Mid-Morning Art Thread

Portrait of a Man, Said to be Christopher Columbus (born about 1446, died 1506)
Sebastiano del Piombo

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 art

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 13, 2025 09:30 AM (gbOdA)

2 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:31 AM (3sX9I)

3 The MET

Title: Portrait of a Man, Said to be Christopher Columbus (born about 1446, died 1506)

Artist: Sebastiano del Piombo (Sebastiano Luciani) (Italian, Venice (?) 1485/86–1547 Rome)

Date: 1519

Medium: Oil on canvas

Dimensions: 42 x 34 3/4 in. (106.7 x 88.3 cm)

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 13, 2025 09:31 AM (gbOdA)

4 Long fingers . . .

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 13, 2025 09:31 AM (vK/Ja)

5 Ministry of Silly Little Hats

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:31 AM (3sX9I)

6 Looks like he just burped.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (Q4IgG)

7 Nicely done CBD

Posted by: Skip at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (xatjc)

8 Dig the hat!

Posted by: Susquehanna Hat Company! at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (oftw2)

9 If Mona Lisa was a tranny.
Would hang , thx CBD. Happy Monday

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (L1Wxc)

10 Long fingers . . .
Posted by: Czech Chick

But not girthy.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (3sX9I)

11 Long fingers, years of wrapping around ropes on ships

Posted by: Skip at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (xatjc)

12 Alternate title:

"Momma Mia, thata wasa spicy meat-ball!"

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (iJfKG)

13 The date of 1519 on this badly damaged portrait indicates that, if it represents Columbus, it was painted posthumously. An explanation may come, however, from the visit of Columbus’s son to Rome in 1516–17, where the highly regarded artist Sebastiano del Piombo would have been an appropriate choice to memorialize his father.

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

14

No more jalapeños!

Posted by: Elderly Git at October 13, 2025 09:33 AM (Sx6wJ)

15 Looks like he just burped.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

*note to self: that was not a fart

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:33 AM (3sX9I)

16 Great Choice! Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: redridinghood at October 13, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)

17 Alternate title:

"Colombus Misses Out On Being Napoleon By Six Inches and a Piece of Cloth"

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2025 09:34 AM (iJfKG)

18 He look like a man.

Posted by: Miss Swan at October 13, 2025 09:34 AM (ULPxl)

19 Ministry of Silly Little Hats

Piper needs to do a thread on the silly hats fashion trend.

Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at October 13, 2025 09:34 AM (b5rE7)

20 It works.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 13, 2025 09:35 AM (GbwPZ)

21 1492! The year that will live in infamy!

Posted by: Pagan New World Tribes at October 13, 2025 09:35 AM (oftw2)

22 In 14 hundred and 92
Columbus sailed the ocean blue
And when he saw what he had done
He wanted to go back to 14 hundred and 91

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 09:35 AM (L/fGl)

23 Dude's carrying a lot of fabric.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 13, 2025 09:36 AM (vYF78)

24 The light bulbs were angry that day my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at October 13, 2025 09:36 AM (ZdGdU)

25 What do the words on the upper part of the painting say?

Posted by: dantesed at October 13, 2025 09:36 AM (Oy/m2)

26
He'd look more cheerful if he had a dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2025 09:36 AM (LgZmy)

27 I'm in the mood for some pizza.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 13, 2025 09:37 AM (NpAcC)

28 Funny, doesn't look like Gerard Depardieu.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:38 AM (77rzZ)

29 Slave ships traveled in the wake of Columbus. Sharks still ply the sea lanes where my people were thrown overboard.

Posted by: Major Owens Sad Refrain at October 13, 2025 09:39 AM (oftw2)

30 Would like to see "Indigenous Peoples' Day" in a limerick.

Posted by: Person who likes limericks at October 13, 2025 09:39 AM (ZdGdU)

31 He'd look more cheerful if he had a dog. Not art.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

There was at least one dog on one of Columbus' voyages.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:39 AM (77rzZ)

32 Alternate title:

"No...No, My Collar's Not Ermine. I Have To Save Money For the Trip to India Dealio I'm Doing, So I Had a Few Cats Skinned"

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2025 09:39 AM (iJfKG)

33 Me waking up in the morning.

https://is.gd/2PT2Rf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 09:39 AM (L/fGl)

34 Christopher Comlobus.

One of the greatest Mariners ever!

And Ichiro. And Jr. and now, Cal
Raleigh!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 13, 2025 09:40 AM (4+U8N)

35 Sorry sorry sorry. I didn't mean to hit that button.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 09:40 AM (L/fGl)

36 🚫Indigenous Peoples' Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 13, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)

37 It is the Age of Sail. That right hand is on the head of the cabin boy.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at October 13, 2025 09:41 AM (MZ+PY)

38 Looks like he just burped.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 13, 2025 09:32 AM (Q4IgG)
-

Kodak Moment ™

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 13, 2025 09:41 AM (yF8Zh)

39 27 I'm in the mood for some pizza.
Posted by: redridinghood

Fuhgedaboutit! Moyock Pizza Kitchen is closed on Mondays.

Posted by: Oh, The Huge Manatee!!! at October 13, 2025 09:41 AM (oftw2)

40 Christopher Comlobus.

One of the greatest Mariners ever!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 13, 2025 09:40 AM (4+U8N)
-

I dunno. My meat and fish marinades are pretty good.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 13, 2025 09:42 AM (yF8Zh)

41 Thank you, Mr. Columbus and Mr. Vespucci, for providing me the ability to not be living in a tent and the ability to wear shoes.

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2025 09:44 AM (PRqXW)

42 Columbus invented Marinara Sauce.

Posted by: Little Known Culinary Facts at October 13, 2025 09:44 AM (oftw2)

43 Thanks for naming that gulf after me!

Posted by: Vespucci's ghost at October 13, 2025 09:45 AM (ZdGdU)

44 Hmmm... Columbus again. I sense a theme.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 09:45 AM (ExV1e)

45 41 Thank you, Mr. Columbus and Mr. Vespucci, for providing me the ability to not be living in a tent and the ability to wear shoes.

Posted by: Piper

And Bustles!

Posted by: The Debil Wears Prada at October 13, 2025 09:45 AM (oftw2)

46 29 Slave ships traveled in the wake of Columbus. Sharks still ply the sea lanes where my people were thrown overboard.
Posted by: Major Owens Sad Refrain

Learn to swim?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 13, 2025 09:46 AM (6TWkg)

47 Yep, looks like him !

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 09:46 AM (g47mK)

48 That portrait says, "AARRHG! This is the end! I'm comin' home, Lizbeth!"

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 13, 2025 09:47 AM (g8Ew8)

49 Christopher Comlobus.

One of the greatest Mariners ever!

Posted by: nurse ratched

Right field?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:47 AM (3sX9I)

50 I thought spanish men are supposed to be good looking? This guy looks ..... unfortunate.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at October 13, 2025 09:47 AM (DJ7uY)

51 I don't have much admiration for Columbus as a person. He was kind of a confidence man, and fell afoul of his patroness, Queen Isabella.

That said, he was enormously brave and a superb navigator, and his discovery of the New World (even though he always thought that it was still part of the Old) was the most significant event in secular world history.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

52 Classical music station here said that today is "Indigenous Peoples Day". I said "Nope; It's Columbus Day."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 09:48 AM (rZCVI)

53 No idea if this is Columbus, of course. Given Columbus' dates, Piombo would have been very young to capture a living portrait. I wonder if the artist was working from some earlier portrait. This shows Piombo's great talent for realism but it is so plain and muted compared to his many other paintings which burst with brilliant color, even his stand alone portraits. The history behind this portrait would be interesting.

Having said that, this portrait of a serious, determined man is very effective and fits with the popular image of Columbus as a driven explorer.

Posted by: JTB at October 13, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw)

54 I thought spanish men are supposed to be good looking? This guy looks ..... unfortunate.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder

Christopher was Italian, so...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 09:49 AM (3sX9I)

55 "Someday, a city named in my honor will have the even greater honor of hosting THE Ohio State University."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:50 AM (77rzZ)

56 49 Christopher Comlobus.

One of the greatest Mariners ever!

Posted by: nurse ratched

Right field?

+++

I don't know.

Posted by: Third base! at October 13, 2025 09:50 AM (ZdGdU)

57 Admiral of the Ocean Sea.

He brought Christianity to the New World. Before that, the natives knew nothing but human sacrifice, cannibalism, and slavery. While the Conquistadors failed in eliminating slavery (and even promoted it), they stomped out the human sacrifice and cannibalism. Millions of the natives converted to Catholicism.

Our Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 09:51 AM (pJWtt)

58 Thank goodness my last name wasn't Cleveland.

Posted by: Captain Chris at October 13, 2025 09:51 AM (ZdGdU)

59 30 Would like to see "Indigenous Peoples' Day" in a limerick.
Posted by: Person who likes limericks

*Clears throat*
Oh "Indigenous Day," what a farce, they say,
Columbus got lost, but he should still get a day!
With a snicker and scoff,
We’ll just brush it all off,
Our roots rock this land, and we celebrate the histor-ay!

Okay, where is Muldoon!

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2025 09:52 AM (PRqXW)

60 Ministry of Silly Little Hats

Piper needs to do a thread on the silly hats fashion trend.
Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at October 13, 2025 09:34 AM

Followed by a thread on festive little hats.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 13, 2025 09:53 AM (Wnv9h)

61 Thank goodness my last name wasn't Cleveland.
Posted by: Captain Chris

Or Chillicothe. Or Gallipolis.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:54 AM (77rzZ)

62 60 Ministry of Silly Little Hats

Piper needs to do a thread on the silly hats fashion trend.
Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at October 13, 2025 09:34 AM

Followed by a thread on festive little hats.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 13, 2025

I did do a Derby Hat historical dive, that should count!

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2025 09:54 AM (PRqXW)

63 Hey! How's about some love for me. I was a pretty fair explorer and navigator! Why don't I get a day?

Posted by: Giovanni Caboto, AKA John Cabot at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (oftw2)

64 Thank goodness my last name wasn't Cleveland.
Posted by: Captain Chris at October 13, 2025 09:51 AM (ZdGdU)

Or Newark.

Posted by: dantesed at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (Oy/m2)

65 Thank goodness my last name wasn't Cleveland.
Posted by: Captain Chris

Or Chillicothe. Or Gallipolis.
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:54 AM (77rzZ)

Or O-Shag-Hennesy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (ExV1e)

66 Valiant effort Piper!
Thanks!

Posted by: Person who likes limericks at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (ZdGdU)

67 He started out to find a western route to Asia but bumped into America. So the U.S. celebrates by having Columbus Day sales with SOME people taking the day off with pay. But most of the pee on's still have to work.

Posted by: Case at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (9HFDU)

68 Piper just does chick fashion, right? Chicks don't go much for festive little hats.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

69 Hey! How's about some love for me. I was a pretty fair explorer and navigator! Why don't I get a day?
Posted by: Giovanni Caboto, AKA John Cabot at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (oftw2)

No day for you, jackass, but-

I think they named the cabbage after you.

Now, go make some Colombus Day ceremonial cole slaw!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2025 09:57 AM (iJfKG)

70 He thinks he is Napoleon.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 13, 2025 09:57 AM (ufFY8)

71 And besides, you morons might never have enjoyed the Beaver Trade without me!

Posted by: Giovanni Caboto at October 13, 2025 09:58 AM (oftw2)

72 Other than govt does anyone have today off? Schools are open. Stock market is open. Not much love for ole Chris anymore.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 09:58 AM (5Yz+T)

73 Hey! How's about some love for me. I was a pretty fair explorer and navigator! Why don't I get a day?
Posted by: Giovanni Caboto, AKA John Cabot at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (oftw2)

Yeah, but you also founded that town where everyone gets murdered by Angela Lansbury.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

74 Thank goodness my last name wasn't Cleveland.
Posted by: Captain Chris

Or Chillicothe. Or Gallipolis.
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:54 AM (77rzZ)

Or O-Shag-Hennesy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (ExV1e)

Or Lippshitz.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 13, 2025 09:59 AM (g8Ew8)

75
Is anybody actually promoting the sharks in the slave shipping lanes story?

Slave shipping lanes = the shipping lanes. Same.

Ships throw garbage over the side. Thousands of times more mass than any dead bodies. Garbage attracts fish. Fish attract sharks. To this day.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 13, 2025 09:59 AM (ES1Rb)

76 In fourteen-hundred and ninety-two A sailor from New Delhi
Was walkin' round the streets of Spain Sellin' hot tamales
He said the world was round-o He said it could be found-o
That navigational, calculational son-of-a-gun Columbo
He marched right up to Isabelle demanding ships and cargo,
He said he'd be a son of a gun if he didn't bring back Chicago.
Said Ferdinand to Isabelle his plan looks mighty hazy,
Said Isabelle to Ferdinand I think the fellows crazy.

"Just wait a bit," said Isabella. "Let's not forget essentials,
For I've a mind to think this out And check on his credentials."
The queen she gave him three fine ships they all were triple decker.
The queen waved her handkerchief Columbo just gave a snicker.
The first mate the first mate His toes were like a Pigeon
He wrapped a rope around the mast And climbed right up the riggin'
He said the world was round-o He said it could be found-o
That navigational, calculational son-of-a-gun Columbo

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 13, 2025 09:59 AM (WQDw6)

77 36 🚫Indigenous Peoples' Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 13, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)

But "indigiqueer" lives on!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 13, 2025 09:59 AM (ufFY8)

78 How's about some love for me. I was a pretty fair explorer and navigator! Why don't I get a day?
Posted by: Giovanni Caboto, AKA John Cabot at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (oftw2)

They named two continents after me and I get bupkus.
- Amerigo Vespucci

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:00 AM (5Yz+T)

79 Hey! How's about some love for me. I was a pretty fair explorer and navigator! Why don't I get a day?
Posted by: Giovanni Caboto, AKA John Cabot at October 13, 2025 09:55 AM (oftw2)

There had been decades of lobbying the U.S. Congress by Italians and the Knights of Columbus to honor Christopher Columbus with a national holiday. We forget that Italians had faced severe discrimination in the early 20th Century here in the U.S.

One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:00 AM (pJWtt)

80 Indigenous Peoples' Day.

==

some bank sent me a notice that they will be closed for "Indigenous People's Day"....

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (g47mK)

81
Any shark species that wasted time and energy searching for bodies hundreds of years after they quit dumping them would starve.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (ES1Rb)

82 There had been decades of lobbying the U.S. Congress by Italians and the Knights of Columbus to honor Christopher Columbus with a national holiday. We forget that Italians had faced severe discrimination in the early 20th Century here in the U.S.

One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

We declared war on Austria-Hungary in WWI for the sake of the Italian vote, and to get them behind the war effort.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

83 Yes Piper, the Derby Hat compilation gives you chapeau amnesty until 2027.

Posted by: Ministry Of Silly Hats at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (oftw2)

84 In fourteen hundred and ...

Wait! Has somebody already said that???!

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:03 AM (aURVT)

85 And besides, you morons might never have enjoyed the Beaver Trade without me!
Posted by: Giovanni Caboto

Thanks for the clap! Oh, wait. Wrong beaver.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:03 AM (3sX9I)

86 Yeah, but you also founded that town where everyone gets murdered by Angela Lansbury.
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

Mom loved that Murder She Wrote tv show. I always aggravated her when I told her that the character Jessica Fletcher was interfering with criminal investigations, and needed to be arrested!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (pJWtt)

87 Everything I know about Christopher Columbus, I learned from that Bugs Bunny cartoon.

For example, did you know that the Queen of Spain looked and sounded exactly like Mae West?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (BHrzb)

88 Hudson got a river and a bay. That’s not bad.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (5Yz+T)

89 One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

What was I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Al Capone at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (oftw2)

90 some bank sent me a notice that they will be closed for "Indigenous People's Day"....
Posted by: runner

Funny. Casinos are open today.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (3sX9I)

91 Posted by: JTB at October 13, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw

I was not at all familiar with this painter, aside from Colombiusso I looked him up . Beautiful green dress on "Portrait of a lady with attributes of Saint Agatha", interesting color dress on a grumpy looking woman who looks like a fatter version of Greta Thunberg. That portrait is of Salome with the head of John the Baptist. Also he has several pictures of Jesus carrying the cross.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 10:05 AM (rZCVI)

92 Hudson got a river and a bay. That’s not bad.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Earnie? Who ya gonna call?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:05 AM (3sX9I)

93 Funny. Casinos are open today.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (3sX9I)

hahah ! hey ! that gives me an idea !

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:06 AM (g47mK)

94 The title is basically a community note!

I choose to believe that it is Columbus.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:07 AM (B2vkr)

95 M'aiq is sure a hat like that gets you a free bowl of soup.

Posted by: M'aiq the Liar at October 13, 2025 10:08 AM (2oCXm)

96 Mexica

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 13, 2025 10:08 AM (ufFY8)

97 My son, Sebastian Cabot, was most famous for his portrayal of Mr. French on Family Affair.

Posted by: John Cabot at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (oftw2)

98 Mexican food hasn't been invented yet, why does he have heartburn?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (ufFY8)

99 some bank sent me a notice that they will be closed for "Indigenous People's Day"....
Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (g47mK)
++++
Send 'em back a copy of Trump's Presidential Proclamation that no, it isn't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (B2vkr)

100 94 The title is basically a community note!

I choose to believe that it is Columbus.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:07 AM (B2vkr)

======

"Mi chiamo Franco..."
-the guy in the painting, for several hundred years

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)

101 72 Other than govt does anyone have today off? Schools are open. Stock market is open. Not much love for ole Chris anymore.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 09:58 AM (5Yz+T)

++++

Large woke corporations can't (and don't) pass up the chance to celebrate the Indigenous Peoples Day.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (syz1S)

102 Indigenous Peoples' Day.

==

some bank sent me a notice that they will be closed for "Indigenous People's Day"....
Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:02 AM (g47mK)

Heh ...

I helped spark a huge uproar within my employer last year when the C-Suite sent out some "Happy Indigenous People's Day" spam email. I advised that was not the name of the Federal holiday, and they had stolen a holiday from a Catholic Italian. The Suits suddenly got swarmed by a bunch of angry emails from the worker-bees.

This year, the C-Suite sent out an anodyne email about celebrating an (un-named) Federal holiday!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (pJWtt)

103 Piper,

I saved this one for you. (Cool dresses, goes to Substack)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (kUxzU)

104 Long fingers, years of wrapping around ropes on ships
Posted by: Skip

Lines or sheets, not ropes.
So I've been told.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (n4GiU)

105 happy Indigenous Peoples' Day
If you are Indigenous and gay
Stand proud mutha fucker
You are one Brave sucker

Posted by: Viking Kitten at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (HcoTw)

106 101 Large woke corporations can't (and don't) pass up the chance to celebrate the Indigenous Peoples Day.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (syz1S)

=====

It's a bank holiday.

Dolley is in bed right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

107 There had been decades of lobbying the U.S. Congress by Italians and the Knights of Columbus to honor Christopher Columbus with a national holiday. We forget that Italians had faced severe discrimination in the early 20th Century here in the U.S.

One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:00 AM (pJWtt)

Well now they've got the Mario Bros!

So, that's enough!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (iJfKG)

108 Dang it!

https://tinyurl.com/833b3y2a

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (kUxzU)

109 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (B2vkr)

That's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (rZCVI)

110 Jessica Machado with more info on the Rt. 195 plane crash in Dartmouth...

https://tinyurl.com/mv392vny

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (TGPs7)

111 In 1493, Columbus sailed the deep blue sea.

Posted by: Dr. Zachary Smith at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (WPL6O)

112 Mexican food hasn't been invented yet, why does he have heartburn?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (ufFY

++++
:: whistles nonchalantly ::

Posted by: Native priest preparing a human sacrifice at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (B2vkr)

113 Stupid Jews applauding Hitler!

Man Compared Frequently To Hitler Gets Standing Ovation From Israeli Parliament For Peace Deal

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (L/fGl)

114 Discount funeral service.

https://is.gd/MULhf8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (L/fGl)

115 I like how she told off the Boston Globe ..

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (TGPs7)

116 You go, girl!

Mark Kelly: Kamala would be an “incredibly strong” presidential candidate for Democrats in 2028.
Yes. Do it. Please.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (L/fGl)

117 One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

What was I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Al Capone at October 13, 2025 10:04 AM (oftw2)

You did, however, leave an empty vault for Jerry Rivers to open on live television, and get pantsed!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (pJWtt)

118 I helped spark a huge uproar within my employer last year when the C-Suite sent out some "Happy Indigenous People's Day" spam email. I advised that was not the name of the Federal holiday, and they had stolen a holiday from a Catholic Italian. The Suits suddenly got swarmed by a bunch of angry emails from the worker-bees.

This year, the C-Suite sent out an anodyne email about celebrating an (un-named) Federal holiday!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (pJWtt)

My company sends out notices about black month, and brown month, and yellow month, and rainbow month, and women's month (rainbow, pretend, or otherwise) month, tranny month, ...

No straight, white, men though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)

119 Dolley is in bed right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

And you're in the comments?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)

120 119 Dolley is in bed right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

And you're in the comments?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)

=====

Gotta give her space for her doom scrolling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:13 AM (GBKbO)

121 I like his portraits that have a little bit of sky seen through a window- nice colors. Sometimes they are more interesting than the people themselves .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 10:13 AM (rZCVI)

122 British politician "Jeevun Sandher" asks county council to remove British flags to make residents feel more comfortable

-
Counterproposal: remove the headchoppers to make residents feel more comfortable

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:13 AM (L/fGl)

123 Bruno Sammartino and Captain Lou Albano define Italian-American excellence to me!

Posted by: Pizza Face Pat at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (oftw2)

124 Not seeing many land acknowledgement statements prefacing comments.

Be better, Horde

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (8AONa)

125 Sailing across a vast stretch of water of unknown size with three wooden ships powered by wind, navigating by the stars to an unclear destination.

Pretty f***ing badass IMO.

Yet today the Dems will be bending a knee to stone age savages with canoes.

Posted by: Ripley at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (GUOwU)

126 I quote the words of the indomitable J.J. Sefton

Death to Islam. Death to Leftism. May God open the hearts, minds and souls to the evil that has possessed them so that they may reject them and repent their evil ways, lest they suffer eternal damnation, and perhaps the righteous retribution at the hands of all of us that they seek to destroy.

If that is the choice they make, may we wield a terrible swift sword of justice and smite them once and for all.

Happy Columbus Day one and all,...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (eL84x)

127 Great thing about all that fabric, as long as you stand still no one knows of the fart for at least an hour.

Posted by: Rainy Day People at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (8Vu57)

128 My company sends out notices about black month, and brown month, and yellow month, and rainbow month, and women's month (rainbow, pretend, or otherwise) month, tranny month, ...

No straight, white, men though.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)
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Why send out some company-wide E-Mail about subhumans we'd rather be without anyway?

Posted by: Woke HR at October 13, 2025 10:15 AM (B2vkr)

129 RIP Diane Keaton.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:15 AM (77rzZ)

130 124 Not seeing many land acknowledgement statements prefacing comments.

Be better, Horde
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (8AONa)

======

A Lumbee once shit on the ground on which my house was built, otherwise it saw no humans for thousands of years.

I dedicate the land on which my house is built to that Lumbee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

131 At Newsweek: "Student Loan Update: Trump Admin Resumes Debt Forgiveness Under Key Program"

WTF?

https://tinyurl.com/azd24npe

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (/E12x)

132 One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

What about Senore Spaghetti, the inventor of food?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

133 129 Concur.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (/E12x)

134 Not seeing many land acknowledgement statements prefacing comments.

Be better, Horde
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 13, 2025 10:14 AM (8AONa)
+++
By virtue of the fact that I am neither on a boat nor floating in space, I thought it would be superfluous to go out of my way to state that I am standing on land.

Since the style of the time is to make that statement, however, I will not buck the trend.

I hereby acknowledge that I am on land.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (B2vkr)

135 Why send out some company-wide E-Mail about subhumans we'd rather be without anyway?
Posted by: Woke HR at October 13, 2025 10:15 AM (B2vkr)

60 more days and you'll have to deal with one fewer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (ExV1e)

136 I dedicate the land on which my house is built to that Lumbee.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Is he the one that Lumb-ees is named after?

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

137 I hope they are protecting this fine painting from the anarchists.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:17 AM (KtOUo)

138 The Mexicans are in the basement.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: diggety schwag at October 13, 2025 10:17 AM (AOsQT)

139 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (B2vkr)

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 10:18 AM (7RYym)

140 113 Man Compared Frequently To Hitler Gets Standing Ovation From Israeli Parliament For Peace Deal
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:10 AM (L/fGl)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:18 AM (aURVT)

141 Apropos of nothing, I paid $2.49 for gas on my weekend travel, and saw, but missed, $2.28 in Monroe LA.

Hail Trump.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (jc0TO)

142 This year, the C-Suite sent out an anodyne email about celebrating an (un-named) Federal holiday!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:09 AM (pJWtt)

My company sends out notices about black month, and brown month, and yellow month, and rainbow month, and women's month (rainbow, pretend, or otherwise) month, tranny month, ...

No straight, white, men though.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)

My employer has toned-down that sort of pandering significantly. I think two factors have driven that decision:

1) The lawyers have warned the C-Suite of potential Civil Rights violations

B) Without heterosexual white males, the business collapses

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (pJWtt)

143
Lines or sheets, not ropes.
So I've been told.
Posted by: From about That Time
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Halyards, stays

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (XeU6L)

144 Today we celebrate the National Day of Christopher Columbus, established in 2004 to honor one of the greatest Italians that Italy can boast of.

With his extraordinary journey 533 years ago, Columbus gave the world another world. He conceived an adventure that no one else before him had imagined. He sailed to the West, beyond the confines of the world known at the time. A “new Ulysses”, who was not shipwrecked but who succeeded in one of the most glorious feats of all time. A feat that marked the transition from the Middle Ages to the Modern Age, rewrote geography and changed political, cultural and economic relations between peoples.

The voyage of Columbus laid the foundations of that indissoluble bond that unites the two sides of the Atlantic, Europe and America, and which represents the core of what we call the West.Not a physical or geographical space, but a system of values that we want to defend and preserve. Our mission is not to tear down the statues of the past and erase the heroes who shaped our identity, but to add our statues and heroes to that story, with pride and humility. ...
_Giorgia Meloni

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (eL84x)

145 Worked VP2MAA Montserrat on 30m last nite, new country for me. 171 countries logged so far

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (/E12x)

146 A day for weeping.

jeremy scahill@jeremyscahill
The scene in the Knesset with Trump is like watching the inverse of a war crimes tribunal. The leaders and facilitators of the Gaza genocide are congratulating each other and applauding their crimes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (L/fGl)

147 I dedicate the land on which my house is built to that Lumbee.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava

You could toast him with your favorite adult beverage, but his inability to process alcohol without going on the warpath could be less than an ideal outcome.

Posted by: Annie Green Springs at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (oftw2)

148 What a glorious Columbus Day! The rain in the Great Lakes region is supposed to start on the weekend, but so far, this has been the best September and October combo ever, probably.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (GPa4z)

149 I acknowledge the land my house stands on belonged to someone else long ago. But the palefaces came here and found America waiting, and it's been so long now, whaddya gonna do. Cheers.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: diggety schwag at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (AOsQT)

150 jeremy scahill

Uh ... who?

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (jc0TO)

151 isa bella pizza

Posted by: cmeat at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (R11M+)

152 146 A day for weeping.

jeremy scahill@jeremyscahill
The scene in the Knesset with Trump is like watching the inverse of a war crimes tribunal. The leaders and facilitators of the Gaza genocide are congratulating each other and applauding their crimes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (L/fGl)

======

Realpolitik:

War crimes are for the losers of wars.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (GBKbO)

153 On this Canadian Thanksgiving, I am thankful I'm not Canadian.

Posted by: Wally at October 13, 2025 10:21 AM (7CamO)

154 141 Down to $2.79/gal here in Shitsville, Illinois

That includes about $2.53/gal in taxes, I think.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:21 AM (/E12x)

155 At Newsweek: "Student Loan Update: Trump Admin Resumes Debt Forgiveness Under Key Program"

WTF?

https://tinyurl.com/azd24npe
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (/E12x)

From the article:

To qualify for discharge, borrowers typically must have made roughly 20 to 25 years of payments, depending on loan origination.

...

Income-Based Repayment is one of four major federal programs that tie monthly payments to income and family size. Payments are typically set at 15 percent of discretionary income for most, or 10 percent for new borrowers after July 1, 2014.

After 20 or 25 years, any remaining balance is forgiven.
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While I could wish that loans that big weren't given out where they couldn't be reasonably repaid, given that student loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, this doesn't seem unreasonable.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:21 AM (ExV1e)

156 I choose to believe that it is Columbus.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:07 AM (B2vkr)

Your truth?

Joe Mannix is woke!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 13, 2025 10:22 AM (n9ltV)

157 Posted by: JTB at October 13, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw

I was not at all familiar with this painter, aside from Colombiusso I looked him up . Beautiful green dress on "Portrait of a lady with attributes of Saint Agatha", interesting color dress on a grumpy looking woman who looks like a fatter version of Greta Thunberg. That portrait is of Salome with the head of John the Baptist. Also he has several pictures of Jesus carrying the cross.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
****
Im of the mind that if she lives, @ 5# a year Greta will be a land whale. It's happening now.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:22 AM (KtOUo)

158 156 I choose to believe that it is Columbus.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:07 AM (B2vkr)

Your truth?

Joe Mannix is woke!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 13, 2025 10:22 AM (n9ltV)

=====

To be fair, he's been knocked out dozens of times. Probably had an effect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:22 AM (GBKbO)

159 At Newsweek: "Student Loan Update: Trump Admin Resumes Debt Forgiveness Under Key Program"

WTF?

https://tinyurl.com/azd24npe
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (/E12x)

Buried under under the lede is the fact that a person needs to have made payments for 20 -25 years, and the debt forgiveness will be income-based.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:23 AM (pJWtt)

160 You did, however, leave an empty vault for Jerry Rivers to open on live television, and get pantsed!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (pJWtt)

Who's "Jerry Rivers"?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 13, 2025 10:23 AM (5xuJ/)

161 A day for weeping, part deux.

Dozens Killed as Hamas Now Fighting Other Palestinians

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:23 AM (L/fGl)

162 The hats, always with the silly hats these ancient ugly dudes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 13, 2025 10:23 AM (snZF9)

163 41 Thank you, Mr. Columbus and Mr. Vespucci, for providing me the ability to not be living in a tent and the ability to wear shoes.

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2025 09:44 AM (PRqXW)

I got a good chuckle out of this.

Columbus also brought your people the ability to use firesticks, drink firewater, and now you're all betting at running casinos than the mob.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (6ydKt)

164 Who's "Jerry Rivers"?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy

Geraldo Rivera.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (77rzZ)

165 @jeremyscahill
The scene in the Knesset with Trump is like watching the inverse of a war crimes tribunal. The leaders and facilitators of the Gaza genocide are congratulating each other and applauding their crimes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:19 AM (L/fGl)
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Who?

American activist, author, and investigative journalist. He is a founding editor of the online news publication The Intercept and author of Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army, which won the George Polk Book Award. His book Dirty Wars: The World Is a Battlefield was adapted into a documentary film which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival and was nominated for the 2014 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature. In July 2024, he left The Intercept and, together with Ryan Grim and Nausicaa Renner, founded Drop Site News.

Based on cursory further reading, he left Intercept to form Drop Site because The Intercept was anti-Israel enough.

He's talking his book. And he can blow me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (B2vkr)

166 The hats, always with the silly hats these ancient ugly dudes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 13, 2025 10:23 AM

Not Festive enough?

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (jc0TO)

167 Can I get a refund for the student loan I repaid with interest?

Oh stop laughing, h8terz.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:25 AM (KtOUo)

168 Your truth?

Joe Mannix is woke!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 13, 2025 10:22 AM (n9ltV)
++++
In fairness, I said "I choose to believe it" and not, "I believe it, therefore it is - and you shall agree with me or else I'll bludgeon you."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:25 AM (B2vkr)

169 144 Today we celebrate the National Day of Christopher Columbus, established in 2004 to honor one of the greatest Italians that Italy can boast of.

With his extraordinary journey 533 years ago, Columbus gave the world another world. He conceived an adventure that no one else before him had imagined. He sailed to the West, beyond the confines of the world known at the time. A “new Ulysses”, who was not shipwrecked but who succeeded in one of the most glorious feats of all time. A feat that marked the transition from the Middle Ages to the Modern Age, rewrote geography and changed political, cultural and economic relations between peoples.

The voyage of Columbus laid the foundations of that indissoluble bond that unites the two sides of the Atlantic, Europe and America, and which represents the core of what we call the West.Not a physical or geographical space, but a system of values that we want to defend and preserve. Our mission is not to tear down the statues of the past and erase the heroes who shaped our identity, but to add our statues and heroes to that story, with pride and humility. ...
_Giorgia Meloni
Posted by: Braenyard ...

Nice.

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:26 AM (aURVT)

170 "Can I get a refund for the student loan I repaid with interest?"

Debt forgiveness makes chumps out of those of us who worked during school, and paid all our own freight. YMMV.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (/E12x)

171 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.

There seems to be good evidence that the Norse were here before him. People have found Ogham writing all across the US.

The Welsh even have a case with Madoc.

The Knights Templars may have hid their gold in the US, and there is the famous Westford Knight.

There's some speculation that Marco Polo visited the American West with Chinese mariners while on a year long voyage to Japan.

Up until the early 20th century there was supposedly an Egyptian obelisk in the Mississippi Delta as a navigational buoy.

There's the Bat Creek Stone which may be Assyrian in origin.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

172 Realpolitik:

War crimes are for the losers of wars.
==

i am sure he is one of those fair and balanced reporters who talked extensively about pali crimes agains humanity, and how hamas remnants have been on a murder spree, killing dozens of people in the last 24 hours...since the ceasefire of course...

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (g47mK)

173 I believe there's a theory the Lumbee tribe may be descendants of the lost colony of Roanoke.

It makes sense since so many Lumbee have blonde hair and blue eyes to the point nobody considered them a real tribe until a few decades ago.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (6ydKt)

174 110 Jessica Machado with more info on the Rt. 195 plane crash in Dartmouth...

I do like Jessica telling the media outlets asking to use her video to piss off in the the comments.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (MZ+PY)

175 Ewwww!

Hillary Clinton Heaps Rare Praise on President Trump for Handling of Israel-Hamas Peace Deal: “I Really Commend”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (L/fGl)

176 >>>Without heterosexual white males, the business collapses
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
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So many businesses, you'd think they'd get a clue.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:28 AM (eL84x)

177 Columbus discovered the remnants of the Hopewell Peoples.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 13, 2025 10:28 AM (WQDw6)

178 Debt forgiveness makes chumps out of those of us who worked during school, and paid all our own freight. YMMV.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (/E12x)
++++
Yes. Much like how "sanctuary" jurisdictions make actual citizens into suckers and chumps.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:28 AM (B2vkr)

179 You did, however, leave an empty vault for Jerry Rivers to open on live television, and get pantsed!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (pJWtt)

It was a joke. I remember when he broke the story back in the 70's of the State School scandal here in NJ. He was a reporter for WABC 7 back then. It's just that the "Jerry Rivers" thing is way past its expiration date.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 13, 2025 10:28 AM (5xuJ/)

180 178 Concur.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:29 AM (/E12x)

181 Hilary does not want to be locked up !

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:29 AM (g47mK)

182 Who's "Jerry Rivers"?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy

Geraldo Rivera.
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (77rzZ)

See my reply at 179. My cat was demanding a pet.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 13, 2025 10:30 AM (5xuJ/)

183 I left out the vast mining of millions of tons of copper in Pre Colombian Michigan...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:30 AM (TGPs7)

184 Columbus was late to the Americas. Fossilized IKEA meatballs and metric allen wrenches were discovered in Missouri in 1934.

Posted by: All Hushed Up at October 13, 2025 10:30 AM (oftw2)

185 Where is civility?

Kamala Harris Book Tour Derailed by Hecklers, Protestors

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:30 AM (L/fGl)

186 One of the purposes of Columbus Day was give the Italian immigrants a national hero.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

What about Senore Spaghetti, the inventor of food?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

Are you besmirching the memory of the great American, Chef Ettore Boiardi? Pistols at dawn, sir!

All joking aside, that does illustrate how exotic plain old Italian spaghetti was to American palates in the early 20th C.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:31 AM (pJWtt)

187 Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

None of those, even if true (and we know that the Norse did make it here), really counts, because those supposed "discoverer" did nothing with their knowledge of the New Worl, and (again, with the limited exception of the Norse) did not spread that knowledge to the rest of the world.

Only Columbus did that (even if, ironically, he thought the New World was just part of the Old). Therefore, his discovery is the only one that counts.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

188 163 41 Thank you, Mr. Columbus and Mr. Vespucci, for providing me the ability to not be living in a tent and the ability to wear shoes.

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2025 09:44 AM (PRqXW)

I got a good chuckle out of this.

Columbus also brought your people the ability to use firesticks, drink firewater, and now you're all betting at running casinos than the mob.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (6ydKt)
****
You mean 'better' than...
And I agree. The tribal casino hotel in Susanville is nice. Food is decent. I stay away from gambling. And they sell gas at a mini market.
The casino has saved the Tribe from unbearable poverty.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:31 AM (KtOUo)

189 In an era of record indebtedness, both govt and household, debt forgiveness increases moral hazard, by providing an incentive for reckless borrowers to heap on even more debt, in heightened anticipation of being bailed out sometime in the future. YMMV.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:32 AM (/E12x)

190 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old lady Emhoff at October 13, 2025 10:32 AM (ZdGdU)

191 Stegosaurus discovered America!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:32 AM (L/fGl)

192 165 @jeremyscahill
...
He's talking his book. And he can blow me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 13, 2025 10:24 AM (B2vkr)

He might bite.

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:33 AM (aURVT)

193 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

Columbus' discovery changed the world due to what came after him. This cannot be denied.

The Vikings probably made it all the way to North America but nobody knew about it except a few Scandinavians who moved to Iceland.

There were more than likely others who made it to the Western Hemisphere before him, but precisely zero of them had the impact that Columbus and his crew did.

That's why he's remembered, regardless of what we have learned since then about previous explorers.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:33 AM (6ydKt)

194 >You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.
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he did
Chris got off the boat at Plymouth rock, where he was greeted by a friendly band of Fukawi indians. Then they had the first Thanksgiving, after which there was a spirited game of sport. The rules were unclear, but it later became football.
Columbus then set about establishing pizza franchises throughout the land.
The rest is history.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: diggety schwag at October 13, 2025 10:33 AM (AOsQT)

195 Columbus gets all the publicity but Giovanni da Verrazzano was the real rock star.

Dude went into dragon territory.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2025 10:33 AM (viF8m)

196 Not art, per se, but my wife and I just got back from hiking part of the Algarve coast in Peru. Ridiculously cool-looking cliffs, caves, coves and sea stacks. Now time for a gin and tonic on the patio overlooking the Ria Formosa. 2.5 days in, this trip is shaping up nicely.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (RXEQR)

197 Portrait of a Man, Said to be Christopher Columbus

Nah. This guy looks like a haberdasher.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (LKdE6)

198 You did, however, leave an empty vault for Jerry Rivers to open on live television, and get pantsed!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:11 AM (pJWtt)

It was a joke. I remember when he broke the story back in the 70's of the State School scandal here in NJ. He was a reporter for WABC 7 back then. It's just that the "Jerry Rivers" thing is way past its expiration date.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 13, 2025 10:28 AM (5xuJ/)

I knew you were joking. However, Geraldo Rivera is deserving of scorn.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (pJWtt)

199 Would it be wrong for liquor stores to have sales on Indigenous People's Day?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (L1Wxc)

200 200

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (aURVT)

201 And you're in the comments?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:12 AM (ExV1e)

=====

Gotta give her space for her doom scrolling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:13 AM (GBKbO)

Which is basically the comments section here.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (5Yz+T)

202 >>>Only Columbus did that (even if, ironically, he thought the New World was just part of the Old). Therefore, his discovery is the only one that counts.
Posted by: Bulg
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in modern terms

HE MONETIZED the AMERICAS

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (eL84x)

203 I left out the vast mining of millions of tons of copper in Pre Colombian Michigan...
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This same silver is traceable throughout the world as it is the only source of copper with traces of silver.
Mediterranean weapons found, dating to the time of Phoenecians contain this ore.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (WQDw6)

204 jeremy scahill

Uh ... who?

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:20 AM (jc0TO)

Latin for obstacles you need to shoot through to rescue hostages.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (snZF9)

205 Where is civility?

Kamala Harris Book Tour Derailed by Hecklers, Protestors
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:30 AM (L/fGl)
****
How come her portrait hasn't been vandalized by lunatic right wing women throwing red paint at it?

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (KtOUo)

206 Miss us yet?

Posted by: Fifty year old white guys at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (ZdGdU)

207 "just got back from hiking part of the Algarve coast in Peru."

That's so cool! Be careful.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (/E12x)

208 In an era of record indebtedness, both govt and household, debt forgiveness increases moral hazard, by providing an incentive for reckless borrowers to heap on even more debt, in heightened anticipation of being bailed out sometime in the future. YMMV.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:32 AM (/E12x)

Lots of TikTok videos, apparently, telling people to live for today, don't fear repossession, declare bankruptcy, yolo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (ExV1e)

209 You mean 'better' than...
And I agree. The tribal casino hotel in Susanville is nice. Food is decent. I stay away from gambling. And they sell gas at a mini market.
The casino has saved the Tribe from unbearable poverty.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2025 10:31 AM (KtOUo)

Yeah, that happens to me a lot.
My brain means one thing but my fingers and autocucumber have entirely different ideas of what I'm trying to type.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (6ydKt)

210 171 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

He seems nice.

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:35 AM (aURVT)

211 Portrait of a Man, Said to be Christopher Columbus (born about 1446, died 1506)
Sebastiano del Piombo

Born Sebastiano Luciani, after coming to Rome he became known as Sebastiano Veneziano or Viniziano ("Sebastian the Venetian"), until in 1531 he became the Keeper of the Seal to the Papacy, and so got the nickname del Piombo ("of the Lead") thereafter, from his new job title of piombatore.[2] Wikipedia
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ICE gov, June 14, 2018 Philadelphia, 'Third stolen Christopher Columbus letter returned to the Vatican'

WILMINGTON, Delaware — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigation (HSI) Philadelphia special agents and U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Delaware returned Thursday a more than 500-year-old copy of Christopher Columbus’ letter describing his discoveries in the Americas to the Vatican during a repatriation ceremony at the Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana (the “Vatican Library) in Vatican City. The letter, originally written in 1493, was stolen from the Vatican Library and later sold in 2004 for approximate$875,000. This is the third Christopher Columbus letter repatriation in the past two years.

Would hang.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (NFX2v)

212 210 171 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

He's not only Anti Semitic he's anti Columbus !

Posted by: It's me donna at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (VE6XX)

213 Mark Kelly: Kamala would be an “incredibly strong” presidential candidate for Democrats in 2028.

Only thing strong in Kamala is her BAC.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (gKWVE)

214 Italian Americans were hung in almost equal numbers to blacks. That’s a fact. In New Orleans 11 were lynched after being found innocent.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (SOF+/)

215 oh that's right
MG is the troll's most recent iteration

Posted by: Don Black. Message: diggety schwag at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (AOsQT)

216 Also St. Brendan, an Irish monk from Ireland was rumoured to have sailed a skin boat to America.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (TGPs7)

217 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

True. It was D'Shawn Watson but the Wakandan Exploratory Society decided to leave the natives in peace.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (ExV1e)

218 Now sing to the tune of "It's A Small World":

'Twas in fourteen hundred and ninety-two
Chris Columbus sailed 'cross the ocean blue.
Didn't find what he'd planned
So he told Ferdinand
It's a New World, after all.
It's a New World, after all. It's a new World, after all.
It's a New World, after all. It's a Brave, New World.

So it isn't India, we won't get spice.
They have things there, king, that are just as nice.
There's a spring there, forsooth,
Called the Fountain of Youth
In that New World, after all.
It's a New World, after all. And it's round, just like a ball.
This Italian showed them all that it's Spain's New World.

Posted by: tankascribe at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (NtoJk)

219 There is a cool Columbus-Day ceremony held every year by the Columbus Statue outside Union Station in DC.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

220 213 Mark Kelly: Kamala would be an “incredibly strong” presidential candidate for Democrats in 2028.

Only thing strong in Kamala is her BAC.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (gKWVE)

=======

She still has triple the black support of anyone else in the party potentially running.

She's vetted, and a sizeable portion of the left think that it's Biden's fault she lost. They love her sassy attitude.

Newsom isn't even vetted, and the country already hates him.

Kamala is their strongest candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:38 AM (GBKbO)

221 Portugal, not Peru! Damned autofill.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 10:39 AM (RXEQR)

222 “The View” Co-Host [Alyssa Farah Griffin] Stuns CNN Audience With Her Praise of Trump’s Israel-Hamas Peace Deal

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Built on a Blinken/Biden framework!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:39 AM (L/fGl)

223 in modern terms

HE MONETIZED the AMERICAS

Posted by: Braenyard

Heh. I guess you could say that.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:39 AM (77rzZ)

224 Mister Ghost: Up until the early 20th century there was supposedly an Egyptian obelisk in the Mississippi Delta as a navigational buoy.
There's the Bat Creek Stone which may be Assyrian in origin.

I for one blame the Jews.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:39 AM (gKWVE)

225 In an era of record indebtedness, both govt and household, debt forgiveness increases moral hazard, by providing an incentive for reckless borrowers to heap on even more debt, in heightened anticipation of being bailed out sometime in the future. YMMV.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:32 AM (/E12x)

20 to 25 years of payments does not scream "reckless borrowers" to me. The real solution is to restore student loan debt to being subject to bankruptcy.

Currently, reckless lending is not being disincentivized.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:40 AM (pJWtt)

226 Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

But all of them except the Western Europeans couldn't hack the conditions and left. All that you mentioned were a bunch of pussies.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 13, 2025 10:40 AM (g8Ew8)

227 Italy was so dysfunctional all their great explorers had to sail for other nations.

Posted by: Perillo Tours at October 13, 2025 10:40 AM (oftw2)

228 "Lots of TikTok videos, apparently, telling people to live for today, don't fear repossession, declare bankruptcy, yolo."

Here in Shitsburg, plenty of brand new giant pickup trucks and SUVs on the roads, and I'm guessing 95% are purchased with monstrous auto loan debt, plus mandatory monstrous full-coverage auto insurance premiums.

I'll never be able to afford a new vehicle again, that's for sure. I eschew debt. Then I esspit it out.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (/E12x)

229 Yes, nice choice CBD.

Happy let's not lynch Italians in Louisiana day! Because that's really why they started Columbus Day.

Liberals don't ask why certain traditions are founded. They are incurious as to the why. A day honoring Italians shouldn't be hijacked for political purposes.

Also, I think even liberals would be fine with keeping Columbus Day if we'd originally started food traditions to go along with it. If every year it was celebrated with lasagna and cannoli ... how cool would that be?

Posted by: LizLem at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (gWBY1)

230 WILMINGTON, Delaware — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigation (HSI) Philadelphia special agents and U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Delaware returned Thursday a more than 500-year-old copy of Christopher Columbus’ letter describing his discoveries in the Americas to the Vatican during a repatriation ceremony at the Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana (the “Vatican Library) in Vatican City. The letter, originally written in 1493, was stolen from the Vatican Library and later sold in 2004 for approximate$875,000. This is the third Christopher Columbus letter repatriation in the past two years.

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now wait a minute, now we have to go Italy to look at it ?? they need to bring it here once a year in October, for our beautiful gesture !

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (g47mK)

231 You know, it occurs to me that people in TMR mentioned that Katy Perry went from Orlando Bloom to Justin Trudeau but they fail to note the Bloom went from Miranda Kerr to Katy Perry.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (ExV1e)

232 Also St. Brendan, an Irish monk from Ireland was rumoured to have sailed a skin boat to America.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Nah. Just Iceland.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (77rzZ)

233 171 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:27 AM (TGPs7)

He discovered or opened up the pathway for the Europeans.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 13, 2025 10:42 AM (EYmYM)

234 Silver at $52.30 per oz. One ounce of silver is 4 quarters and 4 dimes of pre-1965 dates. Each of those dimes has $3.73 worth of silver in it.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 13, 2025 10:42 AM (Da7Vv)

235 Thanks, gp. 99% of the clifftop has no handrails, etc. No signs telling you to stay clear, only common sense and balance keeps you from plummeting. Sadly, I have only a modicum of each, so I stayed a few feet from the gnarliest looking edges.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 10:42 AM (RXEQR)

236 Columbus didn’t need directions and neither do I.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 13, 2025 10:43 AM (XaI3x)

237 214 Italian Americans were hung
Posted by: Marcus T at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (SOF+/)

So sayeth The Paolo.

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:43 AM (aURVT)

238 M'aiq is also sure that if you do not understand that all mockery of the silly human Jerry Rivers is funny, acceptable, and always appropriate... you are very, very, most definitely gay and dressed in ladies' silky underthings.

Posted by: M'aiq the Liar at October 13, 2025 10:43 AM (2oCXm)

239 Kamala Harris faces hecklers and protesters - and that was just her campaign staff.

Posted by: Wally at October 13, 2025 10:44 AM (7CamO)

240 "20 to 25 years of payments does not scream "reckless borrowers" to me."

It whispers to me that those borrowers did not have the means to make early payments so as to discharge an onerous loan quickly.

College loans with terms period longer than that of a mortgage? Ugh.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:44 AM (/E12x)

241 Has anyone read the weird novel by Orson Scott Card about a girl from the future trying to change the past, by messing with Columbus coming to the new world?

Apparently Card was going to make it a series like Ender's game. But then he realized by changing history, he had painted himself into a corner about affecting other timelines. So he abandoned it. It is the pesky time travel fiction paradox.

Posted by: LizLem at October 13, 2025 10:44 AM (gWBY1)

242 If every year it was celebrated with lasagna and cannoli ... how cool would that be?

Posted by: LizLem at October 13, 2025 10:41 AM (gWBY1)

Now I want a cannoli.

Haven't had one in ages.
A few locally-owned pizza joints make them and they are tasty.

I really should've been Italian because I love their food so much.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:45 AM (6ydKt)

243 “So it isn't India, we won't get spice. “

Better not let the Third Stage Guild Navigators know that.

THE SPICE MUST FLOW

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 13, 2025 10:45 AM (XaI3x)

244 240 College loans with terms period longer than that of a mortgage? Ugh.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:44 AM (/E12x)

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A few years back, when I finished paying off my student loans, I was talking to my dad about it. My dad is an academic who has been in academia for 40 years.

"I'm really glad you paid things off on time, in 10 years."
-paraphrase.

"We paid things off 20 years early, Dad."
-almost direct quote

"What?"
-not a paraphrase

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:45 AM (GBKbO)

245 Thanks, gp. 99% of the clifftop has no handrails, etc. No signs telling you to stay clear, only common sense and balance keeps you from plummeting. Sadly, I have only a modicum of each, so I stayed a few feet from the gnarliest looking edges.
Posted by: Lincolntf

No way you'd get me anywhere near that crap at my age. Or even when I was younger.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (77rzZ)

246 even the 2020 Days of Rage could not topple Cristoforo Colombo from his pedestal on Columbus Circle in Manhattan.
and the circle still bears his name.

Further south, in Philly, the effort to remove the Columbus statue from Marconi plaza also failed.

take the "L" and enjoy it, facciebrutte!

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (dCxaZ)

247 If I discover something, but I don't tell anyone about it, did I really discover it? Kind of a Lost Dutchman Mine question.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (jc0TO)

248 "You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America. "

I prefer to think it was ancient aliens that discoverer America. They also are the one that built all those Indian mounds that could never been done with stone age technology.

Posted by: Ripley at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (GUOwU)

249 Wait, I thought Paolo was Spanish not Italian? Am I getting my swarthy Mediterranean stallions mixed up?

Posted by: LizLem at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (gWBY1)

250 Indigenous people day? Fuhhhhhegtaboutit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (5Yz+T)

251 171 You have to have mush for brains to think Columbus discovered America.

Posted by: Mister Ghost

We are all immigrants!

Okay?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (NFX2v)

252 Gold at $4117 per oz. I can remember $32 per oz gold.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 13, 2025 10:47 AM (Da7Vv)

253 Italian Americans were hung in almost equal numbers to blacks. That’s a fact. In New Orleans 11 were lynched after being found innocent.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (SOF+/)

Very true. I suspect that the fact that Italian immigrants also tended to be Catholic contributed to the prejudice.

I'm not particularly opposed to an "Indigenous People's Day" but the Devil is in the details. Rather than steal a day from another group, the "Indigenous Peoples" need to do the hard work of lobbying the U.S. Congress to establish a holiday.

Me personally, I go with "Clovis People's Day." That would spark some conversations that the Lefties claim to desire.

Q) "What happened to the Clovis Peoples?"
A) "Oh, the next wave of Indians killed them."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:47 AM (pJWtt)

254 Wait, I thought Paolo was Spanish not Italian? Am I getting my swarthy Mediterranean stallions mixed up?
Posted by: LizLem

If he were Spanish, his name would be "Pablo."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

255 WABC-TV 7 News was fun in the 70s. Jerry Rivers, Bill Beautiful, Roger Grimace, Melba Toast, Tex Antenna, Roseanne Roseannadanna, what's not to like!

Posted by: Eyewitness To Greatness at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (oftw2)

256 Although I shouldn't engage, I'll engage. Besides Markland = Anse Meadows in Noof, which is proven, I'm aware of the following possible / probable Old World contacts:
- The Mugharrarun of Islamic Lisbon (they recorded their progress... to the Sargasso Sea, then fled back east, probably hitting up the Canaries before returning home)
- Basque and Catholic-Lisbon fishermen, scouting the South American coast, which they named "Brasil" after legendary "Hy-Brasil"
- Norse again, made the Azores an encampment for their raids on Islamic Portugal and Morocco (Norse and Danish mice found on the islands)

So a passel of near misses.
The Sargasso Sea was a serious barrier, the "Bermuda Triangle" of the middle ages. It stank, the wind didn't blow, the sea was thick and full of sharks. Islamic and Carthago-Roman naval tech was designed for Med and Atlantic Coast work, not to cross the Atlantic. The Norse had trouble too.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (gKWVE)

257 even the 2020 Days of Rage could not topple Cristoforo Colombo from his pedestal on Columbus Circle in Manhattan.
and the circle still bears his name.

Further south, in Philly, the effort to remove the Columbus statue from Marconi plaza also failed.

take the "L" and enjoy it, facciebrutte!

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:46 AM (dCxaZ)

You obviously can speak the language. I never saw that word written, only spoken.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (snZF9)

258 I can't believe there was a comment about someone taking a skin boat and no one sexualized that.

Posted by: Wally at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (7CamO)

259 "We paid things off 20 years early, Dad."

My 1987 mortgage on this dump was 18.5%, which was the style in those days.

You betcher sweet bippy I paid it off quick

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (/E12x)

260 Helicopter crash.

https://is.gd/f8buvz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (L/fGl)

261 The Indians were nomads, moving whenever the stench from the waste heap became unbearable. It reminded the early arrivals from Europe of Scotland.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (GPa4z)

262 It's very easy to go $200,000 in debt going to college for four years.

I appreciate some of the older Horde thinking it's like it was when they went to school, but I highly doubt it cost as much as a house back then, especially going to a state college.

The books alone are ridiculously priced.
You haven't experienced sticker shock until you have to pay $500 for a book you'll rarely, if ever, read.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (6ydKt)

263 My wife somehow got a 1.85% rate on her student loans for 20 years. I don’t know how that happened but it did.

She wanted to pay it off early and I was like Woman are you crazy? This is a gift. A loan below the rate of inflation AND tax deductible. Do not ever pay a cent off early.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (5Yz+T)

264 >>Not art, per se, but my wife and I just got back from hiking part of the Algarve coast in Peru.

Nice. Put the Lakes Region of Chile on your itinerary. Gorgeous.

South America is a gem.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (viF8m)

265 258 I can't believe there was a comment about someone taking a skin boat and no one sexualized that.
Posted by: Wally at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (7CamO)

I did, in my head.

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (aURVT)

266 Silver at $52.30 per oz. One ounce of silver is 4 quarters and 4 dimes of pre-1965 dates. Each of those dimes has $3.73 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President

Pissed at myself for not buying more at $21.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (3sX9I)

267 214 Italian Americans were hung in almost equal numbers to blacks. That’s a fact. In New Orleans 11 were lynched after being found innocent.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 13, 2025 10:37 AM (SOF+/)

Of course, a lot of groups faced persecution in America.

How about all those No Irish Need Apply signs?

They hung witches in New England and Quakers too.

In Somerville, MA, Anti Papists burnt down an Ursuline Convent in the 1840s or so.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (TGPs7)

268 I can remember $32 per oz gold.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 13, 2025 10:47 AM

Back when it was mostly illegal to own it.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (jc0TO)

269 259 "We paid things off 20 years early, Dad."

My 1987 mortgage on this dump was 18.5%, which was the style in those days.

You betcher sweet bippy I paid it off quick
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (/E12x)

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We're in the middle of refinancing now. We had to move when rates were at 7%. Now, we're getting 5.625%...and shortening the term by 10 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (GBKbO)

270 Crossing the ice bridge so I guess 'Russia' discovered America.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (EYmYM)

271 You obviously can speak the language. I never saw that word written, only spoken.

I had to...if I didn't speak Italian, I didn't eat! (parents and grandparents were immigrants)

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (dCxaZ)

272 262 It's very easy to go $200,000 in debt going to college for four years.
—

But not common. The average loan amount upon graduation is $30k. The $200k loan stories you hear are aberrations.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (5Yz+T)

273 cont'd...

It's a world of treasure, a world to gain.
It's a world of riches, and all for Spain.
It'll be, oh so fine
When the Pope draws the line
In that New World, after all.
It's a New World, after all, like an Eden ere the Fall.
We won't share with Portugal! 'Cause it's Spain's New World.

Oh, the Aztecs and Mayans have lots of gold,
And the Incas have silver, or so we're told.
When those far Western shores
Meet the Conquistadores,
Then it's Spain's World, after all!
When it's Spain's World, after all, then on England soon will fall
The Armada, strong and tall! 'Cause it's Spain's New World!

(I cannot take credit for this, it was written by an acquaintance who titled it "A Report On The Spanish Expedition Of '92". It's a groaner, all right.)

Posted by: tankascribe at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (NtoJk)

274 Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:48 AM (gKWVE)

Again, Columbus' discovery was the only one that mattered.

It's entirely possible that Old-World peoples other than the Norse may have stumbled upon the New World, but if so they did not record the fact and the knowledge died with the "discoverers."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (77rzZ)

275 Sorry, Jack Straw, wrong continent. I meant Portugal. Either my phone effed up or this G&T is stronger than it tastes.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (RXEQR)

276 "The books alone are ridiculously priced."

Same as it ever was

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (/E12x)

277 FDR only paid $20 per oz. for the gold he took from the citizens; then he reset the dollar to $35 per oz.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (GPa4z)

278 In Somerville, MA, Anti Papists burnt down an Ursuline Convent in the 1840s or so.

In Philadelphia, St. John the Evangelist church had to be protected by Fed troops during the Nativist riots.

St. Joseph and St. Augustine churches had already been burnt down.

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (dCxaZ)

279 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Looks to be a great day.
Goes looking for coffee.

BTW.
Muldoon. Got boiler #3 fixed but there is a rattle in the lift actuator.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (2WIwB)

280 Nope; No witches were burned in America. They were hanged or in the case of Giles Corey pressed to death.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (looXz)

281 "The $200k loan stories you hear are aberrations."

Medicine and law students, I'm guessing.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (/E12x)

282 I ended up borrowing a total of $3K for my education which I paid off my first year of working.

Get off my lawn!

Posted by: toby928 shakes fist at clouds at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (jc0TO)

283 Italy was so dysfunctional all their great explorers had to sail for other nations.
Posted by: Perillo Tours at October 13, 2025 10:40 AM (oftw2)

The nation-state of Italy[/d] did not exist prior to 1875-ish (I'm too lazy to look the dates of the War of Unification.) Before that, there were a bunch of little states.

Limited resources = no voyages of discovery

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (pJWtt)

284 More ... weight ..

Posted by: Giles Corey at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (jc0TO)

285 I gotta say all those gold bugs were proven right. They’re still nutty, there are the Ron Paul types usually, but on this, they got it right.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (5Yz+T)

286 283 The nation-state of Italy[/d] did not exist prior to 1875-ish (I'm too lazy to look the dates of the War of Unification.) Before that, there were a bunch of little states.

Limited resources = no voyages of discovery
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (pJWtt)

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Venice and Florence weren't exactly poor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

287 202 >>>Only Columbus did that (even if, ironically, he thought the New World was just part of the Old). Therefore, his discovery is the only one that counts.
Posted by: Bulg
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in modern terms

HE MONETIZED the AMERICAS

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:34 AM (eL84x)

bears repeating

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (aURVT)

288 A few years back, when I finished paying off my student loans, I was talking to my dad about it. My dad is an academic who has been in academia for 40 years.

"I'm really glad you paid things off on time, in 10 years."
-paraphrase.

"We paid things off 20 years early, Dad."
-almost direct quote

"What?"
-not a paraphrase
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:45 AM (GBKbO)

We teach neither critical thinking, personal economics, nor basic math as they are not needed for debt slaves. -- universities and the lenders who give them sheep to fleece

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 13, 2025 10:54 AM (ExV1e)

289 Body Count of Russian Tycoons Hits at Least 38 Since Start of Ukraine War — as Putin Sends Message With “Absurd Suicides”

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I saw Absurd Suicides open for Black Sabbath at Crazy Town in '75.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)

290 281 "The $200k loan stories you hear are aberrations."

Medicine and law students, I'm guessing.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:52 AM (/E12x)

Yeah exactly. MBAs too. I’m sure there are some undergrad examples, but they are by no means typical.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:54 AM (5Yz+T)

291 230. now wait a minute, now we have to go Italy to look at it ?? they need to bring it here once a year in October, for our beautiful gesture !
Posted by: runner

Ha!

But take heart for the POTATO could have had it nicked again in 2021, when he visited the Vatican, and it may be sitting among his papers at U of DE.

We'll never know for certain.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 13, 2025 10:54 AM (NFX2v)

292 As for the nomadic Indians, Cahokia was more-or-less a stationary empire, in North America.
But it collapsed and the Indians all reverted to savagery. Literal postapocalyptic conditions.
Something bad happened to several upper Amazon cultures in South America at the time too. Maybe the Maunder Minimum; Europe had a hard time in the 1300s as well.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 13, 2025 10:55 AM (gKWVE)

293 Chris looks constipated

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2025 10:55 AM (iFTx/)

294 Note to self: kallisto is mobbed-up. Don't get on his bad side.

Posted by: Sitting Quietly In The Corner at October 13, 2025 10:55 AM (oftw2)

295 My niece's tuition for veterinary medicine school is $80K per year.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (GPa4z)

296 I honestly don't know where I got this 'no debt' ethic. Don't remember my parents ever saying it to me out loud. It burns brightly within me. Compulsion. Obsession.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (/E12x)

297 Venice and Florence weren't exactly poor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

At one time France conquered Italy. Sadly I had not known that until I read a bio on Da Vinci.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (EYmYM)

298 Oh noes!!!

Neil Young to Pull His Music off Amazon Because “Bezos Supports This Government”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (L/fGl)

299 Looks like he has gas or maybe food poisoning, the food on a sea cruise at that time was not very good.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (JERN3)

300 294 Note to self: kallisto is mobbed-up.
Posted by: Sitting Quietly In The Corner at October 13, 2025 10:55 AM (oftw2)

There is no kallisto.
There is only

Posted by: kalllisto

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (aURVT)

301 You obviously can speak the language. I never saw that word written, only spoken.

I had to...if I didn't speak Italian, I didn't eat! (parents and grandparents were immigrants)

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:50 AM (dCxaZ)

I'm 3rd gen american, so I never learned the language. Didn't need to. Everybody spoke english. Couldn't understand half of what my grandmother said, but it was english. From what I understand though they didn't know english when they got here.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 13, 2025 10:57 AM (snZF9)

302 It's very easy to go $200,000 in debt going to college for four years.

I appreciate some of the older Horde thinking it's like it was when they went to school, but I highly doubt it cost as much as a house back then, especially going to a state college.

The books alone are ridiculously priced.
You haven't experienced sticker shock until you have to pay $500 for a book you'll rarely, if ever, read.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:49 AM (6ydKt)

The publishing of text books is a criminal racket.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:57 AM (pJWtt)

303 Note to self: kallisto is mobbed-up. Don't get on his bad side.

kallisto is female

there was a time I wished my fam truly was mobbed up.
My dad completed a big job for Leonard Tose, who owned the Philadelphia Eagles. The grimy sunofabitch stiffed him on the entire amount.

Since he owned a trucking company, I suggested to my father that he ignite some of Tose trucks. Dad said, no that's not a good idea, his insurance will pay for it.

So my next suggestion was for dad to reach out to any connections he may have, but I don't think he ever did

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (dCxaZ)

304 I was in the former Comanche Empire this past weekend. Learned that it was much wetter and lusher back then than I have ever seen it with my eyes. Apparently, between 1850 and the dust bowl period, rainfall was triple what it is today. Now, one of the chief values of land in West Texas is whether there is a functioning well on the property.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (jc0TO)

305 "Cahokia was more-or-less a stationary empire, in North America."

After the first time they had to move that big mound, they decided that nomadism was for the birds, and stayed put.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (/E12x)

306 My student loan wasn't very much because I worked part-time over the academic semesters and full-time during the summers.

$10,000 total was the loan. I differed payments for five years because I was active duty military.

Once payments began -- $87.21 per month over ten years. If my math is correct, that comes to $465.20 in total interest paid over ten years.

Also get off my lawn.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (Y1sOo)

307 295 My niece's tuition for veterinary medicine school is $80K per year.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (GPa4z)

And it’s a good investment long term.

Professional degrees are a different ballpark altogether when it comes to loans. You’re basically guaranteed a lifetime of solid income if you graduate from Vet or medical school. You won’t be working at Starbucks. So the investment is worth it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (5Yz+T)

308 Rural West Texas, I guess I should note.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 10:58 AM (jc0TO)

309 Looks like he has gas or maybe food poisoning, the food on a sea cruise at that time was not very good.
Posted by: Anna Puma

There were so many maggots in their food that they literally had to "eat ze bugs."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (77rzZ)

310 I honestly don't know where I got this 'no debt' ethic. Don't remember my parents ever saying it to me out loud. It burns brightly within me. Compulsion. Obsession.
Posted by: gp

I just paid off all the credit cards.
Only thing I owe on is my house.
Trucks - paid
ATV - paid
SxS - paid
Never going back in cc debt again.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (3sX9I)

311 $30k for college would be going to a local school, staying at home, etc.

Anybody sending their kids off for four years, especially out of state, to a big school is going to be paying out the nose for dorms and food.

Then they crush you with books, computers, lab fees and, depending on the major; a lot of expensive supplies & equipment to buy just to do the course work.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (6ydKt)

312 >>Sorry, Jack Straw, wrong continent. I meant Portugal. Either my phone effed up or this G&T is stronger than it tastes.

Oh that's right, I remember you saying you were going to Portugal this fall. I was kind of wondering why you were drinking a gin and tonic at 10 am but I try not to judge.

Have a great time and don't forget the ham.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)

313 Leonard Tose, may your nasty decrepit criminal soul Rest in Hell, as I'm sure it has been doing lo these many years

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (dCxaZ)

314 252 Gold at $4117 per oz. I can remember $32 per oz gold.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President
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Making Beck's old pronouncements sane.
I sold at 18, double my purchase price.
It couldn't go higher could it?

Thank you Joey, I'll never forget you.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 10:59 AM (eL84x)

315 Newsom Signs Law Creating Reparations Bureau as State Faces Billions in Debt

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Maybe he'll pay them in watermelons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 11:00 AM (L/fGl)

316 I dubbed the Comanche the Vikings of the West. Basically a brigand culture that would trade if they couldn't just steal.

Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2025 11:00 AM (jc0TO)

317 Debt in and of itself isn’t bad. It’s the type of debt that makes it good or bad. $80k car loan at 9% interest? Not so smart. $500k mortgage at 3%, smart.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 11:00 AM (5Yz+T)

318 Have a great time and don't forget the ham.
Posted by: JackStraw

Don't forget to tip your waitress.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

319 Now I do have a buddy whose parents were likethis with Joey Merlino's parents. His daughter used to babysit Merlino's kids in Margate NJ.

by two degrees of separation I guess you could say I am mobbed up

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 11:01 AM (dCxaZ)

320 "Cahokia was more-or-less a stationary empire, in North America."

After the first time they had to move that big mound, they decided that nomadism was for the birds, and stayed put.
Posted by: gp

Being from St. Louis, I must be part Cahokian. I lived in my last house for 31 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 11:01 AM (3sX9I)

321 It's very easy to go $200,000 in debt going to college for four years.
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But not common. The average loan amount upon graduation is $30k. The $200k loan stories you hear are aberrations.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 10:51 AM (5Yz+T)
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True, but that's only undergraduate, includes all undergrad colleges (including inexpensive state and local), and only student debt. Doesn't include loans taken out by parents. If you include parental debt and an expensive private school, that number jumps much much higher.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2025 11:01 AM (iFTx/)

322 "You’re basically guaranteed a lifetime of solid income if you graduate from Vet or medical school."

God knows we need more vets. Hard to book appointments these days.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 11:01 AM (/E12x)

323 I honestly don't know where I got this 'no debt' ethic. Don't remember my parents ever saying it to me out loud. It burns brightly within me. Compulsion. Obsession.
Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 10:56 AM (/E12x)

I got the always live within your means gene from my parents which includes avoiding debt if at all possible.

It has lead to a financially stress free life and being able to retire early.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 13, 2025 11:01 AM (EYmYM)

324 >>>
I just paid off all the credit cards.
Only thing I owe on is my house.
Trucks - paid
ATV - paid
SxS - paid
Never going back in cc debt again.
Posted by: rickb223
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Feels good, doesn't it?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 11:02 AM (eL84x)

325 Limited resources = no voyages of discovery
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (pJWtt)

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Venice and Florence weren't exactly poor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 13, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

They bigger things to worry about. The Ottoman Empire was still a big problem. The naval Battle of Lepanto didn't occur until 1571: that's when the Ottoman's were defeated and the Muslim menace was beaten-back for centuries.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 11:02 AM (pJWtt)

326 Credit Cards offer good securities, just pay it off each month.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (eL84x)

327 They bigger things to worry about. The Ottoman Empire was still a big problem. The naval Battle of Lepanto didn't occur until 1571: that's when the Ottoman's were defeated and the Muslim menace was beaten-back for centuries.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

Vienna, 1683. Not exactly "centuries."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

328 Feels good, doesn't it?
Posted by: Braenyard

Doesn't feel real yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (3sX9I)

329 nood trucks

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (aURVT)

330 311 $30k for college would be going to a local school, staying at home, etc

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I said $30k is the average student loan balance not the cost of college. You have to factor in parental contributions, summer jobs, scholarships, etc.

My State U is about $20 all in a year for in state students. For kids with good grades that gets cut in half with scholarships. So $40-80k all in depending on grades. $30k in loans, summer job, mom and dad contribute some and there you go.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (5Yz+T)

331 So far, we, I've been on a steak and cephalopod diet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 11:04 AM (RXEQR)

332 Interesting story of the guy in CA that won a powerball TWO BILLION dollars. He is buying lots in LA where the fires burned down neighborhoods.

Says he will do new builds on the lots comparable in scale and feel like the pre-fire neighborhoods had, and sell only to families, never to investors. No give-aways, but market pricing.

He is from the area. Quite the feel-good story. Guy could buy his own island or mountainside somewhere and live lush, but he wants to stay put and do some good.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 13, 2025 11:04 AM (TJQqd)

333 >>>Muslim menace was beaten-back for centuries.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
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Good example for today.
These new deals don't sit easy with me.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2025 11:04 AM (eL84x)

334 331 So far, we, I've been on a steak and cephalopod diet.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 13, 2025 11:04 AM (RXEQR)

Except for the G&Ts!

Posted by: m at October 13, 2025 11:05 AM (aURVT)

335 Vienna, 1683. Not exactly "centuries."
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

True, I'd forgotten about that. But in my defense, I would argue that the Ottomans got that far into Eastern Europe due to previous conquests of the Balkans, and European in-fighting. The Poles were key to European victory at Vienna.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 11:07 AM (pJWtt)

336 Posted by: M. Gaga at October 13, 2025 11:04 AM (TJQqd)

that *is* a feel-good story!

I have one from my area that I will post later in Buck's thread. I don't want to go OT right this moment.

Posted by: kalllisto at October 13, 2025 11:07 AM (dCxaZ)

337 Here is yet another movie I plan to skip

Nuremberg is slated to hit theaters Nov. 7th. It is a movie about a psychiatrist trying to determine if Hermann Goring is fit to stand trial. Russel Crowe will star as Hermann Goring.

Yeah, I will watch Judgement at Nuremberg instead. Which is a movie about convicting the judges who gave the Nazis a veneer of legitimacy with their warped rulings.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 13, 2025 11:07 AM (JERN3)

338 Progressive Catholics march with Eucharist to ICE detention center in Chicago

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Any ice calves?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 13, 2025 11:08 AM (L/fGl)

339 Just read an article from a few years ago about Columbus and discovery.

There were three voyages, three discoveries. Columbus discovered Caribbean America and was responsible for Spain creating Hispania, todays Caribbean island countries and Mexico and Spanish South America.

Cabot's 1497 voyage established Englishmen in America, and Cabral's 1500 discovery of what is now Brazil established Portuguese South America.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 13, 2025 11:08 AM (TJQqd)

340 337 I'll watch it. I'll watch anything

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2025 11:08 AM (/E12x)

341 nood -- President Trump is going after illegal migrant truck drivers

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 13, 2025 11:09 AM (pJWtt)

342 My HS kid made about $7k working full time this summer. With the extra vacation college students get that could be close to $10k. Thats half the MSRP cost of State U, before scholarships kick in.

Theres really no need to go into massive debt for college if you plan things out well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 13, 2025 11:09 AM (5Yz+T)

343 Two of the best looking women at the Hooters in Katy TX were twins working their way through their last year of Veterinary school. They were two of the smartest women I have ever met: they both got 100's on their final graduate level Organic Chemistry exam.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Da7Vv)

344 Speaking of art, this is right up the Horde's alley

https://tinyurl.com/Moron-Special

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at October 13, 2025 12:09 PM (i/K7s)

345 My Calendar is calling it Indigenous Peoples Day since their trying to make it look all P.C.

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at October 13, 2025 05:59 PM (wGqjj)

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