Hobby Thread - October 11, 2025 [Lumberjack Rex]

Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. A spin of the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on lumber.

Are you thinking "I hate trees and I don't know anything about lumber, so there is nothing here for me"? No Moron could possibly say such a thing. Stick around. You might be entertained or learn something. You might enjoy hearing from others and seeing what others are hobbying.

I have faith that you can find something in the content that resonates or contribute your own hobbying interests. Dig around in the content and soak in the comments. Be curious. If you were a tree, what tree would you be? Glad you're here.

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What are you hobbying?

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice. Don't be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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This hobby thread was originally going to be a furniture theme. Research started with sourcing lumber and didn't get much further. There is a bounty of videos on YouTube. We'll do furniture in the future but we'll do wood now.

Lumber really isn't a hobby per se, but it is a building block for much hobbying. Hiking or visiting forests, building, lumberjack festivals, painting, photography, history, baseball bats, and more. Besides, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) has spoken.

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Baseball bats? Might as well start with a visit to Louisville, KY:

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Felling knowledge:

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Giant Sequoia stump in California -

A single giant sequoia could provide 500,000 board feet of lumber.

Giant sequoias are only found in one place - a 250-mile stretch of forest along the Western slopes of the Sierra Nevada mountains. They grow at high elevation, between 4,000 and 8,000 feet, and are clustered into roughly 70 groves.

In 1892, the Kings River Lumber Company began logging the Converse Basin, home to giant sequoias with 15- to 20-foot diameter trunks.
Loggers used the same technique to fell a giant sequoia that they used with smaller trees. First, they had to make a V-shaped "undercut." To do that, they built a platform 25-feet high so they could reach the softer part of the trunk. Then two men-one left-handed and one right-handed - started chopping away with double-sided axes.
The loggers-mostly Swedish, Polish, German, Irish and Norwegian immigrants-worked 11-hour days, six days a week. It took each two-man crew several days to hack their way to the center of a tree, leaving behind an undercut tall enough for them to stand inside.
The same men would then go to the other side of the tree and grab each end of a long, two-handled saw. Heaving back and forth, they made one continuous cut back through the trunk toward the undercut. Every foot or so, they hammered in 24-inch steel wedges to prevent the tree's incredible weight from snagging the saw.
When only a few inches remained between the back cut and the undercut, the loggers used even more wedges and powerful blows from a sledgehammer to topple the sequoia in the direction of the undercut. Link

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it can't be a lumber theme without a nod to the Albany Timber Carnival:

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The story of the American Chestnut:

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Lumber guide:

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How not to buy crap lumber:

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This is endearing and entertaining and informative. Finding the perfect wood finish:

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Lumber store lingo:

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I love sawmill videos:

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This needed to fit in here somewhere:

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JTB - this one is for you:

Anatomy of Wood - Improve your carving efficiency with an understanding of wood grain

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Making plywood:

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Mesmerizing and terrifying at the same time:

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I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.

Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.

Trees, Joyce Kilmer.

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Randomly spotted in Hobby Lobby:

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Hobby? Obsession? Illness? Doesn't matter. We salute amateur mad scientist home garage engineering.

How to break two landspeed records:

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Public service announcement:

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did a Christmas crafting theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

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Notable comments from last week department:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Gonna talk about wood!!!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:31 PM (uQesX)

2 Oh, lumber.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:31 PM (uQesX)

3 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 05:32 PM (+qU29)

4 My grandfather made quite a few clocks using a piece of a tree just like that.

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 05:33 PM (+qU29)

5 Sawmills always smell good. Like someone's sharpening pencils.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX)

6 I want a chainsaw sawmill. It's probably a bad idea but that never stopped me before.

Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:35 PM (vFG9F)

7 I want a chainsaw sawmill. It's probably a bad idea but that never stopped me before.
Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:35 PM (vFG9F)

I believe there are kits for making those.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:37 PM (uQesX)

8 "I believe there are kits for making those.
Posted by: OrangeEnt"

There are different kinds from $60 and up. The little portable ones are just a jig that attaches to your saw to guide it while you rip slabs off a log.

Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:40 PM (vFG9F)

9 Anybody count the rings on that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2025 05:43 PM (63Dwl)

10 There are different kinds from $60 and up. The little portable ones are just a jig that attaches to your saw to guide it while you rip slabs off a log.
Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:40 PM (vFG9F)

I don't know if I'd trust one that small. Probably Chinese made too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:44 PM (uQesX)

11 Anybody count the rings on that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2025 05:43 PM (63Dwl)

I have more rings than that, dahlink.

Posted by: Zsa Zsa at October 11, 2025 05:45 PM (uQesX)

12 Good evening TRex.

I get most of my basswood carving wood from Heinecke Wood Products in Wisconsin. Just about any dimensions you would require and the quality has always been top notch.

I saw that Doug Linker YT video when it first came out. He's right. The Beavercraft basswood available through Amazon was good stuff. I prefer to give my business to a US family run operation like Heinecke but that order from Amazon was good wood.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 05:49 PM (yTvNw)

13 "I don't know if I'd trust one that small. Probably Chinese made too.
Posted by: OrangeEnt"

Yep. The better quality made in USA ones are $150 or so and up.

I got a $100 Chinese chainsaw and the dang thing works pretty well. It even came with an extra chain and bar. At that price they are nearly disposable.

Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:54 PM (vFG9F)

14 Having my fair share of trees, and with that comes lots of dead branches, and needing a chainsaw. I have made a lot of charcoal from the maple trees.
https://tinyurl.com/4vtn6d79
Fill a paint can, clean hopefully, with slivers or small chuncks and pack it. Hang or put in fire to cook them with a 1/4" hole in the top. Fire coming out of it ( picture) it's getting close to be done. It's the gasses burning off. When one thinks it's done I plug that hole to smother any fire before it can start.
Cooked many times with the home made charcoal

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 05:54 PM (+qU29)

15 5 Sawmills always smell good. Like someone's sharpening pencils.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX)

Paper mills don't.

Posted by: javems at October 11, 2025 05:55 PM (8I4hW)

16 I collected some twigs and small branches for a firepit the other day. I broke them up with my hands and feet.

Sadly, no power tools were used.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 05:56 PM (Q4IgG)

17 https://tinyurl.com/4d4d54ne

And of course my gargoyle made all from a single piece of a maple log

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 05:56 PM (+qU29)

18 Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.

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A pants-optional pun-friendly thread on 'wood' sounds like asking for trouble.

Can we include Viagra in the discussion?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 05:59 PM (QGaXH)

19 I don't do much with lumber these days except for whittling and caving wood. But I have been fascinated with lumber from childhood. Down the street from my grandparents house was a lumber mill. The building probably went back to the 1700s. The mill operation was probably from Victorian times. It had a permanent perfume of fresh sawn wood. Irresistible to a young boy.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 05:59 PM (yTvNw)

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I like to stick toothpicks in my urethra until its chock full and my wang is rock hard, and then snap it in half and run around screaming "I told you so!"

Posted by: Ghetto Rousseau, Typical Democrat at October 11, 2025 05:59 PM (oyri5)

21 No pants and chainsaws don't seem to me to be a good combination

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:00 PM (+qU29)

22 Thank you L-Jack Rex for this and all your other efforts. Sincerely.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:02 PM (QGaXH)

23 Just finished my first diorama and I'm really happy how it turned out. It depicts a Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tank of the 34th Tank Regiment in Manchuria in 1944. Modeling is such a nice way to forget real life for a while.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at October 11, 2025 06:02 PM (31p00)

24 I can't say I approve of the felling of sequoias. There are plenty of farmable trees that grow fast and can be replaced. Replacing a sequoia or redwood is very time consuming.

Not a fan.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 11, 2025 06:07 PM (xcxpd)

25 23 Modeling is such a nice way to forget real life for a while.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at October 11, 2025 06:02 PM (31p00)

Totally agree! Maybe you could take a pic of your diorama and send it in for a future hobby thread.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:07 PM (QGaXH)

26 Ahh cool hobby thread is up! Let’s see what it is. Lumber? That’s kinda lame.

30 minutes later…. Man those New Zealanders always bring it to the timber competitions.

Posted by: HappyFun at October 11, 2025 06:07 PM (d2+05)

27 PA Dutchman yes it is, my secret for 40 years.
Haven't started the A-10 plane I bought just to try a plastic model assembly

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:07 PM (+qU29)

28 Well, isn't this quite the coincidence. Lumber is the topic, and I just had the tree outside my bedroom window collapse. Fortunately it was *away* from my place. It smashed the back window of a car, not mine, at the curb, and is blocking the sidewalk, with chunks of, well, lumber in the street to cause problems for vehicles.

I've put in a request with the local 311 website, including pics. The guy who owns the car? He only has liability insurance, and he says they won't cover this damage. I suggested he try one of the injury attorneys who are always advertising on TV, to sue the apartment complex for damages due to negligence. The tree was clearly rotten, perhaps from termites.

I thank whatever God is watching over me and all of us that the tree fell away from my window, and that I had not parked my car there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 11, 2025 06:08 PM (omVj0)

29 Lumberjack Rex, thanks to you for the continuing series of fascinating hobby threads.

My hobby, pipe smoking? I had my eye on a Peterson estate (read: "used") pipe of a type and color that appealed to me and that I don't already have. But I hesitated to buy it -- and someone else grabbed it. Oh, well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 11, 2025 06:10 PM (omVj0)

30 24 I can't say I approve of the felling of sequoias. There are plenty of farmable trees that grow fast and can be replaced. Replacing a sequoia or redwood is very time consuming.

Not a fan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 11, 2025 06:07 PM (xcxpd)

Agree with that. Those trees are hundreds/thousands of years old. Can't believe they would have cut them all down if some of the trees hadn't become protected.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:10 PM (QGaXH)

31 Lumber and wood generally is fascinating. So many uses, so much variation in appearance (grain, texture, weight), so much variety in how it responds to tools. And it smells good. Then there is learning the many ways that specific woods are best suited for specific uses.

For a good description of which wood for which task, check out Eric Sloane's "A Reverence for Wood". I've enjoyed it for decades.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 06:12 PM (yTvNw)

32 No time recently but have installed wood from redwoods, assume it's harvested fairly.

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:12 PM (+qU29)

33 24 I can't say I approve of the felling of sequoias. There are plenty of farmable trees that grow fast and can be replaced. Replacing a sequoia or redwood is very time consuming.

Not a fan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October

Agree 100%.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 06:14 PM (mT+6a)

34 More about pipes . . . I went to a pipe trunk show this week at a local pipe/cigar shop. The guy from Laudisi, the company that owns one of the big pipe and tobacco sales websites, brought a bunch of new and very handsome pipes from several different manufacturers. Unfortunately all the ones I liked best were north of $175. So I ended up not buying anything, just hanging out and having some crackers and cheese while puffing on my humble Mastercraft vintage pipe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 11, 2025 06:14 PM (omVj0)

35 Ido keep a saw horse of a kind, a double X connected with a couple boards that I can put a large branch in the V part and chainsaw it without it moving

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:15 PM (+qU29)

36 Anyone connected with instrumental music, except brass, must have learned about wood used in making the instruments even if only to wonder why Stradivarius violins have such a unique quality.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 06:17 PM (yTvNw)

37 Really good thread. Thanks to whomever.

Posted by: javems at October 11, 2025 06:19 PM (8I4hW)

38 One of the primary uses of certain lumber is the production of excellent smoking pipes. They represent the pinnacle of civilized use of wood for mans delight.

Why yes, I do smoke pipes. Quel surprise.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 06:20 PM (yTvNw)

39 Do any of you have specific advice on how to build a bookcase?

Posted by: exonfixer_94 at October 11, 2025 06:21 PM (8Xy/A)

40 Book case? Use 5/4 " boards

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:22 PM (+qU29)

41 For a furniture builder, picking lumber is a second language. For a guitar builder, its a second religion.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 06:22 PM (snZF9)

42 Most of the furniture in my apartment is made from beautiful wood. Mostly pine. Knotty pine has so much character and warmth and complexity, it adds to any room. I have a china hutch my mom found at an antique warehouse on Vashon Island. It’s pine. A little rickety. But it’s really nice and reminds me of her.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 06:23 PM (5QYr4)

43 Anyone connected with instrumental music, except brass, must have learned about wood used in making the instruments even if only to wonder why Stradivarius violins have such a unique quality.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 06:17 PM (yTvNw)

I can spend hours talking about that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 06:23 PM (snZF9)

44 Nurse, if you're here,

The mobile vet was a very nice woman; she let us have all the time we needed to say goodbye to Chekov. I'd called up some classical Russian music on YouTube on the TV, and had a couple of his best pictures on display -- for us, not Chekov. His ancestors might have been Russian cats, but his interest in that and in human classical music was less than zero.

I'm more than glad I decided to do it that way. You, and especially Lucy, will be too. Not for many years yet, though!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 11, 2025 06:24 PM (omVj0)

45 I saw on YouTube someone had an outline sign not to ride the Stegosaurus.

That got me wondering. What kind of dinosaur would a T Rex ride? Any one it wants to!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 11, 2025 06:25 PM (S/Y4j)

46 39 Do any of you have specific advice on how to build a bookcase?
Posted by: exonfixer_94 at October 11, 2025 06:21 PM (8Xy/A)

Cement blocks, boards, some assembly required.

Results may vary.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:25 PM (QGaXH)

47 All of the sudden I feel wood.

Posted by: Roger Moore at October 11, 2025 06:25 PM (WQDw6)

48 One of the primary uses of certain lumber is the production of excellent smoking pipes. They represent the pinnacle of civilized use of wood for mans delight.

Why yes, I do smoke pipes. Quel surprise.
Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025

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And they look like beautiful little bits of furniture. It was why I couldn't bear to give them away during the years I no longer smoked them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 11, 2025 06:26 PM (omVj0)

49 I lumber through the halls of government. That's what were talking about, right you guys?

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at October 11, 2025 06:26 PM (7Q0e+)

50 Do any of you have specific advice on how to build a bookcase?

Posted by: exonfixer_94 at October 11, 2025 06:21 PM (8Xy/A)

It would depend on what level of tooling you have, how much cursing you want to do, how much you want to spend, and how much time you got left on the planet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 06:27 PM (snZF9)

51 50 It would depend on what level of tooling you have, how much cursing you want to do, how much you want to spend, and how much time you got left on the planet.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 06:27 PM (snZF9)

And don't get us started on shelving!

Oops - I guess I just did.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:29 PM (QGaXH)

52 Always up for a dendrochronology thread.
fun fact: because of the AD 993 carbon spike, the Anse aux Meadows viking site's lumber was dated to AD 1022.
And if the Miyake AD 774 spike ever happens again, we're not going to be able to post here.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 11, 2025 06:30 PM (gKWVE)

53 Regarding the video thumbnail image under the "Finding the perfect wood finish" ... i thought that was a flight of whiskey!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 11, 2025 06:33 PM (36PRH)

54 I have tried many times counting tree rings, I don't think it's easy as it seems

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:35 PM (+qU29)

55 52 Always up for a dendrochronology thread.
fun fact: because of the AD 993 carbon spike, the Anse aux Meadows viking site's lumber was dated to AD 1022.
And if the Miyake AD 774 spike ever happens again, we're not going to be able to post here.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 11, 2025 06:30 PM (gKWVE)

Don't leave us in suspense! What are these carbon spikes you speak of ?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:35 PM (QGaXH)

56 Which chainsaw brand is best? Stihl or Husqvarna?
(Laughs manically and runs away)

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 11, 2025 06:35 PM (/1zfW)

57 How to get tiger maple to show its tiger stripes: https://tinyurl.com/yc8aujx6

Posted by: Alex Holz at October 11, 2025 06:38 PM (iL0qN)

58 Been to Sequoia NP many times. The blurb left out that when the trees were felled They shattered So the stopped cutting them down as they were not good for lumber.

Bonneville On race days is fun. We were there when Burt Monroe's (World' fastest Indian| movie plug) nephew tried to beat his record. It didn't happen.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 11, 2025 06:39 PM (LASI8)

59 54 I have tried many times counting tree rings, I don't think it's easy as it seems
Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 06:35 PM (+qU29)

Tree rings always reminds me of the scene in the movie Vertigo where Jimmy Stewart and Kim Novak are looking at the section of the giant sequoia with the dates showing how big the tree was whenever.

Even knowing how the movie turns out that scene still gives me chills...

But this is the Hobby Thread not the Movie Thread....but movies could be a hobby......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:39 PM (QGaXH)

60 56 Which chainsaw brand is best? Stihl or Husqvarna?
(Laughs manically and runs away)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 11, 2025 06:35 PM
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When my son was working as a wildland firefighter, I asked him that very question. His response was "The one that you can handle safely."

Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 11, 2025 06:41 PM (lWPQK)

61 57 How to get tiger maple to show its tiger stripes: https://tinyurl.com/yc8aujx6

Posted by: Alex Holz at October 11, 2025 06:38 PM
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Great link. Thanks for posting.

Posted by: TRex - not a tiger at October 11, 2025 06:41 PM (E7bBj)

62 57 How to get tiger maple to show its tiger stripes: https://tinyurl.com/yc8aujx6
Posted by: Alex Holz at October 11, 2025 06:38 PM (iL0qN)
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Very nice! Reminds me of burl wood, but without any of the imperfections.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 11, 2025 06:41 PM (36PRH)

63 Sequoias are living things and die like any other tree. Would rather see them used that just rot. A lot of what they use these days is salvage.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 11, 2025 06:42 PM (kUxzU)

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No time recently but have installed wood from redwoods, assume it's harvested fairly.
Posted by: Skip

Cage-free

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2025 06:43 PM (63Dwl)

65 Thank you, Wolfus.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 06:46 PM (mqcLc)

66 What are these carbon spikes you speak of ?

When a free neutron hits carbon-13 it becomes carbon-14. This is radioactive and beta-decays: nitrogen-14.
How those neutrons show up is the trick. You usually don't see a neutron by itself.
I just looked it up and still nobody can tell me the cause of these neutron spikes. Supernova, flare, or a failure in the magnetic field might do it. Flare seems to be the consensus.
Something bad happened in our upper atmosphere at these "Miyake" events.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 11, 2025 06:46 PM (gKWVE)

67 I imagine counting tree rings accurately involves some sort of polishing and staining process, along with use of a magnifier.

As a student metallurgist I had to learn how to properly polish and etch metals to bring out the microstructure. The whole field of metallurgy moved from magic to science once they figured out, with the aid of good microscopes, what the various microstructures meant and how to reliably reproduce them.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:47 PM (QGaXH)

68 I own an Echo 702avl made for Craftsman and a 702avl Echo made for John Deere. Both 3.9 ci.
Two badass machines.
The construction is so precise, you can lock the piston in the cylinder with a single human hair.
The Craftsman saw was brand new when the owner dropped a tree on it.
He gave me the box of parts and I rebuilt it.
I've had all 409 parts in my hand.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 11, 2025 06:48 PM (WQDw6)

69 774-775 carbon-14 spike
https://shorturl.at/DPO3N
Wikipedia

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 11, 2025 06:48 PM (ULPxl)

70 > One of the primary uses of certain lumber is the production of excellent smoking pipes. They represent the pinnacle of civilized use of wood for mans delight.
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Also... HiFi speakers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 06:49 PM (Q4IgG)

71 Back in before times, I made furniture as a hobby, very expensive hobby. Most important thing I learned about wood was to know the actual species I wanted.
The mahoganies, maples, oaks, rosewoods, satinwoods are a swamp of marketing.
About the gasoline, Wolfus, I buy my E0 from Royal Farms in Accomack county. The price difference between premium and E0 is a few cents either way.

Posted by: Accomack at October 11, 2025 06:53 PM (FqNtp)

72 Huge hobby content! But when the theme is Got Wood? you're just preaching to the choir at the HQ.

My hobby is old cars and today I have the honor of resuscitating a 1970 Mercedes coupe. Supposedly it ran when parked five years ago and now it's just covered with a proper amount of dust like a barn find. We put air in the tires and messed around trying to charge the battery and then finally replaced the battery. Still no start. Soooo. Check distributor, yes points open and close. Then check dwell. No dwell! Hey, no 12V at + Coil terminal... Then we started drinking beer. Will continue tomorrow.

Posted by: scottst at October 11, 2025 06:53 PM (EC3qn)

73 My engine light came on after two tanks of regular: cat performance below threshold.

Posted by: Accomack at October 11, 2025 06:55 PM (FqNtp)

74 Huge hobby content! But when the theme is Got Wood? you're just preaching to the choir at the HQ.

Posted by: scottst at October 11, 2025 06:53 PM (EC3qn)

You're right! First comment out front should have told you.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 06:56 PM (uQesX)

75 Anyone connected with instrumental music, except brass, must have learned about wood used in making the instruments even if only to wonder why Stradivarius violins have such a unique quality.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 06:17 PM (yTvNw)

Actually, it wasn't just the wood strad used, it was his actual design. The wood for the top had grown during the mini ice age, so the growth rings were closer together. Strad had the wood and the design. When strad was building violins they were basically baroque violins. The necks themselves were not set at an angle, and the fingerboards themselves were wedge fingerboards. The problem with that was the necks got thicker as you got closer to the body. In the 1800's when virtuoso playing came into play they started resetting the necks at an angle, and making the fingerboards a consistent thickness. Concert pitch had also became higher, so the violins had to have the bass bar under the top changed. After that all happened strad's flatter top archings worked great with the new mods, and his violins true power was realized. Strad never heard his violins as we all hear them, because they all have been modded.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 06:56 PM (snZF9)

76 64
No time recently but have installed wood from redwoods, assume it's harvested fairly.
Posted by: Skip

Cage-free
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2025 06:43 PM (63Dwl)
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I prefer wood harvested from free-range trees.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 11, 2025 06:56 PM (36PRH)

77 72 My hobby is old cars and today I have the honor of resuscitating a 1970 Mercedes coupe. Supposedly it ran when parked five years ago and now it's just covered with a proper amount of dust like a barn find.

Posted by: scottst at October 11, 2025 06:53 PM
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Outstanding! Best wishes (with the beer and the car).

Posted by: TRex - often covered with dust at October 11, 2025 06:56 PM (E7bBj)

78 I want a chainsaw sawmill. It's probably a bad idea but that never stopped me before.
Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:35 PM (vFG9F)

There is a number of companies that make those, I always heard of them as Alaska Mills, and they are slow. It is a jig that you attach to your bar, and it keeps the blade level and the thickness correct on the slab you are cutting. There are some tutorials and brags on YouTube on other folk who have made them, some are pretty elaborate, and some are made from 2x4s.
I wanted a mobile mill, but I don't think I will be getting one unless I really get motivated.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 06:57 PM (rbvCR)

79 I have finished up my Winter store of firewood, three cords about.
Eventually I need to screw the metal roofing on the woodshed so the sheets stop blowing off in heavy winds.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 06:58 PM (rbvCR)

80 69 774-775 carbon-14 spike
https://shorturl.at/DPO3N
Wikipedia
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 11, 2025 06:48 PM (ULPxl)

Thank you for the link H2

I find it amazing how these events are recorded in something mundane like tree rings. I wonder what other secrets lie waiting in everyday nature only to be discovered once we have the technology and scientific knowledge to understand them.

How many thousands of years was man aware of tree rings yet unaware of what secrets they held?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 06:58 PM (QGaXH)

81 HOOSIERS!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 06:59 PM (mT+6a)

82 >>Strad never heard his violins as we all hear them, because they all have been modded.

That was really interesting.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2025 06:59 PM (viF8m)

83 Trees are a crop, even redwoods. There are stands around here that have very evenly spaced trees.

Posted by: Accomack at October 11, 2025 07:00 PM (FqNtp)

84 Some Rat has a woodshop.

I wish he was here to contribute.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 07:01 PM (mT+6a)

85 First house hunting looked at a house with a saw mill.
The house was kind of gingerbread, lots of homemade wood trim.

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)

86 78 I want a chainsaw sawmill. It's probably a bad idea but that never stopped me before.
Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 05:35 PM (vFG9F)

There is a number of companies that make those, I always heard of them as Alaska Mills, and they are slow. It is a jig that you attach to your bar, and it keeps the blade level and the thickness correct on the slab you are cutting. There are some tutorials and brags on YouTube on other folk who have made them, some are pretty elaborate, and some are made from 2x4s.
I wanted a mobile mill, but I don't think I will be getting one unless I really get motivated.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 06:57 PM (rbvCR)
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Who makes the Wood-Mizer sawmill? There's a channel with a petite blonde woman in yoga pants that operates one of those. Ace linked it few years ago.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 11, 2025 07:02 PM (36PRH)

87 Wow. Good grief, dux.
Nebraska won, which is nice.

Posted by: Accomack at October 11, 2025 07:02 PM (FqNtp)

88 Ducks lose!
Ducks lose!

Whoofreakinghoo!!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 07:02 PM (mT+6a)

89 Speaking of carbon-14 chemistry, why was the Shroud of Turin dated to the 14th century, despite ample evidence it dates to the 1st century? Scientific misconduct?

Posted by: exonfixer_94 at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (8Xy/A)

90 HOOSIERS!
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Just put a hitch in the ducks get-a-long.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (WQDw6)

91 > Strad never heard his violins as we all hear them, because they all have been modded.
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Wouldn't (SWIDT) the violins change anyway.... over time, with wood shrinkage, drying, new strings, etc?

Even if never modded?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (Q4IgG)

92 There has been some wonderful success in bringing back elm trees resistant to Dutch elm disease. A lot of research is going on in Virginia. I'll never see elm lumber in my lifetime but I would love to have a small piece of green elm to try carving.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:05 PM (yTvNw)

93 84 Some Rat has a woodshop.

I wish he was here to contribute.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 07:01 PM (mT+6a)

Nurse

I saw you enjoyed your recent visit down here. I had to look on a map to locate the town. Ive been thru there a time or two.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 07:06 PM (QGaXH)

94 A whole separate topic would be polishing and preserving wood, both materials and techniques.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:09 PM (yTvNw)

95 Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)

It’s a cookie cutter planned community, but it’s a home. And they own it. Marine just got another contract tech job, with ICE and he’s making twice what I do. And it’s fully remote.

They have a plan.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 07:11 PM (mT+6a)

96 89 Speaking of carbon-14 chemistry, why was the Shroud of Turin dated to the 14th century, despite ample evidence it dates to the 1st century? Scientific misconduct?
Posted by: exonfixer_94 at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (8Xy/A)

I recall seeing something about that in the news recently. Science is never settled so there may yet be new developments/techniques to shed light on the mystery.

Or the Shroud, like the Voynich Manuscript may forever remain a mystery....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 07:12 PM (QGaXH)

97 94 A whole separate topic would be polishing and preserving wood, both materials and techniques.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:09 PM
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Agreed. We'll include in the context of a furniture thread (i.e. restoration).

Posted by: TRex - well preserved at October 11, 2025 07:12 PM (E7bBj)

98 Alternate theme song: Lumberjack by Jackyl

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 11, 2025 07:12 PM (f4JTG)

99 In addition to bringing back elm trees, there is a huge effort to restore American chestnut trees. I'm encouraged that these efforts are happening.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:13 PM (yTvNw)

100 I am not sure what exactly, but as said my grandfather made clocks out of tree slices and had to prepare them so they wouldn't split. For some time oiled them continually before he could use them.

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 07:14 PM (+qU29)

101 98 Alternate theme song: Lumberjack by Jackyl

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 11, 2025 07:12 PM
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It was considered. So was the Monty Python lumberjack song. Ended up going with the mystery click.

Posted by: TRex - Puns for sale at October 11, 2025 07:15 PM (E7bBj)

102 95 Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)

It’s a cookie cutter planned community, but it’s a home. And they own it. Marine just got another contract tech job, with ICE and he’s making twice what I do. And it’s fully remote.

They have a plan.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 07:11 PM (mT+6a)

A home is a home especially here in So. cal. Some many of the younger generation leave the area because it's just so expensive here neat the coast.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 11, 2025 07:15 PM (QGaXH)

103 >>Strad never heard his violins as we all hear them, because they all have been modded.

That was really interesting.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2025 06:59 PM (viF8m)

Yeah I didn't have the room to tell all of it. In the late 1600's he was doing all kinds of experiments. He had eventually built what they call the "long strad" its only 5/8" longer, but it was noticeable in appearance. He ended up moving away from that design, but during that period he started using a flatter top arching, and he found that it really changed how it projected tone. A lot of the makers had a taller arching to their tops. When the neck angles changed the necks had to be about 5/8" longer, so necks either had a shim, or were just renecked. The scrolls would be cut off the original and grafted to the new neck. The heavier bass bar for the new concert pitch had stiffened the top more than it was originally. Put all that together with strads design and the puzzle pieces were all in place.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:15 PM (snZF9)

104 Used to have a pto-driven circular saw. That was fun. 36 inches of danger.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 11, 2025 07:16 PM (f4JTG)

105 Wouldn't (SWIDT) the violins change anyway.... over time, with wood shrinkage, drying, new strings, etc?

Even if never modded?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (Q4IgG)

After modifications they became completely different violins.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:17 PM (snZF9)

106 Strad was great and all, but he never made a flying V.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 11, 2025 07:19 PM (f4JTG)

107 > Wouldn't (SWIDT) the violins change anyway.... over time, with wood shrinkage, drying, new strings, etc?

Even if never modded?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 07:03 PM (Q4IgG)

After modifications they became completely different violins.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:17 PM (snZF9)
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Ahhh... understood.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 07:20 PM (Q4IgG)

108 Time to say thank you and good night before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here and bouncing through the oddball ideas the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) comes up with each week.

Posted by: TRex -tree lover at October 11, 2025 07:23 PM (E7bBj)

109 I wonder how much the harvesting and use of wood has influenced civilization. Besides fire and lighting, there is weaponry for hunting and warfare, buildings, furniture that is strong and portable, ships, wheels, bridges to move people and goods across waters that would stop things otherwise, even development of tools to procure the wood.

The only things of similar import that comes to mind are agriculture and textiles.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:25 PM (yTvNw)

110 I have two Stihls, they are lighter construction than they used to be. Still a good saw.
I got a 16' Bar one new from my wife, and the first thing I managed to do with it was run it with the bar lock on and the choke on, and burned out the clutch,

The second thing I did was learn how to replace the clutch and the needle bearings. Oh, and how to remove the melted plastic from the case from where it melted into the clutch. A narrow chisel works well, if you wind up in the same place.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 07:27 PM (rbvCR)

111 Strad was great and all, but he never made a flying V.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 11, 2025 07:19 PM (f4JTG)

I know, bummer, lol. He did made 2 maybe 3 guitars though. I know at least one survived.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:27 PM (snZF9)

112 I wonder how much the harvesting and use of wood has influenced civilization. Besides fire and lighting, there is weaponry for hunting and warfare, buildings, furniture that is strong and portable, ships, wheels, bridges to move people and goods across waters that would stop things otherwise, even development of tools to procure the wood.

The only things of similar import that comes to mind are agriculture and textiles.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:25 PM (yTvNw)

I'm more amazed at just how much building techniques were influenced by the wood itself.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:30 PM (snZF9)

113 Elm trees...ugh!

There were 2 large and 1 HUGE elms in this yard, once upon a time. All are gone now, the most recently-removed was cut down in 2018. Saplings, both root sucker & seedling, are my constant, lingering adversaries!

Tree-guy counted the rings on *huge* tree-- 82. Its canopy covered well over half of this (half-acre) property! Yes, I miss the shade. I do not miss the ocean of little seeds each May.

Posted by: JQ at October 11, 2025 07:30 PM (rdVOm)

114 75 ... Berserker, I knew about how the mini ice age mattered to the wood Stradivarius used but didn't know about how the modifications to his basic design affected the tones we hear today. Thanks.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:30 PM (yTvNw)

115 Skip - your X-shaped contraption is called a "sawbuck", which is why, given the Roman numeral for ten, the ten-dollar bill has the same nickname.

JTB, I was given the same book in high school as I was beginning my love affair with wood and its lessons are still with me fifty years later.

JTB and Berserker, my attraction to all things wooden and an early ability to play guitar pretty well led me to the woodshop in college. With access to the lumber stacks at Gurian Guitars in Hinsdale NH thanks to a couple of recent grads from my college, I began building a copy of a Martin D-28 as a 17 y/o freshman and finished it later that year at 18. I still have it and it sounds like a vintage Martin. It should, as it's the same relative age as the famed pre-war Martins were when I built it. That little adventure in fine woodworking led to a 40-odd year career as a woodworker, cabinetmaker, carpenter, and contractor. Unfortunately, a late-blooming variety of Muscular Dystrophy has wiped out my career in carpentry as well as 50 years of playing guitar. My son will get my guitar and some tools, and I'm in the process of giving away the rest. It hurts, a lot.

Posted by: Cowboyneal - the Other Jewish Carpenter at October 11, 2025 07:31 PM (/jWPx)

116 Not lumber, just placed an order for a half cord of fire wood. Also, I'm rehabbing a church pew by adding white oak to the sides so it can be used as a bench and not need to be screwed or nailed to a floor, pews can be tippy. Going to raffle it to raise funds for church projects.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 11, 2025 07:32 PM (2NHgQ)

117 I love trees! Anybody know whether the American Chestnut restoration people are making any progress?

Posted by: Paco at October 11, 2025 07:33 PM (mADJX)

118 One of the things I appreciated on The Woodwright's Shop shows was how Roy Underhill would explain why certain woods were used for specific jobs. I miss that show.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:33 PM (yTvNw)

119 Long ago as a kid, I h8ed aluminum baseball bats

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 07:34 PM (+qU29)

120 JTB and Berserker, my attraction to all things wooden and an early ability to play guitar pretty well led me to the woodshop in college. With access to the lumber stacks at Gurian Guitars in Hinsdale NH thanks to a couple of recent grads from my college, I began building a copy of a Martin D-28 as a 17 y/o freshman and finished it later that year at 18. I still have it and it sounds like a vintage Martin. It should, as it's the same relative age as the famed pre-war Martins were when I built it. That little adventure in fine woodworking led to a 40-odd year career as a woodworker, cabinetmaker, carpenter, and contractor. Unfortunately, a late-blooming variety of Muscular Dystrophy has wiped out my career in carpentry as well as 50 years of playing guitar. My son will get my guitar and some tools, and I'm in the process of giving away the rest. It hurts, a lot.

Posted by: Cowboyneal - the Other Jewish Carpenter at October 11, 2025 07:31 PM (/jWPx)

I went the opposite. I had the wood background in furniture and cabinet making before building classical guitars. Probably at least 75% of the known old world classical guitar builders started as trained cabinet makers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:35 PM (snZF9)

121 When I lived in Richmond, VA, there was a large elm growing along an old dry creek bed near my house. I always looked for saplings growing in the vicinity, but never found any.

Posted by: Paco at October 11, 2025 07:36 PM (mADJX)

122 Felling trees and making lumber out of them is a high calling indeed.

Posted by: Eromero at October 11, 2025 07:36 PM (LHPAg)

123 Michigan playing USC is the stuff of nightmares

Posted by: Accomack at October 11, 2025 07:38 PM (Bbhox)

124 117 ... "Anybody know whether the American Chestnut restoration people are making any progress?"

There is progress but, of course, it's a slow process. There are several YT videos about the ongoing efforts.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:39 PM (yTvNw)

125 Unfortunately, a late-blooming variety of Muscular Dystrophy has wiped out my career in carpentry as well as 50 years of playing guitar. My son will get my guitar and some tools, and I'm in the process of giving away the rest. It hurts, a lot.

Posted by: Cowboyneal - the Other Jewish Carpenter at October 11, 2025 07:31 PM (/jWPx)

Damn.I have seen similar. My father was a good guitar player. I watched RA wipe out his ability to play. I built him a beautiful classical guitar. 2 years later he couldn't play it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:40 PM (snZF9)

126 I suspect some old violins become a Theseus kind of thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at October 11, 2025 07:40 PM (0aYVJ)

127 There are surviving Chestnut barns and outbuildings nearby, here in the mountains. Though it is rare, I have been in some old buildings here with heavy Chestnut paneling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 11, 2025 07:43 PM (XeU6L)

128 Problem with trees they grow so slowly

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 07:44 PM (+qU29)

129 I suspect some old violins become a Theseus kind of thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at October 11, 2025 07:40 PM (0aYVJ)

yeah some of the strads have crazy stories. Most are known by the names of original or early famous owners.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 11, 2025 07:45 PM (snZF9)

130 MOVIE MARQUE IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 07:45 PM (+qU29)

131 TRex,

Thanks for another wonderful hobby thread. With a topic like lumber and wood there are so many possible considerations. And, God help us, aspects to think about long after the thread is over.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 07:45 PM (yTvNw)

132 There are surviving Chestnut barns and outbuildings nearby...

Example:

https://shorturl.at/4iFnl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 11, 2025 07:47 PM (XeU6L)

133 I gave them the info on the chestnut trees in Carson WA. They are in the nursery arborteum, that was planted in the 1930s. They say American chestnut but the chestnut group told me they are European. Didn't seem interested. They are beautiful trees.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 11, 2025 07:53 PM (kUxzU)

134
Some of my earliest memories are of going to the sawmill where grandpa was the senior machinist, responsible for keeping everything sharp.

He had a shop, with a hugemongous circular rotary white whetstone, water cooled, that he would mount the blades of the planers in. When the blades were all done he would only handle them with a set of pliars they were so sharp. The blades were all hardened stainless steel ( i think ). When one would break, he would cut a handle into it, sharpen the narrow end, and give it to my Dad to be a gasket scraper. I have one of those he sharpened in 1974 that he gave to me. It'll cut like a razor to this day and I have not been kind to it at all.

For the model railroaders...his machine shop was the inner wall of the mill's v2 Heisler steam yard engine. Another happy memory of mine was playing on that as a toddler.

Sawmill was in Ferriday, LA. Here's a pin drop in google maps.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/tFjLbKfytiRXWqXq7

Posted by: BifBewalski - at October 11, 2025 07:57 PM (QVmho)

135 BifBewalski --- A wonderful memory.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 11, 2025 07:59 PM (XeU6L)

136 It's sure a good thing we didn't log all that Spotted Owl habitat in California. The fires would have not been so epic.

Since I bought my place I have had several big mature trees die off. I still have most of the limbs and trunks. Soon I will have a burl from a Plumb tree about 15" around. Don't have a wood lathe big enough to do anything with any of it but maybe someday. My small wood lathe is more geared towards pens and chair legs.
Turning wood is fun but easy. Actually almost anything in wood is easy. It was the first medium I worked in doing things from ground up. METAL is my thing. I have 3 metal lathes, two that will eventually be melded into one working one and one working one. Have eyes on a Bridgepot mill for a reasonable price.
Now that there is cheap battery powers hammer drills I want to try Granite. For the money for a headstone I need to buy I could get some decent tools and a big piece from the in laws property in CA and do it myself.

Posted by: Reforger at October 11, 2025 08:01 PM (D89Gv)

137 Appropriately, I spent this afternoon cutting up a fallen tree in the woods by my house. Tricky job: the tree was rotten at the base and so broke off about four feet up and fell. The bottom few feet were rotten but the rest was sound, so I had a 40-foot span of birch tree about three feet off the ground, supported by the stump at one end and the crown at the other.

In that situation you cut in from the side and then down -- and then either cut the remaining section from the top or let the tree's weight snap it, which is what happened. Then it was just a matter of cutting it into segments. And by "just" of course I mean two days of swearing, cutting off limbs, trying to turn a two-ton log so I can cut through it, and similar entertainment. But now I have next winter's firewood ready to cure and split. It's birch, too -- the stuff burns like plutonium.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 11, 2025 08:01 PM (78a2H)

138 And as a bonus, the woods smell like chewing gum.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 11, 2025 08:02 PM (78a2H)

139
Anyone connected with instrumental music, except brass, must have learned about wood used in making the instruments even if only to wonder why Stradivarius violins have such a unique quality.
Posted by: JTB
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I can spend hours talking about that.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Watched a documentary on how a Bassoon is created. Very interesting as i played one in high school. The show made it look simple, even installing the Rube Goldberg hardware connecting the keys to the pads on the four sections.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at October 11, 2025 08:05 PM (QVmho)

140 I may know a thing or two about lumber, but I'll remain silent on the politics of the fucked up federal management of the industry.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 11, 2025 10:37 PM (Om+DK)

141 great posts

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