Gun Thread: 4th and Final September Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 4th September edition?! The October 17th & 18th TXMoMe is getting even closer! More on that below, including a bigly important update. Also, I need to make this a highly abbreviated Gun Thread this week, so apologies in advance.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Sight fundamentals. Are you practicing them?

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.223 vs. 5.56

What's the difference?

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Highway Patrol
This week's episode - Counterfeit!

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FUNdamentals of MoMe'n: TXMoMe X

They Mome'n down in Texas!

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9/28/25 BIGLY IMPORTANT NOTE:
We are implementing a change regarding the safety briefing and range access this year. The daily mandatory safety briefings are really mandatory now if you plan on shooting each day. Without exception. These will be conducted on the carport at 10am on Friday and 9am on Saturday. Due to the growth of the shooting programs, at the conclusion of the safety briefing you will be asked to sign a liability release form and only then be issued a color coded wrist band for the day. The wrist band is your ticket onto the ranges. No wrist band, no range access. If you visit the bar during the day, you remove the wrist band. Simple.

For those who miss the mandatory briefings in the morning, we will attempt to accommodate with a secondary briefing sometime after lunch for late arrivals to sign the release and be issued a wrist band for that day.

RSO's - I will be sending a follow-up email to you soon.

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2025 TXMoMe Schedule of Shooting Activities
Friday, 10/17
Rifle Program
8am - 10am: Rifle Clinic (carport)
10am - 11am: Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory! (carport)
Noon: Light lunch provided (carport)
11am - 4pm: Live fire (rifle range - targets to 1,000 yds)

Handgun Program
10am - 11am: Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory! (carport)
11am - 2:30pm: Static live fire (pistol range)
11:00am - 12:00pm: Handgun FUNdamentals (tentative)
Noon: Light lunch provided (carport)
1:00pm to 2:00 pm (carport) - Demonstration: Basics of Rifle & Handgun Cleaning and Maintenance - EdL
2:30 - 4pm: Briefing and Move & Shoot live fire (pistol range)

Saturday, 10/18
Rifle Program
9am - 10am: Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory! (carport)
9am - 1pm: Live fire (rifle range)

Handgun Program
9am - 10am: Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory! (carport)
9am - 1pm: Live fire (pistol range)

These times are approximate and programs may change as weather conditions and participation warrant. We anticipate a hard stop on both ranges at 1pm on Saturday to allow everyone to participate in the MoMe festivities.

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The time has come to begin the discussion of the upcoming TXMoMe in Corsicana, TX on October 17-18. This is the TENTH annual TXMoMe, or Conservative Burning Man as it's popularly known, and it promises to be a doozy. If you're in either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere of the Planet of the Earth, contact Ben Had for details on attending. The dates and email links for all MoMes are always helpfully included on the blog's main page, left sidebar.

What started years ago as a small get-together and informal plinking session lasting a couple of hours has matured into a full scale jamboree-hootenanny including a program of shooting activities for both handguns and rifles over two days. I have to thank Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen and RancherBob for making this whole thing happen and providing the opportunity for the shooting to comprise such a significant portion of the event.

But wait! There's more! Combine that with world class food and drink, and the even world classier company of your fellow Morons, and you have a weekend that legends are made of. For those not inclined to shoot (?), there are non-stop opportunities to relax in the shade of the carport or under a handy nearby tree with a beverage and visit with your online pals to your hearts content, which is really what the whole damn thing is about in the first place..

Allow me to be serious for a minute. I have said this probably two hundred and fifty-seven times now. These gatherings are a really good time, and I know of no one who expresses regret after having attended one. Actually it goes beyond that. It's not just a weekend of laughs, it's an opportunity to connect with lots of like-minded people and create lasting friendships and priceless memories. No kidding. Think that's hyperbole? It snot. Would your ol' pal Weasel lie to you? Well, yes he would, but not about this. TXMoMe veterans will attest to the funness and completely laid-back nature of the event. Don't be a dork, do yourself a favor and get yo' ass to Texas!

TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

Call for Volunteers
Help! As I mentioned above, the shooting program in Texas continues to grow, and we wouldn't be able to do it without a lot of help. If you're interested in lending a hand in some capacity, please drop me a note at gunthread at protonmail dot com indicating your date and time of arrival and we'll be in touch. Thank You!

If you are attending the TXMoMe this year, and all the cool kids are, please keep an eye on this section for important information and updates in the coming weeks! I also want to reiterate the TXMoMe is not a gun thing with some socializing attached, but rather is a social thing with some shooting attached. If you aren't a shooter, I guarantee you will not feel out of place and will have a great time. No fooling!

Are all y'all getting excited? Weasel are!!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:00 PM (Q9Vcs)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2025 07:00 PM (+qU29)

4 Second!

Posted by: Coelacanth at September 28, 2025 07:00 PM (DJPFk)

5 First world problem: ported barrel.

Had a squib for the first time in my life yesterday.
.357 magnum in a Taurus Tracker 4" barrel that's ported at the end of the barrel.

I knew it was a squib by the anemic pop. With it being so anemic, the bullet was traveling so slow that when it got to the porting, it lost all back pressure.

It wound up half in and half out of the barrel. It was fun trying to find stuff small enough to fit down the barrel to tap it out far enough so I could grab it with pliers.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:01 PM (Q9Vcs)

6 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)

7 Guys with gubs are moving into Portland.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (KWyxI)

8 Looks like fun

Posted by: Rancherbob at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (Cp8Ff)

9 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:03 PM (Q9Vcs)

10 What's the biggest sidearm with a binary trigger?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:06 PM (KWyxI)

11 Lot of gun violence in the news. Crazy ex Marines.
They don't get to be known as former.

Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 07:06 PM (EYmYM)

12 Getting excited about the MoMe. Dang right I am.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 07:07 PM (kurEY)

13 Not even top ten.
Got distracted.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:07 PM (Dvcu+)

14 Guys with gubs are moving into Portland.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (KWyxI)

8 Looks like fun
Posted by: Rancherbob at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (Cp8Ff)

Use the butt of your rifle, soldier.

Posted by: Helpful at September 28, 2025 07:08 PM (zZu0s)

15 Did they break their bayonetts?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:09 PM (KWyxI)

16 Howdy!

(lurk mode activated)

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 07:10 PM (hyDPU)

17 Why yes, I did go to the range yesterday. We had a rifle day, moving the firing line back from the usual 7-10 yards to 25. It seemed that .22ish weapons were the flavor of the day, either .22 LR or 5.56mm.

I, of course, was a non-conformist, putting my Carcano Moschetto through its paces. Kind of cool having the pew pew around me (the AR was suppressed) and then I'd let loose with a full-powered cartridge. I set up some water jugs and one went airborne.

Much fun.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 07:10 PM (ZOv7s)

18 With it being so anemic, the bullet was traveling so slow that when it got to the porting, it lost all back pressure.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:01 PM (Q9Vcs)

So, does that mean the porting worked?

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:11 PM (Dvcu+)

19 It wound up half in and half out of the barrel. It was fun trying to find stuff small enough to fit down the barrel to tap it out far enough so I could grab it with pliers.
Posted by: rickb223
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I have brass dowels sized for different bores to do just that, only for rifles length.

Wood dowels can mushroom at the end under pounding and make a bigger mess of the bore when pounding obstructions out.

Rare you need such things as noted but when you do, you need them badly to save a trip to the gunsmith.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:11 PM (WDjG6)

20 I've been using the DampRid you can buy in the grocery store for my safe. Anybody else use it. Less expensive than the moisture absorbers sold specifically for gun safes.

Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM (EYmYM)

21 If ever there was a need for a chainsaw bayonet, Portland may be the place/time.

Posted by: Duncanthrax, who represents the at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM (0sNs1)

22 What's the biggest sidearm with a binary trigger?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:06 PM (KWyxI)

Probably anything on an AR-10 platform. That's what they're mostly made for. I could put one on my Beowulf.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM (Dvcu+)

23 It wound up half in and half out of the barrel. It was fun trying to find stuff small enough to fit down the barrel to tap it out far enough so I could grab it with pliers.
Posted by: rickb223

I would have just driven all the way down and out through the forcing cone.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)

24 I, of course, was a non-conformist, putting my Carcano Moschetto through its paces.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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With the fold out bayonet or without?

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:13 PM (WDjG6)

25 And here I thought I was an hour + late.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:13 PM (8T3Xj)

26 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: TRex - fundamental dino at September 28, 2025 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 I have brass dowels sized for different bores to do just that, only for rifles length.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:11 PM (WDjG6)

But his he had to insert from the cylinder end of the barrel, making it a little more problematic.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:14 PM (Dvcu+)

28 I've been using the DampRid you can buy in the grocery store for my safe. Anybody else use it. Less expensive than the moisture absorbers sold specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM (EYmYM)

Just don't spill it. It makes an icky chemical. I don't think it's terribly toxic, but it's gross.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:15 PM (Dvcu+)

29 The TXMOME is the best family reunion a guy like me could ever hope for.

Much better than any family reunions I've attended in the past.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2025 07:15 PM (IBQGV)

30 It wound up half in and half out of the barrel. It was fun trying to find stuff small enough to fit down the barrel to tap it out far enough so I could grab it with pliers.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:01 PM (Q9Vcs)

That sounds like loads of fun. Bendy and stiff at the same time!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 07:15 PM (n9ltV)

31 With the fold out bayonet or without?
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:13 PM (WDjG6)
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With. One of my friends said I was doing it wrong, and needed to extend the bayonet, which I did, but of course the barrel was already hot, so it was a delicate procedure.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 07:16 PM (ZOv7s)

32 Not Second!
Good evening to you all and happy Sunday evening. Wish I’d had that great video re .223 vs 5.56 a few years ago.

No shooting for me yet, but I’m done with the splint. Now to get strength and dexterity back in the left hand.
Thanks to you Weasel and a great week ahead to all of the MoronHorde

Posted by: Coelacanth at September 28, 2025 07:17 PM (YnIVK)

33 So, does that mean the porting worked?
Posted by: GWB

No. Had there been no ports, it would have popped out maybe 5 feet. With the porting, it lost all pressure before totally leaving the barrel.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:17 PM (Q9Vcs)

34 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)

35 20 I've been using the DampRid you can buy in the grocery store for my safe. Anybody else use it. Less expensive than the moisture absorbers sold specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: the way I see it
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Makes for corrosive salt solution when combined with water vapor in your safe.

Would not be a fan of that. Mix of sodium chloride, calcium chloride, and potassium chloride and mixed with water vapor over time would be about the same as using corrosive ammo in an enclosed area like a safe.

Go to Michaels or Hobby Lobby, buy their bulk flower dessicant granules and use those. You can reheat them in an oven as needed and reuse countless times.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:18 PM (WDjG6)

36
I just read that the Americans were staging an historic comeback in the Ryder Cup and then threw it away. Victory Europa.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 28, 2025 07:19 PM (n7CIX)

37 Not to harsh anyone’s mellow jello, but with crazy shootings being ramped up to anywhere and everywhere, the time for concealed carry is now.

This has been an AOS GT PSA.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:20 PM (8T3Xj)

38 Good afternoon and thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 28, 2025 07:20 PM (tT6L1)

39 But his he had to insert from the cylinder end of the barrel, making it a little more problematic.
Posted by: GWB

Exactly. Luckily, I was able to use two short 1/4" drive extensions to push it out. I know, not the best to use.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:21 PM (Q9Vcs)

40 With. One of my friends said I was doing it wrong, and needed to extend the bayonet, which I did, but of course the barrel was already hot, so it was a delicate procedure.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Friend is wise. Back in the day, they were usually zeroed with them open. As the POI changes when closed and worse if the bayonet is absent altogether. SKS with their foldouts suffered the same issue.

Dunno if you have the actual .268 bullets but now and again Grafs and Sons gets Hornady to do a special run of true .268 bullets loaded as ammo for the Carcano. Bore is oversized for true 6.5 bullets.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:21 PM (WDjG6)

41 Any cigar news to share this week?

Posted by: YellowBird at September 28, 2025 07:22 PM (MEbkQ)

42 I haven't selected the 9mm handgun yet. One of these Saturdays I'll make it over to trader Jerry's to scope out their stock and consider a trade in or 2.

Posted by: sTevo at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (CWGlO)

43 I just have one thing to say to a bunch of you here----SOON!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (kurEY)

44 36
I just read that the Americans were staging an historic comeback in the Ryder Cup and then threw it away. Victory Europa.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Maybe if they had given a shit about the Ryder Cup on Friday and Saturday, they'd have a better shot, but nah. Thankfully, its football season and nobody in the US noticed.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (hyDPU)

45 Lots of crazy people are making bad decisions these days. It's a sad state of affairs.

Posted by: sTevo at September 28, 2025 07:25 PM (CWGlO)

46 And here I thought I was an hour + late.
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:13 PM

Still 13 minutes late. By self-admission, you weren't perusing the content.

Permanent Record Entry recommended.

Posted by: Duncanthrax, a mid-tier AoSHQ commenter, according to Grok at September 28, 2025 07:26 PM (0sNs1)

47 Dunno if you have the actual .268 bullets but now and again Grafs and Sons gets Hornady to do a special run of true .268 bullets loaded as ammo for the Carcano. Bore is oversized for true 6.5 bullets.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:21 PM (WDjG6)
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I have what the commercial guys use.

There are a few rifles that did that, assuming the bayonet would be fixed. I didn't notice a difference between the two. It's so small that it took a bit of effort to find a consistent cheek weld. Like all American GIs, I wanted to pull it into my face, but I kept catching myself, thereby avoiding a bloody nose.

I bet the bigger 91s have pretty light recoil. My daughter loves the 6.5mm Arisaka. Feels just right to her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 07:26 PM (ZOv7s)

48 just have one thing to say to a bunch of you here----SOON!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (kurEY)

Where does the line start for hugs till you say uncle?

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:27 PM (8T3Xj)

49 What's the biggest sidearm with a binary trigger?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:06 PM

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Triggers that identify as non-binary at September 28, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1)

50 And with that, range report. Well, two range reports. One I can only mention.

One of our local ranges hosted the area II Championship for Steel Challenge. It's my understanding, overall, the participants were pleased with the way things were handled.

I didn't participate but I did notice some top ranked shooters were there. We had one guy clock a sub 2 second run drawing from a holster. Usually, those kinds of times are run by people shooting 22 rifle.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 28, 2025 07:28 PM (tT6L1)

51 Weasel - I appreciate you pulling this together each week. It must, after a while, be a chore. I read it each week and appreciate all you do.

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:28 PM (t+VLa)

52 Good evening everyone.

Sorry, no range report from me. For 10 days I was in places that frown upon or down right ban ones right to keep and bear arms. And the other days I was just to drained from jet lag to want to do anything else.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:29 PM (Jm6kM)

53 For all Morons in the DC Metro area, the November Chantilly gun show will likely be the last one for some time to come. IKEA bought out the current landlord of the Dulles Expo Center (the event venue). Construction will begin in December. In case you're interested in going to what's currently one of the top five gun shows in the country, mark down November 21-23 on your calendar. So far, the organizers have not announced another venue.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 07:29 PM (BCwQW)

54 What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Triggers that identify as non-binary at September 28, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1)
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Does that count as a trigger warning?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 07:30 PM (ZOv7s)

55 No range report this week, but in gub-related news, I've acquired a new toy that I look forward to bringing to the range soon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:30 PM (Wnv9h)

56 GWB,

Usually better to push it through the forcing cone from the muzzle. Hopefully it was lead instead of jacketed.

Take the cylinder out totally if you absolutely have to do it from the forcing cone side of the revolver barrel instead of the muzzle. I have seen people use something like a muzzleloading worm to screw into the base of the bullet and ratchet it out but that might damage the barrel worse than simply tapping it back into barrel past the forcing cone from the barrel.

And then oil the barrel obstruction thoroughly with a light penetrating oil, tap tap tap with something like a jeweler's hammer.

Once had a wadcutter bullet stick in the forcing cone and that required a jeweler's saw to saw the bullet in half first and then, push the rest out from the muzzle end.

I have shorter brass punches that can be serviceable for removing obstructed handgun barrels. But less problems with shorter rods or even wood dowels causing issues if the distance is short to push a bullet out from a handgun barrel.

Similar to cleaning rod issues. Longer bores need rods that do not flex much, shorter bores can take crappier rods especially the cheap jointed rod cleaning kits.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:30 PM (WDjG6)

57 Also - I am half way through a Romeo Y Julieta cigar (the Romeo San Andres by RyJ). It's a robusto (and darn tasty) but it's got a punch!

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:31 PM (t+VLa)

58 Posted by: sTevo at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (CWGlO)

Don't forget 1) spare magazines (I recommend six or more), 2) ammo for both practice and defense, and 3) a magazine loading tool. Your fingers will thank you in advance for this.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 07:32 PM (BCwQW)

59 36 I just read that the Americans were staging an historic comeback in the Ryder Cup and then threw it away. Victory Europa.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 28, 2025 07:19 PM

I did not watch at all today. Very let down by the Americans playing.

Bethpage Black is a course I played a number of times, before and after it hosted the US Opens, so it was a pleasure watching all the players play that course.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:33 PM (Jm6kM)

60 Prvi and the rest, last time I checked, use .264 bullets so you can always blame a bigger group on the darn incorrect bullets.

I used to see old pulled Italian milsurp bullets sold in batches on Gunbroker but haven't checked in years.

Cast bullets, sized properly, and handloaded with the CH Harris The Load, those Carcanos can be very accurate and very mild reporting at short range 50-100 yd or so.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:34 PM (WDjG6)

61 Magazine loading tool? Fingers?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:34 PM (wI5E1)

62 Still 13 minutes late. By self-admission, you weren't perusing the content.

Permanent Record Entry recommended.
Posted by: Duncanthrax, a mid-tier AoSHQ commenter, according to Grok at September 28, 2025 07:26 PM (0sNs1)

Non-hearsay. An admission against interest.

*oh shut up you are retired you fool*

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:36 PM (lizTx)

63 Whig - You responded to my .303 British problems about 2 years ago (the spring that held my magazine in broke).

I fixed it about 8 months ago with a friend of mine and we're going to try it out next weekend for the first time. I'll fill you in on how it goes, but please know your advice and instructions were invaluable (especially the bit about fully removing the buttstock before proceeding... key).

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:36 PM (t+VLa)

64 Magazine loading tool? Fingers?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:34 PM (wI5E1)

Small children.

Posted by: Helpful at September 28, 2025 07:36 PM (zZu0s)

65 i imagine tkea really pulls in the dollars.

Posted by: Eromero at September 28, 2025 07:37 PM (LHPAg)

66 Just got here and thrilled to see that the safety briefing is at 10 am on Friday. Thank you!
I had dropped off my new Glock 48 with sight at the range because I was having problems with jams and i knew it needed to be cleaned so figured I'd check it out. I picked it up today and when the guy brought it out, he told me he thought it was my grip that ws the problem and mentioned FUNDAMENTALS.
So, worked on grip today but still had issues with mags needed to be cleaned as well as my original G48. Procrastinating is not working.
Really liked the 32 that Ed brought today. Fit my hand, no recoil, had great groups at 5 and 7 yards. Wouldn;t mind owning one of those.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 07:37 PM (t/2Uw)

67 "20 bullets in the same hole at 300 yards"

* smiles *

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at September 28, 2025 07:38 PM (0sNs1)

68 Exactly. Luckily, I was able to use two short 1/4" drive extensions to push it out. I know, not the best to use.
Posted by: rickb223

Rare occurrence but avoided a trip to the gunsmith. Ace, btw, usually has brass rods fairly inexpensive that work pretty well and easy to cut to length with a hacksaw if needed. Brass punches also works.

But I would go from teh muzzle myself as easier myself as the bullet was already engraved a bit by the bore when it stuck. So pushing it back through is not an issue with the forcing cone that you might think. Especially if obstruction is oiled on both sides with penetrating oil first. Makes a mess but the oil makes it a helluva lot easier to overcome the initial resistance.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:40 PM (WDjG6)

69 Thanks again for the great content Weasel!

Question: Has anyone here done their own AR-15
trigger job? And by "trigger job", I mean polishing the contact services of the sear and other parts of the stock military type trigger group.

I did this last night and tested the results at the range this afternoon -- the results were mixed: trigger pull was definitely less gritty, but still slow, creepy and heavy at about 6 lbs.

Fwiw, I used used small pieces of #600, 1000 , 1500 and then 2000 grit paper, in that order, laid over an old razor blade, so as to keep the abrasive surface flat and avoid "rounding" any of the contact services on the trigger parts.

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who has done this and what kind of results they got . . . of course, anyone can just drop in a nice timney trigger but where's the fun in that? :-)

Posted by: Pooklord at September 28, 2025 07:42 PM (asU3w)

70 Magazine loading tool? Fingers?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:34 PM

Maglula Uplula is the one you want.

Buy it, if possible from a store, or online from a store (e.g. Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops, Academy, etc.). The reason being there are fakes which don't work as well (if at all) that you will get ordering from eBay, the 'Zon, etc.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:42 PM (0sNs1)

71 And, with that, it was silhouette match time. I did my usual, headed the day before, checked my elevations, etc, they were good. However, I've switched from trying to get out early to avoid wind, to heading out whenever so I can practice under different conditions. What's odd, though, is I've gone from being surprised when I hit at 500 meters to being surprised when I miss.

Yesterday, we had interesting conditions. Wind on the firing line, but, the wind was only hitting us for the first 100 yards or so, because the silhouettes are all below us and sit down a bit, while we're up on a berm.

I started off well, went 9 for 9, missing the 10th target. Darn, But, I picked myself up and went 4 for 5 on the next set. 500 meters, though, completely messed me up. I mistook a rifle set up issue for an elevation issue, which cost me four targets. Still though, I'm heading in the right direction, going 13 of 15 @ 200, 300 and 400 meters. Even better, when I looked at the steel afterword, I could see I was hitting where I expected.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 28, 2025 07:43 PM (tT6L1)

72 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 07:37 PM (t/2Uw)

The 32 Sharon shot today was a Walther PPK.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)

73 Rare occurrence but avoided a trip to the gunsmith. Ace, btw, usually has brass rods fairly inexpensive that work pretty well and easy to cut to length with a hacksaw if needed. Brass punches also works.

I will have to get some brass rods for a "just in case".

If it hadn't been sticking halfway out of the front barrel, i might have knocked it backwards. I only needed to tap it far enough out that channel locks could grab it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 07:45 PM (Q9Vcs)

74 So... personal checks will not be accepted at the MoMe?

Or will Sharon shoot the gun out of my hand?

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:45 PM (Dvcu+)

75 I fixed it about 8 months ago with a friend of mine and we're going to try it out next weekend for the first time. I'll fill you in on how it goes, but please know your advice and instructions were invaluable (especially the bit about fully removing the buttstock before proceeding... key).
Posted by: 496

Glad for you. Cannot remember whether you have a No. 4 or old SMLE aka No. 1 Mk. 3. If you have SMLE, you can purchase for a little amount of cash, an auxiliary mag spring from Apex Gun Parts for it. It can help avoid feeding issues as the auxiliary mag spring attaches to the front edge of the magazine and goes inside the mag well. Cost 2.50 and in stock as I just checked. Think it can be used with No. 4 rifle mags but not sure.

SKU ENF-2166

And a reminder to any Enfield folks out there (not the P14 though), always remove the buttstock and screw first before you dismount the forend. If you don't, the buttstock screw will mess up your forend which is a pita to repair.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:46 PM (WDjG6)

76 the Ryder Cup
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (hyDPU)

Is that the big bicycling race?

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:47 PM (Dvcu+)

77 I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who has done this and what kind of results they got . . . of course, anyone can just drop in a nice timney trigger but where's the fun in that? :-)
Posted by: Pooklord at September 28, 2025 07:42 PM (asU3w)

I believe I’ve done it with metal polish (Flitz?) and a felt tip on a dremel. I do it on most all feed ramps and trigger surfaces to smooth out small manufacturing humps and bumps. Results are noticeable.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM (fz7Mb)

78 The Ryder Cup is kickball?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM (wI5E1)

79 Hey all y'all - I had to make an unexpected trip out of town this weekend, so I won't be around in the comments tonight. Behave yourselves!

Thx again CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM (ME4A9)

80 My gold standard 5.56 is IMI.

Posted by: Eromero at September 28, 2025 07:50 PM (LHPAg)

81 Peace out, Weasel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:50 PM (Wnv9h)

82 How do the people in movies never need to reload?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (wI5E1)

83 Whig - I bought an extra mag-retention spring.

The last one lasted 80+ years, so if anyone out there needs one I can loan you one. Mine is probably good for life.

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (t+VLa)

84 Whig, thanks again for the tip about that .32 ACP special sale at AIM Surplus. I ordered another batch of a dozen 25 round boxes this week for the .32's I plan on bringing to TX. If anyone else needs .32 ACP, that sale is still going as of tonight at $6.95 each for a 25-round box.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (BCwQW)

85 I also want to reiterate the TXMoMe is not a gun thing with some socializing attached, but rather is a social thing with some shooting attached.

Well, it’s more like 50/50. Socialized shooting with socialized beverages thereafter. And lots more socializing.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (fz7Mb)

86 79 Thx again CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM

Are you thanking him for you having to take an unexpected trip?
Or for acting as a substitute COB assigned to overlook us?

(starts assembling spit balls)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (Jm6kM)

87 Oh crap! CBD is in charge! Tuck in your shirts, suck in that gut, and throw away those empties! We're in for it!

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:52 PM (t+VLa)

88 Or for acting as a substitute COB assigned to overlook us?

(starts assembling spit balls)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM

Make sure they measure .355" in diameter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)

89 Maglula Uplula is the one you want.

Buy it, if possible from a store, or online from a store (e.g. Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops, Academy, etc.). The reason being there are fakes which don't work as well (if at all) that you will get ordering from eBay, the 'Zon, etc.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:42 PM (0sNs1)

There is iron in the words of Duncanthrax!

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 28, 2025 07:53 PM (hOUT3)

90 87 Oh crap! CBD is in charge! Tuck in your shirts, suck in that gut, and throw away those empties! We're in for it!

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:52 PM

I heard that if you bathe in maple syrup he cannot hurt you.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:54 PM (Jm6kM)

91 lost my mag loader, actually two mag loaders so just checked Amazon and the Maglula are $40! I don't think I paid that much but I don;t see the ones I bought before. Anyone have a better option?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 07:54 PM (t/2Uw)

92 I guess cup and saucer is out if you have the 100 round glock magazine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:54 PM (wI5E1)

93 88 Make sure they measure .355" in diameter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:53 PM

(starts to measure the diameter of a plastic drinking straw as I do NOT live in California)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:55 PM (Jm6kM)

94 I heard that if you bathe in maple syrup he cannot hurt you.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:54 PM (Jm6kM)
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As a Vermonter, I bathe in maple syrup daily anyway. Still, I'm not taking chances.

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:56 PM (t+VLa)

95 So how does one get an "unexpected" trip outta town without Mrs D finding out?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:56 PM (Nevqq)

96 Grand Blanc is what big white?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:56 PM (wI5E1)

97 Question: Has anyone here done their own AR-15
trigger job? And by "trigger job", I mean polishing the contact services of the sear and other parts of the stock military type trigger group.
Posted by: Pooklord
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Not a fan of doing trigger jobs on ARs. Their components have a very thin hard layer and much softer material inside on sear components and easy to cut through the hard layer. Then you get abnormal and accelerated wear. I learned on old case hardened triggers like Mausers, Springfields, and even revolvers and the thing that must not be done is polish through the hardened layers on trigger components.

If you must do this, consider getting Spyderco Waterstone synthetic stones that are designed for trigger work. India and Ouachita stones will work but messy and ideally using a jig to hold parts in correct orientation. Those are available btw for teh AR trigger group. Try Brownells for both components.

The other option Anderson made stainless steel trigger components which were cast rather than forged (non mil spec). Stainless has more lubricity than regular steel and cast stainless means same hardness throughout. Takes polishing well.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:56 PM (WDjG6)

98 A detail addressing comments 20, 28, 35 and ones i haven’t seen yet.
i use a seriously nifty thing called Eva-Dry.
it is full of desiccant beads that are blue when ready to rock. There’s a small minnow on the front so you can see the.
As they absorb moisture, the beads turn clear.It has a plug on the back that flips out, and you plug it in to recharge.. The beads turn blue again, and back in the safe it goes. Works great. i employ 2 of them. 1 at the top, and one at the bottom.
i also have another canister of dessicant beads that you put on the oven to recharge. the Eva-Dry units work so well, that they have actually recharged this canister with out a trip to the oven.

Oh, and the TX extravaganza? All my details are set.
I’m coming! I’m coming!

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 28, 2025 07:56 PM (7hdjp)

99 Oh crap! CBD is in charge! Tuck in your shirts, suck in that gut, and throw away those empties! We're in for it!
Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:52 PM (t+VLa)

100 comment rule!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Nevqq)

100 100?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Jm6kM)

101 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread aficionados!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (o46Y5)

102 Scoobs, hope you have recovered from your European Vacation and that you have carefully washed all the France off of you.

It could affect your aim.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (fz7Mb)

103 100 100?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM

Yes!!!! (pumps fist)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (Jm6kM)

104 A cheap and easy solution is Sentry BP-2000 which can remove grit on sear and trigger surfaces. Dry lube using molybdenum powder which frankly makes a mess on initial application but smooths any metal to metal surfaces on handguns and is pretty durable until you use cleaning solvents on the surfaces. Then it requires reapplication.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (WDjG6)

105 lost my mag loader, actually two mag loaders so just checked Amazon and the Maglula are $40! I don't think I paid that much but I don;t see the ones I bought before. Anyone have a better option?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 07:54 PM

Maglula Uplulas are $34.99 at both PSA and Cabela's.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (0sNs1)

106 Really liked the 32 that Ed brought today. Fit my hand, no recoil, had great groups at 5 and 7 yards. Wouldn;t mind owning one of those.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 07:37 PM

The little PPK with the can? I love that thing. Great groups.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)

107 had to make an unexpected trip out of town this weekend,
Posted by: Weasel at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM (ME4A9)

I hope it has nothing to do with the injuries lately.
I hope both WW and FSJ are doing better.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (Dvcu+)

108 India and Ouachita stones will work but messy and ideally using a jig to hold parts in correct orientation.
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The first time I saw Ouachita I pronounced it Oooh-ah-cheet-ah.

Based on the responses I got, I'm not 100% sure that's the proper pronunciation

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (t+VLa)

109 Common sense lunatic control.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:59 PM (wI5E1)

110 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread aficionados!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (o46yo.

Yo.
Get your pants on. Apparently CBD is in charge.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:59 PM (Nevqq)

111 100 comment rule!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Nevqq)
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Hello barrel my old friend...

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:59 PM (t+VLa)

112 102 Scoobs, hope you have recovered from your European Vacation and that you have carefully washed all the France off of you.

It could affect your aim.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM

The story I could tell about my 2 days in Paris. :-)

I did have a most delicious dinner at a restaurant that CBD suggested. The oysters were soooooo good, I should have ordered a dozen and not the 6 that I did.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 08:00 PM (Jm6kM)

113 Just finished an Aganorsa Leaf Arsenio. Toro sized, Nicaraguan purple. Almost sweet. I’d buy another

Posted by: YellowBird at September 28, 2025 08:01 PM (MEbkQ)

114 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special wristband-bearing greeting to our host Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 08:01 PM (v23vE)

115 Make sure they measure .355" in diameter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 07:53 PM

(starts to measure the diameter of a plastic drinking straw as I do NOT live in California)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:55 PM

.355" is CBD's favorite diameter. You will simultaneously curry favor and avoid distasteful wrath if you choose it.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)

116
the Ryder Cup
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 07:23 PM (hyDPU)

Is that the big bicycling race?
Posted by: GWB

==============

I have no idea, I just saw it on X.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 28, 2025 08:01 PM (n7CIX)

117 24 I, of course, was a non-conformist, putting my Carcano Moschetto through its paces.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I have one f those. Hard to find ammo.

Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:02 PM (8I4hW)

118 100 comment rule!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Nevqq)
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Hello barrel my old friend...
Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:59 PM (t+VLa)

***

Mrs D burned the French toast this morning. A sufficient sacrifice me thinks.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 08:02 PM (Nevqq)

119 The little PPK with the can? I love that thing. Great groups.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)

Nope. The straight up .32 ACP PPK w/o any frills. The threaded barrel model is the PPK/S SD. It as a longer grip and (of course) the factory threaded barrel for a suppressor.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 08:02 PM (BCwQW)

120 My favorite Maglula Uplula color is pink.

* Nobody * ever steals pink.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:02 PM (0sNs1)

121 Nope. The straight up .32 ACP PPK w/o any frills. The threaded barrel model is the PPK/S SD. It as a longer grip and (of course) the factory threaded barrel for a suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 08:02 PM

*sigh*

Saw a nice little PP in .22 this afternoon while shopping for the new gub. Sweet little piece.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:04 PM (Wnv9h)

122 Saw a nice little PP in .22 this afternoon while shopping for the new gub. Sweet little piece.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:04 PM (Wnv9h)

Cmon, fess up. What did you get?

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM (fz7Mb)

123 99 Oh crap! CBD is in charge! Tuck in your shirts, suck in that gut, and throw away those empties! We're in for it!
Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 07:52 PM (t+VLa)

100 comment rule!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Nevqq)

100 100?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 07:57 PM (Jm6kM)

Somehow that's poetic.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM (Dvcu+)

124 It wound up half in and half out of the barrel. It was fun trying to find stuff small enough to fit down the barrel to tap it out far enough so I could grab it with pliers.
Posted by: rickb223

Not exactly something somebody has around, but in the Army when we were bored on training missions we would put cleaning rods in the barrel and shoot blanks (blank adapter removed, natch). Might be useful for dislodging a squib, but fairly sure nobody really has blanks around for all their calibers. Something to think about tho.

Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM (Z6vKV)

125 in the Army when we were bored on training missions we would put cleaning rods in the barrel and shoot blanks (blank adapter removed, natch). Might be useful for dislodging a squib, but fairly sure nobody really has blanks around for all their calibers. Something to think about tho.
Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM (Z6vKV)
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Siri - Why do women live longer than men?

Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 08:07 PM (t+VLa)

126 One of the best trigger job videos is by Jerry Miculek on how to do S&W revolver trigger jobs. His FIL was a famous gunsmith and Jerry himself has done a lick or two to slick up guns via gunsmithing.

Some of the discussion deals specifically with S&W revolvers but useful for understanding what is involved with DIY trigger jobs. Something to guarantee correct geometry usually for us mortals, a jig, correct tools, and understanding materials.

I have somewhere down in my parts stash, a butchered Mauser rifle sear where someone tried to make the military Mauser sear into a single stage trigger. That means grinding one of the two humps in the sear and second, Mauser sears were case hardened so as to function well. Grinding the hump clearly exceeded the exterior of the case hardening into the softer core. Fortunately, I had about ten Mauser sears (bought all of them used as an assortment of m98 sears) so I could discard the bad one.

But had I mounted it on an action, the trigger would not have been safe and had a crappy action to it also as Military Mausers are classic two stage triggers, partly for safety, partly to allow good shots to stage the trigger for fine work.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:08 PM (WDjG6)

127 but in the Army when we were bored on training missions we would put cleaning rods in the barrel and shoot blanks (blank adapter removed, natch).
Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM

Did your SFCs and CSMs reward you extra leave passes?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:09 PM (0sNs1)

128 I should have ordered a dozen and not the 6 that I did.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 28, 2025 08:00 PM (Jm6kM)

Just don't order douze "douzaine d'huîtres" as someone I know did. Because they knew French, dangit.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:09 PM (Dvcu+)

129 Cmon, fess up. What did you get?
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:05 PM

Savage 110 Elite Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor. Came with a fixed 36X benchrest type scope. Looking forward to taking it out to play next weekend.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:10 PM (Wnv9h)

130 A cheap and easy solution is Sentry BP-2000 which can remove grit on sear and trigger surfaces. Dry lube using molybdenum powder which frankly makes a mess on initial application but smooths any metal to metal surfaces on handguns and is pretty durable until you use cleaning solvents on the surfaces. Then it requires reapplication.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:58 PM (WDjG6)

You can buy molybdenum disulfide spray, that consists of the moly and some sort of binder. Goes on like paint, and is pretty durable. If you spray with a suitable drop cloth, it is pretty non-messy to use.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:11 PM (o46Y5)

131 I have one f those. Hard to find ammo.
Posted by: javems
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Grafs and Sons in Missouri--Hornady makes special runs of brass and bullets for Grafs and loads it for them.

Prvi also makes it but with the wrong sized bullet aka .264 instead of .268. You can find that off and on at Aim Surplus among other Prvi sellers.

FWIW, Aim Surplus has a special on 7.5 Swiss below 1 buck per round. S&B I think.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:11 PM (WDjG6)

132 496, have not tried that cigar, adding it to the list.

Ditto to YellowBird, was not even aware of that item in Aganorsa's catelogue.

Just finished an El Rey del Mundo Shade Grown on the porch, watching the high stuff from the Blue Angels (visible from here, Miramar's not far away). May do a review of it in the future. Nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 08:12 PM (U/Byj)

133 Siri - Why do women live longer than men?
Posted by: 496 at September 28, 2025 08:07 PM (t+VLa)

This is not unique to today's Army. Officers on both sides in the trenches at Petersburg in 1864-65 witnessed soldiers placing ramrods from excess muskets into their weapons and shooting them across the no-mans-land to hear the strange "whirring" sound the ramrods made when fired through the air.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 08:12 PM (BCwQW)

134 Savage 110 Elite Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor. Came with a fixed 36X benchrest type scope. Looking forward to taking it out to play next weekend.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:10 PM

Dude. Did you ask us for advice?

Because if you had, we would have told you that a nice Savage 110 in 6.5CR *needs* a nice little .22LR pistol to go along with it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:12 PM (0sNs1)

135 Yo.
Get your pants on. Apparently CBD is in charge.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 07:59 PM (Nevqq)

I am wearing bib overalls. I think they count as pants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:13 PM (o46Y5)

136 USA should have begun the day with one point since one of the 12 matches was forfeited by Europe because of injury. But they have a stupid agreement that in case of injury ,prior to the match, would be considered a tie thus Europe got a half point without having to show up.

Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 08:13 PM (EYmYM)

137 Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel! No Mo-Me. Still too banged up. Sending some provisions instead.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 28, 2025 08:14 PM (IVjnz)

138 RMBS, had the grip exercise been of any help?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:14 PM (kurEY)

139 You can buy molybdenum disulfide spray, that consists of the moly and some sort of binder. Goes on like paint, and is pretty durable. If you spray with a suitable drop cloth, it is pretty non-messy to use.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Sentry used to sell moly solution with a needle applicator bottle. Basically they marketed it as trigger job in a bottle. I'd imagine that your solution would be much cheaper if messier.

Years ago I messed around with moly coated bullets and a moly bore just for fun. It works but eventually you have to clean to metal and start again. And you have to use nylon bore brushes if you use moly solutions in your barrel.

Like most people, mess wasn't worth it for that particular application.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:14 PM (WDjG6)

140 Savage 110 Elite Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor. Came with a fixed 36X benchrest type scope. Looking forward to taking it out to play next weekend.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:10 PM (Wnv9h)

You’d best bring that to TX so that we can QC it.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:15 PM (SbMCD)

141 There was a time when ammo using moly-coated bullets was the new, hip, and cool thing to use when breaking in a new barrel.

Knowing about this is a strong indicator you're not really 29.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:17 PM (0sNs1)

142 Weasel, is AR500 steel OK this year?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 28, 2025 08:17 PM (a4flb)

143 Sadly the Luger will not probably make it to this MoMe.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 28, 2025 08:17 PM (bPFPB)

144 Hey whig, thanks. Hope you get to feeling better

Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:17 PM (8I4hW)

145 Evenin’, All.

BOOBS!

Is that allowed on the Gun Thread?

Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM (77rzZ)

146 I saw the video on $5000 vs $500 1911's and, Lo and Behold, Palmetto State Armory had one of those $500 1911's on sale for $300, so I bought it.

Wasn't the firearm I was expecting to get as my first, but it's the one I got. As soon as it arrives. And I pay the FFL fees.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM (VmDLh)

147 DBCooper, can we make a date for next year?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:19 PM (kurEY)

148 Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel! No Mo-Me. Still too banged up. Sending some provisions instead.
Posted by: DBCooper at September 28, 2025 08:14 PM (IVjnz)

Well, if you able to spend a day or two riding in in a reclining car seat, I will be driving the Suburban from AJ to Corsicana; prolly overnite in Amarillo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:19 PM (o46Y5)

149 No range action but reloading factory is humming along. Several empty cans to fill. Checked and see that 30-06 (M1-suitable load) is now close to $1/round. Yikes. My cost is a fraction of that, partly thanks to stocking up on components years back.

Some more 30 carbine that a lot of 9mm after that. Probably will only be able to shoot the XD in the action matches if they keep going with a short par time. 1911, even without jams which should be solved by new springs for the mags and round-nosed bullets, is not suitable as 8-round mags and need to reload so much eats up too much time.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 08:19 PM (U/Byj)

150 This is not unique to today's Army. Officers on both sides in the trenches at Petersburg in 1864-65 witnessed soldiers placing ramrods from excess muskets into their weapons and shooting them across the no-mans-land to hear the strange "whirring" sound the ramrods made when fired through the air.
Posted by: Ed L

Had more than one person want to do a Civil War paintball scenario where you eould load a paintball one at a time fown the muzzle. After watching 600 fools the scenario promoter said "no way!" LOL
He knew they'd get over excited and and forget to pull the ramrod out and launch it like a javelin.

It might be ok during wartime, but it would never be ok for just a game.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 08:20 PM (Q9Vcs)

151 Did your SFCs and CSMs reward you extra leave passes?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

LOL....I ETS'd with all my fingers and all my stripes, that's all I'll say

Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 08:20 PM (Z6vKV)

152 Hi Ben Had! Yes! I sure Hope so!

Posted by: DBCooper at September 28, 2025 08:21 PM (IVjnz)

153 Thanks Duncanthrax, Bass Pro saved me $10. One's purple and the other is green. With two i got free shipping and I wanted two so that worked out fine.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 08:21 PM (t/2Uw)

154 AOP-

I have two plates in my left shoulder blade and 14 screws so reclining on anything doesn't work. Unfortunately.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 28, 2025 08:22 PM (IVjnz)

155 The first time I saw Ouachita I pronounced it Oooh-ah-cheet-ah.

Based on the responses I got, I'm not 100% sure that's the proper pronunciation
Posted by: 496

Washita--wash like clothes washing, it, a like in ah. Wash-it-ah. Saw Ryan Hall of Ryan Hall Y'all weather podcaster call it wash EE Tah. Made me laugh as I am from Arkansas.

The best Ouachita stones come from around Hot Springs, Arkansas vicinity which made some unusually fine quartz stone to be used efficiently in removing material. Still have to use oil but less messy than India Stones "carborundum" which you have to keep soaked in oil because brittle.

I use the Spyderco synthetic stones simply for convenience on a quick job because the lube is water instead of oil that you use with the other stones. Ouachita and Spyderco stones also hold their geometry better and I use the cheap imported India stones for rapid removal after filing or some other gross removal technique. They make harder and softer India stones but Ouachita is simply better for fine work of polishing rather than removal.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:22 PM (WDjG6)

156 BOOBS!
Is that allowed on the Gun Thread?
Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM

Depends. Some here are caliber agnostic, some are caliber snobs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:23 PM (0sNs1)

157 RMBS, had the grip exercise been of any help?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:14 PM

It has! The RMBS Mom is doing much better and keeping her shots tight.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:23 PM (Wnv9h)

158 AOP, if you get him to take up that offer I will make all necessary arrangements.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:23 PM (kurEY)

159 I've been using the DampRid you can buy in the grocery store for my safe. Anybody else use it. Less expensive than the moisture absorbers sold specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 07:12 PM

At the Texas MoMe two or three years ago, someone was giving away 500g bags of silaca gel desiccant. I made a pig of myself and took three, figuring it would be good for keeping spools of (3d printer) filament dry, but I'd been trying to figure out how I'm going to refresh it.

Well, it turns out that My Lady has a toaster oven. I put 150g of desiccant in it at a time, bake it at 250F for two hours, let it cool with the oven closed for half an hour, and it's good as new. I'm mixing it with some other desiccant beads I bought with indicator, so I know that it's refreshed.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:24 PM (VmDLh)

160 You’d best bring that to TX so that we can QC it.
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:15 PM

We'll see. I promised sharon some shots with my Model 70.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:25 PM (Wnv9h)

161 Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM (VmDLh)

Which manufacturer?

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:25 PM (Dvcu+)

162 RMBS, are you going with Federal Gold Medal Match 140s?

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:26 PM (jtjbl)

163 144 Hey whig, thanks. Hope you get to feeling better
Posted by: javems

Dunno. Had a weight bearing MRI last Thursday to indicate how bad my cervical spinal issues have gotten. In my case, the prognosis is continued decline and not much I can do about a deteriorating spine other than keeping limber and doing some particular exercises used to strengthen back muscles to hold the deteriorating spine in place.

Thanks for asking and I know you had some health issues yourself. Hope yours have gone away.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:26 PM (WDjG6)

164 The best Ouachita stones come from around Hot Springs, Arkansas vicinity which made some unusually fine quartz stone to be used efficiently in removing material. Still have to use oil but less messy than India Stones "carborundum" which you have to keep soaked in oil because brittle.

Posted by: whig

You can't swing a dead cat around Hot Springs and not hit a tourist trap that doesn't sell Ouachita stones. They are good stones.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 08:27 PM (Q9Vcs)

165 BOOBS

38s

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 28, 2025 08:27 PM (c/7nx)

166 Wouldn’t 45s be better?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 28, 2025 08:28 PM (7hdjp)

167 I have two plates in my left shoulder blade and 14 screws so reclining on anything doesn't work. Unfortunately.
Posted by: DBCooper at September 28, 2025 08:22 PM (IVjnz)

Bungee cords on the roof rack right out? Seriously, get well soon!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:28 PM (o46Y5)

168 RMBS, will sacrifice and get up early Saturday so I can spend time on the rifle range.Looking forward to it. Also bringing the G44 in 22 for Mom to try. She can try the 9mm too and with the thinner grip might like it as much as I do.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 08:28 PM (t/2Uw)

169 BOOBS

38s
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 28, 2025 08:27 PM (c/7nx)

.338

.22

.38

Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 08:28 PM (EYmYM)

170 BOOBS!
Is that allowed on the Gun Thread?
Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM

Depends. Some here are caliber agnostic, some are caliber snobs.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I like 22's & 38's over 44's.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 08:29 PM (Q9Vcs)

171 Rhomboid - the Arsenio seems to be a limited run. Found at Small Batch, FWIW. Surprised me how nice it was.

I’ve had some very nice El Rey del Mundos, but not the shade grown. Have to go looking. Thx

Posted by: YellowBird at September 28, 2025 08:29 PM (MEbkQ)

172 Thanks Duncanthrax, Bass Pro saved me $10. One's purple and the other is green. With two i got free shipping and I wanted two so that worked out fine.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 08:21 PM

* thumbs up *

I was surprised PSA's price equaled Cabela's/BPS. $34.99 may be minimum the mfg. allows.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:30 PM (0sNs1)

173 You can't swing a dead cat around Hot Springs and not hit a tourist trap that doesn't sell Ouachita stones. They are good stones.
Posted by: rickb223
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Really good for polishing trigger components or putting a fine edge on knives. Recently though, I use my Ouachita bench and other stones for sharpening wood chisels, planer blades, etc.

Getting to where it is difficult to use either as grip strength on dominant hand has weakened substantially due to nerve compression. I'll have to start doing more with my left which doesn't have that issue so far.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:30 PM (WDjG6)

174 "At the Texas MoMe two or three years ago, someone was giving away 500g bags of silaca gel desiccant."

That was me and I will bring more this year. Yes, you can dry it out in the oven.

Posted by: fd at September 28, 2025 08:30 PM (vFG9F)

175 Housekeeping, Is there anybody here that is planning on coming to the MOMe that has not received directions yet?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:31 PM (kurEY)

176 the deteriorating spine in place
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:26 PM (WDjG6)

You know, they sell plastic skeletons all over the place. You'd think they could 3D print some disks and give you a bionic back.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:31 PM (Dvcu+)

177 Whig, when I had the first MRI when they were trying to figure out what was wrong, I had some cervical issues but back never bothered me. The Dr thought it was probably due to the lap swimming. If you have a place nearby that may be solution to get exercise without hurting yourself.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (t/2Uw)

178 Prvi and the rest, last time I checked, use .264 bullets so you can always blame a bigger group on the darn incorrect bullets.

I used to see old pulled Italian milsurp bullets sold in batches on Gunbroker but haven't checked in years.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 07:34 PM (WDjG6)
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I always blame faulty ammo. Always.

When I got the Carcano, the seller gave me a clip of WW II surplus ammo. Six rounds. He said it was one of the last bits of an ancient stash, and swore it shot extremely well.

I've set it aside as a curiosity.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (ZOv7s)

179 I notice CBD is not saying much. Prolly trying to keep the comment count down.
Conflict of interest, to be sure.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (jtjbl)

180 14 Guys with gubs are moving into Portland.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (KWyxI)

8 Looks like fun
Posted by: Rancherbob at September 28, 2025 07:02 PM (Cp8Ff)

Use the butt of your rifle, soldier.

Posted by: Helpful at September 28, 2025 07:08 PM (zZu0s)

I sure hope these guys are trained in riot control.

I remember a photo I saw of the 1968 Chicago riots. There were two guard troops stopping a car, one was in front pointing his rifle at the driver and the other half way in the rear window, pointing his M-79 at passengers in the back.

The M-79 is a 40mm grenade launcher. It would have killed whomever it was pointed at from just kinetic energy. The rounds don't arm themselves until they travel a certain distance, 35 meters maybe from memory

Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (8I4hW)

181 Exoskeleton for whig.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (kurEY)

182 You can't swing a dead cat around Hot Springs and not hit a tourist trap that doesn't sell Ouachita stones. They are good stones.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 08:27 PM (Q9Vcs)

Ouachita stone is also known as "Arkansas Novaculite" and is a type of chert comprised of sponge spicules and radiolaria, with very little in the way of clay minerals.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:33 PM (o46Y5)

183 Eh, guess I’ll tune in later when I don’t have to wade through all the jargon to turn the Gun Thread into a boob thread.

The Gun Thread is, apparently, the only one that can’t be turned into a boob thread.

Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:33 PM (77rzZ)

184 When I got the Carcano, the seller gave me a clip of WW II surplus ammo. Six rounds. He said it was one of the last bits of an ancient stash, and swore it shot extremely well.

I've set it aside as a curiosity.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Ammo clips for the Carcano are also getting scarce on the ground nowadays. Pretty much necessary for any Mannlicher style action. Same thing for Berthier 5 round clips (the three rounds are around more), and older Austrian-Hungary Mannlichers.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:34 PM (WDjG6)

185 Housekeeping, Is there anybody here that is planning on coming to the MOMe that has not received directions yet?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:31 PM (kurEY)

I don't think I've emailed anyone about it. It's been a long couple of weeks for me.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:35 PM (Dvcu+)

186 Hey Whig, thanks for the all the info regarding trigger jobs -- I know realize how much I did not know!

Actually, I was a bit concerned about going through and wrecking those thin hardend surfaces, which is why I did not do much polishing last night -- it was very mild. Any more and I would have been changing the shape of the contact surfaces.

I don't think I will do any more that way for the concerns and issues you mentioned. I do think a jig would be necessary. I'll check out brownells and some of the other sources you mentioned.

Posted by: Pooklord at September 28, 2025 08:35 PM (asU3w)

187 Ben Had, because I’m stupid, maybe send me directions from Mexia. I’m sure I could eventually find it, but I might as well do belt and suspenders.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:35 PM (jtjbl)

188 Evenin’, All.

BOOBS!

Is that allowed on the Gun Thread?
Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:18 PM (77rzZ)
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Boobs are very much welcome, but visible cleavage is a hazard and must be addressed for safety reasons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:36 PM (ZOv7s)

189 181 Exoskeleton for whig.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Even a 2x4 duct taped to my spine might help. I'll be a shorter man when all of the disks disappear as they appear likely to do in the future.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:36 PM (WDjG6)

190 The M-79 is a 40mm grenade launcher. It would have killed whomever it was pointed at from just kinetic energy. The rounds don't arm themselves until they travel a certain distance, 35 meters maybe from memory
Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (8I4hW)

Nevertheless, it probably made for exemplary behavior on the part of the back set passengers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:36 PM (o46Y5)

191 Thx again CBD.

Posted by: Weasel at September 28, 2025 07:48 PM (ME4A9)

That RI Red fellow is talking some shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 08:37 PM (n9ltV)

192 favorite Maglula Uplula color is pink.

* Nobody * ever steals pink.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Is that the one I "lost" last year????

Posted by: lin-duh: I'm offended! at September 28, 2025 08:37 PM (UwBs6)

193 Which manufacturer?
Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:25 PM

It's a Tisas. Of Turkish manufacture, or so I'm given to believe.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (VmDLh)

194 Didn't have a mag loader for years (except the one that came with the 9mm XD), but I like the Maglula now that I have one. Especially handy at matches where you have to reload mags between stages and time can be short. Highly recommend.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (U/Byj)

195 The M-79 is a 40mm grenade launcher. It would have killed whomever it was pointed at from just kinetic energy. The rounds don't arm themselves until they travel a certain distance, 35 meters maybe from memory
Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (8I4hW)

Nevertheless, it probably made for exemplary behavior on the part of the back set passengers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 28, 2025 08:36 PM (o46Y5)

And I'm telling you, son, well, it ain't no fun Staring straight down a forty-four... errr, a 40mm.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (Dvcu+)

196 82 How do the people in movies never need to reload?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (wI5E1)

Next you'll ask why most actors firing single-action revolvers never need to cock the hammer between shots.

Posted by: Gref at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (5rh/l)

197 That RI Red fellow is talking some shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 08:37 PM (n9ltV)

Merde, I say!

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:39 PM (jtjbl)

198 RI Red, I will get the shortcut FM roads to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:39 PM (kurEY)

199 Ammo clips for the Carcano are also getting scarce on the ground nowadays. Pretty much necessary for any Mannlicher style action. Same thing for Berthier 5 round clips (the three rounds are around more), and older Austrian-Hungary Mannlichers.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:34 PM (WDjG6)
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I've got two, and for plinking, that's enough.

Funny that Broomhandle clips are so easy to find. I guess we all need to have a full combat loadout ala Winston before heading to the range.

I have to say, whenever I hear of someone converting a 7.63mm to 9mm, I die a little inside.

If you aren't letting that bottle-neck rip, you are missing most of the fun.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:39 PM (ZOv7s)

200 RMBS, are you going with Federal Gold Medal Match 140s?

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:26 PM (jtjbl)

Obviously every rifle is different, but the Norma Golden Target 143 grain shoots great out of my Savage EP.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 08:39 PM (n9ltV)

201 It's a Tisas. Of Turkish manufacture, or so I'm given to believe.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (VmDLh)

Yes. And those are almost always on sale for less than $500. But I hear they are decent 1911s.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM (Dvcu+)

202 I remember a photo I saw of the 1968 Chicago riots. There were two guard troops stopping a car, one was in front pointing his rifle at the driver and the other half way in the rear window, pointing his M-79 at passengers in the back.

The M-79 is a 40mm grenade launcher. It would have killed whomever it was pointed at from just kinetic energy. The rounds don't arm themselves until they travel a certain distance, 35 meters maybe from memory
Posted by: javems at September 28, 2025 08:32 PM (8I4hW)

During the Vietnam era, M79 grenadiers had buckshot rounds available for close quarters combat. I think each one was loaded w/ 20 or so 00 buckshot. That would have utterly shredded the back seat passengers at close range.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM (BCwQW)

203 Boss Moss, John Wick reloads every time on the exact shot count.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM (kurEY)

204 Is that the one I "lost" last year????
Posted by: lin-duh: I'm offended! at September 28, 2025 08:37 PM

Since neither I nor Ace (the TXMoMe cat) were there, please don't look askance at us.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM (0sNs1)

205 There were still some Garand en bloc clip loaders out there, last I checked. Originals. Kind of like one of those counter-top juicers, big handle, vertical. Worked like a charm in the video I recall seeing.

Wish I had the need for such a labor-saving device for loading en blocs, but alas I do not shoot the M1s *that* much.

There is an easy technique for loading the en blocs. Start with 5 rounds, get them more/less correctly loaded, easy to hold in place, then add the final three rounds individually. Make sure to snap the grooves on the cases down into place from the start.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 08:41 PM (U/Byj)

206 Banana Ball just ended their 2025 season.

2.2 million fans went to their games.
$40, $50 & $60 for a ticket.

2.2 million x $50 average = $110,000,000.00

Not too shabby.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 08:42 PM (Q9Vcs)

207 "...someone was giving away 500g bags of silaca gel desiccant."

That was me and I will bring more this year. Yes, you can dry it out in the oven.
Posted by: fd at September 28, 2025 08:30 PM

Thank you so much for the silica gel desiccant. I've not been using it because I couldn't get it to work in my range. I don't know if it was because it's gas or if I got it too hot or what, but the toaster oven works a treat. And My Lady isn't even mad that I've absconded with her toaster oven.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:42 PM (VmDLh)

208 Currently deer hunting in North Cal. Watching a nice canyon of oaks. Acorns are just starting to fall. Nice scenery so far. Squirrels, woodpeckers, and quail are all I've seen so far this eve.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 08:43 PM (Y7J8g)

209 Just watched about 15 minutes of Idiocracy and seen probably 4 of the top 10 Moron comments already.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 28, 2025 08:44 PM (/lPRQ)

210 How do the people in movies never need to reload?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (wI5E1)

I want the infinity MP40 Eastwood used in Where Eagles Dare.

Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 08:44 PM (EYmYM)

211 Next you'll ask why most actors firing single-action revolvers never need to cock the hammer between shots.
Posted by: Gref at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (5rh/l)
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I may have told this story here before, but it's been a while.

Some years back I decided I wanting a .22 LR revolver for plinking, and I wasn't willing to pay for a Ruger Single Six. I surfed around, scoped Gun Broker and found an auction for an Iver Johnson Sidewinder in mint condition for super-cheap. Even better, it was in Michigan, and within a reasonable drive. Won the auction, went to pick it up in person, and everything went off without a hitch.

BUT

I thought I was buying a Single Action gun. That's what was listed. In the shop, that's what I tested. Cock the hammer and trigger releases. Took it home, showed it to my wife. Who pulled the trigger with the hammer down. I was about to say "It's single action only" when the damn thing actually worked. Double action! "A little stiff," she said, handing it back to me.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:44 PM (ZOv7s)

212 Did your SFCs and CSMs reward you extra leave passes?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

LOL....I ETS'd with all my fingers and all my stripes, that's all I'll say
Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 08:20 PM (Z6vKV)

I can hear it now: "Lieutenant, can I have a word?"
Not that that ever happened to me...

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 08:45 PM (2WIwB)

213 RMBS, are you going with Federal Gold Medal Match 140s?
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 08:26 PM

I have a box of Federal 130s and some Hornady ELD 140s. We'll see what it likes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:45 PM (Wnv9h)

214 During the Vietnam era, M79 grenadiers had buckshot rounds available for close quarters combat. I think each one was loaded w/ 20 or so 00 buckshot. That would have utterly shredded the back seat passengers at close range.
Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM

A flechette round would be even better.

The M-79 ("Blooper", "Bloop Gun") was fun. It could be quite accurate out to 300 or so meters.

Shells were spin-armed, and could be armed by jiggling caused by jogging, so grenadiers were encouraged to hit the deck away from others, in case one in their bandolier had gotten armed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:47 PM (0sNs1)

215 RMBS, will sacrifice and get up early Saturday so I can spend time on the rifle range.Looking forward to it. Also bringing the G44 in 22 for Mom to try. She can try the 9mm too and with the thinner grip might like it as much as I do.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 28, 2025 08:28 PM

I'll be there! I'm sure the Mom will love trying the pistols.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 08:47 PM (Wnv9h)

216 Thanks Duncanthrax, Bass Pro saved me $10. One's purple and the other is green. With two i got free shipping and I wanted two so that worked out fine.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Good choices.
I went with the lime green. This was before the first dildo was cast.

Best to get your accessories not camouflaged.
That way you need only worry you put down your gat.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 28, 2025 08:49 PM (/lPRQ)

217 Didn't have a mag loader for years (except the one that came with the 9mm XD), but I like the Maglula now that I have one. Especially handy at matches where you have to reload mags between stages and time can be short. Highly recommend.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (U/Byj)
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During my final rifle qual with the ANG, they handed us magazines and stripper clips of ammo on the range with directions to load them to certain amounts. All my fellow Airman dutifully peeled the rounds off the clips and inserted them individually into the mags. I started to do this and abruptly stopped. I went up to range control and the table with the ammo. Rooted around until I found the adapter and began ramming the ammo into the mags.

One of the SPs (who ran the range) looked at me. "Security Forces?"

"Prior Army."

"Ah."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:50 PM (ZOv7s)

218 whig, this works as relief for back pain in some. Tape a magnet across the area of the spine most affected. The other most effective method is cold laser treatments.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 08:50 PM (kurEY)

219 How do the people in movies never need to reload?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2025 07:51 PM (wI5E1)
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Because, like taking a dump, it happens off-camera.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)

220 I don't think I will do any more that way for the concerns and issues you mentioned. I do think a jig would be necessary. I'll check out brownells and some of the other sources you mentioned.
Posted by: Pooklord
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A couple of the better AR lower parts makers have better components but I have seen some really shitty AR parts floating around through the years. Some are rejects from the military contracts, some are off mil spec like the Anderson (stainless steel and cast instead of forged), and some are lowest cost bidder stuff.

Look for Schmid Tools if you want high end milspec quality. Schmid has made trigger components for the military since the 80's and has been in business since the 60's.

One thing to also check is the disconnector. These are normally mild steel and stamped but polishing those can result in a better trigger pull.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:52 PM (WDjG6)

221 favorite Maglula Uplula color is pink.

* Nobody * ever steals pink.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Fine, I actually use a purple ribbon! I think ace needs to come back to the meetup

Posted by: lin-duh: I'm offended! at September 28, 2025 08:53 PM (UwBs6)

222 Hey everybody. Hey Weasel! Long time no read.

Seems like every Bass Pro Shop location out here in SoCal is at least double the size of a football field. They must stock a lot of outdoorsy merch.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 28, 2025 08:56 PM (8z6SV)

223 The M-79 ("Blooper", "Bloop Gun") was fun. It could be quite accurate out to 300 or so meters.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 08:47 PM (0sNs1)
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I recall a book about South Africans in Angola mentioning that one of the armored car drivers carried an M-79 as his sidearm. He said if his vehicle blew up and he had to bail out, it would be a hell of a lot more useful than a pistol.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:56 PM (ZOv7s)

224 218 whig, this works as relief for back pain in some. Tape a magnet across the area of the spine most affected. The other most effective method is cold laser treatments.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Re teh cold laser, some swear by it and some swear at it.

In my case the spinal disks themselves are collapsing due to complications from psoriatic arthritis. Ankylosing Spondylitis in later stages makes your spine look like bamboo as your spine fuses together with the disks. Then I have peripheral nerve compression coming off the spine in several cervical disks and now some central canal stenosis in two areas--lumbar and cervical.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 08:58 PM (WDjG6)

225 Guns.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 08:59 PM (xcxpd)

226 I gotta say, the church shooting (this week) at a Mormon church makes me surprised the shooter wasn't met by a hail of gunfire from the parishioners. A lot of Mormons I know carry. I suppose in Michigan, it's much harder to do even compared to WA state.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:00 PM (xcxpd)

227 One of the SPs (who ran the range) looked at me. "Security Forces?"

"Prior Army."

"Ah."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I personally like bulk AR loaded on stripper clips. Makes it very quick to load a mag. I always called the clip adapter for the magazine a mag spoon.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:00 PM (WDjG6)

228 226 I gotta say, the church shooting (this week) at a Mormon church makes me surprised the shooter wasn't met by a hail of gunfire from the parishioners. A lot of Mormons I know carry. I suppose in Michigan, it's much harder to do even compared to WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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He ran his pickup into the two outside doors first before getting out to start shooting. Apparently had some improvised IEDs with him too--I am guessing pipe bombs.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)

229 CBD, uptwinkles on the Norma 143s in 6.5 Creed. I still have some left from that order, and it is great brass for reloading.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:02 PM (QJ2Hs)

230 I recall a book about South Africans in Angola mentioning that one of the armored car drivers carried an M-79 as his sidearm. He said if his vehicle blew up and he had to bail out, it would be a hell of a lot more useful than a pistol.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:56 PM

Embrace the power of AND.

M-72 LAWs had their use, too. Only problem was after carrying one for more that about 5 weeks in the humidity, functioning was not guaranteed. Great for bunkers, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:02 PM (0sNs1)

231 208 Currently deer hunting in North Cal. Watching a nice canyon of oaks. Acorns are just starting to fall. Nice scenery so far. Squirrels, woodpeckers, and quail are all I've seen so far this eve.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway

The deer are hiding out in Sacramento. Check the Governor's garage or basement.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 09:02 PM (hyDPU)

232 201 It's a Tisas. Of Turkish manufacture, or so I'm given to believe.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 08:38 PM (VmDLh)

Yes. And those are almost always on sale for less than $500. But I hear they are decent 1911s.
Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 08:40 PM (Dvcu+)

Tisas and Rock Island 1911's are really good. We live in an era when you can get a stock 1911 for $300....a golden age.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:03 PM (xcxpd)

233 Just watched about 15 minutes of Idiocracy and seen probably 4 of the top 10 Moron comments already.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

In fairness, there is a lot of retarded shit in the world, and we need to call it out when we see it.

Posted by: mikeski at September 28, 2025 09:04 PM (nhCoE)

234 228 226 I gotta say, the church shooting (this week) at a Mormon church makes me surprised the shooter wasn't met by a hail of gunfire from the parishioners. A lot of Mormons I know carry. I suppose in Michigan, it's much harder to do even compared to WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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He ran his pickup into the two outside doors first before getting out to start shooting. Apparently had some improvised IEDs with him too--I am guessing pipe bombs.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)

Well that's just cheating. Shoot him twice to be sure.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd)

235 The deer are hiding out in Sacramento. Check the Governor's garage or basement.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 28, 2025 09:02 PM (hyDPU)

Well, it could be s sight seeing trip. 1.5 days to go.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:05 PM (Y7J8g)

236 Norma 143s in 6.5 Creed. I still have some left from that order, and it is great brass for reloading.
Posted by: RI Red
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Only bad brass from Norma I have ever seen is their 6.5 Arisaka. Not formed correctly to spec. Rest of it is a chef's kiss as far as brass goes.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)

237 Just watched about 15 minutes of Idiocracy and seen probably 4 of the top 10 Moron comments already.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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I saw that it's playing on Prime.

Posted by: lin-duh: I'm offended! at September 28, 2025 09:06 PM (nKjbR)

238 Mark I saw one report - unconfirmed - that in fact one member inside the church had defied church rules and was carrying. Don't even recall if report claimed said member had fired on the nut. No element of the foregoing has been documented AFAIK, but seemed relevant.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj)

239 Carryover from last week:
Is the Texas Barbecue Gun best in a .45 revolver?
And should the belt for the holster have cartridge loops?
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (QJ2Hs)

240 Well that's just cheating. Shoot him twice to be sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

There is a vibe around that everything around us is falling apart and for which I blame the media and Democrats. That is causing people that have existing mental issues trouble and stirring them up.

And I think the media and Dems are doing it intentionally as they want dead people to blame GOP and Trump for.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (WDjG6)

241 Tisas and Rock Island 1911's are really good. We live in an era when you can get a stock 1911 for $300....a golden age.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:03 PM

What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

242 whig, these are methods to help with the muscles around the spine. Increased blood flow.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 09:08 PM (kurEY)

243 183 Eh, guess I’ll tune in later when I don’t have to wade through all the jargon to turn the Gun Thread into a boob thread.

The Gun Thread is, apparently, the only one that can’t be turned into a boob thread.
Posted by: Bulg at September 28, 2025 08:33 PM (77rzZ)

I reject this thinking

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https://www.deviantart.com/ruutel10/art/Sylvanas-1245706090

(warning, WOW titties)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:08 PM (xcxpd)

244 238 Mark I saw one report - unconfirmed - that in fact one member inside the church had defied church rules and was carrying. Don't even recall if report claimed said member had fired on the nut. No element of the foregoing has been documented AFAIK, but seemed relevant.
Posted by: rhomboid

Dunno about LDS but some churches have their firearm policies set by state or national bodies, not congregations and that might be an issue here or not. Congregations that own their land and buildings will have more freedom to do what they need. But apparently, AH Lloyd may know, the area is fairly rural where this event happened.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:09 PM (WDjG6)

245 I want the infinity MP40 Eastwood used in Where Eagles Dare.
Posted by: the way I see it at September 28, 2025 08:44 PM (EYmYM)

He does reload twice. Once during the epic gunbattle at the stairs inside the castle, and once during the final bus chase to airfield and escape plane.

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 09:09 PM (BCwQW)

246 re Moly dry lube - in my former life as an engineer, I learned the hard way that if you can see any solid gray layer of moly on a surface, it's waaaaay too thick. We learned to remove the as-applied and dried moly using rough, dry, paper towels until only a grayish sheen remained. Too much dry lube can be worse than no lube at jamming mechanisms.

YMMV

Posted by: Gref at September 28, 2025 09:10 PM (5rh/l)

247 Mark I saw one report - unconfirmed - that in fact one member inside the church had defied church rules and was carrying. Don't even recall if report claimed said member had fired on the nut. No element of the foregoing has been documented AFAIK, but seemed relevant.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj)

BNL married into the Mormons. As far as he knows, no one at his church carries.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:11 PM (2WIwB)

248 244 238 Mark I saw one report - unconfirmed - that in fact one member inside the church had defied church rules and was carrying. Don't even recall if report claimed said member had fired on the nut. No element of the foregoing has been documented AFAIK, but seemed relevant.
Posted by: rhomboid

Dunno about LDS but some churches have their firearm policies set by state or national bodies, not congregations and that might be an issue here or not. Congregations that own their land and buildings will have more freedom to do what they need. But apparently, AH Lloyd may know, the area is fairly rural where this event happened.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:09 PM (WDjG6)

No idea there, would like to know more. I do know I carry at my church (I'm on our security team) and I know several other people at the church also quietly carry.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:12 PM (xcxpd)

249 247 Mark I saw one report - unconfirmed - that in fact one member inside the church had defied church rules and was carrying. Don't even recall if report claimed said member had fired on the nut. No element of the foregoing has been documented AFAIK, but seemed relevant.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj)

BNL married into the Mormons. As far as he knows, no one at his church carries.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:11 PM (2WIwB)

This makes me sad

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:12 PM (xcxpd)

250 Wild Turkey 101 Rye is an excellent pour.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (n9ltV)

251 241 Tisas and Rock Island 1911's are really good. We live in an era when you can get a stock 1911 for $300....a golden age.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:03 PM

What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

1911 mags are pretty universal. Wilson Combat and Ed Brown mags are considered the best and it's what I would use IF I carried a 1911.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (xcxpd)

252 Wild Turkey 101 Rye is an excellent pour.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (n9ltV)

This is truth.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (2WIwB)

253 What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe

They're not the cheapest, but I swear by Wilson Combat 1911 mags.

Posted by: Oedipus at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (Z6vKV)

254 250 Wild Turkey 101 Rye is an excellent pour.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:13 PM (n9ltV)

Literally true.

Try Sazerac Rye as well for a nice, smooth pour

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:14 PM (xcxpd)

255 240 Well that's just cheating. Shoot him twice to be sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

There is a vibe around that everything around us is falling apart and for which I blame the media and Democrats. That is causing people that have existing mental issues trouble and stirring them up.

And I think the media and Dems are doing it intentionally as they want dead people to blame GOP and Trump for.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (WDjG6)

I can't argue that thinking. It's affecting even normies around me. The Media has a lot to answer for. Faith helps, so does carrying high capacity firearms everywhere.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (xcxpd)

256 I was all set to get a 6.5 CM. Now I am reading a lot about the 6 MM GT.

Was looking at the Bergara rifles.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (Y7J8g)

257 Palmetto State Armory has a Tisas brand 1911 in stainless, beaver tail grip safety, In 9mm Luger with a 38 Super barrel and magazine conversion kit.

For $429 (before shipping, tax, etc.)

That is all.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (wLsnt)

258 239 Carryover from last week:
Is the Texas Barbecue Gun best in a .45 revolver?
And should the belt for the holster have cartridge loops?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (QJ2Hs)

That or a 1911 in .38 Super is considered the baseline

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (xcxpd)

259 I love my Tisas 1911.
My go-to remains the Israeli Arms Baby Eagle but the Tisas is very nice.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (2WIwB)

260 CBD, uptwinkles on the Norma 143s in 6.5 Creed. I still have some left from that order, and it is great brass for reloading.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:02 PM (QJ2Hs)

Somebody else besides the two of us figured it out. It has gone up in price.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (n9ltV)

261 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (v23vE)

262 257 Palmetto State Armory has a Tisas brand 1911 in stainless, beaver tail grip safety, In 9mm Luger with a 38 Super barrel and magazine conversion kit.

For $429 (before shipping, tax, etc.)

That is all.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (wLsnt)

As Zod would say, you will buy this. Do it now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (xcxpd)

263 Ok, gonna ease on outa here. And, no, I have no Wild Turkey, 101 or otherwise.
Dammit.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (QJ2Hs)

264 I was all set to get a 6.5 CM. Now I am reading a lot about the 6 MM GT.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM

Do you handload? If not, would you like to?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (0sNs1)

265 242 whig, these are methods to help with the muscles around the spine. Increased blood flow.
Posted by: Ben Had

That is ultimately an issue as my particular demon variety of psoriatic arthritis is attacking and destroying all my connective tissue and that leaves bone spurs everywhere including nerve channels. So my surgeons get to play whack a mole after tedious demonstration that other things do not work.

I use heat, cold, physical therapy (been in Pt since 2000 using all visits on my plan), and Meloxicam aka Mobic nowadays. And yes, I do stretching and strength building pt exercises at home, some professional massage targeting the back, and mild muscle relaxers when absolutely needed to sleep. Baclofen and another one which is Methyl carbamol I think.

Basically my psoriatic arthritis drug is not working since 18 months ago they made me switch from Humira and Insurance is being a pain in letting me use something other than Cosentyx. Plus, some of those are not rated to treat ankylosing spondylitis. And there are other insurance/legal issues involved right now. Friggin mess.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (WDjG6)

266 Because, like taking a dump, it happens off-camera.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)

Huh? All the mag dumps I've seen were definitely on camera.

Oh. Wait. NVM....

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:17 PM (Dvcu+)

267 No movie this week!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 28, 2025 09:17 PM (63Dwl)

268 Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 28, 2025 09:17 PM (Wnv9h)

269 What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

Best magazines available are Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick magazines. They're not cheap, but are more durable because they're better made than the original GI spec magazines. Check the Wilson Combat website to see if anything is on sale. On cheaper magazines, known failure points include the feed lips and magazine bodies bending if dropped, stepped on, or crushed. Make sure you know the difference between full sized and compact size magazines. They will not interchange (i.e. compact won't fit in full size guns, and vice versa).

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

270 Dunno about LDS but some churches have their firearm policies set by state or national bodies, not congregations and that might be an issue here or not. Congregations that own their land and buildings will have more freedom to do what they need. But apparently, AH Lloyd may know, the area is fairly rural where this event happened.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:09 PM (WDjG6)
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Michigan law prohibits concealed carry in churches unless permitted by the church officials. Many denominations have blanket prohibitions on this, but it is technically up to the individual congregations.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)

271 261 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (v23vE)

The Remington 700 one of the best .308 platforms, particularly if you get one made before 1990. Accurized versions have been sniper/precision platforms for decades. If you can't afford an Accuracy International rifle, a Rem 700 isn't a bad alternative.

Cons, well if you get a 90's or 2000's Remington you are getting decreased quality control.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (xcxpd)

272 264 I was all set to get a 6.5 CM. Now I am reading a lot about the 6 MM GT.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM

Do you handload? If not, would you like to?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (0sNs1)

Yes, I like reloading. There are also some factory rounds available. Not a lot.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (Y7J8g)

273 I am late to this party for reasons.

Sra blaster and I are looking forward to attending this year in Corsicana. She is intent on ringing that thousand yard steel and, well, when she sets her mind to something don't get in her way.

I have a request for the Horde - she really wants to shoot a Desert Eagle preferably in 50AE. If someone has one and can bring it that would be greatly appreciated. We will compensate for the ammo and the logistics around lugging that thing.

Posted by: blaster at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (RoO7G)

274 I can't argue that thinking. It's affecting even normies around me. The Media has a lot to answer for. Faith helps, so does carrying high capacity firearms everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I am not particularly worried about my mortality any longer due to faith but also being in constant pain. I do worry about those I have duties to like my wife and mother in dementia care. No one to take that slack up from me.

Then again, I spend almost all time nowadays at the house due to infirmity. Someone would have a deathwish to do stupid shit in my neighborhood.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)

275 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM

Good platform, good caliber. What are you going to use it for?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (0sNs1)

276 CBD, have you tried Travelers?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (kurEY)

277 And I think the media and Dems are doing it intentionally as they want dead people to blame GOP and Trump for.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (WDjG6)

I can't argue that thinking. It's affecting even normies around me. The Media has a lot to answer for. Faith helps, so does carrying high capacity firearms everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (xcxpd)

The left will double and triple down just for the bloodshed so their media allies can say "See!!?? Nazis!"

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (2WIwB)

278 261 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (v23vE)

I have a heavy barrel one that is an amazing shooter.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:20 PM (Y7J8g)

279 What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

Wilson Combat magazines were spec'd by the USMC for issue w/ their M45A1s (the final 1911's contracted for by DOD). If it's Marine resistant, it must be good, right?

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 09:20 PM (BCwQW)

280 I am not particularly worried about my mortality any longer due to faith but also being in constant pain. I do worry about those I have duties to like my wife and mother in dementia care. No one to take that slack up from me.

Then again, I spend almost all time nowadays at the house due to infirmity. Someone would have a deathwish to do stupid shit in my neighborhood.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)

I'm sorry man. I'll add you to my prayer list, for what it's worth. Chronic pain is no fun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:20 PM (xcxpd)

281 I have to say that I refuse to follow the news on weekends, so cannot comment on events.

By tomorrow evening I will be more up to speed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:21 PM (ZOv7s)

282 1 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM (v23vE)

The Remington 700 one of the best .308 platforms, particularly if you get one made before 1990. Accurized versions have been sniper/precision platforms for decades. If you can't afford an Accuracy International rifle, a Rem 700 isn't a bad alternative.

Cons, well if you get a 90's or 2000's Remington you are getting decreased quality control.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (xcxpd)

Mine is from 1981. An excellent platform and absolutely fun to shoot. Awesome accuracy and now at my age, a better gun than my eyes.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:22 PM (2WIwB)

283 The Remington 700 one of the best .308 platforms, particularly if you get one made before 1990. Accurized versions have been sniper/precision platforms for decades. If you can't afford an Accuracy International rifle, a Rem 700 isn't a bad alternative.

Cons, well if you get a 90's or 2000's Remington you are getting decreased quality control.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (xcxpd)

Thanks, MAE!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:22 PM (v23vE)

284 Thanks again for the gun thread, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 09:23 PM (BCwQW)

285 Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

If it's a standard 1911 (and the Tisas and Rock Islands certainly are), any 1911 mag should work just fine.* The only problem you'll have with 1911 mags (as far as I've seen) is finding 9mm ones for anything other than a GI-size pistol. Finding ones for my Officer sized 9mm is not easy.

(* Except for the ones I've bought, which seem to like disassembly under pressure. They've been good ones, too, not off-brand stuff. I'm beginning to think it's me that's the problem.)

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:23 PM (Dvcu+)

286 PS
The Remington 700.
Con: finding magazines.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:24 PM (2WIwB)

287 We went to the Nations Gun show and there were a few Deagles to see. Three vendors each with the same selection of 2 ea. 1 black, one stainless with muzzle break both in 50AE.

Picked up some more ammo

Also, we always want to be safe. I picked up some parts that will make a gun safe. Super safe.

I am not sure what I will fit that on. It fits AR15s with milspec bolt of which there are a few at the bottom of our creek. Also, I have seen you can make andExtar EP9 super safe with a little Dremel work on the bolt required.

Thinking. Thinking.

Posted by: blaster at September 28, 2025 09:24 PM (RoO7G)

288 So according to Nicholas Kristof at the NYT, nothing is wrong with Portland and Trump was wrong to call it hell because, and I quote, "'Hell' does not serve Pinot Noir this good."

Did one of you Morons hack into the Times and post that for him?

Posted by: Ian S. at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM (NztoB)

289 CBD, have you tried Travelers?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (kurEY)

Nope. Never heard of it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM (n9ltV)

290 275 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:16 PM

Good platform, good caliber. What are you going to use it for?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:19 PM (0sNs1)

I have short-range (12ga) and medium-range (pistol caliber carbine) platforms. Based on my experiences on the rifle range at Corsicana, I'm wanting to extend out my range capability.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM (v23vE)

291 Sometimes I want a 10mm weapon, but my issue is that I don't just want an unremarkable pistol in a slightly more powerful cartridge. I've got lots of hand cannons and 10mm barely registers in that respect.

It has to be a unique, exciting platform. Other than the Bren Ten, what is there?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:26 PM (ZOv7s)

292 261 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe, as the owner would like to sell it to me. Would appreciate any pros and cons about the platform.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
========
Rifles are individuals as far as accuracy especially those that come from the factory. See if the guy will let you shoot it with him present first. If he can shoot it well, then you should be able to as well when you get accustomed to it. Otherwise, you have no frame of reference.

That being said, an r700 with an aftermarket trigger from Timney or others can be excellent. Remington barrels were still decent even during the dark days of Cerebrus Mgmt, and I have a long action receiver that I was planning to build until my health deteriorated into a bean field gun. Receiver is perfectly in spec and the aftermarket bolt fits it like a glove with not much other than lapping the bolt lugs to get good engagement.

Stocks and other parts are where later Remingtons cheaped out on and the trigger was decent but then due to litigation over the Walker trigger, Remington made matters worse with their 'improvements' to fix things without admitting it needed to be fixed.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:26 PM (WDjG6)

293 269 What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM (VmDLh)

Best magazines available are Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick magazines. They're not cheap, but are more durable because they're better made than the original GI spec magazines. Check the Wilson Combat website to see if anything is on sale. On cheaper magazines, known failure points include the feed lips and magazine bodies bending if dropped, stepped on, or crushed. Make sure you know the difference between full sized and compact size magazines. They will not interchange (i.e. compact won't fit in full size guns, and vice versa).

Posted by: Ed L at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

+1 on Wilson and EdMcC 1911 mags. If you are interested, one (I forget which) or both make 10 round mags. They extend below the frame, but it's an option for you.

Posted by: Gref at September 28, 2025 09:27 PM (5rh/l)

294 Faith helps, so does carrying high capacity firearms everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (xcxpd)

So true.

And that requires this:
https://tinyurl.com/5ek8tn7x

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:27 PM (Dvcu+)

295
Mine is from 1981. An excellent platform and absolutely fun to shoot. Awesome accuracy and now at my age, a better gun than my eyes.

PS
The Remington 700.
Con: finding magazines.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:24 PM (2WIwB)

Thanks for the balanced advice, Diogenes.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:27 PM (v23vE)

296 What kind of magazines can I use in the one I bought? Are 1911 magazines pretty much interchangeable, or what do I have to look out for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 28, 2025 09:07 PM

Wilson Combats are my go tos. Chip McCormicks are excellent as well.

Les Baer, who makes superlative 1911s, supplies crappy mags with them for some unknown reason, and being, on his best days, even more irascible then Ace on his worst, does not appreciate it when you call him to discuss the matter.

Avoid ProMags of any caliber.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (0sNs1)

297 So according to Nicholas Kristof at the NYT, nothing is wrong with Portland and Trump was wrong to call it hell because, and I quote, "'Hell' does not serve Pinot Noir this good."

Did one of you Morons hack into the Times and post that for him?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM (NztoB)
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Old and busted: effete wine drinkers sneering at proletarian concerns who deserve to be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

New hotness: effete wine drinkers rightfully preside over the destruction of the proletariat.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (ZOv7s)

298 The lever gun we got is tactical with a rail up top.

I have a few extra pistol dots with rail adapters.

So of course...

Looks pretty cool.

Also, of course, this rifle is my Fathers Day present and well Sra blaster shoots it better than me and likes it a lot.

I suspect we will end up with two.

Sigh.

Posted by: blaster at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (RoO7G)

299 Mine is from 1981. An excellent platform and absolutely fun to shoot. Awesome accuracy and now at my age, a better gun than my eyes.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:22 PM (2WIwB)

Mine is about a 1985, and it is damned accurate. I shot it in the spring, and I was getting 1 MOA groups with hunting ammo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (n9ltV)

300 Rifles are individuals as far as accuracy especially those that come from the factory. See if the guy will let you shoot it with him present first. If he can shoot it well, then you should be able to as well when you get accustomed to it. Otherwise, you have no frame of reference.

That being said, an r700 with an aftermarket trigger from Timney or others can be excellent. Remington barrels were still decent even during the dark days of Cerebrus Mgmt, and I have a long action receiver that I was planning to build until my health deteriorated into a bean field gun. Receiver is perfectly in spec and the aftermarket bolt fits it like a glove with not much other than lapping the bolt lugs to get good engagement.

Stocks and other parts are where later Remingtons cheaped out on and the trigger was decent but then due to litigation over the Walker trigger, Remington made matters worse with their 'improvements' to fix things without admitting it needed to be fixed.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:26 PM (WDjG6)

Good advice, Whig -- thanks!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (v23vE)

301 I have short-range (12ga) and medium-range (pistol caliber carbine) platforms. Based on my experiences on the rifle range at Corsicana, I'm wanting to extend out my range capability.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM (v23vE)

With the Remington, once you get it zeroed, you ought to be good to 600-800 meters. If you know what you're doing, 1000 meters is doable.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (2WIwB)

302 I find it odd that the church shooter rammed the building, shot it up, spread enough gas to cause a fire that destroyed the building, exited to the back parking lot and was shot. Possibly bombs or IED’s as well. In 8 minutes if the timeline holds up to scrutiny that’s a whole lot of mayhem in a short time. Did he have help or are the authorities off on the timing? The press conference was pretty tightly controlled and not a lot of questions answered. FBI and ATF heading the investigation, ATF due to the arson, one of their divisions is arson investigation.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (2NHgQ)

303 291 Sometimes I want a 10mm weapon, but my issue is that I don't just want an unremarkable pistol in a slightly more powerful cartridge. I've got lots of hand cannons and 10mm barely registers in that respect.

It has to be a unique, exciting platform. Other than the Bren Ten, what is there?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:26 PM (ZOv7s)

Best two 10mm pistols are the XDM Elite from Springfield and the Glock 20. I know...I know...but from a size/weight/capacity/recoil standpoint, the G20 is really peak.

The XDM Elite is very very good for a 10 round 10mm but it's a bit blocky in hand.

I know some morons also have the Colt Delta Elite. If you get one that is later mfg, it may not have issues with slide cracking and then you have a 1911 that shoots 10mm. Some people are into that.

Smith and Wesson also makes a solid 10mm and so does SIG.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (xcxpd)

304 Mine is about a 1985, and it is damned accurate. I shot it in the spring, and I was getting 1 MOA groups with hunting ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (n9ltV)

Good to know, CBD. Thanks.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:29 PM (v23vE)

305 i should mention, there is a 40 year old Rem 700 .30-06 on my lap as I type. It's my Old Trusty deer rifle Works every time.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:29 PM (Y7J8g)

306 Avoid ProMags of any caliber.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (0sNs1)

#Wisdom

Promags are ONLY for range training...it helps with malfunction drills.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:30 PM (xcxpd)

307 Mine is about a 1985, and it is damned accurate. I shot it in the spring, and I was getting 1 MOA groups with hunting ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (n9ltV)

One day we need to shoot.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:30 PM (2WIwB)

308 Michigan law prohibits concealed carry in churches unless permitted by the church officials. Many denominations have blanket prohibitions on this, but it is technically up to the individual congregations.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)

And these are not otherwise pacifistic denominations. I consider it a doctrinal evil.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:30 PM (Dvcu+)

309 294 Faith helps, so does carrying high capacity firearms everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:15 PM (xcxpd)

So true.

And that requires this:
https://tinyurl.com/5ek8tn7x
Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:27 PM (Dvcu+)

And keep your rifle by your side...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:31 PM (xcxpd)

310 My 700 triggers have been switched to Timneys.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:31 PM (Y7J8g)

311 Wilson mags are my main 1911 mags. Have some USGI surplus as well. One other brand that has worked fine are Brownell's branded 8-rounders. Think I have 3, got them on sale (they're normally cheaper than Wilson or Chip's to begin with).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:31 PM (U/Byj)

312 All right, time to walk dogs.

'night Morons, love you all.

Even the Glock haters...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 28, 2025 09:32 PM (xcxpd)

313 And these are not otherwise pacifistic denominations. I consider it a doctrinal evil.
Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:30 PM (Dvcu+)
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It's not always doctrinal, but bureaucratic.

I think things are rapidly changing as the nature of the threat becomes clear and empty pews are staring church officials in the face.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:32 PM (ZOv7s)

314 307 Mine is about a 1985, and it is damned accurate. I shot it in the spring, and I was getting 1 MOA groups with hunting ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (n9ltV)

Funny, mine is an 84 or 85

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:32 PM (Y7J8g)

315 For value I have been surprised by Elijah Craig rye (the low $20s one). I don't mix, only sip neat, but it was fine for that, and will be bought again. Imagine it would mix fine if/when I finally start doing cocktails.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:33 PM (U/Byj)

316 305 i should mention, there is a 40 year old Rem 700 .30-06 on my lap as I type. It's my Old Trusty deer rifle Works every time.

310 My 700 triggers have been switched to Timneys.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:31 PM (Y7J8g)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Hatari!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:33 PM (v23vE)

317 Oh, hey, we beat the ~~mushroom~~ Food Thread. So there's that.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:34 PM (v23vE)

318 Good advice, Whig -- thanks!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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Remington went to some really crappy plastic stocks without bedding blocks toward the end and their modified Walker triggers were awful and with little change toward safety.

Most commercial bolt actions rifles around nowadays (and most shotguns until very recently) are not drop safe with a round in teh chamber. They mostly have trigger blocking safeties that prevent trigger movement but do not block the firing pin/striker. So you drop them on the stock with the trigger engaged from a high enough distance and they might discharge via inertia acting on the firing pin/striker.

There is a reason in dangerous parts of the world that old Mauser actions based on the 98 are still preferred for safety and reliability. The safety on those literally prevents the firing pin from coming in contact with the primer under any condition except if some idiot or extreme wear breaks the safety keys on the firing pin.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:34 PM (WDjG6)

319 For value I have been surprised by Elijah Craig rye (the low $20s one). I don't mix, only sip neat, but it was fine for that, and will be bought again. Imagine it would mix fine if/when I finally start doing cocktails.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:33 PM (U/Byj)
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I like Elijah Craig bourbon, but haven't tried the rye. I will add that to my 'to do' list, because I enjoy a good rye.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:35 PM (ZOv7s)

320 One day we need to shoot.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2025 09:30 PM (2WIwB)

Diogenes, can you travel to NH in late spring?
1100 yard range, of which I am on the Board.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:35 PM (QJ2Hs)

321 here is a reason in dangerous parts of the world that old Mauser actions based on the 98 are still preferred for safety and reliability. The safety on those literally prevents the firing pin from coming in contact with the primer under any condition except if some idiot or extreme wear breaks the safety keys on the firing pin.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:34 PM (WDjG6)
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The weapon of choice for the Chinese Nationalists was the Kar98k. Talk about a rough neighborhood...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:36 PM (ZOv7s)

322 Sometimes I want a 10mm weapon, but my issue is that I don't just want an unremarkable pistol in a slightly more powerful cartridge. I've got lots of hand cannons and 10mm barely registers in that respect.

It has to be a unique, exciting platform. Other than the Bren Ten, what is there?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Uberti 1847 Colt Walker .44 cal in black powder.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:37 PM (Q9Vcs)

323 FBI and ATF heading the investigation, ATF due to the arson, one of their divisions is arson investigation.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 28, 2025 09:28 PM (2NHgQ)

Also, since they are technically ATFE (with the E being explosives), I'm betting they're covering the boom-booms, too.

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:37 PM (Dvcu+)

324 Based on my experiences on the rifle range at Corsicana, I'm wanting to extend out my range capability.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:25 PM

Assuming it's coming with decent glass, at a decent price, and as others have pointed out best if a pre-90, it could be a good choice. The fact you get to try it out is a huge plus. Get some (2-3 boxes) 168 Match ammo.

Most modern rifles (particularly in the CNC era we're in) will shoot a little under a MOA (some can approach .5 MOA). Good glass is a difference maker. My advise is plan to spend 100 to 200% of the rifle price on glass, (depending on what you want to do, of course). .308 goes transsonic out around 800 to 1K yards, depending on load. 6.5CM will get you more range, but do you need it?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:39 PM (0sNs1)

325 Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:29 PM (Y7J8g)

Last deer I took was in NorCal...the Anderson Valley.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:39 PM (n9ltV)

326 Uberti 1847 Colt Walker .44 cal in black powder.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:37 PM (Q9Vcs)
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I had a professor in college who was something of a firearms/terrorism expert. Or so he said. Anyway, he was consulted by a chain of convenience stores on what they should use to arm their clerks and he said a Colt Dragoon, because it was huge and intimidating, and size matters. They refused to take him seriously, and used .380s, which worked, but required clerks to shoot them because they had no intimidation value.

Great anecdote, we thought he was a pretty cool dude, and then looking him up years later he was found with kiddie pr()n on his office computer and self-deleted after being convicted. So maybe not the best authority.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:41 PM (ZOv7s)

327 I've inspected some Chinese Mausers and have an old VZ-24 stock with Chinese markings in my parts stash. I decided at the end of the day not to rebuild it with a Chinese Mauser action. Hoosier Gunworks used to have a few of the Chinese Mauser barrelled actions in stock and they know their Mausers plus been in business for a long time.

Every now and again, they get some pretty rare stuff as they go do the gunshow circuit. Same for pistolas, etc. And they have a fairly large and eclectic used parts supply for old firearms.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (WDjG6)

328 6.5CM will get you more range, but do you need it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:39 PM (0sNs1)

Somewhere, an angel just lost its wings.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (QJ2Hs)

329 Last deer I took was in NorCal...the Anderson Valley.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:39 PM (n9ltV)

Beautiful place. Pure blacktails there

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (Y7J8g)

330 Here is what I think happened at the Charlie Kirk shooting. I have watched the impact videos several times. I think the shooter was going for center mass but because the gravity distance was less, shooting down hill, his bullet drop was not as great as he expected, and he hit his throat. I think the bullet then struck Charlie's shoulder blade which was tilted forward due to body lean. The bullet deflected down into the body. That is why there is no exit wound. The temporary cavity in his body caused his T-shirt to swell. Death was instantaneous, as over pressure destroyed the brain stem.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at September 28, 2025 09:44 PM (Da7Vv)

331 Great anecdote, we thought he was a pretty cool dude, and then looking him up years later he was found with kiddie pr()n on his office computer and self-deleted after being convicted. So maybe not the best authority.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Those new fangled stockless pistol grip shotguns might do even better if you keep them down to a 20 gauge or so. Due to a quirk in ATF regs, those can have shorter than 18 inch barrels without an NFA issue because no stock on them.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:44 PM (WDjG6)

332 and he said a Colt Dragoon,
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:41 PM

I would be inclined to take him more seriously if he'd specified 3rd Model Dragoon.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:45 PM (0sNs1)

333 Beautiful place. Pure blacktails there

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (Y7J8g)

Lots of pigs too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:45 PM (n9ltV)

334 If all goes well tomorrow, UPS will deliver my PSA AR10.

It made it to Sherman to the UPS hub. It should make it to the pawn shop/FFL Transfer Dealer.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:46 PM (Q9Vcs)

335 Somewhere, an angel just lost its wings.
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM

Ok, .338 Lapua or .50 BMG.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:46 PM (0sNs1)

336 I know some morons also have the Colt Delta Elite. If you get one that is later mfg, it may not have issues with slide cracking and then you have a 1911 that shoots 10mm. Some people are into that.

I have several Kimbers and a Colt Gold Cup Limited Edition in 10mm. The Glock 20 and 20c are fairly good weapons. The motorcycle gun is a 29

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 28, 2025 09:46 PM (a4flb)

337 The UK National Health Service put out an advisory that marrying your first cousin creates strong extended families and can increase earning potential.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 28, 2025 09:47 PM (3ha+O)

338 Somewhere, an angel just lost its wings.
Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (QJ2Hs)

Shot off with a .308?

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:47 PM (Dvcu+)

339
It has to be a unique, exciting platform. Other than the Bren Ten, what is there?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Try a 38-40 New Service revolver or N Frame S&W--if the shooting doesn't work, they are such a hunk of steel that you can bash heads in with it.

And the 38-40 loaded hot ballistics is what those originally messing with the 10mm and 40 S&W intended. Uses a 40 cal bullet btw.

Sort of like how the 32-20 ballistics were later duplicated by the 32 H&R magnum.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:48 PM (WDjG6)

340 Lots of pigs too!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:45 PM (n9ltV)

Vermin ! Haha

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:48 PM (Y7J8g)

341 Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:46 PM (Q9Vcs)

I have one in .308, and it is a hoot to shoot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:48 PM (n9ltV)

342 It has to be a unique, exciting platform. Other than the Bren Ten, what is there?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:26 PM

Thompson-Center Contender, duh!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:49 PM (0sNs1)

343 Assuming it's coming with decent glass, at a decent price, and as others have pointed out best if a pre-90, it could be a good choice. The fact you get to try it out is a huge plus. Get some (2-3 boxes) 168 Match ammo.

Most modern rifles (particularly in the CNC era we're in) will shoot a little under a MOA (some can approach .5 MOA). Good glass is a difference maker. My advise is plan to spend 100 to 200% of the rifle price on glass, (depending on what you want to do, of course). .308 goes transsonic out around 800 to 1K yards, depending on load. 6.5CM will get you more range, but do you need it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:39 PM (0sNs1)

Great advice, Dunc! The owner says it has Nikon glass currently installed, but no more details than that.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 28, 2025 09:49 PM (v23vE)

344 Every now and again, they get some pretty rare stuff as they go do the gunshow circuit. Same for pistolas, etc. And they have a fairly large and eclectic used parts supply for old firearms.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:42 PM (WDjG6)
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For a couple of months in 2024, I ran searches for various Chinese Mauser variants on Gunbroker and compared then to Arisaka auctions.

This included Zhong Zengs, Hanyang, FN imports and Type 13s. The Arisakas outnumbered all of them by a margin of 33+:1

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:49 PM (ZOv7s)

345 Anderson Valley is beautiful. Know it for pinot, not deer or pigs, but it's all good. When I first went there it sorta reminded me of Sonoma before it went big-time. Except the wine prices had already gone big-time.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2025 09:50 PM (U/Byj)

346 I want to thank you all for the amazing turn out for MoMe X.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2025 09:50 PM (kurEY)

347 Thanks, for another great Gun Thread, Weasel.
Thanks to all the Horde for the great chat.

(And, Weasel, if you sent anything back to me, I'll find it tonight. I've been off on email for about a week, with work travel.)

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 09:50 PM (Dvcu+)

348 I have one in .308, and it is a hoot to shoot!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I decided to get one for hogs. Worried the .223 won't be as effective as .308. Especially shooting across open pasture.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:51 PM (Q9Vcs)

349 Ok, .338 Lapua or .50 BMG.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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For either of them, how much are you willing to pay buy ammo? And then where do you have to shoot it. Indoor, forgetaboutit. Outdoors, needs to start at 500 yards with a helluva backstop.

Lots of neat toys out there but at the end of the day, I prefer stuff I can afford to feed and reload.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:51 PM (WDjG6)

350 My 700 in 308 is a 2000s but it's a great shooter. I did put it in a Magpul stock. It was pillar bedded in a cheap hogue stock from the factory but still shot .5 MOA.

I know there was some quality problems in that era as others mentioned

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:52 PM (Y7J8g)

351 Thompson-Center Contender, duh!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 28, 2025 09:49 PM (0sNs1)
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I had one of those in .410/.45. Pretty neat.

Many years ago, when Vampire: The Masquerade was a thing (IYKYK) I came up with the idea of an over-under, break-action handgun in .410 that could fire "Dragonbreath" rounds. In-game, I said I could have one modded by a gunsmith.

And then Bond Arms made them for real. I was sorely tempted, but I regarded them as something I wanted as a child, but I have since put aside childish things.

At least until I have more money.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:53 PM (ZOv7s)

352 Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2025 09:46 PM (Q9Vcs)

I have one in .308, and it is a hoot to shoot!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 28, 2025 09:48 PM (n9ltV)

Can confirm. Mine took 20 rounds, with lots of holdover and windage, but it eventually rang steel at 1106. Even with Scoobs calling the shots.

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 09:53 PM (QJ2Hs)

353 I decided to get one for hogs. Worried the .223 won't be as effective as .308. Especially shooting across open pasture.
Posted by: rickb223
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If you have an AR 15 lower, just put on a 6.8 SPC upper receiver with a new bolt. Lots of folks hunt hogs with that particular round and fairly cheap as far as actual hunting rounds go. Keeps up with the 6.5 Grendel to about 400 yards or so.

But did you not buy an AR-10 recently? Then you can also put a 6.5 Creedmoor upper on it later if you wish.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:53 PM (WDjG6)

354 So I have a chance to borrow a Remington 700 in .308 for TXMoMe,

What kind of barrel ?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 28, 2025 09:54 PM (a4flb)

355 Launch now

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 11-20
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB, CA - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: September 28, 2025 (PDT)
Launch Time: 7:04 p.m. PDT ( September 29, 02:04 UTC, 04:04 CEST)

https://youtu.be/UW0NSTZdokY

Posted by: Joyenz at September 28, 2025 09:54 PM (2F0/Y)

356 By the way, as of Sept 1, 2025 TX recognizes all states Concealed Carry licenses. Good to know for the MoMe.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at September 28, 2025 09:55 PM (Da7Vv)

357 A question out of the blue... Is anyone familiar with a Winchester Model 770 in .270 Caliber? Got one and curio
us?

Posted by: 625Boatrider at September 28, 2025 09:55 PM (4nX8n)

358 350 My 700 in 308 is a 2000s but it's a great shooter. I did put it in a Magpul stock. It was pillar bedded in a cheap hogue stock from the factory but still shot .5 MOA.

I know there was some quality problems in that era as others mentioned
Posted by: Hatari
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Hogue used to make a more expensive version of your stock with bedding blocks on it for about double the price if I recall correctly. Choate and Magpul also have reasonable synthetic r700 stocks below 500. Then you get into the pricier ones.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:55 PM (WDjG6)

359 Since I have an AMT Automag II, I have looked for the Wyoming Arms 10mm that has the same 80s vibe.

But that's a hard find at a reasonable price.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at September 28, 2025 09:56 PM (TursI)

360 Well, it's getting to be that time. Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 28, 2025 09:57 PM (ZOv7s)

361 Got one and curio
us?
Posted by: 625Boatrider
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Cheaper version of their post 1960's Winchester 70 but action and barrel are probably the same. Dunno about the trigger though and does yours have a blind magazine?

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:57 PM (WDjG6)

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Hogue used to make a more expensive version of your stock with bedding blocks on it for about double the price if I recall correctly. Choate and Magpul also have reasonable synthetic r700 stocks below 500. Then you get into the pricier ones.
Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 09:55 PM (WDjG6)

I put it in the Magpul stock. I like it.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 28, 2025 09:59 PM (Y7J8g)

363 Now I really am going to slip away.
Current advice: carry everywhere now. Shootings are becoming a daily thing, even in formerly safe places, e.g. NH country club.
Do not be a victim. The life you save may be related to you. Or even a fellow Moron!

Posted by: RI Red at September 28, 2025 10:00 PM (QJ2Hs)

364 Wife and I really want to be there this year, but events prevent that. What with the move to ID, new job. Plus we just got back from a last-minute trip to Georgia to see my ailing Mom. She's been in the hosptitla for about a month. She got a pacemaker installed, which helped, but then she contracte pneumonia, and is still unable to get out of bed without her O2 level dropping. Brother said, though, that after we left this morning she seemed better. No decision has been made yet whether she'll go into hospice, although she said that she will not rule it out. She's exhausted, but always cheered up when we visited.

She hates the hospital food, so we were bringing her stuff to eat. her appetite is low, but she has no dietary restrictions.

I hated leaving, but life intrudes. She understands.

Georgia is an interesting place. Mom and brother and his wife live an hour away from Savannah.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 28, 2025 10:00 PM (0aYVJ)

365 ONT nood

Posted by: GWB at September 28, 2025 10:01 PM (Dvcu+)

366 Silver at $46.62 per oz. That means a pre-1965 silver dime has $3.33 worth of silver in it.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at September 28, 2025 10:01 PM (Da7Vv)

367 LAST!

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 28, 2025 10:01 PM (0aYVJ)

368 This included Zhong Zengs, Hanyang, FN imports and Type 13s. The Arisakas outnumbered all of them by a margin of 33+:1
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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When I was Mauser collecting/rebuilding, I would see them now and again on Gunbroker and elsewhere, usually incomplete barrelled actions in poor condition. Dunno about the source of them though.

Posted by: whig at September 28, 2025 10:02 PM (WDjG6)

369 Whig, my Win 770 - 270 Cal. rifle does have a 'Blind magazine", assuming you mean that I have to cycle the action to unload the rifle - rather than remove the ammo through a bottom opening plate...

Posted by: 625Boatrider at September 28, 2025 10:10 PM (4nX8n)

370 Long time lurker. Looking forward to meeting all of you.
Will bring an extra Uplula that ended in my case somehow.

Posted by: ZootInTexas at September 29, 2025 09:58 AM (EkzjK)

371 Need a gunsmith located NW of Austin to look at an old 22LR Buckmark pistol with 100K rounds through it. Any suggestions?

Posted by: ZootInTexas at September 29, 2025 10:08 AM (EkzjK)

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