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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
One way research can help to get things back on track is by broadening the criteria governments use to assess railway investment, says Christian Wolmar, an independent transport consultant and author based in London. All too often, these are based on narrow metrics of profitability or ‘time saved’ by potential users, with insufficient consideration of the wider social and environmental impacts. Economists, other social scientists and sustainability researchers can all contribute to developing more-robust assessments of these indirect benefits.
Ah yes...change the metrics so that trains look better, and poof! Trains will look better. By all means, avoid that yucky measure of profitability, because really, what does that tell you about the technology? Time saved? Yes, as an indicator, it is valuable, and there are other considerations when comparing the movement of people and cargo from point A to point B. Great...so you got yourself or the cargo to the train station. But what happens next? You still have to get yourself to your destination, or your cargo to the end user. That's one of the shortcomings of rail transport and travel, so by all means...ignore it! So now we have to pay attention to social and environmental impacts, which means bringing in the elite of our current academic mess...sustainability researchers! And sociologists! But don't worry, the assessment will be more robust. Here's another lovely few sentences that will be recognizable to all of the people who just love the idea of the 15 minute city!
Better rail-based mass-transit options could help to reduce urban sprawl, as well as the land needed for roads, car parks and other car-related infrastructure. Less-congested cities with fewer motor vehicles are more liveable places where people are more inclined to walk and cycle, reaping the health benefits of these activities. They are also more inclusive, particularly for younger and older people who are less likely to own a vehicle.Oh no! The evil car rears its ugly head. Never mind that cars give us freedom and autonomy, and are a superb measure of real wealth. But rest assured, our overlords are concerned for our health, so get on that bicycle and ride to work in the rain and snow! Don't worry...everyone will be doing it, so you can feel like you are part of a huge, homogeneous crowd.
Research can also illuminate the winners and losers created by investment decisions. China, for example, is set to continue the breakneck expansion of its high-speed rail, aiming to reach 60,000 kilometres by 2030. But scholars are debating the wisdom of the speed and scale of this expansion, with uncertainty remaining about how widely the economic benefits of high-speed links are distributed.
That one is a real head scratcher. Apparently economic success needs to be examined more carefully than just by...you know...economic success. I guess that's why inclusivity and carbon credits will be more important than traditionally accepted financial measures. And they aren't pleased with China, in spite of the commies building lots of high speed rail, because there hasn't been sufficient oversight of the networks by those sustainability researchers and equity consultants? But this one might be my favorite, in a vomit-inducing sort of way...
The United Kingdom will be celebrating its role in birthing the railways later this month, but the country also offers an example of the effects disinvestment in railways can have. A 2024 study examined a sustained programme of cuts made to the nation's railway network from the 1950s to the 1980s. It found that the predominantly rural areas most affected by the cuts saw population declines, job losses and drops in the number of skilled workers, relative to areas that were unaffected.
STAY ON THE LAND, SERFS! And wet streets cause rain, but that's the sort of analysis that is necessary to support a political philosophy that requires rigid social hierarchies, forcing people into planned-by-the-government housing and employment, and taking away their ability to be human and go where they want to go, and do what they want to do. You know: communism. Two hundred and fifty years ago, a Scottish economist named Adam Smith wrote about the now-obvious concept of "the invisible hand." That is a perfect metaphor for the billions of individual decisions, motivated by self-interest, that drive economies. That invisible hand decides winners and losers, and it is the most efficient, and maybe the only way for economies to prosper. Elites short circuit those decisions by incorrectly assuming that their understanding of economies and societies are better than the sum of those billions of individual choices. They are wrong. They have always been wrong, and their arrogance has brought only pain and suffering and poverty.
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:00 AM (HEGiN)
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st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2025 11:00 AM (Wnv9h)
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Not today.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2025 11:00 AM (Wnv9h)
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Corgis called
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:00 AM (HEGiN)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 18, 2025 11:02 AM (k7tU1)
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Research can also illuminate the winners and losers created by investment decisions. China, for example, is set to continue the breakneck expansion of its high-speed rail, aiming to reach 60,000 kilometres by 2030. But scholars are debating the wisdom of the speed and scale of this expansion, with uncertainty remaining about how widely the economic benefits of high-speed links are distributed.
When discussing high speed trains, Japan and China are often cited as examples of how to do it. However, it is almost always left unsaid that HST in both countries is grossly underused and a MASSIVE money loser, requiring constant infusions of taxpayer dollars. So, why WOULDN'T California want them?
When discussing high speed trains, Japan and China are often cited as examples of how to do it. However, it is almost always left unsaid that HST in both countries is grossly underused and a MASSIVE money loser, requiring constant infusions of taxpayer dollars. So, why WOULDN'T California want them?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:03 AM (Riz8t)
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Top 10?!?
Posted by: Grayman27 at September 18, 2025 11:03 AM (pgwxJ)
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All too often, these are based on narrow metrics of profitability or ‘time saved’ by potential users, with insufficient consideration of the wider social and environmental impacts. Economists, other social scientists and sustainability researchers can all contribute to developing more-robust assessments of these indirect benefits.
Bring back water mills and dung fires!
Bring back water mills and dung fires!
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)
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I think, but not sure, that "NotoriousBFD has been MIA for quite a while, and he was going through some tough times.
I hope he's okay.
I think, but not sure, that "NotoriousBFD has been MIA for quite a while, and he was going through some tough times.
I hope he's okay.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 18, 2025 11:04 AM (HCayI)
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Experts!! What can't they fuck up?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:04 AM (kTd/k)
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Elites short circuit those decisions by incorrectly assuming that their understanding of economies and societies are better than the sum of those billions of individual choices. They are wrong. They have always been wrong, and their arrogance has brought only pain and suffering and poverty.
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Chef's kiss for that closing argument. Good job CBD.
Adam Smith's work in the Wealth of Nations relies on his earlier and much less read work, A Theory of Moral Sentiments. And you see echoes of that earlier work in your closing argument as well as the Wealth of Nations.
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Chef's kiss for that closing argument. Good job CBD.
Adam Smith's work in the Wealth of Nations relies on his earlier and much less read work, A Theory of Moral Sentiments. And you see echoes of that earlier work in your closing argument as well as the Wealth of Nations.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:05 AM (WDjG6)
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OT rain in van nuys. Think it's the first rain neighbors pup has seen. Doesn't know whether to bark or hide.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 18, 2025 11:05 AM (k7tU1)
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I bet I can guess who.underwrote this study...
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2025 11:05 AM (2WIwB)
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Left: we’re all about progress and technology and science!
Also left: man isn’t 19th century transportation the awesomest way to get around ?
Also left: man isn’t 19th century transportation the awesomest way to get around ?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:05 AM (qM1j6)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 18, 2025 11:06 AM (k7tU1)
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"A 2024 study examined a sustained programme of cuts..."
Jeez at least get the spelling right. It's P R O G R A M.
Jeez at least get the spelling right. It's P R O G R A M.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2025 11:06 AM (2WIwB)
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IF you want people to use the choo choo, the choo choo has to be safe. That means keeping criminals off it. Which is going to have a Disproportionate Impact at least until the race disproportionately thinking it can get away with it, understand they can't get away with it.
Posted by: gKWVE at September 18, 2025 11:06 AM (gKWVE)
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Got into a discussion with a cousin who insisted that high speed rail should happen in this country. I pointed out that the environmental impact report would take at least a decade to resolve first and God help you if the rail line crossed the sacred breeding ground of the Sideways Walking Cockroach. Then you get the fact that the rails have to be stronger than regular rail lines and need more maintenance.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:06 AM (BpO1e)
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I think, but not sure, that "NotoriousBFD has been MIA for quite a while, and he was going through some tough times.
I hope he's okay.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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For those so inclined, Ben Had is kind of the keymaster here for back channel comms and she contacted me when I was ill earlier this year and absent from the blog. Done it for others I think.
Weasel probably has some contacts as well from his gun thread and perhaps other Cobs do as well.
I think, but not sure, that "NotoriousBFD has been MIA for quite a while, and he was going through some tough times.
I hope he's okay.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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For those so inclined, Ben Had is kind of the keymaster here for back channel comms and she contacted me when I was ill earlier this year and absent from the blog. Done it for others I think.
Weasel probably has some contacts as well from his gun thread and perhaps other Cobs do as well.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:07 AM (WDjG6)
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It found that the predominantly rural areas most affected by the cuts saw population declines, job losses and drops in the number of skilled workers, relative to areas that were unaffected.
or service was cut because there were fewer riders.
Either or.
or service was cut because there were fewer riders.
Either or.
Posted by: toby928 at September 18, 2025 11:08 AM (jc0TO)
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American leftists love to masturbate to the idea that everyone in Europe loves public transportation.
No they don’t.
They take it but they don’t love it. Euros would love to own cars but it is so expensive, especially in urban areas, only the well to do can afford it. The upper middle class doesn’t take the subway in Paris or Berlin or Amsterdam . They drive. It’s the lower and middle classes that have no other choice but to take the subway.
No they don’t.
They take it but they don’t love it. Euros would love to own cars but it is so expensive, especially in urban areas, only the well to do can afford it. The upper middle class doesn’t take the subway in Paris or Berlin or Amsterdam . They drive. It’s the lower and middle classes that have no other choice but to take the subway.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:08 AM (qM1j6)
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And the fact that cars are not bound by schedules that the rails set and people can do their own thing is seen as the biggest downside.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:08 AM (BpO1e)
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You know who else loved trains?
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at September 18, 2025 11:08 AM (eM6xt)
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18 Got into a discussion with a cousin who insisted that high speed rail should happen in this country. I pointed out that the environmental impact report would take at least a decade to resolve first and God help you if the rail line crossed the sacred breeding ground of the Sideways Walking Cockroach. Then you get the fact that the rails have to be stronger than regular rail lines and need more maintenance.
Posted by: NR Pax
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Probably only makes sense in highly traveled North South corridors of teh East Coast and West Coast. Most of flyover territory simply does not have the density and volume of travelers necessary to support it. Euroland and Japan are far more densely populated than the US.
Posted by: NR Pax
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Probably only makes sense in highly traveled North South corridors of teh East Coast and West Coast. Most of flyover territory simply does not have the density and volume of travelers necessary to support it. Euroland and Japan are far more densely populated than the US.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (WDjG6)
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I think a lot of these nature-type and outdoor-lifestyle magazines were bought up and now owned or operated by only a few big companies. Look at the mastheads. It's almost always published and controlled by some bigger company with lots of similar titles it also publishes.
So you get unimind leftist bullshite almost without any deviation from dogma no matter what. Hence, if you read a hiking/camping magazine, you'll get articles celebrating lesbian hikers as if they're some rare unicorn.
Huh? The percentage of lesbians in hiking is far higher than in the general population. It's almost like a WNBA magazine doing a piece on the rare league examples of bitter hateful bull dykes.
So you get unimind leftist bullshite almost without any deviation from dogma no matter what. Hence, if you read a hiking/camping magazine, you'll get articles celebrating lesbian hikers as if they're some rare unicorn.
Huh? The percentage of lesbians in hiking is far higher than in the general population. It's almost like a WNBA magazine doing a piece on the rare league examples of bitter hateful bull dykes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (PlmO8)
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Primary Them:
The four Republicans who voted to table the measure against Omar are Reps. Mike Flood of Nebraska, Tom McClintock of California, Jeff Hurd of Colorado and Cory Mills of Florida.
The four Republicans who voted to table the measure against Omar are Reps. Mike Flood of Nebraska, Tom McClintock of California, Jeff Hurd of Colorado and Cory Mills of Florida.
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (TN0g+)
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People need the Weight of God. (also translated "Glory")
Everything can--and probably will--get corrupted by men seeking for themselves, eventually.
Pretending to put aside capitalism does not change this essential nature of men.
Everything can--and probably will--get corrupted by men seeking for themselves, eventually.
Pretending to put aside capitalism does not change this essential nature of men.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:10 AM (krQz2)
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Whether that was warranted is a point of much debate
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That is an interesting question. When, did they decline? And how much? I have serious doubts about the reliability of sources we were taught to take at face value. To my mind, only by comparing differing narratives can you get anything like the truth. But that is very unpopular. It gets you attacked on all sides.
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That is an interesting question. When, did they decline? And how much? I have serious doubts about the reliability of sources we were taught to take at face value. To my mind, only by comparing differing narratives can you get anything like the truth. But that is very unpopular. It gets you attacked on all sides.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 18, 2025 11:10 AM (s0JqF)
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Nature mag has been complete political garbage for a while now, this article is par for the course.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (uWKK8)
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At this point in time if someone wants me to take a train my first thought would be that poor young lady slaughtered on a train in NC. No thanks….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (YobFY)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (XUKxJ)
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Most of flyover territory simply does not have the density and volume of travelers necessary to support it.
I remember Joe Biden calling for trains to be built that could cross the country as fast as a plane and not one person in the media dared to mock him.
I remember Joe Biden calling for trains to be built that could cross the country as fast as a plane and not one person in the media dared to mock him.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (BpO1e)
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (tubbA)
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My view is if you want to live in an apartment in a crime ridden shithole, be my guest. I’ll live somewhere else.
Leftists on the other hand are not only content with living there. They want to force you to live there too.
Because at the end of the day none of this has anything to do with cLimAte cHanGe. It’s all about control.
Leftists on the other hand are not only content with living there. They want to force you to live there too.
Because at the end of the day none of this has anything to do with cLimAte cHanGe. It’s all about control.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (qM1j6)
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Less-congested cities"
And how, exactly, do we get that? Soylent Green?
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (tubbA)
Scoops. I've been telling you people.
And how, exactly, do we get that? Soylent Green?
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (tubbA)
Scoops. I've been telling you people.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (i24o9)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM
I'm convinced that every "lifestyle" magazine (cooking, gardening, you name it) is required by law to have at least 10% ghey content.
I'm convinced that every "lifestyle" magazine (cooking, gardening, you name it) is required by law to have at least 10% ghey content.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2025 11:12 AM (kgE5c)
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Elites don't have to "figure things out" as they seem to have people to do that for them. Whether the info they get is remotely accurate is another story.
As for "experts" I think they fall into a similar situation. They've got a hypothesis and can't seem to come to terms that it might be wrong.
The researchers I once worked with were very short sighted. "Experts" in a very narrow field. Yet unable to tie shoelaces or operate a copier or put together a flat packed table with 4 screw in legs.
As for "experts" I think they fall into a similar situation. They've got a hypothesis and can't seem to come to terms that it might be wrong.
The researchers I once worked with were very short sighted. "Experts" in a very narrow field. Yet unable to tie shoelaces or operate a copier or put together a flat packed table with 4 screw in legs.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2025 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)
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Passenger trains only make sense where they make sense, ie, where they are profitable.
Posted by: toby928 at September 18, 2025 11:13 AM (jc0TO)
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Elites short circuit those decisions by incorrectly assuming that their understanding of economies and societies are better than the sum of those billions of individual choices.
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Its even more insidious than that. Its not ONLY that the elites think they "understand...better", its that once their "elite" pet policy is put in place they ASSUME that individuals will see the error of their ways and STOP making those *billions of individual choices*.
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Its even more insidious than that. Its not ONLY that the elites think they "understand...better", its that once their "elite" pet policy is put in place they ASSUME that individuals will see the error of their ways and STOP making those *billions of individual choices*.
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 11:13 AM (TN0g+)
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or service was cut because there were fewer riders.
Either or.
Posted by: toby928
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Passenger rail failed in the US due to travel via the roadways became far faster, more convenient and if greater speed was needed, flying. Little difference in being in a rail car at 55-60 mph and a car driving that distance except when you arrived, you already had transport in the city if you drove in by car.
And plane travel is about 450+ mph travel albeit with security theater and unpleasant seating, it makes the long transcontinental runs in a couple of hours versus a 12-15 hour train trip if your train could average something like 200-300 mph.
US is simply not ideal for train travel other than in densely populated areas like Boswash corridor and perhaps special lines like from LA to Vegas or Orlando to Miami.
Either or.
Posted by: toby928
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Passenger rail failed in the US due to travel via the roadways became far faster, more convenient and if greater speed was needed, flying. Little difference in being in a rail car at 55-60 mph and a car driving that distance except when you arrived, you already had transport in the city if you drove in by car.
And plane travel is about 450+ mph travel albeit with security theater and unpleasant seating, it makes the long transcontinental runs in a couple of hours versus a 12-15 hour train trip if your train could average something like 200-300 mph.
US is simply not ideal for train travel other than in densely populated areas like Boswash corridor and perhaps special lines like from LA to Vegas or Orlando to Miami.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:13 AM (WDjG6)
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"A 2024 study examined a sustained programme of cuts made to the nation's railway network from the 1950s to the 1980s. It found that the predominantly rural areas most affected by the cuts saw population declines, job losses and drops in the number of skilled workers, relative to areas that were unaffected."
They looked at the effect of cuts made 75 years ago, when the entire world was very different, and before modern highways and roads were built? Gee, I wonder how cuts to the Spanish navy after the failure of the Spanish Armada affected shipbuilding 500 years ago?
They looked at the effect of cuts made 75 years ago, when the entire world was very different, and before modern highways and roads were built? Gee, I wonder how cuts to the Spanish navy after the failure of the Spanish Armada affected shipbuilding 500 years ago?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:14 AM (iFTx/)
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I've taken Amtrak from Boston and RI to NYC many times when I was going for meetings in NYC. Because it was easier than driving or taking a shuttle flight. But that only works if there is no reason to leave the city.
I don't need endless studies to tell me the best transportation method for my needs and neither does anyone else. Trains have limited utility in the US because we aren't Europe.
I don't need endless studies to tell me the best transportation method for my needs and neither does anyone else. Trains have limited utility in the US because we aren't Europe.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:14 AM (viF8m)
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26 Here goes the judge!
https://tinyurl.com/yv25wxj9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (PlmO
Not only does she make illegal political contributions, but she also takes bad pictures!
https://tinyurl.com/yv25wxj9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2025 11:09 AM (PlmO
Not only does she make illegal political contributions, but she also takes bad pictures!
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 18, 2025 11:14 AM (FMtrg)
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39 Passenger trains only make sense where they make sense, ie, where they are profitable.
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And raillines came to that conclusion by the end of the 60's. I like trains, have ridden them on occasion, but for fun--not business nor speed.
Posted by: toby928
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And raillines came to that conclusion by the end of the 60's. I like trains, have ridden them on occasion, but for fun--not business nor speed.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:14 AM (WDjG6)
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The United Kingdom will be celebrating its role in birthing the railways later this month, but the country also offers an example of the effects disinvestment in railways can have. A 2024 study examined a sustained programme of cuts made to the nation's railway network from the 1950s to the 1980s. It found that the predominantly rural areas most affected by the cuts saw population declines, job losses and drops in the number of skilled workers, relative to areas that were unaffected.
STAY ON THE LAND, SERFS!
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It looks as if the cited paragraph is saying the opposite of that. The cuts are driving people away. Or were made in areas already declining.
One thing not mentioned - on all our minds now - is the safety of the trains.
STAY ON THE LAND, SERFS!
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It looks as if the cited paragraph is saying the opposite of that. The cuts are driving people away. Or were made in areas already declining.
One thing not mentioned - on all our minds now - is the safety of the trains.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 18, 2025 11:15 AM (s0JqF)
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23 You know who else loved trains?
they're nice for campaigning around germany or shipping people to vacation camps.
*shifty eyes* or so i hear
they're nice for campaigning around germany or shipping people to vacation camps.
*shifty eyes* or so i hear
Posted by: that nice mr. hilter at September 18, 2025 11:15 AM (v3pYe)
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Part of the fun of the World's Fair,
Is the subway special that takes you there.
Any time, night or day,
Just pay fifteen cents, hop on board!
And you're on your way....
Is the subway special that takes you there.
Any time, night or day,
Just pay fifteen cents, hop on board!
And you're on your way....
Posted by: Token Hoarder at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (oftw2)
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>> Less-congested cities
In Southern California, land of woke, many folks who constantly vote blue are upset when they find out that, for instance, zoning laws have been changed by Dems in Sacramento to encourage “low cost housing”… so a mall in Torrance goes bankrupt (because no one goes to malls anymore) and lo and behold they’re gonna turn it into 10-story apartments and a big parking lot… no one wants that low cost housing down the street… they paved paradise and put up a parking lot
In Southern California, land of woke, many folks who constantly vote blue are upset when they find out that, for instance, zoning laws have been changed by Dems in Sacramento to encourage “low cost housing”… so a mall in Torrance goes bankrupt (because no one goes to malls anymore) and lo and behold they’re gonna turn it into 10-story apartments and a big parking lot… no one wants that low cost housing down the street… they paved paradise and put up a parking lot
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (YobFY)
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A problem with any government is that those in power tend to make decisions to benefit themselves, while always claiming some (usually vague) greater good.
That's bad enough in America, but the more communist the government, the more power they have to trample the people's rights in order to appropriate for their own families/tribes/cartels.
That's bad enough in America, but the more communist the government, the more power they have to trample the people's rights in order to appropriate for their own families/tribes/cartels.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (vbXSk)
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>>>They have always been wrong, and their arrogance has brought only pain and suffering and poverty.
Feature, not a bug, IMO.
Feature, not a bug, IMO.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (i24o9)
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remember Joe Biden calling for trains to be built that could cross the country as fast as a plane and not one person in the media dared to mock him.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (BpO1e)
A few years ago there was this map going around that someone created with high speed train lines. It looked kinda like the interstate map but for trains. And people online were gushing saying how awesome would it be to take a train from LA to NY in a few hours. It would be so much better than flying.
And virtually none of these people realized that even with the fastest train on the planet and assuming it could be non-stop and traveling at top speed the entire time (which of course isn’t possible) it would still take 10-12 hrs vs a 5 hr flight. And realistically with stops along the way, having to slow down in the mountains etc more like 18-20 hours.
These people live in an alternate universe.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (BpO1e)
A few years ago there was this map going around that someone created with high speed train lines. It looked kinda like the interstate map but for trains. And people online were gushing saying how awesome would it be to take a train from LA to NY in a few hours. It would be so much better than flying.
And virtually none of these people realized that even with the fastest train on the planet and assuming it could be non-stop and traveling at top speed the entire time (which of course isn’t possible) it would still take 10-12 hrs vs a 5 hr flight. And realistically with stops along the way, having to slow down in the mountains etc more like 18-20 hours.
These people live in an alternate universe.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (qM1j6)
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Never mind that cars give us freedom and autonomy, and are a superb measure of real wealth.
There are plans to turn trains into cars as well. The benefit of trains to the anointed isn’t that they save the earth. It’s that they allow for much better control and tracking of movement.
Possibly the only viable solution currently proposed to overcome the problem of batteries in battery-powered vehicles is to bypass them, and install power strips in roadways. Battery-powered vehicles would no longer need massive battery arrays to travel long distances.
While this might initially be used solely to power battery-powered vehicles on the road, the technology is easily adapted to (a) shut down travel in general, and (b) identify each vehicle on the road and exactly where they currently are, thus (c) allowing targeted shutdowns of travel as well as general tracking.
There are plans to turn trains into cars as well. The benefit of trains to the anointed isn’t that they save the earth. It’s that they allow for much better control and tracking of movement.
Possibly the only viable solution currently proposed to overcome the problem of batteries in battery-powered vehicles is to bypass them, and install power strips in roadways. Battery-powered vehicles would no longer need massive battery arrays to travel long distances.
While this might initially be used solely to power battery-powered vehicles on the road, the technology is easily adapted to (a) shut down travel in general, and (b) identify each vehicle on the road and exactly where they currently are, thus (c) allowing targeted shutdowns of travel as well as general tracking.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (EXyHK)
54
The meltdown over Kimmel is getting more and more hilarious!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK8)
55
I like trains, have ridden them on occasion, but for fun--not business nor speed.
I took the train up to visit my daughter living in NYC. It was okay, nothing special, and the only reason I did it was to avoid airports and airline seating. The time difference isn't enough to matter, if you include all of the time since you leave your house.
The point is that that was MY choice.
I took the train up to visit my daughter living in NYC. It was okay, nothing special, and the only reason I did it was to avoid airports and airline seating. The time difference isn't enough to matter, if you include all of the time since you leave your house.
The point is that that was MY choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:18 AM (Riz8t)
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When I had a website, which later became my blog, I had a page-long argument that the kernels of morality are WITHIN the intellectual endeavor.
1. Don't lie.
2. Due diligence. Make every effort that you have a reasonable case for it *being* the truth.
3. Work. Work too shoddy will eventually hurt many
4. Do your *own* work, no plagiarism.
5. Raise the subject matter higher than your own ambitions. (Corresponds as well to the Weight of God)
Not even Hume could possibly argue with those OUGHTs, because in Concerning Human Understanding really perceived a lack of understanding of OUGHTs and thought people OUGHT not to use them the way they do.
1. Don't lie.
2. Due diligence. Make every effort that you have a reasonable case for it *being* the truth.
3. Work. Work too shoddy will eventually hurt many
4. Do your *own* work, no plagiarism.
5. Raise the subject matter higher than your own ambitions. (Corresponds as well to the Weight of God)
Not even Hume could possibly argue with those OUGHTs, because in Concerning Human Understanding really perceived a lack of understanding of OUGHTs and thought people OUGHT not to use them the way they do.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:18 AM (krQz2)
57
Great timing on this Nature article right after Iryna was murdered on a train by some deranged lunatic
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:18 AM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: Eeyore at September 18, 2025 11:15 AM (s0JqF)
No. They are being critical of the cuts, but don't understand why the cuts were made.
No. They are being critical of the cuts, but don't understand why the cuts were made.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:18 AM (qAbQV)
59
Public transportation could work if it can be offered cheaply, efficiently, go where people need to go and be self-sustaining.
Since it universally fails most of those test, they are generally a boon-doggle.
I've been taking the bus into Manhattan for the last couple of months.
A regular round-trip is 106 bucks from where I'm at in PA, getting a multi-trip commuter pass halves the price but at over 50 bucks a round trip, it's not cheap.
Since it universally fails most of those test, they are generally a boon-doggle.
I've been taking the bus into Manhattan for the last couple of months.
A regular round-trip is 106 bucks from where I'm at in PA, getting a multi-trip commuter pass halves the price but at over 50 bucks a round trip, it's not cheap.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2025 11:18 AM (XV/Pl)
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As for "experts" I think they fall into a similar situation. They've got a hypothesis and can't seem to come to terms that it might be wrong.
The researchers I once worked with were very short sighted. "Experts" in a very narrow field. Yet unable to tie shoelaces or operate a copier or put together a flat packed table with 4 screw in legs.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Science and academia got warped because journals only print positive findings and they prefer those finding to be provocative. Thus boring studies that negate provocative findings or try to replicate existing research or that have totally negative findings are rarely, if ever published.
So if your tenured career depends on publishing--you go for unique and positive findings even if you have to do intellectual shortcuts to get those findings like change your hypothesis (most honest), or worse statistically torture data to get weak findings that you ballyhoo, or in cases nowadays, you simply cherrypick datasets, use stat processes that are ill understood in your field, 'lose' some problematic data, rely on imputation to fill missing data, and other nasty tricks.
The researchers I once worked with were very short sighted. "Experts" in a very narrow field. Yet unable to tie shoelaces or operate a copier or put together a flat packed table with 4 screw in legs.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Science and academia got warped because journals only print positive findings and they prefer those finding to be provocative. Thus boring studies that negate provocative findings or try to replicate existing research or that have totally negative findings are rarely, if ever published.
So if your tenured career depends on publishing--you go for unique and positive findings even if you have to do intellectual shortcuts to get those findings like change your hypothesis (most honest), or worse statistically torture data to get weak findings that you ballyhoo, or in cases nowadays, you simply cherrypick datasets, use stat processes that are ill understood in your field, 'lose' some problematic data, rely on imputation to fill missing data, and other nasty tricks.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (WDjG6)
61
Wake me when real magazines become real magazines. I do miss the real things.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (AdHga)
62
Does anyone know if the NYC subway makes a profit? I get the impression it’s heavily used…I also get the impression the average person in NYC has no choice but to use the subway to move around. If it can’t be profitable in NYC, then where?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (YobFY)
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43 I've taken Amtrak from Boston and RI to NYC many times when I was going for meetings in NYC. Because it was easier than driving or taking a shuttle flight. But that only works if there is no reason to leave the city.
years ago, i had a couple weeks off and thought i might take a nice leisurely train ride out to the other side of the country to see my grandmother. amtrak didn't go anywhere near where i was or wanted to be and was more expensive than flying.
years ago, i had a couple weeks off and thought i might take a nice leisurely train ride out to the other side of the country to see my grandmother. amtrak didn't go anywhere near where i was or wanted to be and was more expensive than flying.
Posted by: anachronda at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (v3pYe)
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Passenger trains, even more than airplanes, are unprofitable. They never have been. No railroad outside of Amtrak, would ever think of reintroducing passenger service.
Passenger trains, even more than airplanes, are unprofitable. They never have been. No railroad outside of Amtrak, would ever think of reintroducing passenger service.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (tgvbd)
65
Wooo, Wooo!
Posted by: DaveA at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (FhXTo)
66
From GP:
Shooter Tyler Robinson and his transgender partner, Lance Twiggs, are tied to Armed Queers SLC, which deleted its social media accounts immediately after the killing. Federal investigators are also probing Benjamin Song, the ex-Marine accused of leading the July ICE detention center attack, who connected the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club to both Armed Queers SLC and broader Antifa networks. Evidence of joint workshops, cross-state coordination, and BLM collaborations underscores how these radical factions trained, organized, and operated together.
Shooter Tyler Robinson and his transgender partner, Lance Twiggs, are tied to Armed Queers SLC, which deleted its social media accounts immediately after the killing. Federal investigators are also probing Benjamin Song, the ex-Marine accused of leading the July ICE detention center attack, who connected the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club to both Armed Queers SLC and broader Antifa networks. Evidence of joint workshops, cross-state coordination, and BLM collaborations underscores how these radical factions trained, organized, and operated together.
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 11:19 AM (TN0g+)
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The 1953 film "The Titfield Thunderbolt" tells the story of a small English town and their reaction to having their rail line closed. Funny and charming in it's way.
Posted by: Stanley Holloway at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (oftw2)
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You know who else loved trains?
Posted by: Erebus
That one female cop who did the whole department?
Posted by: Erebus
That one female cop who did the whole department?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (HEGiN)
69
Pull my finger.
Posted by: The Invisible Hand at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (TblsW)
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56 When I had a website, which later became my blog, I had a page-long argument that the kernels of morality are WITHIN the intellectual endeavor.
1. Don't lie.
2. Due diligence. Make every effort that you have a reasonable case for it *being* the truth.
3. Work. Work too shoddy will eventually hurt many
4. Do your *own* work, no plagiarism.
5. Raise the subject matter higher than your own ambitions. (Corresponds as well to the Weight of God)
Not even Hume could possibly argue with those OUGHTs, because in Concerning Human Understanding really perceived a lack of understanding of OUGHTs and thought people OUGHT not to use them the way they do.
Posted by: Axeman
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Nicely done. I would have had no problems using that framework when teaching students.
1. Don't lie.
2. Due diligence. Make every effort that you have a reasonable case for it *being* the truth.
3. Work. Work too shoddy will eventually hurt many
4. Do your *own* work, no plagiarism.
5. Raise the subject matter higher than your own ambitions. (Corresponds as well to the Weight of God)
Not even Hume could possibly argue with those OUGHTs, because in Concerning Human Understanding really perceived a lack of understanding of OUGHTs and thought people OUGHT not to use them the way they do.
Posted by: Axeman
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Nicely done. I would have had no problems using that framework when teaching students.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (WDjG6)
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61 Wake me when real magazines become real magazines.
i miss high-capacity magazines. like computer shopper. you could assault someone with that.
i miss high-capacity magazines. like computer shopper. you could assault someone with that.
Posted by: anachronda at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (v3pYe)
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"Better rail-based mass-transit options could help to reduce urban sprawl."
yeah, because god forbid somebody decides they don't want to live like blue state communists packed ass to mouth in overcrowded buildings. Just for shits a giggles I looked up "urban sprawl" to see how elitist scumbags define it-
"Urban sprawl is the low-density expansion of development onto undeveloped land, characterized by car-dependent growth, single-family housing, and an inefficient land-use pattern that spreads out across large distances. It leads to negative impacts such as increased air and water pollution, loss of natural habitats and agricultural land, higher resource consumption, and negative effects on public health due to sedentary lifestyles and increased traffic."
Right, go fuck yourself.
yeah, because god forbid somebody decides they don't want to live like blue state communists packed ass to mouth in overcrowded buildings. Just for shits a giggles I looked up "urban sprawl" to see how elitist scumbags define it-
"Urban sprawl is the low-density expansion of development onto undeveloped land, characterized by car-dependent growth, single-family housing, and an inefficient land-use pattern that spreads out across large distances. It leads to negative impacts such as increased air and water pollution, loss of natural habitats and agricultural land, higher resource consumption, and negative effects on public health due to sedentary lifestyles and increased traffic."
Right, go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (snZF9)
73
I road the trains a lot when living in Germany. In a densely populated country, rail travel is very convenient.
That simply will not work in the vast majority of America.
That simply will not work in the vast majority of America.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at Werk at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (PSEDc)
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57 Great timing on this Nature article right after Iryna was murdered on a train by some deranged lunatic
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Isn't Deranged Lunatic a Spark of Divinity?
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Isn't Deranged Lunatic a Spark of Divinity?
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM (AdHga)
75
Evidence of joint workshops, cross-state coordination, and BLM collaborations underscores how these radical factions trained, organized, and operated together.
Posted by: Crusader
Whoops! Hello FBI.
Posted by: Crusader
Whoops! Hello FBI.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:21 AM (HEGiN)
76
The propaganda has worked on yuuutes. The percent of teenagers with licenses has been dropping steadily since the late 2000s. A large part of that is they’ve been brainwashed into thinking they’ll kill the erf if they drive a car.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:21 AM (qM1j6)
77
The meltdown over Kimmel is getting more and more hilarious!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:21 AM (i24o9)
78
A problem with any government is that those in power tend to make decisions to benefit themselves, while always claiming some (usually vague) greater good.
That's bad enough in America, but the more communist the government, the more power they have to trample the people's rights in order to appropriate for their own families/tribes/cartels.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (vbXSk)
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Dead on. Marxism places that tendency IN "capitalism". And after we press the sins of our selfishness into the Capitalist goat we can give it to Azazel and never have it haunt the heart of man again.
Which doesn't explain the perks in Marxist-themed countries.
Oh, I forgot, because real Marxism has never been tried.
That's bad enough in America, but the more communist the government, the more power they have to trample the people's rights in order to appropriate for their own families/tribes/cartels.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (vbXSk)
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Dead on. Marxism places that tendency IN "capitalism". And after we press the sins of our selfishness into the Capitalist goat we can give it to Azazel and never have it haunt the heart of man again.
Which doesn't explain the perks in Marxist-themed countries.
Oh, I forgot, because real Marxism has never been tried.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:22 AM (krQz2)
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They are also more inclusive, particularly for younger and older people who are less likely to own a vehicle.
LOL. The car-haters in Portland periodically trot out the shocking statistic that one-third of the population of Oregon does not have a driver's license.
The majority of those people don't have a driver's license because they are too young to get a driver's license.
LOL. The car-haters in Portland periodically trot out the shocking statistic that one-third of the population of Oregon does not have a driver's license.
The majority of those people don't have a driver's license because they are too young to get a driver's license.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2025 11:22 AM (xTIDn)
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Does anyone know if the NYC subway makes a profit? I get the impression it’s heavily used…I also get the impression the average person in NYC has no choice but to use the subway to move around. If it can’t be profitable in NYC, then where?
I read recently that they're losing an enormous amount of money, something like $1B a year, to fare dodgers. Yes, I would love to spend my commute locked in a metal box with THOSE people.
I read recently that they're losing an enormous amount of money, something like $1B a year, to fare dodgers. Yes, I would love to spend my commute locked in a metal box with THOSE people.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (AdHga)
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Trains are dogshit. It's like some relic left over from the 19th century British Empire before there were cars or planes.
There is no situation I'd take a train over driving. I'm not talking about commuting back and forth to work, but even that I hate and drive when I can (when alternate-side parking is suspended). Next year, I'm gonna get a monthly garage and drive everyday.
Rail works for cargo and industrial transportation. But for moving people, it can suck my balls. I hate flying too, but there's no way around that if you love traveling as much as I do.
There is no situation I'd take a train over driving. I'm not talking about commuting back and forth to work, but even that I hate and drive when I can (when alternate-side parking is suspended). Next year, I'm gonna get a monthly garage and drive everyday.
Rail works for cargo and industrial transportation. But for moving people, it can suck my balls. I hate flying too, but there's no way around that if you love traveling as much as I do.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (iFTx/)
83
The meltdown over Kimmel is getting more and more hilarious!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:21 AM (i24o9)
That’s a shame (Seinfeld voice)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:21 AM (i24o9)
That’s a shame (Seinfeld voice)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (YobFY)
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Morning guys,
Launch soon.
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 17-12
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB, CA - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: September 18, 2025
Launch Time: 9:27 a.m. PDT (1627 UTC, 18:27 CEST)
https://youtu.be/V2_dHbePULM
Launch soon.
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 17-12
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB, CA - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: September 18, 2025
Launch Time: 9:27 a.m. PDT (1627 UTC, 18:27 CEST)
https://youtu.be/V2_dHbePULM
Posted by: Joyenz at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (2F0/Y)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (qAbQV)
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Does anyone know if the NYC subway makes a profit?
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If they had to depend on their own earnings, the subways would be out of business in 20 minutes. They're kept alive by the MTA's bridge and tunnel earnings (the old Triborough).
Does anyone know if the NYC subway makes a profit?
________
If they had to depend on their own earnings, the subways would be out of business in 20 minutes. They're kept alive by the MTA's bridge and tunnel earnings (the old Triborough).
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (tgvbd)
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62 Does anyone know if the NYC subway makes a profit? I get the impression it’s heavily used…I also get the impression the average person in NYC has no choice but to use the subway to move around. If it can’t be profitable in NYC, then where?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
It has on occasion turned a few bucks but generally loses money--more when Dems are in charge as they ignore gatejumpers, crime, etc. to let the criminals, mentally ill, homeless, and druggies have somewhere to go when the weather is bad or simply to warehouse them off the streets.
Thus, under Dems, the subways become unsafe diverting solid citizens that can afford to pay to use other means and the ignoring of gatejumpers, special welfare type passes, etc kill revenue.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
It has on occasion turned a few bucks but generally loses money--more when Dems are in charge as they ignore gatejumpers, crime, etc. to let the criminals, mentally ill, homeless, and druggies have somewhere to go when the weather is bad or simply to warehouse them off the streets.
Thus, under Dems, the subways become unsafe diverting solid citizens that can afford to pay to use other means and the ignoring of gatejumpers, special welfare type passes, etc kill revenue.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:23 AM (WDjG6)
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You know who else loved trains?
Posted by: Erebus
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There's another guy who liked them running on time.
Posted by: Erebus
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There's another guy who liked them running on time.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (krQz2)
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Yes, I would love to spend my commute locked in a metal box with THOSE people.
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You left out the underground part.
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You left out the underground part.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (AdHga)
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Probably only makes sense in highly traveled North South corridors of teh East Coast and West Coast.
"Which is the only part of the country that matters."
-- lefty snobs who live on the coasts
"Which is the only part of the country that matters."
-- lefty snobs who live on the coasts
Posted by: Oddbob at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (3nLb4)
91
Murder on the Orient Express happened on a train. Just sayin’
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (YobFY)
92
People in NYC pay a fortune to park their cars. But is worth it to them to avoid the subway.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (qM1j6)
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It leads to negative impacts such as increased air and water pollution, loss of natural habitats and agricultural land
These people hate farmers and tax the agricultural land to the point that farmers have to sell it to real estate developers. Their words mean nothing.
These people hate farmers and tax the agricultural land to the point that farmers have to sell it to real estate developers. Their words mean nothing.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:24 AM (BpO1e)
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83 The meltdown over Kimmel is getting more and more hilarious!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,
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Leftists worship celebutards because they share the same lack of moral values.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
You hate to see it. Anyway . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,
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Leftists worship celebutards because they share the same lack of moral values.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
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Southern California, land of woke, many folks who constantly vote blue are upset when they find out that, for instance, zoning laws have been changed by Dems in Sacramento to encourage “low cost housing”… so a mall in Torrance goes bankrupt (because no one goes to malls anymore) and lo and behold they’re gonna turn it into 10-story apartments and a big parking lot… no one wants that low cost housing down the street… they paved paradise and put up a parking lot
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (YobFY)
Is that whats happening to the South Bay Galleria?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:16 AM (YobFY)
Is that whats happening to the South Bay Galleria?
Posted by: LASue at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (lCppi)
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The propaganda has worked on yuuutes. The percent of teenagers with licenses has been dropping steadily since the late 2000s. A large part of that is they’ve been brainwashed into thinking they’ll kill the erf if they drive a car.
Fine with me; fewer cars and idiot drivers on the road. That assumes, of course, that I'm not made to pay for their transportation, which I will be.
Fine with me; fewer cars and idiot drivers on the road. That assumes, of course, that I'm not made to pay for their transportation, which I will be.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
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52 And virtually none of these people realized that even with the fastest train on the planet and assuming it could be non-stop and traveling at top speed the entire time (which of course isn’t possible) it would still take 10-12 hrs vs a 5 hr flight. And realistically with stops along the way, having to slow down in the mountains etc more like 18-20 hours.
saw a youtube video a couple months ago by some amtrak fans, things an amtrak noob should know. as i watched it, they all could be summed up by "noobs tend to be foolish enough to think amtrak might be competent." tips like "don't assume the train will be anywhere near on time" and "don't assume that the dining car will be operational".
saw a youtube video a couple months ago by some amtrak fans, things an amtrak noob should know. as i watched it, they all could be summed up by "noobs tend to be foolish enough to think amtrak might be competent." tips like "don't assume the train will be anywhere near on time" and "don't assume that the dining car will be operational".
Posted by: anachronda at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (v3pYe)
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One of my policy goals will be to limit New Yorkers ability to move around Manhattan. If you can't walk there in 15 minutes, you probably don't need to go! The wealthy and powerful most especially should not own vehicles, as that privilege is not necessary to their work.
Of course, outer boro residents will be free to walk or drive wherever they wish, as they are the exploited class powering the city and we will support their free movement.
Of course, outer boro residents will be free to walk or drive wherever they wish, as they are the exploited class powering the city and we will support their free movement.
Posted by: Zohran Madman at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (tSxCg)
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The meltdown over Kimmel is getting more and more hilarious!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
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The common post on our side is that the left is angrier over Kimmel being fired than a man being shot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK
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The common post on our side is that the left is angrier over Kimmel being fired than a man being shot.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (krQz2)
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>>Passenger trains only make sense where they make sense, ie, where they are profitable.
If you look at the profitability of various Amtrak routes you find that the northeast corridor, from Boston to DC, is by far the most profitable. It's the nature of the geography.
From Boston with stops in (among other places) Providence, New Haven, NYC, Newark, Trenton, Philly, Wilmington, DC and Baltimore. That entire route is full of heavy traffic on I-95 so unless you have certain deadlines or need to travel extensively at a destination the train works as an alternative. In less populated areas not so much.
If you look at the profitability of various Amtrak routes you find that the northeast corridor, from Boston to DC, is by far the most profitable. It's the nature of the geography.
From Boston with stops in (among other places) Providence, New Haven, NYC, Newark, Trenton, Philly, Wilmington, DC and Baltimore. That entire route is full of heavy traffic on I-95 so unless you have certain deadlines or need to travel extensively at a destination the train works as an alternative. In less populated areas not so much.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (viF8m)
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Worse than that in California. They made it so any property can have multi family housing. Your neighbor can build a section 8 duplex in his backyard if he wants.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (qM1j6)
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Trains would be great except for all the ... peeeeeeople. Yuck.
Posted by: Urine, Blood, and Feces Oh My! at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (qUkBO)
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I think the MTA as a whole is on track to lose almost 3 billion dollars this year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (dVp+R)
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My son loved Thomas the Tank Engine. He was on fire when the new Thomas the Tank Engine catalog arrived. We would read those together for weeks on end.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:27 AM (AdHga)
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73 I road the trains a lot when living in Germany. In a densely populated country, rail travel is very convenient.
That simply will not work in the vast majority of America.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo
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Diversity from importing Muzzies has made train travel unattractive now in Euroland. Lots of crime, stabbings, etc. on them that wasn't there even 15-20 years ago. Young unaccompanied women, as always, are most at risk.
That simply will not work in the vast majority of America.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo
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Diversity from importing Muzzies has made train travel unattractive now in Euroland. Lots of crime, stabbings, etc. on them that wasn't there even 15-20 years ago. Young unaccompanied women, as always, are most at risk.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:27 AM (WDjG6)
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103 I think the MTA as a whole is on track to lose almost 3 billion dollars this year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (dVp+R)
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That's more than Mrs. DeBlasio stole from the city!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (dVp+R)
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That's more than Mrs. DeBlasio stole from the city!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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Trains have a place for people transportation but not as much as social planners dream. We already have direct rail between major destinations in this country. Commercial freight rail and not six hundred stops in between.
Cut out prohibitive regulation and encourage freight rail to add passenger cars at the tail. They will make a profit and the customer will have a higher speed rail between major destinations than currently available. (excepting the N.E. of which I know nothing)
Cut out prohibitive regulation and encourage freight rail to add passenger cars at the tail. They will make a profit and the customer will have a higher speed rail between major destinations than currently available. (excepting the N.E. of which I know nothing)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (tiYpZ)
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Can't a person celebrate someone being murdered for saying things anymore? I thought this was AMERICA!!!
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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‘ I remember Joe Biden calling for trains to be built that could cross the country as fast as a plane’
How did I miss that? That’s next level stupidity, even for FJB.
‘ I remember Joe Biden calling for trains to be built that could cross the country as fast as a plane’
How did I miss that? That’s next level stupidity, even for FJB.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc)
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Is that whats happening to the South Bay Galleria?
Posted by: LASue at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (lCppi)
Yep… that’s the one! The comments I see about this on Nextdoor are hilarious
Posted by: LASue at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (lCppi)
Yep… that’s the one! The comments I see about this on Nextdoor are hilarious
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (k0PcD)
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The people who are celebrating people getting fired for celebrating people getting murdered are the REAL hypocrites here.
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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The common post on our side is that the left is angrier over Kimmel being fired than a man being shot.
Posted by: Axeman
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Kirk was a dirty stinking Morlock to the Left, Kimmel is celebutard royalty Eloi whom lefties invited into their houses every evening.
Posted by: Axeman
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Kirk was a dirty stinking Morlock to the Left, Kimmel is celebutard royalty Eloi whom lefties invited into their houses every evening.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (WDjG6)
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106 103 I think the MTA as a whole is on track to lose almost 3 billion dollars this year.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (dVp+R)
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That's more than Mrs. DeBlasio stole from the city
It's good to have goals.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:26 AM (dVp+R)
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That's more than Mrs. DeBlasio stole from the city
It's good to have goals.
Posted by: Zohran Mamdani at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t)
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I was a heavy user of the TGV in France, and it was fantastic out to about 2.5 hours. And...every train I was on was full. But going farther was a pain, and slower than flying.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (dVp+R)
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Can't a person celebrate someone being murdered for saying things anymore? I thought this was AMERICA!!!
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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We can't make it a legal violation. But we can make it society's standard for minimal civility.
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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We can't make it a legal violation. But we can make it society's standard for minimal civility.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (krQz2)
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Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (qM1j6)
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Biden said air travel was 3000% slower than travel by train.
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (XB2Nn)
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I have to say that -
I love the Japanese train system.
Easy to use. Easy to get where you want to go.
Fast. Reasonably priced. Safe. On time.
A lot of that has to do with it being in Japan and the Japanese people.
Which is to say that it's unlikely to ever work in the USA. Sadly.
On the upside I love driving and having Muh own automobile. So yay!
I love the Japanese train system.
Easy to use. Easy to get where you want to go.
Fast. Reasonably priced. Safe. On time.
A lot of that has to do with it being in Japan and the Japanese people.
Which is to say that it's unlikely to ever work in the USA. Sadly.
On the upside I love driving and having Muh own automobile. So yay!
Posted by: naturalfake at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (XXS9j)
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115 Can't a person celebrate someone being murdered for saying things anymore? I thought this was AMERICA!!!
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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We can't make it a legal violation. But we can make it society's standard for minimal civility.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (krQz2)
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If you were a clerk in the 1820s, went to a street corner, and celebrated something awful, let's say...Minor Attracted Persons, would your employer be obligated to keep you employed once they found out?
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:28 AM (XB2Nn)
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We can't make it a legal violation. But we can make it society's standard for minimal civility.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (krQz2)
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If you were a clerk in the 1820s, went to a street corner, and celebrated something awful, let's say...Minor Attracted Persons, would your employer be obligated to keep you employed once they found out?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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Biden said air travel was 3000% slower than travel by train.
That's because he would run around the tarmac with his arms out making Neeeeooowwwww noises.
That's because he would run around the tarmac with his arms out making Neeeeooowwwww noises.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (Riz8t)
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We can't make it a legal violation. But we can make it society's standard for minimal civility.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (krQz2)
I would enjoy making it a legal violation. We can call it "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (krQz2)
I would enjoy making it a legal violation. We can call it "parading".
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (XB2Nn)
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Got into a discussion with a cousin who insisted that high speed rail should happen in this country. I pointed out that the environmental impact report would take at least a decade to resolve first and God help you if the rail line crossed the sacred breeding ground of the Sideways Walking Cockroach. Then you get the fact that the rails have to be stronger than regular rail lines and need more maintenance.
Posted by: NR Pax
Any discussion of high speed rail, or even passenger rail, has to include the realization that they cannot use the same rails as freight. Huge swaths of land must be taken in order to put the rails in.
Posted by: NR Pax
Any discussion of high speed rail, or even passenger rail, has to include the realization that they cannot use the same rails as freight. Huge swaths of land must be taken in order to put the rails in.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (0U5gm)
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Cut out prohibitive regulation and encourage freight rail to add passenger cars at the tail. They will make a profit and the customer will have a higher speed rail between major destinations than currently available. (excepting the N.E. of which I know nothing)
Posted by: Braenyard
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Doubt it due to regulations. Cheaper to just subsidize MegaBus direct routes between major cities. Get there as fast. Bus service for mass trans is always cheaper per mile than rail of any sort and much more flexible. Same problem though with locking in criminals, homeless, and nutjobs with normies though.
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Doubt it due to regulations. Cheaper to just subsidize MegaBus direct routes between major cities. Get there as fast. Bus service for mass trans is always cheaper per mile than rail of any sort and much more flexible. Same problem though with locking in criminals, homeless, and nutjobs with normies though.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (WDjG6)
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Ok. Probably past the magic 100. The cop shooter from yesterday in Pa lived with his parents in my town. He stalked a young woman who dated him for a short while. He was considered dangerous and had been seen on the property the day before. Hence the larger than normal police presence to serve a warrant. Matthew J Ruth, age 24. He did not commit suicide. An injured cop shot him. We will now be swarmed by news media as a result.
Yay.
Yay.
Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (OpLc2)
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One of those researchers I worked with was afraid to fly. So he'd take a train. From California to HQ in the capitol city. Something like 5 days one way and 4x the cost of an airline ticket. Even though as a government employee he was supposed to take the "most practical and cost effective" method possible.
Dude was a total fucktard. Never changed clothes either.
Dude was a total fucktard. Never changed clothes either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4IgG)
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I was a heavy user of the TGV in France, and it was fantastic out to about 2.5 hours. And...every train I was on was full. But going farther was a pain, and slower than flying.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (dVp+R)
Didn’t France make it illegal to fly short distances where a train is available? They did something along those lines. Not sure what the definition of short distance is though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Flying the American Flag!) at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (dVp+R)
Didn’t France make it illegal to fly short distances where a train is available? They did something along those lines. Not sure what the definition of short distance is though.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (qM1j6)
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The common post on our side is that the left is angrier over Kimmel being fired than a man being shot.
Posted by: Axeman
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Kirk was a dirty stinking Morlock to the Left, Kimmel is celebutard royalty Eloi whom lefties invited into their houses every evening.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (WDjG6)
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And I didn't believe Catholics and other Christians when they repeatedly said that abortion culture would decay the respect for the value of life.
Simply because it wasn't logically necessary.
Posted by: Axeman
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Kirk was a dirty stinking Morlock to the Left, Kimmel is celebutard royalty Eloi whom lefties invited into their houses every evening.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:29 AM (WDjG6)
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And I didn't believe Catholics and other Christians when they repeatedly said that abortion culture would decay the respect for the value of life.
Simply because it wasn't logically necessary.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (krQz2)
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116 Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (qM1j6)
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Broadcast licensees do not have blanket free speech protections to retain their licenses for government owned airwaves.
Kimmel's "joke" is in clear violation of 47 C.F.R. § 73.1217 regarding the dissemination of knowingly false material over the airwaves regarding a crime.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (qM1j6)
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Broadcast licensees do not have blanket free speech protections to retain their licenses for government owned airwaves.
Kimmel's "joke" is in clear violation of 47 C.F.R. § 73.1217 regarding the dissemination of knowingly false material over the airwaves regarding a crime.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
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Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist.
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Nothing about Kimmel's firing goes against being a "free speech absolutist". Kimmel was and remains free to say whatever he wishes. "The government" didn't remove him from the airway. His employer made a calculation that keeping him in his late night spot wasn't good business.
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Nothing about Kimmel's firing goes against being a "free speech absolutist". Kimmel was and remains free to say whatever he wishes. "The government" didn't remove him from the airway. His employer made a calculation that keeping him in his late night spot wasn't good business.
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (TN0g+)
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Jimmy Kimmel still has free speech...just not a late night show anymore.
Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (YwEeS)
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to be fair Biden was not far off that assessment no thanks to the _)(*&^%^&* TSA thanks GWB you ))*&^%^&.
Posted by: paulnjax at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (j5/wM)
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"Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald"
Kimmel has always been free to say whatever he wants.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald"
Kimmel has always been free to say whatever he wants.
Posted by: fd at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (HN3GS)
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Any discussion of high speed rail, or even passenger rail, has to include the realization that they cannot use the same rails as freight. Huge swaths of land must be taken in order to put the rails in.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
I think Elon's solution was to use the Boring Company to construct such tubes underground so speeds could be higher in an evacuated or nearly so tube. Probably a better investment overall than the massive gold rush to AI but unlikely to be done because existing alternatives are 'good enough'.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
I think Elon's solution was to use the Boring Company to construct such tubes underground so speeds could be higher in an evacuated or nearly so tube. Probably a better investment overall than the massive gold rush to AI but unlikely to be done because existing alternatives are 'good enough'.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:32 AM (WDjG6)
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The lunatic commie mayor of Chicago said law enforcement and incarceration are a sickness that he’s going to eradicate.
How do they find people this stupid?
How do they find people this stupid?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2025 11:33 AM (uOKmw)
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Trains have a place. They are GREAT for cheap bulk cargo movement; the only thing better is container shipping. And shipping requires a coast or navigable river.
I like taking the commuter train when there's a blizzard; if possible. I'd rather be in the train than a car when the inevitable lunatic driver slides off the road, and sometimes that driver is me.
Or if I'm going to an event where I know the parking situation or gridlock afterwords will be horrific, like a huge sporting event.
But passenger rail usually only makes sense for commuting if your destination is very close to the rail terminus. Which isn't very often.
Those.... are very narrow situations. Probably not enough to justify billions in passenger rail. Cargo rail? We need more of it... less tractor trailers on the road would be nice.
I like taking the commuter train when there's a blizzard; if possible. I'd rather be in the train than a car when the inevitable lunatic driver slides off the road, and sometimes that driver is me.
Or if I'm going to an event where I know the parking situation or gridlock afterwords will be horrific, like a huge sporting event.
But passenger rail usually only makes sense for commuting if your destination is very close to the rail terminus. Which isn't very often.
Those.... are very narrow situations. Probably not enough to justify billions in passenger rail. Cargo rail? We need more of it... less tractor trailers on the road would be nice.
Posted by: SimoHayek at September 18, 2025 11:33 AM (DD6gL)
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One of those researchers I worked with was afraid to fly. So he'd take a train. From California to HQ in the capitol city. Something like 5 days one way and 4x the cost of an airline ticket. Even though as a government employee he was supposed to take the "most practical and cost effective" method possible.
I'm not sure how he pulled that off. I used to get pinged for choosing a nonstop from IAD or DCA over connecting flights from BWI, even though I live in NoVa midway between IAD and DCA, and nowhere near BWI.
I'm not sure how he pulled that off. I used to get pinged for choosing a nonstop from IAD or DCA over connecting flights from BWI, even though I live in NoVa midway between IAD and DCA, and nowhere near BWI.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
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Eh the boring company has been a lot of nonsense. It’s vaporware-ish. Their big project in Las Vegas is a colossal failure.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:34 AM (qM1j6)
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One of those researchers I worked with was afraid to fly. So he'd take a train. From California to HQ in the capitol city. Something like 5 days one way and 4x the cost of an airline ticket. Even though as a government employee he was supposed to take the "most practical and cost effective" method possible.
Dude was a total fucktard. Never changed clothes either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4IgG)
The famous Madden Bus came about because John Madden was absolutely terrified of flying… RIP John Madden (when the NFL was fun)
Dude was a total fucktard. Never changed clothes either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4IgG)
The famous Madden Bus came about because John Madden was absolutely terrified of flying… RIP John Madden (when the NFL was fun)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:34 AM (/iXAp)
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Nothing about Kimmel's firing goes against being a "free speech absolutist". Kimmel was and remains free to say whatever he wishes. "The government" didn't remove him from the airway. His employer made a calculation that keeping him in his late night spot wasn't good business.
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He specifically refused to apologize which the network asked him to do in order to stay on the air. So insubordinate--that makes his free speech claims specious because the network already by contract controls as well as FCC regulations what he can and cannot say on the show--e.g. obscenities, etc.
Posted by: Crusader
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He specifically refused to apologize which the network asked him to do in order to stay on the air. So insubordinate--that makes his free speech claims specious because the network already by contract controls as well as FCC regulations what he can and cannot say on the show--e.g. obscenities, etc.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:34 AM (WDjG6)
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I could make a list a mile long of all the low-rated TV shows that have been kept on the air for years because of politics.
For instances, Will & Grace. Nobody watched that show. Every single show on ESPN.
I could make a list a mile long of all the low-rated TV shows that have been kept on the air for years because of politics.
For instances, Will & Grace. Nobody watched that show. Every single show on ESPN.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 18, 2025 11:34 AM (HCayI)
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>>>If you look at the profitability of various Amtrak routes you find that the northeast corridor, from Boston to DC, is by far the most profitable. It's the nature of the geography.
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Amtrak doesn't want casual regional customers.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
They do not publish a schedule. If I'm in Philly and want to go to Garden City, I want to see a schedule of the various departure and arrival times and dates. A schedule. They don't publish one.
They make a guessing game out of it. It's infuriating.
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Amtrak doesn't want casual regional customers.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
They do not publish a schedule. If I'm in Philly and want to go to Garden City, I want to see a schedule of the various departure and arrival times and dates. A schedule. They don't publish one.
They make a guessing game out of it. It's infuriating.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (tiYpZ)
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China, for example, is set to continue the breakneck expansion of its high-speed rail,
A few months ago, intense flooding inundated several provinces in China. While not directly related to HSR, an underpass was flooded with light rail cars and hundreds of passenger cars stuck in traffic. Video leaked out of people drowning in the light rail cars. China said only ~400 people died in the metro area.
Anyone who trusts the CCP is a determined asshole.
A few months ago, intense flooding inundated several provinces in China. While not directly related to HSR, an underpass was flooded with light rail cars and hundreds of passenger cars stuck in traffic. Video leaked out of people drowning in the light rail cars. China said only ~400 people died in the metro area.
Anyone who trusts the CCP is a determined asshole.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3)
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The Time for Flying Cars is now, people!
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (AdHga)
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Huge swaths of land must be taken in order to put the rails in.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
"That's less land being bought up by people! PERFECT!"
Posted by: Thomas Paine
"That's less land being bought up by people! PERFECT!"
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (BpO1e)
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The lunatic commie mayor of Chicago said law enforcement and incarceration are a sickness that he’s going to eradicate.
How do they find people this stupid?
I think they're grown in labs. No search necessary.
How do they find people this stupid?
I think they're grown in labs. No search necessary.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
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137 Eh the boring company has been a lot of nonsense. It’s vaporware-ish. Their big project in Las Vegas is a colossal failure.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald a
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Not surprised because technology is hard, yet the Chunnel exists for a reason and it made economic sense versus the weather/safety/time issues with ferries.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald a
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Not surprised because technology is hard, yet the Chunnel exists for a reason and it made economic sense versus the weather/safety/time issues with ferries.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (WDjG6)
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I find it odd when godless people like Keith Olbermann want Charlie Kirk to burn in the hell they don't believe in. Maybe I'm alone in that.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:36 AM (kTd/k)
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The Left is like a yoga instructor. They adopt a contorted position and then torture the facts to fit that position. And any facts that don't confirm to the arbitrary position are kicked out of class and "fact-shamed".
Posted by: muldoon at September 18, 2025 11:36 AM (/iMjX)
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The #7 Flushing Line got new railcars for the opening of the NY World's Fair in 1964. Shea Stadium opened that same year. The special cars were painted in an aqua/bluish color. They were refurbished and repainted in the 80s with a brick red color. They served on until about a decade ago, when they were taken out of service, stripped, and sunk as an artificial reef.
Posted by: MTA Mel at September 18, 2025 11:36 AM (oftw2)
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The FTC is apparently looking for public comment on whether or not "gender affirming care" should be allowed to be advertised as "safe and effective."
https://tinyurl.com/bdh8e6vd
https://tinyurl.com/bdh8e6vd
Posted by: Methos at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (vSvIl)
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I got an erection when I learned that nasty closet homo Jimmy Kimmel was shitcanned. I wanted his head on the wall for a long time.
I think the network wanted to get rid of him for a long time, and were just waiting for the right time. This was that time. With everyone else getting fired over loathsome CK comments, he was just one more fuckwad to get fired.
I wish him nothing but pain and misery and semen in his mouth from $20 blowjobs in subway bathrooms. I will loudly cheer when he departs this realm for a much hotter one.
I think the network wanted to get rid of him for a long time, and were just waiting for the right time. This was that time. With everyone else getting fired over loathsome CK comments, he was just one more fuckwad to get fired.
I wish him nothing but pain and misery and semen in his mouth from $20 blowjobs in subway bathrooms. I will loudly cheer when he departs this realm for a much hotter one.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)
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I could make a list a mile long of all the low-rated TV shows that have been kept on the air for years because of politics.
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TV went in the closet ten years ago. Pulled it out for football season until they hit the knee. That was it. It's put away for good.
I could make a list a mile long of all the low-rated TV shows that have been kept on the air for years because of politics.
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TV went in the closet ten years ago. Pulled it out for football season until they hit the knee. That was it. It's put away for good.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (tiYpZ)
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Does it really matter what the subway car color is? They’re covered in graffiti.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (qM1j6)
Posted by: The China is Asshoe! guy at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
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I think Elon's solution was to use the Boring Company to construct such tubes underground so speeds could be higher in an evacuated or nearly so tube. Probably a better investment overall than the massive gold rush to AI but unlikely to be done because existing alternatives are 'good enough'.
Posted by: whig
One earthquake would end the entire concept.
Posted by: whig
One earthquake would end the entire concept.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (mlg/3)
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I think the network wanted to get rid of him for a long time, and were just waiting for the right time. This was that time. With everyone else getting fired over loathsome CK comments, he was just one more fuckwad to get fired.
Yep
Yep
Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (YwEeS)
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The lunatic commie mayor of Chicago said law enforcement and incarceration are a sickness that he’s going to eradicate.
How do they find people this stupid?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2025 11:33 AM (uOKmw)
Teachers' Union.
How do they find people this stupid?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2025 11:33 AM (uOKmw)
Teachers' Union.
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (g47mK)
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151 I got an erection when I learned that nasty closet homo Jimmy Kimmel was shitcanned. I wanted his head on the wall for a long time.
I think the network wanted to get rid of him for a long time, and were just waiting for the right time. This was that time. With everyone else getting fired over loathsome CK comments, he was just one more fuckwad to get fired.
I wish him nothing but pain and misery and semen in his mouth from $20 blowjobs in subway bathrooms. I will loudly cheer when he departs this realm for a much hotter one.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)
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I suspect it's mostly an affiliate vs. network thing. Like, 90% of it.
The last 10% is ABC being afraid of Carr.
I think the network wanted to get rid of him for a long time, and were just waiting for the right time. This was that time. With everyone else getting fired over loathsome CK comments, he was just one more fuckwad to get fired.
I wish him nothing but pain and misery and semen in his mouth from $20 blowjobs in subway bathrooms. I will loudly cheer when he departs this realm for a much hotter one.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)
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I suspect it's mostly an affiliate vs. network thing. Like, 90% of it.
The last 10% is ABC being afraid of Carr.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)
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Passenger rail is a bullshit boondoggle, and I'm tired of people pretending it's not. Whole bunch of pols and developers were circle jerking in Florida many years back about light rail, despite the fact they had a light rail (TriRail) down in Miami-Dade that was an abysmal failure. "It'll be self-funding through ticket sales!" Narrator: never happened. "But SunRail will be different!" Narrator: it wasn't.
Posted by: It's all crony-enriching bullshit at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (TbWk/)
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If you were a clerk in the 1820s, went to a street corner, and celebrated something awful, let's say...Minor Attracted Persons, would your employer be obligated to keep you employed once they found out?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm just talking about codifying this. Not in law. But as a sort of verbal civil pact.
If you wish or hope for the death of a *specific* individual who has not been arrested for a violent crime--where you are given space to *express* retributive violence--especially by the state--or celebrate a crime involving the death of a specific individual like that, you have broken the civil code, and society will shun you to its pleasure.
A societal minimum that we consent to observe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm just talking about codifying this. Not in law. But as a sort of verbal civil pact.
If you wish or hope for the death of a *specific* individual who has not been arrested for a violent crime--where you are given space to *express* retributive violence--especially by the state--or celebrate a crime involving the death of a specific individual like that, you have broken the civil code, and society will shun you to its pleasure.
A societal minimum that we consent to observe.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (krQz2)
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Emily Zanotti@emzanotti
Someone on the Disney message boards just canceled their Disney vacation because the fired Kimmel and, like, good for his viewer standing up for him, I guess, but now the guy can’t get his deposits back and is even angrier
Someone on the Disney message boards just canceled their Disney vacation because the fired Kimmel and, like, good for his viewer standing up for him, I guess, but now the guy can’t get his deposits back and is even angrier
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (TGPs7)
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Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
The funny thing is, is it has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
The funny thing is, is it has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (HEGiN)
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Weren’t a bunch of comedians like Louis CK fired after they said some things? Oh right they were. I don’t remember anyone on the left objecting.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (qM1j6)
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Not surprised because technology is hard, yet the Chunnel exists for a reason and it made economic sense versus the weather/safety/time issues with ferries.
I think it's the "pulling a vacuum" part that's hard. I don't know if a non-vacuum tunnel over long distances would still be worth it.
I think it's the "pulling a vacuum" part that's hard. I don't know if a non-vacuum tunnel over long distances would still be worth it.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (Riz8t)
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Leftists worship celebutards because they share the same lack of moral values.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
The more you try to grasp the devotion and pigheaded protectionism of such groups, the more and more it appears to be a cult.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
The more you try to grasp the devotion and pigheaded protectionism of such groups, the more and more it appears to be a cult.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (i24o9)
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Kimmel's "joke" is in clear violation of 47 C.F.R. § 73.1217 regarding the dissemination of knowingly false material over the airwaves regarding a crime.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Now you have to be a spoilsport by digging up the specific regulation that immediately undercuts the free speech absolutists. Many "what about this" posts have been blown to the winds. Now they have to do the tedious work to show that regulation is unconstitutional using actual court cases, etc. or just resort to muh opinion out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Now you have to be a spoilsport by digging up the specific regulation that immediately undercuts the free speech absolutists. Many "what about this" posts have been blown to the winds. Now they have to do the tedious work to show that regulation is unconstitutional using actual court cases, etc. or just resort to muh opinion out.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (WDjG6)
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I got an erection when I learned that nasty closet homo Jimmy Kimmel was shitcanned. I wanted his head on the wall for a long time.
Whoa there friend, settle down.
Whoa there friend, settle down.
Posted by: Ed Kemper at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (TbWk/)
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Someone on the Disney message boards just canceled their Disney vacation because the fired Kimmel and, like, good for his viewer standing up for him, I guess, but now the guy can’t get his deposits back and is even angrier
Posted by: Mister Ghost
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Mister Ghost
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (HEGiN)
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I got an erection when I learned that nasty closet homo Jimmy Kimmel was shitcanned. I wanted his head on the wall for a long time.
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You WANT ME ON THAT WALL!
Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel's Head at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (krQz2)
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Jimmy Kimmel is a fat, no talent hack who got lucky in show business.
He should be pushing a jizz mop at a peep show in Philly somewhere.
He should be pushing a jizz mop at a peep show in Philly somewhere.
Posted by: The Truth at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (OU3xT)
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160 I'm just talking about codifying this. Not in law. But as a sort of verbal civil pact.
If you wish or hope for the death of a *specific* individual who has not been arrested for a violent crime--where you are given space to *express* retributive violence--especially by the state--or celebrate a crime involving the death of a specific individual like that, you have broken the civil code, and society will shun you to its pleasure.
A societal minimum that we consent to observe.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (krQz2)
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I just want to make the point that moral behavior, including in speech without lawbreaking, for employees in public, away from their jobs, has been an assumed aspect of American society for centuries.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
If you wish or hope for the death of a *specific* individual who has not been arrested for a violent crime--where you are given space to *express* retributive violence--especially by the state--or celebrate a crime involving the death of a specific individual like that, you have broken the civil code, and society will shun you to its pleasure.
A societal minimum that we consent to observe.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (krQz2)
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I just want to make the point that moral behavior, including in speech without lawbreaking, for employees in public, away from their jobs, has been an assumed aspect of American society for centuries.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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161 Emily Zanotti@emzanotti
Someone on the Disney message boards just canceled their Disney vacation because the fired Kimmel and, like, good for his viewer standing up for him, I guess, but now the guy can’t get his deposits back and is even angrier
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (TGPs7)
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Disney does not do refunds.
Someone on the Disney message boards just canceled their Disney vacation because the fired Kimmel and, like, good for his viewer standing up for him, I guess, but now the guy can’t get his deposits back and is even angrier
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (TGPs7)
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Disney does not do refunds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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>>Amtrak doesn't want casual regional customers.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
It's incredibly poorly managed.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
It's incredibly poorly managed.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (viF8m)
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Not surprised because technology is hard, yet the Chunnel exists for a reason and it made economic sense versus the weather/safety/time issues with ferries.
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Never trust fairies.
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Never trust fairies.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (AdHga)
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What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (kTd/k)
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Kimmel has enough money to be fine. What will hurt him is not having a bunch of trained monkeys cheering for him every night. To an egotistical asshole, that stings more than any financial loss.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:41 AM (qM1j6)
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Ah yes...change the metrics so that trains look better, and poof! Trains will look better.
So absolutely true. But what it doesn't address is how you then PAY FOR said train when nobody rides it, even after you make it look better. This is the real problem. Trains need to provide a reason to your potential riders as to why they should use it. It has to be a better option than other possibilities.
If you can't beat out cars for very short distance trips and planes for longer distance travel, then your trains will never have any ridership other than the homeless (who are not paying customers).
So absolutely true. But what it doesn't address is how you then PAY FOR said train when nobody rides it, even after you make it look better. This is the real problem. Trains need to provide a reason to your potential riders as to why they should use it. It has to be a better option than other possibilities.
If you can't beat out cars for very short distance trips and planes for longer distance travel, then your trains will never have any ridership other than the homeless (who are not paying customers).
Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2025 11:41 AM (RTQn+)
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Wow, original thought!
Posted by: The China is Asshoe! guy
Well, To Be Fair*, they could be wall-eyed clowns.
* Copywrite 2005 - Capt. Eddy Ed 'Toot Toot' Morrissey
Posted by: The China is Asshoe! guy
Well, To Be Fair*, they could be wall-eyed clowns.
* Copywrite 2005 - Capt. Eddy Ed 'Toot Toot' Morrissey
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:41 AM (mlg/3)
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No Refunds !
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK)
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175 What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (kTd/k)
Black face skits on the man show?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:40 AM (kTd/k)
Black face skits on the man show?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:41 AM (qM1j6)
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166 Now you have to be a spoilsport by digging up the specific regulation that immediately undercuts the free speech absolutists. Many "what about this" posts have been blown to the winds. Now they have to do the tedious work to show that regulation is unconstitutional using actual court cases, etc. or just resort to muh opinion out.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (WDjG6)
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If we want the airwaves to be free speech absolutist zones, fine.
But that requires...pulling the FCC out root and branch.
Living in the real world, you use the tools of government, not wish Congress would do something it'll never do (repeal the Communications Act of 1934).
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (WDjG6)
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If we want the airwaves to be free speech absolutist zones, fine.
But that requires...pulling the FCC out root and branch.
Living in the real world, you use the tools of government, not wish Congress would do something it'll never do (repeal the Communications Act of 1934).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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I love trains, and they are in my blood. My grandfather worked at the Union Pacific like 50 years from when he first immigrated to the USA from Denmark. They are romantic and amazing machines. There is a lot of good to say about trains.
But, having spent a month traveling on trains around the country to visit family earlier in the year, I don't like them nearly as much as I used to.
Putting aside the concerns raised above, there are rea practical problems with trains.
1) There are only so many tracks (and realistically can only be so many tracks) so that there is a traffic jam of sorts, with trains having to pull onto side tracks to let each other by. Since Amtrack owns no tracks, passenger trains always step aside.
2) The trains run constantly, but they take time to get to their destination, so they show up at odd times and there are sometimes very long layovers as you wait for the next train to get there. I showed up in places at like 3 in the morning and had waits of up to 5 hours.
But, having spent a month traveling on trains around the country to visit family earlier in the year, I don't like them nearly as much as I used to.
Putting aside the concerns raised above, there are rea practical problems with trains.
1) There are only so many tracks (and realistically can only be so many tracks) so that there is a traffic jam of sorts, with trains having to pull onto side tracks to let each other by. Since Amtrack owns no tracks, passenger trains always step aside.
2) The trains run constantly, but they take time to get to their destination, so they show up at odd times and there are sometimes very long layovers as you wait for the next train to get there. I showed up in places at like 3 in the morning and had waits of up to 5 hours.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (dfIr7)
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Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
The funny thing is, is it has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (HEGiN)
I am still a free speech absolutist.
I believe that the public has a vested interest in monitoring and shaping the content available on public's airwaves entirely consistent with the First Amendment's proscription of government interference with an individual's right to free speech.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
The funny thing is, is it has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:38 AM (HEGiN)
I am still a free speech absolutist.
I believe that the public has a vested interest in monitoring and shaping the content available on public's airwaves entirely consistent with the First Amendment's proscription of government interference with an individual's right to free speech.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (i24o9)
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Amtrak doesn't want casual regional customers.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
They do not publish a schedule. If I'm in Philly and want to go to Garden City, I want to see a schedule of the various departure and arrival times and dates. A schedule. They don't publish one.
They make a guessing game out of it. It's infuriating.
Posted by: Braenyard
Amtrak uses the freight rail network outside of the east coast. Their arrival time estimates are measured in days, because the priority of those rails is freight. They also must reduce their speed because they are on freight rails.
The only reason Amtrak exists is because the feds demanded it. All railroads were determined to get rid of passenger rail, because it was losing so much money, starting with the decade the Model T was introduced.
Try to book passage for some random travel. It's nuts.
They do not publish a schedule. If I'm in Philly and want to go to Garden City, I want to see a schedule of the various departure and arrival times and dates. A schedule. They don't publish one.
They make a guessing game out of it. It's infuriating.
Posted by: Braenyard
Amtrak uses the freight rail network outside of the east coast. Their arrival time estimates are measured in days, because the priority of those rails is freight. They also must reduce their speed because they are on freight rails.
The only reason Amtrak exists is because the feds demanded it. All railroads were determined to get rid of passenger rail, because it was losing so much money, starting with the decade the Model T was introduced.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (0U5gm)
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I haven't watched a Kimmel minute in my life.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (kTd/k)
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The more you try to grasp the devotion and pigheaded protectionism of such groups, the more and more it appears to be a cult.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Marx complained about religion as opium of the masses because he was in effect founding a secular religion. He didn't like the competition existing. That is leftism--if they cannot totally subvert religion, they want to banish it and their adherents reindoctrinated to quash it.
Twas ever thus--even primitive despotism soon recognized way back in human history that some sort of religion served as a back channel to augment political control over the masses. Leftism is simply the latest to ally state power with 'secular' religion in order to control society.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Marx complained about religion as opium of the masses because he was in effect founding a secular religion. He didn't like the competition existing. That is leftism--if they cannot totally subvert religion, they want to banish it and their adherents reindoctrinated to quash it.
Twas ever thus--even primitive despotism soon recognized way back in human history that some sort of religion served as a back channel to augment political control over the masses. Leftism is simply the latest to ally state power with 'secular' religion in order to control society.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (WDjG6)
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151 I got an erection when I learned that nasty closet homo Jimmy Kimmel was shitcanned. I wanted his head on the wall for a long time.
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It wasn't Disney or the Law that shitcanned him. It was a station provider that wrote a letter saying, we don't play that shit, we're preempting him. The provider, Netstar, I think, owned so many stations (mostly flyover country) that Disney couldn't afford to lose them.
Head of the FCC wrote them a letter commending them for their actions and hoped that others would follow their example in the future. He didn't cite any law.
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It wasn't Disney or the Law that shitcanned him. It was a station provider that wrote a letter saying, we don't play that shit, we're preempting him. The provider, Netstar, I think, owned so many stations (mostly flyover country) that Disney couldn't afford to lose them.
Head of the FCC wrote them a letter commending them for their actions and hoped that others would follow their example in the future. He didn't cite any law.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (tiYpZ)
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>>I think Elon's solution was to use the Boring Company to construct such tubes underground so speeds could be higher in an evacuated or nearly so tube. Probably a better investment overall than the massive gold rush to AI but unlikely to be done because existing alternatives are 'good enough'.
Posted by: whig
Almost everything Elon does is for one purpose, Mars.
A tunneling machine will come in handy up there if he ever makes it.
Posted by: whig
Almost everything Elon does is for one purpose, Mars.
A tunneling machine will come in handy up there if he ever makes it.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (viF8m)
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Odds a Hawaiian judge forces Disney to put the show back on?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (qM1j6)
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I wonder if Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Corolla are still friendly…they went opposite directions after the man show
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (k0PcD)
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less tractor trailers on the road would be nice"
I lol @ those vacation types who romance urro travel - try a main highway, especially on weekends. The truck traffic is epic and unavoidable...
Freight moves by rail. I'll drive or fly.
I lol @ those vacation types who romance urro travel - try a main highway, especially on weekends. The truck traffic is epic and unavoidable...
Freight moves by rail. I'll drive or fly.
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (tubbA)
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187 It wasn't Disney or the Law that shitcanned him. It was a station provider that wrote a letter saying, we don't play that shit, we're preempting him. The provider, Netstar, I think, owned so many stations (mostly flyover country) that Disney couldn't afford to lose them.
Head of the FCC wrote them a letter commending them for their actions and hoped that others would follow their example in the future. He didn't cite any law.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (tiYpZ)
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The conspiracy theory (see?) is that Carr's announcement was jawboning to the affiliates to force their hand and do the wishes of the administration.
Head of the FCC wrote them a letter commending them for their actions and hoped that others would follow their example in the future. He didn't cite any law.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:42 AM (tiYpZ)
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The conspiracy theory (see?) is that Carr's announcement was jawboning to the affiliates to force their hand and do the wishes of the administration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy John Prine
"The train tracks all run parallel
...but they'll all meet up some day."
"The train tracks all run parallel
...but they'll all meet up some day."
Posted by: muldoon at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (/iMjX)
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185 I haven't watched a Kimmel minute in my life.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Man Show way back in the day. I always thought of Kimmel as a greasy creep that would do anything to be famous. Carolla was and still is a standup guy.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Man Show way back in the day. I always thought of Kimmel as a greasy creep that would do anything to be famous. Carolla was and still is a standup guy.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:43 AM (WDjG6)
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more train problems
3) Trains are old tech and they feel it. Even the nicest, newest ones rumble and creak and bounce and sway around and are loud. They are small inside, even though there's more room than a jet, you have limited space for even a deluxe room.
4) While the food is actually good and you can eat at an actual table, the menu is necessarily very limited, so if you ride more than a day or two it starts to get kid of repetitive.
3) Trains are old tech and they feel it. Even the nicest, newest ones rumble and creak and bounce and sway around and are loud. They are small inside, even though there's more room than a jet, you have limited space for even a deluxe room.
4) While the food is actually good and you can eat at an actual table, the menu is necessarily very limited, so if you ride more than a day or two it starts to get kid of repetitive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (mlg/3)
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California residents can give you about 200 billion reasons why rail is undesirable. But the biggest thing about all these smokescreen plans for human efficiency is that they're entirely against human nature. The single most important invention in human history when it comes to personal mobility and chasing our individual dreams is the automobile.
Can't have that. Leads to too much liberty. Too many independent thoughts.
Can't have that. Leads to too much liberty. Too many independent thoughts.
Posted by: red speck at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (0Id0S)
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196 What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
Posted by: Northernlurker
Being Adam Carolla's side-kick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (mlg/3)
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I thought his black face was hilarious.
Posted by: Northernlurker
Being Adam Carolla's side-kick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (mlg/3)
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I thought his black face was hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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I would enjoy making it a legal violation. We can call it "parading".
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (XB2Nn)
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I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
I think he's afraid of all those parades breaking out willy-nilly!
Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (XB2Nn)
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I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
I think he's afraid of all those parades breaking out willy-nilly!
Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
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189 Odds a Hawaiian judge forces Disney to put the show back on?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Zero. No jurisdiction. There will probably be a civil case over the remainder of Kimmel's contract resulting in a settlement but that turns on contract law, not FCC action.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Zero. No jurisdiction. There will probably be a civil case over the remainder of Kimmel's contract resulting in a settlement but that turns on contract law, not FCC action.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (WDjG6)
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Almost everything Elon does is for one purpose, Mars.
A tunneling machine will come in handy up there if he ever makes it.
That's a really difficult way to solve the vacuum over long distances problem.
A tunneling machine will come in handy up there if he ever makes it.
That's a really difficult way to solve the vacuum over long distances problem.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (Riz8t)
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Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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73 I road the trains a lot when living in Germany. In a densely populated country, rail travel is very convenient.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at Werk at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM
Not to mention that trains work so well in Germany that the Autobahn has zero traffic on it and is soon to be torn up to be replaced with more railroad track.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at Werk at September 18, 2025 11:20 AM
Not to mention that trains work so well in Germany that the Autobahn has zero traffic on it and is soon to be torn up to be replaced with more railroad track.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (AnKDS)
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (qBdHI)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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Maybe Kimmel and Howard Stern can start a boy band and get all the pussy?
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (AdHga)
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>>That's a really difficult way to solve the vacuum over long distances problem.
It's a really good way to build tunnels to travel between secure destinations on a planet with no breathable air.
It's a really good way to build tunnels to travel between secure destinations on a planet with no breathable air.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (viF8m)
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I just want to make the point that moral behavior, including in speech without lawbreaking, for employees in public, away from their jobs, has been an assumed aspect of American society for centuries.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
When the person who employs you decides you are more of a liability than an asset, they let you go.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
When the person who employs you decides you are more of a liability than an asset, they let you go.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (HEGiN)
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> One of those researchers I worked with was afraid to fly. So he'd take a train. From California to HQ in the capitol city. Something like 5 days one way and 4x the cost of an airline ticket. Even though as a government employee he was supposed to take the "most practical and cost effective" method possible.
I'm not sure how he pulled that off. I used to get pinged for choosing a nonstop from IAD or DCA over connecting flights from BWI, even though I live in NoVa midway between IAD and DCA, and nowhere near BWI.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Re-directing grant monies to cover it. These clowns were GS-13 and 14 level researchers who pulled in grant monies via "students" they'd con into working with them. The various universities, many foreign, would provide grant money to house, pay the salary and whatever for the student. But if their sponsoring Federal worker needed to take the train to D.C.? Well, that's just the cost of researching bullshit.
Went on for years. Probably still does. Zero oversight.
I'm not sure how he pulled that off. I used to get pinged for choosing a nonstop from IAD or DCA over connecting flights from BWI, even though I live in NoVa midway between IAD and DCA, and nowhere near BWI.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Re-directing grant monies to cover it. These clowns were GS-13 and 14 level researchers who pulled in grant monies via "students" they'd con into working with them. The various universities, many foreign, would provide grant money to house, pay the salary and whatever for the student. But if their sponsoring Federal worker needed to take the train to D.C.? Well, that's just the cost of researching bullshit.
Went on for years. Probably still does. Zero oversight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)
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I thought his black face was hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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His willingness to do that on air probably indicates far darker things that Jimmy did to get ahead.
Some people are so desperate to become 'famous' that they will literally do anything to get it.
If they have to suck a dick, they will do so.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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His willingness to do that on air probably indicates far darker things that Jimmy did to get ahead.
Some people are so desperate to become 'famous' that they will literally do anything to get it.
If they have to suck a dick, they will do so.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (WDjG6)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Thrifty… ate the chips before throwing the bag. No waste
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Thrifty… ate the chips before throwing the bag. No waste
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (k0PcD)
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Not surprised because technology is hard, yet the Chunnel exists for a reason and it made economic sense versus the weather/safety/time issues with ferries.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (WDjG6)
The chunnel was done so the globalists could take England.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:35 AM (WDjG6)
The chunnel was done so the globalists could take England.
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (XB2Nn)
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Robo-taxis and Cybercabs from Tesla will provide transportation for poor or disabled. Ultimately there will be fewer privately owned cars since it will be cheaper to ride-hail. Less need for parking since car utilization will be much higher. Cars will provide more flexibility, convenience and safety than fixed-route rail. Remember Charlotte.
Posted by: krennik at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (T0tPD)
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There's another problem with the "more mass transit" call. The profitability is a serious issue. Yes, roads are a net loss for government as well: they don't earn money, even a toll bridge. But there's a huge difference.
First, roads allow people to go wherever they want, at any time they want, for any reason they want. They represent freedom where trains represent control.
Second, while a train can carry a lot of freight and people -- second only to boats for cost efficiency -- roads do that and allow for the above liberty, but more importantly, allow for emergency and first responder traffic and tourism dollars. People don't come to a city to ride the train, they come to go places like family who don't live at train stops.
Third, you cannot go grocery shopping on the train. You can get a couple bags, but that once-a-month big shopping trip? Completey impractical and unreasonable on a train. Even if you can somehow get all your freight on the light rail car, what are you gonna do at the station when you're let off?
First, roads allow people to go wherever they want, at any time they want, for any reason they want. They represent freedom where trains represent control.
Second, while a train can carry a lot of freight and people -- second only to boats for cost efficiency -- roads do that and allow for the above liberty, but more importantly, allow for emergency and first responder traffic and tourism dollars. People don't come to a city to ride the train, they come to go places like family who don't live at train stops.
Third, you cannot go grocery shopping on the train. You can get a couple bags, but that once-a-month big shopping trip? Completey impractical and unreasonable on a train. Even if you can somehow get all your freight on the light rail car, what are you gonna do at the station when you're let off?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:48 AM (dfIr7)
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I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
Posted by: Axeman
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Stiller is Hollywood nepot and one of the lesser talented actors hacked up by the dying star system.
Never found him as funny as his dad.
Posted by: Axeman
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Stiller is Hollywood nepot and one of the lesser talented actors hacked up by the dying star system.
Never found him as funny as his dad.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (WDjG6)
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Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
I think Brent Bozell's son was convicted of breaking a window. He was one of the few non-leftist vandals that day.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
I think Brent Bozell's son was convicted of breaking a window. He was one of the few non-leftist vandals that day.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (FMtrg)
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>>That's a really difficult way to solve the vacuum over long distances problem.
It's a really good way to build tunnels to travel between secure destinations on a planet with no breathable air.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (viF8m)
Elon Musk is much smarter than I am. But I’m gonna step out on a limb here: he’s never gonna step foot on Mars. He’s what 52 or 53 years old? He’s already to the point where his body is not gonna tolerate the rigors of space flight. Astronauting is a young man’s game
It's a really good way to build tunnels to travel between secure destinations on a planet with no breathable air.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2025 11:46 AM (viF8m)
Elon Musk is much smarter than I am. But I’m gonna step out on a limb here: he’s never gonna step foot on Mars. He’s what 52 or 53 years old? He’s already to the point where his body is not gonna tolerate the rigors of space flight. Astronauting is a young man’s game
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (k0PcD)
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Plus, trains are so romantic! Think of all the wonderful views of.... west Texas. Or central Kansas...
Heh.
Heh.
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (tubbA)
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Make John Henry's hammer great again.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (63Dwl)
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Man Show way back in the day. I always thought of Kimmel as a greasy creep that would do anything to be famous. Carolla was and still is a standup guy.
Posted by: whig
Kimmel was the Ed McMahon to Corolla's Carson.
He was side meat. That's all.
Posted by: whig
Kimmel was the Ed McMahon to Corolla's Carson.
He was side meat. That's all.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (HEGiN)
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Actually, I doubt in the non-AOS-type moron knows that almost all of them were convicted of "parading".
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:44 AM (krQz2)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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I just want to make the point that moral behavior, including in speech without lawbreaking, for employees in public, away from their jobs, has been an assumed aspect of American society for centuries.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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I wasn't contesting it.
*Nobody* can become too big of an embarrassment to their employer. And on screen when you do something that embarrasses your employer, everybody knows that you did.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
It's not suddenly different because it's on a screen.
The only question that really remains is who defines the moral strictures of that assumption.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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I wasn't contesting it.
*Nobody* can become too big of an embarrassment to their employer. And on screen when you do something that embarrasses your employer, everybody knows that you did.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (krQz2)
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It seems to me that 15 minute cities would offer target rich environments for Muslim rape gangs, Muslim theft rings and, most importantly, Muslim mass protests that would tie everything up in knots.
It seems to me that 15 minute cities would offer target rich environments for Muslim rape gangs, Muslim theft rings and, most importantly, Muslim mass protests that would tie everything up in knots.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (Tv15w)
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I can tell you light rail in the Denver metro area takes forever from point A to B, probably 4 times as long as a car even in rush hour. Not that you'd ever want to ride it with the various scumbags on it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (rvwwT)
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The Japanese train system looks fine but the logistics are obviously different than in the U.S. And their trains are clean. Perhaps graffiti =the death penalty.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (kTd/k)
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175 What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
Posted by: Northernlurker
Crying because he hates guns.
Posted by: Northernlurker
Crying because he hates guns.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:50 AM (BpO1e)
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Perhaps graffiti =the death penalty.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
OK, you have my attention.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
OK, you have my attention.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 11:50 AM (BpO1e)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (63Dwl)
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Light rail SOUNDS like a neat idea, until you realize that its only really useful for rich young people who live downtown and don't do much shopping. They are a trash can the city burns money in (usually money from the rest of the state as well, because the biggest city gets the lion's share of state tax money).
Roads make money in the sense that they are the economic drivers for the city, bringing in tourism, freight, and moving commerce around.
Big freight trains earn money by carrying freight and passengers, but are extremely limited in where they can and will go. They have their use, but cannot replace roads or cars.
All three have their place, but the train-fixation by some is simply ignorant romanticism.
Roads make money in the sense that they are the economic drivers for the city, bringing in tourism, freight, and moving commerce around.
Big freight trains earn money by carrying freight and passengers, but are extremely limited in where they can and will go. They have their use, but cannot replace roads or cars.
All three have their place, but the train-fixation by some is simply ignorant romanticism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (dfIr7)
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221 One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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shipwreckedcrew said it was one of the things one of his 91 clients was charged for.
Here's the tweet where he says it:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/
1960762628080590924
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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shipwreckedcrew said it was one of the things one of his 91 clients was charged for.
Here's the tweet where he says it:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/
1960762628080590924
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)
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sustainability researchers
Oof. Rail is inherently less sustainable because it requires absolutely fixed infrastructure. Yes, you can lay new track and take up old track... but not nearly as flexibly as roads. THIS is the ultimate drawback to rail for passengers - it goes from point A to point B, and if it goes from point A to B to C to E to F, with an occasional side run to D, it loses any sort of appeal in simplicity. (It becomes a subway.)
I would love to live where I could hop down to the rail station, ride into town, get around town with not much difficulty on subway/elevated/light rail, get back on the train and go back to the rail station, then hop on home.
But, since I don't just buy a bag of groceries when I go in, but DIY items like boards, pipes, plywood, tools, etc. I need a car/truck anyway. Since I have one, why would I not use it when I make what would be that easy trip on the train (in an ideal world)? Especially since I could, mid-trip, snap my fingers and realize I needed something else, drive outside the other side of town and get it, then go home?
Oof. Rail is inherently less sustainable because it requires absolutely fixed infrastructure. Yes, you can lay new track and take up old track... but not nearly as flexibly as roads. THIS is the ultimate drawback to rail for passengers - it goes from point A to point B, and if it goes from point A to B to C to E to F, with an occasional side run to D, it loses any sort of appeal in simplicity. (It becomes a subway.)
I would love to live where I could hop down to the rail station, ride into town, get around town with not much difficulty on subway/elevated/light rail, get back on the train and go back to the rail station, then hop on home.
But, since I don't just buy a bag of groceries when I go in, but DIY items like boards, pipes, plywood, tools, etc. I need a car/truck anyway. Since I have one, why would I not use it when I make what would be that easy trip on the train (in an ideal world)? Especially since I could, mid-trip, snap my fingers and realize I needed something else, drive outside the other side of town and get it, then go home?
Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (RTQn+)
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I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
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define civility , you little nepo-baby
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define civility , you little nepo-baby
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (g47mK)
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The chunnel was done so the globalists could take England.
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Eh, England has a long history of shipping and the ferries, etc. already existed. For the most part, the illegals are using small boats to cross the Channel, not the Chunnel and France allowing those illegal camps on teh coast where those boats launch from is a major irritant between France and UK today.
You might as well blame France for sharing their migrant miseries with UK via its internal rail system making it easy for illegals to get to the coast with a nudge nudge wink wink.
Posted by: ...
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Eh, England has a long history of shipping and the ferries, etc. already existed. For the most part, the illegals are using small boats to cross the Channel, not the Chunnel and France allowing those illegal camps on teh coast where those boats launch from is a major irritant between France and UK today.
You might as well blame France for sharing their migrant miseries with UK via its internal rail system making it easy for illegals to get to the coast with a nudge nudge wink wink.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM (WDjG6)
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222 I wasn't contesting it.
*Nobody* can become too big of an embarrassment to their employer. And on screen when you do something that embarrasses your employer, everybody knows that you did.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (krQz2)
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I think we need more.
I think the broadcasters have been flagrantly violating their license agreements for years and must be brought to heel or destroyed.
They can give up their bandwidth and go online only if they don't want to agree to those strictures.
*Nobody* can become too big of an embarrassment to their employer. And on screen when you do something that embarrasses your employer, everybody knows that you did.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (krQz2)
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I think we need more.
I think the broadcasters have been flagrantly violating their license agreements for years and must be brought to heel or destroyed.
They can give up their bandwidth and go online only if they don't want to agree to those strictures.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Oh, an a train-focused transportation system would be ideal for folks inclined to go all stabby-stabby on their fellow passengers.
Whatever are we waiting for?
Oh, an a train-focused transportation system would be ideal for folks inclined to go all stabby-stabby on their fellow passengers.
Whatever are we waiting for?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM (Tv15w)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Well, we can't let that guy back out on to the streets!
Because that would be a chaos of chip bags thrown at people on the streets.
We can let the schizophrenic that stabbed Iryna Zarutska out 14 times, but we can't have people throwing chip bags at cops who should be defunded!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Well, we can't let that guy back out on to the streets!
Because that would be a chaos of chip bags thrown at people on the streets.
We can let the schizophrenic that stabbed Iryna Zarutska out 14 times, but we can't have people throwing chip bags at cops who should be defunded!
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
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The only reason Amtrak exists is because the feds demanded it. All railroads were determined to get rid of passenger rail, because it was losing so much money, starting with the decade the Model T was introduced.
Trains made money moving people up to the 60s or so when airlines became more effective and comfortable. Its still kind of a neat way to travel but I would not do so with kids or if you have any sort of schedule. And its a bit exhausting.
Trains made money moving people up to the 60s or so when airlines became more effective and comfortable. Its still kind of a neat way to travel but I would not do so with kids or if you have any sort of schedule. And its a bit exhausting.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (dfIr7)
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My friensh! I think that our friends on the left have not yet noticed the plank sitting in their own eye ! This shocks and sadd...no , actually it does not.
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (g47mK)
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What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
Posted by: Northernlurker
The one where he allowed perverted old men to penetrate him so he could take home a check. Or the other where he diddled little boys and told them if they said anything their parents would be very mad at them.
But that may not have been him, or it may not have been a bit. Not sure.
Hilarious stuff though!
Posted by: Northernlurker
The one where he allowed perverted old men to penetrate him so he could take home a check. Or the other where he diddled little boys and told them if they said anything their parents would be very mad at them.
But that may not have been him, or it may not have been a bit. Not sure.
Hilarious stuff though!
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (XB2Nn)
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Kimmel was the Ed McMahon to Corolla's Carson.
He was side meat. That's all.
Posted by: rickb223
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Ed was more likeable than Kimmel. Kimmel always seem to have that flop sweat thing going.
He was side meat. That's all.
Posted by: rickb223
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Ed was more likeable than Kimmel. Kimmel always seem to have that flop sweat thing going.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (WDjG6)
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Make John Henry's hammer great again.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM
Cut. Jib. Newsletter?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM
Cut. Jib. Newsletter?
Posted by: Paul P. at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (0sNs1)
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I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
What the hell does that even mean??
What the hell does that even mean??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (dfIr7)
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while a train can carry a lot of freight and people "
Sure. And then run head on into the distribution problem.
The more people and goods on board, the longer time and more space required to on and offload....
OTOH, I can offload 3 people and a bunch of shopping in a couple of minutes and in about 10×25 foot space...
Sure. And then run head on into the distribution problem.
The more people and goods on board, the longer time and more space required to on and offload....
OTOH, I can offload 3 people and a bunch of shopping in a couple of minutes and in about 10×25 foot space...
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (tubbA)
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I like trains!
Posted by: Joey "Choo-Choo" Biden at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (0sNs1)
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*Nobody* can become too big of an embarrassment to their employer. And on screen when you do something that embarrasses your employer, everybody knows that you did.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
Posted by: Axeman
Dylan Mulvany has entered the chat.
I could do with a little less FCC saber-rattling, that's all.
Posted by: Axeman
Dylan Mulvany has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:55 AM (HEGiN)
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242 I saw Ben Stiller saying that Donald Trump broke civility when he pardoned all those J6-ers.
What the hell does that even mean??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (dfIr7)
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That he's bought all the propaganda about 1/6 as the worst thing ever in the history of mankind, something no one outside of tight and fairly small political bubbles give two shits about.
What the hell does that even mean??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:54 AM (dfIr7)
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That he's bought all the propaganda about 1/6 as the worst thing ever in the history of mankind, something no one outside of tight and fairly small political bubbles give two shits about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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You might as well blame France for sharing their migrant miseries with UK via its internal rail system making it easy for illegals to get to the coast with a nudge nudge wink wink.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM (WDjG6)
All I know is the people who were against it were 100% correct.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM (WDjG6)
All I know is the people who were against it were 100% correct.
Posted by: ... at September 18, 2025 11:55 AM (XB2Nn)
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What funny bits is Kimmel known for?
The Man Show was consistently funny but I can't remember any great bits by Kimmel. He did a Carl Malone bit that was mildly amusing at times.
The Man Show was consistently funny but I can't remember any great bits by Kimmel. He did a Carl Malone bit that was mildly amusing at times.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at Werk at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (PSEDc)
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I remember lots of bits Carson, the guy with the big jaw and Ferguson were known for. I draw a blank when it comes to Kimmel.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (kTd/k)
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You won't unconvince me that a hard on for light rail is among the reasons Iryna Zarutska's murder sat on the news coverage back burner for so long.
Posted by: Ben Sears at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (WzTQR)
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Ed was more likeable than Kimmel. Kimmel always seem to have that flop sweat thing going.
Posted by: whig
Very true. I just meant that The Man Show was Corolla. Kimmel was just along for the ride.
Posted by: whig
Very true. I just meant that The Man Show was Corolla. Kimmel was just along for the ride.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (HEGiN)
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I think we need more.
I think the broadcasters have been flagrantly violating their license agreements for years and must be brought to heel or destroyed.
They can give up their bandwidth and go online only if they don't want to agree to those strictures.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM
Harsh, but fair.
I think the broadcasters have been flagrantly violating their license agreements for years and must be brought to heel or destroyed.
They can give up their bandwidth and go online only if they don't want to agree to those strictures.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:52 AM
Harsh, but fair.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (Tv15w)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 11:57 AM (HEGiN)
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Sure. And then run head on into the distribution problem.
The more people and goods on board, the longer time and more space required to on and offload
Well its like airplanes and ships, they require an infrastructure to offload their materials and they get moved to specific locations by trucks on roads. Once you have it set up, it works really well.
The more people and goods on board, the longer time and more space required to on and offload
Well its like airplanes and ships, they require an infrastructure to offload their materials and they get moved to specific locations by trucks on roads. Once you have it set up, it works really well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 11:57 AM (dfIr7)
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One was convicted of assault for throwing an empty chip bag.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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shipwreckedcrew said it was one of the things one of his 91 clients was charged for.
Here's the tweet where he says it:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/
1960762628080590924
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)
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Well, he only says: "I had a J6 client charged with throwing a potato chip bag." That's not a conviction. It also doesn't say what else the client was charged with, or the severity of the charge (misdemeanor, etc).
The creepy gay subway thrower was charged with misdemeanor assault, by the way. He pleaded not guilty. DOJ botched this by over-charging, looking foolish when they couldn't get a felon indictment, and then everyone forgot about the story.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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Link? I've seen that claim made repeatedly. I can't verify it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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shipwreckedcrew said it was one of the things one of his 91 clients was charged for.
Here's the tweet where he says it:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/
1960762628080590924
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)
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Well, he only says: "I had a J6 client charged with throwing a potato chip bag." That's not a conviction. It also doesn't say what else the client was charged with, or the severity of the charge (misdemeanor, etc).
The creepy gay subway thrower was charged with misdemeanor assault, by the way. He pleaded not guilty. DOJ botched this by over-charging, looking foolish when they couldn't get a felon indictment, and then everyone forgot about the story.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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253 Harsh, but fair.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (0sNs1)
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The right ceding all regulatory authority to the left by refusing to actually attack the bureaucratic centers that became infested, top to bottom, with ideological and partisan enemies was a mistake.
Time to fix it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (0sNs1)
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The right ceding all regulatory authority to the left by refusing to actually attack the bureaucratic centers that became infested, top to bottom, with ideological and partisan enemies was a mistake.
Time to fix it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
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The trouble with mass transit is it doesn't usually take you to your house or destination away from home. And it doesn't do those things when you need them.
Rental cars, taxi cabs, and Uber rides have become enormously expensive. I often spend more on local transportation when I fly somewhere than on the airplane tickets themselves. Same would go for train travel and bus travel.
Domestic travel will be greatly affected by the coming self-driving car revolution. We are much closer to having self-driving cars than most people realize. Rather than take public transportation between air-, train-, or bus-terminals, people will get in their self-driving cars, maybe go to sleep, and end up at their destination a day or two later.
The maturation of self-driving cars will be analogous to the Hemingway's comment on going bankrupt:
“How did you go bankrupt?” (How was self-driving technology perfected?)
“Two ways.” “Gradually and then suddenly.”
Self-driving cars will take over suddenly when it happens, and it will happen sooner than most people think.
Rental cars, taxi cabs, and Uber rides have become enormously expensive. I often spend more on local transportation when I fly somewhere than on the airplane tickets themselves. Same would go for train travel and bus travel.
Domestic travel will be greatly affected by the coming self-driving car revolution. We are much closer to having self-driving cars than most people realize. Rather than take public transportation between air-, train-, or bus-terminals, people will get in their self-driving cars, maybe go to sleep, and end up at their destination a day or two later.
The maturation of self-driving cars will be analogous to the Hemingway's comment on going bankrupt:
“How did you go bankrupt?” (How was self-driving technology perfected?)
“Two ways.” “Gradually and then suddenly.”
Self-driving cars will take over suddenly when it happens, and it will happen sooner than most people think.
Posted by: Ralph at September 18, 2025 11:57 AM (8WZD4)
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Which syllable of Kimmel is accented?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (kTd/k)
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Out of left field Oberlin student says we ‘need to bring back political assassinations’ in wake of Charlie Kirk murder
From today's New York Post
I imagine the conversation would go something like this:
LEFT: Normalize political assassinations!
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
From today's New York Post
I imagine the conversation would go something like this:
LEFT: Normalize political assassinations!
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
Posted by: imp at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (g6TN6)
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Oh, one great use for "light rail" is to run it from hubs in to the local airport. Especially if there are airport functions in those outlying facilities. Build a check-in facility in south Arlington and run the light rail straight up 360 to DFW airport, where it drops you off to ride the airport shuttle rail. I'd pay some extra for that.
It might work because DFW is a huge regional airport hub and you'd have paid riders. It probably wouldn't work in Amarillo.
It might work because DFW is a huge regional airport hub and you'd have paid riders. It probably wouldn't work in Amarillo.
Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (RTQn+)
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Jimmy Kimmel is the Rachel Corrie of talk show hosts.
Wait for it.
His ratings just got flattened.
Jimmy Kimmel is the Rachel Corrie of talk show hosts.
Wait for it.
His ratings just got flattened.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (Tv15w)
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Very true. I just meant that The Man Show was Corolla. Kimmel was just along for the ride.
Posted by: rickb223
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I get ya. Carolla used to be on some MTV show with Dr. Drew before the Man Show. Both, for celebrities, seem to be based compared to a lot of other more political celebrities.
Posted by: rickb223
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I get ya. Carolla used to be on some MTV show with Dr. Drew before the Man Show. Both, for celebrities, seem to be based compared to a lot of other more political celebrities.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (WDjG6)
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237 My Ex had never been on a train. She wanted to go visit her Mom, and I had to pick up a car there (MD) to make a few bucks. Youngstown to Union Station DC, 36 hours. Driving time about a slow 7 hours. Can't remember what the fare would have been, early 80's but it was real high with a compartment, needed with a couple little rug rats. She drove back, I drove Mamas Caddy back.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (gm9Sb)
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Jimmy Kimmel is the Rachel Corrie of talk show hosts.
Wait for it.
His ratings just got flattened.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:
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Funnier joke than Kimmel would ever make.
Wait for it.
His ratings just got flattened.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:
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Funnier joke than Kimmel would ever make.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (WDjG6)
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When the person who employs you decides you are more of a liability than an asset, they let you go.
Posted by: rickb223
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Anything between an employer hiring or firing an employee is government horse hockey.
Posted by: rickb223
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Anything between an employer hiring or firing an employee is government horse hockey.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (tiYpZ)
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I've been predicting that Kimmel was done since Colbert got axed and Kimmel proceeded to buy a villa in Italy shortly afterward.
He knew he was done, and decided to piss in the punchbon the way out.
He knew he was done, and decided to piss in the punchbon the way out.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (AtXZW)
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31 At this point in time if someone wants me to take a train my first thought would be that poor young lady slaughtered on a train in NC. No thanks….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (YobFY)
VRE has employed seemingly universally male buff folks staying in the trains, walking them to check paid tickets.
VRE has NO violence or other issues of other DC area trains.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 11:11 AM (YobFY)
VRE has employed seemingly universally male buff folks staying in the trains, walking them to check paid tickets.
VRE has NO violence or other issues of other DC area trains.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 18, 2025 11:59 AM (WvZaB)
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Thx CBD. A friend posted his opinion on Facebook about Kimmel. I chimed in about the affiliates getting angry. A lady we know said this is a "scary time '. I just shook my head. The left has been in charge of culture and politics for so long they know nothing else but fear. Pathetic and dangerous
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2025 12:00 PM (lmTGO)
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Rail lines are highly susceptible to terrorism also.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 18, 2025 12:00 PM (rvwwT)
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"Ah yes...change the metrics so that trains look better, and poof! Trains will look better. By all means, avoid that yucky measure of profitability, because really, what does that tell you about the technology?"
A year or so ago the EPA banned most refrigerants commonly in use and stared requiring a new one that is semi flammable and an expensive pain in the for builders as it require extar fireproofing chases and considerations. But the EPA had a metric to show how much people would save to make it look like a good idea. Supposedly the new refrigerant is more efficient It isn't but equipment manufactures are being required to have more efficient systems. But the biggest saving would be, get this, global warming mitigation and reduced costs from climate catastrophes. I am not making this up, they are dead serious in their studies.
We are being ruled by idiots.
A year or so ago the EPA banned most refrigerants commonly in use and stared requiring a new one that is semi flammable and an expensive pain in the for builders as it require extar fireproofing chases and considerations. But the EPA had a metric to show how much people would save to make it look like a good idea. Supposedly the new refrigerant is more efficient It isn't but equipment manufactures are being required to have more efficient systems. But the biggest saving would be, get this, global warming mitigation and reduced costs from climate catastrophes. I am not making this up, they are dead serious in their studies.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2025 12:00 PM (GUOwU)
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Old me would have been upset about Kimmel getting fired. I used to be a free speech absolutist. But now? Fuck you war. We’re beyond being nice and principled.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (qM1j6)
What?? Kimmel's firing is absolutist as far as the 1st Amendment is concerned. Did the government put him in jail for his speech? No?
What the 1st Amendment doesn't do is save a person from the consequences of his environment in which he spoke.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 18, 2025 11:30 AM (qM1j6)
What?? Kimmel's firing is absolutist as far as the 1st Amendment is concerned. Did the government put him in jail for his speech? No?
What the 1st Amendment doesn't do is save a person from the consequences of his environment in which he spoke.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 18, 2025 12:01 PM (g8Ew8)
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Ben Stiller in real life sounds as crazy as his dad’s characters Frank Costanza or Arthur Spooner
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 12:01 PM (sBt/s)
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Out of left field Oberlin student says we ‘need to bring back political assassinations’ in wake of Charlie Kirk murder
From today's New York Post
I imagine the conversation would go something like this:
LEFT: Normalize political assassinations!
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
Posted by: imp at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (g6TN6)
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100% this slag woulda been a Red Guard for Mao. 100% she woulda been one of the RG killed by the army after they disbanded the RG but some refused to give it up.
Unclear what her immigration status is. If she's here on any kind of visa, REVOKE IT AND SEND THIS SLAG BACK TO WHATEVER SHITHOLE SHE CAME FROM.
From today's New York Post
I imagine the conversation would go something like this:
LEFT: Normalize political assassinations!
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
Posted by: imp at September 18, 2025 11:58 AM (g6TN6)
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100% this slag woulda been a Red Guard for Mao. 100% she woulda been one of the RG killed by the army after they disbanded the RG but some refused to give it up.
Unclear what her immigration status is. If she's here on any kind of visa, REVOKE IT AND SEND THIS SLAG BACK TO WHATEVER SHITHOLE SHE CAME FROM.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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That he's bought all the propaganda about 1/6 as the worst thing ever in the history of mankind, something no one outside of tight and fairly small political bubbles give two shits about.
It is so odd, we live in two countries much more than John Edwards ever meant or realized.
One part of the country is absolutely certain that Trump is a proven Russia asset pedo, that January 6th was a deadly riot like never in America's history, that Charlie Kirk was a klansman murdered by a MAGA, and that talk show hosts fired for losing their company money are victims of fascist attacks on free speech.
Another part is absolutely certain that 2020 was a stolen election, that Biden was a rutabaga that molested children including his own kids, that Kirk was a hero assassinated by an antifa leftist, and that the leftist leadership backs and funds radical leftist riots and killings.
And each is totally certain not only that the other side is wrong but insane for thinking any of this.
It is so odd, we live in two countries much more than John Edwards ever meant or realized.
One part of the country is absolutely certain that Trump is a proven Russia asset pedo, that January 6th was a deadly riot like never in America's history, that Charlie Kirk was a klansman murdered by a MAGA, and that talk show hosts fired for losing their company money are victims of fascist attacks on free speech.
Another part is absolutely certain that 2020 was a stolen election, that Biden was a rutabaga that molested children including his own kids, that Kirk was a hero assassinated by an antifa leftist, and that the leftist leadership backs and funds radical leftist riots and killings.
And each is totally certain not only that the other side is wrong but insane for thinking any of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
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What the hell does that even mean??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Ben lives full retard.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (Tv15w)
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Well, "broke civility" is actually my haphazard way of summing up his rant.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Ben lives full retard.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 11:56 AM (Tv15w)
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Well, "broke civility" is actually my haphazard way of summing up his rant.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (krQz2)
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273 A year or so ago the EPA banned most refrigerants commonly in use and stared requiring a new one that is semi flammable and an expensive pain in the for builders as it require extar fireproofing chases and considerations. But the EPA had a metric to show how much people would save to make it look like a good idea. Supposedly the new refrigerant is more efficient It isn't but equipment manufactures are being required to have more efficient systems. But the biggest saving would be, get this, global warming mitigation and reduced costs from climate catastrophes. I am not making this up, they are dead serious in their studies.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2025 12:00 PM (GUOwU)
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We had an issue with our AC last year and got some guys in. They were able to fix the issue, but the unit was obviously on borrowed time.
He told us about the change in refrigerant requirements happening this year, and we just decided to drop the cash and get a whole new unit last year with the old stuff.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2025 12:00 PM (GUOwU)
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We had an issue with our AC last year and got some guys in. They were able to fix the issue, but the unit was obviously on borrowed time.
He told us about the change in refrigerant requirements happening this year, and we just decided to drop the cash and get a whole new unit last year with the old stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
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We can let the schizophrenic that stabbed Iryna Zarutska out 14 times, but we can't have people throwing chip bags at cops who should be defunded!
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
Cops are agents of the sovereign and thus to be treated as the sovereign. Make obeisance, avert your eyes, bow your heads, shuffle your feet, obey immediately without question, and treat them as the holy untouchable god-beings they are or suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
Cops are agents of the sovereign and thus to be treated as the sovereign. Make obeisance, avert your eyes, bow your heads, shuffle your feet, obey immediately without question, and treat them as the holy untouchable god-beings they are or suffer the consequences.
Posted by: They are your betters. Act accordingly. at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (TbWk/)
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Once you have it set up, it works really well."
Sure. Taking up a lot of land and adding expected travel times. Which seem to be 2 issues that train travel is supposed to fix...
Sure. Taking up a lot of land and adding expected travel times. Which seem to be 2 issues that train travel is supposed to fix...
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (tubbA)
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RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
Posted by: imp
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Deport her ass. Probably here on a visa and Marco seems to be taking out the trash on college campuses. And with yesterday's immigration judge ruling, Mr. "Ham Ass" Columbia grad student Khalil has US making his future travel plans to Syria or Algeria.
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
Posted by: imp
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Deport her ass. Probably here on a visa and Marco seems to be taking out the trash on college campuses. And with yesterday's immigration judge ruling, Mr. "Ham Ass" Columbia grad student Khalil has US making his future travel plans to Syria or Algeria.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
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Jimmy Kimmel thought it was really funny when Tucker got fired.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1968502145788809291
https://twitter.com/i/status/1968502145788809291
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (Riz8t)
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269 Damn, you had to bring that up. That girl, looking in the eyes of her killer was one of the most disturbing images I have ever seen, and I have seen some stuff. A few tears came from an old salt Jarhead.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (gm9Sb)
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We are much closer to having self-driving cars than most people realize.
We have a very LONG way to go. They did an experiment and shared the reel on Facebook.
Self driving car going down the street. Facsimile of a small child darts out from behind a car and gets plowed. Everyone is claiming no one could have stopped in time. People were doing math trying to prove it was impossible to stop in time.
NOT IF THE SELF DRIVING CAR PAID ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING SCHOOL BUS WITH IT'S LIGHTS FLASHING AND STOP 🛑 SIGN OUT.
Everyone missed the bus. THAT'S what the experiment was about.
We have a very LONG way to go. They did an experiment and shared the reel on Facebook.
Self driving car going down the street. Facsimile of a small child darts out from behind a car and gets plowed. Everyone is claiming no one could have stopped in time. People were doing math trying to prove it was impossible to stop in time.
NOT IF THE SELF DRIVING CAR PAID ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING SCHOOL BUS WITH IT'S LIGHTS FLASHING AND STOP 🛑 SIGN OUT.
Everyone missed the bus. THAT'S what the experiment was about.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (HEGiN)
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We are being ruled by idiots.
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If only!
We're actually being ruled by *malicious* idiots.
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If only!
We're actually being ruled by *malicious* idiots.
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (TN0g+)
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Cops are agents of the sovereign and thus to be treated as the sovereign. Make obeisance, avert your eyes, bow your heads, shuffle your feet, obey immediately without question, and treat them as the holy untouchable god-beings they are or suffer the consequences.
Posted by: They are your betters
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As a practical matter, don't fight the blue even if they are wrong. You fight in court with far better odds. After all, they can't beat you for non compliance in court in front of witnesses when you say something they don't like.
Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: They are your betters
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As a practical matter, don't fight the blue even if they are wrong. You fight in court with far better odds. After all, they can't beat you for non compliance in court in front of witnesses when you say something they don't like.
Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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Actually, rethinking it, the *licensing* of the FCC indicates that it's not really a First Amendment issue.
The government owns the airwaves. It sets the rules. There has never been a First Amendment right to use the airwaves.
It's the way that the government has given us more things that are "privileges" than rights over the course of time. Because they still hold the other end of the *privilege*.
The government owns the airwaves. It sets the rules. There has never been a First Amendment right to use the airwaves.
It's the way that the government has given us more things that are "privileges" than rights over the course of time. Because they still hold the other end of the *privilege*.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (krQz2)
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I haven't been on a European train since 1994. I am headed to Portugal in a few weeks and we plan to use the train to get to/from the airport, etc. I am very curious as to what that'll be like. Never been to Portugal before so everything will be new to me.
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (vV6n9)
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288 As a practical matter, don't fight the blue even if they are wrong. You fight in court with far better odds. After all, they can't beat you for non compliance in court in front of witnesses when you say something they don't like.
Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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"We warned you about trains"
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
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Self-driving cars will take over suddenly when it happens, and it will happen sooner than most people think.
Posted by: Ralph
When do we get fusion. I want fusion.
Self-driving cars will take over suddenly when it happens, and it will happen sooner than most people think.
Posted by: Ralph
When do we get fusion. I want fusion.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (63Dwl)
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what amuses me is that so called "celebrities" created in some talent agency lab, are finding out that they are replaceable
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (tubbA)
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289 Actually, rethinking it, the *licensing* of the FCC indicates that it's not really a First Amendment issue.
The government owns the airwaves. It sets the rules. There has never been a First Amendment right to use the airwaves.
It's the way that the government has given us more things that are "privileges" than rights over the course of time. Because they still hold the other end of the *privilege*.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (krQz2)
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*the perfect Thank You meme, you know the one*
Yeah, it's not even close to a 1st Amendment issue, even if it's the "worst case scenario" of Cobb telling ABC to fire Kimmel or else.
The government owns the airwaves. It sets the rules. There has never been a First Amendment right to use the airwaves.
It's the way that the government has given us more things that are "privileges" than rights over the course of time. Because they still hold the other end of the *privilege*.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (krQz2)
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*the perfect Thank You meme, you know the one*
Yeah, it's not even close to a 1st Amendment issue, even if it's the "worst case scenario" of Cobb telling ABC to fire Kimmel or else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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"We warned you about trains"
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
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Casey Jones, you better watch your speed.
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
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Casey Jones, you better watch your speed.
Posted by: The Grateful Dead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (WvZaB)
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Reads NY Post article.
Chinese heritage and she's a they/them. I'm profiling like I work for LAPD at this point.
Chinese heritage and she's a they/them. I'm profiling like I work for LAPD at this point.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (BpO1e)
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LEFT: Normalize political assassinations!
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
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No, it will go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will. She knows it is her side that will actually do the violence. It will get excused, celebrated, sentences reduced or pardoned, etc. The right won't do it, in large part because we're better, but also, there will be no mitigations given to the killer.
RIGHT: OK. ... *bang*
Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
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No, it will go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will. She knows it is her side that will actually do the violence. It will get excused, celebrated, sentences reduced or pardoned, etc. The right won't do it, in large part because we're better, but also, there will be no mitigations given to the killer.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (Dv3i1)
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297 But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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Lol, elric, yeah, total red guard/khmer rouge fanatic. Just like that little skinny rope-head at Oxford. People who couldn't even lift a gun. When the street fighting starts, and it will, people like that need to be on the front lines with their mouths since they talk so tough
Lol, elric, yeah, total red guard/khmer rouge fanatic. Just like that little skinny rope-head at Oxford. People who couldn't even lift a gun. When the street fighting starts, and it will, people like that need to be on the front lines with their mouths since they talk so tough
Posted by: imp at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (g6TN6)
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The First Amendment provided Kimmel with all the rope he needed.
He tied it into a noose.
His employer, whose rules for civility and not to broadcast blatant lies, strung him up with it.
Buh-bye, dunce.
The First Amendment provided Kimmel with all the rope he needed.
He tied it into a noose.
His employer, whose rules for civility and not to broadcast blatant lies, strung him up with it.
Buh-bye, dunce.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (Tv15w)
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But the biggest saving would be, get this, global warming mitigation and reduced costs from climate catastrophes. I am not making this up, they are dead serious in their studies.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley
Patents must be up on the older refrigerant. We can simply go back to Freon as it has been proven that Freon had no effect on the ozone hole over the Artic regions. More bullshit climate science and a warmup for the globull warming crap. Plus Dupont's Freon patent expired and DuPont sponsored a lot of that phoney research about the ozone hole and corralled other nations via the UN to do something about it.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley
Patents must be up on the older refrigerant. We can simply go back to Freon as it has been proven that Freon had no effect on the ozone hole over the Artic regions. More bullshit climate science and a warmup for the globull warming crap. Plus Dupont's Freon patent expired and DuPont sponsored a lot of that phoney research about the ozone hole and corralled other nations via the UN to do something about it.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (WDjG6)
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Do I understand this correctly? Does saying something stupid, ignorant and nasty about Donald Trump and his supporters protects someone from ever being fired?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (kTd/k)
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290 Heh Japanese trains. Polite Japanese people. Little people. Until boarding time and then it's a Banzai charge.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (gm9Sb)
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I oppose the idea of the FDA forcing companies to fire people because they don't like what those people say. I am totally opposed to that in every way.
However, and this is a big however, Jimmy Kimmel loses his business money every year. Not a much as Colbert, but still: he's a cash bonfire for the network, not an earner. Guys like him eventually get shown the door and ABC needed an excuse.
But Kimmel isn't fired, he's in a time out box for being a dumbass above and beyond the call over a very hot button issue. He either lied or is inexcusably ignorant given his job. He'll be back but probably will have his sown canceled as well because talk shows are like old time radio drama shows: novelty and nostalgia, not money makers.
However, and this is a big however, Jimmy Kimmel loses his business money every year. Not a much as Colbert, but still: he's a cash bonfire for the network, not an earner. Guys like him eventually get shown the door and ABC needed an excuse.
But Kimmel isn't fired, he's in a time out box for being a dumbass above and beyond the call over a very hot button issue. He either lied or is inexcusably ignorant given his job. He'll be back but probably will have his sown canceled as well because talk shows are like old time radio drama shows: novelty and nostalgia, not money makers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (dfIr7)
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Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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I once thought that. Once.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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I once thought that. Once.
Posted by: Baker Mayfield at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (TN0g+)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
I think Chris Rock did a hilarious bit about that
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
I think Chris Rock did a hilarious bit about that
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (sBt/s)
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One part of the country is absolutely certain that Trump is a proven Russia asset pedo, that January 6th was a deadly riot like never in America's history, that Charlie Kirk was a klansman murdered by a MAGA, and that talk show hosts fired for losing their company money are victims of fascist attacks on free speech.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
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I hate to sound so brash as to make it out like my tribe doesn't live in a bubble. But yeah, if you're open to new information, you're on one side. If you live up the media's rectum, you're on the other side.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
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I hate to sound so brash as to make it out like my tribe doesn't live in a bubble. But yeah, if you're open to new information, you're on one side. If you live up the media's rectum, you're on the other side.
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (krQz2)
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301 297 But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
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Sure, Jan.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
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Sure, Jan.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (AdHga)
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297 But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
They also loathe people who know their civil rights. And are terrified of falling acorns.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
They also loathe people who know their civil rights. And are terrified of falling acorns.
Posted by: They sound just like gunshots you know at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (TbWk/)
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It is so odd, we live in two countries much more than John Edwards ever meant or realized.
One part of the country is absolutely certain that Trump is a proven Russia asset pedo, that January 6th was a deadly riot like never in America's history, that Charlie Kirk was a klansman murdered by a MAGA, and that talk show hosts fired for losing their company money are victims of fascist attacks on free speech.
Another part is absolutely certain that 2020 was a stolen election, that Biden was a rutabaga that molested children including his own kids, that Kirk was a hero assassinated by an antifa leftist, and that the leftist leadership backs and funds radical leftist riots and killings.
And each is totally certain not only that the other side is wrong but insane for thinking any of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
There will be no national divorces. There is only Bosnia.
The only option I see to peaceful coexistence is common sense millennial control, e.g., camps, specifically reprogramming camps.
I say it often, even though I don't like to say it. We have a monumental problem on our hands.
I am open to options.
One part of the country is absolutely certain that Trump is a proven Russia asset pedo, that January 6th was a deadly riot like never in America's history, that Charlie Kirk was a klansman murdered by a MAGA, and that talk show hosts fired for losing their company money are victims of fascist attacks on free speech.
Another part is absolutely certain that 2020 was a stolen election, that Biden was a rutabaga that molested children including his own kids, that Kirk was a hero assassinated by an antifa leftist, and that the leftist leadership backs and funds radical leftist riots and killings.
And each is totally certain not only that the other side is wrong but insane for thinking any of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
There will be no national divorces. There is only Bosnia.
The only option I see to peaceful coexistence is common sense millennial control, e.g., camps, specifically reprogramming camps.
I say it often, even though I don't like to say it. We have a monumental problem on our hands.
I am open to options.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (i24o9)
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>>>Supposedly the new refrigerant is more efficient It isn't but equipment manufactures are being required to have more efficient systems. But the biggest saving would be, get this, global warming mitigation and reduced costs from climate catastrophes. I am not making this up, they are dead serious in their studies.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley
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My HVAC system is mechanically sound. It's low on freon. It can't be recharged because the EPA has banned its use. My only option is to 'upgrade' to new equipment. That's penalty they shouldn't be allowed.
We are being ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Ripley
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My HVAC system is mechanically sound. It's low on freon. It can't be recharged because the EPA has banned its use. My only option is to 'upgrade' to new equipment. That's penalty they shouldn't be allowed.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (tiYpZ)
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Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if it's two chick cops and they don't have a beefy dishwasher to step in and help?
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if it's two chick cops and they don't have a beefy dishwasher to step in and help?
Posted by: Axeman at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (krQz2)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
They also loathe people who know their civil rights. And are terrified of falling acorns.
Posted by: They sound just like gunshots you know at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (TbWk/)
Slopes. They hate sloped roofs.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
They also loathe people who know their civil rights. And are terrified of falling acorns.
Posted by: They sound just like gunshots you know at September 18, 2025 12:08 PM (TbWk/)
Slopes. They hate sloped roofs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (i24o9)
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Probably not going to go the way little Miss Xu thinks it will
I would like someone to barge into her class and slam her against a wall long enough for her to feel actual terror for her life. And then simply say "That's what a political assassination is like. How badly to do you want that?"
Of course she apologized for what she said so that makes everything better.
I would like someone to barge into her class and slam her against a wall long enough for her to feel actual terror for her life. And then simply say "That's what a political assassination is like. How badly to do you want that?"
Of course she apologized for what she said so that makes everything better.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (BpO1e)
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (tubbA)
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Too many people think they can wheedle, outtalk, or outargue cops--if they want to give you a ride--a ride is what you are going to get so resistance is pointless and stupid tactically.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
yes but getting them on camera admitting they have no objectively reasonable lawful basis for doing what they're doing is good evidence for the lawsuit you bring later
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:04 PM (WDjG6)
yes but getting them on camera admitting they have no objectively reasonable lawful basis for doing what they're doing is good evidence for the lawsuit you bring later
Posted by: GIMME YOUR ID! Sir, this is a Wendy's. at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (TbWk/)
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The First Amendment provided Kimmel with all the rope he needed.
He tied it into a noose.
His employer, whose rules for civility and not to broadcast blatant lies, strung him up with it.
Buh-bye, dunce.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (Tv15w)
Well said
The First Amendment provided Kimmel with all the rope he needed.
He tied it into a noose.
His employer, whose rules for civility and not to broadcast blatant lies, strung him up with it.
Buh-bye, dunce.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - what makes you think you are in charge? at September 18, 2025 12:07 PM (Tv15w)
Well said
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (2WIwB)
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Thoughts on this question of wasted time and efficiency. Any time saved by riding a train instead of commuting will be spent drinking coffee and eating donuts in the break room, bashing Trump at the water cooler, posting comments on the internet, placing sports bets or surfing porn.
Or perhaps...waiting in the conference room for the commuting team members to trickle in.
Either way, the amount of time spent actually being productive will not increase.
Or perhaps...waiting in the conference room for the commuting team members to trickle in.
Either way, the amount of time spent actually being productive will not increase.
Posted by: muldoon at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (/iMjX)
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It is worth noting that the licensing that TV networks sign to broadcast actually has several requirements and things they cannot do. Its not a total open "free speech" platform, and deliberately spreading lies in the name of news is not allowed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (dfIr7)
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And each is totally certain not only that the other side is wrong but insane for thinking any of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
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The difference is, one side has a lot of facts and questions the other side is unwilling to even consider. And it's not the right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:02 PM (dfIr7)
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The difference is, one side has a lot of facts and questions the other side is unwilling to even consider. And it's not the right.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (tT6L1)
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323 It is worth noting that the licensing that TV networks sign to broadcast actually has several requirements and things they cannot do. Its not a total open "free speech" platform, and deliberately spreading lies in the name of news is not allowed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (dfIr7)
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There a section that's specifically about truthfulness in the reporting of criminal acts.
Kirk's assassination was a criminal act.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (dfIr7)
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There a section that's specifically about truthfulness in the reporting of criminal acts.
Kirk's assassination was a criminal act.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
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It is worth noting that the licensing that TV networks sign to broadcast actually has several requirements and things they cannot do. Its not a total open "free speech" platform, and deliberately spreading lies in the name of news is not allowed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (dfIr7)
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Now do 99% of the news reporting on Covid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (dfIr7)
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Now do 99% of the news reporting on Covid.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 18, 2025 12:11 PM (WvZaB)
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Of course she apologized for what she said so that makes everything better.
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What's missing from the story is that she said the prof agreed with her. It is Oberlin, after all.
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What's missing from the story is that she said the prof agreed with her. It is Oberlin, after all.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 18, 2025 12:11 PM (Dv3i1)
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I know a fat cop. BSing with the guy in front of a gas station on the park bench (Arkansas) a buddy of his pulled up and told him to lay off the powdered donuts. "My Glock does my running".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (gm9Sb)
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328 I know a fat cop. BSing with the guy in front of a gas station on the park bench (Arkansas) a buddy of his pulled up and told him to lay off the powdered donuts. "My Glock does my running".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (gm9Sb)
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You were in Arkansas?!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (gm9Sb)
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You were in Arkansas?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
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My HVAC system is mechanically sound. It's low on freon. It can't be recharged because the EPA has banned its use. My only option is to 'upgrade' to new equipment. That's penalty they shouldn't be allowed.
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Please please please contact a HIGH PRODUCING Realtor in your area. Then ask them to give you two recommendations for home inspectors. Then call each of the home inspection companies and tell them of your plight. They will know of freon-alternatives that won't cost an arm and a leg and won't require you to buy a new system. Seriously! Yes you're jumping thru some hoops, but you want to call only GOOD home inspection companies, and only GOOD Realtors can tell you which ones to trust since those Realtors sell a lot of homes and won't work with lazy inspectors or inspectors that kill deals (like suggesting that freon obsolescence is a reason to replace a system).
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Please please please contact a HIGH PRODUCING Realtor in your area. Then ask them to give you two recommendations for home inspectors. Then call each of the home inspection companies and tell them of your plight. They will know of freon-alternatives that won't cost an arm and a leg and won't require you to buy a new system. Seriously! Yes you're jumping thru some hoops, but you want to call only GOOD home inspection companies, and only GOOD Realtors can tell you which ones to trust since those Realtors sell a lot of homes and won't work with lazy inspectors or inspectors that kill deals (like suggesting that freon obsolescence is a reason to replace a system).
Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (TN0g+)
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It can't be recharged because the EPA has banned its use"
No. You're free to use it. But not to manufacture it. Or sell it. Or use fittings that allow different containers to be used...
No. You're free to use it. But not to manufacture it. Or sell it. Or use fittings that allow different containers to be used...
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (tubbA)
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I’ve read the EPA’s new refrigerant rule it eventually bans every existing refrigerant because of their “global warming potential”, which it a bullshit number parading as science. It’s trans-science.
Only refrigerants that will be legal to use will be propane, ammonia, or shit that hasn’t been invented yet.
Only refrigerants that will be legal to use will be propane, ammonia, or shit that hasn’t been invented yet.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (uOKmw)
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There will be no national divorces. There is only Bosnia.
You now what a national divorce would look like? Ask Charlie Kirk.
You now what a national divorce would look like? Ask Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (dfIr7)
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‘ Never found him as funny as his dad.’
Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
‘ Never found him as funny as his dad.’
Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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Dunno, martel for some reason, i'm just reminded of the guy in Panama who cleared that climate roadblock. A lot of people are old and no longer give a crap. The late 1960s were bad times too, with the filthy commies. That went nowhere. It's something anyone with sense (or lacking psychopathic ambition) outgrows
Dunno, martel for some reason, i'm just reminded of the guy in Panama who cleared that climate roadblock. A lot of people are old and no longer give a crap. The late 1960s were bad times too, with the filthy commies. That went nowhere. It's something anyone with sense (or lacking psychopathic ambition) outgrows
Posted by: imp at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (g6TN6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
They put out a bench warrant to be executed later with extreme prejudice. Alfred Hitchcock was once accused of hating police--he said, no, I am afraid of them.
Used to use The Wrong Man at the very beginning of the semester for criminal law. And if you notice, the cops are not the mean scumbags--it is just when the finger of the law points to you--then all the focus of cops goes to prove your guilt in the legal system. The movie demonstrated accepted practices done by probably the highest trained police force in the US at the time (NYPD) and it rolled snake eyes in Manny's case that literally ruined his life.
Police and governments are necessary evils in this world because otherwise you either go to less desirable vigilante action or you go to anarchy where everyone is viewed as a target.
But one must turn square corners when dealing with Government as a wise old justice said.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
They put out a bench warrant to be executed later with extreme prejudice. Alfred Hitchcock was once accused of hating police--he said, no, I am afraid of them.
Used to use The Wrong Man at the very beginning of the semester for criminal law. And if you notice, the cops are not the mean scumbags--it is just when the finger of the law points to you--then all the focus of cops goes to prove your guilt in the legal system. The movie demonstrated accepted practices done by probably the highest trained police force in the US at the time (NYPD) and it rolled snake eyes in Manny's case that literally ruined his life.
Police and governments are necessary evils in this world because otherwise you either go to less desirable vigilante action or you go to anarchy where everyone is viewed as a target.
But one must turn square corners when dealing with Government as a wise old justice said.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:13 PM (WDjG6)
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Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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I liked him in "Mystery Men." And "Tropic Thunder."
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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I liked him in "Mystery Men." And "Tropic Thunder."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (WvZaB)
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We need to shut down all the networks. All the media. Start from scratch. Starting with a Trump News Network - TNN. Build a fact-based news media in this great nation that will bring you the news in an unbiased fashion.
Posted by: Diabeetus at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (ASvvW)
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Posted by: GIMME YOUR ID! Sir, this is a Wendy's. at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (TbWk/)
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (tiYpZ)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Make sure to stretch first.
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Cops have guns, tasers and radios.
Posted by: pudinhead at September 18, 2025 12:06 PM (AdHga)
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Yeah, but I'm, like, really fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Make sure to stretch first.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (Riz8t)
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Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Blank face, bad physical comedy chops, and whiny is not an attractive combination to me. Gamma male. Also looks like he might have supped penii at some point in his career.
Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Blank face, bad physical comedy chops, and whiny is not an attractive combination to me. Gamma male. Also looks like he might have supped penii at some point in his career.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (WDjG6)
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Only refrigerants that will be legal to use will be propane, ammonia, or shit"
That last one will clog up the compressor... I'm guessing...
That last one will clog up the compressor... I'm guessing...
Posted by: man at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (tubbA)
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Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
A perfect example of this is Zoolander or Tropic Thunder. Genuinely funny movies, but rarely are they funny because of Stiller himself.
A perfect example of this is Zoolander or Tropic Thunder. Genuinely funny movies, but rarely are they funny because of Stiller himself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (dfIr7)
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I'm in PA and we do nothing but fight over funding of the major transportation systems - SEPTA, Amtrak in Philly region; Pittsburgh Regional Rail, York's Rabbit Transit, etc.
PA-Capital Star, in part, "In his February budget address, Shapiro proposed raising the share of the state’s sales tax that goes to transit funding from 7.68% to 9.43%. He said this would generate nearly $300 million annually without raising taxes." Oh, ho! Right. It never ends! And there's always so little to ever show for efficiency, safety, improved maintenance, etc. aside from some pay raises & tamping down the rabble which must ride past or around the most elite areas unless employed cooking, washing dishes, etc.
Who supports it? Certainly government & unions, of course. Also, Union of Concerned Scientists*
>USC Org, The Equation, 'The Transit for All PA Funding Package Can Help Keep Pennsylvania Moving' June 10, 2025
In part, "In addition to driving the economy, transit is a pillar of healthy communities." Right. And the highly rural areas simply cannot afford it.
See Influence Watch, "The Union of Concerned Scientists* (UCS)
PA-Capital Star, in part, "In his February budget address, Shapiro proposed raising the share of the state’s sales tax that goes to transit funding from 7.68% to 9.43%. He said this would generate nearly $300 million annually without raising taxes." Oh, ho! Right. It never ends! And there's always so little to ever show for efficiency, safety, improved maintenance, etc. aside from some pay raises & tamping down the rabble which must ride past or around the most elite areas unless employed cooking, washing dishes, etc.
Who supports it? Certainly government & unions, of course. Also, Union of Concerned Scientists*
>USC Org, The Equation, 'The Transit for All PA Funding Package Can Help Keep Pennsylvania Moving' June 10, 2025
In part, "In addition to driving the economy, transit is a pillar of healthy communities." Right. And the highly rural areas simply cannot afford it.
See Influence Watch, "The Union of Concerned Scientists* (UCS)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (NFX2v)
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"We warned you about trains"
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
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No way to slow down.
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 18, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM (TbWk/)
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No way to slow down.
Posted by: Jethro Tull at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (krQz2)
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Emily Jashinsky is reporting that Jimmy Kibble is not fired and "will be back on the air in a couple of days."
Posted by: Delurker at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (NhiOW)
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The difference is, one side has a lot of facts and questions the other side is unwilling to even consider. And it's not the right.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (tT6L1)
Yes. But good luck deprogramming the cultists. I was pondering the other day if there is any way to achieve that on some kind of broadcast level. Because they are brainwashed, they are cultists, and reasoning with them is a fool's errand. You can't do the TV movie trope thing of snatching them off the street in a white van and confining them to a shabby room with a single swinging light fixture and going at them 24/7 to "snap them out of it." There's got to be something. Doesn't there?
The difference is, one side has a lot of facts and questions the other side is unwilling to even consider. And it's not the right.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 18, 2025 12:10 PM (tT6L1)
Yes. But good luck deprogramming the cultists. I was pondering the other day if there is any way to achieve that on some kind of broadcast level. Because they are brainwashed, they are cultists, and reasoning with them is a fool's errand. You can't do the TV movie trope thing of snatching them off the street in a white van and confining them to a shabby room with a single swinging light fixture and going at them 24/7 to "snap them out of it." There's got to be something. Doesn't there?
Posted by: Maybe there isn't. at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (TbWk/)
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Posted by: GIMME YOUR ID! Sir, this is a Wendy's. at September 18, 2025 12:09 PM (TbWk/)
I’ll hand over my ego but never my Id!
I’ll hand over my ego but never my Id!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 18, 2025 12:16 PM (sBt/s)
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Took the chunnel last fall and the only issue was the internet was spotty for a while. Otherwise, I'd have never known I was in a tunnel under the water.
Took the ferry back to Dover (wanted to see the White Cliffs). That was a pleasant trip.
I much prefer high speed trains in Europe to puddle jumping, low cost airlines in Europe.
Took the ferry back to Dover (wanted to see the White Cliffs). That was a pleasant trip.
I much prefer high speed trains in Europe to puddle jumping, low cost airlines in Europe.
Posted by: Ann at September 18, 2025 12:16 PM (4neFu)
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Charlie and I provided both passenger and freight service in the Valley. The Greater Metro Pixley/Crabwell Corners/Hooterville area was well served by our superior rail line. Remember that there is no road to the Shady Rest Hotel. Nor even a phone. Had to go to Drucker's Store for that, or climb the pole at the Douglas place.
Posted by: Long Live The Cannonball! at September 18, 2025 12:16 PM (oftw2)
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Only refrigerants that will be legal to use will be propane, ammonia, or shit that hasn’t been invented yet.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
I'm looking forward to when some building that are using the new refrigerant catch fire and, despite the fire proofing, the linesets burst and spew out semi-flammable refrigerant on the fire (sort of like spraying lighter fluid on your grill.) It will be blast watching the EPA run for cover.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
I'm looking forward to when some building that are using the new refrigerant catch fire and, despite the fire proofing, the linesets burst and spew out semi-flammable refrigerant on the fire (sort of like spraying lighter fluid on your grill.) It will be blast watching the EPA run for cover.
Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (GUOwU)
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You cannot despise the fear, doom, and deaths soon!, media enough, Case 2,901,314,400
DailyMail story headline right now:
"Gabrielle set to explode into a hurricane within DAYS as spaghetti models reveal storm's shifting path"
National Hurricane Center Headline for Gabrielle, now -
"...GABRIELLE STILL STRUGGLING OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC..."
Latest NHC path prediction
https://tinyurl.com/4fasyrz7
DailyMail story headline right now:
"Gabrielle set to explode into a hurricane within DAYS as spaghetti models reveal storm's shifting path"
National Hurricane Center Headline for Gabrielle, now -
"...GABRIELLE STILL STRUGGLING OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC..."
Latest NHC path prediction
https://tinyurl.com/4fasyrz7
Posted by: Gref at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (5rh/l)
353
"We warned you about trains"
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band
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No way to slow down.
Posted by: Jethro Tull
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"We had a few things to say about trains as well"
--Grateful Dead
-- Europe (rock band)
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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We have a few things to say about trains.
Posted by: Blackfoot, Megadeth, Marshall Tucker Band
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No way to slow down.
Posted by: Jethro Tull
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"We had a few things to say about trains as well"
--Grateful Dead
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (dfIr7)
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
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No. The police must have a "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime" to detain you, and they have be detaining you before they can *require* ID. They are free to request it in other circumstances, but you have no obligation to play along unless they admit or assert that you are being detained and give you the "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime".
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No. The police must have a "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime" to detain you, and they have be detaining you before they can *require* ID. They are free to request it in other circumstances, but you have no obligation to play along unless they admit or assert that you are being detained and give you the "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime".
Posted by: Crusader, Internet Lawyer Wannabe at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (TN0g+)
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Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
One could say the same of Bob Hope or Dean Martin. Sometimes, just being the catalyst makes it worthwhile to have you around.
One could say the same of Bob Hope or Dean Martin. Sometimes, just being the catalyst makes it worthwhile to have you around.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes. But good luck deprogramming the cultists. I was pondering the other day if there is any way to achieve that on some kind of broadcast level. Because they are brainwashed, they are cultists, and reasoning with them is a fool's errand. You can't do the TV movie trope thing of snatching them off the street in a white van and confining them to a shabby room with a single swinging light fixture and going at them 24/7 to "snap them out of it." There's got to be something. Doesn't there?
Posted by: Maybe there isn't. at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (TbWk/)
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The assassination of Charlie Kirk proves their is a cult of violence on the left which cannot be reasoned with. The FBI and the DOJ need to go after them with the same ferocity they went after J6 defendants.
Posted by: Maybe there isn't. at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (TbWk/)
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The assassination of Charlie Kirk proves their is a cult of violence on the left which cannot be reasoned with. The FBI and the DOJ need to go after them with the same ferocity they went after J6 defendants.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (tT6L1)
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New thread up
Posted by: Ann at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (4neFu)
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There will be no national divorces. There is only Bosnia.
You now what a national divorce would look like? Ask Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (dfIr7)
The end of Charlie Kirk's time on earth occurred under the "No Divorce" scenario.
You now what a national divorce would look like? Ask Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:12 PM (dfIr7)
The end of Charlie Kirk's time on earth occurred under the "No Divorce" scenario.
Posted by: Methos at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (vSvIl)
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yes but getting them on camera admitting they have no objectively reasonable lawful basis for doing what they're doing is good evidence for the lawsuit you bring later
Posted by: GIMME YOUR ID!
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Go ahead, if you think you can outtalk the cops. Better to just have your own car camera systems for driving offenses and inside for stops.
Posted by: GIMME YOUR ID!
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Go ahead, if you think you can outtalk the cops. Better to just have your own car camera systems for driving offenses and inside for stops.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Crusader at September 18, 2025 12:18 PM (TN0g+)
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liked him in "Mystery Men." And Promethius.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 18, 2025 12:18 PM (F7wxO)
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343 Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it
A perfect example of this is Zoolander or Tropic Thunder. Genuinely funny movies, but rarely are they funny because of Stiller himself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (dfIr7)
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I always end up rooting against his characters.
A perfect example of this is Zoolander or Tropic Thunder. Genuinely funny movies, but rarely are they funny because of Stiller himself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 18, 2025 12:15 PM (dfIr7)
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I always end up rooting against his characters.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 18, 2025 12:18 PM (9yXG3)
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (tiYpZ)
what state ?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (tiYpZ)
what state ?
Posted by: runner at September 18, 2025 12:18 PM (g47mK)
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The boss is up
Posted by: rickb223 at September 18, 2025 12:18 PM (HEGiN)
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
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I assume if this state becomes a 'sanctuary state' if an illegal doesn't provide a valid ID the law won't apply to you!
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I assume if this state becomes a 'sanctuary state' if an illegal doesn't provide a valid ID the law won't apply to you!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 18, 2025 12:19 PM (Dv3i1)
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No. The police must have a "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime" to detain you, and they have be detaining you before they can *require* ID. They are free to request it in other circumstances, but you have no obligation to play along unless they admit or assert that you are being detained and give you the "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime".
Posted by: Crusader, Internet Lawyer Wannabe at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (TN0g+)
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In theory...
Posted by: Crusader, Internet Lawyer Wannabe at September 18, 2025 12:17 PM (TN0g+)
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In theory...
Posted by: Diabeetus at September 18, 2025 12:19 PM (ASvvW)
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Ben Stiller always has had funny around him but never generates it.
Yup…he is butt ass ugly and scares people. His dad was ugly but in a funny kind of way.
Yup…he is butt ass ugly and scares people. His dad was ugly but in a funny kind of way.
Posted by: Ass Man at September 18, 2025 12:19 PM (OU3xT)
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In this state it is law; one must have a valid ID, you can be arrested for being in public without a valid ID.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (tiYpZ)
You live in East Germany? I'm pretty sure that's not true. Cops can't just randomly stop people and demand identification. See Terry v Ohio and Brown v Texas. Nobody is required to carry ZEE PAPERZ upon pain of arrest just for being outside.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 18, 2025 12:14 PM (tiYpZ)
You live in East Germany? I'm pretty sure that's not true. Cops can't just randomly stop people and demand identification. See Terry v Ohio and Brown v Texas. Nobody is required to carry ZEE PAPERZ upon pain of arrest just for being outside.
Posted by: I believe you are incorrect at September 18, 2025 12:19 PM (TbWk/)
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The FBI and the DOJ need to go after them with the same ferocity they went after J6 defendants.
STEINER WILL COME
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 18, 2025 12:20 PM (F7wxO)
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You want to make trains more attractive?
1) Allow gambling while the car is in motion.
2) employers can count commuting time as "on the clock" if it is via rail; if not, a tax credit for your time.
3) Override all environmental restrictions
4) permit zero input or objections from any cities or counties--e.g., train will stop here, here and here no objections, no slow downs in between; build it like the interstate highway system
5) rail fares are 2 (or more) to 1 income tax credits
6) the trains will run on time
LOL trains are stupid for moving people.
1) Allow gambling while the car is in motion.
2) employers can count commuting time as "on the clock" if it is via rail; if not, a tax credit for your time.
3) Override all environmental restrictions
4) permit zero input or objections from any cities or counties--e.g., train will stop here, here and here no objections, no slow downs in between; build it like the interstate highway system
5) rail fares are 2 (or more) to 1 income tax credits
6) the trains will run on time
LOL trains are stupid for moving people.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 18, 2025 12:21 PM (qHqHk)
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Lightrail was a delight in Minneapolis when it opened. Of course, over budget and behind schedule, but it WAS nice and convienient. Now it is a moving crime scene.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at September 18, 2025 12:22 PM (iNp3L)
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No. The police must have a "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime" to detain you, and they have be detaining you before they can *require* ID. They are free to request it in other circumstances, but you have no obligation to play along unless they admit or assert that you are being detained and give you the "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime".
Posted by: Crusader
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In public, away from your car, you get whatever process the po po want you to get. They are not required to tell you the reasonable articulable facts but have to later in court. And yes, they can briefly detain you, ask you questions in public etc., and the magic words are Am I free to Go. If not, you are taking a ride or at the very least going to have to cough up std. info about who you are, what you are doing around the location, etc. and it might escalate to a frisk etc.
Don't prolong any stop more than necessary. Stops involving cars are different as the cops will almost always tie some sort of driving infraction in order to pull you over (or roadblocks).
And don't take field sobriety tests or breathanalysers--make them take you somewhere for blood tests/calibrated breathanalyzer.
Posted by: Crusader
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In public, away from your car, you get whatever process the po po want you to get. They are not required to tell you the reasonable articulable facts but have to later in court. And yes, they can briefly detain you, ask you questions in public etc., and the magic words are Am I free to Go. If not, you are taking a ride or at the very least going to have to cough up std. info about who you are, what you are doing around the location, etc. and it might escalate to a frisk etc.
Don't prolong any stop more than necessary. Stops involving cars are different as the cops will almost always tie some sort of driving infraction in order to pull you over (or roadblocks).
And don't take field sobriety tests or breathanalysers--make them take you somewhere for blood tests/calibrated breathanalyzer.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:23 PM (WDjG6)
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But what if I'm fit and fast and the cop is fat and slow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM
You can run, but you'll only die tired.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 18, 2025 12:05 PM
You can run, but you'll only die tired.
Posted by: Meal Team Six at September 18, 2025 12:23 PM (0sNs1)
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LOL trains are stupid for moving people.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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You left out cattle cars.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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You left out cattle cars.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:23 PM (WDjG6)
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I'd be fine with a compromise. Stop gumming up the expansion of nuclear power plants with repeated environmental regulations and law suits and then high speed rail can be investigated.
Posted by: scruboak at September 18, 2025 12:24 PM (F24e7)
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Posted by: DJIA Deathwatch at September 18, 2025 12:25 PM (jc0TO)
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You live in East Germany? I'm pretty sure that's not true. Cops can't just randomly stop people and demand identification. See Terry v Ohio and Brown v Texas. Nobody is required to carry ZEE PAPERZ upon pain of arrest just for being outside.
Posted by: I believe you are incorrect
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Case on point--state laws requiring id during Terry Stops are constitutional.
"Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, Humboldt County 542 US 177 (2004)
This ruling established that a person can be legally required to disclose their name during a lawful Terry stop, which occurs when an officer has reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime."
You do not have the constitutional right to be unidentified. Comes from very old English Common Law where night watchmen could ask who you were and what you were doing.
Posted by: I believe you are incorrect
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Case on point--state laws requiring id during Terry Stops are constitutional.
"Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, Humboldt County 542 US 177 (2004)
This ruling established that a person can be legally required to disclose their name during a lawful Terry stop, which occurs when an officer has reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime."
You do not have the constitutional right to be unidentified. Comes from very old English Common Law where night watchmen could ask who you were and what you were doing.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2025 12:29 PM (WDjG6)
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WAIT...what's this dark magic about "the Invisible Hand" and "laws of supply and demand"? Deez iz dangerous ideas, and we will not allow yew to corrupt ouah precious young pipo wif 'em.
....See, we Democrat pols know what's best for yew, cuz we iz reeel smaht. So when we say "Carbon dioxide is killing duh Erf so we need lots of 'high-speed trains', like California's," you better agree and support us!
....See, we Democrat pols know what's best for yew, cuz we iz reeel smaht. So when we say "Carbon dioxide is killing duh Erf so we need lots of 'high-speed trains', like California's," you better agree and support us!
Posted by: sf at September 18, 2025 12:37 PM (RJoOf)
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I used to ride Greyhound and Trailways a lot (I don't drive), and Amtrak a few times but that's been a few decades. In the 60s and 70s, you could bloody near set your watch by Greyhound departure times. Haven't ridden a bus now in something like 20 years -- the last few times the trip was just miserable (between Chicago and Joplin MO) and I told myself never again.
Have never tried MegaBus -- is it any good? Anyone here used it?
Have never tried MegaBus -- is it any good? Anyone here used it?
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