was on a bayou and there was shit there like I have never seen.

We turn of the lights to do night test and something whosshes by me.

We turn the lights on and it is an owl about 3 feet tall with about a 3 lb nutrea.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (gbOdA)

108 Will anything happen?

Posted by: Because usually nothing happens at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (YbBUz)

109
Abbot should say we are using the maps.
I have the Tex Guard and you have a few retired fat cops.


Mark Kelly says we don't have to obey orders we don't like.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (pkeXY)

110 95 "We have an owl outside with a kind of whooo I've never heard before. "

You might be surrounded by injuns.
Posted by: dun dun dunn at November 19, 2025 06:23 PM (vFG9F)

We have several Barred Owls in the neighborhood. Usually their call is described as "who, who, who cooks for you". But it's fun when 2 get in the same tree - they seem to annoy the heck out of each other and descend into a racket that almost sounds like dogs barking. If dogs could get up into tree tops, that is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (uWKK8)

111 He's loud enough I can hear it from the front of the house and back, upstairs, downstairs. Or maybe owls have a kind of non-directional far distance sonic signature like ambulances or something. It's not really loud but I can hear it everywhere in the house. Which is also spooky.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (3uBP9)

112 @104 you know, I'm thinking people aren't being truthful about that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (bfwj/)

113 word count schmerd count.
I am, like the panda, RIVETED.

Posted by: AMartel at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (otvi3)

114 Did Ms. Lindsay vote "aye" for these two judges?

Posted by: Jeff E at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (mfA8h)

115 The owls are not what they seem.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (0aYVJ)

116 word count schmerd count.
I am, like the panda, RIVETED.

Posted by: AMartel at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (otvi3)
---
So are we.

Posted by: Levis at November 19, 2025 06:29 PM (krQz2)

117 Texas has 13k SNAP stealers.
Just post their names and address at the local HEB or Kroger and let the locals solve that problem.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:29 PM (gbOdA)

118 God, we need more dissents like this. I'd recommend him for SCOTUS, but I find he's 79 years old.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2025 06:29 PM (s0JqF)

119 The owls are not what they seem.
------

There is unrest in the forrest...

Posted by: Geddy L. at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (TN0g+)

120 One. Two. Three.

Three licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop!

Posted by: Mr. Owl at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (wVcYX)

121 Washington State is killing hundreds of thousands of barred owls because they are shoving out the spotted owls.

I though Darwin was a thing, like a science thing and you’re supposed to follow the science and not the feels…..but I guess not.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (W2Pud)

122 How old do owls live and am I too old to get a pet owl?

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (gbOdA)

123 Re cocaine ace

7% solution?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (zZu0s)

124 The owls are not what they seem.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (0aYVJ)
---
Really wish they'd explored that more.

That was intriguing

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (krQz2)

125 The owls are not what they seem.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM


Pretty sure they are leprechauns and not owls.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:31 PM (0N4FZ)

126 >111 He's loud enough I can hear it from the front of the house and back, upstairs, downstairs. Or maybe owls have a kind of non-directional far distance sonic signature like ambulances or something. It's not really loud but I can hear it everywhere in the house. Which is also spooky.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (3uBP9)

If it sounds like a small horse whinnying its a screech owl.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 06:31 PM (GTqXr)

127 121 Washington State is killing hundreds of thousands of barred owls because they are shoving out the spotted owls.

I though Darwin was a thing, like a science thing and you’re supposed to follow the science and not the feels…..but I guess not.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2025 06:30 PM (W2Pud)

Now do EBT and Section 8 for Mexicans vs. Blacks.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:31 PM (gbOdA)

128 Some owls are more equal than others.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:31 PM (0aYVJ)

129 Judge Brown equates Dem with Black It's obvious it's interchangeable to him based on his opinion. If you change a district from D to R you are changing it from black to R according to Brown.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 06:32 PM (KDPiq)

130 A long creepy descending tone whooo

First base!

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2025 06:32 PM (3arSl)

131 🚨 BREAKING — absolutely massive.
In a razor-thin 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court just gave President Trump sweeping wartime authority under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

That means Tren de Aragua — now officially labeled an invasion force — can be rounded up and deported directly to El Salvador’s mega-prison.

This is historic.
This changes everything.

Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (hw2RI)

132 128 Some owls are more equal than others.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:31 PM (0aYVJ)

and just like that the Tootsie Roll Owl and the Rice Owl played the Ace of Spades.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (gbOdA)

133 Nearly everybody gets twitterpated in the springtime. For example: you're walking along, minding your own business. You're looking neither to the left, nor to the right, when all of a sudden, you run smack into a pretty face. Woo-woo! You begin to get weak in the knees. Your head's in a whirl. And then you feel light as a feather; and before you know it, you're walking on air. And then you know what? You're knocked for a loop, and you completely lose your head!

Posted by: Friend Owl at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (wVcYX)

134 "The owls are not what they seem.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame"

Well, they aren't real.

Posted by: Birds Aren't Real at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (vFG9F)

135 We have a few barred Owls in the neighborhood. They descend from a tree and hop around the yard occasionally.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 19, 2025 06:34 PM (LjSYW)

136 Trump did not have control of Congress for the second half of his first term. These pieces of shit always say he's Trump appointed without noting that he might have to make deals to get some judges through.
Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 06:04 PM (1wjle)

The senate was Republican for the second half of his term. Infested with RINOs like Romney but still Republican.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:34 PM (/AUU2)

137 If Congress, or the SCOTUS and state governments can't rein these fed judges in, then the options for the people become extremely narrow and ugly. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 06:34 PM (g8Ew8)

138 BREAKING — absolutely massive.
In a razor-thin 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court just gave President Trump sweeping wartime authority under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

That means Tren de Aragua — now officially labeled an invasion force — can be rounded up and deported directly to El Salvador’s mega-prison.

This is historic.
This changes everything.

Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (hw2RI)

LFG!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:34 PM (dK+Kv)

139 I saw about 20 buzzards sharing possum on the half shell yesterday.

Quite Majestic.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (gbOdA)

140 for your infomation, so there's no confusion,

"fuckton" is a US ton measurement, there's no metric fuckton, imperial standard fuckton, no other.

were somebody to need a metric equivalent it would be the tranny ton, or, if you needed the imperial equivalent it would be the imperial gimp ton

Posted by: n at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (rrEEi)

141 >>>, we now live in a two tier society where the law is only for some people. ...
Posted by: Dr. Claw
-----------

[Boris Yeltsin's ] grandfather, Ignati Yeltsin, was a legendarily, mean, tough character in the area. And through hard labor his whole life and being a bit of a disciplinarian when it came to farm labor, he eventually acquired a horse and a mill on his property. And as a result, they had to be liquidated during Dekulakization. He became a kulak. If you look in western definitions of that, these are rich peasant farmers, the Encyclopedia Britannica talks about how they were even so wealthy that they sometimes gave out mortgages. No, this guy just had a horse basically. So he gets sent off. He dies in transit, Ignati, during this time period.

But I asked some of the old timers who were still in the region to talk about that time period. There were a lot of people who were sons and daughters of people who remembered. And one of the things that they did at that time period is that they didn’t even want to waste money on bullets for the kulaks. So what they would do is just declare you a kulak, continued

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (rU9qQ)

142 >>> The owls are not what they seem.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (0aYVJ)


How’s log doin’ these days? Good I hope?

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (3uBP9)

143 cont

just declare you a kulak, you and your family, and then there would be a proclamation that it would be illegal for anybody in the area to give shelter to that person and his family and his kids. So for years on end, people went to bed at night to the sound of people freezing to death, kids screaming at night in the Soviet Union, because that’s how they liquidated the kulak class.

And there were millions of people who met ends like this. And that’s just the beginning of the shit they did. ... Then, eventually, they get to peasants who have a horse . And that is what happened when you have a bunch of intellectuals running a revolution in the name of a working class.’

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (rU9qQ)

144 Or he's going for GAINZ in his fingers and wrists from all of that typing.
Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2025 06:26 PM (QMAsf)


Well, it is November, he's gotta do something.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:36 PM (ExV1e)

145 The Screech Owl:

https://youtu.be/5Oiy5RcDf40

Posted by: My Cousin Vinny at November 19, 2025 06:36 PM (wVcYX)

146 109
'Mark Kelly says we don't have to obey orders we don't like.'

That bald, election stealing cock gobbler.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 19, 2025 06:36 PM (fd80v)

147 Songs about owls

Who are you
Who can it be now
Who ll stop the rain
Who do you love

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (gbOdA)

148 We're getting bamboozled

Posted by: In keeping with a theme at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (TbWk/)

149 Mark Kelly says we don't have to obey orders we don't like.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2025 06:27 PM (pkeXY)


While that's what he implied, what he said was that soldiers don't have to obey orders which are illegal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (ExV1e)

150
Emperor Shadam IV in Dune is credited with saying " Control the coinage and the Courts, let the rabble have the rest."
Posted by: steevy


They ALL say that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (pkeXY)

151 Songs about owls

Who are you
Who can it be now
Who ll stop the rain
Who do you love

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (gbOdA)

Sympathy for the Devil

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (dK+Kv)

152 >> again -- and deal the Soroses a well-deserved loss.

In better times, people would put together a posse and finally hang the Soros’ for being treasonous, America hating scum who have funded every subversive attempt to undermine our elections and overthrow our government. That they murdered Charlie Kirk for having open debates, and these scum are still walking around filing lawsuits, with their fellow judicial participants in treachery is beyond a tragedy.

Posted by: That Guy at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (8NQQX)

153 BREAKING — absolutely massive.
In a razor-thin 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court just gave President Trump sweeping wartime authority under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

That means Tren de Aragua — now officially labeled an invasion force — can be rounded up and deported directly to El Salvador’s mega-prison.

This is historic.
This changes everything.
Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM (hw2RI)

Not so fast.....

----------Judge Boesberg

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (g8Ew8)

154 LFG!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:34 PM (dK+Kv)

I'm sorry. I am old school. I see this in text and think 'looking for group.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (zZu0s)

155 BREAKING — absolutely massive.
In a razor-thin 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court just gave President Trump sweeping wartime authority under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

That means Tren de Aragua — now officially labeled an invasion force — can be rounded up and deported directly to El Salvador’s mega-prison.

This is historic.
This changes everything.

Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2025 06:33 PM


Hate to say it but the hawaiin judge will still rule this unconstitutional after some lefty sues and it will go back into the courts and be tied up for years.


Let's face it, federal judges have thumbed their noses at SCOTUS rulings since day one of Trump 1.0 administration and they are going to continue to do so no matter what SCOTUS rules.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (0N4FZ)

156 declare you a kulak, you and your family, and then there would be a proclamation that it would be illegal for anybody in the area to give shelter to that person and his family and his kids. So for years on end, people went to bed at night to the sound of people freezing to death, kids screaming at night in the Soviet Union, because that’s how they liquidated the kulak class.

—-

Oh man this is good shit I’m taking notes
- Mamdani

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (/AUU2)

157 But I asked some of the old timers who were still in the region to talk about that time period. There were a lot of people who were sons and daughters of people who remembered. And one of the things that they did at that time period is that they didn’t even want to waste money on bullets for the kulaks. So what they would do is just declare you a kulak, continued
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (rU9qQ)

Pol Pot found plastic bags to be cost effective.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (gbOdA)

158 I'm sorry. I am old school. I see this in text and think 'looking for group.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (zZu0s)

I guess I skipped that day in class.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (dK+Kv)

159 Judge Smith? Judge Brown?

Are we sure these are real judges and not actors?

What was the third judge's name? Judge Jones?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (KDPiq)

160 Not so fast.....

----------Judge Boesberg

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM


Jinx!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (0N4FZ)

161 Costello: Who's on first?

Abbott: Exactly!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (wVcYX)

162
Me ol' bam-boo, me ol' bam-boo
You'd better never bother with me ol' bamboo.
You can have me hat or me bumper-shoo
But you'd better never bother with me ol' bamboo.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (krQz2)

163 While that's what he implied, what he said was that soldiers don't have to obey orders which are illegal.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (ExV1e)

Nope

They were asking for insurrection and promised cover.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (gbOdA)

164 Hate to say it but the hawaiin judge will still rule this unconstitutional after some lefty sues and it will go back into the courts and be tied up for years.


Let's face it, federal judges have thumbed their noses at SCOTUS rulings since day one of Trump 1.0 administration and they are going to continue to do so no matter what SCOTUS rules.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (0N4FZ)

Earlier this year

SCOTUS : no more national injunctions by district judges

3 days later

District Judge: I’m issuing a national injunction

SCOTUS: shrug

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:40 PM (/AUU2)

165 The owls are not what they seem.

Obviously. Owls are birds and birds aren't real.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:40 PM (ExV1e)

166 #117 OMG !! TX had better start working on that
113000 is a big big number

That is like 3%
Arrest them all

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (051ua)

167 Bamboo...

is like a woman.

It grows. It pleases the eye. It needs attention, from time to time.

But not too much attention, for the bamboo is mostly self-sufficient.
Posted by: Soothsayer waxes poetically for bamboo at November 19, 2025 05:59 PM (Y9x1x)

Unless kept in close check, it runs amok and consumes every nearby resource, chokes out the growth of everything around it, and wreaks massive destruction if removed for the preservation of surrounding life.

Posted by: Simile isn't bad, explanation needs work at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TbWk/)

168 >Pol Pot found plastic bags to be cost effective.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (gbOdA)

ReAL cOmMunIsm HasN't bEen TrIEd beForE!1111!!

~your kid's history teacher.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (GTqXr)

169 I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it amazes me that unfettered power for a militarized state has so much support from the left. Pol Pot is responsible for the deaths of around 25% of the entire population of Cambodia exactly *because* he was solely in charge of a militarized state and directly killed those he perceived as threats and then starved an equal number because of economic incompetence.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)

170 Let's face it, federal judges have thumbed their noses at SCOTUS rulings since day one of Trump 1.0 administration and they are going to continue to do so no matter what SCOTUS rules.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:38 PM (0N4FZ)
---
If the judiciary cannot run itself by the principle of judicial review, I hardly see any reason any elected official should.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (krQz2)

171 What did Mark Kelly say about Obama droning American citizens?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (KDPiq)

172 Been watching the Ukraine -russia war. Things may be coming to a head. Zelinsky is in Turkey "negotiating" while various members of his government are fleeing charges of corruption. The Russians are overrunning several areas and in the last couple of days have been pounding Ukraine with missiles and drones , including a lot in western Ukraine. Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:14 PM (bfwj/)

It is. There is a plan to be presented to Zelenskyy, that he won't be able to refuse.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2025 06:24 PM (g47mK)

Z is out of country on tour, his habit when things get dicey for him in Kiev. The question is will he be let back in?

In military terms the last few strongholds containing pre-war fortifications are surrounded or nearly so, and them forming a new position farther back is questionable. They are critically low of troops.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (8avO+)

173 Songs about owls

Who are you
Who can it be now
Who ll stop the rain
Who do you love

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (gbOdA)

Sympathy for the Devil
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 19, 2025 06:37 PM (dK+Kv)

Who Made Who

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 19, 2025 06:42 PM (LjSYW)

174 Search Assist

The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 allows the president to detain or deport citizens of enemy nations during wartime. It was enacted to prevent foreign espionage and has been invoked during major conflicts, including World War I and World War II.
Brennan Center for Justice nafsa.org

Overview of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798
The Alien Enemies Act, officially known as "An Act Respecting Alien Enemies," was enacted on July 6, 1798, as part of the Alien and Sedition Acts. This law grants the President of the United States the authority to detain or deport foreign nationals from countries that are considered enemies during times of war or when there is a threat of invasion.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:42 PM (rU9qQ)

175 Past Invocations: The Alien Enemies Act has been invoked during significant conflicts:

War of 1812
World War I
World War II

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:43 PM (rU9qQ)

176 Who Are You?

Hoo hoo. Hoo hoo.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 19, 2025 06:43 PM (0aYVJ)

177
"fuckton" is a US ton measurement, there's no metric fuckton, imperial standard fuckton, no other.

were somebody to need a metric equivalent it would be the tranny ton, or, if you needed the imperial equivalent it would be the imperial gimp ton

Posted by: n
------

But, but...surely 'fucktun' is a European measure?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:43 PM (XeU6L)

178 I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it amazes me that unfettered power for a militarized state has so much support from the left. Pol Pot is responsible for the deaths of around 25% of the entire population of Cambodia exactly *because* he was solely in charge of a militarized state and directly killed those he perceived as threats and then starved an equal number because of economic incompetence.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)

Everyone loves a military state if you let them imagine the are at the top of it. It means you can fantasize about shooting everyone you don't like. They never think of a general shooting them in the head after a coup, or the country dissolving from their mismanagement.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (8avO+)

179 If tren de assholes is deported who will find the cure for cancer?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (/AUU2)

180 I still thin letters of mark would eliminate the Houthis in about 4 weeks.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (gbOdA)

181 This regime was finally ended about ten years ago-- but leftwing judges are trying to bring it back through the back door.

Lots of leftists judges like it through the back door...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (ynpvh)

182 Wasn't that radical leftist appointed by Trump?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (051ua)

183 I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it amazes me that unfettered power for a militarized state has so much support from the left.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)
---
That is true. But they don't feel that describes them.

They just want (something they give a high name to), that's all. And then you can't deny them that because it's (high-name here).

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (krQz2)

184 179 If tren de assholes is deported who will find the cure for cancer?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (/AUU2)

North Korea. They found a cure for COVID too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (ynpvh)

185 So this is about rape? (Pandas are big-time rapists)
Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

If true how come pandas aren't reproducing without human assistance? Are we talking prison rape rape here or what?

Posted by: Pandas are dumb bastards at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (TbWk/)

186
But, but...surely 'fucktun' is a European measure?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
----

Well, no. Looked it up, Imperial measue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (XeU6L)

187 >>>Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove
---

Surprised the Ukrainians haven't hanged him already.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (rU9qQ)

188 Nope

They were asking for insurrection and promised cover.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:39 PM (gbOdA)


You can say that all you want but I watched the video.

They said that you don't have to obey an illegal order. They, further, said that you were, in fact, required to disobey illegal orders.

Both of these statements are true, correct, and in keeping with military law.

They went on to say that they'd have your back if you obeyed the UCMJ which was a meaningless bit of nothing.

And, as far as I can tell, the biggest outcome of this is a bunch of internet commenters soiling themselves over it. As they intended.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (ExV1e)

189 But, but...surely 'fucktun' is a European measure?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:43 PM (XeU6L)
---
That might be fucktonne.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

190 *measure

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (XeU6L)

191 surely 'fucktun' is a European measure?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Fucktonnne.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (/AUU2)

192 How many buttloads make a fuckton?

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

193 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (051ua)

John Bolton was also appointed by Trump. What's your point retard?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (KDPiq)

194 Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)

And they have no problem with that man- they just want to be the one who decides.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (zZu0s)

195 Nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (LjSYW)

196 >Everyone loves a military state if you let them imagine the are at the top of it. It means you can fantasize about shooting everyone you don't like. They never think of a general shooting them in the head after a coup, or the country dissolving from their mismanagement.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2025 06:44 PM (8avO+)

something something power grows from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (GTqXr)

197 192 How many buttloads make a fuckton?
Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

Is an assload more than a buttload?

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (gbOdA)

198 How many buttloads make a fuckton?
Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

Sometimes, just one.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (wVcYX)

199 I wonder how aliassmithsmith's typing would look if he were hooked to car battery.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 19, 2025 06:46 PM (fd80v)

200 >> How many buttloads make a fuckton?

A beaucoup. A beaucoup of buttloads is one fuckton.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2025 06:47 PM (w6EFb)

201 Part of the Alien and Sedition Act

President Don, use this with a broad brush in places like NY, CA, MN & WI.
Thanks.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:47 PM (rU9qQ)

202 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (ExV1e)

They implied using the national guard in the blue cities was an illegal order.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 06:47 PM (KDPiq)

203 Wouldn't be surprised to see Z flee also sometime soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove
---

Surprised the Ukrainians haven't hanged him already.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM


Well the money from the US has finally run out and Trump is refusing to turn that spigot back on so he might be in a bit of a pickle with his people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 06:48 PM (0N4FZ)

204 A butt is a historical unit of liquid volume, typically equal to 126 US gallons

I love this place.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:49 PM (XeU6L)

205 113 word count schmerd count.
I am, like the panda, RIVETED.
Posted by: AMartel at November 19, 2025 06:28 PM (otvi3)

Same!

Posted by: Dr. Frankenstein's monster at November 19, 2025 06:49 PM (VB5xp)

206 1 buttload = 1.2 assloads

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:50 PM (krQz2)

207 I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it amazes me that unfettered power for a militarized state has so much support from the left.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)

They loved the USSR. They loved Red China. They love all manners of murderous tyrannical regimes, as long as they're targeting their enemies. They want a state that will send its political opponents to the camps, or worse. They deify men like Che Guevara who was an essentially a gay-hating serial killer, but he was hip and Communist. So yeah they want a militarized state as long as it's THEIR militarized state.

Posted by: It's not much of a surprise at November 19, 2025 06:50 PM (TbWk/)

208 just declare you a kulak, you and your family, and then there would be a proclamation that it would be illegal for anybody in the area to give shelter to that person and his family and his kids. So for years on end, people went to bed at night to the sound of people freezing to death, kids screaming at night in the Soviet Union, because that’s how they liquidated the kulak class.

And there were millions of people who met ends like this. And that’s just the beginning of the shit they did. ... Then, eventually, they get to peasants who have a horse . And that is what happened when you have a bunch of intellectuals running a revolution in the name of a working class.’
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 19, 2025 06:35 PM (rU9qQ)

They also took all of the harvest from Ukraine then. Not 'all the export harvest' but all of it - grain for the farmers, their families, and next year's seed corn. So they starved. A reporter went to one family some years later and saw three children. When he asked about how they got through the mother took him around to a plot where there were three graves of other children.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2025 06:51 PM (8avO+)

209
There is also the "sanctified" prefix that applies to shitloads and shittons. I'll need to look up the conversion factors. How many sanctified shittons make a fuckton.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2025 06:52 PM (w6EFb)

210 And unaddressed is the actual result of several years of various legal schemes to make sure people of certain skin colors can win seats and form dynasties. In CA the cities that are dominated by "minorities" of the same skin color as most of their constituents have terrible records of crime, graft, and neglect. So they are more alike than different from the previous city councils that were supposedly oppressing the minority. So why are we doing this again? Just like affirmative action, it's become a grift.

Posted by: Random PJ at November 19, 2025 06:53 PM (RRCAT)

211 Ace's take on Nuzzi is making the rounds on X . Getting a lot of cheers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:54 PM (bfwj/)

212 Ace's take on Nuzzi is making the rounds on X . Getting a lot of cheers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2025 06:54 PM (bfwj/)
---
Still impressed. What a whore.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2025 06:55 PM (krQz2)

213 nood


Clintons

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2025 06:56 PM (3uBP9)

214 "I just don't like what the Legislature did here. It was unnecessary, and it seems unfair to disadvantaged voters. I need to step in to make sure wiser heads prevail over the nakedly partisan and racially questionable actions of these zealous lawmakers."

This is exactly what the judge in Utah ruled in a similar case.

Posted by: Half Dozen at November 19, 2025 06:57 PM (EYvpB)

215 Normally would comment on my blue steelie but changing to blue bambooey

Posted by: Spartacus Booker at November 19, 2025 06:57 PM (oEQYk)

216 Oppsie

>>@Top_Bloomberg
·
15m
>>*US REP. CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK INDICTED OVER DISASTER FUNDS: DOJ

>>*DOJ SAYS CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK USED STOLEN FUNDS FOR HER CAMPAIGN

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2025 06:58 PM (viF8m)

217 nood


Clintons
Posted by: banana Dream
--------

Oh, gee, man. I dunno about this...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2025 06:58 PM (XeU6L)

218 Judge Smith wrote, "Likewise, the minimal wiggle-room in Texas’s statutorily mandated elections process means that Texas is faced with an impossible dilemma should this injunction go through, extend the filing deadline for candidates threatening the integrity of their ballot preparation process or keep the original deadline and disadvantage or outright bar cash-poor political candidates across the state from qualifying as congressional candidates."

This, it seems is the crux of why Judge Brown dragged out issuing the preliminary injunction: to make sure that additional Texas Republicans will never make it the House in the upcoming mid-term elections thus increasing the chances that the House flips to the Democrats. Plus Judge Brown must have had a wide eyed understanding of California's efforts to redistrict Republican election chances out of existence.

All this goes to prove that the Texas redistricting was done for partisan reasons even if the actor here was a judge with Stage 4 TDS with a singular goal of gutting Trump's presidency.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 19, 2025 07:12 PM (uv8gn)

219 >>>I will snatch every mutha fucka bamboo birthday.

Posted by: Steven Seagal

lol

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2025 07:14 PM (1wjle)

220 Brown and Smith meet on a sandbar...

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 19, 2025 08:41 PM (MZ+PY)

221 86Soros came up on a LiteBrite screen my neighbor's kid was playing with
No idea what that even means, but I kind of liked it

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at November 19, 2025 08:54 PM (LS65B)

222 They said that you don't have to obey an illegal order. They, further, said that you were, in fact, required to disobey illegal orders.

Both of these statements are true, correct, and in keeping with military law.

They went on to say that they'd have your back if you obeyed the UCMJ which was a meaningless bit of nothing.

And, as far as I can tell, the biggest outcome of this is a bunch of internet commenters soiling themselves over it. As they intended.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 06:45 PM (ExV1e)

Nope. The way it's being presented is if a soldier thinks/feels like the order is illegal, he doesn't have to obey. The language they use is intentional to stir up turbulence within the ranks.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 08:55 PM (g8Ew8)

(Jump to top of page)






Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0411 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0113 seconds, 230 records returned.
Page size 145 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.



MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat