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Gun Thread: First November Edition!
FUNdamentals Fundamentals of trigger reset and (not) flinching, that is. Q: Weasel, how do we not flinch?
A: Easy. Tell yourself not to flinch.
How To Field Strip a 1911
Shot Yourself At The range? No Worries! Here is how to apply an 'Israeli Bandage'.
More High Speed Photography and Colliding Bullets Don't try this at the range with your buds.
Our Pal Telephone Courtesy Are you courteous on the telephone? You should be courteous on the telephone.
Highway Patrol! This week's episode: License Plates!
The Time Machine! The 1960 adaptation of H.G. Wells' classic. Absolutely in Weasel's Top 8.
Even as we enter the bounty and prosperity of America's Golden Age, some of us remain... cheap. No, frugal, that's it. Some of us also can use cigars that are suitable for organic tree farming, processing brass, organizing our collections of Field & Stream, some version of golf, etc. Sticks that are enjoyable but not expensive. Herewith quick looks at 5 sticks I have found to fit this description. They all come as singles and five-packs, but I've used the bundle pricing (usually 20 sticks) here. Tabacos Baez - a Cuban sandwich (the filler consists partly of short-filler, usually scraps of tobacco from the cutting and rolling of premium cigars) from My Father cigars, the Garcias. Burn line was pretty well behaved for a Cuban sandwich. Draw and smoke volume were good. Flavor profile was a nice earthy maduro one, with hints of sweetness that by the second half had faded, leaving earth and dark woods. Nice stick. ($53 a box of 20, corona vitola) Rico Barato Maduro - an exclusive of Cigars Daily in Phoenix. Was surprised how nice this one is. Burns well, and not fast, as some find with Cuban sandwich cigars.; A light maduro profile and abundant smoke. Really a decent stick. ($65 a bundle of 20, torpedo) Rico Barato Connecticut - the other stick in the Rico Barato line. Construction was fine, flavor profile was towards the very light wood side, touch of bitterness at points as is not uncommon for connecticuts. ($65 a bundle of 20, torpedo) Flor de Oliva corojo - Oliva has a whole line of long-filler bundle-priced sticks, Flor de Oliva, which also come in Original, Maduro, and Connecticut versions. The corojo has a nice mellow flavor profile with a hint of spice and a tangy finish. ($59 a bundle of 20, torpedo) Quorum Natural - Nice solid basic cigar with a medium habano profile and pleasant tobacco flavors. Quorum now has a natural or "Classic", connecticut, and maduro version. This (the Classic) was usually my golf cigar a few years ago. ($38 a bundle of 20, robusto) Artisan Tabak - an exclusive (AFAIK) of Atlantic Cigars. A barber pole, with habano and maduro wrapper. A very nice mellow tobacco sweetness to this one, with a medium-bodied core of rich tobacco flavor. Out of a bundle of 20, only one had any construction issues, and was still salvageable. A favorite. ($57 a bundle of 20, robusto)Bigly excellent, rhomboid! Thank you very much for doing this!
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Comments
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aaaahhh, at last, back to shoulder holster season!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:00 PM (kHop/)
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Fundamentally first.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:00 PM (0sNs1)
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Corgis called
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:01 PM (x1Zfx)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)
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'evenin' Skip!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:02 PM (kHop/)
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Morning.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:04 PM (UJMvS)
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Field-stripping a 1911 is a fundamental skill that everyone should possess. The fact that many do not is one of the most damning data points of our so-called education system.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:04 PM (0sNs1)
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Yup, standard time has me off balance. Ribs just coming off the grill/smoker.
BBL, and i have a Range Report!
BBL, and i have a Range Report!
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 07:04 PM (GdrUi)
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on the beach at Gallipoli someone found what looks like a .303 bullet punched in the middle bt a Mauser (7.9?) bullet.
awesome find.
awesome find.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:05 PM (kHop/)
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Oh, wait, I guess the time change did mess me up.
Good evening and thanks for the gun thread, Weasel!
Good evening and thanks for the gun thread, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:05 PM (UJMvS)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (UJMvS)
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Ammo and reloading supplies seem to be in good supply in the local big-box stores.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (6Us78)
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7, cannot be overemphasized!
I can still do it with a brown-paper bag over my head
and re-assemble, lol!
I can still do it with a brown-paper bag over my head
and re-assemble, lol!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (kHop/)
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Big Thank You to DBCooper and rhomboid for the cigars they sent to the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (E6fZE)
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Telephone Courtesy: If I pick up a call and the speaker doesn't identify himself first thing, I immediately hang up, even for business contacts. I've had to explain this to my doctor's young receptionist several times.
Be professional, dammit!!!! I'm not your sorority sister!
/rant
Be professional, dammit!!!! I'm not your sorority sister!
/rant
Posted by: RS at November 02, 2025 07:07 PM (SuU/K)
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aaaahhh, at last, back to shoulder holster season!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:00 PM (kHop/)
Questions: What do you carry (is it full-size) in the shoulder holster? And Do you carry horizontal or vertical? (Or that funky, upside-down way?)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:00 PM (kHop/)
Questions: What do you carry (is it full-size) in the shoulder holster? And Do you carry horizontal or vertical? (Or that funky, upside-down way?)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 07:07 PM (6Us78)
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awww jeesh I could so smoak a cigar right now ... eh la ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:08 PM (kHop/)
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I'm here!!!! Don't start without me!!!
Sadly no range report.
But as I think I mentioned the other week I have started the process of building another rifle platform.
I have started by purchasing a scope.
The one I got this time is a NightForce NXS 8-32X56.
The rifle will be purchased at the beginning of next year.
Sadly no range report.
But as I think I mentioned the other week I have started the process of building another rifle platform.
I have started by purchasing a scope.
The one I got this time is a NightForce NXS 8-32X56.
The rifle will be purchased at the beginning of next year.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:08 PM (Jm6kM)
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O/T... wow... King Charlie is now moving to strip Prince Andy of his military rank... he served 22 years with the Royal Navy.... he is retired.
That's downright vindictive.
That's downright vindictive.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2025 07:09 PM (mP0Kj)
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I have started by purchasing a scope.
The one I got this time is a NightForce NXS 8-32X56.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:08 PM
A fine choice for long-range shooting. May we assume your also choosing the finest in long-range calibers, the 12.7×99mm NATO?
The one I got this time is a NightForce NXS 8-32X56.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:08 PM
A fine choice for long-range shooting. May we assume your also choosing the finest in long-range calibers, the 12.7×99mm NATO?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:11 PM (0sNs1)
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Big Thank You to DBCooper and rhomboid for the cigars they sent to the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (E6fZE)
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Yes! This!!!!!
Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2025 07:06 PM (E6fZE)
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Yes! This!!!!!
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:12 PM (VuvGL)
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your = you're
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:12 PM (0sNs1)
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Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread regulars.
Got the heater on in the shop, and the Sun was going down, and I decided I didn't feel like working anymore, so shut everything down, and came inside.
Got the heater on in the shop, and the Sun was going down, and I decided I didn't feel like working anymore, so shut everything down, and came inside.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:14 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM (2WIwB)
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21 the 12.7×99mm NATO?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:11 PM
Oh I wish.
No, I am going for the humble 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 02, 2025 07:11 PM
Oh I wish.
No, I am going for the humble 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM (Jm6kM)
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I decided to go hunting for a slower yet accurate load for the 30.06.
The 168 grain Hornady ELD M bullets were pulled off the shelf for my initial attempts at accurate yet less punishing.
I'll be darned if things didn't go exactly the way Weasel San advised. I did a ladder test and watched groups close up as velocity increased slightly.
Initial results were promising but I decided I'd do some testing with different weight bullets.
And the results are in: 178 G Hornady ELD M's will have to enter a shoot off with 174 Grain Hornady ELD VT bullets. The 168 grain bullets couldn't keep up.
Though, the 174's are going to have to work very hard because I got the 178's under 1/2 MOA @ 100 yards.
The 168 grain Hornady ELD M bullets were pulled off the shelf for my initial attempts at accurate yet less punishing.
I'll be darned if things didn't go exactly the way Weasel San advised. I did a ladder test and watched groups close up as velocity increased slightly.
Initial results were promising but I decided I'd do some testing with different weight bullets.
And the results are in: 178 G Hornady ELD M's will have to enter a shoot off with 174 Grain Hornady ELD VT bullets. The 168 grain bullets couldn't keep up.
Though, the 174's are going to have to work very hard because I got the 178's under 1/2 MOA @ 100 yards.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM (UJMvS)
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IPad I waned a ceremony like the beginning of the TV show Branded
Andrew gets his military insignia stripped off, button s ripped off and sword broken
Andrew gets his military insignia stripped off, button s ripped off and sword broken
Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM (+qU29)
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Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!
Posted by: TRex - darkness has descended on the land at November 02, 2025 07:16 PM (IQ6Gq)
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O/T... wow... King Charlie is now moving to strip Prince Andy of his military rank... he served 22 years with the Royal Navy.... he is retired.
That's downright vindictive.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2025 07:09 PM (mP0Kj)
This going to backfire bigly on the Royals. If I were Andy, I'd be putting feelers out to the IRA, just for spite.
That's downright vindictive.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 02, 2025 07:09 PM (mP0Kj)
This going to backfire bigly on the Royals. If I were Andy, I'd be putting feelers out to the IRA, just for spite.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:16 PM (npFr7)
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Good evening to all and thank you to Weasel.
No shooting this week or weekend, but getting ready for firearms deer season in a couple of weeks.
Have a great week everyone?!
No shooting this week or weekend, but getting ready for firearms deer season in a couple of weeks.
Have a great week everyone?!
Posted by: Coelacanth at November 02, 2025 07:17 PM (/RfNj)
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GWB - it's a super generic one from an army surplus store that would fit just about anything with suitable (velcro) adjustments.
easily fits a 1911; the 629 snubbie is right at its limits, ditto the 4" mdl. 66.
In my case it's an airweight Chief's with knockoff hogue grips, and four speed strips in the mag pouches.
overall I would say horizontal.
30 years ago I had a very stripped-down all-suede butt-downwards spring-held rig that totally rocked but I let a buddy use it ... stop me if you've heard this before, lol.
easily fits a 1911; the 629 snubbie is right at its limits, ditto the 4" mdl. 66.
In my case it's an airweight Chief's with knockoff hogue grips, and four speed strips in the mag pouches.
overall I would say horizontal.
30 years ago I had a very stripped-down all-suede butt-downwards spring-held rig that totally rocked but I let a buddy use it ... stop me if you've heard this before, lol.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM (kHop/)
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Evening T-Rex!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM (Jm6kM)
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Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM (Jm6kM)
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If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
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If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM (VuvGL)
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34 If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM
The rifle I am looking at will have a removable muzzle brake.
My current rifle has a muzzle break on it but is also removable.
If I lived in a freer State I would do what RI Red did and put a suppressor on it.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM
The rifle I am looking at will have a removable muzzle brake.
My current rifle has a muzzle break on it but is also removable.
If I lived in a freer State I would do what RI Red did and put a suppressor on it.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:21 PM (Jm6kM)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special howdy to our host Weasel, he of this ever-so-reasonable proposal:
If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM (VuvGL)
Hear! Hear! (As in, I like to be able to hear.)
If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM (VuvGL)
Hear! Hear! (As in, I like to be able to hear.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:22 PM (v23vE)
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We have several of those Israeli bandages on hand. Haven't had to use any yet but they are part of our home and car first aid kits.
Heads up. At least on ours the instructions are written on the wrapper so be careful when opening it.
BTW, that tip in the video about a quick and easy way to apply more pressure was helpful.
Heads up. At least on ours the instructions are written on the wrapper so be careful when opening it.
BTW, that tip in the video about a quick and easy way to apply more pressure was helpful.
Posted by: JTB at November 02, 2025 07:22 PM (yTvNw)
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magic smoke still in place? kudos, AOP!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:22 PM (kHop/)
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Anybody know anything about UTG red dot scopes? My brother has an AR he bought 11 years ago that has the red dot and magnifier. Its what the store sold him. I set them up today for him, since he hasn't done a damn thing with any of it since he bought it. They look pretty nice, solid quick release, glass is clear. I checked amazon and I was surprised the combo is around $200 or less. They almost looked too nice to be in that price range. I figured they would cost more.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:23 PM (snZF9)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 07:24 PM (BCwQW)
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magic smoke still in place? kudos, AOP!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:22 PM (kHop/)
It is! I didn't have any #10 solid wire, so I used stranded automotive wire, all of a foot for each lead, that pass through a pipe nipple from the outlet box to the panel. Should anything short to ground, the breaker will pop. And all the wire is behind metal covers.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:22 PM (kHop/)
It is! I didn't have any #10 solid wire, so I used stranded automotive wire, all of a foot for each lead, that pass through a pipe nipple from the outlet box to the panel. Should anything short to ground, the breaker will pop. And all the wire is behind metal covers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:25 PM (npFr7)
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Range report, just more random gun testing, this time testing a IWB holster for my XD45. Said XD45 had two failures to eject. Which...baffles me. This is an old gun maybe a spring or extractor is breaking down. The XD platform has been as reliable as my Glocks.
Oh well, XD45 is demoted from EDC until I get that figured out. I'm back to PSA Dagger with red dot.
Also tested a full sized Canik TP9SF, which ran just fine. 18 rounds and so much better than the old Steyr GB.
Also, rapid fire drills, like with Dot Torture Drills are slower and less accurate in .45 compared to 9mm. I mean, they were almost all kill shots at 5 yards but hitting the 2" dots was not consistent.
Oh well, XD45 is demoted from EDC until I get that figured out. I'm back to PSA Dagger with red dot.
Also tested a full sized Canik TP9SF, which ran just fine. 18 rounds and so much better than the old Steyr GB.
Also, rapid fire drills, like with Dot Torture Drills are slower and less accurate in .45 compared to 9mm. I mean, they were almost all kill shots at 5 yards but hitting the 2" dots was not consistent.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 02, 2025 07:26 PM (xcxpd)
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Bang!
Posted by: Eromero at November 02, 2025 07:27 PM (uFYhX)
Posted by: TRex - beware of angry scopes at November 02, 2025 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)
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had CPR / AED / first aid training the other week, and use of the (they didn't use the word "Israeli") tourniquet was included. nice.
I bought a few back when I was going to do some serious wilderness POTA / SOTA a few years ago; never needed it, yay, but a refresher was a good thing to have all the same.
I bought a few back when I was going to do some serious wilderness POTA / SOTA a few years ago; never needed it, yay, but a refresher was a good thing to have all the same.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:28 PM (kHop/)
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Were there a lot of rifles with muzzle brakes at the MoMe this year?
Only reason I put one on my rifle was to cut down on recoil. But I can toughen up and take the recoil like a man.
(Starts to count the days until I move to a State that lets me suppress the noise)
Ok, this is a stupid question, does a suppressor cut down on recoil?
Only reason I put one on my rifle was to cut down on recoil. But I can toughen up and take the recoil like a man.
(Starts to count the days until I move to a State that lets me suppress the noise)
Ok, this is a stupid question, does a suppressor cut down on recoil?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (Jm6kM)
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Tempus fugit
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (vwL3N)
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If you're ordering it with a muzzle brake make sure it's removable if you want to shoot it in Texas. I think we're going to begin not allowing them on the rifle range next year.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM
I'm confused. Something wrong with a muzzle brake?
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:18 PM
I'm confused. Something wrong with a muzzle brake?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (snZF9)
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Evening all
RangeReport!
The DMV MGC met up for the first time since Texas and had a full complement:Blaster, Sra Blster, Ed L, Iris, Hrothgar and myself.
I wanted to try some of the hints about sighting from last week but that kind got lost when I found i could shoot my Glocks without the patch. Did especially well with the G48 with the Holosun green dot and adequate with the G48 without. iris brought her EP9 and got to shoot some at 15 yds.
It was fun.
RangeReport!
The DMV MGC met up for the first time since Texas and had a full complement:Blaster, Sra Blster, Ed L, Iris, Hrothgar and myself.
I wanted to try some of the hints about sighting from last week but that kind got lost when I found i could shoot my Glocks without the patch. Did especially well with the G48 with the Holosun green dot and adequate with the G48 without. iris brought her EP9 and got to shoot some at 15 yds.
It was fun.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 02, 2025 07:30 PM (kHop/)
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48 I'm confused. Something wrong with a muzzle brake?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM
Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM
Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
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Were there a lot of rifles with muzzle brakes at the MoMe this year?
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There was at least one, which is one too many in my opinion. They are obnoxiously loud and disrespectful to others trying to use the range.
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There was at least one, which is one too many in my opinion. They are obnoxiously loud and disrespectful to others trying to use the range.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (VuvGL)
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I still flinch from time to time, frustrating as it is. You'd think I'd learn.
For we did have a knowledge question in HSROTC, which went something like this:
What is "trigger control"?
Trigger control is the steadily increasing pressure on the trigger such that the firer does not know when the firing pin is released.
For we did have a knowledge question in HSROTC, which went something like this:
What is "trigger control"?
Trigger control is the steadily increasing pressure on the trigger such that the firer does not know when the firing pin is released.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (vwL3N)
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Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
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Howdy
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (sAmhv)
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Evening AOP. I observed that brake light situation you noted at TXMoMe on my wife's Yukon. We took it in for repair and had the shop look at the light, and they gave it a clean bill of health. Yesterday, when she touched the brakes to slow down, both brake lights lit up -- but after she used her left turn signal, no brake light on that side.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:34 PM (v23vE)
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Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
I learn something new every day. I confess to not knowing what they are until now.
Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
I learn something new every day. I confess to not knowing what they are until now.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:34 PM (vwL3N)
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Can't do any shooting or reloading with this damn tendonitis in the right hand. (Not a serious matter, just massively annoying.) So for the pipe smokers in the crowd, I tried some Sutliff Burley J4 blend this week. So flavorful and pleasant I ordered a pound. It's like your favorite codger blend on steroids.
If you are looking to add to your pipe inventory, give a look at 4TH Generation pipes from Stokkebye and Rossi Mezzanotte line of pipes. I have several of each and they have all been excellent smokers. The Rossi are especially good values.
If you are looking to add to your pipe inventory, give a look at 4TH Generation pipes from Stokkebye and Rossi Mezzanotte line of pipes. I have several of each and they have all been excellent smokers. The Rossi are especially good values.
Posted by: JTB at November 02, 2025 07:34 PM (yTvNw)
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What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
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They generally don't cause the same problem and are OK. For a lot of AR platforms they are included in the 16" barrel length minimum and not removable.
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
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They generally don't cause the same problem and are OK. For a lot of AR platforms they are included in the 16" barrel length minimum and not removable.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:35 PM (VuvGL)
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I'm annoyed at the fact that I did not pick up some more cotton squares with which to clean my guns today. I'll have to do that some other time. In the meantime, two of my guns are out of commission until such time that I can clean them.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:36 PM (vwL3N)
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They generally don't cause the same problem and are OK. For a lot of AR platforms they are included in the 16" barrel length minimum and not removable.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:35 PM (VuvGL)
Jersey don't allow flash suppressors on ARs, you have to have a muzzle brake instead. Why? Because they are frigging retarded.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:35 PM (VuvGL)
Jersey don't allow flash suppressors on ARs, you have to have a muzzle brake instead. Why? Because they are frigging retarded.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (snZF9)
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I think I know one of the first things I will purchase in the beginning of 2028.
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (Jm6kM)
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Ok, this is a stupid question, does a suppressor cut down on recoil?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (Jm6kM)
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Yes, by quite a bit. However, I believe it's mostly due to weight and not because it's designed to reduce recoil.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:29 PM (Jm6kM)
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Yes, by quite a bit. However, I believe it's mostly due to weight and not because it's designed to reduce recoil.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (UJMvS)
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We had over 200 Trick-or-Treaters - I know this because we made up 225 treat bags and ran out of them! There were still Trick-or-Treaters coming, so next year we will make more 🎃🧙♀️🎃
We also decided that next year we will also hand out "Fairy Wands" - lighted sticks - to all of the kids so that they can be seen by any drivers on our street. We live in a historic district with lots of old trees; the neighborhood lights are historically accurate, and it can be hard to see much of anything at night thanks to the tree branches.
We put several of those wands along our fence line and the sidewalk leading up to our house, and they did a good job of lighting things up.
We have loved seeing our neighborhood come back to life with new families. We also are a "feeder road" down to Elizabeth Avenue - they have lots of BIG historic houses and always shut down the street every Halloween. The homeowners do it up big - elaborate decorations and everyone participates. They get lots of Trick-or-Treaters from all over, so families will park along the feeder roads and walk down there.
It's always lots of fun - our neighbor from across the street came over and helped us hand out candy.
We also decided that next year we will also hand out "Fairy Wands" - lighted sticks - to all of the kids so that they can be seen by any drivers on our street. We live in a historic district with lots of old trees; the neighborhood lights are historically accurate, and it can be hard to see much of anything at night thanks to the tree branches.
We put several of those wands along our fence line and the sidewalk leading up to our house, and they did a good job of lighting things up.
We have loved seeing our neighborhood come back to life with new families. We also are a "feeder road" down to Elizabeth Avenue - they have lots of BIG historic houses and always shut down the street every Halloween. The homeowners do it up big - elaborate decorations and everyone participates. They get lots of Trick-or-Treaters from all over, so families will park along the feeder roads and walk down there.
It's always lots of fun - our neighbor from across the street came over and helped us hand out candy.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (SRRAx)
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61 Because they are frigging retarded.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM
Ditto for New York
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM
Ditto for New York
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:39 PM (Jm6kM)
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I think I know one of the first things I will purchase in the beginning of 2028.
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (Jm6kM)
What magical thing is happening in 2028?
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (Jm6kM)
What magical thing is happening in 2028?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:39 PM (snZF9)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
My grandmother had a telephone table.
Telephones used to rate their own furniture!
My grandmother had a telephone table.
Telephones used to rate their own furniture!
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:40 PM (RoO7G)
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I think I know one of the first things I will purchase in the beginning of 2028.
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
If they go off the list, I'm buying 4.
A suppressor.
Unless we get lucky and get that thing thrown off the NFA in the next year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
If they go off the list, I'm buying 4.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:40 PM (x1Zfx)
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60 I'm annoyed at the fact that I did not pick up some more cotton squares with which to clean my guns today.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:36 PM
Do they have to be square? The round ones I have work perfectly fine. :-p
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:36 PM
Do they have to be square? The round ones I have work perfectly fine. :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (Jm6kM)
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Good evening, Teresa. Sounds like you had a great Halloween.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (UJMvS)
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Anybody know anything about UTG red dot scopes?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:23 PM (snZF9)
Berserker, this is generic red dot advice here. You and your brother have a few decisions to make before you take any shots w/ his new AR/red dot combo.
- At what range(s) do you want to zero the rifle + optic setup? What ammo will you use?
- What's the primary purpose of the rifle + optic combo? Range plinker, home defense/SHTF, hunting, etc. This might affect your choice of zeroing range.
- Does your brother intend to leave the red dot "on" all the time (a requirement for a home defense/SHTF rifle), or will it stay "off" until needed?
- How many knocks will that rifle + optic combo take during its "normal" use? Can the optics hold zero after going through something like getting bounced around in the trunk of your car or in the bed of a pickup truck? You might need several range trips to determine the optics' ability to hold zero after your "normal" use. I'm assuming you're not torture testing this setup.
- Does the optic exhibit any parallax (i.e. does the point of impact shift depending on where you place your eye relative to the optic)?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:23 PM (snZF9)
Berserker, this is generic red dot advice here. You and your brother have a few decisions to make before you take any shots w/ his new AR/red dot combo.
- At what range(s) do you want to zero the rifle + optic setup? What ammo will you use?
- What's the primary purpose of the rifle + optic combo? Range plinker, home defense/SHTF, hunting, etc. This might affect your choice of zeroing range.
- Does your brother intend to leave the red dot "on" all the time (a requirement for a home defense/SHTF rifle), or will it stay "off" until needed?
- How many knocks will that rifle + optic combo take during its "normal" use? Can the optics hold zero after going through something like getting bounced around in the trunk of your car or in the bed of a pickup truck? You might need several range trips to determine the optics' ability to hold zero after your "normal" use. I'm assuming you're not torture testing this setup.
- Does the optic exhibit any parallax (i.e. does the point of impact shift depending on where you place your eye relative to the optic)?
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (BCwQW)
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66 What magical thing is happening in 2028?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:39 PM
I will be following the birds and moving to the South permanently. Will only return for holidays and family events.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:39 PM
I will be following the birds and moving to the South permanently. Will only return for holidays and family events.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:42 PM (Jm6kM)
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Do they have to be square? The round ones I have work perfectly fine. :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (Jm6kM)
They can be any shape I suppose. : ) But the ones I normally buy in a bag are square.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (Jm6kM)
They can be any shape I suppose. : ) But the ones I normally buy in a bag are square.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:42 PM (vwL3N)
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It was good to shoot with the DMV MGC today.
sra blaster and I shot our 1911s because it had been a while. A little rusty.
Ed L. brought out his Mk 23 with suppressor and that was cool to shoot.
sra blaster and I shot our 1911s because it had been a while. A little rusty.
Ed L. brought out his Mk 23 with suppressor and that was cool to shoot.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (RoO7G)
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I will be following the birds and moving to the South permanently. Will only return for holidays and family events.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:42 PM (Jm6kM)
We have a traitor in our midst who thinks he can just leave the worker's and peasant's state just like that.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:42 PM (Jm6kM)
We have a traitor in our midst who thinks he can just leave the worker's and peasant's state just like that.
Posted by: People's Republic of New York at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (vwL3N)
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We have a traitor in our midst who thinks he can just leave the worker's and peasant's state just like that.
Posted by: People's Republic of New York at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: People's Republic of New York at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (UJMvS)
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Oh, and all of the Trick-or-Treaters were unfailingly polite, so the guns stayed holstered.
(There - that should make my previous comment pertinent to the thread. But Weasel DID ask about TnTers 🤣🤣🤣 )
(There - that should make my previous comment pertinent to the thread. But Weasel DID ask about TnTers 🤣🤣🤣 )
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (SRRAx)
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Evening AOP. I observed that brake light situation you noted at TXMoMe on my wife's Yukon. We took it in for repair and had the shop look at the light, and they gave it a clean bill of health. Yesterday, when she touched the brakes to slow down, both brake lights lit up -- but after she used her left turn signal, no brake light on that side.
Any thoughts?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:34 PM (v23vE)
No brake light while the turn signal is being used? That's normal, so as to make the flash more visible. If using the turn signal "jinxed" the brake light on the side, so it refuses to work at all, then you might have a faulty turn signal switch. In most older vehicles, the brake lights are fed power via the turn signal switch, and both get power when no turn is being signalled. Signal a turn, and the rear lamp(s) on that side are disconnected from the stop lamp switch and connected to the flasher unit. That way, the flashing rear lamp does not have to compete for visibility with the bright non-flashing stop lamp on the same side.
Now, later-model vehicles might use the Body Control Module to mediate that sort of logic problem.
Any thoughts?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:34 PM (v23vE)
No brake light while the turn signal is being used? That's normal, so as to make the flash more visible. If using the turn signal "jinxed" the brake light on the side, so it refuses to work at all, then you might have a faulty turn signal switch. In most older vehicles, the brake lights are fed power via the turn signal switch, and both get power when no turn is being signalled. Signal a turn, and the rear lamp(s) on that side are disconnected from the stop lamp switch and connected to the flasher unit. That way, the flashing rear lamp does not have to compete for visibility with the bright non-flashing stop lamp on the same side.
Now, later-model vehicles might use the Body Control Module to mediate that sort of logic problem.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:46 PM (npFr7)
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I will see if I can get my hands on the Luger about a month from now. Maybe a bit more than a month. But its existence is getting me to get off my ass finally and plan out a trip south.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:46 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (UJMvS)
It worked for my government. The Berlin Wall will still be standing in 50 or 100 years if the reasons for it being built have not changed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (UJMvS)
It worked for my government. The Berlin Wall will still be standing in 50 or 100 years if the reasons for it being built have not changed.
Posted by: Erich Honecker at November 02, 2025 07:47 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (UJMvS)
All and all you're just another brick in the wall.
You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 02, 2025 07:45 PM (UJMvS)
All and all you're just another brick in the wall.
Posted by: Floyd, Pink at November 02, 2025 07:48 PM (vwL3N)
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Small crowd tonight...
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:48 PM (vwL3N)
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Ed L. brought out his Mk 23 with suppressor and that was cool to shoot.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (RoO7G)
The Mk 23 is easily the most accurate handgun I own. I tried shooting at 25 yards w/ it today. Wide shot group, but all were on the paper of the target. Would have hit a silhouette target if one was up instead of a bullseye.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (RoO7G)
The Mk 23 is easily the most accurate handgun I own. I tried shooting at 25 yards w/ it today. Wide shot group, but all were on the paper of the target. Would have hit a silhouette target if one was up instead of a bullseye.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 07:49 PM (BCwQW)
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We have several of those Israeli bandages on hand. Haven't had to use any yet but they are part of our home and car first aid kits.
Heads up. At least on ours the instructions are written on the wrapper so be careful when opening it.
BTW, that tip in the video about a quick and easy way to apply more pressure was helpful.
Posted by: JTB
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keep one in the range bag with some other supplies, and of course, multiples in the MoMe range bag.
BTW, reading the instructions for the first time when opening it for need is not encouraged. Get some and practice in advance. Better to know how and not need it than the reverse.
Heads up. At least on ours the instructions are written on the wrapper so be careful when opening it.
BTW, that tip in the video about a quick and easy way to apply more pressure was helpful.
Posted by: JTB
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keep one in the range bag with some other supplies, and of course, multiples in the MoMe range bag.
BTW, reading the instructions for the first time when opening it for need is not encouraged. Get some and practice in advance. Better to know how and not need it than the reverse.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Howdy horde!
No range report. Sadly.
But I went last week and it was therapeutic.
1911s really are the schnizzle. Love them.
No range report. Sadly.
But I went last week and it was therapeutic.
1911s really are the schnizzle. Love them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 02, 2025 07:50 PM (c4f7e)
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
Yes, I've been to the range. Punched holes in the paper until I was too tired to rack the slide. Put some holes right through the middle of the target, too.
I found out that indoors, a .45 makes a whole lot more BOOM than a 9 mm. I wasn't quite expecting that, but I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Yes, I've been to the range. Punched holes in the paper until I was too tired to rack the slide. Put some holes right through the middle of the target, too.
I found out that indoors, a .45 makes a whole lot more BOOM than a 9 mm. I wasn't quite expecting that, but I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 02, 2025 07:51 PM (VmDLh)
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:51 PM (VuvGL)
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No brake light while the turn signal is being used? That's normal, so as to make the flash more visible. If using the turn signal "jinxed" the brake light on the side, so it refuses to work at all, then you might have a faulty turn signal switch. In most older vehicles, the brake lights are fed power via the turn signal switch, and both get power when no turn is being signalled. Signal a turn, and the rear lamp(s) on that side are disconnected from the stop lamp switch and connected to the flasher unit. That way, the flashing rear lamp does not have to compete for visibility with the bright non-flashing stop lamp on the same side.
Now, later-model vehicles might use the Body Control Module to mediate that sort of logic problem.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:46 PM (npFr7)
The behaviour (because you're from Alberta :grin
was the latter case; turn signal had been off for a few seconds, but still no left brake light. It's a 2016, for what it's worth, so I'm not sure if the Body Control Module is involved or not.
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Now, later-model vehicles might use the Body Control Module to mediate that sort of logic problem.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:46 PM (npFr7)
The behaviour (because you're from Alberta :grin
was the latter case; turn signal had been off for a few seconds, but still no left brake light. It's a 2016, for what it's worth, so I'm not sure if the Body Control Module is involved or not.
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:52 PM (v23vE)
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39 Anybody know anything about UTG red dot scopes? My brother has an AR he bought 11 years ago that has the red dot and magnifier. Its what the store sold him. I set them up today for him, since he hasn't done a damn thing with any of it since he bought it. They look pretty nice, solid quick release, glass is clear. I checked amazon and I was surprised the combo is around $200 or less. They almost looked too nice to be in that price range. I figured they would cost more.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:23 PM (snZF9)
Have no experience with UTG brand but lots with cheap optics - UTG is a not expensive brand. Chinese optic that probably works well enough. Considering the description "bought at the store and he did nothing with it for 11 years" probably the perfect setup!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:23 PM (snZF9)
Have no experience with UTG brand but lots with cheap optics - UTG is a not expensive brand. Chinese optic that probably works well enough. Considering the description "bought at the store and he did nothing with it for 11 years" probably the perfect setup!
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:53 PM (RoO7G)
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I am going to duck out early.
We are short handed at work and I am putting 11 hour days.
More if I have to go into the office.
Have a good evening everyone.
And thank you Weasel.
And I know you have been asked a thousand times, but maybe you will enlighten us on how an 18th century sailing warship worked.
Night all!!!
We are short handed at work and I am putting 11 hour days.
More if I have to go into the office.
Have a good evening everyone.
And thank you Weasel.
And I know you have been asked a thousand times, but maybe you will enlighten us on how an 18th century sailing warship worked.
Night all!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:53 PM (Jm6kM)
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We have a traitor in our midst who thinks he can just leave the worker's and peasant's state just like that.
Posted by: People's Republic of New York at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake
Snake P. will be available!
Posted by: People's Republic of New York at November 02, 2025 07:44 PM (vwL3N)
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You probably need to build a wall.....
Posted by: blake
Snake P. will be available!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (B7EJo)
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Boy, were those ribs good!
Range Report!
The Long Range was recleared this summer, and then given a huge brush clearing this fall. Our Long Range Committee put in new range markers very 100 yards, replaced all target T stakes, measured every target by GPS, and put the info, maps, and sample ballistics out on a QR card.
Scoobs, the pink ram has been retired! Now we have two foxes, small and smaller. I have video proof that I smacked both of them, now at 1107 yards!
Range Report!
The Long Range was recleared this summer, and then given a huge brush clearing this fall. Our Long Range Committee put in new range markers very 100 yards, replaced all target T stakes, measured every target by GPS, and put the info, maps, and sample ballistics out on a QR card.
Scoobs, the pink ram has been retired! Now we have two foxes, small and smaller. I have video proof that I smacked both of them, now at 1107 yards!
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (yZ9w8)
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I found out that indoors, a .45 makes a whole lot more BOOM than a 9 mm. I wasn't quite expecting that, but I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Posted by: Cybersmythe
Now do a .357. 😁
The flame is wild.
Posted by: Cybersmythe
Now do a .357. 😁
The flame is wild.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (x1Zfx)
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Anybody know anything about UTG red dot scopes?
Not about their optics specifically but I believe that UTG started out in the paintball market and then moved into the firearms market. I believe it's mostly (all?) Chinese made but some of it seems pretty solid especially for the price. I have a UTG quadrail on my carbine and it's been fine but then it has zero moving or electrical parts. Not sure it's stuff I would trust for a true SHTF gun.
Not about their optics specifically but I believe that UTG started out in the paintball market and then moved into the firearms market. I believe it's mostly (all?) Chinese made but some of it seems pretty solid especially for the price. I have a UTG quadrail on my carbine and it's been fine but then it has zero moving or electrical parts. Not sure it's stuff I would trust for a true SHTF gun.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 07:56 PM (3nLb4)
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92 Scoobs, the pink ram has been retired! Now we have two foxes, small and smaller. I have video proof that I smacked both of them, now at 1107 yards!
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM
Nice!! Looking forward to hitting them (hopefully) next year!
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM
Nice!! Looking forward to hitting them (hopefully) next year!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:56 PM (Jm6kM)
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There was at least one, which is one too many in my opinion. They are obnoxiously loud and disrespectful to others trying to use the range.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (VuvGL)
err, hope it wasn't us.
It came from the store that way! Really!
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (VuvGL)
err, hope it wasn't us.
It came from the store that way! Really!
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (RoO7G)
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Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 07:41 PM (BCwQW)
Short version, who the fuck knows. lol
He bought it 11 years ago, I just set it up for him since he hasn't done shit with it. Got the red dot and magnifiers mounted, got the quick releases working smooth and tight, adjusted the magnifier so the red dot is centered, etc. I just don't know anything about the UTG brand. From reviews I have read they seem to hold zero good, and there don't seem to be any real complaints. I'm just a little shocked at the price of them. They look much nicer than what they cost. He lives in a pretty safe area, so any home defense would be probably rare, so I would say its more of a colander facemask world/zombie apocalypse thing. He might go ACOG anyway.
Short version, who the fuck knows. lol
He bought it 11 years ago, I just set it up for him since he hasn't done shit with it. Got the red dot and magnifiers mounted, got the quick releases working smooth and tight, adjusted the magnifier so the red dot is centered, etc. I just don't know anything about the UTG brand. From reviews I have read they seem to hold zero good, and there don't seem to be any real complaints. I'm just a little shocked at the price of them. They look much nicer than what they cost. He lives in a pretty safe area, so any home defense would be probably rare, so I would say its more of a colander facemask world/zombie apocalypse thing. He might go ACOG anyway.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (snZF9)
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It's a 2016, for what it's worth, so I'm not sure if the Body Control Module is involved or not.
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:52 PM (v23vE)
I am guessing it is.
Apologies to Weasel for diverting the thread.
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:52 PM (v23vE)
I am guessing it is.
Apologies to Weasel for diverting the thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 07:58 PM (jH5TK)
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What have you done? Thousands of years of building and rebuilding, creating and recreating so you could let it crumble to dust. A million years of sensitive men dying for their dreams, for what? So you can swim, and dance, and play... You, all of you, I'm going back to my own time; I won't even bother to tell of the useless struggle and their hopeless future, but at least I can die among men!
George, The Time Machine
George, The Time Machine
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2025 07:59 PM (zZu0s)
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100
Posted by: Eromero at November 02, 2025 08:00 PM (LHPAg)
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85 Howdy horde!
No range report. Sadly.
But I went last week and it was therapeutic.
1911s really are the schnizzle. Love them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 02, 2025 07:50 PM (c4f7e)
She really does shoot them well, too
No range report. Sadly.
But I went last week and it was therapeutic.
1911s really are the schnizzle. Love them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 02, 2025 07:50 PM (c4f7e)
She really does shoot them well, too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 02, 2025 08:04 PM (xcxpd)
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Apologies to Weasel for diverting the thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (npFr7)
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I don't really mind that at all. I just want to keep things politics-free and have everyone be nice to one another. I don't do this each week because I want to moderate fights and deal with assholes. I think everyone does a good job in that regard and I appreciate it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (npFr7)
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I don't really mind that at all. I just want to keep things politics-free and have everyone be nice to one another. I don't do this each week because I want to moderate fights and deal with assholes. I think everyone does a good job in that regard and I appreciate it.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:04 PM (jH5TK)
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I will be following the birds and moving to the South permanently. Will only return for holidays and family events.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Scoob, leaving so early? Do you know where in the South you're headed?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Scoob, leaving so early? Do you know where in the South you're headed?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:04 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Dad joke. Sorry.
Police have confirmed that the person who fell tragically from an 18th floor nightclub was not a bouncer.
Police have confirmed that the person who fell tragically from an 18th floor nightclub was not a bouncer.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:05 PM (x1Zfx)
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60 I'm annoyed at the fact that I did not pick up some more cotton squares with which to clean my guns today. I'll have to do that some other time. In the meantime, two of my guns are out of commission until such time that I can clean them.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:36 PM (vwL3N)
Q-tips can work, as can a torn up cotton tee shirt or washcloth.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 02, 2025 07:36 PM (vwL3N)
Q-tips can work, as can a torn up cotton tee shirt or washcloth.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 02, 2025 08:06 PM (xcxpd)
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Weasel, if you’re able to come up next Spring, you’ll find that all of the targets are now well-marked, range accurate to a yard, and most have new backstops that give a good splash.
Makes spotting a whole lot asier.
Makes spotting a whole lot asier.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:07 PM (yZ9w8)
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1911 disassembly video: This works for GI 1911s and commercial models that use the GI guide rod inside the slide. For 1911s w/ a full length guide rod (one that protrudes from the slide when the slide is in full recoil or locked to the read), you'll have to fight the tension of the recoil spring when you disassemble and reassemble the weapon. Because the position of your hand is awkward, it can be difficult to exert the needed pressure to hold the slide in place while you try to exactly line up the swinging link with the slide stop pin, especially when reassembling the pistol. I purchased a customized Colt Commander w/ a full length guide rod. I chose to replace it w/ the factory one because the improvement in accuracy wasn't worth the increased difficulty of putting the thing back together after cleaning.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:07 PM (BCwQW)
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Well, here is a left-field question: could you put a suppressor on a muzzle-loader, and would you need an NFA tax stamp for it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:08 PM (npFr7)
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Hello all. Well, the old arthritis is getting worse in the hands and wrists (and just about anything from neck down) so a few guns are going, going, gone. First is the 1911 as I can't safely lower the hammer. The little LCP 380 is starting to be a problem with limp grip. I am about to re enter the wonderful world of J frame Smith and Wessons and really looking for a Colt Pocket Positive in 32 New Police. I've taken my Beretta Jetfire out of semi retirement as I can still cock the hammer with no trouble, and the tip up barrel aids in loading and unloading. Surprisingly, I can still cock and cycle a NAA mini revolver.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:10 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:11 PM (64qRd)
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Telephone curtesy vid was good. Still applies today. Hihgway Patrol episode was also one of the better ones I've seen.
Thanks for posting both!
Thanks for posting both!
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 02, 2025 08:11 PM (89Sog)
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Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
Sounds like there should be a gun thread on the differences in muzzle devices on a future Gun Thread, eh, Weasel?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
Sounds like there should be a gun thread on the differences in muzzle devices on a future Gun Thread, eh, Weasel?
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:11 PM (6Us78)
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110 Hello all. Well, the old arthritis is getting worse in the hands and wrists (and just about anything from neck down) so a few guns are going, going, gone. First is the 1911 as I can't safely lower the hammer. The little LCP 380 is starting to be a problem with limp grip. I am about to re enter the wonderful world of J frame Smith and Wessons and really looking for a Colt Pocket Positive in 32 New Police. I've taken my Beretta Jetfire out of semi retirement as I can still cock the hammer with no trouble, and the tip up barrel aids in loading and unloading. Surprisingly, I can still cock and cycle a NAA mini revolver.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:10 PM (gm9Sb)
Ooof. Sorry to hear that. J frame revolvers are just painful for shoot, if you absolutely need to carry one, go with wadcutters. Take a look at the EZ line of .380's
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:10 PM (gm9Sb)
Ooof. Sorry to hear that. J frame revolvers are just painful for shoot, if you absolutely need to carry one, go with wadcutters. Take a look at the EZ line of .380's
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 02, 2025 08:13 PM (xcxpd)
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Well, here is a left-field question: could you put a suppressor on a muzzle-loader, and would you need an NFA tax stamp for it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Physically? Yes, you can. With a lot of machining, it's possible.
Legally? No clue how that would work.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Physically? Yes, you can. With a lot of machining, it's possible.
Legally? No clue how that would work.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:14 PM (x1Zfx)
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I found out that indoors, a .45 makes a whole lot more BOOM than a 9 mm. I wasn't quite expecting that, but I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Posted by: Cybersmythe
Now do a .357. 😁
The flame is wild.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (x1Zfx)
Then try a .44 Magnum from a 4" inch (or shorter) barrel.
Cybersmythe, if the muzzle blast bothers you or those shooting next to you (and your state allows it), do consider setting a suppressor. MILSPEC .45 ACP ammo (most cheap practice .45 ammo today) is loaded to subsonic levels. .45 ACP suppresses quite nicely. For 9mm, look at rounds that are 147 grain or heavier for subsonic loadings.
Posted by: Cybersmythe
Now do a .357. 😁
The flame is wild.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (x1Zfx)
Then try a .44 Magnum from a 4" inch (or shorter) barrel.
Cybersmythe, if the muzzle blast bothers you or those shooting next to you (and your state allows it), do consider setting a suppressor. MILSPEC .45 ACP ammo (most cheap practice .45 ammo today) is loaded to subsonic levels. .45 ACP suppresses quite nicely. For 9mm, look at rounds that are 147 grain or heavier for subsonic loadings.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:15 PM (BCwQW)
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Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:11 PM (6Us7
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You're welcome to write something and send it in. Say, 500 words or thereabouts and a couple of pictures.
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You're welcome to write something and send it in. Say, 500 words or thereabouts and a couple of pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:15 PM (64qRd)
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the neighborhood lights are historically accurate, and it can be hard to see much of anything at night thanks to the tree branches.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (SRRAx)
Pfft. We have moderately good lighting, and it's still hard to see them when the entire family is wearing very dark clothing and they're walking down the middle of the dang street. (We do NOT block off traffic from our street for the evening. Which is good because we went out to dinner.)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 02, 2025 07:38 PM (SRRAx)
Pfft. We have moderately good lighting, and it's still hard to see them when the entire family is wearing very dark clothing and they're walking down the middle of the dang street. (We do NOT block off traffic from our street for the evening. Which is good because we went out to dinner.)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:16 PM (6Us78)
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Muzzle brakes can be uncomfortable to those on either side of you with the pressure and sound.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
Sounds like there should be a gun thread on the differences in muzzle devices on a future Gun Thread, eh, Weasel?
Posted by: GWB
Witt Machine Sound Mitigation Equipment
https://tinyurl.com/2vw8xdat
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:31 PM (Jm6kM)
What about regular flash suppressors?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 07:32 PM (snZF9)
Sounds like there should be a gun thread on the differences in muzzle devices on a future Gun Thread, eh, Weasel?
Posted by: GWB
Witt Machine Sound Mitigation Equipment
https://tinyurl.com/2vw8xdat
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:17 PM (x1Zfx)
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If they go off the list, I'm buying 4.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:40 PM (x1Zfx)
They will still be expensive. (At least some of them.)
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:40 PM (x1Zfx)
They will still be expensive. (At least some of them.)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:17 PM (6Us78)
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114 Yes, a J frame with even standard velocity defense loads can be a literal handful, but with wadcutter target loads they are very pleasant to shoot. Wadcutters will get the job done, as will the old cop go to, 158 gr round nose lead. That old load has mild recoil and the benefit of a long bullet that will upset in a wound channel.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:18 PM (gm9Sb)
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84 ... "keep one in the range bag with some other supplies, and of course, multiples in the MoMe range bag.
BTW, reading the instructions for the first time when opening it for need is not encouraged. Get some and practice in advance. Better to know how and not need it than the reverse."
All good thoughts. I hadn't thought of one in the range bag. I don't hunt anymore but having one in your pack in the field would be wise. They are small enough for pocket carry in most hunting clothes.
BTW, reading the instructions for the first time when opening it for need is not encouraged. Get some and practice in advance. Better to know how and not need it than the reverse."
All good thoughts. I hadn't thought of one in the range bag. I don't hunt anymore but having one in your pack in the field would be wise. They are small enough for pocket carry in most hunting clothes.
Posted by: JTB at November 02, 2025 08:18 PM (yTvNw)
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AOP, a silencer is a silencer (legal terminology here) in the eyes of the BATFE no matter what it's mounted on. So yes, you'll still need to submit a Form 4 for a suppressor mounted on black powder firearm. Note that cleaning the inside of that suppressor after firing it with black powder will be a massive PITA, given that black powder residues can be seriously corrosive to the metal inside the suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:19 PM (BCwQW)
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It's a 2016, for what it's worth, so I'm not sure if the Body Control Module is involved or not.
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:52 PM (v23vE)
I am guessing it is.
Apologies to Weasel for diverting the thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (npFr7)
I just looked it up, it does have a BCM. The question is what exactly is it doing? Is it just to replace the traditional flasher, and is the the turn signal switch in the column still acting as the typical "gate" to disconnect brake power to the side thats selected as in the older cars?
Thanks for giving me a few strings to tug on!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 07:52 PM (v23vE)
I am guessing it is.
Apologies to Weasel for diverting the thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 07:57 PM (npFr7)
I just looked it up, it does have a BCM. The question is what exactly is it doing? Is it just to replace the traditional flasher, and is the the turn signal switch in the column still acting as the typical "gate" to disconnect brake power to the side thats selected as in the older cars?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
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Now do a .357. 😁
The flame is wild.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (x1Zfx)
Especially out of a derringer!
The flame is wild.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 07:55 PM (x1Zfx)
Especially out of a derringer!
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (6Us78)
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Oops,I’m a little late. Great blog Weasel. I’m almost recovered from the MOME!
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
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Heh. Silencer, suppressor. My local drive through oil change place has a guy that gratefully picks up used oil filters. The guys at the shop says he has some acres and shoots a lot.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (gm9Sb)
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Note that cleaning the inside of that suppressor after firing it with black powder will be a massive PITA, given that black powder residues can be seriously corrosive to the metal inside the suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:19 PM (BCwQW)
Aha! You answered the crux of the question, in that a "non-firearm" does not make a suppressor a "non-suppressor".
I expect that a suppressor made for a black-powder firearm would have to be made such that it could be readily taken down for cleaning.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:19 PM (BCwQW)
Aha! You answered the crux of the question, in that a "non-firearm" does not make a suppressor a "non-suppressor".
I expect that a suppressor made for a black-powder firearm would have to be made such that it could be readily taken down for cleaning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (npFr7)
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They will still be expensive. (At least some of them.)
It will be interesting to see what happens if/when the government is forced to stop interfering in the market. My SWAG is that at first demand will boom -> higher prices but then higher prices coupled with lower regulation will bring more suppliers into the market -> lower prices.
It will be interesting to see what happens if/when the government is forced to stop interfering in the market. My SWAG is that at first demand will boom -> higher prices but then higher prices coupled with lower regulation will bring more suppliers into the market -> lower prices.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:24 PM (3nLb4)
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Driving back from Texas we passed a sign for Bud's Gun Shop in Tennessee - near Pigeon Forge, I think.
It's a real place, not just on the internet!
It's a real place, not just on the internet!
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:24 PM (RoO7G)
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expect that a suppressor made for a black-powder firearm would have to be made such that it could be readily taken down for cleaning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (npFr7)
You need a diesel truck muffler. lol
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (npFr7)
You need a diesel truck muffler. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:24 PM (snZF9)
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Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
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Me too, almost! I was pretty damn happy to climb out of the car!
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Me too, almost! I was pretty damn happy to climb out of the car!
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (64qRd)
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Oops,I’m a little late. Great blog Weasel. I’m almost recovered from the MOME!
Posted by: Rancherbob
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Thank you again Rancherbob and your wife...and Ben Had...for just a fantastic weekend. Looking forward to next year....
Posted by: Rancherbob
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Thank you again Rancherbob and your wife...and Ben Had...for just a fantastic weekend. Looking forward to next year....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Thank you again Rancherbob and your wife...and Ben Had...for just a fantastic weekend. Looking forward to next year....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
Seconded, from me and Mrs B. You guys need a star on the walk of fame somewhere.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
Seconded, from me and Mrs B. You guys need a star on the walk of fame somewhere.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:26 PM (snZF9)
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Cybersmythe, if the muzzle blast bothers you or those shooting next to you (and your state allows it), do consider setting a suppressor. MILSPEC .45 ACP ammo (most cheap practice .45 ammo today) is loaded to subsonic levels. .45 ACP suppresses quite nicely. For 9mm, look at rounds that are 147 grain or heavier for subsonic loadings.
I'm not worried about it. I was just surprised by it. I guess you could say I found out why I was given the advice to wear earplugs AND earmuffs. The range I'm at has people shooting shotguns and whatnot that you can feel even if they're several lanes over. Anyway, nobody's complained and I don't think they're likely to.
I'm not worried about it. I was just surprised by it. I guess you could say I found out why I was given the advice to wear earplugs AND earmuffs. The range I'm at has people shooting shotguns and whatnot that you can feel even if they're several lanes over. Anyway, nobody's complained and I don't think they're likely to.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 02, 2025 08:27 PM (VmDLh)
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Gonna leave a bit early because the time change and exciting trip to the range has tired me out but just wanted again to say how wonderful it was to see so many of you at the MoMe and can't wait to do it again. Maybe some of you will make it to VA next time so I dont have to wait a whole year for some hugs.
Have a good week.
Have a good week.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 02, 2025 08:27 PM (t/2Uw)
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Ed L,
I checked the "lost and found" box from last year when we did the final MoMe clean up this year.
No sign of your nice cup. Sorry.
I checked the "lost and found" box from last year when we did the final MoMe clean up this year.
No sign of your nice cup. Sorry.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:28 PM (HlyYF)
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Heh. Silencer, suppressor. My local drive through oil change place has a guy that gratefully picks up used oil filters. The guys at the shop says he has some acres and shoots a lot.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (gm9Sb)
Damn, that has to be messy. Is he trying to start his own oil field?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:23 PM (gm9Sb)
Damn, that has to be messy. Is he trying to start his own oil field?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:28 PM (snZF9)
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126 Oops,I’m a little late. Great blog Weasel. I’m almost recovered from the MOME!
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
Age wouldn't have anything to do with that recovery time, would it? Just kidding, happened to me too.
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
Age wouldn't have anything to do with that recovery time, would it? Just kidding, happened to me too.
Posted by: Eromero at November 02, 2025 08:28 PM (LHPAg)
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Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:10 PM (gm9Sb)
FYI, Walther has reintroduced the PP, PPK/S, and PPK in .32 ACP. Berretta plans to reintroduce the Cheetah in .32 ACP as well. The DMV MGC can attest that the PPK in .32 ACP has mild recoil and is easy to operate. If it floats your boat, the PPK/S also comes in a factory threaded barrel version. .32 ACP shot through a 9mm suppressor is a LOT of fun. The PPK/S's fixed barrel means you don't need a Neilson device/booster in order for the PPK/S to use a suppressor.
FYI, Walther has reintroduced the PP, PPK/S, and PPK in .32 ACP. Berretta plans to reintroduce the Cheetah in .32 ACP as well. The DMV MGC can attest that the PPK in .32 ACP has mild recoil and is easy to operate. If it floats your boat, the PPK/S also comes in a factory threaded barrel version. .32 ACP shot through a 9mm suppressor is a LOT of fun. The PPK/S's fixed barrel means you don't need a Neilson device/booster in order for the PPK/S to use a suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:29 PM (BCwQW)
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Ed L,
I checked the "lost and found" box from last year when we did the final MoMe clean up this year.
No sign of your nice cup. Sorry.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:28 PM (HlyYF)
Oh well. Thanks for checking!
I checked the "lost and found" box from last year when we did the final MoMe clean up this year.
No sign of your nice cup. Sorry.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:28 PM (HlyYF)
Oh well. Thanks for checking!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:30 PM (BCwQW)
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Back at you grreatful and berserker. It’s really all of you who make this a great event.
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:30 PM (ULHHb)
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135 One of the really good and cheap hearing protection items are Mack's Wax Earplugs, available at Big box stores and drug stores. You get about three uses out of a pair, and they come six to a box for cheap. Wear them under even a set of cheapo muffs and you're good.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (gm9Sb)
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I just looked it up, it does have a BCM. The question is what exactly is it doing? Is it just to replace the traditional flasher, and is the the turn signal switch in the column still acting as the typical "gate" to disconnect brake power to the side thats selected as in the older cars?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
Without a shop manual, I would be lost. In principle, the BCM could act as the flasher, and also do all the logic to decide which bulbs burn steady, and which ones flash with any given sets of inputs from the signal and brake light switches, which might just send a signal down the data bus.
Schnorfelpuppy probably ought to have mechanic put the BCM on a scan tool, and see if the BCM is returning any trouble codes. I drove a 2014 F150 around the block, and its turn signal switch has no "latch" in it. Moving the lever turns the flasher on, and I expect either a time delay, or a motion sensor on the steering column turns it off.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
Without a shop manual, I would be lost. In principle, the BCM could act as the flasher, and also do all the logic to decide which bulbs burn steady, and which ones flash with any given sets of inputs from the signal and brake light switches, which might just send a signal down the data bus.
Schnorfelpuppy probably ought to have mechanic put the BCM on a scan tool, and see if the BCM is returning any trouble codes. I drove a 2014 F150 around the block, and its turn signal switch has no "latch" in it. Moving the lever turns the flasher on, and I expect either a time delay, or a motion sensor on the steering column turns it off.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (npFr7)
145
Late. Beer brewed, though.
No, I am going for the humble 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM
Sounds like next NHMoMe will be 6.5 Creedmoor heavy.
No, I am going for the humble 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM
Sounds like next NHMoMe will be 6.5 Creedmoor heavy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3tPdH)
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Well, here is a left-field question: could you put a suppressor on a muzzle-loader, and would you need an NFA tax stamp for it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Physically? Yes, you can. With a lot of machining, it's possible.
Legally? No clue how that would work.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:14 PM (x1Zfx)
I hadn't thought of the legal question. Interesting.
I would say you might have a problem with any muzzleloader in damaging the suppressor when you run the rod down the barrel. Just one more thing to bang up.
And you might have an extra problem with an old-style, where you use real powder instead of the modern pelletized stuff. If powder got in the suppressor, you might get some very exciting flash out the end of the suppressor when the stuff down the barrel (in the right place) sent its hot gases blazing by the bits inside the suppressor.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Physically? Yes, you can. With a lot of machining, it's possible.
Legally? No clue how that would work.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:14 PM (x1Zfx)
I hadn't thought of the legal question. Interesting.
I would say you might have a problem with any muzzleloader in damaging the suppressor when you run the rod down the barrel. Just one more thing to bang up.
And you might have an extra problem with an old-style, where you use real powder instead of the modern pelletized stuff. If powder got in the suppressor, you might get some very exciting flash out the end of the suppressor when the stuff down the barrel (in the right place) sent its hot gases blazing by the bits inside the suppressor.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (6Us78)
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I asked this earlier today but then had to leave so I don't know if there was ever any answer.
Has anybody seen whig around lately?
Has anybody seen whig around lately?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3nLb4)
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Thank you again Rancherbob and your wife...and Ben Had...for just a fantastic weekend. Looking forward to next year....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
Likewise from me. It is a highlight of the year.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
Likewise from me. It is a highlight of the year.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:34 PM (npFr7)
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Rancher Bob & Cowhorse Queen,
Thank you again for hosting and putting up with all of us for another year!
Thank you again for hosting and putting up with all of us for another year!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:34 PM (BCwQW)
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Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:11 PM (6Us7
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You're welcome to write something and send it in. Say, 500 words or thereabouts and a couple of pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:15 PM (64qRd)
I don't know all the differences.
And I already sent something in for you on the .32. It might be closer to 5,000 words....
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You're welcome to write something and send it in. Say, 500 words or thereabouts and a couple of pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:15 PM (64qRd)
I don't know all the differences.
And I already sent something in for you on the .32. It might be closer to 5,000 words....
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:34 PM (6Us78)
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Rancher Bob & Cowhorse Queen,
Thank you again for hosting and putting up with all of us for another year!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:34 PM
Allow me to second that thanks for hosting us and making this a truly memorable MoMe!
Thank you again for hosting and putting up with all of us for another year!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:34 PM
Allow me to second that thanks for hosting us and making this a truly memorable MoMe!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 08:35 PM (3tPdH)
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We hope to see you all next year. It’ll be here before you know it.
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM (ULHHb)
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109 ... "Well, here is a left-field question: could you put a suppressor on a muzzle-loader, and would you need an NFA tax stamp for it?"
Had to look this up. Yes, it can be done but DOES require an NFA tax stamp. The examples I saw were used on modern inline styles. Loading and cleaning the suppressor with BP or a substitute would be a real PITA.
Since I only shoot traditional style muzzleloaders, attaching a suppressor would be considered desecration. (Shivers with horror at the thought.)
Had to look this up. Yes, it can be done but DOES require an NFA tax stamp. The examples I saw were used on modern inline styles. Loading and cleaning the suppressor with BP or a substitute would be a real PITA.
Since I only shoot traditional style muzzleloaders, attaching a suppressor would be considered desecration. (Shivers with horror at the thought.)
Posted by: JTB at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM (yTvNw)
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Bigly thanks to Weasel-san for the thread and the kind words.
Enjoying a La Aurora Ecuador on the porch after a nice swim. What’s with sunset already?? Oh, right.
Enjoying a La Aurora Ecuador on the porch after a nice swim. What’s with sunset already?? Oh, right.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM (3lPIc)
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No, I am going for the humble 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM
Sounds like next NHMoMe will be 6.5 Creedmoor heavy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3tPdH
Affirmative, RMBS!
I put 140s and 147s down range last week at all the newly painted and ID’d targets. You will be pleasantly amazed.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 02, 2025 07:15 PM
Sounds like next NHMoMe will be 6.5 Creedmoor heavy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3tPdH
Affirmative, RMBS!
I put 140s and 147s down range last week at all the newly painted and ID’d targets. You will be pleasantly amazed.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM (m6Eem)
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And you might have an extra problem with an old-style, where you use real powder instead of the modern pelletized stuff. If powder got in the suppressor, you might get some very exciting flash out the end of the suppressor when the stuff down the barrel (in the right place) sent its hot gases blazing by the bits inside the suppressor.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (6Us7
Well, if I were to try it, and I have no plans to do it, I would thread the end of the barrel, and simply unscrew the suppressor for loading purposes, and screw it back on once the ball was rammed home.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (6Us7
Well, if I were to try it, and I have no plans to do it, I would thread the end of the barrel, and simply unscrew the suppressor for loading purposes, and screw it back on once the ball was rammed home.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:37 PM (npFr7)
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Ed L,
Thanks for the gun cleaning class.
Came home and put Hoppe's #9 on the rust spots on my daughter's revolver. Let it soak and bit and then wiped clean.
Rust disappeared and bluing appears to be intact - which I don't quite understand.
Her revolver was VERY dry on the exterior when we cleaned it. I think the rust was from the acid in her hand oils?
Thanks for the gun cleaning class.
Came home and put Hoppe's #9 on the rust spots on my daughter's revolver. Let it soak and bit and then wiped clean.
Rust disappeared and bluing appears to be intact - which I don't quite understand.
Her revolver was VERY dry on the exterior when we cleaned it. I think the rust was from the acid in her hand oils?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:37 PM (HlyYF)
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Muzzle brakes on big boomers (looking at you, 300 WinMag) are socially undesirable at a range. My club has a short wall fown on the far right, we ask anyone with brake * big caliber to use that last bench.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:39 PM (3lPIc)
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Has anybody seen whig around lately?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3nLb4)
No, I have not. I know he has been battling health issues. Does anyone here have back-channel communication with him? If so, please let him know we care.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:32 PM (3nLb4)
No, I have not. I know he has been battling health issues. Does anyone here have back-channel communication with him? If so, please let him know we care.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:39 PM (npFr7)
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140 I'm trying to stay away from autoloaders, but the Beretta 30X has caught my eye, with the same manual of arms as my 950BS. I am a huge fan of 32s, even old 32 short top breaks (tinkered with hundreds before the hands went south). Right now, I still have a crusty Glock 17 first gen in the nightstand drawer and I also have an Iver Johnson Cadet 32 just in case, loaded with Fiocchi wadcutters (they're loaded a bit hot for Euro target autoloaders).
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 02, 2025 08:39 PM (gm9Sb)
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I hadn't thought of the legal question. Interesting.
There are "silenced" airguns that don't have any federal regulations. I seem to recall some years ago seeing a thread somewhere where someone wrote to ATF asking about that and the answer was "ATF regulates firearms, not airguns." Which was actually a sort of non-answer since the question wasn't about the airguns. So they, that is ATF, chooses not to care about the airgun suppressors but left themselves an out if they ever decide to change their minds. Muzzleloaders are not firearms either so, in theory, ATF shouldn't care about a suppressed one. It's at this point that one of my early shooting/self-defense instructor's best pieces of advice comes into play: "DBTC. Don't Be the Test Case."
There are "silenced" airguns that don't have any federal regulations. I seem to recall some years ago seeing a thread somewhere where someone wrote to ATF asking about that and the answer was "ATF regulates firearms, not airguns." Which was actually a sort of non-answer since the question wasn't about the airguns. So they, that is ATF, chooses not to care about the airgun suppressors but left themselves an out if they ever decide to change their minds. Muzzleloaders are not firearms either so, in theory, ATF shouldn't care about a suppressed one. It's at this point that one of my early shooting/self-defense instructor's best pieces of advice comes into play: "DBTC. Don't Be the Test Case."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:40 PM (3nLb4)
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The PPK/S's fixed barrel means you don't need a Neilson device/booster in order for the PPK/S to use a suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:29 PM (BCwQW)
Same for the 30X Tomcat from Beretta. Though I didn't get to shoot Ed's device on my pistol. Maybe in June.
The tip-up barrel (on the Beretta) takes some effort to loosen up, though, and might be a frustrating beginning for arthritic hands.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:29 PM (BCwQW)
Same for the 30X Tomcat from Beretta. Though I didn't get to shoot Ed's device on my pistol. Maybe in June.
The tip-up barrel (on the Beretta) takes some effort to loosen up, though, and might be a frustrating beginning for arthritic hands.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:40 PM (6Us78)
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Howdy RancherBob!
If you have already recovered after a mere two-week respite, then we were not Moron enough.
We will try to go MUCH harder at the 20th TXMoMe.
/sarc tag off
Tell CowHorseQueen hi from Pillage.
If you have already recovered after a mere two-week respite, then we were not Moron enough.
We will try to go MUCH harder at the 20th TXMoMe.
/sarc tag off
Tell CowHorseQueen hi from Pillage.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:41 PM (HlyYF)
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Echo my thanks to Rancher Bob and all those who allow the rest of us to just "show up."
I wasn't born at a TxMoMe but I got there as soon as I could.
I wasn't born at a TxMoMe but I got there as soon as I could.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (XQo4F)
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Ed L, Weasel, others - what do you know about the H&K 91? I am involved in winding up the affairs of a guy who had one. I knew he has stocked up on 308, but found out this week he was VERY well supplied with ammo.
Years ago he bought 10 (!) crates of West German surplus, nicely contained in protective 200-round battle packs. 10K rounds.
Figure that ammo, stored in perfect conditions, oughta fetch some $.
Years ago he bought 10 (!) crates of West German surplus, nicely contained in protective 200-round battle packs. 10K rounds.
Figure that ammo, stored in perfect conditions, oughta fetch some $.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (3lPIc)
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Does anyone here have back-channel communication with him? If so, please let him know we care.
I found an email from him from 3 years ago. I'll drop him a line.
I found an email from him from 3 years ago. I'll drop him a line.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (3nLb4)
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I don't really mind that at all. I just want to keep things politics-free and have everyone be nice to one another. I don't do this each week because I want to moderate fights and deal with assholes. I think everyone does a good job in that regard and I appreciate it.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:04 PM (jH5TK)
AOP was most helpful at TXMoMe noticing an issue with our car. I figured that placed the subject (barely) in scope.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 08:04 PM (jH5TK)
AOP was most helpful at TXMoMe noticing an issue with our car. I figured that placed the subject (barely) in scope.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (v23vE)
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Googly... Takes a lurker to do this... Cigar smoking 101...
"Don't inhale, until the tip glows..."
-Old Blind Hermit
"Don't inhale, until the tip glows..."
-Old Blind Hermit
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at November 02, 2025 08:45 PM (ZfTMG)
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Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:40 PM (6Us7
Also, the trigger pull on the 30X is huge for double-action. Of course, you can cock the hammer so you're shooting single-action. But Sharon didn't like the trigger at all.
Also, the trigger pull on the 30X is huge for double-action. Of course, you can cock the hammer so you're shooting single-action. But Sharon didn't like the trigger at all.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:45 PM (6Us78)
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Anyone else notice the one guy's name in the flinch video is Sotomayor?
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:47 PM (6Us78)
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Oh, this guy also got 4 H&K P7s back when they were first imported. With something like 20 mags.
Those definitely are pricey, far as I can tell.
Those definitely are pricey, far as I can tell.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:47 PM (3lPIc)
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I just looked it up, it does have a BCM. The question is what exactly is it doing? Is it just to replace the traditional flasher, and is the the turn signal switch in the column still acting as the typical "gate" to disconnect brake power to the side thats selected as in the older cars?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
Appreciate the research, Bers. Like I told AOP, I wanted more information so I can start digging deeper into the problem. (That said, I have a bad history with car electrical problems -- seems like everything I do makes the problems worse.)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
Appreciate the research, Bers. Like I told AOP, I wanted more information so I can start digging deeper into the problem. (That said, I have a bad history with car electrical problems -- seems like everything I do makes the problems worse.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (v23vE)
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Without a shop manual, I would be lost. In principle, the BCM could act as the flasher, and also do all the logic to decide which bulbs burn steady, and which ones flash with any given sets of inputs from the signal and brake light switches, which might just send a signal down the data bus.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (npFr7)
They can never just leave well enough alone. I went through this a few weeks ago with a friend who was rewiring his hot rod and didn't have blinkers when the brake lights came on. I looked in the car and saw the wires coming from the column with only half of them connected to anything. I said to him, you do realize that brake power goes through the column first before going to the brake lights, right? It took a few hours for him to understand that the brake filament and blinker filament is the same filament on an 1157 bulb, and something has to disconnect power from the brake side of the blinker being used and its done by the blinker selector switch in the column acting as a gate. I looked at the wiring diagram for the car and told him what to connect. Glad he didn't have a BCM, he would still be at it. lol
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (npFr7)
They can never just leave well enough alone. I went through this a few weeks ago with a friend who was rewiring his hot rod and didn't have blinkers when the brake lights came on. I looked in the car and saw the wires coming from the column with only half of them connected to anything. I said to him, you do realize that brake power goes through the column first before going to the brake lights, right? It took a few hours for him to understand that the brake filament and blinker filament is the same filament on an 1157 bulb, and something has to disconnect power from the brake side of the blinker being used and its done by the blinker selector switch in the column acting as a gate. I looked at the wiring diagram for the car and told him what to connect. Glad he didn't have a BCM, he would still be at it. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (snZF9)
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126 Oops,I’m a little late. Great blog Weasel. I’m almost recovered from the MOME!
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
Great to see you here, sir, so I can express my thanks in person! Y'all are so generous with your property and hospitality each year!
Posted by: Rancherbob at November 02, 2025 08:22 PM (oy4r9)
Great to see you here, sir, so I can express my thanks in person! Y'all are so generous with your property and hospitality each year!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:49 PM (v23vE)
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rick223/GWB, when it comes to suppressors, you generally go down one of two routes:
- Pick a suppressor that you can move between as many platforms (i.e. firearms) as you can.
- Pick suppressors that optimize sound suppression out of the platform you mate it to.
The first route will minimize the $$ you spend on suppressors, but you won't always get the best performance out of what you use them on. Also, suppressors designed for pistols won't work on rifles and vice versa. Because of the added weight and changes in the muzzle velocity of the bullets fired, adding a suppressor can change the point of impact for a previously zeroed weapon.
The second route means semi-permanently mating a suppressor to a specific platform. Some suppressors are designed to perform at their best with a specific firearm (EX: B&T's MP5 RBS suppressors are designed for the HK MP5 platform). Obviously, this is more expensive. But if you're looking to get the most sound suppression possible out of a specific platform that you can get, this is the way to go.
- Pick a suppressor that you can move between as many platforms (i.e. firearms) as you can.
- Pick suppressors that optimize sound suppression out of the platform you mate it to.
The first route will minimize the $$ you spend on suppressors, but you won't always get the best performance out of what you use them on. Also, suppressors designed for pistols won't work on rifles and vice versa. Because of the added weight and changes in the muzzle velocity of the bullets fired, adding a suppressor can change the point of impact for a previously zeroed weapon.
The second route means semi-permanently mating a suppressor to a specific platform. Some suppressors are designed to perform at their best with a specific firearm (EX: B&T's MP5 RBS suppressors are designed for the HK MP5 platform). Obviously, this is more expensive. But if you're looking to get the most sound suppression possible out of a specific platform that you can get, this is the way to go.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:49 PM (BCwQW)
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Affirmative, RMBS!
I put 140s and 147s down range last week at all the newly painted and ID’d targets. You will be pleasantly amazed.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM
Nice. Any thoughts on heavier 6.5 v. lighter?
I put 140s and 147s down range last week at all the newly painted and ID’d targets. You will be pleasantly amazed.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:36 PM
Nice. Any thoughts on heavier 6.5 v. lighter?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 08:50 PM (3tPdH)
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It took a few hours for him to understand that the brake filament and blinker filament is the same filament on an 1157 bulb, and something has to disconnect power from the brake side of the blinker being used and its done by the blinker selector switch in the column acting as a gate. I looked at the wiring diagram for the car and told him what to connect. Glad he didn't have a BCM, he would still be at it. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (snZF9)
Once you understand that switches and relays are in fact logic devices, a light comes on. Some of the very earliest digital computers were made almost entirely of relays. Must have made one Hell of a racket.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (snZF9)
Once you understand that switches and relays are in fact logic devices, a light comes on. Some of the very earliest digital computers were made almost entirely of relays. Must have made one Hell of a racket.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:52 PM (npFr7)
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OK, so what makes the emergency (Israeli) bandage an emergency (Israeli) bandage is the little plastic bid near the gauze and the plastic bit at the end?
Because, except for the reversal bit*, that's how I've always applied bandages with that stretchy stuff. But with tape or those little metal toothed clip things at the end.
(* And the twists if you need extra pressure. That's a handy trick.)
Because, except for the reversal bit*, that's how I've always applied bandages with that stretchy stuff. But with tape or those little metal toothed clip things at the end.
(* And the twists if you need extra pressure. That's a handy trick.)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 08:52 PM (6Us78)
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Schnorfelpuppy probably ought to have mechanic put the BCM on a scan tool, and see if the BCM is returning any trouble codes. I drove a 2014 F150 around the block, and its turn signal switch has no "latch" in it. Moving the lever turns the flasher on, and I expect either a time delay, or a motion sensor on the steering column turns it off.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (npFr7)
Again, appreciate it, AOP. One more question, if I have not already exceeded my quota for the evening -- do you assume that most mechanic shops have BCM scan tools, or is that a special capability?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 08:31 PM (npFr7)
Again, appreciate it, AOP. One more question, if I have not already exceeded my quota for the evening -- do you assume that most mechanic shops have BCM scan tools, or is that a special capability?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM (v23vE)
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Her revolver was VERY dry on the exterior when we cleaned it. I think the rust was from the acid in her hand oils?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:37 PM (HlyYF)
Quite possible. Did you check beneath the grips? I'm not sure where you live, or the storage conditions for that revolver. But moisture from the humidity can get beneath the grips and attack the frame from the inside.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 08:37 PM (HlyYF)
Quite possible. Did you check beneath the grips? I'm not sure where you live, or the storage conditions for that revolver. But moisture from the humidity can get beneath the grips and attack the frame from the inside.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)
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I said to him, you do realize that brake power goes through the column first before going to the brake lights, right? It took a few hours for him to understand that the brake filament and blinker filament is the same filament on an 1157 bulb, and something has to disconnect power from the brake side of the blinker being used and its done by the blinker selector switch in the column acting as a gate. I looked at the wiring diagram for the car and told him what to connect. Glad he didn't have a BCM, he would still be at it. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (snZF9)
Was the blinker fluid reservoir full?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 08:48 PM (snZF9)
Was the blinker fluid reservoir full?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:55 PM (v23vE)
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sra blaster and I were stocking our first aid kit and Grateful queried: are you taking a first aid class?
Thought about it. Last combat first aid class I had was some...years ago. I remember the red stuff is supposed to stay on the inside and that is pretty important. But, yeah - worthwhile finding a course locally.
Thought about it. Last combat first aid class I had was some...years ago. I remember the red stuff is supposed to stay on the inside and that is pretty important. But, yeah - worthwhile finding a course locally.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
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RMBS, my experience is that the 6.5 in 140 grain was heavenly inspired.
That being said, the 147s are no slouch, either.
That being said, the 147s are no slouch, either.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (m6Eem)
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The second route means semi-permanently mating a suppressor to a specific platform. Some suppressors are designed to perform at their best with a specific firearm (EX: B&T's MP5 RBS suppressors are designed for the HK MP5 platform). Obviously, this is more expensive. But if you're looking to get the most sound suppression possible out of a specific platform that you can get, this is the way to go.
Posted by: Ed L
That's what I will be looking for. One for the AR-10, one for the AR-15s, one for the Ruger 10-22 & one for the H&K USPs.
Posted by: Ed L
That's what I will be looking for. One for the AR-10, one for the AR-15s, one for the Ruger 10-22 & one for the H&K USPs.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:57 PM (x1Zfx)
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Good evening. Was up at the property and had intentions of shooting the 30.06 and 7mm08. Neither made it out of their case. Did shoot the crossbow, which went well.
Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2025 08:58 PM (41CYW)
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182 sra blaster and I were stocking our first aid kit and Grateful queried: are you taking a first aid class?
Thought about it. Last combat first aid class I had was some...years ago. I remember the red stuff is supposed to stay on the inside and that is pretty important. But, yeah - worthwhile finding a course locally.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
Concur 100%. blaster. The ones I've taken have been held under the name "Stop The Bleed". I have an individual first aid kit with tourniquet and Israeli bandage that always goes with me to the range.
Thought about it. Last combat first aid class I had was some...years ago. I remember the red stuff is supposed to stay on the inside and that is pretty important. But, yeah - worthwhile finding a course locally.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
Concur 100%. blaster. The ones I've taken have been held under the name "Stop The Bleed". I have an individual first aid kit with tourniquet and Israeli bandage that always goes with me to the range.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:59 PM (v23vE)
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Wellll… When I try to play the imbedded Time Machine, it tells me "Your browser can't play this video. Learn more" - nothing about regional or embed restrictions, it blames my browser.
Soooo… when I click on Learn More, it goes to YouTube page which shows logos for Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Microsoft Edge. I'm using Vivaldi. But, it tells me, "Your browser is up to date. You can use YouTube's latest features!"
Annnd… I look up the movie on YT, it says Free with Ads (which ads I don't see with Vivaldi, BTW), and plays just fine, as most everything does.
https://youtu.be/_QBq3EeCLgI
Still a few bugs in the system. 🦟🪰🪳
______
Sheldon’s Time Machine Works | The Big Bang Theory
https://youtu.be/sSMnIFWjaTY
Soooo… when I click on Learn More, it goes to YouTube page which shows logos for Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Microsoft Edge. I'm using Vivaldi. But, it tells me, "Your browser is up to date. You can use YouTube's latest features!"
Annnd… I look up the movie on YT, it says Free with Ads (which ads I don't see with Vivaldi, BTW), and plays just fine, as most everything does.
https://youtu.be/_QBq3EeCLgI
Still a few bugs in the system. 🦟🪰🪳
______
Sheldon’s Time Machine Works | The Big Bang Theory
https://youtu.be/sSMnIFWjaTY
Posted by: mindful webworker - Not flesh-eating Morlocks!!! at November 02, 2025 09:00 PM (opLpX)
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Was the blinker fluid reservoir full?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:55 PM (v23vE)
I think the reservoir in his brain cavity is low, lol. I was getting heartburn just looking at that wiring job he did. I still can't believe what I was seeing. I never saw anybody wire a car with just 3 colors.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:55 PM (v23vE)
I think the reservoir in his brain cavity is low, lol. I was getting heartburn just looking at that wiring job he did. I still can't believe what I was seeing. I never saw anybody wire a car with just 3 colors.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:00 PM (snZF9)
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Good evening. Was up at the property and had intentions of shooting the 30.06 and 7mm08. Neither made it out of their case. Did shoot the crossbow, which went well.
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At oversized Dinos? Lol
Posted by: scampydog
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At oversized Dinos? Lol
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 09:01 PM (IQ6Gq)
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sra blaster and I were stocking our first aid kit and Grateful queried: are you taking a first aid class?
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
One of the important things about setting up a Security and Safety Team for my church will be training. Guns, yes, but fire extinguisher, AED, CPR, and first aid will have much broader application.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
One of the important things about setting up a Security and Safety Team for my church will be training. Guns, yes, but fire extinguisher, AED, CPR, and first aid will have much broader application.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 09:01 PM (6Us78)
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One of the important things about setting up a Security and Safety Team for my church will be training. Guns, yes, but fire extinguisher, AED, CPR, and first aid will have much broader application.
Posted by: GWB
*****
Very wise approach
Posted by: GWB
*****
Very wise approach
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Ed L, Weasel, others - what do you know about the H&K 91? I am involved in winding up the affairs of a guy who had one. I knew he has stocked up on 308, but found out this week he was VERY well supplied with ammo.
Years ago he bought 10 (!) crates of West German surplus, nicely contained in protective 200-round battle packs. 10K rounds.
Figure that ammo, stored in perfect conditions, oughta fetch some $.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (3lPIc)
Original HK 91s are collectors' items today. If it's still in good shape, you should be able to get $4k, maybe even as much as $6k, depending on the accessories. Speaking of which, you didn't say how many magazines you had. Vintage magazines (especially real H&K mags) are worth some serious $$.
Years ago he bought 10 (!) crates of West German surplus, nicely contained in protective 200-round battle packs. 10K rounds.
Figure that ammo, stored in perfect conditions, oughta fetch some $.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 08:44 PM (3lPIc)
Original HK 91s are collectors' items today. If it's still in good shape, you should be able to get $4k, maybe even as much as $6k, depending on the accessories. Speaking of which, you didn't say how many magazines you had. Vintage magazines (especially real H&K mags) are worth some serious $$.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:03 PM (BCwQW)
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Wellll… When I try to play the imbedded Time Machine, it tells me "Your browser can't play this video. Learn more" - nothing about regional or embed restrictions, it blames my browser.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Not flesh-eating Morlocks!!! at November 02, 2025 09:00 PM (opLpX)
Yep. Mine, too. Amazon Prime Video is also not letting me watch movies in a Brave private window right now. I don't know if it's me not updating Win11 or if they're upset about me using private browsing mode.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Not flesh-eating Morlocks!!! at November 02, 2025 09:00 PM (opLpX)
Yep. Mine, too. Amazon Prime Video is also not letting me watch movies in a Brave private window right now. I don't know if it's me not updating Win11 or if they're upset about me using private browsing mode.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 09:04 PM (6Us78)
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Posted by: mindful webworker - Not flesh-eating Morlocks!!! at November 02, 2025 09:00 PM (opLpX)
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Well, shucks. My iPad get the same result. Oh well, sorry all y'all.
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Well, shucks. My iPad get the same result. Oh well, sorry all y'all.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 09:04 PM (LVjsR)
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RMBS, my experience is that the 6.5 in 140 grain was heavenly inspired.
That being said, the 147s are no slouch, either.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM
Hmm. Good to know. I have some 140 and 130 to try. I'll have to play with some heavier bullets, too.
That being said, the 147s are no slouch, either.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 08:56 PM
Hmm. Good to know. I have some 140 and 130 to try. I'll have to play with some heavier bullets, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)
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Also, as it's approaching that time, let me say, Thank You, Weasel, for the Gun Thread each week.
Also, thanks to all the morons here who help make it my one time to sit down and chat during the week.
Also, thanks to all the morons here who help make it my one time to sit down and chat during the week.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 09:06 PM (6Us78)
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Took a CPR/AED/Stop Bleed class two weeks ago. Excellent. Would actually like to do more stop-bleed training, will be asking the instructor what the options are.
Also hoping to convince my club to fund/partially fund such training for one RSO on each team, if possible, maybe get a bulk-discount rate.
Assembling my own stop-bleed kit that will be in the car/in the range bag.
Also hoping to convince my club to fund/partially fund such training for one RSO on each team, if possible, maybe get a bulk-discount rate.
Assembling my own stop-bleed kit that will be in the car/in the range bag.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj)
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One of the important things about setting up a Security and Safety Team for my church will be training. Guns, yes, but fire extinguisher, AED, CPR, and first aid will have much broader application.
Posted by: GWB
Do not scrimp on the AED. The ones we have at work are truly user stupid. You can be functionally illiterate and use it. It shows you pictures of where to place the "patches".
And it tells you if it needs to shock the patient.
Posted by: GWB
Do not scrimp on the AED. The ones we have at work are truly user stupid. You can be functionally illiterate and use it. It shows you pictures of where to place the "patches".
And it tells you if it needs to shock the patient.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:07 PM (x1Zfx)
Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2025 09:07 PM (41CYW)
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Concur 100%. blaster. The ones I've taken have been held under the name "Stop The Bleed". I have an individual first aid kit with tourniquet and Israeli bandage that always goes with me to the range.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:59 PM (v23vE)
... except that it didn't come with me to Texas. This year, anyway. Derp.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:59 PM (v23vE)
... except that it didn't come with me to Texas. This year, anyway. Derp.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 09:08 PM (v23vE)
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Ed L, only had a quick look at the 91, no function check, cosmetically not pristine, honest usage wear/tear. Pretty sure it's "pre-ban", so, original.
As for mags, 3 factory 5-rounders, 7 factory steel 20-rounders, 7 alloy 20-rounders. 22 conversion kit, pristine, in a cool wooden carrying case. Bunch of spare parts, bipod.
As for mags, 3 factory 5-rounders, 7 factory steel 20-rounders, 7 alloy 20-rounders. 22 conversion kit, pristine, in a cool wooden carrying case. Bunch of spare parts, bipod.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:09 PM (U/Byj)
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That's what I will be looking for. One for the AR-10, one for the AR-15s, one for the Ruger 10-22 & one for the H&K USPs.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:57 PM (x1Zfx)
For the AR-10 and AR-15, please make sure you select a low pressure, flow through design can (EX: Huxworks, B&T). Older design cans will significantly increase the volume and velocity of the gas coming back into the chamber and upper receiver, increasing the force your bolt carrier hits your buffer weight. If you pick a high back pressure can, make sure you look at adding a heavier buffer, a heavier buffer spring, and a gas tight charging handle. You don't want to inhale the fumes coming into the upper receiver from your high back pressure suppressor. They WILL make you sick and do bad things to your lungs.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 08:57 PM (x1Zfx)
For the AR-10 and AR-15, please make sure you select a low pressure, flow through design can (EX: Huxworks, B&T). Older design cans will significantly increase the volume and velocity of the gas coming back into the chamber and upper receiver, increasing the force your bolt carrier hits your buffer weight. If you pick a high back pressure can, make sure you look at adding a heavier buffer, a heavier buffer spring, and a gas tight charging handle. You don't want to inhale the fumes coming into the upper receiver from your high back pressure suppressor. They WILL make you sick and do bad things to your lungs.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:12 PM (BCwQW)
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Some time ago I took a 3-day Wilderness First Aid course which was really good. The focus is on what to do when the victim is more than 48 hours from definitive medical care. If you spend a lot of time in the outdoors it's highly recommended.
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 09:12 PM (LVjsR)
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AEDs are great that way, rickb. Still, I'd like crew to watch videos, so that the process is second nature. One thing I will need to do is organize my crew so that (for now, and of course if I'm present) I do the CPR while someone gets the AED, another calls 911 (with a careful message - sheriffs need to know it's a non-shooting medical situation, no "active shooter"), and someone else *makes sure NOBODY ELSE calls it in on their own*.
The latter happened at a serious gun blow-up incident in the spring, sheriffs rolled heavy, very unnecessary tension and risk.
The latter happened at a serious gun blow-up incident in the spring, sheriffs rolled heavy, very unnecessary tension and risk.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:13 PM (U/Byj)
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OK, 9:14 thank you time.
Thank you!
Appreciate everyone being here tonight and hope to see you all here next Sunday!
Thank you!
Appreciate everyone being here tonight and hope to see you all here next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2025 09:14 PM (LVjsR)
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Again, appreciate it, AOP. One more question, if I have not already exceeded my quota for the evening -- do you assume that most mechanic shops have BCM scan tools, or is that a special capability?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM (v23vE)
I think any of the high-end scan tools that a professional shop would use ought to be able to communicate with the BCM.
You might ask at an O'Reilly's shop.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM (v23vE)
I think any of the high-end scan tools that a professional shop would use ought to be able to communicate with the BCM.
You might ask at an O'Reilly's shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:15 PM (npFr7)
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Thank you, Weasel! And all the folks, most of whose names I've forgotten, for all your help.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 02, 2025 09:16 PM (VmDLh)
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As always, I appreciate the effort, Weasel, and the ability to chat with true Morons.
Posted by: RI Red at November 02, 2025 09:17 PM (6jy2V)
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Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 02, 2025 09:19 PM (Wnv9h)
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Years back (when I was in DC) I signed up for a wilderness first aid class but couldn't make it. Gonna look into that too.
And going to nag club management about supporting a goal of at least one trained member per crew.
When I started this RSO thing my buddy who did it with me was a Navy SEAL among whose specialties was combat first aid (he spent weeks at Bethesda Naval doing training each year). That was extraordinarily good, can't replicate that, but we can do out utmost.
And going to nag club management about supporting a goal of at least one trained member per crew.
When I started this RSO thing my buddy who did it with me was a Navy SEAL among whose specialties was combat first aid (he spent weeks at Bethesda Naval doing training each year). That was extraordinarily good, can't replicate that, but we can do out utmost.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:19 PM (U/Byj)
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I do the CPR while someone gets the AED, another calls 911 (with a careful message - sheriffs need to know it's a non-shooting medical situation, no "active shooter"), and someone else *makes sure NOBODY ELSE calls it in on their own*.
The latter happened at a serious gun blow-up incident in the spring, sheriffs rolled heavy, very unnecessary tension and risk.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:13 PM (U/Byj)
When we were doing steel shooting competition at our range, the safety brief included how to make the 911 call - say there was a "training incident" not a shooting. For just that reason.
The latter happened at a serious gun blow-up incident in the spring, sheriffs rolled heavy, very unnecessary tension and risk.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:13 PM (U/Byj)
When we were doing steel shooting competition at our range, the safety brief included how to make the 911 call - say there was a "training incident" not a shooting. For just that reason.
Posted by: blaster at November 02, 2025 09:21 PM (RoO7G)
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I don't do this each week because I want to moderate fights and deal with assholes. I think everyone does a good job in that regard and I appreciate it.
Screw you, pal!
Screw you, pal!
Posted by: Contrarian Wanker at November 02, 2025 09:21 PM (TYYnH)
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Email to whig's old address bounced.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 02, 2025 09:21 PM (TBe+1)
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Years back (when I was in DC) I signed up for a wilderness first aid class but couldn't make it. Gonna look into that too.
And going to nag club management about supporting a goal of at least one trained member per crew.
When I started this RSO thing my buddy who did it with me was a Navy SEAL among whose specialties was combat first aid (he spent weeks at Bethesda Naval doing training each year). That was extraordinarily good, can't replicate that, but we can do out utmost.
Posted by: rhomboid
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training is invaluable - actual training, beyond watching videos. If it becomes time to use, you want it to be second nature, not trying to remember what to do....
And going to nag club management about supporting a goal of at least one trained member per crew.
When I started this RSO thing my buddy who did it with me was a Navy SEAL among whose specialties was combat first aid (he spent weeks at Bethesda Naval doing training each year). That was extraordinarily good, can't replicate that, but we can do out utmost.
Posted by: rhomboid
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training is invaluable - actual training, beyond watching videos. If it becomes time to use, you want it to be second nature, not trying to remember what to do....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Ed L, only had a quick look at the 91, no function check, cosmetically not pristine, honest usage wear/tear. Pretty sure it's "pre-ban", so, original.
As for mags, 3 factory 5-rounders, 7 factory steel 20-rounders, 7 alloy 20-rounders. 22 conversion kit, pristine, in a cool wooden carrying case. Bunch of spare parts, bipod.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:09 PM (U/Byj)
Because it appears you have a very complete set of accessories, you might want to consider contacting James Williamson at Teufelshund Tactical. He's H&K's point man for the US and does offer a consignment service. Since he has ties to the H&K mothership, he should be able to give you a very definitive assessment on the condition of not just the rifle, but all of the other accessories you have.
As for mags, 3 factory 5-rounders, 7 factory steel 20-rounders, 7 alloy 20-rounders. 22 conversion kit, pristine, in a cool wooden carrying case. Bunch of spare parts, bipod.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:09 PM (U/Byj)
Because it appears you have a very complete set of accessories, you might want to consider contacting James Williamson at Teufelshund Tactical. He's H&K's point man for the US and does offer a consignment service. Since he has ties to the H&K mothership, he should be able to give you a very definitive assessment on the condition of not just the rifle, but all of the other accessories you have.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:23 PM (BCwQW)
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I think any of the high-end scan tools that a professional shop would use ought to be able to communicate with the BCM.
You might ask at an O'Reilly's shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:15 PM (npFr7)
Again, much appreciated, sir! And thanks to Weasel and the Gub Threaders for their forbearance allowing us to discuss my used-car woes.
You might ask at an O'Reilly's shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:15 PM (npFr7)
Again, much appreciated, sir! And thanks to Weasel and the Gub Threaders for their forbearance allowing us to discuss my used-car woes.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 09:24 PM (v23vE)
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For the AR-10 and AR-15, please make sure you select a low pressure, flow through design can (EX: Huxworks, B&T). Older design cans will significantly increase the volume and velocity of the gas coming back into the chamber and upper receiver, increasing the force your bolt carrier hits your buffer weight. If you pick a high back pressure can, make sure you look at adding a heavier buffer, a heavier buffer spring, and a gas tight charging handle. You don't want to inhale the fumes coming into the upper receiver from your high back pressure suppressor. They WILL make you sick and do bad things to your lungs.
Posted by: Ed L
THANK YOU for the advice! Seriously.
Posted by: Ed L
THANK YOU for the advice! Seriously.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:24 PM (x1Zfx)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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You might ask at an O'Reilly's shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:15 PM (npFr7)
One more thing. Don't hesitate to replace all the bulbs in the left rear lamp housing, and the left front, too, if the front lamp housing acts as both park and turn lamps. Reason being, a dual-filament bulb can burn out at the end of one filament, and the broken filament can droop down and weld itself to the intact filament for the other function. Weirdness will result.
Also check for bad grounds in the affected lamp holder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:15 PM (npFr7)
One more thing. Don't hesitate to replace all the bulbs in the left rear lamp housing, and the left front, too, if the front lamp housing acts as both park and turn lamps. Reason being, a dual-filament bulb can burn out at the end of one filament, and the broken filament can droop down and weld itself to the intact filament for the other function. Weirdness will result.
Also check for bad grounds in the affected lamp holder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (npFr7)
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Justified
@AP 3h
One of the monkeys that escaped last week after a truck overturned on a Mississippi roadway was shot and killed early Sunday by a homeowner who says she feared for the safety of her children
@AP 3h
One of the monkeys that escaped last week after a truck overturned on a Mississippi roadway was shot and killed early Sunday by a homeowner who says she feared for the safety of her children
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (mlg/3)
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Thanks Weasel for hosting...hope your wife is feeling better... and of course, extra treats for the doggies.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Ed L, thanks for the usual expert tip. The process of dealing with the collection in question is just starting, but hoping to max the return (and should be able to get a few less spectacular guns of interest to me when it's all done).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 09:28 PM (U/Byj)
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@AP 3h
One of the monkeys that escaped last week after a truck overturned on a Mississippi roadway was shot and killed early Sunday by a homeowner who says she feared for the safety of her children
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (mlg/3)
They don't ship monkeys in barrels anymore? What is the world coming to?
One of the monkeys that escaped last week after a truck overturned on a Mississippi roadway was shot and killed early Sunday by a homeowner who says she feared for the safety of her children
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (mlg/3)
They don't ship monkeys in barrels anymore? What is the world coming to?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:29 PM (npFr7)
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And it tells you if it needs to shock the patient.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:07 PM (x1Zfx)
Well, that sounds kinda nanny-ish. If I've broken out the machine, man, you're getting the treatment.
(And, yes, I'm just kidding.)
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:07 PM (x1Zfx)
Well, that sounds kinda nanny-ish. If I've broken out the machine, man, you're getting the treatment.
(And, yes, I'm just kidding.)
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 09:30 PM (6Us78)
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Well, that sounds kinda nanny-ish. If I've broken out the machine, man, you're getting the treatment.
(And, yes, I'm just kidding.)
Posted by: GWB
*snort
(And, yes, I'm just kidding.)
Posted by: GWB
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:31 PM (x1Zfx)
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Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:24 PM (x1Zfx)
The problems with high back pressure cans on M4s is the primary reason why special operators have switched to the H&K 416 platform vice the M4/AR-15. The gas pressure problem is greatly reduced w/ a short stroke gas piston design vice direct impingement. Even w/ a flow through can, you should still get a gas tight charging handle. Why breath in any nasty gases if you can reduce the problem?
The problems with high back pressure cans on M4s is the primary reason why special operators have switched to the H&K 416 platform vice the M4/AR-15. The gas pressure problem is greatly reduced w/ a short stroke gas piston design vice direct impingement. Even w/ a flow through can, you should still get a gas tight charging handle. Why breath in any nasty gases if you can reduce the problem?
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:32 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks Weasel and thanks Horde!
Posted by: TRex - free range dino at November 02, 2025 09:33 PM (IQ6Gq)
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One more thing. Don't hesitate to replace all the bulbs in the left rear lamp housing, and the left front, too, if the front lamp housing acts as both park and turn lamps. Reason being, a dual-filament bulb can burn out at the end of one filament, and the broken filament can droop down and weld itself to the intact filament for the other function. Weirdness will result.
Also check for bad grounds in the affected lamp holder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (npFr7)
Thanks again, brother. Glad to have the chance to discuss with a Moron who's been there and done that.
(Which, it occurs to me, is the Gun Thread in a nutshell. Thanks, Weasel!)
Also check for bad grounds in the affected lamp holder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 02, 2025 09:26 PM (npFr7)
Thanks again, brother. Glad to have the chance to discuss with a Moron who's been there and done that.
(Which, it occurs to me, is the Gun Thread in a nutshell. Thanks, Weasel!)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 02, 2025 09:33 PM (v23vE)
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Quite possible. Did you check beneath the grips? I'm not sure where you live, or the storage conditions for that revolver. But moisture from the humidity can get beneath the grips and attack the frame from the inside.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM
Will check under the grips.
I also cut her a strip of very bright white poster board. We laid it across the firing pin area after the cylinder was removed, then put her cell phone light next to the barrel to shine down at the firing pin and reflect up the barrel. She could then easily look down the barrel to check its cleanliness. (It was surprisingly clean for all of the .22 ammo she has run through the barrel.)
I think with maybe one more "team" cleaning, she will be able to perform care and maintenance on her gun by herself in the future.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 08:54 PM
Will check under the grips.
I also cut her a strip of very bright white poster board. We laid it across the firing pin area after the cylinder was removed, then put her cell phone light next to the barrel to shine down at the firing pin and reflect up the barrel. She could then easily look down the barrel to check its cleanliness. (It was surprisingly clean for all of the .22 ammo she has run through the barrel.)
I think with maybe one more "team" cleaning, she will be able to perform care and maintenance on her gun by herself in the future.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 09:43 PM (HlyYF)
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The problems with high back pressure cans on M4s is the primary reason why special operators have switched to the H&K 416 platform vice the M4/AR-15. The gas pressure problem is greatly reduced w/ a short stroke gas piston design vice direct impingement. Even w/ a flow through can, you should still get a gas tight charging handle. Why breath in any nasty gases if you can reduce the problem?
Posted by: Ed L
Thank you for your insights. I didn't know about high & low pressure cans and the ones I've looked at don't mention it.
Posted by: Ed L
Thank you for your insights. I didn't know about high & low pressure cans and the ones I've looked at don't mention it.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 02, 2025 09:44 PM (x1Zfx)
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Whats the deal with this pre ban stuff I read about occasionally. I know there was some ban in '94, but whats the difference in pre ban and stuff made now? I still see them making shit they did for years, so whats the deal?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
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Neither made it out of their case. Did shoot the crossbow, which went well.
Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2025 08:58 PM
I hope you don't need a suppressor on that since you are shooting sub-sonic "ammo".
Have fun at deer camp this year with the family!
Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2025 08:58 PM
I hope you don't need a suppressor on that since you are shooting sub-sonic "ammo".
Have fun at deer camp this year with the family!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (HlyYF)
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whats the difference in pre ban and stuff made now?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Mostly stupid sh*t. Pinned muzzle brake so you can't put a suppressor on...minimum length, no bayonet lug, etc.
They are functionally identical.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Mostly stupid sh*t. Pinned muzzle brake so you can't put a suppressor on...minimum length, no bayonet lug, etc.
They are functionally identical.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 02, 2025 09:53 PM (n9ltV)
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Whats the deal with this pre ban stuff I read about occasionally. I know there was some ban in '94, but whats the difference in pre ban and stuff made now? I still see them making shit they did for years, so whats the deal?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Because for some manufacturers, "pre-ban" guns are worth more $$ than those made during the ban. For example, Colt had to remove some desirable features from its AR-15s during the ban (EX: bayonet lugs, collapsing stocks). Thus, the pre-ban Colt AR-15s are still worth more $$ today compared to those made during the ban years (1994-2005). Because the ban specifically targeted a lot of H&K products, H&K firearms were, for all practical purposes, effectively extinct from the US market for their most desirable firearms (G3, MP5, etc.) Many of the remainder were sacrificed to become platforms for NFA Class 3 firearms (HK 94 --> MP5), so relatively few survived intact. Hence the rise of the clone market in the US for H&K firearms.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Because for some manufacturers, "pre-ban" guns are worth more $$ than those made during the ban. For example, Colt had to remove some desirable features from its AR-15s during the ban (EX: bayonet lugs, collapsing stocks). Thus, the pre-ban Colt AR-15s are still worth more $$ today compared to those made during the ban years (1994-2005). Because the ban specifically targeted a lot of H&K products, H&K firearms were, for all practical purposes, effectively extinct from the US market for their most desirable firearms (G3, MP5, etc.) Many of the remainder were sacrificed to become platforms for NFA Class 3 firearms (HK 94 --> MP5), so relatively few survived intact. Hence the rise of the clone market in the US for H&K firearms.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:57 PM (BCwQW)
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Posted by: scampydog at November 02, 2025 09:59 PM (41CYW)
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Ed L, interesting info re H&K and the "ban". The 91 in question is almost certainly pre-ban.
Interestingly, I saw a "G3" manual among the items - but there was an enormous amount to do and I couldn't focus on assessing condition, accessory status, etc for the firearms. Definitely not a G3 in the mix.
Interestingly, I saw a "G3" manual among the items - but there was an enormous amount to do and I couldn't focus on assessing condition, accessory status, etc for the firearms. Definitely not a G3 in the mix.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 10:00 PM (U/Byj)
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but whats the difference in pre ban and stuff made now?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Not all bans are equal. I think there was one pre-94 that affected one of the weapons I own, a Mahdi AKM. Supposedly those could no longer be imported. (I don't know, but it might be a "more easily modified to be a nasty fun giggle-switch gun" issue.)
Currently you can't import machine guns of any sort. You can buy ones already imported (for big bucks because of, IIRC, the 84 ban), and American made ones, but you can't get anything now made overseas in full auto.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 09:46 PM (snZF9)
Not all bans are equal. I think there was one pre-94 that affected one of the weapons I own, a Mahdi AKM. Supposedly those could no longer be imported. (I don't know, but it might be a "more easily modified to be a nasty fun giggle-switch gun" issue.)
Currently you can't import machine guns of any sort. You can buy ones already imported (for big bucks because of, IIRC, the 84 ban), and American made ones, but you can't get anything now made overseas in full auto.
Posted by: GWB at November 02, 2025 10:04 PM (6Us78)
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Because for some manufacturers, "pre-ban" guns are worth more $$ than those made during the ban. For example, Colt had to remove some desirable features from its AR-15s during the ban (EX: bayonet lugs, collapsing stocks). Thus, the pre-ban Colt AR-15s are still worth more $$ today compared to those made during the ban years (1994-2005). Because the ban specifically targeted a lot of H&K products, H&K firearms were, for all practical purposes, effectively extinct from the US market for their most desirable firearms (G3, MP5, etc.) Many of the remainder were sacrificed to become platforms for NFA Class 3 firearms (HK 94 --> MP5), so relatively few survived intact. Hence the rise of the clone market in the US for H&K firearms.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:57 PM (BCwQW)
yeah that shit I knew, like colt changing the diameter of the pins on the trigger group on the AR, and all the silly cosmetic shit. But I see stuff made now and I still see CAR-15 stocks, and the aftermarket receivers still using the .154 pins, etc. I guess the better question was it is a collector thing. Basically worth more because it was made before the great fuckening, yet grandfathered.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 09:57 PM (BCwQW)
yeah that shit I knew, like colt changing the diameter of the pins on the trigger group on the AR, and all the silly cosmetic shit. But I see stuff made now and I still see CAR-15 stocks, and the aftermarket receivers still using the .154 pins, etc. I guess the better question was it is a collector thing. Basically worth more because it was made before the great fuckening, yet grandfathered.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 10:04 PM (snZF9)
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Posted by: Rex B at November 02, 2025 10:06 PM (CzhWp)
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Ed L, interesting info re H&K and the "ban". The 91 in question is almost certainly pre-ban.
Interestingly, I saw a "G3" manual among the items - but there was an enormous amount to do and I couldn't focus on assessing condition, accessory status, etc for the firearms. Definitely not a G3 in the mix.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 10:00 PM (U/Byj)
During the ban, H&K ended production of the G3/HK 91. So it didn't come back after the ban ended. H&K had already moved on to the G36 and the 416 by then.
Interestingly, I saw a "G3" manual among the items - but there was an enormous amount to do and I couldn't focus on assessing condition, accessory status, etc for the firearms. Definitely not a G3 in the mix.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 02, 2025 10:00 PM (U/Byj)
During the ban, H&K ended production of the G3/HK 91. So it didn't come back after the ban ended. H&K had already moved on to the G36 and the 416 by then.
Posted by: Ed L at November 02, 2025 10:06 PM (BCwQW)
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Ok, so after the ban some shit never returned. yeah, I can see that pre ban shit being worth some cash in that instant.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 02, 2025 10:08 PM (snZF9)
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Nice review of short filler cigars, Rhomboid. Quorum was my budget go-to in California. Would not recommend for a novice, but for an every day addict like myself, it's a reliable smoke that won't break the bank.
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