House Oversight Committee Declares Biden's "Autopen Presidency" "Null and Void," Recommends Prosecutions for Those Who Wielded the Presidential Autopen with No Constititional Authority to Do So

House panel declares Biden's Autopen Presidency "null and void," concluding that aides with zero Constitutional authority signed pardons and executive orders without Biden's knowledge, all to preserve "the illusion of presidential authority."

In a 91-page report released Tuesday, the House Oversight Committee accused Joe Biden's inner circle of executing and concealing presidential actions without his knowledge, declaring that any orders signed through the autopen were "null and void." The Republican-led panel, chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-KY), said it uncovered evidence that senior aides used the mechanical signature device to authorize pardons, commutations, and executive directives while Biden's mental and physical decline worsened -- all to preserve "the illusion of presidential authority."
"The Biden Autopen Presidency will go down as one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history," the report stated. "As Americans saw President Biden's decline with their own eyes, his inner circle sought to deceive the public, cover up his condition, and took unauthorized executive actions that are now invalid." The committee urged the Justice Department to launch a full criminal investigation into what it called a "cover-up of historic proportions," naming several aides who invoked the Fifth Amendment when questioned about their roles. It also demanded the D.C. Board of Medicine investigate Biden's physician for allegedly hiding his true medical state.
According to the report, internal emails and documentation revealed a "haphazard process" surrounding clemency and other executive actions, with no reliable record confirming Biden's personal approval. Comer said the findings raise profound constitutional concerns. "If unelected aides were using the autopen to execute presidential powers without Joe Biden's knowledge or consent, that is an assault on the Constitution itself," he said.

Prosecute them. You say there's no specific law against this? As a black and queer woman of LGBTQ+ color, I give you the FBI.

Well not the FBI. I was doing a Hans Gruber there. (Not black queer or female, but an immigrant.)

The left has already given us the law to prosecute under. The J6 prosecutors prosecuted hundreds of people under the vague and novel premise that they were attempting a criminal "fraud against the United States of America." They claimed that anyone who did anything they didn't like were perpetrating a "fraud" on the "people of the United States.

Biden's aides clearly, really did perpetrate a fraud on the people of the United States. So let us take what I (as a black queer woman of immigrant) will call the "J6 Precedent" and imprison them all.

Posted by: Ace at 04:10 PM

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1 As a black LGBT woman, I nooded the otters.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:12 PM (LxER7)

2 Aaaaaan FIRST!!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:13 PM (LxER7)

3 "Black and Queer Woman of LGBTQ+ Color".

Muslim is just a bridge too far for our Fearless Leader.

Posted by: XTC at October 28, 2025 04:13 PM (6Uni8)

4 I was almost fustest with the mostest. And the blackest and queerest.

Posted by: Eeyore (Is, Eum) at October 28, 2025 04:13 PM (s0JqF)

5 Ace's first four posts of yesterday are all at ten minutes after the hour. I think he's taken a day gig on us.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 28, 2025 04:14 PM (XvL8K)

6
Hey, I found this US Treasury credit card. No spending limit!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2025 04:14 PM (tgvbd)

7 "Black and Queer Woman of LGBTQ+ Color".

Can I come over for short ribs?

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 28, 2025 04:14 PM (ewjUl)

8 Since yesterday, I mean.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 28, 2025 04:14 PM (XvL8K)

9 I am amused that congress and Trump are tag teaming the democrats with more and more examples of their criminality.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 28, 2025 04:14 PM (0U5gm)

10 Void the pardons of the rat fcks life Fraudci.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 28, 2025 04:15 PM (ewjUl)

11 First little fish to flip gets a "get out of jail free" card, everyone else gets the max.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:15 PM (hlNLQ)

12 It is almost like stealing the 2020 election may have consequences.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (0U5gm)

13 And so it begins.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (x7EH8)

14 Don't forget without trial and torture part of it. Deny them legal counsel, whole nine yards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (PKI1F)

15 When you are not with where a majority of Americans are that is extreme.

Posted by: KJP at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (SQhXQ)

16 Ohtani is great player.

Posted by: Accomack at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (RBD82)

17
If Joe says he authorized its use AND he passes a mental competency test, then no problem. Deal?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2025 04:16 PM (tgvbd)

18 Burn them!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (g8Ew8)

19 Hills-za-bubba wriggled out of the House inquiry to her illegal server and destruction of docs without a problem. These staffers aren't going to talk. All Biteme will have to do is issue a video statement declaring that he approved all of the autopen pardons. There's no clever thing to be had here.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (mlg/3)

20 J6 rules say arrest without charges for months. As any black lesbian of bustiness can tell you.

Posted by: Kratwurst at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (CV1nu)

21
Deny them legal counsel, whole nine yards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

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No, just tell any lawyer defending them that their career will be toast. Just like 2021-2024.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2025 04:18 PM (tgvbd)

22 18 Burn them!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (g8Ew

Do they all weigh the same as a duck?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:18 PM (LxER7)

23 Burn them!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (g8Ew

Do they all weigh the same as a duck?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:18 PM (LxER7)
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It's a fair cop.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 28, 2025 04:19 PM (x7EH8)

24 CNN informed me on this that it's all good and no big 'cause Biden said the other day he approve all the pardons.

It's under the "Opsie Clause" of the Constitution.

See? All better now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:19 PM (6EDhb)

25
The committee urged the Justice Department to launch a full criminal investigation--

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[insert Bondi comment]

I'm still on the fence about her.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:20 PM (5e+/e)

26 It's under the "Opsie Clause" of the Constitution.

See? All better now.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:19 PM

Yea, Jefferson really fcked up with the Oopsie clause.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 28, 2025 04:20 PM (ewjUl)

27 The Constitution has an Opie clause? Is there a Leon Clause, too?

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (77rzZ)

28 11 First little fish to flip gets a "get out of jail free" card, everyone else gets the max.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:15 PM (hlNLQ)

Wish we could get one but I'm skeptical

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (VE6XX)

29
Ohtani is great player.
Posted by: Accomack

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And a fox.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (5e+/e)

30 [insert Bondi comment]

I'm still on the fence about her.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:20 PM

I'd let her sit on my post. Heeyyyooo!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (ewjUl)

31 All Biteme will have to do is issue a video statement declaring that he approved all of the autopen pardons. There's no clever thing to be had here.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (mlg/3)
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AI can probably generate a Deep Fake.

No need to wake JFB from his early afternoon ~~coma~~ nap.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (IBQGV)

32 19- If I remember correctly, he’s so addled that he was unable to cut a 30 second campaign ad without multiple takes/slices, so that may be off the table. Also, not sure submission of video testimony would comport with best evidence rule, he’d have to testify and then be subject to cross.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (hlNLQ)

33 "Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!"
No, seriously; my call is to consider the pardons null (and void, to use William the Bastard's tongue)... but not to move to prosecute.
Yet. If any beneficiary of a "Biden" autopardon puts a foot wrong, arrest him in the Federal system. Don't offer bail. Hold them in a dungeon until the trial. Then add the original sentence on to the new one. It's not double-jeopardy if the original sentence still holds or the original crime was gay-pardoned.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (gKWVE)

34 House Oversight Committee Declares Biden's "Autopen Presidency" "Null and Void,"

The squealing from those who bought now worthless pardons will be epic!

"I paid $300,000.00 for a worthless piece of paper!"

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (PO1Da)

35 Pay no attention to this Trump tore down the White House !

Posted by: Your sycophant press at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (VE6XX)

36 Woodrow Wilson's wife, "autopen?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (oOa2w)

37 The Constitution has an Opie clause? Is there a Leon Clause, too?
Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:21 PM (77rzZ)
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Dunno, but I'm pretty sure there's an Otis the Drunk clause.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (x7EH8)

38 They're putting new siding on the house across the street. It's fascinating to watch.

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

39 ... basically what Krat said, except that we do have the charges in my scheme, and can go ahead and tack on the gay-pardoned charges too.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (gKWVE)

40 All Biteme will have to do is issue a video statement declaring that he approved all of the autopen pardons. There's no clever thing to be had here.
Posted by: weft cut-

Then list the girst ten in order. Hell, I'll make it easy.
List just the last ten in order.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (PO1Da)

41
ChristyBlinky and Donna,

I laugh about how long the three of us have been married because we've been married longer than the age of a lot of the commenters here.

Posted by: fourseasons at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (3ek7K)

42 "I paid $300,000.00 for a worthless piece of paper!"
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 28, 2025 04:22 PM (PO1Da)
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"#MeToo!" -- Gender Studies Majors everywhere

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (IBQGV)

43 Give Trump a free 3rd term and another for a Vance to be named later.

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (FhXTo)

44 "Everybody else was doing it, so it's OK."

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (vbXSk)

45 Joe Biden's whole life has been a fraud. He should have quit while he was ahead back in 2016, but like most frauds he just couldn't stop himself. Joe Biden is the democrat party; A wretched, spiteful, straight-razor totin' fraud.

Posted by: Zombie Tony Joe White at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (R/m4+)

46 ChristyBlinky and Donna,

I laugh about how long the three of us have been married because we've been married longer than the age of a lot of the commenters here.

Posted by: fourseasons at October 28, 2025 04:23 PM (3ek7K)

This is true... And they can all get off my lawn

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (VE6XX)

47
Amen Donna

Posted by: fourseasons at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (3ek7K)

48 Ow, my balls.

Posted by: Joe Biden, Cancer Warrior, Hero at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (UjdFS)

49 Meanwhile the Twitterati are melting down from two memes posted by this administration.

First is from the White House of Trump as the Masterchief saying "Power to the Players."

Second one is from DHS showing a Spartan manning the gun on a Warthog with the Halo arcing up into the background sky which says "Fight the Flood"

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2025 04:25 PM (oOa2w)

50 So who got all the bribe money for the pardons? Maybe check a few bank accounts?

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen of AK at October 28, 2025 04:25 PM (urtE/)

51 Problem is, all the crimes were committed in DC. If you tried to prosecute, they'd all walk free and DC judges would probably throw the prosectors in jail instead.

Find a jurisdiction outside of a blue hellhole where someone committed one of these crimes to have any shot.

Posted by: can of spam at October 28, 2025 04:26 PM (14gFN)

52
Congress needs to define this shit by law. Me, I'd say all exercises of Article II power by the president require his actual physical signature, and no autopens or other proxies allowed.

Now, they might want to allow for some sort of "electronic signature" under emergency circumstances (like nuclear attack, or other dire situations) and define some procedure for that. LIke the nuclear codes, where POTUS has to enter codes to "sign".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 04:26 PM (w6EFb)

53 >> The left has already given us the law to prosecute under. The J6 prosecutors prosecuted hundreds of people under the vague and novel premise that they were attempting a criminal "fraud against the United States of America." They claimed that anyone who did anything they didn't like were perpetrating a "fraud" on the "people of the United States.

I don’t think liberals know how deeply their lawfare and corruption of the courts has cut most normal Americans. That was real, third-world authoritarian garbage and along with COVID brought most people’s fears about government to life. The Democrat Party has become an anachronism to a plurality of Americans, a throwback to bygone days of yore before democratic systems were established and anarchy reigned. Consequently, nobody wants them in power.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2025 04:26 PM (Oy+3b)

54
The Rogue's Gallery of fraudsters includes none other than LGBTQ Black woman Latrine John-Pissoir.

I joke you not, her opening statement:

"I served as the 35th White House press secretary, becoming the first black person, immigrant, and openly queer person to serve in that role."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (5e+/e)

55 45 Joe Biden's whole life has been a fraud. He should have quit while he was ahead back in 2016, but like most frauds he just couldn't stop himself. Joe Biden is the democrat party; A wretched, spiteful, straight-razor totin' fraud.
Posted by: Zombie Tony Joe White at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (R/m4+)

A gear-grinding, double-clutching, son of a bitch. At least, that's what my cousin would call him...

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen of AK at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (urtE/)

56
Biden's aides clearly, really did perpetrate a fraud on the people of the United States. So let us take what I (as a black queer woman of immigrant) will call the "J6 Precedent" and imprison them all.

I've been saying that for a while now ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (xG4kz)

57 Biden's aides may have carried it out but I don't doubt for a second this was all Obama. Biden's term was really Obama's 3rd, when he could do the really destructive things he always wanted to do and let Biden take the blame.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (viF8m)

58
So who got all the bribe money for the pardons? Maybe check a few bank accounts?
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen of AK

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One of life's little mysteries. Like how a governor wins $1.4 million in Vegas. Or the stock of three-bedroom houses in Norfolk going for $137,000.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (tgvbd)

59 52- probably outside Congress’ purview under separation of powers doctrine.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (hlNLQ)

60 Indict.
Try.
Convict.
PUNISH.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (wtvvX)

61 Remember:
- No one is above the law
- No kings

Also:
- of course we support concealing the unnamed, unelected staffers who issued blanket pardons

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (6EDhb)

62 As a Woman of Color of the Opposite Sex I disagree with challenging President Joe (Dunsel) Biden and the autopen abused by Hunter and Jill during his reign of terror.

Furthermore, I call on Senator AOC from NY to launch an investigation into this matter by telling Schumer what to do.

Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (J9q9v)

63 House Oversight Committee Declares Biden's "Autopen Presidency" "Null and Void," Recommends Prosecutions for Those Who Wielded the Presidential Autopen with No Constititional Authority to Do So
—Ace
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And we have a fully armed and operational DOJ to get that done!

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (krQz2)

64 There is no way the courts especially SCOTUS is going to touch the auto pen scandal, never going to happen.

It is going to be ignored and flushed out of the court system if anyone files a lawsuit over anything that biden did as president.

After all the courts will just come back and say.....hey you have the 25th amendment why didn't you try and use it. They are not gonna touch this.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 28, 2025 04:28 PM (0N4FZ)

65 Biden was installed in a fraudulent election. That’s not a fairytale. It’s not hyperbole. It’s demonstrably true.

I’m not sure why anyone is surprised at what followed.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2025 04:29 PM (Oy+3b)

66 They're putting new siding on the house across the street. It's fascinating to watch.
Posted by: Bulg
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Are they putting on the vinyl siding that you never have to paint?

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2025 04:29 PM (UjdFS)

67 I'm just a sassy Hispanic lesbian, but even I like this idea.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at October 28, 2025 04:29 PM (FqkvB)

68 In before the "nothing will happen" crowd ... AND they're probably right.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 28, 2025 04:29 PM (SXbui)

69
Note it was Barky who first used the autopen to sign legislation. The Shrub considered it after 9/11 and had the legal counsel look into. They concluded it was kinda sorta probably okay, but they never did it. It was Barky who first did it.

Before that, no president had ever used the autopen for official acts of presidential power.

The autopen was just used for shit like, oh the President sending a letter commending Gladys Kravitz on her years of service on the Ladies Auxiliary and other non-official shit like that, like Christmas cards and all that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (w6EFb)

70 House panel declares Biden's Autopen Presidency "null and void," concluding that aides with zero Constitutional authority signed pardons and executive orders without Biden's knowledge, all to preserve "the illusion of presidential authority."
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!!

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

71 >>Biden was installed in a fraudulent election.

Also Obama.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (viF8m)

72 So for the next three years at least as the Trump DoJ brings charges and prosecutions against these vile scofflaws, we will get to see the Democrat propaganda arm try and spin it all in a positive light.

May need more popcorn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (oOa2w)

73 Are they putting on the vinyl siding that you never have to paint?
Posted by: wth

Don't know. They've just got particleboard and some wood up now, and now they're covering it with Tyvek. No actual siding yet.

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

74 48 Ow, my balls.
Posted by: Joe Biden, Cancer Warrior, Hero at October 28, 2025 04:24 PM (UjdFS)

So, my dad was not treated for his rampant prostate cancer that had been in remission for a good 25 years before the clot shot turned it loose again. The reason the hospital gave was that he was old and non-compos-mentis, since he couldn't remember who the president was and didn't know what year it was. Of course, that couldn't possibly be because he was bleeding from the cancer invading his bladder, could it?

Meanwhile this waste of air Biden gets gold-plated cancer treatment even though his brain has been Swiss cheese for a decade or more.

I really can't loathe the Bidens any more than I already do. I'm not allowed to wish bad things happen to him upon pain of mortal sin, but I really wish he would just go the fuck away.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen of AK at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (urtE/)

75 Would Hans be a legal or illegal immigrant? Clearly illegal would qualify for the victimhood Olympics.

Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 04:31 PM (G0vdT)

76 I served as the 35th White House press secretary, becoming the first black person, immigrant, and openly queer person to serve in that role."

That is such weird terminology: "Openly queer"
"I like you to know I'm openly queer"

You're queer alright . In addition to being gay,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2025 04:31 PM (IeCgc)

77 Ohtani is great player.

Dive bomber or torpedo bomber?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 28, 2025 04:31 PM (swwFr)

78 I wish that Matt Gaetz had stayed in the arena to become AG. Don't think Bondi has the stuff to do the job that needs to be done. Pretty sure Gaetz would.

Posted by: Gavin Newscum at October 28, 2025 04:31 PM (xvV+O)

79 Biden was the Kenyan Candidate installed to do what Comrade Soetoro told his aides that Biden should do....

Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 04:31 PM (J9q9v)

80 My prediction?

Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at October 28, 2025 04:32 PM (vFG9F)

81 Val or Judy Ohtami?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 28, 2025 04:32 PM (oOa2w)

82 Biden's aides clearly, really did perpetrate a fraud on the people of the United States. So let us take what I (as a black queer woman of immigrant) will call the "J6 Precedent" and imprison them all.
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And anyone they wrote to or talked with.

Posted by: Gavin Newscum at October 28, 2025 04:32 PM (xvV+O)

83 Note that Hunter got his pardon signed by Joe directly.

He's smaht that way, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 28, 2025 04:32 PM (dtajH)

84 Don't know. They've just got particleboard and some wood up now, and now they're covering it with Tyvek. No actual siding yet.
Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

Just FYI, Tyvek is the worst waste of money. Old fashioned tar paper works better, lasts longer, and is cheaper by a factor of about 10.

I pulled tar paper off the wood sheathing of a house built in 1914 and the wood looked pristine, like it had just been milled.

I pulled Tyvek off a shed and it was covered in mold and torn and worthless.

YMMV.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen of AK at October 28, 2025 04:33 PM (urtE/)

85 This should fire up the protesting and screaming!

GOOD!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 28, 2025 04:33 PM (j5WMt)

86 Like how a governor wins $1.4 million in Vegas"

See that he loses it in this casino!

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:33 PM (tubbA)

87 as a black queer woman of immigrant
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Ace is claiming Raggedly Karinge's trifecta status?

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (krQz2)

88 I'm just a sassy Hispanic lesbian, but even I like this idea.
Posted by: Rando Calrissian

Muy cliente! En fuego!

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (PO1Da)

89 57 Biden's aides may have carried it out but I don't doubt for a second this was all Obama. Biden's term was really Obama's 3rd, when he could do the really destructive things he always wanted to do and let Biden take the blame.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:27

This! And I believe he's worried about being next on Trump's list because he keeps going to London and the internet rumors are he has to have meetings in person so no one can spy on him and his co conspirators

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (77W69)

90 In before the "nothing will happen" crowd ... AND they're probably right.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 28, 2025 04:29 PM (SXbui)

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"Probably." I like your optimism.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (DRSnL)

91
Somebody mentioned Woodrow Wilson. This has been a problem with us for a while. The 25th Amendment is wholly unable to handle a situation like this where POTUS is la-dee-dah, and his aides, including the VP, go along with a Weekend at Bernie's conspiracy.

Something needs to be done about that. I don't know what. I can see anything being used by partisan Democrats to constantly accuse Republican presidents of being incapacitated and demanding tests and all that.

But some mechanism needs to be there for people to go to jail right quick if they cover up POTUS being brain dead.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (w6EFb)

92 The beauty of prosecuting is that eventually they have to interview Biden with him answering with "huh?", "I don't remember", and "is it time for ice cream?"

Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (G0vdT)

93
So for the next three years at least as the Trump DoJ brings charges and prosecutions against these vile scofflaws, we will get to see the Democrat propaganda arm try and spin it all in a positive light.

May need more popcorn.
Posted by: Anna Puma

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Oversight Committee "demanded" "IMMEDIATE" (they uppercased it) action by the DOJ. In American Justice time, that would be this time next year at the earliest?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (5e+/e)

94 This is something that always bothered me about the Edith Wilson shadow presidency, the selection of Hadrian as Trajans successor by his wife. The movie Dave.

It is a subversion of the way the system is supposed to work. In the two US examples, the people selected one person, but someone else was making the decisions- just like here.

It seems to be one of those things that separates me from a progressive. They seem to love the idea of MS Wilson, I think it's horrifying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (zZu0s)

95 Like how a governor wins $1.4 million in Vegas"

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:33 PM (tubbA)
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No emoluments there!

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (krQz2)

96 As a black and queer woman of LGBTQ+ color with extra EBT cardzzzz, I commend the GOP for pretending to care about the crimes committed by the autopenisers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2025 04:34 PM (n5tGW)

97 80- I think what’s refreshingly different about Trump V2.0 is that things have and are actually happening and promises made are being kept. I expect he is, and will remain an adherent of the philosophy that the best defense is a good offense.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (hlNLQ)

98 Most if not all Auto-Pen signatures were by staffers

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (+qU29)

99 Well not the FBI. I was doing a Hans Gruber there. (Not black queer or female, but an immigrant.)

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Isn't it time we had a "The Hard" (SWIDT?) #Woke Reboot featuring a Black Tranny Lesbian German character named Gretel Gruber?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (SXbui)

100 The problem is proving Biden didn't give them permission to use his signature. Proving a negative is hard.

Posted by: Socratease at October 28, 2025 04:36 PM (YgfoU)

101 Sorry I missed the Scott Weiner post, and thanks Ace for exposing this pervert.

I feel like I've been shouting about him for awhile with no one listening.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 28, 2025 04:36 PM (A6iMD)

102 Autopen is but a facsimile of a real signature. Might as well be a rubberstamp or a jpeg printed with the rest of the document.

Autopen use is primarily ceremonial - 100th birthday, holiday cards, military retirement, etc. for signing bills into law or pardons?! It's be easier to get El Presidente to sign the real deal than multiple MFRs authorizing some clerk to use your rubberstamp.

Any El Presidente sig that is not by his hand and wet ink is presumably falsied. Like anybody else's sig. The only question is who forged it?

People who used it w/o authorization are most certainly committing fraud.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:36 PM (/lPRQ)

103 Most if not all Auto-Pen signatures were by staffers

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (+qU29)
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I.e. people who worked on Joe's staff.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:37 PM (krQz2)

104 Isn't it time we had a "The Hard" (SWIDT?) #Woke Reboot featuring a Black Tranny Lesbian German character named Gretel Gruber?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (SXbui)

They did one with Daisy Ridley (from the star wars sequels) where she is a janitor, but also a former spec ops person.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:37 PM (zZu0s)

105 >>> 99 Well not the FBI. I was doing a Hans Gruber there. (Not black queer or female, but an immigrant.)

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Isn't it time we had a "The Hard" (SWIDT?) #Woke Reboot featuring a Black Tranny Lesbian German character named Gretel Gruber?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 28, 2025 04:35 PM (SXbui)

How dare you!!!

Posted by: Greta T. at October 28, 2025 04:37 PM (ULPxl)

106 Was it 'The Cleaner'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:37 PM (zZu0s)

107 There's another word for what they did:

Treason.

Florence, CO may be getting a big boost in population, soon.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2025 04:38 PM (oraVG)

108
Yep, the courts, including the Supreme Court wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. THis is crazy, and unprecedented. The notion of having to "undo" previous actions like this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 04:38 PM (w6EFb)

109 So for the next three years at least as the Trump DoJ brings charges and prosecutions against these vile scofflaws, we will get to see the Democrat propaganda arm try and spin it all in a positive light.

Then: No one is above the law

Now: You can investigate members of the opposition party. That's against the good n'plenties clause!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:38 PM (sKqQm)

110 This! And I believe he's worried about being next on Trump's list because he keeps going to London and the internet rumors are he has to have meetings in person so no one can spy on him and his co conspirators

Posted by: CaliGirl

Probably meeting with Tony Blair, who did the same thing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 28, 2025 04:38 PM (0U5gm)

111 Sooo... past 100 sooo...

The government is now shut down, and will not pay benefits or pay.... to troops deployed overseas even...

For a Continuing Resolution that only funds the Government for another THREE FUCKIN WEEKS.

This bill expires 21 November.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:38 PM (mP0Kj)

112 people who worked on Joe's staff."

So, phrasing is right out now?

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (tubbA)

113 "I served as the 35th White House press secretary, becoming the first black person, immigrant, and openly queer person to serve in that role."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (5e+/e)
________________________________

No one is "black". There are different shades of brown relative to skin color. This is dependent upon the amount of melanin within the dermal layers. Secondly, the word "queer" means "strange", or "odd". This could be true, but a baseline of the opposite must first be set down. Karine Jean-Pierre may, indeed, be "queer" depending upon what the social norms consider normal. Finally, Karine Jean-Pierre is a US citizen. Therefore, she is not an immigrant. An "immigrant" is defined as a person who moves to a new country with the intention of settling there permanently. Karine Jean-Pierre as a US citizen is not, to my knowledge, currently looking to move to a new country permanently. In the past, she was, indeed, and immigrant. Now she is a citizen. This does not exclude her from becoming an immigrant once again, and we encourage her to do so.

Posted by: Minister of Misinformation, and locksmith at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (dIske)

114 Why hasn't Hunter Biden been charged in state court yet?

We have video of him with underage girls. Those videos almost certainly have geolocation on. Yes if it was all in CA or NY they won't prosecute but no victims in FL?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (sKqQm)

115 The CBC is already worried about the weaponization of the US justice system as evil Orange Man Bad goes after all of his political enemies.

I'd love to set them 'straight', but life's too short. Damn, I wish they were defunded.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (Sco7b)

116 All they have to do is wheel Biden out on one of those hand trucks used to transport Hannibel Lecter and he can say forthrightly that he personally authorized the use of the autopen.

Posted by: Lady in Black, speaking as a black LGBT woman at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (qBdHI)

117 I saw a pair of sister models from Africa. One woman has jet black skin and her sister is an albino so she's very very white.

A very interesting contrast when they pose together.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (sKqQm)

118 People who used it w/o authorization are most certainly committing fraud.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:36 PM (/lPRQ)
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I think the courts will probably decide that it's up to the President to delegate that.

The President is the "Chief Prosecutor" (prosecution *is* an executive function), but he delegates that to the DoJ. He's the "Chief Cop", but he delegates that to the FIB as well.

All executive authority is *vested* in the President. The ACA assigns the decisions on healthcare to the "Secretary of Health and Human Services", but I doubt that such a secretary could argue in court that that is their discretion alone.

I think they are going to allow a lot of leeway on this.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (krQz2)

119 112 people who worked on Joe's staff."

So, phrasing is right out now?
Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (tubbA)

My favorite is a supposed spokesman for Joe who told the House under oath he only saw him twice... And once was just in passing....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (VE6XX)

120 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 28, 2025 04:36 PM (/lPRQ)

Yeah.... I was given a letter from Bill Clinton celebrating my retirement from the Navy...

Supposedly signed by Bill... THIS IS WHAT AUTOPEN IS FOR.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (mP0Kj)

121 I've posted before about how TrumpCo is building the mother of all RICO cases, with spin-offs. Musk and Surfer Girl Tulsi started it by data mining the NSA Vault using the latest AI.

The point is total exposure, convictions optional. It will be end of the Left and the D party as we've known it.

Let us pray!

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (dtajH)

122 Supposedly there is proof Sundowner wasn't where these signatures took place and could have signed them.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (+qU29)

123 The government is now shut down"

Still collecting taxes?

Yeah.

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (tubbA)

124 CNN Breaking News....

Recently discovered video released showing the incompetence of the Biden Adminstration.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2beJKmdbgs

Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (J9q9v)

125 By the way, all I want for Christmas are Joe Biden's AutoPen and several blank cheques from all of his slush fund accounts.

I'm easy that way.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (Sco7b)

126 As a black queer trans woman auto pen I demand that these bastards be prosecuted under the rule that this nation is not ruled by a politburo. No Politburos! No Politburos! No Politburos!

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (uv8gn)

127 >>Oversight Committee "demanded" "IMMEDIATE" (they uppercased it) action by the DOJ. In American Justice time, that would be this time next year at the earliest?

Maybe sooner.

>>@AGPamBondi
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>>4h
My team has already initiated a review of the Biden administration’s reported use of autopen for pardons.

>>@RepJamesComer’s new information is extremely helpful, and his leadership on this issue is invaluable. We’ll continue working with @GOPoversight
to deliver accountability for the American people.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (viF8m)

128 The CBC is already worried about the weaponization of the US justice system as evil Orange Man Bad goes after all of his political enemies.

I remember when Obama arrested a Russian woman for being involved in American RKBA politics. See, she was a foreign citizen and that's "election interference"

I want this standard to be applied to every Euro-nik and Chinese citizen that have had any political involved in the US.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (sKqQm)

129 All they have to do is wheel Biden out on one of those hand trucks used to transport Hannibel Lecter and he can say forthrightly that he personally authorized the use of the autopen.
Posted by: Lady in Black, speaking as a black LGBT woman at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (qBdHI)
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Exactly.

And perhaps, he can even say that he delegated that authority to the people who worked on his staff.

It's a reason we shouldn't dawdle so much to use the 25th amendment.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (krQz2)

130 Arrest and charge a person who got a pardon. Let that person argue the pardon and then the DoJ can argue the pardon wasn't done by Biden. Lots of experts

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (BLGhW)

131 It's pretty simple to have each prez put a little "auto" or "ap" under his sig when its set up, but I guess if there are people who don't care about constitutional correctness it wouldn't really be a thing. But if its not corrected somehow, it will happen again, you'll have 43 staffers acting as unelected presidents.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (n5tGW)

132 spokesman for Joe who told the House under oath he only saw him twice... And once was just in passing...."

Down in Joe's Garage?

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (tubbA)

133
The other figures in that Rogues' Gallery:

Andrew Bates, Former Senior Deputy Press Secretary

Anita Dunn, Well-Known Bitch

Ashley Williams, Who Cares What Her Position Was She's A Woman of Color

Bruce Reed, Former Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy

Ian Sams, Former Spokesman for the President (how many speakers and representatives and secretaries and comms people are there?!)

Jeffrey Zients, Former White House Chief of Staff

Michael Donilon, Former Senior Advisor to the President

Neera Tanden, All-Around Bitch

Ron Klain, Liar

Steve Ricchetti, Fixer

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (5e+/e)

134 All executive authority is *vested* in the President. The ACA assigns the decisions on healthcare to the "Secretary of Health and Human Services", but I doubt that such a secretary could argue in court that that is their discretion alone.

I think they are going to allow a lot of leeway on this.
Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:40 PM (krQz2)

but the Pardon power is the President's, and President's alone.... just like the Prezzy is not supposed to be able to delegate the signing of laws.

And it would seem that to even use the Autopen on things like Pardons, you would need express permission delegated to you, in writing, to use the autopen to do so...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (mP0Kj)

135 No one is "black". There are different shades of brown relative to skin color.

My brother-in-law was at a meeting at work once with men from various African countries. He said it was fascinating to see the variations in skin pigment among them.

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (77rzZ)

136 I remember when Obama arrested a Russian woman for being involved in American RKBA politics. See, she was a foreign citizen and that's "election interference"

I want this standard to be applied to every Euro-nik and Chinese citizen that have had any political involved in the US.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (sKqQm)
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Remember when Dems wanted Russian companies convicted for spending ~ 100K $ on various ambiguous fakebook ads?

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:44 PM (krQz2)

137 As a black, disabled,blind, mute, albino POC and a lesbian who sups from the furry cup, I approve this message.

Wait what?

Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at October 28, 2025 04:44 PM (bgJ0E)

138 Leftovers from the last thread:

https://happymuncher.com/stuffed-salmon-recipes/

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 28, 2025 04:44 PM (ZVgZ4)

139 Arrest and charge a person who got a pardon. Let that person argue the pardon and then the DoJ can argue the pardon wasn't done by Biden. Lots of experts

Yep, make the courts excuse Fauci and co are arguing "it doesn't matter if he is guiltily, Biden pardoned them"

And then play that on repeat for election '26

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:44 PM (sKqQm)

140 And it would seem that to even use the Autopen on things like Pardons, you would need express permission delegated to you, in writing, to use the autopen to do so...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:43 PM (mP0Kj)
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I would like to see it reined in like that.

There's just no guarantee that they are going to see it that way.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:45 PM (krQz2)

141
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:42 PM (viF8m)

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She's initiated a review? Okay. Next step: she completes the review. Let's meet up here again when that happens.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:45 PM (5e+/e)

142 When does Trump meet with Long Duck Dong?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (BBIP1)

143

That ratfaced m'fer Fauci should be in prison.

What he did to our country is unforgiveable.

Posted by: four seasons at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (3ek7K)

144 Hills-za-bubba wriggled out of the House inquiry to her illegal server and destruction of docs without a problem. These staffers aren't going to talk. All Biteme will have to do is issue a video statement declaring that he approved all of the autopen pardons. There's no clever thing to be had here.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2025 04:17 PM (mlg/3)

There is a chain of permission to use the autopen. It is really hard to say "oops, got shredded" for this sort of thing. Chances are the guy running it will get crucified unless he can shift the blame to someone else.

It may prove, who knows I am not a lawyer and I don't sleep at motel 6 anymore, difficult to say No More Kings and also say Biden Was In Essence A King and Only Had To Wave His Imperial Hand To Create Law

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (rbvCR)

145 142 When does Trump meet with Long Duck Dong?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (BBIP1)

On Thursday...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (VE6XX)

146 So this means means Fauci's in play for prosecution?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (uv8gn)

147 The Donger needs food!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2025 04:46 PM (n5tGW)

148 Biden says the committee claims are false:

Former President Joe Biden, in an interview with the New York Times published on Sunday, said that he personally made every clemency and pardon decision during the last few weeks of his presidency -- including those made with an autopen.

Given he has addressed this specifically, I don't see how the pardons and commutations can be declared null and void.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 04:47 PM (MHixg)

149 The CBC is already worried about the weaponization of the US justice system as evil Orange Man Bad goes after all of his political enemies.

--

The saying goes...if they didn't commit any crimes, they should have nothing to worry about. Welcome your anal exams. The ones you put Trump and many of his staff through during his first term.

Posted by: Lady in Black, speaking as a black LGBT woman at October 28, 2025 04:47 PM (qBdHI)

150 The Donger needs food!/i]

THE DONGER IS ABOUT TO DIE

Posted by: Gauntlet at October 28, 2025 04:48 PM (sKqQm)

151 The Donger needs food!

--

Heh. Mr. Black says that sometimes when he's hungry.

Posted by: Lady in Black, speaking as a black LGBT woman at October 28, 2025 04:48 PM (qBdHI)

152
How can Latrine John-Pissoir say this in testimony, even as an immigrant Black LGBTQ woman of color?

"in those four years that I worked with him, he was able to accomplish a lot and he was more than capable of doing the job and got things done uh in those four years. And we used to say this all the time that most presidents couldn't get done in their first two terms."

Moreover, an LGBTQ woman of color that is BIPOC and Lesbian from another country and female.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:48 PM (5e+/e)

153 people who worked on Joe's staff."

So, phrasing is right out now?
Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:39 PM (tubbA)
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I invite the call of phrasing about people who worked on Joe's staff.

I just wonder if that includes Kamala, who has long years of expertise working on various staffs.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:48 PM (krQz2)

154 OT but applies to last thread - from Zerohedge...

"States Receiving the Most Funding

SNAP funding totaled more than $7.8 billion in May 2025, the last month for which data is available.

Nearly half of all SNAP funds went to 7 large-population states in the month of May.

California drew the largest share at more than $1 billion in federal funding—about 13 percent of the total.

New York received $647 million, and Texas received $614 million. The next highest amounts went to Florida, $536 million; Illinois, $368 million; Pennsylvania, $368 million; and Ohio, $356 million.

Those states together received 49 percent of the food assistance benefit for May 2025, and they served about 49 percent of those receiving benefits.

Total spending for SNAP reached $99.8 billion in fiscal year 2024."

Posted by: Nova Local at October 28, 2025 04:48 PM (tOcjL)

155 123 The government is now shut down"

Still collecting taxes?

Yeah.
Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (tubbA)

Your taxes do not go to the Government, they go to the Federal Reserve, who has a government account, which the Government draws upon to pay for shit...

Which is why they can deficit spend...

Funny how the Fed Bank was created in 1913, right after the Income tax was made legal in 1912. What a CO Ink e dink!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:49 PM (mP0Kj)

156

Biden didn't know when he shit himself until someone smelled it.

I don't believe he knew anything that was going on.

Posted by: four seasons at October 28, 2025 04:49 PM (3ek7K)

157 Missed the Scott Weiner thread.

What he''s most famous for back when he was an SF Supervisor was passing the law making public nudity completely legal, resulting in out-and-out flamboyant perverts walking around naked with cock rings on the streets of SF, intentionally flapping their dicks in the faces of passing children, even children escorted by parents.

The city was OK with that, but even the hipsters had to protest when the naked dudes started going to restaurants and sitting with their disgusting ass-cracks on restaurant seats, leaving AIDS-infected skid marks everywhere. So the law was, after a while, quietly abandoned.

But that just goes to show you how unhinged Scott Weiner really is.

Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2025 04:49 PM (oraVG)

158 The Donger needs food!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

There's always the Donger Party.

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)

159

Kamala liked working on many staffs, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at October 28, 2025 04:50 PM (3ek7K)

160 Continued from Zerohedge
"On average, about 12 percent of Americans receive SNAP benefits. In some states, that percentage is much higher. These states stand to lose fewer federal dollars, but the impact could be greater, affecting a relatively larger share of their population.

Sixteen states and the District of Columbia have higher-than-average participation in SNAP.

Of those, New Mexico has the highest rate, with 21 percent of its 2.1 million people receiving food assistance. The District of Columbia is next with 20 percent of its 700,000 residents participating in SNAP. Oregon is next with 18 percent participation, followed by Louisiana and Oklahoma at 17 percent each.

About 15 percent of the population receives SNAP benefits in West Virginia, Nevada, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New York, Illinois, and Michigan."

Posted by: Nova Local at October 28, 2025 04:50 PM (tOcjL)

161 The saying goes...if they didn't commit any crimes, they should have nothing to worry about. Welcome your anal exams. The ones you put Trump and many of his staff through during his first term.
Posted by: Lady in Black, speaking as a black LGBT woman at October 28, 2025 04:47 PM (qBdHI)

Exactly!

They are ignoring all the hell these people intentionally put Trump through.

I visit a few liberal websites like Deadline. It still makes me laugh to see people talking about the 969 time convicted felon. Idiots. Not breeding is a good choice for them....

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at October 28, 2025 04:50 PM (Sco7b)

162 Cute; never will happen; not in my lifetime....

Posted by: pahound at October 28, 2025 04:50 PM (8iZMS)

163
Q: Did you ever see President Biden yell?

A: Not that I recall specifically.

Like, the President of the United States, and my boss, might have yelled, might not have. I don't recall.

Reminds me of that Stephanie Lazar testimony.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 04:50 PM (5e+/e)

164 End the Autopen.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 28, 2025 04:51 PM (sVOFR)

165 If I was the Auto-Pen, I'd be filling out my emigration forms for any Country that refuses extradition to the US.

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 04:51 PM (OuEQR)

166 I’ll withhold my excitement until people are in leg irons.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 28, 2025 04:51 PM (eZwyX)

167 "AIDS-infected skid marks"

Harsh but fair.

Posted by: connected and litigious at October 28, 2025 04:51 PM (s9EN2)

168 Make Scott Wiener the Face of the Democrat Party. Make him House Minority Leader.

LOL

Posted by: no one at October 28, 2025 04:51 PM (W7XSX)

169 Biden's aides may have carried it out but I don't doubt for a second this was all Obama. Biden's term was really Obama's 3rd, when he could do the really destructive things he always wanted to do and let Biden take the blame.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:27 PM (viF8m)

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We must not forget that Biden was perfectly happy to go along with this arrangement as long as his family got richer. He was and still is the nastiest piece of work I have seen in a while.

Posted by: Decaf at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (unUNN)

170 President Autopen was a disaster.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (kTd/k)

171 These guys really hate the Constitution. A presidential pardon cannot be undone. They're just making useless noise to rile up and distract their base.

Did Trump hand sign pardons for 1500 J6 terrorists? And even the EOs he signs are unprecedented. Every other president signing an order explained it to the press, because it's THEIR order. They wrote it. Trump is the only to have OTHERS explain the orders to him, because they're not his.

"the report does not point to a specific incident in which the investigators could demonstrate the autopen was used without Biden’s authorization." So they're lying. That committee should be brought up on charges, but so should the insurgent doj they report to.

It's not about autopen. It's about challenging the pardon process. When a legit investigation into Trump begins, republicans will compare it with the shit-show they're performing now. "See, the democrats are doing Benny Hill, too!"

They're claiming that Biden's cognitive decline and a lack of a decision making paper trail makes these commutations and pardons null...Not the autopen itself.

Which is FUCKING RICH coming from THIS administration

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (JCZqz)

172 naked dudes started going to restaurants and sitting with their disgusting ass-cracks on restaurant seats, leaving AIDS-infected skid marks everywhere"

A genuine Michelin Star experience!

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (tubbA)

173 Sure Biden is gonna say he okayed all the pardons... Is he gonna tell the truth ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (VE6XX)

174 Why the hell are you people worried about unimportant things like who stole my car pen?!? Do you realize the man that keep shitting in my depends still roams free?!?

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (sKqQm)

175 I think the courts will probably decide that it's up to the President to delegate that.
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This would also be the same courts that are currently saying the President can't delegate his prosecutorial powers on an interim basis until Congress approves the person.

So yeah, fuck those guys--I'm sick and tired of their "but when Trump does it" Rule.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (6EDhb)

176 Supposedly there is proof Sundowner wasn't where these signatures took place and could have signed them.
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2025 04:41 PM (+qU29)
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A good test would be to find such a case, revoke the pardon/commutation claiming fraud, and throw the culprit back in the clink. That should stir things up.

Posted by: mrp at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (rj6Yv)

177 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

178 Your taxes do not go to the Government, they go to the Federal Reserve, who has a government account, which the Government draws upon to pay for shit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 04:49 PM (mP0Kj
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Taxes are paid to the Treasury, not the Federal Reserve.

In fact, they are so separated that the Treasury Department refuses to use the Fed for check electronification. The system used by every bank in America to clear checks electronically, as is required by law, is NOT used by the Treasury. They have their own system. Weird, but true.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 04:53 PM (MHixg)

179 I am lead to understand that there is a Federal Grand Jury being empaneled to look into the FBI and the Mar-A-Lago raid.

Moar popcorn.

Posted by: no one at October 28, 2025 04:53 PM (W7XSX)

180 Maybe they'll string up the doc. Make him the scapegoat and mastermind who fooled them all about Joe.

But that is as far as it will go, if even that far. It can go no further. The Biden Administration represents what is in fact a fully-developed and catastrophic legitimacy crisis. He wasn't there. His politburo was running things while pretending that the boss was calling the shots.

If it goes any further than scapegoating a phony mastermind, it will force an acknowledgment of the illegitimacy of that entire period, and force a serious legal consideration of what to do about the fact that every single act and law was flatly illegal and *must* be repealed.

A crisis of that magnitude will *not* be risked. For any reason. The most we will get is a scapegoat, and probably not even that. The stakes are simply too high.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (CgKt6)

181 Meanwhile the Twitterati are melting down from two memes posted by this administration.

Gaming “journalists” are the maddest, because everything he’s doing now is in part because of Gamergate. Which is hilarious.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (3cXfB)

182 I stroke it to the east
And I stroke it to the west
And I stroke it to the woman that I love the best
I be strokin'

I have no idea why this song is in my head. I was making homemade chicken noodle soup for Hubbymayhem (he's a bit under the weather) and suddenly Clarence Carter was telling me about his sex life. Weird.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (2J/Lj)

183 Sure Biden is gonna say he okayed all the pardons... Is he gonna tell the truth ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (VE6XX)
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Doesn't matter that he is obviously lying, the courts will defer to his claim (as they should).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (MHixg)

184 148- again, best evidence rule, what the reporter says he said is classic hearsay and not subject to any exceptions, he’d have to make the same statement, under oath, with specificity, and subject to cross.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (hlNLQ)

185 This would also be the same courts that are currently saying the President can't delegate his prosecutorial powers on an interim basis until Congress approves the person.

So yeah, fuck those guys--I'm sick and tired of their "but when Trump does it" Rule.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:52 PM (6EDhb)
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Your hatred of sophist courts is shared.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (krQz2)

186 figure out who shot Kennedy, yet?

Posted by: pahound at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (8iZMS)

187 Ahhhh. Fresh blood for HellRaiser American flag.

Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (EyfuW)

188 A crisis of that magnitude will *not* be risked. For any reason. The most we will get is a scapegoat, and probably not even that. The stakes are simply too high.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:54 PM (CgKt6)
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Agree.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (MHixg)

189 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:
http://tiny.cc/o5cu001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (CgKt6)

190 How many gaming journalists can there be left outside of ewetub? It seems like all the outlets keep shutting down. Hell, last week it was the gamer?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (zZu0s)

191 It seems Jimmy Kimmel could build a humorous skit around president Autopen.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (kTd/k)

192 Biden says the committee claims are false:

Former President Joe Biden, in an interview with the New York Times published on Sunday, said that he personally made every clemency and pardon decision during the last few weeks of his presidency -- including those made with an autopen.
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Given he has addressed this specifically, I don't see how the pardons and commutations can be declared null and void.
---
Well yeah, it's a long-standing Rule of Law that yelling "I meant to pay for it!" after you get caught shoplifting legally means you did, in fact, pay for the items before you left the store.

Read the Constitution, you duffus--it's the "Oopsie Clause."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (6EDhb)

193 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's an elf.

Posted by: Some Conspiracy Theorist at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (sKqQm)

194 >>She's initiated a review? Okay. Next step: she completes the review. Let's meet up here again when that happens.

That's just another way of saying the investigation has already begun. She also said continue working with House Oversight. Continue, not begin.

Probably why Commer said 'immediately". Because it's already begun.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (viF8m)

195 A crisis of that magnitude will *not* be risked. For any reason"

This.

Reality is that such a crisis would signal the end of the republic. Welcome to the American Empire.

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (tubbA)

196 Make Scott Wiener the Face of the Democrat Party.

He's already the stretched out prolapsed anus of the party.

Posted by: Billy Silly at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (Vu7A1)

197 You say there's no specific law against this?
____________________________

Actually, there are quite a few civil and criminal violations associated with these unauthorized acts.

-Breach of fiduciary duty
-Fraud
-Reputational harm
-Criminal impersonation
-wire fraud, computer fraud

Posted by: Minister of Misinformation, and locksmith at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (dIske)

198 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:
http://tiny.cc/o5cu001

Now that is the perfect woman. Pity she's AI.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

199 It seems Jimmy Kimmel could build a humorous skit around president Autopen.

Out: Dancing needles
In: Dancing depends

Posted by: 18-1 at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

200 Are we near the point when Comudus kills Marcus Aurelius in that great and tragic story of the American Empire?

Posted by: no one at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (W7XSX)

201 177 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ
'I didn't leave the democrat party, the democrat party left me.'
- the last democrat who left the democrat party and told the truth about leaving the democrat party

Posted by: Eromero at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (LHPAg)

202 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's an elf.
Posted by: Some Conspiracy Theorist at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (sKqQm)
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Or possibly a store mannequin waiting to come to life.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (IBQGV)

203 figure out who shot Kennedy, yet?"

You and me?

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (tubbA)

204 figure out who shot Kennedy, yet?
Posted by: pahound at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (8iZMS)
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After all, it was you and me.

Posted by: The Devil at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (krQz2)

205 >>This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's AI, isn't it?

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (OuEQR)

206 Completely OT

So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)

207 This girl in a dress agrees with the robot's assessment, but nonetheless apologies for the oversight:
http://tiny.cc/z5cu001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (CgKt6)

208 Now that is the perfect woman. Pity she's AI.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

Yeah, this. It's the eyes, rhe tilt of the head and most importantly the skin tone. Skin tone almost always gives it away.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (zZu0s)

209 Joe Scarborough insists Autopen is at his peak right now.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (kTd/k)

210 Or possibly a store mannequin waiting to come to life.

The key is to never be french kissing her when she has to switch back.

Boy was that hard to explain to the boss

Posted by: Andrew McCarthy at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (sKqQm)

211 Are we near the point when Comudus kills Marcus Aurelius in that great and tragic story of the American Empire?"

Hmmm. Maybe

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (tubbA)

212 That's what I get for multi-tasking both online and off during threadgirl selection.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (CgKt6)

213 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (XQo4F)

214 206- lol!

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (hlNLQ)

215 The 25th amendment is just an idea.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

216 206 Completely OT

So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)

To keep their head warm?

Posted by: Nova Local at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (tOcjL)

217 http://tiny.cc/z5cu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (CgKt6)

Is she really going to wear that dress? It's after labor day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (zZu0s)

218 She looks like the Hallmark Movie actress. Can't remember her name. One of those Christmas stories of falling love with a Prince.

Posted by: no one at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (W7XSX)

219 So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)

it held the radio ear pieces in place and kept their heads warm

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (rbvCR)

220 186 figure out who shot Kennedy, yet?

It was you and me

Posted by: The Devil at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (0bjKf)

221 Auto pen can writer it's own jokes.

Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (EyfuW)

222 Is she really going to wear that dress? It's after labor day.

Down with pants
Up with dresses

Posted by: Obligatory at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (sKqQm)

223 She looks like the Hallmark Movie actress. Can't remember her name. One of those Christmas stories of falling love with a Prince.

Um, that would be ALL of them.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (Riz8t)

224 What does Autopen look like? Does he have distinguished grey on his nib?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (kTd/k)

225 Completely OT

So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)
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Radio? Air? Glorious and honorable uniform worn for tradition and as befit their rank?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (CgKt6)

226 193 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's an elf.
Posted by: Some Conspiracy Theorist

Hmmmmm! Gelfling! Please......please make peace!

Posted by: Chamberlain at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (JCZqz)

227
Completely OT

So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Posted by: Diogenes

================

Same reason prisoners get swabbed with alcohol before lethal injection?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (5e+/e)

228 why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?"

Takeoff could be rough.

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (tubbA)

229 Down with pants
Up with dresses
Posted by: Obligatory at October 28, 2025 05:00 PM (sKqQm)
++++
ISWYDT

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (CgKt6)

230 213 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at October 28, 2025 04:59 PM (XQo4F)
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You're late. Look at that post number!

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (krQz2)

231 The linked video is worth watching, for those who haven't done so. But don't watch it if you are about to take your blood pressure.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (P/Jb0)

232 223- um, I think that was the joke.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (hlNLQ)

233 Biden says the committee claims are false:

Former President Joe Biden, in an interview with the New York Times published on Sunday, said that he personally made every clemency and pardon decision during the last few weeks of his presidency -- including those made with an autopen.
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Given he has addressed this specifically, I don't see how the pardons and commutations can be declared null and void.
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Well yeah, it's a long-standing Rule of Law that yelling "I meant to pay for it!" after you get caught shoplifting legally means you did, in fact, pay for the items before you left the store.

Read the Constitution, you duffus--it's the "Oopsie Clause."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (6EDhb)

How does Biden know? Mike Johnson could testify about Biden categorically denying he had signed something (trafe? Oil? Natural gas?) that Johnson had in his pocket with Biden's supposed signature on it Biden thought he had signed something else entirely.

Posted by: LASue at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (lCppi)

234 That's an elf.
Posted by: Some Conspiracy Theorist

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Call me an elf on more time!

Posted by: Niles Finch at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

235 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (Zz0t1)

236 http://tiny.cc/o5cu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Yum! Thanks!

Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (77rzZ)

237 It seems Jimmy Kimmel could build a humorous skit around president Autopen.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (kTd/k)
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Use of "humorous" and "Jimmy Kimmel" in the same sentence assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (x7EH8)

238 Is is a...space elf?

Posted by: Hatemonger at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (sKqQm)

239 Biden says the committee claims are false:
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Biden's been known to be full of shit.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

240 Take it to the extreme.

Aide secretly gets a fake pardon signed with auto-pen without Presidents knowledge. Is it legal? Constitutional?

I would say no.

Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (G0vdT)

241 Autopen leaks ink.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (kTd/k)

242 Seems Trump's display of the Autopen in Joe Biden's stead on the wall of presidents was kind of a foreshadow.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (Zz0t1)

243 So this is why they trotted out Biden to make a public statement?!

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (krQz2)

244 AUTOPEN SHIT MY PANTS!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (Zz0t1)

245 Read the Constitution, you duffus--it's the "Oopsie Clause."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 28, 2025 04:56 PM (6EDhb)
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No question, he is a doofus. Also, he's lying.

But it doesn't matter, and it shouldn't matter: Since he says he approved the pardons, they are valid. All future Presidents, including our present favorite, will depend on this to be true.

Obviously, Presidents will be more careful using autopen, and probably will document the approvals (which Biden did not always do), but this is a tempest in a teacup.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (MHixg)

246 That post below with Shaniqua in the car. She’s so poor she needs food stamps, yet has a car with leather seats and a panoramic sunroof.

Mmmm hmmmmm.

This weekend gon’ b lit af in blue city shitholes. lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (9aoE1)

247 ... Former President Joe Biden, in an interview with the New York Times published on Sunday, said that he personally made every clemency and pardon decision during the last few weeks of his presidency -- including those made with an autopen. ...
Posted by: LASue at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (lCppi)
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Mandy Rice-Davies applies here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (CgKt6)

248 201 177 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg at October 28, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ
______________________________

I met that dude at a GWB inauguration party. He came in the door at the same time Larry Klayman (original Judicial Watch guy) did and I recognized Miller right away. I went over and chatted. Klayman, I didn't recognize and he was pissed no one bent over backwards to make him feel welcomed and went on a expletive ridden tirade before walking away. Miller looked at me and shook his head and said, "what an asshole." Which had us both laughing.

Posted by: Orson at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (dIske)

249 I just tried to post

Nothing will happen.

Nothing happened.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (g7RA/)

250 Biden's been known to be full of shit."

Didn't have no coke or lsd, just a couple of quarts of beer..

Posted by: man at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (tubbA)

251
I got Grok going on the legal precedents here. This is a problem with the system. Court would probably only get involved if something could be proven. Hard proof that someone usurped presidential authority. Essentially forged the president's signature.

If that could be proven, the Supreme Court would be forced to act (but "standing" might be a tricky way to dodge in some case). If it was signing a bill or EO, then it would likely be voided "ab initio"

Now for a pardon, Grok thinks the courts would allow it to stand, as there is no judicial review of pardons. Even if it fraud could be proven, the pardon would likely stand.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (w6EFb)

252 Median age of death with COVID: 78.
Life expectancy in the US: 79.

Posted by: SMOD at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (bwzr9)

253 Take it to the extreme.

Aide secretly gets a fake pardon signed with auto-pen without Presidents knowledge. Is it legal? Constitutional?

I would say no.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (G0vdT)
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The president could easily disown such a signature, and that aide is in trouble.

If he takes no steps to counter it, it's consent.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

254 I doubt Johnson had treif in his pocket, but yes, I remember the story.

once again, there is a process to OK use of the auto pen. There has to be records, unless Joe took them home to store in his unlocked garage or Hunter lost them in Thailand again.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (rbvCR)

255 Aide secretly gets a fake pardon signed with auto-pen without Presidents knowledge. Is it legal? Constitutional?

I would say no.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:03 PM (G0vdT)
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I bet that happened. More than once, too.

Having said that, I think those pardons are legal unless you can get Biden to disavow one.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (MHixg)

256 Re: sunroof

Evidently BMW makes a non opening sunroof. Just has a shade and glass.

I kind of like the idea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (zZu0s)

257 "The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg "

That's a myth.

Posted by: fd at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (vFG9F)

258 You people need to come join us! Less than 72 hours left to celebrate Lesbian Witching Month here in Salem, MA. Several of us have made the trip from Brattleboro to honor Lucifer here. Having a great time, but haven't noticed many children of coler. Probably because of Food Stamp and FART Tube Program cuts by that evil Trump!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein Of Brattleboro, VT at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (oftw2)

259 Looks like things are getting Sporty in Brazil.

I hope it's some Based Brazilians killing Commies.

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (OuEQR)

260 Posted by: Archimedes at October 28, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

I bet you're correct. She looks spooky.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2025 05:06 PM (IYIYn)

261 Aide secretly gets a fake pardon signed with auto-pen without Presidents knowledge. Is it legal? Constitutional?

I would say no.
Posted by: WisRich

True, but all it takes is Biteme declaring them pardoned even at a later date and a paucity of judge willing to let the case against it go forward. Alternatively, prosecute the staffers for tax fraud. Lawfare in, lawfare out of this mess.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2025 05:06 PM (mlg/3)

262
Fuck off Mary.

Shouldn't you be worrying how you are going to feed your family next month?

Posted by: four seasons at October 28, 2025 05:06 PM (3ek7K)

263 OMG. Not the Bee is ripping the UN's ass.

UN Women:
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.

F'n brutal.

https://tinyurl.com/4tam8kv9

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 28, 2025 05:06 PM (PO1Da)

264 LAShe is exactly right. Hence my citation of best evidence rule. Joe could proclaim from the rooftops “everything I autosigned is legit” but, when confronted in court with a specific (and likely inflammatory) document and asked, did you sign this pardon releasing serial killer child rapist so and so? Is it likely he’ll say yes?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (hlNLQ)

265 Looks like things are getting Sporty in Brazil.

I hope it's some Based Brazilians killing Commies.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (OuEQR)

I thought the commies were in charge and had imprisoned all the opposition?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (zZu0s)

266 Bet a lot are see the bottom.of a 5th

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (+qU29)

267 There's a reason why Xs are as legal as signatures. If you contest the X than it's not your legal signature, if you affirm the X is yours, then whatever you X-ed is legal.

It kind of operates on the same principle. Your wife can sign legal documents in your name, as long as you affirm it is your legal signature. If you contest it, then your wife's in trouble.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (krQz2)

268 JUST IN: Purple-haired Rep. Rosa DeLauro is being brutally mocked for claiming President Trump "ILLEGALLY" is ending SNAP funds...

She has too much Plutonium 239 in her diet because her hair glows in the dark.

Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (J9q9v)

269
Any job is a woman's job.
Any job is a woman's job.

__________

Kill this spider.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (tgvbd)

270 I bet that happened. More than once, too.

Having said that, I think those pardons are legal unless you can get Biden to disavow one.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (MHixg)
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Only Biden could screw up one of the unquestionable clear cut powers of the presidency.

Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (G0vdT)

271 I just tried to post

Nothing will happen.

Nothing happened.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (g7RA/)

So...you're saying it wasn't good for you?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (2WIwB)

272 Police officer goes above and beyond to help a stranded family.

https://tinyurl.com/mwkyvmv7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (IYIYn)

273 I’d imagine some folks are praying the grim reaper comes to visit him so they can argue for his out of court proclamations, but while he breathes, they’re in significant jeopardy.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:09 PM (hlNLQ)

274
Latrine is driving me crazy. The testimony is on YouTube. It sounds like one of her White House press briefings.

We all have bad days.
I can't speak to that.
I don't recall.
I don't have specifics on that.
Yes, he aged; we all age.
That wasn't my decision.
I'm not in every meeting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 05:09 PM (5e+/e)

275 Today Joe Biden (PHD in Standup Philosophy) challenged Einstein theories on the Universa and his formula of E=MC2.

Joe said that according to Hunter (The smartest person he knows) while he was on Crack that the Universe was created when The Big Dipper/Big Bear Constellation Farted and it created all the matter in today's visible known Universe.

The formula should have been ASS = Crack/Booze x Hookers. Senator Schumer today agreed and said this change should be introduced in College Curriculum immediately next to Gay Pride Studies.

Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 05:09 PM (J9q9v)

276 "I just tried to post

Nothing will happen.

Nothing happened.
Posted by: nurse ratched"

See. I was right.

Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (vFG9F)

277 As a black and queer woman of LGBTQ+ color immigrant

Chuy and Lamont weep.

Posted by: Duncanthrax, a mid-tier AoSHQ commenter, according to Grok at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (0sNs1)

278
During Wilson's incapacity, his wife, doctor, and an aide effectively exercised the power of the presidency. Legislation was signed by Edith, maybe guiding her hand, or some autopen like device.

It has happened before. And likely happened with Biden. This is a defect with the system that needs to be remedied. Somehow.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (w6EFb)

279 Only Biden could screw up one of the unquestionable clear cut powers of the presidency.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM (G0vdT)
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Funny... but true

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (BIg7z)

280 Evidently BMW makes a non opening sunroof. Just has a shade and glass.

I kind of like the idea.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I'll sit on it sans pants and treat you to "Pressed Ham On Glass!"

Posted by: OG Uncle Pervy at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (oftw2)

281 JUST IN: Purple-haired Rep. Rosa DeLauro is being brutally mocked for claiming President Trump "ILLEGALLY" is ending SNAP funds...

She has too much Plutonium 239 in her diet because her hair glows in the dark.
Posted by: Jackson K. at October 28, 2025 05:08 PM

To be fair...she's kinda stupid.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (kgE5c)

282 Ace, I think this deserves at least one flaming skull.

Posted by: Mark in SC at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (Vvo0d)

283 This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's AI, isn't it?

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM

Yep, too perfect.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (0N4FZ)

284 I just tried to post
Nothing will happen.
Nothing happened.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2025 05:04 PM (g7RA/)

I think . . . Like Harmeet Dhillon looking into the voting of WA State and CA, I think this is flooding all the zones. Trump is in a way a Chaotic Good sort, and he works best in chaos, when everyone he is opposing is focused on hammering out the most stable situation possible.

I think the strategy I have seen so far is to create a disturbance and pick off the fleeing rats when they make a break for it.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (rbvCR)

285 I prefer jobs to be done by women, particularly, my wife.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (krQz2)

286 225 Completely OT

So I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)
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Radio? Air? Glorious and honorable uniform worn for tradition and as befit their rank?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 05:01 PM (CgKt6)

They actually stripped the planes down... and didn't take Parachutes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 05:11 PM (mP0Kj)

287 Or possibly a store mannequin waiting to come to life.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (IBQGV)

THAT was one of my favorite classic "Twilight Zone" episodes.

And pretty girl. Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at October 28, 2025 05:11 PM (Sco7b)

288 >>Yep, too perfect.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (0N4FZ)

She wasn't talking.

That was my first clue.

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (OuEQR)

289
when confronted in court with a specific (and likely inflammatory) document and asked, did you sign this pardon releasing serial killer child rapist so and so? Is it likely he’ll say yes?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

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Will Pam Bondi do this?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (5e+/e)

290 264 LAShe is exactly right. Hence my citation of best evidence rule. Joe could proclaim from the rooftops “everything I autosigned is legit” but, when confronted in court with a specific (and likely inflammatory) document and asked, did you sign this pardon releasing serial killer child rapist so and so? Is it likely he’ll say yes?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (hlNLQ)
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Get into processes.

Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (G0vdT)

291 Women of a certain demographic call The Paolo, how you say, "The Happening!".

Posted by: Paolo at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (A3Sbh)

292 I don't read anything there that means anything is nulled and/or voided.

All the actions by the autopen are held and there is some nebulous action to send off a very sternly written letter to someone somewhere. Perhaps shake their fist at the sky and yell out clouds.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (3uBP9)

293 "why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?"

No heaters in those planes probably. It get cold up there.

Posted by: fd at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (vFG9F)

294 ace is pretty misery with the flaming skulls these days. We are kind of in the new testament days of the blog as opposed to the old testament (like when there was Mr Paul Anka, Kaboom, etc.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (zZu0s)

295 >>I thought the commies were in charge and had imprisoned all the opposition?

You never get ALL of the opposition.

I mean...even Pol Pot missed a few.

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (OuEQR)

296 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg "

Scoop Jackson

Posted by: LASue at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (lCppi)

297 his brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:

That's AI, isn't it?

Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM

Yep, too perfect.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (0N4FZ)
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oh ...damn. I thought she was real.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (BIg7z)

298 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg "

Scoop Jackson
Posted by: LASue at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (lCppi)
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Sam Nunn?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (x7EH8)

299 Looks like things are getting Sporty in Brazil.

I hope it's some Based Brazilians killing Commies.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2025 05:05 PM (OuEQR)

The Brazilians know what a dictatorship looks like, and know what it leads to. The Brazilian Right is losing its mind over the current scandal over Lula's election which appears to have been rigged by some non-Brazilian organization through NGOs who were funded in some way

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:14 PM (rbvCR)

300 Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:10 PM (rbvCR)

As long as Calif sends every registered voter a ballot by mail? There is no such thing as a valid election IMO.

They don't even check signatures... and with both motor voter AND signing people up outside of WalMart (which they do)... there is no way to validate if someone is a citizen or not.

In fact, with Motor Voter they now KNOWINGLY give illegals a Drivers License, THEN also ask them if they want to register to vote.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 05:14 PM (mP0Kj)

301 NOOD ballroom

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at October 28, 2025 05:14 PM (W3AhE)

302 The perfect woman is the one you're with.

Posted by: Paolo at October 28, 2025 05:14 PM (0sNs1)

303
Latrine's GOP Oversight testimony is indistinguishable from her book tour interviews.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2025 05:14 PM (5e+/e)

304 It seems Jimmy Kimmel could build a humorous skit around president Autopen.
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Well in theory Ace could build shelves, but wouldn't we want to choose someone more qualified for either task?

Posted by: Crusader at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (TN0g+)

305 ace is pretty misery with the flaming skulls these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:12 PM (zZu0s)
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We don't know when the government is going to open up again.

He's just being prudent.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

306
I saw this in an earlier thread and it made me laugh.

"There's [a video] of some She-boon flat out saying she's going to break into people's houses and take the food right out of their refigerators, and then says nobody's going to do a thing about it."

I work at home. Breaking into my house is a stupid and very dangerous idea.

Still, I'm a nice enough guy. If I catch somebody stealing my TV, I'll give him a chance to desist peaceably and surrender.

But I'm gourmand. If I catch you going for my charcuterie, you're deader than disco. I will freak the fuck out, and you'll be carted off with a throwaway piece in your grubby little mitts instead of your desired aged provolone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (BI5O2)

307 >>The Brazilians know what a dictatorship looks like, and know what it leads to. The Brazilian Right is losing its mind over the current scandal over Lula's election which appears to have been rigged by some non-Brazilian organization through NGOs who were funded in some way

*Hums, tunelessly*

Would you look at that, already past 5 Pm.

I gotta get going...

Posted by: CIA at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (OuEQR)

308 It seems Jimmy Kimmel could build a humorous skit around president Autopen.
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Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

309 Anybody who still claimed the Democrats after the Clintons trashed the presidency I would not consider even semi-decent. The Democrat party has long been the home of anti-American grifters, racists, and socialists.

Posted by: fd at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

310 >>@CletaMitchell
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>>28m
Alright, kids. Here it is. Released today by the FBI, nearly 200 pages of formerly classified FBI documents, posted today on the House Judiciary Committee website and proves that the "state law cases" with the fake criminal charges against Pres Trump, Trump lawyers, Trump electors...and supporters were NOT state initiated AT ALL. These were ALL proxies for the feds...the BIDEN feds....

Read it all.

https://tinyurl.com/33t57kz7

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (viF8m)

311 298 The last semi-decent Democrat was Zell Miller.
Posted by: Bulg "

Scoop Jackson
Posted by: LASue at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (lCppi)
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Sam Nunn?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 28, 2025 05:13 PM (x7EH

Nathan Bedford Forrest?

/runs out of thread... giggling....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2025 05:16 PM (mP0Kj)

312 It kind of operates on the same principle. Your wife can sign legal documents in your name, as long as you affirm it is your legal signature. If you contest it, then your wife's in trouble.
Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2025 05:07 PM (krQz2)

You mean all those power of attorneys we signed are not needed? Shoot, the lawyer charged a lot there.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2025 05:16 PM (rbvCR)

313 290- I thought about mentioning that earlier when someone posted about proving a negative, but someone else addressed it, as does the house report comprehensively. You don’t have to prove a negative here, only to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Joe didn’t authorize. The fact that there is a process, and it was not followed, goes a long way in doing so- hence the conclusion by the house that these are void.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:16 PM (hlNLQ)

314 I’d imagine some folks are praying the grim reaper comes to visit him so they can argue for his out of court proclamations, but while he breathes, they’re in significant jeopardy.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:09 PM (hlNLQ)
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Joe, our advice is don't invite any visitors over.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 28, 2025 05:16 PM (BIg7z)

315 Miserly, phone. Illiterate fuckwit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:17 PM (zZu0s)

316 Nood

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2025 05:17 PM (hlNLQ)

317 >>> This brunette in black has long considered the Biden administration entirely illegitimate because of the fact that it was obviously being run by a cabal the whole time:
http://tiny.cc/o5cu001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2025 04:55 PM (CgKt6)

She is looking past me, through me really, past the veil between universes, and across the streams of time. A little unsettling. Also it's unsettling that ai is so good at triggering the horndog center of my brain. I'd hate to see AI make a thottish skinner box.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 28, 2025 05:18 PM (3uBP9)

318 The Democrat party has long been the home of anti-American grifters, racists, and socialists.
Posted by: fd at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

Don't forget pedophiles, rapists and evil fucktards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 28, 2025 05:19 PM (zZu0s)

319 Alright, kids. Here it is. Released today by the FBI, nearly 200 pages of formerly classified FBI documents, posted today on the House Judiciary Committee website and proves that the "state law cases" with the fake criminal charges against Pres Trump, Trump lawyers, Trump electors...and supporters were NOT state initiated AT ALL. These were ALL proxies for the feds...the BIDEN feds....

Read it all.

https://tinyurl.com/33t57kz7
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2025 05:15 PM (viF8m)

LOOK!!! uh... Keith Urban said something about his divorce!!!!

Posted by: MSM... at October 28, 2025 05:19 PM (mP0Kj)

320 I saw Pretty Misery open for Brodski Beat in ‘88

Posted by: CTHillary at October 28, 2025 05:40 PM (dbKwj)

321 As an African-American queer black woman of color with a tan I say tar paper is racist.

Posted by: wth at October 28, 2025 05:42 PM (v0R5T)

322 Breaking just now: Walmart considering preloading shopping carts and leaving them in the parking lot for snap bombs to steal
So as not too inconvenience, their loyal customers

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 28, 2025 05:47 PM (82xrD)

323 Bombs mom's same thing

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 28, 2025 05:49 PM (82xrD)

324 They should court martial Milley first. He wouldn’t get a pick of where the court sits, so the best chance of the pardon being declared null and void.

Posted by: CTHillary at October 28, 2025 05:58 PM (dbKwj)

325 I'm sitting here, staring out the window, sipping a warm drink. Suddenly it hits me: why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2025 04:58 PM (2WIwB)

Radio headphones.
They liked listening to Frank Sinatra .

Posted by: From about That Time at October 28, 2025 05:59 PM (n4GiU)

326 I agree with you all. Persecute them all.

Posted by: epador at October 28, 2025 07:09 PM (nELOL)

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