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Conviction vs. Convenience (scampydog)
What are the limits of your/their resolve? This is beyond politics. It is a fight for what is moral and what is worth preserving and building upon.
The murder of Charlie Kirk and the left's grotesque reactions to it on social media have shocked more than just political/policy partisan junkies. The "normals" are wide awake and are pissed off.We are seeing some push back with cancellations, plenty of writing/think pieces, TPUSA chapter applications, and some government bluster.
People are realizing (younger generations and the oblivious), perhaps for the first time, that the modern left isn't just filled with petulant ideologues. It is overrun with sociopaths and psychopaths that are embedded in government, education, media, the healthcare, jurisprudence, the judiciary, and hoodie-basement dwellers who wander out to riot. For years, sane people have ignored and avoided these loathsome domestic terrorists. Who can blame them? No one wants to walk into a zone where they are greatly outnumbered. As the saying goes, your tactics suck if you do so - it doesn't make you brave, it means you're stupid. But what happens when the danger zombies comes for you? Your children, your freedom of movement, your community, your way of life? The radical left are bold enough to murder a peaceful public figure in broad daylight - our survival instinct shifts. Avoidance gives way to anger. Then to engagement. We've reached peak nice. It's over. Who is willing to move beyond the complaints and actually enact change and/or confront the people that are the problem? President Trump and his team certainly are. It will, however, take more than political saviors. It's going to take us. The people. Those willing to risk what has been earned and learned. This isn't a laydown fight. These deranged sickos genuinely believe they are just in their thoughts and actions. They are willing to fight and many are armed. How does society deal with those that cannot be reasoned with? How do the ones that have a chance at sanity get pried away from those that are hardened beyond repair in their beliefs? I have been saying the same line since my late teens. Eventually, it will end in violence. Unknown where we are on the violence timeline, but we have moved closer to the nasty part. Last week, I played golf on Wednesday evening and Sunday morning. Groups of 14 and 34 dudes, respectively. Spent a couple hours in a dive bar on Saturday night while on a road trip. Lively discussions at all three but no one acted like they were ready for Civil War II. Mood is shifting, people are talking, but what actions are being taken? The left is not going to "calm down." Historically, they have done the opposite. Civil Rights? Viet Nam? Middle class white guilt? Not radiator coolants. These launched the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers, and Symbionese Liberation Army. Expecting today's Left to de-escalate is naive. They don't want peace - they want submission. The long quiet center and the right have tolerated the moral inversion and gaslighting. Charlie Kirk's murder was a breaking point. Many who tried to stay out of the fight are realizing this is no longer about left vs. right. It's about sanity vs. chaos. Order vs. anarchy. What can be done? What can normals do? I don't know, and nobody else does either. Let's start here. Law and Order -- Infiltrate and dismantle anarchist hubs. Long, dirty, necessary work - but crucial.
- Enforce existing laws. Roll back soft-on-crime policies.
- Prosecute criminal acts clearly and forcefully. De-legitimize the ideology behind them. Messaging & Media Warfare - Control the narrative. Take back the language and be inflexible when the left deploys their word bullshit. Never refer to them as "protesters" - call them what they are, anarchists, radicals, and domestic terrorists.
- Expose them publicly. Humiliate their ideas with the weapons of wit, truth, and facts.
- Mocking works. Point, laugh, and watch them wring themselves into hyperventilating gyrations. Then point and laugh harder.
- Prepare for debate. Polite retreat is for losers nowadays. Bring facts and a bit of venom. Or threaten them with a toilet swirly. I'd say to make them think you're going to steal their girlfriend/boyfriend, but they are a confused lot - grey area these days. Rebuild Culture & Identity - Make conservatism cool. Most people aren't deep thinkers - they follow trends. So set the trend. Signal that patriotism, strength, and faith are aspirational, not outdated.
- Restore national identity. Support Trump and others reviving the spirit of America.
- Bring back Western religion. Regardless of your belief system, It’s not just a moral compass; it's foundational to our country. Target Institutions - Cut federal funding to lawless cities and states. The tools already exist — highway fund leverage is a proven example.
- Defund the GOs, NGOs, and leftist grift machines. Follow the money and shut it off. (Big hat tip to Trump - he is all over this).
- Take back the schools. Get involved in local boards, support critical thinking curricula, and fight the indoctrination. FOIA the shit out of them. It works. Digital/Online - Reduce their audience. There are simply a large number of dumb dumbs that should not have a platform or voice. Social media is a recruitment engine — and an echo chamber for radicals. Pressure platforms, change algorithms, and starve them of attention. This is an old school 15 round prize fight. Those types of fights rarely went the distance. I'll take Hagler in round 3.
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I'll get em
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:00 PM (+qU29)
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Hola p
Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 21, 2025 12:01 PM (GYt5+)
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I have been over the left and the muzzies for quite a while now. I have ALWAYS believed them when they said they want me and mine and my way of life dead. I am totally willing to kill them right back.. I carry Glock 48 and am never far from a glock 19 in the house. I will NOT be a willing victim.
Posted by: Pamazon at September 21, 2025 12:04 PM (b5MGU)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
A day before Rosh Hashanah. Nice touch.
Even the stupid French President was holding off until the remaining hostages were released; not sure if that still goes now, or not.
A day before Rosh Hashanah. Nice touch.
Even the stupid French President was holding off until the remaining hostages were released; not sure if that still goes now, or not.
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 12:06 PM (mADJX)
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Cancelling a few idiots on X is the first step. Second step will be some nasty physical consequences for some rioters, to show we aren't playing anymore. This will hopefully knock a little sense into the LARPers who are just looking for some kicks.
Then comes the long, nasty fight against the true believers. The Irish "Troubles" comes to mind.
Then comes the long, nasty fight against the true believers. The Irish "Troubles" comes to mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 12:10 PM (A62KL)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
Has Charles announced his conversion yet? I can see the appeal for him, given his wife has a face made for a burka.
Has Charles announced his conversion yet? I can see the appeal for him, given his wife has a face made for a burka.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:10 PM (QZThv)
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I BELIEVE IN HARVEY DENT: Jaime Dimon.
The Venal and the Weak surrounded by his cadre of lawyers, and deep state enablers who pit Man against other men until we exist no more.
Epstein is the one thing that could clear out the rat's nest of villainy and eminent monster-dom contemporary politicians are willing to literally sacrifice all to achieve.
Limits of resolve? the Eternal Urinal that will be erected upon Bill Clinton's grave, as the only fitting tribute to the man who factually stood there at the pinnacle of our Civilization -- to PISS IT ALL AWAY.
Remember who caused all of this, and created the raft of determined perpetrators who follow in his footsteps: Bill Clinton -- top 20th ball'r on Epstein's Island Paradise.
The Venal and the Weak surrounded by his cadre of lawyers, and deep state enablers who pit Man against other men until we exist no more.
Epstein is the one thing that could clear out the rat's nest of villainy and eminent monster-dom contemporary politicians are willing to literally sacrifice all to achieve.
Limits of resolve? the Eternal Urinal that will be erected upon Bill Clinton's grave, as the only fitting tribute to the man who factually stood there at the pinnacle of our Civilization -- to PISS IT ALL AWAY.
Remember who caused all of this, and created the raft of determined perpetrators who follow in his footsteps: Bill Clinton -- top 20th ball'r on Epstein's Island Paradise.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at September 21, 2025 12:11 PM (4iIVV)
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President Trump posted what appears to be a text message he sent to Attorney General Pam Bondi, telling her the lack of arrests and accountability for Deep State Trump haters is “killing our reputation and credibility”
https://tinyurl.com/49e9jw6p
Reporter:
"Are you criticizing Pam Bondi?"
President Trump:
"No, I just want people to act. They have to act, and we want to act fast. You know, they were worthless and vicious—I was impeached twice, I was indicted five times, it turned out to be a fake deal, and we have to act fast—one way or the other...They're guilty, they're not guilty.
We have to act fast."
https://tinyurl.com/49e9jw6p
Reporter:
"Are you criticizing Pam Bondi?"
President Trump:
"No, I just want people to act. They have to act, and we want to act fast. You know, they were worthless and vicious—I was impeached twice, I was indicted five times, it turned out to be a fake deal, and we have to act fast—one way or the other...They're guilty, they're not guilty.
We have to act fast."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:14 PM (Zx8G2)
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6 In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
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Hello
_Portugal
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Hello
_Portugal
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:16 PM (Zx8G2)
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6 Has Charles announced his conversion yet? - Ian S.
I think he's holding out for recognition as Caliph ("I say, I'm already Defender of the Faith, you know. We'll just switch the faith that I'm defending, what?").
I think he's holding out for recognition as Caliph ("I say, I'm already Defender of the Faith, you know. We'll just switch the faith that I'm defending, what?").
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 12:16 PM (mADJX)
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A leftist nut shot and killed a random guy at a country club last night. We must talk about these things.
A leftist nut shot up an ABC station in Sacramento and was arrested and let out on bail. The AG and FBI swooped him up and arrested him on federal charges, no bail. That's how to do it. Over and over until they get it.
I have unfriended leftist haters who I was tolerating bc of past friendships. No biggie, I'm just not available to them.
I use the English language correctly. I saw Mr. or Ms. in articles I post, for clarity. I say mom and dad, not parent.
And I used to be a Democrat.
A leftist nut shot up an ABC station in Sacramento and was arrested and let out on bail. The AG and FBI swooped him up and arrested him on federal charges, no bail. That's how to do it. Over and over until they get it.
I have unfriended leftist haters who I was tolerating bc of past friendships. No biggie, I'm just not available to them.
I use the English language correctly. I saw Mr. or Ms. in articles I post, for clarity. I say mom and dad, not parent.
And I used to be a Democrat.
Posted by: Random PJ at September 21, 2025 12:16 PM (RRCAT)
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- Enforce existing laws. Roll back soft-on-crime policies.
- Prosecute criminal acts clearly and forcefully. De-legitimize the ideology behind them.
Lack of law enforcement has been an issue for decades, especially for illegal aliens all across the country and for basic crime in every blue city. George Soros bought District Attorney elections all across the country to make sure they refuse to enforce laws.
And both the Democrat Party and the GOPe have not only refused to enforce immigration laws, they have increased illegal alien invasion and protected them with "sanctuary" areas and provided them taxpayer funded benefits.
In addition to enforcing laws, Bostic v Clayton County (2020) needs to be overturned asap. That SCOTUS case legally legitimized "gender identity" as a protected class. Until that is overturned and "gender identity" is classified correctly as a mental disorder, this madness is going to continue.
Bostic v Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
- Prosecute criminal acts clearly and forcefully. De-legitimize the ideology behind them.
Lack of law enforcement has been an issue for decades, especially for illegal aliens all across the country and for basic crime in every blue city. George Soros bought District Attorney elections all across the country to make sure they refuse to enforce laws.
And both the Democrat Party and the GOPe have not only refused to enforce immigration laws, they have increased illegal alien invasion and protected them with "sanctuary" areas and provided them taxpayer funded benefits.
In addition to enforcing laws, Bostic v Clayton County (2020) needs to be overturned asap. That SCOTUS case legally legitimized "gender identity" as a protected class. Until that is overturned and "gender identity" is classified correctly as a mental disorder, this madness is going to continue.
Bostic v Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2025 12:17 PM (P5BPp)
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Civil Rights were a GOP thing. Democrats like Al Gore Sr fought it for a decade. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed with 100% GOP support and 23% Democrat. So of course Democrats spent the next 61 years saying "we passed Civil Rights." That you also believe them is scary.
Posted by: Fisht at September 21, 2025 12:19 PM (BHEHK)
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Bill Clinton -- top 20th ball'r on Epstein's Island Paradise.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at September 21, 2025 12:11 PM (4iIVV)
I was shocked, saddened and a bit surprised when my fellow "citizens" elected Billi Jeff to the white house in 1992. He was nothing more than a smooth talking, trailer trash hillbilly with a harridan for a wife who talked out both sides of his mouth while lying and fronting the whole time, like the Tinkers who show up and want to "resurface" your driveway with black paint.
People are stupid.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at September 21, 2025 12:11 PM (4iIVV)
I was shocked, saddened and a bit surprised when my fellow "citizens" elected Billi Jeff to the white house in 1992. He was nothing more than a smooth talking, trailer trash hillbilly with a harridan for a wife who talked out both sides of his mouth while lying and fronting the whole time, like the Tinkers who show up and want to "resurface" your driveway with black paint.
People are stupid.
Posted by: Dumb As Dirt at September 21, 2025 12:19 PM (R/m4+)
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George Soros bought District Attorney elections all across the country to make sure they refuse to enforce laws.
DataRepublican says she's found a direct link between Soros DAs and Antifa funding. Hopefully people in the administration are listening.
DataRepublican says she's found a direct link between Soros DAs and Antifa funding. Hopefully people in the administration are listening.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:20 PM (QZThv)
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9 6 In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
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Hello
_Portugal
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:16 PM (Zx8G2)
Israel should thank them by promptly closing their embassies in those countries, and order their embassies in Israel closed.
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Hello
_Portugal
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:16 PM (Zx8G2)
Israel should thank them by promptly closing their embassies in those countries, and order their embassies in Israel closed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 12:20 PM (bPFPB)
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I know the violence from the Marxists and Anarchists will not end, they thrive on it.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:20 PM (+qU29)
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Also, there was some discussion yesterday about the gun used to assassinate Charlie Kirk. Some claimed that it could not be the caliber reported, because on the cell phone videos, the shot sound was not loud enough.
Gary Melton with Paramount Tactical shows a video where the gun shot sounds like a cannon, as expected. The shot is around the 15:00 mark. Starting around the 14:00 mark, Gary Melton explains why the cell phone videos with lesser mics deliberately muffle the gun shot sound, while the professional mic used in the interview at the Charlie Kirk event picked up the actual cannon-like sound.
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4nbvfGC
Gary Melton with Paramount Tactical shows a video where the gun shot sounds like a cannon, as expected. The shot is around the 15:00 mark. Starting around the 14:00 mark, Gary Melton explains why the cell phone videos with lesser mics deliberately muffle the gun shot sound, while the professional mic used in the interview at the Charlie Kirk event picked up the actual cannon-like sound.
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4nbvfGC
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2025 12:22 PM (P5BPp)
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Shows how the Marxists are taking over other Western countries
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:23 PM (+qU29)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
What are the borders of said state?
In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
What are the borders of said state?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2025 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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There is international law that defines what a "state" is. And "Palestine" doesn't meet the criteria for statehood.
https://is.gd/Eb15bV
https://is.gd/Eb15bV
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 21, 2025 12:24 PM (PiwSw)
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Also, there was some discussion yesterday about the gun used to assassinate Charlie Kirk. Some claimed that it could not be the caliber reported, because on the cell phone videos, the shot sound was not loud enough.
Grassy knoll.
Also, there was some discussion yesterday about the gun used to assassinate Charlie Kirk. Some claimed that it could not be the caliber reported, because on the cell phone videos, the shot sound was not loud enough.
Grassy knoll.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2025 12:25 PM (63Dwl)
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In addition to enforcing laws, Bostic v Clayton County (2020) needs to be overturned asap. That SCOTUS case legally legitimized "gender identity" as a protected class. Until that is overturned and "gender identity" is classified correctly as a mental disorder, this madness is going to continue.
Bostic v Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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Thanks for the link.
Bostic v Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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Thanks for the link.
Posted by: scampydog at September 21, 2025 12:25 PM (41CYW)
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Gary Melton explains why the cell phone videos with lesser mics deliberately muffle the gun shot sound
Yup. Phones limit the volume on recordings, this has been known for 15 years of concert bootlegs. (I say bootlegs, but a lot of newer bands are happy for you to post them and even post some themselves, like the Grateful Dead).
Yup. Phones limit the volume on recordings, this has been known for 15 years of concert bootlegs. (I say bootlegs, but a lot of newer bands are happy for you to post them and even post some themselves, like the Grateful Dead).
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:25 PM (QZThv)
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Great list. Additionally, expose the people pulling the strings. Soros is a Bond villain, but so are the other billionaires intent on destroying conservatives so they can impose their demented vision on the world. Make them known and mock them and anyone else who fancies themself 'elite.'
Posted by: IanDeal at September 21, 2025 12:26 PM (Dye5q)
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Soros is a Bond villain, but so are the other billionaires intent on destroying conservatives so they can impose their demented vision on the world.
Soros is the biggest name, but he was also spending the least amount of his own money, at least until USAID was gutted. The other guys are important to make into household names too.
Soros is the biggest name, but he was also spending the least amount of his own money, at least until USAID was gutted. The other guys are important to make into household names too.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:27 PM (QZThv)
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Came across this yesterday. Charlie Kirk's last interview with Andrew K. Smith which happened before Charlie Kirk's event at UVU. The more I see of Charlie Kirk, the more I see why so many people felt he would be President one day.
An hour before his event at UVU, I sat down with Charlie Kirk for what would become his final recorded conversation: a warm, inspiring, and apolitical dialogue on entrepreneurship, building businesses and an outlook for tomorrow.
(0:00) Intro
(0:5
Hometown and background
(3:02) Entrepreneurial journey
(3:54) What is an entrepreneur?
(5:22) The spark of a founder
(11:59) @elonmusk's time management method
(15:52) Building a lasting brand
(22:55) How to deal with feedback
(24:06) Lessons from leading Gen Z
(26:10) Privileges vs principals for leaders
(27:3 Outlook of America for business planning
(31:36) What is a quote you live by?
X Video (34:10): https://bit.ly/3KkwTY1
An hour before his event at UVU, I sat down with Charlie Kirk for what would become his final recorded conversation: a warm, inspiring, and apolitical dialogue on entrepreneurship, building businesses and an outlook for tomorrow.
(0:00) Intro
(0:5
Hometown and background
(3:02) Entrepreneurial journey
(3:54) What is an entrepreneur?
(5:22) The spark of a founder
(11:59) @elonmusk's time management method
(15:52) Building a lasting brand
(22:55) How to deal with feedback
(24:06) Lessons from leading Gen Z
(26:10) Privileges vs principals for leaders
(27:3
Outlook of America for business planning
(31:36) What is a quote you live by?
X Video (34:10): https://bit.ly/3KkwTY1
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2025 12:27 PM (P5BPp)
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The cancellation that led to the firing of folks celebrating Kirk's death was people rising up. Some of them were folks that had personally experienced cancel culture.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2025 12:28 PM (kUxzU)
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Have Elon on YouTube
https://tinyurl.com/2cukhhx2
https://tinyurl.com/2cukhhx2
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:28 PM (+qU29)
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He is explaining the Kimmel situation
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:29 PM (+qU29)
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I have never been a big fan of the Feds swooping in and taking over what could be a local investigation. However, if they can swoop in and get charges that will stick over and above the locals, let them go. Let the locals do their thing, press charges, and if insufficient for the gravity of the crime bring in the Feds if justified.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2025 12:29 PM (gm9Sb)
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We are all Charlie Kirk now
Posted by: Gonzotx at September 21, 2025 12:29 PM (nGraA)
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14 Bill Clinton -- top 20th ball'r on Epstein's Island Paradise.
The World Safe For Socialism: And why you should believe in Harvey Dent TOO!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-TheWARonNormalPeople
... First Obama tells us Bush had fucked up in Afghanistan What's his plan? Expand our military presence ...
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-OneNation
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-TheFrankenRabbit
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-theOBAMANOMICON
The World Safe For Socialism: And why you should believe in Harvey Dent TOO!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-TheWARonNormalPeople
... First Obama tells us Bush had fucked up in Afghanistan What's his plan? Expand our military presence ...
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-OneNation
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-TheFrankenRabbit
https://tinyurl.com/ForWARd-theOBAMANOMICON
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at September 21, 2025 12:30 PM (7Gq0T)
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8 President Trump posted what appears to be a text message he sent to Attorney General Pam Bondi, telling her the lack of arrests and accountability for Deep State Trump haters is “killing our reputation and credibility”
https://tinyurl.com/49e9jw6p
Reporter:
"Are you criticizing Pam Bondi?"
President Trump:
"No, I just want people to act. They have to act, and we want to act fast. You know, they were worthless and vicious—I was impeached twice, I was indicted five times, it turned out to be a fake deal, and we have to act fast—one way or the other...They're guilty, they're not guilty.
We have to act fast."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:14 PM (Zx8G2)
Jack Straw hardest hit.
https://tinyurl.com/49e9jw6p
Reporter:
"Are you criticizing Pam Bondi?"
President Trump:
"No, I just want people to act. They have to act, and we want to act fast. You know, they were worthless and vicious—I was impeached twice, I was indicted five times, it turned out to be a fake deal, and we have to act fast—one way or the other...They're guilty, they're not guilty.
We have to act fast."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:14 PM (Zx8G2)
Jack Straw hardest hit.
Posted by: threetwone... at September 21, 2025 12:31 PM (f8NpJ)
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The more I see of Charlie Kirk, the more I see why so many people felt he would be President one day.
I never paid any attention to him before, but now I've seen a bunch of his videos and they're fantastic. It's not the performative "own the libs" stuff some others do, he was always perfectly calm and had an encyclopedic knowledge of things to cite for every position. It seemed really random when SPLC went after him last spring, and then more recently South Park, but I get it now.
I never paid any attention to him before, but now I've seen a bunch of his videos and they're fantastic. It's not the performative "own the libs" stuff some others do, he was always perfectly calm and had an encyclopedic knowledge of things to cite for every position. It seemed really random when SPLC went after him last spring, and then more recently South Park, but I get it now.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
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Law and order correction. Villains kept in jail and prosecuted.
Judges that do not honor traditional values disbarred.
Self defense and defending others honored instead of being maligned and prosecuted as a crime.
When these villains are shot dead on the spot instead of being cuffed and strolled away their followers will begin to rethink the value of violence.
Value of violence is the bottom line.
Judges that do not honor traditional values disbarred.
Self defense and defending others honored instead of being maligned and prosecuted as a crime.
When these villains are shot dead on the spot instead of being cuffed and strolled away their followers will begin to rethink the value of violence.
Value of violence is the bottom line.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 12:33 PM (Zx8G2)
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31 I have never been a big fan of the Feds swooping in and taking over what could be a local investigation. However, if they can swoop in and get charges that will stick over and above the locals, let them go. Let the locals do their thing, press charges, and if insufficient for the gravity of the crime bring in the Feds if justified.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2025 12:29 PM (gm9Sb)
The way I see it, the Feds can be used as an absolute last resort. I agree; the fed have a minimal role in law enforcement except for crimes that are specifically federal in nature (like crimes that cross state lines, for one example). But what is your appeal if your state has declared its residents are the problem and see to it that a state of war exists between the state government and its residents?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2025 12:29 PM (gm9Sb)
The way I see it, the Feds can be used as an absolute last resort. I agree; the fed have a minimal role in law enforcement except for crimes that are specifically federal in nature (like crimes that cross state lines, for one example). But what is your appeal if your state has declared its residents are the problem and see to it that a state of war exists between the state government and its residents?
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 12:34 PM (bPFPB)
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I have never been a big fan of the Feds swooping in and taking over what could be a local investigation.
Me neither (it's a negative trope on TV shows for a reason) but so many local jurisdictions have been ideologically captured that it's necessary now.
Me neither (it's a negative trope on TV shows for a reason) but so many local jurisdictions have been ideologically captured that it's necessary now.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:34 PM (QZThv)
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38 The only feds that should be involved in a local investigation from onset would be the Marshal's Service in the case of warrants and BATF in firearms ID. After that, expand legally.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2025 12:37 PM (gm9Sb)
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8 President Trump posted what appears to be a text message he sent to Attorney General Pam Bondi, telling her the lack of arrests and accountability for Deep State Trump haters is “killing our reputation and credibility”
I've been saying this since day one. Her record in FL is not good. GTFO.
I've been saying this since day one. Her record in FL is not good. GTFO.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:38 PM (abIsI)
Posted by: Gonzotx at September 21, 2025 12:40 PM (nGraA)
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40 8 President Trump posted what appears to be a text message he sent to Attorney General Pam Bondi, telling her the lack of arrests and accountability for Deep State Trump haters is “killing our reputation and credibility”
I've been saying this since day one. Her record in FL is not good. GTFO.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:38 PM (abIsI)
She's gotten acres of people fired with nary a lawsuit against DOJ...now, she's recently been hiring while using what was left on defense vs offense...Trump has only said he'd like her to pursue offense now which is the right time b/c his EO's have slowed, and thus the immediate 100 lawsuits per EO have slowed so she can take a breath and refocus...
She's been the best AG in 50 years...which isn't saying much, but includes all the atrocious R pres AGs...
I've been saying this since day one. Her record in FL is not good. GTFO.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:38 PM (abIsI)
She's gotten acres of people fired with nary a lawsuit against DOJ...now, she's recently been hiring while using what was left on defense vs offense...Trump has only said he'd like her to pursue offense now which is the right time b/c his EO's have slowed, and thus the immediate 100 lawsuits per EO have slowed so she can take a breath and refocus...
She's been the best AG in 50 years...which isn't saying much, but includes all the atrocious R pres AGs...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2025 12:41 PM (tOcjL)
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The Stupid[/an]ification of Women? The Hate on Campus? Look no Further
Modern educated women are calling in Isis, Jezebel, Hathor, Lilith. All the old bad goddesses of pre-Adamic civilization. Therefore becoming pre-conscious. And fully evil.
https://shorturl.at/BuSj3
Elizabeth Nickson (substack)
Modern educated women are calling in Isis, Jezebel, Hathor, Lilith. All the old bad goddesses of pre-Adamic civilization. Therefore becoming pre-conscious. And fully evil.
https://shorturl.at/BuSj3
Elizabeth Nickson (substack)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 21, 2025 12:42 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Won't Be Missed at September 21, 2025 12:42 PM (R/m4+)
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I never paid any attention to him before, but now I've seen a bunch of his videos and they're fantastic. It's not the performative "own the libs" stuff some others do, he was always perfectly calm and had an encyclopedic knowledge of things to cite for every position. It seemed really random when SPLC went after him last spring, and then more recently South Park, but I get it now.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:32 PM
I knew of his name and of TPUSA. But I assumed he was just another of the conservative "own the libs" grifters who were using that stuff as a career, but not really doing anything that mattered to change things in the country. From what I have heard and read of his ventures over the past 11 days, I realize I was completely wrong in my assumptions.
Data Republican posted something yesterday regarding SPLC being involved with antifa.
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
This is probably old news to you, but I ran into what appears to be an antifa internal doc that strongly implies SPLC is an antifa front.
X: https://bit.ly/47UDmTw
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:32 PM
I knew of his name and of TPUSA. But I assumed he was just another of the conservative "own the libs" grifters who were using that stuff as a career, but not really doing anything that mattered to change things in the country. From what I have heard and read of his ventures over the past 11 days, I realize I was completely wrong in my assumptions.
Data Republican posted something yesterday regarding SPLC being involved with antifa.
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
This is probably old news to you, but I ran into what appears to be an antifa internal doc that strongly implies SPLC is an antifa front.
X: https://bit.ly/47UDmTw
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2025 12:42 PM (P5BPp)
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I don't like the Feds jumping into local situations either, Barky loved to do it with no other reason than a supposed race problem that could be wedged into it.
But if the local government force won't or as many in the last 4 years just let suspects walk out never to be found agauntil they commit another crime, the Feds should be able to grab that suspect.
But if the local government force won't or as many in the last 4 years just let suspects walk out never to be found agauntil they commit another crime, the Feds should be able to grab that suspect.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:43 PM (+qU29)
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Many write-ups like this over the past week+. I regard them as optimistic. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just that I see things as a bit more of a pessimist. Maybe a skeptic is a better word.
There's a vast universe of people out there who are fairly ignorant beyond a surface level. Again, I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. They have lives to live, and other priorities. Can't fault them for their priorities, because theirs are their own.
Revolutions don't require a majority, after all, so maybe there is hope. I guess that is the optimistic way to look at it.
There's a vast universe of people out there who are fairly ignorant beyond a surface level. Again, I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. They have lives to live, and other priorities. Can't fault them for their priorities, because theirs are their own.
Revolutions don't require a majority, after all, so maybe there is hope. I guess that is the optimistic way to look at it.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 21, 2025 12:44 PM (MZ+PY)
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Harmeet Dhillon should replace Bondi. She's a kick ass and take names type of person. She's an overachiever and already confirmed by the US Senate.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:44 PM (abIsI)
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I was surprised that the FBI agent in charge of the Letitia James investigation was fired this week.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2025 12:44 PM (5Gg6R)
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Andy Ngo @MrAndyNgo
Yes, [SPLC is an antifa front]. They don’t hide it. SPLC’s spokesman sent me this message when I asked him about Tom Jurgens, an SPLC staffer arrested at an Antifa attack in Atlanta and charged with domestic terrorism.
The SPLC is a registered nonprofit with an endowment worth half a billion dollars.
X: https://bit.ly/3VsEdmY
Yes, [SPLC is an antifa front]. They don’t hide it. SPLC’s spokesman sent me this message when I asked him about Tom Jurgens, an SPLC staffer arrested at an Antifa attack in Atlanta and charged with domestic terrorism.
The SPLC is a registered nonprofit with an endowment worth half a billion dollars.
X: https://bit.ly/3VsEdmY
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2025 12:46 PM (P5BPp)
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One big advantage the left/terrorist groups still have is big time support from the media.
F'rinstance-
Coming soon to a theater near you-
"One Battle After Another"
A big Hollywood, Leonardo Di Caprio release who's heroes are Weather Underground Terrorists.
They've been hiding for decades but come out of hiding to take on...guess???
That's right. White supremists. That lame-ass old bugaboo. *sigh* Tiresome crap. What are there? Like three white supremists in the whole country?
Aaaaaanywho, the critics are going wild (97% Fresh, Rotten Tomatoes), and-
everyone of the reviews I've read states how important this movie is, and how important the methods the terrorist "heroes" use to solve their problems can be applied to "today's problems".
And that's just what we need right now with the left murdering and assassinating at will, a movie that glorifies terrorists.
Awesome.
One big advantage the left/terrorist groups still have is big time support from the media.
F'rinstance-
Coming soon to a theater near you-
"One Battle After Another"
A big Hollywood, Leonardo Di Caprio release who's heroes are Weather Underground Terrorists.
They've been hiding for decades but come out of hiding to take on...guess???
That's right. White supremists. That lame-ass old bugaboo. *sigh* Tiresome crap. What are there? Like three white supremists in the whole country?
Aaaaaanywho, the critics are going wild (97% Fresh, Rotten Tomatoes), and-
everyone of the reviews I've read states how important this movie is, and how important the methods the terrorist "heroes" use to solve their problems can be applied to "today's problems".
And that's just what we need right now with the left murdering and assassinating at will, a movie that glorifies terrorists.
Awesome.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2025 12:46 PM (iJfKG)
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Even the “moderate” leftists who did the “sorry Kirk died it’s a tragedy” thing are back to their usual self. You can’t live with these people. Only way out is a national divorce.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 21, 2025 12:47 PM (qM1j6)
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Bostic v Clayton County: https://bit.ly/4koOhY4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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All Congress has to do is amend the law. That was a statutory interpretation case, not constitutional. And Gorsuch screwed it up in his opinion which was devoid of historical record that the CRA meant what he claimed it did.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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All Congress has to do is amend the law. That was a statutory interpretation case, not constitutional. And Gorsuch screwed it up in his opinion which was devoid of historical record that the CRA meant what he claimed it did.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 12:47 PM (WDjG6)
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I think one of the simplest (not easiest) things we can do is speak up. We've been silent too long. Confront them when they throw their temper tantrums. Say "Stop that nonsense" and watch them recoil as if you've struck them.
Posted by: windbag at September 21, 2025 12:47 PM (ax190)
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I am watching the memorial, I am always stunned at the absolute vocal talent of Christian singers. It’s moving.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 12:47 PM (p4NUW)
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I would put money on the Auto-Pen administration was funneling tax payer money into Leftist organizations that then shifted money to Antifa
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 12:48 PM (+qU29)
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48 Harmeet Dhillon should replace Bondi. She's a kick ass and take names type of person. She's an overachiever and already confirmed by the US Senate.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:44 PM (abIsI)
Harmeet wants to have reset civil rights law back to its intended purpose - she's got her hands full in that very important job and is well positioned where she is. Pam can let Harmeet go nuts with little oversight.
As mentioned previously, to run all of DOJ, you have to manage multiple departments and leaders, all under you. And some of those departments are still coming out of the Biden lawless years...so, some need more oversight than others...
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2025 12:44 PM (abIsI)
Harmeet wants to have reset civil rights law back to its intended purpose - she's got her hands full in that very important job and is well positioned where she is. Pam can let Harmeet go nuts with little oversight.
As mentioned previously, to run all of DOJ, you have to manage multiple departments and leaders, all under you. And some of those departments are still coming out of the Biden lawless years...so, some need more oversight than others...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2025 12:48 PM (tOcjL)
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I never paid any attention to him [Charlie Kirk] before, but now I've seen a bunch of his videos and they're fantastic. ...It seemed really random when SPLC went after him last spring, and then more recently South Park, but I get it now.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
I was aware of Mr. Kirk, but never paid much attention because I didn't think I was in his target audience (i.e., college-aged 30-ish adults). However, after his assassination several Catholic priests spoke out about it. Bishop Robert Barron, Frs. Chris Alar MIC, Mike Schmidt, and Robert Spitzer SJ spoke favorably about Mr. Kirk.
Unlike some of the other conservative "influencers", Mr. Kirk had correctly identified that we are in spiritual struggle. Even though he was a Protestant, he had mentioned at least twice on his blog that the Blessed Virgin Mary was a model for young women, and a key to defeating radical feminism. After I learned that, I see why there had been some speculation that he was in the process (or at least an inquirer) of converting to the Catholic Church.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
I was aware of Mr. Kirk, but never paid much attention because I didn't think I was in his target audience (i.e., college-aged 30-ish adults). However, after his assassination several Catholic priests spoke out about it. Bishop Robert Barron, Frs. Chris Alar MIC, Mike Schmidt, and Robert Spitzer SJ spoke favorably about Mr. Kirk.
Unlike some of the other conservative "influencers", Mr. Kirk had correctly identified that we are in spiritual struggle. Even though he was a Protestant, he had mentioned at least twice on his blog that the Blessed Virgin Mary was a model for young women, and a key to defeating radical feminism. After I learned that, I see why there had been some speculation that he was in the process (or at least an inquirer) of converting to the Catholic Church.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 12:49 PM (pJWtt)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
You mean they've decided Israel should be destroyed.
You mean they've decided Israel should be destroyed.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2025 12:49 PM (CHHv1)
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48 Harmeet Dhillon should replace Bondi. She's a kick ass and take names type of person. She's an overachiever and already confirmed by the US Senate.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Doesn't work like that under the Presidential Vacancies Act which limits time as 'acting' administrator.
Anyway, Bondi is more an administrator and figurehead anyway---the assistant AGs run the office. And a lot of the roadblocks occur where the rubber meets the road, district attorney levels--for example the DA that refuse to charge Ticia for mortgage fraud in VA got fired this week.
Dems had been blocking nominees for these lower offices making it harder for those on the top of agencies, including DoJ to do their job.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Doesn't work like that under the Presidential Vacancies Act which limits time as 'acting' administrator.
Anyway, Bondi is more an administrator and figurehead anyway---the assistant AGs run the office. And a lot of the roadblocks occur where the rubber meets the road, district attorney levels--for example the DA that refuse to charge Ticia for mortgage fraud in VA got fired this week.
Dems had been blocking nominees for these lower offices making it harder for those on the top of agencies, including DoJ to do their job.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 12:50 PM (WDjG6)
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A lot of the fired leftists are suing their former employers, bankrolled by Soros types of course.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 21, 2025 12:50 PM (qM1j6)
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Be a real keyboard warrior. DataRepublican has downloadable tools to help trace money and connections. Help this good lady find the top tier scumbags. Anybody can find the cannon fodder.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 12:53 PM (kurEY)
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*As mentioned previously, to run all of DOJ, you have to manage multiple departments and leaders, all under you.*
From the Fox News green room, no less!
From the Fox News green room, no less!
Posted by: Pam the Blondette at September 21, 2025 12:54 PM (XQo4F)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
_________
Let's recognize Scotland and Quebec as separate states.
In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
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Let's recognize Scotland and Quebec as separate states.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2025 12:55 PM (tgvbd)
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[b[What are the limits of your/their resolve? This is beyond politics. It is a fight for what is moral and what is worth preserving and building upon.
Mine? Graveyard dead. Me or them.
Mine? Graveyard dead. Me or them.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 12:57 PM (jddXn)
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17 I know the violence from the Marxists and Anarchists will not end, they thrive on it.
Posted by: Skip
Half of them are common violent criminals like the ones that St. Kyle dispatched in Kenosha (pedo, wife beater, and one who tried to strangle his brother and hit his sister. These are violent thugs similar to the type found in Islam where they seek absolution by attacking normies.
The other half are the softer ones that provide the sea that the violent ones can swim in. They show up at protests, burn crap like Teslas, etc. They are not as yet engaged in violent struggle. We shall see if they start trending that way especially those with a troon orientation or being a troon-kiddie lover.
Posted by: Skip
Half of them are common violent criminals like the ones that St. Kyle dispatched in Kenosha (pedo, wife beater, and one who tried to strangle his brother and hit his sister. These are violent thugs similar to the type found in Islam where they seek absolution by attacking normies.
The other half are the softer ones that provide the sea that the violent ones can swim in. They show up at protests, burn crap like Teslas, etc. They are not as yet engaged in violent struggle. We shall see if they start trending that way especially those with a troon orientation or being a troon-kiddie lover.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 12:57 PM (WDjG6)
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After I learned that, I see why there had been some speculation that he was in the process (or at least an inquirer) of converting to the Catholic Church.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
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Baptism of Desire as well as Baptism of Blood.
After I learned that, I see why there had been some speculation that he was in the process (or at least an inquirer) of converting to the Catholic Church.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
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Baptism of Desire as well as Baptism of Blood.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2025 12:59 PM (tgvbd)
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Trump isn't gonna fire Bondi...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2025 01:00 PM (VE6XX)
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56 I would put money on the Auto-Pen administration was funneling tax payer money into Leftist organizations that then shifted money to Antifa
Posted by: Skip
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I think it is fair to say that blue governments have been funnelling large sums to create the legal lawfare infrastructure nationwide for this modern revision of the KKK. National, state, and local. And apparently the soft underbelly lefty types are mostly employed in government or contractors for government. Teachers, professors, lawyers, and so on.
Posted by: Skip
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I think it is fair to say that blue governments have been funnelling large sums to create the legal lawfare infrastructure nationwide for this modern revision of the KKK. National, state, and local. And apparently the soft underbelly lefty types are mostly employed in government or contractors for government. Teachers, professors, lawyers, and so on.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:00 PM (WDjG6)
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>>>You can’t live with these people. Only way out is a national divorce.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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You want a crime syndicate living in the state next door?
The way out is to put them in jail forever.
If they are menaces, such as teachers, allow them jobs, only, where they have no influence.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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You want a crime syndicate living in the state next door?
The way out is to put them in jail forever.
If they are menaces, such as teachers, allow them jobs, only, where they have no influence.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:00 PM (Zx8G2)
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Pam Bondi will be loved, only when she is gone.
You'll see. All y'all just sitting around continuing to bitch bitch bitch will learn the hard way.
(Let's do positive replacement: let's assume that you cannot fire your divine object of hatred unless you come up with a replacement. Who do you replace Pam Bondi with? This ought to be good.)
You'll see. All y'all just sitting around continuing to bitch bitch bitch will learn the hard way.
(Let's do positive replacement: let's assume that you cannot fire your divine object of hatred unless you come up with a replacement. Who do you replace Pam Bondi with? This ought to be good.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:01 PM (bPFPB)
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Anyone know anyone with pull at The Daily Beast?
This is the bullshit they are publishing.
Adam Downer Breaking News Reporter
Opheli Garcia-Lawler Reporter
Updated Sep. 21 2025 3:55AM EDT
Published Sep. 20 2025 9:22PM EDT
Despite the DOJ being unable to find evidence to link the suspected killer, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, to any left-wing political ideologies,
https://tinyurl.com/ycxryxuc
This is the bullshit they are publishing.
Adam Downer Breaking News Reporter
Opheli Garcia-Lawler Reporter
Updated Sep. 21 2025 3:55AM EDT
Published Sep. 20 2025 9:22PM EDT
Despite the DOJ being unable to find evidence to link the suspected killer, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, to any left-wing political ideologies,
https://tinyurl.com/ycxryxuc
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 01:01 PM (jddXn)
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68 Trump isn't gonna fire Bondi...
Posted by: It's me donna
That is my take as well--one is that she provides insurance to prevent a recurrence of some stupid Sessions behavior in abdicating running the DoJ to some hostile pos assistant AG and a spec prosecutor. That was probably one of the aims of the whole Epstein op---remove Bondi and put in a ringer.
Posted by: It's me donna
That is my take as well--one is that she provides insurance to prevent a recurrence of some stupid Sessions behavior in abdicating running the DoJ to some hostile pos assistant AG and a spec prosecutor. That was probably one of the aims of the whole Epstein op---remove Bondi and put in a ringer.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:01 PM (WDjG6)
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Despite the DOJ being unable to find evidence to link the suspected killer, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, to any left-wing political ideologies,
https://tinyurl.com/ycxryxuc
Posted by: rickb223
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They lie as they breathe. No hope for that particular waste of electrons.
https://tinyurl.com/ycxryxuc
Posted by: rickb223
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They lie as they breathe. No hope for that particular waste of electrons.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:03 PM (WDjG6)
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Here I am trying to enjoy a good drumming video via Drumeo's YT channel with Mike Portnoy when some commercial featuring some fuckhead saying "Sorry to interrupt but this is important..." Said fuckhead proceeds to start blaming ME for Sandy Hook. FUCK OFF WITH THAT SHIT. This ASSHOLE and others like him are the reason I signed up with TSRA.
Fucking assholes...
AND YOU INTERRUPTED MIKE PORTNOY!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! YOU FUCKHEADS!!!!!
Fucking assholes...
AND YOU INTERRUPTED MIKE PORTNOY!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! YOU FUCKHEADS!!!!!
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:03 PM (bPFPB)
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After I learned that, I see why there had been some speculation that he was in the process (or at least an inquirer) of converting to the Catholic Church.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
His wife is catholic, but he very recently stated (and his pastor confirmed), he was not converting. He said he respected Catholicism, and while he felt other religions don’t give enough deference to Mary, he struggled strongly with Catholics view of her. Having been raised Catholic and now attending a Church much like the Evangelical Church Charlie Kirk did, I feel this deeply and it caused me a little pause. I have such a strong pull to Mary, and I don’t truly agree with his thoughts on the Catholic Church here. I don’t know if he would ever have converted, I really doubt it, and I don’t know that I will be back to the Church either. I feel much more lifted in Jesus where I am, but you never know for sure.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
His wife is catholic, but he very recently stated (and his pastor confirmed), he was not converting. He said he respected Catholicism, and while he felt other religions don’t give enough deference to Mary, he struggled strongly with Catholics view of her. Having been raised Catholic and now attending a Church much like the Evangelical Church Charlie Kirk did, I feel this deeply and it caused me a little pause. I have such a strong pull to Mary, and I don’t truly agree with his thoughts on the Catholic Church here. I don’t know if he would ever have converted, I really doubt it, and I don’t know that I will be back to the Church either. I feel much more lifted in Jesus where I am, but you never know for sure.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:04 PM (p4NUW)
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68 Trump isn't gonna fire Bondi...
Posted by: It's me donna
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He said that he wants her to "act now".
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: It's me donna
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He said that he wants her to "act now".
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (Zx8G2)
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Somewhere in YT there is a way to report ads that you find unsuitable for different reasons. You might want to look that up.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (WDjG6)
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He said that he wants her to "act now".
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (Zx8G2)
To "act" she has to get a Grand Jury to agree.... That might not be so easy
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (Zx8G2)
To "act" she has to get a Grand Jury to agree.... That might not be so easy
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2025 01:07 PM (VE6XX)
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He said that he wants her to "act now".
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I have learned to tune out Trump's messaging day to day--he uses words as weapons just like the Dems do which is one of the reasons they hate him and GOP types dislike him.
I think it was more directed at the foot dragging underlings at DoJ and he just fired one Eastern District of VA DA for dragging his feet on going after Leticia for mortgage fraud. One of the cases was in that district.
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I have learned to tune out Trump's messaging day to day--he uses words as weapons just like the Dems do which is one of the reasons they hate him and GOP types dislike him.
I think it was more directed at the foot dragging underlings at DoJ and he just fired one Eastern District of VA DA for dragging his feet on going after Leticia for mortgage fraud. One of the cases was in that district.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:07 PM (WDjG6)
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I struggle with this question frequently in the aftermath of the Kirk assassination. The masks of the Left are off. Like a wounded animal, they're lashing out at normals.
I think any one of us would be willing to take a bullet protecting the weak, women and children. Where the rub is is, are you willing to be silenced, unemployed, arrested, jailed, debanked and bankrupted for refusing to bend a knee to them? If the Left ever gets back into power, that's what's likely to happen.
I struggle with this question frequently in the aftermath of the Kirk assassination. The masks of the Left are off. Like a wounded animal, they're lashing out at normals.
I think any one of us would be willing to take a bullet protecting the weak, women and children. Where the rub is is, are you willing to be silenced, unemployed, arrested, jailed, debanked and bankrupted for refusing to bend a knee to them? If the Left ever gets back into power, that's what's likely to happen.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2025 01:07 PM (tgvbd)
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78 Somewhere in YT there is a way to report ads that you find unsuitable for different reasons. You might want to look that up.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (WDjG6)
Yeah. Done about 50 times.
One of the biggest problems with tech is the fact that they barely, if ever, acknowledge the customer, much less show any interest in customer feedback.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:05 PM (WDjG6)
Yeah. Done about 50 times.
One of the biggest problems with tech is the fact that they barely, if ever, acknowledge the customer, much less show any interest in customer feedback.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:08 PM (bPFPB)
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To "act" she has to get a Grand Jury to agree.... That might not be so easy
Posted by: It's me donna
Not all Grand Juries are in DC or NY. I think the whole logjam that the Senate just cleared over appointees is probably a bigger reason. The civil servant type DoJ are leftover lefties that will foot drag, leak, and do other crap to destroy cases unless an appointee over them can name and point them out to President for firing.
There were several DA appointments in that logjam that have now been confirmed and a larger package is heading for approval now.
Posted by: It's me donna
Not all Grand Juries are in DC or NY. I think the whole logjam that the Senate just cleared over appointees is probably a bigger reason. The civil servant type DoJ are leftover lefties that will foot drag, leak, and do other crap to destroy cases unless an appointee over them can name and point them out to President for firing.
There were several DA appointments in that logjam that have now been confirmed and a larger package is heading for approval now.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:09 PM (WDjG6)
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Or you could pay thirteen bucks a month to not see ads.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (XQo4F)
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One of the biggest problems with tech is the fact that they barely, if ever, acknowledge the customer, much less show any interest in customer feedback.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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We ain't the customer--those databrokers consuming our data are the real tech customers.
Same as far too many GOP pols look at donors as their constituents, not voters.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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We ain't the customer--those databrokers consuming our data are the real tech customers.
Same as far too many GOP pols look at donors as their constituents, not voters.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (WDjG6)
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As a lapsed Catholic I have no room to bitch but that isn't going to stop me in this case. I encourage that Catholics go to the elder of ziyon blog and read the new Pope's position on Israel.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (kurEY)
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Trump's H1B thing is another way to handle this.
Big tech has made $$$ hiring foreigners using American know how. Then they used that money to rent Dem politicians to ensure their respective monopolies.
Raising the H1B cost makes hiring foreigners a worse deal. And if they have to replace them with more Americans they will also have to limit their politician buying and far left advocacy
Big tech has made $$$ hiring foreigners using American know how. Then they used that money to rent Dem politicians to ensure their respective monopolies.
Raising the H1B cost makes hiring foreigners a worse deal. And if they have to replace them with more Americans they will also have to limit their politician buying and far left advocacy
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:13 PM (sKqQm)
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...One way or the other. They’re guilty, they’re not guilty, we have to act fast. If they’re not guilty, that’s fine. If they are guilty, or if they should be charged, they should be charged. And we have to do it now. _Trump
(video:0:0:35) https://tinyurl.com/3jpdmvrx
(video:0:0:35) https://tinyurl.com/3jpdmvrx
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:14 PM (Zx8G2)
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What can be done? What can normals do? I don't know, and nobody else does either. Let's start here.
A big part of this comes back to red state AGs/DAs.
Why isn't transtifa making endless investigations and prosecutions at the state level? Why aren't groomer teachers going on the sex offender registry. And on and on...
A big part of this comes back to red state AGs/DAs.
Why isn't transtifa making endless investigations and prosecutions at the state level? Why aren't groomer teachers going on the sex offender registry. And on and on...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:15 PM (sKqQm)
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>>He said that he wants her to "act now".
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Did you happen to notice his next comment? The one where he said she is doing a great job?
As much as we talk about it I don't think some really understand how corrupt our judicial system has become. It is by far the most corrupt part of the federal government. It took decades to get this corrupt and it isn't going to get fixed in 7 months, particularly when we are the side that plays by the rules.
It's ridiculous for people to keep saying people like Harmeet are doing a great job and then say but her boss is terrible. Trump keeps winning every case at the Supreme Court but Bondi sucks.
He said act five times and within that act now three times.
It's clear what his expectations are. If she does not fulfill them
she's gone.
Did you happen to notice his next comment? The one where he said she is doing a great job?
As much as we talk about it I don't think some really understand how corrupt our judicial system has become. It is by far the most corrupt part of the federal government. It took decades to get this corrupt and it isn't going to get fixed in 7 months, particularly when we are the side that plays by the rules.
It's ridiculous for people to keep saying people like Harmeet are doing a great job and then say but her boss is terrible. Trump keeps winning every case at the Supreme Court but Bondi sucks.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:15 PM (viF8m)
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Thx scampydog. Cardinal Dolan , who at times can be a twit, came out strongly , saying Kirk was a hero and martyr. That will carry a lot of weight with Catholic who might be on the fence
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2025 01:15 PM (lmTGO)
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Augh! This hits me in the gut. I spent the weekend biting my tongue for the sake of peace at a tough time (memorial for a family member) but the lefties there had no such discretion. I had planned something to say when people went off, but ended up staying silent because it would only provoke further hostility from the lefties with no support from the sane people. And I have zero social power on my own.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 21, 2025 01:17 PM (SyuYX)
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86 As a lapsed Catholic I have no room to bitch but that isn't going to stop me in this case. I encourage that Catholics go to the elder of ziyon blog and read the new Pope's position on Israel.
Posted by: Ben Had at September
I am afraid to do this. The last Pope was enough for me, and I was chastised (maybe deservedly) by a friend who is very devout. I am honestly in awe of her devoutness, daily 6a mass, service to the Church, she is the real deal. Anyway, she reminded me that we get the Pope we need, not the one want, and expounded on why. However, my spirit was not moved and I am staying where I am. But I still respect everyone in the faith, and a Latin mass does move me to tears.
Posted by: Ben Had at September
I am afraid to do this. The last Pope was enough for me, and I was chastised (maybe deservedly) by a friend who is very devout. I am honestly in awe of her devoutness, daily 6a mass, service to the Church, she is the real deal. Anyway, she reminded me that we get the Pope we need, not the one want, and expounded on why. However, my spirit was not moved and I am staying where I am. But I still respect everyone in the faith, and a Latin mass does move me to tears.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:17 PM (p4NUW)
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87 Trump's H1B thing is another way to handle this.
Big tech has made $$$ hiring foreigners using American know how. Then they used that money to rent Dem politicians to ensure their respective monopolies.
Raising the H1B cost makes hiring foreigners a worse deal. And if they have to replace them with more Americans they will also have to limit their politician buying and far left advocacy
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:13 PM (sKqQm)
I agree!
Here's the problem: this MUST be encoded into federal law. Congress MUST lock this into place. For when Trump leaves office - he will - these policy changes will be quite easily reversed.
Big tech has made $$$ hiring foreigners using American know how. Then they used that money to rent Dem politicians to ensure their respective monopolies.
Raising the H1B cost makes hiring foreigners a worse deal. And if they have to replace them with more Americans they will also have to limit their politician buying and far left advocacy
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:13 PM (sKqQm)
I agree!
Here's the problem: this MUST be encoded into federal law. Congress MUST lock this into place. For when Trump leaves office - he will - these policy changes will be quite easily reversed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:19 PM (bPFPB)
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Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:17 PM
My belief is you don't have to sit in a Church to be a Religious person...
My belief is you don't have to sit in a Church to be a Religious person...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2025 01:19 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:20 PM (Zx8G2)
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People respond to incentives.
If lefties misusing the powers of their office go to jail the rest will stop doing so.
But since as of now they get cash, prizes, and public acclaim why would they?
If lefties misusing the powers of their office go to jail the rest will stop doing so.
But since as of now they get cash, prizes, and public acclaim why would they?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:21 PM (sKqQm)
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In a continuation of the madness, UK, Australia and Canada have recognized the Palestinian "state".
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 12:06 PM
When do they expel their Jews?
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 12:06 PM
When do they expel their Jews?
Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 01:22 PM (jc0TO)
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It's me donna, AMEN.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:22 PM (kurEY)
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>>>It's ridiculous for people to keep saying people like Harmeet are doing a great job and then say but her boss is terrible. Trump keeps winning every case at the Supreme Court but Bondi sucks.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Your timeline is off. Trump was walking out of a restaurant, his last words were, ' And we have to do it now.'.
https://tinyurl.com/3jpdmvrx
Posted by: JackStraw
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Your timeline is off. Trump was walking out of a restaurant, his last words were, ' And we have to do it now.'.
https://tinyurl.com/3jpdmvrx
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (Zx8G2)
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I had planned something to say when people went off, but ended up staying silent because it would only provoke further hostility from the lefties with no support from the sane people. And I have zero social power on my own.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 21, 2025 01:17 PM (SyuYX)
Oh, Emmie. There is a time and place, and part of why our side works and isn’t a bunch of miscreants is we understand this, and we hold a moral compass. I was just listening to Phil Wickham’s song Battle Belongs on the Charlie Kirk Memorial. It’s says “So when I fight, I fight on my knees with my hands lifted high” and sometimes, that is the right place for our battle.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 21, 2025 01:17 PM (SyuYX)
Oh, Emmie. There is a time and place, and part of why our side works and isn’t a bunch of miscreants is we understand this, and we hold a moral compass. I was just listening to Phil Wickham’s song Battle Belongs on the Charlie Kirk Memorial. It’s says “So when I fight, I fight on my knees with my hands lifted high” and sometimes, that is the right place for our battle.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (p4NUW)
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We ain't the customer--those databrokers consuming our data are the real tech customers.
Same as far too many GOP pols look at donors as their constituents, not voters.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (WDjG6)
Meta? I totally agree. But YouTube? No. We are customers, just as we are customers of media. (They are the only industry that has the motto "The customer is always wrong.") If people stop watching YouTube tomorrow for being sufficiently pissed off, they kiss their ad revenue from quack clickbait scam ads some some legitimate businesses good-bye.
Same as far too many GOP pols look at donors as their constituents, not voters.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (WDjG6)
Meta? I totally agree. But YouTube? No. We are customers, just as we are customers of media. (They are the only industry that has the motto "The customer is always wrong.") If people stop watching YouTube tomorrow for being sufficiently pissed off, they kiss their ad revenue from quack clickbait scam ads some some legitimate businesses good-bye.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (bPFPB)
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I'd rather sit in my boat thinking about God than sit in church thinking about fishing.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
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91 Thx scampydog. Cardinal Dolan , who at times can be a twit, came out strongly , saying Kirk was a hero and martyr. That will carry a lot of weight with Catholic who might be on the fence
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2025 01:15 PM (lmTGO)
*******
Yes. I saw that on F&F
@bennyjohnson
Cardinal Dolan says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
“When I heard the tragic news, I said, ‘I wonder who he was.’ And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming, this overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal.”
“And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist, he's a hero.”
“He's one that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it, Now, I understand he was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way, the mode, the style
Here's the clip-
https://tinyurl.com/mrxv54wy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2025 01:15 PM (lmTGO)
*******
Yes. I saw that on F&F
@bennyjohnson
Cardinal Dolan says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
“When I heard the tragic news, I said, ‘I wonder who he was.’ And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming, this overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal.”
“And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist, he's a hero.”
“He's one that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it, Now, I understand he was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way, the mode, the style
Here's the clip-
https://tinyurl.com/mrxv54wy
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (NpAcC)
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Looking for the best streaming for Charlie's memorial. ABC, Fox has it but maybe something better?
Posted by: Cheri at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (FGQ5G)
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Oh, Emmie. There is a time and place, and part of why our side works and isn’t a bunch of miscreants is we understand this, and we hold a moral compass. I was just listening to Phil Wickham’s song Battle Belongs on the Charlie Kirk Memorial. It’s says “So when I fight, I fight on my knees with my hands lifted high” and sometimes, that is the right place for our battle.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (p4NUW)
I think Isaiah 6:8 applies to Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (p4NUW)
I think Isaiah 6:8 applies to Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (bPFPB)
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he Stupid[/an]ification of Women? The Hate on Campus? Look no Further
Modern educated women are calling in Isis, Jezebel, Hathor, Lilith. All the old bad goddesses of pre-Adamic civilization. Therefore becoming pre-conscious. And fully evil.
https://shorturl.at/BuSj3
Elizabeth Nickson (substack)
Unpossible. They are inherently more moral, stable, composed, self-possessed, good, kind, nurturing and caring than all those nasty horrible smelly violent men. Church and TV tell me so.
Modern educated women are calling in Isis, Jezebel, Hathor, Lilith. All the old bad goddesses of pre-Adamic civilization. Therefore becoming pre-conscious. And fully evil.
https://shorturl.at/BuSj3
Elizabeth Nickson (substack)
Unpossible. They are inherently more moral, stable, composed, self-possessed, good, kind, nurturing and caring than all those nasty horrible smelly violent men. Church and TV tell me so.
Posted by: Can we give up this myth now? at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (TbWk/)
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The British Commonwealth has gone barking mad.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2025 01:25 PM (wWIcc)
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The UK is dead to me
Posted by: night lifted at September 21, 2025 01:26 PM (/YboP)
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>>Your timeline is off. Trump was walking out of a restaurant, his last words were, ' And we have to do it now.'.
No it's not. He posted on Truth a few minutes after that comment that she is doing a great job.
No it's not. He posted on Truth a few minutes after that comment that she is doing a great job.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:26 PM (viF8m)
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Posted by: Can we give up this myth now? at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (TbWk
In the church I serve I don't say that. When I have attended the RCC ,they don't say that either.
In the church I serve I don't say that. When I have attended the RCC ,they don't say that either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:26 PM (lQ+/f)
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Piper, I'll have to look up that song.
They just can't help themselves. They are absolutely consumed with their quest for self-regard (i.e., espousing the "correct" views and hating the right people makes you a morally superior person).
They just can't help themselves. They are absolutely consumed with their quest for self-regard (i.e., espousing the "correct" views and hating the right people makes you a morally superior person).
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 21, 2025 01:26 PM (SyuYX)
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I think AG Bondi is more of a "go-between." She speaks to Congress with her commentary, not necessarily the public. When you placate Congress they tend to say out of your business. It's political, never legal/judicial with them.
Plus, they're generally on the short bus most days and pretty clueless about the goings-on in the real world, so why waste time educating them on something they don't, and can't understand?
Plus, they're generally on the short bus most days and pretty clueless about the goings-on in the real world, so why waste time educating them on something they don't, and can't understand?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2025 01:26 PM (Q4IgG)
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I see in the Nickson substack she mentions another lefty saying "I remember when we shot NAZIs"
Well, I'm actually not old enough to remember that...but I do remember when we shot the international flavor of socialists. Perhaps we need to return to that?
Well, I'm actually not old enough to remember that...but I do remember when we shot the international flavor of socialists. Perhaps we need to return to that?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:27 PM (sKqQm)
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103 I'd rather sit in my boat thinking about God than sit in church thinking about fishing.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I hear you, but I was recently called back to Church after saying I was faithful, but not religious and worshipped in nature. It’s not the same, hearing a message delivered and having your heart touched by the words. I am always amazed at how the sermons seemed to be targeted specifically to me. I am glad I listened to that voice telling me it was time, go back, find a Church home. I hope if you ever get that voice, you listen, too.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I hear you, but I was recently called back to Church after saying I was faithful, but not religious and worshipped in nature. It’s not the same, hearing a message delivered and having your heart touched by the words. I am always amazed at how the sermons seemed to be targeted specifically to me. I am glad I listened to that voice telling me it was time, go back, find a Church home. I hope if you ever get that voice, you listen, too.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:27 PM (p4NUW)
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This is a good moment to review the Spanish Civil War and the monsters unleashed by the Spanish Republic upon it's institutions and citizens. A model the American Communists admire and are still following.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 21, 2025 01:28 PM (URhKg)
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There is international law that defines what a "state" is. And "Palestine" doesn't meet the criteria for statehood.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 21, 2025 12:24 PM (PiwSw)
Europe has reached the Cargo Cult level of international relations.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 21, 2025 12:24 PM (PiwSw)
Europe has reached the Cargo Cult level of international relations.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2025 01:28 PM (rbvCR)
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Cardinal Dolan says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
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My pastor made the same comparison during his message today. Normally he stays out of political things, but because he had seen Charlie in person a few years ago, he was deeply struck by Charlie's assassination.
We are also going through the book of Acts in detail (since summer 2024) and Paul's message resonates throughout time and space.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
----
My pastor made the same comparison during his message today. Normally he stays out of political things, but because he had seen Charlie in person a few years ago, he was deeply struck by Charlie's assassination.
We are also going through the book of Acts in detail (since summer 2024) and Paul's message resonates throughout time and space.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2025 01:29 PM (IBQGV)
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92 Augh! This hits me in the gut. I spent the weekend biting my tongue for the sake of peace at a tough time (memorial for a family member) but the lefties there had no such discretion. I had planned something to say when people went off, but ended up staying silent because it would only provoke further hostility from the lefties with no support from the sane people. And I have zero social power on my own.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous!
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Peachy Keenan@KeenanPeachy
No liberal has ever, EVER, had to sit quietly in a meeting or on a Zoom call and listened to conservative coworkers wishing death on President Biden or announcing openly how much they hate his voters and are glad they don't have to work with any.
Conservatives in mainstream corps have had to do that on a daily basis for 10 years.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous!
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Peachy Keenan@KeenanPeachy
No liberal has ever, EVER, had to sit quietly in a meeting or on a Zoom call and listened to conservative coworkers wishing death on President Biden or announcing openly how much they hate his voters and are glad they don't have to work with any.
Conservatives in mainstream corps have had to do that on a daily basis for 10 years.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 01:29 PM (Zx8G2)
Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2025 01:30 PM (2WIwB)
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The worm is turning and doing a jig.
Posted by: fd at September 21, 2025 01:31 PM (vFG9F)
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86 As a lapsed Catholic I have no room to bitch but that isn't going to stop me in this case. I encourage that Catholics go to the elder of ziyon blog and read the new Pope's position on Israel.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (kurEY)
he new Pope is as big an asshole as Francis.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:11 PM (kurEY)
he new Pope is as big an asshole as Francis.
Posted by: night lifted at September 21, 2025 01:32 PM (/YboP)
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Looking for the best streaming for Charlie's memorial. ABC, Fox has it but maybe something better?
Posted by: Cheri at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (FGQ5G)
*******
I'll be watching it on Fox.
It will be hosted by Kayleigh McEnany and Lawrence Jones,... 2 of my favorites.
Posted by: Cheri at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (FGQ5G)
*******
I'll be watching it on Fox.
It will be hosted by Kayleigh McEnany and Lawrence Jones,... 2 of my favorites.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2025 01:32 PM (NpAcC)
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It is amusing watching the Euro-niks who imprisoned the leaders of the Catalan separatist movement now endorsing the Arabs in Gaza as a nation.
Remember Iberia was three separate nations until the union of Aragon and Castile. And it could easily have seen Portugal and Castile for a union instead of what happened historically.
So, unlike Gaza, Catalonia has a separate history and identity.
Remember Iberia was three separate nations until the union of Aragon and Castile. And it could easily have seen Portugal and Castile for a union instead of what happened historically.
So, unlike Gaza, Catalonia has a separate history and identity.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (sKqQm)
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I think Isaiah 6:8 applies to Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (bPFPB)
Amen.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 01:24 PM (bPFPB)
Amen.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (p4NUW)
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It's just a bare knuckle lunge, now. I like Trump, but if we can retain the advantage after him, we need people who are willing to get their hands much dirtier. Sucks to say, but that's the game.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (BI5O2)
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93 86 As a lapsed Catholic I have no room to bitch but that isn't going to stop me in this case. I encourage that Catholics go to the elder of ziyon blog and read the new Pope's position on Israel.
Posted by: Ben Had at September
That's almost meaningless to being a member of the Catholic faith. I'm not planning on reading it. Popes are wrong all the time b/c they are human, just like you and me. They are only considered perfect when speaking ex cathedra, which they do very rarely.
Think of a Pope like any other world leader. They lead their flock. But they are human and imperfect, and human and imperfect in many ways. They would tell you that, too. It's why we can survive both good and bad Popes as a faith. We started with an imperfect Pope in Peter, so expecting to somehow eventually get a perfect one would be...unrealistic.
Posted by: Ben Had at September
That's almost meaningless to being a member of the Catholic faith. I'm not planning on reading it. Popes are wrong all the time b/c they are human, just like you and me. They are only considered perfect when speaking ex cathedra, which they do very rarely.
Think of a Pope like any other world leader. They lead their flock. But they are human and imperfect, and human and imperfect in many ways. They would tell you that, too. It's why we can survive both good and bad Popes as a faith. We started with an imperfect Pope in Peter, so expecting to somehow eventually get a perfect one would be...unrealistic.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (tOcjL)
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Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2025 01:32 PM (NpAcC)
We prayed in church today for the safety of all of the attendees at the service in AZ.
We prayed in church today for the safety of all of the attendees at the service in AZ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:34 PM (lQ+/f)
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But since as of now they get cash, prizes, and public acclaim why would they?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:21 PM (sKqQm)
See also women filing for divorce.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:21 PM (sKqQm)
See also women filing for divorce.
Posted by: Get more of what you subsidize at September 21, 2025 01:34 PM (TbWk/)
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Did you know that there's a connection between Act Blue, the unhuman known as Destiny and Charlie Kirk?
https://tinyurl.com/fje29mkw
https://tinyurl.com/fje29mkw
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 21, 2025 01:35 PM (uHi2H)
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See also women filing for divorce.
This comes into play with a million different current pathologies. We pay people do to the wrong thing, and tax/penalize them to do the right thing and are SHOCKED then that people do the wrong things.
This comes into play with a million different current pathologies. We pay people do to the wrong thing, and tax/penalize them to do the right thing and are SHOCKED then that people do the wrong things.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)
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If you want the Memorial, without the commentary, etc.
here's Turning Point USA stream:
https://is.gd/zGbDj0
If you want the Memorial, without the commentary, etc.
here's Turning Point USA stream:
https://is.gd/zGbDj0
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (7MEXJ)
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So, unlike Gaza, Catalonia has a separate history and identity.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (sKqQm)
Trump stating that Catalonia and the Basque Country could be considered nations as well would make heads explode.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:33 PM (sKqQm)
Trump stating that Catalonia and the Basque Country could be considered nations as well would make heads explode.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (rbvCR)
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They are only considered perfect when speaking ex cathedra, which they do very rarely.
And even when they do, it's still a bunch of Papal bull.
And even when they do, it's still a bunch of Papal bull.
Posted by: Just a man, with a bigger hat at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)
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And even when they do, it's still a bunch of Papal bull.
Posted by: Just a man, with a bigger hat at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)
Beautiful. Now Leo will play Goebbels for the Palestinians
Posted by: Just a man, with a bigger hat at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)
Beautiful. Now Leo will play Goebbels for the Palestinians
Posted by: night lifted at September 21, 2025 01:38 PM (/YboP)
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The lower AG personal are way more important than the AG
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 01:40 PM (+qU29)
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Meta? I totally agree. But YouTube? No. We are customers, just as we are customers of media. (They are the only industry that has the motto "The customer is always wrong.") If people stop watching YouTube tomorrow for being sufficiently pissed off, they kiss their ad revenue from quack clickbait scam ads some some legitimate businesses good-bye.
Posted by: Cow Demon
You tube is actually a loss leader for Google. They do it so they can harvest information to sell via AdSense (recently has a new name) and that is why they want logins versus just guessing who you are via IP and search history. If Youtube was spun off from Google, it would immediately have require subscriptions for its products, if for no other reason, than to pay talent, pay copyright fees, etc.
They might offer a few things free like Rumble does but overall they would have to charge for the content.
Posted by: Cow Demon
You tube is actually a loss leader for Google. They do it so they can harvest information to sell via AdSense (recently has a new name) and that is why they want logins versus just guessing who you are via IP and search history. If Youtube was spun off from Google, it would immediately have require subscriptions for its products, if for no other reason, than to pay talent, pay copyright fees, etc.
They might offer a few things free like Rumble does but overall they would have to charge for the content.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:41 PM (WDjG6)
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We read it in these very same grey boxes. When Charlie Kirk was killed people everywhere knew that the world had lost a good man. A Godly man. We felt it. Even among people who didn't know him felt the shift.
Yes indeed. And we are learning there is a limit to our patience. We are awake and we are pissed off.
Yes indeed. And we are learning there is a limit to our patience. We are awake and we are pissed off.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2025 01:41 PM (2WIwB)
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This comes into play with a million different current pathologies. We pay people do to the wrong thing, and tax/penalize them to do the right thing and are SHOCKED then that people do the wrong things.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)
Absolutely. Divorce is just one of the easier and more relatable systems where we see this playing out. The intergenerational poverty/welfare cycle is another, single motherhood is another (which relate to each other). Responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity - if those typify your life then watch out, you're going to take it in the shorts.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)
Absolutely. Divorce is just one of the easier and more relatable systems where we see this playing out. The intergenerational poverty/welfare cycle is another, single motherhood is another (which relate to each other). Responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity - if those typify your life then watch out, you're going to take it in the shorts.
Posted by: Reward evil, punish good, and cry about the results at September 21, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)
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So, unlike Gaza, Catalonia has a separate history and identity.
Posted by: 18-1
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EU, for all the history around them, has leaders that simply cannot learn from past mistakes. History does no good to a decision maker that refuses to learn its lessons.
Posted by: 18-1
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EU, for all the history around them, has leaders that simply cannot learn from past mistakes. History does no good to a decision maker that refuses to learn its lessons.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 01:42 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Kraft I think at September 21, 2025 01:43 PM (TbWk/)
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It's all about the healing. Everything else is just religious activity.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2025 01:43 PM (XQo4F)
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Yes. I saw that on F&F
@bennyjohnson
Cardinal Dolan says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
“When I heard the tragic news, I said, ‘I wonder who he was.’ And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming, this overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal.”
“And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist, he's a hero.”
“He's one that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it, Now, I understand he was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way, the mode, the style
Here's the clip-
https://tinyurl.com/mrxv54wy
Interesting. I had been a bit undecided when I had heard his widow, Erika Kirk, proclaim Charlie to be a martyr. With various Catholic clergy speaking about different aspects of Charlie's life, I now believe that he was a martyr.
Yes. I saw that on F&F
@bennyjohnson
Cardinal Dolan says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
“When I heard the tragic news, I said, ‘I wonder who he was.’ And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming, this overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal.”
“And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist, he's a hero.”
“He's one that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it, Now, I understand he was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way, the mode, the style
Here's the clip-
https://tinyurl.com/mrxv54wy
Interesting. I had been a bit undecided when I had heard his widow, Erika Kirk, proclaim Charlie to be a martyr. With various Catholic clergy speaking about different aspects of Charlie's life, I now believe that he was a martyr.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:43 PM (pJWtt)
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We prayed in church today for the safety of all of the attendees at the service in AZ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:34 PM (lQ+/f)
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That's wonderful.
The priest las Sunday had a beautiful sermon about Charlie.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:34 PM (lQ+/f)
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That's wonderful.
The priest las Sunday had a beautiful sermon about Charlie.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2025 01:43 PM (NpAcC)
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Bring back Western religion. Regardless of your belief system, It’s not just a moral compass; it's foundational to our country.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
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64 Let's recognize Scotland and Quebec as separate states. - Hadrian the Seventh
I think this is a first rate idea.
I think this is a first rate idea.
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 01:45 PM (mADJX)
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I really wish people realized we can't afford the luxury of trading in Cabinet Members for someone a little better.
We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year. And we'll, once again, look back and remember how we squandered it all away because we're stupid and we have short memories.
Now is not the time for nitpicking bullshit nonsense. We are on the precipice of disaster, still.
I really wish people realized we can't afford the luxury of trading in Cabinet Members for someone a little better.
We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year. And we'll, once again, look back and remember how we squandered it all away because we're stupid and we have short memories.
Now is not the time for nitpicking bullshit nonsense. We are on the precipice of disaster, still.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:46 PM (7MEXJ)
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145 Bring back Western religion. Regardless of your belief system, It’s not just a moral compass; it's foundational to our country.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by this.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by this.
Posted by: Discussing religion on a Sunday? What? at September 21, 2025 01:47 PM (TbWk/)
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Anyone else overwhelmed all over again seeing all of these people going into the stadium and singing worship songs? Also, the secret service guys on the roof were hyping up the crowd.
Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (p4NUW)
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[v]This comes into play with a million different current pathologies. We pay people do to the wrong thing, and tax/penalize them to do the right thing and are SHOCKED then that people do the wrong things.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)
Absolutely. Divorce is just one of the easier and more relatable systems where we see this playing out. The intergenerational poverty/welfare cycle is another, single motherhood is another (which relate to each other). Responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity - if those typify your life then watch out, you're going to take it in the shorts.
Posted by: Reward evil, punish good, and cry about the results at September 21, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)
Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? That's a pile of pessimistic bull$s!t.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)
Absolutely. Divorce is just one of the easier and more relatable systems where we see this playing out. The intergenerational poverty/welfare cycle is another, single motherhood is another (which relate to each other). Responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity - if those typify your life then watch out, you're going to take it in the shorts.
Posted by: Reward evil, punish good, and cry about the results at September 21, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)
Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? That's a pile of pessimistic bull$s!t.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (pJWtt)
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The leftists I know on Facebook and from the industry I worked in are not toning it down. A guy I was in the same legal industry with posted a long screed about MAGA whining about Kirk being killed . He's in his late 60s , just like others I've posted about here. They will not change
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (lmTGO)
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"We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year".
You don't know that . Nobody does. Either way.
"We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year".
You don't know that . Nobody does. Either way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (ZeH0U)
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>>Yes indeed. And we are learning there is a limit to our patience. We are awake and we are pissed off.
The stadium in Arizona for Charlie's memorial service filled up as soon as the doors were open. They have opened up another arena for the overflow crowd.
Turning Point says they have been contacted by 60,000 groups looking to add new chapters. Churches are hitting record attendance.
This is not a staged event, it's organic. Normal people have had enough.
The stadium in Arizona for Charlie's memorial service filled up as soon as the doors were open. They have opened up another arena for the overflow crowd.
Turning Point says they have been contacted by 60,000 groups looking to add new chapters. Churches are hitting record attendance.
This is not a staged event, it's organic. Normal people have had enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (viF8m)
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Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? That's a pile of pessimistic bull$s!t.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (pJWtt)
You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried. Let out some that reactionary hate in your heart and create some room for literacy, because I didn't say that at all.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (pJWtt)
You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried. Let out some that reactionary hate in your heart and create some room for literacy, because I didn't say that at all.
Posted by: Ah, the deliberately obtuse. God bless 'em. at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (TbWk/)
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Richard Dawkins, the famous atheist, started to realize this towards the end of his life. He had always dismissed religious faith, but finally stated to see that it was the foundation of all western civilization. Break the foundations, break all that rested on them.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Richard Dawkins, the famous atheist, started to realize this towards the end of his life. He had always dismissed religious faith, but finally stated to see that it was the foundation of all western civilization. Break the foundations, break all that rested on them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (5Gg6R)
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We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year. ...
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:46 PM (7MEXJ)
You don't know that . Nobody does. Either way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (ZeH0U)
Despair is a sin.
I really tire of the "All is lost ... surrender!!!!" chorus.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:46 PM (7MEXJ)
You don't know that . Nobody does. Either way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (ZeH0U)
Despair is a sin.
I really tire of the "All is lost ... surrender!!!!" chorus.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:51 PM (pJWtt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:52 PM (ZeH0U)
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Turning Point says they have been contacted by 60,000 groups looking to add new chapters. Churches are hitting record attendance.
This is not a staged event, it's organic. Normal people have had enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (viF8m)
Indeed. The usual suspects will scream from the rooftops that it's manufactured by Jews or Nazis or Nazi Jews or something, but only because everything they do is astroturf, centrally planned, fake and gay. They wouldn't know organic, individual, sincerely held belief if it bit them on their unwashed arses, and cannot fathom that it exists.
This is not a staged event, it's organic. Normal people have had enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (viF8m)
Indeed. The usual suspects will scream from the rooftops that it's manufactured by Jews or Nazis or Nazi Jews or something, but only because everything they do is astroturf, centrally planned, fake and gay. They wouldn't know organic, individual, sincerely held belief if it bit them on their unwashed arses, and cannot fathom that it exists.
Posted by: Projection. River. Egypt. at September 21, 2025 01:52 PM (TbWk/)
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148 145 Bring back Western religion. Regardless of your belief system, It’s not just a moral compass; it's foundational to our country.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by this.
Posted by: Discussing religion on a Sunday? What? at September 21, 2025 01:47 PM (TbWk/)
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Religion as a means to an end is unworkable. It is inherently directed toward the ultimate end. To do otherwise will debase it. And lead to unfortunate results.
________
That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by this.
Posted by: Discussing religion on a Sunday? What? at September 21, 2025 01:47 PM (TbWk/)
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Religion as a means to an end is unworkable. It is inherently directed toward the ultimate end. To do otherwise will debase it. And lead to unfortunate results.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (s0JqF)
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Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? That's a pile of pessimistic bull$s!t.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (pJWtt)
You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried. Let out some that reactionary hate in your heart and create some room for literacy, because I didn't say that at all.
Posted by: Ah, the deliberately obtuse. God bless 'em. at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (TbWk/)
Whatevs, Scogg.
If you reject "...responsibility, decency, commitment, integrity..." it's no wonder that your life is crappy. Take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:48 PM (pJWtt)
You couldn't have missed the point harder if you tried. Let out some that reactionary hate in your heart and create some room for literacy, because I didn't say that at all.
Posted by: Ah, the deliberately obtuse. God bless 'em. at September 21, 2025 01:50 PM (TbWk/)
Whatevs, Scogg.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (pJWtt)
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I really wish people realized we can't afford the luxury of trading in Cabinet Members for someone a little better.
We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year. And we'll, once again, look back and remember how we squandered it all away because we're stupid and we have short memories.
Now is not the time for nitpicking bullshit nonsense. We are on the precipice of disaster, still.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:46 PM (7MEXJ)
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I am fine with Pam Bondi.
I wish people would stop with the trashing of Trump's cabinet. All it does it cause a fracture in the party.
I really wish people realized we can't afford the luxury of trading in Cabinet Members for someone a little better.
We are going to lose the House and probably the Senate, next year. And we'll, once again, look back and remember how we squandered it all away because we're stupid and we have short memories.
Now is not the time for nitpicking bullshit nonsense. We are on the precipice of disaster, still.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 21, 2025 01:46 PM (7MEXJ)
******
I am fine with Pam Bondi.
I wish people would stop with the trashing of Trump's cabinet. All it does it cause a fracture in the party.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (NpAcC)
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Whatevs, Scogg.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (pJWtt)
Incorrect. Again.
Whatevs, Scogg.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (pJWtt)
Incorrect. Again.
Posted by: Now it's just sad at September 21, 2025 01:54 PM (TbWk/)
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What really happened is that for 10 years the normies have kind of tuned out the left's scream of RACISTEVILFASCISTNAZIHITLER as just something they said about people that didn't agree with them.
What happened last week was a man was murdered in cold blood and the left used those exact same words to justify his murder.
They realized those exact same labels had been applied to THEM at some point when they disagreed with something the left said.
And for a LOT of normies, the lightbulb went on.
It wasn't just noise.
THE LEFT WOULD ACTUALLY MURDER THEM IF THE LEFT THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT
Once they saw behind the Matrix there's no going back.
What happened last week was a man was murdered in cold blood and the left used those exact same words to justify his murder.
They realized those exact same labels had been applied to THEM at some point when they disagreed with something the left said.
And for a LOT of normies, the lightbulb went on.
It wasn't just noise.
THE LEFT WOULD ACTUALLY MURDER THEM IF THE LEFT THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT
Once they saw behind the Matrix there's no going back.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at September 21, 2025 01:54 PM (setIA)
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Bondi is the weak link in Trumps administration. If the dems start pressuring her like they did with the Epstein files, she will make more dumb mistakes, making TRUMP look bad. He has to be thinking g about plan B with her.
Posted by: Megthered at September 21, 2025 01:54 PM (kueL3)
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>> We've reached peak nice. It's over.
If you haven't watched the video of the Charlie Kirk assassination, as difficult as it is to watch, you should look at it, he was murdered in public, the death was horrific and it was conducted in front a mass of people including his wife and 3 year old daughter who were standing just off stage and saw their husband and father executed in front of them.
Watch it so it steels your spine and gives you purpose, and mission to impose our moral vision, because Charlies fate is what the left intends for all of us and that is how they intend to impose their moral vision upon us.
If you haven't watched the video of the Charlie Kirk assassination, as difficult as it is to watch, you should look at it, he was murdered in public, the death was horrific and it was conducted in front a mass of people including his wife and 3 year old daughter who were standing just off stage and saw their husband and father executed in front of them.
Watch it so it steels your spine and gives you purpose, and mission to impose our moral vision, because Charlies fate is what the left intends for all of us and that is how they intend to impose their moral vision upon us.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2025 01:55 PM (XV/Pl)
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Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (pJWtt)
I don't think that's Scogg.
I don't think that's Scogg.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 01:55 PM (ZeH0U)
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>>Despair is a sin.
>>I really tire of the "All is lost ... surrender!!!!" chorus.
The latest RCP average of polls has the D vs R separated by 1 point. Anyone who pays attention to polls knows this means Republicans are winning as of right now.
It's dumb to be dooming while Republican states are redoing their districts to add Republican seats in the House and all the momentum is on our side. It will be interesting to see the turnout at the RNC convention, yes there is going to be one, next year.
>>I really tire of the "All is lost ... surrender!!!!" chorus.
The latest RCP average of polls has the D vs R separated by 1 point. Anyone who pays attention to polls knows this means Republicans are winning as of right now.
It's dumb to be dooming while Republican states are redoing their districts to add Republican seats in the House and all the momentum is on our side. It will be interesting to see the turnout at the RNC convention, yes there is going to be one, next year.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2025 01:55 PM (viF8m)
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TBH I expect significant gains in congress in '26. Trump has been doing a good job and he's doing some of the tougher things right now, early, as he should, like the H1B stuff.
But it mostly comes down to the perceived state of the economy next year...
But it mostly comes down to the perceived state of the economy next year...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:56 PM (sKqQm)
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127 That's almost meaningless to being a member of the Catholic faith. I'm not planning on reading it. Popes are wrong all the time b/c they are human, just like you and me. They are only considered perfect when speaking ex cathedra, which they do very rarely.
Think of a Pope like any other world leader. They lead their flock. But they are human and imperfect, and human and imperfect in many ways. They would tell you that, too. It's why we can survive both good and bad Popes as a faith. We started with an imperfect Pope in Peter, so expecting to somehow eventually get a perfect one would be...unrealistic.
I agree. I am a practicing Catholic, and when things look bleak within the church, I always recollect something I read a long time ago (I do not remember the author of the observation): Never does the church so closely resemble our Lord than when broken and betrayed from within. Also, and more importantly, I recall the words of Our Lord: the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church. That doesn't mean that the devil might not win the occasional battle, only that he will lose the war in God's good time.
Think of a Pope like any other world leader. They lead their flock. But they are human and imperfect, and human and imperfect in many ways. They would tell you that, too. It's why we can survive both good and bad Popes as a faith. We started with an imperfect Pope in Peter, so expecting to somehow eventually get a perfect one would be...unrealistic.
I agree. I am a practicing Catholic, and when things look bleak within the church, I always recollect something I read a long time ago (I do not remember the author of the observation): Never does the church so closely resemble our Lord than when broken and betrayed from within. Also, and more importantly, I recall the words of Our Lord: the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church. That doesn't mean that the devil might not win the occasional battle, only that he will lose the war in God's good time.
Posted by: Paco at September 21, 2025 01:56 PM (mADJX)
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Out of curiosity I went to the Vatican news site and read Pope Leo called for peace.
He expressed solidarity with "our brothers and sisters suffering " there and called for ceasefire, release of hostages, diplomatic solution, and end to violence.
Basically could have been Trump's own words from earlier.
Seems boilerplate for any Pope post Crusades era.
He expressed solidarity with "our brothers and sisters suffering " there and called for ceasefire, release of hostages, diplomatic solution, and end to violence.
Basically could have been Trump's own words from earlier.
Seems boilerplate for any Pope post Crusades era.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 21, 2025 01:57 PM (eZ5tL)
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Trump, Bondi, his other cabinet officials, etc... they're better than last time, and fine for the moment, on balance. But we need a tougher set of people in the next round. One step at a time, but always further and harder, relentlessly.
You can't expect Trump or his people to annihilate the Left. But they can make room for that.
You can't expect Trump or his people to annihilate the Left. But they can make room for that.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2025 01:58 PM (BI5O2)
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Charlie has and will become larger than life.
Posted by: jsg at September 21, 2025 01:58 PM (7Kd+r)
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Religion as a means to an end is unworkable. It is inherently directed toward the ultimate end. To do otherwise will debase it. And lead to unfortunate results.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (s0JqF)
OK, I see what you mean. I wasn't sure if you were talking about religion having an impact on the present material versus the eternal, in a cosmological way, or of viewing religion in purely material utilitarian terms. Or of establishing a religion purely as a means of social control. However, could not one posit that Christianity is both means and ends, i.e. the redemption of man's soul through the propitiatory act of Jesus' death and resurrection, and restoring mankind/creation to God.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:53 PM (s0JqF)
OK, I see what you mean. I wasn't sure if you were talking about religion having an impact on the present material versus the eternal, in a cosmological way, or of viewing religion in purely material utilitarian terms. Or of establishing a religion purely as a means of social control. However, could not one posit that Christianity is both means and ends, i.e. the redemption of man's soul through the propitiatory act of Jesus' death and resurrection, and restoring mankind/creation to God.
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Bondi should be the Earl Schieb of Justice, we shout! Every case done in 30 days or less !!
Ask the lawyers here how long it takes to prepare a case.
Ask the lawyers here how long it takes to prepare a case.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:59 PM (kurEY)
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The latest RCP average of polls has the D vs R separated by 1 point. Anyone who pays attention to polls knows this means Republicans are winning as of right now.
I suspect the Dems will have higher then average turnout...in their deep blue enclaves.
This won't help them in the red areas they need to win and the purple areas where they have been doing everything they can to turn moderates against them.
But...as I've said before, it comes the economy next year.
One fun part of this though - Trump can to things that deeply hard the economy in those deep blue areas and pay no price since there is no chance he is winning SF, or Boston, or Chicago, etc.
I suspect the Dems will have higher then average turnout...in their deep blue enclaves.
This won't help them in the red areas they need to win and the purple areas where they have been doing everything they can to turn moderates against them.
But...as I've said before, it comes the economy next year.
One fun part of this though - Trump can to things that deeply hard the economy in those deep blue areas and pay no price since there is no chance he is winning SF, or Boston, or Chicago, etc.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2025 01:59 PM (sKqQm)
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@169 Paco, spot on. No matter how many crappy or corrupt Popes and hierarchy there have been the faith and the Church endures. Pope Franky was a modernist yutz , but people stayed faithful. Pope Leo may be as bad, the jury is out this far, but the faith will survive
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2025 02:00 PM (lmTGO)
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Jets Bucs is a really awful game.
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If you haven't watched the video of the Charlie Kirk assassination, as difficult as it is to watch, you should look at it, he was murdered in public, the death was horrific and it was conducted in front a mass of people including his wife and 3 year old daughter who were standing just off stage and saw their husband and father executed in front of them.
Watch it so it steels your spine and gives you purpose, and mission to impose our moral vision, because Charlies fate is what the left intends for all of us and that is how they intend to impose their moral vision upon us.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2025 01:55 PM (XV/Pl)
Avert not your eyes. It's like abortion. It's disgusting and bloody and evil and goddammit you need to see it for what it is and never forget. Look at the horror because it's real and you need to know exactly what it is we're dealing with.
Watch it so it steels your spine and gives you purpose, and mission to impose our moral vision, because Charlies fate is what the left intends for all of us and that is how they intend to impose their moral vision upon us.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2025 01:55 PM (XV/Pl)
Avert not your eyes. It's like abortion. It's disgusting and bloody and evil and goddammit you need to see it for what it is and never forget. Look at the horror because it's real and you need to know exactly what it is we're dealing with.
Posted by: No ostriching allowed at September 21, 2025 02:01 PM (TbWk/)
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Thanks very much for your essay, ScampyDog.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2025 02:02 PM (ZeH0U)
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1WP NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 02:02 PM (+qU29)
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174 Bondi should be the Earl Schieb of Justice, we shout! Every case done in 30 days or less !!
Ask the lawyers here how long it takes to prepare a case.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:59 PM (kurEY)
$99.95, no ups, no extras!
Ask the lawyers here how long it takes to prepare a case.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 01:59 PM (kurEY)
$99.95, no ups, no extras!
Posted by: If only at September 21, 2025 02:03 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: IrishEi at September 21, 2025 02:04 PM (3ImbR)
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Trust in Him at all times. Ye people pour out your heart before Him. God is a refuge for us. Psalm 62:8
Posted by: Kingsman at September 21, 2025 02:04 PM (ehY6c)
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182 Hadrian:
Going to a Latin mass in a little bit.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 21, 2025 02:04 PM (3ImbR)
Ay ay ay!
Going to a Latin mass in a little bit.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 21, 2025 02:04 PM (3ImbR)
Ay ay ay!
Posted by: Wait, wrong Latin at September 21, 2025 02:05 PM (TbWk/)
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Nope. I didn't watch this guy get capped in his neck, I don't watch babies get mutilated, or any of that shit. I've seen enough violence and generalized evil in my life, i expect to see much more of it, and I don't need to see gruesome videos to teach me what it's about.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2025 02:05 PM (BI5O2)
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148 145 Bring back Western religion. Regardless of your belief system, It’s not just a moral compass; it's foundational to our country.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
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For clarity (what was rattling around in my head when I wrote that) - I am approaching this from the perspective that the Founding Fathers drew on Judeo-Christian beliefs when shaping the nation’s framework. Our laws, as well as our ideas of duties and rights, were influenced by that tradition. By “foundational,” I mean that religion provided the base from which our national values grew. Without those religious underpinnings, I would argue, society risks losing its moral grounding. To your point, it cannot be the means to an end as a nation.
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That won't work. Read C S Lewis on this. You cannot have a religion that exists for the sake of some other end. At least, not a fully developed one. Polytheistic paganism CAN exist for the sake of the country. But nothing higher.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2025 01:44 PM (s0JqF)
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For clarity (what was rattling around in my head when I wrote that) - I am approaching this from the perspective that the Founding Fathers drew on Judeo-Christian beliefs when shaping the nation’s framework. Our laws, as well as our ideas of duties and rights, were influenced by that tradition. By “foundational,” I mean that religion provided the base from which our national values grew. Without those religious underpinnings, I would argue, society risks losing its moral grounding. To your point, it cannot be the means to an end as a nation.
Posted by: scampydog at September 21, 2025 02:06 PM (41CYW)
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vmom, you can see a quite different statement that he put on X. Pope Leo XIV at pontifex.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 02:06 PM (kurEY)
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Pontifex sounds like it should be a Catholic extreme motorsports event
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 02:12 PM (Zx8G2)
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Relating to Trump's statement,...' No, I just want people to act. They have to act, and we want to act fast....' on Bondi.
Here is a compromise post between oust Bondi and Bondi is great:
Trump tells AG Bondi that “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED NOW”.
However, Trump is not actually talking to Bondi here. He is her boss. He does not need social media to talk to her.
He is talking to us.
He is letting us know that he hears our frustration and that justice is coming
Here is a compromise post between oust Bondi and Bondi is great:
Trump tells AG Bondi that “JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED NOW”.
However, Trump is not actually talking to Bondi here. He is her boss. He does not need social media to talk to her.
He is talking to us.
He is letting us know that he hears our frustration and that justice is coming
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 02:12 PM (Zx8G2)
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Ben Had, this one? This is boilerplate Vatican diplospeak
"Dear representatives of various Catholic associations, committed to showing solidarity with the population of the Gaza Strip! I appreciate your initiative and the many others throughout the Church that express closeness to the brothers and sisters suffering in that tormented land. Together with you and the pastors of the Churches in the Holy Land, I repeat: there is no future based on violence, forced exile, or revenge. People need peace: those who truly love them, work for peace."
"Dear representatives of various Catholic associations, committed to showing solidarity with the population of the Gaza Strip! I appreciate your initiative and the many others throughout the Church that express closeness to the brothers and sisters suffering in that tormented land. Together with you and the pastors of the Churches in the Holy Land, I repeat: there is no future based on violence, forced exile, or revenge. People need peace: those who truly love them, work for peace."
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 21, 2025 02:18 PM (dE3DB)
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194 Ben Had, this one? This is boilerplate Vatican diplospeak
"Dear representatives of various Catholic associations, committed to showing solidarity with the population of the Gaza Strip! I appreciate your initiative and the many others throughout the Church that express closeness to the brothers and sisters suffering in that tormented land. Together with you and the pastors of the Churches in the Holy Land, I repeat: there is no future based on violence, forced exile, or revenge. People need peace: those who truly love them, work for peace."
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 21, 2025 02:18 PM (dE3DB)
That's rather flaccid.
"Dear representatives of various Catholic associations, committed to showing solidarity with the population of the Gaza Strip! I appreciate your initiative and the many others throughout the Church that express closeness to the brothers and sisters suffering in that tormented land. Together with you and the pastors of the Churches in the Holy Land, I repeat: there is no future based on violence, forced exile, or revenge. People need peace: those who truly love them, work for peace."
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 21, 2025 02:18 PM (dE3DB)
That's rather flaccid.
Posted by: Sounds like "bothsideism" to me at September 21, 2025 02:30 PM (TbWk/)
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Vmom, no the one where he says he stands in profound closeness with the palestinian people and gazans that are being forced to live in fear and unacceptable conditions and being forced from their land.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 02:32 PM (kurEY)
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196 Vmom, no the one where he says he stands in profound closeness with the palestinian people and gazans that are being forced to live in fear and unacceptable conditions and being forced from their land.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 02:32 PM (kurEY)
That's way worse.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 02:32 PM (kurEY)
That's way worse.
Posted by: He's not just wrong, he's on the other side entirely at September 21, 2025 02:42 PM (TbWk/)
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Ben Had, ok I found it
I express my profound closeness to the Palestinian people in Gaza, who continue to live in fear and to survive in unacceptable conditions, forced once again from their own lands. Before Almighty God, who commanded “Thou shalt not kill,” and throughout human history, every person always has an inviolable dignity, to be respected and upheld. I renew my appeal for a ceasefire, the release of hostages, and a negotiated diplomatic solution, in full respect of international humanitarian law. I invite everyone to join my heartfelt prayer that a dawn of peace and justice may soon arise.
I see where "forced once again from their own lands" is a problem.
I express my profound closeness to the Palestinian people in Gaza, who continue to live in fear and to survive in unacceptable conditions, forced once again from their own lands. Before Almighty God, who commanded “Thou shalt not kill,” and throughout human history, every person always has an inviolable dignity, to be respected and upheld. I renew my appeal for a ceasefire, the release of hostages, and a negotiated diplomatic solution, in full respect of international humanitarian law. I invite everyone to join my heartfelt prayer that a dawn of peace and justice may soon arise.
I see where "forced once again from their own lands" is a problem.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 21, 2025 02:48 PM (dE3DB)
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vmom, thank you for looking.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 02:58 PM (kurEY)
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This is so different than many years ago.
AI - While both the 1960s and 1970s experienced significant radicalism and violence, the nature and visibility of these phenomena differed between the two decades. The 1960s saw widespread, large-scale public protests and the assassinations of prominent political figures, while the 1970s saw protest movements decline and some radicalism turn inward, with small, underground groups embracing violence.
Now it seems we've moved quickly towards a divided society with mutually distrustful "us versus them" camps, pernicious polarization.
>The Conversation: A brief history of Bella Ciao, the anti-fascist Italian song cited in the Charlie Kirk shooting
Published: Sep. 16, 2025
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I don't know how to change the path, the pattern. Many young people have hours to stream & game; their parents' medical coverage until they're well past age 18, often receive substantial support - financial and otherwise - from family, government so it can be quite a time not to deal with reality, engage in the world of fantasy.
And then there's 'adults' who can't be bad professors, parents, employers & say, "No," & the political actors who also use them.
AI - While both the 1960s and 1970s experienced significant radicalism and violence, the nature and visibility of these phenomena differed between the two decades. The 1960s saw widespread, large-scale public protests and the assassinations of prominent political figures, while the 1970s saw protest movements decline and some radicalism turn inward, with small, underground groups embracing violence.
Now it seems we've moved quickly towards a divided society with mutually distrustful "us versus them" camps, pernicious polarization.
>The Conversation: A brief history of Bella Ciao, the anti-fascist Italian song cited in the Charlie Kirk shooting
Published: Sep. 16, 2025
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I don't know how to change the path, the pattern. Many young people have hours to stream & game; their parents' medical coverage until they're well past age 18, often receive substantial support - financial and otherwise - from family, government so it can be quite a time not to deal with reality, engage in the world of fantasy.
And then there's 'adults' who can't be bad professors, parents, employers & say, "No," & the political actors who also use them.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 21, 2025 03:21 PM (NFX2v)
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Again, The Conversation, referenced above,
"In a 1946 article for the Tribune newspaper, George Orwell declared:
The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.
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CAN we possibly change, meet part way from being 'Right' to 'We' Fighters? Again, IDK.
AI Overview - While it is theoretically possible for the U.S. to shift from a "right fighters" to a "we fighters" culture, a move of this magnitude would require widespread, sustained, and coordinated effort. Experts indicate that the country is currently in a state of deep political polarization, making a fundamental change difficult, though polls suggest many Americans desire greater unity.
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While I don't think U.S. civil war is ahead, but sustained guerilla warfare tactics could be & over time might develop to a people's war and all segments of our society.
Try, try hard to find unity, but prepare for rejection, too.
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Excellent post, Scampydog.
"In a 1946 article for the Tribune newspaper, George Orwell declared:
The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.
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CAN we possibly change, meet part way from being 'Right' to 'We' Fighters? Again, IDK.
AI Overview - While it is theoretically possible for the U.S. to shift from a "right fighters" to a "we fighters" culture, a move of this magnitude would require widespread, sustained, and coordinated effort. Experts indicate that the country is currently in a state of deep political polarization, making a fundamental change difficult, though polls suggest many Americans desire greater unity.
--
While I don't think U.S. civil war is ahead, but sustained guerilla warfare tactics could be & over time might develop to a people's war and all segments of our society.
Try, try hard to find unity, but prepare for rejection, too.
------
Excellent post, Scampydog.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 21, 2025 03:21 PM (NFX2v)
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My God, stop with the unity crap
Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 21, 2025 05:04 PM (ciYHQ)
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It’s nice to think there’s a broad swath of people from center left to center right that are horrified at the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That they will repudiate the response of so many Democrats and democrat-adjacent. I don’t think that’s going to be the case. I think the center left will put the senselessness out of mind and rationalize the media and politician behavior.
Things will go way sideways before they get better. The only thing that will sidetrack the long march is a massive galvanizing event that forces a unified national effort. September 11 wasn’t close to being enough.
Things will go way sideways before they get better. The only thing that will sidetrack the long march is a massive galvanizing event that forces a unified national effort. September 11 wasn’t close to being enough.
Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2025 05:07 PM (jO4mz)
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Mocking works. Point, laugh, and watch them wring themselves into hyperventilating gyrations. Then point and laugh harder.
But be ready to shoot them at a moment's notice.
But be ready to shoot them at a moment's notice.
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 05:08 PM (ZiSlk)
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