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Just-Completed Chinese Bridge Collapses, Tom Friedman Hardest Hit
Plus: The Tenth Annivesary of the Savage Bataclan Attack in Paris

I always hate linking stuff that shows China in a good light in the Cafe. If there's a Chinese foot-bridge connecting two mountains, I'll link it, but say something like "I don't like linking China, but they do some impressive civil engineering." Partly to justify linking anything that might seem pro-China, and partly because I'm wistful about the days of great American civil engineering.

The last time I said that, a few commenters said: No they don't. Alluding to the tendency for these impressive structures to sometimes collapse even more impressively.

(I did also allude to that when I linked a glass alpine roller coaster going down a mountain's side, saying that China's lack of concern for human life allows them to build some fun-but-lethal amusement rides.)

Anyway, my mistake on ever saying China did some impressive civil engineering.


A bridge has collapsed after just one month of being open to the public.

A massive bridge at a hydropower station in southwest China collapsed Tuesday, sending concrete and steel plunging into a river just months after it opened, according to Chinese state media.

Reuters reported that an official from Barkam County confirmed the collapse to the Chinese state-run Global Times, saying no casualties had been reported.

Sure. Sure. Sure sure sure.

Suuuuuuuure.

Sure sure sure sure sure sure sure.

S U R E

There are no casualties. However, dozens of engineers, minor officials. and witnesses have been Reported Missing.

No but seriously, the bridge began collapsing over a period of hours, so they did have time to divert traffic.

Though they don't say they "stopped" traffic, only that they imposed "temporary traffic controls."


The report added that cracks were detected a day earlier on the bridge's road surface and slope, prompting authorities to impose temporary traffic controls.

Footage of the collapse, shared widely on Chinese social media, showed the Hongqi Bridge in Sichuan Province buckling before falling into the river below, kicking up a massive cloud of dust.

...

Local transportation and public security bureaus said the right-bank slope of the bridge showed signs of deformation Monday afternoon, just hours before the collapse.

Authorities quickly shut down the structure to all traffic and issued a public notice warning of potential safety risks.

Fox says "Reuters contributed to this report." I think I see Reuters' influence in vouching for the speedy, decisive action by the wonderful Red China government.


...

According to Times Now, the Hongqi Bridge was located in Sichuan Province's mountainous Maerkang area and completed earlier this year as part of the G317 national highway--an important route connecting central China to Tibet.

I think Tibet would disagree about the importance of being connected to Red China.

The 758-meter-long, cantilevered two-lane beam bridge stood roughly 625 meters above the gorge floor, with piers reaching up to 172 meters in height. It was built by the state-backed Sichuan Road & Bridge Group as part of efforts to expand access to the Tibetan Plateau.

Unrelated: Today is the ten year anniversary of the savage Islamic State terrorist attack at the Bataclan theater in Paris, as the band Eagles of Death Metal (a Josh Homme side-project) were playing. They barricaded the theater and then murdered with both guns and knives 132 people trapped inside.

I believe the cops didn't go in for hours because they believed, wrongly, this was a typical hostage situation where the best outcome would be had by negotiation. But no, ISIS used their time inside the theater to cut people's guts out with knives.

France observed the anniversary today.


10 years after Bataclan massacre, Paris is still scarred by Islamic State attacks

PARIS (AP) -- Sophie Dias fought tears outside the Stade de France on Thursday as she described her "void that never closes" since her father became the first person killed in France's deadliest peacetime attack -- a night of terrorism a decade ago that still scars Paris and shapes the country.

The coordinated assaults on Nov. 13, 2015 turned the French capital into a theater of blood and calamity: gunfire on café terraces, explosions at a stadium, a massacre at the Bataclan concert hall. Many in France and abroad have described the attacks as the country's 9/11.

The attacks killed 132 people, including two survivors who later died by suicide, and hundreds more were wounded. The night hardened France's security reflexes while deepening a sense of solidarity that has endured a decade later -- with many families now measuring time as "before" and "after."

Dias' father, Manuel, died when the first bomber detonated outside the Stade de France. Speaking at the stadium gate where he was killed, she said the absence he left "weighs every morning and every evening, for 10 years."

"We are told to turn the page," she said. "But the absence is immense, the shock is intact and the incomprehension remains. I'd like to know why, I'd like to understand. I'd like these attacks to stop."

Gavin McInnes
@Gavin_McInnes

Ten years ago today, jihadists murdered 130 Parisians in a savage and animalistic attempt to provoke a Holy War.

They started by literally eviscerating the hipsters who adore them.

I don't know about that...

By "QOTSA" he means Queens of the Stone Age ("No One Knows" is their best-known, and I think best, song). Josh Homme fronts that band, and he particpated in Eagles of Death Metal, but I think mostly just on the album. He doesn't often tour with them live and he wasn't with them that night at the Bataclan.

I remember that night. I began seeing reports of the massacre in the back of an Uber as I returned home. My companions and I spoke quietly as we pointed out the tweets about the slaughter -- we didn't want to offend the driver who was, well, someone who might have a different view on ISIS.

But he had no qualms about sharing his thoughts with us. He picked up that we worked in politics and the media and had an idea of how we should frame our stories.


The Reaping Phase
@AceofSpadesHQ


En route home in an Uber driven by a cultural enricher ten years ago, I was told that the question I should be asking about the slaughter in the Bataclan theater is *why* they did it, that is, I should be writing about their grievances and their justification for mass slaughter.

this is while the bodies were still being counted.

there is no slaughter by Islamists that is not grist for immediate pro-Islamist propaganda.

I would describe this guy's comportment, as radio reports about the mass slaughter were coming over the radio, as excited like a kid on Christmas morning

he was beaming and vibrating.

and let me emphazise I, and my two companions, were absolute strangers to him.

He felt perfectly comfortable and indeed proud to say that the real story of the mass slaughter was the Muslim grievances which justified it.

Lord knows what he says in private.


Posted by: Ace at 05:12 PM




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1 Just read that Fetterman had a fall.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:13 PM (YwEeS)

2
Hello

Posted by: fourseasons at November 13, 2025 05:13 PM (3ek7K)

3 Boned!

Posted by: Max Bone at November 13, 2025 05:13 PM (jc0TO)

4 Engineering is one area where you cannot cut corners. Physics is a harsh mistress.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM (xcxpd)

5 Islam is incompatible with Western societies.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM (YwEeS)

6 It's not the slaughter, it's the friends you make along the way.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM (gDhA9)

7 What's a chinese cheaply built bridge collapse or two, it's not like they don't have 100,000 of them in the country to take up the slack.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM (0N4FZ)

8 >>1 Just read that Fetterman had a fall.

yes, I meant to post a post where I updated on that, but accidentally posted this one, so the next one will contain the fetterman update.

Posted by: ace at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM (1wjle)

9 Islam is incompatible with Western societies.
Posted by: steevy


FIFY.

Posted by: mikeski at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (nhCoE)

10 Funny how Muslims seem to have no end of grievances that justify killing innocents.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (gDhA9)

11 There was a wet market 100 yards away. This bridge was another victim of pangolin soup.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (ExV1e)

12 It's not the slaughter, it's the friends you make along the way.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:16 PM



A stranger's just a friend you haven't killed

Streetcar!

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (jc0TO)

13 The casualties in China happened after the found the engineers who built the bridge.

Posted by: Durka Durka at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (MZ+PY)

14 There’s a slope on the bridge.

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at November 13, 2025 05:18 PM (NW+2e)

15 Wasn't trying to stomp on you ace, I actually thought I was posting on the last thread. Didn't notice it was a new one.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:18 PM (YwEeS)

16 1 Just read that Fetterman had a fall.
Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:13 PM (YwEeS)

Did his wife help?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 13, 2025 05:18 PM (xcxpd)

17 China - fast and cheap.

Quality, not so much.

One good earthquake and half the stuff they built is failing.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:18 PM (gDhA9)

18 Funny how Muslims seem to have no end of grievances that justify killing innocents.
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If only we'd import more of them they'd settle down and take up baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:19 PM (TN0g+)

19 The Charlie Hebdo massacre ended any comedic or critical treatment of Islam. They have the ultimate hecklers veto , they will literally kill you.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:19 PM (YwEeS)

20 There are no casualties. However, dozens of engineers, minor officials. and witnesses have been Reported Missing.
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They were disappeared!

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at November 13, 2025 05:19 PM (xverI)

21 Interesting fact: the bridge that was originally in that spot was constructed with large timber bamboo, known as Tonkin cane. It was called the Hongqi Tonkin Bridge.

Posted by: Average Guy at November 13, 2025 05:19 PM (yDU6M)

22 The bridge was Mostly Structurally Sound.

Posted by: CNN at November 13, 2025 05:20 PM (PiwSw)

23 They tell us that we have nothing to teach them and they have nothing to learn from us. "More Charddonnay" is a little awkward after that.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 13, 2025 05:20 PM (YlWIZ)

24 16 I was going to add a joke about his fellow Democrats being around when it happened but apparently it was on an early morning walk near his home.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:20 PM (YwEeS)

25 Hey, are those chinese astronauts still stranded in space ? "A Chinese space crew is stranded at the country’s Tiangong space station after tiny pieces of space debris were believed to have struck their return capsule". Sit tight, they'll get you #soon !

Posted by: runner at November 13, 2025 05:20 PM (g47mK)

26 Granted - the cab driver is still riving that cab- as will his children, and children's children.

When you have grievance and hate in your heart, you'll never get out of the rut you are in.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (gDhA9)

27 China’s Hongqi bridge
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We have a Honkey Bridge here too. It's called the Brooklyn Bridge

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (IifOV)

28 Some have pointed out that it was really a failure of the mountainside that collapsed the bridge; but determining the strength of the anchor points of your engineering is one of the most important parts of designing a structure like that.
A notable example was the St. Francis Dam failure in Southern California, which collapsed for a similar reason and killed 431 people. One of the worst engineering disasters in American history, but at least we learned our lesson from it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (uWKK8)

29 Just like that guy said ho hum cho dillo cho dillo.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (qI77G)

30 Was this in NYC, ace?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (zZu0s)

31
The Bridge to Nowhere? I can see it from my house.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (IifOV)

32 EODM is a great band by the way. Only slightly off topic. Good driving music.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (NW+2e)

33 So the Bataclan massacre was just the Nova Music Festival massacre, only 10 years prior. I'm sensing a pattern here...

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (MZ+PY)

34 I hope the biologically female honeypots hold up better under intense pressure.

Three Gorges Damn is still standing.....so far.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (Sco7b)

35 Not since a submarine using a video game controller.

Posted by: Cray Cray at November 13, 2025 05:21 PM (Zfkaw)

36 Eagles of Death Metal are one of the all-time greatest bands.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:22 PM (gDhA9)

37 The bridge in China was dedicated to President Barry Obama as a reflection of his great achievements...

Posted by: Jackson at November 13, 2025 05:22 PM (J9q9v)

38 >>Victims were literally gutted, pregnant women opened up, genitals cut off and stuffed in mouths etc. Real horror movie shit.


Religion of Peace, yo.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2025 05:22 PM (rO4EG)

39 Hoo really need rebar! Amiright?

Posted by: The People's Engineer at November 13, 2025 05:22 PM (krQz2)

40 Some have pointed out that it was really a failure of the mountainside that collapsed the bridge; but determining the strength of the anchor points of your engineering is one of the most important parts of designing a structure like that.
A notable example was the St. Francis Dam failure in Southern California, which collapsed for a similar reason and killed 431 people. One of the worst engineering disasters in American history, but at least we learned our lesson from it.
Posted by: Tom Servo


So if they just keep building bridges there, eventually one of them won't tip over, catch fire, and/or sink into the swamp?

Posted by: mikeski at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (nhCoE)

41 25 Ironically it was most likely Chinese space junk that got them since they are the worst litterers in space...

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (YwEeS)

42 You know the Pons Fabricius in Rome was built in 62 BC (thats before Christ.) It is still in use today.

All cultures are equal though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (zZu0s)

43 Perhaps the Chinese should have had muslims do the construction.

Because if you want quality engineering.....

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (Sco7b)

44 There's video of Fetterman's fall

before he goes down, he stumbles
Back, and to the left

Posted by: Don Black at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (AOsQT)

45
The all-chickie engineering firm that built the pancaked pedestrian

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (xG4kz)

46 A bridge has collapsed after just one month of being open to the public.

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BREAKING: Califzuela Governor Gruesome Newscum Hires The Chinese Communist Party to Replace All Bridges Statewide -- With Only a 20% Kickback to His Presidential Campaign).

* cue The Talking Heads "We're On The Bridge To Nowhere ..." *

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (XrkE7)

47 "Falling but mostly stable bridge"

Posted by: CNN at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (Zfkaw)

48 "The Grand Tour" did a segment in China, I think it was. One portion of the China tour was filmed during a rain storm on a highway and one of the presenters, Clarkson I think it was, casually mentioned the builders had neglected to install drainage for the highway.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (UJMvS)

49 There’s a slope on the bridge.
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson"

What a honky...

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (9idMp)

50 19 The Charlie Hebdo massacre ended any comedic or critical treatment of Islam. They have the ultimate hecklers veto , they will literally kill you.
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There is very little difference between Islam and Leftism. The ultimate goal is absolute power and subjugation of "infidels".

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (xverI)

51 Just read that Fetterman had a fall.
Posted by: steevy

Right season for it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (L/fGl)

52
bridge in Florida are agog. "How did they get it to stay up for so long?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (xG4kz)

53 Before I retired, I had the misfortune to have spent time with US merchant ships doing repair periods in several Chinese shipyards. Everthing about Chinese heavy industry sucks. The steel is sub standard, their welders can't weld to ABS standards, their planning is horrible. The bridge collapse was inevitable. I can't wait to see what happens to their new aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Cosda at November 13, 2025 05:25 PM (1kYzx)

54 Victims were literally gutted, pregnant women opened up, genitals cut off and stuffed in mouths etc. Real horror movie shit.
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Somebody was taking notes from Willie Horton.
(The guy for whom it was "racist" to bring up that Do-kaka let him out on "work release".)

Posted by: The People's Engineer at November 13, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

55 You go now! Bridge been here four hour!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 13, 2025 05:25 PM (2UnvF)

56 Just read that Fetterman had a fall.
Posted by: steevy
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I wish him a pleasant winter as well.

Posted by: The People's Engineer at November 13, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

57 I think the concept of bribery and corner-cutting for fun and profit is part of the Chinese psyche

fuck 'em

Posted by: Don Black at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (AOsQT)

58 I wonder what happened to that Chinese looking Obama statue?

That was funny.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (Sco7b)

59 . I can't wait to see what happens to their new aircraft carrier.
Posted by: Cosda at November 13, 2025 05:25 PM (1kYzx)
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Three Gorges Dam.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (UJMvS)

60 I am one of those commenters who told you not to be too impressed by Chinese engineering. Some stuff looks impressive from a distance, up close not so much.

Which says a lot about communism. You can visit the Summer Palace or even better the Forbidden City and see architecture that has stood for centuries. Under communism you get brand new bridges that collapse

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (viF8m)

61 Funny spelling doesn't help much among the crackers, "Honky" Bridge. She Jingping, so what?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (YlWIZ)

62 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)

63 "Falling but mostly stable bridge"
Posted by: CNN at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (Zfkaw)
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I normally don't announce "Thread winner", but...

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (krQz2)

64 What are those videos on youtube showing shoddy Chinese construction? Tofu Dreg?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (UJMvS)

65 China's crowning achievement as far as bridges go is the Huajiang Grand Canyon Bridge. It is approximately 2,050 feet above the Beipan River in Guizhou province.

The Guizhou Province of China has a reputation. For what, you ask? Beautiful maidens? Wonderful food? Well, I have no idea. BUT, they do have a reputation for EARTHQUAKES.

I'm willing to bet that right this very minute they have 100's of workers currently going over that bridge with magnifying glasses and sweaty brows.

If you are interested in China's willingness to cut corners and undercut materials on civil engineering projects, just GOOGLE "tofu-dreg projects".

Posted by: Orson at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (dIske)

66 "How did they get it to stay up for so long?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (xG4kz)


Chinese knock-off Viagra!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (n9ltV)

67 "If you believe that, then I have a bridge in China for sale!"

Posted by: Cray Cray at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (Zfkaw)

68 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)
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Why were they ever involved?

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

69
I wonder what happened to that Chinese looking Obama statue?

That was funny.
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1%


Are you certain that you are mot referring to the Martind

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (xG4kz)

70 He felt perfectly comfortable and indeed proud to say that the real story of the mass slaughter was the Muslim grievances which justified it.

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The islamist worships death, and committing murder is no different then changing a tire, or taking out the trash. I doubt it would even raise his heart rate.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (IifOV)

71 I heard that China has a gorgeous dam....

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

72 Hey how about that 3 Gorges dam huh?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (sRL1L)

73
Which says a lot about communism. You can visit the Summer Palace or even better the Forbidden City and see architecture that has stood for centuries. Under communism you get brand new bridges that collapse
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (viF8m)
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Aren't Communist era apartments in the Soviet Union notorious for concrete exteriors crumbling and rebar being exposed to the elements?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:28 PM (UJMvS)

74
Luther King, Jr statue?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (xG4kz)

75 "If you believe that, then I have a bridge in China for sale!"
Posted by: Cray Cray at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (Zfkaw)
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"We checked our stock.... no we don't."

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (krQz2)

76 >>>Victims were literally gutted, pregnant women opened up, genitals cut off and stuffed in mouths etc. Real horror movie shit.


This is war.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (i24o9)

77 Man who builds many collapsing bridges will wake one day to find he has built a dam.

Posted by: Confuscius Says... at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (rO4EG)

78 The Charlie Hebdo massacre ended any comedic or critical treatment of Islam. They have the ultimate hecklers veto , they will literally kill you.
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And yet a dozen or so comedians waltzed off to Qatar to cash big checks to tell jokes to a culture that has no sense of humor. The only laughing their audiences were doing was on the inside at how cheaply the west will sell their souls.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (TN0g+)

79
BREAKING: Califzuela Governor Gruesome Newscum Hires The Chinese Communist Party to Replace All Bridges Statewide -- With Only a 20% Kickback to His Presidential Campaign).

* cue The Talking Heads "We're On The Bridge To Nowhere ..." *
Posted by: ShainS

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You do know that Governor Brown did this very thing for the retrofitting or maintenance or whatever of the Oakland Bay Bridge? Chinese came in over-budget and past-deadline and apparently did such shyte work that some civil engineer at Berkeley says he won't drive on it.

To you attentive morons, sorry for the re-post. There are some stories that just keep bubbling into relevance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (I3KId)

80 You know the Pons Fabricius in Rome was built in 62 BC (thats before Christ.) It is still in use today.
All cultures are equal though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone


You know a bridge is old when it's just called "the bridge we built."

(Not really. It's named for the folks who built it, but their surname means "craftsman.")

Posted by: mikeski at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (nhCoE)

81 I think the concept of bribery and corner-cutting for fun and profit is part of the Chinese psyche"

Heh. It's part of tribalism. China is a whole bunch of ever changing peoples in search of a country..

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (9idMp)

82
Man, I need a nap.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (xG4kz)

83 On Nov 14 France should have sent every Muslim home. Just like should have on 9/12.

They like us did jack shit instead.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (F2Ar1)

84 Regarding the Chinese bridge collapse...

This is one reason I suspect their military isn't exactly the "super dragon" some fear. Like their merch, much of what they build is copied and built on the cheap.

Are their warships, planes and tanks a threat? Yea. But.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (NwnyJ)

85
Victims were literally gutted, pregnant women opened up, genitals cut off and stuffed in mouths etc. Real horror movie shit.


This is war.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

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It certainly should be.

In all seriousness, the French authorities should post the pictures.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (I3KId)

86 Jesus rivals his Sermon on the Mount in Ace's post today....

Posted by: Cryptic Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (krQz2)

87
China technology incredible! US backward and awful.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (tgvbd)

88 >>If you are interested in China's willingness to cut corners and undercut materials on civil engineering projects, just GOOGLE "tofu-dreg projects".


Building Bridges out of Tofu sounds like a risky proposition, at best.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (rO4EG)

89 The bridge is largely intact.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (jc0TO)

90 remember the terrorists let the brown people in the audience go in racial solidarity, but massacred all whites

religion of peace etc etc

Posted by: brak at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (jGJov)

91 Aakash Gupta here says the problem wasn't the engineering. The engineering was fine, on the assumption that sedimentary-rock mountains in an intermittently-damp region don't ever change.
x.com/aakashg0/status/1988508234261614750#
The problem is that they didn't built this bridge in, like, the Rocky Mountain Range of central Colorado where the mountains are Precambrian gneiss and granite. They built the bridge in western China.
The engineers did their job, which was a stupid job, ordered by stupid people. What are you going to do against a Communist government? Tell the truth?

Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (gKWVE)

92 Didn't everyone have Fabricius tools from Sears?

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (9idMp)

93 I remember thinking at the time of that massacre, if this doesn't wake the French up, nothing will. The French were upset for a few days and then hit the snooze button.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (2UnvF)

94 Chinese Belt and Road crap is built badly all over the world. The recent Zambia mine tailings mess, the dam in Ecuador that was so badly machined that it's never gotten better over 33% of what it was supposed to produce and a lot of other crappy construction. There were anti Chinese riots in Angola recently. Eff the Chicoms in particular

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (bfwj/)

95 For some reason I thought the bridge was first damaged by a landslide.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (unUNN)

96 Live at Budokan >> Dead at Bataclan.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

97
Looks like a good bridge to me. But did it have Transgender bike lanes?

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (IifOV)

98 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.
Posted by: Crusader


They had to wait until the Marxist pope was gone. They managed to sneak it past the new mostly-Marxist pope.

Posted by: mikeski at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (nhCoE)

99 One of my Chinese patients just yesterday was bragging about how clean and safe and modern China is. How the highways and bridges are engineering marvels.

She wasn’t wrong.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (Ak2xC)

100 once again Tom Servo proves he's smarter than me

Posted by: or at least is better at posting at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (gKWVE)

101 >Chinese knock-off Viagra!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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there's a 'fowah owah!' joke to be made here, but I'm not sure how to word it

Posted by: Don Black at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (AOsQT)

102 59 It was the Seven Gorges Dam, but four collapsed.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (wBaIH)

103
It was born a bridge, but it soon realized that it identified more with being a pile of construction rubble.

Gaza is interested in purchasing its naming rights.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (xG4kz)

104 Its just a flesh wound.

Posted by: Chinese bridge at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Zfkaw)

105 (Not really. It's named for the folks who built it, but their surname means "craftsman.")
Posted by: mikeski at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (nhCoE)

Lucius Fabricius, iirc.

There was a legend i heard that he was offered a bonus when the bridge contract was handed out that if the bridge lasted for X number of years (20, I think?) He would earn a bonus.

Well. I wonder if it actually got paid out as it would have been hitting 20 years about the time of Civil Wars...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (zZu0s)

106 10 years after Bataclan massacre, Paris is still scarred by Islamic State attacks

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The real story is: "Did the French government make sure there was no Anti-Islamist Backlash?"

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Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (XrkE7)

107 China! What a great place! Their economy needs a bit of a boost and now look! A new bridge is needed, with attendant concrete, steel, engineering, labor and all the spin-off businesses, like lunch trucks. I predict a boom in Chinese lunch trucks.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (jfk6p)

108 >>Aren't Communist era apartments in the Soviet Union notorious for concrete exteriors crumbling and rebar being exposed to the elements?

I saw those conditions in Soviet era Romanian buildings.

Kind of hard to think of anything communists produce that I would consider quality. Kind of the nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (viF8m)

109 Funny how Muslims seem to have no end of grievances that justify killing innocents.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at November 13, 2025 05:17 PM (gDhA9)

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If West is to survive it will have to apply the Ferdinand and Isabella solution to the Muslim populations - mass expulsions.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (unUNN)

110 If you are interested in China's willingness to cut corners and undercut materials on civil engineering projects, just GOOGLE "tofu-dreg projects".
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You mean like "reinforcing" the concrete with landfill?

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

111 81 I think the concept of bribery and corner-cutting for fun and profit is part of the Chinese psyche"

Heh. It's part of tribalism. China is a whole bunch of ever changing peoples in search of a country..
Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:30 PM (9idMp)
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There is a great video on YouTube of a Billionaire investor (I think from the US) who went to China to finalize a project and no one tried to bribe him or do last minute changes to the contract, or even extortion. He said that right away he became wary. He couldn't figure out what they were up to. So, he held off on signing the contract. Days later, after reviewing the contract, he found subtle changes they had made without authorization.

He, also, talked about the Vaults. China will take foreigners down into the Vaults and show them a safety deposit box with a gold plaque engraved with their name, and inside are various "treasures" that you get if you comply with their requests. I often wondered how many US congressmen have such boxes.

Posted by: Orson at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (dIske)

112 For some reason I thought the bridge was first damaged by a landslide.
Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:32 PM (unUNN)

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From what I gather, the anchor points for the bridge shifted, causing the bridge to start tearing itself apart. The mountain collapsing finished the job.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (UJMvS)

113 the Chinese even have a word for it:

"Tofu-dreg project" (Chinese: 豆腐渣工程 is a phrase used in the Chinese-speaking world to describe a very poorly constructed building, sometimes called just "Tofu buildings".


you can find pictures online of Chinese concrete crumbling and cardboard boxes and newspaper clearly mixed in before it set --- cardboard rebar

Posted by: brak at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (jGJov)

114 I feel happy! I feel happy!!

Posted by: Chinese bridge at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (PiwSw)

115
there's a 'fowah owah!' joke to be made here, but I'm not sure how to word it
Posted by: Don Black


"Election ovuh!"
"You go soft now!"
"You been horny fowah owah!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (xG4kz)

116 72 Hey how about that 3 Gorges dam huh?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats


Nasser's Dam in Aswan is probably going to last for centuries, because the Nile is just that boring.
More worrying are some of the dams Saddam tossed up around Kurdestan. I don't think they are supported by much. And those hills get a rainy season.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (gKWVE)

117 Kind of hard to think of anything communists produce that I would consider quality. Kind of the nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (viF8m)


Gymnasts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (n9ltV)

118 China technology incredible! US backward and awful"

Yeah. About that - still see the occasional bleat about "how good" Chinese EVs are, and how US engineers are amazed...
The only amazing thing is that these things are allowed on the road...

(And yeah, I know several folks in the auto engineering analysis field. So there. )

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (9idMp)

119 Search YT for China tofu dreg
The number of videos will last you for hours. It isn't just bridges or roads, it's all their construction.

Posted by: Lirio100 at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (ky7/T)

120
One of our even-handed morons pointed out that round-eyes build bridges that collapse, too, and you could google up quite a few. I was feeling even-handed about this until I saw: Bridge finished last month.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (I3KId)

121 For some reason I thought the bridge was first damaged by a landslide.

The Chinese social media propaganda agents work fast. I saw the top 20 comments on every x post of the footage preface with “a landslide caused it!!”

Posted by: weew at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (S4IL1)

122 Ten years ago, on November 13, 2015, Paris was hit by a cowardly terrorist attack claimed by ISIS, which shocked the entire world. A ferocity that has left an indelible mark on everyone's memories and consciences. ...the Bataclan and the other places in the French capital hit, the streets, the sirens.

The bombers took the lives of 130 innocent people, … Ten years after that massacre, we cling to ... those of all the victims, with the same emotion as then. No terrorism or fundamentalism will ever be able to extinguish the light of freedom that unites our peoples and animates our civilization.
_Giorgia Meloni

https://tinyurl.com/yp8msfeb

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (VX4XC)

123 A bridge has collapsed after just one month of being open to the public.
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Not surprised in the least...
Bad design
Flawed construction
Corrupt management
Substandard materials
No quality assurance in low-trust societies

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (A0sqA)

124 >>Gymnasts.

I'll give you that one. They are bendy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)

125 Kind of hard to think of anything communists produce that I would consider quality. Kind of the nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (viF8m)

Gymnasts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (n9ltV)

And weightlifters.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (MGB5H)

126 I feel happy! I feel happy!!
Posted by: Chinese bridge at November 13, 2025 05:35 PM (PiwSw)
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You're not fooling anyone, you know.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (krQz2)

127 Communist countries are massively corrupt. Building materials disappear or are substandard as someone skims for themselves etc etc.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (YwEeS)

128 ‘Lord knows what he says in private.’

No. Lord knows what he does in private.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (/4Vgn)

129
Bridge not fail if builders used China's Miracle Chemical (TM), Melamine!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (xG4kz)

130 So again, it makes sense that The Handmaid's Tale was really about how badly Muslims treat their women.

But telling that story would get the author killed toot sweet, so better to make it about Christian men that are kind and gentle ... and won't murder an author for making good men out to be horrible. And the left hates Christian men ... so all the better for book sales.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (vbXSk)

131 Were the bridge engineers graduates of Florida International University?
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From the googs:
"Florida International University (FIU) had a significant number of Chinese students, but the population has been declining since 2014"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (XeU6L)

132 Nasser's Dam in Aswan is probably going to last for centuries, because the Nile is just that boring.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (gKWVE)


I know the Soviets built it (mostly), but I think the Germans designed it, so...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (n9ltV)

133 117 Kind of hard to think of anything communists produce that I would consider quality. Kind of the nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (viF8m)


Red-hot lovers who appreciate an American Man's Man.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (PiwSw)

134 >>>One of our even-handed morons pointed out that round-eyes build bridges that collapse, too, and you could google up quite a few.


Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse -- it may have collapsed and killed people, but they hit all the diversity and DEI targets during construction

Posted by: brak at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (jGJov)

135 I never have time to read the hq real time these days. So I have to give my end of the day review: still very girthy throughout, but fortified with extra cruelty today, a great mouth-feel , full body richness, sublime complexity, strong finish

Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (NW+2e)

136 It still identifies as a bridge, so the progressives have that.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

137
Say, are those three Chinese astronauts still Space Toast?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (xG4kz)

138 In all seriousness, the French authorities should post the pictures.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (I3KId)

Won't anyone think of the backlash?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (i24o9)

139 Kind of hard to think of anything communists produce that I would consider quality. Kind of the nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:34 PM (viF8m)

Gymnasts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2025 05:36 PM (n9ltV)

And weightlifters.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 13, 2025 05:37 PM (MGB5H)

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Misery

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (/4Vgn)

140

Where's that confounded bridge?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (pkeXY)

141 My thoughts on the bridge.

1. China is building a lot of bridges. They are also cutting a lot of corners. They might even expect some of them to fail. Their goal is to build quick and cheap.

2. Think of it like our own transcontinental rail project.

3. The real fiasco is that they are building this route in order to digest and destroy Tibet. They want transportation to inundate it with Han.

4. All that said, It looks like it failed because of incompetence and bad engineering.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 13, 2025 05:40 PM (2P76b)

142 138 In all seriousness, the French authorities should post the pictures.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2025 05:31 PM (I3KId)

Won't anyone think of the backlash?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (i24o9)

I do. I pray for it.
But we can't have nice things.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 13, 2025 05:40 PM (xcxpd)

143 Kiewit corp, out of Nebraska, rebuilt the Oroville Dam, California spillway after its catastrophic failure.
There was an enormous amount of attention to detail even using dental picks to give the spillway purchase to competent 'bedrock'. I note that it appears there still is some migration of water from the lake to the seams of the spillway track. Kiewit is still there with some trailers equipment 24/7. It's an impressive structure and certainly much improved over the original that lasted 50 years but I betcha they didn't plan on leaks.

Posted by: torabora at November 13, 2025 05:40 PM (KtOUo)

144 Where's that confounded bridge?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2025 05:39 PM (pkeXY)
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Look high and mostly lower.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:40 PM (krQz2)

145 Man, my zipper was down for three hours, but nobody dared tell me

Posted by: Field Marshal XI at November 13, 2025 05:40 PM (wBaIH)

146 Chinese civil engineering is probably crap, but modern USA engineering — with its inevitable DEI, corruption, etc — probably isn’t much better. This is no longer the country that built the Hoover dam.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (/4Vgn)

147 99 One of my Chinese patients just yesterday was bragging about how clean and safe and modern China is. How the highways and bridges are engineering marvels.

She wasn’t wrong.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2025 05:33 PM (Ak2xC)
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Do you know how odd that is? I have relative who grew up in Mainland China, and friends with the same background. Not a single one of them has anything nice to say about China or the current government. In fact, they go out of their way to espouse just the opposite. The only ones who are in this country and vehemently defend China are in this country for nefarious reasons. Or so has been my experience.

Posted by: Orson at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (dIske)

148 Oh no! Chowmadillo!

Posted by: Chinese Bridge Engineer at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (YJgg/)

149 >>The Chinese social media propaganda agents work fast. I saw the top 20 comments on every x post of the footage preface with “a landslide caused it!!”

Yes of course. Don't bother to look at what the bridge is going to be anchored to and see if the ground is stable.

That's crazy talk.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (viF8m)

150 Ironically it was most likely Chinese space junk that got them since they are the worst litterers in space...
Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (YwEeS)

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That is a safe bet.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (unUNN)

151 Islam is incompatible with Western societies.
Posted by: steevy

Islam is incompatible with any society. They are barbarians.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at November 13, 2025 05:41 PM (B60Sg)

152
The bridge up and died.
It up and died.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:42 PM (krQz2)

153 Lord knows what he says in private.
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C'mon. You know.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 13, 2025 05:42 PM (A0sqA)

154 it makes sense that The Handmaid's Tale was really about how badly Muslims treat their women.

Atwood didn't intend it to be a softcore porn book, either. I'd read it in high school, when I was a lot hornier (and is probably why I read it), and nary a fap was to be had.
I blame the TV series.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 05:42 PM (gKWVE)

155 You know the Pons Fabricius in Rome was built in 62 BC (thats before Christ.) It is still in use today.

All cultures are equal though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:23 PM (zZu0s)

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What have the Romans ever done for us?

H/t Monty Python.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:43 PM (unUNN)

156 74
Luther King, Jr statue?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge?h hil at November 13, 2025 05:29 PM (xG4kz)

Thank you!
Sorry.
That's right. I remember now.
It was still funny.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 13, 2025 05:43 PM (Sco7b)

157 My kid studied in China for two years and those two years seemed like 20 years long for stress for me. What a pit.

Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2025 05:44 PM (uQzkA)

158 En route home in an Uber driven by a cultural enricher ten years ago, I was told that the question I should be asking about the slaughter in the Bataclan theater is *why* they did it, that is, I should be writing about their grievances and their justification for mass slaughter.
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Gee, maybe people can ask themselves why Israel was levelling Gaza. I mean what drove them to it?

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:44 PM (krQz2)

159 Earlier on YT I saw the ad for the comedy musical that makes fun of LDS ,Book of Mormon. They know they are safe from Mormon violence( sorry Candace Owens)

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:44 PM (YwEeS)

160 My thoughts on Bataclan.

Grievances? What grievances? I wipe my ass with their grievances.

The only way the West will survive is if we accept and understand that islam is not compatible. They have found a weakness in our system and they are exploiting it. To survive, we must put aside our notions of equality and freedom and thus ban islam, their books, their flags, their buildings, and their people from our land. The entire West.

Then we must push them back and take the Christian resources they have stolen in the M. E. including the oil they are using to get rich and spread their slavery.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (2P76b)

161 What are those videos on youtube showing shoddy Chinese construction? Tofu Dreg?

Yep. They're infamous for cutting corners to save on costs figuring whatever they build will last long enough for the paycheck to come. After they get paid it's not their problem.

Unless it makes the news.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (lUFok)

162 >>> Atwood didn't intend it to be a softcore porn book, either. I'd read it in high school, when I was a lot hornier (and is probably why I read it), and nary a fap was to be had.
I blame the TV series.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 05:42 PM (gKWVE)


Well it’s for women are you a woman? Female erotic stuff seems gross and violent.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (NW+2e)

163 Say, are those three Chinese astronauts still Space Toast?
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I bet Musk will have to save them.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (TN0g+)

164
Those heathen Chinee can't handle complex things like dams.

Posted by: The South Fork Hunting and Fishing Club at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (tgvbd)

165 I bet Musk will have to save them.

I suspect the Chicoms rather let them die than lose face asking for help.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2025 05:46 PM (YwEeS)

166 we didn't want to offend the driver who was, well, someone who might have a different view on ISIS.
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In fairness, shouldn't we hear both sides of ISIS?

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:46 PM (krQz2)

167
Say, are those three Chinese astronauts still Space Toast?

I'd get them but for this damn hurricane.

Posted by: David Janssen in the XRV Lifting Body at November 13, 2025 05:47 PM (tgvbd)

168 still very girthy throughout, but fortified with extra cruelty today, a great mouth-feel , full body richness, sublime complexity, strong finish"

Swalwell, that you?

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:47 PM (9idMp)

169 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)

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Finally something that Jesus would do.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:47 PM (unUNN)

170 Well it’s for women are you a woman? Female erotic stuff seems gross and violent.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (NW+2e)
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I got chafing something awful.

Posted by: A Minotaur at November 13, 2025 05:47 PM (CwwHD)

171 we didn't want to offend the driver who was, well, someone who might have a different view on ISIS.
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In fairness, shouldn't we hear both sides of ISIS?
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"So what is adultery, and how can we get involved?"

Posted by: The Buffalo Bill Show at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (TN0g+)

172
Did the PRC say it was an act of God?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (tgvbd)

173 You never know when it can happen, in Columbus Ohio nazareth restaurant, and deli some guy with a machete and started hacking people, I was next-door at the Tim Hortons, my son who's still potty training said he wanted to go potty since we were really close to that house we left and as we are going down the road there was tons. I mean tons of cop cars behind us.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (FCrpy)

174
Just get some more rubble and make it a causeway rather than a bridge.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (xG4kz)

175 Jesse received so much shit from the scumbag owner of the Bataclan, since Jesse said how the security were 100% in on it. The owner tried to ban him from future memorials because of it.

Jesse had talked about how security asked his girlfriend, Tuesday Cross, if she was Arab, & when she told him she was Mexican they were like "oh never mind" (sidenote look up about the beautiful way Jesse fought for Tuesday after she fell in to a diabetic coma, & doctors wanted to pull the plug on her. He's shown such beautiful love taking care of her and trying to get her to return to normal, although she's now so handicapped)

He pointed out how backstage doors were propped open, which is a huge no-no for sound complaints at this place.

But most importantly he said how security in front of the stage completely disappeared before the attack started.

The owner said he was a racist & conspiracy theorist for this. Until the French enquiry where all the horrible details emerged. And in those details was a picture of the band playing before the attack, no security in front of the stage.

The owner who only hired Moroccan immigrants, smeared him because he knew he was culpable.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8jEeq)

176 The steel in the bridge was Chinesium.

Posted by: no one at November 13, 2025 05:49 PM (W7XSX)

177 Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 13, 2025 05:45 PM (2P76
Cut, jib, newsletter.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:49 PM (Vvh2V)

178 The only way the West will survive is if we accept and understand that islam is not compatible"

All cultures are not equal.

*sets out smelling salts*

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:49 PM (9idMp)

179 ace seems a bit surely today.

Posted by: anachronda at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (sGtp+)

180 Well, the BBC Crapfest gets the parody treatment.

YT AI parody video. LOL

"Fake News BBC" AI parody video

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/2jwckvju

Posted by: mrp at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (rj6Yv)

181 > Say, are those three Chinese astronauts still Space Toast?
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Supposedly, they're bringing them back soon. NOTAM's for the landing area in China went up today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (NwnyJ)

182 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)
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Didn't they also vote to send a nasty letter to the Trump administration condemning the enforcement of immigration laws?

Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (7i0hW)

183 I think the concept of bribery and corner-cutting for fun and profit is part of the Chinese psyche

fuck 'em
Posted by: Don Black at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (AOsQT)

Mix that in with Communism and dictatorships and you get a whole lot of ruin in a country. When I was watching shows about inside China there were a lot of bits about construction jobs crumbling from day 1.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (8avO+)

184 ace seems a bit surely today.
Posted by: anachronda at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (sGtp+)
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Don't call him Surely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (CwwHD)

185 169 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)

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Finally something that Jesus would do.
Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2025 05:47 PM (unUNN)

Hey, it doesn't happen often with these twats. Take what you can get.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (yKmBH)

186 NOTAM's for the landing area in China went up today."

Watch out!

Posted by: man at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (9idMp)

187 They have all the glass walkway trails and rope bridge trails and all sorts of death defying architecture in China they show on tiktok and I just assume it’s all a means to reduce population. Like instead of the big people garbage trucks they had in Soylent Green just have a bunch of extremely janky amusement park rides and let them sort it out.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (NW+2e)

188 U.S. Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to make official a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender patients at Catholic hospitals. The step formalizes a years long process for the U.S. church to address transgender health care.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)
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Didn't they also vote to send a nasty letter to the Trump administration condemning the enforcement of immigration laws?
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Yes I believe they did.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM (TN0g+)

189 Afternoon.

Why...for suck's fake...do news orgs ALWAYS insert text in the MIDDLE OF A FUCKING VIDEO!!!!

Right where the action is.

Stop describing what I can...or would...plainly see is right fucking there.

Cvnts.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at November 13, 2025 05:52 PM (1Yy3c)

190 The way to deal with these musloid terrorists? Ten for one retaliation. Obliterate some muzzie village in Buttfuckistan. If they do it again, up the ante to a hundred to one. Then a thousand to one/ When it reaches a million to one, start lobbing nukes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2025 05:52 PM (npFr7)

191 Didn't they also vote to send a nasty letter to the Trump administration condemning the enforcement of immigration laws?
Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 13, 2025 05:50 PM (7i0hW)

Actually, the did make a statement that border security is a common good.

About time.

Twats.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:52 PM (yKmBH)

192 They have all the glass walkway trails and rope bridge trails and all sorts of death defying architecture in China they show on tiktok and I just assume it’s all a means to reduce population. Like instead of the big people garbage trucks they had in Soylent Green just have a bunch of extremely janky amusement park rides and let them sort it out.
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So what is it you're accusing them of?

Posted by: Ride Operators at The State Fairs in the US at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (TN0g+)

193 no casualties had been reported.



does not mean there were not any

Posted by: n at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (0jyPz)

194 Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8jEeq)

I remember there being talk about security being in on it.

I personally think the fire at Notre Dame was arson. A Muslim crew were working in the area the fire started in.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (Vvh2V)

195 The last Gold Medal gymnast that looked like a normal woman was Ludmilla Tourischeva in 1972. She was like 5'4" and had a normal athletic body. Ever since only pixy freaks of nature. Sad.

Posted by: I Likes Real Women at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (oftw2)

196 In about 20 years France will be cekebrating as an Islamic holy day.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (Vh9CX)

197 A conspiracy case is looking a lot more likely.

>>DOJ brass tied to Jack Smith appeared to nix probe into Clinton campaign funding of Steele dossier

>>Bombshell documents show how Hillary Clinton was once more protected from prosecution while Donald Trump was hit with years of lawfare.

https://tinyurl.com/5n8mktyd

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (viF8m)

198 Hey everybody.

I don't want to be racist against Chinese people. I know that Christianity has been spreading there, against all odds and the efforts of their massive government. That's gotta prove that there are many, many decent people in their nation.

Having said that? It seems their culture fully embraces this ethos of "if you're not cheating, you're not playing to win."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Ixlky)

199 They are building these bridges far away from quality control inspectors. You might say that this one was a Bridge Too Far.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (2UnvF)

200 I don't think the Chinese have killed any of their astronauts yet.

Posted by: pawn at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (sPsWv)

201 And now we have a Jihadist as Mayor of NYC.

We need to treat Muslims exactly the way they treat us. And by that I mean eliminate them.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (1Nv0l)

202 How do you say "Oh, shit!" in Chinese?

Posted by: Gref at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (5rh/l)

203 As for Chinese engineering, they steal what they can from us, and make the rest up. Then the contractors get ahold of the design, cut out about 15% for their own profit, and then people die.

I'm not going to China, not for a visit, not on a dare.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (yKmBH)

204 I think a significant portion of these insane Chinese amusement and thrill park rides are fake or heavily embellished

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (/4Vgn)

205 En route home in an Uber driven by a cultural enricher ten years ago, I was told that the question I should be asking about the slaughter in the Bataclan theater is *why* they did it, that is, I should be writing about their grievances and their justification for mass slaughter.
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Gee, maybe people can ask themselves why Israel was levelling Gaza. I mean what drove them to it?
Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:44 PM (krQz2)

They play those games because it plays to the leftist and liberal brain-of-mush crowd.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

206
The ChiComs are most concerned with "face", not about the lives of anyone who died in this bridge collapse or the astronauts getting back safely.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (tgvbd)

207 202 How do you say "Oh, shit!" in Chinese?
Posted by: Gref at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (5rh/l)

Sum Ting Wong.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (yKmBH)

208 I think the concept of bribery and corner-cutting for fun and profit is part of the Chinese psyche

fuck 'em
Posted by: Don Black at November 13, 2025 05:26 PM (AOsQT)
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No, that's the communism. China used to have an honor-based culture, and Taiwan still does. Pride in craftsmanship, pride in family.

Mao killed all that. Now it's just "get mine, screw you." No Confucian notion of excellence and harmony, just get what you can.

This is why I question China's military capability. Yes, I've got a book that you all should read, but near the end I note that the combination of China's traditional anti-military culture, the Imperial imperative to save face and cover up shortfalls is now combined with communism's amoral pursuit of the Party line and rampant corruption that would make the Mandarins blush.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (ZOv7s)

209
How could China have put on such a beautiful Olympics, yet not be able to build a bridge?

Posted by: NBC Sports at November 13, 2025 05:56 PM (IifOV)

210 Chinese bridge to Tibet crashes. Tibet celebrates.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 05:56 PM (VX4XC)

211 Today is the Feast Day of Mother Cabrini, canonized for her work with immigrants, so we got preached at a little this morning about welcoming the illegal invaders.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 13, 2025 05:57 PM (GPa4z)

212 Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8jEeq)

I remember there being talk about security being in on it.

I personally think the fire at Notre Dame was arson. A Muslim crew were working in the area the fire started in.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (Vvh2V)

I don't recall a cause or perp ever released for it. I was not sure it was Islamic or Antifa-leftist caused, they cover for both.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 05:57 PM (8avO+)

213 LOL, Hongqi means "Red Flag".

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 13, 2025 05:57 PM (kpS4V)

214 tcn, yup.
If in my whole life I never leave the western US, I'm perfectly okay with that.

ONLY possible exceptions are where my family is in Arkansas and Iowa, and exploring cajun/creole cuisine in Louisiana.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (Ixlky)

215 How do you say "Oh, shit!" in Chinese?
Posted by: Gref at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (5rh/l)
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妈的!

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (krQz2)

216 As for Chinese engineering, they steal what they can from us, and make the rest up. Then the contractors get ahold of the design, cut out about 15% for their own profit, and then people die.

I'm not going to China, not for a visit, not on a dare.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (yKmBH)
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Traditional China had serious engineering chops. They invented gunpowder (though didn't know what to do with it) and their cities were amazing. Chinese siege warfare was something else.

But communism took the idea of low bidder to new depths. The Party believes in nothing but itself and the personal enrichment of its members. Even the Soviets could do quality control on T-34s and stuff. I don't think the ChiComs have any notion of what that even in.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (ZOv7s)

217 Having said that? It seems their culture fully embraces this ethos of "if you're not cheating, you're not playing to win."
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Ixlky)

The Chinese do not have any ethical considerations of the value of the individual. Without the Creator God, they are all in it for themselves. Autonomy, certainly, so they can do as they please. It is difficult for us to understand that mindset, because we have the Judeo-Christian framework that values each person as a child of God.

I think that accounts for the misery of life in China from time immemorial.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (yKmBH)

218 >>>Imperial imperative to save face and cover up shortfalls is now combined with communism's amoral pursuit of the Party line and rampant corruption that would make the Mandarins blush.
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It has been suggested that their ships are not made of military grade steel.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (VX4XC)

219 It's amazing what you can get done if you're willing to accept a 10% failure rate for your bridges.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 13, 2025 05:59 PM (1Nv0l)

220 Supposedly, they are fiercely nationalistic and full of pride at their wondrous accomplishments.

I am not sure how much that is propaganda on how well their propaganda works or not.

Are conditions better than the soviet union? Probably? I dunno.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:59 PM (zZu0s)

221 reaches a million to one, start lobbing nukes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2025 05:52 PM (npFr7)

You'd have to be so specific about who you killed, because the ones doing all this do not care about the vast majority of their fellow Muslims. They are just potential suicide vest recruits. They literally could not care less about some random village in any of the 'stans.

Best start off with nukes.

Or else target some of the leader's families, and even then, make sure it's favorite sons.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:59 PM (Vvh2V)

222 This is why I question China's military capability. Yes, I've got a book that you all should read, but near the end I note that the combination of China's traditional anti-military culture, the Imperial imperative to save face and cover up shortfalls is now combined with communism's amoral pursuit of the Party line and rampant corruption that would make the Mandarins blush.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (ZOv7s)

Projection is certainly a big issue for them for a lot of reason including geography and both a huge and aging population. The flip side is that damaging them with our military is just about impossible. Terrain and weather makes digging even a weak army out of all that land will be impossible.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)

223 As for Chinese engineering, they steal what they can from us, and make the rest up. Then the contractors get ahold of the design, cut out about 15% for their own profit, and then people die.

I'm not going to China, not for a visit, not on a dare.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:55 PM (yKmBH)
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Traditional China had serious engineering chops. They invented gunpowder (though didn't know what to do with it) and their cities were amazing. Chinese siege warfare was something else.

But communism took the idea of low bidder to new depths. The Party believes in nothing but itself and the personal enrichment of its members. Even the Soviets could do quality control on T-34s and stuff. I don't think the ChiComs have any notion of what that even in.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (ZOv7s)
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I’ve been to China several times. They were great trips. I would definitely go again. To each his own.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (/4Vgn)

224 So

China hires all-girl DEI engineers for bridges too.

Huh

Posted by: Florida International University at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (u+AWT)

225 It's funny but Marxism seems to be a bigger force for mass-produced shoddy goods than "Capitalism".

To prove "Communism works"!!

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (krQz2)

226 Yet 10yrs after that massacre they still open their weak arms to ISIS boat loads from Africa and elsewhere. So that someday in the future this will be their new world.

Ace, I have to thank you for my paying attention to that crud on the bottom of slime ooze, Fuentes. I saw really horrible stuff about him today. Worse than I thought. I was arguing with someone who turned it into him not liking Fuentes but, somehow, calling me a neo-con who wants war. Um, no. I specifically called on the division of conservatives over this matter he, Carlson and Cookie Candace are spewing.

I ripped a few huge farhts in his direction and, in turn, digging up some stuff on Fuentes. Not only anti-semitic but he compared the deaths of Jews, the numbers, to baking cookies and using basic math. With a sneer on his ugly face.

I did my part as I do see this division and I am not one to turn away from a fight, altho I try to avoid it and peace, man. Blows kisses!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (MAl//)

227 Fetterman did no push himself.

Posted by: alpine_beer at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (van9r)

228 tcn, correct. Which is why the spread of Christianity in China is very, very good news.

It's frustrating that it will take at least several more generations for its values to finally take hold and make life actually valuable there, but at least they appear to be going in that direction.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (Ixlky)

229 214 tcn, yup.
If in my whole life I never leave the western US, I'm perfectly okay with that.

ONLY possible exceptions are where my family is in Arkansas and Iowa, and exploring cajun/creole cuisine in Louisiana.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (Ixlky)

Rule #1: Never leave Alaska in the summer. It is why we live here.

Rule #2: Never visit somewhere that people want you dead. See: Islam, Mexican cartels, etc.

Rule #3: Avoid big cities and the feral populations therein.

There are probably more.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (yKmBH)

230 I am not sure how much that is propaganda on how well their propaganda works or not.

Are conditions better than the soviet union? Probably? I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 05:59 PM (zZu0s)

The tech they have at the tip of the spear is better. The fact that there are lots of lumps of failure under the carpets where nobody is looking is probably about the same.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:02 PM (8avO+)

231 Mamdani said his administration is ready to prove that there is no problem "too big" for the government to solve.

Apparently, not considering scarcity and mortality problems....

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:02 PM (krQz2)

232 The Chinese do not have any ethical considerations of the value of the individual. Without the Creator God, they are all in it for themselves. Autonomy, certainly, so they can do as they please. It is difficult for us to understand that mindset, because we have the Judeo-Christian framework that values each person as a child of God.

I think that accounts for the misery of life in China from time immemorial.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 05:58 PM (yKmBH)
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Current China is not historical China.

Traditional Chinese culture values the collective and the family rather than the individual, but compared to the West there was a path for people of any class to pass the Imperial Examinations and become part of the elite.

If you were a bad person, you would shame your ancestors and your descendants would ignore your grave, harming you in the afterlife.

But now there's no afterlife, so just get what you can!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 06:02 PM (ZOv7s)

233 48 "The Grand Tour" did a segment in China, I think it was. One portion of the China tour was filmed during a rain storm on a highway and one of the presenters, Clarkson I think it was, casually mentioned the builders had neglected to install drainage for the highway.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 13, 2025 05:24 PM (UJMvS)

That seems to be a common problem in China. I saw a video of a raised one lane road with high sidewalls that completely filled with water due to a bad rainstorm. How do you forget the basics like drainage? And it should be easy to do on a raised road.

Posted by: Farquad at November 13, 2025 06:02 PM (CFMhl)

234 The Chinese do not have any ethical considerations of the value of the individual. Without the Creator God, they are all in it for themselves. Autonomy, certainly, so they can do as they please. It is difficult for us to understand that mindset, because we have the Judeo-Christian framework that values each person as a child of God.

I think that accounts for the misery of life in China from time immemorial.
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This will end up getting willowed, but I agree with you completely. The over-riding problem with much of Asian culture is the lack of Judeo-Christian ethics. Cambodia under Pol Pot is more damning than anything Lenin or Stalin dreamed of. More than 20 percent of that country was murdered or starved in a few short years because there was no cultural limitation to what one could do and still be considered "normal". Somehow a country that had about 8 million people killed/starved around 2 million of its population.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:03 PM (TN0g+)

235 211 Today is the Feast Day of Mother Cabrini, canonized for her work with immigrants, so we got preached at a little this morning about welcoming the illegal invaders.
Posted by: Oglebay

How can somebody be a mother if they haven't given birth? I'm calling BS. Unless you talkin' 'bout Shaft.

Posted by: Shet Yo' Mouf! at November 13, 2025 06:03 PM (oftw2)

236 DU wants you to know who isn't mentioned in the Epstein Files.

Kamala! Harris
Bernie Sanders

Not mentioned: Big Penguin

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (0sNs1)

237 Granted - the cab driver is still riving that cab- as will his children, and children's children.

When you have grievance and hate in your heart, you'll never get out of the rut you are in.
Posted by: El Mariachi

*adds up SNAP, housing, and medical benefits*

Works for us

ALLAHU ACKBAR!

Posted by: multi-culti Uber driver, NO DOGS OR JOOZ at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (u+AWT)

238 Mamdani said his administration is ready to prove that there is no problem "too big" for the government to solve.
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Which any freshman who has completed Econ 101 could rebut with 3 words: Supply & Demand.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (TN0g+)

239 It has been suggested that their ships are not made of military grade steel.
Posted by: Braenyard

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Did you know that commercial ships have to meet military standards, for example a normal RORO ferry (roll on roll off) has decks that can support military vehicles. Not sure they will, but they are supposed to.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (2P76b)

240 I heard they used Chinese steel. Should have known better.

Posted by: Charles Martel at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (smrxK)

241 At one point in his career, my husband was part of a design team for a kind of craft--I'm sure there's a technical term but I don't know it--to be lowered to a damaged submarine to rescue the crew.

When they tried to market it to China, there were blank stares: if the submarine has sunk, what would the crew have to do when they got to the surface?

No sale.

I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for the stranded astronauts.

Posted by: Wenda at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (qQnsV)

242 Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 05:57 PM (8son's.

I believe it was set down to a construction accident. And truthfully, it could've been. But churches were being burnt down all over France, by Muslims, and it was a Muslim crew.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (Vvh2V)

243
ace seems a bit surely today.

Surely? You jest!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (pkeXY)

244 Projection is certainly a big issue for them for a lot of reason including geography and both a huge and aging population. The flip side is that damaging them with our military is just about impossible. Terrain and weather makes digging even a weak army out of all that land will be impossible.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)
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They can't feed their population with imported food.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

245 I just assume it’s all a means to reduce population. Like instead of the big people garbage trucks they had in Soylent Green just have a bunch of extremely janky amusement park rides and let them sort it out.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM

Between Six Flags and Action Park that sounds like New Jersey in the 80s

Posted by: Josephistan at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (G0Uu2)

246 tcn, yup thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (Ixlky)

247 228 tcn, correct. Which is why the spread of Christianity in China is very, very good news.

It's frustrating that it will take at least several more generations for its values to finally take hold and make life actually valuable there, but at least they appear to be going in that direction.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (Ixlky)

The Chinese government subverted the efforts of Catholics in China. They now have the "Patriotic Catholic Church" which is a mouthpiece for the commies, and the True Church is entirely underground and persecuted like nobody's business.

I think the spread of Christianity is mostly on hold these days. It is certainly one ugly mess.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (yKmBH)

248 We don't need no steenking rebar.

Posted by: Chinese engineer at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (UjdFS)

249 Which any freshman who has completed Econ 101 could rebut with 3 words: Supply & Demand.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:04 PM (TN0g+)


Or with two words: Animal Spirits

Posted by: mrp at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (rj6Yv)

250 It's funny but Marxism seems to be a bigger force for mass-produced shoddy goods than "Capitalism".

To prove "Communism works"!!
Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:01 PM (krQz2)

In Capitalism you want repeat sales and have competition. Another factor is that outside capitalism, the government has no way of knowing how much something really costs so they can't balance competing needs or wants sensibly.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (8avO+)

251 Maybe they coulda used a coupla Throg necks in that thing to strengthen it.

Posted by: No Sleep Till Brooklyn at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (7Q0e+)

252 Without imported food

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (ZOv7s)

253 The owner who only hired Moroccan immigrants, smeared him because he knew he was culpable.
Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8jEeq)

Sounds like a situation that is ripe for extrajudicial punishment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (npFr7)

254 Love Dire Straits, but not so much Brothers in Arms. And hate that French interpretive dance.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (XvL8K)

255
But now there's no afterlife, so just get what you can!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Mao's Little Red Book is one long explication of YOLO

Posted by: Miklos, emulating Lei Feng at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (u+AWT)

256 Funny how Muslims seem to have no end of grievances that justify killing innocents.

The Koran says that people existing who aren't Muslims is a grievance that justifies killing. It's not a high bar.

Also, seen on X: University College London is teaching the Jewish blood libel with the matzohs. Yes, in an actual class.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 13, 2025 06:07 PM (oyazo)

257 Fun thought experiment:

For some strange reason, the US has to give one entire state to China, and three to Canada.

Which do you choose to go away? :-)
I know I have my own ideas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:07 PM (Ixlky)

258
Throwing a dam up on the Yangtze was madness.

All dams are temporary. When the 3 Gorges busts millions will die.

Posted by: Auspex at November 13, 2025 06:07 PM (Y8DZL)

259 Love Dire Straits, but not so much Brothers in Arms.
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Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)

260 >>>212 Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8jEeq)

I remember there being talk about security being in on it.

I personally think the fire at Notre Dame was arson. A Muslim crew were working in the area the fire started in.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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They should be invited to leave this country.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (VX4XC)

261 Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)

I think this is a fundamental failure of our thoughts on military strategy. Do we NEED to dig them out to accomplish our goal? What is our goal?

Defend Taiwan? Nuke 3 gorges. Let them deal. That would work. Practical from a realistic standpoint? Probably not, and thats too bad. For a Taiwan under invasion? Think the math is different there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)

262 Imagine driving on a two lane bridge hundreds of feet in the air. Oncoming traffic speeding at you and slow motion death just a couple of feet away.

Posted by: pawn at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (sPsWv)

263 tcn, correct. I've also read about the fake Bibles the Chinese have printed and distributed.

I am praying, hoping and suspecting that most Chinese who are smart enough to embrace Christianity, are also smart enough to openly see their government is lying to them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (Ixlky)

264 ChristyBlinkyTheGreat, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Someone on youtube was commenting that ignoring Fuentes is like ignoring the Bavarian corporal in 1938. I told that one it's more like 1931. We don't want to punch out Fuentes-curious young men (yet).
My problem with Fuentes is like my problem with that corporal. He's an opportunist. There are real problems in the market right now and people, including people related to commenters here, are getting fucked.
Does Fuentes have the right solutions? Hell no. The corporal didn't either.
But someone's got to provide solutions or they're going to go to the only person who even acts like he cares enough.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (gKWVE)

265 I just assume it’s all a means to reduce population. Like instead of the big people garbage trucks they had in Soylent Green just have a bunch of extremely janky amusement park rides and let them sort it out.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 13, 2025 05:51 PM

Between Six Flags and Action Park that sounds like New Jersey in the 80s
Posted by: Josephistan at November 13, 2025 06:05 PM (G0Uu2)

The looming problem for China is not having enough people to carry the burden of the older generations retiring in the near future. Traditionally the extended family did that, now with one child policy, or no children they have some problems ahead.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (8avO+)

266 Mao's Little Red Book is one long explication of YOLO
Posted by: Miklos, emulating Lei Feng at November 13, 2025 06:06 PM (u+AWT)


Mao's Cultural Revolution was millions of screaming, murderous goblins destroying the lives of millions people for the hell of it. The hell of it.

Posted by: mrp at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (rj6Yv)

267 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (VX4XC)

You are very polite! 😁

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (Vvh2V)

268 Love Dire Straits, but not so much Brothers in Arms.
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Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.
Posted by: Crusader
__________

The guitar work at the end of Tunnel of Love is his pinnacle for me.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (XvL8K)

269 Saint Frances Cabrini in Colerain, Ohio - best bingo in the ti-state area.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (GPa4z)

270 Imagine driving on a two lane bridge hundreds of feet in the air. Oncoming traffic speeding at you and slow motion death just a couple of feet away.
Posted by: pawn at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (sPsWv)

My balls would be trying to crawl in my stomach the whole way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 06:11 PM (zZu0s)

271 As a black lesbian non-binary engineer it looks to me like a perfectly good bridge.

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2025 06:11 PM (v0R5T)

272 Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)

I think this is a fundamental failure of our thoughts on military strategy. Do we NEED to dig them out to accomplish our goal? What is our goal?

Defend Taiwan? Nuke 3 gorges. Let them deal. That would work. Practical from a realistic standpoint? Probably not, and thats too bad. For a Taiwan under invasion? Think the math is different there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)

Nukes really aren't a part of military strategy question. You don't win defending Taiwan if China replies by incinerating all Taiwan's cities. And a lot of US ones as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:11 PM (8avO+)

273 Insert the Norm MacDonald meme here.

It's the most perfect created.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at November 13, 2025 06:12 PM (th/4a)

274 Non-binary engineer? Those two things are mutually exclusive, darlin'. Engineering is a yes or no proposition.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 13, 2025 06:12 PM (yKmBH)

275 Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)

Agree. See also, David Gilmour.

Les Paul: Ace Frehley, Slash
Gibson SG: Tony Iommi, Angus Young
ESP Kamikaze: George Lynch
BC Rich Gunslinger: Tracii guns
Jackson Soloist: Criss Oliva

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 13, 2025 06:12 PM (0aYVJ)

276 The 3 Gorges Dam keeps about a billion people safe. And about 40% of international trade flowing. Including a shit ton of merch we depend on. Like it or not.

The people...

The trade...

If one goes, so does the other.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 13, 2025 06:12 PM (NwnyJ)

277 Not sure this bridge collapse is the fault of the bridge builders. The mountainside it was connected to slid down onto the bridge pylons. Seems like that is a helluva stress. Now if the bridge company had the scope for building the connecting road and stabilizing the mountain as well, yes its their fault.

But if the a different CCP company ZY had the contract to stabilize the road and mountside to, well this crash reminds me of the Force 10 from Navarone movie where they take out an upstream dam to destroy the bridge that is so heavily guarded they'd never be able to set charges on it.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (/jn/s)

278 Nukes really aren't a part of military strategy question. You don't win defending Taiwan if China replies by incinerating all Taiwan's cities. And a lot of US ones as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:11 PM (8avO+)

By the same token neither do they.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (zZu0s)

279 Imagine driving on a two lane bridge hundreds of feet in the air. Oncoming traffic speeding at you and slow motion death just a couple of feet away.
Posted by: pawn
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Life is fickle, and comes at you fast. I know of a guy who was struck and killed by a falling tree...while he was riding a motorcycle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (XeU6L)

280 There are real problems in the market right now and people, including people related to commenters here, are getting fucked.
Does Fuentes have the right solutions? Hell no. The corporal didn't either.
But someone's got to provide solutions or they're going to go to the only person who even acts like he cares enough.
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Quit bringing that turd up. If you want to discuss "How do we bring out the youth to vote?", that's a completely different topic than the anti-semitic and markedly NOT "right wing" or "far right wing" Nick Fuentes.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (TN0g+)

281 No one with the stones to say "Roulons!" ??

I don't understand, 130 people just waited their turn?
Wuo-shang mayer, maysheen byen shr-to

I know we mock all things French, but 130 weren't all cowards. It's easy to talk tough about a horror you've yet to experience. I'm some of these did, but when the moment came... There must be a valid reason they didn't fight back. I think it's important to know why.

And for all you Firefly fans who caught that - what do we have for them Bob? A dream walk with Kaylee. Some of you might want to stretch before bed.

Posted by: Fen at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (ciYHQ)

282 Maybe they coulda used a coupla Throg necks in that thing to strengthen it.
Posted by: No Sleep Till Brooklyn
.....

and some sky hooks.

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2025 06:13 PM (v0R5T)

283 To whomever above mentioned China's cultural revolution:

The CR is what America's left is trying to do now. They're just trying to do it without too much violence, using social ostracization and intimidation instead.

But the American left is now also convincing itself that violence is okay and necessary.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:14 PM (Ixlky)

284 1. Since the goal of a Marxist system is to provide dignity and a living to the "workers" and that access to be a receiver of the products of labor are controlled by the same central authority, less value is placed on the quality of product.

2. However, because the government has a monopoly on information, the architects of the system get to laud the shoddier quality produced as "proof the system works" (regardless of whether it does or not).

3. While shoddy quality exists in a Free Market, the failure to produce the quality product of people's demand is not as likely to be systemic. And the challenge is to another part of the market to provide a higher quality good that actually is the most worthy to trade cash for.

Conclusion: Marxism is much more likely to produce a dearth of quality than Free economies. Especially since the body responsible for the product does not have an equal monopoly on the information that can be disseminated.

Musk might possibly try to suppress scandals about Tesla quality on X, but he does not "Own the means of production" for all information. A Marxian system does by design.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:14 PM (krQz2)

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:15 PM (krQz2)

286 Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)

Agree. See also, David Gilmour.

Les Paul: Ace Frehley, Slash
Gibson SG: Tony Iommi, Angus Young
ESP Kamikaze: George Lynch
BC Rich Gunslinger: Tracii guns
Jackson Soloist: Criss Oliva
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I saw LA Guns live a couple of years ago and was amazed at how well Traci Guns still plays live, and yes he had a BC Rich Gunslinger onstage for about half the show.

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:15 PM (TN0g+)

287 Non-binary engineer? Those two things are mutually exclusive, darlin'. Engineering is a yes or no proposition.
Posted by: tcn
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Unless...and I make this comment in good humor, the engineer is an IE. In which case, a clipboard and stopwatch are the tools of the trade.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2025 06:15 PM (XeU6L)

288 And just like that. Things go to shit.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2025 06:15 PM (CQqXL)

289 282 Maybe they coulda used a coupla Throg necks in that thing to strengthen it.
Posted by: No Sleep Till Brooklyn
.....

and some sky hooks.
Posted by: wth at November

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I coulda shown how it's done.

Posted by: Pulaski at November 13, 2025 06:16 PM (2P76b)

290 ChristyBlinkyTheGreat, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Someone on youtube was commenting that ignoring Fuentes is like ignoring the Bavarian corporal in 1938. I told that one it's more like 1931. We don't want to punch out Fuentes-curious young men (yet).
My problem with Fuentes is like my problem with that corporal. He's an opportunist. There are real problems in the market right now and people, including people related to commenters here, are getting fucked.
Does Fuentes have the right solutions? Hell no. The corporal didn't either.
But someone's got to provide solutions or they're going to go to the only person who even acts like he cares enough.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (gKWVE)

I don't see Fuentes as a problem, he's just the end product of the media's search for a white nationalist and he still isn't a very good fit. He's glib, and smarter than most of the media drawing fire to him. The US even today doesn't have the cauldron of ex-WWI troops and endemic Jew hatred culturally to launch him very far.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:17 PM (8avO+)

291 The CR is what America's left is trying to do now. They're just trying to do it without too much violence, using social ostracization and intimidation instead.

But the American left is now also convincing itself that violence is okay and necessary.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:14 PM (Ixlky)
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Well, the Marxists know that America is not as desperate as the Chinese serf was.

Thus, Americans will not consider the same "price" for revolution. However, the American left is trying to drive people crazy, so that they will be more irrational about the "purchase" of revolution.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:17 PM (krQz2)

292 Ho Lee Fuk.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 13, 2025 06:17 PM (JVuEd)

293 I remember thinking at the time of that massacre, if this doesn't wake the French up, nothing will. The French were upset for a few days and then hit the snooze button.
Posted by: Duke Lowell


They might have woken up if the authorities hadn't hidden the extent of the carnage.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 13, 2025 06:17 PM (a+4eV)

294 I was a Surface Coating Engineer in my younger days.
Then I got sick of the smell of paint.

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (v0R5T)

295 Fun thought experiment:

For some strange reason, the US has to give one entire state to China, and three to Canada.

Which do you choose to go away? :-)
I know I have my own ideas.
Posted by: qdpsteve

For this purpose, can Puerto Rico be considered a state?

Anyway, China gets Vermont, we get Hong Kong.

Posted by: Miklos used to play Risk at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (u+AWT)

296
Won't need a nuke to take out 3 Gorges. Think of "Force 10 from Navarone."

There. It's a movie thread.

Posted by: Auspex at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Y8DZL)

297 264 ChristyBlinkyTheGreat, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Someone on youtube was commenting that ignoring Fuentes is like ignoring the Bavarian corporal in 1938. I told that one it's more like 1931. We don't want to punch out Fuentes-curious young men (yet).
My problem with Fuentes is like my problem with that corporal. He's an opportunist. There are real problems in the market right now and people, including people related to commenters here, are getting fucked.
Does Fuentes have the right solutions? Hell no. The corporal didn't either.
But someone's got to provide solutions or they're going to go to the only person who even acts like he cares enough.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 13, 2025 06:09 PM (gKWVE)

He is evil. Said stuff with a sneer and smile. Some defend his "youth." Bull. I was raised right and never thought of some of the garbage he spews, not just against Jews but blacks, calling women whores, and praising Hitler.

You are what comes out of your mouth. Luke 6:45.

His mouth is a bottomless pit of evil from the little I have heard from him and don't care to hear again.

Fight this, Morons, on any field that presents. Ace is 1000% correct about Fuentes.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (MAl//)

298 I personally think the fire at Notre Dame was arson. A Muslim crew were working in the area the fire started in.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (Vvh2V)

It's no coincidence that churches across Europe, but especially France, are burning down at an alarming rate far beyond that of any other structure. (And you never hear about a Mosque burning down there).

Remember party of their tenant is to destroy churches and build mosques on the ground to show victory and dominance.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (6Cif2)

299 Like instead of the big people garbage trucks they had in Soylent Green just have a bunch of extremely janky amusement park rides and let them sort it out.
Posted by: banana Dream


Oh, the "remove the warning labels" school of public safety

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 13, 2025 06:18 PM (a+4eV)

300 I was a Surface Coating Engineer in my younger days.
Then I got sick of the smell of paint.
Posted by: wth

You were trying too hard

Posted by: K-Y Jelly at November 13, 2025 06:19 PM (u+AWT)

301 Sounds like a situation that is ripe for extrajudicial punishment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Still have that link to that Canadian bridge?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:19 PM (VX4XC)

302 Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.
Posted by: Crusader
__________

The guitar work at the end of Tunnel of Love is his pinnacle for me.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (XvL8K)
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Telegraph Road.

No, actually DS has quite a good keyboardist and Private Investigations is quite a good tune, IMO. Although there is plenty of MK riffing on that too.

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:19 PM (krQz2)

303 I saw LA Guns live a couple of years ago and was amazed at how well Traci Guns still plays live, and yes he had a BC Rich Gunslinger onstage for about half the show.
Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:15 PM (TN0g+)

I have an '88 BC Rich Gunslinger. I hardly ever play anymore (it was always a hobby for me, to be honest - not all-in like my buddy), but I love that axe. The neck is very friendly for my average sized hands, and it has an EMG pickup and a Floyd Rose tremolo. It's fun to mess around with it. Got a couple of Peavey amps as well. But, alas, they are in storage. We live in an apartment currently.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 13, 2025 06:19 PM (0aYVJ)

304 Miklos, I'd love if the USA got HK, but I didn't build in a provision for trade. :-)

USA would have to give up stuff, without any expectation for something new.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:20 PM (Ixlky)

305 What do you type to close tags?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 13, 2025 06:20 PM (JVuEd)

306 Axeman, true.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (Ixlky)

307 To whomever above mentioned China's cultural revolution:

The CR is what America's left is trying to do now. They're just trying to do it without too much violence, using social ostracization and intimidation instead.

But the American left is now also convincing itself that violence is okay and necessary.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:14 PM (Ixlky)

in late Mao times China had been a monoculture for a long time and thus no brakes. The left here is a lot weaker and their factions have different goals enough to have faction fighting break out. The Eco freaks and psycho killers and jew haters aren't aligned too well. The colleges need to be cleansed though.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)

308 298 I personally think the fire at Notre Dame was arson. A Muslim crew were working in the area the fire started in.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 13, 2025 05:53 PM (Vvh2V)

Yep.

A moose limb with his little white gown was photographed on the roof at the beginning of the fire. I was in Notre Dame three times before the fire. I truly hope it has been reconstructed to look the same.

I will mourn when similar may happen to Westminster Abbey. You know it may with their increasing population.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (MAl//)

309 The way to deal with these musloid terrorists? Ten for one retaliation. Obliterate some muzzie village in Buttfuckistan. If they do it again, up the ante to a hundred to one. Then a thousand to one/ When it reaches a million to one, start lobbing nukes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2025 05:52 PM (npFr7)

Someone just needs to give the nod to Erik Prince to go use one of the countries as a testing ground, and will pretend it didn't happen as long as there are no identifiers on his planes.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (HRcT4)

310 Wasn't Clark Griswold a surface coating engineer?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (JVuEd)

311 >>>The Koran says that people existing who aren't Muslims is a grievance that justifies killing. It's not a high bar.

Also, seen on X: University College London is teaching the Jewish blood libel with the matzohs. Yes, in an actual class.
Posted by: Ian S
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It's time for them to go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (VX4XC)

312
Re: Bataclan

One security video clip that really stuck with me is when two women hid behind a planter just outside a cafe and one of the savages walked up with his Kalashnikov, bent over the planter and pointed the rifle at them point blank. But the Kalash was jammed and wouldn't fire. When the women realized it, they stood up and ran down the street while he struggled with the bolt, trying to clear the stoppage.

I don't know which was more terrifying to watch, a goat-fucking savage on a rampage, or the Hand of God coming down and giving the most reliable human-made assault rifle in the world a good choking to save the two women.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (y9nCu)

313 On the "Brothers in Arms" video:

You know you're in France when the interpretive dancers appear.

Posted by: sigmadog at November 13, 2025 06:22 PM (9KnxU)

314 Still have that link to that Canadian bridge?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:19 PM (VX4XC)

No, I don't save the links. It's the new bridge over the Kicking Horse River on the Trans-Canada Highway. I say, "new" but it's going on ten years now, I think.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2025 06:22 PM (npFr7)

315 Oldcat, also true. Hey, maybe diversity is our strength after all. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:22 PM (Ixlky)

316 Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.
Posted by: Crusader
__________

The guitar work at the end of Tunnel of Love is his pinnacle for me.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 13, 2025 06:10 PM (XvL8K)
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Telegraph Road.

No, actually DS has quite a good keyboardist and Private Investigations is quite a good tune, IMO. Although there is plenty of MK riffing on that too.
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I also love "Once Upon A Time in the West" and "In the Galleria"

Posted by: Crusader at November 13, 2025 06:23 PM (TN0g+)

317 Where's that confounded bridge?

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2025 06:23 PM (v0R5T)

318 Someone just needs to give the nod to Erik Prince to go use one of the countries as a testing ground, and will pretend it didn't happen as long as there are no identifiers on his planes.
Posted by: Rbastid
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Fuck the other countries.

Get them out of America.

Get them out of this hemisphere.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:23 PM (VX4XC)

319 nood
Italian scifi fantasy and Lumpy Jack

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 13, 2025 06:24 PM (2P76b)

320 Someone on youtube was commenting that ignoring Fuentes is like ignoring the Bavarian corporal in 1938.
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As far as I can see, no one ever described a Fuentes speech as being "turned inside out like a glove".

Analogies are only as useful as they are.

You can put various people into that proposition: Ignoring X is like ignoring the Viennese Corporal (he wished he'd been a Bavarian!)

This is likely also from people who have a suspect use of the word "like". Yes, "ignoring" one politico is *inherently* "like" ignoring another. In that a political figure is ignored.

There are so many people who use a single overlap as "like".

Posted by: Axeman at November 13, 2025 06:24 PM (krQz2)

321 >>Mark Knopfler playing a Strat just seems to be the *only* Dire Straits that matters to me.


I'm pretty sure a lot of that LP was cut using a Pensa/Suhr guitar.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2025 06:24 PM (rO4EG)

322 Brothers in Arms, I mean.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2025 06:25 PM (rO4EG)

323 Though they don't say they "stopped" traffic, only that they imposed "temporary traffic controls."

I would think the "temporary traffic controls" with the collapse of the Chicom bridge due to a rapid and unexpected dismissably are effectively permanent.

The YouTube channels, "The China Show" and "China Observer" cover the "mishaps" that occur in ChicomLand. Both seem knowledgeable about the subject matter but who really knows, YMWV.

The China Show: https://is.gd/OxexpK
China Observer: https://is.gd/wu5OTG

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 13, 2025 06:26 PM (uv8gn)

324 Musk on the warpath against NGO's and Social Security fraudsters:

https://tinyurl.com/jjcfumnn

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 13, 2025 06:27 PM (lUFok)

325 bridge over the Kicking Horse River on the Trans-Canada Highway. I say, "new" but it's going on ten years now, I think.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


https://tinyurl.com/4nyhmnj4

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:27 PM (VX4XC)

326 But the American left is now also convincing itself that violence is okay and necessary.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2025 06:14 PM (Ixlky)

They always were that way. Back in the days when I socialized with liberals I had a game called 'road to death camps' where I saw how quickly their utopia visions led to them to need to crush out dissent. It never took very long.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:27 PM (8avO+)

327 Also, seen on X: University College London is teaching the Jewish blood libel with the matzohs. Yes, in an actual class.

They do realize that eating blood isn't kosher, right?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 13, 2025 06:28 PM (a+4eV)

328 >>They do realize that eating blood isn't kosher, right?


It all depends on how you kill the pig.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2025 06:29 PM (rO4EG)

329 The YouTube channels, "The China Show" and "China Observer" cover the "mishaps" that occur in ChicomLand. Both seem knowledgeable about the subject matter but who really knows, YMWV.

The China Show: https://is.gd/OxexpK
China Observer: https://is.gd/wu5OTG
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 13, 2025 06:26 PM (uv8gn)

The China Show dudes were full time residents, used to ride motorbikes in China to see things and put them on the web. They married Chinese wives and eventually had to flee China to the US when repression started going up. I haven't seen many of their US shows since then.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 13, 2025 06:30 PM (8avO+)

330 "Nukes really aren't a part of military strategy question. You don't win defending Taiwan if China replies by incinerating all Taiwan's cities. And a lot of US ones as well."

It's going to come down to Will, not hardware. And unfortunately China has been chipping away as ours.

I find it odd that the Left has thrown everything but the kitchen sink...AND CHINA.. at Trump. By the law of averages Trump should have been falsely accused of nefarious plots involving China. And that never happened? Even by accident? That's either incredible luck or incredible message discipline

Posted by: Fen at November 13, 2025 06:32 PM (ciYHQ)

331 off topic

Tesla's significant drop highlights investor anxiety over demand and market conditions, exacerbated by high volatility.
_yahoo [and other bs]
If Musk meets his demand it will quadruple. Buy the man [or not] but not the bs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:34 PM (VX4XC)

332 330 "Nukes really aren't a part of military strategy question. You don't win defending Taiwan if China replies by incinerating all Taiwan's cities. And a lot of US ones as well."
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Get that violin at a pawn shop?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2025 06:35 PM (VX4XC)

333 Images from the Bataclan do still get around.

A lot of things get around, where most people don't/won't encounter them. Things in Western Europe are significantly worse than most here think.

Posted by: heya at November 13, 2025 06:36 PM (eqyGq)

334 "Fight this, Morons, on any field that presents. Ace is 1000% correct about Fuentes."

Damn straight. Someone get him to wander outside the range of all the security cams and I'm your Huckleberry. How many times have we had the "if only someone had seen the signs" conversation? Well here it is, a second chance to remove a mediocre painter. Of all the ways to die, to do so taking out a wannabe Hitler is not a bad way to go out

Posted by: Fen at November 13, 2025 06:44 PM (ciYHQ)

335 Mmm Ursula Undress... Back in the day if we'd hooked up, King Arthur himself couldn't pull me out.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at November 13, 2025 06:47 PM (wBaIH)

336 I don't know which was more terrifying to watch, a goat-fucking savage on a rampage, or the Hand of God coming down and giving the most reliable human-made assault rifle in the world a good choking to save the two women.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2025 06:21 PM (y9nCu)

I thank God.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 13, 2025 06:47 PM (MAl//)

337 All I know about Chinese military capability is from reading accounts of the Korean War. They just use their population advantage to send wave after wave of soldiers to overwhelm the enemy. Pure cannon fodder. The UN forces were able to drive them back to the current DMZ because the Chinese outran their supply lines.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 13, 2025 06:48 PM (xverI)

338 Mmm Ursula Undress... Back in the day if we'd hooked up, King Arthur himself couldn't pull me out.

that rates a 9 on a 10 scale

Posted by: DanMan at November 13, 2025 07:26 PM (8uzBS)

339 Is karma the Buddhist thing?
If so, the Monkees and this bridge collapse are making me a believer.

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at November 13, 2025 07:43 PM (7Yh4P)

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