Eight Democrats Vote for Cloture on CR Bill, Securing Only Minor Concessions

Eight Democrats gave up the ghost and voted to end the filibuster. In case you're not up to speed on how this works, before a vote on the actual merits of a bill can happen, the Senate must vote for "cloture," for the closing of all debate on the bill. This requires 60, not 50, votes, though the vote on the bill itself requires 51 (or 50 plus a VP tie-breaker vote).

Eight Democrats just voted for cloture so that the entire Senate can now vote on the bill itself. The vote was 60-40, with eight Democrats joining the Republicans to end debate, and grandstanding douchebag Rand Paul of course joining the Democrats to show how pure and virtuous he is.

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
Senate breaks Dem filibuster on to end the government shutdown
8 Dems vote YES
🔵 Durbin
🔵 Kaine
🔵 King
🔵 Shaheen
🔵 Rosen
🔵 Hassan
🔵Fetterman
🔵 Cortez Masto
1 GOP NO
🔴 Rand Paul

Apparently John Cornyn wasn't present for the vote for a while and had to fly to DC to finally cast the 60th vote. Rand Paul of course would not supply that last vote. When the RINO John Cornyn finally made it into work, he voted "Yes" to end debate.

Thune did not "cave," as people had worried, to get the cloture vote. Some concessions were made, which I guess you can object to on principle. But the left is going berserk over how little the Democrats got so I guess by negative inference we can say that Thune "won," mostly.

I don't know if it's true that the "Democrats lost everything in the shutdown" as PJ Media's Matt Margolis says, but it does seem like they got doodly squat and they only got 30% of the doodly they demanded.

This is what capitulation looks like, and the left knows it.
The deal is simple. Schumer's caucus agreed to advance a package of spending bills that will reopen the government and extend funding through January.
That's it.
No sweeping policy concessions, no big wins tucked into the fine print, no "historic framework" or "moral victory." Just a basic continuing resolution, dressed up with some boilerplate back pay for furloughed workers and funding for food assistance through next fall. In other words, exactly what Republicans had put on the table before the Democrats decided to make a scene.
This shutdown began because Schumer thought he could strongarm the GOP into extending Obamacare subsidies that were set to expire and repealing Medicaid reforms that closed a loophole handing out free healthcare to illegal immigrants. President Trump and Republican leaders had already said they planned to address those subsidies separately, aiming to rein them in and curb abuse. But Schumer wanted drama. He shut down the government over it, thinking Republicans would blink.
They didn't.

Although there is nothing being added to the CR itself that can be called a concession to Democrats, Thune and the Republicans did make some minor promises about what they'll grant the Democrats in exchange for a cloture vote:

OSZ
@OpenSourceZone
Proposed Government Funding Bill To End The Government Shutdown:
🔴 Fund the government through January 31
🔴 Promise to vote on ACA subsidies in December
🔴 Reverse the mass layoffs of federal workers (RIFs) since Oct. 1
🔴 Provide full-year funding for Veterans Affairs
🔴 Provide full-year funding for SNAP

On the last two, I don't know what's being given up here. This is my guess: Democrats want SNAP and Veterans Affairs funded now for a full year so if they shut the government down again, they will not have to worry about their EBT army shrieking about "starving." As far as Veterans Affairs -- I dunno, Democrats don't really care about veterans.

On YouTube, Dr. Steve Turley says that that guarantee of a restoration of the jobs Trump cut during the shutdown isn't as big a concession as it seems. He says that while Republicans agree to restore those positions...

1, it does not require Trump to re-hire the people fired from those positions. He can hire other people. MAGA people.

2, it doesn't actually even require Trump to hire anyone. The Republicans agree that these positions will be restored, but there's no promise those positions will be filled.

Is that accurate? Not sure. I heard it from a guy on a webcam.

The last concession is that Republicans agree to a vote on the endless "emergency covid" Obamacare subsidies. I think this means they agree they will not demand a 60-vote threshold for cloture, but they guarantee a vote on the merits. Republicans have 53 votes and I'm almost certain that the Democrat in RINO clothing Lisa Murkoswski will vote for these supposedly temporary emergency covid subsidies, and so will the liberal "Republican" Bill Cassidy in Lousiana. I can imagine another couple of votes coming from the likes of Susan Collins and Tom Tillis (who still plagues us as he's not out of the Senate yet).

Democrats would need 51 votes to get these "temporary emergency covid subsidies" extended.

So I do think that's a concession. I do think that is a very real chit we gave the Democrats.

On the other hand, the Democrats were sabotaging the economy to try to win the 2026 midterms and set the stage for a 2028 win so... pick your poison.

After spending weeks insisting the Republicans caused the shutdown, the entire base is enraged that Democrats aren't continuing to cause the shutdown https://t.co/o954TnwOrd pic.twitter.com/rWPgumE2yX
— Jared Taylor Swift (@DemsRealRacists) November 10, 2025

These people aren't "Traitors," mostly -- they're following orders. As Mark Halperin observed, Chuck Schumer's plan was always to pretend that he is still ready to fight the Republicans until the last overweight EBT charity case dies of starvation. But he will end the shutdown by telling his "moderate" purple-state soldiers to stand down and pretend to "stab him in the back." That way he can still say he's a "Democrat Who Fights" in his 2026 primary battle with AOC.

Dick Durbin, for example, is one of the most partisan, nasty, cynical operators there is, but he was asked to vote to end the shutdown because he is retiring and has no fear of a more stridently left-wing challengers.

No big surprise, but nasty progressive nepo baby Matt Yglesias, who shows how "tough" a prog he is by routinely defending lying as a valid political tool, says that the shutdown was a success because it damaged Trump's poll numbers and got Republicans to fight.

This is true. It’s also true that Matt cares more about gaining power than feeding poor black people Democrats turned into their slavish dependents. pic.twitter.com/FzN0gAAMK5
— Bluesky Libs (@BlueskyLibs) November 10, 2025

I will write more later about this... if I must. On a personal level, I'm pro-ending-the-shutdown, because this is one of the least compelling things to have to write about. I know that's not a good reason to support ending the shutdown but what I can I say?

How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

Mine was a loss. I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM

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Posted by: doug at November 10, 2025 12:15 PM (Hy+R4)

2 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:15 PM (bFu5X)

3 We're saved... unless we're not.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e)

4 Thune did not "cave," as people had worried, to get the cloture vote. Some concessions were made, which I guess you can object to on principle. But the left is going berserk over how little the Democrats got so I guess by negative inference we can say that Thune "won," mostly.
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And I do. Should have given them nothing.

But they still lost and I'm happy about that, as much I was would have preferred withdrawing the bill putting up another one with an extra billion in cuts every day they Dems filibuster it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:17 PM (zxP/x)

5 Cornyn was probably out pretending to be conservative and raising money for his campaign next year.

Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:17 PM (98kQX)

6 did nothing productive nor fun for 25 years

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 10, 2025 12:18 PM (Ac/76)

7 I'm upset about the mass layoffs being reversed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 10, 2025 12:18 PM (xcxpd)

8 Are they changing the actual bill such that a conference committee is required? I heard that Johnson was calling the House back which sort of implies that.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 10, 2025 12:18 PM (jc0TO)

9 Reverse the mass layoffs of federal workers (RIFs) since Oct. 1
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That's it. Buried in the middle of the list as usual. Failing to get what they wanted, the Party defended its own and made damn sure its operators remain in place and fully paid so they can continue advancing the Party agenda with absolutely no personal risk whatsoever, not even of having to find a job somewhere else.

Party Men Must Not Be Harmed. Ever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:19 PM (zxP/x)

10 If Schumer is seen as having been defeated in his heroic stand against Orange Man Bad, that's a win no matter how you slice it.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 10, 2025 12:19 PM (EynyL)

11 As much as we shouldn't be celebrating a CR that kicks the can down the road until January 31st so they can do it all over again, I guess it's something.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:19 PM (IifOV)

12 I say pass the House bill with verbal promises to the Dems, and then crawfish and fuck the old devils in the ass.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 10, 2025 12:19 PM (jc0TO)

13 1, it does not require Trump to re-hire the people fired from those positions. He can hire other people. MAGA people.

2, it doesn't actually even require Trump to hire anyone. The Republicans agree that these positions will be restored, but there's no promise those positions will be filled.
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Okay, I'll be that guy.

This doesn't happen. The fired people are back in place, as of reopening. Maybe one or two people will stay fired - replaced or unfilled position - to provide a talking point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:19 PM (zxP/x)

14 >> I don't know if it's true that the "Democrats lost everything in the shutdown" as PJ Media's Matt Margolis says,

Salem Media has some of the most rote, banal, predictable and unoriginal takes on just about every issue. It’s never insightful, thoughtful, probing or witty, like your posts. I can’t even read that garbage.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (FhIe3)

15 And MattY is a fucking asshole and always has been.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (xcxpd)

16 You seem to be losing a lot of sleep, ace. I'm sorry. Can you possibly get that checked out to why it is happening?

I spent Friday and Saturday preparing for a funeral service on Sunday for our patriarch who was a Korean war vet and had lived in the town for his whole life. He was a machinist and in the Navy We all loved him and I have not seen that many people in the church at one time. The had to go up to the balcony .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (e5V0l)

17 But the left is going berserk over how little the Democrats got

But they always do that, every single time, even when they get the whole pie. "Waaah! We're not getting everything! Waaah!"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (WPL6O)

18 "How is y'all?"

June Cleaver, June Clever to the White Phone, June Clever, June Cleaver to the White phone, for a Jive translation, June Cleaver..."

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (5rh/l)

19 >>>Rand Paul of course would not supply that last vote.

Rand Paul, if turd in the punch bowl were a political ideology.

Posted by: George Costanza at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (i24o9)

20 HOw many were laid off since 10/1, 4k or so ??

Posted by: runner at November 10, 2025 12:21 PM (g47mK)

21 So I do think that's a concession. I do think that is a very real chit we gave the Democrats.
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YUGE, and catastrophic. The GOP needs to be working on actual medical industry reform and winding down the dual catastrophes of Obamacare and COVID policy, not voting to extend both and massively increase fiscal risk. They will do so. That's a huge concession and it's going to work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:21 PM (zxP/x)

22 Anyone have Rand Paul’s neighbor’s phone number?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:21 PM (EYmYM)

23 How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM

Afternoon, Ace. Can't complain (much) today. It was a good weekend. Productive but relaxing. Bottling some beer on my day off tomorrow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:21 PM (bFu5X)

24 Im flying tomorrow so it works for me Stupid dems

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (lCppi)

25 How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?
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Neither great nor terrible. Solid average.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (zxP/x)

26 Bottling some beer on my day off tomorrow.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

My grandfather made his own beer in his basement during Prohibition.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (77rzZ)

27 Any day now Random Paul is going to come out as 'Transition___'.
Not in a political way, or because he feels misgendered.. but because he is super freak furry trans S-M loving nutbar.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (/lPRQ)

28 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (QBs6H)

29 >> Is that accurate? Not sure. I heard it from a guy on a webcam.

Apparently they also can’t fire any gov employee until January 30, 2026.

BTW I believe overall the restoration of these jobs shouldn’t have been granted. Just my opinion. We’re trying to empty the deep staters and these people were purposely targeted for dismissal.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (FhIe3)

30 Is that accurate? Not sure. I heard it from a guy on a webcam.

https://youtu.be/bufTna0WArc

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (ExV1e)

31 I didn't know who "Hassan" was, but figured it was some swarthy middle eastern dude.

Not what I was expecting!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (dGCAG)

32 I could've sworn many morons around here were screaming about the Republicans caving last week.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (Vh9CX)

33 Dems wanted SNAP and Rs wanted Vets - that was actually a swap.

Rs probably would have wanted the DOW in full, but Dems wouldn't give that.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (tOcjL)

34 I spent Friday and Saturday preparing for a funeral service on Sunday for our patriarch who was a Korean war vet and had lived in the town for his whole life. He was a machinist and in the Navy We all loved him and I have not seen that many people in the church at one time. The had to go up to the balcony .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Wow. I guess that shows that there is still hope for our country.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:24 PM (77rzZ)

35 Mine was a loss. I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.

Posted by: Ace

May your sleep and waking days improve forever more.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 12:24 PM (hUzUC)

36 I don’t understand commenters on the Right who aren’t happy with this outcome and continue to doomsay the future.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:24 PM (EYmYM)

37 Democrats would need 51 votes to get these "temporary emergency covid subsidies" extended.

And a majority in the House. And a signature from Trump.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:24 PM (ExV1e)

38 >>>How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

4 hours of Scout community service including a Veteran's Dinner and food drive. Cleaned the gutters and cleaned leaves at the FiL's house. Made bread 2x, canned some beef broth, made some homemade beef stew, and got in some decent video game time.

I am ready for the weekend.

Posted by: George Costanza at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (i24o9)

39 There are some raunchy suspects in that 'yes' Democrat list.
They had a closet meeting on who the eight would be.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (QBs6H)

40 Two immediate thoughts on this:
One, the split within the dems may not be repairable and the old guard is on its way out.
Two, the GOP has learned that if they stand fast, they can win...in spite of the media. I hope they learned this.

Yo Ace!
Weekend was good. Yesterday was a church dessert auction and I porked out of raspberry cheese cake. OMG!!! So good!
Sorry yours was not so good.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (2WIwB)

41 Willowed:

Tulsi Gabbard, grabbing the third rail: “Barack Hussein Obama ordered the overthrow of the United States government — on behalf of Hillary Clinton — after the 2016 election.”
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That's a quite blunt and quite accurate summation. I really like how succinct it is.

Posted by: Crusader at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (TN0g+)

42 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM (QBs6H)
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I like that. Much nicer than "hello, whores and scoundrels!"

https://youtu.be/uCGD9dT12C0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (zxP/x)

43 My grandfather made his own beer in his basement during Prohibition.
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM

This is the Moron Way.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (bFu5X)

44 I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.

Posted by: Ace

Not even drinking? That's both productive and fun, and might help with the insomnia.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (77rzZ)

45 >> Fund the government through January 31

Oh good, we get to do this again in 2.5 months!

I don’t consider funding SNAP and restoring fired Federal workers (with full back-pay!) for three months to be winning, honestly. But the Congressional GOP is spineless and was never going to end the filibuster, leaving it for the Dems to do in 2027 or 2029.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (l3YAf)

46 Cornyn was probably out pretending to be conservative and raising money for his campaign next year.
Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:17 PM (98kQX)

He loves Trump now, he claims, but see him when he's with his buddies Karl Rove and their gang of $$ rinos,and watch his true ire emerge.

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (lCppi)

47 Hey....wait a minute....if this was a Republican Shut Down, why are the Democrats so pissed that 8 of their side voted to open the government...and, ultimately, it's going to open?

Posted by: Orson at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (dIske)

48 Sen. Shaheen tells 'Fox & Friends' why she broke with Schumer, Democratic colleagues. Went on Fox? Chose to serve a constituency other than her state. She should resign.

Time to lose voters again, can't risk progressive candidates winning! I honestly expect trump to try and deny snap benefits anyway. It isn't like he cares about laws.

The most frustrating thing is that Democratic voters will forget this and assume next time the party will “make the GOP” pay or do the right thing or whatever. This is exactly who the Dems have been since 2009.

They’re complicit with the GOP because the majority of Dems are center-right and are closer ideologically to conservatives than liberals. The majority of America does not vote for liberal candidates.

You’re never going to see real resistance to the republicans because most democrats (especially in the Senate) are just republican-lite

Everyone wanted the government to reopen, with some fucking protection for people dealing with skyrocketing health insurance. Instead we get capitulation to an abusive executive branch, no protections.

Not even a deal - a deal implies Republicans will keep their word.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (ycI94)

49 >>>This doesn't happen. The fired people are back in place, as of reopening. Maybe one or two people will stay fired - replaced or unfilled position - to provide a talking point.

this is my guess as well.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (1wjle)

50
It's been interesting watching a GOP Senate leader that isn't Turtle McConnell. Thune was raised on McConnells milk, so I have a feeling he's pulling Thunes strings from behind the scenes.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (IifOV)

51 My grandfather made his own beer in his basement during Prohibition.
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:22 PM

This is the Moron Way.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (bFu5X)

I want to get a decent still set up and get some practice in before face colander times.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (i24o9)

52 But the left is going berserk over how little the Democrats got
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But they always do that, every single time, even when they get the whole pie. "Waaah! We're not getting everything! Waaah!"
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2025 12:20 PM (WPL6O)

I guess it's a political loss for the D Party, but not one they care about, obviously, because the damn thing funds everything at Biden levels.

If you voted for a Democrat last week, I guess you feel betrayed, but that's the biggest part of your problem: You base your decisions on how you feel.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (dGCAG)

53 Both of my state's dems continued to vote no. The vamp Cantwell and Schumer's little shadow, Patti Murray.
To be expected.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (2WIwB)

54 ‘ 8 Dems vote YES
🔵 Durbin’

That disloyal bitch, Tammy Duckworth won’t even stand with her fellow senator Durbin.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (jbnUc)

55 The earlier DU Dispatch is strong evidence they lost.
Bigly.

According to them, they were holding a "royal flush" after their "epic" wins last Tuesday.

LOL.

Imagine trying to reason with that as your core base?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (HXT0k)

56 ... and grandstanding douchebag Rand Paul of course joining the Democrats to show how pure and virtuous he is.

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OUT: Aqua Buddha.
IN: Blue(balls) Dog(shit).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (mKobB)

57 Ace, it sounds like you need to decompress on Sundays by reading the Pet Thread.

Thank you for all you do here.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (gv5qH)

58 The weekend was kind of unsatisfying. Had a day off and it seemed to disappear.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (bss/y)

59 I don’t consider funding SNAP and restoring fired Federal workers (with full back-pay!) for three months to be winning, honestly. But the Congressional GOP is spineless and was never going to end the filibuster, leaving it for the Dems to do in 2027 or 2029.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:25 PM (l3YAf)

I thought it was up to September 2026. Military pay for certain.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (EYmYM)

60 Ace,

Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, then you haven't got anything.

Posted by: Tyrone Rugen at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (PiwSw)

61 >> I honestly expect trump to try and deny snap benefits anyway.

These people truly inhabit a parallel reality where the GOP is so much better than the one we have.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:28 PM (l3YAf)

62 Willowed:

Tulsi Gabbard, grabbing the third rail: “Barack Hussein Obama ordered the overthrow of the United States government — on behalf of Hillary Clinton — after the 2016 election.”
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That's a quite blunt and quite accurate summation. I really like how succinct it is.
Posted by: Crusader

If you were ever wondering how they could say Trump was trying to overthrow the government with J6 when he was (still) The Government... Now you know Projection ain't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2025 12:28 PM (/lPRQ)

63 >> Apparently John Cornyn wasn't present for the vote for a while and had to fly to DC to finally cast the 60th vote.

Wesley Hunt, who is a good man and looking to replace Cornyn was savaging him on X.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2025 12:28 PM (FhIe3)

64 Proposed Government Funding Bill To End The Government Shutdown:
🔴 Promise to vote on ACA subsidies in December

Republicans: We vote no.
We promised we'd vote. We never said you'd like it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2025 12:28 PM (kMqUr)

65 Cornyn was probably out pretending to be conservative and raising money for his campaign next year.
Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:17 PM (98kQX)

Without a doubt.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:28 PM (wVcYX)

66 The earlier DU Dispatch is strong evidence they lost.
Bigly.

According to them, they were holding a "royal flush" after their "epic" wins last Tuesday.

LOL.

Imagine trying to reason with that as your core base?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:27 PM (HXT0k)

So we can step back from the ledge and stop playing who's a bigger nazi?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (i24o9)

67 Yo Ace!
Weekend was good. Yesterday was a church dessert auction and I porked out of raspberry cheese cake. OMG!!! So good!
Sorry yours was not so good.
Posted by: Diogenes

Have you found coffee yet?

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (77rzZ)

68 Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:24 PM (77rzZ

In what way?

There was a song which Elvis sang called "Memories". The people all laughed when I said "We will now have a song which had been sung by Elvis" because the guy was such an Elvis fan that he had a sign on his garage saying "Parking for Elvis fans only."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (iOWAS)

69 Wesley Hunt, who is a good man and looking to replace Cornyn was savaging him on X.
Posted by: Marcus T

I'm slowly warming to him.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (kMqUr)

70 As I said in the previous thread, I don't think Schumer ever wanted the shutdown. He knew it was a loser, but if he hadn't agreed to it, he'd have been tossed by the loons. This way he has a fighting chance.

Cornyn was probably out pretending to be conservative and raising money for his campaign next year.

Of course that's what he was doing. Like the Albanian kidnapper, it won't save him.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

71
Now the House and Senate should actually pass a budget so the dems can stop playing Kabuki theater every 3 months.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (IifOV)

72 Yesterday morning, I was astonished to see the desert sky (I can see for 50 miles) filled with aircraft, contrails criss-crossing all over the place, high flyers, and some jet fighters flying in close formation. Really dramatic uptick! I thought “I betcha the gubbmint shutdown is over”. (Nah, that sounds like conspiracy theory!) Hm….

Posted by: Common Tater at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (rFLpo)

73 I could've sworn many morons around here were screaming about the Republicans caving last week.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 10, 2025 12:23 PM (Vh9CX)

On any given day you can find people in the comments screaming about something that isn't true.

It is what it is.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (ExV1e)

74 Tulsi Gabbard, grabbing the third rail: “Barack Hussein Obama ordered the overthrow of the United States government — on behalf of Hillary Clinton — after the 2016 election.”
--
That's a quite blunt and quite accurate summation. I really like how succinct it is.
Posted by: Crusader

I hate her 2A instincts, but under Trump, she is really growing on me.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (i24o9)

75 It's baked in to the "revolutionary" mindset, or worldview, or whatever you want to call it.

Nothing is good. Nothing is nice. Nothing is enough. Everything, everywhere, always, is unacceptable and requires Change.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:30 PM (JwNbV)

76 7 I'm upset about the mass layoffs being reversed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 10, 2025 12:18 PM (xcxpd)

211,000+ left and/or were RIFed before Oct 1.
4,000 were RIFed after Oct 1

One is massive and untouched; one is not.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:30 PM (tOcjL)

77 Time to lose voters again, can't risk progressive candidates winning! I honestly expect trump to try and deny snap benefits anyway. It isn't like he cares about laws. ...
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 10, 2025 12:26 PM (ycI94)
++++
LOLWUT? When has Trump ever threatened SNAP?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (zxP/x)

78 >>>Ace,

>>>Get some rest.

Oh, and not to rub it in too much, I was able to sleep in until 10:30 Sunday morning.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (i24o9)

79 Tom Tillis (who still plagues us as he's not out of the Senate yet).
-------

I feel as though I should apologize on behalf of The Old North State...but Tillis is a consequence of the locusts invading here...and they are not from the South.

Last election, less than half of the voters were NC natives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (XeU6L)

80 No one on the democrat list is up for re-election in 2026. They all have at least two years to let their stupid voters forget.

Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (98kQX)

81 " As far as Veterans Affairs -- I dunno, Democrats don't really care about veterans."
>>

Man, was that apparent yesterday when the President administered the military oath to the new enlistees during the Commander's home game against Detroit. The crowd booed during the entire ceremony. Eff them. BTW, the Lions clobbered the Commanders harder than Daron Payne hit Amon Ra St. Brown with a cheap shot.

Posted by: mrp at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (rj6Yv)

82 Some concessions were made, which I guess you can object to on principle.

-------------

[Reprising my earlier comment:]

Thune should have given the Michael Corleone response (from Godfather II):

"Senator? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (mKobB)

83 >>>16 You seem to be losing a lot of sleep, ace. I'm sorry. Can you possibly get that checked out to why it is happening?

I think it's just happening because I have shifted my sleep schedule to a normal sleep schedule, trying to be asleep by 10 and up by 6 or 7. But I sometimes don't fall asleep until midnight, but then wake up at 5, so...

I think I just need to get the new schedule locked in.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (1wjle)

84 Two immediate thoughts on this:
One, the split within the dems may not be repairable and the old guard is on its way out.
Two, the GOP has learned that if they stand fast, they can win...in spite of the media. I hope they learned this.

Correct on both counts.

It's been interesting watching a GOP Senate leader that isn't Turtle McConnell. Thune was raised on McConnells milk, so I have a feeling he's pulling Thunes strings from behind the scenes.

Why on earth would he do what the Turtle wants now. MM has no power anymore. He is a spent force.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

85 Posted by: Diogenes

That sounds delicious. Cheesecake is my favorite desert. The store by me has a caramel one which is great.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (iOWAS)

86 Well if the ACA vote is a free-standing measure, which it had better be, then Trump can veto it if it passes. But the House presumably will not pass it, so moot question? So if any of that is accurate, it's a non-concession concession.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (U/Byj)

87
>>> and funding for food assistance through next fall. ***

They need to cut that out. No able bodied person should receive food assistance. We are an abundant nation and there are many ways to support one's self other than being paid to have babies or paid to sit in government housing, on a government sofa, eating SNAP Doritos, talking on an Obama phone while watching TV.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (QBs6H)

88 I could've sworn many morons around here were screaming about the Republicans caving last week.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

The longer the government stayed shut down, the more chances the republicans had to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2025 12:32 PM (kMqUr)

89 >>>This doesn't happen. The fired people are back in place, as of reopening.

Double Bonus -
Back pay and funemployment !

Most sat on their asses in Fort Living Room and get back pay.

Those 'essential' workers got to work the whole time.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2025 12:32 PM (/lPRQ)

90 The fed workers who need to be fired should be fired at the first available date Im sure most will expect it and wont do any work between now and then anyway. Maybe they should all be temporarily re-assigned to a "Learn to Code" position just to emphasize the point.

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:32 PM (lCppi)

91 Effing Yglesias.... that chick has bugged me for 2+ decades. HTF did he get some sort of sinecure as a policy wonk?

Posted by: nononeyouknowyouknow at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (Iwv3U)

92 In what way?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Because a lot of people turning up to pay tribute to an elderly veteran shows that a lot of Americans still have respect for the past and traditional values.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (77rzZ)

93 Sometimes convolescense is just what we need.

What kind of name is Yglesias? Is that Slavic?

Posted by: no one at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (W7XSX)

94 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

95 Democrats are about as rabid as Republicans when their party stabs them in the back. Maybe more so. They sure do love their political violence, don't they?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (NwnyJ)

96 the shutdown itself was only about ginning up anger for the blue-state off-year elections, when their snarling base was getting sleepy

and the shutdown ENDED bc congress critters and their families were getting pissed about the flight delays

time to head to Florida for the nomenklatura!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (emBoF)

97 The fed workers who need to be fired should be fired at the first available date Im sure most will expect it and wont do any work between now and then anyway. Maybe they should all be temporarily re-assigned to a "Learn to Code" position just to emphasize the point.
Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:32 PM (lCppi)

Trump is reviewing the tape of the Commanders game as we speak. 😀

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (EYmYM)

98 Nice summary ace. Thanks.

It must be the start of the week because I'm reading content.

I wonder how many government employees will abandon the Dems after this?

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (Sco7b)

99
Mine was a loss. I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.
Posted by: Ace

Didn't even get 30% of doodly?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (pkeXY)

100 There is an argument that SNAP should go back to what it was: a means to absorb excess agricultural production as a price support.

USDA buys the food and distributes it to poor people so we have something to do with it rather than burn it or suppress production.

There are a ton of flaws in that system, but it might be better than handing out debit cards.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (zxP/x)

101 Not even a deal - a deal implies Republicans will keep their word.

Like the Democrats did with Reagan on the topic of amnesty? Or is that (d)ifferent.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (jjoN6)

102 80 No one on the democrat list is up for re-election in 2026. They all have at least two years to let their stupid voters forget.

Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (98kQX)

That is why only one Senator from VA could join...both were dying to b/c every D politico in the entire state was howling to reopen the gov now...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (tOcjL)

103 Now the House and Senate should actually pass a budget so the dems can stop playing Kabuki theater every 3 months.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (IifOV)

One of those things Rand Paul suggested the last time they went through this was a return to 2019 level funding. Pre-Covid, in other words.

Leadership was unwilling to even consider such a thing, even though 2019 level funding is still a massive deficit level.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (dGCAG)

104
I want to get a decent still set up and get some practice in before face colander times.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

You can buy good ones from New Zealand.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (hUzUC)

105 When the RINO John Cornyn finally made it into work, he voted "Yes" to end debate.

Cornyn is already running ads for his reelection where he states he votes with Trump 99% of the time.

I want the guy that votes 100% with Trump, asshole.

FOAD. Find a new grift.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

106 I dont know if reinstating funding for snap is the same as prohibiting sweeping changes to the requirements for snap and prohibiting non legal residents from accessing it At a minimum the massive fraud needs to be rooted out

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (lCppi)

107 Matt Margolis is like the Super Fan of the same team you really like but you still wish he'd put a damn shirt on, wipe off that silly makeup, sit down, and stop hootin' and hollerin' and waving a big foam finger while you're just trying to watch the game....

In a doctor's office waiting room.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (JwNbV)

108 Have you found coffee yet?
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (77rzZ)

COFFEE STATUS:

[X] Found
[ ] Not found

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (2WIwB)

109 LOLWUT? When has Trump ever threatened SNAP?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (zxP/x)

It was in the speech where he ordered ICE to round up all brown people, regardless of citizenship, and declared that any woman wearing unnatural hair color and a septum piercing while being at least 150 pounds overweight could be r***d without consequence.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (ExV1e)

110 On any given day you can find people in the comments screaming about something that isn't true.

It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKED!!! IT WAS ALL FILMED IN A STUDIO!!!

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (77rzZ)

111 I saw Doodly Squat open for Damn Yankees at Nautica Stage in '90.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (mKobB)

112 Sigh...I see the Blackpilled Eeyores are out in full force.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (Riz8t)

113 But I thought all was lost? Briefly checked here last week and there was a DefCon 1 firestorm over the GOPe caving?

I see also that the myth lives on that Dems "won" the Gingrich shutdowns. Don't think so. Neither on the policy disputes, and certainly not electorally, as GOP did fine in next cycle. But even as the Trump era has finally vaporized some cherished foundational Beltway GOP/MSM myths strongly embraced by "conservatives", that one hangs on.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (U/Byj)

114 Why on earth would he do what the Turtle wants now. MM has no power anymore. He is a spent force.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM

The same powers that owned Mitch McConnell for so long didn't retire with him. Mitch has been grooming Thune to be his replacement for a long time. I think they are ideologically on the same team.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (IifOV)

115 Mine was a loss. I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.

Rookie numbers. Call me when that describes the overwhelming majority of your life.

Posted by: Life is a sentence, not a gift at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (TbWk/)

116 >>Cornyn is already running ads for his reelection where he states he votes with Trump 99% of the time.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM

He's one of my senators. I loathe that fucker.

Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (98kQX)

117 100 There is an argument that SNAP should go back to what it was: a means to absorb excess agricultural production as a price support.

USDA buys the food and distributes it to poor people so we have something to do with it rather than burn it or suppress production.

There are a ton of flaws in that system, but it might be better than handing out debit cards.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (zxP/x)

True...and it might be especially helpful now that we've gone back to tariffs...if soybean couldn't sell to China, soybean could be given out as a good protein source...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (tOcjL)

118 Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:33 PM (77rzZ)

I'm hope so, but a lot of the town is Democrat and they just loved him because he was the unofficial Mayor. It was rather interesting. There was a whole procession with police down to the cemetery . The hearse driver said he thought it was wonderful
That so much of the town walked down there . I love the town. It had so many houses from the 1800's.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (iOWAS)

119 What is an appropriate level of gloating over something like this?

Posted by: Weasel at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (G2REX)

120 Although there is nothing being added to the CR itself that can be called a concession to Democrats, Thune and the Republicans did make some minor promises about what they'll grant the Democrats in exchange for a cloture vote:

Treat the Dems like they treated Reagan when he caved to amnesty: Don't do ANYTHING you just promised.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

121

I would greatly enjoy seeing the democrats take their "support" of our troops and SHOVE IT until they CHOKE on it. In fact, I'd enjoy being the one doing the shoving. You listening, Kerry et al?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (vFbHf)

122 "On the other hand, the Democrats were sabotaging the economy to try to win the 2026 midterms and set the stage for a 2028 win so... pick your poison."

Now they have a clear path.

AND if their shutdown strongly influenced elections in states such as NJ - with >80 % Asian & >50% Hispanic/Latino voting for Mikey, what's the lose for them?

Extend the C19 subsidies & Rs are toast.

Posted by: L - No nic .. at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (7NM34)

123 But I thought all was lost? Briefly checked here last week and there was a DefCon 1 firestorm over the GOPe caving?

You can identify them because none of them have any hair - just scar tissue on their domes.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (Riz8t)

124 Hi ace, I helped my niece rebuild her chicken run.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (rbvCR)

125 Wesley Hunt, who is a good man and looking to replace Cornyn was savaging him on X.
Posted by: Marcus T

I'm slowly warming to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2025 12:29 PM (kMqUr)

I'm staying cynical on him, for now. Perhaps it's an adverse reaction carryover from having One-Eyed McCain go rogue after his initial campaign speeches. Hunt feels just a bit too good to be true. He's my Congress Critter.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (wVcYX)

126 You can buy good ones from New Zealand.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 12:34 PM (hUzUC)

Surprisingly, you can get kits on Amazon, but then I'd suspect you'd end up on another list.

I am wavering between that or getting a TIG welder, learning to SS weld (also a face colander skill) and building my own to stay off the list.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (i24o9)

127 No one on the democrat list is up for re-election in 2026. They all have at least two years to let their stupid voters forget.
Posted by: huerfano at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (98kQX)

And Durbin's retiring.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (dGCAG)

128 It was in the speech where he ordered ICE to round up all brown people, regardless of citizenship, and declared that any woman wearing unnatural hair color and a septum piercing while being at least 150 pounds overweight could be r***d without consequence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I'm pretty sure he also announced his trans genocide plan, too.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (ycI94)

129 "I want to get a decent still set up and get some practice in before face colander times."

You can buy them on Amazon.

Posted by: no one at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (W7XSX)

130 As much as we shouldn't be celebrating a CR that kicks the can down the road until January 31st so they can do it all over again, I guess it's something.

------------------

40 MM people can now buy coke again. Yeah

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (sX1BW)

131 The same powers that owned Mitch McConnell for so long didn't retire with him. Mitch has been grooming Thune to be his replacement for a long time. I think they are ideologically on the same team.

And yet, he did exactly what we wanted him to do, which MM would never have done.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

132 Sigh...I see the Blackpilled Eeyores are out in full force.

I prefer the original Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (iOWAS)

133 Mine was a loss. I got very little sleep both nights and just vegged and did nothing productive nor fun for 48 hours.

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM

You posted on Saturday, ace! That is something

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (xT8gx)

134 I’ll vote for Wesley Hunt though I’m not thrilled with any of my choices.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (EYmYM)

135 109 LOLWUT? When has Trump ever threatened SNAP?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:31 PM (zxP/x)

It was in the speech where he ordered ICE to round up all brown people, regardless of citizenship, and declared that any woman wearing unnatural hair color and a septum piercing while being at least 150 pounds overweight could be r***d without consequence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:35 PM (ExV1e)

I would have been ok with rounding up and deporting all women wearing unnatural hair color and a septum piercing while being at least 150 pounds overweight regardless of citizenship. Lost me on the rest though.

Posted by: A clear and present danger at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM (TbWk/)

136 Past 100, so, for the Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps. Bon appetite!
https://tinyurl.com/3yk4s2yk

Posted by: tankdemon at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (1dKwP)

137 Yay! I guess.

Posted by: Eromero at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (uIalB)

138 >>>124 Hi ace, I helped my niece rebuild her chicken run.

nice. Accomplishing something is a joy.

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (1wjle)

139 >>>Democrats would need 51 votes to get these "temporary emergency covid subsidies" extended.
So I do think that's a concession. I do think that is a very real chit we gave the Democrats.

It would also have to go to the House, where it might not even get a vote. Plus Trump would have to sign. In the end, I don't think it will happen.

The only thing the Dems will get is a face-saving vote in the Senate that lets them posture.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (8mulE)

140 Fuckin' two people have an opinion and say it more than once and it gets enshrined as "EVERYONE HERE". How Scoggian.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (JwNbV)

141 I prefer the original Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The Eeyore in the original stories is funny in a black-comedy kind of way.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)

142 I wish there was a way for SNAP benefits to be tied directly to citizenship. Drying up of all the freebies and the self deporting will be easier than ICE having to drag them out.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:40 PM (IifOV)

143 The longer the government stayed shut down, the more chances the republicans had to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2025 12:32 PM (kMqUr)

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It was more than that. It was a press report that the Repubs in the Senate were going to give the Dems everything they wanted.

Seems like everyone here took it hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 10, 2025 12:40 PM (Vh9CX)

144 >>You posted on Saturday, ace! That is something

that's because I was wasting the day with the TV on pecking on the computer in bed so it was like, "why not, what else am I doing, nothing that's what"

Posted by: ace at November 10, 2025 12:40 PM (1wjle)

145 Fuckin' two people have an opinion and say it more than once and it gets enshrined as "EVERYONE HERE". How Scoggian.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (JwNbV)

God forbid you might have to read words you disagree with, huh?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (i24o9)

146 Just ate the last banana. What do I do now?

Posted by: Monkey Man at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (oftw2)

147 I spent Saturday as chef for a charity dinner. I am so sore. Convalescing today.

Posted by: no one at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (W7XSX)

148 Afternoon Ace.The Republicans holding together have pushed the Dems to the point of civil war in their party. Schumer may not survive as leader with the house radicals and few Dem senators rebelling. The older Dems will stick with Chuckie but how much power do they have left?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (bfwj/)

149 And yet, he did exactly what we wanted him to do, which MM would never have done.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:38 PM

Which is why I said it was interesting to watch a GOP Senate leader that wasn't Mitch during this. I thought he was going to be a Mini Mitch. He wasn't.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (IifOV)

150 Simply have requirement you have to be a citizen to receive SNAP. It’s not hard . Enforcement/Fraud is the hard part.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (EYmYM)

151 To quote Reagan - "we win, they lose."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (dxtDq)

152 Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:39 PM (JwNbV)

I like that "Scoggian". It sounds like some type of Math or Science problem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (iOWAS)

153 I went to a gathering on Saturday. I made the most mac n' cheese I'd ever made in my life. Doctored it up a bit and others thought it was pretty good, so there was that.

Had a great time and didn't get home till 2AM.

Sunday was a lazy, do nothing day. Watched the FiL watch game shows most of the day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (Zz0t1)

154 >> I wish there was a way for SNAP benefits to be tied directly to citizenship.

Nope, not possible.

Posted by: Congressional GOP at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (l3YAf)

155 Markets are happy about the openingup.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (1Nv0l)

156
🔴 Reverse the mass layoffs of federal workers

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I was assured and promised that Russ "Darth" Voughter was literally salivating and chomping at the bit to lay off a couple million "non-essential" Feral Gubmint employees immediately following the initiation of a Democrat-Communist-caused "shutdown" -- which frankly should have happened on Day One of Trump 2.0 (I am disappoint).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (0BpYX)

157 It was more than that. It was a press report that the Repubs in the Senate were going to give the Dems everything they wanted.

Seems like everyone here took it hook, line and sinker.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 10, 2025 12:40 PM (Vh9CX)

Decades of watching republicans operate will do that to you.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (KbCG3)

158 Which is why I said it was interesting to watch a GOP Senate leader that wasn't Mitch during this. I thought he was going to be a Mini Mitch. He wasn't.

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In fairness, he is operating in a different political environment than Mitch.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (sX1BW)

159 Posted by: no one at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (W7XSX)

That's great! What did you make?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (iOWAS)

160 I'm staying cynical on him, for now. Perhaps it's an adverse reaction carryover from having One-Eyed McCain go rogue after his initial campaign speeches. Hunt feels just a bit too good to be true. He's my Congress Critter.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (wVcYX)

I am super skeptical of Hunt, but im not sure why. Maybe also disappointment in McCain, Dan Crenshaw, Gen. whats his face from Austin who turned on Trump, and the rest of the high ranking military politicians.

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (lCppi)

161 There is an argument that SNAP should go back to what it was: a means to absorb excess agricultural production as a price support.

USDA buys the food and distributes it to poor people so we have something to do with it rather than burn it or suppress production.
---
What was it called "Commodities Day" or something like that?
The place in my hometown would put out a banner, let you know you can come in and get your blocks of cheese, powdered milk and whatnot.

Only as an adult, did I learn why my mom didn't respond when I pointed out the sign was up and we should stop to get our share ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (HXT0k)

162 Didn't Ace say on Friday that he was going to go out and party in a red leather jumpsuit? Did that not happen?

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (77rzZ)

163 119 What is an appropriate level of gloating over something like this?
Posted by: Weasel at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM (G2REX)

Mild to moderate. Save the severe to extreme for the really big in-your-face slam dunks.

Posted by: Just my take on it at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (TbWk/)

164 I like that "Scoggian". It sounds like some type of Math or Science problem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (iOWAS)

My favorite math word is "Wronskian". So there's that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (JwNbV)

165 The older Dems will stick with Chuckie but how much power do they have left?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 10, 2025 12:41 PM (bfwj/)

The answer to that is simple: Follow the money. The BIG money.

Posted by: mrp at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)

166 I had a great weekend thanks for asking! lovely weather and lots of fun stuff

there was a half marathon so there is some tiredness today

there might have been not really much prep for it lol. fortunately just mostly stiff, no agonizing pain or anything

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (emBoF)

167 Did Rs win the shutdown - nationally, yes. What they lost in the recent elections, they will likely win in next year's term.

Did Rs give anything they wouldn't have given anyway - no. And they got tradeoffs they wanted, which never happens - like SNAP for Vets and Military Construction...the latter being an area that could pay the troops if we see another shutdown come February.

Which Senator made the deal and got his 30 pieces of silver - Kaine. He got everything he wanted for his state, and he was the last needed vote. Maybe if Rand would have voted differently, some of the fed stuff might have been different, but it was also always the stuff Trump was willing to talk big and give away...it was the "cheapest, easiest and least politically damaging for him" (b/c he only made the deal with Kaine to not fire them through January).

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (tOcjL)

168 If you're capable of boiling water, you can make pretty darn good beer.

Bottling it and having it last for a while is a bit more of a chore but beer is dead nuts simple to brew.

Posted by: ballistic at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (5aZAZ)

169 McRaven

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (lCppi)

170 Matt Yglesias talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)

171 What is an appropriate level of gloating over something like this?
Posted by: Weasel at November 10, 2025 12:37 PM

We'd have to start at 11, and adjust from there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (bFu5X)

172 I made the most mac n' cheese I'd ever made in my life. Doctored it up a bit and others thought it was pretty good, so there was that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (Zz0t1)

Nice. What roughly were the ingredients? I always appreciate a well-made and apportioned mac n' cheese.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (i24o9)

173 Matt Yglesias talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
Zero Pinocchios.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (zxP/x)

174 COFFEE STATUS:

[X] Found
[ ] Not found
Posted by: Diogenes
------

I'm still contemplating CBD's 18 oz. coffee mug.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (XeU6L)

175 If you're capable of boiling water, you can make pretty darn good beer.

Bottling it and having it last for a while is a bit more of a chore but beer is dead nuts simple to brew.
Posted by: ballistic at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM

That's why it's fun. Makes the house smell great, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (bFu5X)

176 Only as an adult, did I learn why my mom didn't respond when I pointed out the sign was up and we should stop to get our share ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (HXT0k)

Cuz gov’t cheese sucks?

Seriously, it even smells revolting, like spoiled milk.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (l3YAf)

177 am happy the dumb shutdown seems to be over

it must have been actually harming the Dems otherwise they'd have kept going

they don't care about hurting people.

and no I don't think this will happen again Feb 1

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (emBoF)

178 I can’t believe that “emergency covid” anything is still in existence… it’s pathetic. I was a fake emergency in 2020-21 and those funds will never die apparently. Frustrating

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (xT8gx)

179 I just want to get the military paid and get credit for it.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (EYmYM)

180 >> I wish there was a way for SNAP benefits to be tied directly to citizenship.

Nope, not possible.
Posted by: Congressional GOP

True.

If they are undocumented how could anyone prove they are not citizens?!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (/lPRQ)

181 The seeds of victory germinate in every defeat. The seeds of defeat germinate in every victory.

Or as a really, really old song goes "You can't always get what you want..."

Posted by: no one at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (W7XSX)

182 Also, carried over from the last thread, I don't watch ANY series on TV, and I haven't for probably 5+ years? I think the last series my wife and I were big into was Deadliest Catch but that joint kinda jumped the shark some time ago. 24 was good but that was decades ago lol.

I admit to watching sportsball and auto racing though.

Posted by: ballistic at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (5aZAZ)

183 Past 100, so, for the Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps. Bon appetite!

Posted by: tankdemon

Tell me you are missing all your crayons without saying you're missing your crayons.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (hUzUC)

184 I know all of you are getting ready for Thanksgiving. Canadian Thanksgiving was October 13th.

But Wednesday I'm celebrating Christmas in Novemebr with my friends. Fourth or fifth year. The kids like to decorate the Christmas tree so it evolved.

The menu has been set. My friends are bringing roast beef and mashed potatoes. I'm going to try to find pumpkin pie and may buy pizza if the kids want that. And I'll be wrapping the gifts later today or tomorrow.

I guess I'll be giving thanks a day early.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (Sco7b)

185 Simply have requirement you have to be a citizen to receive SNAP. It’s not hard . Enforcement/Fraud is the hard part.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (EYmYM)

-------------

The ~~Force~~ Grift is strong in that one ...

... Follow The Blood Money.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (0BpYX)

186 I'm surprised that Durbin of Illinois voted for closure. He's the senate minority whip, and one of the most ideologically extreme of the Democratic senators. On the other hand, he's not running for re-election, so maybe he's taking one for the team. Hard to say; but still, surprising.

Posted by: Nemo at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (4RPgu)

187 Rico the whole party.

They all make money the way hunter use to.

Posted by: thug dolphin at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (EyfuW)

188 My favorite math word is "Wronskian". So there's that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (JwNbV)

If liking that word is Wronskian, I don't wanna be Rightskian.

Posted by: old joke, i know at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (TbWk/)

189 I think the reason Democrats caved is because Trump started hammering the idea of killing the filibuster. That would be an extinction level event for Democrats on the national level and they know it.

That arrow remains in the quiver and Trump has now made it an acceptable item for debate.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (viF8m)

190 178 I can’t believe that “emergency covid” anything is still in existence… it’s pathetic. I was a fake emergency in 2020-21 and those funds will never die apparently. Frustrating

yeah tell me about it

Posted by: The Johnstown Flood at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (emBoF)

191 The same powers that owned Mitch McConnell for so long didn't retire with him. Mitch has been grooming Thune to be his replacement for a long time. I think they are ideologically on the same team.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 10, 2025 12:36 PM (IifOV)

The main goal is that things continue on as they did before, a lot of politics for entrenched groups revolves around that. The cost in blood, treasure, and shattered and useless lives is nothing next to the value of keeping things the same. And this is true for both sides.
And the people with the scent of that power in their noses will destroy, deplatform or silence anyone who threatens their continuing access. Ideology has nothing to do with it.

see also, "what happened to the Tea Party"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM (rbvCR)

192 47 Hey....wait a minute....if this was a Republican Shut Down, why are the Democrats so pissed that 8 of their side voted to open the government...and, ultimately, it's going to open?
Posted by: Orson
---

No logic, no logic here; Go to the back of the line. Go on go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM (QBs6H)

193 > How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

Tried roasting a goose, as a test run for an alternative protein at thanksgiving.

Don't recommend it. Chewy, blander version of duck.

If a common bird is not commonly eaten, there's probably a reason.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM (1Nv0l)

194 >>How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

Since my wife passed into the yondersphere, grooming the dogs has fallen to me.

I got their ears cleaned on Saturday. Sunday, I tried to Dremel their nails. They hate that and my wife fought constantly with them to get it done.

Screw that.

This afternoon, it's off the the groomer. Twenty-bucks per dog. I'd gladly pay double.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (Y1sOo)

195 177 am happy the dumb shutdown seems to be over

it must have been actually harming the Dems otherwise they'd have kept going

they don't care about hurting people.

and no I don't think this will happen again Feb 1

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (emBoF)

With the way Dems are, I bet nothing right now...but certain parts of Fed now will not shut down - VA, Mil Con, FDA, etc, b/c they are getting full year deals. So, at most, it would be a "partial shutdown"...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (tOcjL)

196 Posted by: Nemo at November 10, 2025 12:46 PM (4RPgu)

Read what he had to say after his vote. Him Schumer and Pelosi have a special place in hell waiting for them.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (EYmYM)

197 Impression there was quite an over-sell on Vought/OMB/RIFs etc. Marketing was that there was a long-crafted master plan for major changes during the window of opportunity offered by the shutdown. Didn't appear to happen, unless I missed it.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (U/Byj)

198 Somehow no one on the left will connect "everyone supports extending health care subsidies for poor people" to "the Senate Dems folded on the shutdown"

So, that deep well of support translated into 8 Dems voting to agree to have a vote on it sometime in the future?

That's quite a royal flush ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (HXT0k)

199 I stayed off my phone for the most part but everyone was losing their minds about that idea Pulte floated of getting banks to underwrite 50 year loans ... I don't love the idea but people were going a bit overboard there.

anyway the response worked as intended bc he just walked it back on X.

so, I mean that's good right? they are responsive.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (emBoF)

200 My favorite math word is "Wronskian". So there's that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (JwNbV)

Ah… I almost forgot that word from college. The determinant of a matrix formed from functions and their derivatives…. Oops! I just violated the “no maths” rule….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (xT8gx)

201 This is my guess: Democrats want SNAP and Veterans Affairs funded now for a full year so if they shut the government down again, they will not have to worry about their EBT army shrieking about "starving."

--------------

This is a trap for triggering another similar shutdown next year leading into the 2026 midterm elections:

"RETHUGLICANS ARE STARVING BABIES AND GRANDMAS -- REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (0BpYX)

202 Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (Y1sOo)

Sorry for your loss. RIP Mrs. Sober.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (77rzZ)

203 I made the most mac n' cheese I'd ever made in my life. Doctored it up a bit and others thought it was pretty good, so there was that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:42 PM (Zz0t1)

Nice. What roughly were the ingredients? I always appreciate a well-made and apportioned mac n' cheese.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (i24o9)

Roughly -
50% mac
50% cheese

Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (QMAsf)

204 The Gop needs to let the Dems shut down the government again in January if they will not agree on a budget or CR that keeps the government open until Nov 10th of next year.

Or the Dems will just run this same playbook again right before the midterms.

Posted by: Candidus at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (Stg0c)

205
Nice. What roughly were the ingredients? I always appreciate a well-made and apportioned mac n' cheese.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 12:44 PM (i24o9)

Well, I started with Velveeta shells n' cheese, made all the pasta, then put all the cheese pack contents into a pot and heated it. I added some cumin and smoked paprika and mixed it to taste. The sheer quantity (12 boxes) flustered me a bit and I forgot the bacon bits (real, not the shit that would've come with it had I got the bacon bit box). There was also cheese everywhere when I attempted to combine the two in a pan to carry to the party.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

206 Don't Covid era subsidies also have to get through the Republican house? And can't Trump also veto them (although we know he won't)

I think Republicans completely won the shutdown, but the problem was those elections (in blue states) I think rattled Trump and the GOP a bit. They shouldn't have won by those margins, I just dont think he shutdown had anything to do with it. I think Trump voters are just not engaged politically.

Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (eIzlH)

207 193 > How is y'all? Did you have a good weekend?

Tried roasting a goose, as a test run for an alternative protein at thanksgiving.

Don't recommend it. Chewy, blander version of duck.

If a common bird is not commonly eaten, there's probably a reason.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM (1Nv0l)

I think goose is (or was) much more popular in England. Like duck it's very greasy. Don't care much for it.

Posted by: It's like penguin without the fishy aftertaste at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (TbWk/)

208 Tried roasting a goose, as a test run for an alternative protein at thanksgiving.

Don't recommend it. Chewy, blander version of duck.

If a common bird is not commonly eaten, there's probably a reason.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM

How did you do yours? Last one I made turned out great.

And costing $100+/bird is possibly why a lot of people don't eat goose commonly.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (bFu5X)

209 >>I'm surprised that Durbin of Illinois voted for closure. He's the senate minority whip, and one of the most ideologically extreme of the Democratic senators. On the other hand, he's not running for re-election, so maybe he's taking one for the team. Hard to say; but still, surprising.

Once you accept that its all theater it becomes easier to understand.

They knew their little production was coming to and end and it was starting to blowback on them. The only way out was to cave. So they looked at which Senators had the least to lose and they were assigned to vote yes.

Both Durbin and Shaheen are retiring. Both flipped. The others are in reasonably safe areas or their election is years down the road. There's a reason they got the exact number of Democrat yes votes they needed and it wasn't a coincidence.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (viF8m)

210 Doesn't the Style Guide suggest "diddy squat" rather than "doody squat"?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (SfDwn)

211 Roughly -
50% mac
50% cheese
Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (QMAsf)

Wife picked up some gouda slices...smoked with truffle added.

I want to make mac n cheese with that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

212 What was it called "Commodities Day" or something like that?
The place in my hometown would put out a banner, let you know you can come in and get your blocks of cheese, powdered milk and whatnot.

Only as an adult, did I learn why my mom didn't respond when I pointed out the sign was up and we should stop to get our share ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:43 PM (HXT0k)

I remember the first time I heard of "government cheese." I thought it was strange people had to line up to get free cheese.

These days they get cards that look the same when you go to the store, so you not only don't have to get in line, you don't even have to call any attention to yourself, that you are relying on taxpayers to feed you.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (dGCAG)

213 If you're capable of boiling water, you can make pretty darn good beer.

Bottling it and having it last for a while is a bit more of a chore but beer is dead nuts simple to brew.
Posted by: ballistic

Easiest when starting with a No 10 can of Pabst Blue Ribbon malt syrup.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (/lPRQ)

214 I think Republicans completely won the shutdown, but the problem was those elections (in blue states) I think rattled Trump and the GOP a bit. They shouldn't have won by those margins, I just dont think he shutdown had anything to do with it. I think Trump voters are just not engaged politically.

there was also significant cheating (at least in NJ)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (emBoF)

215 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (zxP/x)

216
If they are undocumented how could anyone prove they are not citizens?!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

==

How do you even sue for "not" getting benefits if you're here illegally? And isn't it a form of criminal fraud?

I know these statutes are almost never enforced, but as far as I know, it's against federal law to get most all taxpayer benefits if you're here illegally.

Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (eIzlH)

217 Aces new big politician Sydney sweeny absolutely bombs at the BJ ox office. Racking in 1.3 million at 2000 theaters.
A whopping 650 dollars per theater.
No one likes her

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (CUIEY)

218 "RETHUGLICANS ARE STARVING BABIES AND GRANDMAS -- REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 12:49 PM (0BpYX)

Democrats are aborting babies and euthanizing grandmas. And sexually grooming children. Oddly that doesn't evoke any REEEEEEEEs.

Posted by: Evil walks among us at November 10, 2025 12:53 PM (TbWk/)

219 Both Durbin and Shaheen are retiring. Both flipped. The others are in reasonably safe areas or their election is years down the road. There's a reason they got the exact number of Democrat yes votes they needed and it wasn't a coincidence.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (viF8m)

Funny enough, in Rand's and Cornyn's defense, they promised 10-12. They only turned up with 8. So, originally, there wasn't supposed to be a need for the flight back. Not sure who backed out, but when the progressives flipped on the deal news before the actual vote, I guess fewer Ds were willing to stick their head out...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:53 PM (tOcjL)

220 I got their ears cleaned on Saturday. Sunday, I tried to Dremel their nails. They hate that and my wife fought constantly with them to get it done.

Screw that.

This afternoon, it's off the the groomer. Twenty-bucks per dog. I'd gladly pay double.
Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (Y1sOo)

Fyi a lot of vetranarians have a yearly 'insurance' program that gives a bunch of discounts and also includes unlimited $5 nail trims .

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:53 PM (lCppi)

221 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM

Homo.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:53 PM (bFu5X)

222 Bo Doodly is a gunslinger.

Posted by: Bo Doodly at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (PiwSw)

223 Thanks, bulg.

I also cooked my first real meal Saturday evening. I don't know how to cook other than to open a can of soup or throw spaghetti into boiling water, periodically throwing a piece at the fridge to see if it's ready.

Deep fried chicken drumettes with Hooter's coating and Hooters hot sauce. The turned out great. Will make again.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (Y1sOo)

224 It should be noted that the Dems message on the shutdown was the ol' tried and true of the last decades.

The rhetoric and accusations of perfidy to America that has always cowed the Rs.

I noted that it's like they were stuck in the amber of 2009, with their speeches: Obama is King Cool and everyone is a Dem and the working class still votes D.

Look at how flat it fell. That's as big a development as the R's winning.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (HXT0k)

225 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

What the hell is up with that top?

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (77rzZ)

226 Tried roasting a goose, as a test run for an alternative protein at thanksgiving.

Don't recommend it. Chewy, blander version of duck.

If a common bird is not commonly eaten, there's probably a reason.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:47 PM

How did you do yours? Last one I made turned out great.

And costing $100+/bird is possibly why a lot of people don't eat goose commonly.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (bFu5X)

That's crazy! They're free for the plucking right over at the pond!

Posted by: Haitian "Immigrants" at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (wVcYX)

227
And costing $100+/bird is possibly why a lot of people don't eat goose commonly.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (bFu5X)

You can't just get yours at the local park too?

Posted by: Haitian Illegals at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

228 What the hell is up with that top?
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (77rzZ)
++++
I think it falls into the vast category of "stupid, but she thinks it's cute."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (zxP/x)

229 They shouldn't have won by those margins, I just dont think he shutdown had anything to do with it. I think Trump voters are just not engaged politically.
Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (eIzlH)

Agreed, there's usually an "enthusiasm gap" in off year elections, where the party in power takes a hit, but I think there's something more going on, where the Gopes need to be paying closer attention to it, or next year could be a lot worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (dGCAG)

230 Wife picked up some gouda slices...smoked with truffle added.

I want to make mac n cheese with that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

Sounds yummy. Throw some chopped brisket on it!

Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (QMAsf)

231
What the hell is up with that top?
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (77rzZ)

You mean, other than the fact it's not off?

Posted by: Haitian Illegals at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

232 208 Tried roasting a goose, as a test run for an alternative protein at thanksgiving.

You could go Scrooge and give everyone Whey protein shakes...

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (Sco7b)

233 Shoot.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

234 >> These days they get cards that look the same when you go to the store, so you not only don't have to get in line, you don't even have to call any attention to yourself, that you are relying on taxpayers to feed you.

They call attention to themselves, anyway. If the cart is full of name-brand soda, snacks and lobster tail, you know they’re paying with EBT.

In my very red rural area, we’ve had a flood of foreigners in the last few years. You used to never see any hispanics, and now there are entire families, speaking only Spanish, trying to figure out how to pay with their taxpayer-funded cards.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (l3YAf)

235 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (CUIEY)

The movie is about a Lefty lesbian boxer. Do the math retard.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (EYmYM)

236 The covid subsidy part of ACA was really a joke, I think what dems were hoping for is to confuse voters because ACA rates across the country are spiking in a big way, and it has little to do with the Covid sweetener that they were demanding.

Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:56 PM (eIzlH)

237 Cuz gov’t cheese sucks?

Seriously, it even smells revolting, like spoiled milk.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (l3YAf)

In fairness, cheese is spoiled milk so it's kind of truth in advertising.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)

238 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (CUIEY)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 10, 2025 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

239 215 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (zxP/x)

As a leg man I will be in my bunk until further notice. Good Lawd almighty.

Posted by: Great googly moogly at November 10, 2025 12:56 PM (TbWk/)

240 And costing $100+/bird is possibly why a lot of people don't eat goose commonly.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I feel like that's a chicken-and-egg issue though (pun intended). They're expensive because only specialist growers produce them.

I didn't know it was $100+ until my wife told me. She was the one who did the cooking. Marinated it for a couple of days. Then roasted stuffed with limes and oranges.

We could probably improve with a few more iterations, but at that price, not worth it. I'd rather eat duck.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:56 PM (1Nv0l)

241 They should have not only gotten nothing in return but had to pay dearly for doing what they did. But that sort of ruthlessness is politically impossible from the likes of Thune.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (WHfpM)

242 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001

A wee bit hippy for my tastes, but otherwise gorgeous.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Riz8t)

243 I loved mac 'n' cheese so much as a kid that one year I got a box of the Kraft stuff as a Christmas gift.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (77rzZ)

244 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

245 Roughly -
50% mac
50% cheese
Posted by: Doof at November 10,

Well the cheese part can be questionable unless you start with a bechamel. If it says cheese product, read it as “it resembles cheese if you squint hard”.

Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.

Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

246 >>>see also, "what happened to the Tea Party"
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yes.
And Trump is going to spend everyday in office working to destroy them.
He raised good, strong children I hope he can do the same with Vance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (QBs6H)

247 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 12:52 PM (zxP/x)

Muscular lower legs. Interesting.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (wVcYX)

248 The troll needs this Sydney Sweeney political joke:

https://tinyurl.com/p3kkjfkb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (IEV/x)

249 On the 'rehire'... the Congress has NO authority at all on who the Executive Branch hires UNLESS they are cabinet type positions that meet the 'advice and consent' threshold.

I don't believe they can even set hiring thresholds... unless they somehow can put every position and it's pay into a bill... which would then be heard by a court as that does then get into the realm of traditional powers of an Executive.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (mP0Kj)

250 Homo.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 10, 2025 12:53 PM (bFu5X)

Heh. I'm sure not going to any damn movie theater, but no one should interpret that as meaning I don't care for Ms. Sweeney's yum yum pillows.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (dGCAG)

251 this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001
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Slender but curvy. 👍

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (1Nv0l)

252 Sydney Sweeney is an actress?? I thought she was just a boob model who starred in memes dunking on scowling liberal scrunts!

Posted by: The More You Know at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (l3YAf)

253 Yeah, the gams on that dame are killers

Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (Y1sOo)

254 Agreed, there's usually an "enthusiasm gap" in off year elections, where the party in power takes a hit, but I think there's something more going on, where the Gopes need to be paying closer attention to it, or next year could be a lot worse.
Posted by: BurtTC

==

I think that "Joe Rogan" male voter is just not showing up when Trump isn't on the ballot.

Unfortunately the AWFL and wine moms are very good at showing up, red pilled males, not so much.

I havent done a deep dive into the election from a few weeks ago, but everything I'm seeing is dem turnout was high and GOP was low.

If the same amount of GOP voters had showed up, they would have won many of these.

Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (eIzlH)

255
Tulsi Gabbard, grabbing the third rail: “Barack Hussein Obama ordered the overthrow of the United States government — on behalf of Hillary Clinton — after the 2016 election.”
--
That's a quite blunt and quite accurate summation. I really like how succinct it is.
Posted by: Crusader

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (QBs6H)

256 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Apple cobbler? Like peach cobbler but with apples….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

257 Muscular lower legs. Interesting.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (wVcYX)

Hope that’s musculature legs.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (EYmYM)

258 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Baked cinnamon apples

Southern apple cobbler (dump cake style)

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (wVcYX)

259 244 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Jewish apple cake

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (tOcjL)

260 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

This is damn near child abuse. You probably make them eat kale-roll-ups, and give them chilled tofu sweetened with stevia or some shit and tell them it's ice cream.

Posted by: Your dog probably chose veganism too at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)

261 My weekend was fine.
No money for groceries, though, thanks to medical bills.
So it looks like I'm intermittent fasting whether I like it or not.

God will provide.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 10, 2025 01:00 PM (nBNUK)

262 Cuz gov’t cheese sucks?

Seriously, it even smells revolting, like spoiled milk.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 12:45 PM (l3YAf)

Well the peasants are revolting, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (dGCAG)

263 Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

Putting any sort of vegetables in mac 'n' cheese is just wrong. It should only be pasta, cheese, and some kind of meat.

I liked putting hot dogs or tuna in mine when I'd make it.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)

264 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Trick question. Deserts have no use for apples.

Posted by: Don't grow there either at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (TbWk/)

265 The one concern I have about a concession is that some sites say that the Democrats get to write the bill that gets voted on. Hence, it is likely that they will feature "poor widows and orphans" while in detail giving billions for health insurance companies, USAID, and the Green Scam and daring the Republicans to vote it down.

Hopefully Speaker Johnson won't even allow consideration of such a bill in the House.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (tLtz8)

266 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?

Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Apple Crisp .

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (EYmYM)

267 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

How do you maintain your Southern cred with all of that healthy stuff you cook with?

Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (QMAsf)

268 260 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

This is damn near child abuse. You probably make them eat kale-roll-ups, and give them chilled tofu sweetened with stevia or some shit and tell them it's ice cream.

Posted by: Your dog probably chose veganism too at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)

Nah, it's just all about advertising to the kids...you just don't call what Piper makes mac and cheese. You call it cheesy veg pasta. Tastes great with no mental reference to mac and cheese...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 01:02 PM (tOcjL)

269 I can assure you the VA is as bloated and subject to corruption/ infiltration by Marxists as any institution. So D can support it knowing full well the R will think they are being helpful while the D know they are supporting their corrupt infrastructure.

Posted by: epador at November 10, 2025 01:02 PM (z4prl)

270 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends ar

I just listened to brief interview with Miranda Devine who has written a book on Eric Trump. His mother was a very strong woman and she and Trump insisted that Eric go out and work on the Trump construction sites for minimum wage. He said that he felt good working with his hands but was exhausted by the end of the day. He said some of his friends who went to posh schools ended up in rehab because they had too much time on their hands. I think Trump and Ivanka were strong and good parents

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 01:02 PM (xY6Tn)

271 The troll needs this Sydney Sweeney political joke:

https://tinyurl.com/p3kkjfkb
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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Lol. Would have been even better without the third frame. Let libs try and figure it out.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 01:02 PM (1Nv0l)

272 Car bombing in New Delhi kills at least 10. Muslim? Radical Hindu?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (bfwj/)

273 Impression there was quite an over-sell on Vought/OMB/RIFs etc. Marketing was that there was a long-crafted master plan for major changes during the window of opportunity offered by the shutdown. Didn't appear to happen, unless I missed it.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 10, 2025 12:48 PM (U/Byj)

Oversell to the right or pressure tactic on the left. Overall, I suspect we got the better deal.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (i24o9)

274 Agreed, there's usually an "enthusiasm gap" in off year elections, where the party in power takes a hit, but I think there's something more going on, where the Gopes need to be paying closer attention to it, or next year could be a lot worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (dGCAG)

Imagine what would happen if the 2025 elections could be set up as a trigger to get the slightly engaged to be more interested in voting in an off year election. But that would require both a wicked smart marketer and a team of competent managers directing motivated workers on the ground.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (rbvCR)

275 >>>I didn't know it was $100+ until my wife told me. She was the one who did the cooking. Marinated it for a couple of days. Then roasted stuffed with limes and oranges.

We could probably improve with a few more iterations, but at that price, not worth it. I'd rather eat duck.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators
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Great gramps was raised on a dairy farm. Couldn't understand how a person could live or how dumb they had to be to not have some ducks or geese, a milk cow and a couple of rows veggies.
The kids went through the depression without much money but they ate well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (QBs6H)

276 I think that "Joe Rogan" male voter is just not showing up when Trump isn't on the ballot.

Unfortunately the AWFL and wine moms are very good at showing up, red pilled males, not so much.

I havent done a deep dive into the election from a few weeks ago, but everything I'm seeing is dem turnout was high and GOP was low.

If the same amount of GOP voters had showed up, they would have won many of these.
Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (eIzlH)

I guess that's a good description of them: Joe Rogan male voters. Or Charlie Kirk voters.

There are rumblings though, that they didn't show up, at least in part because they aren't happy with what the Gopes in DC are doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (dGCAG)

277 This is damn near child abuse. You probably make them eat kale-roll-ups, and give them chilled tofu sweetened with stevia or some shit and tell them it's ice cream.
Posted by: Your dog probably chose veganism too at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)

That stevia crap… Lydia’s obsession with it is what led to her demise when Walter White took advantage of her habit to sneak some ricin into her stevia… heh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (xT8gx)

278 I try to spice up mac n cheese, but my wife detests Velveeta and thinks anything other than the powder stuff makes it 'too cheesy'. Je désespère.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (CwhoI)

279 260 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

This is damn near child abuse. You probably make them eat kale-roll-ups, and give them chilled tofu sweetened with stevia or some shit and tell them it's ice cream.
Posted by: Your dog probably chose veganism too at November 10, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)

Mom? Is that you?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (sVOFR)

280 Señor ace

I can now to tidy the pleasure pit?

Posted by: Consuela at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (u+AWT)

281 I liked putting hot dogs or tuna in mine when I'd make it.
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)

Cold Elbow Macaroni mixed with Tuna salad is my favorite. Lot of onions and sweet pickles in my tuna salad is the key for me.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (EYmYM)

282 As a leg man I will be in my bunk until further notice. Good Lawd almighty.

Do I have a video for you.

https://is.gd/wvVYGJ

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (Riz8t)

283 If you look at the NJ voting there are several statistical irregularities. There is no way the Republican lost by that margin. You have phenomena like decreasing population and increasing turnout for only one party? No excuse mail in ballots plus ballot harvesting plus no voter id, no verification of citizenship and one of the worst voter role maintenance programs in the country. It’s completely rigged from top to bottom.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (ZSxEd)

284 It’s also true that Matt cares more about gaining power than feeding poor black people Democrats turned into their slavish dependents.

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As I've been saying for decades now:

Which is worse: being made a slave by force and at the point of a gun -- or willingly choosing to enslave yourself on the Democrat plantation?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (7U3kk)

285 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue

Apple fritters or apple empanadas

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (hUzUC)

286 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

Piper, I fully believe you’ll live to 100, but on your deathbed you’ll wish you’d eaten more fried foods.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (l3YAf)

287 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper
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Mac and Greens. Culinary tyranny!

Posted by: scampydog at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (2bFN5)

288 Great legs are probably the hardest feat for women to pull off. There are plenty of great racks out there, but great gams are much less frequent.

The chick in that pic that Mannix posted dues look like she's got just the right amount of muscle in her calves, which is the only part of the female body in which I like to see some muscle.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (77rzZ)

289 Imagine what would happen if the 2025 elections could be set up as a trigger to get the slightly engaged to be more interested in voting in an off year election. But that would require both a wicked smart marketer and a team of competent managers directing motivated workers on the ground.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (rbvCR)

A Charlie Kirk type, if you will.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (dGCAG)

290 Of course, my kids will tell you they get Mac and cheese for real once a year. Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

How do you maintain your Southern cred with all of that healthy stuff you cook with?
Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (QMAsf)

There is a huge butter deficit in Piper's cooking and baking.

Posted by: Paula Deen at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (wVcYX)

291 There was also cheese everywhere when I attempted to combine the two in a pan to carry to the party.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

This reminds me of Ace making veggie (or keto or whatver) lasagna.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (i24o9)

292 Tulsi Gabbard, grabbing the third rail: “Barack Hussein Obama ordered the overthrow of the United States government — on behalf of Hillary Clinton — after the 2016 election.”

Tulsi don't play.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (Riz8t)

293 263 Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

Putting any sort of vegetables in mac 'n' cheese is just wrong. It should only be pasta, cheese, and some kind of meat.

I liked putting hot dogs or tuna in mine when I'd make it.

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)

Back when I ate it or made it, yes, putting anything INTO mac and cheese was wrong, but having a toppings bar was great. Roasted broccoli or cauliflower, raw chopped greens (like spinach), bacon, ham, shredded cheese, hot sauce, ground beef, BBQ pork, fried onions, sauteed bell peppers or mushroom, etc...one dish could be many depending on the week and what toppings were put out...I did what so many of the fast casual restaurants started doing - making it a toppable dish.

But never do lobster - that's just disappointing for the mac and the lobster - always keep that separate...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (tOcjL)

294 285 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue

Apple fritters or apple empanadas
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (hUzUC)

Apple Cobbler.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (bss/y)

295 Kos claims one victory in the end to the shutdown vote,

There is one silver lining—this deal will eventually haunt Republicans. Had Democrats succeeded in saving ACA healthcare subsidies, clueless voters would never have known of the Democrats’ role in safeguarding their insurance.

When Republicans vote down Democratic efforts to save health care for millions of Americans, the blame will be crystal clear.
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Democrats perpetually confuse subsidies paid to insurance companies with healthcare, so it's a good thing to see this distinction. But no Democrat, Kos included, believe citizens should make their own decision on insurance: it is a Federal responsibility.

How to get voters to understand that flooding federal money into health insurance has exactly the same effect as flooding federal money into college education? Uncle Sugar paying the tab makes the purchase expensive, it causes annual price increases above inflation, and it degrades the quality of actual medical care.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (cHwNm)

296 I think that "Joe Rogan" male voter is just not showing up when Trump isn't on the ballot.

Unfortunately the AWFL and wine moms are very good at showing up, red pilled males, not so much.

I havent done a deep dive into the election from a few weeks ago, but everything I'm seeing is dem turnout was high and GOP was low.

If the same amount of GOP voters had showed up, they would have won many of these.

Posted by: Leupold at November 10, 2025 12:58 PM (eIzlH)

Joe Rogan is a political chameleon. His network of influencers is similar. This is not a bankable audience.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (KbCG3)

297 285 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue

Apple crisp. Very simple to make.

You can also make an apple upside down cake.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 10, 2025 01:06 PM (tLtz8)

298
Imagine what would happen if the 2025 elections could be set up as a trigger to get the slightly engaged to be more interested in voting in an off year election. But that would require both a wicked smart marketer and a team of competent managers directing motivated workers on the ground.
Posted by: Kindltot
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BINGO

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:06 PM (QBs6H)

299 217: the copramaniac is gay, I guess.

I still insist on seeing how well Sydney Sweeney can wear a pencil skirt.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (sVOFR)

300 What the hell is up with that top?

Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 12:54 PM (77rzZ)

Who cares? Nice hips/thighs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (i24o9)

301 The chick in that pic that Mannix posted dues look like she's got just the right amount of muscle in her calves, which is the only part of the female body in which I like to see some muscle.
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (77rzZ)

Bulg — You should check out old photos of Rachel McLish… the only female bodybuilder I ever saw who I thought was hot. Great gams

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (xT8gx)

302 Cold Elbow Macaroni mixed with Tuna salad is my favorite. Lot of onions and sweet pickles in my tuna salad is the key for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (EYmYM)
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This sounds like the way my Grandma made it.
She insisted on adding peas, though.
I am still convinced green peas are kind of commie plot.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (nBNUK)

303 Do I have a video for you.

https://is.gd/wvVYGJ
Posted by: Archimedes at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (Riz8t)

Om nom nom nom nom nom

Posted by: And a hummina for good measure at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (TbWk/)

304 Mamdani's win; the rise of the bitter and resentful.

His victory speech reminds me of how Rush would play that clip of the feminist, "we're here, we're fierce, and we're in your face!" at higher and higher pitch and speed, lol.

Related: Lions WR points to the broadcast booth, where Trump was, and does the "Trump dance" after scoring a TD.

Who is winning the culture?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (HXT0k)

305 >> How to get voters to understand that flooding federal money into health insurance has exactly the same effect as flooding federal money into college education?

Dude, we can’t even get voters to see flooding Federal money into college is bad.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:07 PM (l3YAf)

306 The stage kids caved. Some things to see. Durbin isn't running for re-election so he was instructed to vote that way. What's up in Nevada?????? Is it potentially a red state with all the people moving in from CA??? Both Dem Senators voted for cloture. One, Cortez-Masto up for re-election in 2028. The other, Rosen, just re-elected last cycle and was a No vote until now. Kaine is from a government state, had to vote yes. What's up with the Mainers? Rand Paul is a perpetual no to everything. Just wants attention.

Posted by: Jeff Carter (@pointsnfigures1) at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ZiwLX)

307 And Trump is going to spend everyday in office working to destroy them.
He raised good, strong children I hope he can do the same with Vance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (QBs6H)

Vance has a giant target on his back because he wants to re-industrialize the midwest and give places like ground-down mill towns something other than meth and fentanyl and enlisting in the military as an escape

This is not "things going on as usual".

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (rbvCR)

308 Joe Rogan is a political chameleon. His network of influencers is similar. This is not a bankable audience.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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It is if Joe Rogan turns it on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (QBs6H)

309 228, eh, I think it's cute, too. not very functional, but cute.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kHop/)

310 Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:03 PM (dGCAG)

Calif prop 50 vote had less than 8 Million total votes cast.

Last Prezzy election... 15.7 million votes. The Newsome Recall? 12.7 million votes cast.

Now, as Calif sends a Mail in Ballot automatically to ever registered voter? and all you have to do is check the boxes and put it in the mail? These numbers make no sense to me at all.

Am I to believe that HALF of the registered voters in Calif just threw the Prop 50 ballots away?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (mP0Kj)

311 Did you have a good weekend?

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We're enjoying a very nice late Indian summer (cultural appropriation by The Sun?) here in mile-high Northern AZ -- so enjoyed a nice long hike yesterday (even saw some lost bluebirds -- south is that way!).

OTOH, we may get a dusting of snow this upcoming weekend ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (7U3kk)

312 Joe Rogan is a political chameleon. His network of (fake word) is similar. This is not a bankable audience.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (KbCG3)

So apparently his network has zero influence.

Just as one would expect from an (fake word).

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (sVOFR)

313 I liked putting hot dogs or tuna in mine when I'd make it.
Posted by: Bulg at November 10, 2025 01:01 PM (77rzZ)

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I used to do mac & cheese with cut up hot dogs all the time. I haven't made that in like 25 years.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2025 01:09 PM (DRSnL)

314 For perfect gams I believe the correct exercise is...

Tennis
Figure Skating
Dancing

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:09 PM (sKqQm)

315 Thank you Ace

We came home from a four day Catalina/Ensenada cruise Friday morning then rushed to a Memorial Service for a friend. Saturday just vegged and Sunday began with a bang with yet another crisis with 96 y.o. Mother in Law.

So just another typical weekend in L.A.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 10, 2025 01:09 PM (QGaXH)

316 Whatever happened to "Luap Dnar" and "Luap Nor"? I used to get a chuckle every time I read either of those.

Posted by: Philip at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (EZ8Gq)

317 But never do lobster - that's just disappointing for the mac and the lobster - always keep that separate...
Posted by: Nova Local

Beg to differ. Nothing beats a good steak with lobster mac 'n cheese side.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (1Nv0l)

318 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (lCppi)

Apple crisp. The topping is oatmeal, flour, butter and brown sugar.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (rbvCR)

319 I think Trump and Ivanka were strong and good parents
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Dear, that would be Ivana. Ivanka is the daughter.

Ivana also ran around with Ghislane Maxwell a lot in the 1980's, because they were in the same social circle.

Meaning nothing, but they would use that against Trump. Ivana, by the way, passed away during Donald's first term. I think she had a stroke and fell down the stairs.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (vcOmj)

320 No beaches shut down as a result of the political drama, so this slender brunette didn't notice:
http://tiny.cc/youu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

What the hell is up with that top?
Posted by: Bulg

She's shooting a scene for Bikini Wedding XIV in 20 minutes?

Posted by: mikeski at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (nhCoE)

321 She's shooting a scene for Bikini Wedding XIV in 20 minutes?
Posted by: mikeski at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (nhCoE)
++++
oooh! I didn't know they were making another one!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (zxP/x)

322 200; more of a guideline really, innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 10, 2025 01:11 PM (kHop/)

323 298 -Posted by: Kindltot

Please consider sending your suggestion to whitehouse.gov

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 01:11 PM (U6VCW)

324 >>>the only female bodybuilder I ever saw who I thought was hot. Great gams

Casandra Carpenter.

She's normal size now. I've spoken to her a few times at dog shows. She's a professional dog handler.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 01:12 PM (Y1sOo)

325 Weekend: Was great. Spent most of it in the woods and good food, drink, and company in the evenings.

Posted by: scampydog at November 10, 2025 01:12 PM (2bFN5)

326 312 Joe Rogan is a political chameleon. His network of (fake word) is similar. This is not a bankable audience.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 10, 2025 01:05 PM (KbCG3)

So apparently his network has zero influence.

Just as one would expect from an (fake word).
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (sVOFR)

It does have influence. But he's just as likely to endorse Bernie as Trump. He was an original Bernie Bro.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (KbCG3)

327 >>> Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?

the Sahara, Gobi, the Kalahari, the Great Basin -- there's just so many

Posted by: spelling pedant at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (jGJov)

328 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (+A7Lm)

329
Unfortunately the AWFL and wine moms are very good at showing up,...

Well to be fair, ladies like to do stuff together...like go to the toilet.

Not sure what the draw is of combining perfume and farts but it must be enticing.

They should probably put voting booths in the women's bathrooms. Double up on things for efficiency, you know.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (iJfKG)

330 At DM, news you can use: "How to win at Rock, Paper, Scissors: Scientist reveals the simple trick that will guarantee you beat your friends every time"

Tomorrow's follow-up article: "How RPS champions can find new friends, and stop being shunned for being such jerks."

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:14 PM (7imtn)

331 If you look at the NJ voting there are several statistical irregularities. There is no way the Republican lost by that margin. You have phenomena like decreasing population and increasing turnout for only one party? No excuse mail in ballots plus ballot harvesting plus no voter id, no verification of citizenship and one of the worst voter role maintenance programs in the country. It’s completely rigged from top to bottom.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2025 01:04 PM (ZSxEd)

They might also be adding a few other tricks. They usually mail you sample ballots. Me and Mrs B each get one. The voter ID# was the exact same on both copies. One is addressed to me with my name, one is addressed to her with her name. Both had the same ID number. We called her parents, who also have them, andeach had their own ID number. They are registered dems, but vote republican. We are registered republicans, yet our numbers were the same. I have a feeling our 2 votes might only have counted as one. I wonder if this is some kind of new trick, assign registered republicans of the same address an identical voter ID number. Does one get canceled , or rerouted? Very strange.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 10, 2025 01:14 PM (snZF9)

332 Extent of blizzard damage yet to be determined.

So pretty much like a bill.

Posted by: DaveA at November 10, 2025 01:14 PM (FhXTo)

333 Am I to believe that HALF of the registered voters in Calif just threw the Prop 50 ballots away?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 10, 2025 01:08 PM (mP0Kj)

I have no clue how to interpret Californica's voting patterns, except to say I am sure they manufacture ballots when they need them.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM (dGCAG)

334 They should probably put voting booths in the women's bathrooms. Double up on things for efficiency, you know.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (iJfKG)

If they're going to vote with their lady parts anyway, might as well have appropriate placement.

Posted by: I'm out of ballots can you hand me one? at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)

335 So can the snapanese eat now?

Posted by: Just got here at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM (+A7Lm)

336 Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at November 10, 2025 01:10 PM (vcOmj

Sorry I got the name wrong, and yes, I did know that she had passed away . Were you implying that Ivana knew about and Ghislaine Maxwell 's pimping for Epstein.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2025 01:16 PM (U6VCW)

337 Well to be fair, ladies like to do stuff together...like go to the toilet.

Not sure what the draw is of combining perfume and farts but it must be enticing.

They should probably put voting booths in the women's bathrooms. Double up on things for efficiency, you know.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 10, 2025 01:13 PM (iJfKG)

I've voted in more than a few elections where the candidates on the ballot smelled worse than anything I've ever sniffed out of a terlet.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:16 PM (dGCAG)

338
This is not "things going on as usual".
Posted by: Kindltot
-------------

Agreed. But I don't think he's tough enough. .... Yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:16 PM (QBs6H)

339 Otherwise, it’s typically whole wheat or chickpea pasta, it’s light on the cheese but made with a very sharp cheddar so you don’t miss it, and lots of broccoli or zucchini in it. Because I am fun like that.

Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 12:57 PM (Wmg4n)

Is this your idea of fun, Mav?

Posted by: Goose at November 10, 2025 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

340 Happy 250th Birthday to the USMC and its former & current Marines!

My father was a Marine -- and I nearly became one (but had anger and authority issues).

My father was a musical genius (could play by ear) who primarily played the accordion. He began teaching it to me at age four on his occasional visits home (it was frequently gone before abandoning us) -- and of course the first song he aught me was the Marine Corps Hymn (which I can still play right-handed only on a piano 60 years later).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 01:17 PM (KvQ13)

341 >>Beg to differ. Nothing beats a good steak with lobster mac 'n cheese side.

Lobster mac 'n cheese is a staple around here. It's very good.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 01:17 PM (viF8m)

342 At AP News: "South Africa’s apartheid-era crimes inquiry is delayed over legal objections"

Tomorrow: "South African govt decides who to kill next, after all the Boers are chopped up and raped."

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:17 PM (7imtn)

343 The movie is about a Lefty lesbian boxer. Do the math retard.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (EYmYM)

lol

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)

344 Ciattarelli received 122,000 more total votes than he got in 2021.

He got more votes than Murphy received when he won re-election.

Sherrill got 450k more votes than Murphy.

The inner city historic turnout for an uninspiring candidate like Mikie is quite an anomaly.

How?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (QBs6H)

345 So in the end the Dems get what they wanted all along. Exertion of Obamacare subsidies for illegals.

Even when we win we lose.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (lO7EU)

346 So can the snapanese eat now?
Posted by: Just got here at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM (+A7Lm)

The real question is: do they ever stop? I wonder how many TJ of adipose tissue the Feds have subsidized over the years. We could probably power our country with treadmills and SNAP recipients.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (l3YAf)

347 Lesbian pillow fighting > Lesbian boxing

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:19 PM (sKqQm)

348 >>So in the end the Dems get what they wanted all along. Exertion of Obamacare subsidies for illegals.

No they didn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 01:20 PM (viF8m)

349 Sherrill got 450k more votes than Murphy.

The inner city historic turnout for an uninspiring candidate like Mikie is quite an anomaly.

How?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (QBs6H)

Dems hate tru on with the burning intensity of 1000
Suns. The showed up to show that hatred. Why is this so hard to understand? Sometimes the zebras are horses.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:20 PM (lO7EU)

350 Lesbian pillow fighting > Lesbian boxing
Posted by: 18-1

TIL "Lesbian Boxing" is not a euphemism.

Posted by: mikeski at November 10, 2025 01:20 PM (nhCoE)

351 The inner city historic turnout for an uninspiring candidate like Mikie is quite an anomaly.

How?
Posted by: Braenyard

Anger. The biggest motivator.

Trump is truly loathed by essentially all NJ's AWFLs. They would crawl over broken glass to register a vote against him.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (1Nv0l)

352 @344

>>How?

Any system that relies on mail-in ballots is unreliable, there is simply no chain of custody with a mail-in ballot, whoever control the voting process can rig the system to achieve whatever result they want.

Is it any surprise that the places that heavily rely on mail-in voting are Democrat controlled.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (XV/Pl)

353 "South Africa’s apartheid-era crimes inquiry is delayed over legal objections"

I'm gonna guess necklacing won't be part of the inquiry.

Posted by: Ripley at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (GUOwU)

354 Dems hate tru on with the burning intensity of 1000
Suns. The showed up to show that hatred. Why is this so hard to understand? Sometimes the zebras are horses.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:20 PM (lO7EU)

And the GOP continues its trend of attracting low propensity voters who only turn up every four year, and possibly only if Trump is on the ballot.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (l3YAf)

355 It was a good weekend overall; didn't really accomplish much & laid around more than average. An advance preview of winter weather, and one knee threatening to lodge a formal protest.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (kHop/)

356 348 >>So in the end the Dems get what they wanted all along. Exertion of Obamacare subsidies for illegals.

No they didn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 01:20 PM (viF8m)

Let me rephrase. They will vote on getting what they wanted shortly and it will pass thanks to RINOs voting for it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (lO7EU)

357 The movie is about a Lefty lesbian boxer. Do the math retard.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 10, 2025 12:55 PM (EYmYM)

lol
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 10, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)

The Christy Martin story is interesting enough. She was promoted as a pretty white girl fighter, and was good enough when she was fighting mostly against glorified amateurs.

But then she got in the ring against Layla Ali.

The whole thing about her husband shooting her and leaving her for dead is horrific, and I suppose her recovery would be more satisfying to many if it didn't include her taking up with a former opponent, and the two of them licking carpet together.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (dGCAG)

358 A Republican platform of "We gleefully mock ALL the SNAP recipients" is a sure-fire winner in the 2026 midterms. Keep it up.

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (7imtn)

359 Agreed. But I don't think he's tough enough. .... Yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:16 PM (QBs6H)

I thing he is tough, I am not so sure he is up to the backstabbing.
Everyone will have that strange new respect for Trump, and claim Vance is nothing like Trump, a betrayal of our normal order of things.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (rbvCR)

360 Is it any surprise that the places that heavily rely on mail-in voting are Democrat controlled.

And moderate/contested regions go mail in they always go hard left - remember they used to have to find hidden trunks full of ballots in WA to give it to the left...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (sKqQm)

361 And the GOP continues its trend of attracting low propensity voters who only turn up every four year, and possibly only if Trump is on the ballot.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

To be fair, it was Trump that attracted that segment.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (1Nv0l)

362 @344

>>How?

Any system that relies on mail-in ballots is unreliable, there is simply no chain of custody with a mail-in ballot, whoever control the voting process can rig the system to achieve whatever result they want.

Is it any surprise that the places that heavily rely on mail-in voting are Democrat controlled.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (XV/Pl)

It's why drug tests are in-person, not mail-in.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 01:23 PM (wVcYX)

363 Apple crisp is always good....

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 10, 2025 01:23 PM (Sco7b)

364 >>Let me rephrase. They will vote on getting what they wanted shortly and it will pass thanks to RINOs voting for it.

The offer to vote on it has been on the table since Day 1. Democrats insisted they wouldn't open the government until the vote was taken.

It will not pass. One of the biggest parts of the BBB Republicans worked hard to pass was to get illegals off benefits. They are not going to vote to put them back on.

In fact, Obamacare itself just might implode.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 01:24 PM (viF8m)

365 314 For perfect gams I believe the correct exercise is...

Tennis
Figure Skating
Dancing
Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:09 PM (sKqQm)
______________________________

I'd add: Grape Stomping, and drop kicking yapping tiny dogs.

Posted by: Orson at November 10, 2025 01:24 PM (dIske)

366 Think back to how much you hated Obama. And then triple it. That’s how much the average Democrat hates Trump. And if there’s an election for dog catcher they will turn out to vote for the Democrat to exercise that hate.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:24 PM (lO7EU)

367 Tennis
Figure Skating
Dancing
Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:09 PM (sKqQm)
______________________________

No pickleball?

Doof hardest hit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 10, 2025 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)

368 In fact, Obamacare itself just might implode.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 10, 2025 01:24 PM (viF8m)

Trump started agitating for that. Let's see if the Congressional GOP has gumption.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 01:25 PM (ExV1e)

369 So can the snapanese eat now?
Posted by: Just got here at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM

For just pennies a day you can feed a Snapanese village.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 10, 2025 01:25 PM (jc0TO)

370 And moderate/contested regions go mail in they always go hard left - remember they used to have to find hidden trunks full of ballots in WA to give it to the left...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (sKqQm)

Yep, I am still waiting to find out if the claim of 125% voter turn out in Oregon is just a rumor or not.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 10, 2025 01:25 PM (rbvCR)

371 I saw Doodly Squat open for Damn Yankees at Nautica Stage in '90.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe
+++
I've never heard of doodly squat. It was always called diddly squat back in the backwoods where I grew up.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at November 10, 2025 01:26 PM (Lo97M)

372 A Republican platform of "We gleefully mock ALL the SNAP recipients" is a sure-fire winner in the 2026 midterms. Keep it up.
Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:22 PM (7imtn)

Which GOP politicians are doing that?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:26 PM (l3YAf)

373 Golf also produces some shapely female legs.

Paige Spiranac says hello.

Posted by: ballistic at November 10, 2025 01:26 PM (5aZAZ)

374 Piper, I fully believe you’ll live to 100, but on your deathbed you’ll wish you’d eaten more fried foods.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

I eat plenty of fried okra! I haven’t really figured out how to health that one up and still have it taste as good.

Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (Wmg4n)

375 I've never heard of doodly squat. It was always called diddly squat back in the backwoods where I grew up.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at November 10, 2025 01:26 PM (Lo97M)

My girl is red hot
yo girl ain't doodly squat

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (JwNbV)

376 On the last two, I don't know what's being given up here. This is my guess: Democrats want SNAP and Veterans Affairs funded now for a full year so if they shut the government down again, they will not have to worry about their EBT army shrieking about "starving." As far as Veterans Affairs -- I dunno, Democrats don't really care about veterans.

One year will be just in time to whip the obese EBT army into a frenzy for the midterms. But wait what? Come to think of it Trump just got Ozempic cost down to less than an eyebrow job..
Funny guy Trump I just thought of that.
SNAP bennie recipients and vendors are being screened for fraud and abuse. Hopefully Congress will push the voter ID through the midterms,

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (VPPG8)

377 Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 10, 2025 01:21 PM (XV/Pl)

It's why drug tests are in-person, not mail-in.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2025 01:23 PM (wVcYX)

I wish I'd considered this before I got my mail order "bride."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (dGCAG)

378 Watched a cow get butchered.

Changed the tires on the wife's car.

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (RoO7G)

379 "Which GOP politicians are doing that?"

I see GOP constituents doing it 24/7, right here.

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (7imtn)

380 So can the snapanese eat now?
Posted by: Just got here at November 10, 2025 01:15 PM

For just pennies a day you can feed a Snapanese village.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 10, 2025 01:25 PM (jc0TO)

-------------

Sarry Stluthels, is that you?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (0BpYX)

381 Obamacare will implode like SS and Medicare have imploded. The math doesn’t work and has never worked. But SS is never going away neither is Medicare and Obamacare is now entrenched in government.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (lO7EU)

382 I've never heard of doodly squat. It was always called diddly squat back in the backwoods where I grew up.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at November 10, 2025 01:26 PM (Lo97M)
----
It was interchangeable in my part of the backwoods.

Until you're old enough to go hunting with the men and you realize that it's just the churched-up version of "jack shit" and then you go with that.

Posted by: ballistic at November 10, 2025 01:28 PM (5aZAZ)

383 I eat plenty of fried okra! I haven’t really figured out how to health that one up and still have it taste as good.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (Wmg4n)

Okay, your Southerner Card has been reinstated! 😂

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:28 PM (l3YAf)

384 Nood. Non-government firings and formatting issues.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 10, 2025 01:28 PM (ExV1e)

385 nood

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:28 PM (7imtn)

386 Speaking uh lobster, where my damn EBT card at?

Posted by: LaShondra at November 10, 2025 01:29 PM (+A7Lm)

387 I see GOP constituents doing it 24/7, right here.
Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (7imtn)

Not that Everyone Here prick again? God I fuckin' hate that guy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2025 01:29 PM (JwNbV)

388 Nood.

The best exercises for women to get great legs.

Oh wait. No ....Conde Nast.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 10, 2025 01:29 PM (Sco7b)

389 eat plenty of fried okra! I haven’t really figured out how to health that one up and still have it taste as good.
Posted by: Piper at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (Wmg4n)

I have that problem with...food

Posted by: blaster at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (RoO7G)

390 My practice wife was a ballet dancer. Attended the Joffrey School of Ballet and danced with the Salt Lake City Ballet for a few years.

Great gams.

Tiny tits, though.

Can't have everything.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (Y1sOo)

391 Obamacare will implode like SS and Medicare have imploded. The math doesn’t work and has never worked. But SS is never going away neither is Medicare and Obamacare is now entrenched in government.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (lO7EU)

Thank you, John McCain!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (l3YAf)

392 "God I fuckin' hate that guy."

I know. We've got lots of hate, but the Dems are the Real Haterz!

Posted by: gp at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (7imtn)

393 Sydney Sweeney has a slightly daft and lovable face. Behind, I believe, it is a serious person. I think she'll age well.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (WHfpM)

394 Anyone have a good idea for a desert that uses a lot of apples but that isnt apple pie?
Posted by: LASue

Apple cake
Please send me some

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 10, 2025 01:30 PM (OTdqV)

395 Filmmaker @KenBurns discusses why the Trump administration killed the Corporation for Public Broadcasting with @JohnAvlon: "It'll hurt mostly rural communities — maybe that's their intention. There'll be news deserts."

-
David Burge
@iowahawkblog
I grew up in a small rural community, and I distinctly remember back in '73 how shocked all the grownups were to turn on PBS and learn about World War II for the first time

-
Well, we know they're smart in NYC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 10, 2025 01:33 PM (L/fGl)

396 I wish I'd considered this before I got my mail order "bride."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2025 01:27 PM (dGCAG)

---------------

Extremely naive 70-something acquaintance -- who made a boatload of money as an insurance agent in San Diego and had a great bumper sticker on his car: "Ex-Wife For Sale, Take Over Payments" -- got scammed by some young hot Thai thing online (I tried to warn him).

He even picked up and moved over there to marry her -- and of course things went south very quick before able to do so.

He decided to stay and try to find someone else (haven't heard from him since); I'm sure his children were thrilled .../not.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 10, 2025 01:34 PM (0BpYX)

397
In fact, Obamacare itself just might implode.
Posted by: JackStraw
------

Goes in closet, practices happy dance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:36 PM (QBs6H)

398 >>>He decided to stay and try to find someone else (haven't heard from him since); I'm sure his children were thrilled .../not.
Posted by: ShainS --
---

Once they're in the garden it's difficult to get them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 10, 2025 01:38 PM (QBs6H)

399
Has Schmucky Schumer been promised a "Grilled Gray Meats" food truck sinecure just outside the Halls of Congress? He should be accorded that high honor, given his mad skills wielding the grilling tools.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at November 10, 2025 01:46 PM (Jl99f)

400 Think back to how much you hated Obama. And then triple it. That’s how much the average Democrat hates Trump. And if there’s an election for dog catcher they will turn out to vote for the Democrat to exercise that hate.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 10, 2025 01:24 PM (lO7EU)

Agreed. The intensity of hate for Trump is of the level, in my state, I have never seen since my first vote in 1968. The mere mention of his name caused Dem heads to explode. It's unreal.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 10, 2025 02:19 PM (5xuJ/)

401 What I hope happens is that every single SNAP, Medicaide, SSI person is reviewed as to if they are legal.

The rare photos I paid attention to of bread lines the people were 99% Hispanic looking and obese. They could probably use a few weeks of no junk food.

I want NO concessions to illgals, obese or otherwise. To where they deport themselves for tacos.

I saw the bs of not asking if legal citizens in our ED over 20yrs ago and enough is enough. Abuela should be a citizen at this point and speaketh English. If this makes me a cold hearted person then so be it.

I will be thankful to put this shut down behind us til the next one. Thankful the GOP did not appear to cave to Dim stompy tantrums.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 10, 2025 02:25 PM (MAl//)

402 IF Durbins net worth is 2.5M....after a gorillian years in state and Federal politics, he's been doing it wrong.

Posted by: RealAudit at November 10, 2025 03:06 PM (5LiC7)

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