Wednesday Morning Rant

Fake ID

Another day, another story about ICE arresting an illegal alien who was given a CDL. Unlike the last flurry of stories about this where many of the drivers had a printed name of "NO NAME GIVEN" on their CDLs, this one does include the person's name: Akhror Bozorov. He's not only an illegal alien, he's an illegal alien who is wanted as a terrorist in his native country of Uzbekistan but was released into the country by the Biden Administration.

Like last time, however, neither DHS nor the issuing state (the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, in this case), nor the press outlets covering it bring up an uncomfortable fact about these CDLs. Last time around, most of the pictures of licenses issued to Messrs. Given were REAL ID compliant licenses. So, too, was the license given to Bozorov. His REAL ID was probably fraudulent. Non-citizens may be issued them legally, but only if they have official status - green card (permanent resident), valid visa, DACA (I know) or TPS (I know). It is unlikely that Bozorov had any of these.

As any real citizen - that is, a second-class citizen - knows, you have to provide gobs of paperwork to get a REAL ID. Multiple forms of identification and citizenship status must be provided, or you don't get one. The fair Commonwealth skirts around that with their boilerplate response to inquiries as published in the linked article:

"When non-citizen applicants appear at a Driver License Center in Pennsylvania, PennDOT reviews immigration and naturalization documents, which are confirmed in real-time against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) website before issuing any driver's license. PennDOT is prohibited from publicly disclosing information about an individual's driver record due to state and federal privacy laws."

Note what that does not say - and what neither DHS nor Fox News decided to mention. It makes no mention of REAL ID. It also makes no mention of CDLs. Both are special cases. Pennsylvania may issue licenses to foreigners at its discretion, and it is common for resident aliens to have domestic licenses if they drive. Pennsylvania may not, however, issue a REAL ID to an alien unless they have long-term legal status. CDLs, too, may not legally be issued to an illegal alien.

Pennsylvania is attempting to frame this as "we gave a license to an alien after following our internal procedures for doing so and it was legal from our standpoint" and passed the buck to DHS. So one of two things must be true:
1. The Commonwealth is telling the truth. It did its due diligence and DHS told them "all good here. He's an alien with one of the qualifying legal statuses (permanent resident, visa holder, etc.) and you're all good to issue him a REAL ID from the federal standpoint."
2. The Commonwealth is lying and they either didn't vet him through DHS, or they did vet him and issued him a REAL ID illegally.

Who is lying here? Did Pennsylvania fraudulently issue Bozorov a REAL ID while knowing that he was an illegal alien, or did DHS give them them the go-ahead to do so? Why do DHS and the press never comment on the distressingly common problem of the complete failure of the REAL ID system? That system is in place explicitly to avoid this. The cumbersome (and potentially unconstitutional) mess that is the entire REAL ID program is there to ensure that those without long-term legal status are not given official documents that allow them to impersonate having official status.

Someone is lying here, but either way, it invites an uncomfortable conclusion: REAL ID doesn't work. Whether its requirements are being ignored by the states or whether its requirements are being ignored by the feds, the fact remains that the requirements are being ignored. The press can be forgiven for missing this, because press men are all retarded. DHS cannot. They know the score and their extraordinarily loud silence on the issue requires explanation.

If the problem is with the states, why are they not revoking REAL ID certifications from states that do this and invalidating their existing REAL IDs? If the problem is with the feds, why are they not just scrapping the REAL ID program altogether because it is clearly unfit for purpose as well as burdensome? If it's both (and that would be my guess), then the program is clearly pointless.

To ask, in all likelihood, is to answer. That may well be why nobody is asking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:00 AM (0E0In)

2 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 11:00 AM (bFu5X)

3 *sad trombone*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 11:00 AM (bFu5X)

4 Willowed:

It's working for Mamdani. He went from dumbass kid of Mira Nair who couldn't even get into Columbia despite his dad being a professor there to mayor of NYC.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

If I were Columbia, I'd be nervous. Payback is a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:02 AM (0E0In)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

6 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (bFu5X)

7 ... this one does include the person's name: Akhror Bozorov.

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I'm surprised he's not a US District Clown Judge instead.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (vV8zi)

8 I passed a truck on the highway this morning and he had "American owned and American driven" on his truck in a nice script. I gave him a thumbs up as I drove by him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (X0yXK)

9 How about we allow the parties injured by illegals with CDL licenses to name the individual responsible for issuing the license as a party in their damage suit?

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (ftvNl)

10 "It is unlikely that Bozorov had any of these."

I'll bet he had all of them. They aren't hard to get, if you're willing to forge documents and/or steal IDs. Obviously, these guys are stone-cold criminals who would certainly do that.

Remember all the stories about normal Americans having their ID stolen? The assumption was that Nigeria scammers did it. I now think it was much more likely stolen by someone like Pedro or Akmed or Vladimir looking to paper over an illegal.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:05 AM (iFTx/)

11 I recently got my new "Real" ID from the state of Texas and the font is so small, I can't read it. And the letters are raised, so I'm sure my wallet will rub them off at some point.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

12 All I know is the Real ID program in PA is a shit show. I rolled into the KoP drivers license center a few weeks ago and the line for Real ID was out the door and snaking through the parking lot. Eff that, I walked to the front desk, asked the estimated wait time, the state drone shrugged. I asked how long to just renew my license - 10 minutes. I'll use my passport to fly. PennDot could fuck up a one car funeral.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:06 AM (NgqoH)

13 Last driver's license renewal, I had to go RealID. Needed to provide the state of Texas with birth certificate & DD214. Took six months to get an original birth certificate from New York City. That will be my last contact with that benighted state.

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2025 11:06 AM (OawYk)

14
Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:00 AM (0E0In)

SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (bFu5X)

*brohug*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

15 Last driver's license renewal, I had to go RealID. Needed to provide the state of Texas with birth certificate & DD214. Took six months to get an original birth certificate from New York City. That will be my last contact with that benighted state.
Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2025 11:06 AM (OawYk)

It took me 9 weeks and $60 to get mine from the Communist Commonwealth of Illinois. Hopefully that's the last dealing with that shithole I'll ever have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

16
If it's both (and that would be my guess), then the program is clearly pointless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Of course it's pointless, except to make us normie 2nd class citizens suffer and pay taxes for the grifting assholes that administer this fraudulent horseshit excuse for identification.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 19, 2025 11:07 AM (QVmho)

17 A “judge” ordered the DoT to continue issuing CDLs to illegals after Sean Duffy put an end to it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:08 AM (/AUU2)

18 Took six months to get an original birth certificate from New York City. That will be my last contact with that benighted state.
Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2025 11:06 AM (OawYk)

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I still have my original one. So if it holds up, I won't have to deal with them at all.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:08 AM (DRSnL)

19 He's not only an illegal alien, he's an illegal alien who is wanted as a terrorist in his native country of Uzbekistan but was released into the country by the Biden Administration.

Because there’s no evidence whatsoever that giving terrorists control of large vehicles with massive cargo space enables terrorist attacks and fiery deaths.

This is literal zero-dimensional chess.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 19, 2025 11:08 AM (olroh)

20 I am pretty old, though, so I'm sure it'll disintegrate here soon.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:09 AM (DRSnL)

21 I just renewed my license. I was asked do I want a Real ID. I said no thanks.

When I fly - which is like 3-4 times a year - I take my passport card with me. No biggie. And no fucking around with all the real ID bullshit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:09 AM (/AUU2)

22 It doesn't matter to illegals. They'll drive anyway with or without a license. And there will be no consequences if caught.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 11:10 AM (g8Ew8)

23 I am pretty old, though, so I'm sure it'll disintegrate here soon.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:09 AM (DRSnL)

Store it in a vacuum seal pouch like you would a comforter for the summer. It'll be fine.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

24 I opted into the photo verification at TSA Pre (no extra charge) this morning.

They move you to the front of the line and, this is the great part, no one asked to see my ID.

Just cruised on through.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2025 11:10 AM (LYCcI)

25 When I fly - which is like 3-4 times a year - I take my passport card with me. No biggie. And no fucking around with all the real ID bullshit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:09 AM (/AUU2)

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Yep, same here. Plus I have my military ID. Although that one didn't work when I flew last month.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:11 AM (DRSnL)

26 What does the DOT/Sean Duffy have to say about this?

There are people in trucking who have been documenting the CDLs for illegals, as well as the numerous foreign trucking companies popping up with a similar "No Name Given" -- for the business -- and allegedly hundreds allegedly operating out of a single residence.

This is huge.

For example: 1 illegal Uzbeki, 5 IDs
https://tinyurl.com/5b8nmwn2

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:11 AM (GbwPZ)

27 They're not scrapping them because of the whole "If you don't have one, you can't board a plane" thing.

And I can't get one, because I don't have my original birth certificate. My parents didn't keep it.

Posted by: XTC at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (UnA8+)

28 When I fly - which is like 3-4 times a year - I take my passport card with me. No biggie. And no fucking around with all the real ID bullshit.

Did you not have to do “all the real ID bullshit” for your passport? That seems like a loophole big enough to… drive a semi through.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (olroh)

29 The root cause of this, like most issues with illegals, is the trucking companies that hire them. There’s no way to inspect every driver. But a few high profile raids of trucking companies including arrests of executives… that may get some companies to think twice about using illegals.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (/AUU2)

30 Pennsylvania may issue licenses to foreigners at its discretion, and it is common for resident aliens to have domestic licenses if they drive.

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Where illegals are also registered to vote thanks to Motor Voter Abuse -- going back to Califzuela in the 90's.

I saw Motor Voter Abuse open for The Beatings Will Continue by Exodus on the Headbanger's Ball Tour in '93.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (vV8zi)

31 Did you not have to do “all the real ID bullshit” for your passport? That seems like a loophole big enough to… drive a semi through.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (olroh)

Not really no. I’ve had mine for 40 years and at renewal time it’s pretty much automatic. Just get a new photo each time.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (/AUU2)

32 When I fly - which is like 3-4 times a year - I take my passport card with me. No biggie. And no fucking around with all the real ID bullshit.

me too

and btw PA was fucking around here, as per normal. they were handing out Real IDs to illegals like candy and tormenting PA residents.

they find that fun, bureaucrats do

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (emBoF)

33 It took me 9 weeks and $60 to get mine from the Communist Commonwealth of Illinois. Hopefully that's the last dealing with that shithole I'll ever have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Similar for me with the District of ~~Corruptia~~ Columbia.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (OUMaO)

34 I recently got my new "Real" ID from the state of Texas and the font is so small, I can't read it. And the letters are raised, so I'm sure my wallet will rub them off at some point.
Posted by: Sponge

Mine has a see thru section on the bottom right in the shape of the state of Texas.
Wow. Just got it in September. Doesn't expire until 2033.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (9FLHx)

35 And I can't get one, because I don't have my original birth certificate. My parents didn't keep it.
Posted by: XTC at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (UnA8+)

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You should be able to get a replacement from the registrar from the city or county where you were born.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (DRSnL)

36 Someone is lying here,

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Power of *AND* -- Embrace!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (vV8zi)

37 >Just cruised on through.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2025 11:10 AM (LYCcI)

TSA Pre is decent. No taking shoes off, and no need to remove liquids from carry-on bags. Plus the security line is usually shorter and faster. Worth the $90 or whatever the fee is if you fly frequently.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:15 AM (NgqoH)

38 I wasn't given the option to not get a RealID License........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

39 TSA Pre is decent. No taking shoes off, and no need to remove liquids from carry-on bags. Plus the security line is usually shorter and faster. Worth the $90 or whatever the fee is if you fly frequently.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:15 AM (NgqoH)

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It's $85 every five years. Totally worth it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:16 AM (DRSnL)

40 The gubbmint loves them some unfit burdensome requirements. Pointless is what they do best.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 19, 2025 11:16 AM (2Insx)

41 The "Real ID" has been issued to tens of thousands of illegals in every state. A clerk here in KY was detained after it was revealed she was "selling" Real ID's for a couple hundred dollars to illegals. All they had to do was give her the money, she'd take their picture and falsify everything else.

The damn things are mailed out. You don't even have to sign for it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:16 AM (NwnyJ)

42 Clear or TSA Pre are definitely worth the cost if you even fly a few times a year. Especially if you fly during the holidays. That hour long TSA line is 10 mins.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:16 AM (/AUU2)

43 A “judge” ordered the DoT to continue issuing CDLs to illegals after Sean Duffy put an end to it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:08 AM

States issue CDL's not the fed. What the judge ordered is that the fed can't put the new restrictions on CDL's without complying with the law by publishing rule changes in the federal registrar and allowing a 60 day comment period.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:17 AM (0N4FZ)

44 ‘ was released into the country by the Biden Administration.’
The more I hear about this Biden, the more I want to see him hanging from a tree.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 19, 2025 11:17 AM (jbnUc)

45 No taking shoes off

TSA Pre is very useful; but the “no taking shoes off”, in my experience, just means taking shoes off after the machine beeps. Given how cheaply things are made nowadays, I’m somewhat amazed at how many shoes, even practically slippers, still have enough metal in them to set off the metal detectors.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 19, 2025 11:17 AM (olroh)

46 Mine has a see thru section on the bottom right in the shape of the state of Texas.
Wow. Just got it in September. Doesn't expire until 2033.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM (9FLHx)

*checks again*

Yeah, mine has the clear Texas with my picture in it.....the letters aren't raised. That was SpongeBro's ID that he renewed back in May (but didn't receive until August because.....uh.....not sure). Mine expires in 33 as well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

47 Real ID was supposed to be ready in what 2005 I think. Perfect example of how government can take a simple concept like an enhanced drivers license and fuck it up for 20 years.

I can only imagine the billions that were stolen implementing this by consultants over the two decades.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:18 AM (/AUU2)

48 The press can be forgiven for missing this, because press men are all retarded.

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... and their shit's all gay.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:18 AM (vV8zi)

49 And I can't get one, because I don't have my original birth certificate. My parents didn't keep it.
Posted by: XTC at November 19, 2025 11:12 AM (UnA8+)

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You should be able to get a replacement from the registrar from the city or county where you were born.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:14 AM

I can't speak to other states, but I last got a copy of my long form birth certificate at the state level. Walked in, got a copy. I couldn't tell you how long the response time would have been if I had been out of state.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 11:19 AM (bFu5X)

50 My biggest takeaway is that the art world is a wretched hive of scum and villainy and perverted faggotry.

Historically, it was always , umm..."colorful"...given the nature of artists and genius creative types...but starting in the late 19c it really began the descent into madness.

western art, anyway
Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2025 11:04 AM (dCxaZ)
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It was like the documentary was Hollywood fiction with stock characters right out of central casting.

The young ambitious DEI artist rebelling (fakely) against The Man? Check.

The older, affluent faggots (Warhol, etc) using the art world as a hunting ground for desperate young dick? Check.

Shady dealers and gallery owners with almost certain mafia ties eager for the next pump-and-dump scheme? Check.

The motley assortment of 70s weirdos and junkies floating around like remoras in the stew? Check.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

51
It's $85 every five years. Totally worth it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:16 AM (DRSnL)

It was amazing when I traveled a lot right up to the point where everyone seemingly had TSAPreCheck and the line was longer than the conventional peon line.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

52 When getting a copy of original birth certificate, get a few, and keep them in separate locations.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:20 AM (PCK5/)

53 Well, today was like Pre Plus. You opt in to "photo verification" when you check in online, and it is a separate Pre line. You literally get sent right to the front of the Pre line. It is like Lear, except free.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2025 11:20 AM (2J4yK)

54 any real citizen - that is, a second-class citizen"

And a sucker. Why, exactly, should I attempt to follow established protocols in any aspect of public life?

Beuller?

(Also, precheck at DC Airports is far more crowded. Many important people)

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:21 AM (XuXeR)

55 If it's both (and that would be my guess), then the program is clearly pointless.

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Follow. The. Booty.

It's grift all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:21 AM (vV8zi)

56 It was amazing when I traveled a lot right up to the point where everyone seemingly had TSAPreCheck and the line was longer than the conventional peon line.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

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Yeah, that does happen sometimes. Plus people who have CLEAR go to the front of the line. I ain't paying $200 a year for that shit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:21 AM (DRSnL)

57 And I can't get one, because I don't have my original birth certificate. My parents didn't keep it.
Posted by: XTC

Your state should have the original. The hospital should have sent it to the state capitol or wherever the Bureau of Vital Records are kept for your state.
IF the birth was ever registered with your birth state.

I had a dozen copies of mine, but when I went to get my passport, I had to contact Jefferson City in Missouri for a certified copy of my original bc.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:21 AM (9FLHx)

58 New investigation from Daily Mail on the highway carnage caused by trucking industry parasitization, Biden's immigration policies, and CDL scamming - featuring commentary from many of us on FreightX

https://tinyurl.com/ycx5jy97

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:22 AM (GbwPZ)

59 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:22 AM (PCK5/)

60 The obvious next step is for the government to require all citizens to have digital IDs, with machine readable chips placed in our right hands or foreheads. That won't fix the illegal aliens receiving CDLs, but it should stop the complaining about it.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 19, 2025 11:23 AM (2ap+5)

61 I can't speak to other states, but I last got a copy of my long form birth certificate at the state level. Walked in, got a copy. I couldn't tell you how long the response time would have been if I had been out of state.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Some states allow you to request it online. I wasn't driving from Dallas to Jeff City, Mo just for a bc.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:23 AM (9FLHx)

62 So nice to have all the illegals off the roads today. Be nice if it could be for-evah.

Posted by: sidney at November 19, 2025 11:23 AM (Uy/WF)

63 >Yeah, that does happen sometimes. Plus people who have CLEAR go to the front of the line. I ain't paying $200 a year for that shit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:21 AM (DRSnL)

I would have gladly paid that when I was a road warrior. I only fly four or five times a year now. Generally TSA Pre lines are efficient and fast.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:23 AM (NgqoH)

64 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:22 AM (PCK5/)

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I don't have the original original. I do have the one with my married name. Which is also very old.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:24 AM (DRSnL)

65 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card?

I did, up until my wallet was stolen several years ago. Now I have a replacement copy, and the original surrounding cardstock that told me to always carry my Social Security card with me “in your purse or wallet”, but to keep the surrounding cardstock “with other important papers”.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 19, 2025 11:24 AM (olroh)

66
Fook flying. They are making it clear that making it as inconvenient as possible is their goal plus the airlines are making it clear that making it safe is off the menu, too.

Let's all play, "Where's the Illegal CDL Holder on This Highway?" instead!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:24 AM (xG4kz)

67 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal

F them. They also said it would never be used as ID.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:25 AM (9FLHx)

68 I would have gladly paid that when I was a road warrior. I only fly four or five times a year now. Generally TSA Pre lines are efficient and fast.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:23 AM (NgqoH)

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We don't even have a CLEAR line at my airport, so it wouldn't be worth it except for return flights.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:25 AM (DRSnL)

69 Ah, it was a covid-era gift from Biden:

In 2021, the Biden administration urged states to find ways to approve more licenses, as the country grappled with COVID-era logistics challenges that snared the nation's supply chains.

From February 2022 onwards, driving training and test centers were allowed to self-certify their own programs, meaning with no state or federal oversight. There are now over 32,000 self-registered 'training providers' listed in the federal registry.
Biden's reforms also led to states massively expanding the issuance of non-domicile CDLs, granting them to many who had an EAD, even if they had entered the country illegally.

This came hot on the heels of the watering down of English language requirements: previously drivers who could not converse in English with a police officer or official could have their license revoked. Obama-era rules from 2015 had rescinded that order.

Applicants can now take their written test for the CDL in almost any language: Virginia currently offers tests in 26, including the West African dialect Twi, Nepali, Pashto and Haitian Creole.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:25 AM (GbwPZ)

70
I still have my original Social Security card and my original Selective Service card.

Somewhere ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:26 AM (xG4kz)

71 Real ID was supposed to be ready in what 2005 I think. Perfect example of how government can take a simple concept like an enhanced drivers license and fuck it up for 20 years.

I can only imagine the billions that were stolen implementing this by consultants over the two decades.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 19, 2025 11:18 AM (/AUU2)
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I don't think they fucked it up. I think it was deliberate sabotage. RealID -- if done right -- would make it harder for illegals to get licenses and to be able to fly. That was the original point. It was a genuine security measure.

But illegal immigration is a trillion-dollar racket, and nobody wanted to see that end, so the states dragged their feet for decades, hoping the whole thing would just go away.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/)

72 Wonder...should I use my Texas LTC at the airport?

Hmmm

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:27 AM (XuXeR)

73 Just got my ID drivers license today, and one of the requirements was a birth certificate. It took a couple of weeks and cost about 40 bucks or something. Wife also needed our marriage certificate. Not really a big deal, to be honest.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 19, 2025 11:27 AM (PSEDc)

74 My orinal SSC, signed by me in childish cursive ( I was 13 ). What a blast from the past!!

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:27 AM (PCK5/)

75 >But illegal immigration is a trillion-dollar racket, and nobody wanted to see that end, so the states dragged their feet for decades, hoping the whole thing would just go away.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/)

Embrace the healing power of and. The govt is malicious AND incompetent.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:27 AM (NgqoH)

76 I can't wait for the REALLY REAL ID to start being required in 2035.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (OVPJT)

77
Applicants can now take their written test for the CDL in almost any language: Virginia currently offers tests in 26, including the West African dialect Twi, Nepali, Pashto and Haitian Creole.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:25 AM (GbwPZ)

Pf*ck Pthat.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

78 >>I don't think they fucked it up. I think it was deliberate sabotage. RealID -- if done right -- would make it harder for illegals to get licenses and to be able to fly. That was the original point. It was a genuine security measure.

This

And it seems that the Real IDs for illegals is a simple crime: people at DMVs do it for cash - no need for fake ID when you've got corrupt bureaucrats happy to help!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (GbwPZ)

79 States issue CDL's not the fed. What the judge ordered is that the fed can't put the new restrictions on CDL's without complying with the law by publishing rule changes in the federal registrar and allowing a 60 day comment period.
Posted by: Mister Scott

The "rules" about having to read & speak Engrish have been in effect since the 80's or before. They just weren't enforced.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (9FLHx)

80
Any CDL driver with a cooking station riding shotgun looses the CDL license AND the vehicle gets confiscated and destroyed.

IRREGAL!! SAVVY?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (xG4kz)

81 Wonder...should I use my Texas LTC at the airport?

Hmmm
Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:27 AM (XuXeR)

It IS a government issued ID, so it should, theoretically, work.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

82 He's not only an illegal alien, he's an illegal alien who is wanted as a terrorist in his native country of Uzbekistan but was released into the country by the Biden Administration.

Who are we to criticize their culture??

Besides, it’s just a shining thread woven into the rich, vibrant fabric that makes up the gorgeous tapestry of Our Precious Democracy & Diversity. They come here out of LOVE, h8r!!!

Posted by: Your Ordinary Whack Job Leftist at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (nC+3t)

83 You know...the music to Carmen is like...really famous.

The more you know.

*rainbow*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

84 Also, our host's q: Who is lying here?

All are. Daily.

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (XuXeR)

85 I still have my original Social Security card and my original Selective Service card.

Somewhere ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:26 AM (xG4kz)

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Probably like mine -- sitting at the bottom of a lake with my lost ammo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (jE4Ik)

86 "Who is lying here?"

That's easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c&t=1s

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (uWKK8)

87 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal

Apparently, the cards contain "security features" (stop laughing) and lamination messes that up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (ExV1e)

88 Wonder...should I use my Texas LTC at the airport?

Hmmm
Posted by: man

According to the state, it's every bit of legal ID as a DL.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (9FLHx)

89 A by product of the increased attention paid to the trucking industry is that the drivers, illegal or not, are taking to back roads to avoid the Interstates and the inspection stations.

I've seen more semis going up and down our two lane road in the past several months than ever before. It's a feeder to a road that then goes up to Louisville. No Interstate.

It's happening everywhere.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (NwnyJ)

90 makes up the gorgeous tapestry "

And food. Don't forget the delightful variety of ethnic dishes!

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (XuXeR)

91 I took about 50 flights this year. Airports suck. People suck. CLT really sucks.

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (uQzkA)

92 I don't think they fucked it up. I think it was deliberate sabotage. RealID -- if done right -- would make it harder for illegals to get licenses and to be able to fly. That was the original point. It was a genuine security measure.

This

And it seems that the Real IDs for illegals is a simple crime: people at DMVs do it for cash - no need for fake ID when you've got corrupt bureaucrats happy to help!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:28 AM (GbwPZ)
____

Yea, although even if the DMV isn't corrupt the docs you need to show to get a RealID are easily faked. It's shit like utility bills, tax notices, etc. Literally anyone with a computer and a copy of Acrobat can scan in any bill or notice and forge the applicant's name. It would take me not even 5 minutes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

93
I can't wait for the REALLY REAL ID to start being required in 2035.
Posted by: Stu Podaso

SO REAL IT'S SCARY! ID will be brought on line in 2040

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (xG4kz)

94 Apparently, the cards contain "security features" (stop laughing) and lamination messes that up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Not from 1978 they don't.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (9FLHx)

95 So, it will be soon that the FedGov takes over the CDL system, because Democrats and blue shitholes f*cked it up for everyone else.

States should start denying the use of CDL's from certain states that appear to be hellbent on murdering innocent Americans by issuing licenses to illegals allowing them to control 12 ton lethal road missiles on the nations highways.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

96 You know...the music to Carmen is like...really famous.

The more you know.

*rainbow*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

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Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (jE4Ik)

97
...makes up the gorgeous tapestry "

Most of that purported gorgeousity is vomit. Or feces.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:32 AM (xG4kz)

98 You know...the music to Carmen is like...really famous.

The more you know.

*rainbow*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

Music of Cartman > Music to Carmen

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

99 Anarcho Tyranny in action. They pass strict laws then exempt the lowest criminal elements from them. But enforce then strictly against political opponents.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (uPjcb)

100 US roads are dangerous enough without additional, unnecessary, potentially deadly risks. Its (safety is) sooooo frikin obvious and easy to focus on.

But leadership, whether it be businesses or gubmit or drivers themselves, are simply too stupid these days to keep their eye on the ball.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (6qf1m)

101 Not from 1978 they don't.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (9FLHx)

How d'ya know? Maybe the social security drone licks them to verify that they're valid and they're supposed to taste of cinnamon.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)

102 In Houston they have a lot of problems with 'independent' truckers parking on side streets walking distance from their apartments. Some streets look like a trucking firm yard.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (KDPiq)

103 more semis going up and down our two lane road in the past several months than ever before"

This. The back road routes between Houston and Dallas have more truck traffic than I've ever seen...

Not from 1978 they don't"

My lawn. Offa it .

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:34 AM (XuXeR)

104 The drive to concentrate power in DC is relentless. Every situation, every incident, results in centralization. A bipartisan effort.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (PCK5/)

105 We're Not Bullshitting You, This Time It Really Is a REAL ID.

Posted by: Coming in 2050 at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (Y1sOo)

106 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal

Apparently, the cards contain "security features" (stop laughing) and lamination messes that up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM

I have my original SS card from 1973 and it is laminated.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (0N4FZ)

107 >>I can't wait for the REALLY REAL ID to start being required in 2035.
Posted by: Stu Podaso

"Heh, no.
-- Globalists all set to force Digital ID on us

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (GbwPZ)

108 Does Bozorov have a accomplice named Natasha Fatale?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (w9Wax)

109 This. The back road routes between Houston and Dallas have more truck traffic than I've ever seen...

They've had to widen Rt 82 in North Texas because there's so much damn semi traffic on it and truckers have figured out that I-30 sucks infected donkey balls through Dallas.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

110
I have my original SS card from 1973 and it is laminated.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (0N4FZ)

I was always told that laminating your SS card was a BAD idea. They can consider it counterfeit because they can't examine the paper and print.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

111 Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

Texas requires , or at least I was required to produce a birth certificate.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM (KDPiq)

112
Apparently, the cards contain "security features" (stop laughing) and lamination messes that up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Yes, indeedy! They are imprinted on Booger Mosaic card stock. There is at least one booger guaranteed to be present in each card.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM (xG4kz)

113 Does Bozorov have a accomplice named Natasha Fatale?"

And works for fearless leader?

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:37 AM (XuXeR)

114 I'm glad I don't fly anymore.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 11:38 AM (g8Ew8)

115
Texas requires , or at least I was required to produce a birth certificate.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM (KDPiq)

BC or Passport. I was loaded for bear when renewing mine last month and they only requested one or the other.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

116 widen Rt 82 in North Texas"

Need to widen/fix/repair route from Houston to Austin...

Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:38 AM (XuXeR)

117 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

I assume obtaining a passport requires a birth certificate?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (KDPiq)

118 RealID -- if done right -- would make it harder for illegals to get licenses and to be able to fly. That was the original point.
——-

Enrico Fermi was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, a real achievement, not the faggy post-modern “economics” ersatz kind. The prize money in those days was substantial and seeing the writing on the wall (His wife was Jewish) he un-asses Europe for the U.S.A.

He was fought over by various American universities like the last box of Chicken Nuggets at 2 AM. He ended up at the University of Chicago.

But for a time, he was not allowed to fly on aircraft anywhere in the US simply because he was an Alien. Technically speaking, an Enemy Alien, as a state of war existed with Italy.

Plyler vs Doe, and so-called “Birthright” citizenship put the nails in the coffin of any sane migration policies. This was of course deliberate, with malice aforethought and psychological manipulation of the worst sort. Guilt trip everyone into letting their guard down.

Illegal aliens have a “right” or automatic claim on your resources, just because. Some clown in a robe said so, so it must be true.

Posted by: Your Ordinary Whack Job Leftist at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (nC+3t)

119 I make a point of keeping my passport up to date. Too many stories about expired passport hassles out there.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (PCK5/)

120 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal
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I was led to believe back in the '70s by comic book and Boys Life ads that I could make a fortune selling metal social security cards door to door. Mom wouldn't let me try.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (ggOdn)

121 Does Bozorov have a accomplice named Natasha Fatale?"

And works for fearless leader?
Posted by: man at November 19, 2025 11:37 AM (XuXeR)
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The Pottsylvania accent gave him away.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (xDEVV)

122
I assume obtaining a passport requires a birth certificate?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (KDPiq)

I don't remember, but don't think I had a valid copy of my BC when getting mine originally. I only had multiple photocopies of mine from 1978, which aren't acceptable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

123 I have my original SS card from 1973 and it is laminated.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (0N4FZ)

I was always told that laminating your SS card was a BAD idea. They can consider it counterfeit because they can't examine the paper and print.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM

The Navy took it and had no issues.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (0N4FZ)

124
How d'ya know? Maybe the social security drone licks them to verify that they're valid and they're supposed to taste of cinnamon.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

This brought to mind the Periodic Table of Elements color keyed to inform you which elements were safe to lick (or taste).

Pro tip: most weren't safe.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (xG4kz)

125 120 Does everyone here have their original Social Security card? Do not laminate them.
Posted by: tubal
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I was led to believe back in the '70s by comic book and Boys Life ads that I could make a fortune selling metal social security cards door to door. Mom wouldn't let me try.
Posted by: jhawk90 at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (ggOdn)

Your Mom sounded wise. Also, street smart.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (PCK5/)

126 Not from 1978 they don't.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2025 11:31 AM (9FLHx)

How d'ya know? Maybe the social security drone licks them to verify that they're valid and they're supposed to taste of cinnamon.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)

I've heard they taste like dick. TSA loves them.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew8)

127 I have never been asked to produce my SS card.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:42 AM (KDPiq)

128 I make a point of keeping my passport up to date. Too many stories about expired passport hassles out there.
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:39 AM (PCK5/)

Supposedly, you can't travel with a passport that expires within 6 months of taking an international trip. I found that retarded as what's the point of an expiration date if it's expired 6 months prior?

It ended up taking me 6 months to renew my about to be expired passport and I missed a company trip because of it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

129 I keep my SSC in the bag containing my gold and silver in my gun safe.

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:42 AM (PCK5/)

130 I have my original laminated SS card, I've never had a problem with it.

It's amazing that pretty much the most important identifying document is a flimsy piece of paper you are supposed to carry around with you for up to 100 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 19, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)

131 They've had to widen Rt 82 in North Texas because there's so much damn semi traffic on it and truckers have figured out that I-30 sucks infected donkey balls through Dallas.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

When I first started going to texas, probably around 1999-2000, I was seeing highways that weren't even open, like they were in reserve. There was another highway in the dallas area that had a shit ton of lanes. I'm thinking shit man, super wide highways, and highways that are done and just waiting. Oh the best one that I loved was the quick turn around at the bottom of exit ramps. If you screwed up and took the wrong exit you don't need to sit at a light, you had your own lane to just zip around and get back on the highway. That alone made want to move to texas. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:43 AM (snZF9)

132 Yes, indeedy! They are imprinted on Booger Mosaic card stock. There is at least one booger guaranteed to be present in each card.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:36 AM (xG4kz)

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"That snot funny, man!"

/Judge Smails' son in Caddyshack

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:43 AM (Wai4g)

133
The Navy took it and had no issues.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (0N4FZ)

I mean, won't they take just about anyone? I mean, they almost took me......Until the recruiter said "You better not have asthma......" I never saw him again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

134
"That snot funny, man!"

/Judge Smails' son in Caddyshack
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:43 AM (Wai4g)

"Another $20 he eats it....."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

135 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:43 AM (snZF9)

Yes the service road U turn is awesome.

But if you travel in Austin the joke is A&M engineers designed their highway system as a prank.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (KDPiq)

136 If the problem is with the states, why are they not revoking REAL ID certifications from states that do this and invalidating their existing REAL IDs?
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That's the way to move this issue forward. Nobody should be allowed to fly if their "REAL ID" is from California (as just one example).

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (TN0g+)

137 The Navy took it and had no issues.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:40 AM (0N4FZ)

I mean, won't they take just about anyone? I mean, they almost took me......Until the recruiter said "You better not have asthma......" I never saw him again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)
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My Dad was in line at the Navy recruiters on Dec. 8, 1941. Everything was fine until they said, "Take off your glasses and read the chart." He was back on the street five minutes later.

Then the Army drafted him and put him on a boat...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (xDEVV)

138 But if you travel in Austin the joke is A&M engineers designed their highway system as a prank.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (KDPiq)

Upper and Lower, where they don't give advanced notice what lane to be in for which route and they both get backed the f*ck up anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

139 I had to have my SS card reissued. My folks originally had it issued to me when I was like 10, with my nickname instead of my birth name.

Had to have it reissued when I started work. At 13 or 14. Doing piddly shit for a neighbor who owned a gift shop. Got a actual paycheck. For like $20 every other week.

It was awesome. Until tax time. I have a long history of IRS hate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (NwnyJ)

140 Califzuela alleviated some crowded freeways in some urban & suburban commute nightmares by building toll roads.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:47 AM (Wai4g)

141
Then the Army drafted him and put him on a boat...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (xDEVV)

Isn't it ironic......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

142 I had to have my SS card reissued. My folks originally had it issued to me when I was like 10, with my nickname instead of my birth name.

Had to have it reissued when I started work. At 13 or 14. Doing piddly shit for a neighbor who owned a gift shop. Got a actual paycheck. For like $20 every other week.

It was awesome. Until tax time. I have a long history of IRS hate.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (NwnyJ)

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I didn't even have a social security card until I got a job when I was 14.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:48 AM (DRSnL)

143 Mannix!

*Jazzy music plays*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (xcxpd)

144 Yes the service road U turn is awesome.

But if you travel in Austin the joke is A&M engineers designed their highway system as a prank.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (KDPiq)

Thats the other thing, service roads. You don't see those out here. We got 13 colony syndrome. A bunch of boats came ashore a few hundred years ago and just carved a road and built shit with no thought.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (snZF9)

145 I've seen more semis going up and down our two lane road in the past several months than ever before. It's a feeder to a road that then goes up to Louisville. No Interstate.

It's happening everywhere.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:30 AM (NwnyJ)

Set up a trail cam to snag license plate numbers. Send video to your state police and to DHS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (npFr7)

146 I have no clue how old my SS card is......I don't remember having to get it replaced, but know I've had one for a LONG time.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

147 143 Mannix!

*Jazzy music plays*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (xcxpd)

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Careful.

Pretty sure that guy's a cop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

148 I had to have my SS card reissued. My folks originally had it issued to me when I was like 10, with my nickname instead of my birth name.

Had to have it reissued when I started work. At 13 or 14. Doing piddly shit for a neighbor who owned a gift shop. Got a actual paycheck. For like $20 every other week.

It was awesome. Until tax time. I have a long history of IRS hate.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (NwnyJ)

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I didn't even have a social security card until I got a job when I was 14.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:48 AM (DRSnL)

My parents ALMOST didn't sign us kids up for Social Security as they view it as Socialist hate crime. I have mixed feelings about their ultimate decision to get me one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (xcxpd)

149 You know...the music to Carmen is like...really famous.

The more you know.

*rainbow*
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The music of Rainbow is like...really famous. I'm a huge Ritchie Blackmore fan, and although I like his work with Deep Purple, I prefer his work with Rainbow.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)

150 146 I have no clue how old my SS card is......I don't remember having to get it replaced, but know I've had one for a LONG time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

Clay Tablet??

Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

151 Then the Army drafted him and put him on a boat...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:46 AM (xDEVV)

Isn't it ironic......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)
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Yeah, and his glasses got just as wet as they would have in the Navy.

OTOH, having read "Neptune's Inferno," I'm just as glad the Navy didn't take him, because he might have wound up on one of those ships...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (xDEVV)

152 Thats the other thing, service roads. You don't see those out here. We got 13 colony syndrome. A bunch of boats came ashore a few hundred years ago and just carved a road and built shit with no thought.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (snZF9)

The highways in NE PA suck....man, you'd better be ready entering or exiting a highway because it's RIGHT into the action, buddy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

153 But if you travel in Austin the joke is A&M engineers designed their highway system as a prank.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:45 AM (KDPiq)

Truth

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2025 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)

154
Clay Tablet??
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

Copper plate.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

155 >The highways in NE PA suck....man, you'd better be ready entering or exiting a highway because it's RIGHT into the action, buddy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

The Merritt Parkway has entered the chat.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:52 AM (NgqoH)

156 Carmen is wonderful. Every song is great.

Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)

157 I didn't even have a social security card until I got a job when I was 14.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:48 AM (DRSnL)

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In Junior High School (Las Vegas), they had all of us 8th graders register for Social Security in the mid 70s.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:52 AM (Wai4g)

158 The music of Rainbow is like...really famous. I'm a huge Ritchie Blackmore fan, and although I like his work with Deep Purple, I prefer his work with Rainbow.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)

You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/YIltTc04bm4

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

159 Clay Tablet??
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

Copper plate.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)
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*Ea-nasir has entered the chat*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:53 AM (xDEVV)

160 Mannix!

*Jazzy music plays*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (xcxpd)

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My divorced mom had a crush on him ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (Wai4g)

161 I have my original SS card from 1973 and it is laminated.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2025 11:35 AM (0N4FZ)

Mine from 1964, and its laminated as well. Never been rejected, beginning with the army in 1967 when I was drafted..

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (5xuJ/)

162 CA required a passport (I have one, but expired) or a birth certificate (still had a copy since I needed it to apply for passport) plus two documents showing proof of residency (utility bill, mortgage statement, property tax bill, etc.). The Wifey needed same, plus marriage certificate.

I couldn't use my current driver's license even to prove residency even though it contained my current address. DMV lady at the counter was surprisingly competent and quite unimpressed with the process.

I wanted to keep my old license to get me out of Federal jury duty. "Sorry, I can't enter a federal building since I don't have a REAL ID, only this old style driver's license.", but we had to fly for a vacation.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (ufggD)

163
I bet that FOIA requests pissed off Sumerian bureaucrats to no end.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (xG4kz)

164 The Merritt Parkway has entered the chat.

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The only road in the USA that scares me. I'd rather sit in the I-95 traffic jam when I drive up to Boston to see my daughter.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (G3WRK)

165 Carmen is wonderful. Every song is great.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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Toreador-a
Don't spit on the floor-a
Use the cuspidor-a
That's what it's for-a

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (xDEVV)

166 In Houston they have a lot of problems with 'independent' truckers parking on side streets walking distance from their apartments. Some streets look like a trucking firm yard.
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One of the dirty secrets of the trucking industry, the way I see it - virtually everything we buy is transported by truck at some point.

But everyone hates trucks, and truckers, and don’t want to pay them what they are worth. That’s why they are importing Terrorists from Uzbekistan, after all.

I’ve never been a trucker, but it’s a different world. No place to park. You don’t get paid while waiting to pick up a load, which may take hours or days. It used to be, like so many blue collar jobs, a way to make a living. Professional drivers for the most part, salt of the earth types.

Now it’s just a minimum wage hell hole, administered through fly by night nicklefvckers. Nobody wants to do it, so anybody who can fog a mirror gets the nod these days.

Happy Motoring!

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 11:55 AM (yKoRs)

167 My scariest time in my life was traveling south on the Taconic pkwy in NY , south of 84 at night while it was snowing. Winding two lanes each side divided by only a guard rail with no shoulder and cliffs on either side of you. Headlights continually directly in your face .

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 11:55 AM (KDPiq)

168 The music of Rainbow is like...really famous. I'm a huge Ritchie Blackmore fan, and although I like his work with Deep Purple, I prefer his work with Rainbow.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)

Ritchie Blackmoore is a legit musical genius. Hard to work with, though.

I like his bardcore music like in 'Blackmoore's Night'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 11:56 AM (xcxpd)

169 The DMV at Mississippi & Raritan in Denver. I don't know what it looks like now during Trump II, but up to now you could go there any time after 9.00a, and observe a teeming throng of Aztecs being issued Real IDs. The parking lot always looked like it was sacrifice-day at Tenochtitlan.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2025 11:56 AM (BI5O2)

170 The new AI agent features of modern pc's are genius. Now your computer can take control of itself and email your web browsing history to all your work contacts, lickety split!

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2025 11:56 AM (RTkRD)

171 Hubbymayhem is a truck driver and this shit with illegal aliens driving big rigs burns his biscuits something awful. The man gets severely het up and turns a frightening shade of red. I have to be the voice of reason in these cases. Me. ME! The voice of reason!!

If we are ever in a situation where I am the voice of reason, then we are in a very, very terrible situation and may God have mercy on us all.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 19, 2025 11:57 AM (2J/Lj)

172 >The only road in the USA that scares me. I'd rather sit in the I-95 traffic jam when I drive up to Boston to see my daughter.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (G3WRK)

The stretch from the GW through Yonkers to CT is not much fun either.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2025 11:57 AM (NgqoH)

173 The music of Rainbow is like...really famous. I'm a huge Ritchie Blackmore fan, and although I like his work with Deep Purple, I prefer his work with Rainbow.
Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)

You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/YIltTc04bm4

Thank you! The years with Dio produced some epic stuff! And what's interesting is that both Dio and Blackmore have/had reputations of being "difficult to work with", and yet I've never found a single Dio interview where he had anything other than respect for Blackmore.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 11:57 AM (TN0g+)

174 wanted to keep my old license to get me out of Federal jury duty. "Sorry, I can't enter a federal building since I don't have a REAL ID,

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💡

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2025 11:57 AM (g47mK)

175 That will be the new excuse too.

Out: I was hacked!
In: That wasn't me sending those creepy messages it was my AI agent

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (RTkRD)

176 Carmen is wonderful. Every song is great.
Posted by: Bulg

Challenge accepted. - Spike Jones and His City Slickers

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (ufggD)

177 I wanted to keep my old license to get me out of Federal jury duty. "Sorry, I can't enter a federal building since I don't have a REAL ID, only this old style driver's license.", but we had to fly for a vacation.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (ufggD)

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You don't need a REAL ID to fly, and it pisses me off that they made everyone think you do.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (DRSnL)

178 OT-This is hilarious. From SMOD in a thread below

Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX), a bona fide member of “The Squad,” badly misfired in an attempt to attack EPA head Lee Zeldin for receiving money from one “Jeffrey Epstein” – a doctor in New York, not the convicted billionaire sex offender who killed himself.

Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2025 07:44 AM

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (8Xy/A)

179 Thats the other thing, service roads. You don't see those out here. We got 13 colony syndrome. A bunch of boats came ashore a few hundred years ago and just carved a road and built shit with no thought.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM (snZF9)

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The streets in and around Salt Lake City all run and intersect like a grid horizontally and vertically with a concomitant address coordinates system.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:59 AM (FSjr0)

180 In Junior High School (Las Vegas), they had all of us 8th graders register for Social Security in the mid 70s.
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That was when the IRS started requiring an SS number for every dependent listed for 1040 tax purposes.

A lot of families got inexplicably smaller, tragic deaths in the family!

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 11:59 AM (yKoRs)

181 You don't need a REAL ID to fly, and it pisses me off that they made everyone think you do.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (DRSnL

You don't - but you be ready to deal with some real crazy bullshit if you don't have it. Not fun.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2025 11:59 AM (BI5O2)

182 My divorced mom had a crush on him ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:54 AM (Wai4g)

Ol Mike 'Touch' Connors or our Mannix?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 12:00 PM (xcxpd)

183 That will be the new excuse too.

Out: I was hacked!
In: That wasn't me sending those creepy messages it was my AI agent

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (RTkRD)

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Imma gonna name my personal AI bot agent Anthony Weiner.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (FSjr0)

184 The streets in and around Salt Lake City all run and intersect like a grid horizontally and vertically with a concomitant address coordinates system.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 11:59 AM (FSjr0)

I bet those vertical streets are a nightmare in the winter.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (BI5O2)

185 We need common sense CDL laws!!

If it saves just one child’s life!

And other assorted truths.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (xvV+O)

186 Yes, and apparently the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name, it hasn’t been a positive development overall for him.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (yKoRs)

187 Ol Mike 'Touch' Connors or our Mannix?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 19, 2025 12:00 PM (xcxpd)

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lol, I think our Mannix is young enough to be her great-grandson!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (FSjr0)

188 There was a reality show on TV about independent haulers who would bid on jobs on some internet site. Actually pretty interesting. I guess there are a lot of people who need a one time move of an item.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:02 PM (KDPiq)

189 >> You don't need a REAL ID to fly, and it pisses me off that they made everyone think you do.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2025 11:58 AM (DRSnL

You don't - but you be ready to deal with some real crazy bullshit if you don't have it. Not fun.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2025 11:59 AM (BI5O2)
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The really sad part? If you're flying your likely to deal with some really crazy bullshit anyway. On the plane. With the other passengers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 12:02 PM (NwnyJ)

190 osted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (yKoRs)

Im sure it's very difficult for him I think Jasmine Crockett deserves to be raked over the coals for this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2025 12:03 PM (8Xy/A)

191 I thought it was universally accepted that Epstein did NOT kill himself.

Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)

192 The really sad part? If you're flying your likely to deal with some really crazy bullshit anyway. On the plane. With the other passengers.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2025 12:02 PM (NwnyJ)
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My flights to and from DFW were totally uneventful. Thank goodness.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (xDEVV)

193 Well, we are a smart military blog so zombie tank.

https://is.gd/lFMafh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (L/fGl)

194 Yes, and apparently the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name, it hasn’t been a positive development overall for him.
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He's probably received too many requests for advice from creepy old men on how to hit on younger Chinese government agents.

Posted by: Crusader at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (TN0g+)

195 Yes, and apparently the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name, it hasn’t been a positive development overall for him.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (yKoRs)

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He could always change his surname to Dahmer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (FSjr0)

196 You don't - but you be ready to deal with some real crazy bullshit if you don't have it. Not fun.
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That only applies to Chumps i.e. American Citizens.

Illegal aliens (were?) without ID are allowed to fly using their arrest warrants or final deportation orders. Really. I’m not making this up. Recall the leftists were flying them all over the country sprinkling them by the thousands here and there, whereever they thought would be appropriate

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (yKoRs)

197 195 Yes, and apparently the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name, it hasn’t been a positive development overall for him.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM (yKoRs)

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He could always change his surname to Dahmer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (FSjr0)

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"Hello, my name is Adolf Dahmer Starkweather."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

198 There was a radio host or something like that who commuted by airline from Dallas to Chicago 5days a week.

My worst nightmare.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (KDPiq)

199 There was a radio host or something like that who commuted by airline from Dallas to Chicago 5days a week.

My worst nightmare.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (KDPiq)

Tom Joyner aka 'The Fly Jock.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

200 My flights to and from DFW were totally uneventful. Thank goodness.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (xDEVV)

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Both directions we sat next to some very interesting people.

And virtually everybody I met in the airports were involved in the oil industry ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:06 PM (FSjr0)

201 I remember when Anna Nicole's lawyer was named Howard Stern.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:06 PM (KDPiq)

202 the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name

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It's Epsteen!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 19, 2025 12:07 PM (L/fGl)

203 Thats the other thing, service roads. You don't see those out here. We got 13 colony syndrome. A bunch of boats came ashore a few hundred years ago and just carved a road and built shit with no thought.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2025 11:49 AM

I see you've been to Boston.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (Q4G+n)

204 Tom Joyner aka 'The Fly Jock.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

Thanks . I was concerned I might have just dreamt that.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (KDPiq)

205 Taconic parkway up by the Hudson can be a bit white knuckle sometimes.

I-78 traffic on a four lane divided back road.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (JwNbV)

206 195 Yes, and apparently the “other” Jeff Epstein is not particularly happy to share the same name, it hasn’t been a positive development overall for him.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:01 PM

He could have changed his name to Harvey Weinstein

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (IifOV)

207 "Hello, my name is Adolf Dahmer Starkweather."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

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* snort *

Not a name you hear much anymore.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (FSjr0)

208 Thanks . I was concerned I might have just dreamt that.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (KDPiq)

I called in and won $104 from him once when he was with K104 in DFW.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

209 Please excuse Jeffrey from jail today. He's not feeling well.

Posted by: Epstein's mother at November 19, 2025 12:09 PM (YbBUz)

210 207 "Hello, my name is Adolf Dahmer Starkweather."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

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* snort *

Not a name you hear much anymore.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (FSjr0)

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Good guy.

Loves dogs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

211
Good guy.

Loves dogs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 19, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

"INFIDEL!!!!!"

- - - - Mohamhead derk Mohamhead

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

212 Taconic parkway up by the Hudson can be a bit white knuckle sometimes.

I-78 traffic on a four lane divided back road.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2025 12:08 PM (JwNbV)

See my #167

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:10 PM (KDPiq)

213 I understand that it’s pretty easy to legally change one’s name legally. Probably a huge PITA re credit cards, SS, etc., though.

Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2025 12:11 PM (77rzZ)

214 We're all 29 here - remember paper licenses? No photo, just info.

Posted by: InZona at November 19, 2025 12:11 PM (qz1Fg)

215 My flights to and from DFW were totally uneventful. Thank goodness.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 19, 2025 12:04 PM (xDEVV)

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Also flew Southwest into Dallas Love.

I think it took us nearly an hour to get out of the city and onto a freeway owing to construction and traffic.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 19, 2025 12:12 PM (xLtGB)

216 Im sure it's very difficult for him I think Jasmine Crockett deserves to be raked over the coals for this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I understand they do that sort of thing in Haiti.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 19, 2025 12:12 PM (L/fGl)

217 I think I got my first license when photos were being phased in.

Posted by: InZona at November 19, 2025 12:12 PM (qz1Fg)

218 It looks like I picked the wrong day to miss the art thread.

In other news, it was four years ago today that Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 19, 2025 12:12 PM (ScUYC)

219 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2025 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

220 I think I got my first license when photos were being phased in.
Posted by: InZona at November 19, 2025 12:12 PM (qz1Fg)

They had a sculptor incise my likeness into a clay tablet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2025 12:13 PM (npFr7)

221 I made some goog money making fake IDs in High School. Our DL in Louisiana (Could get when 15 years old) had the same font as the phone book.

You could easily lift a number with scotch tape and put it over the birth date number on the DL.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 19, 2025 12:14 PM (KDPiq)

222 The Man just installed a few red light, government indoctrination center and license tag reader cameras in a small town just across the line of demarcation from me.

You should see the howls from all the old farts who voted in their town council which approved the cameras as their wrinkled old asses are all getting tickets in the mail. The traffic ticket court on the interboobs is hilarious with old farts screaming about their "constitutional" rights.

Posted by: Dumb Voters Reap What They SOw at November 19, 2025 12:16 PM (xGmas)

223 My Dad was in line at the Navy recruiters on Dec. 8, 1941. Everything was fine until they said, "Take off your glasses and read the chart."
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Security at Wendover, Utah in 1944 discovered about a dozen machinists in the Army, working on top secret stuff, who were fugitives from the law, prison escapees, one guy was a murderer.

Apparently they thought the best place to hide at the time was the military. They didn’t ask too many questions.

The G2 guy informed Tibbetts. He ended up calling them in his office, said keep your mouth shut, after showing them their file. They about shit. Where did they get this?? We’ll let it slide he says …. It you keep your mouth shut and do good work.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 19, 2025 12:18 PM (yKoRs)

224 An Uzbek citizen had to use a valid biometric passport for foreign travel to depart Uzbekistan since the days of O&Joe but then it began introducing digital ID cards.

23 September 2020, 'The process of introducing digital ID cards instead of 2011 biometric passports will begin starting 2021'

In part, "Until the end of 2020, you can apply for an ID card, take the e-queue and make an online payment.
The card will be issued within a working day from the date of submission of documents, and for the elderly in need of care and persons with disabilities – within 15 days with a visit to their place of residence without additional payment for the service provided.

Valid biometric passports and the Regulation on the passport system in Uzbekistan remain in force until December 31, 2030, that is, from January 1, 2031, the biometric passport of 2011 is considered invalid."
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Don't know when he first appeared in the US but the Biden administration had tourist, business and SO MANY other Visas out hither and yon.

There's likely no way to ever know what was issued legally, or obtained illegally, and when.

PS - As a 'mature' woman, gave up trying for a real ID in PA, my birth state.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at November 19, 2025 12:20 PM (NFX2v)

225 Stated purpose of gubermint actions is Never the real purpose.

Real ID = tightening the chains around citizens. Never anything else. As we see.

Posted by: Beverly at November 19, 2025 12:46 PM (Epeb0)

226 My retirees ID card (retired military, so a federal ID) wasn’t good enough for the TSA clowns at DFW. But now that I am retired from the military I do not fly much now. Having free TSA Pre was nice…

Yeah, late to the party, but screw it. Remember this: flying out of SAT in the morning? GET THERE EARLY. TSA Pre will not help you in Military City USA, for most of the people flying out in the morning are military and have TSA Pre.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 19, 2025 01:30 PM (6KcYW)

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