Democrat-Antifa-Media Party Ramps Up Lies to Conceal Their Agenda of Paying Illegals to Come Here and Vote for Them

Elizabeth Warren insists it's "flat-out lie" to say the truth: The Democrat-Antifa-Media Party wants to reverse the part of the Big Beautiful Bill which ends "emergency" payments to hospitals to pay for the health care of illegal aliens.

It's right in their bill. It says so. They're repealing that (or would if they could).

The lie they've settled on goes like this: First they claim that we're saying we're ending the Obamacare subsidies for illegal aliens. Uh, no one's saying that. People did say that a few times before they had the details right, but they're not saying it now.

So they keep saying we're saying that they want to pay for Obamacare for illegal aliens, and they say that's a lie.

But we're not saying that. We're saying that the Big Beautiful Bill ended "emergency" Medicaid reimbursements to hospital for providing care for illegals. And they're demanding the repeal of that provision.

When you point that out, they start lying and claiming that you're saying they want Obamacare for illegals, even though you're specifically saying they want "emergency" Medicaid reimbursements for illegal aliens.

Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren shouted over "CBS Mornings" host Tony Dokoupil on Thursday as he confronted her on Democrats wanting to give healthcare to non-citizens.
Dokoupil pointed to the Democrats' counter-proposal to the Republicans' continuing resolution (CR), which Republicans said would have provided healthcare to some non-citizens that are no longer eligible for those benefits under President Donald Trump's "big, beautiful bill." A visibly frustrated Warren quickly interrupted Dokoupil to state that Republicans are blatantly lying about her party wanting to give healthcare to illegal immigrants.
"Republicans say what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars, as they put it, for illegal aliens. I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision--" Dokoupil added.
"Excuse me, not strictly true. It is a flat-out lie. It is a flat-out lie!" Warren said. "There is nothing in Medicaid, there is nothing in Medicare that permits one undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance. None, zero." (RELATED: JD Vance Tells Peter Doocy Government Shutdown Will Probably Not Last Too Long)
"Senator, if you would like me finish the question," Dokoupil said. "In the Democratic counter offer, the proposal for funding, there is a restoration for Medicaid benefits for certain non-citizens that had been taken away in the big, beautiful bill as Republicans put it. Republicans don't think those people should be getting healthcare on the taxpayers' dime, I'm not asking on the merits. Politically, putting that in there exposes you to this talking point, this lie as you put it. Why put it in there? Why is it worth it?"

Here's mustachioed villain Kaitlin Collins insisting it's a "lie" to say that Democrats want to restore Medicaid funding for illegal aliens' health care by saying "But they can't get Obamacare!"

We're not saying that, Magnum P.M.S. We're saying the Democrats want to restore Medicaid reimbursements for illegal's health care.

FOR YEARS, Democrats have unapologetically argued FOR putting illegals on Medicaid. Several Dem governors have already done it. Why lie about it now? The American people aren’t fooled. I don’t give an INCH on @cnn in my latest debate. pic.twitter.com/G99AjTZkCJ
— Scott Jennings (@ScottJenningsKY) October 2, 2025

Here, CNN cuts off Speaker Johnson as he's about to blow up their lie.

CNN is not a NEWS organization. They cut off the Republican press conference to CENSOR the truth from the American people and LIE about indisputable FACTS:

On page 57 of the Democrat’s OWN bill - they insist we restore $200 BILLION in health care subsidies for illegal aliens.… pic.twitter.com/Aycaj1zopx
— Speaker Mike Johnson (@SpeakerJohnson) October 2, 2025

Below, lifelong hard-left Democrat activist Jake Tapper agrees with a rare no-sombrero-wearing Hakeem Jeffries that it's a dirty Republican "lie" to say that Democrats want to fund health care for illegals... but then points out that, in fact, Democrats are fighting to fund health care for illegals.

Tapper: Here is the provision that shows you want to give illegals healthcare. I understand it's not an accurate depiction.

Jeffries: It's a lie.

Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals. pic.twitter.com/jyQS3RMj7e
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) October 1, 2025

This is not a new position for Democrats. This isn't a misunderstanding of their position.

During the primaries in 2019, they candidates -- the top Democrats in the party -- all said in unison they wanted American taxpayers to pay for illegals' health care.

You tell me pic.twitter.com/l1ewkNUR12
— Dr. Richard Harambe (@Richard_Harambe) October 1, 2025

Kamala Harris openly said she wanted to give free healthcare to illegal aliens.

She was the Democrat Party's nominee for president just last year.

Now Democrats want to pretend that they didn't just shut down the government over healthcare for illegals. pic.twitter.com/Guw8KkexPY
— Christian Collins (@CollinsforTX) October 2, 2025

It's not happening
It's happening but it's not a big deal <-- you are here https://t.co/WIdqhjIXWH
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) October 1, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 02:32 PM

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1 I'm off to nood

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 02:31 PM (jPh2t)

2 wtw543vtw45vt

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 02:32 PM (4U88C)

3 Top 10!

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:32 PM (TN0g+)

4 I really don't care about the arguments at the core of the shutdown.

All I care about is that it goes on for at least 30 days so Russ Vought can get his freak on properly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

5 Rookie mistake--I read the material.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (TN0g+)

6 "It's not happening but it's good that it is."

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (UnA8+)

7 If we don't let illegals in, how are we going to give them Medicaid???

-the democrats

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (kDHiw)

8 If it's a lie, tell us why the hospitals need that money.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (v/TvA)

9
2 wtw543vtw45vt
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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2? 2???!!!

DANG, that's like the third time that's happened this week.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (4U88C)

10 They say that Keir Starmer looks like a Muppet, which is true. But I think Mike Johnson kinda looks like a Muppet, too.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

11 The years of lying makes every new lie less and less effective.

It's like the current trend of CEOs- only care about the short-term and have zero interest or understanding of long-term consequences.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (zjgNU)

12 It's not working for Dems. They're shrieking as loudly as they can, but nobody's listening (except a handful of their true believers)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (uWKK8)

13 Lying dirtbags

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (VE6XX)

14 The government is shut down??? I didn't even notice.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (kDHiw)

15 I really don't care about the arguments at the core of the shutdown.

All I care about is that it goes on for at least 30 days so Russ Vought can get his freak on properly.
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Agreed. We don't need to "recruit 7 more Democratic Senators". We need Republican defectors. Let's sit this one out and we can talk about it again--in 2026.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (TN0g+)

16 wtw543vtw45vt
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Gesundheit!

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (77rzZ)

17 The Party of Women became the Party of Gays became the Party of Violent Criminals became the Party of Trannies became the Party of Illegals became the Party of Jihadists.

You are here.

Posted by: ... at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (HXXqj)

18 I just can't figure out how the entire Democrat Party and the media (BIRM) doesn't burst into a flame worthy of a supernova.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (Riz8t)

19 10 They say that Keir Starmer looks like a Muppet, which is true. But I think Mike Johnson kinda looks like a Muppet, too.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

Johnson is just ordinary average, which probably stands out given all the freaks were used to seeing lately.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (uWKK8)

20 I just have to say I hate reading bills that refer to other laws and merely say "add 'and' to §xyz paragraph t subsection r...". Hard to get the entire picture...and some of these bills are more than a thousand pages of this shit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

21 15 Agreed. We don't need to "recruit 7 more Democratic Senators". We need Republican defectors. Let's sit this one out and we can talk about it again--in 2026.
Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (TN0g+)

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When Vought has fired his second hundred thousand employees and Democrats want it to stop, Thune should introduce a new CR that funds the government until November that includes language saying, "Democrats must wear clown clothes in Congress."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

22 But but but ... what about all the poor illegal Mexican weather girls who won't be able to go to the ER for their boo-boo?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

23 Same playbook. Always.

No one believes them any more.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (GISx8)

24 Trump's sombrero meme was genius. Not only put Dems on back foot and defensive (besides being hilarious), but brought the illegal health care issue front and center so that even dimwits like Tapper had to figure out it was true. Dems have no credibility with the public on this issue either after four years of open borders and everyday experiences seeing ERs overrun with illegals.

Posted by: the dandy at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (8l8nW)

25 I really don't care about the arguments at the core of the shutdown.

All I care about is that it goes on for at least 30 days so Russ Vought can get his freak on properly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

Me too, but he'd better move quickly AND comprehensively because when the Democrats finally understand what he plans to do, they'll cave on funding immediately.

So he'd better hit every target at once.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (zjgNU)

26 Tapper: Here is the provision that shows you want to give illegals healthcare. I understand it's not an accurate depiction.

Jeffries: It's a lie.

Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals.

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If you were to type that in an Excel formula, it would give you a circular reference warning/error

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (kDHiw)

27 So, what's the emergency that requires renewed emergency funding?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (pIfcn)

28 I just have to say I hate reading bills that refer to other laws and merely say "add 'and' to §xyz paragraph t subsection r...". Hard to get the entire picture...and some of these bills are more than a thousand pages of this shit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ynpvh)
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That is the whole point

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (iFTx/)

29 20 I just have to say I hate reading bills that refer to other laws and merely say "add 'and' to §xyz paragraph t subsection r...". Hard to get the entire picture...and some of these bills are more than a thousand pages of this shit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

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Because they're modifying existing legislation. Gotta go back and forth on that shit.

Yes, it's a pain, and it's just what happens when legislation is allowed to fester for decades and decades.

28th Amendment: All laws have a mandatory sunset period of 10 years. They can never be referenced again as statute after the sunset period is up. New legislation must be written.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

30
1. It's not happening
2. Maybe it's happening, but not very much
A. It's happening and it's a good thing
Z. Shut up, racist

Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (o9/HH)

31 I see the Trump Administration is dialing up the FUD too.

Today, the Press Secretary was using over the top Doom & Gloom™ rhetoric about how the families of the military are dropping dead in the streets, lining up at food banks and having banks foreclose on them.

Which is utter bullshit. They got paid last Friday. If there is anyone crowding the food bank lines, its people who are no different than the retard hoarders that loaded pallet loads of toilet paper on the prompting of social media shortage scares.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (a6PrB)

32 Spent a few hours in the ER Wednesday with my husband who thought he had pneumonia.... There were 12 others ... All Hispanic.... I was sitting right next to the check-in so I know the ones that came in all had no insurance because I heard them by way of an interpreter....... Husband is fine... Not pneumonia...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (VE6XX)

33 I'm beginning to think that restoring Medicaid reimbursements for illegals' health care isn't the popular issue Democrats thought it was.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (uya/g)

34 26 Tapper: Here is the provision that shows you want to give illegals healthcare. I understand it's not an accurate depiction.

Jeffries: It's a lie.

Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals.

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"It depends on what your definition of the word is is"

-William Jefferson Clinton

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (kDHiw)

35 Tammany Hall, anyone?

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (tubbA)

36 You can tell when Kaitlyn Collins is lying because she twists the end of her mustache.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (mFWV4)

37 1. It's not happening
2. Maybe it's happening, but not very much
A. It's happening and it's a good thing
Z. Shut up, racist

Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (o9/HH)

5. Why do you care so much?

Posted by: pookysgirl needs some sunshine at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (8C9gT)

38 When Vought has fired his second hundred thousand employees and Democrats want it to stop, Thune should introduce a new CR that funds the government until November that includes language saying, "Democrats must wear clown clothes in Congress."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

"Clown clothes", by definition would be clothes that clowns wear.

So, I'm pretty sure they're always wearing clown clothes.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (zjgNU)

39 25 Me too, but he'd better move quickly AND comprehensively because when the Democrats finally understand what he plans to do, they'll cave on funding immediately.

So he'd better hit every target at once.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (zjgNU)

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Trump and Vought have been talking publicly about this for weeks.

Democrats are putting on a show because they think the narrative and some choice polls filled with response bias will win the day while Vought materially affects Democrat cashflows.

The Democrat campaign is being run by Obama acolytes, and it shows.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

40 20 I just have to say I hate reading bills that refer to other laws and merely say "add 'and' to §xyz paragraph t subsection r...". Hard to get the entire picture...and some of these bills are more than a thousand pages of this shit.

i occasionally have to try to figure out what some java code is up to. never can find the bit that does the actual work; it's all "this extends that, which implements that other thing that extends that thing over there". it's bandaids all the way down.

Posted by: anachronda at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (v3pYe)

41 22 But but but ... what about all the poor illegal Mexican weather girls who won't be able to go to the ER for their boo-boo?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

I can honestly say I've never seen Mexican Weather Girl-equivalents in ER or Urgent Care...and I've been to both more than a few times.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (ynpvh)

42 So, they are "aliens" again?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (/lPRQ)

43 Why these criminals aren't in jail is beyond me.

Posted by: Twist and Shout at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (CWGlO)

44 38 "Clown clothes", by definition would be clothes that clowns wear.

So, I'm pretty sure they're always wearing clown clothes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (zjgNU)

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Touche.

Gotta make that language specific.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

45 Remember the debates when every single of the 92 Democrat candidates raised their hand to the question "would your plan extend health care to illegal immigrants?"

Part of the Democrat dodge is to be very specific when they cry foul: "the ACA does not allow health care to be given to illegals!"

But nobody is arguing that the ACA does. Just that your legislation that you shut down the federal government over does.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (dfIr7)

46
Sorry for being so thick-headed, but I need someone to draw me a picture. No Venn diagrams, please, a flowchart would do.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (4U88C)

47 37 1. It's not happening
2. Maybe it's happening, but not very much
A. It's happening and it's a good thing
Z. Shut up, racist

Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 02:37 PM (o9/HH)

5. Why do you care so much?
Posted by: pookysgirl needs some sunshine at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (8C9gT)

VI. LOOK AT THE NAZI! LOOK AT THE NAZI! SOMEONE SHOOT HIM!

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

48 27 So, what's the emergency that requires renewed emergency funding?

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People are dying because they're not getting NPR weather alerts!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (mFWV4)

49 40 20 I just have to say I hate reading bills that refer to other laws and merely say "add 'and' to §xyz paragraph t subsection r...". Hard to get the entire picture...and some of these bills are more than a thousand pages of this shit.

i occasionally have to try to figure out what some java code is up to. never can find the bit that does the actual work; it's all "this extends that, which implements that other thing that extends that thing over there". it's bandaids all the way down.

Posted by: anachronda at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (v3pYe)

probably with no comments (or useful comments) either.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

50
I like how Everyone uses My Template that I created here at the ol' HQ many years ago.

The Democrats Argument Template
1. It never happened.
2. So what if it happened?
3. Republicans do it, too.
4. Shut up, racist.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (BJUWY)

51 Posted by: pookysgirl needs some sunshine at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (8C9gT)

Hey, PG! How's the fam?

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)

52 I'm all for Medicare for space aliens, who wouldn't be?

Posted by: E T at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (CWGlO)

53 Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals.

Tapper is a psychopath who will say anything for a food pellet.

He can afford to have no morals, ethics nor conscience when he gets paid seven figures to do lie on command.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (PVBkQ)

54 There are also tons of legal aliens getting free healthcare that they shouldn't be eligible for.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (s19xO)

55 Another trick the Democrats use is that the Biden administration gave millions of illegals amnesty after sneaking in, and hence they are not "illegal." So if you give the free health care, its not giving illegals free health care, you lying MAGAt

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (dfIr7)

56 Assume a spherical Guatemalan...

Posted by: toby928 uses the Scientific Method at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (o9/HH)

57 10 They say that Keir Starmer looks like a Muppet, which is true. But I think Mike Johnson kinda looks like a Muppet, too.
Posted by: Bulg

Careful, you'll get pulled out of the customs line at Heathrow if you say the former. The latter, you are allowed to say at will.
- Constable A. Jeehad

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (Dv3i1)

58 Trump and Vought have been talking publicly about this for weeks.

Democrats are putting on a show because they think the narrative and some choice polls filled with response bias will win the day while Vought materially affects Democrat cashflows.

The Democrat campaign is being run by Obama acolytes, and it shows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

Yes they have been talking it up. The Democrats don't think he's serious.

YES, despite everything, they still thing the TACO thing is real.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (zjgNU)

59 isn't the popular issue Democrats thought it was."
But I was told back in the 70s and 80s that poors were literally tossed into the streets by greedy medical types.

Oh no!

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (tubbA)

60 50
I like how Everyone uses My Template that I created here at the ol' HQ many years ago.

The Democrats Argument Template
1. It never happened.
2. So what if it happened?
3. Republicans do it, too.
4. Shut up, racist.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (BJUWY)

It's the sincerest form of flattery.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

61 Medicaid, excuse me.

Posted by: E T at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (CWGlO)

62 Senate roll call just started on the Cloture for the House bill again...should know in about 20 minutes if we're heading to Monday (b/c Thune has said no votes this weekend)...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (tOcjL)

63 36 You can tell when Kaitlyn Collins is lying because she twists the end of her mustache.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 02:38 PM (mFWV4)

That's no mustache

Posted by: Jaime "Dirty" Sanchez at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (pIfcn)

64 56 Assume a spherical Guatemalan...

Posted by: toby928 uses the Scientific Method at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (o9/HH)

I've seen a few...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:42 PM (ynpvh)

65 59 isn't the popular issue Democrats thought it was."
But I was told back in the 70s and 80s that poors were literally tossed into the streets by greedy medical types.

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But only after the greedy doctors sawed off both their legs.

Posted by: Barky O'Shithead at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (mFWV4)

66 58 Trump and Vought have been talking publicly about this for weeks.

Democrats are putting on a show because they think the narrative and some choice polls filled with response bias will win the day while Vought materially affects Democrat cashflows.

The Democrat campaign is being run by Obama acolytes, and it shows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

Yes they have been talking it up. The Democrats don't think he's serious.

YES, despite everything, they still thing the TACO thing is real.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (zjgNU)

Only on Tuesdays.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

67 There are also tons of legal aliens getting free healthcare that they shouldn't be eligible for.

And that's the other side of the coin: the Big Beautiful Bill mandated that people who can work at least part time get less or no more free stuff unless they work. Just like the reduction in the things you can get with SNAP (food stamps).

Apparently Coca Cola is seeing a major drop in sales after you could no longer buy coke with your SNAP card. Probably unrelated though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (dfIr7)

68 New $1 coin coming in 2026 to celebrate our 250th birthday. PDT is on the obverse, and "Fight Fight Fight" on the reverse. US Treasurer Beach says more to come. Lib heads are really going to explode!

Pretty neat:

https://tinyurl.com/2shvsdn4

Posted by: IrishEi at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (3ImbR)

69 I'm all for Medicare for space aliens, who wouldn't be?"

Green Orion bases?

Yes, please.

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (tubbA)

70 People are dying because they're not getting NPR weather alerts!

I've heard that there is a severe tote-bag shortage developing.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

71 But I think Mike Johnson kinda looks like a Muppet, too.

Guy Heily.

Posted by: cuz everyone i hate is a nazi at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (re2W5)

72 It's all so tiresome.

We need to smash the leftist bastards ruthlessly, and relentlessly.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (wtvvX)

73 >>> "It's not happening but it's good that it is."
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:33 PM (UnA8+)

One of the later stages is:

"Andrew C. McCarthy at NRO: Here's the conservative case for why it happening is actually great"

Posted by: banana Dream at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (3uBP9)

74 Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda, says psychologist Tom Stafford.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (NpAcC)

75 Democrats have been shitting the bed and blaming it on the cat for decades.

The Clinton Cartel took the practice to new, unimagined heights.

Posted by: CPO Dice Clay at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (mfT7D)

76 They say that Keir Starmer looks like a Muppet, which is true. But I think Mike Johnson kinda looks like a Muppet, too.
Posted by: Bulg

Careful, you'll get pulled out of the customs line at Heathrow if you say the former. The latter, you are allowed to say at will.
- Constable A. Jeehad
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (Dv3i1)

That's kind of like the old joke about the American telling a Soviet that he knows he's free cause he can say anything he wants about the American President and the Soviet responds that he's just as free because he also can say anything he wants about the American President.

(See also: Dave Chapelle claiming he's more free in Saudi Arabia than in the US.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (zjgNU)

77 I should add that they voted on the Dem bill 1st - Failed 46-52.

So, the R bill is the last one today...at least to stop the shutdown.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (tOcjL)

78 53 He can afford to have no morals, ethics nor conscience when he gets paid seven figures to do lie on command.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (PVBkQ)

This is a realization that has always made me uncomfortable : Morals and Restrictions are only for the poor.

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (UnA8+)

79 74 Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda, says psychologist Tom Stafford.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (NpAcC)

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All I know is that DeSantis' love of Nickelback is what holds him back politically on the national level.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

80 "Flat out" just like her bust line. And a lie just like her stolen race hoax.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (wBaIH)

81 Who cares... TayTay's new album is out !

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (VE6XX)

82 Trump and Vought have been talking publicly about this for weeks.

Democrats are putting on a show because they think the narrative and some choice polls filled with response bias will win the day while Vought materially affects Democrat cashflows.

The Democrat campaign is being run by Obama acolytes, and it shows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

Yes they have been talking it up. The Democrats don't think he's serious.

YES, despite everything, they still thing the TACO thing is real.

They're approaching Stalin before Barbarossa levels of denial.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (Riz8t)

83 There was a pic of a black cat (can't find) where the cat was pissed, so fur was sticking out everywhere...looked like a black tribble with eyes...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

84 Imagine if Democrats advocated for our veterans the way they advocate for illegals.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (pIfcn)

85 Trump and Vought have been talking publicly about this for weeks.

Democrats are putting on a show because they think the narrative and some choice polls filled with response bias will win the day while Vought materially affects Democrat cashflows.

The Democrat campaign is being run by Obama acolytes, and it shows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

Yes they have been talking it up. The Democrats don't think he's serious.

YES, despite everything, they still thing the TACO thing is real.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (zjgNU)
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I think they just ODing on copeium. One of Trump's biggest planks of his entire admin is DEPORT ILLEGALS. He's been getting rave reviews from his base for doing just that. But now he's gonna cave and allow billions of dollars to flow directly to ... the very same illegals he promised to deport??

The Dums will soon realize the potency of the shit they've been smoking and suddenly there will be enough votes in the Senate for the CR.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 02:45 PM (iFTx/)

86 The Democrats Argument Template
1. It never happened.
2. So what if it happened?
3. Republicans do it, too.
4. Shut up, racist.

There's another step that Democrats have shifted too recently "it doesn't happen that much"

Another thought, I think ACE touched on it yesterday: the Democrat bill would give federal funding to states who then use that money to give illegals free health care.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:45 PM (dfIr7)

87 84 Imagine if Democrats advocated for our veterans the way they advocate for illegals.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (pIfcn)

Only if they overwhelmingly voted Dem.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

88 FYI - The Smithsonian museums and the National Zoo will stay open through Saturday, Oct. 11, according to a statement on its website. Then it will close through the duration of the shutdown.

So, later trips in October may or may not have access, but you should be good this weekend and through next Saturday.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 03, 2025 02:45 PM (tOcjL)

89
the part of the Big Beautiful Bill which ends "emergency" payments to hospitals to pay for the health care of illegal aliens.

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Meanwhile, EMATLELAELA requires all hospitals to give ER services to all comers. Unfunded mandate. This is so stupid and needs to be undone. We've been discussing some very common sense solutions for a couple of days now, haven't we? Is anyone on Capitol Hill or the White House doing so?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (4U88C)

90 He can afford to have no morals, ethics nor conscience when he gets paid seven figures to do lie on command.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (PVBkQ)

He feels really bad about it afterwards though, and sometimes has to even take it out on his chauffeur.

Posted by: ... at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (HXXqj)

91 I thought Jon Voight was in Hollywood.
He's in politics now?

Posted by: Kinda clueless at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (XQo4F)

92 49 i occasionally have to try to figure out what some java code is up to. never can find the bit that does the actual work; it's all "this extends that, which implements that other thing that extends that thing over there". it's bandaids all the way down.

Posted by: anachronda at October 03, 2025 02:39 PM (v3pYe)

probably with no comments (or useful comments) either.

and if you ask them questions about it, they decide that it all needs to be refactored as it was apparently unclear; instead of getting answers, it gets turned into a moving target.

Posted by: anachronda at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (v3pYe)

93 82 They're approaching Stalin before Barbarossa levels of denial.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (Riz8t)

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I really think it's a personnel problem.

A bunch of political operatives who grew up in the Obama and post-Obama era where winning the news cycle was the only thing to do in order to win. The reality is that the Dems were always helped by a cowering, scared GOP to help make it work.

And now, those people have invested the infrastructure at almost every level, unable to think of politics as anything other than winning a news cycle, so they see this as an opportunity to...win the news cycle.

While Trump sees it as an opportunity to hurt Democrats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

94 What I've never been able to understand is how, given that the communists constantly screech about "every other country" having "free health care", "free education", yadda-yadda-yadda:

Why aren't these people staying in their Marvelous Lands of Free Shit if they're so awesome?

For that matter, why aren't our home-grown communists moving to one of the Marvelous Lands of Free Shit?

Yeah, I know that the commies are constantly threatening to "move to Canada" (as if we'd somehow regret that), but they never do, now, do they?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 03, 2025 02:46 PM (qpyNK)

95 If what I'm hearing about health care costs tripling already - on Day 2 of the shutdown - there is no way Trump is going to convince people the democrats are responsible for that, nor is he going to be able to convince Americans whose health care coverage has tripled that they are illegal immigrants.

As if irony isn’t already dead, the Hatch Act violation on the DOJ website, which blames Democrats for the shutdown, appears on the page advising DOJ employees they are subject to the Hatch Act.

The last shutdown under Trump's first term ended when ATC stopped showing up for work, almost completely shutting down all flights nationwide. Given the *increased* extremism of Republicans in Trump's second term, I'm predicting it will take something equally as drastic to end this.

The libfascist Democratic Party will absolutely cave within days, once their corporate donors start calling them.

Dreamers (DACA) and Asylum seekers. Trump said they are illegal now. They were eligible for healthcare benefits before the one big beautiful bill. By redefining what an illegal immigrant is, they can stretch the truth to make those statements.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

96 Another thought, I think ACE touched on it yesterday: the Democrat bill would give federal funding to states who then use that money to give illegals free health care.

Lotta buffers in the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (Riz8t)

97 84 Imagine if Democrats advocated for our veterans the way they advocate for illegals.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (pIfcn)

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Sen. Van Hollen would have to have margaritas with all of them

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (mFWV4)

98
People are dying because they're not getting NPR weather alerts!

I've heard that there is a severe tote-bag shortage developing.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

________

*sits and bawls*

How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (tgvbd)

99 I thought Jon Voight was in Hollywood.

"I bought the Jon Voight Car!!!"
--George Costanza

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (dfIr7)

100 Oh and btw ... remember the debates over the BBB here? How some were optimistic about it and others hated it?

Well, it seems at least in this regard -- ending reimbursements for "emergency" care for illegals -- the BBB slew the big fat mutant CHUD.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (iFTx/)

101
I do hope that there are sufficient sombreros ansd 'staches to adorn those lying asshats in the videos. And the the mariachi band has been placed on permanent retainer.

There's a target rich environment, my friends! Target rich!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (1CG4q)

102 Dr. Richard Harambe???

So they didn't kill that gorilla, but sent him to med school instead???

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (77rzZ)

103 74 Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda, says psychologist Tom Stafford.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (NpAcC)

Goebbels knew this and the Democrats and their media mouthpieces have been using this to great effect for decades.

Posted by: Why do you think their talking points are identical at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (TbWk/)

104 14 states, all Democrat BTW, offer some level of free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Where does that money come from?

Posted by: Vengeance at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (rmfPM)

105 Hey, PG! How's the fam?

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)

For the first time in weeks, we actually have nothing on the schedule. No appointments, telehealth, meetings... nothing. Pookette is running around outside and Lil Pooky is toddling around after maybe saying "kitty" this morning.

Posted by: pookysgirl thought it would be "puppy" at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (Wt5PA)

106 Apparently Coca Cola is seeing a major drop in sales after you could no longer buy coke with your SNAP card. "

Yeah. There was a supposed "hispanic" boycott, but it wasn't...

FWIW, both local WallyWorlds no longer have pallets of jarritos and such at the door around the 1st of the month...

(And that was supposed to be babes in the green alien bit)

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (tubbA)

107 95 If what I'm hearing about health care costs tripling already - on Day 2 of the shutdown - there is no way Trump is going to convince people the democrats are responsible for that, nor is he going to be able to convince Americans whose health care coverage has tripled that they are illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by

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The Affordable Care Act is only affordable as long as the government keeps increasing the amount of money they use to subsidize it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

108
The lie they've settled on goes like this: First they claim that we're saying we're ending the Obamacare subsidies for illegal aliens.

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Well, why aren't we? Why aren't we ending the Obamacare subsidies for illegal aliens?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 02:48 PM (4U88C)

109 Dreamers (DACA) and Asylum seekers. Trump said they are illegal now. They were eligible for healthcare benefits before the one big beautiful bill. By redefining what an illegal immigrant is, they can stretch the truth to make those statements.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Asylum seekers = illegal

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (VE6XX)

110 Georgetown, Maryland alone has about 12,000 spherical Guatemalans, mostly all with mustaches. A few have a really huge guitar. Many work at the chicken plant.

Posted by: Cultural Norm at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (oftw2)

111 109 Dreamers (DACA) and Asylum seekers. Trump said they are illegal now. They were eligible for healthcare benefits before the one big beautiful bill. By redefining what an illegal immigrant is, they can stretch the truth to make those statements.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Asylum seekers = illegal
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (VE6XX)

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"Welfare only for Americans," is a great political message that Democrats are actively shitting on.

It's weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

112 "There is nothing in Medicaid, there is nothing in Medicare that permits one undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance. None, zero."

There is also a provision in Emergency Medicaid the prohibits verifying or even asking if one is a citizen or legal resident. Strictly prohibited.

Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (GUOwU)

113 "87 84 Imagine if Democrats advocated for our veterans the way they advocate for illegals.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (pIfcn)

Only if they overwhelmingly voted Dem.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 02:45 PM (ynpvh)"

Blacks overwhelmingly voted dem for decades, and look what they did to them on purpose.

That's not how this works. Dems advocate for things that line their pockets, deliver them power, or impede their enemies. That's it. They don't stick up for any group, as legislators, except themselves.

Posted by: heya at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (PBwDQ)

114 If Democrat policies are so popular, why do they have to lie about them?

If leftism is so popular, why do they have to lie and call themselves everything but "liberal, progressive, or leftist?"

For how many decades did the Democrats enjoy the advantage of never having to explain their lies?

Enter Donald Johntavious Trump.
By simply stating the truth, he is cutting through the Democrats like a scythe.

GOPe: "What is he doing!? You can't do THAT!!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (v/TvA)

115 Supposedly yesterday the CPB officially was without federal funding and they posted a thing about how they are strong and still broadcasted and never going away!

Um, yeah so you didn't need that money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (dfIr7)

116 At Insty:

NEW CIVILITY WATCH: Dem AG Nominee Jay Jones Fantasized About Shooting Former Virginia GOP Speaker: ‘He Receives Both Bullets.’

I sure hope Jason Miyares can capitalize on this.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (Riz8t)

117 Are we talking about enrolling them in Medicaid for non-emergent care? Because any hospital with an ER will have to continue to see them in the ER under EMTALA.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (XvL8K)

118 For the first time in weeks, we actually have nothing on the schedule. No appointments, telehealth, meetings... nothing. Pookette is running around outside and Lil Pooky is toddling around after maybe saying "kitty" this morning.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Great!

My late mother-in-law used to say that you can't wait for your kids to start talking, and then you reach a point where you can't wait for them to shut up.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)

119 "There is also a provision in Emergency Medicaid the prohibits verifying or even asking if one is a citizen or legal resident. Strictly prohibited.
Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (GUOwU)"

And everyone that isn't a sheltered AWFL knows this, too.

Posted by: heya at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (PBwDQ)

120 Flow chart to determine if the government is shut down:

"Is the government still taking money from your paycheck?"
"If yes, the government is not shut down."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (v/TvA)

121 Al Franken is literally a Whack-a-Mole mole: he pops up his misshapen head occasionally, just to get it clobbered with a cluebat.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (wtvvX)

122 Affordable Care is neither.

Posted by: This has been a public service announcement at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (XQo4F)

123 Dem Operative No. 1: "We'll have to change our messaging"

Dem Operative No. 2: "But how will we do that?"

Dem Operative No. 1: "We'll lie."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (mFWV4)

124 Senate roll call just started on the Cloture for the House bill again...should know in about 20 minutes if we're heading to Monday (b/c Thune has said no votes this weekend)...
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Stop voting! We don't need anything from them.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (TN0g+)

125 Strange hill for Democrats to die on. They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess and must also know Trump is going to fully exploit it to advance his own agenda. This seems like a huge strategic blunder, yet they persist, as they say.

I can't figure it out. What is this really all about?

Posted by: troyriser at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (DPeYO)

126 FWIW, both local WallyWorlds no longer have pallets of jarritos and such at the door around the 1st of the month

Jarritos are pretty tasty as sody pop goes

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:52 PM (dfIr7)

127 Tapper: Here is the provision that shows you want to give illegals healthcare. I understand it's not an accurate depiction.

Jeffries: It's a lie.

Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals.

It's a lie, but it's the truth, but it's a lie.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 02:52 PM (0U5gm)

128 And now, those people have invested the infrastructure at almost every level, unable to think of politics as anything other than winning a news cycle, so they see this as an opportunity to...win the news cycle.

While Trump sees it as an opportunity to hurt Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

TV show West Wing is basically Dem political pron where exactly that winning the news cycle no matter how stupid the policies are that are pushed. The movie Speechless (which is pretty good as far as political movies go) shows the same thing. Michael Keaton with the Friendship Ditch spin (lol) and Do You See Timmy monologue about how tv shows and politics has the same goal.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 02:52 PM (WDjG6)

129 Strange hill for Democrats to die on. They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess

I don't think they do... They're believing the MSM on this...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (VE6XX)

130 It's not working for Dems. They're shrieking as loudly as they can, but nobody's listening (except a handful of their true believers)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 02:34 PM (uWKK

What's even more amusing is that even the Commie media propagandists have to say, "Yes, it's a lie, but why does your bill specifically call for giving hospitals money for treating illegal migrants?"

The Donks don't know whether to $h!t or go blind. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of treasonous Minions of Satan.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (pJWtt)

131 n the ER under EMTALA."

E i ee i oh....

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (tubbA)

132 "Illegals don't get Medicaid under any circumstances because that would be illegal, and we all know that illegals never do anything illegal".

That was yesterday's pravda.

Today's pravda is "How could illegals be getting welfare if they're also supposedly taking our jobs? It's illegal to collect welfare and work at the same time, and we all know that illegals never do anything illegal".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (qpyNK)

133 Blind my eyes with fake science
Seal my ears with bullshit
Fill my mouth with food stamps
Befuddled my brain with fentanyl
And tell me lies about
Illegals using Medicare

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (wBaIH)

134 They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess

They are flooding the news and social media with polls claiming that everyone blames Republicans.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (dfIr7)

135 It's a lie, but it's the truth, but it's a lie.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

This sentence is a lie.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (77rzZ)

136 Enter Donald Johntavious Trump.
By simply stating the truth, he is cutting through the Democrats like a scythe.

GOPe: "What is he doing!? You can't do THAT!!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 03, 2025 02:50 PM (v/TvA)

He blew up the kayfabe. Never blow up the kayfabe.

Posted by: Think of politics as pro wrestling at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (TbWk/)

137 Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl

Antisemite Cori Bush is running for Congress again after losing badly last election.

Thug Cori threatened AIPAC by saying, “I’m coming to tear your kingdom down.”

They made sure she lost.

Let’s do it again! Support Rep. Wesley Bell in the Dem primary.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (NpAcC)

138 135 It's a lie, but it's the truth, but it's a lie.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

This sentence is a lie.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (77rzZ)

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Love that I have that cake coming, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

139 It's a lie, but it's the truth, but it's a lie.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

This sentence is a lie.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (77rzZ)

No cake for you.

Posted by: GLaDOS at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (TbWk/)

140 I can't figure it out. What is this really all about?
Posted by: troyriser at October 03, 2025 02:51 PM (DPeYO)

80% of the country doesn't know or doesn't care that there is a shutdown and many of them will find out through propaganda outlets like talk shows and still not give much of a shit.

When you pay attention to politics, you have no sense of what it's like to be a regular person. Regular people just want to eat, sleep, fuck and shit.

Posted by: ... at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (HXXqj)

141 How could illegals be getting welfare if they're also supposedly taking our jobs?

Who have you ever heard claiming "they're taking our jerbs" other than left wing satirists? Anyone? When is the last time anyone has complained about illegals taking their job?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (dfIr7)

142 1 I'm off to nood
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 02:31 PM (jPh2t)
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When 'ettes say that, do we get to watch?

Posted by: Eeyore (Is, Eum) at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (s0JqF)

143 117 Are we talking about enrolling them in Medicaid for non-emergent care? Because any hospital with an ER will have to continue to see them in the ER under EMTALA.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Illegals have been essentially using 24/7 emergency room care instead of the numerous doc in the box urgent cares because they figure emergency room care is free while urgent care is not.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (WDjG6)

144 98
People are dying because they're not getting NPR weather alerts!

I've heard that there is a severe tote-bag shortage developing.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

________

*sits and bawls*

How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (tgvbd)

OUT: Create
IN: Cremate

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 03, 2025 02:54 PM (wtvvX)

145 True.
The Tamarind is great...

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 02:55 PM (tubbA)

146 "There is also a provision in Emergency Medicaid the prohibits verifying or even asking if one is a citizen or legal resident. Strictly prohibited.
Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM

And everyone that isn't a sheltered AWFL knows this, too.
Posted by: heya"

Including the illegals flooding the maternity wards

Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2025 02:55 PM (GUOwU)

147 Republicans: It's not free health care for illegal immigrants.....

Democratic Socialist Marxist Party: It is healthcare for people that here in America thru alternate means other the immigration process.

Posted by: Jackson at October 03, 2025 02:55 PM (X7dyz)

148 How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Sounds like a question for French-adjacent CBD, on the Food Thread.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:56 PM (77rzZ)

149 I'm off to nood

Is nuding a verb now?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:56 PM (dfIr7)

150 I still support the troops.

Posted by: Jake Tapper at October 03, 2025 02:56 PM (re2W5)

151 someone in my office microwaved fish for lunch. we are not a cultured society any more.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM (DJ7uY)

152 The last shutdown under Trump's first term ended when ATC stopped showing up for work, almost completely shutting down all flights nationwide. Given the *increased* extremism of Republicans in Trump's second term, I'm predicting it will take something equally as drastic to end this.
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During my time with the Feds, I quickly learned that airline travel was one of the worst things we (and our corporate counterparts) wasted money on. The people in St. Louis have a new idea? Oh, better put all 5 of you on a plane to go talk with them! Complete waste of time and money, over and over and over again. If the flight schedule cuts in half over walkouts and sickouts, it won't *really* cut into productivity, it'll just save some money for a lot of companies and cost the airlines a bunch.

And the airlines are never profitable to begin with. The whole thing is just a dog and pony show.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM (TN0g+)

153 apper: Here is the provision that shows you want to give illegals healthcare. I understand it's not an accurate depiction.

Jeffries: It's a lie.

Tapper: It's a lie... but it does bring back funding for healthcare for illegals.
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Aaaaaaaaaaabboooott

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM (KOTyL)

154
When you pay attention to politics, you have no sense of what it's like to be a regular person. Regular people just want to eat, sleep, fuck and shit.
Posted by: ...

Pretty much. Reason why I bailed on that world in the 80's--consuming politics 24/7 makes one into an asshole all about muh team and rattling the cup around fat cat donors. Congress critters live a miserable life if they are not consumed by the game because they will lose family, friends, principles, and be a hollow person by the time they get up to Mitch McConnell's or Nanzi Pelosi's time in office.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM (WDjG6)

155 Bill just hit 41 Nays, so it will be dead. Now it's just the margin going to Monday (Current vote is 54-41)...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (tOcjL)

156 But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig
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That's all EMTALA currently requires. Screening for an emergency medical condition or active labor, and if present, necessary treatment.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (XvL8K)

157 someone in my office microwaved fish for lunch. we are not a cultured society any more.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder

There's a Dilbert about that.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)

158
Al Franken is literally a Whack-a-Mole mole: he pops up his misshapen head occasionally, just to get it clobbered with a cluebat.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

The dumbest thing he ever did was to resign.
We would have been reelected in perpetuity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (63Dwl)

159 Another thought, I think ACE touched on it yesterday: the Democrat bill would give federal funding to states who then use that money to give illegals free health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

This is a financial process, called 'integration, little known to outsiders where a dollar is originally labeled a 'federal grant' that comes from taxpayers and is magically transformed into a dollar called 'state aid' with no known provenance. This 'state aid' can then be spent in any haphazard way the nutjobs in the state legislature sees fit.

Rumor has it that there is a Schoolhouse Rock! short that exposed this, but it was supressed by a consortium consisting of the FreeMasons, Illuminati and the Carvel Ice Cream manufacturer.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (Dv3i1)

160 What it amounts to is the Donks want to buy illegal votes with our tax dollars.

See one simple sentence. But the media can't or won't say it.

Posted by: Case at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (9HFDU)

161 Presdent Obama should dew sometnig abouts this Trump disaster. Childrin of coller our dieing every hour since the shitdown.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vt at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (6P8no)

162 Reason why I bailed on that world in the 80's--consuming politics 24/7 makes one into an asshole

What about if you're an asshole to begin with? Does that mean you get ahead more quickly?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (Riz8t)

163 *sits and bawls*

How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (tgvbd)

That was a pretty good CBD impression.

Posted by: Now do some sous vide at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (TbWk/)

164 someone in my office microwaved fish for lunch. we are not a cultured society any more.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM

We used to be a proper country.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (kgE5c)

165 Now keep in mind, this comment is made in the context that calling people "illegal aliens" means you are calling them "illegal" and "No person is illegal".

So recently the media ran a story about an "'Undocumented' Superintendent of Schools". Does the school not keep documents on who is the Superintendent?

Because I guarantee you, if there are people who are "undocumented", it's not a guy collecting nearly $300K from a school board!

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (krQz2)

166 The dumbest thing he ever did was to resign.
We would have been reelected in perpetuity.

Yeah I cannot believe he resigned. He was like 1 week from the story disappearing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:01 PM (dfIr7)

167 Paul A. Szypula @Bubblebathgirl

How does this make sense?

Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 03:01 PM (gKWVE)

168 164 someone in my office microwaved fish for lunch. we are not a cultured society any more.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at October 03, 2025 02:57 PM

We used to be a proper country.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 03, 2025 03:00 PM (kgE5c)

Burn some popcorn in retaliation.

Posted by: i love the smell of burnt popcorn in the morning at October 03, 2025 03:01 PM (re2W5)

169 I did run into one tangible effect of the government shutdown.

I'm gonna have to trek over and see my doc in person next week, rather than handle it over telemedicine (all my 29-year-old conditions are well-controlled, and the doc trusts me to take accurate readings at home and let her know if something goes awry).

Apparently the part of Medicare (a different thing than Medicaid, for the younger morons) that pays for telemedicine is different from the one that pays for in-person visits, and the statute (or whatever) that authorizes telemedicine is affected by the shutdown.

NBD, especially since the doc has an extremely cute Filipina assistant. Although for some reason my blood pressure is always higher when she takes it than it is at home.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 03, 2025 03:01 PM (qpyNK)

170 When is the last time anyone has complained about illegals taking their job?
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On Numenor, where the locals we're worried about the arrival of one elf to thwir sheltered isle. It was broadcast on Amazon Prime.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:02 PM (Dv3i1)

171 Dreamers (DACA) and Asylum seekers. Trump said they are illegal now. They were eligible for healthcare benefits before the one big beautiful bill. By redefining what an illegal immigrant is, they can stretch the truth to make those statements.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Asylum seekers = illegal
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (VE6XX)

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"Welfare only for Americans," is a great political message that Democrats are actively shitting on.

It's weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (GBKbO)
_

Fuck the "dreamers" -- they can dream about whatever they want from whatever shithole they came from.

Fuck "asylum" seekers -- they can seek asylum in any one of the 75 countries they crossed before getting here.

Fuck. Them. All. My level of sympathy for these parasitic degenerates is below zero. If Trump proposed a bill that they should all be ground up into paste to be fed to livestock, I would ... think about it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

172 I can't figure it out. What is this really all about?
Posted by: troyriser

Desperation. None of their messages were resonating and gimmedats are a critical part of the Dem faction including illegals. Having them self deport by cutting off bennies and blue state magnets policies like free health care through 'non-profit' hospital care which bills the fed gov for it directly or indirectly is a dagger to the heart of the blue model. Less clients, less money for grifting, less votes, less political power, etc.

Essentially the Dems have used gubmint money as leverage to get political power. GOPe uses that money to get filthy rich which some Dems do as well. Trump is changing the game to the dismay of the Mitch McConnells, Nanzi Pelosi's, and the political animals like Nadler.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:02 PM (WDjG6)

173 >>>When you point that out, they start lying and claiming that you're saying they want Obamacare for illegals, even though you're specifically saying they want "emergency" Medicaid reimbursements for illegal aliens.

I don't think it matters.

People know that they want tax money spent on illegals to the detriment of American citizens. And the left and their agit prop mouthpieces have no credibility with anyone but true believers, which is a shrinking minority.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 03, 2025 03:02 PM (i24o9)

174 The dumbest thing he ever did was to resign.
We would have been reelected in perpetuity.

Yeah I cannot believe he resigned. He was like 1 week from the story disappearing.
------

He stopped believing he was good enough, and smart enough...

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (TN0g+)

175 53 He can afford to have no morals, ethics nor conscience when he gets paid seven figures to do lie on command.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 02:41 PM (PVBkQ)

This is a realization that has always made me uncomfortable : Morals and Restrictions are only for the poor.
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (UnA8+)

No, you're looking at it a bit incorrectly. To some rich people, money and/or obtaining even more money is more important than living a moral life.

There's a reason why Jesus taught that you can serve either Mammon or God, not both.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (pJWtt)

176 How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Between the legs.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (r4LUb)

177
They are flooding the news and social media with polls claiming that everyone blames Republicans.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (dfIr7)

They really have zero principles except they do have a huge lust for power and Rules for Radicals was correct that ridicule is mans most powerful weapon. Keep those memes coming people.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (jPh2t)

178 The democrats are, were and always will be pure shit.

Yet, stupid, greedy, selfish people still vote for them.

Posted by: Free Shit Army at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (R/m4+)

179 171 Fuck the "dreamers" -- they can dream about whatever they want from whatever shithole they came from.

Fuck "asylum" seekers -- they can seek asylum in any one of the 75 countries they crossed before getting here.

Fuck. Them. All. My level of sympathy for these parasitic degenerates is below zero. If Trump proposed a bill that they should all be ground up into paste to be fed to livestock, I would ... think about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

========

None of these people are legally eligible to vote.

Americans are eligible to vote.

Democrats are going out of their way, again, to prefer those who aren't even supposed to be able to vote over those who can.

Almost like they don't think appealing to voters matters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

180 This sentence is a lie.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:53 PM (77rzZ)
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That is true, in that it is a "false sentence."

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:04 PM (krQz2)

181 What about if you're an asshole to begin with? Does that mean you get ahead more quickly?
Posted by: Archimedes
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Yes, being without a conscience is an advantage in the political world. To get ahead, you have to make deals with the devil all the time which eventually hollows one out leaving only base motives to stay there.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:04 PM (WDjG6)

182 Yet, stupid, greedy, selfish people still vote for them.
Posted by: Free Shit Army
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Until many of them are offered a better deal. They are never quite 'bought' but rented instead.

That is why a full employment economy without cheap labor or grifting subsidies like Green Nude Eel is another existential threat to Dems.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

183 Al Franken is literally a Whack-a-Mole mole: he pops up his misshapen head occasionally, just to get it clobbered with a cluebat.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

The dumbest thing he ever did was to resign.
We would have been reelected in perpetuity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (63Dwl)
____

Different times. The Dums were ready to sacrifice him because at that time they didn't realize MeToo would backfire and the vast majority of pervs snared in the net would be Democraps.

Plus: that picture. Wow. It may really have been that this fat slob never actually toucher her. But that pic was creepy as fuck. He was dead man walking.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (iFTx/)

184 >>he Affordable Care Act is only affordable as long as the government keeps increasing the amount of money they use to subsidize it.

But that Website, tho...

Cutting Fuckin' Edge.

Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (+2Z9P)

185 How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Between the legs.

*sits back, waits for the Paolo jokes to come rolling in*

Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (Riz8t)

186 184 >>he Affordable Care Act is only affordable as long as the government keeps increasing the amount of money they use to subsidize it.

But that Website, tho...

Cutting Fuckin' Edge.
Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (+2Z9P)

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Space age, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

187 This is a realization that has always made me uncomfortable : Morals and Restrictions are only for the poor.
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 02:44 PM (UnA8+)

No, you're looking at it a bit incorrectly. To some rich people, money and/or obtaining even more money is more important than living a moral life.

There's a reason why Jesus taught that you can serve either Mammon or God, not both.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 03, 2025 03:03 PM (pJWtt)

From a pragmatic point of view he's absolutely correct. If you're rich and/or connected enough you can get away with literal and metaphorical murder. If not, failure to self-regulate will get you very harshly punished (unless you're a member of a favored identity group but that's another issue). How much justice can you afford is a legitimate question.

Posted by: remove the moralizing and there's no real debate there at October 03, 2025 03:07 PM (TbWk/)

188 The Obamacare Website Rollout was right up there with Obama's Weight-Lifting, Girl-Bike Riding and Hoops Prowess.

Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:07 PM (+2Z9P)

189 Paul A. Szypula @Bubblebathgirl

How does this make sense?
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 03:01 PM (gKWVE)
*******
I've wondered that too.
It is what it is.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 03:07 PM (NpAcC)

190 People have been posting old tape of old Dems previously saying mean things about "illegal immigrants", like from the 90s.

I think people convinced by this have forgotten that in the 80s, the Dems scammed Reagan into an amnesty on the promise to "fix immigration" and never did that part.

Thus, I think it is more reasonable to say that even their statements against border-jumping was to propagate the idea that "Our system is broken" and needs a fix, to get an amnesty in return.

Only, to again, do nothing to fix it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (krQz2)

191 > But that Website, tho...

Cutting Fuckin' Edge.
Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (+2Z9P)

That would be the one that was "designed" by the company for which Mooch's former college roommate works? The one that has a long history of failed IT projects, with no notable successes?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (qpyNK)

192 I posted earlier this week that this crap with funding health care for illegals goes all the way back to the Plyler decision in 1982. Jimmy Carter forwarded that case as he was walking out the door in December of 1980 and it took until 1982 to get through to the Supreme Court.

Turns out Lizzy Warren backed me up after I posted. She subtlety references 'the coverage of immigrant health care goes back to the Reagan administration' as if he initiated it.

Posted by: DanMan at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (8uzBS)

193 No, you're looking at it a bit incorrectly. To some rich people, money and/or obtaining even more money is more important than living a moral life.

There's a reason why Jesus taught that you can serve either Mammon or God, not both.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

I think it goes for poor people too--love for money is one of those barriers to a relationship with Christ and the Good Book is replete with examples where not binding the kine that threshes one's grain or leaving aside some wheat for harvest for the widows and poor is good.

Love of money, rather than the lack or abundance of it, is the barrier if you love money more than Christ.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

194 191 > But that Website, tho...

Cutting Fuckin' Edge.
Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (+2Z9P)

That would be the one that was "designed" by the company for which Mooch's former college roommate works? The one that has a long history of failed IT projects, with no notable successes?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (qpyNK)

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Didn't it leak data like a pipe for months?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

195 But that Website, tho...

Cutting Fuckin' Edge.
Posted by: garrett at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (+2Z9P)

That would be the one that was "designed" by the company for which Mooch's former college roommate works? The one that has a long history of failed IT projects, with no notable successes?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

I worked for a company that did some of the state ACA websites. It didn't go well. Some states dropped us, and then there was litigation involved.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (77rzZ)

196 To some rich people, money and/or obtaining even more money is more important than living a moral life.

To quote a gangster:
"In our life its not how long you live but how well you live your life"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (dfIr7)

197 156 But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig
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That's all EMTALA currently requires. Screening for an emergency medical condition or active labor, and if present, necessary treatment.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (XvL8K)

Alex the Chick has a good thread on this on X; it does put hospitals in a tough spot, given current EMTALA law. (requiring them to treat all patients requesting emergency care)
The only real answer is to step up deportations to an even greater level than is currently being done; the less illegals here, the smaller the problem becomes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (uWKK8)

198 Thus, I think it is more reasonable to say that even their statements against border-jumping was to propagate the idea that "Our system is broken" and needs a fix, to get an amnesty in return.

Only, to again, do nothing to fix it.
Posted by: Axeman
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There is no truth within Democrats any more than their Father of Lies Stan. The only time they tell the truth is when compelled to do so or accidentally in service to some darker task. But yet by their fruits, ye shall know them.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (WDjG6)

199 Can't even read Hakim Jeffries without seeing a mustache a Sombrero and hearing mariachi music.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (+E2T+)

200 I haven't been around, was this mentioned earlier?

BREAKING: Kash Patel's FBI Cuts All Ties to Southern Poverty Law Center
https://shorturl.at/IpfIZ
Daily Caller

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (ULPxl)

201 197 Alex the Chick has a good thread on this on X; it does put hospitals in a tough spot, given current EMTALA law. (requiring them to treat all patients requesting emergency care)
The only real answer is to step up deportations to an even greater level than is currently being done; the less illegals here, the smaller the problem becomes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (uWKK

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Hire some guys to check immigration status just outside the Hospital grounds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

202 The Obamacare Website Rollout was right up there with Obama's Weight-Lifting, Girl-Bike Riding and Hoops Prowess.
Posted by: garrett

But his bracketology was awesome!

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

203 202 The Obamacare Website Rollout was right up there with Obama's Weight-Lifting, Girl-Bike Riding and Hoops Prowess.
Posted by: garrett

But his bracketology was awesome!
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

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I seem to remember that his brackets sucked every single year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

204
Guys named Stan have reason to be ticked off at autocorrect.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 03, 2025 03:12 PM (tgvbd)

205 But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig
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See, I don't know about this. I don't want border-jumpers in my country, free and clear, but I'd rather not be a country with them dying in our streets, either.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:12 PM (krQz2)

206 Alex the Chick has a good thread on this on X; it does put hospitals in a tough spot,
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I'm guessing this is the reason Sen Hawley is working on a compromise with the Dems on this.

Maybe instead add more ICE agent patrols to hospitals. That's kinda where I'm at right now.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (Dv3i1)

207 Didn't it leak data like a pipe for months?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

It leaked data like my ass leaks semen after a good rogering by Mike.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Kenyan at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (R/m4+)

208 The only real answer is to step up deportations to an even greater level than is currently being done; the less illegals here, the smaller the problem becomes.

Right, because the funding isn't only for illegals, its for anyone who does not pay (or cannot pay). So poor citizens who cannot pay also get their bills offset by federal reimbursement with that law.

But honestly I have no pity or sympathy for hospitals because they are VERY lucrative operations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (dfIr7)

209 Has ICE considered staking out hospital ERs?

Posted by: mr tmz at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (rJ48h)

210 See, I don't know about this. I don't want border-jumpers in my country, free and clear, but I'd rather not be a country with them dying in our streets, either.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:12 PM (krQz2)

They can die in the streets of their home country.

Posted by: Easy peasy, arroz y queso at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (TbWk/)

211 But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig
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That's all EMTALA currently requires. Screening for an emergency medical condition or active labor, and if present, necessary treatment.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2025 02:58 PM (XvL8K)

Alex the Chick has a good thread on this on X; it does put hospitals in a tough spot, given current EMTALA law. (requiring them to treat all patients requesting emergency care)
The only real answer is to step up deportations to an even greater level than is currently being done; the less illegals here, the smaller the problem becomes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:10 PM (uWKK

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I think the end result is Hospitals will start refusing to treat illegals for non-emergency care -- which 90% of the current treatments are. Go to any ER and it'll be filled with illegals looking for what amounts to routine or non-emergency care. That will end.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

212 Hire some guys to check immigration status just outside the Hospital grounds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

Like I said earlier I was at an ER Wednesday with my husband and if ICE had gone in they could have arrested at least 12.. Of course I'm in NorCal and "we" are a Sanctuary State/County/ City

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (VE6XX)

213 That's all EMTALA currently requires. Screening for an emergency medical condition or active labor, and if present, necessary treatment.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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They are not doing it. In part, because the government is reimbursing them whether via teaching hospital or via Medicaid billing fraud where states are choosing to cover illegals and using the old provider tax scam to do it spreading the cost over the rest of us.

In fact, there is serious doubt whether many of these 'non profits' are actually doing what they need to be doing regarding charity care. That is a separate matter but basically those with insurance and taxpayers which are generally the same class are paying for the whole coverage for illegals and others ineligible for being covered for specific procedures.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM (WDjG6)

214 Simple question to ask. When an illegal alien goes to the hospital, how are the services paid for? Spin that one. Teenagers who put a dent in Daddy's car are better liars.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM (AG3iD)

215 See, I don't know about this. I don't want border-jumpers in my country, free and clear, but I'd rather not be a country with them dying in our streets, either.

Federal law requires that everyone in need of emergency care gets it. But they don't have to treat your headache or sniffles in the emergency room.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM (dfIr7)

216 212 Hire some guys to check immigration status just outside the Hospital grounds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

Like I said earlier I was at an ER Wednesday with my husband and if ICE had gone in they could have arrested at least 12.. Of course I'm in NorCal and "we" are a Sanctuary State/County/ City
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (VE6XX)

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*looks at phone in horror*
"Hubby...how do you say ICE is coming in Spanish? I'm so worried about the people here!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

217 >>> 212 Hire some guys to check immigration status just outside the Hospital grounds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

Like I said earlier I was at an ER Wednesday with my husband and if ICE had gone in they could have arrested at least 12.. Of course I'm in NorCal and "we" are a Sanctuary State/County/ City
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:13 PM (VE6XX)

See, *that* is when you want to use the "IceBlock" app...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (ULPxl)

218 Fox News reporting on the Obamacare COVID subsidies, which is another issue;

“ Republicans largely agree it is an issue that should be dealt with, but they also want reforms in the program rather than the blanket, permanent extension that Democrats suggested in their counter-proposal.”

There’s your Republican Party. Always ready to negotiate your money away

Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (7ydyJ)

219 129 Strange hill for Democrats to die on. They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess

I don't think they do... They're believing the MSM on this...
Posted by: It's me donna

As others have mentioned, at least in their social media echo chambers, the Dems think they're winning with the public. We'll see what the next NPC talking points patch brings. The far Lefties are convinced Schumer is a cuck and will sellout/fold any minute.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (JCZqz)

220 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

221 Like I said earlier I was at an ER Wednesday with my husband and if ICE had gone in they could have arrested at least 12.. Of course I'm in NorCal and "we" are a Sanctuary State/County/ City
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Sounds like hospitals in sanctuary states will be hit harder than the rest. I can live with this.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:16 PM (Dv3i1)

222 220 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

Texas tried suing Mexico but it went nowhere....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:16 PM (VE6XX)

223 219 129 Strange hill for Democrats to die on. They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess

I don't think they do... They're believing the MSM on this...
Posted by: It's me donna

As others have mentioned, at least in their social media echo chambers, the Dems think they're winning with the public. We'll see what the next NPC talking points patch brings. The far Lefties are convinced Schumer is a cuck and will sellout/fold any minute.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (JCZqz)

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Shutdowns are inside baseball for 90% of the public. Slightly less than most political shit which is normally inside baseball for 99% of the public.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

224 205 But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig

What Alex pointed out is what is happening already; since hospitals all *want* to be reimbursed, all ER staff is pushed - er, "strongly encouraged" - to find some Emergency diagnosis enabling the hospital to get its financial reward. And so the woman who comes in for a hangnail will receive care for that, and a $10,000 bill for diagnostics for a phantom heart murmur that might have made her feel dizzy once.

And the massive overtreatment raises all the costs up even more for the rest of us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (uWKK8)

225 Almost like they don't think appealing to voters matters."

Who wants to tell him that counting votes is the only thing that matters...

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (tubbA)

226 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)
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Better than the current system but (i) the home countries will never pay and (ii) I want these scumbags back to their home countries. I don't want them here at all, getting great medical care that they ain't paying for.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (iFTx/)

227 I don't think they do... They're believing the MSM on this...
Posted by: It's me donna

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I don't think MSM believes MSM on this. They're pushing it because it's the Dem-media.

And Rules 1-3 are: Never give up the con.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (krQz2)

228
But hospitals will no longer be able to push the bills for treating those illegals to teh government. Thus, expect to see triage applied and non emergency care illegals kicked out the doors of facilities.

Posted by: whig

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Thank you, a tiny crack of clarity. I really didn't know what effect this would have on hospital policies. I mean, it should have had some effect, but I don't expect reasonable behavior from anyone with any authority to say No to our little brown brothers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (4U88C)

229 >>> 222 220 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

Texas tried suing Mexico but it went nowhere....
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:16 PM (VE6XX)

The commenter who proposed this (not me) also said if the home country refuses to pay, then we bump up their tariffs.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (ULPxl)

230 Magnum P.M.S.

Ace, you've got too much talent for just one man. Are you in reality a consortium?

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (mADJX)

231 226 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)
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Better than the current system but (i) the home countries will never pay and (ii) I want these scumbags back to their home countries. I don't want them here at all, getting great medical care that they ain't paying for.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (iFTx/)

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There is nothing preventing a hospital admin from putting up a sign that says, "We will treat any illness or injury as required by law, but we also check legal status and will call DHS for anyone not legally authorized to be here. Once made whole by us, you will go home."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

232 See, I don't know about this. I don't want border-jumpers in my country, free and clear, but I'd rather not be a country with them dying in our streets, either.
Posted by: Axeman

As I mentioned, you triage the individuals--those who do not present emergency symptoms get kicked out. About the best one can do otherwise, we end up with American citizens dying because of untimely medicare care (strokes for example require treatment within the first 60 minutes of symptoms aka Golden Hour) by asshole illegals wanting free medical care for sniffles at their convenience. They can pay at Urgent Clinics and doc in the boxes during regular business hours for that shit instead of free riding on the system.

One thing you may want to consider, if you have a true medical emergency, go by ambulance as you bypass the crowds at the ERs.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (WDjG6)

233 222 220 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

Texas tried suing Mexico but it went nowhere....
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:16 PM (VE6XX)

I heard that Mexico offered to pay it all back with a few cases of Fentanyl..

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (uWKK8)

234 Shutdowns are inside baseball for 90% of the public. Slightly less than most political shit which is normally inside baseball for 99% of the public.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Which is why Obama wanted to bring it to the public, by blocking the view of Mt. Rushmore and crap like that.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (krQz2)

235 The far Lefties are convinced Schumer is a cuck and will sellout/fold any minute.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (JCZqz)

This is part of my point about seizing this to accomplish other ends and start firing as many fools as possible. Then if Schumer DOES buckle like a belt we have icing for our cake.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (zZu0s)

236 Or sauce for our goose.

Could not decide on the metaphor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (zZu0s)

237 how are the services paid for? "

Well, you see... (drifts off into legalese coma)

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (tubbA)

238 234 Shutdowns are inside baseball for 90% of the public. Slightly less than most political shit which is normally inside baseball for 99% of the public.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Which is why Obama wanted to bring it to the public, by blocking the view of Mt. Rushmore and crap like that.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (krQz2)

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Yup.

Winning by narrative.

Democrats are trying it now, but they don't control what gets shut down. They've handed the keys to the kingdom to Russ Vought, primary author of Project 2025.

Because they are retarded.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

239 If you don’t have blood spurting, a bone sticking out, not breathing, heart rate bonkers or half your face drooping and you aren’t a citizen,

It’s not an emergency.

If you do, the ER should stabilize you and set your ass on a plane back to where you came from.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (WhMxF)

240 Ace, you've got too much talent for just one man. Are you in reality a consortium?
Posted by: Paco

Yes. It's composed of Ace, Chuy, and Lamont the Big Dummy.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (77rzZ)

241 Yeah the federal government can help with collection from other nations like "you get less aid from us by this amount if you don't pay" and "we will collect this in fees from money sent back home by Juan and Angelita" etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:20 PM (dfIr7)

242 Final vote 54-44 - Vote failed and Senate is adjourned (not sure which 2 didn't vote, but I don't think anyone changed their vote - and the same 2 missed the D bill vote, so I think they aren't at the Senate today)...

So, shutdown til Monday at the earliest...

Dems want to see if SNL and weekend Dem talk shows can spin this for them before giving in...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 03, 2025 03:20 PM (tOcjL)

243 It has been pointed out elsewhere that if if wasn't for EMTALA reimbursement payments from the Fed Gov, California's entire health care system would be bankrupt.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:20 PM (uWKK8)

244 Which is why Obama wanted to bring it to the public, by blocking the view of Mt. Rushmore and crap like that.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (krQz2)

Yeah, make them hurt. It is kind of hilarious how cynical and jaded the dems are. If personally executing by knife 100 toddlers gave them power, Schumer would say you did not even have to sharpen it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

245 229 Texas tried suing Mexico but it went nowhere....
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:16 PM (VE6XX)

The commenter who proposed this (not me) also said if the home country refuses to pay, then we bump up their tariffs. - Helena Handbasket

I was thinking along the same lines. Tariffs, a "health care" tax on imports, etc.

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (mADJX)

246 Thank you, a tiny crack of clarity. I really didn't know what effect this would have on hospital policies. I mean, it should have had some effect, but I don't expect reasonable behavior from anyone with any authority to say No to our little brown brothers.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Plenty of news coverage on the down low about the effect illegals are having on the emergency room system and actually causing deaths of citizens/legal residents due to the clogging ERs for 'free care'.

Many hospitals, as a result, have shut emergency rooms altogether which eliminates EMTALA altogether and thus no illegals can get in the door without insurance.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (WDjG6)

247 If we did let illegals just die in the streets because we wouldn't pay for their ER healthcare, would that amount to (i) more illegals dying than American citizens that illegals have killed or (ii) less illegals dying than Americans they killed?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

248 I was thinking along the same lines. Tariffs, a "health care" tax on imports, etc.
Posted by: Paco
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Go direct, tax remittances.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (WDjG6)

249 you triage the individuals--those who do not present emergency symptoms get kicked out"

"Here's how to make sure you get seen in the ER, or "Consejos para que te atiendan en la sala de emergencias (ER)"

Heh

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (tubbA)

250 235 This is part of my point about seizing this to accomplish other ends and start firing as many fools as possible. Then if Schumer DOES buckle like a belt we have icing for our cake.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (zZu0s)

========

The Antideficiency Act gives Trump full leeway on how to keep the books balanced, but money has to run out first. So, a process is being followed.

And now, the Senate has bought Vought three more days. $17.5 billion per day that goes out the door without further appropriation for money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (GBKbO)

251 If you do, the ER should stabilize you and set your ass on a plane back to where you came from.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (WhMxF)

I hate emergency rooms. I had to go to one ONCE for a kidney stone and that was the most excruciating 2 hour wait I have had thus far.

I always go to immediate care because I have a hard time finding a doctor who is nkt a test ordering psychopath.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (zZu0s)

252 >>> 243 It has been pointed out elsewhere that if if wasn't for EMTALA reimbursement payments from the Fed Gov, California's entire health care system would be bankrupt.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:20 PM (uWKK

Oh no!

(with apologies to all the Morons in CA being used as Hostage Puppies by Newscum et al)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ULPxl)

253 With that failed vote, Trump needs to let the cuts begin. For Pete’s sake, even Joni Ernst has identified over $2T in cuts. Let’s go.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (7ydyJ)

254 240 Ace, you've got too much talent for just one man. Are you in reality a consortium?
Posted by: Paco

Yes. It's composed of Ace, Chuy, and Lamont the Big Dummy.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (77rzZ)

So sorta like Larry, Daryl and Daryl...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

255 240 Yes. It's composed of Ace, Chuy, and Lamont the Big Dummy. - Bulg

Aha! And I thought they were just aliases!

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:22 PM (mADJX)

256 220 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

I like this too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (CueAq)

257 There is nothing preventing a hospital admin from putting up a sign that says, "We will treat any illness or injury as required by law, but we also check legal status and will call DHS for anyone not legally authorized to be here. Once made whole by us, you will go home."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Sanctuary states and localities might do so. Dunno if they could. Would guarantee lawsuits and bad PR for that hospital though.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (WDjG6)

258 Many hospitals, as a result, have shut emergency rooms altogether"

And small rural ones closed. Funny about that unfunded mandate, no?

Posted by: man at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (tubbA)

259 As I mentioned, you triage the individuals--those who do not present emergency symptoms get kicked out.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:18 PM (WDjG6)
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Oh, I can agree with that. I'm just suggesting what I consider reasonable limits on dis-treatment of border-jumpers.

Sometimes the extreme limits need to be remembered as benchmarks to realize that it's a balancing act of tradeoffs, not a crusade or surrender.

When I say I don't want that to be my country, it doesn't automatically suggest the person I'm saying that to does--at least when I say something like that.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (krQz2)

260 248 Go direct, tax remittances. - whig

Perfecto!

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (mADJX)

261 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

I like this too.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (CueAq)

Great idea but they'll never pay up.

Posted by: Seriously. Never. at October 03, 2025 03:24 PM (TbWk/)

262 How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???

Between the legs.

*sits back, waits for the Paolo jokes to come rolling in*
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2025 03:06 PM (Riz8t)

The Paolo does not carry French Bread loaf.

Also The Paolo does not let the meat loaf.

Posted by: The Paolo at October 03, 2025 03:24 PM (47/pr)

263 Aha! And I thought they were just aliases!
Posted by: Paco

Why would you think that? Nobody here uses aliases.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:24 PM (77rzZ)

264 Fox News reporting on the Obamacare COVID subsidies, which is another issue;
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There is NOTHING related to "COVID" that is an issue--that horse has been beaten to death and did a thousand deaths. "COVID" is done. Its a flu, that's all it ever was. NOT another damn dime of Federal money should be attached to ANYTHING that references "COVID".

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:24 PM (TN0g+)

265 257 There is nothing preventing a hospital admin from putting up a sign that says, "We will treat any illness or injury as required by law, but we also check legal status and will call DHS for anyone not legally authorized to be here. Once made whole by us, you will go home."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Sanctuary states and localities might do so. Dunno if they could. Would guarantee lawsuits and bad PR for that hospital though.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (WDjG6)

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"We have the fastest lines in the whole state."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

266 If we did let illegals just die in the streets because we wouldn't pay for their ER healthcare, would that amount to (i) more illegals dying than American citizens that illegals have killed or (ii) less illegals dying than Americans they killed?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

Set a quota. democrats love quotas. I would accept a few thousand dead illegal invaders every year as a warning to other illegal invaders to stay away! Stay Away!

Posted by: Deadfirmative Action at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (R/m4+)

267 If we put an ICE agent at the door of every emergency room, they would suddenly become much less crowded.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (0U5gm)

268 I'ts not a lie lie.

Posted by: Killer McMurderer at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (vFG9F)

269 261 I still like the idea someone raised here a few days ago where hospitals charge home countries of illegals for their health care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:15 PM (dfIr7)

I like this too.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (CueAq)

Great idea but they'll never pay up.
Posted by: Seriously. Never.

Deduct it from the money we already give them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (9HjID)

270 Many hospitals, as a result, have shut emergency rooms altogether

LOL bullcrap

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:26 PM (dfIr7)

271 Stopped at my parents, my dad isn't doing well with a back problem from a fall back in August

Posted by: Skip at October 03, 2025 03:26 PM (XxF3T)

272 Hope he gets to doing better, skip.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:26 PM (zZu0s)

273 So when Nero Newscum states that he is giving medicaid to criminal illegal invaders he is not saying he wants to give free healthcare to criminal illegal invaders?

I get that right?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (17s+e)

274 I always go to immediate care because I have a hard time finding a doctor who is nkt a test ordering psychopath.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Saw some such study indicating just that, citizens with insurance and even some that don't have it are now using Urgent Care instead of ERs. The issue though is sometimes minutes matter and Urgent Care facilities do not have the capabilities of ERs if the person misdiagnoses their problem and the severity of the situation.

My state has a certificate of need requirement for new hospitals, etc. and that is part of the evaluations now. Local government is fighting over the 'need' for a new hospital in a specific location.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (WDjG6)

275
50's Boobs

Why don't they make boobs like this, anymore?

They changed. How did this happen?

https://is.gd/oypiar

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (hlQsS)

276 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX)

277 I was tdy in NY. It’s not just the ER’s. They’ve overrun the entire healthcare system. We had people trying to get CT’s and other types of care. Illegal immigrants are taking over those pipelines as well. Formerly great hospitals like Mt Sinai are turning into third world public clinics.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (7ydyJ)

278 How am I going to carry my loaf of French bread???
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Sounds like a question for French-adjacent CBD, on the Food Thread.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 02:56 PM (77rzZ)

With a white napkin tied at the end of it like the rest of the frogs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (i24o9)

279 So, shutdown til Monday at the earliest...

Dems want to see if SNL and weekend Dem talk shows can spin this for them before giving in..
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The next vote should be set for January 5th, 2026.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (TN0g+)

280 my dad isn't doing well with a back problem from a fall back in August

Sorry to hear that, God be with your folks. One of the less pleasant things about getting old is how you don't spring back like you used to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (dfIr7)

281 I argue that the founders thought "self-government" was so clearly the purpose of a republic that "self-government" as a goal or value is almost unstated in founding documents.

This is a problem when you get the Holy Writ of Liberty guys citing the First Amendment.

You have to reflect on it like the Federalists reacted to the BoR: We never gave the government power over speech, in their mind--so that's A Duh to the Federalists. But as things changed, the explicit limitation on the government in that area has become perhaps the only refuge from government assuming those powers. And it still didn't stop people being persecuted under Wilson's--or any--Sedition Act.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (krQz2)

282 251 If you do, the ER should stabilize you and set your ass on a plane back to where you came from.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 03, 2025 03:19 PM (WhMxF)

I hate emergency rooms. I had to go to one ONCE for a kidney stone and that was the most excruciating 2 hour wait I have had thus far.

I always go to immediate care because I have a hard time finding a doctor who is nkt a test ordering psychopath.

I was in ER 4 TIMES last year alone. The wait isn't fun. Took the younger one to ER (Children's Hospital) as recommended by Urgent Care for fever (turns out he had COVID), after waiting for about 8 HOURS, finally left; We were 4th up, but kept being bypassed by others.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:28 PM (ynpvh)

283 >> Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX

Added to the prayer chain. May God be with him.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2025 03:28 PM (7ydyJ)

284
Were 50's cars modeled after 50's boobs, or the other way around?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:28 PM (MhBev)

285 Touche.

Gotta make that language specific.

"Red, spheroidal prosthetic nose no less than 1.5 inches in diameter to be worn at all times when Congress is in session."

Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (3nLb4)

286 Federal law requires that everyone in need of emergency care gets it. But they don't have to treat your headache or sniffles in the emergency room.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM (dfIr7)

And no, getting a prescription for boner pills is NOT an emergency.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (BHSfo)

287 Mount Sinai-Beth Israel hospital closes, emergency room shut down Headline from New York.

NIH study
"Between 1998 and 2008, the number of hospital-based emergency departments (EDs) in the United States declined, while the number of ED visits increased, particularly visits by publicly-insured and uninsured patients. Little is known about the hospital, community, and market factors associated with ED closures. Federal law requiring EDs to treat all in need regardless of a patient’s ability to pay may make EDs more vulnerable to the market forces that govern US health care."

You are wrong. You might be an author but I used to do policy studies for pay.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (WDjG6)

288 There is nothing preventing a hospital admin from putting up a sign that says, "We will treat any illness or injury as required by law, but we also check legal status and will call DHS for anyone not legally authorized to be here. Once made whole by us, you will go home."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Sanctuary states and localities might do so. Dunno if they could. Would guarantee lawsuits and bad PR for that hospital though.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:23 PM (WDjG6)

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"We have the fastest lines in the whole state."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Remember also: the hospitals are in on this. They love funding for illegals because it's a big ka-ching to them. What better patients than desperate illegals used to horrible care in their home country that are highly unlikely to ask questions or sue for malpractice?

Big Pharma loves it too. I'm sure they pocket nice profits from pharma given to illegals in ERs.

This is all yet another scam to steal taxpayer money and give it to Democrap donors and constituents.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

289 276 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX)

Prayers sent.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (CueAq)

290 285 Touche.

Gotta make that language specific.

"Red, spheroidal prosthetic nose no less than 1.5 inches in diameter to be worn at all times when Congress is in session."
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (3nLb4)

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And people wonder why laws are wordy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

291 276 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX)

Of course, Donna.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (zZu0s)

292 We behedds from Senater D ande d s that's 50,000 childrin of cloer has died because of the Trump death camp government shuts dowm

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vt at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (6P8no)

293 Sounds to me like if you go to the hospital, you definitely have no health for which to care.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (EL2O4)

294 275
50's Boobs

Why don't they make boobs like this, anymore?

They changed. How did this happen?

https://is.gd/oypiar

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (hlQsS)

Brian Keith was gay.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (ynpvh)

295 Prayer up, Donna.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

296 So, at the University of Virginia, a group called Friends Against Fascism Organization, amusing me greatly, is planning a US flag burning demonstration soon. I hope they DO FAFO!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (ha1wR)

297
53 is too young to go. Praying for more years.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (MhBev)

298 280 Sorry to hear that, God be with your folks. One of the less pleasant things about getting old is how you don't spring back like you used to. - Christopher R. Taylor

I turned 70 this year, and it's like the springs all went boing-g-g-g!! at one time. Talk about functional obsolescence.

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (mADJX)

299
There is also a provision in Emergency Medicaid the prohibits verifying or even asking if one is a citizen or legal resident. Strictly prohibited.
Posted by: Ripley

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Then how do we determine when to not reimburse hospitals for emergency care for illegal aliens?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (4U88C)

300 276 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX)

Sorry to hear that. Prayers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (ynpvh)

301 Remember also: the hospitals are in on this. They love funding for illegals because it's a big ka-ching to them.

Hospital administration is not about health care or medicine. Its about making money. They do not care for ethics, care for patients, or healing. They care about the bottom line and making it bigger. That's why they are so fully in on the tranny thing: its huge money maker for pharma and medical corporations. Those hacked up kids come back over and over their entire lives.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (dfIr7)

302 And no, getting a prescription for boner pills is NOT an emergency.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 03:29 PM (BHSfo)

Have you SEEN the rack on this girl?!?

It's an emergency!
-some guy

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (zZu0s)

303 Federal law requires that everyone in need of emergency care gets it. But they don't have to treat your headache or sniffles in the emergency room.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:14 PM

Here in NE Texas there are signs all over hospitals saying you can't be refused treatment for any reason including immigration status. The signs are in both english and spanish and they have a hotline phone number to call if you feel you have been denied treatment.

Illegals treat the ER as their primary care doctor. They *forgot* their ID when asked for it and give false names and fake addresses.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 03, 2025 03:32 PM (0N4FZ)

304 Why would you think that? Nobody here uses aliases.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:24 PM

To be fair, there are 47 commenters who use their real email address.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at October 03, 2025 03:32 PM (0sNs1)

305 Brian Keith was gay.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:30 PM (ynpvh)

He divorced Maureen O'Hara in the Parent Trap. Duh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

306
Brian Keith was gay.
Posted by: jim

I shant believe it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:32 PM (MhBev)

307 And more,
Rand study from 2011
The study revealed that between 1990 and 2009, the number of ERs in nonrural U.S. hospitals declined by 27 percent (from 2,446 to 1,779).

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:32 PM (WDjG6)

308 And no, getting a prescription for boner pills is NOT an emergency.
Posted by: Cicero

This trout is ready to spawn NOW! I've only got a 4 hour window to work with here!!!!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 03, 2025 03:33 PM (JCZqz)

309 Mary's been hitting the Sterno early today, I see.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 03, 2025 03:33 PM (WvZaB)

310 They *forgot* their ID when asked for it and give false names and fake addresses.

This only proves that they should be allowed to vote too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 03:33 PM (BHSfo)

311 Mary's been hitting the Sterno early today, I see.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 03, 2025 03:33 PM (WvZaB)
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Extra-strength sterno for certain occasions.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (krQz2)

312 Then how do we determine when to not reimburse hospitals for emergency care for illegal aliens?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (4U88C)

Bingo. You've just hit upon the huge hole built into the system.
The answer, of course, is that the Hospital has to tell the government they don't deserve to be reimbursed. Guess how often that happens.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (uWKK8)

313 276 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks - It's me donna

Prayers offered. God comfort him in his affliction, (and a miracle would be much appreciated, Lord). And God bless his mom.

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (mADJX)

314
You are wrong. You might be an author but I used to do policy studies for pay.
Posted by: whig

==============

Where's the wrongness? It seems to me EDs should be shutting down if they can't get reimbursed for treating illegal aliens.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4U88C)

315 I know for a fact that tens of hospitals in southern Kalifornia went belly up in the 2000s due to the fact of their ERs having to give care to illegal invaders.

The criminal illegal invaders bankrupted them and they closed. That is fact.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (17s+e)

316 310 They *forgot* their ID when asked for it and give false names and fake addresses.

This only proves that they should be allowed to vote too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 03:33 PM (BHSfo)

His name is "NO NAME GIVEN".
https://tinyurl.com/nhbskrhd

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (ynpvh)

317 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:27 PM (VE6XX)
********
Sending prayers, donna.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (NpAcC)

318 Thanks... You're the best

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (VE6XX)

319 I'm pessimistic and think this ain't 80-20, and that the incessant lying has half the country believing the left's line.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (EnTaA)

320 Remember also: the hospitals are in on this. They love funding for illegals because it's a big ka-ching to them.
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"Public service" employees are rife with libs.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (krQz2)

321
That illegal criminal fake school superintendent DEI hire in Iowa (checked all the boxes, didn't he?) is also at the center of "student grading scheme scandal" in Maryland. He rigged student grades.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (MhBev)

322 How do you debate someone who says one thing, then immediately denies they said it, and the media agrees?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at October 03, 2025 03:35 PM (gDhA9)

323 Magnum, PMS.
Pure genius, ace.

Posted by: PabloD at October 03, 2025 03:36 PM (KSYMi)

324
I know for a fact that tens of hospitals in southern Kalifornia went belly up in the 2000s due to the fact of their ERs having to give care to illegal invaders.

The criminal illegal invaders bankrupted them and they closed. That is fact.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

==============

Why did it only happen or start in the 2000s? Delayed effect? It should have been going on from the passage of the EMTALA in 1986.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4U88C)

325 >> How do you debate someone who says one thing, then immediately denies they said it, and the media agrees?

Punch them all in the throat.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (7ydyJ)

326 319 I'm pessimistic and think this ain't 80-20, and that the incessant lying has half the country believing the left's line.
Posted by: M. Gaga

Thankfully, Trump is a much different, and wiser, president in his second term. I think he's happy to let things burn down to the studs.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (JCZqz)

327 Remember all those 'health care' workers posting tik toks of themselves celebrating Charlie Kirk's death? I imagine they'll prioritize someone who looks like an illegal over a citizen every time.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (Dv3i1)

328
That illegal criminal fake school superintendent DEI hire in Iowa (checked all the boxes, didn't he?) is also at the center of "student grading scheme scandal" in Maryland. He rigged student grades.
Posted by: Soothsayer

===============

Is there any available grift this guy wasn't in on?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (4U88C)

329 I know for a fact that tens of hospitals in southern Kalifornia went belly up in the 2000s due to the fact of their ERs having to give care to illegal invaders.

Yup... Happened in my neck of the woods...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 03:38 PM (VE6XX)

330 321
That illegal criminal fake school superintendent DEI hire in Iowa (checked all the boxes, didn't he?) is also at the center of "student grading scheme scandal" in Maryland. He rigged student grades.
Posted by: Soothsayer

And voted. And lied about his degrees.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 03, 2025 03:38 PM (JCZqz)

331
Again, why is the GOP okay with subsidizing illegal aliens under Obamacare? Why AREN'T they cutting them out?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:39 PM (4U88C)

332 Go direct, tax remittances.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:21 PM (WDjG6)

I’m old enough to remember when people understood that such leads to tax dodging.

One, if you are a LEGAL immigrant, and remit money home, big deal. The money is yours. I see no need to punish them.

Two, screw that, why are ILLEGAL aliens employed to begin with, much less sending h8me remittances? You don’t sent a remittance , PERIOD, if you are illegal. And if you try, the whole weight of the law comes crashing down on your head. (Well, that should be what happens…

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 03, 2025 03:39 PM (EL2O4)

333 You know, if you gave Speaker Johnson a bleach job to turn his hair white, and a wallet on a chain, he would look just like Governor Tina Kotex.

Same hair, same manly chin and everything

Posted by: Kindltot at October 03, 2025 03:39 PM (rbvCR)

334
For Fake News, history begins arbitrarily. For now, fake news' fake history begins January 21, 2025, or yesterday, if necessary.

Everything the Democrats said the day before yesterday never happened.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:39 PM (MhBev)

335 Gotta love left. "Illegals aren't allowed to get Medicaid or whatever."

Yeah, in theory, this is true.

Just like "illegals aren't allowed into the US."

Shall we talk about what's actually happening in the real world?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (tT6L1)

336 I know for a fact that tens of hospitals in southern Kalifornia went belly up in the 2000s due to the fact of their ERs having to give care to illegal invaders.

The criminal illegal invaders bankrupted them and they closed. That is fact.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

==============

Why did it only happen or start in the 2000s? Delayed effect? It should have been going on from the passage of the EMTALA in 1986.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4U88C)
==

1. Hospitals had some cash momentum.

2. Hospitals had room to jack up prices from more reasonable times.

3. There just were fewer criminal illegal invaders depleting the ER and hospital system.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (17s+e)

337 Remember all those 'health care' workers posting tik toks of themselves celebrating Charlie Kirk's death? I imagine they'll prioritize someone who looks like an illegal over a citizen every time.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (Dv3i1)

328
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I can just imagine Noah Wylie on The Pitt (Good series, regardless!) being "heroic" and documenting boner pills to an illegal as "life-saving".

Because to the progs, that's heroic. You *care* about people.

But if some yacker gets shot...

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (krQz2)

338 Why did it only happen or start in the 2000s? Delayed effect? It should have been going on from the passage of the EMTALA in 1986.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4U88C)

I suspect, from what I've seen around here, is that as the Health industry consolidated in a relatively limited number of large "systems" consisting of multiple hospitals and clinics, that the Big Guys put a lot of effort into squeezing out anyone who tried to stay independent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (uWKK8)

339 Where's the wrongness? It seems to me EDs should be shutting down if they can't get reimbursed for treating illegal aliens.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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They are shutting down because in some cases, the reimbursements are less than what the cost of the treatment is. So a smaller hospital in a poor area or often rural area gets overloaded, they cannot balance that with paying customers. Then some are teaching hospitals which get special subsidies tied to treating poor patients and they often serve as medical trials for new procedures, etc.

In wealthier urban areas, they shut down the ERs because it is either a for profit hospital or because its clientele will go elsewhere for medical treatment if their treatment is delayed or affected by hordes of people in ERs.

In the specific case above, illegals are being enrolled into Obamacare or Medicaid despite federal law and states then use the tax on medical providers in order to expand Medicaid matches to get more federal bucks.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (WDjG6)

340 Dreamers (DACA) and Asylum seekers. Trump said they are illegal now. They were eligible for healthcare benefits before the one big beautiful bill. By redefining what an illegal immigrant is, they can stretch the truth to make those statements.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Asylum seekers = illegal
Posted by: It's me donna at October 03, 2025 02:49 PM (VE6XX)

Asylum seekers by law must wait outside the US at the first border it is safe to stop at and apply for asylum and wait there. Running around in country is illegal

Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (8avO+)

341 Gotta love left. "Illegals aren't allowed to get Medicaid or whatever."

Yeah, in theory, this is true.

Just like "illegals aren't allowed into the US."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (tT6L1)
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Then, you fix that with irreversible "Prosecutorial discretion"!

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:41 PM (krQz2)

342 193 I think it goes for poor people too--love for money is one of those barriers to a relationship with Christ and the Good Book is replete with examples where not binding the kine that threshes one's grain or leaving aside some wheat for harvest for the widows and poor is good.

Love of money, rather than the lack or abundance of it, is the barrier if you love money more than Christ.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

That, and people are always told "The reason you aren't successful is because you didn't follow the rules strictly enough, your behavior isn't stoic enough!", while the affluent bastards are busy roleplaying their Caligula fantasies...

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (UnA8+)

343 Apparently suspicions are mounting that David Hogg, Harvard graduate, and his Leaders We Deserve organization are just grifters. Sad!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (0sNs1)

344 Liberals are now calling for Democrat Sen. John Fetterman (PA) to be primaried after he posted that "left-wing terrorism climbs to 30-year high" and DEMANDED that his own party stop calling conservatives "Hitler or fascist."

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (JnEe8)

345 "Excuse me, not strictly true. It is a flat-out lie. It is a flat-out lie!" Warren said.

Well, if anyone knows lying...

Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (2WIwB)

346 Be sure to hit your Congresscritter or Senator with a phone call, e-mail, snail mail, something, telling them you are not good with taxpayer giveaways to people who cannot even respect our immigration laws.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (EL2O4)

347 344 Liberals are now calling for Democrat Sen. John Fetterman (PA) to be primaried after he posted that "left-wing terrorism climbs to 30-year high" and DEMANDED that his own party stop calling conservatives "Hitler or fascist."

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (JnEe

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It's been obvious that the left were going to primary him in 2028.

And he's probably going to lose that primary fight. He's like Sinema.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

348 I suspect, from what I've seen around here, is that as the Health industry consolidated in a relatively limited number of large "systems" consisting of multiple hospitals and clinics, that the Big Guys put a lot of effort into squeezing out anyone who tried to stay independent.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Rural area hospitals are essentially closing the doors across America because they don't have the ability to shift costs like urban or suburban hospital systems do.

ER treatment for illegals makes it worse for them as well because they are barely staying in business anyway. Real problem in rural America getting adequate healthy care--few providers, long distances, and increasingly no hospitals around for emergency treatment.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (WDjG6)

349 "Excuse me, not strictly true. It is a flat-out lie. It is a flat-out lie!" Warren said.

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Elizabeth Warren said, flat-out lying.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (krQz2)

350 I've never heard anything about Brian Keith being gay. He was married three times - to women - which I think is pretty close to being prima facie evidence that he wasn't.

Hell, not even Sebastian Cabot was gay.

Posted by: Paco at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (mADJX)

351 Liberals are now calling for Democrat Sen. John Fetterman (PA) to be primaried after he posted that "left-wing terrorism climbs to 30-year high" and DEMANDED that his own party stop calling conservatives "Hitler or fascist."

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (JnEe

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Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

352 Why did it only happen or start in the 2000s? Delayed effect? It should have been going on from the passage of the EMTALA in 1986.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4U88C)

I suspect, from what I've seen around here, is that as the Health industry consolidated in a relatively limited number of large "systems" consisting of multiple hospitals and clinics, that the Big Guys put a lot of effort into squeezing out anyone who tried to stay independent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:40 PM (uWKK

___

Yes. There were hospital closures in the late 1990s and early 2000s. But I doubt it had anything to do with having to care for illegals. Even if it did, the hospitals certainly learned how to make $$$ off illegals, or else they would be loudly against what the Dems are trying to do. They ain't. They know this is a racket.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

353 351 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

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He's kind of like our Cornyn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

354
Democrats latest firmware download:

1. No illegals will get free health care.
2. Everyone here is entitled to free health care.
3. Why are you lying about what we said?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:44 PM (MhBev)

355 Then how do we determine when to not reimburse hospitals for emergency care for illegal aliens?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (4U88C)

Bingo. You've just hit upon the huge hole built into the system.
The answer, of course, is that the Hospital has to tell the government they don't deserve to be reimbursed. Guess how often that happens.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (uWKK

I'd think even the smallest description of the service rendered would distinguish between "Manuel was shot in the streets and had surgery" and "we gave aspirin to Mama Gomez and her 4 kids".

Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (8avO+)

356 I've never heard anything about Brian Keith being gay. He was married three times - to women - which I think is pretty close to being prima facie evidence that he wasn't.
Posted by: Paco

He had some kind of issue, because he committed suicide.

Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)

357 354
Democrats latest firmware download:

1. No illegals will get free health care.
2. Everyone here is entitled to free health care.
3. Why are you lying about what we said?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:44 PM (MhBev)

=======

"Pssh. You think not wanting everyone on the planet to have American healthcare is a bad look?"
-something I saw a leftist say

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

358 Strange hill for Democrats to die on. They must know they're publicly perceived as the instigators of this shutdown mess

I don't think they do... They're believing the MSM on this...
Posted by: It's me donna

I think they believe they can continue to spout their BS and as this goes along hide behind the escalating antifa violence.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (2WIwB)

359 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)
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It's an endless purity spiral.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (krQz2)

360 Want to chase 80% of illegals out of the ER?

$40 bucks up front and they clear out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM (tT6L1)

361 351 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

A vote isn't enough. One has to also mouth the correct words, signal the correct virtues.

Otherwise, the Borg doesn't look so monolithic (regardless of vote).

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM (UnA8+)

362
I still need, nay, demand, an explanation on why and how boobs changed since the 50's.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM (MhBev)

363 Yes. There were hospital closures in the late 1990s and early 2000s. But I doubt it had anything to do with having to care for illegals. Even if it did, the hospitals certainly learned how to make $$$ off illegals, or else they would be loudly against what the Dems are trying to do. They ain't. They know this is a racket.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)
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I remember the less commie biased local news of those days saying that IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE ILLEGALS WERE PUTTING ON THE ER.

But hey you be you.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (17s+e)

364 And now for something completely different (que Monty Python Theme)

Nothing matters any more. There's a 4% chance of a large asteroid hitting the moon in 2032. What's the point of going on?

Clarification: I could give a flying flip about the moon getting hit. It's all the, so-called, experts that are lobbying to attempt to used a nuclear explosion to destroy the asteroid before hits the moon. I've seen who qualifies as an "expert" these days, and I could see these guys doing a half-ass assessment, launching their nuke, and changing the trajectory to accidentally hit the Earth.

Posted by: Orson at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (dIske)

365 361 351 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

A vote isn't enough. One has to also mouth the correct words, signal the correct virtues.

Otherwise, the Borg doesn't look so monolithic (regardless of vote).
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM (UnA8+)

=======

Dude has something like 40+ point approval from Republicans in Pennsylvania. He's trying to be the John McCain of PA.

The problem is that Republicans don't vote in Democrat primaries.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

366 Liberals are now calling for Democrat Sen. John Fetterman (PA) to be primaried after he posted that "left-wing terrorism climbs to 30-year high" and DEMANDED that his own party stop calling conservatives "Hitler or fascist."

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:42 PM (JnEe
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Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

Fetterman is safe until 2028 isn't he? bad tactics.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (8avO+)

367 "Excuse me, not strictly true. It is a flat-out lie. It is a flat-out lie!" Warren said.

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Elizabeth Warren said, flat-out lying.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (krQz2)

***

Precisely!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (2WIwB)

368 ---
Elizabeth Warren said, flat-out lying.
Posted by: Axeman
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Indian viper speaks with forked tongue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (XeU6L)

369 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)
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It's an endless purity spiral.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (krQz2)

I’m
Voting for Paxton in the primary, divorce or no divorce…. Not a purity test for me. Paxton is simply closer to MAGA than Cornyn who is really a Bushie trying to run as MAGA

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (i5Vkf)

370 Then how do we determine when to not reimburse hospitals for emergency care for illegal aliens?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:31 PM (4U88C)

Bingo. You've just hit upon the huge hole built into the system.
The answer, of course, is that the Hospital has to tell the government they don't deserve to be reimbursed. Guess how often that happens.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:34 PM (uWKK

I'd think even the smallest description of the service rendered would distinguish between "Manuel was shot in the streets and had surgery" and "we gave aspirin to Mama Gomez and her 4 kids".
Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:45 PM (8avO+)
____

The hospital wants to be reimbursed -- duh -- so the scam is that they do tests for some phantom serious illness that's smoke for the real reason the illegal was there.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

371 Schumer is on TV crying and lying about how mean the Republicans are and how America wants the Government to reopen because the pain is so intense...

Time to change the Tampon Chucky....

Posted by: Jackson at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (X7dyz)

372 I still need, nay, demand, an explanation on why and how boobs changed since the 50's.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM

I don't think boobs, per se, have changed, but rather their support system.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (0sNs1)

373 371 Schumer is on TV crying and lying about how mean the Republicans are and how America wants the Government to reopen because the pain is so intense...

Time to change the Tampon Chucky....
Posted by: Jackson at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (X7dyz)

========

"Cancel another few billion in grants, Russy."
-Trump

"Done."
-Russ Vought, primary author of Project 2025, given the keys to the kingdom by Chuck Schumer

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

374 That illegal criminal fake school superintendent DEI hire in Iowa (checked all the boxes, didn't he?) is also at the center of "student grading scheme scandal" in Maryland. He rigged student grades.
Posted by: Soothsayer

And voted. And lied about his degrees.
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And almost certainly committed mortgage fraud.

Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (TN0g+)

375 I still need, nay, demand, an explanation on why and how boobs changed since the 50's.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM
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Birth control pills?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (tT6L1)

376 He was married three times -
Posted by: Paco

He had some kind of issue, because he committed suicide.
Posted by: Bulg

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Hmm. One wonders if there is a correlation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (XeU6L)

377 Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried?

Because they have to keep pushing that narrative, its their only leverage. If they try to win on policy, they lose. If they try to win on personality and likability, they lose. If they try to win on philosophy and worldview, they lose. If they try to win on facts and truth, they lose, because none of that is on their side.

They have to fearmonger, lie, and drive their base nuts with fears of jackboots on the ever-distant horizon or they cannot maintain any voters or funding and cannot scare people into voting for them.

That means they cannot allow even the slightest dissent or correction. Its why they instantly tried to portray Kirk's murder on MAGA and buried the murder of that poor Iryna girl. Its why after Kirk was assassinated, they went out and doubled down, with guys chanting "WE got him in the neck"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (dfIr7)

378 372 I still need, nay, demand, an explanation on why and how boobs changed since the 50's.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 03, 2025 03:46 PM

I don't think boobs, per se, have changed, but rather their support system.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (0sNs1)

It was the Torpedo Control Act of 1962.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (uWKK8)

379 Can I ask for prayers for a friends son who has stage 4 cancer.. Looks like he doesn't have much time... He's only 53.. Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna

Donna -

May your friend’s family Be Blessed with Health and Healing. May they know Peace and Strength at this frightening time.

Posted by: Adriane the Critic . . . at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (3ZUWJ)

380 If you come in the hospital with a gunshot or you OD'd on Fetanyl, they of course don't turn you away, but Law Enforcement gets involved.

Should be the same for illegal aliens.

Posted by: Leupold at October 03, 2025 03:50 PM (eIzlH)

381 Yes. There were hospital closures in the late 1990s and early 2000s. But I doubt it had anything to do with having to care for illegals. Even if it did, the hospitals certainly learned how to make $$$ off illegals, or else they would be loudly against what the Dems are trying to do. They ain't. They know this is a racket.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)
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I remember the less commie biased local news of those days saying that IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE ILLEGALS WERE PUTTING ON THE ER.

But hey you be you.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (17s+e)
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Oh well then you can take that to the bank! As mentioned above, if the problem was truly illegals in the ER, then the very simple solution is the close the ER. You can still service "paying" customers the same way you did before, only without a "ER" sign out front.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

382 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

Everyone has to never be the first man to stop clapping. He also is not reliably anti Israel. He checks a lot of the thought crime and even more, speaks it out loud. As we have seen with this, so much of their strategy depends on only one message going out. NPC programming works.

That is why they will have to all be killed one day and utterly defeated or they will do worse to us.

Hypothetically.

AND this is also the same thing they say about us. They work themselves into frenzied of religious ecstasy. And then one of them goes on a rampage.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:50 PM (zZu0s)

383 Is there any available grift this guy wasn't in on?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 03, 2025 03:37 PM (4U88C)

Ethanol subsidies? Check if he was part owner of a farm.

Posted by: pookysgirl, posting from corn-land at October 03, 2025 03:50 PM (Wt5PA)

384 Wow, Fetterman is a completely reliable vote on the left yet, because he dares speak out, he should be primaried? Wild.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tT6L1)

Fetterman is safe until 2028 isn't he? bad tactics.
Posted by: Oldcat

The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe8)

385 The hospital wants to be reimbursed -- duh -- so the scam is that they do tests for some phantom serious illness that's smoke for the real reason the illegal was there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

Doing tests also isn't an emergency.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (8avO+)

386 But I doubt it had anything to do with having to care for illegals. Even if it did, the hospitals certainly learned how to make $$$ off illegals

Well, that's just it: the ones who could, did but not all of them could and many of these programs were not in place then.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (dfIr7)

387 "Pssh. You think not wanting everyone on the planet to have American healthcare is a bad look?"
-something I saw a leftist say
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It's like they think if more money is needed to care for the world's sick and dying, then the government just runs the printing presses and bingo!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:52 PM (Dv3i1)

388 Elizabeth Warren said, flat-out lying.
Posted by: Axeman
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Indian viper speaks with forked tongue.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 03, 2025 03:47 PM (XeU6L)

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Forked tongue is necessary so she can talk out of both sides of her mouth.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 03:52 PM (2WIwB)

389 Possible news- Hamas has reportedly agreed to release all hostages per Reuters.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 03, 2025 03:52 PM (NpAcC)

390 They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.

They've kept it up for half a century. Many of those people have nothing else keeping them going except fear and hate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:52 PM (dfIr7)

391 384 The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe

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Sinema became a target of hate from the far left early in her 6 year tenure in the Senate.

The left kept it up for so long that she left the Democrat Party to avoid a primary and then refused to run for re-election because she was polling at about 10% in the general.

Fetterman is more likely to become the next Sinema than he is to be a Senator in February of 2029.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

392 That, and people are always told "The reason you aren't successful is because you didn't follow the rules strictly enough, your behavior isn't stoic enough!", while the affluent bastards are busy roleplaying their Caligula fantasies...
Posted by: XTC
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Forgiveness is tough to do especially when it is family or friends that do you wrong. I had a similar father growing up and treating me much the same way as your apparently treated you. That being said, we reconciled before he died and I am content putting that behind me now. I found that Christ was there in my darkest hours and he will never betray you.

So forgiveness is better for the soul because the past can never change. One of the hardest things to do is like Indiana Jones did in the Last Crusade. Take a leap of faith knowing that salvation is free to those that take it and following Christ's ways are how you get salvation.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM (WDjG6)

393 He had some kind of issue, because he committed suicide.
Posted by: Bulg
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And everybody knows:

Issue <=> closeted gay.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM (krQz2)

394 Me: So, Trump's bill stops hospitals from being reimbursed for treating illegals.

Lefty: Yes, and that's wrong.

Me: So, you want illegals to get free health care.

Lefty: No, illegals cannot be on medicaid.

Me: But, a hospital can treat an illegal, and get reimbursed from medicaid. So, the illegal gets health care, and does not pay for it, which logically means that they are getting free health care.

Lefty: You're a liar and probably a white supremacist.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM (0U5gm)

395 The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe

I wanna say 'you sweet summer child' but I suspect you're older than me

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM (zZu0s)

396 Possible news- Hamas has reportedly agreed to release all hostages per Reuters.
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The hostages are dead. Hamas always lies. Hamas can't afford for the world to realize that the hostages are dead. Therefore, Hamas was lying yet again when they "reportedly" agreed to release all the hostages.

The lying will stop when the last member of Hamas is dead. It won't stop a minute before then.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:54 PM (TN0g+)

397 And almost certainly committed mortgage fraud.
Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at October 03, 2025 03:49 PM (TN0g+)

That one is fairly easy to get the edge on, find out his old addresses, contact the county to determine who the owners were for the past 15 years, and if his name shows the chances are that he either had a mortgage or bought it straight out.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 03, 2025 03:54 PM (rbvCR)

398 It was the Torpedo Control Act of 1962.
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It was like an arms race that was starting to get out of hand.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 03, 2025 03:54 PM (Dv3i1)

399 Doing tests also isn't an emergency.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (8avO+)

I know an older woman, personally, who called an ER Team with two firetruck crews over to her house because she was having "heart Palpitations" and said she thought she was going to die. (she lived by herself) I saw the commotion, was worried about her, so I went by and saw one of the ER crew standing outside, and I asked him how she was.

He said with a bit of disgust in his voice, "she's fine, I think she was just bored today."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (uWKK8)

400 Fetterman is more likely to become the next Sinema than he is to be a Senator in February of 2029.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I think you are correct. Makes you wonder why he did it. Manchin knew one way or another his political future was narrowing from age and the fact WV was turning ruby red. Fetterman is a first term senator and PA is a battleground state with a bluish tinge.

Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (WDjG6)

401 Should be the same for illegal aliens.

I agree, but nurses tend to be the "yay Charlie got shot, more should!" type that dances around on Tik Tok when the worst plague in human history is Killing Us All®

They will do their able best to make sure no ICE gets to their patients.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (dfIr7)

402
The hospital wants to be reimbursed -- duh -- so the scam is that they do tests for some phantom serious illness that's smoke for the real reason the illegal was there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Covid-19! Cha-ching!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (XeU6L)

403 The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe

They will double down and triple down on the rhetoric in order to incite more violence and, they hope, a response that they (and their media buddies) can jump on and dominate the news cycle. Probably a few weeks before the elections.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (2WIwB)

404 400 Fetterman is more likely to become the next Sinema than he is to be a Senator in February of 2029.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I think you are correct. Makes you wonder why he did it. Manchin knew one way or another his political future was narrowing from age and the fact WV was turning ruby red. Fetterman is a first term senator and PA is a battleground state with a bluish tinge.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 03:55 PM (WDjG6)

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I think Fetterman is stupid, but dedicated to his ideological causes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

405 The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe

I wanna say 'you sweet summer child' but I suspect you're older than me
Posted by: Aetius451AD

*snort.

This level of hate feels differently than before.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (JnEe8)

406 He was married three times -
Posted by: Paco

He had some kind of issue, because he committed suicide.
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A Hollywood friend of his said she had seen him a week before and he was in good spirits. She also pointed out he had a big gun collection, and its just as likely that he accidentally shot himself while handling or cleaning a gun rather than it being suicide.

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (TN0g+)

407 The left will flame out long before '28. They can't keep this level of hate up for three solid years.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:51 PM (JnEe

I wanna say 'you sweet summer child' but I suspect you're older than me
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM

May I suggest a speculation regarding his level of cynicism mismatching his age? Works for me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (0sNs1)

408 I think Fetterman is stupid, but dedicated to his ideological causes

Yeah I think he's too dumb to realize the tricks being played and is trying to be consistent. Like the draft horse in Animal Farm.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:57 PM (dfIr7)

409 This level of hate feels differently than before.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (JnEe

It does, but i think they can keep it up.

I think we are partially running i to the psychological equivalent of the Sunk Cost fallacy. They are like generals in WWI.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:57 PM (zZu0s)

410 A nooding I will go
A nooding I will go
Hi ho A dairy oh
A nooding I did go.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 03, 2025 03:58 PM (wBaIH)

411 A Hollywood friend of his said she had seen him a week before and he was in good spirits. She also pointed out he had a big gun collection, and its just as likely that he accidentally shot himself while handling or cleaning a gun rather than it being suicide.
Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM

You know who else died while handling his gun?

Posted by: zombie David Carradine at October 03, 2025 03:58 PM (0sNs1)

412 I wanna say 'you sweet summer child' but I suspect you're older than me
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:53 PM

May I suggest a speculation regarding his level of cynicism mismatching his age? Works for me.
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This is one of those "divide by 2 and then add 7" moments, right?

Posted by: Crusader at October 03, 2025 03:59 PM (TN0g+)

413 They could make the argument that eroom care is always going to be provided for some illegal coming in that has been hit by a truck, and that the hospital will go bankrupt if someone else (you and me) doesn't pay for it and then nobody gets care.
Which is probably true. Partially. The hospital, in that instance, certainly will, and the illegal.will not pay for it. But that instance, and others like it won't bankrupt the eroom. What will bankrupt them is providing care for shit that you and I make appointments with our PCP to take care of. There are lots of articles out there describing how the poor use the eroom as their PCP. That's why Medicaid pays eroom.expenses. We will continue to do it... for our own citizens. It seems harsh, and it is, but it is one more incentive that encourages illegal immigration and has to be cut off.

Posted by: buddhaha at October 03, 2025 03:59 PM (PB2Bs)

414 I think Fetterman is stupid, but dedicated to his ideological causes

Yeah I think he's too dumb to realize the tricks being played and is trying to be consistent. Like the draft horse in Animal Farm.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 03:57 PM (dfIr7)
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I think Fetterman is staunchly defending "Old-guard Democratic politics" these days. And wants to pull his party back from the brink.

Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 04:00 PM (krQz2)

415 I think we are partially running i to the psychological equivalent of the Sunk Cost fallacy

Also, although I don't know the name of the syndrome, they are in a place where if they back off now, they have to admit that they went too far, did stuff that is awful, supported horrific things, and pushed for things that violate their stated principles.

Its the same reason the left won't and cannot back off of the tranny thing. To do so would be to admit that they were grooming and mangling children and encouraging sucidal mentally ill people in their illness. They cannot back off of that, because of the cost to their psyche and worldview.

Its why some people still wear masks and demand everyone else has to be forced to, still require social distancing etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 04:01 PM (dfIr7)

416 409 This level of hate feels differently than before.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 03:56 PM (JnEe

It does, but i think they can keep it up.

I think we are partially running i to the psychological equivalent of the Sunk Cost fallacy. They are like generals in WWI.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 03, 2025 03:57 PM (zZu0s)

They've been hating non-stop since Slick Willie brought The Hildebeest with him into the oval office, what's another 30 years to them?

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 04:06 PM (UnA8+)

417 415 Its the same reason the left won't and cannot back off of the tranny thing. To do so would be to admit that they were grooming and mangling children and encouraging sucidal mentally ill people in their illness. They cannot back off of that, because of the cost to their psyche and worldview.

Its why some people still wear masks and demand everyone else has to be forced to, still require social distancing etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2025 04:01 PM (dfIr7)

Also note that many troons who can't afford FFS still want everybody to wear masks, too, because it hides the shape of their jaw.

Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 04:07 PM (UnA8+)

418 I love it when Ace, my love, targets nitwit liberal journalists. Currently "mustachioed villain Kaitlin Collins" is a favorite.

I am telling y'all she's trans. Facial structure, dead eyes. It has a pecker. Maybe not a useful one or one it is proud of, but a pecker pecks a poochie at times.

If not, bless her heart for looking so manly and bitter. Way beyond resting bitch face.

It is possible if you are bitter most of your life due to your strange nethers, you can distort hormones and all sorts of crap with your cortisol levels. Look at the others like Joyless Reid. I don't know what that looks like, neither man nor woman. Possibly a Probocis Monkey? The hair's red, so I have that part correct.

I am slowly getting back to normal after weeks of family wacko stress impacting my beauty sleep, which, in turn, ticks me off. Now we have family visiting that I love and maybe the edge will be off. Probably with wine or gin and all normal again soon, mates!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 03, 2025 04:28 PM (6PCLE)

419 Isn't there a clause to pay for illegal's gentital mutation surgery? I could be hallucinating.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 03, 2025 04:43 PM (6PCLE)

420 Yes, she's an outright liar and always has been.

What's ended is all of the C19 extensions and pots of money from that time scheduled to end 30 September 2025, with one exception to make an in person visit v. telemedicine in some cases and do it by the end of the calendar year.

That's what was written and agreed upon for years.

How much does Demos org and friends feed her and her campaigns?

But aside from that, she needs to be thoroughly evaluated for mental and physical competency. Clearly, she has problems.

Posted by: L- No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 04:49 PM (NFX2v)

421
Also, they're screaming: The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 allowed states to extend Medicaid coverage for postpartum care from the standard 60 days to 12 months. , The policy is now permanent and has been adopted by many states.

It's permanent by Federal law and all states and regardless mother's immigration status? No, that's doubtful.

And carping for abortion coverage is back, of course. Abortion care, pro-abortion judges, free online medication, and so on.

Posted by: L- No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 05:11 PM (NFX2v)

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