The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Canada, Mexico, and Australia are the heavy hitters in beef imports to America...the rest of the countries are a small fraction of the total. A combination of robust demand, bad weather, high feed prices, and all of the other factors that make cattle ranching a tough business have conspired to shrink American cattle herds. Canada and Mexico probably had similar difficulties, and of course, Australia has problems of its own. That's the nature of ranching.

America consumes the most beef of any country in the world, and while that is a credit to us, our wealth, and our refined palates, it also exposes us to the greatest market pressures.

(By the way, pay no attention to the correlation between Democrat presidents and the beef supply.)

And as the basic laws of economics suggest, when supply shrinks, prices tend to go up when demand is consistent or rising, so there is...get this...pricing pressure to increase supply! I know, that's just crazy talk. It's not like cattle ranchers enjoy making money or anything. They are obviously in the business for altruistic reasons, and are more than willing to cut prices even though they have fewer head to sell, just so you and I can enjoy more good American corn-fed beef! I for one am very pleased that the immutable laws of economics have been repealed for the cattle industry, because beef is one of my favorite foods!

At least that is what President Trump is suggesting.

Trump says US cattle producers benefiting from tariffs, need to drop beef prices

President Donald Trump says U.S. cattle ranchers are benefiting from tariffs he has imposed on imports but must lower prices to encourage American consumers to buy their beef.
Trump earlier this week said the administration was considering importing Argentine beef as a means of lowering record-high consumer beef prices. The suggestion angered U.S. ranchers. U.S. farmers also recently lost out to Argentina on soybean sales to China.
"The Cattle Ranchers, who I love, don't understand that the only reason they are doing so well, for the first time in decades, is because I put Tariffs on cattle coming into the United States, including a 50% Tariff on Brazil," Trump wrote in a post Wednesday, Oct. 22, on Truth Social. "They also have to get their prices down, because the consumer is a very big factor in my thinking, also!"

Did you notice the inane, stupid, and gratuitous shot at Trump in the quotation? What the hell does the soybean market have to do with the subject of the article?

Anyway, President Trump is mistaken that his bully pulpit is an appropriate use for demanding that American cattle ranchers do exactly the wrong thing to ease high beef prices. His suggestion is simply nonsense. The only way beef prices will come down (and every Econ 1 student knows this), is if those ranchers see the high prices and decide to raise more cattle. That's how economies work, and directives from the President smack of price controls, five-year-plans, central planning, and all sorts of interference by bureaucrats into the unimaginably complex decisions that run market economies.

If President Trump wants to help beef prices come down in America, he should streamline the bureaucratic roadblocks to cattle production and processing. Maybe end the ridiculous ethanol boondoggle so more of that corn can be fed to cattle. Maybe ease the Department of Agriculture's byzantine rules on slaughter. Maybe tell the EPA to back the f*ck off of farmers and cattle ranchers.

There is a lot he can do, but simply demanding that the beef industry cut their prices isn't one of them.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2025 11:00 AM (xatjc)

2 And dutifully called

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2025 11:01 AM (xatjc)

3 Cattle? See them at Walmart.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 23, 2025 11:01 AM (MPQZ2)

4 And this isn't a hat trick

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2025 11:01 AM (xatjc)

5 First

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 23, 2025 11:02 AM (8RjCi)

6 Darn

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 23, 2025 11:02 AM (8RjCi)

7 So far, my clients have not had to worry about their, how you say, 'beef' supply.

Posted by: Paolo at October 23, 2025 11:02 AM (0sNs1)

8 I wish Trump or someone would stop what's being done to cattle ranchers in the West: reintroducing wolves that are now feasting on cattle.

Here in CO this effort was spearheaded by Polis and his animal activist husband. Did they say they wanted to destroy the cattle industry in this state? No. However, that's what this will do. As well as inflict pain on red parts of the state.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

9 combination of robust demand, bad weather, high feed prices, and all of the other factors that make cattle ranching a tough business have conspired to shrink American cattle herds. "

Whew. Missed us...

/FedGov

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:03 AM (tubbA)

10 Ya need to keep them dogies movin'.

Posted by: Rowdy Yates at October 23, 2025 11:04 AM (0sNs1)

11 If President Trump wants to help beef prices come down in America, he should streamline the bureaucratic roadblocks to cattle production and processing.

Isn't it *four* yuge corps which control something like 80-90% of processing in the US?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 23, 2025 11:04 AM (ULPxl)

12 Canada, Mexico, and Australia are the heavy hitters in beef imports to America
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Surely you mean "exports".

Posted by: Eeyore (Is, Eum) at October 23, 2025 11:04 AM (s0JqF)

13 When adjusted for population growth those numbers look even uglier.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM (PGEno)

14 >>If President Trump wants to help beef prices come down in America, he should streamline the bureaucratic roadblocks to cattle production and processing.

Last fall there was a CO ballot initiative to outlaw beef processing in the Denver area. There is a real war on livestock being waged by the Democrats and globalists.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM (GbwPZ)

15 As well as inflict pain on red parts of the state.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:03 AM

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

* wing flaps in unison *

Posted by: Big Penguin at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM (0sNs1)

16 We eat only free-range, grass-fed, okra so this affects us not at all.

Posted by: Sheridan and Tarquin at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM (oftw2)

17 there is an entire regulatory state developed that chokes beef. There are interstate rules that don't allow shipment from one state to another. There are slaughter rules.

Deregulate the beef industry!

Posted by: Jeff Carter (@pointsnfigures1) at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM (ZiwLX)

18 That whole paragraph is right, too.

I am very happy to live where I have several *small* processors to choose from.

...also, that graph doesn't show the US beef herd is at its lowest since the *1950s*, and as some other Moron pointed out, therefor at about *half* the ratio of people to cows for now vs then.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 23, 2025 11:06 AM (ULPxl)

19 I wish Trump or someone would stop what's being done to cattle ranchers in the West: reintroducing wolves that are now feasting on cattle.

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Big city liberals know far better how rural people should live than rural people do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (L/fGl)

20 Have not had a piece of beef in 5 years. Not because I don't want to.

Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (QljVP)

21 Add to all this school districts declaring Neat Free Mondays and shit like that.

The left wants you eating bugs and soy. It may take 100 years to get there but they’ll get there.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (PGEno)

22 Last fall there was a CO ballot initiative to outlaw beef processing in the Denver area. There is a real war on livestock being waged by the Democrats and globalists.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:05 AM

Colorado. If it's a shitty idea, they'll look at it, say "that's not nearly shitty enough," empanel an Enshittification Commission to generate an idea no less than twice as shitty, and then pursue that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (P1ov+)

23 Big city liberals know far better how rural people should live than rural people do.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (L/fGl)
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I used to live in Susanville. Tell me about it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 23, 2025 11:07 AM (yy9ow)

24 Eat mor chick'n!

Posted by: The Cows of Chick-Fil-A at October 23, 2025 11:08 AM (0sNs1)

25 No working knowledge so the best that I can figure out:

The US has had a cattle shortage for many decades.

Reportedly, Argentina's production is too small to make a major difference in the large U.S. market, and rebuilding the domestic herd will take years.

U.S. ranchers are repeatedly shafted.
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What is the solution to make a better future? IDK.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 23, 2025 11:09 AM (NFX2v)

26 Surely you mean "exports".

Posted by: Eeyore (Is, Eum) at October 23, 2025 11:04 AM (s0JqF)

They are exporting...we are importing. I don't care about their exports; I care about our imports.

Hmmm....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:09 AM (n9ltV)

27 Many of our weiners and all of our water they stew in, pre-date the chart above, some dating to the Wagner administration in the 60s.

Posted by: 14th Street Sabrett Vendor at October 23, 2025 11:09 AM (oftw2)

28 Of course people like Polis still eat steak. And they always will. They just don’t want YOU eating steak.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:09 AM (PGEno)

29 We could direct that illegals are hoboes and process them like Ace does. Crawl spaces are a great way to age beef.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:09 AM (jFCkp)

30 Maybe President Trump is doing the usual 'say something that riles people up, then gets them to do what he wants' talk?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 23, 2025 11:10 AM (uQesX)

31 Here in CO this effort was spearheaded by Polis and his animal activist husband. Did they say they wanted to destroy the cattle industry in this state?

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Ahh, the let them eat cake initiative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at October 23, 2025 11:10 AM (L/fGl)

32 Of course people like Polis still eat steak.

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Dicksteak.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 23, 2025 11:10 AM (P1ov+)

33 Here in CO this effort was spearheaded by Polis and his animal activist husband. Did they say they wanted to destroy the cattle industry in this state?

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Ahh, the let them eat cake initiative.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at October 23, 2025 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
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I think, with Polis, it's "let them eat cock."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 23, 2025 11:11 AM (yy9ow)

34 Every once in awhile Trump makes a declaration like that and I wish I had the hotline number so I could be the one that tells him "We love you big guy, but you didn't really think that one through. Maybe drop the topic, or reassess your position."

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2025 11:11 AM (TN0g+)

35 Maybe rump steak from time to time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 23, 2025 11:12 AM (P1ov+)

36 What does wolf taste like?

Posted by: Barry Soetero at October 23, 2025 11:12 AM (oftw2)

37 What does wolf taste like?
Posted by: Barry Soetero at October 23, 2025 11:12 AM (oftw2)
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Chicken, probably.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 23, 2025 11:12 AM (yy9ow)

38 Trump saying this is a little concerning. It could be just political talking points “see I care about these things and want to lower prices for you” . Hopefully it’s that and not a precursor to price controls.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (PGEno)

39 And, of course, Top Sir Loin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (P1ov+)

40 Last fall there was a CO ballot initiative to outlaw beef processing in the Denver area"

There's now a "local sale ok" set of laws circulating around parts of Texas...

But still, don't move here. Too hot, too many guns and trucks...

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (tubbA)

41 >>Big city liberals know far better how rural people should live than rural people do.

CA transplant activists know it all, right?

Fron last year: The [CO] first gentleman. . . got into an exchange with a Walden rancher named David Gittleson.

"Your industry is no more important to the economy of Colorado than any other industry," Reis wrote. The truth is I don't care ... I don't care why your family seems to love the limelight and never misses an opportunity to trash talk the Front Range. If you're proud of being a rancher, act like it. All this complaining is leading nowhere fast,"

Ranchers should just shut up and let wolves destroy their livelihood!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (GbwPZ)

42 36 What does wolf taste like?
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Most likely dog. Ask Barry Obama.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (jFCkp)

43 Last fall there was a CO ballot initiative to outlaw beef processing in the Denver area. There is a real war on livestock being waged by the Democrats and globalists.
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There's a lot of agriculture in Colorado's economy--their leaders simply don't give a damn about their people or good governance.

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2025 11:13 AM (TN0g+)

44 We could direct that illegals are hoboes and process them like Ace does. Crawl spaces are a great way to age beef.
Posted by: Pudinhead

HEB Grocery Store.
Dry aged refrigerated case right next to the fresh beef case. Mmmmmmmm.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:14 AM (XmFj4)

45 Trump's doing many good and useful things. This is not one of them.

I wonder where he got this idea from...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:15 AM (OUMaO)

46 Maybe drop the topic, or reassess your position"

Considering that the statement is aimed at the "big 4", I'd say it's spot on.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:15 AM (tubbA)

47 The US has had a cattle shortage for many decades.

Work out the reasons for that...which are known...and you see the real problem...and the ultimate solution.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:17 AM (OUMaO)

48 45 Trump's doing many good and useful things. This is not one of them.

I wonder where he got this idea from...
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My read of it is he wants to help Milei be successful in Argentina. Creating a way to bulk his currency up is the best way to do it. Much better than drugs.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:17 AM (jFCkp)

49 One of only three RR iron mfg plants is shutting down. 500 jobs. Don better stop this. You know damned well it's coal and imports causing this. Once we lose them we don't get them back usually. Then market is owned by foreigners.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2025 11:18 AM (tWxR8)

50 #47,

Yep. Sugar industry anyone?

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:19 AM (tubbA)

51 Trump's doing many good and useful things. . . . .
Posted by: Brother Tim

For this Moron, the most important thing he has done, more than any other Repub President is he drives the left absolutely nuts. They are so enraged that they sound and act even more childish than they did earlier.

Which is truly saying something.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 23, 2025 11:19 AM (cYBz/)

52 My read of it is he wants to help Milei be successful in Argentina. Creating a way to bulk his currency up is the best way to do it. Much better than drugs.

Posted by: Pudinhead

Which, OK, but I didn't vote for him to be "Argentina First"...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)

53 I had heard we are also facing some parasite issue?

Posted by: Black JEM at October 23, 2025 11:19 AM (GZYu7)

54 53 I had heard we are also facing some parasite issue?
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Screw Worm. He hangs out at the bus station.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:20 AM (jFCkp)

55 I wish Trump or someone would stop what's being done to cattle ranchers in the West: reintroducing wolves that are now feasting on cattle.

Here in CO this effort was spearheaded by Polis and his animal activist husband. Did they say they wanted to destroy the cattle industry in this state? No. However, that's what this will do. As well as inflict pain on red parts of the state.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

Is there not a Federal anti-terrorism law that makes it a crime to introduce biological agents that could render harm to agriculture?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:20 AM (8zz6B)

56 I had heard we are also facing some parasite issue?

Posted by: Black JEM

Screwworms. It's a perennial issue that got bad recently for reasons.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:20 AM (OUMaO)

57 ‘ There is a lot he can do, but simply demanding that the beef industry cut their prices isn't one of them.
’

I hope Trump isn’t foolish enough to think this will help anything.
I think he’s just saying so he can claim he’s working on it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

58 You are mostly correct here. Short term relief is not really available but it will take more than one season to ramp up domestic production to the equilibrium level wherever that may be.

Your key statement, and the crux of the problem, is, and I quote, "he should streamline the bureaucratic roadblocks". Once again, this is the solution instead of tariffs. The bureaucracy and its rules, rules, RULES! are the problem. Tariffs can not and will not solve this but will only make things worse for the consumer (you!). Get rid of the government interference and production will naturally increase, prices will come down and there will be a new favorable equilibrium which will include some portion of foreign produced beef. All will be cheaper than today.
The tariffs feed right into the hands of Gates and his lab produced meat as it will become more attractive, to some, than natural beef because of prices. EOL.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at October 23, 2025 11:22 AM (P7Iz+)

59 Why, in my day, you could buy meat anywhere! Eggs they had, real butter! Fresh lettuce in the stores.

Posted by: Sol at October 23, 2025 11:22 AM (R/m4+)

60 I had heard we are also facing some parasite issue?
Posted by: Black JEM

We've been facing a Democrat issue for years.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:22 AM (XmFj4)

61 Which, OK, but I didn't vote for him to be "Argentina First"...

Granted, but helping geopolitical allies is useful for us. Especially since USAID was fucking with them for 50 years prior.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:22 AM (2ocoG)

62 Which, OK, but I didn't vote for him to be "Argentina First"...
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Meh, Argentina being successful for being normal has positive effects on Bolivia, Argentina and hopefully, Brazil. Squeezing out the China influence is likely the strategy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:23 AM (jFCkp)

63 Actually here's a good primer on the whole screwworm thing:

https://is.gd/lcEI1r

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:23 AM (OUMaO)

64 I guess it is still a surprise to some people that tariffs lead to a price increase in the domestic market. SMH.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at October 23, 2025 11:23 AM (P7Iz+)

65 I guess it is still a surprise to the stupid trolls that everything they said about tariffs has turned out to be wrong under Trump. SMH.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:25 AM (2ocoG)

66 Black JEM: the screwworms are (so far) contained, but yes they are nasty.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:15 AM (tubbA)

The "big 4" would be Tyson, JBS, Cargill, and National Beef. They're the ones putting much of the squeeze on ranchers, their suppliers. They may need breaking up. Mind, this could well result in beef prices going up too; but at least then Argentine imports might not hurt as much.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 23, 2025 11:25 AM (gKWVE)

67 If chemjeff would stop immolating half the red meat and CBD would stop ruining the rest with plastic bags and lukewarm water, prices might improve.

Posted by: Don't mistreat the meat at October 23, 2025 11:25 AM (TbWk/)

68 They are so enraged that they sound and act even more childish than they did earlier.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 23, 2025 11:19 AM (cYBz/)

Listen to the CutJibNewsletter podcast. Sefton and I talk about that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:25 AM (n9ltV)

69 Beef prices will come down, President Trump knows this, which is why he said something.

He's taking advantage of how markets work so, when prices drop, going into the mid terms, he can say, "see!"

*I'm assuming cattle currently being raised will hit the markets in about 10 months or so.

Ben Had or Rancher Bob may have better insight.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:25 AM (tT6L1)

70 If chemjeff would stop immolating half the red meat and CBD would stop ruining the rest with plastic bags and lukewarm water, prices might improve.

Wasn't CBD busy with the Louvre?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:26 AM (2ocoG)

71 I had heard we are also facing some parasite issue?
Posted by: Black JEM

We've been facing a Democrat issue for years.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:22 AM (XmFj4)
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heh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:26 AM (tT6L1)

72 but simply demanding that the beef industry cut their prices isn't one of them."

Sure is. It's a shot across the bow that "friends in government" aren't.

Always keep in mind the adage on regulating buying and selling...

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:26 AM (tubbA)

73 18
‘ that graph doesn't show the US beef herd is at its lowest since the *1950s*’
If this is true it entirely explains the shortage.

Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:27 AM (jbnUc)

74 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?

I suspect the ultimate cause is going to be that the WEF and UN both want the peasants to not be able to eat beef.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:27 AM (2ocoG)

75 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:27 AM (jbnUc)

IT WAS IN THE POOL!

Posted by: Shrinkage wrapping at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (TbWk/)

76 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?
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The higher cost of feed being used to make ethanol?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (jFCkp)

77 They may need breaking up. "

They own the regulators.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (tubbA)

78 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?

ranchers over-ranched

there's a lot more to this which was explained to me by someone at Aramark but I can't remember. something something during Biden term they were encouraged to cull like crazy to keep prices domestically down a bit

now they're all scrambling to rebuild their herds which takes longer than chickens

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (emBoF)

79 It also doesn't help there have been several herd cullings in recent years, either from disease or economic forces (can't afford the feed--I remember this from back during the COVID business). It's kept the cattle inventory artificially low as a result, which given how the Left seems to hate cattle and beef and being able to feed people in general, may have been the point.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (OUMaO)

80 Beef prices are high in Canada, too. Around nine Loonies per pound on ground beef. And I live in cow country. I can see cows grazing from my kitchen window.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:29 AM (8zz6B)

81 Math? On the blog? Heaven forfend!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 23, 2025 11:29 AM (WV0oi)

82 Wasn't CBD busy with the Louvre?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:26 AM (2ocoG)

There are a few dozen pieces that I would absolutely, 100% steal if I could get away with it, but none are in the Louvre!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:29 AM (n9ltV)

83 they said about tariffs has turned out to be wrong"

Well, "they" don't seem to know the difference between "costs" and "prices", so...

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:29 AM (tubbA)

84 They may need breaking up. "

They own the regulators.
Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:28 AM (tubbA)

Big Food is controlled by a handful of megacorp oligopolies. They didn't get that way without government cooperation.

Posted by: It's quite fascist, same with health care at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (TbWk/)

85 If they only let EBT be used for vienna sausages and spam beef prices would go down.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (7NHGZ)

86 Ah, will do CBD!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)

87 Righteous rant, CBD!

Also a pleasure to meet and chat with you and your better half this past weekend. Cheers!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (I8nLU)

88 anyway due to our ranchers actually "using" so many beef cattle they do have to rebuild that

so for now it makes sense (sadly) to import and if we must import, I like Argentina/Milei for that

meanwhile I have local guys to get meat from. the Amish kind of ream you on price but their stuff is good. but we tend to go to non-Amish local ranchers instead just on price. unless we're feeling flush!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (emBoF)

89 The King Sooper down the street puts ground beef on sale from time to time, and I always stock up when they do. I also keep an eye out for 'manager's specials' on marked-down steaks.

and once in a great while I will say 'WTF' and go to the high end butcher and pay premium for a magnificent slab of cow meat.

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 11:31 AM (AOsQT)

90 may have been the point."

*shocked face* No!

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:31 AM (tubbA)

91 Are cattle ranchers being assessed an X number $'s per head to offset their farts yet? I seem to recall seeing that was coming. Also adding expensive components to their food to make them pass less gas for Mother Earf? Everything's so fake and ghey anymore, I don't know what's real and what isn't.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2025 11:31 AM (qBdHI)

92 the beef thing has ZERO to do with tariffs

problems started way before any of that

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 23, 2025 11:31 AM (emBoF)

93 I've about had it with ethanol in gasoline. I can't get the message through to Troy Nehls, Ted Cruz or Jan McCain.

Posted by: DanMan at October 23, 2025 11:31 AM (8uzBS)

94 "There is a lot he can do, but simply demanding that the beef industry cut their prices isn't one of them."

Did I miss something in the Trump statement? Where did he demand that they cut their prices? From what I read, it appears as though he said "They also have to get their prices down".
Where, precisely, in that statement does he say they must cut their prices?
Cutting prices and getting prices down are NOT the same thing. Ranchers can get the prices down by increasing their herds. There may even be options for streamlining the pasture to grocery store process that could lower costs and prices. That isn't " cutting " prices it's bringing the price down by using market practices.
"Cutting" the price suggests they should drop prices without lowering costs and take a financial loss.
When has Trump ever suggested that private business owners should ignore profit/loss to give hand outs to consumers? I can't think of an example, but if someone else can I would like to see a link to that.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 23, 2025 11:32 AM (2J/Lj)

95 79 It also doesn't help there have been several herd cullings in recent years, either from disease or economic forces (can't afford the feed--I remember this from back during the COVID business). It's kept the cattle inventory artificially low as a result, which given how the Left seems to hate cattle and beef and being able to feed people in general, may have been the point.

yep Tim

and I think it was more "icing on the cake" than "the point" but either way the Left would like us to not raise cattle here in the US. they show that pretty plainly all the time.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 23, 2025 11:32 AM (emBoF)

96 I had a ribeye for dinner last night.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 23, 2025 11:32 AM (W2Pud)

97 . They didn't get that way without government cooperation."

"cooperation". As in voluntary?

/heh

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:32 AM (tubbA)

98 My wife's family raise cattle, so every year we buy a steer and get it butchered and fill our freezer. This year the steer was exceptionally large (but not tough, actually, one of the best we've ever had), so large we had to purchase another freezer! We put over 700# of beef, bones, and tallow in the freezer a couple weeks ago.

Factoring in processing, the price works out to about $4-5 a pound, but that includes all cuts - steaks, brisket, ground beef, roast, etc. It's a great deal if you can find a source and manage the storage. The quality is generally much above store-bought beef.

We're in Texas and the beef comes from north of Hondo.

Posted by: Sloucho at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (bX7qw)

99 The King Sooper down the street puts ground beef on sale from time to time, and I always stock up when they do. I also keep an eye out for 'manager's specials' on marked-down steaks.

Have to scrape off the green shit and that weird iridescent bacterial sheen when you unwrap them though.

Posted by: It's still in the sell by date, swearsies! at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (TbWk/)

100 Big Food is controlled by a handful of megacorp oligopolies. They didn't get that way without government cooperation.

Every regulatory regime in the US has been captured by its clients. It's so consistent it has to be a feature at this point.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (2ocoG)

101 recession warning: US recession probability now at a staggering 93%, says UBS. UPDATE 🚨 U.S. INFLATION CLIMBS BACK ABOVE 2.25% WITH SEPTEMBER CPI HITTING 2.9%

I wouldn't be surprised if we were already there, we definitely are in some industries for sure. The last person to tell the truth got fired. I have zero faith in the current Trump stooges reporting.

Didn’t someone re-define the textbook definition of a recession by saying 2 consecutive GDP declines was never fully acknowledged as an indicator? Yea I remember that

No. NBER is the only one that can declare a recession and it has been that way. The 2 consecutive quarters thing was a measuring stick used by some economists and the general public as an easy way to track economic health.

We technically would be in a "official" recession if it wasn't for companies bringing in a ton of products pre tarrifs, then post tarrifs the import numbers were so cooked that it cooked the numbers so bad.

I visited my parents the other day and on Fox News. They were screaming about how the economy is roaring inflation is down and prices are down while hiring is through the roof. 🤪 🤡

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (JCZqz)

102 96 I had a ribeye for dinner last night.
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I stumbled into a great buy of 4 steaks at Food Lion last week. They were delicious.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (jFCkp)

103 The really cool thing at Che Blake? I can pick up a really nice premium quality ribeye and it's enough to feed the lovely Mrs. Blake and I.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (tT6L1)

104 Madamemayhem (uppity wench)"

Righteous rant!

*applauds vigorously *

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:34 AM (tubbA)

105 64
‘ Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz’

Could you type your nickname at the top of your comments from now on?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:34 AM (jbnUc)

106 The US has had a cattle shortage for many decades.

Work out the reasons for that...which are known...and you see the real problem...and the ultimate solution.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 11:17 AM (OUMaO)

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I know nothing about ranching, but folks like Glenn Beck -- whom I believe has (or had, as he's now recently relocated from Texas to Florida, and also has a home, but not sure if it too is a ranch in Idaho) -- have been warning for years that large corporate entities (perhaps multi-national GloboHomo Oligarchs?) have been buying out small local ranches.

The GloboHomo Oligarchy never rests ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (I8nLU)

107 My wife's family raise cattle, so every year we buy a steer and get it butchered and fill our freezer. This year the steer was exceptionally large (but not tough, actually, one of the best we've ever had), so large we had to purchase another freezer! We put over 700# of beef, bones, and tallow in the freezer a couple weeks ago.

Factoring in processing, the price works out to about $4-5 a pound, but that includes all cuts - steaks, brisket, ground beef, roast, etc. It's a great deal if you can find a source and manage the storage. The quality is generally much above store-bought beef.

We're in Texas and the beef comes from north of Hondo.
Posted by: S

this is the way to go if you find somebody youtrust, who is a good farmer / rancher / cow grower

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (1uKmh)

108 Market forces at work, after all of the government restrictions, regulations, inspections, and oversights. Short term, we need increased beef imports and a handle on the screwworm crisis. Presidents can't control the weather and they shouldn't even think of price controls, but US beef production has hit significant headwinds of our own making.

It's past time for the administration and Congress to get off the dime and minimize regulations and bring competition back to food production, or else we'll all be eating fake "meat".

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (rj6Yv)

109 Didn’t someone re-define the textbook definition of a recession by saying 2 consecutive GDP declines was never fully acknowledged as an indicator? Yea I remember that

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (JCZqz)

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Me too. Throughout Biden's presidency.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (DRSnL)

110 Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (JCZqz)

They live in a wholly different reality that has no connection to actual real reality.

Posted by: It's psychotic levels of delusion at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (TbWk/)

111 I know nothing about ranching, but folks like Glenn Beck -- whom I believe has (or had, as he's now recently relocated from Texas to Florida, and also has a home, but not sure if it too is a ranch in Idaho) -- have been warning for years that large corporate entities (perhaps multi-national GloboHomo Oligarchs?) have been buying out small local ranches.

The GloboHomo Oligarchy never rests ...

Careful. You're sounding a bit like Bernie Sanders now.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

112 96 I had a ribeye for dinner last night.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 23, 2025 11:32 AM (W2Pud)

I am envious...

Posted by: tubal at October 23, 2025 11:36 AM (QljVP)

113 Careful. You're sounding a bit like Bernie Sanders now.

Bernie supports Big Anus buying everything though.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 23, 2025 11:36 AM (2ocoG)

114 else we'll all be eating fake "meat"

By George, I think he's got it!

/

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:36 AM (tubbA)

115 I made Mr. Black a 2 1/2 lb boneless beef shoulder this week. It was an eye-watering $32.00. Even having it for dinner 2 nights still stings.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2025 11:37 AM (qBdHI)

116 Paul Joseph Watson on Japan's turn from 3rd world immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH_mkC4Kmvk

Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)

117 We had our car in the shop, maybe two weeks, to have a rear wheel bearing replaced, mechanic decided it was the rear differential, which he replaced. Car was returned and with the brand new, warranty covered differential, has the same bearing noise.

sigh

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:38 AM (1uKmh)

118 Careful. You're sounding a bit like Bernie Sanders now.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 23, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

Sanders is 100% on team globohomo. They own him from the tips of his custom loafers to the ends of his unkempt gray hair.

Posted by: He loves his dachas at October 23, 2025 11:38 AM (TbWk/)

119 I visited my parents the other day and on Fox News. They were screaming about how the economy is roaring inflation is down and prices are down while hiring is through the roof. 🤪 🤡
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (JCZqz)

Drive around the greater Phoenix area, and you will see billboards that read "we are hiring". Ditto for Texas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:39 AM (8zz6B)

120 Have to scrape off the green shit and that weird iridescent bacterial sheen when you unwrap them though.

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 23, 2025 11:39 AM (MPQZ2)

121 The really cool thing at Che Blake? I can pick up a really nice premium quality ribeye and it's enough to feed the lovely Mrs. Blake and I.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:33 AM (tT6L1)

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Wonderful to meet you last Saturday, blake!

We have a handful of local ranchers with non-GMO and grass-fed beef -- and one in Skull Valley that particularly interests The Wifey as they explicitly advertise their beef as being non-MRNA (another thing RARE beef-eaters need to be wary of) -- but they're understandably pricier than say our alternatives at Costco.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:40 AM (I8nLU)

122 Around here, local farms are bypassing the corporate road and selling directly to the consumer. About 4-5 places around here sell beef or pork with some chicken and lamb thrown in at certain times of the year.

I've only sampled the pork products and the beef from one farm and it was pretty good. Shelf life is short unless frozen. And then, only for a few months.

Prices are inching towards minor heart attack levels though.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 23, 2025 11:40 AM (Q4IgG)

123 Brook Rollins was on Maria this morning and she said yesterday the Department of Agriculture released a program of many of the points being offered here about removing restrictions, increasing processing plants etc. I haven’t seen it yet. I believe the removal of tariffs on Argentina beef is probably to negotiate something Trump wants from them. Rollins said that the 2M pounds of beef we import is not of the quality the 10M pounds American ranchers and farmers raise. She also spoke of getting imput costs down and opening 5M acres of federal land to ranchers.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 23, 2025 11:41 AM (mI5Z1)

124 grass fed beef is garbage

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:41 AM (1uKmh)

125 Big Food is controlled by a handful of megacorp oligopolies. They didn't get that way without government cooperation.
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I will always believe that General Mills and Big Cereal paid big big bribes to have the government approve and release the Food Pyramid.

Posted by: Crusader at October 23, 2025 11:41 AM (TN0g+)

126 We have a handful of local ranchers with non-GMO and grass-fed beef -- and one in Skull Valley that particularly interests The Wifey as they explicitly advertise their beef as being non-MRNA

--

That's another worrying aspect we have to consider these days. I don't want any piece of beef that's been injected with an MRNA vaccine. And I know it's happening.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2025 11:42 AM (qBdHI)

127 Rent increases for single family home in August was at a 15 year low. Only 1.5%. Price of eggs has plummeted to $1.50.

But Reddit and the entire MSM is convinced inflation is out of control.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:43 AM (PGEno)

128 78
‘ ranchers over-ranched

there's a lot more to this which was explained to me by someone at Aramark but I can't remember. something something during Biden term they were encouraged to cull like crazy to keep prices domestically down a bit’

Thanks. Culling the herd would explain the smaller size.
But there’s no way they could have thought that culling would *reduce* prices.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:43 AM (jbnUc)

129 Lots of helicopter noise last night. Chasing copper wire thieves.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 23, 2025 11:44 AM (MPQZ2)

130 Factoring in processing, the price works out to about $4-5 a pound, but that includes all cuts - steaks, brisket, ground beef, roast, etc. It's a great deal if you can find a source and manage the storage. The quality is generally much above store-bought beef.

We're in Texas and the beef comes from north of Hondo.

Posted by: Sloucho

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I want to start buying our beef on the hoof. Would definitely need another chest freezer first.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at October 23, 2025 11:44 AM (F2xQR)

131 Math? On the blog? Heaven forfend!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 23, 2025 11:29 AM

I, for one, would like to see this phobia overcome.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at October 23, 2025 11:44 AM (0sNs1)

132 But there’s no way they could have thought that culling would *reduce* prices.

supply and demand?

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:44 AM (1uKmh)

133 Sanders is 100% on team globohomo. They own him from the tips of his custom loafers to the ends of his unkempt gray hair.

Posted by: He loves his dachas at October 23, 2025 11:38 AM (TbWk/)

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* fist bump *

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:44 AM (I8nLU)

134 Also a pleasure to meet and chat with you and your better half this past weekend. Cheers!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:30 AM (I8nLU)

Nice meeting you too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:45 AM (n9ltV)

135 Got a chuck roast cut up and stewing in the slow cooker. Started at almost 3 pounds, after trimming fat probably a half-pound lighter. Cost $35. It'll turn out to be 6 servings.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 23, 2025 11:45 AM (NcvvS)

136 Switch to pork for the rest of this year. Beef will be back next year.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 23, 2025 11:46 AM (jc0TO)

137 Drive around the greater Phoenix area, and you will see billboards that read "we are hiring". Ditto for Texas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:39 AM (8zz6B)

60-70% of stores on Main St in my burg have Help Wanted signs. Fast food is paying $17-20 an hour and $500 sign on bonuses. But yeah there are jobs anywhere!!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:46 AM (PGEno)

138 I keep pointing out Trump isn't a conservative.
Trying to manipulate the market is just one indicator.

He's still one of the best President's we've had in a long while.

Posted by: GWB at October 23, 2025 11:46 AM (6Us78)

139 All I know is that on my ride back from the Texas MoMe I must have saw 1000's of heads of cattle hanging out in fields. We got the beef. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (snZF9)

140 Shain, great to meet both you and your wife in TX.

Your wife is pretty sharp. You married up, didn't you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)

141 Thanks. Culling the herd would explain the smaller size.
But there’s no way they could have thought that culling would *reduce* prices.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:43 AM

It will right after the cull as meat floods the market.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (jc0TO)

142 Drive around the greater Phoenix area, and you will see billboards that read "we are hiring". Ditto for Texas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

127 Rent increases for single family home in August was at a 15 year low.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

What could result in drastic hiring spikes in Southern border states, and a drop in housing demand, lowering rent prices? You'd have to remove something like 2 million people from the country, which is ridiculous and impossible...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 23, 2025 11:48 AM (JCZqz)

143 96
‘ I had a ribeye for dinner last night.’

Did it taste expensive?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc)

144 On Reddit I made a comment about something related to Trump. Some dummy snarking replied to me “how is that egg price thing going”. To which I posted a graph of egg prices plummeting since March and going great thanks for asking.

To his credit the poster replied back to me saying wow I had no idea. These people live in a world of their own.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:48 AM (PGEno)

145 grass fed beef is garbage
Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:41 AM (1uKmh)

Back in the '50's through '70's, there was a chain of "Woodwards" department stores in B.C. Very fine stores, and they had awesome grocery departments. First time i ever saw live lobsters in tanks.
Anywa, the founder of the chain, C.M. "Chunky" Woodward, owned a ranch in the Cariboo country, and once a year, Woodwards stores would have a big sale on grass-fed beef off his ranch. Much awaited by the foodies. Back in the day, beef were normally fattened on barley, not corn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:49 AM (8zz6B)

146 That's another worrying aspect we have to consider these days. I don't want any piece of beef that's been injected with an MRNA vaccine. And I know it's happening.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 23, 2025 11:42 AM (qBdHI)

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Indeed. I wasn't previously aware of this, but The Wifey has been very attuned to and researching/reading news about all that crap since the multiple Covid PsyOps.

[Oh, there I go again sounding exactly like Bernie Sanders ...]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:49 AM (I8nLU)

147 Grain fed cattle are happy cattle, well, right up until ..

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 23, 2025 11:50 AM (jc0TO)

148 We're in the process of clearing out the garage freezers to make room for half a cow. Splitting the whole cow with our daughter's family.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 23, 2025 11:50 AM (kanec)

149 138 I keep pointing out Trump isn't a conservative.
Trying to manipulate the market is just one indicator.

He's still one of the best President's we've had in a long while.
Posted by: GWB

True. He understands systems and markets are best, but the public cares much more about results than how they are achieved. So, he focuses on delivering first.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 23, 2025 11:50 AM (JCZqz)

150 Ditto for Texas."

NO. We're full here.

Buc-ee's out front should've told you...

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:50 AM (tubbA)

151 How is grain fed cattle better than grass fed? Aren’t cows designed to eat grass? That’s kinda what they do naturally right?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (PGEno)

152 I was going to tell a joke about a girl who only eats plants, but you've probably never heard of herbivore.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (XmFj4)

153 Lot of crazy stuff out there. Saw on X, but I skipped over, I should have bookmarked, someone claiming there is beef for sale that has no origin on the label and that this is because it is lab grown. Could be a nut, but man, after covid, it is not as easy to dismiss this stuff as it was before.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (Dv3i1)

154 You'd have to remove something like 2 million people from the country, which is ridiculous and impossible..."

Hmmmm.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:52 AM (tubbA)

155 Back in the day, beef were normally fattened on barley, not corn.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Back before John Barleycorn had to die.

Posted by: Traffic at October 23, 2025 11:52 AM (JCZqz)

156 but you've probably never heard of herbivore"

Let me ruminate over that....

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:53 AM (tubbA)

157 117
‘ Car was returned and with the brand new, warranty covered differential, has the same bearing noise.’

It’s probably the wheel on the other side.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

158 but you've probably never heard of herbivore"

Let me ruminate over that....
Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:53 AM

It cud be.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (jc0TO)

159 How is grain fed cattle better than grass fed? Aren’t cows designed to eat grass? That’s kinda what they do naturally right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Grass is what they eat until time to go to the feed lot.
Grain fattens them up. Grass doesn't.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (XmFj4)

160 ow is grain fed cattle better than grass fed? Aren’t cows designed to eat grass? That’s kinda what they do naturally right?
Posted by: Its

grain fed have better texture, better flavor, and the cows prefer the grain.

grass fed was for poor countries until hipsters decide it was the thing

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (5K7By)

161 151 How is grain fed cattle better than grass fed? Aren’t cows designed to eat grass? That’s kinda what they do naturally right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

I believe grain fed graze pastures much less, and grain is more energy dense, so grain fed cattle have fattier, more marbled and more tender meat?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (JCZqz)

162 I told yous about my $5 and $6 a pound Ribeyes at thr Kroger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 11:54 AM (7NHGZ)

163 There are many links in the chain from growing cattle to a nice fat juicy steak on your plate. So the cost of steal on your plate isn't one-to-one with the cost of or amount of cattle.

That being said, I see nothing wrong with Trump putting pressure on Big Beef by pointing out he helped them with the tariffs so now it's time to help the consumer. I will add that it won't be surprising when they respond by lowering prices. What's the worst that can happen? They respond to the pressure by lowering prices, however they can?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

164 I was going to tell a joke about a girl who only eats plants, but you've probably never heard of herbivore.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (XmFj4)

OMG! Now THAT'S a dad joke.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (PSEDc)

165 [snip]

Woodwards stores would have a big sale on grass-fed beef off his ranch. Much awaited by the foodies. Back in the day, beef were normally fattened on barley, not corn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:49 AM (8zz6B)

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[If you didn't see my response to one of your comments yesterday: The Wifey and I really enjoyed getting to meet, chat, & hang-out with you (and AZ Deplorable and blake) last weekend!]

We have a nearby ranch, in Chino Valley, called the "Lazy L," that produces Black Angus beef which is grass-fed and finished on a special feed blend known as Sweet C.O.B. (corn, oats, barley) and red wine.

Wait, Sweet COB? In a CBD thread? I'm invoking OCD and re-labeling it B.C.O.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (I8nLU)

166 My breakfast today is instant biscuits from the refigerated tube, spread with home-made blackberry jam given to me by Gingy, wife of Weird Dave. It is yummy.

Thank you, Gingy!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (8zz6B)

167 Back before John Barleycorn had to die.
Posted by: Traffic"

Takes a lot of blind faith to play in traffic...

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (tubbA)

168 What's an herbivore?

Posted by: ... at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (iQWsH)

169 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:27 AM (jbnUc)

The divorce rate with daddy and mama cattle are through the roof nowadays.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 23, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)

170 What's an herbivore?
Posted by: ...

$20. Same as in town.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:56 AM (XmFj4)

171
Back in the '50's through '70's, there was a chain of "Woodwards" department stores in B.C. Very fine stores, and they had awesome grocery departments. First time i ever saw live lobsters in tanks.
Anywa, the founder of the chain, C.M. "Chunky" Woodward, owned a ranch in the Cariboo country, and once a year, Woodwards stores would have a big sale on grass-fed beef off his ranch. Much awaited by the foodies. Back in the day, beef were normally fattened on barley, not corn.
Posted by: Alb

it is funny how much better thing were before, now I am starting to sound the same as my grandfather.

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:56 AM (5K7By)

172 Herbivores go on to become food.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 11:56 AM (7NHGZ)

173 What's an herbivore?"

$20, same as...oh, nevermind.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (tubbA)

174 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Drought hurting feed production.
Screwworms hurting cattle production.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (XmFj4)

175 I was going to tell a joke about a girl who only eats plants, but you've probably never heard of herbivore.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (XmFj4)

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* snort *

[Took The Wifey a few seconds to slowly sound it out, and she goes "Oh, boo!"]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (I8nLU)

176 You married up, didn't you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)

Most of us did...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (n9ltV)

177 Meatballs are on.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (7NHGZ)

178 166 My breakfast today is instant biscuits from the refigerated tube, spread with home-made blackberry jam given to me by Gingy, wife of Weird Dave. It is yummy.

Thank you, Gingy!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Damn. The balls you've gotta have to call out a fellow Moron like that, publicly. And she made you breakfast afterwards? Way to rub it in his face. Might as well share how she like her eggs, too...

Posted by: VERY confused Moron... at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

179 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?

they sold off the seed stock

see spr

Posted by: n at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (5K7By)

180 Damn. Too slow on the draw.

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (tubbA)

181 @Rightanglenews
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1h
BREAKING - New Orleans Democrat Mayor LaToya Cantrell is refusing to repay the $30,000 in taxpayer funds that she spent illegally on first-class flights to France and Switzerland, justifying her actions by stating it’s “unsafe for black women to fly economy.”

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (AOsQT)

182 My cousin raises beef cattle. Last year she had a side of beef that she needed to line up a buyer for so she could get the cow to the processor. She called me. We got over 300#s of beef that filled our upright freezer. Price was for beef plus processing around $1000. We still have ground beef, a couple of roasts, some steak, and a Ginormous brisket. I have no idea how to cook brisket. No we do not own a smoker nor will we be getting one.
Next time, maybe I'll just get a quarter instead of a side of beef.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (2J/Lj)

183 Vegetables are what food eats.

Posted by: toby928(c) reminds you at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (jc0TO)

184 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?"

1400 Independence Ave.?

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 11:59 AM (tubbA)

185 Now only one thing comes from Texas. Steers not so much.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 11:59 AM (7NHGZ)

186 [If you didn't see my response to one of your comments yesterday: The Wifey and I really enjoyed getting to meet, chat, & hang-out with you (and AZ Deplorable and blake) last weekend!]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:55 AM (I8nLU)

Likewise, Shain! I am only here in AJ for a day or towo more, and must head back to the GWN, but will return later in the season.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 12:00 PM (8zz6B)

187 You married up, didn't you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)

Most of us did...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (n9ltV)

Sigh...very true. Poor Mrs B is serving hard time on planet earth.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 23, 2025 12:00 PM (snZF9)

188 Ginormous brisket. I have no idea how to cook brisket"

*cries in Texan*

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 12:00 PM (tubbA)

189 But there’s no way they could have thought that culling would *reduce* prices.

I think they mean short-term, temporary price reduction caused by increasing beef on the market with all the culled. Which makes sense to a politician because they're only thinking about today's polls, not long-term consequences.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (YVuAl)

190 Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Any time anything threatens cattle production, ranchers rush to dump beef while prices are high.
No one wants to carry beef while prices are low.

And there's a small window (1 to 2 years) where the beef is good to sell. After feeder steers get to a certain age, it almost costs more to get them to market vs what they are worth.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (XmFj4)

191 Drought hurting feed production.
Screwworms hurting cattle production.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (XmFj4)

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I'm pretty sure I saw The Screwworms open for somebody ...

[Does quick search on Screwworms and gets this initial result:]

The New World screwworm, a parasitic fly that lays eggs in open wounds and whose larvae feed on living tissue, has been detected in cattle in Nuevo León, Mexico, just 70 miles from the U.S. border, prompting renewed concerns about its potential invasion into the United States.

This development follows a series of import suspensions and heightened surveillance efforts, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture continues to halt live cattle, horse, and bison imports from Mexico to prevent the spread of the pest.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (I8nLU)

192 ‘ It will right after the cull as meat floods the market.’

Of course. I should have known they didn’t cremate the culled cattle.
But that’s a short term bump in supply. With a long term shortage as a result.
Were the ranchers required to do this?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (jbnUc)

193 Some wag suggests Trump should do Burger King for No Kings Day.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (tWxR8)

194 @Rightanglenews
·
1h
BREAKING - New Orleans Democrat Mayor LaToya Cantrell is refusing to repay the $30,000 in taxpayer funds that she spent illegally on first-class flights to France and Switzerland, justifying her actions by stating it’s “unsafe for black women to fly economy.”

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (AOsQT)

Maybe she needs a seat on Air Pinochet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 23, 2025 12:02 PM (snZF9)

195 188 Ginormous brisket. I have no idea how to cook brisket"

I believe the Jews make brisket and it's not smoked...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 23, 2025 12:02 PM (VE6XX)

196 Thanks. Culling the herd would explain the smaller size.
But there’s no way they could have thought that culling would *reduce* prices.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 11:43 AM

It will right after the cull as meat floods the market.

Posted by: toby928(c)

Same logic as emptying the Strategic Petroleum Reserves to lower gas prices...from the same batch of geniuses...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 12:02 PM (OUMaO)

197 Damn. The balls you've gotta have to call out a fellow Moron like that, publicly. And she made you breakfast afterwards? Way to rub it in his face. Might as well share how she like her eggs, too...
Posted by: VERY confused Moron... at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

LOL. Well played.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 12:02 PM (8zz6B)

198 Screwworms hurting cattle production.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (XmFj4)
****
This made my head hurt.

Posted by: JFK Jr. at October 23, 2025 12:03 PM (tWxR8)

199 from the same batch of geniuses..."

*looks up and down DC avenues...*

Posted by: man at October 23, 2025 12:03 PM (tubbA)

200 [Took The Wifey a few seconds to slowly sound it out, and she goes "Oh, boo!"]
Posted by: ShainS

LOL

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 12:03 PM (XmFj4)

201 188 Ginormous brisket. I have no idea how to cook brisket"

Smoked brisket is chef's kiss but not the only game in town. It can be done low and slow in the oven. It also makes for a great hamburger.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at October 23, 2025 12:04 PM (F2xQR)

202 Why didn't the U.S. Department of Agriculture solve this?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 12:04 PM (7NHGZ)

203 >Does anyone have the rundown on why the herd got so small?"
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cattle rustlers

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 12:04 PM (AOsQT)

204 GloboHomo Oligarchy is just an idea.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at October 23, 2025 12:05 PM (L/fGl)

205 I blame Canadia.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 23, 2025 12:05 PM (7NHGZ)

206 You married up, didn't you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)

Most of us did...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!]

Sigh...if anyone knows of a rich widow willing to take on a middle-aged, badly overweight, periodically depressive individual with a recent history of cancer, let me know...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 23, 2025 12:05 PM (OUMaO)

207 190
‘ After feeder steers get to a certain age, it almost costs more to get them to market vs what they are worth.’

So. There’s a timing factor. Does culling the herd one year automatically reduce next year’s herd or do the ranchers set aside a certain number of cattle as ‘seed ‘ cattle so they don’t run short on supply?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

208 Sigh...very true. Poor Mrs B is serving hard time on planet earth.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 23, 2025 12:00 PM (snZF9)

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The Wifey and I both really enjoyed meeting Poor Mrs. B -- an adorable doll!

While I was making an ass out myself dancing & singing, she turns to Wifey and says "Is he always like this?" lol

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 12:05 PM (I8nLU)

209 >Maybe she needs a seat on Air Pinochet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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she's a BBW, by the way

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 12:06 PM (AOsQT)

210 There's a meat market/butcher shop in Avinger, Texas (east Texas), that cuts all of their ribeyes for the week on Monday. What doesn't sell by Saturday gets ground up into hamburger meat.

That is some dang good burger meat.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 12:07 PM (XmFj4)

211 NOOD illegal trucker

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at October 23, 2025 12:07 PM (F2xQR)

212 209
‘ Maybe she needs a seat on Air Pinochet.

she's a BBW, by the way’

So, she’ll make a bigger splash.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 23, 2025 12:07 PM (jbnUc)

213 CANNONBALL!!

Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 12:09 PM (AOsQT)

214 And there's a small window (1 to 2 years) where the beef is good to sell. After feeder steers get to a certain age, it almost costs more to get them to market vs what they are worth.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 12:01 PM (XmFj4)
****
So you're saying I was doing it wrong?

Posted by: Zombie Jake McCandles at October 23, 2025 12:09 PM (tWxR8)

215 she's a BBW, by the way
Posted by: Don Black at October 23, 2025 12:06 PM (AOsQT)

That autonomous helicopter from last evening's ONT is just the answer. Ten thousand pound payload, IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2025 12:09 PM (8zz6B)

216 So. There’s a timing factor. Does culling the herd one year automatically reduce next year’s herd or do the ranchers set aside a certain number of cattle as ‘seed ‘ cattle so they don’t run short on supply?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

The mama cows keep producing. Optimal timing for feeder cattle, mainly steers, at one to two years old. Heifers are generally kept to replace aging out mama cows.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 12:10 PM (XmFj4)

217 Shain, great to meet both you and your wife in TX.

Your wife is pretty sharp. You married up, didn't you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 23, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)

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Dude!

Did I tell you the story on how I was literally living in a van when we met (at work)?

* Cue Chris Farley and "The Man In The Van Down By The River" (except in this case, it was down by the Pacific Ocean *

[I was actually working a 6-figure job and did so by choice because I was paying the mortgage on my prior home purchased with the ex-girlfriend ... but still. lol]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 12:10 PM (I8nLU)

218 I have no idea how to cook brisket. No we do not own a smoker nor will we be getting one.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 23, 2025 11:58 AM (2J/Lj)

No need. I used a recipe from a Jewish cookbook and my oven. (I got side eye when I mentioned the oven-and-not-a-grill at the MoMe.) Covered in the oven for 3 hours. It was fantastic.

Posted by: GWB at October 23, 2025 12:11 PM (6Us78)

219 Got here just in time to send a pic of the chart and miss the thread.
drat the luck

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 23, 2025 12:11 PM (Ffc+8)

220 175 I was going to tell a joke about a girl who only eats plants, but you've probably never heard of herbivore.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 23, 2025 11:51 AM (XmFj4)

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* snort *

[Took The Wifey a few seconds to slowly sound it out, and she goes "Oh, boo!"]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 11:57 AM (I8nLU)

So, your saying she had to ruminate for a few seconds?

Posted by: goozer at October 23, 2025 12:13 PM (BAs8w)

221 So, your saying she had to ruminate for a few seconds?

Posted by: goozer at October 23, 2025 12:13 PM (BAs8w)

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Noice!

Since we got WILLOWED, I'll post our comments in a future thread.

Cheers!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 23, 2025 12:14 PM (I8nLU)

222 ow is grain fed cattle better than grass fed? Aren’t cows designed to eat grass? That’s kinda what they do naturally right?
Posted by: Its

grain fed have better texture, better flavor, and the cows prefer the grain.

grass fed was for poor countries until hipsters decide it was the thing

Posted by: n

Given how much genetic modification has been done to corn, grass fed beef is much, much better for you.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 23, 2025 12:15 PM (0U5gm)

223 Clocking in 🕚 late today. Howdy.

President Donald Trump says U.S. cattle ranchers are benefiting from tariffs he has imposed on imports but must lower prices…

Can't expect a New York realty mogul to understand animal agriculture all that well, I guess.

The gals out in the pasture have been doing their part to increase supply. Nine calves frolicking around, last I checked, with a few more on the way. MiladyJo got a snapshot of a calf not even an hour old. So cute.

You're right about slaughterhouse rules. Milady drew my attention to the link on the Morning Report yesterday about the beef processing backlog. States should be given more power, regulation being a federal monopoly.
American Greatness
https://bit.ly/4oxBipg

Just saw a video about a big bug problem I hadn't known about. The war on flesh-eating flies.
https://youtu.be/zxq60I5RSW8

Eat more Oklahoma beef, y'all. 🤠

Posted by: mindful webworker - too smart for my own good at October 23, 2025 12:16 PM (A//+n)

224 do the ranchers set aside a certain number of cattle as ‘seed ‘ cattle so they don’t run short on supply

they should, but in this case they mostly didn't

again this was explained to me lol but I have the memory of a 29 year old!

but basically the mess happened bc of Biden-era herd mismanagement - the fedgov messing with pricing and the large scale ranchers just going along and not thinking things thru (or being pushed that way, maybe but I think they just went with it and took the $$ bc feed prices were so high)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 23, 2025 12:19 PM (emBoF)

225 34 -- Crusader -- I've got to agree with you. He does get carried away with himself on occasion, and I do cringe every now and again.

Living here in Nebraska, I'm a lot closer to the beef production problem than a lot of other people. The last few winters out here have been absolutely horrible. Hellacious winds from the north. Bitter cold. And damn all snow. For this, I'm actually grateful to have moved from the house to an apartment. No freezing my ass off, shaking beads at my butterfly bushes and howling at the sky for at least a few snowflakes.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at October 23, 2025 01:07 PM (DK5Sh)

226 True, President Trump should know that his bully-pulpit should be used primarily for calling Democrats who cry, "Fwee, Fwee, Fwee Palestine" to be the Nazis they are acting like when they demand a global intifada against Jews. Yes, that includes the reincarnation of Heinrich Himmler himself, Zohran Mamdani.

Posted by: wferrin at October 23, 2025 02:19 PM (lCdHU)

227 We do not have free markets. We have controlled markets. All the inputs into the markets are controlled.

Here in the US, we a too big to fail scenario, were we only have four entities that can butcher and process meat to markets.

You can increase the inputs by 10,000,000 but if new producers cant come online to solve the bottle, more product wont reach the market just b/c you increased inputs.

Posted by: mossomo at October 23, 2025 02:28 PM (mttHV)

228 It's almost like Trump is a retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

Posted by: Sirkowski at October 23, 2025 02:45 PM (q1uXh)

229 well now I know why the beef cubes I bought this a.m. resulted in a case of sticker shock

no worries though, if I were a serious carnivore I'd keep an eye open for the weekly specials the markets run. At some point even beef will be on sale. Stock up, that's what the freezer is for.

but since I'm only slightly carnivore, the beef prices really won't affect me that much

Posted by: kallisto at October 23, 2025 03:21 PM (dCxaZ)

230 I live in a mostly Agricultural zone lots of Cows, Sheep, Pork and Poultry and we don't want PETA jerks telling us how to live

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 23, 2025 05:30 PM (wGqjj)

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