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Daily Tech News 15 October 2025

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  • Are AI agents compromised by default? Yes. (Computer)

    Well, that's awkward for the brand new multi trillion dollar industry.

    Also awkward is the web page: You have to load the page and then download the PDF to read it. You can't statically link to the PDF.


  • Are the people using AI agents compromised by default? Apparently also yes. (404 Media) (archive site)

    A lawyer appearing before the New York state supreme court was ordered to show why he shouldn't be sanctioned after presenting multiple AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

    His filing in the sanctions hearing... Contained multiple AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

    At least he's consistent.



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Technical Interlude



It's not just us 29 year olds who are offended by Windows 11.



Musical Interlude






Disclaimer: If I got any more relaxed you'd have to mop the floor.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




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1 w00t

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:00 AM (aURVT)

2 I w00ted

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:02 AM (aURVT)

3 also I notified the otters

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:02 AM (aURVT)

4 Woot morning.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 15, 2025 04:02 AM (BLOW1)

5 Yup. Sure did.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at October 15, 2025 04:03 AM (CvbdP)

6 Anyone tried using NVidia's Jetson boards? Tried to get a video driver built, but the tech support for developers is less than useless - all the responses from them on their forums seem like they are AI-generated. Frustrating.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at October 15, 2025 04:08 AM (vd6bO)

7 Pixy, after I posted the first comment, then I read the post for a bit and then I hit refresh and my first comment was gone. In case that is of use to you.

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:10 AM (aURVT)

8 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 04:10 AM (+qU29)

9 hallooo, skip

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:11 AM (aURVT)

10 7 Pixy, after I posted the first comment, then I read the post for a bit and then I hit refresh and my first comment was gone. In case that is of use to you
_-_
I think that also happened to me on another thread a few days ago. Thought it must be my imagination, but perhaps not. (I was working on gettjng in before Elric, don't ya know).

Posted by: Don in SoCo at October 15, 2025 04:13 AM (vd6bO)

11 Oh, look at the time. I had better sleep sometime tonight. Goodnight, all.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at October 15, 2025 04:15 AM (vd6bO)

12 My SS came in overnight. At least that part of the government still works.

Posted by: RickZ at October 15, 2025 04:15 AM (gKDq2)

13 DSM =

Distinguished Service Medal

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:16 AM (aURVT)

14

Good morning, good people.

Has mention been made that Windows 11 fellates rotted maggot penis yet? If not, consider this the first announcement.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 15, 2025 04:16 AM (vFbHf)

15 ... these two things are not the same

Posted by: m at October 15, 2025 04:16 AM (aURVT)

16 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 04:25 AM (sAmhv)

17 Good morning all. A beautiful start to the day here in Portugal. Today is our 25th Wedding Anniversary. Feels good.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 15, 2025 04:26 AM (sIt1L)

18 A lawyer appearing before the New York state supreme court was ordered to show why he shouldn't be sanctioned after presenting multiple AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

His filing in the sanctions hearing... Contained multiple AI generated citations of cases that don't exist.

At least he's consistent.
...........................................
They exist, to him.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 04:33 AM (sAmhv)

19 In my insomnia last night did look up my phone on off switch could be fixed by also can be eliminated by double tap, not 2 x 45acp but hitting the screen twice.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 04:39 AM (+qU29)

20 Oh, look at the time. I had better sleep sometime tonight. Goodnight, all.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at October 15, 2025 04:15 AM (vd6bO)

Sleep is for those who can't handle being a zombie.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2025 04:41 AM (i24o9)

21 Still have Win 10. Turned off the auto wifi, so it won't connect. I need to turn off the secure boot thing, then I'll install Linux Mint. I've been using ver 21.3 on my other laptop, so I'll use it on this W10 machine.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 04:41 AM (sAmhv)

22 not 2 x 45acp but hitting the screen twice.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 04:39 AM (+qU29)

2 x 45 acp works, too.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2025 04:42 AM (i24o9)

23 Hitting that long road, not too many more days of it

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 04:43 AM (+qU29)

24 One of our local universities is having a hunger strike today. Why? because they want peace in the middle east and the Palestinians to get it all. I'm sure most of the student body could care less, and pizza for all behind closed dorm doors and fewer eating in the cafeteria. How come when I was in college we never did any thing other than drink beer, my wasted youth.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2025 04:55 AM (wlQdF)

25 "A lawyer appearing before the New York state supreme court was ordered to show why he shouldn't be sanctioned after presenting multiple AI generated citations of cases that don't exist. "

That's at least the third lawyer I've heard of caught in this situation. There may well be more.

This won't stop until a lawyer loses his license to practice law.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 15, 2025 05:15 AM (O7YUW)

26
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 15, 2025 05:16 AM (tljrc)

27
Has anyone here a map of the Caribbean Sea? I'm told that "Smithereens" is there and so obviously so, that anybody who can complete Form ID(stroke)TenTee ought to be able to find it.

-- Senator Random Paul, Proud Completer of Many a Form ID-10T.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 05:18 AM (xG4kz)

28 This won't stop until a lawyer loses his license to practice law.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 15, 2025 05:15 AM (O7YUW)

Narrator: This will continue, because people including lawyers are stupid and lazy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2025 05:19 AM (i24o9)

29 27: Smithereens?

youtu.be/OwvEYtzV23k

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 05:23 AM (sAmhv)

30 Good morning morons

Pixy loves those one-hit wonders

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 05:25 AM (vKjFC)

31 Entenmann's chocolate covered donut and coffee

I love the east coast

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 05:28 AM (vKjFC)

32 WAVY10 desperately wants Spanberger to win. Everyday they run a story or two about how Trump policies are raising prices and inflation.

Posted by: Accomack at October 15, 2025 05:31 AM (Bbhox)

33 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2025 05:32 AM (hoCmQ)

34 Behind a Wall is Sleep
The Smithereens
https://youtu.be/UNZbP3ZVem4

This seems appropriate for an overnight thread where nobody can sleep.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 15, 2025 05:32 AM (LKdE6)

35 Trump is playing a dangerous game with gangsters like Hamas

They may humiliate him.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 05:35 AM (vKjFC)

36 Windows 10 support ends today. Here's who's affected.

I am affected. Until January, when I will be transitioning to Linux Mint.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2025 05:37 AM (ExV1e)

37 Is there anything good about AI? So far, I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:37 AM (lQ+/f)

38 Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 05:28 AM (vKjFC)

I am glad you are up , SFP, because you are on the East Coast and not because of insomnia in CA.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:39 AM (lQ+/f)

39 Evening and morning for this Woden's Day in the lonesome October! (I don't think I've ever read that Zelazny book, though I might have. I just love the title.)

I'm awake, sipping coffee, with a Trackdown ep with Robert Culp from the Fifties on TV.

Last night we went to a pleasant hour's lecture about poisons in Victorian life and literature, and about poisonous plants found around the world. The speaker was a young Ph.D. candidate in English who got her MA in the UK. A fun topic for Halloween time!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:39 AM (omVj0)

40 Made it

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 05:43 AM (xatjc)

41 Is there anything good about AI? So far, I'm not seeing it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:37 AM (lQ+/f)


AI is really good in expert systems. Analyzing specific things with known and agreed upon rules quickly to free humans to focus on the instances where things are marginal and need an actual brain.

Trouble is that expert systems are harder to use to control the masses so we get "general AI" instead which, while artificial, isn't intelligent and will only be used for nefarious purposes. This woman - https://tinyurl.com/4bj4saxv+ - makes a lot of videos about the issues with AI.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2025 05:43 AM (ExV1e)

42 Trump is playing a dangerous game with gangsters like Hamas They may humiliate him. Posted by: San Franpsycho

I've been thinking along the same lines. Hamas is not going to roll over as evidenced by them executing other Palestinians and then of violating the agreements by not turning over all the bodies they murdered. There's one way to deal with Hamas and that is to chase them back into their tunnels and then flood them with seawater. It seems a matter of time before Hamas performs another atrocity which requires a boots on the ground response. At that point, yeah...

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 15, 2025 05:43 AM (LKdE6)

43 My two main computers here are both Macs, the MacBook Air laptop and a desktop machine, both from 2013, both updated to much more recent operating systems. I do have two Win 10 laptops. No doubt the next time I turn them on, they will want to to transition to Win 11. I recall them urging me about that this summer, the last time I used them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:44 AM (omVj0)

44 A Living Being- Genesis 2:7

International Fellowship of Christians and Jews:

https://tinyurl.com/y8wjttfh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:44 AM (lQ+/f)

45 They may humiliate him.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 05:35 AM (vKjFC)

You can't humiliate a dude who has no shame.

Worst case scenario is history's first recorded instance of a President using the word "Rugfucker" in public.

Best. I meant "Best".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2025 05:44 AM (06Hmj)

46 I only keep Windows around to play certain Steam games.

I haven't been playing those recently, so that need is dropping a lot. Especially since one of the game designers whose games I mostly liked turned out to be a massive anti-Trump dickhead. (TBH, the developer was a bit of an opinionated dickhead to begin with; since the only opinionated dickheaded bits that I knew about were on game design, I didn't care for a while. He fucked up by melding his "here's my developer twitter/X feed" with his "here's my twitter/X feed on non-game related things" together. Once I found out his idiotic opinions on Trump, I uninstalled his games from Steam. Joke's on me, of course; he already got paid.)

Posted by: Richard Cranium at October 15, 2025 05:46 AM (e2iJO)

47 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:39 AM (omVj0

That does sound inteteresting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:46 AM (lQ+/f)

48 10 more days until Paul McCartney shows up in San Antonio. By an extraordinary coincidence I will be there too.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 15, 2025 05:47 AM (LKdE6)

49 Today I have to ship two of my vintage hats out to the eBayer who purchased them. Ain't easy to wrap an octagonal hat box, lemme tell ya.

Then I'll order that Canon laser printer/scanner/copier on Amazon I want. The Brother unit I've had for some years has a paper jam I can't find, is asking for toner, and in any case I *need* a scanner/copier. For years I had that function on my printers at work and took them for granted. Yesterday I had to go to a local library to print the labels for the hat packages. Annoying.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:51 AM (omVj0)

50 I have a weird hunch that Hamas isn't long for this world. They want to cling to what power they have, but the underpinnings of that power are gone. US/UN money, Iranian money, Arab money, is all going away. They'll be so busy fighting off local competitors they won't have time to screw with anyone else. And if they do, at least within the next three years, they know they're not going to tip-toe through the atrocities like they always used to, they'll instead finally get a great big dose of Hebrew American FO on their foreheads, because this wasn't some geopoliticking move, this was the final ultimatum. A big smoking hole in Iran says so.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2025 05:51 AM (06Hmj)

51 Moar Smithereens

https://youtu.be/vqML7WbOun8

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 15, 2025 05:51 AM (PiwSw)

52 Wish I could have that hunch

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 05:53 AM (xatjc)

53 Fen, I spoke with the young lady after the talk. (It was billed as an "Arsenic and Old Lace Tea Party," and featured actual tea, little sandwiches, and cookies!) I mentioned the use of tetraethyl lead (the lead compound that used to be in gasoline) as a poison in Ellery Queen's Roman Hat Mystery, and the dramatic monologue in Robert Browning's poem "The Laboratory." She hadn't heard of either, though she knew Browning and his "My Last Duchess," and seemed interested in looking both up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:55 AM (omVj0)

54 Wolfus, the cookies didn't taste like almonds, did they?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 15, 2025 05:56 AM (PiwSw)

55 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 05:55 AM (omVj0)

That was so neat, and glad the tea party wasn't poisoned .😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 05:59 AM (lQ+/f)

56 Wolfus - wrapping the hatbox may not provide enough protection. I would find a large enough box to float the hatbox in a sea of airbags.

Posted by: SnailRace at October 15, 2025 06:01 AM (VeRFj)

57 Wolfus, the cookies didn't taste like almonds, did they?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 15, 2025


***
Nope! She mentioned that "bitter almonds" detail, and pointed out that the ones we consume are called "sweet" almonds, a different species. And that not everybody can detect the smell of bitter almonds.

I'm not that swift sometimes. I reread Browning's "The Laboratory" out loud to Linda after we got home. And I suddenly realized that the speaker in the dramatic monologue is a woman. For some reason I'd always thought it was a cuckolded husband who was having the poison made to slip to his cheating wife -- but it's a woman aiming to murder her rivals:

"Now, take all my jewels, gorge gold to your fill,
"You may kiss me, old man, on my mouth if you will!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 06:02 AM (omVj0)

58 Wolfus - wrapping the hatbox may not provide enough protection. I would find a large enough box to float the hatbox in a sea of airbags.
Posted by: SnailRace at October 15, 2025


***
Both of these came to me in their current boxes, wrapped in shipping paper and plenty of tape. It's hard to find such larger boxes without paying a premium. Both have stiff hat rings inside to hold the crown of the hat, and then I have plastic and paper as padding.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 06:04 AM (omVj0)

59 Old time hymn cover - "It is well with my soul":

https://tinyurl.com/yybzh4rx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2025 06:11 AM (7RYym)

60 Sleepless along the river at Barling, Arkansas, en route to Corsicana.
The city next door, Fort Smith, may be a pleasant city for Wolfus. Hospital, college, library, pipe shop, and a few diners. I think it’s about a third the population of New Orleans.

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 06:11 AM (VeRFj)

61 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 15, 2025 06:13 AM (kHop/)

62 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at October 15, 2025 06:15 AM (J5A2J)

63 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2025 06:19 AM (u82oZ)

64 15 minutes to chocks pulled, hanger door opened and wheels rolling to Texas.

Everyone have a wonderful day. For travelers, any airlines meet schedules and land at the right airport. Safe travels with legal vehicular weapons for all drivers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2025 06:21 AM (u82oZ)

65 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: R-A-G-G M-O-P-P Raggmopp!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 15, 2025 06:23 AM (yy9ow)

66 We are on the road from Maine to Long Island today with a stop in New Haven for pizza.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 15, 2025 06:23 AM (ivEDQ)

67 Happy Wednesday, everyone. Today is the day I get the second of three injections into my knee. Supposedly, the second one is when people really start seeing results. I remain optimistic.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2025 06:28 AM (svLOV)

68 Have a safe, uneventful trip, Salty, and all others traveling to Corsicana, or any other destination.

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 06:28 AM (VeRFj)

69 Silver at $53.00 per oz. 4 each pre-1965 dimes plus 4 each pre-1965 quarters (or $1.40 face value of any pre-1965 silver coins) is one oz of silver. Each pre-1965 silver dime has $3.785 worth of silver in it. A silver dollar has $37.85 worth of silver in it.

Gold at $4,223.80 per oz.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 15, 2025 06:29 AM (Da7Vv)

70 In St Andrews Scotland now. Nice change from London. I got up at 0530 and walked, I'm pretty sure I was the only person awake in the whole town at that hour. Now its almost time for lunch and a pint.

Posted by: Molly k. at October 15, 2025 06:38 AM (Y8r4L)

71 The Epson ecco-tank printers are quite nice - they even do a decent job on color pictures. HOWEVER. When you do a refill on the tanks do not attempt to save however much is left in the bottles after the refill and use it to top off the tanks at a later date. The ink from an opened bottle will clog the printer. Only use sealed bottles to fill the tanks.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 15, 2025 06:43 AM (Da7Vv)

72 Wolfus, please see my post #60.

Molly, enjoy your time in Scotland. We were there in June - very pretty landscape.

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 06:45 AM (VeRFj)

73 I heard an analysis that made sense. Trump was the "good cop" to Nutanyahoo's "bad cop."

They achieved the goal of getting the hostages out, the live ones anyway.

IMHO, when, not if Hamas misbehaves again, Trump is going to be "bad cop."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 15, 2025 06:46 AM (ZmEVT)

74 There's something uncanny about AI.
It's like the disembodied echoes of billions of lost idiots.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at October 15, 2025 06:48 AM (cSByu)

75 Good morning from Amarillo.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2025 06:49 AM (7hY4y)

76
More fun with AI: Ask ChatGPT if there is a seahorse emoji.

It might have recovered by now, but late September it was stroking out.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 15, 2025 06:51 AM (UBjyd)

77 Pixy - noticed you have Little Green Footballs as one of the recommended or "preferred" links at your site. Truly? Ouch. Didn't know you were in to all that unhinged lefty/Dem garbage.

Posted by: EnzoM at October 15, 2025 06:51 AM (vhnYh)

78 Didn't know you were in to all that unhinged lefty/Dem garbage.

Know thine enemy. -:-)

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2025 06:55 AM (svLOV)

79 77: LoL! Most of those links are probably dead. That part of the site hasn't been touched in ages. It's kind of a museum.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 06:56 AM (sAmhv)

80 Sleepless along the river at Barling, Arkansas, en route to Corsicana.
The city next door, Fort Smith, may be a pleasant city for Wolfus. Hospital, college, library, pipe shop, and a few diners. I think it’s about a third the population of New Orleans.
Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025


***
Is Judge Parker still presiding over the court there?

All seriousness aside, my brother was born in Fort Smith!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 06:59 AM (omVj0)

81 mornin yall. Tomorrow morning at this time I should be in Phenix City with only 650 miles left to go. I might need a prayer for a CV joint, if there is such a thing.

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:00 AM (vFG9F)

82 Morning peeps.

Over the last week or two the local community around here has been debating the possibility that an AI data center would be built in a mostly rural, sparsely populated county next to ours. There was a zoning commission meeting that saw about 550 local residents show up to voice their displeasure.

As is the case with a lot of these issues, the commission didn't want to discuss matters until it became impossible to ignore.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2025 07:01 AM (Q4IgG)

83
WAVY10 desperately wants Spanberger to win. Everyday they run a story or two about how Trump policies are raising prices and inflation.
Posted by: Accomack


Spanberger is such s soulless zombie and devou

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:03 AM (xG4kz)

84
... and appeared to be so devoid of any shred of human empathy in her non responses on dumping the AG horror candidate.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:05 AM (xG4kz)

85 83
WAVY10 desperately wants Spanberger to win. Everyday they run a story or two about how Trump policies are raising prices and inflation.
Posted by: Accomack

Spanberger is such s soulless zombie and devou

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:



NoVA's Coven of Karen's just adore her though.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 07:06 AM (sAmhv)

86 Molly k, was there new years 79-80

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 07:07 AM (xatjc)

87 I just had scrambled eggs, bacon and toast at a roofto restaurant overlooking the Atlantic. Not a bad way start off our 25th Anniversary day. The mimosas were excellent.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 15, 2025 07:07 AM (UkSWx)

88 Good morning from Amarillo.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2025 06:49 AM (7hY4y)


I'm hearing some song lyrics.

Good morning from the other side of Texas, brother! Looking forward to seeing you. I picked up a 1911 style 45 similar to the one of yours I took a liking to. Haven't even fired it yet. That will change soon!

Posted by: Doof at October 15, 2025 07:09 AM (k/Pkr)

89 "Over the last week or two the local community around here has been debating the possibility that an AI data center would be built in a mostly rural, sparsely populated county next to ours. There was a zoning commission meeting that saw about 550 local residents show up to voice their displeasure"

In the last month in two surrounding counties the same thing has been going on. There is a lot of opposition. One county shot it down, the other county's commissioners approved one. People are pissed and do not want data centers near their homes. Concerns about the noise, traffic, esthetics, and power prices are the main issues.

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

90 Is Judge Parker still presiding over the court there?

All seriousness aside, my brother was born in Fort Smith!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Yup - hangman is patiently waiting for a customer. For now, birds have been nesting underneath his work platform.

Maybe you could check out the city - looks like a place you would enjoy.

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 07:10 AM (VeRFj)

91 Wow - a SnailRacer sighting!

Posted by: Doof at October 15, 2025 07:11 AM (k/Pkr)

92 Hi Snail Racer, see you soon.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 15, 2025 07:11 AM (0nHVk)

93 youtu.be/FbVISS-lEAc

George Strait - Amarillo by morning.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 07:12 AM (sAmhv)

94 Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at October 15, 2025 06:15 AM (J5A2J)


JT status? Just wondering.

Hopefully Ben Had has been in touch and will update me

Posted by: Doof at October 15, 2025 07:13 AM (k/Pkr)

95 The ink from an opened bottle will clog the printer. Only use sealed bottles to fill the tanks.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 15, 2025 06:43 AM (Da7Vv)

Well that sucks.
I just got one of those printers and had ink left over from the first fill.

It’s only been like a month since I filled them so maybe if I put the rest in the ink will still be good.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:13 AM (6ydKt)

96 DDS! Looking forward to seeing you as well!

Posted by: Doof at October 15, 2025 07:13 AM (k/Pkr)

97 I can understand the opposition. We bought property way out away from anything else for the solitude and if some 600 acre data center were to be built next door I would be pissed too.

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:14 AM (vFG9F)

98 Lincolntf - a very late breakfast? Have not yet explored Portugal but would love to pretty soon. Enjoy your anniversary and congrats!

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 07:14 AM (VeRFj)

99 Actually thinking of that trip we went there New Years day. Was open but no one there much except our group. Only did some putting practice.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 07:15 AM (xatjc)

100 It doesn't really bother me. It's not like making up facts about how to build a bridge or do a heart surgery. AI making up case law altogether is not appreciably different from how human lawyers arbitrarily and capriciously "interpret" "real" "laws."

That business has been nothing but bullshit and lies for a long time. Why not automate them?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2025 07:16 AM (BI5O2)

101 Hey Doef and Deb! It’s 6am and still haven’t slept. At this rate I’ll never get to Corsicana to enjoy y’alls company. Safe travels!

Posted by: SnailRacer at October 15, 2025 07:18 AM (VeRFj)

102 Actually thinking of that trip we went there New Years day. Was open but no one there much except our group. Only did some putting practice.
Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2025 07:15 AM (xatjc)

......

I think this is the coolest place ever. My sister and I were here for the Open a few yrs back. Spent 10 days here. Love it. It's full of college kids this time of year.

Posted by: Molly k. at October 15, 2025 07:18 AM (fM+4E)

103 There was a zoning commission meeting that saw about 550 local residents show up to voice their displeasure.

Sure sign that you have a depraved population when the welfare is so good and abundant that people will get off their fat drunk lazy asses together to bitch and complain about any form of prosperity coming into the area.

Its like they don't want anything but worthless gaggle toothed hill scoggin as neighbors and hate the idea that anyone might come in and improve things in any possible way.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:19 AM (a4flb)

104 > I can understand the opposition. We bought property way out away from anything else for the solitude and if some 600 acre data center were to be built next door I would be pissed too.
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The county in question here has issue supplying the customers it currently supports with water and electricity. So much in fact, there was debate on whether a data center was even feasible.

I'd wager it was, at the expense of rural utility customers. Who showed remarkable persistence.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2025 07:19 AM (Q4IgG)

105
Good morning from Amarillo.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large


Daughter, her two cats and I overnighted there in March 2013 during our epic journey from Oakland, CA to Wilmington, DE. I had selected I-40 as our route east so as to avoid possible spring snows on more northerly routes. We were towing a U-Haul trailer behind her Ford Ranger pickup and were no packing snow chains. There was no way that I wanted to have to deal with potential heavy snowfalls under those circumstances.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:19 AM (xG4kz)

106 77 Pixy - noticed you have Little Green Footballs as one of the recommended or "preferred" links at your site. Truly? Ouch. Didn't know you were in to all that unhinged lefty/Dem garbage.
Posted by: EnzoM at October 15, 2025 06:51 AM (vhnYh)

Pixy probably has had the same links for 20 years back when LGF was new and never bothered changing them.

It wasn’t always a lefty site, that came later.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:19 AM (6ydKt)

107 "Its like they don't want anything but worthless gaggle toothed hill scoggin as neighbors and hate the idea that anyone might come in and improve things in any possible way."

Is that wrong?

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:20 AM (vFG9F)

108 People are pissed and do not want data centers near their homes.

We're still fighting things over here. Some company came in with the idea of setting up power lines for a place in Virginia. I live in Maryland. They actually tried claiming the local government had signed off on it.

The community meeting was so packed that I actually couldn't stay there. People were furious and making it known.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2025 07:20 AM (svLOV)

109 Thanks Snail Racer, it was the unplanned by-product of a walk on the beach.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 15, 2025 07:21 AM (UkSWx)

110 Doof, I am looking forward to seeing you too, safe travels.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 15, 2025 07:22 AM (0nHVk)

111 AI making up case law altogether is not appreciably different from how human lawyers arbitrarily and capriciously "interpret" "real" "laws."

Oddly, I agree. When the current crop of lawyers mangle laws and contort previous case law into something totally grotesque and obscene it creates precedent.

When made-up fairy-tale bogus cases surface coming to the same result, at least its possible to discard the filings and disbar the idiot lawyer who is likely very lazy and corrupt.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:23 AM (a4flb)

112 Oakland, CA to Wilmington, DE.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:19 AM


That’s kinda like jumping out of the frying pan into the frying pan.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:24 AM (6ydKt)

113 If you're going to import a bunch of Indian and Chinese indentures to operate a data center that won't employ a single local resident, and it will run up the costs of their electricity and water to the moon, you might expect they won't see it as "improving things" for "scoggins" like them, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2025 07:24 AM (BI5O2)

114 G'morning, all!


Spent most of the mid-day at the Fort Worth Stockyard doing tourist things.

Some more sightseeing with a shipmate and his wonderful wife.

Then depart for Corsicana around 1:30 tomorrow afternoon.

Should hit the hotel around 3:00pm.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2025 07:24 AM (hGA0Z)

115 I question whether these huge data centers are necessary anyway. They use a huge amount of resources for frivolous things like AI cat videos.

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:24 AM (vFG9F)

116 Folks who want to own a data center should be required to build them alongside a source of cooling water, and within five miles of a nuclear power plant, built for that purpose.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2025 07:26 AM (hGA0Z)

117 VIA!! Stay safe!

Posted by: Doof at October 15, 2025 07:27 AM (k/Pkr)

118 The lawyers would be fine using AI as long as they check the citations and make corrections to hallucinations.

Might be more work than it’s worth that way but at least it would be accurate.
Saves on hiring a paralegal at least.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:27 AM (6ydKt)

119
Oakland, CA to Wilmington, DE


Having lived multiple years in the vicinities of both, I can attest that the former easily qualifies for an "avoid this place" designation.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:27 AM (xG4kz)

120 Is that wrong?

Not for the rest of us. Because these back-water shit hole counties where these imbred moonshiners are busy buggering the neighbor's livestock will be passed over for money to fix roads and keep the lights on.

Having a data center on the other-side of the hill brings reliable electricity, infrastructure and modern fire fighting because the owners of an AI warehouse care about their property and their neighborhood.

The data center operators are the first pigs at the trough, but at least they pay their way.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:27 AM (a4flb)

121
JJS is here

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 15, 2025 07:28 AM (gbOdA)

122 Doof...be safe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2025 07:29 AM (hGA0Z)

123 Folks who want to own a data center should be required to build them alongside a source of cooling water, and within five miles of a nuclear power plant, built for that purpose.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 15, 2025 07:26 AM (hGA0Z)

They built that Google Data Center on Hwy 52 near Moncks Corner a long time ago, ten years at least.

It’s close to the Cooper River but I don’t know if they water cool the racks or what.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:29 AM (6ydKt)

124 Having lived multiple years in the vicinities of both, I can attest that the former easily qualifies for an "avoid this place" designation.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 15, 2025 07:27 AM (xG4kz)

Makes sense.
I’ve heard nothing but bad things for decades.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:31 AM (6ydKt)

125 The lawyers would be fine using AI as long as they check the citations and make corrections to hallucinations.

Help me understand. The citation implies that the reasoning in the cited material is instrumental to the argument. If the source of the citation is bogus, isn't also the argument?

I'm entitled to the entire Howard Hughes estate because of a clause "blah blah blah" in Bangahor v Payduhpimp

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:31 AM (a4flb)

126 Some of us like our backwater counties just the way they are. We don't want something just over the hill. Put the data centers near the big cities and leave us alone.

Posted by: fd at October 15, 2025 07:32 AM (vFG9F)

127 Folks who want to own a data center should be required to build them alongside a source of cooling water, and within five miles of a nuclear power plant, built for that purpose.

Flooding issues, close to water might also be within 500 year flood plain. Ain't gonna get insurance or financing for that.

What's wrong with building new powerlines onto a grid that is already outdated and strained?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:33 AM (a4flb)

128 115 I question whether these huge data centers are necessary anyway. They use a huge amount of resources for frivolous things like AI cat videos.

Posted by: fd



THE UNIVERSE RUNS ON CAT VIDEOS!!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 15, 2025 07:35 AM (sAmhv)

129 Good morning from Amarillo.
Posted by: Blake
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Mornin, blake. I'm in Plainview til tomorrow. See you soon!

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 15, 2025 07:37 AM (I+xbN)

130 Some of us like our backwater counties just the way they are. We don't want something just over the hill. Put the data centers near the big cities and leave us alone.

I understand that. Poverty and third world infrastructure is desirable in depraved societies that value welfare and sloth over generating wealth.

If people like living in that kind of atmosphere, the third world awaits their relocation.

Its kind of interesting going back in time before America was awash in money and wealth that communities would fight and cheat to get the railway or US highways to come through their area.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:37 AM (a4flb)

131 SnailRacer, you may well be right. 90K people, houses look affordable for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 07:37 AM (omVj0)

132 Help me understand. The citation implies that the reasoning in the cited material is instrumental to the argument. If the source of the citation is bogus, isn't also the argument?

I'm entitled to the entire Howard Hughes estate because of a clause "blah blah blah" in Bangahor v Payduhpimp
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:31 AM (a4flb)

Good point.
But I’m sure for a lot of the arguments there’s a cite somewhere for a case. If there isn’t then you have no argument.

This would mean looking it up and finding a cite yourself but the AI can write out the rest, which is all this is really about; lawyers trying to get out of writing the same crap in a brief over and over.

Rocket Lawyer and other sites can just about do everything for you now. I had to use it to write a Will for my Dad.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:40 AM (6ydKt)

133 I question whether these huge data centers are necessary anyway. They use a huge amount of resources for frivolous things like AI cat videos.


I think it is a necessary step to full automation and dark factories. This generation and those that are to follow, at least in the West, are profoundly lazy and unreliable. You can't feed a welfare state off the backs of 300# young adults who are addicted to pr0n, cheezeballs and psychotropics.

Japan has figured it out that the young people aren't going to support the generations that busted their asses to provide a world for them to prosper, so they went crazy on robotics.

At the very least, it fronts the money to build modular reactors that are necessary to power a post-modern society.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:41 AM (a4flb)

134 SnailRacer, you may well be right. 90K people, houses look affordable for me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2025 07:37 AM (omVj0)

How’s the humidity in Fort Smith?
Is it tolerable?
It’s close to the Ozarks, I think, so maybe.
Gotta be better than N.O, at any rate,

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:43 AM (6ydKt)

135 Japan has figured it out that the young people aren't going to support the generations that busted their asses to provide a world for them to prosper, so they went crazy on robotics.

At the very least, it fronts the money to build modular reactors that are necessary to power a post-modern society.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 15, 2025 07:41 AM (a4flb)

China’s going the same way for the same reasons.

There are over 2 million robots doing work in robot only factories with a skeleton crew of people making sure everything is running.

Read an article about that the other day.
I expect South Korea will be doing the same thing soon.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 15, 2025 07:46 AM (6ydKt)

136 Thanks Pix, I just enrolled my Win 10 machine in the extended security update, so ~safe until next Oct. Got it for free for some reason.

System - Windows Updates - Enroll.

Posted by: Candidus at October 15, 2025 08:47 AM (BGRju)

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